"Tariffs, Tees, and the F-Word" (Because sometimes the only way to describe America’s direction is fascist... maybe.)

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
GMA, what do you want to do tonight?

Speaker 2 (00:05):
The same thing we do every night.
Pinky, Try to take over theworld.
Alright, yo, let's get into it.
Try to take over the world.
Try to take over the world andthe world, mr Lance O'Neill,

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trying to take over the world.
What's up?
What's up?
What's up, world?
We are back, live and in fulleffect.
Again.
It is Sunday.
Do you know where your folksare?
Man, of course you do.
We are right here with you,live and in full effect, for
another edition of Two PokesSave the World.

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This is your boy, kj Branson,and the world's greatest
chaplain, mr Lance O'Neill.
Chappy, how you doing, man.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
Good, it's all good, everything's good.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
Having fun.
Everything is great.
Everything is great.
We are on our way back to God'scountry and I am so excited
that the world is ablaze.
Everybody's acting up and thisadministration leaves us with no
shortage of topics.
So let's say we dive in.
Man, Are you ready to get to itthis week?

Speaker 1 (01:16):
Sure let's go.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
We got a lot to talk about, so I will let you choose.
We got the F word, which isabsolutely.
I think we're there yet, I'mready to say it.
We got tariffs.
We got.
What do we got?
We got protesters going on thisweek and what else, man?
So much is happening and whileall of this is going on, stock
markets crashing.

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We got tariffs, we got.
We got people acting crazybeing kidnapped off the streets
by the authorities.
We got people acting crazybeing kidnapped off the streets
by the authorities, and thePOTUS is bragging about its golf
tournament, which is, you know,par for the course.
Where do you want to start?
So much to talk about so littletime.
Where do you want to start?

Speaker 1 (01:56):
Did you just drop a pun and you didn't even know it?
Probably, probably Because thepresident was talking about his
golf tournament, which is parfor the course.
Bravo on the unintentional pun.
No, way yeah, oh yeah, that was, that was really nice that is.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
That is that, yeah, that is peak dadism.
Right there, peak dadism, weare in there that is.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
that is one of those nba plays where somebody just
kind of gets fouled and justflips it up at the basket and
goes in and it just goes in.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
Yeah, I can't take credit for it, man.
I am glad we should have ourusual crew coming back in the
comments section so we'll giveyou guys a couple of minutes to
log in, Excited to see you guysonce again.
Another great week, man.

Speaker 1 (02:41):
All right, so let's get to it and if you're not one
of our regulars, still log inand make comments, of course, of
course Liberty is sad to haveall the fun making fun of us.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
I know, our shadow ban again from TikTok should be
over here in about a week sowe'll be able to post back on
TikTok again.
We get banned again forsomething.
Yeah, man, we stay.
For whatever reason, we staybanned on TikTok.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
But it's all good, because once we get when we come
back, is that because of otherpeople making comments that are
inappropriate?

Speaker 2 (03:12):
Yes, our comment section gets a little excited,
and then we'll get the.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
How does that happen?
How do we get banned when otherpeople who was it the NFL
player that got fined for?
he got fined for, like richardsherman, writing something oh,
wow but the nfl player and thenhe was like I got fined for
something somebody else said andthen the nfl fined him for

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pointing out that he got finedfor something that he didn't say
.
I read that this week.
I started laughing.
I was like that sounds like theNFL.
Well, it's like the NBA rightnow.
If you do the you know JohnMorant doing the guns that used
to look sharpshooter Very normalthing.
What are we doing?
Like how is this?
Oh, right in the veins.

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Oh, that's promoting.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
No, no, no.
John Moran has a history ofguns, so they kind of yeah,
they're trying to get on himlike hey, bro, you got to choose
, Like I understand.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
But he healed was the same way, yeah, ok, so here's.
Here's part of my problem withthis whole thing, and this was
not a topic we were going totalk about, but it'll go that
way, okay, because you have alot of people talking about John
Morant got in trouble for what?
For having an Instagram accountand showing a gun during an
Instagram account and then forshowing a gun while he was at

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the club and flashed a gun orsomething right, Basically being
an idiot.
Okay, basically being an idiot,but he didn't do anything
illegal.
He didn't do anything illegal.
He didn't threaten anybody witha gun.
Why do NBA players not have thesame protection of the Second

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Amendment as everybody else?
And I understand there's thewhole idea of well, you know,
they're role models and the NBAis a private company and they
can find them and I get that.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
I don't think it's so much.

Speaker 1 (05:05):
It's not that.
Lebron James coming out when, afew years ago and he was he was
saying Daryl Morey was an idiotbecause Daryl Morey, who at the
time was the GM of the Rockets,supported the protests in Hong
Kong.
So yeah, there was a lot of itanyway.

Speaker 2 (05:24):
We're going to jump into it early this week.
So young black men with gunsare still scary right,
Regardless of 2A Young white menwith guns are scary.
It's just different, right.
It's different.
When you have an influentialAfrican-American male
willy-nilly flashing guns, youknow all within his Second

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Amendment rights.
However, it's just, it's adifferent reaction, right?
I remember.
I think back to the young ladywho was graduating college
little white girl graduatingcollege with the AR-15 on her
back and everybody was like ohthat's so great, you know.
But John Morant riding around inthe car with the AR-15 on her
back and everybody was like oh,that's so great, you know.
But John Morant riding aroundin the car with the weapon that
was registered to him is, youknow, public enemy number one.

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And that's, you know, that'sjust propaganda man
regurgitating itself into a newgeneration.
But it's all right, we'll getover it eventually, my hope is
anyway.

Speaker 1 (06:20):
So let me let me ask you about that, though, because
I support both of them.
I so let me let me ask you aboutthat, though, because I support
both of them.
I think, if she wants to walkup there with an AR slung on her
back and get her degree, great.
And I think, if John Moran, aslong as he's not threatening
anybody, not committing, if, ifJohn, as long as John Moran
isn't walking out onto the courtwith his gun ready to threaten
people I don't know how younecessarily play basketball with

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a carry concealed, but, like ifhe's not breaking the law, I
this is the problem I have likewhen we're talking about white
and black, I look at it and sayit's american, he's an american
citizen, he has every right tocarry a gun.
Now I will say this again Iknow the nba has their own set
of rules, but, like to me, if Iwas the union, if I was the head
of the union, I would befighting that all day long,

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because, Let me ask you was hewearing his work uniform when he
was brandishing the gun or washe a private citizen?

Speaker 2 (07:17):
He was a private citizen, right.
But what I'm saying is thatleads back to our conversation
we were having offline all week,right, about how it's just a
thing, right, it'll neverdissipate, it just is what it is
.
And I was watching a clip Ican't think of the dude's name.
I was watching a clip of thisguy and I got man, I got to go

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find his name.
I think it's something Tayloror whatever.
He is a Taylor.
Yeah, I can't call him a whitesupremacist.
He is a he's not.
Yeah, he's a white, I don't knowwhat you call him.

Speaker 1 (07:49):
I think he called himself a white race defender.

Speaker 2 (07:53):
Yeah, a white race defender or something like that,
right.
So I kind of got into him thisweek, right, and I was watching
episode after episode, interviewafter interview of this guy and
just listening to him talk.
And the more I listen to him,the more I realize, like, man, I
, I don't agree with you, but Iunderstand you and I think I
think you know I'm saying a lotof people kind of feel the same

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way, like hey, all right, cool,I don't want to be, I don't, you
know, I'm not racist, I wantyou to, I want you to succeed.
Hell, I want, I want us all tosucceed, yeah.
But here's the thing though wecan't, we can't do it if we're
constantly blaming each other,right.
So here's what we're going todo you go that way, we'll go

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this way and we'll let it be.
And I was sitting back like Intheory sounds great, in
practicality absolutely not.
In theory sounds great, inpracticality, absolutely not.
We've tried that a couple oftimes.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
People just don't.
They don't, but people don'tknow that front.
I don't know if we had thisconversation on the podcast or
if it was just something we hadduring lunch, but we talked
about this.
I think it was during one ofour lunches where I said around
the Alabama, georgia, tennessee,mississippi, I guess, whatever
I got it, that works Right.
You know somewhere in the south, and we said we are going to

(09:37):
build a city and this city isgoing to be for blacks, by
blacks.
That's who's going to livethere.
And what you and I have talkedabout is it's going to be for
blacks, by blacks.
That's who's going to livethere, and what you and I have
talked about is it's going to beblack-owned businesses.
It's going to be black-ownedbanks.
The money is going to stay inthe black community, da-da-da.
And I was like, yeah, I think Ibrought it up.
I was like, hey, yeah, do it,great, no problem.

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And what Taylor was saying wasI have no problem with that, you
want to go do a black city,black neighborhood, all that.
And the problem Taylor has andthis is kind of where I have the
problem with it too is but ifyou turned around and said we're
going to do this, a whiteneighborhood, and we're going to
exclude people of color, wellthen it's suddenly racist.

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And I've always said if youchange the color and it makes it
racist, then it was alwaysracist, and if you change the
color and make it not racist,then it wasn't racist.
So a black city only for blacksis OK, but a white city only
for whites is racist.
You can't have it both ways.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
I agree, but my whole , my whole counter is black
people never made it racist.
It was always Caucasians whomade it racist.
We've seen it time and timeagain.
Look at all the race wars ofthe early 19th century, when
black people had their owneconomies, had their own
economic system.
They didn't.
Black people didn't burn itdown.
You know the race, white raceright.

(10:59):
The race riots were caused byblack people.
Riots weren't caused by blackpeople.
I think you would be hardpressed outside of California at
the turn of the century, backwhen the BPP and all the other
stuff was going down.
Did you finally start seeingblack race riots?
Right?
Everything before then was yeah.

Speaker 1 (11:18):
So the problem you have with that is it's chicken
or egg, right, so, let, right,so.
So let's look at, let's use oneof the one of the easy ones
Englewood riots of 1992.
Sure, and you can say, okay,that was a black right.
Was it a race riot?
Yeah, I think you could qualifythat as a race riot.

