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KJ returns from his trip up the East Coast with stories from the ground—including a sobering stop in Washington. The POGs break down the shocking closure of the Department of Education, the quiet and mysterious removal of minorities from DoD sites, and the unraveling of the Democratic Party from the inside out. Buckle up for this extended episode packed with real talk, raw perspective, and a whole lot of common sense. We got a lot to catch up on so join us live tonight for an extended episode of 2 POGs Live!

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
What do you want to do tonight?

Speaker 2 (00:05):
The same thing we do every night.
Pinky, try to take over theworld.
Alright, yo, let's get into it.
Try to take over the world,you're preaching freedom.

Speaker 1 (00:18):
Try to take over the world.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
And bring this chaplain in the world, Mr Lance
O'Neal, Trying to take over theworld Yo yo, yo what up.
What up, what up world.
It is your boy, the Post, Backafter a short hiatus.
We are back in Magalane, andholy skimolas, what did I miss?
I am so glad to be back Onceagain.

(00:46):
It's your boy, kj Bradley, andthe greatest chaplain in the
world, mr Lance O'Neal.
What up, chappy?
Hey, how are you?
I'm good man.
I'm glad to be back from myexcursion up the East Coast last
week.
Thank you for being patientwith me, allowing me to make
that travel.
That was eye-opening.

(01:09):
I had to go run down my senatorswho, well, fortunately and
unfortunately, were having aserious vote that I kind of
heard about the day afterWashington, so they didn't have
much.
At least my senators didn'thave much time for me.
I was able to talk to a coupleof other senators who were there
and then a couple of house reps, which was pretty cool, so I
really enjoyed my time on theCapitol.
Man, trying to get into thatplace is like Fort Knox Holy

(01:30):
school Constituent, be damned.
You literally have to have areservation months in advance to
be able to get in to see arepresentative.
And I get it.
You know, I understand from asecurity standpoint, but it just
seems a little point defeatingright.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
Yeah, it's tough when the person you represent
doesn't talk to the people thatthey represent, and that's not,
I mean who knows.
I mean, we don't know if youknow Senator XYZ or House Rep
Snuffy is actually doing a lotof meetings with constituents or

(02:13):
whatever.
But I would be really curiousto see what the breakdown.
Maybe we need to see what theirfive accomplishments for the
week are.
But the bigger thing, I'd liketo see some of those stats.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
How many of your?

Speaker 1 (02:30):
constituents did you meet with this week?
What was the total time you metwith them?
How many hours were you incommittee?
Much time you know from votes?
How much travel time Because DCI mean, if you're going from
one side of the city to theother in DC that could take

(02:52):
anywhere from 30 minutes to anhour and a half.
Yeah, and you know they.
And then you get all theimportant people who shut down
the entire city because they'redriving around and you know, I
kind of laugh.
I remember a story and I'mtrying to think of who it was.
It was one of the.
It might have been like TonyBlair and he had a meeting in

(03:19):
the US and DC and he just flewcommercial.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
Wait, yeah, oh man, I think we lost.
I think we lost.
Am I back?
Yeah, you're back.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
Yeah, I mean I get you need security if you're the
president, when you've alreadyhad two assassination attempts
and you know, maybe you have areason for a third or fourth, or
you know whoever the craziesare going after.
But does the junior senatorfrom South Dakota really need a

(03:46):
full protection detail?
And you know?
Or the mayor of some of thesecities?
And you know Greg I go back toGreg Easterbrook a lot We've had
Greg on the show.
We've got to get it back, yeah,but a lot of the stuff that
Greg writes I agree with.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
There are things that I don't agree with.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
But one of the things he used to harp on were the
low-level government officialsthat would have these bodyguards
and all that, and it's just tomake him feel good.
It makes him feel important,like in a normal football game.
Does Nick Saban really need sixor eight troopers running
around him so he can walk acrossthe field and shake the hand of

(04:26):
Bob Stoops and Bob Stoops?
Well, he only has two, so NickSaban is four.
You know, three times asimportant.
I'm going to clean my.
There we go.
But you know, stuff like thatit's kind of silly and I get it
to a degree, but that's what itis.
It's just about them feelingimportant.
Um, could the sergeant major ina in a battalion or brigade

(04:50):
drive himself?
Sure?
of course, same with thecommander.
Uh, it's a little different.
You know, if they're using blueforce tracker in their, in
their m?
Uh oh, what are the big trucks?

Speaker 2 (05:01):
m oh my gosh, some of the lmtvs the big are the big
trucks.
Oh man, oh my gosh, Some of theLMTVs the big ones.

Speaker 1 (05:06):
No, not the LMTVs, but the ones that they switched
over MRAP, mrap, right, right,right.
So you know, it's one thing ifthey're tracking Blue Force
Tracker and the MRAP and they'reactively doing something, you
know Okay.
But there's a lot of timeswhere it's like, oh, we're just
going to drive from here out tothe firing line and I get it.

(05:28):
You know, you don't want thesergeant major necessarily
driving by the same time.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
Does he really?

Speaker 1 (05:30):
need someone to be driving him.
Probably not um, but a littlebit different again.
When you have mayor, mayorsmith from I'm trying to think
of a little town around, youknow, from waynesboro, and he's
got a, he's got a police escort.
Like really, do you really it'simportant?
No, you're not, you're not thatimportant, you're just not.

(05:53):
Or the student board, thestudent board meetings, when
they have all the police.
Or Utah just had I was readingone, saw a little bit of the
video two of the reps from Utahheld a town hall and it was
funny because the firstcomplaint was you need a ticket
but there's no tickets.

(06:14):
The tickets were gone withinlike a minute of the thing
opening up.
It's like, well, yeah, how fastdo you think Taylor Swift
concert sells out in Atlanta?

Speaker 2 (06:30):
Yeah, do you think Taylor Swift concert sells out
in Atlanta?
Oh man, I lost you mid talk.
All right, chappie's out,hopefully he'll be back.
Waiting, waiting, dramatic,awkward pause.
Waiting, waiting, dramatic,awkward pause.
Waiting, dramatic, awkwardpause.
All right, so chappy might beout for a minute.
So, um, until he gets back,I'll kind of talk about

(06:52):
something there you go, you'reback.

Speaker 1 (06:54):
How long did you lose me?
I think it's my internet rightafter right after taylor swift
right after taylor swift.
So if, if, okay, so taylorswift tickets go quick.
So who's to say?
And there were only like 300tickets, maybe really active
people.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
But at the same time.

Speaker 1 (07:09):
You know when you have these events.
You don't think that the debateis randomly open to people for
the presidential debates.
Of course it's loaded.
They already know who's goingto be there for the most part so
, but the Utah one I don't thinkthat was the case, because they
got shouted down and all thatby.
Let's just say, um, if you canread a book by the cover, a lot

(07:32):
of the people that were in thatmeeting were not conservatives.

Speaker 2 (07:36):
I don't know.
Your Senator got into a littlebit of hot water with with his.

Speaker 1 (07:40):
Who's my Senator?
I'm not sure who my Senator is.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
No, Senator from Utah .
I gotta go look up his nameagain.
Oh, Mike Lee.

Speaker 1 (07:49):
No, no, I don't think it was Lee.
Oh, the other one, yeah,burgess Burnett, something like
that.
I'll claim Mike Lee.
Mike Lee is absolutely aconservative, yeah.
The other one Burgess orsomething like that.
I don't really know him, dude.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
I haven't lived in utah since 2004, 5, 2005 no, I
know it's like well, yeah, bututah is still your home, right?

Speaker 1 (08:15):
it's like yeah, but I'm a utahn, yes, although the
army has tried to turn me into atexan, really Well, yeah, I've
been stationed almost ten fullyears at different times Three
years in Houston, three years inEl Paso, three years in San
Antonio, and each with change.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
I will say this is not bad.
No, I can't find his name now.
It's like Burgess, I think.

Speaker 1 (08:43):
Yeah, he did something to his name.
Oh, no, gosh, I think it'sMurphy, but he was a in 2000,.
He was a Democrat.
He led the Utah Democrat Partyin like 2000.
Yeah, and then he switched.
There's a lot of that yeah.
So there was a switch, I think.
When people are in dead redstates, they, I think they kind

(09:08):
of do the Trojan horse thing.
Oh well, you know, I still, I'mstill kind of more left leaning
, but I can't get elected here.
So I'm going to, because I'm apolitician, I'm going to lie
about what I believe in, aboutwhat I believe in and then end
up switching over and thenstrategically picking those more

(09:28):
left-leaning policies that makemore sense to them.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
So you're saying this guy's name is John Curtis
Curtis, is that his name?
Okay, he's a Republican out ofUtah.

Speaker 1 (09:39):
So anyway, he was on.
What did he get in trouble for?

Speaker 2 (09:41):
He was on Meet the Press talking about Social
Security or whatever Notnecessarily getting in trouble,
for he was on Meet the Presstalking about Social Security or
whatever, not necessarilygetting in trouble, just kind of
going against the talkingpoints with Social Security.
And he just played out like,hey, we're not being honest
about, we're not being honestwith our constituents about
Social Security and that'swhat's causing all the pushback.
If we were just to give them anopen, honest conversation about

(10:02):
what we're doing, they wouldn'tbe as pissed off about it.
But because we're not beinghonest about it and because we
got guys like Elon Musk, youknow, putting out all this crazy
stuff about it and we're nottaking charge of the
conversation when we do go hometo these town halls, you know
we're causing a lot of unduestress for ourselves.

