Parades, Protests, and Problematic Words

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey Gee man, what do you want to do tonight?

Speaker 2 (00:05):
The same thing we do every night Pinky, Try to take
over the world.
All right, yo, let's get intoit.
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Speaker 1 (00:16):
You're preaching freedom to the public.
Try to take over the world.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
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O'Neill, try to take in theworld.
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Yo yo yo, what up, what up,what up, what up, what up, what
up.
World man, I am glad to seey'all faces again.
I am KJ Bradley, back with thebest chaplain in the world.
Thank you, sir, for holding itdown last week.

(00:45):
Your show was amazing.
I got a chance to watch it inbunches because we were out of
power, getting used to thisCalifornia power surging
structure.
It's a little bit weird, butwhat up, though.
Chat, looking good, man, howyou doing?
Happy Father's Day, first andforemost.
Yeah, well, thank you, and I,I'm gonna hang up now and make

(01:14):
you do the next hour.
Listen, man, I, um, I don'tknow cali's weird man.
They, they, they have weeklyscheduled um maintenance on the
electrical here, um, which is Ihaven't experienced that before,
that well, not in america.
I've experienced it, you know,in iraq or whatever.
We've powered down and we'vecome black out before, but
seeing it done here in americais weird.
California is a weird place,man.
It could be extremely beautifuland extremely rough, all within
a couple of blocks and I justwe, we're getting our sea legs

(01:36):
about us, but it is slowlygetting getting used.
What's up, though, man?
Busy week.
Yeah, I was able to catch up.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
No, no, yeah, not really.
I mean, I didn't not muchhappened this week, it's I'm
trying to think of anything thathappened this week.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
I can't put my finger , especially on the global,
really um, I mean, well, I willsay this.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
Uh, I didn't.
I don't think I saw theannouncement that trump is the
king now I.
I assume that if he was goingto make that announcement, it
would have been yesterday duringthe parade, and he'd come out
and said I take the crown ofAmerica and I am now your
emperor.
The Jedi have attacked me andleft me disfigured.
Listen, I Seriously.

(02:21):
If he had done it, how funny,how funny if he'd gotten up and
said that.
If he'd gotten up and said thejedi have attacked, the jedi
have attacked me, they've leftme disfigured listen, man, I, I
was surprised.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
Even here in in our local community, there were no
king's protests and I, I it's.
It's so weird, man, it's, andthat's, it's stupid, it's stupid
.
Crazy Right, but these protestslack flavor.
They lack black people.
You can tell there's no, why?
Ok, there's no, why do?

Speaker 1 (02:55):
they lack.
Why do they lack?
Why, why do they lack?

Speaker 2 (02:58):
flavor.
This is strictly all you know.
I hate to put it that way, butthis is America.
Black people have been sittingthis one out since the election,
and rightfully so.
I understand why no, no, theseprotests are.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
It's because this is not.
Oh, did you?
Okay, there you go.
This is absolutely acoordinated movement.
Yeah, my Wi-Fi has been weird,I don't know if I'm just in the
wrong room or what, but yeah,this is.
This is coordinated.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
This is not so so let's, let's talk about it.
Written all over it this, thisis ridiculously dumb.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
Oh yeah, and that's why I say it lacks.
For you saying it lacks flavor,I say it lacks heart.
This is an absolute.
When you can have X number ofpeople show up right after an
event and they haveprofessionally made placards and
they have an organizedleadership.

(04:03):
Well, that was hard enough forme to say right, but I said I
might need some help, kk.
But when you have this level ofcoordination, it makes you go.
This is not real.
It's not in LA.
It became this.

(04:24):
I'd really like to know whothought no kings?
I saw a pretty good meme onthis.
We already have a no kings day.
It's called July 4th.
That was you know.
Trump is not trying to makehimself the king.
He's not in there to Trump isthere.

(04:48):
You and I have talked aboutthis multiple times.
Trump in there to trump isthere.
You and I have talked aboutthis multiple times.
Trump is there to break themachine.
He is there to cause chaos to.

Speaker 2 (04:55):
Potentially, I think trump in 2017 was there to break
the machine.
Trump in 20 whatever year we'rein, he's a he's a useful idiot.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
Well, I know you think that and I think that
there is.
To me it's the reset button.
It's not an easy reset butunfortunately, to me the reset
button is not enough becauseit's not in the right place, and
I think that's where thefallout with Musk came in.
That's where the fallout withMusk came in.

(05:28):
I think Musk thought the resetneeds to come from a financial
reset, a true shrinking of thefederal government, a real look
at, a hard look at things likesocial security, the entitlement
spending and I don't think thatTrump entitlement spending, and
I don't think that Trump isgoing along with that because he

(05:49):
realizes that that is how youlose a midterm election as well,
because the minute you starttaking money away from people's
pockets, they get all pissed offand people like their money.
That's ultimately, I think,kind of what it is.
And the tariffs, the tariffs.
I don't know about the tariffsstill, because you know, was it
a win, was it a lose?
Was it a wait?

(06:10):
And see I think at the veryleast we're at a wait and see
the Doge stuff.
I think it could have reallybeen a real positive, but then
it got wrapped up in a lot ofstuff that it wasn't.
It didn't come down to costcutting, but the idea that it's
a well.
I mean, if it was a costcutting, it will be cost cutting

(06:30):
down the road, simply becauseit took a look at contracts.
But again, this is all I likethe ideas, but it's in the wrong
places.
Again, if you want to reallymake some significant changes to
the financial status of America, why are we subsidizing

(06:51):
massively large corporationsthat produce oil and petroleum
products?
Why are we subsidizing massiveagro corporations?
Yes, we love food and, yes, allthat stuff.
But if we are subsidizing thesegiant, giant corporations, how
many corporations run the world?

(07:11):
What is it Like?
12 or something?

Speaker 2 (07:14):
They're all.
They're all subsets.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
Yeah, they're all intertwined and all that stuff,
pepsico owns like 18% of themarket and of different things
and or or whatever they are.
And to me, that's really whereit comes down to is, if you're
serious about this stuff, thenfirst of all, stop subsidizing
mega corporations.

(07:35):
You don't need to.
You don't need because and Iget it the idea is you're not
just subsidizing thecorporations, you're actually
subsidizing the stock market,which subsidize subsidizes the
people that invest the the stockmarket.
This subsidizes not only richpeople, but middle class people
who invest.
But, realistically, that'swhere you make those cuts.
That's where they need to be.

(07:56):
As far as the government goes,yes, I think we are bloated as a
government and we need toreduce the workforce by probably
10% to 20%, depending on howyou do it, but that doesn't mean
you automatically cut the lastin.
Some of those people that arelast in are the ones you want in
there.
What you really want to get ridof are those people that are

(08:17):
there 10 to 15 year middlemanagement that are sitting back
just saying, hey, I'm a staffsergeant, I've already been in
for 10 years.
This sucks.
I don't really want to do myjob, but you know what?
I'm close enough to retirement.
I can suck it up for eight to10 more years, right, and I'm
going to do the bare minimum.

(08:37):
But instead of rewarding thatspecialist who is a hard charger
or even a pfc, and you're going, hey, this kid, he could really
.
You know, he could.
Actually he should be runningthe shop.
You have a staff sergeant.
Well, I have the rank, but,dude, you don't want to do
anything?
Yeah, but I'm the staffsergeant, I've earned this, okay

(08:58):
.
So what are you going to do tofix the problem with your shop?
Well, I mean, it's not reallymy fault that the shop is broken
.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
Those are the guys you want to get rid of.
Yeah, so do you think?
Do you think those did theirjob?

Speaker 1 (09:15):
um, I think it was a wash at best.
I I think that I again, I likethe idea and I think that the
way they did it, unfortunatelywas the red tape I guess would

(09:36):
be the way to get in the wayit's like you're going through.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
There was no red tape .
They did it.
There was no red tape.

Speaker 1 (09:43):
No, there's always red tape in the government.
Dude, there's always somethingwho stopped them?
Oh well, you have the mediapushing back, you have the
Democrats pushing back, you havethe deep state pushing back.
So it's not that Doge hadunlimited power, because you
still bump up againstlegislative and laws, right?

Speaker 2 (10:06):
Well, no, the legislative team was on their
side.
The reason people pushed backwas because they were doing what
they weren't supposed to do.
I'll give you an example.
Let me give you one example.
Sure, you can't say we'recoming in to cut finance right,
that was their sole purpose.
Right Doge is created to waste,get rid of waste right six

(10:28):
months and not one dod audit.
The dod has, as we've discussedseveral times, has never passed
and not in 20 odd years, yeah,25 years, something like that,
yeah create a, you create anorganization who's coming in to
find the fraud, waste and abuseand in six months they do not

(10:51):
even sniff the DOD.
It's a red flag.
But what they did is they wentin and they went to the IRS.
They got all the socialsecurity numbers, they got all
the personal data, theyinfiltrated DOE, they got all
the loan information, borrowsinformation, so all of this
stuff where for me, it's anotherone of those.

(11:14):
Hey, this is what we're goingto do, but the minute you
approve it, they go do somethingcompletely different, right,
and then you sit back and lookoh well, we tried.
No, you really did not.
If you look at it like, if youlook at it objectively, what did
those accomplish outside ofstealing data, which is what I
said they were going to do sixmonths ago?
They accomplished nothing.

(11:35):
The savings that they, thesavings that they found or
eliminated, were minuscule.
We did nothing, but we I don'tdisagree.

Speaker 1 (11:44):
Nothing, I don't disagree.
I don't disagree on the DODpart at all.
But I think that when I saythat the red tape and all that,
because you can say thelegislative, the Republican
legislative, was behind Doge,but they didn't pass a single
law to actually do anything, andthat's part of the problem,

(12:05):
it's a status quo you can say ohyeah, I'm behind.
Hey, dude, I'm behind you.
You go do what you got to do.
Hey, I need help with this.
No, you go do what you got todo.
Hey, we need to change the lawhere to fix this.
Oh well, you go do what you gotto do.
Well, but wait a minute, weneed to look at how we're

(12:26):
spending money.
Yeah, but you go do what yougot to.
There's a point where and thisgoes beyond Doge, this goes
something I've been arguing now10 years is executive orders.
Executive orders are not theway you're supposed to govern.
And I get, there are timeswhere executive orders are, if
not necessary, they arelegitimate.

(12:49):
But you've seen over the pastthree administrations and I'm
saying Trump, biden, trump thatthat has become the norm.
And yes, they can sit there andthey can say, well, it's
because the legislature isground to a halt.
Ok, fine, but you know whatPart of the job of the president
is to say this is the policythat we want to pass and then we

(13:14):
need to come together and findthat common ground.
Famously, reagan and O'Neillback in the early 80s on
political sides were were polaropposites, but they would sit
down.
If I remember the story rights,they got together.
I believe it was every singleweek.
They sat down and had a lunchand said, all right, where are
we?
What can we do here?

(13:35):
Like what?
Legitimately?
One of the things I've arguedthe best thing that happened to
Clinton was the 94 red wave, thecontract with America, with,
with newt gingrich, because forthose first two years there were
there was a democrat senate andthere was a democratic house,

(13:56):
and then you added so here, eventhen they.
Then they got together and said, okay, so this, I want this,
you want this, I want this andthose't.
But you know what?
What about this?
Yeah, yeah, I can do that.
So the good ideas got throughand that absolutely helped
Clinton.
But we're at a point now whereif you're a moderate, if you're
a Manchin or Romney or whoeverin the middle, you're seen as

(14:19):
somebody that is a rhino orwhatever the equivalent of a
Democrat rhino is, do you know?
I don't know, but you even seethat in the Democratic Party.
I think it was our good friend,governor Walz from Minnesota,
the failed vice presidentialcandidate.
He came back I think it wasthis week and he said the reason

(14:42):
we lost is we didn't go far.
The American people don't thinkwe went far enough on the
progressive side.
Really, that's what you thinkthe problem was Okay?
I mean, I hope so, because youknow, you see Republicans.
I'm sure you saw the video ofthe guy who was in his car

(15:04):
talking about the LA riots andhe basically said hey, you know
what?
Keep going, Because everyperson who sees this, you're
creating a new red voter,because you have people jumping
up on cars, burning down carswith Mexican flags and the ads

(15:27):
are writing themselves forRepublicans and there's a level
of truth to that.
But I think he's right.
That said, I don't see anythingthat Republicans have done in
the first.
What are we now?
Five?

Speaker 2 (15:46):
months, six months, six, now Five months, six months
.

Speaker 1 (15:55):
Six months in.
Yeah, you know, I've said, giveit time, give it time, and so
it's not that I'm unimpressed,but I'm certainly not impressed.
I think this has been sixmonths of a lot of bluster, a
lot of hey, we're going to get alot of we're going to swing for
the fences and I've basicallyseen a lot of foul balls.
We are right, we're still inthe first at-bat, we haven't

(16:17):
gotten anything done and allwe're doing is fouling off
pitches.
As a country, it's like, okay,and meanwhile Israel's coming in
and going grand slam, boom,we're going to do something.
So with that, let's switch towhat's going on with Iran and
Israel.
Yeah, all right, so here we go.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
So I put this caption up as Israel versus everybody,
because right now it seems likeIsrael is just like well, hell,
we already started.
We might as well just keeprolling.
For those of you guys who don'tknow hey, what up man?
Hey, I'm so glad to see yourface, brother.
Thanks for joining us tonight.
Hey, so Israel, the vulnerablecountry of Israel, who we have

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solemnly sworn to protect nomatter what, has just been on a
rampage.
I remember I went back and Ilooked at a couple of episodes
when they first started theissue with Hamas and I said
Israel is that drunk cousin thatyou don't, you really don't
want to have around, but whenthey're, you know they're family

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, so you have to protect them,no matter what they do.
And it's one of those thingswhere it's like okay, hey, I
understand, hamas bombed youunprovoked, you went scorched
earth.
Justification was well, theystill have our hostages, you
would do the same thing.
And I said, okay, that's aweird flex, but sure, alright,

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cool.
And then, out of nowhere, theygo shooting up Iran and you're
like dude why that's not out ofnowhere no, iran.
So Iran has never, neverpreemptively, struck at israel,
even though it's been, eventhough it has been an accident
existential.

(18:12):
No, for the last.
Whatever they, they've beenmortal enemies for god knows how
long, but iran has neverdirectly just sent missiles and
struck well, what was that wordyou just used?

Speaker 1 (18:25):
yes, that no, no, the d word directly directly oh how
is iran indirectly attackedisrael no, we all right.

Speaker 2 (18:36):
So if turnabout spare play israel has is has
unequivocally messed with Iranconsistently over the last 48
years Absolutely.
Israel has become the king ofthrowing stones and then
throwing their hands up and belike we got to protect ourselves
.

Speaker 1 (18:53):
Directly, absolutely Okay.

Speaker 2 (18:57):
Here's my take on it.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
But this is something that has been coming for 10
years the idea of Iran having aweapon.
I saw a British guy who wastalking about this from about
eight years ago and he said thisis what's going to happen.
It's basically what's happened,but Iran has, within the last
couple of months, the WorldWatchdog and I'm blanking the

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name of the nuclear watchdog andit was the one that, yeah, it's
the one they made fun of.
Team America, hans Briggs?
Oh no, not Hans Briggs, mr Kim,you will do what we say, or
else we are going to write you avery strongly worded letter.
Oh no, not Hans Briggs, fuckyou hubrics.

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But basically OK.
So the International AtomicAgency I think that's what it is
yeah, so they basically cameout, I think last month, and
said, yeah, iran is justignoring everything we're

(20:06):
putting out.
They are full of crap.
They are well on their way.
They are eminently going to besecuring a nuclear weapon
Eminently.
It could be a matter of daysand they have increased their
production of weapon-gradenuclear material by 50% increase

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in the last two months, right,yeah, okay.
So to me, israel's going allright.
We were really close to having adeal with Saudi before Hamas
attacked us.
We're already in a pretty goodspot with Egypt, because Egypt
doesn't want to get involved inanything right now.