(11:40):
Um now, was it really because ofRodney King?
Was it really because of thepolice and the video and and the
judgment?
That was the catalyst of it,but probably what?
What led to that was adisenfranchisement by young
black man, nwa, coming out.
That was, that was the heart ofnwa coming out with f the police

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and all that stuff and and Iremember, you know, reading
about it, I was in Taiwan on mymission at the time, reading
about this Holy cow, you know.
But the Koreans, they were outthere with guns up on their
businesses shooting, yeah, yeah.
And so it was like well, wasthat a race riot because of
blacks or was it a reaction tounfair treatment by the white

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police?
And that's where you can kindof go back the race riots of
World War I, which is really anunknown.
I remember when I was in SanAntonio, I went downstairs in
one of the chapels.
This chapel in San Antonio onFort Sam Houston was used as the
courthouse for a, for a courtmartial or a group court martial

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against black soldiers that hadgone from San Antonio.
They were on leave.
They went into Houston andthere was some to do.
You know, the white, the whitepeople not real happy with the
black soldiers going in andbeing loud and obnoxious and the
black soldiers not being happythat the white populace wasn't

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real happy with them being there.
And you know, so they're backand forth and then somebody,
somebody gets stupid, somebodyshoots and then suddenly there's
firing back and forth and andyou know there have been riots
forever.
But one of the things and thisis where I pushed back kind of
on you is that when you startlooking at and and I understand,
look historically and I got you, historically there's always

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been a problem, white versusblack in America, especially
right.
But at the same time, if youlook and you say the difference
between 17 From 17, let's say,1776, founding of the country to
1860, 100 years, not a lot ofbig changes, right, there was

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whites, there was slavery,pretty consistent 1860, well,
but that was, I mean, they weretreated very poorly, you know
black people were treated likeslaves.

Speaker 2 (14:01):
We didn't have much say in the matter, but yeah,
yeah exactly, but that's mypoint.

Speaker 1 (14:04):
There wasn't a lot of yeah, yeah 1860 before 1860 was
pretty stacked, but that wasalso, let's remember, it was
also static for the rest of theworld too slavery is not unique,
it was not invented byamericans.
But in 1860 something happened.
There was this consciousness,consciousness in America that
originally fed off from Englandthat said, hey, maybe slavery is

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not okay.
And abolitionists startedpushing saying, hey, slavery is
not okay.
There's a moral part of this.
And when people start pushingthe morality of saying, well, in
the Bible it talks about slaves, yeah, but that's a bad
justification.
So we went to war.
So we went to war.
So from 1860 to 1960, ok, therewas a slow progress for black

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people, not, not, it wasn'tjumped up.
And again, you and I we'vetalked about this and I I blame
it absolutely on you know abullet to the back of Abraham
Lincoln's head.
Yeah, I think our country iscompletely different with that.
Ok, but now you go from 1865 totoday.
I don't think you need to jumpthat far.

(15:09):
My dog is jumping from 1965 totoday.
I'm sorry.
Yes, 1965 to today, there'sjust no.
So if you're going beginning ofAmerica through 1860, 1860 to
1960, 1960 to now, there's nocomparison.

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So I understand where you say,historically, black people in
America have gotten the shorterthan the stick, and I agree with
you.
But, I will also say, if youlook at of 1960 forward, you
really can't even compare 1960to today.
You can barely compare 2000 totoday.
It's only been 25 years and thecase for everything that goes

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along with it, from the moralityof it to just just take the dog
out, please the morality ofwhere we've changed as a society
, how we've looked the electionof a black president.
Now I don't agree that we'repost-racial, I don't think we
ever will be post-racial and Idon't think that post-racial is

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necessarily a good thing, justsimply because it's impossible.
I happen to agree with Tayloras far as what race is.
You look at me and you look atyou.
You can't see what we'rethinking, but you can see what
our skin color is and anybodywho says I don't see color is
lying.
It's now with how you react tocolor, that's different, I agree

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.
But there are differences.
There's clear skin, biologicaldifferences, that doesn't mean
mentally we think differently itdoesn't mean you're dumb, I'm
smart, I'm I'm dumb, you'resmart, right?
It just means one of usgenetically has more melanin in
our skin and that's really aboutit, right.
So that that's where I look atit and say historic.

(16:57):
I understand the um, theaverage.
I think it's fair to say this,because when you and I talk, you
represent all black people ofcourse I do the rules we've
established right I've beenelected duly elected, in a vote
of, in a vote of one.

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And you know, and I understandwhen I say, hey, you know, this
is kind of where the racialstuff.
And you say, well, well,historically, and I get it, but
I do think that it's unfair toreally kind of say historically
that we haven't evolved andwe're not in a different
situation than we were.
Because On one side, you couldsay, well, white people have to

(17:40):
prove it Right, and you and Ihave talked about this, you
still have homework that you oweto people as far as what white
people need to do.
But I would argue, I wouldargue that white people over the
last 40, 50 years have done apretty good job about trying to
integrate and trying to say, hey, we need to make this as fair

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as possible, we need to.
We, when, when these idiots whocome out in March and have the
Klan flag or they have theneo-Nazi flags, you see just as
many white people out thereshouting them down, going you
guys are bigots, you guys areinsane, you guys are stupid, you
need to.
Hey, you know, grow up Right.
And so I think, for the mostpart, I would say again, you and

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I have talked about this 5% ofthe right are crazy.
I don't think it's even that.
I think it's like 1% of the farright are really crazy and
about 5% of the left are crazy.
The difference is the left.
The people on the far left areseen as leaders AOC, bernie
Sanders, the people on the farright nobody is clamoring for a

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white supremacist on the right.
We're not going boy.
I really wish there was a smartwhite supremacist.

Speaker 2 (18:54):
About 65% of America.
See November 2024.
You think so, dude?
Are you going to sit here andtell me that Stephen Miller and
those guys aren't whitesupremacists?
Knowing their background?
I don't see it that way.
Here's the thing I wouldencourage you to just go back
and look at the background ofsome of the people in the

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administration.
If you go back and look at itover the week or so, just go
look at it and make your owndecision on it.
I like to call things as theyare Right.
You said, hey, give, give ittime, give it, give it time, let
it, let it play out Right.
Well, we've given it time, welet it play out Right, and

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everything we've seen sinceJanuary 2025 has been an attack
on minorities.
25 has been an attack onminorities.
Just this week, just this week,the POTUS signed an executive
order to strip funding from theAfrican-American Museum in
Washington DC because he saidit's racially insensitive and

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it's an attack on race division.
Like come on.

Speaker 1 (20:03):
Now hold on.
What did the executive ordersay?
It said to present a more fairand objective history.
Telling of history, right?
Because if you go back and youlook at how much money was
thrown at the woman who did the1619 project, right, no, no, no,

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no, no, no, no, no, no, it'scompletely different.

Speaker 2 (20:25):
No, no, you can't do the 1619 project, right?
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,no, it's completely different.
No, no, you can't.
Don't do the 1619 becausebecause then you're changing the
subject.
The African-American Museum.
Have you ever been there?
By the way, I have, ok, yeah,amazing, amazing exhibits to
include.
They erased, they ordered thedeletion of the slave records.
Why, for what purpose?
For what purpose?

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For what purpose?
Like you, we, we, can sit backand say, oh well, maybe this,
that and the other on theexecutive order, but I'm not.
I'm looking past the executiveorder, I'm looking at the actual
actions.
Right, when you see, so, whenyou see these accidents that
keep happening in in arlington,right, you'll say, oh, one thing
, or maybe one or two things,that's's an accident.
But we literally have a fourmonth systemic pattern of

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accidents happening tominorities, especially the
African-American community, andthen we sit back and say oh well
they're not they're not racist,it's just it's an accident.

Speaker 1 (21:20):
So so here's my question is Are is it?
Is it?
I'm trying to think how to saythis when these errors, when
these overreaches are being doneand then they're called out for
it, saying wait a minute,jackie Robinson, why are you
deleting Jackie Robinson fromthis?

(21:42):
When Jackie Robinson was, Imean, pretty, he was more than
just black.
Right, he was also a World WarII veteran, a war hero.
I'm not sure if he was a goldmedalist, I believe he was an
Olympian though, but JackieRobinson, I mean, even if
nothing else, just being thefirst African-American in
baseball, considering thehistory of baseball, personally,

(22:04):
I think that's enough of myfavorite athletes because of
that.
And so if somebody goes out anddeletes that because of the
misreading or misunderstandingof some of this stuff because I
think you're right in terms ofwhat you said was DEI is going
to be used as the boogeyman,it's going to be used as the

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excuse, right, and it has beenright.
But there's a differencebetween true DEI and somebody
happened to be a person whohappens to be of color, right?
You don't delete Rosa Parksbecause she happened to be black
.
You know, if somebody ispushing and saying you know Rosa

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Parks, we're deleting herbecause all she did was write a
bus.
It's like well then, you're anidiot, you don't understand
history.

Speaker 2 (23:02):
Or you got the, you got the sec def deleting black
metal honor recipients becausehe called them DEI hires and
again.

Speaker 1 (23:06):
But that's my point.
And we go back to this and wesay, when DEI, when they pushed,
and they said DEI, there was aknee-jerk reaction in the
military that said we can't doanything now, we can't do Black
History Month, we can't doPolynesian History Month, we
can't do this, that and theother Right.
And they, they overreacted,they're like oh, we've got to

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take down the black medal ofhonor.
So there's a there's thismisinterpretation, though, that
DEI is racial, and I think thatwas where you had people coming
in and using that.
And, like you and I have saidthis, you said to me tell me
what the president said, notwhat you think he said Right.

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And I don't think I'm so, Idon't think I'm the only one.
I think you've had people onthe other side going well, gosh,
dei means anything.
Black Not not really, because,let's be fair and you got on me
last week for this my personalmotto is never underestimate the
stupidity of people.
There are a lot of dumb peoplein the military.
There are a lot of very smart,very skilled, very talented

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people in the military too, buta lot of the dumb people do dumb
things and a lot of dumb peoplego in and they take action
without thinking about it.
So you could very easily I gotyou.

Speaker 2 (24:25):
That's a deflection, because when you have the
Secretary of Defense callingBlack Medal of Honor recipients
from World War I and II, deihires, it's a little hard to
expect the troops not to thentake that and say, okay, well,
we got to remove it.
I didn't see that quote.
Yeah, matter of fact, I'll goget it for you, I'm not saying

(24:46):
you didn't.
No, no, no.
I told you how I felt aboutSecDef.
He was in over his skis fromthe get-go and he's proven time
and time again to be an absoluteidiot.

Speaker 1 (24:58):
One of the things that he also One of the problems
with the SecDef in terms of thethings that he also one of the
problems with the SecDef interms of the media also is that
everybody's freaking out likestuff like his tattoos and all
that it's like.
I mean, it's a Christian tattoo, it doesn't.
It's used.
It was used, as you know, toshow that you'd been to
Jerusalem.
You support, you know Jerusalemand all that stuff.

(25:23):
But I mean the KKK was aChristian organization, so it's
like Well, if you want to gowith that, the KKK was also a
Democratic.
The KKK was like 95 percentDemocrats, right.