Speaker 1 (10:22):
So you know, and you just keep keep going.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
I'm just changing location and he was just
basically saying, like you know,hey, you know I'm not.
I'm not saying that, you know,I'm not saying that.
You know we're, we're out,we're out, flat out, lying,
anything like that.
What I am saying is we're not,we're not being honest when
we're saying we're not going totouch the social security.
We have to do something to getthe social security under
control.
We have to.
You know, if there's, if thereis indeed fraud and stuff like

(10:47):
that in it, we have to look atit and we have to be honest our
constituents.
But if we let you know, if welet guys like elon musk say that
we're gonna cut it outcompletely, that's gonna cause a
widespread panic and we havetoo many people in our districts
who depend on it and if wedon't take control of the
narrative, you know that's goingto cause us more hurt in the
whole world.
So, which is which I thought wasa, you know, a great

(11:11):
conservative response.
I'm like, yeah, just be honestwith it.
You know, if you say, hey, thisis what's going on and again,
I've never had a problem with it, like I said, I've been pretty
consistent, like, hey, never hada problem with it, bring, bring
it to Congress.
Let Congress be accountable forit, because they're the ones
got to vote on it anyway, andjust let them.
Let them.
Let them live or die with it,because eventually they're the

(11:32):
ones that got to go back andjustify it with their
constituents.
But you know, he's gettingpushed back about it or whatever
, saying oh you know, I think acouple of more hard line
Republican senators came out andsaid well, he doesn't speak for
everybody and you know you know, it's just just a bunch of
talking points and bullshitrhetoric.
But it's just well, it's funny.

(11:53):
You find those.
You find those true moderatesand those true conservatives and
those true, you know those truetraditional liberals.
And they get, they getcannibalized by their own party
by being sure man, and it's justlike well, on both sides.

Speaker 1 (12:08):
I mean how, how many people now are?
I read there was a cartoontoday.
It was like I think it was apolitical.
It might have been justsomething like how far left has
the democrat party gone whenchuck schumer isn't far enough
left?
Well, you know that's Schumermade his own bed man.

Speaker 2 (12:30):
No, I'm not a fan of Schumer.
I knew he was going to cave.
Schumer knew he was going tocave, he shouldn't have never
came out and said he wasn'tgoing to poke him.
If he just came out and beenhonest from the get-go, what he
did was he got caught up in thewatch and I and I always like
don't be who you are, beunapologetic, right, don't get
caught up in the watch.
Schumer always knew he wasgonna vote for it.

(12:51):
He's never been one to fold thegovernment.
That's never been his style hiswhole career.
So to get up there and say I'myou know my vote is no, you're
lying.
I know you're lying, everybodyknows you're lying, you know I'm
.
So now you don't got the wholeDemocratic, you ain't got these
young Democrats who like, yeah,schumer's going to do it.
You know when Schumer does whathe always does, it was like,

(13:15):
hey, man, we should probablykeep the government open because
that's in the best interest ofthe government.
Now he looks like he's two.

Speaker 1 (13:26):
Faced it when in, in actuality, that's who he's
always been.
You get what I'm saying.
So, oh, yeah, I was.
Yeah, it's like I was talkingto, uh, I, I was talking to him
and this this will be rightalong with what you, and tell me
if you think this is what it isfor schumer, because I I think
it's very similar.
It's two sides of the coin.
I was talking with the olderveteran at walmart.
We we talked to vietnam and hehad we ended up chatting his,
his chaplain was horrible,horrible person, did not do his

(13:48):
job.
Well, anyway, as we weretalking, he came around to
politics.
He said you know the one personI don't like.
You know my senator and I waslike lindsey graham.
He goes, yeah, that lindsey guy.
He just I said because it'sbecause he does this, which way
is the wind?
And he goes oh you, oh, that'sexactly what it is.
That's why I don't like it.
He just whichever way the windblows.

(14:09):
And Schumer?
To be fair, I think Schumer ismore committed to the leftist
cause than Lindsey Graham is toconservatism, but I do think
Lindsey Graham is very committedto whatever makes money go into
his pocket.
Exactly so, and that's trueprobably of all of them yeah, I

(14:32):
mean, but that's lindsey and tim.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
That's lindsey and tim from the gate.
Those are two of the griftiestis tim scott like that hell yeah
, tim scott, don't have a damn.
you could ask Tim Scott whatcolor is the sky?
Blue?
He's going to tell you.
Tell me what color it is, and Ibelieve you.
He doesn't have a fuckingpolicy to stand on to save his

(14:53):
fucking life, and that's whatpisses me off about him.
He's a brilliant dude if leftto his own devices, but he's so.
I mean, he's the first blacksenator in God knows how fucking
long, so he's the only.

Speaker 1 (15:07):
He's the only black republican senator in the in the
senate so he's so locked intothat that he's afraid.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
you know, I don't know if he's afraid or he's just
hell to to speak his mind tothe point to where it's like
whatever, whatever you, whateveryou say is what we go.
You know what I'm saying andit's like dude, yeah.

Speaker 1 (15:28):
Well, I mean to be fair.
You know, there there issomething to be said for all of
these.
All of them doing it, very fewof them are going to say
something that goes against theparty and secondly, more
importantly, goes against themthat is going to be used in the
next election.
So, I think a lot of them, alot of them, when they have been

(15:51):
calculating in 2022, oh, isTrump going to come back we
better start being a little morecareful about what we say, and
and so then, with 2004, becausethat's that's part of the reason
is, a lot of them were veryanti-trump and and then, when
the republicans showed up andactually voted, a lot of these

(16:11):
guys lost.
Um, but ultimately, I thinkwe're on the same page, and this
goes, you know, to the, to thetupac motto is like we just want
people who are honest and arethere to do the job to make the
world better.
If you go for two years and youaccomplish nothing and you get
voted out, so be it.

(16:31):
If you go there for two yearsand you just bend over backwards
to get reelected and do nothing, that's worse.
And if you go for two years andyou go against the party
because you think the party'swrong and you lose?
Well then, good, at least youlived up to your morals.
But it's such a money driver.

(16:51):
You know, I've seen that thing,that AOC, and I don't know what
I honestly I have no idea whather net worth is.
But if you think she came outas a bartender didn't have
somebody backing her that wasfull of money, you're crazy,
because you can't but her backer, her backer, her and her backer

(17:12):
.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
I think we talked about this a couple episodes ago
.
Her and her backer had it outbecause she completely abandoned
her district.

Speaker 1 (17:21):
Oh, with the jobs, wasn't it?

Speaker 2 (17:23):
Yeah, she was chasing national clout.
You know what I mean.
It's like alright, hey, thanksfor getting me there.
I got it from here once I'm inthe seat I'm going to pivot on,
and then her district kind offell to the wayside and that's
unfortunate.

Speaker 1 (17:40):
But then you know what falls by the wayside.
But then she wins because it'sthe name recognition Right.
And you know, I really it'stough because it's not just the
name recognition, right If AOCwas doing this in a purple area,

(18:03):
right.
If she was in New York that was, let's say, right on the border
between West Point and the city.
So you got, you know it's stillup for grabs, she's probably
not going to be quite ashardline, right?
But because she knows she's ina safe blue district, she can go

(18:23):
crazy.
And it's true for Republicanstoo.
Yeah, that's why you have somany.
What the conservatives wouldcall rhinos is because you don't
get rhinos in New Mexico.
You don't get rhinos.
You get rhinos in the placesthat are pretty safe Republican

(18:46):
spots like Utah.
You again, you've got this guywho switched over Curtis, who
was in the high up, if notleading, the Democratic Party,
and then, if they don't likewhere they're going, and then
you have the shopping you have.
Who was it?
Who's the other one that you're?
Marjorie Taylor Greene, You'reyour favorite one next to her.
Bobert was that her name?

(19:07):
In colorado, over bobert?

Speaker 2 (19:09):
yeah, over she's so yes well, she lost the primary
in one district, switched toanother damn district and then
she won.

Speaker 1 (19:16):
Yeah, that bothers me right like me, and meanwhile if
your kid wants to go play withhis friends in a different
school high school it's jumpingthrough every hoop in the world
because well, you don't live inthe boundaries and so well we
can't allow you to move fromthis school to that school

(19:37):
because then it's going to throwoff the balance.
It's like what are you talking?
Like we literally were on theborder from one junior, one
middle school to the to the nextone, and the one middle school
that we're assigned to is a good10 minutes away.
The middle school here is abouta five minute drive, but the

(19:58):
borders there and unless we havea compelling reason they're not
going to let.
Let us change your daughterover there, even though the high
schools basically in the samecomplex.
You have the, the elementaryschool, middle school and high
school all right there, walkingdistance, but instead we're at
two.
We're at an elementary schooleight miles down the road and or

(20:21):
six to eight miles down theroad and the middle school is
way down there too.
But but a Congress person canswitch just by getting the
signatures.
And then, even then you wonderhow are they getting the
signatures?
Cause they have people thatthey're able to pay and go out.
Well, it's, it's, it's okay,they can do it, they follow the
rules.
You'd think about getting likesignatures, because I've had

(20:43):
people come and knock on thedoor and I've talked to people.
Um, and, real fast, they, theydon't, they understand when I'm
like dude, I'm not evenregistered here, I'm, I'm
military, I'm registered intexas, like, oh, okay, but I
still talk to them.
Um, but when you're able toswitch, like that, I, I don't
know, I, unless the district isredrawn, do you, can you really

(21:05):
put a rule in place that says ifyou ran in one place, you can't
run in another?
Cause then, not really, youcan't really do that.
But at the same time, it'salmost like you just wish people
would go quit carpetbagging.
Don't, don't come over to ourdistrict, don't?
You know?
You don't need to be here.

(21:26):
You lost.
Try again in two years.
Go on Fox News for the next twoyears.
Go make your money and be happyand be a crazy girl, that's who
knows you might even be asecondary or a sec death.

Speaker 2 (21:38):
if you go to Fox, you'll be all right.

Speaker 1 (21:41):
Well, wasn't Bobbert like caught performing a sexual
act with a boyfriend?