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Egypt they're, they're overthere.
Saudi they're kind of, andSaudi doesn't like Iran either.
Remember Sunni and Shia.
So Saudi is not on Iran's sideeither.
Remember Sunni and Shia.
So Saudi is not on Iran's side.
Gaza is now a war zone that hasbeen completely destroyed, so
Israel's not really worriedabout a lot of attacks coming
from Gaza and Hamas right now.

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Hezbollah, if you remember, afew months ago, they kind of
went oh yeah, well, we're goingto.
And they got hit in the faceand went oh crap, no, no, we're
out.
The Houthis were like, oh yeah,but we have ours, boom.
And then the US went no, youguys are done.
So now you've got Israel andIran in a one-on-one situation,
and you remember I think it waslast year Israel punched a nice

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little jab right to Iran's face,right, they killed one of the
top leaders, and Iran went youcut through the Tos and they
launched a couple of missilesand then, ha ha, you see what we
did to Israel.
And Israel went oh yeah, oh no,you blew up part of the desert,
oh no, okay.
So now we're at a point whereand I understand the argument

(22:06):
because Israel will say with astraight face that we never
instigate, we only react.
And they will say that with astraight face, no matter how
many times that has been shown.
That's wrong, because what theydo is they, preemptively, they
kick the guy in the balls andsay, f, you, you're not going to

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, hey, we're going to be in afight.
Hey, look over there, boom,boom, boom, I'm going to knock
you out, I'm going to hey.
Before we even.
They're the guy in the bar whosays, hey, you want to take this
outside, and as they're gettingready to walk out, he grabs a
bottle off the table andcrunches them out, and then he
throws them outside and say GTFO, right, okay, yeah, which I

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understand, because at the sametime, while they're in the bar,
that dude has been talking smack.
He's going to kick Israel'sbutt and really, you know, mess
him up and his buddies are allaround.
Well, right now, there's nobuddies around.
It's Iran and Israel.
There's no buddies around, it'siran and israel.
And I think iran's going ohcrap, well, we have these

(23:10):
missiles, so we're gonna launchthese missiles, but iran, but
israel's going, go ahead, we'vegot, I mean, you look at the
numbers that I don't think it'snecessarily Iran.

Speaker 2 (23:23):
Iran has never really been afraid of Israel, right?
Because if it was one on one?
If it was one on one, iran andIsrael would be a coin toss.
Oh, no, no, I don't agree withthat at all, Iran has always
been concerned and worried aboutwho is backing Israel.

(23:45):
Iran has shown restraintbecause they don't want the
issues of America coming down onthem after the fact.
But just to play devil'sadvocate right, as much as
Israel sits back and says well,we're constantly under attack,
we got all these enemies aroundus.

(24:07):
Iran has been like but dude,leave us alone and we'll leave
you alone.
If you stop telling people thatwe're trying to kill you, we
won't kill you.
It's really that simple.

Speaker 1 (24:20):
But Iran's whole thing is death to Israel and you
guys don't have a right toexist.

Speaker 2 (24:29):
And we're going to use every proxy we can to wipe
you out.
Both ways, though, but it'sboth ways.
Israel's whole thing is Iran.
Doesn't we have to preemptivelystrike, because if we don't,
you're going to kill us?

Speaker 1 (24:39):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (24:40):
Right.

Speaker 1 (24:41):
Of course, but that's no-transcript.

(25:15):
Yom, yeah, the six-day war.
Yeah, the yom kippur war.
Right, so each time, each timethey have been attacked, because
they are seen as not only this,I'm not even sure.
I'm not sure you can't put thisin religious terms.

Speaker 2 (25:33):
You, I mean.
But you ever?
You ever think about ifeverybody around you hates you,
then maybe it's not everybodyelse's problem.
Maybe you may be.
You may be a problem ifeverybody else in the region
hates you.
Has the thought never crossedthe mind that, hey, maybe, just
maybe we may be the problem?

Speaker 1 (25:52):
israel strikes me as the, the woman who always dates
bad guys and will come out andsay, well, every guy sucks,
every guy sucks, without lookingvery different so I know it,
because if you look historically, OK and you can go ancient,
anciently, you can go fastforward to the time of Christ,
you can fast forward into thetime of the Roman Empire, fast

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forward to the Holocaust, youhave this.
This, the Jewish faith, is avery interesting dichotomy
because the way Hitler put it isjust insane, but this is kind
of how it seems.
Is all the Jews are a bunch ofevil, shape-shifting, horrible,

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less than human people who rulethe world.
Which is it?
Are they the dumb mongoloidgroup that is subhuman, or are
they so super intelligent thatthey control the world?

(27:01):
You can't have it both ways,and that's what Hitler did.
That I mean Hitler, full on,was like the Jews.
They are the ones that made uslose the war with the generals.
And if it wasn't for the Jewsand all this stuff, and they are
pieces of garbage and they areworthless and they are nothings
but they controlled the worldand made us lose, what so the

(27:22):
Holocaust?
Now?
Would the same thing behappening if Israel had been
created between Montana andSaskatchewan?
I'm doing well with my wordstoday.
No, no, it wouldn't have beenright of it right.

(27:48):
But historically, if you goback anciently, because Israel
was.
For thousands and thousands ofyears they were in the
Palestinian, the Canaan area,and that's where the UN decided
to do it.
And so now you fast forwardfrom the late 1940s, multiple
wars that have been 1940s,multiple wars that have been

(28:11):
gang up on Israel, and Israelhas gotten quite honestly,
they've gotten kind of probablyshould have lost If Egypt and
Syria during the Six-Day War hadactually attacked at the right
time.
I believe it was Syria thatdelayed.
If I remember my history right,Egypt and Syria were supposed
to attack at the same time andopen a two-front war.
It didn't work because Israelwent or, I'm sorry, Egypt went
and Syria sat on their hands forabout three days and by the

(28:35):
time Syria jumped in, the Sinaiwas already gone.
Israel had gone in with the airforce and wiped out the
Egyptian forces.
Then they were able to turnaround, go north and take out
Syria.
Now I could be wrong, could bevice versa.

Speaker 2 (28:48):
With the help of America.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
Well, with the help of American arms.
They didn't get help fromAmerican military, but, yes, the
arms.
Absolutely Right, they had.

Speaker 2 (28:58):
American advisors.
That was an American missionjust like now.
Just like now.
So here's the thing right.

Speaker 1 (29:07):
Do you think Israel listens to America at this point
as far as advisories go?

Speaker 2 (29:12):
Now not so much, but then definitely.
So here's the thing, right?
So Israel, right after thereconsolidation and the divvying
up of land right in the early,early 20th century, imagine
everybody in the region saying,all right, cool, well, we.
20th century.
Imagine everybody in the regionsaying, all right, cool, well,
we got this minority, got thisminority state right and we
wanna find a peaceful way.
We know it's not gonna bepeaceful.

(29:32):
We've been at this forthousands of years.
We're gonna figure out a way andthe UN says, hey, no, no, no,
we're the power brokers.
We're gonna take this smallminority and we're gonna
designate all of this land,crossing all these cultural
boundaries.
And if anybody crosses thisland or disfigures this land, we
are going to come at you witheverything we got.
We can see how that can causefriction in the region, right,

(29:56):
because you take a minorpopulation and you just gave
them land, which is cool,whatever, right?
So then what happens is thosewho were given this land, this
minority population who wasgiven this land, comes back and
says you know what?
Hey, not only do we want thisland, we also want that.
Can you help us get that?

(30:18):
And the footprint keeps growingand growing, while everybody in
the region is saying hey, man,you weren't supposed to get that
land, just be cool.
And it just continued to grow.
And what israel says?

Speaker 1 (30:29):
well, if we don't get that land that we were
rightfully old, we're going tofight you for it, but they're
not fighting fair so and Icompletely disagree with you on
that historically, because when,if you want to say that Israel
should not have been made in1949, I think it was 1949.
Fair, I mean, you can make thatargument.

(30:50):
Ok, we'll make that argument.
But it did happen.
And as soon as that happened aswell.
But part of the British mandatewas there was going to be a
Palestinian state as well andthe, and that was declined to
have.
They said if we accept thatisrael is here and we accept

(31:11):
this peace deal to also have apalace, you know, whether you
make israel or not, if you makeisrael and give us about, and we
accept that, I mean israel, andthey never the muslim, the
middle east never wanted, wantedIsrael to come back Because,
like you said, it's land right.
So what they do, the firstthing they do, is, as soon as
the mandate happens, within ayear, boom, they attack and

(31:33):
Israel went okay, spoils of war,which is a normal thing.
We kicked your butt.
So now we're going to expand,we're going to keep the Sinai,
we're going to keep the WestBank.
We're going to keep Gaza.
We're going to keep the sinai,we're going to keep the west
bank, we're going to keep gaza.
We're going to keep the heightsthe next time.
And and so israel started andthey got bigger and bigger and
bigger, and then over the last50 years they've given stuff

(31:55):
back.
Now that is not to say thatthere haven't also been
individual settlements that havegone in and popped up that
shouldn't have popped upaccording to their own rules.
Right, and you know, itprobably would have helped if
Israel had said, okay, hey,here's our border, guys, so
let's not go into their areas,let's back off.

(32:18):
But at the same time, I'm surethe justification in a large
part is I really don't care thatthis is a border If I want to
move there, because we just hadsome dude go in and blow up a
bus in Tel Aviv.

Speaker 2 (32:33):
Do you know why?
Because I got the preeminentpower of the world behind me and
if anybody crosses me, all Igot to do is make a call and say
, hey, we're being attacked,come defend us, right?
So here's the thing.
If Israel had been left aloneto its own bison, right?
We say, okay, israel, here isyour land.

(32:54):
You are now a country, goodluck, we'll get you set up,
we'll give you everything youneed to defend yourself and then
go about it.
If you get taken over orwhatever, sorry, right.
I mean alliances have beenformed, whatever, right.
But what?
What happened was Israel becamethe Chihuahua in the region.
Right, they kept nipping at theheels of everybody because they

(33:16):
had the damn kennel behind themprotecting.
That's all that was.
That's all it is.
It's still evident to this dayIsrael, everything Israel's
shooting is not from Israel.
And it's twofold because theUnited States uses Israel to do
its dirty work.
You know what I'm saying.
We understand the game, we bothknow.
We both have been around thetactical, operational sphere

(33:41):
long enough to know that it'spay for play sphere, long enough
to know that it's pay for play.
And the united states has usedisrael as their pseudo, pseudo
henchmen for decades.
Now, right, oh, they do thework that we can't.
We can't do.
So it's, you know, one handwashes the other, but so we got
to get to a point to where wegot to get to a point to where
we got to start calling thisthing out.
You know, equally and fairly.

(34:01):
Hey, okay, israel, stop fuckingwith people.
To put it crass, stop fuckingwith people.
You know, equally and fairly.
Hey, okay, israel, stop fuckingwith people.
To put it crass, stop fuckingwith people.
Nobody, you know people, willprobably be a lot more open to
diplomatic means to help you ifyou stop fucking with them.
No, they won't.
No, they won't.
Well, again, in 2000,.
Let's go back.
Let's go back and look here asrecently as 2000,.

(34:22):
I think it was 2011,.
Back, let's go back and lookhere as recently as 2000.
I think it was 2011.
Obama had the, the middleeastern court.
Where is iran?
Was like, all right, cool, hey,man, to appease america, we are
cool.
Bring israel to the table.
We'll come to the table andwe're done.
It was all but wrapped up.
But then the predecessor ofobama came in and said you know

(34:42):
what?
No, bump that Iran.
You don't get it.
You don't get a seat at thistable, we'll defend Israel.
And then the red team got allup in rounds about it and they
got all antsy and loud like theydid and they splashed.
So at this point, if you sitback and you look at it like
that, you've got to say, well,this is you know, this is, this
is done objectively, it's not amatter of peace it's a matter of

(35:06):
art.

Speaker 1 (35:06):
We have to keep this going.
So, okay, few things I want totouch on.
The us has had the back ofisrael since its formation in
1949, right, yes, okay, do youknow who was supporting all the
arab states since 1949?
Yeah, there you go.
So this isn't just the.
This wasn't just.

(35:27):
This was absolutely a proxything.
A lot of this has been proxywars, right, so so the US
supporting Israel is not asurprise when you go, ok, well,
you know the Russians aresupporting Syria and Iran and
all those.
Ok, so the other part of what'sgoing on is you've never had
Iran even recognize Israel.

(35:50):
They don't even say Israel,they say that country.
It's like BYU and Utah.
It's so funny, the Universityof Utah.
You'll hear their coaches saythat school down south.
They won't even say BYU.
That's what Iran and Israel arelike, right, it's a rock yeah.
Yeah, and so that's that's whatI'm saying, like at this point.

(36:11):
Yeah, because Israel doesAmerica's dirty work, especially
in the Middle East.
It's their only democracy inthe Middle East, it's the only,
it's the only country that hasthe intestinal fortitude to
basically say you know what?
We are in a legitimate kill orbe killed situation and so, yeah

(36:35):
, we're going to do what we gotto do.
If it's a knife fight, we'rebringing out, we're bringing a
gun right.
The US.
We always talk about in the US.
You and I are both soldiers,right.
So when we talk, always talkabout in the us, you and I are
both soldiers, right.
So when we talk about, well,the terrorists aren't, uh,
following the geneva, well, whyshould we?
And what's the answer for everyamerican soldier?
Because we wear this flag, wehave your standards.

(36:59):
And israel goes we don't give aflying f about that.
We don't want somebody sneakingup behind us and slashing our
throats, right?
So I don't have a big problemwith Israel going in and taking
out the nuclear trying.
I don't even know.
The last report I saw was notall of the sites were rendered

(37:20):
inoperable.

Speaker 2 (37:21):
I don't know how you would.

Speaker 1 (37:22):
honestly, so it's going to be interesting, but I I
think that what's going tohappen in the coming weeks is
you're going to have yeah,iran's going to launch a bunch
of scud missiles and israel'sgoing to keep striking and
they're going to escalate.
It's not going to go nuclearbecause israel's the only one
with a new.
If it goes nuclear, it's goingto.

(37:43):
It's going to be on Israel'spart because they're the only
one with one.
But I think at that point theywould actually lose the support
of the US.
So they can do everything up toexcluding.
Yeah, excluding, because I thinkif they dropped a nuclear
because you remember back in theday you're talking about the
mid-2000s you and I both knowthat if they had done a DOD poll

(38:09):
that said, should we turn,should we end this war, it would
have been 95% that said yes,yeah, go ahead and just drop a
big one on Tehran and we can allgo home right, because Tehran
was backing everything after 03.
That was all Tehran.
That wasn't the Iraqi peopleper se, that was the Iranians

(38:32):
coming in and killing all of ourguys, all the IEDs, all the
shape charges.

Speaker 2 (38:36):
I mean, but we knew charges, but we knew that,
though we knew that.

Speaker 1 (38:39):
Right, but at the same time, by knowing it but not
willing.
It was Cambodia 2.0.
It was.
We know everything is goingthrough Iran, but we as
Americans?
Well, iran didn't officiallydeclare war against us, which is
ironic because we didn'tdeclare war against Iraq either.
Technically so, but it was oneof those yeah, yeah, it was one

(39:01):
of those things that America,even America, we kind of went.
But you know, I rememberreading a story I think I've
told you this story before, butI remember reading a story years
ago that Iran I'm sorry, israelhad a team ready to go to go
assassinate Saddam Hussein wellbefore the Gulf War, right, and

(39:22):
they the second Gulf War, andthey had the team ready to go
and the day before they weredoing their final run through,
which was with live, live ammo,and they actually had a mishap
and a hand grenade went off andit killed like five of the 12
team members, which made themcombat ineffective.
So, of all the what ifs in theworld, you think where would we

(39:45):
be today if, instead of havingto go in and have Gulf War 2.0,
if that hand grenade hadn't goneoff and Mossad had gone in and
actually killed Saddam,assassinated Saddam Hussein?
How much different this worldwould look right now.

