Insider Gains & International Pains

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I'm gonna go live on the internet.
Gee Ray, what do you want to dotonight?

Speaker 2 (00:06):
The same thing we do every night Pinky, Try to take
over the world.

Speaker 3 (00:13):
Alright, yo let's get into it.
Try to take over the world.

Speaker 4 (00:17):
You're preaching treating the public.
Try to take over the world.

Speaker 3 (00:24):
And great chaplain in the world, mr Lance O'Neill,
try to take over the world.
And greatest chaplain in theworld, mr Lance O'Neal, trying
to take over the world.
What up, what up, what up, whatup, what up world.
This your boy, kj Bradley, andthe world's greatest chaplain,
mr Lance O'Neal.
We are back on another Sunday,getting ever closer to that

(00:45):
two-year anniversary man.
Our two-year anniversaryepisode is holy smokes, man.
One week away, two weeks away,we got the 27th of April.
Two weeks away.
We are there.
But tonight, tonight, we are inthe building, we are in the
house, we are live and in fulleffect.
Chappy.
How you doing, man, doing well,how are you?
I'm good man, rocking androlling.

(01:05):
So, before we get into thenitty and gritty, you got into
the Masters again, you lucky man.

Speaker 5 (01:12):
How'd you pull it off ?
Okay, so at Ford Eisenhower,the MWR, which is kind of the
group that is there for the Armyto have morale, what is it,
m-dub?
Morale, welfare and Recreation.
Yeah.
So the people that are onEisenhower can go sign up and

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then they do a lottery.
So they have 100 badges andthey split it up over the four
days, so 400 chances, but youhave to put what day you want to
put in and then they do thelottery and they generate the
list.
So I went in, I checked thelist and I was number 131.
I was like, okay, there's just,there's just no way.

(01:54):
That sucks, I'm not going to beable to go this year.
So I'm, I'm upstairs just inthe bathroom in the morning
getting ready, and my wife comesin and she goes hey, mwr is on
the line for you.
And this was like nine.
I was like, wait, what?
So hello.
And hey, do you still want togo to the Masters?

(02:14):
I was like, yeah, like how?
Like that means 32 peopledidn't answer the phone, didn't
check the list or said no.
So I was like like, yeah,they're like well, okay, well,
you know it'll be here.
I was like, oh, I'll be therein like 40 minutes and I live 30
minutes away.
So I went down, got the ticket.

(02:35):
Um, in the meantime my wifestarted making the list of who
you know christmas presents andshe's like, okay, okay, so this
number of shirts will be $15each.
And I'm like I didn't sayanything but I was like I didn't
even realize because I didn'tremember how much the prices
were last year.
I knew $15 was low.

(02:57):
The t-shirts are $32 each, soyou have to pay for the badge,
which is about $120.
And then you go and you knowall the stuff I got, because we
got family members, I got hatsand shirts for people and
everything.
And at the end of it she's likewe spent like wait, she didn't
know it was also $100 in frontright, she spent like $1,000 to

(03:21):
go to the Masters.
I was like, yeah, but I mean wegot a lot of those shirts and
everything.
They're really cool and I'mretiring this year, so I won't
be able to be on that list.
So I'm like anybody else.
After that, where it's you, youcan go online, you can apply.
I had you apply for me, just incase you got the tickets you
could give me.
It was no, I had another buddydo it, another my brother did so

(03:44):
like oh for four.
So the odds of getting it justgoing online are just kind of
really, really small.
And then like to go to it tofind somebody that has a ticket
or is selling you the ticketsaround here for Sundays.
You're talking somewhere around$2,000.
And if it's a big name likeRory I think he he was was

(04:07):
probably he probably boosted thecost by, I'd guess about 500
bucks.
So it was good for mackaroy towin um, but the other cool thing
was when I got there on onfriday, tony finow's the guy I
follow.
He's lds and from salt lake andI followed him and he ended up
not making the cut.
He was on 17, had a pretty goodor 16.
If he'd made that putty wouldhave had a pretty good or 16.
If he'd made that putt he wouldhave had a pretty good chance

(04:28):
and he missed.
It was what I mean.
You're watching going.
Oh, he should make this.
Right, he couldn't buy a puttall day and I saw these three
kids and I went over.
I'm like, hey, aren't you guysTony's kids?
And they're like yeah.
So I was talking to his twokids and they have one of the
cousins there and we were justtalking a little bit about what

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they do.
They're homeschooled.
One of them goes, the cousingoes to high school in Salt Lake
and we were just talking it wascool.
I mean, it's not like.
I mean they're kids.
It's not like I'm starstruckbecause they're Tony Pinault's.
You know kids.
Oh, I'm gonna get in with this.
Ah, yeah, so it was.
It was cool, though.
It's great.

(05:10):
So a buddy of mine.
Just one last thing buddy ofmine.
When I called him, he was likeoh, so you're going to white
person's mecca, huh?
And I was like, yeah, you knowwhat?
That's a pretty gooddescription.
I like that white person mecca,but but if you've never, if you
ever have the chance and thatthere's plenty of black people
there, there's plenty ofhispanic yeah, people of all
golf is universal man like it'syeah, for sure.

(05:34):
But if you ever have the chanceto go now I have not been to
japan, but I can imagine thatthe masters is as close to the
Japanese culture in Americayou'll get, because when you go,
just the level of hospitalityand the goodwill between people,
I've never seen it anywhereelse.
And it's like people set uptheir chairs and if you walk up

(05:58):
and there's an empty chair youcan just go sit down in it.
Or like I didn't have my chair,but I did last year, I had my
chair and I walked up.
Hey, that's my chair, they gocool, got up, no questions, it's
no big deal.
People have their stuff thatthey buy in the clubhouse, put
it under their chair.
They don't worry about itgetting stolen.
It is.

(06:18):
It is truly like the hype if wecould take what happens at the
Masters and spread thatmentality out across America.
That is what we want.
We just want everybody to actlike you're at the highest level
of golf tournament in the worldand this country would just be
phenomenal.

(06:38):
We would be kumbaya, everybodywould get along.
There wouldn't be any problemsbecause the resolutions are just
like oh hey, man, you know,sorry, bump into, oh, sorry, I.
Oh yeah, no problem.
There was a spanish guy droppeduh bumped.
I was standing next to a guyand he bumped into the beer.
Was he set the beer down?

(06:58):
There wasn't very much on it,oh sorry.
You know, it's just likeeverybody is just a different
level of culture, and we talkedabout it last week when you had
your list of you know that'spart of it too.
Like you can look at the moneyand say, well, this is the
amount that people get if theyhave money, but the other part

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of it is when people have money,they have a higher level of
society and a higher level ofculture too.
So you don't see a lot ofextremely rich people going into
a grocery store or into aconvenience store and making
fools of themselves, like yousee online with the clip

(07:40):
Everybody's favorite fail, youknow fail clips.
So, yeah, it was great, thoughI encourage anybody if you ever
have the chance, go online andjust applying it.
I mean, even if you're notthere, if you have the chance,
if you're in California, ifyou're in wherever, and you and
you apply for the tickets andyou're able to go.
If you have any chance of going, you absolutely should.

(08:01):
It's just, it truly is a I'dsay, once in a lifetime
experience but you know, I knowI've got twice.

Speaker 3 (08:08):
It's yeah, it is, it is the super bowl of golf and it
absolutely lives up to that,that standard.
Every year it is oh it's, it'sbetter than the super bowl it is
I would go to the masters overthe super bowl yeah, I don't
know about thatyeah, it's nice, like the
masters like it.
It's really a cool event, Likepeople you know if you're into,
not even if, even if you're inthe golf like this right, just

(08:29):
by the experience.
So just experience and it is adope.
But anyway, we got business totend to.
Are you ready to jump in mybrother?

Speaker 5 (08:38):
Was that too much banter?
I've read that people don'tlike the banter part of of any
podcast.
I don't think that's banter.
I think we're talking.
That was societal.

Speaker 3 (08:48):
I mean, the Masters is a pretty big event, man, and
it's, you know, just like if itwas a World Series, super Bowl,
yeah.

Speaker 5 (08:56):
You know, and while we're not a sports broadcast, I
think we could absolutely do aTupac's Cover Sports podcast and
we could easily do that, maybeif you guys all get enough
people coming through andgetting enough subscriptions,

(09:17):
because right now we're up to ahard two nickels.
We've made two nickels off ofthis.

Speaker 3 (09:22):
Just about Nine cents , almost Nine cents last month.
So we are rolling in the off ofthis.
Just about Nine cents, almosttwo Nine cents last month.
So we are rolling in the dough.
Yeah, all right.

Speaker 5 (09:30):
We are rubbing them together.

Speaker 3 (09:32):
What do I owe you?
Let's see.
Let's see if we can jump intoit this week and see what we got
.
I got to minimize that and seeif we can bring up my man,
there's tariffs, there's China,there's tariffs, there's China,
there's ballistic missiles.
All right, I will let you do itshort.
So what we got today is we gotBill Mayer, everybody's favorite
liberal, going to sit down withTrump and, surprise, surprise,

(10:00):
he enjoyed it.
Then we got China spilling thetea on luxury brands, which is
absolutely dominating socialmedia right now, which is
hilarious.
Then we got congressionaltrading, which has been an
interesting conversation that'scome up a time or two.
Then the biggest thing we gotto finish up with this week is

(10:20):
POTUS in the White House withhis buddies bragging about how
much money they made during thedip, which is, oh, did they?
I haven't seen that one.
We'll get into it, all right.
So that's what we got today.
What do you want to start with?

Speaker 5 (10:37):
Well, I think Bill Maher is probably the most kind
of interesting one I read.
I read the article I.
I didn't watch the video.
Um, I'm not necessarily.
Bill Maher is one of those guysthat I can.
I can watch in short bursts, soare we, I think?
I think, kj, you have the video.

Speaker 3 (10:56):
Yeah, I do so.
Just to lead off, remember BillMaher.
I know I got a lot of slackabout it last week in the
comments about this, but BillMaher is the typical white
liberal that I try to warnagainst.
He is the white liberal thatwill sit back and say I'm for
you, I'm on your team and I'm onyour team.
I will turn around and biteyour head off and not think

(11:19):
twice about it.
You know it is with thissmugness.
So he is a liberal.
No, I just go ahead, go ahead,go ahead.

Speaker 5 (11:27):
The other thing that Bill Maher does is the same
thing that Stuart the Daily Show.

Speaker 3 (11:34):
Yeah, yeah, what's his name?
John Stewart.

Speaker 5 (11:37):
John Stewart.
They do kind of the same thing.
They will come out and theywill say this policy is bad,
that policy is bad, policy isbad, this is wrong, that's wrong
.
And then if you call them outon it, well, like, especially
john stewart, like he's, he'smade politics toxic for an
entire generation.

(11:57):
On the daily show 15 years hewas toxic.
And then he turns around andsays, well, look how toxic
everybody is.
And then when he's kind ofcalled out and he goes well, why
are you talking to me aboutpolitics?
I'm just a comedian.
And Bill Mark yeah, bill Mark,it's the.
Oh, I was just joking defenseLike hey, you're a piece of crap

(12:19):
.
I don't like you at all.
I think what you do sucks.
What do you mean it sucks?
I don't like you at all.
I think what you do sucks.
What do you mean it sucks?
Oh, no, dude, I was just, I wasjust joking.

Speaker 3 (12:28):
Yeah, this is part of my stick.
It's what I, it's what you know.
I just do it for the show.
Oh really, OK, cool.

Speaker 5 (12:34):
And they don't.
And that's the problem is whenyou do it for a show.
But what you do is toxic.
It doesn't matter if it's ashow or not, it's toxic to begin
with.
So when Bill Maher has been a,shall we say, an avid Trump
critic for the past decade, it'sinteresting that he went to the

(12:54):
White House to have a dinnerand you remember it was the
morning.
Joe, joe Scarborough and hiswife, they did the same thing
when Trump was first, or was heelected or inaugurated?
But they went down andeverybody on the left was
freaking out like, oh, how doyou?
You're going to kiss the ring.
And you know, there's a pointwhere Bill Maher says something

(13:16):
like, look, I was, maybe it'stime to bury the hatchet.
And you just wonder OK, burythe hatchet until you, your
writers, write another Trumpjoke next week.
So?
But here's the differencebetween what Bill Maher publicly
versus privately.

Speaker 3 (13:34):
All right.
So let's, let's see if I canget it shared.
I'm cute, so I'm telling youman, those, those, those
liberals are, they are somethingelse.
All right, I am in the wrongsetting.
I'm so upset.
I'm in the wrong damn setting.
All right, well, you keep doingit.
Yeah, here we go.
I got you, let's go, let's getit going.

(13:56):
All right, boom, boom, boom.
Are we sharing?
There we go.

Speaker 2 (14:01):
He didn't get mad.
He's much more self-aware thanhe lets on in public.
Look, I get it.
It doesn't matter who he is ata private dinner with a comedian
, it matters who he is on theworld stage.
I'm just taking it as apositive that this person exists
, because everything I've evernot liked about him was, I swear

(14:22):
to God, absent, at least onthis night with this guy.
Bob Kidrock told me the nightbefore.
He said if you want to get aword in edgewise, you're going
to have to cut him off.
He'll just go on.
Not at all.
I've had so many conversationswith prominent people who are
much less connected, people whodon't look you in the eye,

(14:42):
people who don't really listenbecause they just want to get to
their next thing, people whoseresponse to things you say just
doesn't track like what.
None of that was him, and hemostly steered the conversation
to.
What do you think about this?
I know your mind is blown.
So is mine mind.

(15:10):
There were so many moments whenI hit him with a joke or
contradicted something and noproblem.
At dinner he was asking meabout the nuclear situation in
Iran in a very genuine hey, Ithink you're a smart guy, I want
your opinion, sort of way, andI said, well, obviously you're
privy to things about it.

(15:30):
I'm not, but for what it'sworth, I thought the Obama deal
was worth letting play outbecause we made Iran destroy 98%
of the uranium and they were 15years away from a bomb.
And then I said to him but wegot rid of that, you got rid of
that.
He didn't get mad or call me aleft-wing lunatic.

Speaker 3 (15:51):
He took it in.
So, all right, are we back?
Yeah, we're back, all right.
So let me stop sharing that.
There we go.
So that was the gist of theconversation.
I cut it off a little short.

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He goes on to say that he madejokes with Trump and he, he made
jokes with Trump and he didn'tfeel like if he was sitting in a
room with Biden or Obama, hecan make those same jokes.
And therein lies the danger,right Of your typical
prototypical white liberal,right, they, when, when Biden
was in office, he could do nowrong with Bill Maher.
When Obama was in office, hewas all about diversity and you
know, this is post-racistsociety and any black person

(16:31):
that thinks the racism is thisnow is foolish.
And all this stuff.
Now, all of a sudden, you know,now, all of a sudden, trump's
the guy, who's who's the mostapproachable and, you know,
completely contradictory,whereas he wouldn't feel
comfortable with obama and bidenand it's just a bunch of it's
more liberal bullshit.

(16:52):
Right, and excuse my crassness,I tend not to get too animated
over these kinds of things, butwhen I see stuff like this, it
plays with me on an emotionallevel, right, right, it plays.
It's a tool, it's a it's.
It's an attack on theintellectual side of everyone
who's trying to be rationalabout it.

(17:13):
Right, like you know, good, andgot that gum wheel Right that
Trump didn't ask you a damnthing about or would value your
opinion.
He doesn't even listen to theopinions of the people in this
cabinet.
So him asking you, I get it.
It's a stroke of ego, right?
If I was sitting there andTrump asked me or asked you hey

(17:34):
man, what do you think about thenuclear situation in Iran?
Right, and you gave an opinion.
Do you honestly feel like Trumpis going to sit back and be like
man, I never thought about that, that's a great opinion.
Soon, as I get to work tomorrow, we're going to look into that.
Or will he just nod and smileand say, hey man, that's a great
opinion, and go on to the nexttopic?
You know what I'm saying.