Speaker 2 (21:50):
An old-fashioned in the movie theater.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
Is that what that's called?
I mean handy.
I was trying to say you know,but in the theater it's like
really Meanwhile.
Remember Pee-wee Herman theater, and it's like really meanwhile
, remember peewee herman, peewee, he lost, he lost everything
for years because he was uhgratifying himself in a in an
adult theater no way in.

(22:13):
An adult theater.
Did you?
Did you see the biography?
It came out that, uh, he, sincehe passed away.
What was a year ago?
The biography came out and itsaid paul rubens was gay.

Speaker 2 (22:26):
No, no, I don't know right, it's like I'm shocked,
I'm shocked, I that's oh, Inever would have, but does that
take away from anything as faras his comedy and his persona is
peewee herman.

Speaker 1 (22:40):
No, not, of course.

Speaker 2 (22:41):
Not, he was, I'm starting to realize, especially
being in Washington DC, Irealize there isa different game
being played up there.
That's the majors.
It's mind-boggling how it getsdisseminated through the
airwaves.
Man, if people it's hard, man,but if people were to just turn

(23:07):
off media and just just turn itoff, they would.
They would realize that they'rebeing played both sides, up
down, left and right, the, themanipulation that's going on.

Speaker 1 (23:20):
Isn't that the?
Isn't that the catch-22,?
Though?
Because without the media, howdo you find out on?
Yeah, like you and I, you know,growing up in Utah, the closest
I could have gotten to DC wasgetting.
You know, we didn't have money.
I would have had to get in thecar and drive 24 to 30 hours

(23:44):
non-stop to get to dc if Iwanted to do anything, and it
just it's so impossible to to dothat, and so, um that that asks
a great question.
So media is a problem.
Media is absolutely a big partof the problem, um, and that's
that's something I think.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
That question is literally years that that
question is more complex thanthan it seems on the surface.
Right, because on the surface,media is not the problem.
Right, media is supposed to bethe, the, the bastion of truth,
right?
Um, you look at some of theguys like you know some, some of
my heroes, tom brokaw's.

(24:28):
You know I'm saying some of theguys like you know some some of
my heroes, tom Brokaw, you knowI'm saying some of the, the
stalwarts of media.
Right, they were champions oftruth and integrity.
Right, there was a time when,before he, before, later, later,
brokaw had his situation.
I'm saying let let he, withoutsaying cast the first stone
Right Real journalist, thank you.

(24:48):
He was out saying cast thefirst stone right Real
journalists, thank you.

Speaker 1 (24:52):
Thank you Like so journalistic integrity was a
thing right Before there wereindividuals that had
journalistic integrity.

Speaker 2 (24:58):
There's a difference between journalism and
journalism to media andentertainment.
They went from reporting tonews to making the news for news

(25:23):
entertainment.
The more we shifted to newsentertainment, the more it
became sensationalized andscandalous and we stopped
focused on what, we stoppedfocusing on what was really
important and started focusingon, you know, all of the BS
rhetoric and this and the other.
And then that's when you kindof had your tribalistic news
channels kind of emerge and this, that and the other.

(25:46):
Right, because that was a timewhere you could turn on CBS and
get a little bit.
You could turn on NBC and get alittle bit, you know, and then
even even Fox back in the dayyou were able to get a little
bit.
And then the tabloids werewhere you went to go get all the
crazy stuff.
But now you just I mean, youturn on any news channel and,
depending on what show you'rewatching, you're liable to get

(26:06):
all kinds of crazy stuff, right?

Speaker 1 (26:12):
you're watching, you liable to get all kinds of crazy
stuff, right?
Yeah, I think that, thad there,thad you, you make a good point
.
This is something I've beenarguing for a long time is that
it went from who what, where,when, why, to who what, where,
when.
We are going to tell you thewhy that we think, and we're
going to manipulate the story tofit the why we believe.
Yeah, as far as journalism goes, though, yellow journalism has

(26:36):
been around forever.
I mean hearst, william hearstmade his money off of the
tabloids the new york times.
The new york times was buryinginformation about the holocaust
and about what was going on withthe Jews, and the New York
Times forever.
The New York Times in Americahas kind of been the mouthpiece

(27:00):
of what the news is going to be,and that was true.
That's true Going all the wayback to radio, and when TV first
started, they were getting thewe call them the talking points
now, but the bullet points isprobably more the way to say it.
They were getting the bulletpoints from the New York Times,
and so historically it was thesame.

Speaker 2 (27:22):
I mean, you can go back and look at the you know.
You go back and look at like wetalk about the Lincoln-Douglas
debates a lot, right, we can goback and look at, you know, the
presidential races, thecongressional races.
Hell, ben franklin used to usepropaganda in the media all the
time.
That was like the thing.
So.
So you know, media is in itselfwas not without it.
It's you know what uh hamiltonused to do it on the.

(27:44):
Uh hamilton and burr used itall the time to to to slander
one another.
So the media as a propagandavehicle is not nothing new.
But what I'm saying there was aline where you had journalistic
integrity when it came toreporting the news.
Right, I mean, there wasopinion pieces where you were

(28:05):
able to kind of sway the publicwith your own hearsay, this,
that and the other, and that wasleft for a section.
But when it came to reportingthe actual news, that was kind
of left as a unwritten.
You know say, okay, here's theblack and white, you know, and
then we'll let you kind ofdecide, and then we'll.

(28:26):
Here's the opinion pieces of it.

Speaker 1 (28:31):
You kind of decide and then we'll.
Here's the opinion pieces of it.
I, I guess you can say that,but there are definitely
examples of where that's nottrue either.
Now, I know I've used thisexample lots of times, but the
ted offensive during the vietnamwar.
The ted offensive was aceasefire over christmas which
coincided with the Tet holidayin Vietnam, and there was a

(28:51):
truce called a you know no fireand we're going to pay during
the holiday.
We're going to stop.
And the night of I believe itwas the night of Christmas Eve
and Tet were the same the NorthVietnamese launched a massive,
massive attack against the UStroops and the US was completely
caught by surprise and stillabsolutely dominated the North.

(29:15):
The body count was 40 to one or, I'm sorry, 20 to one.
So for every one US soldierthat was killed, 20 North
Vietnamese and Chinese, butmostly North Korean, I'm sorry.
North Vietnamese Tim Brokaw,now Vietnamese Tim Brokaw Now
you've got Brokaw in my head.
No, no, no, walter Cronkite,uncle Walter got on the news

(29:41):
that night and said this is anew war.
This is because of this.
The United States wascompletely caught off guard and
this is now the turning pointand this might not be a winnable
war.
Now you can say, well, cronkitewas just sharing his opinion,

(30:02):
he was just sharing the news.
If Cronkite had gone on, though, and been honest with the
American people and said the USwas caught off guard, however,
they absolutely held their ownand they dominated the North
Koreans, and this is justanother battle that the United
States has won.
The United States has neverlost it.
The US never lost a battle inVietnam.
They lost the war, and, in part, what he said that night turned

(30:26):
public opinion against that warmore than pretty much anything
else.
And so, yeah, there arecircumstances, but you can go
from there to it wasn't Brokaw,who was the other one that got
fired for lying about George WBush's record.

(30:48):
He used the false records,records from the national guard.
He was trying to get george wbush in 2004.
Not brokaw, the other big um,rather, dan, rather.
That's what he got fired for,remember.
And then you've got uh, I meanyou, you've got williams, who
lied about.
He did the hillary clintonthing.
Oh, we flew in and sniperrifles, and Look at me.

Speaker 2 (31:11):
Look at me, I'm black .
You don't have to convince methat the media, I get it Right.

Speaker 1 (31:17):
Yeah, but I'm not talking just to you.

Speaker 2 (31:19):
I mean from a black, from a black man, stole my baby
to you know.
I'm saying to the welfarequeens like we can go all the
way.
I get it, I get it.
I think you ate my baby, youknow like we can go all the way
I get it, like I get it.
I think you ate my baby Like themedia has never been a friend
of ours and I get it, but thereis still a respect.
You know what I'm saying andthat that's that weird dichotomy

(31:42):
that we have with this thislove hate relationship.

Speaker 1 (31:43):
I call it.
You know that's, that'sinteresting.
I'd be curious if you went backand you looked at and I'm going
gonna use this word becausethat was what they were called
back then the negro newspapers.
Right, the negro papers that umwashington wrote for that, you
know, before du bois came on thescene, uh, but but some of the

(32:05):
uh frederick douglass wrote for.
I'd be curious to go back andsee how much of that was
propaganda versus here's what'sgoing on and how much they were
covering, because I know a lotof these black newspapers were
definitely reporting on thingsthat were going on in the black
community.
That white newspapers sureweren't.

Speaker 2 (32:27):
I mean from from the research that I've done
independently, there was acertain cast of of there.
There was two competingthoughts within the black
community around around the time, right, and a lot of it kind of
bounced off of the whole duboisversus versus, uh, washington
line of thinking, right, um, and, and it's basically, do we know

(32:52):
, do we acquiesce and blend, ordo we, you know, separate but
equal, and that's kind of alwayskind of been the case, and then
, depending on where you fell inline, that was kind of where
you went, you know, for yourmedia, immediate, I would say.

(33:14):
You know, before thisadministration, the National
Archives had a very robustcatalog.
That was really dope.
If you get a chance, though,the South Carolina Museum of
African American History has anamazing catalog on that stuff.
If you guys ever get a chance,man, go check it out.
That stuff is super dope.
But Frederick Douglass wrotesome really amazing opinion

(33:35):
pieces on the matter about howreconstruction, his idea of
reconstruction, how he saw itwork out, which is really I
didn't realize how, behind thescenes, he was intertwined with
the lincoln white house, right.
So, like he was he, he was toyeah, he was to lincoln.