Speaker 2 (40:02):
It's one of those really interesting, but it's
then.
Rumsfeld wouldn't have mademoney, right, we were going.
We were going to Iraq.
We were going to Iraqregardless.

Speaker 1 (40:14):
I don't think so.
If that, I don't think, if thathappens, I think it would have
been something else, but you'reright.
Yeah, I think you're rightabout the money.

Speaker 2 (40:22):
You had to secure the stability of the region, right.
That was the whole thing.
The whole vision was we weregoing to expand the democratic
footprint.
Iraq would now become a secondDemocratic foothold.
However, the Democraticelections in Iraq did not turn
out the way we thought theywould.

Speaker 1 (40:44):
Well, not to.
I think the bigger thing therealso is just the absolute
ridiculous miscalculation offiring everybody in the iraqi
government and not and nothiring oh, you were a bath party
guy, nope.
And if you contrast that withwhat happened in japan, with

(41:06):
what macarthur did, macarthurwent in and he basically said
all right, who are your top guys?
Yeah, get, get them in here.
Hey, are you willing to work?
You guys lost.
Now, of course, there's acultural difference here.
And the japanese were like welost, you win, we'll do what you
say.
Uh, but macarthur didn't go inand shut down the police force

(41:29):
and shut down the um, all thestuff that goes along with a
huge mistake.
Oh, it's probably the biggestmistake the us has made in the
past 30, 40 years, especiallygeopolitically.
I, I again and and I think thatthat was I I understand the
idea behind it.
Oh, we're going to go in andwe're going to make iraq into,
but you can't do this withpeople.

(41:50):
Americans are very, very badabout understanding other
cultures.
It's well, we're Americans,this is everybody's democracy.

Speaker 2 (42:01):
You want to be like America, don't you?

Speaker 1 (42:03):
Everybody loves America.
Hey, we've seen the Poland.
If you want to go to anothercountry, you want to be in
America.
We're the best.
I get it.
I get it.
But at the same time you can'ttake somebody who is a goat
farmer and say we're going tobring you.
Do you remember, do youremember the movie with Robin
Williams where he was a Russiandissident who comes from the.

(42:26):
He defects from I don'tremember what he defected from,
but he comes to America, right,and he defects and he goes to
the grocery store for the firsttime and he's standing there and
he can't move because he's in asupermarket, and just a normal

(42:48):
supermarket.
But there are so many choices.
He's paralysis by analysisbecause he's going how do you
have all these stuff, what wedon't have?
It like he, it the russian, hisrussian brain was not able to
understand it.
And americans are kind of likethe exact opposite, like well, I
can't.
It's just a supermarket.
What do you mean?
You go in, you buy what youwant and he's going you have 50

(43:09):
different kinds of cereal.
When I go, when I stand, I haveto stand in line for three
hours to get a box of whatevercereal they give me and you have
.
How do I choose?
And so I think that when youhave a situation where, like
right now with Israel and Iran,I really think that I think the

(43:34):
US is going to continue backingIsrael as they always do.
I don't think there's a redline other than the nuclear, and
I think that here's here's partof the other problem, and this
goes back to kind of theconspiracy, little tin hat stuff
going on.
Well, israel just came in andhit the oil of Iran.

(43:57):
Right now, remember, the crudeoil manufacturing in Israel is
not what it used to be.
I believe it's under 5% of theworld.
But if you take out 5% of theoil-producing nation, that's
going to affect the money.
Mod scow on the Hudson.
Thank you, thad.
Yes, that's exactly to affectthe money.
Mod scowl on the Hudson.
Thank you, thad.
Yes, that's exactly what it was.

(44:18):
And if you are, it's almostlike you study movies there,
thad, but if you go in and youdo that.
So my question is and this issomething with the conspiracy
theory that you sent me onFriday morning about the
Pizzaeds dominoes or whatever itwas, yeah, like if you had, if

(44:41):
you had, a smoking gun of amessage went out to certain
trump supporters that said youmight want to short your oil for
the next three months.
Maybe you have something right.
We'll see how it goes.
I don't think this is going toturn.

(45:02):
I think we're at the pointwhere maybe Russia-Ukraine is
the last true boots on theground war that we're going to
see maybe ever just because ofthe technology with drones and
some of the other stuff we have.
And at that point then the realquestion becomes is America

(45:22):
still yes, you have the nuclearand all that, but like boots on
the ground, I'm not sure bootson the ground is ever going to
happen again, because Israeldoes.
Israel put boots on the groundNow.
Yes, they're in Gaza, get it,but I don't know.

(45:43):
I don't think this escalatesinto a what I hope.
Here's what I hope happens.
I hope Israel goes in and killsevery top person they can find
in Iran and America actuallysupports the spring revolution
in Iran, like it should havedone back with Iraq in 92, 91,
92, when we didn't, if we hadsupported the people of Iraq

(46:09):
like, like we promised in 91, orwas it 90?
Um, we don't have.
Go for it.
It was my junior year in highschool, so it was 90 or 91, when
the first go for happened.
If we had supported the Iraqipeople like we promised and the

(46:30):
revolution had happened.
But instead we cut base, we cutthem off and we didn't support
them, it was very much a Bay ofPigs.
I'm surprised there weren'tmore comparisons of the Bay of
Pigs.
But if we had supported themlike we were supposed to and
like we promised, we never getto Gulf War II.
We're a very different world.
So I'm kind of hoping that whathappens in Iran from this whole

(46:53):
thing is they do rise up.
You look at pictures of Iranfrom the mid 70s.
Iran in the mid 70s was NewYork, los Angeles, st Louis.
It looked like a normalAmerican world where women
walked around in skirts and menwalked around in in, you know,

(47:15):
ties and suits and and, and it'ssomething that I think would be
great if, if they rose up andthey were able to overthrow the
uh, the theocracy that they have.
I just don't know if they will.
I mean, you have, you've hadnow 50 years of death to America

(47:37):
and the West is evil.
How, how do you overcome that?
I don't know, but it's going tobe interesting, because I don't
think they're going to getsupport from the rest of the
region.

Speaker 2 (47:47):
If it's, if it's Israel and Iran, it's going to
be a one on one, and Iran cannotwin a one on one militarily
with Iran and Iran cannot win aone-on-one militarily with Iran
technologically, if Iran issomehow able to get back If
they're backed by, if, withAmerica standing back in the
shadows punching, doing theirhand like this, watch, right,

(48:08):
it's like being on theschoolyard fight, right, like
you've got two kids in themiddle of the circle and
technically it's a one-on-onefight, but one kid knows, if he
whoops that other dude's asshe's got to fight the rest of
the friends in the circlesitting in the back watch.
So you're kind of.
You're kind of iran, maybe kindof in this spot, like because
you got to keep in mind, like,all right, just for as long as

(48:30):
iraq I mean, israel has beenprepping for iran iran has been
prepping just as hard, if notharder, for it.
Oh sure, that's why we'reseeing these new hypersonics
that are starting to land inIsrael.
That Golden Dome has been therealmost 30-40 years.
You don't think Iranianscientists haven't been planning
and plotting how to get throughit for the last 40 years.

(48:50):
They haven't been sitting ontheir hands.

Speaker 1 (48:53):
Do you think those are Iranian?
Do you think those are Iranian?
Do you think those are Iranianscientists who are coming up
with that stuff?
Or another country a little bitfurther north?

Speaker 2 (49:00):
I mean, you know, the same way you know they use
weapons, you know.
Oh sure, suspiciously paintedred, white and blue.
You know it's one of themthings.
That's how it works, man.

Speaker 1 (49:15):
It's almost like geopolitical.

Speaker 2 (49:17):
Yeah, like I to tell people it's almost like
geopolitical.
Yeah, it's like I try to tellpeople man, don't get caught up
in what you see on the news.
You got to look behind the, youknow, peek behind the curtain
and see who the real wizard is.

Speaker 1 (49:24):
This is, you know this is how the world's been at
play.
Oh, for sure.

Speaker 2 (49:42):
And you have to wonder what's going on with
Russia, because, remember, theUkraine war was supposed to last
for like two weeks.
Oh yeah, I mean that that dronestrike really messed them up.
They were not.
That.
That was tactically brilliant.
I, I was, I stood up and Iclapped.

Speaker 1 (49:48):
When I saw that, I was like that is fantastic and
that is why I, and that is whyat this point, when I see
articles in the new york timesabout has the us lost the high
ground militarily because ofdrone strikes?
I actually worry about thatbecause china you legally, if I
remember, you can't.
They have passed laws inamerica that have kept it

(50:11):
illegal to actually build drone,american drones.
So unless the military isbuilding them, Well, no, those
drones, they're all.
Chinese.
They're all Chinese.
They're off the shelf, half ofthem.

Speaker 2 (50:28):
When you look at it tactically.
They had those drones.
They sent them drones in onsupply trucks at the beginning
of the war.
Right, so you have to you haveto start thinking.
You got to start thinkingtechnically.
How much crap is china shit tous that are sitting in
warehouses?
you know what I mean like andhow many and how many military

(50:51):
age young men have come acrossthe southern border like I'm
sitting, I'm sitting here, youknow I've been at the technical
game for a while but I'm like,oh, that's, that's interesting,
right, like if, if that doesn'traise a red flag for, like the,
the populace in america.
Because, you know, we got ageneral, we got a general

(51:12):
conception here in america thatwe're untouchable.
Right, and we were right,nobody was going to land ships
or planes in America and putboots on the ground.
But in this new war space, inthis new digital war space,
where we got hypersonics and wegot drones that are capable of,
you know, reaching out andtouching you, you got to really

(51:33):
be concerned that, hey, man, wearen't as secure as you think.
We are.
Right, there, there's just noway.
Like I'll give you a primeexample that beeper technology
that they use, that israel used,that was early 2000s tech, you
know.

Speaker 1 (51:48):
I mean, that was early 2000s tech and it was
supremely efficient right and itwas, and it was stuff they put
into place years ago.

Speaker 2 (51:57):
You get what I'm saying.
So you know the tactician in meis thinking like man that is,
if they were able to pull.
You know it's like Bugs Bunnypulling that old.
You know pulling the old Acmesign out of his bag.
Man we are.
We got other stuff to worryabout as a country.

Speaker 1 (52:15):
So part of the problem that the US and you know
this and I know this is thatwe're at war, we are at cyber
war with both Russia and Chinaright now.
Everybody else, yeah okay.
You could say Ukraine, even, orwhoever, yeah Okay, but we are

(52:39):
in active warfare, literal,active warfare on the cyber side
, against both China and Russiaright now.
This is why the space force andgetting into space is such a
big deal, because space youcould do if you are.
I don't think the U?
S has a plan to do anythingagainst China If there were to

(53:03):
be a a active shooting war,because we, we would be so
reliant on carriers and missilesand all that stuff.
This idea and maybe it's fair,maybe it's a fair idea that we

(53:26):
don't really need to worryourselves about China all that
much, simply because there'sthis thing called the Pacific
Ocean between us and it'sbasically basically you can't
really America, america cannotbe defeated by land forces.
We've seen it, it's called RedDawn.
It just come across the borders.

(53:49):
You're going to have a bunch ofrednecks running through the
woods saying let's go shoot atsome Chinese people.

Speaker 2 (53:56):
There's a reason why America and Russia have remained
the two most dominant empiresof the 20th, 21st century
because you cannot traditionally.
You can't invade them intraditional manners Now, in this
new digital landscape again.
That's why controlling thosechips are so important.
That's why people are sayingour reliance on china is going

(54:21):
to come back to bite us in thebutt sooner rather than later.
Because in this new digital war, yeah, he who owns the tech
owns the upper ground, right?
Remember?
I remember coming up we said weown the night.
Right, that was our thing.
We own the night.
We own the night.
Well, um, there is, was ourthing.
We own the night.
We own the night.
Well, there is no more night,it's 24 hours daylight.
So you know, people are gettingattacked in broad daylight and

(54:44):
we have to do a better job as anation.
But see again, that's whatbothers me with this whole
administration and all the leftand right, you got the war
within with the Christiannational movement.
We can, we can agree todisagree on some of the final
nuances of the Christiannationalism.
I think that's the mostexistential threat to the nation

(55:06):
.
Um, and and and, since it'sexception, but I digress that
diversion, that that pseudowhite supremacy diversion is
going to end up costing usbecause, like I showed you with
the, the whole, the whole pizzathing, right, you have our

(55:26):
pentagon and these.
These were a bunch ofschool-age kids who created an
app to track the, the volume oforders in correspondence.

Speaker 1 (55:36):
That's on.

Speaker 2 (55:36):
Google.
That's what I'm saying.
That's on Google.
My point is if kids are able tofigure this out with
rudimentary technology, what areour near peers surveilling us
as a target tier?
You sit back and you say, okay,well, we don't want to get into

(55:59):
a point to where we're creatingpatterns or we want to be
tracked, that sort of stuff.
This administration isextremely lackadaisical with
their procedures, to the pointwhere it's almost comically
braggadocious.
Right, it's like we've becomethe the real life good word.

(56:21):
You know, I mean, you cannot.
We're america.
So what?
Yeah, so okay, so I was usingunsecured, you know, whatsapp or
whatever, to send missions.
So what, what?
We, we're the ones that make itup.
We're the ones that make it up.
We're the ones that make it.
Who's going to stop us?
We got to realize and we got tounderstand.
But I mean at its core, lance,at its core right, we can agree

(56:45):
to disagree all this other stuff.
You put the red and blue stuffto the side.
At its core, you and I bothknow if you can be trapped by
the enemy, you are in danger.
There is no other way to put it.
If you can be tracked by theenemy, you are in danger.
And if, if our administrationis doing things to where we can

(57:06):
be tracked by school age kids,imagine what our near peers are.
What information are near peersare gathering on this?
That is a serious concern.

Speaker 1 (57:17):
So the first thing, on the pizza thing okay, if you
don't know what that is, there'sthese kids that look back and
they said there was a spike whatwas it, friday morning in the
number of pizzas that had beenordered.
And so because there was thisspike, therefore the US actually
did know what was going on inIsrael when Israel was attacking
Iran, because they obviouslyordered all these pizzas so they

(57:38):
could go in and watch the livestream.
And so the US was lying whenthey said we didn't really know
what was going on in Israel.
So that's kind of the backstoryto that For this incident.
So for me, I look at that and Igo eh, I mean, I'm sure any
time of day of year you couldhave certain things where you go
, boom, here's this beep.

(58:00):
After the fact, it turns out, ohhey, you know there was this
special legislative session orhey, we didn't, there was this
emergency, whatever.
There was no specifics to it.
That's why, to me, that thatone doesn't matter, the signal
one, that's obviously a biggerone, but the problem with the
Signal and the chips and allthat, my concern is that I would

(58:25):
guess, and I have absolutelyzero insight.
I don't have any insight orbaseball anything on this, but I
would guess somewhere between60 and 70 percent of every
single computer and electronicdevice and surveillance and
camera et cetera, already hasChinese malware in it and they

(58:45):
can shut it down by pressing asingle button.

Speaker 2 (58:54):
I agree, all right.
So we're going to cut it shorthere for those guys, for those
guys that are watching us onRoku Thank you so very much for
for another episode.
We're glad to have you guys.
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For everybody else, we're gonnakeep rocking here, uh, in a sec.
So we're gonna pause, do ourlittle tactical pause x right
here.
Okay, cool, now we back.