(17:56):
I don't.
I have an issue.
No, I get your cynicism.
I have an issue with those guys, because mayor now is saying oh
well, you know, I talked allthis trash about him and I'm as
liberal as can be.
And if I say Trump's a good guyand he's a good guy, maybe we
had it all wrong this whole time.

(18:16):
I just don't buy it, man, andthat's why I don't trust white
liberals.
Hell, I don't trust liberals,period.
But I definitely, definitelydon't trust white liberals
because they turn aflop so damnfast you can't decide which way
is up.

Speaker 5 (18:27):
Well and that's one of the things I've talked to you
about for a long time is one ofthe problems with the left is
they're driven by emotion.
Yeah, absolutely.
You hear Trump talk about howyears ago he and Whoopi Goldberg
and some of the other hosts onthe View were good bird and some

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of the other hosts on the viewwere good, uh, joe j uh, joy
behar, and like they got along.
He'd been on the show, theylaughed, they liked each other.
And then suddenly he's runningfor president, uh, on the
republican ticket, and hebecomes persona non grata and he
becomes the evil person thatnobody can uh respect and and
all that stuff.
And it's an emotional thing.
Right Now, bill Maher yeah,again, he can say that Trump is

(19:15):
engaging in all this stuff.
So one of the things that Ifound when you talk to people
about certain people, right, andthis is this is like you go
back to Stephen Covey and you goto the highly successful people
, the seven habits and all thatstuff.
Yeah, some of the things arenaturally inborn, right.

(19:38):
Certain leaders have a way ofdoing things.
I've heard things about BillClinton.
Like Bill Clinton, I knowpeople who just hated Bill
Clinton, who believe that helegitimately was a rapist, and
personally I do.
I think that there were, fromall the information out there,

(19:59):
oh no, I mean between PaulaJones and Roderick and all those
.
I think it's fair to say thathe was a rapist.
That said, I know people thatbelieve that in the moment met
Bill Clinton and came away goinghe is the.
He is the most engaging guyI've ever met.
Like when I was talking to himhe was there with me, he was, he

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was in my boat and there'ssomething about certain
personalities that they're ableto do that.
I think that's where TonyRobbins has made so much money
and because he's such anengaging guy.
But he does it in a way thathe's in on you.
Joe Rogan is the same way.

(20:42):
You, joe Rogan is the same way.
I can ask a question and JoeRogan, if you ever watch his
podcast, he asks questionswithout really asking questions.
He'll kind of prime the pump alittle bit and then the person
he's talking to just goes andyou'll hear Joe actively
listening.
He'll give feedback, he'll askfollow-up questions and it's not

(21:04):
like Joe Rogan went to schoolto learn the art of
communication.
He's a natural communicator,he's a stand up comedian, he's
he's figure stuff.
So for Trump to do that and Ithink the disingenuous part more
than anything from our is thata he'll be bashing Trump next
week like nothing happened, likehe didn't have the dinner with

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him and b.
For him to say that the trumpthat he was with um and
everything he didn't like about,about trump, isn't there, tells
me something else.
It tells me that it's not aboutthe person, it's about what he
believes the policy should be.
And you say, well, trump, well,trump is a or Obama or Biden or

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Bush or whoever.
And you say, well, they're ahorrible person because I don't
agree with their politics.
That's where a lot of thediscourse in this country has
gone.
It's not that, and especiallyfrom the left, and I'm not
saying the people on the right,alex Jones, some of those guys,
yes, but I really think for themost part in general, and know
if that's listening, he's goingto say that's not true at all.

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But for the most part, if youdisagree with somebody on the
right, they'll say I don't agreewith you.
Here's what my perception is,here's what I think my
understanding, the facts are.
And somebody from the left willsay I disagree with you, you're
wrong and you're evil, becauseyou don't believe the same way I
do, and so I don't know.

(22:31):
I think it's nice to hear billmaher say that.
I just I think it's I, I don'tknow what.
I don't take it for a lotbecause, again, unless bill
maher's monologues change, um, Ithink late night comedy is
about getting viewership, it's.
There's not a big differencebetween bill maher and the other

(22:52):
late night guys than the, thesports yakkers.
Steven a smith says the mostinsane things and he's making
what?
10 million dollars a yearBecause he comes up with the
dumbest thing.
I mean really Rory McIlroy.
He wins the Masters.
I could see Stephen A Smithcoming out and saying, well,

(23:15):
yeah, that's great that Rory won, but he's just lucky that Tiger
had a hurt ankle, because ifTiger had 49, tiger's still the
best player in the world andTiger would have won if he was
healthy.
That's a lot of ifs.
But he will say that you knowhe just says things, that you go
what, or you know there's noway that, whatever it is, it

(23:35):
doesn't matter.
The Dodgers aren't going to winthe.
World Series because they lostyesterday 16 to nothing.
Yeah, it was one game.
But he'll go off and he'll sayhow the Dodgers I'm making this
up, he didn't Say it, but youknow, say things like that and
that's kind of how Mara thesecomedians, these Late night guys
are none of them are there To,and rightfully so they're there

(23:56):
to entertain.
I just Don't find them veryentertaining.
But I don't.
I mean, who is it on Fox News?
Got filled.
I think he's got the highestrated evening show.
He beats all of them.
I don't watch that.
Rightfully so they're there toentertain.
Hold on, I don't watch that.
I mean, who is it on Fox News?

(24:18):
Gutfeld, I think he's got thehighest rated.

Speaker 7 (24:20):
Whoever that guy is, sounds really smart, he beats
all of them.

Speaker 5 (24:24):
I don't watch that.
They're there to entertain.
Hold on.
I'm holding on.
I mean, who's been on?

Speaker 3 (24:32):
I've got to find out what that guy is, whoever that
guy is sounds really funny.

Speaker 5 (24:37):
Late night guys are.
None of them are there toentertain.
They're there to entertain.

Speaker 3 (24:44):
I even got an open window, all right.
So weird're we're?
We're all right.
So all of our live streams juststarted playing, yeah, at the
same time.
So our, our YouTube stream andour Facebook stream all were
playing on this, this one feed,on the same feed as our live
feed.
So you just kind of heard ourecho chamber from YouTube and

(25:07):
Facebook come back.
All right, sorry about that,man, I got it fixed.
It was a little bit of atechnical glitch, but we are
back in business.

Speaker 5 (25:14):
I'll tell you that guy's voice, though I really
like that guy's voice.
We should have him on sometime.

Speaker 3 (25:20):
I know right.
Well, if we can stop gettingcursed out on TikTok, that'd be
great.
I love it All right.
So, yeah, man, I think BillMaher I'm good with Bill Maher,
I want to get into the fun stuff.
Man, that dude, I just, I justI'm glad you showed me that
video, because that just that,just further, you know, cements

(25:40):
my theory about white liberals.
Man, I just I cannot trust him.
I will trust a person who willtell me how they feel and where
they stand, and I will beappreciative of it.
Whether it's for me or againstme, I can appreciate that.
But what I cannot stand is ajoker who will smile in my face,
pat me on the back and then, assoon as I turn around, use that

(26:02):
same other hand to stab me inmy back and I just do.

Speaker 5 (26:06):
You think black liberals do the same thing
though?
Absolutely, absolutely, and Iagree.
Like I watch some of the video,or you know the clips from
MSNBC and you have some of these.
Who's the guy with the big afro, ellie Ely, something like that

(26:27):
yeah, I mean he's yeah go ahead.

Speaker 3 (26:33):
I, I like.
I like ely because he put inthe work right.
So he, he put in the work andhe has the knowledge base, as
opposed to a guy like Bill Mayer.
Bill Mayer ain't researchedshit a day in his life.
Everything he spits out issomething that some you know
intern in the writer's room wasput together, Some smoke in the

(26:53):
writer's room was put together.
He goes out and spits it out.
Where you got a guy like Ely?
Ely's written what I want tosay 12 books by now.
I think it's somewhere aroundthat 10, 12 books.
He's got two decades ofresearch in academia.
He's still a sitting professor.
So I'm more willing to takewhat he says at face level over

(27:18):
a guy like Mayor any day, right,Because at the end of the day,
resumes matter, right?
I mean we're in the world ofmeritocracy, right?
So if we were to stack resumes,you know Ely's resume would
crush Mayer's any day, and twiceon Sunday.

Speaker 5 (27:35):
So what if it's a white liberal that has a better
resume than is it?
Ely, Is that how you say hisname?

Speaker 3 (27:42):
I believe it is pronounced Ely.
I know who you're talking about.

Speaker 5 (27:46):
Yeah, so I'm just curious, you know, because it
comes down to a lot ofperception, right?

Speaker 3 (27:57):
Yeah, it's not.
It's not a white or black thing, it's a credibility thing,
right?
Like you know what?
What I found is the more, themore research, the more.
The more research person does,or the more knowledge a person
does looking into an issue, theytend to have, you know, a
better view, right?
They don't flip-flop, right?
So, like, even on theconservative side, like you, you
got guys like I'll give.

(28:17):
I'll give you an exampleshapiro, right?
What's his name?
Ben shapiro yarmul, who likesto spit out all this crazy stuff
.
As asinine as he is, he isconsistent with being wrong,
based off of the research thathe's searched.
I may not agree with him, but Ican appreciate his approach, no
matter how flawed it is,because it's from one side.

(28:39):
He's become a master atpresenting it in a way to where
it benefits his, his theory orhis rationale.
Right, and that that comes withknowing your subject.
That comes with knowing yoursubject matter, right.
The more you know it, the moreyou can manipulate the facts to

(29:00):
benefit your story, and thatworks on both sides.
You know liberal andconservative to benefit your
story, and that works on bothsides.
You know liberal andconservative.
So, um, yeah, man, but you get aguy like you, get a guy like
mayor who will come out andhe'll champion, like I told you,
like the guys that did thepicnic you know everybody that
was at the picnic I mean, excuseme, the protest last week.
I call them picnics because hell, all they did was go out there

(29:21):
and celebrate and, and you know,it reminded me of the, it
reminded me of the 1960s era,right, where you would get these
, these hippies, to get out andthey'll do these music festivals
to change the world and feedthe hungry and all this other
stuff, right, and they'll partyand do drugs and and listen to
music for an entire weekend.
Meanwhile, the entire city'shomeless population is getting

(29:44):
worse and nobody passed out asandwich the entire weekend.
Meanwhile, the entire city'shomeless population is getting
worse and nobody passed out asandwich the entire weekend.
The problem is right there.
You can put action to it rightthere.
But it's more important thatpeople see that we're protesting
.
It's more important that peopleknow that we're out here
instead of attacking andaddressing the real issue.

Speaker 5 (30:04):
I said I saw something like that.
Yeah, I saw something like that.
A couple years ago a group ofconservatives a group of
conservatives went intobaltimore to help clean up a
neighborhood.
Like they got trucks and theywere raking and scooping and
they were actually doing workand and the mayor or the
councilman or whatever came outwas like how dare they come into

(30:26):
our neighborhood, how dare theydo this to put on a show?
And these guys are like we'rejust here to help.
We don't.

Speaker 3 (30:32):
We didn't bring a single camera or a cell phone
they literally were going to putin the work.
But again, that's what.
But that's the fallacy in allof it.
Right, people would rather, andthat's that, I think.
On a.
On a more macro level, that'swhat.
But that's the fallacy in allof it.
Right, people would rather, andthat's that's, I think, on a on
a more macro level, that's theproblem with government, right,
that's the.
That's why we got all theseyahoos in Congress.
It's more fun to talk about theproblem, because if we fix the

(30:56):
problem, then I have nothingelse to argue about.
You know, it's my own jobsecurity if I talk about it but
not do nothing about it.
Right, security if I talk aboutit but not do nothing about it.
Right, and you'll see that inboth chambers of Congress, both
sides of the aisle, you got abunch of people who love to be
in front of the camera talkingabout the issue instead of
actually being in the chamberworking on the compromise to fix

(31:19):
the damn issue.
And I guess that's whatfrustrates me the most out of
how America works.
Right, like, we got a millionand one people who like to talk
about the issue, but you gotmaybe 10 people who are willing
to go and actually do the work.
All right, at the end of theday, let's fix it and I fix it.

(31:40):
What the hell are you talkingabout?
We didn't come here to work.
We're not here to here to.
We're here to put on the showand get paid which, by the way,
leads into a great segment, ifyou're ready, unless you got
something else to talk aboutwell, I, I know what you're
going to go with and I'm finewith that.

Speaker 5 (31:55):
But that's where I look at it and I say it's a.
It's a problem on two fronts.
One if you or I wanted to runfor Congress we've said this
several times we don't have themoney, we don't have the backing
.
If somebody came out and said,hey, chaplain, I'm going to back
, you're retiring, there's anopen seat, I want you to run.

(32:16):
So now, a, do I go run?
And B am I beholden to thatbacker who says I want you to
run because I've got somecertain things that I want to
push?
Now, if I believe in thosethings, ok, fine.
But the other part of that isand this is, I believe, one of

(32:37):
the very first things we talkedabout on the first episode.
We've talked about this a lotof times the federal government
all the way down, and then youget to the state that the higher
you get in the federalgovernment, the less they want
to fix anything, because if youfix it, you lose power.
Like, if you get everything inthis country, if you get all the
laws where they are clear,everybody understands them,

(32:59):
they're fair to everybody, andif they break the law, then this
is exactly what will happen.
Blah, blah, blah.
But if you were able to go inand have a criminal code that
the federal level, and say hereare the rules and everybody says
, okay, we know the rules, wedon't need to keep changing the
rules, you wouldn't need theSenate, you wouldn't need the
house.
You know, if you had a balancedbudget amendment and said it

(33:23):
has to be a balanced budget andyou have to do it, you and I
have talked about this All yougot to do is put something that
says if you don't have abalanced budget amendment on
time, you are disqualified fromholding office and never being
elected again.
We both know there'd be abalanced budget, absolutely, but
they don't.
And so it goes into what we'reabout to talk about and why I've

(33:43):
said for a long time and I'mnot the only one the 28th
Amendment should be thatCongress shall pass no law from
which they are exempt, that thepublic has to follow, whatever
the wording is.
You have people right nowbecause we're going into the
trading right.
You have people that have beendoing and this is a long isn't,

(34:05):
and this isn't a Republican orDemocrat side thing, this is a.
If you or I did this.
I've got a buddy who is the CEOof a bio company, right.
And if I called him up and said, hey, can you give me a heads
up, I said, hey, can you give mea heads up?

(34:26):
Just shoot me a text with asmiley face if you have
something that's coming in thepipeline.
And if you don't right now, ifyou could just send me a smiley
face at some point, so just sendme other icons, but when you
have something ready to go, sendme a smiley face, right.
And then I went and invested.
I would be.

(34:46):
I would be charged with insidertrading.
He would be charged withinsider trading.
Um, martha stewart, who didless than that, went to jail for
insider trading.
But you have congress peoplewho are in these meetings where
they are discussing veryspecific things like what
pharmaceutical companies aregoing to be able to produce, the

(35:09):
COVID literally, literallymaking trades from their phone
while they're in the meetingyeah, and so and I don't and
again, I don't care if that's Ithink it was Marjorie Taylor
Greene that was kind of bustedfor doing it right but it goes
from herall the what From her all the
way again, from her all the wayto Pelosi and everybody in
between.
You know, there's just, there'sno, there's no way that it's

(35:36):
fair for the American people tobe charged with some of the
things that these laws are.
And then Congress should goyeah, but we're in Congress,
we're in Congress, we just.
And if well, then what do youdo?
Well, if you get elected toCongress, you put in a blind
trust period and you can't makeany trades for the time you're

(35:56):
in office.
Pretty simple.