Speaker 2 (25:36):
And.
But see, here's the thingthough we say that, like we
don't know, that the partyswitched Right, like I saw.
A matter of fact, I got into aconversation with a guy this
week about it.
Right, he was like, oh you know, the Democrats this, that and
the other, the Democrats areupset.
I've never seen some he wasquoting some meme about he'd
never seen Democrats so upsetsince they took their slaves.
And I said that's pretty cool.

(25:58):
But let me ask you this Ifthat's the case, then when
Democrats were saying, hey,we're going to take down our
slave monument, who wascomplaining about history, not
heritage?
Was it Democrats saying it washistory not heritage, or was it
conservatives and Republicans?
Then, at some point, you got toacknowledge the fundamental
switch of the parties.
Right, we can't sit back andsay, well, democrats, you know,

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we freed the slaves fromDemocrats.
Yes, you did.
Yes, you absolutely did.
However, the 1960s happened andthe whole switch of
conservative conservatismhappened.
Right, the Southern strategychanged everything.
It did Right.
So now you have and I'm not evendefending Democrats, because I

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have to take Malcolm X's adviceon this and say that the biggest
threat is a Democratic liberal,because at least with a
Republican or a conservative,you know exactly where they
stand.
They're going to tell you hey,this is what I'm for.
I don't care whether you likeit or not, this is what I'm
going to vote for.
But what you'll have withDemocratic liberals and I think
2024 was another shining exampleof it You'll have Democratic

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liberals in public, out doingprotests like they did today,
everybody's out complaining andeverybody's out fun in this
unity thing.
And then you'll go back andyou'll look at the voting
records, what they do in private, and you'll see that they vote
overwhelmingly for the samebullshit.
So it's like all right, we seeyou protesting, we see you
having all these these, theseoutward displays of we're

(27:25):
unified and we're tired of thisstuff.
But when it comes, when itmatters, when it comes to voting
for policy that affect realchange, when it comes to
electing officials who canactually enact change, we see
time and time again that doesn'thappen.
So it's just, it's just anothermicrocosm of a bigger issue and
it's like all right, we hear it, yeah, we see it but it's

(27:52):
bullshit and I digress.

Speaker 1 (27:53):
I don't understand.
No, no, I get it.
I think, though, that so partof the problem, realistically,
is the individual versus kind ofthe group think and what gets
pushed for the group think,because I, again, I have have,
I've been on this earth for 52years, I've lived every, every
side of the world, right, yeahand um, but if I say the the

(28:15):
most racist interactions thatI've personally observed or been
personally part of have beenblack people towards white
people, I get pushed back onlike, well, black people can't
be racist, okay, how aboutbigoted then?
Or using racial slurs?
I've seen stuff where I was inConnecticut and we were standing

(28:39):
in line.
I come up to the express lane,it's, you know, 10 or fewer, or
whatever.
It was 15, 10 or 15.
Grocery market, right, and Iget behind a lady, a black lady,
and she had more than 15.
And I'm not in a rush, I don'tcare Like it's, like whatever

(29:05):
Lady behind me, lady behind meshe comes up and she's looking
and she kind of goes.
I mean not real loud oranything she kind of goes that
looks like more than 15.
I kind of turn and just kind ofshrug Lady in front of me turns
around.

Speaker 2 (29:16):
Who are?

Speaker 1 (29:17):
you, you're going to look at me, you're going to,
you're going to, and then drops,then drops the cracker.
Oh, you just saw a white honkycracker who just came to me.
You just got and I was likewhoa, hold on, whoa, whoa, whoa.

Speaker 2 (29:32):
Why are we there?
Why are we there?
Why are we there Immediately?
Why are we there?

Speaker 1 (29:36):
There's nothing Calm down, and so and part of the
thing to me was, like her saying, and this is where I've always
said if you're always lookingfor racism.
You're always gonna find racism.
Yeah, not to say there.
It's not to say there aren'tracist things.
But a woman behind me looking,going there's more than she's

(29:58):
going through a line with morethan 15 things.
That's probably not racial.
It's probably somebody who'sannoyed that she's in the line
blah blah blah and it's like, ohyeah, she had more than 15 like
it's that conversation,remember?

Speaker 2 (30:13):
we talked about seeing, seeing different colors
and hearing a differentconversation.
Yeah, what you guys heard was,oh, she's got more than 15, but
I'm sure know what that blackwoman heard was a completely
different conversation than shereacted to.
Seth, there you go, though.

Speaker 1 (30:30):
If you're always looking for racism, aren't you
always going to find racism,though?
And I understand what you'resaying is just because I don't
hear the racism doesn't mean theracism's there right, yes and
no.

Speaker 2 (30:45):
Here's the thing, right?
Here's the thing.
White people have become adeptat saying we're post-racial or
racism a big deal, that that isthe go-to everywhere, what black
people do.
And I will tell you, sayingthat black people can't be
racist, as a candidate, saying Idon't see color, it's just

(31:05):
bullshit.
Right?
Some of the some of the mostracist people I know are older
black men from the South,because experiences, experiences
, have traumatized the hell outof them.
So it's just what it is.
But my point is what was itgoing to see?
That line threw me off.
What I was saying was what I'msaying is post-racial society.

(31:26):
Here's how you get past it.
Right?
You go into any chat room, goon to any chat board or any
article or whatever.
You go into any chat room, goon to any chat board or any
article or whatever.
The first thing you starthearing about is old times were
better, when we can hang them bytrees or get nooses or you know
all these racial epithets andstuff.
Right, and I think we talkedabout this earlier.
You can't.
You can't say don't judge mebecause of the sins of my father

(31:50):
, right?
A lot of people like to say, ohwell, I'm not, you can.
Slavery happened so long ago.
I didn't own any slaves.
I didn't hang nobody in a tree.
You can't blame me for it,right, which is absolutely fine
and agreeable.
But here's the problem.
You can't go back and then getinto your message boards or have
these conversations and stuffand talk about hanging people
and then not expect people tohave a visceral reaction.

(32:13):
It's like okay, if you want toget post-racial both sides, if
everybody wants to getpost-racial, it's not that hard.
Just stop doing racist shit.
It's really that simple.

Speaker 1 (32:26):
I'll tell you right now I don't see those comments.
Maybe we're just going in adifferent place and that's fine,
but I will say this If I thosecomments, I I, maybe we're just
going a different place andthat's fine, but if I but I will
say this, if I saw that, I meanat the very least I reported.
I mean I don't know x orwhatever, you know what you do
now, but I think that's.
I think that goes also back tothe anonymity of the keyboard

(32:49):
warrior it does.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
A lot of people have been.
A lot of people have been beenfound out about it.
Like matter of fact.
What was the one?
Um margaret and I hate pickingon margaret taylor green, but
she's just so easy herex-husband just got in the hot
water because some muslimteenagers was off in a parking
deck praying off to the sideminding their own business.
He pulls up in a tesla and juststarts to berate these teenage

(33:13):
girls like nobody's business.
Go back to your country.
Why you got to do this out ofpublic.
Did he film it?
They filmed it.
They filmed it.
They didn't know who it was,they just thought it was some
weirdo.

Speaker 1 (33:25):
It doesn't matter.

Speaker 2 (33:28):
That's the point I'm making.
You get in these comfortablespaces where you don't think
nobody else is around and allthese these these crazy racial
things come out, like the girl,the girl in Washington DC.
She was a what do they callthem when they she was a
lobbyist, a lobbyist for forhelp, a lobbyist for for help.

(33:51):
But at a hockey game, sittingat Texan with another consultant
talking about all thesenegative stereotypes, about how
blacks carry disease and blackyou know all these other stuff.
But here you are.
You're a lobbyist forAfrican-American health and a
lobbyist.

Speaker 1 (34:12):
This was a white woman saying it.
Yeah, this was a white woman.
At a hockey game.

Speaker 2 (34:17):
Yeah, Wait, wait, wait, it wasn't a black person.

Speaker 1 (34:21):
No, no no, but I'm saying this was not a black
person at a hockey game.
Wait a minute.

Speaker 2 (34:26):
I love hockey, when Atlanta had a hockey game.

Speaker 1 (34:29):
I'm just trying to see if we get any.

Speaker 2 (34:31):
I'm just trying to see if any of the comment
sections don't realize the yeahit is going to be, yeah, bananas
, but no, the point I'm makingis, it's real simple, to not do
racist shit like you have hardthat.
You have hard data.
You're a lobbyist forafrican-american health, but
here you are thinking thatyou're safe having a personal
conversation and you're textingall these you you know you're

(34:53):
passing all these falsenarratives about
African-Americans, which isridiculous.
Bro, just don't be racist.
It's not that hard.

Speaker 1 (35:01):
So okay.
So here's, here's kind of myquestion for this.
I wonder what percentage ofwhite people aren't racist and
what I mean when you say and I'mjust going to caveat that don't
do racist things, right?
I wonder what percentage ofwhite people don't do racist

(35:22):
things, because I'd probably putit seriously, like at 99%, but
it's that 1%.
It's kind of like the police.
That is extremely optimistic.
Well, listen, I'm just kind ofmaking the point, though I don't
know what the number is.

Speaker 2 (35:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (35:38):
Personal experience, whatever Experientially.
Okay, let's go experientially.
It's kind of like the police,right?
The police every year havesomething like 100 million
interactions in this country andyou know things go good, things
go bad and the percentage ofactually bad police work where

(36:00):
they've actually done theinvestigation and they found the
police officers were actuallydoing something wrong.
It was a bad shooting, it was aracially motivated arrest, but
whatever it is, it's somethinglike one out of every 100,000 or
150,000 interactions.
It's very, very small, but thoseare the ones that we always see

(36:22):
.
So I wonder if a lot of it issimply because when something
like that happens and you can gothe same way for
African-Americans, right.
So if you say, well, the vastmajority of African-Americans
aren't doing anything wrong.
But then the one story of thetrack runner who's going around
the track with the baton and shesmacks the other black girl

(36:45):
upside the head, of courseeverybody goes oh my gosh, did
you see that?
And then you have some peoplecome out and go.

Speaker 2 (36:53):
well, what do you?
Expect and that's what you go.

Speaker 1 (36:58):
I expect somebody.
First of all, I expect somebody, a runner, not to hit another
runner with a baton.
My thought wasn't like well,she did that because she was
black.
Well, the other runner wasblack too.
Should she have done it?
Of course not.
They can't control themselves.
Well, the other runner wasblack too.
Should she have done it?
Of course not, they can'tcontrol themselves.

Speaker 2 (37:15):
It's the animalistic nature.