(33:55):
What eli is to trump on anunofficial yes yes, you don't
agree, absolutely, yeah, he wasable to.
He was able to.
Hey, mr lincoln, you shouldprobably use black troops.
Hey, mr Lincoln, now be a goodtime to use black troops.
You know what I mean Like.
So I was even even in learningthat, I was really impressed

(34:17):
with the way, like I wassurprised with the way that he,
with the way that he was able toto at least voice his opinion,
and not saying that, that, youknow, not saying that lincoln
listened to him all the timebecause he, you know, he had his
own thing, but he was stillable to have a, a respected
voice in the administration toan extent, I mean to, to, yeah,

(34:40):
to an extent, uh, which?

Speaker 1 (34:42):
and really and, and he founded I'd forgotten I the
black star was what was throwingme off he founded the north
star, yeah and so, yeah, so hewas, he was in charge of that
and published that at the editorfor a long time.
The first black newspaper wasFreedom's Journal, established
in 1927.
I want to say it was in NewYork, yes, in New York, and it

(35:03):
had a weekly circulation ofabout 50,000 by Samuel Cornish
and John B Russworm were thefirst owned and operated.
So I'm curious, like if youwent back and went through,
let's say, the North Star, howmuch of that was.
And I'm sure Frederick Douglasswas using it to push the Black

(35:24):
cause, which understandably sobut I also wonder how much they
were reporting on things thatwere going on in the black
community that, just, you know,wasn't covered.
You know whether it's a murderor rape or, you know, assaults
or whatever It'd be, interestingto see kind of what they had
that wasn't in the whitenewspapers, because, again, the

(35:44):
New York Times the New YorkTimes absolutely being the, you
know, being the standard beareryeah, they were still picking
and choosing and very activelynot reporting things.
So it's been going on forever.
And that's where there's so few.
I really like and I've saidthis on here several times
Cheryl Atkinson.
I really like her.

(36:05):
I think Greg Meesterbrook counts.
He might not count himself as ajournalist, but I think he
qualifies as a journalist.
He does a lot of things thatthings that at least kind of
fall under journalism.
He's, yes, he's an opinionwriter and a story writer, but
he covers stuff in a way.
He writes about things that are, I think, pretty interesting.
I think Drudge I'd like tothink that Drudge kind of

(36:27):
started off with a journalisticmentality, but I think there was
a point where Drudge I don'tknow who pissed him off, but
there was a point where he wentI'm going anti-MAGA, and maybe
it's just because it makes himmore money, but Matt Drudge for
a long time was seen as a kindof a middle ground where you had

(36:48):
both sides, kind of a middleground where you had both sides
and, and now you go on dredgerreport and it's it's definitely
um, center left, much more thanit was, I think, dead center.
Uh, and you had bright bart he,you know, absolutely a
conservative right.
But one of the things that Ithought was interesting was how
you only have you know the, thecertain media is one way or the

(37:14):
other.
So print media and and uh,especially the networks and all
that, before fox news camearound, almost all of them were
left-leaning right, center left.
And then fox news come along,pushed it on the right, and
that's fine, but again, again,one versus how many?
And with talk radio, though, itwas the complete opposite.

(37:35):
It was almost impossible tohear any left, and it still is.
You talk about AM radio, theequivalent of AM radio between
Rush Limbaugh and Hannity, andthose guys Dominated radio, and
they still kind of do I, I meanI've, I mean yeah, well, the

(37:55):
podcast is interesting.
Did you see that one that wentaround that was saying the
podcast, the left needs to getbetter with podcasts.
And here's the right and here'sthe, the blue and the reds, and
it was how big they were.
And they had Joe Rogan.
Is this big red one in themiddle?
It's like Rogan is not aconservative, rogan, at best, is
libertarian.
And they had Russell brand.

(38:17):
They had Russell brand as redRussell brand.

Speaker 2 (38:21):
Russell brand.
Yeah, that was a stretch.

Speaker 1 (38:29):
Oh really, I Limbaugh .
Yeah, I mean I'm 52, so Iprobably would.
I didn't listen to a lot of Idon't remember a lot of talk
radio.
I remember Paul Harvey.
That was about it, with therest of the news.

Speaker 2 (38:42):
No, yeah, limbaugh was kind of like my introduction
, like coming into talk radio.

Speaker 1 (38:50):
I was local radio before then, so well, yeah,
before that, I mean in the 80s,if you listen to am, you weren't
listening to am for anything,to me at least, other than
sports.
Um, well, that's interesting.
Yeah, liberty, I I I gottaadmit, like I mean, you know, in
the 80s, was also a teenager soI wasn't exactly jumping online
to listen to the stock reports,so it wouldn't surprise me if

(39:16):
there was.
But again, that's where I saythe media, yeah, and Limbaugh
definitely was a pioneer inpushing conservative and
becoming arguably the biggestvoice in radio.
I mean for years, him and Stern, but even Stern never got to
the level of Limbaugh.

Speaker 2 (39:34):
Yeah, stern was cool, cause Stern like Stern was like
unabashed, like hey, I'm anentertainer.

Speaker 1 (39:40):
Limbaugh was crazy.
He was a shock jock.

Speaker 2 (39:42):
Yeah, I like, I like Limbaugh, because Limbaugh was.
He would tell you that I am aentertainment commentator, like
he will.
He will straight up tell youhey, I am, I am an entertainment
commentator, you know what Imean.
Like, like, this is what I doand I do it for entertainment
purposes.
And people will take it as longLike I loved Rush Limbaugh,

(40:05):
like I loved listening to himbecause the dude could deliver a
story man, like he was astoryteller Like heavy, that was
another, was it?
Was it?
I can't remember Speaking of me.
You bring me up.
Yeah, larry King, too, was what.
I only remember hearing stories.
I never really heard him on theradio, I only heard stories of
Larry King, so I don't rememberwhat his content was.

(40:27):
Yeah, I remember the.

Speaker 1 (40:28):
TV.
Yeah, Larry, Larry was on TVsince he was 115 to 190 years
old, so he was there for a while.
But yeah, I think it'sinteresting just in terms of the
radio.
Guys like Limbaugh yeah, hecame on, I'll tell you when I

(41:05):
said Limbaugh lost me a littlebit and it was the part and I
get it, it was his job to dothis.
But when they were about theBrady Bill and they were saying
we need to pass something, soyou need to have a time to be
able to do a FBI check right, A72-hour cool-down FBI check, and
all that, and Limbaugh was justranting and raving about that.

(41:25):
And here I am going, I'm in myearly 20s, thinking but what's
wrong with that?
What's wrong with making surethat somebody who's a felon
isn't going into a gun shop andbuying a gun?
What's wrong with somebody whois freaking out because they
just found out that theirgirlfriend was cheating on them,
needing 72 hours to go in andcool down, and so it just kind

(41:49):
of went from there.
And Hannity was the same way.
I used to listen to Hannity too, and the funny thing now is
when people accuse me oh, youget all your news from Fox News.
I literally have not watched aminute of Fox News outside of
watching election results inprobably the last 20 years I'm

(42:09):
sorry, the last probably fiveyears.
And I don't think that I ammissing out anything on Fox News
because, honestly, I can readthe New York Times and know what
the conservative argument isgoing to be, because I'm a
conservative.
There's very few things.
Now there might be some more indepth some of those things, but

(42:32):
even some of the conservativesblow me away with how weird they
got with the whole Trump thingbecoming anti-Trump.
I left the Republican Partyover Trump when he was first
nominated but then I was like,OK, as policies go in his first
I liked what the economy wasdoing, I liked how he was
treating soldiers, all thatstuff, and so then I vote, and

(42:53):
especially the Supreme Court.
And I think that when we'relooking at what's going on today
, we talk about the media beingdivided between the right and
the left, and it's the samething with the, with the
Congress to take a full Circleto the Congress, to take a full
circle to the Congress.
My sister texted me today andshe said do you know any good

(43:14):
military sources that are justdeliver the news like kind of
right down the middle, I waslike no, there aren't any.
There just really aren't.
And so and part of that isbecause, even if you try to
deliver the news down the middle, you're getting all your news
from one of two slants, right?
So if you're going to say, okay, here's an article about what

(43:37):
Elon Musk is doing this week,and you were to take one from
Fox News and one from the NewYork Times, and then you printed
them next to each other, Ithink that's about as close as
you can get to down the middle,because there's nobody going in.
And as much as people say, well,AI, you know AI is going to be

(43:58):
straight down the middle.
Well, unless you're programmers, unless you're, if you have
people who are programming it tobe one way or the other, we
Google's.
How many times have we seenGoogle caught with their hand in
the cookie jar?
Well, it's like oh well, if youask for the Trump assassination
news on the Trump assassination, none of the results come up.
Or attempted assassination,None of the results come up, and

(44:22):
you can't tell me oh well, thatwas just a small issue with the
algorithm.
No, that is somebody going inand programming it to say we're
not going to cover that.
So, yeah, I think somebody Idon't know who's going to do it
Somebody's going to crack thecode for the media at this point
, and it'll probably be AImerging and saying I'm going to

(44:46):
create an algorithm and I'mgoing to create an AI that reads
any story that comes out.
It then reads both sides andthen it comes up with a who,
what, where, when, why, how, tothe most basic, simple terms.
And even if it's who, what,where, when, which is not

(45:07):
disputed, here's the facts of itand the why.
From the New York Times this istheir synopsis.
And from Fox News here's theirsynopsis.
If you do that, I think youcould have ads all over the
place and you would make anabsolute ton of money from it.

Speaker 2 (45:25):
Dad, I don't know if you're listening, but Chappie
just gave us a million-dollar AIidea.
We can get a developer on that.