Speaker 3 (35:58):
Well, if you do that, then what's the purpose of
serving?
I didn't come here to serve thepeople.
I came here to get rich If Ican't get paid then what's the
point?
Of being here.
You know what, though?
You bring up an interestingpoint with Marjorie, for, as
aloof as she is, god bless hersoul, she's not a dummy.

(36:19):
She may have just cracked thecode on finally getting the
insider trading bill on congresspassed right, because she was
so, so blatantly out about itand then you had.
So there's a 45 day right incongress.

(36:39):
So when they make, when theymake a trade um, I can't
remember what threshold is, butwhen they make a trade, they
have up to 45 days to disclosethose trades Right, which and we
know how the current news cyclespins after after a week or
whatever people forget about it.
So Congress men and women tendto wait up until day 40 and and

(37:05):
beyond to release their tradesbecause by then nobody cares,
right?
But marjorie god bless her soul, she's been consistent whenever
she makes a trade within a dayor two, it is listed, no matter
where it is.
But the problem that marjorieruns into is when you, when you
make those kinds of trades andyou're sitting in the oversight

(37:26):
committee, right, and peoplelook at the time that you've
made those trades and theycompare it to the time where
you're sitting in committee andthey can they can see that
you're actually in the committeemeeting making trades while
you're in the meeting.
That tends to be a problem,right?
So that's why she's in so muchhot water this week, but OK,

(37:50):
this goes back to Trump andHillary.

Speaker 5 (37:54):
We've talked about this Trump and Hillary in 15,
when Hillary was saying DonaldTrump didn't pay taxes.
Donald Trump hires accountantsso that he can pay as little in
taxes as he possibly can.
And Donald.
Trump's response was absolutely,of course.
Why wouldn't I?

(38:16):
If you want to be mad, be madat the system.
Be mad at the system thatyou've been a senator in for the
past six or however many years.
Be mad at your husband, who isthe president for eight years
and he didn't push for the taxcode.
Now, simple fix.
Like Marjorie Taylor Greene ifshe was sly as a fox or Ted Cruz

(38:39):
or anybody that actually wantedto change things here's what I
would do if I was one of them.
I would say, okay, I'm in there, I have the information.
I just made $100,000 on thesetrades whatever the number is
right.
I invested $10,000 and I made$100,000 in a matter of four

(39:01):
hours.
What I would do is I would turnaround and say, hey, look at
what I did.
I traded this.
I had the information.
You guys didn't.
I did so.
What I did is I took $10,000.
Now in taxes, I've got to pay.
So I took that little bit outfor the IRS.
So I've taken what I'veactually made $85,000 net and
I've donated it to the soupkitchen and wherever right.

(39:25):
So I've donated that moneybecause I want to make the point
that anybody that's in Congresscan do this and they can
manipulate the system and I'mshowing you how they manipulate
the system.
So that's what I've done andwith that $85,000 donation, I
also have this bill to make thatillegal for all members of

(39:48):
Congress.
And until this bill passes, Iam going to continue to do this
and I am going to continue todonate money to causes, and you
know what I mean.
Like I could see some.

Speaker 3 (40:03):
And that's why you'll never.

Speaker 5 (40:04):
That's for DHS.
That's why, because, because,because the average person would
rather have that eighty fivethousand dollar payout and
actually do the right thing andrepresents the American people.

Speaker 3 (40:18):
Let's watch, let's see.

Speaker 6 (40:19):
Just hours before the president announced his 90 day
tariff pause, he posted this onTruth Social, saying this is a
great time to buy, and he signedhis initials DJT.
His initials DJT Now.
His official announcement latersparked a market surge, but one

(40:43):
of the president's toppolitical rivals, the Democratic
Senator Adam Schiff ofCalifornia, is now demanding an
investigation.
The question is, who knew whatthe president was going to do?
And did people around thepresident trade stock knowing
the incredible gyration themarket was about to go through?
All right Now, as it relates tocongressional stock trading,
that has been the center ofdebate for years.

(41:03):
At least half a dozen billshave been introduced to ban or
restrict members of Congressfrom playing in the market
buying and selling stocks reallybut nothing has become law.
Right now, legislators aregoverned by the Stock Act of
2012 that requires members ofCongress to report any trades
worth more than $1,000 within 45days.
Only one congressperson hasreported trades since President

(41:26):
Trump's tariff announcement onApril 2nd, eight days ago.
That is the Georgia RepublicanCongresswoman, marjorie Taylor
Greene.
She has been disclosing tradesbasically within two to three
days, despite the 45-day periodallowing to report trading.
Now, in terms of total tradingvolume, the congresswoman came
in at just over a milliondollars, putting her well behind
the New Jersey Democrat, joshGottheimer, who slid the way,

(41:49):
and, according to stock trackerQuiver, quantitative this trade
had totaled some $75 million in2024.
By the way, democrat NancyPelosi was second, just shy of
$40 million Now from acquiredpublic filings.
Marjorie Taylor Greene made 19trades in the two days after
April 2nd.
All were purchases between$1,000 and $15,000.

(42:14):
The congresswoman purchasingstock in major tech companies
like Amazon, dell and Apple.
She also invested in Lululemon,ups, fedex.
Stocks that have gained themost for green include
Restoration Hardware, lambResearch and Dell.
Stocks that have declinedinclude Nike and Lululemon.

Speaker 5 (42:35):
That was interesting because I'd be curious.
They didn't say what heroverall plus or negative was,
because the three best lookedvery similar to the three.
Negative plus 13 plus 10 plus 8.
And negative was minus 10 minus12 minus 6.
So yeah, either.
So, a, is she really takingadvantage of insider information

(42:58):
or, b, is she just not verygood with the insider
information to make money wellthe.

Speaker 3 (43:04):
it went on to say that her net worth has since
she's been in Congress.
She came in at about sevenhundred thousand dollars for net
worth and now she's she'spushing close to twenty eight
mil.
So she's doing all right.
She's well behind the pace ofPelosi, though she's got a lot
of work.
She's not doing that.

Speaker 5 (43:23):
So part of the problem with that, though, is
and I'm not saying that'sinaccurate I don't know what her
numbers are, but I know thesame thing got reported for AOC,
like she came in and she hadall the students dead and she
was broke, and she got electedin and now she's worth twenty
five million dollars, and shepushed back and said I'm not
worth twenty five milliondollars.

(43:43):
That's crazy, right?
So that's the other side.
I don't know what the numbersactually are, but it doesn't
really matter.
What matters is you have theopportunity to use insider
information.
If you're in those, I think thewindow should almost be
opposite.

(44:04):
The 45-day rule should be thatCongress cannot buy or sell any
stocks in which it's beendiscussed in committee, any
committee, any bill, anythingfor 45 days after.
So, if she's in there, anycongressperson a congresswoman X
is sitting in there and they'retalking about the importing of

(44:30):
champagne from France, right,and there's going to be a new
tariff?
Well, ok, cool.
So what are you going to do?
Are you going to short it andsay, hey, I think that's going
to make it really expensive, soI need to sell my stock in
French Champagne Limited.
Or or am I going to have themoney.
Hey, I should buy it becausethat's going to make more scarce
money.
It should be the opposite.
Now it should be.

(44:50):
I have to wait 45 days before Ican do it.
But we've seen what they sayhalf a dozen bills.
It's the same thing as peoplewho say, oh yeah, there should
be term limits, but then whenthere's a term limit introduced
I think Ted Cruz has introduceda term limit bill every year
since he's been in Congress.

Speaker 3 (45:09):
No, it wouldn't be Ted Cruz.
That joke is.
He's one of the biggest.
Oh, no, no.

Speaker 5 (45:13):
Oh no, absolutely.
Ted Cruz has pushed for termlimits.
You can go check.

Speaker 3 (45:17):
I am definitely going to look at that, all right, so
I'm going to look Hold on, herewe go.
We got a couple more, so let'sget to it, all right?
Oh, this is a continuation ofwhat we were talking about, but
now it just puts, puts into, Iguess, better clarification of
how well Congress is doingcompared to the private sector.

Speaker 5 (45:36):
Oh my goodness, I'm sure it's a little bit better.

Speaker 1 (45:46):
It's funny, just to tell you, look at how many
members of Congress outperformedhim, and not by five percent,
not by six or seven or ten, by40, 50, 60, 70, up to 149 annual
returns.
He's been doing this for 60years.
He's never had a hundred.

Speaker 3 (46:04):
That's David Rouser on top.
Then you got Debbie Schultz,roger Williams, morgan McGarvey,
larry Buxton, pete Sessions,susan Collins, david Kustoff,
nancy Pelosi.
So the color scheme talks aboutwhat party they are.
So you got Pelosi and Wagner.
It's both parties.

(46:24):
I was surprised.
You see, my boy, dan crenshaw,is on the list.

Speaker 5 (46:30):
I that surprised me, um, and then nobody on there
surprises me, madame schiffbeing on there wouldn't surprise
me nobody.
There's not a single person incongress, and again.
So here's part of the problem Ihave with it.
As a libertarian, I look at itand say, if it's not against the

(46:52):
law, they should like they cando it, like okay, cool.
Now, just because something'slegal doesn't mean it's moral
and ethical, though it doesn'tmake it right.
And that's where I say, on themoral and ethical side, it
should be changed.
But until you change it likeokay.
But they're obviously like howembarrassed would you be, kj, if

(47:17):
you were able to turn a $5,000investment into $25,000 year
over year for five years?
Like great, you want to give mea hard time.
So I went from $5,000 to$25,000.
And now, remember, now I caninvest that $25,000.

(47:39):
So it's exponential, so that$25,000 now is 25, now is 125 in
year two.
Let's see, you start with five.
You go to 25 after a year, 125after two years, 625 after three

(48:03):
years, 18.
So 160 goes to 1.8 million,goes to 7 million.
So in five years, just by going, just by making the five times,
and I understand, look it's,it's not that easy.
The highest one was only 140,but that's I'm sure.
Cause I don't want somebodycalling me out and saying that's

(48:24):
not how taxes work.

Speaker 3 (48:25):
He's only got 149% ROI this year, so he's barely.
I mean, how can you expectpeople to eat man, when they're
making those numbers like that?
I feel for these congressmen,man All right.

Speaker 5 (48:38):
So, speaking of which , but 100, think about that.
149 return on investment.
That goes from 10,000 to 25,000.
That's 10,000, 150%, so you're10,000.
You get that 10 and another 5.
So you go from 10,000.
The numbers aren't that far offfrom what I just said.
150.

Speaker 3 (48:59):
They say that Washington is an expensive place
to live.
Man, how do you expect thesecongressmen to survive, man?
I don't.
He's only getting like 20%.
Man, I feel bad for Congress.
Congress needs to have insidertrading.
I mean hell.
I'll give you a prime example.
Hold on, Before you get started.
Go ahead, let's see this.
Let's see, let's see what hehas to say about this.

Speaker 1 (49:23):
It's not just because what he has to say about this.

Speaker 3 (49:26):
So that was POTUS bragging about how Charles made
$2.5 billion on the curve andthen another executive made $900

(49:50):
million on the curve in theWhite House.
So that kind of lends into thewhole conversation of insider
trading right, and I'll give youso much so that congress is now
saying, okay, we need to askwas this done by design?

Speaker 5 (50:09):
because um right, they think it's.
Yeah, they think it's been.
They think trump isspecifically taking the stock
market to readjust the 10-yearbond rate.
It's, it's a little bit of 10hat stuff.
Yeah, yeah, well.

Speaker 3 (50:24):
I'm glad you brought that up, because I want you to
listen to this, to this thecomments from the.
The so Congress called Trump'sprimary trade adviser to a
hearing to explain what's goingon, and I want you to.
I want you to listen to hisresponse before.

Speaker 5 (50:43):
Before you do that, I just want to make one point
about the clip you just saidthough Okay, so Charles Schwab
and that other investor, right,we need to know, because when
you say somebody like becauseyou see it in the New York Times
, you see it on Drudge right,elon lost $40 billion in the

(51:04):
last month.
He lost $40 billion because ofstock right, yeah, but the month
before that he was up $60billion over the last two months
, which makes sense.

Speaker 3 (51:18):
But that was between the two days of.
That was the two days betweenthe curve right.

Speaker 5 (51:23):
But Charles Schwab.
But we don't know what CharlesSchwab see.
Here's the thing.
Let's say Charles Schwab as afund manager.
Charles Schwab is a major fundmanager.
They have major funds.
It's like the Guggenheim Groupthat owns the Dodgers, right?
I think they control, like some.
I mean, it's some ridiculousamount of money, right.
But if they come in and theGuggenheim group is coming in,

(51:45):
the head of the Guggenheim groupand Trump is over these other
people.
He says, hey, it's not theirname?
Obviously hey.
Guggenheim, how much did youmake?
Two point five billionyesterday on this Right?
And he's like, yeah, and he'snot going to follow up and say,
hey, before that, how much whenit went down, how much did you
lose?
And he's going, well, yeah, Imean I lost $3 billion since

(52:07):
Friday, but hey, but you'reright, I got $2.5 yesterday.
So there's context, kind ofmatters, and I'm not justifying
anybody.
Here's the other thing.
This is one of the reallyinteresting things that I don't
think people really understandthe way the financial markets
are.
They deal with things withalgorithms and their algorithms

(52:29):
are based on, like to the pointwhere it's, nanoseconds.

Speaker 3 (52:33):
Wait, wait, before you get to that, hold on.
You're about to go way offcourse.
Hold on.
I'm glad you brought that up.
Hold tight, because I want youto hear it out of his own mouth,
okay.

Speaker 7 (52:42):
Is this market manipulation?
No, why not?
If it was a plan, if it wasalways the plan, how is this not
market manipulation?
It's not market manipulation,sir well then, what is it?
Because it sure is not astrategy.
We're trying to reset theglobal trade system.
What is?

(53:03):
that done?
How have you?
How have you achieved any ofthat?
But to enact enormous harm onthe American people, which was
our concern from the verybeginning.
Tariffs are a tool.
It can be used in theappropriate way to protect US
jobs and small businesses, butthat's not what this does.

Speaker 3 (53:27):
So I know it was a small clip from here, but that
part I thought stuck out.
And the reason why I thought itstuck out is because here you
have the top trade advisorliterally telling you no, you
know, no, we're not marketmanipulated, we're not doing
that.

Speaker 5 (53:44):
What's his position?
Like who?
Who is that?
I don't.
I don't know who he is.
What's his?

Speaker 3 (53:48):
I had his title written down.
I gotta go back and look it up.
I I don't have it in my notes,but and I?

Speaker 5 (53:54):
I'm not trying to get technical, I just like I don't
know who that is I don't knowwhat, and because context.
Again, I have a hard time withany clip because it's context,
so I don't't know what was goingon, but go ahead, yeah, but so
he's the I can't remember hisname, but he's the top trade
advisor for the administration.

Speaker 3 (54:12):
So they called him in .
After all the terror tariffs onterror thing.
They called him in.
It's like, hey, what is goingon?
Because from now on, looking in, we got a lot of congressmen
making money, we got a lot ofcorporations making money, but
the American people's 401ks aretanking Like this looks like
market manipulation, this looksillegal.
And he's like, oh no, it's notillegal.