Speaker 1 (37:17):
Right, there you go.
So it's the well, white peopleshouldn't give ammunition to
come out and say, hey, this iswhere, just like black people,
well, black people shouldn't doanything to make them.
And that's the thing there's.
Also, we're at the point inthis country, I think, because
of the Internet and because ofcell phones, there really is no
forgiveness for just mistakes.

(37:41):
Now there was the one this weekand, depending on how you read
it, you have a black athlete,track and field athlete, who is
in the tent, who is receivingsome form of treatment for some
injury.
Yeah, White kid comes in andsays something like move.

(38:03):
The black kid says no.
The white kid says, well, hey,I need to sit down.
The black kid says, well,you're going to go ahead and
make me.
And the white kid touches himor pokes him, and the black kid
says do it again, go ahead,punch me.
And now the question is thewhite kid, did he actually punch

(38:23):
him or did he you know, okay,you know punch, or was he
actually?
It didn't sound.
The way it read didn't soundlike it was actually like punch
to injure.

Speaker 2 (38:32):
It was more like oh, okay.

Speaker 1 (38:35):
And then the kid pulls out a knife out of his bag
and stabs the kid, the whitekid, and goes running away right
.
So now you have this well was itthe white kid antagonizing the
black kid?
Was it the black kid?
Why did the black kid have aknife in his bag?
And the problem with this wholething is then it becomes this

(38:59):
racial thing.
And I've seen on Twitter, I'veseen, you know I certainly could
be called racially insensitivetweets.
I saw one meme where it waslike it was like a demon kind of
crawling out of the grave andit was me coming after my family
members after I'm stabbed by ablack guy and saying don't make

(39:21):
this racial.
So it's like are you saying, ifyou get stabbed by a black guy,
you want your family to make itracial?
Like what?
And I saw that If that's whatyou believe, I mean good for you
, but that's kind of a shittything to do.

Speaker 2 (39:41):
You know how the media likes to do things right,
let's war game it a little bit.
Had that been a white kid whostabbed that black kid out of
self-defense, let's say theywould have dug into that black

(40:02):
kid's background extensively.
They would have got his thirdgrade picture.
No, had they been switched,they would have grabbed his
third grade school records wherehe was suspended from school
and said see, he has a historyof violence, right, I mean they
would have learned extensively.
So what you see here is themedia doing.

(40:24):
What the media?

Speaker 1 (40:24):
sure, because I think the media is, um, genuinely not
only unhelpful but dishonest,and and the reason I say that is
you and I have talked aboutthis a little bit the, the
trayvon martin, um, not just thewhole situation, but I'm only

(40:48):
going to talk about the, thebackground picture.
You remember when that all blewup?
and they talked about TrayvonMartin and then they showed a
picture of Trayvon and TrayvonMartin when he died I believe
was 17.
He was almost neither.
He was okay 17, but the picturethat they showed around was him

(41:09):
as a seventh grader when he waslike 13.
Was him as a seventh graderwhen he was like 13.
And there's a very bigdifference between what young
men look like when they're 13and when they're 17.
At 13, most kids are13-year-old.
Boys are just kind of skinnyand young looking and most of

(41:29):
them don't even have any peachfuzz and they're just very in
general 13-year-olds do not lookthreatening at all 17-year-olds
I've been in these high schools.
I see 17-year-olds with biggerbeards than I can grow and I
mean these are young men okay at17.
And the media turned around.

(41:50):
And again the media, by thesame token, did the same thing
with OJ.
You remember when the OJ, whenthey had his, his mugshot, they
actually darkened OJ's mugshotto make him look more menacing.
So the media is very dishonestkind of as a whole, depending on
, depending on which way theywant to do.

Speaker 2 (42:13):
How do?

Speaker 1 (42:13):
we want to make this look bad?
Do we want to make the blackkid look like more of a victim,
or do we want?
To make the black guy look likehe's more of the criminal.

Speaker 2 (42:18):
Or do we want?

Speaker 1 (42:18):
to look the white guy .
So it's really dishonest and asfar as celebrity, the problem
with the self-defense was wedon't know who was self-defense
for who, though?

Speaker 2 (42:28):
That's the question.
Self-defense for who?
Well, they both have claims ofself-defense.
You have the victim saying that, hey, it was completely.
I know, I know what I'm saying.
The victim's family is saying,hey, it was completely, yeah, we
had a conversation, but heoverreacted.

(42:51):
Then, at the same time, you gotthe accused family saying, hey,
man, I got these two guyscoming up to me.
I have a right to defend myself.
So that's where, yeah, it'sgoing to play out in court.
It's going to play out in court, obviously, but and that's what
the videos, the videos.

(43:17):
And but at the same time, kj,you also I don't necessarily
know if it's liberal blacksdefending unjustified killing we
, we don't know if it'sunjustified, we don't know, and
that's important and this is oneof the other problems.

Speaker 1 (43:25):
So we talk about when we have video.
It's important, it's great tohave video, but how many also
times.
How many times have we seenvideos that it's like?

Speaker 2 (43:35):
Which have been manipulated.

Speaker 1 (43:37):
Yeah, here's where the fight starts, here's where
the video starts and here'swhere the video stops.
All we get is this little clip,this 15-second clip of somebody
freaking out and throwing ahaymaker or whatever In both
ways, like oh my gosh, I can'tbelieve this guy did that, or I
can't believe this guy reactedthe way they did that.
But we only have this littlesnippet because that's, you know

(44:00):
what was the site that used toshow all the fights on when the
internet first started going?

Speaker 2 (44:06):
I don't know.
I remember E-Bombs World andBum Fights was fun and Bumfights
right.

Speaker 1 (44:13):
So that's what they would do also, and that's where
we're at.
We're at where you take theclip and then you can manipulate
it into just about anything,and the media and you and I I've
told you how many times,whether it's racist, whether
whatever I blame the media andits coverage, probably 95% of

(44:33):
the time, because we just don'tget a fair viewpoint of any of
this stuff.
So we're talking about the.
We haven't gone to it, butwe'll go to it now the protests
that happened this weekendagainst Trump, right?
So even that has been from whatI've seen and I will readily
admit I've seen very little.
I'm not big on protests.

(44:55):
I think protests again are alook at it.
Yeah, I think they're virtuesignaling, for the most part,
protesting against Trump eightweeks after he was elected.
Okay, good for you.
What are you going to change?
Hands off our stuff.
What stuff?
What Like what?

(45:16):
Tell me hands off what youdon't get to change it.
You know he was elected in thenext elections, not for another
22 months, so great Go ahead anddo that, say that is the media.
So I I have this guy on twitterthat I found that he uses and I

(45:37):
think I said it to you and andaj, but he uses the, the
metadata, to look at theseprotests and how many people are
actually.
They're using the gps and the umoh yeah yeah, right, yeah, so
chicago, like today, it wasthere's 30 000 people in in
Chicago who were protestingagainst Trump and he went and he
said well, actually it's about9,000.
And of those 9,000, we've beenable to track like 40% of the

(46:03):
9,000 have been at least fiveleft-leaning rallies and another
20% have been at four of them.
So it's the same people thatare going out.
None of this, from what I cantell, none of this is grassroots
.
You had Schumer come out lastweek and, unintentionally, I
think, he admitted that theDemocrats were the ones who were

(46:27):
pushing for other Democrats togo out to the town halls that
Republicans were holding.
When he said something like youknow, we've got our Democrats
out there at these town hallmeetings not to let these
Republicans get away with things.
It's like dude, like, do youhear what you're saying?
You're saying the quiet partout loud.

Speaker 2 (46:47):
I mean town halls are open to everybody.

Speaker 1 (46:51):
It's not like, it's not like, it's not like, oh,
like.

Speaker 2 (46:53):
Once they become elected as a Senator, they they
regardless of party affiliation.
They're the state's Senator, soyou can't you know what I'm
saying.
If I'm a Democrat, if Lindsayor Tim were to have a town hall,
I would go, because I'm still aconstituent, even though I'm
not a Republican.
Even though I'm not aRepublican, they're still my
senators.

Speaker 1 (47:20):
But there's a difference between you saying
that Lindsey Graham is going tohave one and saying, hey, I want
to show up and go, versussomebody going from the
Democratic Party and going andgetting whatever online cheat
codes they use to get all thetickets, and then making sure
you're giving them out to allthe instigators.
And that seems to be what'sgoing on in a lot of cases.

Speaker 2 (47:41):
Not everything.

Speaker 1 (47:42):
Of course, not everything, but you know what I?
I'm kind of with you, though,like and like.
If you're a Republican and youshow up and you do a town hall,
first of all you need to beprepared for it to be.
Nobody goes to a town hall andsays you know what?
Guys, you've just been great,keep doing what you've done.

(48:04):
I drove all the way fromAugusta, I drove all the way
into Atlanta for this town halljust to say you've been doing
just a bang-up job and keep itgoing.
Nobody does that, whicheverside.
So if you're going to have atown hall, you have to expect it
to be hostile.
But at the same time, you know,I just kind of again, I think

(48:29):
there's with these protests andeverything I just kind of laugh,
because I've sent you a coupleand don't get me wrong,
republicans do this too.
There's this flip flop.
I've sent you videos of Schumertalking about how terrorists
back in 1995.
Oh, terrorists would be thebest.
We need terrorists.
And Nancy Pelosi going oh,terrorists, man, you know what

(48:51):
we, you know what we did in thiscountry.
We need some terrorists.
And then you have, you know,bernie Sanders in 2019 going oh,
terrorists, man, you know whatwe, you know what we need in
this country we need someterrorists.
And then you have, you know,bernie Sanders in 2019 going, oh
you know, having these openborders.
This is just horrible.
We need to stop these openborders.
This is a threat to ourdemocracy.
And then five, four years later, it's racist to say we can't
have these open borders.
So and again, republicans arejust as bad.

(49:14):
These are two sides of the samecoin.
That said, I just I look at itagain.
Aj pushed back on me, youpushed back on me.
Well, what about all this stuffTrump's doing and I go.
We're two months in policy-wisenow.
You don't have to appreciate,and I give you credit.

(49:35):
You've said look, I've neverhad a big problem with Trump, I
have a problem with the peoplearound him and that's fine.
I appreciate your opinion onthat, but I think you have a
dishonesty again in thenarrative, especially from the
mainstream media, when theheadlines are Dow has the worst
two days in history and you say,okay, so the Dow dropped,

(49:58):
whatever the number was 2,000,2,500 points whatever it was
right.

Speaker 2 (50:02):
Sure.