(59:15):
But yeah, so I have to agree,man, it's just one of those
things where I don't know.
Like I said I've always saidthis to you and I've been
consistent I've never beenconcerned with a Trump
presidency.
He is no more smart or dumbthan any other president

(59:36):
involved.
I told you my biggest concernwith his administration is the
people who he is allowing tomanipulate him in the
administration.
And six months in, we can sayRubio was a solid pick.
You can have your own personalrights with Rubio, but I think
Rubio was a smart play, right,you know, depending.
You know you can have your ownpersonal rights with Rubio, but

(59:57):
I think Rubio was a smart play.
He's been good Outside of that.

Speaker 1 (01:00:02):
Yeah, he's been solid .

Speaker 2 (01:00:04):
Outside of that, these dudes are the worst kind
of manipulator.

Speaker 1 (01:00:10):
Let me bring up one.
Let me bring one up.
And first, before I bring theone up, I want to make something
up.
I want to make one.
We still don't know who wasrunning the presidency for the
last two years of the Bidenadministration.
Ok, because it wasn't Joe Biden.
But if this is true, I saw avideo that said of the top 10 on

(01:01:02):
the FBI's most wanted list.
Now again, I have not factchecked, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:01:08):
That sounds like an X mean, and it might be that
sounds totally like an X meanWell but again it was.

Speaker 1 (01:01:14):
It was one of those things that I saw on a video.
I'd be curious, I'd be verycurious to know, because you
know it was one of thosereaction videos of somebody
going on yeah and it was likethey were on.
You know, oh, I'm watching thisguy on nbc morning news or
something like, so I don't know.
But but honestly, I meanabsolutely not, I'd be curious,

(01:01:34):
I don't know, I want to know.
But but was talking about howproud she was about the parade

(01:01:57):
that happened yesterday and theArmy 250th and how she saw that
some troops were griping, thatthey had to participate or that
there even was the parade orwhatever Right.
And what I said to her was well, you know, that's part of the
manipulation.
And she said well, I didn't seeany, any manipulation by Trump.

(01:02:18):
He got up and he said how proudhe was of the troops and, you
know, it was like it was allabout the birthday.
And I was like, no, that's notwhat I mean.
I'm talking about the mediamanipulation.
I've seen that in my friends.
I've seen people on Facebookthat have bought hook line and
sinker things that the mediaputs out about very important
things like what's going on inGaza.

(01:02:39):
I have a friend that is all inon the Gaza thing and whenever I
point out and say you know,there's still hostages, hamas is
still holding hostages, well,that doesn't matter, it matters
to Israel, it matters to thefamilies that have their
hostages, and then I love theone, then the response is well,

(01:03:02):
israel has a thousandPalestinian hostages.
You mean prisoners in jail, inprison, those aren't hostages,
those are prisoners, okay.
So there's this manipulation bythe media and so that's where
something like what I said aboutkash patel.
I don't know if this is true ornot, but let's say for a second

(01:03:25):
it was true, and if somebodycan fact check it, I don't know,
uh, but if it were to be true,like it doesn't, none of the
good stuff gets reported becausethe media doesn't care about
not just Trump.
Okay, let's go back to GregEasterbrook.
Greg's argument, greg's wholething regarding the media is

(01:03:46):
basically the critique that weare in the best place in the
history of the world.
We have the best technology, wehave the lowest amount of
hunger, we have the besttechnology, we have the the
lowest amount of hunger, we havethe lowest amount of disease,
we have the lowest, uh, amountof combat deaths in history.
Um, we live in pretty I meannot even arguably pretty, pretty

(01:04:13):
objectively, the greatest timein the history of the world and
all we do is complain about howbad the world is.
That's it.
And so when you have the mediawho is constantly saying and
don't get me wrong, fox Newsdoes it when Biden was in, and
you know everybody else does itwith Trump.
Ok, so this is not a, this isnot just a one side.

(01:04:34):
Even you and I like, for allthe things, we sit here, I think
we still do a pretty good job.
We focus on a lot of thenegatives, but we're saying but
we still appreciate certainthings and we are happy about
certain things, even right now,talking about and saying, hey
look, it's amazing, you justmoved from South Carolina to

(01:04:55):
California and you and I canstill get online and have a
conversation and we do this.
We don't make any money off ofthis.
We do this because for me, mywife goes why do you do this?

Speaker 2 (01:05:10):
I told him today I told him today.

Speaker 1 (01:05:12):
I was like she said do you have anything going today
?
I said, yeah, I have my KJ timetonight.
That's it my podcast.
That's it my podcast.
I get to go talk to kj, I'mtalking to my friend and we
happen to talk about politics.
Oh, okay, so the fact thatwe're able to do that, I mean
this, this is the type of thingif you were to say 200 years ago

(01:05:32):
to people like it, and it's whythe constitution cracks me up
when people say the argumentagainst the second amendment
Well, the framers of theconstitution didn't imagine
you'd have machine guns thatcould fire 600 rounds in a
minute.
Yeah, they also didn't realizethat with free speech, I could
be talking to somebody in NewZealand right now, literally

(01:05:54):
live, do you think?
Do you think they thought aboutthat when it came to free
speech and I love the people whosay that stuff so you're
arguing on your computer onsocial media that the framers
couldn't imagine guns that fireda lot of bullets all at once.

Speaker 2 (01:06:11):
Okay, that's a weird argument, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:06:21):
So we're.
So we're in a situation withTrump or anybody really, but
Trump especially there is aspecial, you've got to admit.
There is a special vitriol fororange man.
Bad Right, and it's alwaysworth.
Worse with Republicans, but oh,three of the top 10 must have
been captured.
And it's always worse withRepublicans, but oh, three of
the top 10 must have beencaptured.
Hey, that's great.
Three out of 10 is still pretty.
That's pretty significant in amatter of a few weeks.

(01:06:44):
So, yeah, so I don't know wherethat guy was coming from, but
hey, thad, I appreciate the fact.
Check on that.
So at the same time was thatreported?
I hadn't heard anything.
Had you heard anything aboutthe three of the 10 since Kash
Patel's come in have beencaptured?
That's, that's prettysignificant.
That's pretty impressive, right?

Speaker 2 (01:07:04):
I mean, you know I'm not a fan of the FBI, so I could
care less.

Speaker 1 (01:07:06):
That's beside the point.

Speaker 2 (01:07:09):
It's one of them things where it's like, oh OK.

Speaker 1 (01:07:12):
You and I are not going to have a lot of
disagreements about our opinionof the FBI and or many
government organizations.
The irony is we both make itmade our living off of a very
large, if not the largest,federal agency, but at the same
time, you know we were part ofthat, same time, you know we

(01:07:36):
were part of that and you know,hey, as if you ask me, I think I
did a pretty good job of of, ofmaking my little piece of the
world better, despite um beingstabbed in the back multiple
times, uh, by by other soldiersin your circle in my, in my
inner circle, yeah, inner justlike circle.

Speaker 2 (01:07:53):
I got stabbed yeah, you're like what the hell?

Speaker 1 (01:07:56):
yes yeah, I got, yeah , I got stabbed.
You know, and and again, mywife doesn't want me to ever
tell the story on on mediabecause she's like it won't do
you any good.
I was like, well, I definitelywon't do it before.

Speaker 2 (01:08:09):
Yes, not before afterwards or I I retire.

Speaker 1 (01:08:15):
Uh, maybe you know what I I think I might have to.
I might have to do the substack thing.
I might have to do it as aseries, but ooh, okay, I don't
know what.
That is somebody.
I don't know if we have a.
Is that a bot?
Hi, bot, we love bots.
That's our first bot, though Idon't think we've had a bot
comment yet.
Does that mean we're making thebig time?

Speaker 2 (01:08:33):
we are moving up on the world we have a bot yeah, we
world we have a bot.

Speaker 1 (01:08:45):
Yeah, we have Thad and a bot.
But you know, realistically,when we're looking at like the
parade, like again, I look at itand go it was a parade.
It was the 250th parade.
I remember when I went throughbasic training it was the 200.
It would have been the 201stArmy birthday.
I remember doing a parade.
I never once thought it waslike anything special outside of
hey, it's the Army's birthdayand anything special, like weird

(01:09:08):
special I mean.
But I tell you right now Istill remember that was the
first time that I was in uniformand I really got it because I
was standing in formation andthey did the national anthem and
it was the Army's birthday andI had tears going because I was
now part of of that brotherhoodand so I didn't watch the parade

(01:09:32):
, I flipped it on YouTube and Iwent click, click, click, click,
like literally I just clickedthrough the two hours just to
see.
I was like, oh cool, they havesomething.
But at the same time I alsoremember when they did those and
I was like, okay, do we reallyneed to stand out here in Fort
Leonard Wood in 90 degree heatand 70% humidity and we're all

(01:09:53):
sweating our testicles off andat the meantime it's like here
we have Private Johnson in aWorld War I outfit Blah, blah,
blah, blah and you're just likewho's the next one?
All you're doing is lookingaround, going who's going to
fall next?
Who's the next one?
Who's going to pass?

Speaker 2 (01:10:10):
out Taking bets, taking bets, yeah right right,
how many.

Speaker 1 (01:10:13):
How many is good.
Yeah, right, right, how many.
Yeah, so you know the parade.
I just I think it's funny forthe parade to then become part
of this no kings thing, becauseI don't know where this came

(01:10:34):
from.
I think it's bad marketing,honestly.
Whoever came up with the nokings?
Because it's not.
It's definitely Ast astroturf.
This is not a natural thing.
And then here's the funniestpart, and I don't know if you're
going to agree with me oh, Ihave somebody sneaking in.
I have a child behind mesneaking in.

Speaker 2 (01:10:51):
I thought that was one of my rappers.
That was one of my rappers.

Speaker 1 (01:10:54):
I read today that Trump is going to start reducing
the roundups based on hissecretary of and I didn't read
the whole article based on therecommendation of the secretary
of agriculture, because thefarmers have been once again the

(01:11:14):
argument who's going to pickour fruit?
And so now you talk aboutwhere's the slippery slope?
If you're Trump and you'regoing to say we are serious
about immigration, we areserious about closing the border
, we are serious about gettingpeople who are not supposed to

(01:11:36):
be here out of the country,we're going to get rid of people
who have overstayed their visas, we're going to get people who
came across the border illegallyand we're going to do all this,
oh what?
Oh, there aren't enough peoplepicking lettuce in California.
Well, except for those peoplein California that are picking
lettuce and strawberries, youknow what you can't do.

(01:11:59):
That it's insane.
You can't.
You can't If you are going tosay we are going to be a nation
of laws and we are going to.
We are going to take this wifewho's here illegally from this
husband, and now we're givingit's kind of the opposite side.
We're going to give thedemocrats now look, here's their

(01:12:21):
ad.
All they have to do is say lookhow much the republicans hate
families and don't care aboutwhat the family structure is,
and they're who cares.
You know she was in americasince she was 14 and guadalupe
had a stable home and was livingin America for 20 years.
She'd been married to herhusband, raul, who was an

(01:12:43):
American citizen.
During that time they had avery difficult time with
finances and both worked hardand didn't have the chance to
buy an immigration, to hire animmigration lawyer, because they
trusted for the americangovernment to protect them and
the trump and the republicanscame in and ripped guadalupe out

(01:13:04):
and sent her back to mexico,where she is now.
You know, blah, blah.
You know, at the same timeyou're writing the same thing,
the same type of you know.
So it's just, it's so stupid,because there are such simple
ways.
Again, you got you and I, tupac, saved the world.

(01:13:26):
We talk about solutions, theeasiest.
There is such a simple way tofix this.
I wrote this on Facebook.
Fix this.
I wrote this on Facebook.
You can pass two laws that willeliminate 90% of the problems we
have.
Number one it is required to bea US citizen and have a valid
United States citizenidentification to vote.

(01:13:48):
That's number one.
Number two the census will onlycount United States citizens in
their census.
So what would that do?
Okay, so now you just eliminateanybody who's potent.
And people have said well,there's not widespread fraud, it
doesn't matter, it's aperception.
You want to have people votewho are citizens.

(01:14:09):
You provide the IDs.
You let anybody who needs one,if they can, validate it by mail
.
And I had somebody, I had afriend argue this on Facebook.
He said well, you know, it'sreally tough for poor people and
people who are in rural areasand people of color to get an ID
like that.
And I said, dude, you have areally low opinion of people who

(01:14:30):
live out, rural people or blackpeople or whoever you're saying
.
I trust black people to be ableto go and get an ID.
I think black people are justas capable as white people of
going and getting an ID.
Call me crazy, right?
But the second thing is when youhave, let's say, 5 million

(01:14:51):
people come into the country,what that does is it does throw
off the representation, becauseif you take 500,000 people and
put them in New York City, well,utah needed another 30,000
citizens to get a fifthcongressional seat, but because
New York City had 500,000 morepeople, utah didn't get that

(01:15:11):
extra seat.
So that's a big deal, right,and I understand the whole
argument.
Misrepresentation, becauseWyoming has more representation
than New York, based on a percapita, and that's why senators,
versus how I get all that stuff, right.
But if you pass those two laws,and that's before you even get
into migrant, temporary migrant.

(01:15:32):
Look, if somebody wants to cometo America and pick fruit, cool,
you come across, get your card,beep, little biometric.
You walk in, you work for thesix months, just you, not your
kids, just you and you want tosend your money back at a
reasonable tax rate because youknow, president, what's her name

(01:15:54):
in?
I want to say it's Scheinbaum,but that sounds racist.
The Mexican president.
The Mexican president, it's aJewish name, it's like
Scheinbaum or something likethat.

Speaker 2 (01:16:04):
How in the hell did they?

Speaker 1 (01:16:04):
pull that off.
Yeah, she's apparently not evenfrom Mexico, at least I read
something.
I don't know if that's true ornot, but she's Jewish, I know
that.
Or well, I mean ethnicallyJewish.
Or she's jewish, I know that,or well, I mean ethnically
jewish, or she's not a.
She's not a practicing jew, butum, but like there's things
that could be done again.

Speaker 2 (01:16:22):
It's kind of the the whole census thing.
I I understand it.
But again, constitution if ifyou change it.

Speaker 1 (01:16:30):
It's not there.
Constitution doesn't sayanything about it outside of it
has to be done.
It has to be done and Congressdecides how it's done.

Speaker 2 (01:16:38):
Right and everybody had to be represented.
Well, I think you posted 2-1,right Article 2, section 1?

Speaker 1 (01:16:46):
Yeah, but again it doesn't say how right.
All it said was every free.
I believe it says every freecitizen, and then it went into
the whole three-fifths andthat's been changed, obviously,
since then Not citizen everyfree person?
Every free person.

Speaker 2 (01:17:03):
Yeah, that was the nuance.

Speaker 1 (01:17:05):
And so yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:17:08):
Scheinbaum oh, I got her name right.
That's how you were able to getto that whole three-fifths
thing, because every free personthey was like well, you know
the south has more slaves thanwe do.

Speaker 1 (01:17:22):
Blah, blah, blah.
So that's yeah, well, and theirony of the three, the irony of
the three-fifths again, was itwas not to.
It wasn't racist in terms of wewant to degrade black people.
It was we didn't want to givethe south more power,
overwhelming power to overwhelmthe black you know to use.
When you're not letting blackpeople vote, well, why are we
counting black people in thecensus if they can't vote?
And we're going to give youmore power in the South.

(01:17:43):
That will actually hurt blackpeople even worse.

Speaker 2 (01:17:47):
Is that not the same?
Is that not the same argument?