(54:33):
But then he turns around andsays, well, did you guys plan it
?
And he's like, no, we didn'tplan it, but we're trying to
reset the global economy.
So it's a little contradictoryin its telling.
I think he kind of put his footin his mouth by saying, no, we
didn't plan it, but we plannedit.
And then you know, before yougo you're going to say, oh well,

(54:57):
yeah, that just you know, inisolation that doesn't make much
sense, right?
And like I've been, like I'vebeen saying, yeah, what I'm
saying, like I've been saying,since this administration has,
has taken hold, it's justanother piece of the puzzle
which makes a really big, reallybig pot that says, hey, man,
this is getting real messed upreally quick um but go ahead go

Speaker 5 (55:18):
ahead so there's a few things.
One, you're talking aboutsomebody who's using semantics,
and they're talking about thisis not market manipulation,
because market manipulation is avery specific thing.
Again, we talked about tradingspaces last week and when they
went in and they tried to cornerthe market by having insider
trading, that's manipulating themarket, right?
When you're talking aboutresetting the global economy,

(55:41):
for some ways Greg Easterbrookok, who is going to be on in two
weeks, our good friend greg hetalks, yeah, he talks about it
in one of his most recentcolumns on substack.
He's like why are we resettingone of the most, uh, positive
performing economies in theworld?
And it goes back to the everyyou've got to sell, you've got
to free people.
Oh, we is so bad, right, uh?

(56:03):
Because to freak people.
Oh, we is so bad, right, uh,because congress and washington
loves to to say, hey,everything's burning and you
know, the world's going to helland I'm here to fix it.
I'm here to fix it.
So, but as far as, as far aswhat he's doing, um, the and I
understand your point like the401k people, they're losing
money, all that.

(56:24):
But there's also a verydifferent thing that's going on
there.
Most 401ks, uh, are long-term alot of bonds, a lot of long-term
treasury bonds, things likethat.
The treasury market is not asvolatile as the stock market,
right?
So the stock market goes up anddown.
People see that in their 401ksand they start freaking out, uh,

(56:47):
but realistically, if you lookat the numbers, like for the
past eight, nine years, it'sjust gone like this it's been
consistently up and it's gone up, and there have been big ups
and big downs, but consistentlythe trend has been up.
So now that it's gone down alittle bit, people are freaking
out.
Is that the media freaking out,going oh see, this is anti-Trump

(57:08):
.
If this had been, if this hadhappened in the middle of the
Biden administration, they would.
They've been like hey, you knowthis is fluctuations, and I get
it.
But because that that sells,you know, if it bleeds, it
leaves, and in this case, yourstock market at year 401k is
bleeding, so we're jumping in,and so I think that now I don't

(57:33):
know who that congressman is.
I'm guessing, though, that whenthere were five or 10 percent
dips during the Bidenadministration, he was not
yelling about marketmanipulation, and, trust me,
there probably were someRepublicans who were yelling
just like that.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (57:48):
But no man.
I mean, if it was a typicalmarket anomaly, fine, sure,
because the market ebbs andflows, right.
But what you have is you have apresident who purposely what it
seems like purposely went outshouting that I'm doing tariffs,
tariffs, tariffs, tariffs.
Get ready Right.
And everybody, everybody youknow, with the knowledge to

(58:12):
listen, planned accordingly,right.
They made their sellouts RightWhile the market was still high.
Then the market tanked, right.
And then, hours before, hoursbefore POTUS was to make the
announcement that he's changinghis mind on tariffs, he sends
out a tweet hey, now's a greattime to invest, right.
Again, for those who know, thesignals took advantage Right.

(58:35):
Hey, they bought Right.
So I hear you.
But when we talk about people's401ks, it's always at the
expense of the people.
About people's 401ks, it'salways at the expense of the
people.
Hey, it's going to be fine inthe long run, you're fine.
But while the people arewaiting, you have corporations
and our representatives makinginstant gains at a substantial
rate, right?

(58:55):
So how then does that look?
How can you justify that?
How can you reasonably say,okay, okay, hey, this was not
intentional, because everybody,everybody from this level up is
is making gains substantially,but everybody below that level.
Oh don't worry, yours is gonnacome later, it's gonna rebound
later.
You just hold tight the peoplewho need it the most are.

Speaker 5 (59:19):
Here's how.
Here's how it's justified.
Right?
Again, I'm defending it onlyalong the lines of legal and
illegal, not whether it's moralor not, right?
Okay, I'm not just saying themorality, I am not arguing for
the morality of this.
That said, if you are a savvyinvestor, you've heard for two

(59:43):
years that the market is due foran adjustment, that a bubble is
coming.
This is not a new thing, right?
So then when Trump gets in andhe says we are going to enact
these tariffs and it's going tostart on April 1st or whatever
the date was, you had people whoare savvy, who are listening to

(01:00:05):
this going.
You know that's going to hurtthe market.
So if it's going to start onApril 1st or April 2nd, whatever
day it is, I think I shouldsell on April 1st and then, as
different things get announced,they go oh yeah, it's going to

(01:00:26):
go down.
Oh, it's good, I better sellnow.
I considered it, but I'm I'mlong-term investor.
I just have a few stocks therethere and I'm just kind of like
I've been bitten by trying toplay the up and downs before.
I've lost by trying to do theup and down thing.
So I'm just going to leave itthere.
It's going to be a day trade.
Yeah, day trading is not forthe faint of heart.
Yeah, especially, yeah, Don'ttrade on margin, by the way,

(01:00:47):
don't ever trade on margin.
And I had it.
And here's the thing, I'm nottalking out of my butt.
I had a Series 7 license.
I had a license to trade stocksback in the day before you know
, 20 odd.
Well, now, almost 30 years ago.
So, and you say, well, thesignals?
Well, you're right, the signalsare there.
So if somebody is smart andthey have the or I don't even

(01:01:11):
want to say smart, savvy, theunderstanding, and then Trump
sends out a tweet that saysnow's a good time, well, he's
saying look, here's the dip.
Now, if he came out and he saidto specific people, if he had
sent that text not on truth, butinstead had sent an email to

(01:01:32):
his 10 biggest donors, then yeah, you could legitimately say we
should probably do animpeachment investigation on
this right.
But because he did it out inthe open and this isn't just a
Trump thing, this is politiciansas a whole they do things out

(01:01:54):
in the open.
And, as you said, if you know,you know, but middle America
doesn't know.
Middle America is not sittingthere going.
Hey, what did the president saytoday about stocks?
What did?
What did what?
What was the committee doing?
The committee did aninvestigation, like what's going

(01:02:27):
on, which is going to go fromhere to human trials and is a
potential game changer when itcomes to cancer.
Like they might get it ondrudge, but by the time it's on
drudge, all the stocks havealready been moved.
Yeah, people, this is what I wasgoing to say earlier these big
corporations that trade, whenyou're talking the New York

(01:02:49):
stock exchange, the big onesFidelity, schwab they have
invested billions of dollars incable underlying fiber optic
cables, going from London to NewYork because of the two biggest
financial, and then Hong Konggoing from London to New York
because of the two biggestfinancial, and then Hong Kong,
to save a matter of fractions ofa second.

(01:03:11):
Because if the computers andthe algorithm say this is going
to go up by half a point in thefirst second of trading, of
trading having that advantage ofa quarter of a second when
you're trading, a billiondollars worth of stocks is worth
$200 million and if you havethe information, it's going to

(01:03:34):
go, it's going to tick down byhalf a point, a thousandth of a
second before the other, becauseit's all automatic.
This isn't back in the day fromtrading stocks spaces where
they were doing this and going.
We're going to corner themarket.
This is the computer saying Isee this coming.

(01:03:55):
I know what my algorithm tellsme you should buy this and it
clicks automatically.
That's how it's done, like thevast majority of it.
So Trump doing that and saying,hey, it's a good time to buy.
If it's before the markets,then there's no advantage to
anybody as far as the big stuffgo.

(01:04:15):
But the small people, yeah, ifyou're a small nickel and dime
investor, even if you're a guy,that's like, oh, I'm a day
trader and so, wow, I saw thatTrump said it's a good time to
buy.
Yeah, okay, I'm ready to go,I'm going to invest in.
Yeah, okay, I'm ready to go,I'm going to invest in.

(01:04:36):
I've seen this stock that wentdown um 15 over last wednesday,
thursday and friday, so I'mready to go, I'm ready to click,
and when the market opens, bythe time you press that button,
everything's already been done.
That is going to do everythingthat you can any advantage you
had.
You can't click the button it'sit's.
You remember back in the daytrying to call in to get to the
radio station?
I will tell you right now, theradio stations on those,

(01:04:59):
probably 90% of the time theywere picking who.
I used to work in radio.
I had some insight.
They knew who.
Maybe not the small stuff, butthe big, hey, it's a trip.
Right, there was one.
They were doing it in Salt Lake.
They were doing a trip forspring break and they were going

(01:05:19):
to do this drawing.
I knew the girl who won.
I knew it was pick three daysbecause she had been flirting
with the DJ for a week beforethat and she was actually dating
a friend of mine and my buddygoes watch this, watch what's
going to happen.
She's going to win because shewas also trying to break through
.
Yeah, she was.
She was trying to become anartist.

(01:05:39):
So now here's the radio station.
Look who won.
Oh, it's this 28 year oldvoluptuous brunette who, whoa?
No, oh my, she won this trip.
Wow, that was waycongratulations.
So this happens throughout.
You know the power is the beat.
So it's kind of.

(01:06:04):
I look at it and I go is itfair?
Well, technically, yes,technically it's fair.
But that's like saying,technically, I can go try out
for the NBA right now.
Technically, the NBA, an NBAteam, could sign me to a

(01:06:29):
contract.
Sure, technically, are theygoing to?
Of course Could they Sure, andI'm not talking about one of
those.
Hey, this eight-year-old hascancer.
We're going to sign him for theday and make him an honorary
Hawks player for the day.
I'm talking about a legitimate.
They could sign me.
You could theoretically signanybody as an NBA team, as long

(01:06:53):
as you've done the paperwork.
There's a joke that every oncein a while you'll see it on
Twitter or whatever it's likefor the 23rd year in a row, I
have declared for the NBA draftand have gone undrafted, and I
am a free agent.
It's an old joke, but it'sstill funny every time I see it.
So there's certain things thatjust so.

(01:07:14):
When people do these things andmanipulate the market, I'm not
a fan of it.
I think the system shouldchange.
And until the system changes,that's my frustration, because
as a conservative and as alibertarian, I say it's legal,

(01:07:38):
as somebody who also has anemotional base and as a
Christian at heart, and says,hey, manipulating the system,
whether legal or not, morallywrong.
So I'm kind of stuck either way.
So I go look, this is stupid.
Like this is stupid, and itdoesn't.

(01:07:59):
I wonder, like the guy whoyelled in that clip, the
representative who was yellingat him.
This is manipulation.
I really am curious what hisstocks are.
Now.
Here's the other side of thecoin and I will readily admit
this.
The other side of the coin andI will readily admit this.
The other side of the coin isthis when, when joe biden was

(01:08:21):
getting ready to run um in 20 Ibelieve it was as obama's vice
president, it might have evenbeen 2016 and he decided not to
run or something.
But they were doing Joe Biden'sfinancials after it was some
point after he become VP and hehadn't done his book deal, and

(01:08:44):
it said his net worth wasbecause you know the net worth
they always had between this andthat, and his net worth was
between like three hundred 500000.
And part of me went what'swrong with you?
You've been in congress for 40years.
You're still only worth 300 to500 000.

Speaker 3 (01:09:02):
That's just what you reported, man.

Speaker 5 (01:09:05):
It's well, no, because.
But part of that is you get inmore trouble, like,
realistically, you get in moretrouble for miss.
Like, realistically, you get inmore trouble for misreporting,
like Marjorie Taylor Greene.
Think about it like thisMarjorie Taylor Greene would get
in more trouble formisreporting what she made than
she ever will for making it.
Yeah, like, if at the end ofthe year Marjorie Taylor Greene

(01:09:28):
is up $5 million, people go ohman, she made $5 million.
Oh gosh, dang it.
The system's not fair.
But if she only reported thatshe made $475,000 or instead of
about $5 million, $4.5 million,now there's going to be a
congressional inquest, and nowthere's going to be potential

(01:09:50):
censure, and now there's goingto be all these things that you
know that come into play.
She can lose her seat onleadership.
She can lose congressional theprestige, whatever prestige.
Oh, is she even in congress?
Is she in congress anymore?
Yes, she's in, she.
I thought she had a job in thewhite house now no, she's in
congress.

Speaker 3 (01:10:08):
She's the part of the um, she's a part of the uh
trades committee.

Speaker 5 (01:10:12):
Oh, okay.
So she's on the committee thattalks about the legality of
trades and she's making trades,sitting there listening to the
information.

Speaker 3 (01:10:22):
Yes.

Speaker 5 (01:10:22):
I've got to tell you.

Speaker 3 (01:10:24):
That's why she's in trouble.

Speaker 5 (01:10:27):
For what?
Again, that's the problem.
The cojones are incredible.
To do that, I got it.
You got to give her props forjust in terms of sheer audacity.

Speaker 3 (01:10:42):
It's just the fact that she just does not care.
This is who I am.
This is what I do.

Speaker 5 (01:10:50):
If it's legal.

Speaker 3 (01:10:53):
My biggest thing is not that they can do it.
My biggest thing with potusagain is he is a walking
contradiction.
Right, the whole drain theswamp thing, the whole drain the
swamp moniker.
I'm gonna go in and I'm takingadvantage of the tax code and
I'm gonna show you how to do itand we're finally gonna put a
stop to it.
Because we're finally going toput a stop to it, because we're
going to drain the swamp.
And at every turn, not only ishe not draining the swamp, it

(01:11:17):
seems like he's trying to buildriverboats in the swamp and I'm
like Well, it depends on whatyour definition of draining the
swamp is, though I agree withyou.

Speaker 5 (01:11:28):
I agree with you.

Speaker 3 (01:11:30):
What was the overarching?
Because the definitionshouldn't change based off of
how he's performing.
When he went in there, he saidhey, there's a lot of corruption
, there's a lot of things thatare legal, that should be legal,
there's a lot of bureaucracy.
I'm going in there because,remember, the whole thing was
first hey, release your taxes.
Oh, I can't, because I'm underaudit for like six years.
And then he went in and said,oh well, you know what?

(01:11:52):
No, what was the thing with um?
They asked him something Ican't remember what it was.
Ask him something aboutfinancial.
Oh yeah, when hillary was onhim, about the taxes, right,
about taking advantage of thetaxes, and he was like, well,
you knew about it.
You know why didn't you stop?
Oh, yeah, right, which is fine.
But this is this is the secondopportunity to stop it, and not

(01:12:16):
only has he not stopped it, heseemed to become more efficient
at manipulating it.

Speaker 5 (01:12:23):
So it's kind of but that's where I say, when you
talk about draining the swamp, Iwill tell you right now there
are a lot of people who are veryhappy with what he's done
because they look at drainingthe swamp.
There are a lot of people whoare very happy with what he's
done because they look atDraymond and Wampus.
Here's why, when you talk aboutyou've gone from whatever the
federal employee a hundredpercent of federal employees,
and you've cut that from ahundred percent of federal

(01:12:44):
employees to 90% federalemployees, cutting that 10%
there are a lot of people wholook at that and go that's
exactly what I wanted.
Like, I cannot tell you howmany people on Twitter that you
see stuff as like, there are alot of people who look at that
and go that's exactly what Iwanted.
Like, I cannot tell you howmany people on Twitter that you
see stuff.
It's like 100,000 people havelost their federal jobs and

(01:13:05):
their responses.
It should be all of them.
Like, I voted for all of them,and so draining the swamp now.
And the other side of it is,though and this is where you and
I agree, and and our, our buddy, uh aj, agrees like the chart.
The problem is the wrong peopleare getting targeted and part
of the problem with that is thesystem.
So if you have a hundredthousand employees and you say
we want to cut 10 immediatelyand then another 10 through

(01:13:29):
through, what's the word whenthey just retire?
Gosh, dang it.
I hate getting old because Iforget words.
It's not attribution, it'ssomething else.
So, okay, so we're going toover the next four years,
because how many people retire?
We're just going to let themretire and we're not going to
hire new people.
But on top of it.