Speaker 1 (50:04):
But that 2,500 is something like 3%.
Okay, I was working at FidelityInvestments in the mid 90s when
it dropped something like 900points in two days and that was
like a 7 percent.
So you could say it's been theworst two days, but not really

(50:24):
Well, liberty, whatever it was,I don't know the exact numbers,
but I'm just saying it's been.
Depending on how you look at it, it's not the biggest.
These are not the biggest dropsin the history of all time.
They might be the biggestnumbers as far as dropping 5,000
, 5,000.
But let's see the market's at40,000.
Did it drop 8,000?
I don't even know.

(50:46):
I don't know.
My little tiny bit of stocks.
I just leave them as is.
I'm not going in, I'm not doinganything with them.
I will tell you they're thereto be invested.

Speaker 2 (50:57):
I will tell you, I've looked and I'm not.
I mean, it is what it is, man.
There's not much I can do aboutit.
I'm not going to sell.
You know what I'm saying.
I'm going to ride the wave.

Speaker 1 (51:08):
No, you shouldn't, Because again most of this stuff
will come back you know, atsome point it's going to come
back.

Speaker 2 (51:22):
Do you think that I've seen some stuff that I
thought was interesting?
Yeah, you can definitely buythe dip.

Speaker 1 (51:27):
Have you seen the?
There's an argument that thetariffs and some of the economic
stuff that Trump is doing issuper unpopular by the extremely
rich.
And if the stuff that he'spushing were to work If the

(51:52):
stuff that he's pushing were towork and we don't know yet, but
if it were to work it would bemuch more beneficial to the
middle class and to the lowerclass, the more poor, versus
those people in the stock market.
And that Trump at this point islike I don't give a crap what
the stock market does, I want tobring back manufacturing into

(52:15):
this country and I want peopleto be able to.
And so that's kind of theargument at this point.
I don't.
I honestly I don't know howit's going to go.
I don't know if that's Trump'sintention.
I hope it is.
I hope the intention is let'sbring back manufacturing.
I've said for a long time, I'vesaid this way before Trump.

(52:36):
I was saying this 20 years agoIf you want to solve probably 90
percent of the trade issues wehave in this world, in this
country, is you just do a mirrortariff.
Whatever China charges up ontariffs, you charge for China's.
You charge for China's If theyare going to charge 100% tariff
for cars going from the US toChina.
You tariff 100% of cars andmanufactured auto parts coming

(53:01):
into this country.

Speaker 2 (53:04):
I'm not smart enough to comment on any of it.

Speaker 1 (53:08):
Down 5%.

Speaker 2 (53:12):
The whole tariffs thing.
Obviously you ask 10 economists, you're going to get 10
different answers Right.
Ultimately, we hope it's goingto work.
That is a way that I don'tnecessarily know.
If that's that's the way, Idon't even think that's the way
he was looking at it, but if itworks out that way, he'll take

(53:32):
the credit for it.
I just don't.
I don't believe that's hisintent.
What Trump has never been?
Well, trump's never really beena middle class champion.
I get just his mouth has saidthat.
His mouth has said it.
His mouth has said that.

(53:54):
His mouth has said it.
He's you know, he said it.
However, his, his actions asPOTUS 45 and then now POTUS 47,
it's just it's.
It's not lining up Right.
We can, we can go off.
We can go off.

Speaker 1 (54:07):
I thought real wages for 45 were pretty darn solid.
Is that not what the numbershowed?
I could have sworn that showthat's what the number showed
for 45 were pretty darn solid.
Is that not what the numbersshowed?
I could have sworn that's whatthe numbers showed for 45.

Speaker 2 (54:15):
Nope.
And then even with the tax cutsthat are trying to be permanent
, become permanent now, like yougot the initial dopamine push
of the middle class getting hit,but ultimately it benefited the
upper 1%.

Speaker 1 (54:30):
Can something benefit .
Let me ask because here's theproblem with the economics that
I have as a whole how thenarrative kind of goes, when,
when it's being pushed as thethe super rich, the middle class
and the poor, because there'sthere's really no such thing as
the upper middle class anymore.

(54:51):
Right, because even rich peoplewho make a million dollars a
year, even though normally youand I would go, wow, a million
dollars a year, but, they don'tpay the resources or taxes.

Speaker 2 (55:00):
We can get into that later.

Speaker 1 (55:02):
But what I was going to say was so you've got you.
The idea that's pushed by theleft is that billionaires are
taking money away from middleclass and poor people, and
that's not what the economy.
The economy is not a pie thatif the richest of the rich take

(55:29):
90% of the pie, there's only 10%of the pie left over for the
middle class and the large.
The economy is a pie factorythat will pump out as many pies
as anybody needs.
And my argument has always beenbecause I'll have people say
well, why do you defendbillionaires?
Why do you defend the superrich?

(55:50):
You're not ever going to besuper rich and the reason I say
that is I don't have a problemwith anybody making money.
I want anybody who can to makemoney.
I was talking with Heather.
Actually, we had an idea for anapp.
Anybody app developed or I am,maybe because I have a really
good idea for an app that Ithink would actually make a lot
of money, but because I can't doit.

(56:12):
But let's say I did.
Let's say I was able to do that.
As long as I'm not stealingmoney from somebody else.
I don't like Bill Gatespolitics at all.
That said, Bill Gates made hismoney by writing code or
improving code, improving oncomputers, personal computers,

(56:36):
Windows, da-da-da-da-da.
And people said I'm going togive you, I'm going to take my
money out and I'm going to giveyou $150 of my money because I
want what you made and BillGates and how many people of

(56:57):
outside of?
Huh, I can't right now.
Sorry, Go get your mom Shut thedoor.
I'm doing my podcast.
We're doing this.
This is live.
This is the fun of doing thepodcast.
You got an 11-year-old comingin.
I need help with the puppies.
I'm doing my podcast.
We're doing this.
This is live.
This is the fun of doing thepodcast.
You got an 11-year-old comingin.
I need help with the puppies.
I love it, so I have no problemwith somebody going and making

(57:22):
as much money as they possiblywant.

Speaker 2 (57:24):
Look, george Soros.

Speaker 1 (57:26):
I think George Soros is a horrible human being.
He made all of his moneybasically on foreign money
manipulation.
He was betting the marketsright, but as long as he didn't
do anything illegal, Warrenwon't.

Speaker 2 (57:42):
I'm going to give you a different perspective.
Right, and I completely agreewith you, and we got enough data
now to know that Reagan'spolicy of trickle down economics
was a complete disaster.
It does not work.
Rich people, when given theoption to give back, tend to

(58:02):
hoard more.
That's just, that's not me.
That's just, that's a science.
I'm sorry, but I'm going togive you a different perspective
.
Right, if things wereproportional, it would make
sense.
But what happens is you haveeverybody's benefiting Right.
You have the ultra rich, thesuper 1 percent.
They are benefiting fromsociety, and then you have a

(58:25):
middle class who's benefitingfrom society, and then you have
a lower class or lower middleclass.
It's lower middle class and inpoverty.
Everybody benefitsproportionally right.
So you got the guys that are inpoverty they benefit from
social services right, they'rethe ones that's going to take up
the bulk of social servicesright.
You got the people in themiddle class Right.

(58:52):
I'll get to that in a minute.
Hold on again, not true, butwe'll get to that in a minute.
So the point I was making is isthis right, you have the middle
class right.
Who bore the brunt?
Between 70 and 85 percent ofthe tax tax burden?
Right.
They pay between 70 the middle,between lower middle class,

(59:12):
upper middle class and middlemiddle class.
They pay between 70 and 85% ofthe tax burden in the country.

Speaker 1 (59:20):
Are you talking about federal income tax?
Yes, no, yes, who no?

Speaker 2 (59:25):
Who.

Speaker 1 (59:25):
The top 5% in America pay something like 75% of the
taxes.

Speaker 2 (59:33):
No man.
Matter of fact, I'm going topull it up.

Speaker 1 (59:38):
The bottom 50% of Americans it's like the bottom
49% of Americans pay zero infederal income tax.
The rich pay a shite load ofthe taxes in this country.
Let's see, let's see, let's see, let's see, let's see.
And it's not even close.

(59:59):
Now here's part of the problemwith the way the taxes work,
though, in federal income tax,but still pay a higher
percentage of their paycheck, assmall as it is in taxes,
because of things like sales tax, gasoline tax, et cetera.

(01:00:21):
Right?
So if you're a guy who's onlymaking 50 percent or fifteen
dollars an hour but you have topay when you go fill up your gas
tank on your forty dollar gastank, you have to pay $10 worth
of taxes Then your percentage ishigher than somebody who's
paying more.
And that I don't believe I'mwrong.

(01:00:42):
I'm pretty sure I'm not wrong.

Speaker 2 (01:00:44):
Hold on, because I'm going to pull it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:45):
There you go, liberty , just posted.
It.

Speaker 2 (01:00:48):
No, that is incorrect , sir.
Where'd you get that from?
That is incorrect, sir.
That is incorrect, sir.
Because I'm looking at it rightnow the average income rate by
group top 1% pays on oh yeah,chat GPT.
Nope, you're right, chat GPT,not it.
So, listen, according to thegovernment data, top 1% pays

(01:01:11):
about 26.1% of federal incometaxes.
That's as of 2022, 26.1%,that's the top 1%.
Then you have the 1% to 5%.
They pay an additional 18%,right, but then, depending on
how the stats break because thatcould be upper middle class to

(01:01:33):
a different site right.
So, if you look at anywherefrom 5% to 50%, right, Because
you got 14.3% for 5% to 10%,10.7% for 10% to 25%, 7.7% for
the 25% to 50% and then thebottom 50, which are the guys in

(01:01:55):
poverty they pay about threepoint seven percent on average.
Reason why is because they getmost of the tax return.
They don't really put in a lotbecause they're on government
services.
So it's true that theyaccounted for the most taxes,
but they don't pay the mosttaxes.
Does that make sense?
the most taxes but they don'tpay the most taxes.

(01:02:17):
Does that make sense?
Say that again the top 1% we'retalking about the elite of the
elite.
They pay between 25% to 30%taxes as of 2022.
Average federal income rate taxrate by income group.
You go down the line which isthe upper middle class, like I
was telling you.

(01:02:38):
Upper middle class, the lowermiddle class, that is your, your
anything from, let's say, thetop one percent is, you know,
the elite of the elite.
Everybody else, from from oneto 50, pays roughly 47 to 50
percent, and then the bottomthree pays about four percent
because they're the ones that'sgetting all the social services

(01:02:58):
so.

Speaker 1 (01:02:59):
So this comes, this comes into the magic of the, the
numbers and the statistics andall that.

Speaker 2 (01:03:04):
Right, okay, because this is where they only
contribute about two to threepercent.