Speaker 1 (01:17:51):
I don't think it is, because when you're coming from
another country this is whatI've said to my my sister was
arguing with me about this andshe said well, you know why
can't people come here?
If you, if and I've heard thisargument from a lot of people If
you lived in one of these othercountries and you weren't able
to get a job or make money andyou knew you could go to America

(01:18:12):
and you could make money andsupport your family, wouldn't
you want to?
And I said, of course, sure,but where's the line?
Where's the line of it's, it'sborders don't matter anymore,
then, and you have to have, youhave to have a procedure, you
have to have rules in place, andif the rules are, you can only

(01:18:34):
come in in place.
And if the rules are, you canonly come in, unfortunately,
through a lottery or through atime and money consuming.
And it's unfair that somebodycan drop $5 million on a Trump
gold card.
Well, that's life.
Life's not fair.
You and I both, we both teachour kids Life's not fair, and

(01:18:55):
it'd be great if historically,people I mean borders and
managing populations have alwaysbeen a thing Right.

Speaker 2 (01:19:03):
You've always had to go through a central checkpoint.
You have to state the reasonwhy you were there, and if you
overstayed it they would roundyou up.
It was a lot easier back whenthings were contained because
because, hey, that house ain'tsupposed to be there.
Who the hell lives there?
People tend to get that wholeconcept of oh, immigration

(01:19:25):
control is bad.
It's not.
It's the history of the world.
The theory of immigrationcontrol is great.
The correlation I was makingbetween the three-fifths rule
and the immigration issue oftoday is they counted all of
those, those black people, right, who didn't have a chance to
vote, who don't have anyrepresentation, right, they're

(01:19:47):
just right here for sure.
And the people were profitingoff of their labor.
There's a lot of correlations,right.
You have the immigrants who?
The immigrants, are not allowedto vote, even though the
perception is that they'revoting.
They're not.
But the perception I get, thewhole perception is reality
thing.
They're not, it's just not.

Speaker 1 (01:20:06):
It's not widespread.

Speaker 2 (01:20:07):
Hold on, it's not widespread, but it happens, it
happens and it happens and,according to what's on record,
it happens more on the red sidethan the blue side, but it
happens.
But again, I understand theperception of it Right.
But here's the thing thoughthose immigrants who come in

(01:20:28):
when they buy from our grocerystores, when they buy from our
gas stations, when they drive onour roads, when they pay the
tolls, they are paying into asystem that they get no benefit
right.
When they're out working thosefields for pennies on the dollar
, at a low rate, they arebenefiting a system that they
don't receive the benefit backfrom.
So that's duality.

Speaker 1 (01:20:52):
Okay, because, okay, so let's say somebody is picking
, let's go nice round numbers,right.
Somebody's picking strawberrieson the side of on the
California coast for $5 an hour,right, okay, and they're
driving the roads and this andthat, okay, but they're not
getting any benefit.
The benefit is that $5, theycan send $2 of that back to

(01:21:15):
their family in whatever country, and that their family that $2
that they're sending back ofevery, okay, they're working 10
hours, so that's $20 a day, fivedays a week, $100.
Okay, so that $100 that they'resending back to their country
and to their home in Mexico orNicaragua or whatever, allows
their family in a way that theycouldn't even be making $100 a

(01:21:38):
week if they were there working,right, right but that's
one-sided though.

Speaker 2 (01:21:42):
How much of that $100 investment into that worker
that that farm or thatcorporation is getting, how much
ROI off of that $100 is that?

Speaker 1 (01:21:51):
farm getting.

Speaker 2 (01:21:52):
Oh, no, no, oh, yeah, oh yeah, oh sure, you have
states like Nebraska who areliterally going broke because
they don't have any migrants.
We've seen it in Florida.
When DeSantis did it, desantiskicked out all of his immigrants
, right?
Well, pretty much they did thewhole roundup thing before Trump
made it popular and Florida,the Florida ecosystem, almost
collapsed because they lost.

(01:22:12):
They lost.
I think they reported 65% oftheir orange crops alone that
they weren't able to pick.
They were just sitting therebecause they had nobody to pick
them.
So when we talk about you knowwhat's the cost now?
Yeah, it cost us $100, and outof that $100, they're sending 50
of it back to wherever they'reat right, but these corporations
are making hand over foot offof that property.

(01:22:34):
But here's the thing it'salways the lowest common
denominator, and that's why Isaid it's always it's as
American, as American pie,because the rich get richer and
it always comes back to blamingthe low, low man, right.

Speaker 1 (01:22:49):
No, and that's low man on the totem pole.
Right, and that's and that'swhere I'm saying there's ways to
fix it Right.
I don't have a problem withsomebody wanting to come here
saying there's ways to fix itright.
I don't have a problem withsomebody wanting to come here.
I think we need to fix thesystem.
I have no problem with what usedto be in place, which was a

(01:23:10):
card, a migrant card.
You used to have people,migrant workers.
Let's just keep it simple anduse two countries.
Let's just use Mexico and anduse two countries.
Let's just use mexico and incalifornia, right.
So in the spring you would havetens of thousands of migrant
workers from mexico come up intocalifornia, start picking the
crops.
They'd be picking the lettuce,they'd be picking the avocados,

(01:23:31):
they'd be picking whateverstrawberries, blah, blah, blah,
blah, blah, through six months,so from March, april, all the
way through to about September.
At the end of September, whatthey do?
They went home.
Cool, there you go.
I'm fine with that system Ifit's a card that says you come
in and you're able to work, andI have that card, I have a six

(01:23:53):
months.
I'm going home, I'm not comingin with my family, I'm not
bringing my kids up and puttingthem in the system If they get
hurt and they need to go to thehospital, I think, yes, you
still need to provide emergencycare and all that stuff.
Okay, but that's the differenceis we've?

(01:24:13):
changed Right and we've gotten,but that's not how it is now.
It did work.
It worked for decades.

Speaker 2 (01:24:20):
Oh, the card, oh the card.

Speaker 1 (01:24:22):
Is that what you said ?

Speaker 2 (01:24:23):
Well, you go back and you look at the sharecropping
system right After slavery.
We tried that whole.
We tried that whole.
We'll come in and work.
Sharecropping is very differentthough here's how it's not
different.
Right, because the arrangementwill say hey, you come in, you
work the fields, we'll pay you aportion of it.
Whatever sands, equipment orwhatever rent is right, but
without the protection.
And this is where you get intothat slippery slope.

(01:24:44):
Without the federal protection,you have organizations like the
KKK, the white supremacists orwhatever.
As those workers were cominginto work and leaving, they kept
disappearing and they ended uphanging in trees.
We've seen this work, we'veseen this process before.
That that was.
Protection is important.

Speaker 1 (01:25:04):
Fair, but it wasn't in the widespread numbers that
it was.
It was, it was shutting downthe whole.
The bigger problem with thesharecroppers was basically what
you had kind of with, like themining towns, right.
So you had the people that wantto go in and they want to work
these fields, and you would comein and say, okay, well, I'm

(01:25:24):
going to work this field becauseyou know the owner has this
land and you're supposed to giveme 50% of the pay.
But then they'd come in and say, okay, well, where's my 50% of
the crop?
And they say, well, you know,yeah, we sold it for a thousand
dollars, you're supposed to get500.
But well, you know, you use mytools and there's 50.

(01:25:45):
And while you were living onthe land, you ate this food and
it became a corporate town andthat was.
You didn't have that with themigrants in the same way.

Speaker 2 (01:25:54):
And what the enforcement, though?
What I'm saying is theenforcement is the same, because
when, when theAfrican-Americans would have
their disagreements, they willknow this is what the contract
says, this is what the papers Ihad yeah, nobody Right they
would use.
They would use, they would usethe local authorities to come in
and kidnap and harm those,those African-Americans.
That's what I'm saying there areyeah, the reason why, the

(01:26:17):
reason why people are saying hey, hey, hey, this is a bad idea,
this is a slippery slope, isbecause we've tried that before.
You know, we tried the wholefreedom papers thing right, we
tried that.
Hey, as long as you got yourpapers, you can move freely
throughout the country.

Speaker 1 (01:26:33):
Make sure you have your papers.

Speaker 2 (01:26:34):
I mean, you know, I just think okay it's
uncomfortable to tell you, butat the essence, at the of, the
essence of it all is, it's thebottom line is none of it
matters if you don't have afederal enforcement, if the
federal uh, if the federal localauthorities are working against
you, it doesn't matter whatpapers you have, because when
those african americans hadtheir freedom papers, those

(01:26:54):
papers would get ripped up bythose same authorities and sent
right back to the field.

Speaker 1 (01:27:00):
But I think we are.
So it is so difficult to me tocompare what happens in 2025
with what happened in 1955,right, or 1945 or 35, right.
1955, right or 1945 or 35,right.

(01:27:25):
And that's where I look and Isay, because you have the
technology, you have instantreporting, you have people
coming out and, yeah, you haveintimidation.
But you have intimidation bothways too, like you have for
every, for every boss.
Um, what was his name?
What was the sheriff's name inalabama that turned on the the
fire hydrants?
Boss, uh, oh, uh, it's not bosshog he was on the duke of the

(01:27:49):
hazard.

Speaker 2 (01:27:50):
No, no, no, I can't remember his name, but I know
what you're talking about.

Speaker 1 (01:27:54):
That was it okay?
No, yeah, it was sheriff.

Speaker 2 (01:27:56):
And then you had the governor, who was Right, right,
right, right.

Speaker 1 (01:27:59):
So what I'm saying is I think today, because you have
cell phones and because youhave instant communication,
we're just not in the samesituation.
Like I wanted to compare whatyou said about the.
You said that you compared theLA riots to the civil rights

(01:28:19):
marches that were going on inthe South, right?

Speaker 2 (01:28:21):
No, no, no no, no, oh , that wasn't you.
No, no, those are two totallydifferent things.

Speaker 1 (01:28:27):
Okay, somebody else was making that comparison and I
apologize if it was you.
Thad, I'd like to see someproof on that.
Um, uh, that, I'd like to seesome proof on that.
But because people godisappearing both sides all the
time whistleblowers against thegovernment and etc.

Speaker 2 (01:28:45):
Bull connor boss, I said boss instead of bull.

Speaker 1 (01:28:46):
Yeah, that's what threw it off.
So okay.
So I've seen this argument thenand I apologize that it wasn't
you that what's going on andlike in the marches, wasn't you
that what's going on in themarches in Los Angeles is like
what's going on in the South,and I think that is one of the
most lazy, ridiculouscomparisons, because what's
going on in Los Angeles is alevel of violence, a level of

(01:29:12):
coordinated attacks where thecivil rights was, hey, you know
what?
We are going to join arms andwe are going to very, very
specifically not be violent.
We are not going to attack thepolice, we are not going to go
against, we are going topassively resist.
Where what's going on, theresults were the same.

Speaker 2 (01:29:36):
So when you passively resist, here's the.
Here's the thing, though Peoplelike to skim over.
When you passively resist,right, because the civil rights
movement led by, led by Dr King,was all about nonviolence.
We're going to, we're going toexercise our right to peacefully
protest, yada, yada, yada.
And they got dogs sick on them,they got hoses turned on, they
got beaten across the head withnightstands.

(01:29:57):
The results are the same.
So, whether it's not a matterof whether you're protesting
peacefully or or angrily or,however, what matters is who.
What is the administrationgoing to allow?
Because, because the civilrights, the civil rights
movement did not change untilthe Kennedys were starting to
push it that way.

(01:30:17):
And then Lyndon Johnson got putin a foxhole, to where he was
like, well, shit, if I don't doit.

Speaker 1 (01:30:23):
Yeah, I can't win.

Speaker 2 (01:30:25):
So let me go ahead and sign it.
So it's not a matter of, youknow, peaceful protest or
non-peaceful protest.
It's a matter of what does theadministration?
How does that affect theadministration?

Speaker 1 (01:30:38):
But you're going in and you're doing these raids in
Los Angeles that everybody knowsare coming.
They've said look, you canreport yourself, We'll give you
$1,000 and a plane ticket to gohome.
So this is a very opportunisticway to leave the country.
This is not and that I'm notsaying that people don't die and

(01:31:04):
get killed.
I'm curious, like what was theyou're saying a cop killed these
two guys Shocking.
There are dirty cops out therewho knew guys.
Shocking.
There are dirty cops out therewho knew.
But you know in the LA, what'sgoing on in LA is you have these
guys going out and they'rebreaking up the bullards, so

(01:31:25):
they have rocks to throw at thepolice and they are going in and
they are surrounding andbreaking, Like one of the things
one of my friends said oh, it'sabout to get real, it's about
to get real in LA.
But then I read a reallyinteresting article that I
thought was really insightfulBecause it said the protesters

(01:31:55):
and the local police arebasically on the same side,
taking their cues from the samegroups.
So the higher up, let's say themayor of Los Angeles, who is a
communist like she's an actualcommunist she is telling the
police look, we need to showthat we're in charge of our city
.
Just not too hard.
But we support the protesters,Just don't hurt the cops.

(01:32:15):
So there's this kind of balancebetween the violence of the
LAPD and violence of theprotesters.
And hey, as long as nobody, aslong as nobody really gets out
of hand, we can make this, wecan make this, we can make this
happen that's ultimately howprotests are supposed to work.

Speaker 2 (01:32:37):
It's like, hey, I want to, I want to provide, I
want to protect your, your, your, you know your constitutional
right yes, protest oh sure, sametime I, as the chief
administrator of the city, I'mletting the police force know.
Hey, man, you have I got yourback, do what you have to do
what you have to do, but userestraint.
Use our rule, if you will.

Speaker 1 (01:32:59):
Yes, so yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:33:01):
So in that regard, administratively, that's the
right way to do it.

Speaker 1 (01:33:07):
But here's the wild card.
Now you have Trump and thefederal coming in, going we're
enforcing the law, we're goingto do it.
Hey, we've been saying we'regoing to do it.
That was bullshit.
That was absolute bullshit.
I I don't think it was.
What's funny about this is Ican't tell you how many memes

(01:33:28):
I've seen that basic and I'm allabout hey, you want to go
protest as long as there's nodestruction, and and again, as a
libertarian.
As a libertarian, your rightsstop where mine begin, right.
Did you see that video of the,the two white people who were
blocking traffic, and the what?

(01:33:48):
And the black moms like, hey, Ineed to get to work, I need to
provide?
And they start laughing.
You just, you want to go towork.
And it's like you, absoluteidiots.
You're these two leftist whitepeople and you're stopping a
person of color who wants to goprovide for their family.
Do you realize how stupid thislooks?

(01:34:09):
Look, I think if you block afreeway I'm with DeSantis you
block a freeway, you get runover.
I think if you're a motorist,you should be able to drive down
the street.
You drive down the street andsomebody jumps in front of your
car and you hit them.
In fact, the person who getshit.
Your insurance should cover mycar damage.

Speaker 2 (01:34:32):
If you are out protesting without the proper
permits and that's the nuance,right I don't even care.

Speaker 1 (01:34:37):
Permits Go down, stay on the sidewalk and so be it.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
Do you think you need a permit?
Do you think you should need apermit to protest?