(01:13:50):
We're all attrition.
There you go.
So we're going to just let that10% go through natural
attrition.
We're just not going to rehire.
Okay, cool.
But now we're also going totake another 10% because we need
to reduce now.
And the problem is the way thesystem works.
It's first in, first out.
So if you're one of the youngguys who you got hired two years

(01:14:11):
ago because you were gung-ho,you're fresh out of college,
you've just completed a tour inthe military, you are somebody
that's there.
I want to make a change.
I want to fix Washington.
The bureaucracy is horrible.
Ha, you just got fired.
Instead of that crusty old15-year-old veteran who knows
all the ways to manipulate thesystem and you know, it's almost

(01:14:36):
like anything you could look atteachers.
The teachers unions are thereand you say, well, if we want to
fix the teachers, do you reallywant to get rid of that 15 year
old, 15 year veteran who justhates being there and is mean to
the kids and is really like I'mjust here Cause I've already

(01:14:58):
done my fifth, but you know I'mtenured.
Basically, I've got my 15 years, I've got my 401k.
I need to put in another if Iput another 10 years in because
they were selling us withteaching.
That's like one of the biggestmillionaires are teachers
Because they make their moneyand they stay in forever and
they reinvest.
Don't get me wrong, they're notscamming the system, but they
use the 401k and so they becomevery well to do when they retire

(01:15:23):
and it's a really good careerto do that.
But at the same time, who do Iwant teaching my kid?
If I could choose who'steaching my kid, I want somebody
who's been there for two tothree years.
They've got the one year.
That get your feet wet out ofthe second year.

(01:15:45):
They're still energetic.
They're still third year.
I can change these kids.
I remember those.
You remember those.
You remember those.
It was like Mrs Peterson hasbeen teaching English here at
Wasatch Junior High for 20 yearsand nobody likes her.
She's mean, she like, she goesthrough the book like disdains

(01:16:09):
all the students, disdains allthe students, um, just a person.
Now I understand as an adultit's very different, but that
was the perception as a kid.
But but then you had theseyounger people that came in.
You're like, oh, I really likethis teacher, I like mr
so-and-so, he's a good guy, hetries or she tries, and you know

(01:16:30):
my I go through that with mykids right now, like well, these
teachers.
And don't get me wrong, I thinkto a degree every teacher, no
matter how long they've beenthere, still wants to teach to a
degree and a lot of them getfrustrated with the system.
But when you're talking aboutdraining the swamp, you're
talking about resetting.
It's tough because you do havethe ingrained bureaucracy.

(01:16:53):
You have those people like tome and this will not be positive
.
A lot of people who areex-military will not like this
statement.
I think every contractor thatis hired for the Department of
Defense for a military job thatcan be done by a soldier should

(01:17:15):
be fired.
And I've got a good, we've gota good family friend that lives
right here.
He's in our ward, he is acontractor.
It would affect him and, yes, Iknow that would suck for him
and his family because he's aformer military and now he's got
a job as a contractor.
That said, his job can be doneby a soldier and it should be,

(01:17:35):
in my opinion, okay.
So now it's not going to be.
He's not going to get fired, soI don't have, he's not going to
know about this, but to me,like, like, realistically,
that's, that's how it should be.
The worst contractors that Iever dealt with in the military
were the ones that wereingrained Now in the military.

(01:17:55):
For those of you who have notserved, when you're in the
military you get moved.
You would do a permanent changeof station, generally every
three to five years.
Sometimes, if you're higher up,it's actually two years.
Commanders get changed aboutevery two years, right, and the
part of the reason is they don'twant you to get so ingrained in
one position that you becomestatic.

(01:18:15):
So, yes, it sucks for yourfamily, but part of it is you
have to move and you have to bemoving up or you move out, all
that stuff.
Right, and I dealt withcivilians that had been in the
same seat for 10, 12, or moreyears.
There is somebody right now atFort Eisenhower that has been

(01:18:36):
basically with the same unit fora decade and this person is
what would be called a juniorperson on the scale, but the
level of influence and the levelof power like actual power.
This person is, I believe, aGS7, which is not high at all.

(01:18:56):
That is very like everybody whocomes in is basically, unless
you're mopping the floor, you'rea GS5, right?
Yeah, it's nothing special.
She has her own parking spaceas a GS7 because she's been at
the unit for that long.
Now I know a lot of people sayshe does a really good job.
I have some doubts about thatbecause I've seen how it works

(01:19:22):
and some of the things thathappen.
I don't necessarily agree andI've brought it up, like I
brought it up with the SergeantMajor and say how does so-and-so
?
I don't get it.
How does so-and-so have thisposition still it?
How does so-and-so have thisposition still like this
position?
They've been in this positionfor this long.
The office is right next to thecommander and every like,

(01:19:44):
literally everything goesthrough this person.
Um, that that does her job.
And I'm trying to be very, very,very careful because I like
this person, I like thisindividual.
I don't like the job and Idon't like the position and some
of the things that happens fromthat person's position.

(01:20:06):
Okay, I disagree with how thatperson fundamentally deals with
soldiers and fundamentally doestheir job OK.
So I think if you're acontractor, just like somebody
who if you're a civil servant,maybe you need to move.

(01:20:28):
Maybe you shouldn't be in thesame position for however long
move.
Maybe you shouldn't be in thesame position for however long.
Maybe, if you live inWashington DC, you shouldn't be
allowed to be in your positionin Washington DC for more than I
don't know.
I'll be nice six years and thenyou've got to.
Yeah, so let's say it kind of is.

(01:20:51):
It kind of is, however, becausesomebody gets hired and they've
done the job and maybe they'regood at their job.
But I could see something wherelet's go with the easy one
Border Patrol, right, you gethired as an administrator.
You're not a Border Patrolagent, you're admin, right.
Ok, so you're in DC, you'redoing your job.
You get hired for six years Now.

(01:21:12):
So you're in DC, you're doingyour job, you get hired for six
years.
Now, after six years, well, youneed to go be admin in El Paso
or in Phoenix or in Helena,montana or Niagara, and you
could be there for six years andyou have to move because when
you get so ingrained and youhave to move because when you

(01:21:34):
get so ingrained, one of thecontractors I had one of the
civilians again like the personthey told me, and this was years
ago they said, hey, sergeantO'Neill, you need to get on
getting everybody a TS clearance.
And I went what do you mean?
And they said, well, everybodyin your unit needs a TS

(01:21:55):
clearance.
I said, well, wait, where'sthat coming from?
They said, oh, the commandersaid that.
I said, okay, but that's.
I need something, because whatyou do is you look at what's
called the MTO, and the MTOtells you everything you're
supposed to have in the unit,including clearances.
So you have these people andthis is the clearance they're
required to have.
So I was sitting there goingwell, no, that's, hold on by
regulation, this is what theyneed.

(01:22:16):
They said no, no, no, no, it'sa policy.
So, okay, send me the policyletter.
Well, after a few weeksmight've been a month I'd been
there for a month, and this isearly on E6.
I'm a staff sergeant and theysay hey, have you gotten any
work done on getting thesepeople that started the TS
clearances?
I was like, no, why not?

(01:22:37):
You haven't sent me the policymemo.
Oh well, you know it's coming.
Okay, well, as soon as I get it,I'll get on it as soon as you
send me something from thecolonel that gives me an order
that says you need to do this,I'm on it, as long as it's legal
and lawful.
You know what I never got inthree years?

(01:22:59):
I never got that order.
They now they ended up changingthe mto and the mto takes a lot
to change.
But the mto changed threemonths before I left and
everybody on there now wasrequired a ts S.
Guess what I did for the nextthree months?
I worked on getting everybodyto TS, and that's fine.
But these guys, I would say andthis was not an isolated

(01:23:20):
incident they would say you needto do this.
I said, well, wait a minute,here's what the regulation says.
Well, no, you need to do this.
I said this is the regulation,yeah, but we're saying this.
And I said you guys, Iappreciate that that's what you
think, but that's not what theregulation says and I am going
to follow the regulation.

(01:23:40):
Never got in trouble for it,because the other thing I would
do and it's sneaky is I'd sayokay, tell you what.
Send me that in the email.
Yeah.
And the minute it had to be putdown, cys.
Never, hey, we're just tellingyou, I'm just giving you a heads
up.
We need to get this done, putit in the email.

(01:24:02):
Never, not once in my career,did somebody send me an email
with a questionable orderbecause they knew Yep, All right
, hold tight.
Here we go Six minutes forChina.

Speaker 4 (01:24:14):
Yes, some say.
As long as they're the same,made in China, the bag can never
be luxury.
However, in fact, more than 80%of the luxury bags in the world
are made in China, but thoseluxury brands just won't
acknowledge that.
They take almost finished bagsfrom China factories back to

(01:24:35):
their own factories and just dothe repackaging and logo
installing something like that.
That way, the bags will appearat their boutiques as made in
Italy or made in France.
You know those sophisticatedEuropean countries which make
you feel mysterious, royal andthus luxury.

(01:24:58):
Now close your eyes.
Let's just do a little veryeasy experiment in your head.
Okay, imagine that you have anHermes bag and suddenly the
label on it changed from Made inFrance into Made in China,
while everything else, likeleathers, zippers and hardware,

(01:25:22):
remain the same.
Do you suddenly feel that yourbag is not as luxury as before?
If you do, that means you havebeen misled and poisoned by the
market campaign of those luxurybrands for too long.
Welcome to the real world.
Now you see those bags are madein China by our intelligent and

(01:25:44):
diligent Chinese artisans.
Let's not be poisoned andmisled by the market campaign
any longer and be a real person.
Buy a bag from us, from ourfactory in China.
See the real world for yourself.

Speaker 3 (01:26:00):
Ah, so I posted that because there's a growing trend.
I don't know if you've seen itor not.
Tiktok is big on it.
It's called China spilling thetea right and because of the
tariffs that China and the US,the tariff order China and the
US has you have a lot, of, a lotof retailers in China saying

(01:26:22):
well, hold on, man, listen, youdon't have to go through your
manufacturers anymore and paythe tariff, just come directly
to us, it's the same bag, us,it's the same bag.
This is just one of the videos,and I found it.
I found so much enjoyment fromwatching that video because it's
almost like the truth has beenthere all along, but nobody

(01:26:45):
wanted to acknowledge it.
Everything is made from China.
Matter of fact, I saw one TikTokcreator and he was sitting in
his living room and he said,quick, I want to show you around
.
I want to show you around myhouse.
Nothing in here is made fromAmerica.
Now you look around your house.

(01:27:06):
How many things you got madefrom China.
Who do you think the tariff waris really going to hurt?
And then he just left it atthat, right, and I was like, and
I was like, oh OK, I gotnothing.

(01:27:27):
I got nothing because I'd say,conservatively, 85 percent of my
house is probably made at somepoint in China.
So I just found it funny, man,and this trend is hilarious.
What are your thoughts?

Speaker 5 (01:27:37):
A couple of things.
Anything that's electronic, ourcomputers that we're using
right now, watch microphonephone made in China.
If you didn't know that, Idon't know what to help.
I don't, I don't know how tohelp you, but it's kind of like
if I poured you a bowl of RiceKrispies and then I poured you a

(01:28:00):
bowl of Walmart brand crispyrice and then fed them to you,
could you tell the difference?
Fed them to you, could you tellthe difference?
No, so my kids, now some stufftastes a little bit different,
right, like generic, whatever.
Because I buy Sam's Club soda,because it's a dollar for a two

(01:28:23):
liter bottle and I get caffeinefree, I get two.
I get either the zero sugarSam's Club soda or the caffeine
free diet Cause if I'm drinkingsomething late at night.
But can you tell the difference?
Not not really, like the dietCoke.
I can kind of tell diet Coke,but I can't tell the difference

(01:28:43):
between diet Coke.
I can tell diet Coke and Cokezero, but I can't tell the
difference between Coke zero andSam's club zero.
Tell the difference betweenCoke Zero and Sam's Club Zero.
So if you didn't realize thatnot everything goes through
China, but like 80% sure, likeif you go out, if you're in
Kuwait, and you go down to themarket and you buy a luxury

(01:29:08):
watch.
Now, if you pay a good penny,you're probably getting a pretty
good watch.
If you pay $20 for a Rolex,you're getting a $20 knockoff
Rolex watch.
But yeah, I just I do thinkit's kind of funny.
And China, but at the same timeChina has been backdooring

(01:29:28):
tariffs for a long time.
So you know, china will buycompanies that manufacture auto
parts in Mexico and then shipsthem to the US, right?
So I get, I get the idea of thetariffs, I don't mind the idea
of the tariffs, but thepracticality.
Again, for me, my biggestproblem with tariffs has always

(01:29:52):
and this is not a new thing Ihave said if you're going to
have free trade, have free trade, zero tariffs.
And if you're not going to havefree trade, it's very simple
the tariffs on you are whateveryou put on us.
So if China has a 50% tariff onAmerican cars, we should have a

(01:30:13):
50% tariff on Chinese cars.
And now I understand there arecertain things.
The Japanese did this thing wayback when, when they didn't
want things to come into theircountry and they'd say, hey,
this produce is coming in.
We don't want Californialettuce, because that will want
California lettuce and becausethat will compete with the

(01:30:34):
cabbage that we have in Japan.
So the lettuce would come inand basically the inspectors
would just wait and wait andwait and after three to seven
days they'd go and everything'sturned rotten and they went oh,
we can't accept this into ourcountry.
It's no good.
It was.
There was actually a name forit was like japanese inspection.

(01:30:55):
It was actually calledsomething.
I don't know if that's exactly,but but that was the thing.
And so you know kind of theknee-jerk reaction on a lot of
this.
Um, I, I saw an article thatsaid this company in middle
America is going out of businessbecause of the Trump tariff on

(01:31:16):
whatever it was right, carpet orsomething, furniture, I think
it was furniture they're goingout of business.
And then it was pointed outthat the tariffs that would
affect this furniture companyhadn't been enacted yet and that
that company had beenstruggling for a couple of years
.
And so it's really easy to thenblame the boogeyman and say, oh

(01:31:39):
, trump's tariffs, the boogeymangot me, or you know, the
economy got you.
And it's tough.
And you know I, there's a lotof stuff that happens in the
economy.
It's it's funny.
There's a lot of stuff thathappens in the economy.
It's funny.
You've seen that progressivecommercial where the little kid
there he says what is theeconomy anyway?
And all four of the adults arelike well, I mean it's this.

(01:32:05):
Well, jamie, what do you think?
Well, it's so the economy.
You see, the economy is.
None of them can put any wordsto it, right.
And so the average person, whenyou're talking about the
economy, the average person,what the economy means is my
Pringles can.
I used to be able to buy for $1each.
Now they're $2.25.

(01:32:27):
Five years later.
The economy sucks.
That's what it means.
Um, I can't buy.
I saw somebody post on x thatthe older people who think that
you can go buy a used car that'sless than 10 years old and less
than a hundred thousand milesfor under ten thousand, you guys

(01:32:48):
just don't understand.
That's just not real anymore.
That's impossible.
I was.
I was like huh, that's curious.
I went on carscom.
I put within 100 mile radius,under 100,000 miles, under
10,000.
I had like 308 returns.
Now, were they great cars?
No, most of them were probablyseven, eight, nine years old.

(01:33:10):
A lot of them were about 80 to90,000 or 90 to 100, you know,
under 100,000, but right there.
But I was like they exist Now.

(01:33:30):
Also, where you are in, whereverprobably has a different supply
and demand than in Augusta.
Yeah, like, I can probably findthat in the South where cars
are a little more available andpricing.
Here is, you know, my house,yeah, yeah, like my house here
in Augusta.
We got a pretty good price onit and you know.
But it's, it's a, it's a bighouse.
It's 400 and we bought it forabout $420,000.