Speaker 1 (45:33):
That's a billion dollars.

Speaker 2 (45:34):
I think that will.
That will absolutely slap,because you have a treasure
trove of independence and peoplein the middle who are just
tired of the bullshit on bothsides.
It's just like yo, I'll makethe decision.
If you just give me the bottomline, I'll make the decision on
my own.
Just give me the decision, ifyou just give me the bottom line
, I'll make the decision on myown.

Speaker 1 (45:53):
Just give me the information.
And if you're you and if you'reusing the AI to do it, so if
you think about it like you havesuch a broad spectrum Right, so
far left it used to beWashington Post and the
Washington Post, with Bezos, Ithink, kind of did the Trump
correction.
So while they're still left,they're not as far left right.
But I think if you had analgorithm that could go in and

(46:16):
say here's, and you couldprobably do it, because the way
AI works, like you could even doit on a local level.
Let's say Salt Lake.
Okay, salt Lake City has theSalt Lake Tribune, which is
definitely a left-leaningnewspaper, and the Deseret News,
which is definitely a rightleaning newspaper.
So if they both cover, let'ssay there is a shooting in

(46:37):
Liberty Park in downtown SaltLake City and AI is able to go
in and say here's what theTribune says, here's what the
Deseret News says the who, thewhat, the where, the why are all
the same.
And.
And then it synopsizes this iswhat the Deseret News has as its
synopsis and here's what theTribune has as its synopsis.

(47:00):
Then you as a person are ableto go OK, here's what they both
are.
That means this is probablywhat's true about the why.
This is probably what's trueabout the why, because if I can
get what they both what theyboth think, I can probably find
out.
I can probably think about itfor myself, and that's true for
now.
Maybe it's going to be tougherif you're in, you know, bfe

(47:22):
Georgia that doesn't have morethan one newspaper, like I don't
.
I think the Augusta Chronicleis here.
I don't know if there's anothernewspaper than here.
I think that's it.

Speaker 2 (47:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (47:32):
So, yeah, well, and that is the prompt.
So the question would be, yeah,if you could do the prompting
to where you are generating itin terms of finding the sourcing
.
And you have to get the rightcombination, I think, of the
sourcing, because you can't haveFox News on everything like Fox

(47:54):
News can't be the onlyconservative because Wall Street
Journal I think the Wall StreetJournal does a pretty good job
of being fairly center based.
I think they're probably morecenter than just about any other
major news organization but atthe same time, you still can
read things in the WashingtonPost, I'm sorry, in the Wall
Street Journal, that are prettyfar right and pretty far left.

(48:16):
It's not always right down themiddle.

Speaker 2 (48:18):
I'll read the Wall Street Journal and balance it
with the Financial Times andthen, like between the Wall
Street Journal and the FinancialTimes, I get a pretty good,
robust picture of everything andthen kind of branch out after
that.

Speaker 1 (48:28):
And then that is kind of where I go left to right um,
so I I don't know, I I don'tknow liberty, I think the the as
far as for hard yeah, they slam.

Speaker 2 (48:39):
Yeah, the wall street journal slammed hell out of the
left a lot I don't know yeahand so it was.

Speaker 1 (48:47):
And I think what you also find is that as you go up
the ladder from local tonational, the more leaning you
get.
Right, if you want to go, ifyou open up page 13 of the New
York Times about the citysection, right, there's not a
lot of, there's not a lot ofslant about the fire that
happened in on the 13th block inManhattan.

(49:09):
That happened on the 13th blockin Manhattan.
Same thing with Los Angeles,the LA Times.
You go on and the stuff aboutthe fires is pretty
straightforward and it's when itstarts getting into some of the
hot button issues, there you go.
So that's a great one, that's agreat example.
So when you look at immigrationand if you're saying, ok,

(49:33):
here's the numbers that cameacross the border and here's
some of the challenges, then youcan get straight up information
, straight up numbers.
But then when you start sayingthe why and that's where the
problem comes in, the why If youwant to say, here's the numbers
, here's what's crossed up,here's what, and then when you
get to the why is, well, who'sto blame?

(49:54):
Is it law enforcement?
Is it the policies?
Is it not only that, but what'sdrawing people here?
So the Biden administrationwould say, oh no, the increase.
We shut down the faucet andthere were.
You know, by the end ournumbers were lower than Trump.
Yeah, after three and a halfyears because you let everybody
in that said, I have a problemwith the country I'm in, can I

(50:15):
come in?
And they said, yeah, come on in, right?
So when you get to kind of themore political stuff but again
the Wall Street Journal is notgoing to have issues, when you
say here's what Google did today, here's what Tesla announced
for their next quarter, this iswhat we're forecasting I don't

(50:35):
think the Wall Street Journal is60% and I do think the
editorials, that's where you getinto a problem.
Even seeing it in sports, a lotof people I know a lot of
people on the right, are sayingthat I don't watch SportsCenter
anymore because it's become aleft-leaning.
I got to admit I haven'twatched SportsCenter in 10 years

(50:56):
, but I know some of the stuff.
You read some of the thingsthat have gone on with some of
the reporters and you got towonder about even things like
ESPN, which should be justsports.
But the politics have played apart there.
What just flashed?
The end of the Department ofEducation?
Let's go the Department of EDED.

Speaker 2 (51:18):
You ready?
All right, yeah, so DOE isenergy.
So I learned that.
I learned that in my researchDepartment of.
Education is ED, education is ed.
So, um 47 signed an executiveorder essentially stripping down
the, the department of ed, toits bare bones.
Um, most are signaling,thinking that it may be the end

(51:42):
of um the department ofeducation as it stands.
Um, I don't know.
I don't know.
I got my thoughts, man, but asthe educator, I will, um, I will
acquiesce and let you take thelead and then I'll come in.
I'll come in behind you, basedoff your thoughts, man, and see
what you got going on.
So how do you feel about it?

Speaker 1 (52:04):
um, I think that the report card from the national
went in 1979 nationally to itwas somewhere around a C to C
minus for the overall educationof our country, and then we
spent how many trillions andtrillions of dollars and now
we're at a D plus, so we've gonedown.
So you got to wonder what is itabout?

(52:26):
The Department of Educationobviously didn't help.
What is it about?
The department of educationobviously didn't help.
Um, I think there's a lot ofproblems with the school systems
.
I think there's a problem withthe unions.
I think there's a problem withthe way that our schools have
increased non-teachers uh,disproportionately compared to

(52:48):
teachers, where the enrollmenthas gone up.
What is it?
The overall enrollment ofstudents has gone up in the last
30 years, something like 18%.
The number of teachers has goneup 20% and non-teachers has
gone up 600% some ridiculousnumber.
But then the question and thisis where perception comes in,
and this is where perceptioncomes in and this is where, uh,

(53:12):
we need more information becausethose numbers that go up for
the non-educators, when I'vebeen in the high schools, they
now have these specialtyteachers, specialist teachers
who they are in charge of two orthree kids that are autistic or
some level on the spectrum, andso they basically are there to

(53:35):
make sure they get to class andthey sit in class too, right?
They don't teach, they arestudent herders.
I've got these four kids.
They're on an imaginary leash.
Let's go.
We're going to class.
Hey, all four of you, we'regoing in, going to class.
All right, all you four sitdown.
This is what we're doing.
Listen to the teacher and andthis is elementary school,

(53:57):
middle school and high school, Idon't know where where those
come in.
As far as the funding goes, Idon't know if those count as no,
those are your idea.

Speaker 2 (54:08):
Those are your idea, students.

Speaker 1 (54:11):
No those are your idea.
Those are your idea students.
So those are funded by the DOE.
So, but my question is, as faras the number of hires, when
we're talking about the hires,do those count as teacher hires
or do those count as non teacherhires?
Because while I sit there andgo, well, how do you have so
many?
Because, hey, I've been inthese high schools.
They have four or six mediaexperts in the library.
These kids aren't checking outbooks.

(54:32):
They sit in the library andthey eat their lunch in there
and it otherwise it's a desert.
I I've walked through duringthe planning hours and there's
no kids in there.
They're not using any.
You know they're not.
They're certainly not checkingout books.
But now you have four to sixmedia experts and then you know

(54:56):
it, just it.
That's.
My question is where's thebreakdown as far as where does
the money go?
Because you also, you go backto well, you go back to Malcolm
Gladwell, right, and you look atsome of his books and some of
the interesting arguments hemakes.
It's, it's not about justthrowing money or the class size
, some of those things Like, isthere really a big difference
between?
So let me ask you this, kj, ifyou have a teacher that is

(55:17):
teaching 15 students and youhave a teacher who's teaching 25
students in their classroom.
What should the teacher thathas 25 students in her classroom
make?
More than the teacher that has15?

Speaker 2 (55:38):
Well, it depends, and I don't think either one.
I don't think it should bebased off a class size.

Speaker 1 (55:46):
I don't either, I don't either, but then was
moments.

Speaker 2 (55:49):
But then again it gets into what was the
performance, what's theperformance evaluator?
And then if we go into I'm nota fan of standardized testing, I
don't because I think, you know, when we got into the whole
standardized test thing, I kindof I think we got away from, I
think we got away from educatingas a whole to teaching for the

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test, teaching to the test.
Yep, I think that's kind ofwhat affected the downward slope
.
But that's beyond the point.
I don't think people have afundamental grasp of what the
Department of Education role is.