Speaker 2 (01:34:47):
I don't think you need a permit to protest.
I also don't think you need apermit to hunt, fish or drive or
anything like that Agreed butlaws are what they are, and if
you register your protest, ifyou register your protest and
say, hey, we are protesting, wewill be in this street during
these hours, this is the waywe're protesting.
And a vehicle comes down andharms you, then I, at that point

(01:35:08):
, the protesters are in theright of way.
But if you just decide to be abunch of dummies who decide to
get on the freeway on a Tuesdayand protest because you're
pissed off, then the you know,then the person driving the
vehicle has every right to tellyou to get the hell off the
street because you're notsupposed to be there.
Right, there's a way that bothcan happen.
Yeah, you know, I'm sayingthere's, there's not a either or

(01:35:28):
there's a common sense way,like a lot of people like to go
back and they like to pick andchoose what to do in the 60s.
One thing that the marchers andthe organizers of the 1960s
civil rights movement wasprolific at is using the law to
their advantage, right.
So when those policemen wouldstop them from marching on the

(01:35:49):
streets, they were violating thelaw.
When those civilians werecounter, were counter protesting
and attacking those protestersfrom the 1960s, they were
violating the law.
What happens now is you got abunch of idiots who are out on
the street disorganized and justbecause they're in their
feelings, they want to decide,they want to go sit in front of

(01:36:09):
traffic and feel that they gotit right away and they're wrong.
So there's two ways that can bedone.
No, no, there aren't properpermits to walk on the street.
You're absolutely right.
The permit is to have agathering or use a march.
It's no different than if youwanted to go do a parade.
If you got a permit to do aparade, you will be marching

(01:36:32):
down the street, all right.
So I guess my biggest gripewith those guys in LA is not
necessarily the gripe in LA,because for the most part it's
BLM all over again.
You have those agitators who getin and their sole purpose,

(01:36:55):
regardless who hired them, theirsole purpose is to cause
disruption within a organization.
We've we've seen that time andtime again.
It's been proven.
You know, the government hasbeen known for the last 60, 70
years, since COINTELPRO, toinsert agitators into peaceful
organizations for the simpleright to make it look like you

(01:37:17):
know those guys are bad, yougood, yeah, keep going.
So, yeah, so it would notsurprise me, you know, if those
agitators were in, there, werein there, right.
Prime example, there were someveterans.
I don't know if you got achance to see it.
There were veterans who brokethe barricades at one of the

(01:37:38):
government buildings inWashington DC this week.
And the difference between whatthey did and what the January
6th's did is they did a sit-inprotest on the Capitol steps,
didn't go in, didn't do anything.
They did a sit-in Veterans, dida sit-in on the Capitol steps
to protest the use of veteransin the parade.

(01:38:00):
Do I agree with it?
No, but it was the right way todo it.
So it was a coordinated protestacross the country.
And here's the difference itwas a protest across the country
, but for the mass, for the.
The problem with, with with theprotest and how things are

(01:38:21):
running now is there's noorganization, right, you, you
can gather and you can have aprotest if you decide to stay on
the sidewalk.
But what you cannot do?
You cannot impede the flow oftraffic if you do not have the
permit.
Impede the flow of traffic ifyou do not have the permit.
That's the difference.
If you decide to stay on thesidewalks and you line every
sidewalk in America with signsor whatever, you are well within

(01:38:42):
your constitutional right.
The minute you step in a publicstreet and impede the traffic
or impede the right of way ofanother civilian, you are in
default.

Speaker 1 (01:38:51):
Yeah Right, and that's you don't have the permit
, and that's where Liberty, yeah.
And that's where Liberty sayingthere aren't permits to allow
you to stop traffic, yeah, andso.
And that's where, again, evenpermits and, like you said, laws
are laws, me personally I thinkit's kind of I know it's

(01:39:13):
constitutional because theSupreme Court has said
constitutional, ok I think it'sunconstitutional when they set
up these locations and say, hey,the president's going to be
speaking here, so here's thespeech area, you can go over
here and you can protest howeveryou want.

(01:39:35):
Want in this area.
I don't agree with that.
I personally think that, again,if, if it's in america, as long
as you're not impeding somebodyelse's rights, right, you
should be able to protest.
Now, again, there arelimitations to that because,
like, if you have who's mattwalsh, let's say Matt Walsh is

(01:39:57):
one of those conservative dudes,right.
If Matt Walsh gets invited,yeah.
If Matt Walsh gets invited tothe university of Michigan and
he has these protesters poppingup during his his talk and
shouting down so he can't havehis interactions, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:40:13):
Kick them out.

Speaker 1 (01:40:16):
That is not.
That is not okay form ofprotesting.
You want to be outside?
Okay, hey, you know what?
Go outside the building, do allthat.
But he and his team arrangedwith the university.
They were invited there, theywere brought on.
It's kind of like when Crowdergoes on, he gets the permits and
he goes on to the University ofTexas and he does my change of
mind thing and you have peopleout there shouting them down.

(01:40:37):
Well, ok, guess what?
They're in a public spot, soare you?
So they can yell at Crowder ifthey want to.
Sorry, you want to be insomewhere.
That's a little more.
You like that?
Yes, of course, that is, thatis one of my favorite.
So so, that's the thing is,when we're talking about these
protests, I again I'm fine.

(01:40:58):
I have stopped with.
I have stopped and talked topeople running protests before,
just to kind of.
There've been some that Ididn't know what they were.
It's like, hey, dude, what areyou protesting?
Oh, we're striking against theAT&T because they're not giving
us a fair wage.
I'm like, oh, okay, cool, leave, I've had ones.
I had a guy.
Now, this wasn't a protest, butI went to a BYU-TCU game Texas

(01:41:23):
Christian University, up inDallas.
It was a football game, andthis kid I was probably gosh.
When were we there?
That would have been 05,somewhere between 05 and 08,
because that's when I was instation at that part of Texas.
So we went up to the game andthis guy had a sign that said um

(01:41:43):
, joseph Smith is still a liarsomething like that, very
inflammatory towards my religion.
And I walked up to him and hisfriends and I took out my
military ID card.
I said hey, guys, I just wantto let you know I'm in the
military and I'm showing youthis because I will absolutely
defend your right to have thatsign that said you, as his

(01:42:05):
friends, should not let him makesuch an asshole of himself,
because this makes him look likean absolute bigot towards me
and my religion.
You have the right to do it,but you shouldn't.
That's all I said, and I walkedaway.
You know I shared what Ithought.

(01:42:25):
I now, now you.
We are now, though, in a we'renow in an environment that it
would now be hey, turn on yourphone, watch this.
And I walked over to that guyand said hey, that sign that's a
total load of crap youshouldn't have and rip it away
from it.

(01:42:47):
We're getting, and now we'regoing to try to get, we're going
to try to make that to go viralinstead of having no, no.
Again you could argue and saywell, you know, chaplain, you
didn't need to go over and evensay that in the first place.
It's like you're right.
But you know, at the same timeI'm you didn't need to go over
and even say that in the firstplace.
It's like you're right.
But you know, at the same timeI'm feeling like I need to go
defend my faith and say that.
You know, a little plug herethis Friday we teased this a

(01:43:11):
couple weeks ago I'm going to bedebating Andrew Wilson.
You may know Andrew Wilson fromthe Whatever podcast.
He's the guy who is kind ofalways off and he's got the
cigarette and he's always beingreally snarky to the girls.
Oh, you're just Annie.
Oh wait, you think you're a 10.
Ah, you know that guy, so it'spretty funny.

(01:43:31):
His podcast is Crucible.
I'm going to be debating himand here's this Friday.
I think that's going to pop upyeah, it just popped up.
Yeah, and so we'll go show.
So there it goes.
So this Friday and I think I'mgoing to be it's going to be
moderated by a woman named Sarahthe Raging Tomato.

(01:43:57):
That's her website, and we aregoing to broadcast it here at
the same time.

Speaker 2 (01:44:04):
So if you, want to watch that?
Yes, we're going to simulcastit.

Speaker 1 (01:44:06):
Simulcast it.
Yeah, so this is the type ofthing I'm talking about.
Like, again, you have the rightto say what you want to say.
Now, there are limits in termsof you can't make threats, you
can't yell a movie in a crowdedfirehouse, things like that.
There you go.

(01:44:30):
That's an old Steve Martin joke.
That joke's from the 70s,that's how old that joke is.
Absolutely stolen from SteveMartin.
But but you know, like you and Ihave talked about this, should
I have the right to say the Nword?
Yes, now, now, should I expectcertain consequences if I use

(01:44:52):
the N word in certain contexts?
Yes, as well, you and I have,you and I a couple of years ago,
well, you and I have, you and I.
A couple of years ago, we weretalking, I told you a story
about when I was eight years oldand using the N-word, and I
said hey, you know, if I tellthis story, what do you think?
And you said you know what?
I'm going to give you a passtoo, because it adds, it makes

(01:45:14):
the story much more visceral.
Yeah, and so in that situation,I used the N-wordword only
because kj, as a representativeof all black people in this
country, as we've talked aboutpreviously said that I should be
able to right, but then you seethese videos like.
One of my favorite videos isthat, uh, the video where the
white guy keeps saying to theyou know, hey, you and, and, and

(01:45:36):
, and and.
It's in the convenience storeand the guy hits him with the.
What is it the crazy?
The iced tea, the iced tea.
Boom and I sit there and I gookay, by law the black guy
probably should be arrested forassault, but by common sense

(01:45:58):
that white dude had it coming.
That's, yeah, so Twisted.

Speaker 2 (01:46:04):
Tea.
Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 1 (01:46:06):
I'm glad Thad's on tonight because we keep it in
roadblocks and Thad's, like Igot you, he's working for Deuce.
I got to throw him a littleMoscow and the Hudson.
Two cents.
Tell you what Thad we are goingto give you every penny we earn
from today's broadcast.
You can look for about twocents coming to your Venmo.
But let's see, what about thecontest of singing hip hop?

(01:46:33):
I'll bring it back up.
Oh argument Military I had agroup of soldiers who was they
were coming into for a wholenother conversation and we were,
we were talking and because I'ma chaplain and a lot of the

(01:46:55):
people I dealt with were introuble because of sharp and EO.
Sharp is sexual harassment,rape prevention, eo is equal
opportunity, right.
And so I was saying, look, ifyou guys need to go report
somebody for Sharpen EO, youshould absolutely do it, but
let's make sure that you're notweaponizing these things, okay,
because if you get hit with aninvestigation in AIT, I know

(01:47:17):
kids that were there for over ayear for an investigation on
things that were stupid, right.
And I said, for example, andthis is right to the point,
let's say I call KJ, the N-wordIs that an EO complaint.
Raise your hand if.
And everybody's hands went up,right, kj is an NCO in the front

(01:47:38):
row, you know.
And I said okay.
So what about if I'm in mybarracks room and you're walking
by and you hear me say theN-word is that an EO complaint?
And they kind of about half thehands kind of went up and yeah,
I said okay.
So let's say, now you come intomy room and I'm at my desk and I

(01:48:00):
have my headphones on and I'mjust singing along with Jay-Z.
Is that an EO complaint?
And everybody kind of went, ohno, probably not.
I said okay, and then this iswhat got me in trouble.
This is what got.
At least part of the complaintwas I said, but let's be real, I
would probably be listening toEminem.

(01:48:21):
So somebody actually twistedthat.
Somebody actually twisted thatand went.
The NCO actually went andcomplained to my command that I
had said this, which the whole,the whole thing I was telling
these guys was keep it at thelowest level, like if you had a
problem with what I said, comeand talk to me.
If you have a problem withanother soldier, go and talk to

(01:48:42):
them.
So when you're talking aboutthese things, that I am old

(01:49:04):
enough that the first rappersthat I got into were NWA,
because my best friend in thelate eighties, uh, his dad, had
brought him up from Compton.
His dad, my buddy Eric, uhwanted, his dad, douglas, wanted
to get them out of LA with allthe, all the stuff that was
going on in big, you know, a lotof the gangs and the drugs.
So he brought them up to SaltLake.
He was in my school.
We became very, very goodfriends and I had the car and he
didn't, so we'd drive aroundand he would pop in NWA.

(01:49:26):
I can sing.
I'm trying to remember what itwas from.
America's Most Wanted, iceCube's.
America's Most Wanted, thenursery rhyme, the ghetto
nursery rhyme.
Boys and girls, they all loveme.
Come sit on the lap of Icy andlet me tell you a story too,
about a punk nigga named Jack.
Wasn't that nimble, wasn't thatJack?

(01:49:46):
Anyway, I think I might haveactually missed some which were
I was listening to NWA.
I'm glad, yeah, so that was whoI used to listen.
I'm not a big fan of rap now.
I do like some Eminem here andthere.

(01:50:07):
But I tell you what.
The rappers I like are the onesthat I can understand what
they're saying.
So most of the rappers if Ican't understand what they're
saying, like Snoop, hey, it'sreal easy to listen to Snoop
because you hear exactly whathe's saying.
He's very mellow.
But again back to the N-word.
Don't use the N-word, boys andgirls, if you don't want to get

(01:50:29):
punched in the mouth.

Speaker 2 (01:50:34):
Yeah, man, yeah, we can't sing NWA on the show.

Speaker 1 (01:50:41):
Well, not certain parts of it at least.

Speaker 2 (01:50:44):
Yeah, so I mean, it's all context matters, right, as
America continues to intertwineand our cultures continue to be
you know, one of many rightDiversified.
It's a melting pot for a reason, right?
Yeah, those words don't holdthe weight in certain contexts,

(01:51:05):
like you still have sometraditionalists who like to
throw that n-word around as anoffensive in an offensive manner
.
Yeah, it is, yeah, yeah hard areyeah hard are people talk to
you, talk to most.
You talk to most gen alphasright now it it's so ingrained
in music and hip hop it's like,oh you know, and this and that,

(01:51:25):
and I'm like bro, I'm like bro,I'm like come here, oh, the
middle school I was in.

Speaker 1 (01:51:32):
So for the last week I finally got approval to get
into the school as part of theretirement plan.
I was in a middle school.
They ended up putting me justas a hall monitor.
The retirement plan.
I was in a middle school.
At home, they ended up puttingme just as a hall monitor.
Oh my gosh, the language ofthese.
And I was in the sixth grade.
The eighth graders weren't toobad.

Speaker 2 (01:51:51):
The sixth graders were the ones who were sweat
some of the stuff they weresaying now and and that back me
up as a writer the the beauty,the reason why I got into
writing is because I lovelanguage and the way language
transforms right when you hearthese gen a's use that word.

(01:52:12):
They use it in it as a term ofbrotherhood, like for them it's
like oh, you know my, my soul isso my soul.
So they never they.
It never clicked in their mindthat this was a negative
connotation.
You know what I'm saying White,black, blue, purple.
If you're in Gen A, you knowwhat I'm saying.
And I grow up oh, it's all man,you know that's my, you know

(01:52:32):
that's my, and you'd be like bro, hey, come on, young man, I
hear what you're saying and Iknow what you're saying, but let
me, let me talk to you.
You know what I'm saying, butthat word has evolved.
But what you're going to haveis you're going to have, and
that's why.
That's why racism is so fickle.
Right, because the Englishlanguage is evolving to a point
to where that word doesn't meanwhat you think it is Right.

(01:52:54):
So, people in our generation,when we hear that N-word, it is
still inherently offensive.
It's hard R almost all the timeyeah, the reaction is hard R,
but for Gen Alpha it's like yobro, that's my brother.

Speaker 1 (01:53:11):
That's my boy.

Speaker 2 (01:53:12):
That's my partner, that's my Him and I are the same
, we both n-words.
You'd be like you shouldprobably go out and let your
grand, let him, teach you alittle something.
But that's why I love thebeauty of the language.
And I think, in a generation ortwo, that word as we continue
to come, and that's that's.
That's where we have that.

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That's where we have that, thatset of idealists who want to
hold on to those traditionalvalues.
Right, they want to be able touse.
They want to be able to say,okay, well, that's a.
You know that's N-word, youknow it.
I give you.
I give you another exampleright, when, the last time have

(01:53:54):
you ever heard somebody call awhite person honky or something
like that?
Right, it, it, it, culturally,it died off, you know what I'm
saying and eventually the N wordwill do the same With Gen.

Speaker 1 (01:54:06):
A.
When Gen A starts having kids,they're going to be.

Speaker 2 (01:54:08):
So here's my question , Liberty.

Speaker 1 (01:54:11):
Why would you want to say it?
Well, he's just saying thathe's just singing a song.

Speaker 2 (01:54:15):
Yeah, if he was singing a song and in context,
then you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:54:22):
Well.

Speaker 2 (01:54:22):
KJ.
Let me Prime example if youwere in a church, right, if you
were in a church, we all curse.
Oh yeah, if you were in achurch, right.

Speaker 1 (01:54:29):
I think I know where we're going to go.