(01:33:53):
If we were to sell it today, Ithink we could probably come up
$100,000 ahead.
However, you pick up our houseand put it in the middle of Salt
Lake City, our house is a $1.3million house and, depending on
where in Salt Lake, it could beanywhere from 700,000 to

(01:34:15):
probably close to 2 million,depending on where it is.
So the economy is not this onething.
It's not just the stock market,it's not just the tariffs, it's
not just what you pay, it's notthe tax.
I read another reallyinteresting one, and I know
we're kind of going off a littlebit.
No, you're good, I'm going offright, but one of the things I

(01:34:37):
thought was really interestingwas that where does inflation
come from?
And I hadn't really thoughtabout that Because you think,
well, inflation comes fromcompanies raising their prices
and supply and demand.
No, inflation comes from oneplace, and that's it how much
money the government prints,because inflation is based on

(01:34:59):
how much money is available tothe public.
And that's it.
And once I saw that and I readit, I was like we're idiots.
We're sitting here goinginflation, first of all
inflation.
Oh my gosh, what are thesecompanies doing with inflation?

(01:35:19):
Ah, but realistically, likeTrump saying I'm going to stop
inflation.
And last month, I believe,inflation was like negative, it
was like two percent negative,which, because we've been so
high negative in this case it'sactually probably pretty good.
And and the media was going ohwell, you know we.
I guess we kind of have to givetrump some credit for this.

(01:35:41):
All trump had to say is don'tprint money this month and take
out the normal amount, likemoney is always being taken out
of circulation, not just in bank.
And the other thing was andagain I bring it up again Greg
Easterbrook.
He had an article about this,fiat Gosh, maybe we should just

(01:36:04):
have Greg on every week and Idon't have to quote him all the
time.
But he was talking about if youhave a country like ours, that
is $35 trillion, what does itreally mean?
Like?
Does it mean anything?
Are we ever going to pay itback?
Do we need to?
It's $35 trillion able to havefood on their table and buy

(01:36:30):
their TVs and buy a house at adecent interest rate and they
don't feel like they're beingbent over and, and you know,
really screwed from behind.
You know no bohica going on.
Um, most people are probablypretty fine with it, but, like,
if the if the federal governmentwas ever serious, like about
about the deficit and trulywanted to change anything, the

(01:36:54):
first thing would be torefinance the debt from the 2.
It was either 2.3 or 2.7%.
That we pay to the federal,that the government pays to the
Federal Reserve on that To theFed, which is insane Private
bank.

Speaker 3 (01:37:08):
Insane it's insane Private bank Go ahead.
Yeah, I have my own issues withthe Fed, but that is insane.

Speaker 5 (01:37:14):
If you wanted to fix, the first thing you would do is
you would create an actual Bankof the United States and you
would.
You would have the actual Bankof the United States take over
all the debt and basically leavethe Fed high and dry.
And basically leave the Fedhigh and dry and the Federal
Bank of the United States couldvery easily say okay, well,

(01:37:36):
we're still going to guaranteeyour 20-year bonds.
It's just the Fed's not goingto guarantee we will.
The government will do that andjust write it and make it as
you want.
To make it interesting, make ita point like by law that the
government cannot charge moreinterest rate than it costs to

(01:37:58):
make the money, if that makessense.
So, out of $35 trillion, youneed $100 billion to make new
coins to keep the mints running,to pay.
It's probably more than that.
Let's say no, 100 billion isprobably a good number, right?
That's a lot of money toreprint and especially with how

(01:38:22):
we're going to electronic forthe most part right.
So you could do it, and I'msure part of the problem is if
you did it, if you were thepresident of the United States
and said this is what we'regoing to do?
First of all, economists wouldfreak out and say no, no, no,

(01:38:44):
you can't do it, you'd be dead.
And the second would be you'dbe shot by I don't know, a
representative who may or maynot have been paid by the
federal reserve.

Speaker 3 (01:38:59):
It was a lone wolf.
He acted alone.

Speaker 5 (01:39:02):
Alone.
Yeah, someday we shouldprobably play the whole video or
just go on, go on YouTube.
What is it Search for?
How the Fed the origins of theFederal Reserve Bank, I believe,
is what it is.
Yeah, something like that.
It's a really, reallyinteresting and that's where we

(01:39:22):
talked about earlier.
When you're like MarjorieTaylor Greene, hiding out of the
open.
Yeah, this is not Illuminatistuff, this is not secret.
It's right there If you want toknow.

Speaker 3 (01:39:36):
It's right there.

Speaker 5 (01:39:37):
Right, and that now tin hat for a moment.
Oh, here we go.
That's, that's why the publiceducation system has been
manipulated to stop kids fromthinking critically and instead
being able to produce.

(01:39:58):
There you go, you are able to.
You are able to do just enoughto work at Starbucks and learn a
job, and then just enough toget a job as a middle manager,
and then just enough to maybemanage a store or, if you're
really a go-getter, to get aloan to start your own store.
Yep, and we talked aboutearlier the stuff with Trump

(01:40:25):
posting.
And if you're smart, you know,right, that's the point.
Those people know, they knowthe right way to do these things
and they know how to make thismoney because, a if they're not
smart enough to do it themselves, they are in a position
generally to have people aroundthem that are smart enough or to

(01:40:46):
hire them.
And yeah, generational wealthabsolutely comes into play as
part of that and everything else, right.
I think it's hilarious, not ina funny way, but when somebody
wins the lottery and they'rebankrupt in five years and you
just go.
That tells you.

(01:41:07):
That tells you the level ofincompetence.
First of all, the lottery is atax on poor people.
Okay, so the Georgia lotteryhas put in over the years $2
billion into the Georgiaeducation system.
Oh, my God.
Yeah, that's just a tax.
That's all they've done For mewhen I play the lottery.

(01:41:31):
First of all, I will not playthe lottery unless it's over
like $200 million.
Secondly, when I play thelottery, I buy one ticket for $2
, because the odds of me winningare one in 440 million, says it
right on the back.
Now, if I buy two, that doesn'tmean I have now one in 220

(01:41:54):
million.
It means I have twice at one in440 million.
The odds have not changed inany significant way.
So if I buy 100 tickets, it'snot like now, oh, I'm all the
way up to one in 20 million.
No, it's still one in 440million.
The reason I buy the tickets isstrictly for entertainment.

(01:42:18):
You know why?
Because if it's $200 million, Ilike to daydream about what I
would do with $200 million, andit's fun.
Now, do I think I'm going towin the lottery?
No, of course not.
No, no chance at all.
And am I sitting praying thatI'm going to win the lottery?
No, not really, becauseremember you, remember Bruce

(01:42:39):
Almighty, and he just said yesto everybody, and everybody won
the lottery, and it madeeverybody's lottery ticket worth
$4.
Everybody won.
I didn't win anything, though.
So if you, if you manipulatethe system so that people don't
think and I saw a Substackarticle from a and, by the way,

(01:43:04):
substack, you want toself-educate?
Go to Substack.
It is probably the best placefor self-education that there is
right now, anywhere available.
Okay, but this assistantprofessor was talking about the
essential illiteracy of collegestudents and he said look, I've
talked to my other professors,this isn't just me.

(01:43:24):
These kids don't know how to.
They don't read books.
They don't read.
They don't read the assignmentsI give them.
They are unable to write andthey're unable to critically
think.
And he gave an example of abook he had assigned.
And they're unable tocritically think.
And he gave an example of abook he had assigned.
I actually added it to my listto read but I haven't got it yet

(01:43:45):
because you know it's delayed,the app I use, so I won't have
it for like four weeks.
But it was something like hey,describe this and why?
The underground man, you know,whatever the question was was a
college level question, right?
And he showed two examples ofthe writing and one of them was
just absolutely just dumb, liketo the point of at this is

(01:44:11):
college level misspelling basicwords and putting together a,
putting together a paragraphthat if you read the paragraph,
you thought, am, am I having astroke right now, because that
doesn't make any sense.
And he said or you get this,and it was clearly chat GPT.
Then you read it and you werelike, yeah, you're like, oh, no,

(01:44:33):
no, no, that is very AI-ish andyou can read both.
That is very AI-ish and you canread both.
So if you have and that'sprobably for a generation, a Gen
X like me that is probably themost frustrating thing that I

(01:44:54):
have with my kids.
My kids just had my 11-year-oldjust had spring break break.
I told her I would pay her tendollars for every book she read,
including scriptures, like, notlike, go read the bible and
I'll give you 10 books.
Go read one book.

(01:45:15):
Go read matthew and I'll giveyou 10 bucks.
Yeah, go read Book of Mormon,one chapter out of the book.
Go read 1 Nephi, I'll give you10 bucks and she read a grand
total of zero, zero, right.
She said, if you take me to thelibrary I'll get books I want,
and it's like I know the booksyou want.

(01:45:36):
You want to read Diary of aWimpy Kid, which is fine, but
that's not really a book, thatis not a chapter.
It's like taking you and saying, hey, well, I got this book.
What is it?
Well, it's Batman versusSuperman.
Let me see it.
And it's a graphic novel.
And you go technically it's abook, technically it's a novel,
but it's also mostly pictures.

(01:45:58):
And if you went through thatwhole thing like no you, you
want to go out and you read um,mouse, m, a, u S and you want to
describe to me why that is oneof the most influential, uh,
graphic novels, I'll give it.
In fact, I have it.
You want to tell me why, butshe couldn't, she wouldn't be

(01:46:19):
able to.
Mouse is a very, very highlevel.
Watchmen, the Watchmen, veryhigh level when you're talking
about challenging, right.
But if you're just going to goout and read Diary of a Woman,
no, and these kids, all the wayup to college, they don't read
books, they don't self-educate.
That gives me a high feeling.
And and for gen x, that's thefrustration.

(01:46:42):
You and I, we look at this andsay this is the most powerful
tool you could possibly imaginewhen we were growing up in the
80s.
This literally would have beenworth a billion dollars Easily

(01:47:02):
In my hand, a billion dollars,because it would have had the
computing power of everysupercomputer in the world, like
basically at every library.
And what do they use it?
For?
Tiktok.
And if you're watching this onTikTok, great Love you.
I hope you're giving us athumbs up and you really like it
.
But instead of scrolling to thenext one on TikTok, put your

(01:47:26):
phone down.
Go on to an app like LibbyL-I-B-B-Y.
Use your library card, downloada book and listen to an audio
book, read a book.
Go to your parents up in theirroom if they have books, and if
they don't have books, what'swrong with your parents?

(01:47:47):
Go to the library, findsomething.
Even so, kj, you and I, we didsomething when we were young
that these guys have no conceptof.
They had these things that cameout every single day that you
walked out your front door andthey were folded up on the

(01:48:11):
driveway.
They had a rubber bound aroundthem.
If it was raining, they were inplastic sleep and you would
take them out and you wouldunfold them and they'd get your
hands a little dirty and youcould read what happened that
day, especially locally, and youwould go wow, I'm actually

(01:48:31):
reading.
And it would increase yourability to your vocabulary, your
reading comprehension.
Kids today cannot read a storythis is what the professor was
saying Cannot read a story andunderstand the most basic things

(01:48:53):
beyond the broad stroke.
They don't know what the themeis, they can't what the
underlying purposes are.
They, they just don't't have it.
And that's probably the mostfrustrating thing about this is
the power of this.
And instead and if anybodywants to go, oh chapel, what did
you do?
I've averaged over the lastfive years, I've averaged around

(01:49:13):
75 books a year, a year on.

Speaker 3 (01:49:17):
You know what, though that gives me a point, because
I did the same.
I did something similar with mydaughter recently, my teenager
Black History Month.
I said, ok, hey, look, this isJanuary 20th.
I said, listen, you got theentire month.
I want you to pick one femalerevolutionary and I want you to
write a book report on thatrevolutionary, and it doesn't
have to be a formal book.

(01:49:37):
I said I want you to, I wantyou to read about them.
Revolutionary, and it doesn'thave to be a formal book report.
I said I want you to read aboutthem and I want you to write
your thoughts on why that personwas an important part of
history.
And I said you have until theend of the month.
And here's the thing I said ifyou write the book report and
you get it to me and it's notthe AI generator, it's your own
thoughts I will double yourallowance.
But if I don't get it Double itfor how long?

(01:50:00):
No, no, so this is for the nextmonth.
So she had the entire month ofFebruary.

Speaker 5 (01:50:05):
So her March 1st allowance for all of March.

Speaker 3 (01:50:08):
Yeah, so her March 1st allowance will be double.
But the gotcha gotcha is if youdon't submit a book report, you
don't get an allowance forMarch.
So I sat back and I waited,waited, waited.
You know, send out generalreminders.
Hey, one week passed, Dad.
I got three weeks left.
I got it.
I'm good, hey it's.
Valentine's Day.
Two weeks passed, you'rerunning out of time.

(01:50:31):
Yeah.
So February 27th I get a textmessage from my daughter.
She says oh my, my God, dad, Igot these.
I got these reports coming up.
I got this test.
I got to study for school.
Can I get an extension?
Yeah, can I get an extension?
Oh, you got that.
I said, but you had the entiremonth had.
You just went ahead and knockedit out.
I said you know what, I'm soconfident you're not going to do

(01:50:53):
it.
I'm going to withhold yourallowance.
I'm going to withhold yourallowance for another seven days
.
Going to withhold yourallowance for another seven days
.
So you have until March 7th.
If you do the book report, getit to me.
The entire week goes.
So March 7th, 10 PM, I get thisgenerated AI generated report.
I didn't even read it.
After the first two linesyou're like all right, cool,
this is chat GPT.
I got it.
You know what I mean.

(01:51:13):
So I hit her up and I saidlisten, you got two options.
You can tell me the truth nowand it might save your allowance
, or you can lie to me and thenyou won't get any allowance
Because I know she's.
I was like you know, I do thisfor a living.
I can.
You know I can spot when it'sfake pretty easily.
And she was like oh yeah, dad,I generate.
You know, I asked chat GPT towrite it and then I sent it to

(01:51:37):
you.
I said why would you do thatthat?
I said you had a whole month.
Now I said if this exercisewasn't about the report, um, so
much as it was about beingdisciplined and time management,
you know I'm saying you missedall the ancillary, auxiliary um
lessons that came about havingthis deadline and I said I'm

(01:51:58):
disappointed in you.
I said I'm gonna give you theallowance because you were
honest with me.
And then she ended up writingit anyway after the fact and
then come to find out sheactually she actually enjoyed it
, but it's just the point of it.
And then that brings me up likeas an instructor.
I'm kind of that's the kind of,that's the kind of instructors
we had growing up, right, likethey would do, like, hey, man,

(01:52:20):
put your books away.
This is going to be an exam,right?
I want you guys to write.
You know, tell me about thelesson we just learned about.
And you can't use any notes,you can't use any books.
And I wonder, I don't know,because everything's so
structured in the school system.
Now Can an instructor kind ofdo that right, say, hey look,
man, all right, I know we'resupposed to have a test on this,

(01:52:42):
but here's your test no phones,no books.
You got to the end of class towrite me a five-paragraph
summary on.
You know, whatever theGettysburg Address.
I want you to write everythingyou've learned about it this
month, and you can't use anynotes.
You can't use any.
And then let that be the test.

(01:53:03):
I think that will be somethinginteresting to see because it
would allow the kids to be ableto you know what I'm saying to
think on their feet.
And then for college, at thecollege level, I'm thinking like
if I was a college professor,one thing I would do is I would,
I would you know, be one ofthose.
I always look at myself likeone of those, just like.

(01:53:24):
All right, hey man, you guysthink you're pretty smart, right
?
Great, here's what we're goingto do.
You get no phones, no digitalassets.
Put everything away.
Here's pencil, here's paper.
All right, I want you to writeme.
You have you're in my class fortwo hours.
You have 90 minutes to write me.
You have, you're in my classfor two hours.
You have 90 minutes to write mea three page paper on the you

(01:53:45):
can pick.
You know I have five topics onthe board and you pick whichever
topic you want to write, rightand based off of, based off of
this.
This is how you're going to getgraded and that will be.
That will be the exam.
But I don't know if you can dothat anymore, because it it
allows too much free thinkingand I think school.
What is it like?
Can you do something like that?