(56:35):
Right, and it's smoke andmirrors, and this, this
administration, is doing amasterful job with smoke and
mirrors when it comes toconfusing the populace.
Right, they love to make aboogeyman out of everything
Right in the populace.
Right, they love to make aboogeyman out of everything
right.
Everybody likes to talk aboutfunding and, oh, the Department
of Education is getting in theway of funding and this sort of

(56:57):
thing.
The Department of Education atits best is responsible for 10%
of your school's funding At best.
At most.
At most, it's responsible for10% of your children's funding
at best.
At most, at most is responsiblefor 10% of your children's
funding.
What they are responsible foris what you talked about, those
ideas, right?
Individuals with DisabilitiesAct right, that's what they're

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responsible for making surechildren who are disabled or
children who have special needscan be accessible to schools,
basically.
So, if I could break it down,what the Department of Education
is essentially there for is tosay, hey, you can't discriminate
against people withdisabilities, you can't
discriminate against peoplebecause they're a different race

(57:41):
, color, creed or gender, right,and we're here to make sure
that you don't do it.
And oh, by the way, hey, weneed you to report to us every
year so that we can keep a trackof what you guys are educating.
That's your job.
We take that report, we give itto Congress and then Congress
says, ok, cool, you guys aredoing your job.
That is it.

(58:02):
The primary responsibility ofthe Department of Education is
to push out loans to collegestudents.
To push out loans to collegestudents, right, so, on a local
level, k through 12, and then Iposted links for you guys who
will find a loan, the links ifyou click the links inside the
book, it'll tell you exactly howK through 12 is funded and the
percentages, right?
Basically, the Department ofEducation is essentially there

(58:28):
to make sure one.
Hey, discrimination is nottaking place in these state
schools.
Right, that is our primaryfocus.
Our secondary focus is to makesure that students who need
access to college can go tocollege, and we do that by
providing funds.
So those are their two mainresponsibilities.
Everything outside of thatbelongs to your district and

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state level, right, so yourstate and local are responsible.

Speaker 1 (58:57):
Let me ask you, let me ask you a potentially
unpopular question.
Should there be discrimination?
Absolutely not.
Should there be discrimination?
Absolutely not.
Okay, here's why I say thatwhen you have children, again
the feds are not in your schools.

Speaker 2 (59:19):
Did you not hear anything?
I just told you the feds arenot in your schools.
That is a local and staterequirement.

Speaker 1 (59:26):
Click on the links.
Hold on Hold on KJ.
Let me ask you this and, inliberty, give it a second, see
if, see if this makes sense.
That hold on.
I, I know you're you're jumpingto the racial that's.
That's not my point, though,and it could come into play.
So let me ask you this, thoughif you have a child who is on

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the bottom of the intellectualscale, who potentially has, um,
behavioral issues, who is doesnot, uh, is really not able to
regulate their behavior in a, ina way that makes it conducive

(01:00:13):
to them to be in a classroom,should they be in a classroom?
Because I'll tell you right now, they are right and I
understand, I now, I understandthe thought of well, now you're
discriminating if you say theycan't be in the classroom.
No, no, that's notdiscriminatory at that's not
discriminatory at all.

Speaker 2 (01:00:31):
That's not discriminatory at all because if
the if it, if you, if theschool board is allowed to do
their job as they're supposed to, what they're supposed to do is
identify the behavior problemsreported to the social worker
and the social worker, in tandemwith that parent, is supposed
to come up with a individualeducation plan for that student.
Right, if it's done properly,if it's done properly, however

(01:00:53):
common, what's happening isthere is a lapse, it's not being
done properly.
So what you got is you got abunch of bad-ass kids disrupting
the students and the learningin the school.
So yeah, no, I'm completely forme.
So, no, that's notdiscriminatory at all.

Speaker 1 (01:01:08):
Absolutely, it is, because if you say, as this kid
shouldn't be in school, and youdon't give them every hoop that
has to, if you're not followingevery federal regulation.
Now listen, I recently spoke tosomebody who is in education at
the principal level, principallevel.

(01:01:55):
One of the biggest problemsthey have is that they have to.
They are so worried about somany what you just said federal
guidelines and federalregulations, because they're so
worried about the funding beingstrict if they don't meet all of
those regulations Right now.
So that I'm not saying anythingabout the boys, that it being
skin, I don't think it'snecessarily based on skin color.
I think it's much more based onsocioeconomic, because if you
have white, black, brown,whatever, if the kids are
generally, generally poor, theydon't have some of the benefits
that go along with goodnutrition, with good leadership

(01:02:20):
in the school, two parents inthe house, all those things that
go along right.
But what we've done is bysaying every kid, basically
every kid, no matter who theyare, no matter how they perform,
no matter how they they act,has to have the right to be in
elementary school, middle schoolor junior high, because if you
don't put them in regularelementary, the regular

(01:02:41):
elementary school, down the,down the hill.
And look, I'm not talking aboutthe ones that just need a
little bit, I'm talking aboutthe ones that just need a little
bit.

Speaker 2 (01:02:51):
I'm talking about the ones that really, again, again,
let me stop you because that'snot a federal.
Again, that is not a federalmandate.
That is not.
That is not what is a federalmandate.
Is the food program that wasthat was amended by this
president, right?
So when we talk about thenutrition issue, that is
something we can talk aboutbecause that is a federal food
program, right?
The federal funding for food,however common that, is

(01:03:14):
dependent on your staterequirement, right?
So you're talking about thiskid having to be oh, he has to
be in school.
Those truancy policies are setby your local school boards.

Speaker 1 (01:03:26):
I'm not talking about truancy.
No-transcript, no hold on.
You're talking about him havingto be in school.
That's not what I'm talkingabout.
What I'm talking about is theparent says hey, I got to go to
work.
The single parent says I got togo to work, my son, he deserves
to be in the school, I don'tcare if he can.
Friends of ours, okay?
Military family Military familyWhite military family military

(01:03:54):
family white um, their daughtertook a pair of scissors and,
while the teacher wasn't looking, cut up the teacher's coat.
Now, this was years ago, thiswas 15 years ago.
They would not kick her out,they did not suspend her, they
didn't do anything because, well, you know, we, we have to let
everybody, everybody has.
And she was a massivedestructive, destructive force

(01:04:17):
to the learning of all the otherkids, right?
So what point?
Because you can't just go ohwell, these kids are performing
well, these kids aren't thesekids, and separate them that way
.
We, we go by age and then youhave the educators who are so
scared and so worried aboutfailing kids.

(01:04:38):
You're right and I I get it.
We're talking about, we'retalking about a whole wide thing
here between the do departmentof education and low right.

Speaker 2 (01:04:46):
But that's still.
That still falls on the staterequirement.
Because the state says, hey,you have to maintain this, this
enrollment level, to be, to beaccess this funding Right.
And then on a local, on a localtax, on a local tax level.
If your enrollment level dropsbelow you know 500 kids, for you
know third grade level, you'renot going to get this tax.

(01:05:09):
So again, people will blamethat, people will blame that and
say, oh well, the feds aredoing this, that and the other
one, and when in reality that'snot really a federal issue, but
aren't the feds setting theguidelines to start?
No no, they're not.
That's a state, that's a stateguideline, that is state
regulation and a local guidelinethat is based off of your state

(01:05:29):
and local.
And then that's why I tellpeople a lot of people, just
smoke and mirrors thing has itconfused so what keeps?

Speaker 1 (01:05:36):
okay, so then, what keeps the federal if you remove
the department of education andit's gone, poof or poof, but
there's this much left becauseyou know it's a department that
was created by the legislatureand therefore it can't be poofed
completely away, but it can bestaffed and it can be neutered

(01:06:00):
to to a degree that it's notgoing to come back.
What stops the state of Georgiafrom basically doing all the
things that the federal mandatesfrom basically doing?

Speaker 2 (01:06:12):
all the things that the federal mandates had in
place.
The only federal mandate, theonly federal mandate that that
is beholden by the state, is toreport every year that you have
tested your students to acertain criteria set by the NAEP
Right.
And then this so hold on, getthis.
The federal department ofeducation doesn't even dictate

(01:06:35):
what state you get to pick.
The states get to pick the test.
So Georgia and Alabama have twoseparate tests.
Florida has a separate test.
The tests aren't even equal, soall they do is maintain the
accountability so that they cansend it to Congress and say hey
look, this is where Georgia isbased off of the test that they
pick right and you know whatthat sounds like.

Speaker 1 (01:06:56):
You know what that sounds like.
That sounds like on officespace.
When they say when, when thebobs are there, and they say, so
, what do you do here?
He says, well, I take the specsfrom the customer and I give
them to the engineer and theysay so again.

Speaker 2 (01:07:10):
That's not their role .
No, no, no, that's not theirrole.
That's like getting mad at.
That's like getting mad.
That's like getting mad at whatdamn?
That's like getting mad at afish, because the fish can't
climb a tree.
You're upset at the Departmentof Education for something that
is not the part.
The Department of Education wasset in place so that there

(01:07:31):
could be non-discrimination.
Their job is to sit back andsay, hey, state, stop
discriminating against thoselittle kids in those rural, in
those rural areas.
The kids in the rural areas andthe kids in the metro areas
have to have the same level ofeducation.
So you have to maintain youhave to maintain a level of
testing that is equivalent.
You have to maintain a level oftesting.

Speaker 1 (01:07:52):
That is equivalent, and this is the same thing.
Liberty's point is and I tellyou right now, this is Liberty's
point let's say Georgia.
Why can't Georgia do that ontheir own?

Speaker 2 (01:08:04):
Why can't Georgia say ?
Because prior to 1979, we haveproven time and time again
states left alone Look atMississippi, look at Alabama
States left alone to their owndevices can't do right.
That's like, that's like askingwell, hell, if we, you know, if
we don't need a civil rightsbill because you know people

(01:08:26):
should be able to do right ontheir own.
People can't even put their ownchakram cards back, you know
what the right thing is.

Speaker 1 (01:08:34):
Do you think things have gotten better, though,
since 1979?

Speaker 2 (01:08:39):
No no.