Speaker 1 (01:03:09):
That's exactly what I just said but the easiest
example is this when warrenbuffett says my secretary pays
more in taxes than I do.
And this is where perceptionmatters.
Right, because warren buffett,his salary is basically nothing.

(01:03:32):
He doesn't make a salary.
What he does is he invests.
And what is the rate oftaxation for investment?
Do you know what it is?

Speaker 2 (01:03:44):
No but you're right, I know you're right, but I don't
know the exact numbers.

Speaker 1 (01:03:48):
Okay, so capital gains taxes are 15%, right?
So if Warren Buffett makes $100million out of that $100
million, he's paying taxes at a15% rate.
So he makes $100 million, he'staxed $15 million.
Right, so he paid $15 millionin taxes.

(01:04:11):
Right, so he paid 15 million intaxes.
Meanwhile his secretary who Ihave no idea how much she makes,
but I'm guessing she doespretty well, let's again do a
nice round number.
Let's say Warren Buffett issuper generous to his number one

(01:04:32):
personal assistant, who's beenwith him for 30 years, who has
always taken care of her, and hepays a salary of $10 million a
year.
Right, let's say $10 million ayear.
Okay, because she's in the top1% tax bracket, she's paying in
federal taxes.
I believe it's the high end, issomewhere around 47%.
Now, my numbers are not exact.
No, no, yeah, estimating Right,right, so she's paying around.

(01:04:56):
Let's just round it off in 50%.
Okay, I know that's not exactlyright, but let's say it's 50%.
So by that math, she's paying 5million in taxes.
So the argument is well, she'spaying 50% in taxes, so she pays
way more than Warren Buffett.
But then when you look at itand say, well, warren Buffett
paid 15 million in taxes.

(01:05:16):
She paid 5 million in taxes.
Who paid more in taxes?
Well, warren Buffett did, butthat's part of the problem about
how it all goes and how youlook at and why money comes
through and how it all goesthrough.
Yeah, you showed me that.

Speaker 2 (01:05:33):
I want to post this I can't read it.
I got you.
I'm going to read it to youRight.

Speaker 1 (01:05:38):
I'm going to pull it up on what you said, though.

Speaker 2 (01:05:40):
So go ahead.

Speaker 1 (01:05:41):
I'll read it on my own, because I'm not going to be
able to.

Speaker 2 (01:05:44):
Ultimately, it goes back to that you know the rules
right.
You know there's just like inbaseball, there's rules and then
there's rules right, the realrules and the unwritten rules.
Right, and money and taxes has aset of rules and they also have
, you know, unwritten rules.

(01:06:04):
And I think this chart I saw, Isaw this week, is really cool
because it talks about so, atthe poverty level, like I was
talking about, they don't havethe income to invest.
Their all of their money is tobe spent, so that's why they can
never get ahead.
The middle class, who carriesthe brunt of the weight of the
of the economy, they have tomanage their money.
Sure, they can invest here orthere or splurge a little bit

(01:06:27):
here and there, but they don'treally have the access to take
advantage of the tax code,whereas the wealthy wealthy like
you were bringing up withWarren Buffett they have the
ability and access to takeadvantage of the tax code.
So while their company isbringing in billions of dollars,
technically they don't makethat money at all, you know.

(01:06:49):
So it makes sense, butultimately it's not distributed
equally Right and to say that itis is fallacy, it just is.

Speaker 1 (01:06:58):
This is an argument that has gone back a couple of
hundred years, if not longer, inthe free market, because you
can say well, why did?
Why should Rockefeller make allthis money?
Should rockefeller make allthis money?
And I don't know if you sent methat.
I I know you, you had it there,so I'm going off of what you

(01:07:19):
said, and I don't have the paperin front of me, if you send it
to me, I'll I'll be able to readit I got you okay, so so this
is an argument that has goneback um for quite a while.
I mean this, this argumentactually goes way back, even
further than that.
It goes back into Royal Englandand some of those things and
France and all that.

(01:07:40):
But so if you're saying, well,ok, why did Rockefeller?
Or why did these super richguys?
Why did they get to make thismoney?
Why is it fair that they madethis money?
And the answer is, well, ifyou're the one who's investing
in the initial, now how they gotthe capital where they came
from?
Some of these guys just workedtheir butts off.

(01:08:00):
A lot of those guys were not.
Now there are people who get.
You could say, trump issomebody who has handed his
money, at least the seed money.
Sure, that's not true ofeverybody.
So when you have these guys andthey're the ones who are
pushing and say, well, I'm theone who's putting the money up
and so I hire people and you are, simply, if the poor are

(01:08:23):
willing.
Now, again, historically it'svery different because unions
and such.
But well, why don't the poorget anything out of this?
Well, because the poor aretrading their labor for a
paycheck.
They're saying I am willing to.
And you can say, well, poorpeople don't have a job.
They have to take whatever jobthey want.

(01:08:44):
Okay, well, c'est la vie.
That's why education is the wayit is.
It's unfair.
The world is unfair, right, butultimately, if you want to have
a fairness and you want to haveeverything equal across the
board, then what you're going tohave has already been tried and

(01:09:06):
it killed over 100 millionpeople in the 20th century, and
that was Marxist-Leninistcommunism everybody's equal
everybody has the sameopportunity, and even then it
was unfair.
That's even communism in londonwas unfair, even though they'll
turn around, oh and then, oh no.

(01:09:27):
What about malice?

Speaker 2 (01:09:28):
malice did it different.

Speaker 1 (01:09:28):
No they killed just as many.
If mal killed tens of millionsof his own people as well, right
?
So, no matter what thesituation, the problem with all
of this comes down to people.
Now, you and I both know in themilitary it's very, very unfair
, because you can have twopeople join the military and

(01:09:51):
they both get put in the sameMOS.
They both are assigned to dothe same job.
Let's use something simple.
Let's use nothing super specialassigned to do the same job.
Let's use something simple.
Let's use nothing super special.
Let's just say, like militarypolice, right, and those two
will be treated the same way interms of, at least to start,
they're going to be the samerank.
They're both going to beprivates, they're both going to

(01:10:11):
get the same paycheck.
They're both going to get thesame barrack room.
They're going to get the samebenefits.
They're going to get the samethings right barrack room.
They're going to get the samebenefits.
They're going to get the samethings right.
But eventually one is going toand sometimes it's fair,
sometimes it's not.
One is either going to getahead and the other's not.
Through hard work, sometimesand we've seen this sometimes
the person who works hard, itstops working hard because he

(01:10:35):
goes.
Why am I working my butt offand all this stuff when Private
Snuffy over here he calls outsick, he doesn't go into work,
blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And I'm the one who I'mreliable, and so when there's a
problem they call me and not him.
So now I'm doing even morebecause I'm a good soldier and I
do all that stuff, and then atthe end of the day he got

(01:10:55):
promoted.
Social yeah, we've seen that insociety quite a bit right and so
and that's where I look backand I say life is unfair yeah
nobody.

Speaker 2 (01:11:09):
and just to be clear, I'm not making a case for
government redistribution.
What I'm saying is what I'msaying is right now, the middle
class is carrying anunproportionate tax burden to
the benefits that they'regetting, and it's just not
sustainable.
It's not sustainable and we'llfind out.

Speaker 1 (01:11:36):
It's been not sustainable now for 250 years.

Speaker 2 (01:11:40):
No, hell, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, when you're
talking about capitalism.

Speaker 1 (01:11:44):
When you're talking about capitalism, though, that's
something that they've beenarguing right up front.

Speaker 2 (01:11:51):
Yeah, but again, capitalism idealistically, if
done correctly, works becausethe strength is in the middle
class and everything is paidproportionally.
What you have here is abastardization of capitalism,
where the top 10, let's say 10percent is taking advantage of
the capitalist nature of aneconomy and leaving the brunt of

(01:12:15):
the of the bills to the middleclass.
That, of course, is notsustainable.

Speaker 1 (01:12:22):
Do you remember, during the 2015 debates between
Hillary and Trump, Hillarystarted going off on Trump and
saying do you really trust thisbillionaire who manipulates the
tax code, who hires accountantsto not have to pay his taxes, to

(01:12:47):
not pay his fair share?
And Trump said yeah, whywouldn't I?
If you have a problem with it,fix the tax code, Don't get mad
at me.
You're the one who's been incongress.
Your husband was president.
Right, you've been in thesenate.
If you have a problem with thetax code, you should have fixed

(01:13:07):
it right, and that's why peoplelove trump right back then I I
honestly believe that was theturning point of the 20 2016 I
agree, I agree and that's whyI'm telling you.

Speaker 2 (01:13:18):
That's why I'm telling you trump is not a
champion of the middle class,because four years plus this new
reign, no results.
We got to go because we are waybehind time.
We'll come back to that later.

Speaker 1 (01:13:33):
I never worry about what our pre-list of what we're
going to talk about is.

Speaker 2 (01:13:37):
I know we got to get the videos going.
Is there something we got toget to?
Okay, no, no, no, no, no.
We're going to run this videoand then we'll come back and
we'll talk about it.

Speaker 1 (01:13:48):
Just real quick.
This is one of the problemswith that sense.
Facts, it's like that.
I don't know which one you'retalking about.
Facts on which part?

Speaker 2 (01:13:56):
Hold on, here we go.
I believe, Mr President, myname is Pick, or you can accept
the fact that this city isheaded for a disaster of
biblical proportion.
What do you mean biblical?

Speaker 1 (01:14:07):
What he means is Old Testament.

Speaker 2 (01:14:09):
Mr Mayor, real wrath of God type stuff Fire and
brimstone coming down from thesky, rivers and seas boiling.
Forty years of darkness,earthquakes, volcanoes, the dead
rising from the grave, humansacrifice, dogs and cats living
together, mass hysteria.
I get the point, all right.

(01:14:31):
So, with that being said, thatvideo is apropos because where
are we?
The stock market is winning, Ithink.
I think BOTUS is looking at thestock market is winning.
I think, um, I think potus islooking at the stock market like
his golf game.
Right, the lower the stockmarket goes, the more we're
winning, and I don't thinkthat's the right way to look at
this thing.
I think he's.
I think he got it backwards.