Speaker 2 (01:54:36):
Do you think the parishioners in that church will
be okay with me getting on themic?
I want to give glory to MNF andGod, and you know that SOP.
Yeah yeah, jesus, you know whatI'm saying.
Context matters, jesus is theeffing best.
So, yes, yeah, some things.
You can say what you want tosay but you got to understand.

Speaker 1 (01:54:54):
Right, but I think that in this situation that
Libby is pointing out, I thinkthat in this situation that
Liberty is pointing out, it'skind of like a couple of years
ago there was a very similarthing, where one of the black
rappers pulled up a kid out ofthe audience and was having them
sing along and then, when thekids sang the words along, the

(01:55:16):
whole crowd started booing himand the rapper turned on him
like how dare you?
It was like you pulled thiswhite kid out of the crowd to
start singing along with you.
What do you expect, Again, Imean yeah, I mean again I get
pulled up to sing with Ice Cube.
I'm self-censoring regardless.

Speaker 2 (01:55:35):
You have to have that .
You have to have that, but likeyou.

Speaker 1 (01:55:37):
But what you just said, though, jene, that's very
different, though Right, so youhave.
So there are some.
I remember the story back inthe day when Marion Barry was
the was the mayor of ofWashington the comeback kid
himself but one of his aides gotfired because they were talking
about the budget, right, and hesaid you know, the governor is

(01:55:59):
very niggardly when it comes tothe budget and he's very aware
the dude had to resign.
The word niggardly means to bemiserly or carefully, to deal
carefully with money niggardly.
It has nothing to do with then-word of derogatory fame, and
that's where, like now, I don'tthink you would necessarily get

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that today, but at the same time, you know, like Liberty points
out, you have a kid that couldpotentially lose a scholarship
for saying the N-word.

Speaker 2 (01:56:32):
But if he's singing?
Was that word necessary in thatpress conference?
Was the word niggerly necessaryin that press?

Speaker 1 (01:56:41):
conference.
But what did you just say?

Speaker 2 (01:56:43):
you just said the words matter, right, he's using
the right word right word, wrongaudience yeah, I guess, but I
mean, if you're if you're in acorporate environment right, if
you're in a corporateenvironment, right and you go in
there liberty's arguing,liberty's arguing.

Speaker 1 (01:57:00):
Drop of, uh, drop of blood, that's, that's also,
that's civil war level ofarguments it's one of those
things, right, you know, I meanI, I appreciate that liberty I I
I appreciate what you're, whatyou wrote there yeah, I mean, it
truly is right word, wrongaudience right, yeah you, you,

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if, if I am on the campus of anhbcu, you know, I'm saying, and
I am a caucasian guy, yeah nomatter how much I am ingrained
into the society or the system.

Speaker 2 (01:57:34):
I have to be aware of my surroundings and understand
that not everybody is accepting,you know what I'm.

Speaker 1 (01:57:41):
Yeah, but this guy was talking in a budget meeting
to reporters who thought I'mgoing to use the proper word
here when it comes togovernmental funds.

Speaker 2 (01:57:52):
Yeah, right word, wrong audience.

Speaker 1 (01:57:54):
Well, that means there's no ever right audience
for that word, then Is that theargument?

Speaker 2 (01:58:00):
Well, I mean there's.
Well, I mean it's up to you, itreally is, it's, it's.
You have to be aware that.
You have to be aware that I canuse the exact right word, right
for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:58:11):
So it can just say, right, oh, go with, it, go with
it.

Speaker 2 (01:58:16):
Oh, if a female exchanges money for for sex,
right, if a few.
If, if a man exchanges moneywith a female for sex, right.
We have so many words that wecan use for that, right?
Yes, in context, we're notallowed to use those words in
certain spaces, right?

Speaker 1 (01:58:37):
Such as Like what you can't use prostitute, what in
church it's in the Bible.

Speaker 2 (01:58:45):
Yeah, of course it's in the Bible, but that doesn't
mean that doesn't mean you couldbe up there talking about yeah.
So I was with a prostitute lastnight and we had a great time.

Speaker 1 (01:58:54):
Oh, so if you're in church, so if you're in church
and you say I was with the ladyof the night.
That's going to go over better.
It's not what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:58:59):
A lady of the night that's going to go over better.
What I'm saying is the rightword, wrong audience.

Speaker 1 (01:59:06):
I don't think it's ever the right time to be
announcing that you were with aprostitute in church.

Speaker 2 (01:59:08):
I don't know where you.
It's the right word, wrongaudience.

Speaker 1 (01:59:12):
There's nothing wrong with it, but it's never the
right audience to be saying that.

Speaker 2 (01:59:16):
Well, again, when is the right time to use the word
in with a hard R?
When is the right?

Speaker 1 (01:59:21):
time I do have a question for this, then Okay,
this is a very legitimatequestion that I would like
answered.
Yeah, you're in a high schoolhistory class.

Speaker 2 (01:59:35):
Yeah, oh, that's a great question.

Speaker 1 (01:59:37):
Great question, okay, and you are quoting Malcolm X.
Do you, as a white schoolteacher, do you quote Malcolm X?
Do you censor yourself or doyou have one of the black
students say it?

Speaker 2 (01:59:55):
Great question.

Speaker 1 (01:59:56):
Great question Because I'm not saying it, I'm
not as a history teacher.
My point is to say malcolm x orfrederick douglas or, I don't
think, martin luther king.
I'm pretty sure he avoided.
I think he really did not like,at least not in public at least
not in public oh yeah, yeah, Iguess it's some of the taste

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some of the taste.

Speaker 2 (02:00:18):
but he was yeah, yeah in.
I guess in some of the tapesthere's some FBI tapes where the
Reverend let loose yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:00:24):
In public.
He was also very loyal to hiswife.
But yeah, so that, even goingback to the book, banning stuff
of To Kill a Mockingbird or HuckFinn, Like one of the things
about Huck Finn that drives mebonkers about Huck Finn and the

(02:00:47):
N-word, is that one of thethings that Mark Twain does in
Huck Finn is that I guess youcould do that, but then you
still have.

Speaker 2 (02:01:00):
Even that is still wrong, because now you're
violating district policy.

Speaker 1 (02:01:04):
Now I'm with Liberty, that is absolutely absurd, I
agree.
So.
So one of the one of the one ofthe most important parts of the
book of Huckleberry Finn, atthe beginning of the journey,
continually refers to Jim asN-word Jim, n-word, n-word.

(02:01:26):
There you go, thank you, n-wordJim.
I'm still going to say it likethat, right.

Speaker 2 (02:01:37):
By the end of the book.
What is he calling him?
He called him my friend.

Speaker 1 (02:01:40):
He called him Jim, just started calling him Jim.
It was just Jim, this is jim.
That was the new, that's,that's like the central theme of
the book of this young, of thisyoung man.
Yes, but to say, now we'regoing, you can't even read this

(02:02:00):
book in school, because it hasthis magic word in it that kids
can't handle reading it.
But what did you just say, kj?
You walk down any school andyou see two young black men
together, in military school,whatever, and they have no
problem calling themselves.

Speaker 2 (02:02:21):
The cool thing about it is yeah, yeah, the cool
things about it is I haven'teven.
I've seen I've seen a group ofcaucasian men calling each other
the n-word and I'm just sittingback like all right.
This is bizarre work that's,that's.
That's a little bridge too farbut then again, these are 19
year old you know.

Speaker 1 (02:02:39):
Oh, I feel what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (02:02:42):
I'm like hey, bro, y'all good.
Oh yeah, we straight Don't tripman.
We don't mean it like that.
It's different.
Hold tight.
Okay, let me teach you thenuance of that.
You know what I'm saying, I getwhat you're saying and I'm
going to let you know.
I hear you, but everybody mightnot be as welcoming and
accepting of that.

Speaker 1 (02:03:01):
Especially Well.
Ok, so let me ask you this, kj,then, about that specific
information or situation, Wasyour advice?
Guys, it's probably not OK foryou guys to be using that word
because you're white in general,for you guys to be using that

(02:03:22):
word because you're white ingeneral.
B, you should probably only usethat when you're in private
between yourselves and you knowit's OK.
What's your advice to those two?

Speaker 2 (02:03:31):
Because my advice and your advice I don't know if
it's the same yeah, no.
So my advice was like, myadvice was be aware of your
surroundings.
You know, if you, if you'recomfortable using that word,
understand not everyone is goingto be accepting of you using
that word.
That's it.
I'm just giving you awareness,like, yeah, I, the word itself
holds no weight for me.

Speaker 1 (02:03:49):
But again, it holds but it holds weight for me If I
say exactly what I'm saying ispersonal.

Speaker 2 (02:03:56):
The personal views vary, yeah, person to person.
The personal views vary, yeah,person to person.
Right Another black personcould come down the street.
Could have came down thatstreet, heard them, young white
men, saying it, and it couldhave been a whole different.
You know a whole different.
Yeah, you know what I'm sayingand there's there's no right or
wrong to it, because that's justthat's.
That that's the cause and theeffect of that word being in our

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vernacular, that word being inour vernacular.

Speaker 1 (02:04:18):
And that's the funny thing is to me, because those
two young men I would have saiddude, even when you two are in
private, you need to come upwith a better word than that.
It's just because because youstart falling in that habit and
it just yeah, it comes out andit's yeah, it's, it's just it's.
There's certain words that arejust do you remember the South

(02:04:43):
Park episode where they set therecord for curse words?

Speaker 2 (02:04:47):
It was the word shit, it was shit, oh shit, yeah,
yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:04:51):
And the joke was, by the end it was a curse word, a
curse meaning to put a magiccurse or it would cause a curse
of evil.
And so actually you know, itreleased Satan and it released
the demons because it was acurse word.
And so there are certain wordsthat are just not generally

(02:05:14):
acceptable and of course itdepends on where you are.
Like the C word in America.
You don't call a woman a C wordin America, but in England
that's kind of like just acommon.
Yeah, it's on where you are.
Like the C word in America youdon't call a woman a C word in
America, but in England that'skind of like just a common, yeah
, yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:05:27):
Right.
So you're talking about cursewords, right?
You don't curse everywhere,right?
Right, for sure, even thoughit's generalistic, you don't
curse everywhere.
There's just some places whereyou know I can't use these words
.
Right.
To me, the N-word is nodifferent than a curse word.
You just don't use it every way, right?
Oh?

Speaker 1 (02:05:46):
you took it down.
Hold on, oh, I took it down.
Hey.
So, liberty, you make a greatpoint.
I saw a comedian talk aboutthis and he said I find it
really interesting that this wasa couple years ago ago there
was a debate about the song baby, it's cold outside, which is a
christmas song, and if you knowthat song, hey I really can't

(02:06:17):
song.
You know it's, it's kind of achristmasy song.
Hey, come on, stay baby.
Hey, why don't we?
You know, come on, let's, we'recomfortable by the fire?
You don't really.
It's cold outside and it gotturned into, you know, the.
The feminist movement said thisis a rape song right meanwhile.
And then he went from that andsaid here's the lyrics to the

(02:06:37):
number one song in America rightnow, by whoever say the
stallion, whatever, yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:06:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:06:45):
Megan the stallion and he started reading the
lyrics to WAP and it was likethe disconnect between this
lighthearted hey, you know what,I think you're sweet, I think
we should stay together.
I kind of dig you girl.

(02:07:06):
It's hey, any excuse to makeyou have you stay a little bit
longer.
I'd really appreciate itBecause, hey, I think you're
cute and I think we havesomething going and that's
somehow a rape culture where wetass P word.
See, I don't even know Againcontext, but my kids might watch

(02:07:26):
this so I try not to swear toomuch.
You know, dirty Like my kidsthey run around saying oh the
dog farted.
I'm like no, they tooted.
Let's not be crude or fluffyFor the bluey crowd fluffy.

Speaker 2 (02:07:40):
I don't curse in front of my mother.
I'm a 40-something-year-old manand I refuse to do it because
it's context.

Speaker 1 (02:07:46):
Yeah, I'm not sure I've ever sworn in front of my
mom.

Speaker 2 (02:07:49):
I cannot bring myself to curse in front of my mother.

Speaker 1 (02:07:51):
I can tell you, the first time I ever swore at my
dad, though, because I bolted assoon as I did it, I dropped the
F-bomb and I was out the door,right, I was at the bottom of,
oh, I was at the bottom of thestairs when I said it, and I
said it and I I immediatelyvamoosed.
I was gone for two hours beforeI was out, for two hours before

(02:08:14):
I, before I deigned, and I tellyou, my dad, like a trooper,
didn't say anything about it,basically said you're not going
to do that again, are you?
And that was it.
I was like nope, I don't thinkI ever swore at my dad again.

Speaker 2 (02:08:26):
Liberty, my thing is music.

Speaker 1 (02:08:27):
Yeah, they sing along with it, yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:08:33):
But again, we can't pretend like this is new, this
is.

Speaker 1 (02:08:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:08:36):
Hell man, you know we will.
I know I was coming up in thesouth in the 90s to live.
Are you kidding?

Speaker 1 (02:08:43):
me, oh my gosh, oh, so I will make a.
I brought this up.

Speaker 2 (02:08:55):
Who am I to sit back and say now, as a 40 year old
man, all those lyrics, thoseyoung men?
And it's the same thing withjazz.
When jazz kind of took over inthe early, early night, early
20th century, everybody was like, oh, it's devil's music, it's
making women want to toleratethis, that and the other.
Like, this is nothing new.
This is society.
Society is what it is.
We've always been raunchy.
It's just it's never been, it'snever been as prevalent or in

(02:09:17):
our face.

Speaker 1 (02:09:18):
Yeah, yes, and that's , and that was the point I was.
I was just about to make Umthere, there, there was a
Madonna.

Speaker 2 (02:09:28):
I could play some blue songs for you from the
1920s that were.
You know, if not, if not as asraunchy as WAP it was, it's
pretty damn close.
I mean, you had Madonna,madonna.
Was she almost got hung at thestake?

Speaker 1 (02:09:43):
That's who I was just about to say.
Um, I, I was listening to and Ido not like Madonna.
I'll tell you right now, I'mnot a fan of Madonna at all and
I I got stuck on somehow.
I was, um, flipping thechannels and and, and I don't, I
think it's where I was.
It was the only station thatcame in and I started listening

(02:10:09):
to the lyrics and it might'vebeen borderline, I think, but
whatever song it was, I startedlistening to it and I was like
this whole song is about havingsex.
It had never dawned on me.
I didn't, because I don'treally listen, but the whole
every give me all of your.

(02:10:30):
You know, whatever the song was, and I was just listening to it
going, how did I, oh my gosh.
And then my hairdresser.
She was talking about likeHarper County PTA.
Now, I'm not a country guy, Ibarely know the song, but I
guess because she was telling methe song is about she's there
at the PTA meeting and they'redressing her down for her, how

(02:10:53):
she's not a good parent orsomething, but then she's
repeating back to them thattheir, their husbands, are out
cheating on them on the weekend.
So she's throwing the shaderight back.
So, yeah.
So some of the songs and allthat stuff, yeah, I get it, but
at the same time, again I think,there is unfortunately a

(02:11:17):
loosening of the language, thatwords pretty much go and you
don't.
I've made this argument a fewtimes.
It was the wrong messenger.
Now it was the wrong messenger,but it was the right message.
And this it was.
Bill Cosby in the late ninetiesbasically said look, as the
black community, we need to haveour kids pulling their pants up

(02:11:41):
, being respectful and speakingproper English.
And he just got killed by theblack community right for saying
that.
And now you look at, and itdoesn't matter if it's the black
community or the whitecommunity or whatever, we have
let pretty much all of ourstandards go In lots oh, you

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don't think so.