Speaker 1 (01:08:41):
So how much money has been spent on education in part
, controlled in part by thestandards of the Department of
Education, in the past 45 years?
And if it hasn't gotten better,well, I mean, I don't know.
Your argument is well, don'tput it back on the states,
because historically the stateshave sucked at it.
No, I'm not saying that.
Well, the federal governmentsucked at it too.

Speaker 2 (01:09:02):
No, no.
What I'm telling you is it'snever been away from the state.
You guys are blaming theboogeyman that does not exist
and that's the.
That's the main.
I'm saying.
The main issue of this, thisadministration, is they.
They're set up a boogeyman Onceagain.
This is the DEI argument.
All over again.
You're falling for theboogeyman, when the fact, when
you're, you're fighting a fightthat does not exist.

(01:09:23):
The states have always been themain.
The states have always been themain driver of education.
Your smoke is not with theDepartment of Education, your
smoke is with your state.

Speaker 1 (01:09:37):
What you said was that the federal government's
job is to limit discriminationin part between the, in part
between the big cities and therural districts, and then to
report that they tested Right.

Speaker 2 (01:09:54):
And you asked me about the Department of
Education.

Speaker 1 (01:09:56):
You asked me about funding.
Ok, hold on, but what you justsaid was those are the two
things is making sure that thestudents in the rural and the
urban, the white and the blackall get the same opportunities
and that they do a test right,that's right.
Okay, georgia, why can't theDepartment of Education in

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Georgia have those same rules inplace and says hey, especially
since we're now 45 years pastthat, we're 60 years past the
Civil Rights Act.
Right of saying hey, we areevolved in us as a state and as
a culture now that we are notgoing to discriminate against
white kids and black kids.
We're going to say that ifyou're a kid that lives in
Waynesboro, go ahead.
So we're going to at Georgia,we are going to uphold the

(01:10:43):
standards.
So, if it doesn't matter, ifyou're in Waynesboro or in
Atlanta, you are going to haveaccess to the same level of
school and you're going to passthe same or you're going to take
the same Georgia state test.
And then, at the end of theyear, georgia is going to report
to the Georgia senator or theSenate or whoever you want, and

(01:11:04):
say we did it.
Do you need an entiredepartment, cabinet level,
department to do that, or can itbe done by the states?
Because this is where I look atit.
Let me finish the thought.
This is where I look at it.
The 10th Amendment was therefor a reason, and I understand

(01:11:25):
the arguments against the 10thAmendment because that's why we
had a civil war to some degree.
But we are now 160 years pastthe Civil War.
We're 60 years past the CivilRights Act.
We are at a point where, ingeneral, I would argue, we are
much more tolerant of each otheras people, racially especially.

(01:11:47):
Now politically not so much.
I think politics has kind ofreplaced the racism right the
blue hates the red, much morethan the white hates the black
and the black hates the white.
I think that's much more thecase these days.
But I think that that's why,when you go back and you say the
states are the ones that shouldbe doing this, that's what the

(01:12:10):
problem is right, dick get.

Speaker 2 (01:12:13):
I'll get back to that in a minute which I'll be back
to that.
That one right there.
Our fear is that future leftistpresidents will use DOE to make
all schools work, so againchasing the boogeyman, but go
ahead.
Go ahead and finish it up,because I want to know.
So here's the thing Right, your,your, your.
Your issue is twofold.
Right, you say well, how, howdo we know the states are going

(01:12:33):
to do the right thing?
Because we have forty, five,forty plus years of case studies
saying that they won't.
Right, you said since 1979.
Our scores, our score levelshave been going down, right,
right.
And I just told you, you,everybody wants to blame the DOE

(01:12:54):
.
Right, oh, it's the DOE.
Well, the DOE done it, the DODEdid it.
No, all the DOE Not me, by theway.
No, I'm just saying no, the the,the national, the national
rhetoric is oh, because of theDOE, all test levels have been
going down.
The only thing the DOE, alltest levels have been going down

(01:13:15):
.
The only thing the DOE donesince its inception is saying,
hey, every year, report yourfindings to us so that we can
give it to Congress, so that wecan have accurate reporting.
So we can't sit back and say,well, how do you know states are
going to do the right thing?
And then sit back and say, well, you know, it's the DOE's fault
.
All the DOE does is report thedata that the states are in
charge of implementing.

(01:13:35):
The states have a.
Now, if we were to blame the DOE, you would have to.
You would have to say okay, doe, we have one standardized test
for all 50 states and then wehave empirical data to say, cool
, this is the one standardizedtest now we can make.
Now, all the matters factor.
But because you have 50individual tests that are that

(01:13:58):
are based off, that changes withthe wind, depending on how they
want to do it, and the statsmatter and the stats bounce,
based off administration, you,you know, wherever, wherever,
regional, whatever, there's noway you can do it.

(01:14:18):
You know what I'm saying.
It's all state led.
So you can't be mad at the DOEfor something that the states
control and you say, well, howdo we know the state?
You know, how do we know thestates can't control it?
Well, the states have beencontrolling it since the
inception of the DOE.
All the DOE has done iscompiled the data and reported
it.
So everything that you're upsetabout being the DOE nationally,
you're really upset that thestates have been mismanaging it.

(01:14:39):
The states have beenmismanaging the funding the
states and the districts havebeen mismanaging.
The states have beenmismanaging it.
Yeah, none of that iscontrolled by the DOE.
None of that, none of that.
That's all states and schoolboards.

Speaker 1 (01:14:54):
Ok, so the Department of Education has 41.
As of now, they're cutting it,of course, when President Trump
was inaugurated, the departmentworkforce for the department of
education, student 4,133.
Sure, um, after recent quote,unquote, it said today's action.

(01:15:17):
So the recent actions, uh, theworkforce will be roughly 21,083
workers.
Okay, so about half with a 68billion dollar budget.
Okay, okay, so to me if thestates can do everything that

(01:15:38):
the department of education cando, and that means you're saving
, let's say, let's say they'reonly going to cut half of the
employees, like the numbers gofrom 41 to 21, and the budget
goes from $68 billion to what'sthat?
$34 billion is half of that.
Sure, to me that's still a winfor the American people, because

(01:16:02):
what you said is it's still atthe state level and things for
education, the failure ofeducation, is at the state level
.

Speaker 2 (01:16:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:16:12):
Now I would say this, though, because of there's so
much that goes in on why theschool system is failing, and I
don't want to blame you, don'twant to blame the kids, right,
and I don't think it'snecessarily the kid's fault.

(01:16:35):
But the kids are part of theproblem.
But the other big problem and Ithink this goes back two
generations you had the kind ofthe hippie generation that was
breaking away from thetraditional 1950s nuclear power

(01:16:55):
or nuclear family.
You know the, you button upyour shirt and you go to work at
the bank.
And to the hippie, and, and you, how dare you, how dare you um
smack your kids, right spankingand dr spock and all that stuff.
And you had, and that's now thegrandparent.
Those are now the grandparentsbecause they raised parents who

(01:17:18):
didn't push education for theirkids, didn't push the right way
to raise your kids, who said I'mgoing to just have the kid go
to school and, hey, it's theschool's job to educate.
And now you're one moregeneration down from that.
That makes it even worse, sothat, yes, the parents are a
huge, huge problem, if not thenumber one present.

Speaker 2 (01:17:42):
We got a little bit, a little bit of different
dilemma in our, in our, in oursociety.
But yeah, so so we weresystemically.
So just to give you a littlecontext, right, Because America
likes to do that from time totime, right?
America likes to throw a stoneand then pull their hands back
and be like, oh, what the hellhappened, right?

(01:18:04):
So in the 1980s, this guy namedReagan, this guy named Reagan
not sure if you're familiar withhim, right?

Speaker 1 (01:18:10):
By the way, post that .
That's dead on with that one.
Yeah, the most recent.
Yeah, yeah, Absolutely yeahabsolutely Get rid of critical
thinking.

Speaker 2 (01:18:20):
Yeah, so I'm going to be your peek behind the curtain
, right?
So in the 70s and 80s, right Inthe 70s and 80s, the government
did this thing in our communityand communities of people that
look like me, right, they, theypaid, they paid mothers, right,
and they took the fathers andthey put them in jail and they
say, hey, you don't need fathers, you don't need fathers, We'll

(01:18:41):
take care, we'll take care.

Speaker 1 (01:18:43):
That was 10 years before Reagan.
No, no, no, no.
This is all about poverty.

Speaker 2 (01:18:48):
Hold on, we ain't got there yet.
I'm just giving you the backstory.
Before we get there, oh so, allright.
So now, now that all thefathers are in jail, right?
So, now that all the fathers injail, and you got these, you
got these delinquent teens withnothing to do, right so, all the
fathers in jail.
So in the 1980s, what do we do?
We hit them with this thingcalled crack, right?
And then we go in and wesystematically try to wipe out

(01:19:10):
the Black community, right, andwe devastate an entire
generation in 1980, right, that1980, well, you look at it now,
that 1980 generation, those areour grandparents, those are our
parents, right?
Those are our parents, right?
Those kids from the 1980s,those are our 40-year, 40 year

(01:19:30):
olds.
So now you got a bunch of 40,30 and 40 year olds who grew up
without parents, trying to learnhow to be parents.
Right, so we grew up withoutparents and all we knew was
survival, because our parentswere strung the fuck out on
drugs, right, we didn't know.
We didn't know about school.
We was trying to figure out howto survive, right?
So now we're trying to figureout how to put our kid in school

(01:19:52):
.
We didn't have structure.
We had to put structuretogether, and it's not an excuse
, it is a result, it is a causeand an effect.
Because this happened, we arenow left with these effects,
right, and you have to deal withthat you have.
You can't throw a stone and belike, oh well, why can't they
figure this out?
Why are all their kids bad?
Because we didn't have that.
So now it takes a generation,of course correction, right.