Speaker 5 (01:54:05):
So this is my understanding and I'm trying to
go into the teacher question NowI spoke to.
I have I've had an interviewwith a public school eighth
grade that I think, if, if, that, if I want that job, I'm pretty
sure I'll be offered it.
That I think if I want that job, I'm pretty sure I'll be
offered it.
I've had an interview with aChristian academy here in

(01:54:25):
Augusta that I was worriedbecause Christian academy being
LDS not a lot of people thinktraditional Christians are like,
oh, lds, you're not evenChristian.
Which got past that, which wasgreat.
So I have an interview thisweek with whoever the next
person is, and we were talkingabout this, specifically about

(01:54:46):
the difference between teachingto the test and teaching to the
Socratic method.
If you don't know what theSocratic method is, the Socratic
method is, I'm going to giveyou the information, but you
have to put it together, youhave to figure it out.
I'm I'm asking you questions toget you where I want you to go,
but you have to go there.

(01:55:06):
I'm not telling you the answer.
Okay, and so this, this school,um, sounded like they were like
that's what we want, that's thephilosophy we have as well,
because as a private school.
They don't have to follow thesame federal and state mandates.
And we've talked about thisDepartment of Education.

(01:55:28):
That's one of the issues withDepartment of Education is you
have to do these things.
And I understand you say theDepartment of Education, look,
all they're doing is recordingthe test results, but there's
that paranoia at the state level.
Going well, we have to do it tothe state, we have to do it.
And maybe that's amisinterpretation, yeah, so.
So part of the other side of itis this there should be

(01:55:52):
standardized for certain things.
Math should be pretty standard,right, english not so much.
And part of so.
My son's high school as asophomore, all the ELA, english
Language Arts they all read thesame book.
They read Life of Pi.

(01:56:13):
When I was subbing, that's whatthey were reading.
And I said to him well, did youread the book?
He goes well, no, so how didyou?
Then I subbed, they watched, wewatched.
The sub was me pressing, playon the movie, and so I said so

(01:56:35):
when you had the test orwhatever, did you write about
what was in the book or what wasin the movie?
And he goes, well, we all wroteabout what was in the movie.
Oh, okay.
So even in English class, whereyou're supposed to be reading
the books, you're watchingmovies.
Now, movies have their place.

(01:56:57):
Don't get me wrong.
I think there I could come up.
I would love to do a, a historyby film for a high school class,
and what I mean by that?
Not not the history of film,where you'd be going over
citizen Kane and all that, but Iwould love to do a class where
it was history by film and,depending on what you started,

(01:57:17):
like, okay, how far, how farback do we want to go?
Let's you know, do we go allthe way back to Apocalypto, you
know, which is supposed to bearound the 11th or 12th history?
Do you go all the way back to,you know, christ and those
things?
Do you go back to the 10commandments?
But if you just went Americanhistory, if you just went

(01:57:39):
American history and you said weare going to teach history
through film, now, don't get mewrong, of course history and
film don't always go all thatwell together, right, you look
at, like the Patriots.
The Patriot was based on theBattle of Cowpens.
What happened at the Battle ofCowpens and what happened in the

(01:58:01):
Patriot are two very differentthings, and that's why the movie
says based on actual events.
Okay, but some of my favoritemovies are like that.
I love Glory.
Glory is one of my favoritemovies of all time.
It's wonderful.
I just finished a movie todaythat said it's called Judgment

(01:58:22):
at Nuremberg and it was based onsome of the Nuremberg trials.
Now I have not gone and lookedand said how real is this?
It's a courtroom movie.
That is just phenomenal.
The acting is wonderful.
It's got Spencer Tracy, it'sgot I'm blanking Judy Garland is
in it doing a German accent.
I didn't realize Judy Garlandcould actually act.

(01:58:44):
You know Burt Lancaster was aGerman, but they did it three
hours.
It's on an app called Canopy.
It's absolutely worth your time.
But something like that, likeare kids going to be more
engaged in history?
And then you would actuallytalk about world war ii.
You would talk about the causesof why hitler came to power.

(01:59:08):
What about?
How?
How did the people get caughtup?
Because that's what the basisof the story is these four
judges who are now being judgedby the tribunal after the war,
two years after the war.
Well, hey, you followed theGerman law, but what you did
caused, directly or indirectly,the death of six million people.

(01:59:31):
And at the very end, the onejudge who had been a top legal
guy.
He was one of the four on trial, he was the most repentant and
all that.
He was Burt Lancaster.
He asked the guy who was incharge of the tribunal who is
this little judge from Maine?
He had Spencer Tracy come in.
He asked him if he would think,because Spencer Tracy and the
other there are three judges andtwo of them found him guilty,

(01:59:52):
sentenced to life in prison.
Burt Lancaster asked him tocome in.
He comes in and he says I justwant to let you know, you need
to believe that I did not intendfor this, that I did not know
that it was going to lead to 6million deaths.
I need you to know that.
And that was never.
And Spencer Tracy character andof course you know this is what

(02:00:14):
really happened Spencer Tracy'scharacter said something like
this you didn't think it wouldend with 6 million dead Jews.
It was 6 million dead, but itstarted when you found the first
innocent person and sent themto death.
That's the end of the movie.

(02:00:35):
And that's the end of the movie.
He walks out, he goes down andhe goes out of the prison and it
was just.
It is.
I'm telling you, it is how thismovie is not on every list.
Wait, afi 100, I've gonethrough all those.
This is as good as any movie onthe AFI 100.

Speaker 3 (02:00:55):
Let me ask you did you see any parallels to today
in that movie?

Speaker 5 (02:01:05):
Let me ask you did you see any parallels to today
in that movie?
I was thinking about it as Iwas watching that movie, and the
problem is the hyperbole thathappens in the media today.
I think that when the defense,the defenses of this were

(02:01:26):
basically like we needed to dothis to help our country.
This is why we did these thingsis to our country needed to do
these things to survive.
That's where the that's wherethe parallel was was how many
people on the true believer ofMAGA say we have to do these

(02:01:47):
things because America will notsurvive if it doesn't.
And the rhetoric I can see asbeing similar.
The rhetoric I can see as beingsimilar.
The reason I stop at therhetoric is because I'm unaware
of anybody being sentenced todeath because they were saying

(02:02:11):
something against theadministration.
Now I know you'll say yet andthe first person that is killed
because they?
But that's part of the problem,right?
So when you say, when you havethese journalists and Jerry
Bayhart, those people, rosieO'Donnell, saying I'm going to
be thrown in jail if Trump'selected, you're not, but you're

(02:02:36):
not.

Speaker 3 (02:02:36):
What's the guy?
The Supreme Court just ruled9-0 To bring back and the
administration Is saying, no,we're not.
What's the guy?
What's the guy?
What's the guy?
The Supreme Court just rulednine zero to bring back and the
administration is saying, no,we're not doing it.
I think you're about to findthe first death.
I think I think we're prettyclose to getting the first death
because they haven't broughtthat guy back and you had this
coming out nine to nine to zero,saying hey, where's the college

(02:02:58):
?

Speaker 5 (02:02:59):
Did SCOTUS say that, I thought well, maybe we're
thinking of a different one,because there was another one
that said Khalil, somethingcould be, because the immigrants
no no, not him, this is theother dude, but the reason, the
danger.

Speaker 3 (02:03:13):
Let me go Google it real quick.

Speaker 5 (02:03:16):
Is this the one that he shouldn't have legally been
deported?
But then Venezuela.

Speaker 3 (02:03:23):
Yep got sent to Venezuela and then they were
like hey, the district judge waslike yo bring him back, and
they were like nah, we're notdoing that.

Speaker 5 (02:03:34):
So let me ask you this that being the case, if
Trump and the federal government, if the executive branch called
the executive branch in ElSalvador and I've said I'm a big
fan of what they've done in ElSalvador because El Salvador

(02:03:56):
truly was going to hell, elSalvador, because El Salvador
truly was going to hell right,it was the gangs and everything
else and they basically roundedthem all up, threw them in a
prison and said do what you wantin there, make your own little
countries in there, but we areshutting you out of everything
else.
You do not belong in society.
You are stuck here.
Now.
I don't know if he's at thatprison, I don't know far enough.

(02:04:17):
I don't know if I know.
But if the administration saidto El Salvador, hey, we need
this guy back, the question is,if El Salvador said no, because
we don't want to, how far do yougo?
How far do you go to get it?

Speaker 3 (02:04:36):
back.
I mean, we are definitelyriding down that slippery slope
and that's the danger of havinghistory by movies, because
you'll have things like thishappen.
And you know, like you said,the final scene was extremely
pointed, where the judge waslike yo, I didn't mean for this
to happen, I didn't mean forthis to happen.
And then, you know, the lastline is what sticks out the most

(02:05:00):
.
You did it when you let thefirst one slide, so you put
these things into motion andthen what happened is you'll
have you'll have these, these,if we were to go that route,
right, history by moves, right.
You'll have people like CarolineLeavitt, who is the Trump press
secretary, getting up in frontof a national media saying dumb

(02:05:21):
stuff like oh well, you know, ifit wasn't for us, the French
wouldn't be free, not knowingand not recognizing, even after
she was corrected, notrecognizing had it not been for
the French, there would be noAmerica.
You know what I'm saying?
So when a reporter, and thenwhen a reporter pushes back and
says hey, well, yeah, that'strue to some degree, I mean

(02:05:42):
technically, sure, I guess youcould say that, but had it not
been for the French, we wouldn'thave an America and she was
like no, we are America becauseof our founding fathers in
George Washington.
That is the danger of havingmovies, because movies have
glorified those founding fathersand not told the whole story

(02:06:06):
right For sure.

Speaker 5 (02:06:09):
It's just what it is right.
You can go further back thanthat, even when you tell these
students, you know Columbus wasa slave trader, right, and they
go what he's like?
Yeah, like he, he wasresponsible for about fifteen
hundred what we would callNative Americans or you know

(02:06:33):
from from the Caribbean, he wasresponsible for about fifteen
hundred being taken back andbasically turned into slaves.
And they go no, no, I was likeyeah.
But here's the thing you guys,you got to understand when
Columbus was doing it.
That's just what you did.
That's just what it was.
Anybody would have done that.
There's been slavery, andthat's you and I have had this

(02:06:55):
discussion.
America did not invent slavery.
America invented stoppingslavery.
But stopping slavery doesn'tmean that you were moral to
begin with just because it waslegal.
I was waiting, I was waiting, Iwas waiting.

Speaker 3 (02:07:11):
No, I was waiting for the filmmaker to come in.

Speaker 5 (02:07:14):
So well.
So let me ask you.
So here's here's my answer tothat.
On that, I disagree.
Movies are there to make moneyand that is the only reason they
exist is to make money.
And if they don't make money,you don't get to make another
movie.
And like, if you turned aroundand you, if Saving Private Ryan

(02:07:38):
hadn't made money at the boxoffice, most people wouldn't
know about it, right?
Sometimes you have some cultclassics, like Office Space that
broke through on VHS and someof those things, but you don't
have a lot of true history.

Speaker 3 (02:07:56):
I think the only movie I can think of this is
going to be a whole otherconversation.

Speaker 5 (02:08:02):
And this is why, KJ, this is why I wanted to do two
pogs at the movies.
This is why I want to do this.

Speaker 3 (02:08:09):
Movies are propaganda .
Movies are for me, or at leastI look at it from the
perspective of movies arepropaganda.
Right, I don't know if that'sthe right word, I don't want to
say propaganda.
I don't know if that's theright word, I don't want to say
propaganda, I don't know.
Right, when was it in?
Ah man, president WoodrowWilson watched a movie at the

(02:08:31):
White House?
Right, it was a movie.
Thad, I think you got to knowwhat it is the Birth of a Nation
.
Right, there we go.
I know what it is, absolutelythe Birth of a Nation.
Right, there we go, the Birthof a Nation.
Right, and let me tell you thatone movie probably did more
damage, did more damage to racerelations than any public movie

(02:08:54):
could have done right.

Speaker 5 (02:08:56):
Probably killed, probably killed more people than
any movie.
Absolutely, absolutely, and Idon't disagree that that was.
But that's not true of allmovies, that's all I'm saying.
No, no, no, I mean obviouslynot all movies, I mean there's
always, but for the.

Speaker 3 (02:09:16):
I mean you can look at war movies.

Speaker 5 (02:09:20):
Look at Inglourious Bastards.
That's like.
A central theme of it is thatthe Germans were using cinema to
promote propaganda.
And then Shoshanna turns aroundand screws them at their own
game and kills them all on theirown game.
Screws them at their own gameand kills them all on their own
game.

Speaker 3 (02:09:38):
But I mean even Americans do it, because you
look at World War II movies andyou think you, like I said
Caroline Leavitt is a perfectcase study for this because she
doesn't realize had the damnGermans not ran out of fuel?
Yeah, the we could be.
Or had the Russians notturncoat, we could be.

Speaker 5 (02:09:55):
it could be a completely different landscape,
right, yeah, yeah, there's a lotof stuff.
Well, here's the thing.
Here's the thing If Germany hadgone into Russia four weeks
earlier instead of draggingtheir hills.

Speaker 3 (02:10:08):
Well, not even that, but in 1943, nobody was stopping
.
Nobody was stopping.
Germany, hell America wasn'tready to fight.
We had gone into isolationismafter World War I.

Speaker 5 (02:10:20):
We didn't have the army, but Germany didn't want us
in.
That was the one thing theywere worried about.

Speaker 3 (02:10:26):
I mean, yeah, they kind of had the hand for us when
Japan got crazy, and then too,they weren't expecting the
Russians to flip either.

Speaker 5 (02:10:38):
Oh, no, no, no, they stabbed Russia in the back.
Well, I I know they had so itwasn't about russia flipping it,
was they okay anyway.
So they had a miscalculation.
So hitler?
Hitler was dumb, because ifhitler doesn't turn around and
stab russia in the back theywould have been everything from

(02:11:16):
there.
England is probably speakingGerman right now.
There's no problem with you?
Yeah Well, the reason I sayprobably is because there's a
point where Germany actuallydidn't want to wipe England out.

Speaker 3 (02:11:34):
They looked at it as you're an Aryan brother, so they
would have spared them, but itwould have spared him, I mean,
but it would have been at theleniency of Germany, not because
Germany, of course, yes, yes,yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, germany
at peak operation, nobody likethat.
And again, that's why I say,even in America we underestimate

(02:11:54):
just how efficient and howtechnologically advanced Germany
, the German army, was overeverybody in the world.
The Blitzkrieg was absolutemilitary.
From a military standpoint, ohyeah, blitzkrieg was absolutely
phenomenal.
I mean, they, they, theydestroy.
And there is no way, no way wecould have spun up in time

(02:12:16):
enough to get.

Speaker 5 (02:12:17):
Well, but the funny thing about Blitzkrieg, it
wasn't that they were destroyingeverything.
If they were just passingthings well it used to be you
would come up.
So you're coming up on a townand we're like, okay, here's
this town.
We have to, we have to battleit out in the town, we have to
win this town.
And instead they went.

Speaker 3 (02:12:37):
We don't care about that, our goal is moscow, we
don't care about that, yeah onceyou take the capital, or
everything else is going tofilter out here.
That's what I'm saying from atechnical standpoint, it was oh
sure, absolutely so.