(01:14:52):
So we are in a, we are in a abit of a tumultuous time and I
know we kind of hit about it.
But where do you see this going?
Where do you see the bottomgoing?
Like I, I looked at my stocksand stuff, which is fine.
I'm always buying the dip inthe curve or whatever, because
I'm in it for the long run.
But I think it's unfair for apotus who ran on on being the

(01:15:15):
economics guy and being the, theguy that says hey man, our
economy's in the dumps.
You know this, this, thatadministration has put us in the
worst place we've ever been inand I'm the guy to fix it.
And then it turns around inless than 90 days completely
shit cans the economy.
We went from being in a bullmarket or in a bear market to a

(01:15:38):
bull market anyway.
In a bull market, or in a bearmarket to a bull market anyway.
But it OK.
So here's the thing.
Hold on Before we get started.
Here's the thing.
Let's say he does bring backmanufacturing, right.
Let's say he does bring back.
Let's say it works out.
How long does it take to tomove a manufacturing company
from overseas to the UnitedStates and then get that company

(01:16:02):
built up?
And get that company built upand running and then get the
company hired, right.
And then, oh, by the way, theminimum wage in this company is
not a livable wage.
That's keeping up withinflation.
So even if they do put peoplein the factories, they're not
going to pay them a livable wageto be able to pay.
So they're still going to be onwelfare.
So it's a lot of stuff.

(01:16:22):
So when we say he's trying tobring back manufacturing home,
that's not what the hell hepromised the people, right?

Speaker 1 (01:16:31):
But I disagree with a couple of parts of your premise
To say that you're going tohave people who are going to be
getting paid minimum wage Hold,hold on, hold on, hold on.

Speaker 2 (01:16:39):
Okay, what is the minimum wage in this country?
Matter of fact, it's not likewe didn't have a huge debate for
the last.

Speaker 1 (01:16:46):
It's like 725.

Speaker 2 (01:16:50):
Yeah, and statistically, minimum wage is
not kept up with inflation overthe last 25 years.
Liberty, I hate to disappointyou, brother.
You're missing the point.
My brother, what I'm tellingyou is wages are not at a level
that is keeping up withinflation.
My brother, no, wages do not goup on supply and demand.

(01:17:14):
That is incorrect.
When you have legislationthat's set to mandate for
minimum wage and tell thecompany, hey, you only have to
pay this amount.
We have studies have shown thatcompanies and corporations will
only pay that amount.
So, yes, it's a legislativeissue.
Now if they came back and said,ok, cool, we're going to tell

(01:17:36):
you that the recommended minimumwage is whatever 20% gross GDP
or whatever.
All right, just making upsomething.
Yeah, I got you, you've been anemployer and you didn't base
pay, but you are not the rule,you are the exception to the
rule.
Liberty, that's what I'm saying.
You can't take personalexperiences.

(01:17:57):
Go ahead.

Speaker 1 (01:17:58):
Okay, hold on my turn .
Sure have, at it.
Minimum wage in America sevendollars and twenty five cents.
This is from USA Facts, whichis not a conservative site.
This is one of those factchecking sites, the left.
Sure.
In 2022, one point zero twomillion hourly workers earned at

(01:18:20):
or below the federal minimumwage Now, below the minimum wage
.
You know those are going to bepeople who are here illegally
and not being paid enough.
That 1.02 million hourlyworkers is 1.3% of all hourly
workers.
Sure, so when you say iffactories are going to come back
, minimum wage is there to paypeople who have no other skills,

(01:18:47):
sure, who need to learn how tohave a job.
Mostly teenagers, for the vastmajority.
You definitely have some peoplethat can't get a job anywhere
else, like you know, because ofcircumstances, choices, choices
in life, you know, maybe afelony, and so they can't get a
job anywhere else, but for theeven now.
You come down here to Augustaand you see billboards at

(01:19:09):
McDonald's starting at twelvethirteen dollars an hour.

Speaker 2 (01:19:12):
Because, because, because minimum wage and living
wage is two different things.
We're talking about twodifferent numbers wage and
living wage is two differentthings.

Speaker 1 (01:19:20):
We're talking about two different numbers.
But again, states haveindividual states can have
different minimum wages and if astate wants to do that, they
can do that right.
But at the same time themarketplace determines your
worth, right?
So my daughter, who's 18 yearsold, she goes out, she gets a
job, she works at that job,she's making.

(01:19:42):
She was making like elevendollars an hour, not real great.
She says OK, I'm not real happywith where I'm at.
She goes and applies at adifferent place.
She applies at Starbucks.
She goes from about elevendollars an hour to about sixteen
dollars an hour becauseStarbucks was able to look and
say here's the experience shehas.
She's able to do some thingsthat somebody that I don't know

(01:20:04):
and don't trust doesn't have ajob job record.
I'm going to hire them for more.
So when you're talking aboutfight, things like manufacturing
, you're not going to be havingpeople who are making seven,
25.25 making steel and that'sagain.
You have unions and things likethat, right?
No?

Speaker 2 (01:20:23):
you don't have unions , but the administration is
busting unions.
That's what I'm saying.
You guys, you can't talk out ofboth sides of your neck.
The administration isanti-union, so we can't have
those union protections.
That's going to guarantee ourwages.

Speaker 1 (01:20:37):
Okay, georgia is a non-union state.
Do you think the manufacturersdown the road, the Hyundai
factory right down the road, aremaking $7.25 an hour?
No, of course not.
They're making probably morethan I am.
Why?
Because it's a skill you get inand you still get.
They don't want people who arecoming in who have no skills.

(01:21:00):
You still have to pay for askilled job and you're going to
have.
Now I agree, manufacturingcoming back in this country is
going to take some time, right?
So let's say what?
What do we want to build backhere?
We want to have more steel.
We want to have more aluminum.
We want to have more preciousmetals.
We want to have more refineries.

(01:21:21):
We want to have more steel.
We want to have more aluminum.
We want to have more preciousmetals.
We want to have more refineries.
We want to have more, more,more, more.
Right, because we want to beable to.
But I'll say this one, the mostimportant one.
To me, the most important thingthat needs to come here is
chips.
If you don't have microchips,you're screwed, and right now
it's something like 90% of allmicrochips are made in Taiwan.

(01:21:41):
What happens if China decidesto go in and militarily
repatriate Taiwan to mainlandChina?
Do you think the Chinese arejust going to be like, hey,
great, now we'll keep the marketin?
No, they're going to takeadvantage of the market, because
that's what everybody does.
They're going to take advantageof the market because that's
what everybody does, evencommunists, right?
And China is a?
China is actually a hybridbetween state control, which is

(01:22:06):
a dictatorship, and A marketeconomy that that takes
advantage of the global market.
But what you don't want to dois you don't want to be, you
don't want to rely on China forsomething like chips.
So within the now I don't knowif this number is right I saw I
remember Piers Morgan hadsomebody on that reference this

(01:22:28):
number.
So I have to go huge grain ofsalt Right.
But she said it was somethinglike since the election, there's
been a commitment.
Now, commitment is also a dirtyword, because you can commit
whatever you want withoutnecessarily delivering Something
like $1.2 trillion inmanufacturing back into this
country since the inauguration.

(01:22:49):
But I've also again commitmentversus actually doing it, and
this is where the time comes inand this is where I say we have
to wait and see.
When you're talking about thesetariffs, are they actually

(01:23:09):
going to last?
Are they negotiating tools?
If we're able to bringmanufacturing back into this
country, is it going to be in anisolationist form or is it just
going to be in a self-relianceform?
Are we doing some things thatmake sense, like allowing
ourselves to use the energythat's here in this country, one
of the things I personallywould love to see?

(01:23:30):
I think we need to make it apriority to generate an oil
shale refinery.
Priority to generate an oilshale refinery because we have
more oil shale with Canada, butwe have more than Canada, but
from the Rocky Mountains allalong the Rocky Mountains,
there's more oil shale in theWestern US and Canada than

(01:23:53):
anywhere else in the world.
Now, I believe it was the guywho started JetBlue, neiman, so
he's been very successful with acouple.
He was talking about how tobuild a refinery to refine oil
shale into petroleum products.
The average refinery costssomething around $500 million,

(01:24:14):
but it's something like over abillion dollars for an oil shale
.
But we have more, but you justcan't do it because of the red
tape and because of the thingsthat are going on with the
government.
So I think there's stuff there.
I think we have ways to do this.
Is that, given time, that someof the things that he's

(01:24:40):
proposing and some of the thingsthat he has is pushing for will
lead to positive outcomes?
And that's where we always are,no matter who the president is.
When Biden came in, I hope thatwhat Biden did like did I think
the build back better was goingto work.

Speaker 2 (01:24:59):
No, but did I hope it did?

Speaker 1 (01:25:01):
Of course, because I think the Build Back Better was
going to work.
No, but did I hope it did?
Of course, because I wantedthis country to be more healthy?
The Reduce Inflation ActInflation Reduction Act yeah,
Did I want it to work?
Of course I want every policy.
If Nancy Pelosi comes out andsays I have a policy that I
think will help America, I wantthat to pass if I believe it'll

(01:25:22):
help America.
Right, and I think that's whatmost people do.
But I think the problem rightnow is we are in a knee jerk
reaction and part of the problemis because Trump set it up for
this.
When Trump said and you and Italked about this a couple of
weeks ago when Trump said I'mgoing to end the Ukraine war on

(01:25:42):
day one.
Well we're not day one anymore,we're on day 65 or 70, and that
war is still going.
So when Trump is saying here'swhat you can expect well, you
know what Then you're setting upthe wrong expectations.
And, liberty, I understand, Idon't disagree with you, liberty

(01:26:04):
.
The question and this I think Ispeak for most people is that
while most people, mostreasonable people, hope that the
tariffs are going to help themiddle class, not everybody is
convinced and in part and thisgoes back to the media I read

(01:26:25):
something from Greg Easterbrook,our friend Greg Easterbrook
about the economy.
He had a big article this weekabout the economy and resetting
the American economy right, whywould we do that?
And he quoted Paul Krugman.
Now, paul Krugman is a NobelPrize winning economist, who won
the Nobel Prize a couple ofdecades ago in economy, and the

(01:26:49):
problem is he has become acaricature of the left, of the
academic left, who goes out ofhis way to say things that are
just anything, anythingRepublican, evil, anything that
is proposed by the right, badRight.
And so when Paul Krugman says,hey, tariffs are not good for

(01:27:10):
the economy, I dismiss Krugmanout of out of hand because of
how his politics, because Idon't trust Krugman is being
real.
I don't trust that Krugman isbeing on Right and so that's.
I worry that that's that has isthe norm.
Like, I don't know who to truston tariffs.
I don't know if Trump and hiseconomic team are going to be

(01:27:33):
right.
I don't know if the HeritageFoundation who's pushing tariffs
or whatever, is going to beright.
I don't know if the left isgoing to be.
I don't know if the Foundation,who's pushing tariffs or
whatever, is going to be right.
I don't know if the left isgoing to be right.
I don't know if the economistthat Rachel Maddow I'm sure has
had on her show?
I presume, because I don'twatch Rachel Maddow I'm sure.
But you know, when I see clipsof the View talking about how

(01:27:58):
bad tariffs are, that makes mebelieve that oh yeah, okay, I'll
support the tariffs because theView are a bunch of cackling
whiny women that are more drivenby politics than anything else.