(01:20:15):
So this generation is like allright, cool, hey, we're going to
figure it out.
So next generation, I supposethe Gen Z guys.
They're a little loopy, buttheir generation will be washed
out.
Their generation is gettingwashed out, right.
So my kids are growing up withstructures.
You're starting to see thatcourse correction from the 80s.
You're starting to see morefathers back in the house Right,

(01:20:38):
but that took 40 years, ofcourse correction, right.
So America is implicit in theircause.
You can't, you can'tsystemically wipe out a
generation of fathers andfamilies for 30 years and then
come back and be like, oh well,hell, why are they schooled so
bad?
Why are their kids so bad?
Why are their families so bad?
Why are their communities sobad?

(01:20:58):
Because for 30, 35 years yousystematically tried to
eradicate them from the face ofthe earth.
That takes time to coursecorrect and now you're starting
to see it get course corrected.
So those are the effects ofwhat happened and now we're
starting to see it get coursecorrected.

Speaker 1 (01:21:20):
So that that sort of stuff takes time, right?
Ok, let me ask.
Let me ask you a question.

Speaker 2 (01:21:22):
I need to ask you a question.

Speaker 1 (01:21:23):
Yeah, if that's OK and I'm not saying that's not
the case in the black communityRight, yeah.
And then why are the testscores down for the white kids
too?
Because we didn't have crack,we didn't know no, you didn't
have track.

Speaker 2 (01:21:38):
But what you guys caught, what you guys caught,
what you guys caught becausecrack wasn't contained, right,
crack wasn't contained, itspilled out.
But then, when it spilled out,you guys ran into that thing
called what was it?
What was before meth?
No, no, fentanyl.
Now it was meth before then itwas meth in the trailer parks
before then.
Because it, because drugs drugsisn't, and that's the thing.

(01:22:01):
Drugs isn't, isn't a, it isn'ta race issue, it's a class issue
.
Right, poor is poor.
At the lowest commondenominator, poor is poor.
But what I'm saying?
We get that, we get that.
But what you'll see on TV isthey won't show poor white.
What you'll see on TV and whatyou'll hear is you'll hear

(01:22:23):
ghetto queen rhetoric.
Right, what you'll hear isyou'll hear ghetto queen
rhetoric.
What you'll hear is our ghettosare being destroyed.
What you'll see is you'll hearghetto queen reddit.
What you'll hear is our ghettosare being destroyed.
What you what you'll see isyou'll see my face.
Right, I'll be the face.
I'll be the face of poverty.
You won't see that other sideyeah, you won't see that other
side is it possible?

Speaker 1 (01:22:42):
is it possible that you see that face on tv and say
that looks like me becauseyou're more sensitive to that,
because you are black?
Absolutely, not Absolutely.
Cause.
When I I mean okay, cause whenI'm watching, I'm not like oh my
gosh, look at all the, look atall the poor black kids that are

(01:23:04):
just running on running a mock,and they're just horrible.
I look at it and go.
Our school system is broken forwhite kids and they're just
horrible.

Speaker 2 (01:23:12):
I look at it.
Go, our school system's brokenfor white kids, black, yeah, but
then again brown kids, whateverright, but then again you're
also tone deaf to the dogwhistles that I told you about a
couple of months ago.
I said, hey, dei, is a dogwhistle for black?
You was like no way.
You were like no way.
I said, hey, woke, is a dogwhistle for black?
He was like no way.
No, I don't think woke is.

Speaker 1 (01:23:32):
I'll agree that TEI has become that, but I don't
know what.

Speaker 2 (01:23:36):
I'm telling you, but I'm telling you these things,
these things, these things,these things, all that they are,
I get it.
I get it.
Liberty, you can say that,right, it's that hundred, it's
that hundred snake it that?
Right, it's that 100 snaketheory.
Right, it's that 100 snaketheory.
Again, it's that 100.
You never heard the MuhammadAli 100 snake theory?
No, what's that?

(01:23:56):
If I'm locked in a room, right,if I'm locked in a room and
there's 100 snakes waiting outthere to get me, and out of
those 100 snakes, 10 snakes meanme good, 10 snakes aren't going
to bite me Should I open thedoor and let all 100 snakes in,
knowing that 10 snakes is goingto protect me, or should I just
lock the door and keep all 100snakes out for my well-being?
What's the best course ofaction?

(01:24:17):
Of course, lock all out, right.
And what I'm saying is yeah,you may not hear you when you
hear DEI.
You may not hear, you may nothear, you may not hear that.
But I'm telling you that's whatit is.
That is the tool.
That is the tool that they useRight.

Speaker 1 (01:24:38):
That is the tool that they use for discrimination.

Speaker 2 (01:24:40):
It is what it is.
So, ok, hold on.
So we've talked about thisbefore.
I have just got, we've got,we've that's.

Speaker 1 (01:24:43):
OK, we've talked about this before that that woke
originally came from the blackcommunity and now the one of the
ladies that I go when I do myplasma her mom was one of the
founding members, basically likethe pre black Panther, and so
we had a long discussion.
It was really cool to actuallytalk to her.

(01:25:04):
She was there with her momtalking when her mom was talking
about the black Panthers andthe woke and all that.
So we were talking about allthat, but I think that the
average person, when they hearwoke, does not think black.
I really don't think that's thecase.
I think the average person sayswoke is leftist, now DEI.
I think DEI, like you said, hasbecome kind of the, the racial.

(01:25:29):
Hey, di, they're black.
Therefore, and we've seenexamples, unfortunately, uh,
like removing the black medal ofhonor recipient from the
website, removing jackierobinson, like you're removing
jackie robinson.
Who is doing this?
You idiots.

Speaker 2 (01:25:43):
Whoever the lowest level is removing this needs to
be fired okay, okay, they'reblaming it on the computer
algorithm doing that Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:25:53):
Well, that again who was.
But then the question becomeswho programmed the algorithm?

Speaker 2 (01:25:58):
Okay, Right, that's what I'm saying, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:26:01):
So, but let's go.
Final thoughts here.
We only have about four minutes, right.
So I do want to make one pointon the education, and it's the
teachers and this and that.
And part of the problems iswe've gotten to the point where
we misunderstand things likeWell, I don't want to be tracked

(01:26:23):
, I don't want the government toknow what I'm doing, and so how
dare the government have anyway to know where I am or what
I'm doing?
That, just gosh.
If the government just stayedout of my business.
Okay, I make that point because,personally, I would like to see
a camera in every single schoolclassroom that the parents of

(01:26:46):
that student Now just like I,can go on and I get the code and
I can see my kid's report cardschool classroom.
That the parents of thatstudent now, just like I, can go
on and I get the code and I cansee my kids report card.
I should be able to go in andlog in and bloop there's the
history class.
There's my son, what is hedoing or not doing?

(01:27:07):
Absolutely, I go in, but you,but they won't allow it because
of the privacy stuff, and itgoes both ways.
A lot of them will say well,it's, the teachers don't want
them in there because then theycan indoctrinate.
Look, it doesn't matter.
I want parents to be able to goin at any point, to drop in on
their kid's classroom and knowwhat's going on and that it's

(01:27:31):
never been done.
I don't think you can do it, Idon't think there's anyone that,
unless you're talking aboutsomething else.
But I don't think they allowany cameras in because, like,
realistically and I hate to saythis and this would be super
unpopular but if some pedophileis logging in and somehow hacks
into the system and is able towatch the kids class and does

(01:27:56):
whatever they do, that's notharming the kids.
Nobody, I don't want it.
Of that, of of parents beingable to see what's going on in
the classroom, outweigh the verysmall possibility that somebody
with bad intentions is able tohack in and watch little jenny

(01:28:20):
or little bobby scribbling ontheir paper and somehow is
sexually gratified by that.
So, kj, you've got the lastword.

Speaker 2 (01:28:27):
We've only got about 90 seconds boom, man, I actually
think that's a dope idea.
I'm all for it.
I think, if you get, if you can, if you could at least play
video back, like for a parentteacher conference, of your
child's behavior, or at least beable to send a video to the
parent at the end of the day tosay, hey, look, this is your,

(01:28:48):
this is the way your child wasbehaving in class.
That would stop a lot of thatrhetoric of, no, my child
doesn't behave like that.
And that would prompt theparent to try to clean up.
Right, yeah, that's right.
Yeah, we really don't have alot of that.
And then no final thoughts, man.
And then no final thoughts, man.

(01:29:14):
No, that's not what I'm tellingyou, Liberty.
What I'm telling you is theadministration is telling you
that DEI is racist by theiractions, brother, that is, that
is what the, that is what theadministration is telling you,
and I will leave it at that forfinal thoughts.
Man, as always, thank you guysso very much.
Hey, we are going to starthaving guests.
Man, us, man.
As always, thank you guys sovery much.
Hey, we are going to starthaving guests, man.
Listen, we got a lot of guestslined up next week or in the
next couple of weeks.
A lot of guys are showinginterest, so be on the lookout

(01:29:38):
for that, guys, we're going tobring in a lot of fresh faces in
the next coming weeks.
Man, we can't wait to get backto you guys.
I will see you guys next week.
Boom Last thought All right andwe are out of here Next week.
Next week Next week Boy.
Next week, chaplain you good.

(01:29:59):
Next week Three, two, one.
See you guys next week we out.

Speaker 1 (01:30:05):
Chief man, what do you want to do tonight?

Speaker 2 (01:30:11):
The same thing we do every night.
Pinky, Try to take over theworld.
All right, yo, let's get intoit.
Try to take over the world.

Speaker 1 (01:30:18):
You're preaching treating the cops.
Try to take over the world.

Speaker 2 (01:30:26):
And bring this chaplain in the world.
Mr Lance O'Neill, Try to takeover the world.
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