Speaker 5 (02:12:52):
What I'm saying about movies, though and I think
that's absolutely right itdepends on who's telling the
story, how they're telling thestory, what the point of the
storyteller wants to tell thestory.
I'm just saying propaganda.
Some movies absolutely arepropaganda, others aren't.
Like you, look at the twomovies that Eastwood made that

(02:13:14):
were phenomenal Flags of OurFathers on one side and Letters
from Iwo Jima To see theopposite side of the coin.
Some people are able to do that.
Now, of course, it wasn't allaccurate.
You know.
They definitely laid on IraHayes a little bit heavier, and
Ira Hayes went through somestuff, and I feel bad for Ira

(02:13:34):
Hayes, but but you know, on theother side you might have a
movie like the Joan of Arc, theTrial of Joan of Arc, which was
based on the act, not based thedialogue was the actual
transcripts of the trial, whichis incredible, but you couldn't

(02:13:55):
like Judgment at Nuremberg.
Could you take what wasactually said and turn it into a
movie?
No, because the trial lastedfor a year.
Now are parts of it in themovie?
I don't know, but I'll tell youwhat.
When burt lancaster was wasgiving his monologue about how

(02:14:15):
he messed up and how the germansneed to stop defending what
happened and need to to comeclean and be truthful with
themselves and the rest of theworld, I was sitting there going
this and the camera.
The camera kind of went like itwas.
I don't know how many takes,but there were not many cuts in

(02:14:36):
this.
This was not a 14, you know acut every three seconds, this
was a cut about every twominutes.
At one point as he's giving hismonologue, the camera zooms out
, it goes up high and then comesin on him again and I'm just
watching this going.
This is a masterclass.

Speaker 3 (02:14:55):
What's the name of this movie, man?
Because now you got me excited.

Speaker 5 (02:14:59):
Judgment at Nuremberg , and it's on the Canopy app.
Canopy with a K, k-a-n-o-p-y,so it's free.
If you have a library card, youget a certain number of movies.
It's like renting a movie andthe longer you have it the more
credits you hold, and you canhold up to like 16 credits.

(02:15:19):
So watching that movie it costyou like two credits, right, but
incredible, incredible, actingall around.
Again, I didn't know JudyGarland could actually act.
I mean, she's in the Wizard ofOz, she can obviously sing, but
it was the guy who plays theGerman, the guy who, to give you
an example of the brilliance ofthis movie, they start off this

(02:15:43):
is the German trial, so all theAmericans are there, and so
they're, of course, speakingEnglish.
So they have the headphones onit and there's a point where
they're doing the translationfrom German to English.
And then they kind of do thistransition where he's going from
sprechen to Deutsch to as hedid, and I want the Americans to
know, blah, blah, blah, and itchanges.
Transition where he's goingfrom sprechen to deutsch to as
he's and I've watched theamericans and it changes.

(02:16:03):
They do it in a way that you gooh, they went from german to
english.
So intelligently, because, like, really are we going to watch a
movie that everything they sayis going to be translated and
we're listening to a translationfrom them speaking?
But they did it for like thefirst five minutes of the trial

(02:16:24):
in the movie and then theytransitioned to English.
The other thing they did waseverybody that was German, that
was speaking English, was doingit with an accent.
Colonel Klink from Hogan'sHeroes is one of the defendants,
so he is the Germans.
Do we want to do the rightthing?
Colonel Clink from Hogan'sHeroes is one of the defendants,

(02:16:44):
so he is the Germans.
Do we want the soldiers of theright to say this is for our
country, you are great.
So it's Colonel Clink.
Right, and it's hard to watchbecause it's Colonel Clink, but
that's what it is.
So even Lancaster I didn't knowBurt Lancaster could do a German
.
It was a German accent.
You don't sit there and go.
That's Burt Lancaster.
I didn't know Burt Lancastercould do a German.
It was a German accent.
You don't sit there and go.
That's Burt Lancaster, it'sthis is he.

(02:17:05):
Is that German judge who didthis?
And so that's all I'm sayingabout, about.
Oh, I saw Stanley Kramer.
I was about to look at that andgo.
That was Kubrick, no, butthat's where I'm saying like
movies can be a strong basis foran education if they're

(02:17:28):
followed up with research andintelligent thought.
There you go, fair enough, yougo through and you watch Glory,
and if that doesn't spark yourinterest, to go to the National
Mall and find the relief of theactual thing they show at the
end of the movie that has thesoldiers of the 54th with

(02:17:50):
Colonel Robert Shaw on his horseand the cannons.
I love Glory and the first timeI was in DC I was like that's
what I have to go see.
Time I was in DC I was likethat's what I have to go see.
The first time I saw Amistad Idon't remember if I lived in New
Haven or in Connecticut at thetime or if I was when I moved to

(02:18:12):
Connecticut.
That was one of the firstthings I did.
I went and found the Amistadmonument.
Now the movie Amistad and whathappened on the Amistad don't
have a lot of things in common.
They have the name Amistad init, but I went and read the book
afterwards and read what thereal account was.
I was like, oh my gosh, yeah.
But if you show a bunch of kids, amistad, if you're allowed to

(02:18:35):
watch it because obviouslythere's some you absolutely
cannot, no way.
And that's the problem.
Well, you can't even show Gloryis rated R.
You can't show Glory becauseit's rated R, because of the
N-word and because of thewhipping.
Listen, one of the most powerful, absolute most powerful scenes

(02:18:59):
in the history of cinema isDenzel washington.
He leaves, if you remember, heleaves camp.
He sneaks out.
He's talking about getting somehe's.
He talks about hey, you know,there's this lady says she feeds
you.
If you go into, you're gonnacome with me, right?
And he, he gets caught as adeserter.
He wasn't des, he was going tofind some shoes and maybe get

(02:19:21):
some food.
Well, the punishment fordesertion was lashes was getting
whipped and they put him up andthey ripped the shirt off and
the hardened NCO, the Irish thisis your right, this is your
left he ripped the shirt off andhe looks like are we really
going to do this?

(02:19:42):
Because Denzel Washington is anescaped slave who has the scars
all over his back.
And Colonel Shaw's number twoguy says Kerry Ewells says not
like this Robert, and he saysmajor, standard attention.
And he goes there and you cansee Colonel Shaw I mean, matthew

(02:20:05):
Broderick was great at this,but you can see, even in his
face, like I don't want to dothis, but these them are the
rules and I don't want to dothis.
But the whipping, and you see, Imean I get choked up thinking
about it Denzel Washingtonstaring him down as he's getting
whipped, and you feel it ashe's getting whipped, and the

(02:20:30):
tear that Denzel Washingtondropped and it won him the Oscar
, that scene, if you've neverseen Denzel Washington in glory
getting whipped, go watch it.
And if you don't, if it doesn'tbreak your heart to think what
these soldiers did toparticipate in the liberation

(02:20:53):
not of themselves but of thiscountry, then I don't know what
to tell you.
Move back to wherever you'refrom, go back to Mexico, go back
to Ireland, go back to wherever, because you don't belong in
America.
If you're not moved by thatscene and think black men helped
us win this war, they were amajor part of winning this war

(02:21:13):
and it's important to know thesethings.
And that's where I say, like ina high school not just high
school, but in school you canteach kids about 54.
You can teach kids about theBuffalo Soldiers, you can teach
kids about slavery, but it'sjust words and until they see

(02:21:34):
something as visceral as andmaybe you can get away with
showing just that scene fromGlory maybe, but the most
important scene in that movie isat the end, when they charge
Fort Sumter and they all getkilled, including Colonel Shaw,

(02:21:56):
and as they are lining them upafter the battle yeah, they're
lining up after the battle andsliding them down and you see,
they slide Denzel Washington.
They did it on purpose, but howthey did it?
Of course Colonel Shaw is dead.
He's laying there and theyslide.

(02:22:18):
As they're throwing the bodiesin, they slide Denzel Washington
down and his character hitsColonel Shaw and his head goes
onto his shoulder and they'reequal in death and they died for
this country.
If you want, if you can't showstuff like that in high school,
these kids don't know and theyjust they don't get it and

(02:22:42):
instead they scroll throughTikTok watching people do these
challenges of throwing flour oneach other or whatever this
stupid thing is, and you don'tmake history interesting I don't
and you make the school systemin such a way that our kids, we

(02:23:03):
talk about idiocracy.
And I understand the threat ofidiocracy and there are some
things of idiocracy, I get it.
It's a ridiculous level of it.
But my daughter, she came homeone day and she said, dad, my
history teacher was talkingabout um, or one of my teachers,

(02:23:23):
he was talking about MontyPython and I know you liked it
and I.
He said it and I recognize itwas Monty Python and my history
teacher.
It's like, yeah, that's great.
You know what it is.
And so we sat and we startedtalking and we we started
talking and we started talkingabout history.
After 20 minutes she said shewas a I I believe she was either

(02:23:43):
a senior, I think she was asenior, and she said, dad, I
don't get it.
I learned more about historysitting here talking to you in
the last 20 minutes than I'velearned in my entire high school
career and I, first of all,part of the fault is on you, kid
.
They're teaching this stuff,but how they're doing it.

(02:24:08):
As a teacher, you have to beengaging.
And if I could tell that story,if you cut that part and put it
on TikTok and somebody watchedme reacting because I can see my
react, if somebody watches thatand they're not inspired to go,

(02:24:34):
I need to go watch that clipyeah, then I don't know what to
tell you as a teacher if you'renot getting your kids.
Now, there are some kids, itdoesn't matter what you do Got
it.
Some kids are there to bebabysat, but I think most kids
want to learn.
Most kids, yes, there's thatentertainment, I need to be

(02:24:57):
entertained.
But I also think most kids wantthat challenge, they want that
discipline, they want to knowthat while I'm in class.
The teacher cares enough aboutme that they're not going to let
me also be a jerk, and they'regoing to.
They're going to have my rightand left limits and if I'm a
jerk and I and I'm a tool, thenthey're going to treat me

(02:25:18):
differently and they're going tohold me responsible.
I think most kids would ratherhave that than the teacher who
rolls over and is going to go oh, I'm so sorry, but we also have
a generation of parents.
So if that said, you know wecan't do that anymore, and I
agree to some degree, um, butthe other side of it is we also

(02:25:41):
have a generation of parents.
When the kid comes home andsays I got an f because my
teacher doesn't like me, andthey and the parent will go in
and say why did you fail my kid?
Well, he failed the tests, hedidn't turn any assignments.
Well then, you didn't teach himthe right way.

(02:26:03):
Oh, now it's my fault that yourkid is disruptive.
It doesn't do their work, itdoesn't care, but if I'm going
to give him back now, you care.
Have you gotten any of theemails that have been sent out?
I had a teacher reach out to meabout my son and she said hey,

(02:26:24):
by the way, he is missing thisand he's missing this.
I'm willing to help him out.
And I asked him like what do youthink?
And he's like well, she doesn'tteach the right way, blah, blah
, blah.
And so I reached out to her andsaid hey, here's one of the
things he's concerned about.
He feels like what's on thetest isn't what's covered, like
I don't know what the situationis.
Can you explain it to me?
She said well, yeah, there aretimes where you know you have to

(02:26:47):
do some critical thinking.
But if he's struggling, here'smy open pot.
You know, on Wednesdays andFridays, at this time, right
after school, if there'ssomething he doesn't understand,
please have him come in and Iwill sit down with him
one-on-one and go over it.
And I told him that I was likeokay, guess what on Friday
you're doing?
I'm not picking you up at two40.
I'm picking you up at three 30.

(02:27:07):
Cause you're going to go talkto the math teacher.
I don't want it.
Yes, you said you didn'tunderstand this.
She's willing to.
That's where you're going to be, you know what he did.
He went because I held himaccountable and I said I'm going
to check with your teacher.
Make sure you show up yeah andafter afterwards I said now do
you understand what you're doing?
He goes.
Oh, yeah, okay.

(02:27:29):
So what's the differencebetween what she was teaching
you in class versus what shetold was teaching you one-on-one
?
Well, I mean, when it's inclass she doesn't like, she's
not as focused, and she there'sother stuff going on, she's just
not as clear.
I'm like OK, so if that's thecase, do you know now that you
can go on Wednesday or Thursdayor Wednesday or Friday and you

(02:27:49):
can talk to her?
Yeah, ok, good, then that'swhat you need to do.
Or you can self-educate whenyou get home, figure it out.
Let's notice, effective, fine,need to do.
Or you can self-educate whenyou get home, figure it out.
Well, that's not as effective,fine, but you got to learn this
stuff one way or the other.
And then the dumbest part, justlast thing.
The dumbest part is I asked itlast week well, so what do you

(02:28:10):
have you decided what you kindof want to go into?
I know you're 15 and all that.
He goes well, engineering.
I said you don't like math, hegoes.
Yeah, I know, like dude,engineering is like 90 math.
So are you not good at math oryou don't like math?
He goes.
I'm kind of both.
You want to be an engineer?
I'm telling you, man, go becomea plumber.

(02:28:32):
Everybody poops.
I wish I to this day like if Iwas 15, now I'm a little bit
different, but if my, if I'd hadsomebody that I respected and
and well, just, it doesn't workgenerationally because I can
take him and say, hey, come here, I'm going to show you how to

(02:28:52):
do this, and his interest willbe there for about 60 seconds
and then it walked away.
Show him how to do somethingactually in the house.
This is what you do to fix this.
Yeah, okay, but, and you cansay well, you can just go look
it up on youtube.
These guys don't know thedifference between a regular
screwdriver and a philipsscrewdriver, though my favorite

(02:29:14):
line is dad can you just callsomebody?

Speaker 3 (02:29:16):
can I just call somebody?
I'd be like ugh.

Speaker 5 (02:29:20):
Anyway, you got to get up and get me man, yes, and
it will cost you the next twomonths of your money to have
them come out.
That's my other favorite thing.
When we go to the store, mydaughter says she's 11.
She's like will you buy this?
I said, well, you've earned $20from chores and from soccer and
all that You've heard, so youcould buy.

(02:29:43):
You could buy it.
Oh, no, I don't want it.
Yeah, You're willing to spendmy money on it?
and not your own.
If you're willing to spend yourown money on it, I will get it
for you.
I don't really care what it is,it's your money.
You, you want to spend $25 onyour nail stuff, that you're
going to put your nails on andpull them off the next day.
I think it's silly, but okay,cool, it's your money and that's

(02:30:05):
kind of how I do it.

Speaker 3 (02:30:06):
Yeah, that's what we're doing with the toddlers
now.
Final thoughts, man.

Speaker 5 (02:30:11):
We are two and a half hours.

Speaker 3 (02:30:13):
Two and a half hours Most.
Yeah, what are we doing?
Yeah, we definitely burnt timetoday.

Speaker 5 (02:30:18):
Go ahead.
You got the final thought.
I don't care, I don't need afinal thought, I've been talking
too much.

Speaker 3 (02:30:22):
Yeah, I'm good man.
Hey, we will see you guys nextweek, one more week before our
three-year anniversary.

Speaker 5 (02:30:33):
Is it two?

Speaker 3 (02:30:34):
or three.
We'll be going on our thirdyear, oh so it's our second
anniversary.
We completed two years, butwe're going on our third year
year, oh so it's our second.
We completed two years, butwe're going on our third year
and it's going to be Greg.

Speaker 5 (02:30:41):
Easterbrook.
We need to promote that, likewe did seriously.

Speaker 3 (02:30:45):
We start next week.
We start next week putting itout.

Speaker 5 (02:30:49):
Do the little clips from when he was on last year.
And just he's coming on again.
Let's go.

Speaker 3 (02:30:55):
All right man.

Speaker 5 (02:30:56):
Same back channel.

Speaker 3 (02:30:58):
I'll holler at you later, brother.

Speaker 5 (02:30:59):
Thanks for showing up at some point you need to come
on so we can just talk movies,let's do a top 5 movie or
something.
Let's do an episode aboutmovies man, you guys will be on
here 3 hours talking movies.

Speaker 3 (02:31:12):
Cool, alright, we are out of here.
Let me hit the notes.
Play the music what do you wantto do tonight?

Speaker 2 (02:31:22):
same thing we do every night.

Speaker 3 (02:31:24):
Note Take over the world and greatest chaplain in
the world, Mr Lance O'Neill.
Take over the world.

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