Speaker 2 (02:12:02):
We have let pretty much all of our standards go in
lots?
Oh, you don't think so?
Well, I'll give you a point.
It's more.
There's a line of liberationand then there is a line of and
I hate to use that word, but itis a line of you know that
macho-ism, right, you think backin the 60s, marilyn Monroe

(02:12:28):
wasn't beloved because she wasmodest.
Marilyn Monroe was not lovedbecause she was a conservative
prostitution.
If people were, if people werestaunch supporters of modesty,
prostitution would have died along time ago.
People don't go to strip clubsbecause women are modest, right?
True, there is a there is a?

Speaker 1 (02:12:45):
I don't think so.
I don't.
I don't go to strip clubs, soI'll take your word for it.

Speaker 2 (02:12:49):
But what I'm saying is there is a level of there.
People love sex, and there'snothing wrong with that, right?

Speaker 1 (02:12:55):
So, katie, I'm not but I'm not only talking.
I'm talking more like whatLiberty is putting here.
It's not just about the moralissue.
The English language hasdegraded Math.
We went, I saw something thatwas really interesting.
It was talking about math, how,over the last century, we went
from it was a math program, amath problem, and it said it was

(02:13:21):
like a square.
And then it had a couple ofthings cut out of it and it said
you know, define the area inthis.
And then it was, then it was ashow what the area of this and
this is.
And then it was what's thisrectangle?
And then so basically it was adegradation of actually having
to critically think what thismath problem was, to figure out

(02:13:43):
the area of the space all theway down to it's now A, b, c or
D.
You know, you don't even have to, you just have a, you can guess
.
And they've dumbed it down somuch that if you don't get this
right, you're really I mean,functionally retarded.
Well, heck, even meanfunctionally retarded, um, well,

(02:14:04):
heck, even that functionallyretarded, you can't, you're not
even supposed to say retardedanymore, even though that's the
correct word, like to me, thatis.
That is the correct word, right?
Yeah, well, it can be the rightwell, it's if you're calling.
if you're called, calling it'snot.
But that's again.
Functionally retarded means youare not able to function at an

(02:14:25):
appropriate level within a givenwithin the society.
Right, and that's verydifferent than me saying, oh,
you're just a giant retard.
You and I grew up when it waslike, oh, dude, just stop being
gay, stop being so gay, orthat's okay, it didn't have
anything to do withhomosexuality.
Oh man, stop being a fag.

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Oh, you're just just stop beinga gay fag.

Speaker 2 (02:14:49):
It's like, dude, that had nothing to do with
homosexuality in the 60s, well,in the 20s, say it, tell
somebody you were going to givethem some straight dick was to
say I'm giving you straight,talk, going to give him some
straight dick was to say I'mgiving you straight talk, Right?

Speaker 1 (02:15:02):
I haven't heard that one.
That's a new one for me.

Speaker 2 (02:15:03):
I actually learned it in a Superman comic.

Speaker 1 (02:15:05):
Oh yeah, but the point I'm making is you think
anybody named Richard right nowis getting nicknamed dick.

Speaker 2 (02:15:13):
Absolutely not.
But again, that's what I'msaying.
It evolves Liberty.
To your point about standardEnglish we never required
standard English.

Speaker 1 (02:15:26):
If that was the case, we'd be talking the Queen's
English.
We've always had a.
We've always had Me think youare Me think you are correct.
We should return to the properway.

Speaker 2 (02:15:31):
A different dialect of English and that that doesn't
.
Yeah, you know, grammar rulesare what they are.
It's society, right?
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (02:15:44):
And we're going to talk about this in some time.
Coming up, there's one of ourhopefully our guests, if our
guests ever start showing up.
We've had like I think we'vehad like five scheduled.
We're batting 400 right now,which is great for baseball, not
so much for podcasts, but shewants to talk and and, uh, she's

(02:16:04):
a school teacher and and thebook is called she wants to
really discuss anti-intellectualin america.
And I actually read the book.
I thought it was, I thought itwas interesting because they're
so she.
The book places, uh, thedegradation of education in
america in a lot of differentplaces and intellectualism not
just in one place.

Speaker 2 (02:16:22):
So, yeah, I know what you're talking about.
Yeah, yeah, so there's a goodyeah.

Speaker 1 (02:16:26):
If, like I said, if she shows up, so yeah there.
Well, liberty, I mean right now.
I asked a kid what does Finnamean?
Now, I know, I know in context,I'm finna go to and I was like
where does that come from?
Like I'm I'm fixing to, I'mfinna, I'm going to, I guess
it's I'm fixing to I, and itturned into that's you know, I'm

(02:16:48):
going to, I'm finna, go getsome food yeah, it just kept
getting.

Speaker 2 (02:16:52):
I mean, but yeah, yeah, and look back over the
evolution of language, right.
So you had the northern states,who were always considered the
English standard, and you hadthe southern half of the country
that was considered, in essence, country bumping, right?
So that's where you had thatcountry slang, that vernacular,
and it just all blended together.

(02:17:14):
No, you're not.
You're not.
You're not because the standardof English has always been what
society allows.
You know, for a very long timethey even tried to coin the
phrase ebonics for a while,right, and that was the big

(02:17:34):
thing.
Oh, ebonics, ebonics, ebonics,ebonics, ebonics.
Until it became culturallyrelevant.
And then everybody was like,okay, well, cool.

Speaker 1 (02:17:42):
Okay, so this is what I saw.
This is what I saw in thejunior high school.
That was the prompt at end ofthe year up on a poster board.
Let me put it back up.
You got it.
I'm going to put it back upfirst.
Okay, and dude, you keeppopping the next one up.
No, no, yeah, go ahead, I'm putit back up.
You got it.

Speaker 2 (02:18:02):
I'm going to put it back up first.
Okay, and dude, you keeppopping the next one up.
No, no, yeah, go ahead.
I'm putting it back up, goahead.

Speaker 1 (02:18:06):
Mr Johnson, be like.
This was in the eighth gradehallway and I said to one of the
other teachers I was like,we're in a school, is this like?
Is this really what should be?
Is this really what should be?
And the argument was well, yougot to meet them where they are.

(02:18:27):
So, liberty, I'm with you.
I think that when you're in theschool environment, we should be
making corrections to language.
However, we're also in anenvironment where if a child,
especially in socioeconomicchallenged areas, were to say

(02:18:50):
something like, let's say itmade a correction, okay, there's
I, I got, uh, I got lots of,I've got many dirt.
I've got many dirt in my hand.
And somebody go dude, that'snot how you say it.

(02:19:11):
You say lots.
If you can't count, it, it'slots, and if it's you can count,
it's many.
You got many jelly beans.
You know how hard that kid wouldget teased for making the
proper correction.
You know, weird Al did thatentire song about grammatical
errors and it was a big hitbecause people of our generation

(02:19:36):
say we understand some of those.
But you have people who don'tknow the difference between
there, there and there.
They, they literally do nothave the right conjunctions,
they don't know the right words.
They don't know verbs, adverbs,and that's where I'm saying the
degradation of of the countryand of the education system.
I think if something's gonnareally end America, it's

(02:19:59):
probably that, because idiocracyis the ultimate end game for us
.

Speaker 2 (02:20:04):
Yeah, education overall.
But but I want to Liberty'spoint.
Yeah, we sure we can, but right, we don't, we don't hold as an
employer.
As an employer, you can say, ohwell, yeah well, someone's not
speaking proper English.
You know this, that and theother Right, so would you?
Would you take a Harvardgraduate from Boston who uses
the word wicked?
Would you look at themdifferent If they say, oh, I got

(02:20:25):
a wicked, you know a wickedbone, or whatever?
Oh, I had a wicked weekend,right?
So those dialects, when we dothose things like that, that
tends to lean heavier towarddisenfranchised minorities,
right, I remember in the early90s.
In the early 90s they had thisthing out West called Valley
slang, right, valley girls.

Speaker 1 (02:20:47):
Valley girls.
Oh yeah, gag me with a spoon.
There was a whole song on it,yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:20:53):
Absolutely horrible.

Speaker 1 (02:20:54):
Frank Zappa.

Speaker 2 (02:20:55):
Right, but that that was not, that was not considered
improper, nor was thatconsidered, you know, a lack of
ignorance.
That was just a culturaldeviant from what standard
English is.
So what I'm saying is so.
What I'm saying is, when we dothings like that, when we do
things like that, we got to becognizant of where that all

(02:21:15):
coming from.
We got to be cognizant of where, where's that coming from?
Right?
So yeah, and then, even if you,even in your conversations,
liberty daily, you don't speakor at least I will tell you,
99.98 of the american populationdoes not speak anywhere close
to a proficient level of properenglish in their day-to-day

(02:21:39):
conversations, there is probably, I guess, it depends.

Speaker 1 (02:21:44):
I guess it depends on what, Like you and I, though,
like during our conversation.
What percentage would you sayduring an average podcast?
What level of Englishproficiency do we use, Because
I'd like to think we're prettyhigh.

Speaker 2 (02:22:02):
Probably anywhere.
I'd say 60, 70 percent maybe.

Speaker 1 (02:22:06):
So what you're saying is I'm at 100 percent and
you're at 30 percent.
You're just absolutely killingthe average.
That's what I'm hearing,probably.

Speaker 2 (02:22:11):
Yeah, probably that's my southern twang man.
I will never apologize.
Never apologize for my southerntwang.

Speaker 1 (02:22:19):
No, but I mean like, do I wish?
Do I do?
I wish we all sounded likeWinchester on MASH?
Yes, the guy had an awesomeaccent and his accent was fake.
That's not what the guy reallysounded like.
Yeah, yeah, I think that,liberty, I get your point and

(02:22:40):
tell me if I'm wrong, but Ithink liberty, I think what
liberty is saying is if we don'tcorrect kids in real world,
like for a job interview, ithurts them because they are
unable to then speak in a waythat makes them sound
intelligent and it makes themsound like they are going to be

(02:23:02):
able to communicate well andproficiently.
But unfortunately, it might bethe exact opposite.
It might be to the point where,20 years from now, we're
speaking proper English and a20-year-old is going what are
you even saying?
Like, I don't get what you'resaying.

(02:23:23):
And my where I'm coming from isthat as a society, we're
degrading in almost every way wecan imagine outside a roof,
because we all have a car,because we all have a car, we
all have a tv, we all have airconditioning, we all have an

(02:23:45):
ipad, we all have a cell phone.
So our ease of life isincreasing where our ability to
cognitively communicate andthink and critically use our
brains in ways that will betterus as a society are going down,

(02:24:06):
in part because of thattechnology as well.
What's the old joke?
We've all seen that meme whereour teacher said we had to learn
math because we're not alwaysgoing to walk around with a
calculator in our pocket.
Well, she's right.
We don't walk around with acalculator in our pocket, we
walk around with a freakingcomputer in our pocket, and that

(02:24:28):
is something that,unfortunately, could have some
very long-term effects, or itcould be, depending on how the
programming goes.
It could be the greatest thingin the history of human
advancement, to the degree thatwe all basically become the best
level of fat WALL-E peoplewithout destroying the planet.

(02:24:52):
And everything is super easyand AI is able to figure out.
Cancer is able to be destroyedby this and I'm able using AI,
I'm able to create a genetic, ashot that you can take that will
genetically make you not goblind from glaucoma.

(02:25:15):
It will eradicate every.
It'll get rid of the commoncold.
It will make it where,essentially, food production is
all done by robots and you canlive.
And instead of dystopian, it'sgoing to be a utopian, because
dystopian cells, blade Runner,right, everybody.
Oh, blade Runner's great, evensome of the.

(02:25:38):
What was the one where MattDamon Elysium?
I think it was where they wereon the earth and it was kind of
falling apart.
But then up in space there wasthe ring and Jodie Foster was
the governor and it was utopian.
Who's to say that where we're atnow we don't end up in a

(02:25:58):
utopian society in 100 years?
I think that's definitelypossible, that not just that
Elysium becomes the norm foreverybody.
I personally think that that isthe more likely outcome, think
that that is the more likelyoutcome.

(02:26:20):
I don't think 1984 is the morelikely outcome.
I think that Brave New World isthe more likely outcome, where
anybody who wants to be pluggedin and take the happy drugs and
sit in front of the screen andjust be taken care of they can

(02:26:42):
do that.
And those who don't, those whowant to live off the grid and
those who want to go out andlive on the reservation and be
left alone and not in the cities.
And I know that you know that'snot the real whole thing of
Brave New World, but I thinkthat's ultimately where we will
be in 100 years those who wantto participate in the society in

(02:27:03):
a let the machines take care ofme, and I want to kick back and
I want to be entertained and Iwant to just live my life
however I want, on my floatingchair and I'm happy being out in
the sun.
There are going to be those,and there are going to be those
people who are Marines and go oh, I like to.

(02:27:25):
The more it sucks, the more Ilike it.
So I'm going to go live off thegrid and I'm going to live in a
cabin and dig my own poop holeand collect water every day, and
that's how I'm going to live.
And you know what?
If that's the case, I thinkyou're going to have a lot of
happy people on both sides.

Speaker 2 (02:27:42):
Yep, I am in more of the belief that idiocracy is our
future, Unless we culturallychange something like there
needs to be a revolution backtoward intelligence and
rewarding the best of us.
Right now we reward the worstof us and that's kind of what's
sparking the downward trend ofsociety.

Speaker 1 (02:28:01):
But do you think AI can pull us out of idiocracy?

Speaker 2 (02:28:06):
It could.

Speaker 1 (02:28:09):
That's my thought.

Speaker 2 (02:28:10):
The potential is there for us to become an
enlightened species.
However, just like with thefirst computer, the first thing
somebody looked up was porn.
You know what I'm saying?
Human nature is what it is.
Is that true?
Yeah, all right, human natureis what it is.

Speaker 1 (02:28:33):
I'm going to post the link one more time next Friday.
There's the link Again.
We're going to double tap thebroadcast next Friday, 9.15.
I will be taking on Andrew fromthe Crucible.
Oh, I didn't tell you what theprompt is.
Was Joseph Smith a falseprophet being a member of the

(02:28:58):
Church of Jesus Christ ofLatter-day Saints?
I obviously don't think he wasa false prophet, and what's
really funny about this wasoriginally it was supposed to be
him against another guy, andthen that other guy wasn't even
Mormon, he's not even LDS.
So they reached out to me andthey said, okay, good news,
you're up.
I was like, yeah, I'll take it,because I just thought it was
funny.
You're going to have somebodywho's not even LDS debating this

(02:29:20):
.
Okay, sure, why don't I debatehow hard it is to be black in
America?

Speaker 2 (02:29:26):
You got it Brilliant.
You read books, you read books,so you know.

Speaker 1 (02:29:29):
Hey man, I've done learned.

Speaker 2 (02:29:31):
This has been great.
We will see you guys.

Speaker 1 (02:29:34):
Two and a half hours, dude, this is old school.

Speaker 2 (02:29:36):
Yeah, we were rocking today.
Thank you guys for joining inLiberty man.
We sure appreciate you.
We will see you guys next week.
Hopefully we'll keep trying toget guests, man.
Eventually one of them willshow up.
Yeah, you too, thad.
Thank you Happy Father's Day.
Liberty Thad you guys.
To the guys out there in theuniverse, today's our day.
Enjoy the socks and thepresents you're going to get

(02:29:57):
tonight.

Speaker 1 (02:29:57):
The one day we matter See you guys next week.

Speaker 2 (02:30:01):
Bye everyone, I got to take the banner down.
Take the banner down and endstream.

Speaker 1 (02:30:10):
What do you want to do tonight?

Speaker 2 (02:30:12):
The same thing we do every night Pinky, Try to take
over the world.
All right Yo, let's get into it.
Try to take over the world Allright Yo, let's get into it.

Speaker 1 (02:30:21):
Try to take over the world Yep Preaching Try to take
over the world.

Speaker 2 (02:30:31):
And great chaplain in the world, mr Lance O'Neill,
take over the world, all right.

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