Speaker 2 (01:28:12):
Again, you ask 10 different economists, you're
going to get 10 differentanswers, right, it's just what
it is.
All I can go on is what'shappening now, Right?
And you say, wait and see, waitand see.
But to be honest with you, youknow those, those, those guys 60
, 70 years old who are countingon that pension.
You know who had ideas ofretirement.
So what you what you're facingis a bunch of cataclysmic events

(01:28:36):
all at one time and you keeptelling.
You know, you're telling peopleto be patient, be patient, be
patient.
Right.
But I have over 50,000 peoplewho've been relieved of their
duties by this administration,Right, Couple that with I now

(01:28:56):
have just sank the shit out oftheir 401ks so they have no
retirement.
I just told them to takevoluntary retirement.
Most of them are able enough tocash in their pensions.
But oh, by the way, I justcrushed their fucking pensions.
And I'm telling you, hey, it'sgoing to be okay, it's going to
be okay, which is great intheory.
But you can't call the mortgagecompany and tell them hey, hold

(01:29:16):
tight, President's bringingback manufacturing and it's
going to take a couple of years.
You can't call your electriccompany and tell them hold tight
.
Hey, I know you need your moneythis month, but hold tight.
My pension doesn't have anymoney in it and I don't have a
job.
But Trump says everything'sgoing to be all right In theory,

(01:29:37):
of course you want it to work,but had Trump ran on the fact
that, hey, I am going to sinkthe shit out of the economy and
I'm going to fire a bunch of youguys and oh, by the way, it's
going to take me a couple ofyears to build it back up so for
about for about six months onthe conservative side, you guys
are going to be eating shit.

(01:29:57):
I don't think he'd won in thelandslide.
I don't think it would havebeen close.
But what he did was said hey.
What he said was hey, I'm goingto bring us back to economic
prosperity.
Your food bills are high, yourelectricity is high,
Everything's high, and I'm goingto fix it.
And it's going to be thegreatest economy day one.
Right, that's what he waselected on, and so far he's done

(01:30:21):
the exact opposite.
And instead of people holdingthem to account, they're saying
oh, it's fine, it's okay.
My pension is shit, it's okay.
I got fired because, ultimately, I'm betting that he knows
what's best for us, Right, andlike my granddaddy used to say
I'm old Southern boy.
Like my granddaddy used to sayI'm an old southern boy.
My granddaddy used to say wishin one hand and shit in the

(01:30:43):
other one, and see which onefill up first.
What you have from thisadministration is a bunch of
wishes and hopes saying thatit's going to get better, but
you got a bunch of the societyright now.
Who's freaking hurting?
They can't retire because theirpensions are shit.
They don't have a job becausethey was counting on that
paycheck that they was workingon.

(01:31:03):
They don't have that anymore.
So where do they turn in thecountry?
Where do they turn in thecountry?

Speaker 1 (01:31:10):
Let me ask you something about that.
Sure, okay, let's say what's agood number to go off of
somebody that's retiring.
Should we say a million dollarsin stocks and retirement.

Speaker 2 (01:31:24):
I think it depends on the family size.

Speaker 1 (01:31:26):
Yeah it depends on the family size.

Speaker 2 (01:31:30):
Give me a number I can go off of.
We can do it.
A million, a million is fine.

Speaker 1 (01:31:35):
Okay, a million.
So if you're a million dollarsand we said the stock market
went down by 10%, right, okay,sure, and you're probably doing
it on an annuity, so you'redoing a million dollars,
hopefully, you're getting.
Your return on investment issomewhere around $70,000.

(01:31:55):
Now, your $70,000 that you'reliving off of that's 7%, okay,
you get taxed 15% of that, sothat's another almost $11,000.
So, instead of 70,000, you'reprobably living off around
$59,000, plus social security,whatever else, right, sure.
So if the stock market goesdown, that 10%, so from 59,000,

(01:32:20):
10% of that, you're down toabout 54,000.
Okay, can that cause short-termpain, short-term hurt?
Yes, of course, sure.
And what you just said, though,is there's a lot of people who
say, hey, I still trust that theguy because the older people
voted for Trump, that's whereTrump won Was right Was the over

(01:32:41):
50-year-old.
Okay.
So if they're saying, hey, I'mokay with it.
I trust that this is going tocome back.
I'm willing to tighten my beltand I'm willing to eat ramen for
a couple months instead ofgoing out and having steak or
eat less or whatever.
Sure, you know, I'm going to becareful with my, because this

(01:33:03):
is going to help my country andthis is going to help my kids
and my grandkids, then I don't,you know you're you're always
going to have some people whoare unhappy.
You know who's protesting rightnow.
I mean, go look at thoseprotesters.
Those aren't old people, thoseare young white liberals who are
going out doing anything theycan to say oh, trump bad, trump

(01:33:24):
bad, trump bad.

Speaker 2 (01:33:28):
I mean, yeah, we talked about that, but it's not
just that, right?
So you're saying that 50, thatfifty nine thousand dollars,
that you know that number.
Let's say 60.
Right, ok, 60 is.
60 is a decent number, right,I'm, I'm, I'm supposed to be
Right, but what I have is that60 grand, which looked like this
three months ago, is nowlooking like this because I'm
paying more for fuel and payingmore for my medicine.

(01:33:51):
He just cut the.
He just cut the caps forMedicaid medication.
So what you have is you have abunch of policies that are going
against what he promised, right?
So, because I was cool at 60K,because I know I'm only going to
pay $200 a month for mymedicine, because the Biden
administration capped medicineprices, right?

(01:34:12):
Or I knew that Medicaid orMedicare is going to supplement,
you know $300 a month, so I wasgoing to use that $300 to pay
for utilities, or you know whatI'm saying or groceries or
whatever.
Now that's cut away.
So now that $60,000 window Ihad is shrinking with every
executive order that comes out.

Speaker 1 (01:34:32):
So Okay so.
I think Liberty.
I think Liberty just hit thenail on the head with that last
comment I think Liberty just hitthe nail on the head with that
last comment, what?
And this is true both ways,okay, don't get me wrong, this
is true both ways.
If this was Harris doing allthese things, you would have
Republicans freaking the F out,republicans freaking the F out.

Speaker 2 (01:34:59):
Do you think a Democratic president would have
been able to get away with athird of what this
administration has done?
Sure, let's be honest, let's behonest, let's be honest, let's
look at this honestly.
Do you think a Democraticpresident will be able to get
away with a third of what thisadministration has done?
Absolutely, oh no, now we'renot being honest.

Speaker 1 (01:35:23):
The last administration got away with us
wearing masks that were made outof t-shirts and convincing
people that, going outside, youshould be arrested for, even if
nobody else is around you.
If you're on the beach surfing,you should be arrested for,
even if nobody else is aroundyou.
If you're on the beach surfing,you should be arrested wait

(01:35:43):
wait, wait.

Speaker 2 (01:35:44):
Because you're not allowed to go outside, you
should be arrested.
This administration has aactual department that's
kidnapping and arresting peopleoff the street.
What are we talking about?
There's a difference between,hey, you probably shouldn't do
that and hey, we're gonna snatchyou up off the street and send
you to fucking venezuela,because I mean, no, they weren't

(01:36:08):
here illegally.
They took their visas from themI understand.

Speaker 1 (01:36:13):
Okay, now hold on.
That's a whole different thingwait, no, no, we're talking.

Speaker 2 (01:36:19):
We're talking about the allowance of the
administration.

Speaker 1 (01:36:21):
Hold on, because now we're conflating different
things here.
Right, this goes back to who isa.
You can be here legally, okay,so that says students, that you
can have a green card.
You can be here legally on astudent visa.
You are here as a guest of theUnited States government that at

(01:36:47):
any point can say you know whatyou're out.
That is true.
It's just like somebody that'sat a right to work state.
If you work in a right to workstate and your boss says you
know what, I just don't like you, you're fired.
They have the right to do that.
So if a country says you'rehere on a visa, which is your

(01:37:09):
legal document to be here, andthen the country says you know
what, never mind, we don't wantyou here anymore, they have the
right to revoke that visa andsay GTFO, they have the right
Now if you're talking about a UScitizen, that is sounding
extremely fascist.

Speaker 2 (01:37:27):
my brother, I know.

Speaker 1 (01:37:30):
I know what you're saying away from it.

Speaker 2 (01:37:32):
That is sounding extremely fascist, my brother.

Speaker 1 (01:37:36):
It's not, I will agree with you.

Speaker 2 (01:37:39):
If you're talking about illegal versus legal, if
you're talking about somebodywho is a United States citizen,
I am telling you the biggestcase right now, the guy that's
in the Venezuelan prison rightnow, who was married to a US
citizen, who cleared all theprotocol.

(01:38:01):
He got picked up, sent toVenezuela.
He was cleared and got sent toVenezuela and the judge said,
hey, you know what?
That guy should be brought back, man.
You guys did that wrong.
Instead of bringing them back,what the administration did is
they doubled down on it and theyfiled a stake for him to stay
in Venezuela.
We're talking about kidnappingstudents off the streets for

(01:38:24):
emails that they wrote, man.
We're talking about strippingSouth Sudanese people of their
visas because they didn'trespond to your tariff in time.
Let's, let's, let's, let's beclear god, this is not american
at all.
None of this is is in line withamerican ideas.

(01:38:47):
This is more dictators thananything else.

Speaker 1 (01:38:52):
Hold on you've got people who are in Minnesota who
are supporting, supportingwhat's her name?
Omar, or whatever um who comesout and basic, who who basically
says, hey, this is not American, when it's the law and American

(01:39:12):
law right.
You have people who say youknow what?
We want to set up Sharia law inAmerica, not not what the law
says says a separate sharia lawis that people?

Speaker 2 (01:39:24):
is that any different than wait?
But I'm gonna ask you, though,is that any different than the
christian nationalists sayingthat they want this to be a judo
christian country?

Speaker 1 (01:39:33):
and if they're saying , if they're saying I want to
set up a separate court systemthat keeps things in the
neighborhood, and we deal withit here, according to the Bible.

Speaker 2 (01:39:46):
And I'm saying is they're not setting up a
separate court system, they'reusing the US court system.
As a Judeo-ChristianJudeo-Christian yes, man, we're
talking about.
Listen, man.
We are so far from Americanideas with this administration.
It's ridiculous, man.

Speaker 1 (01:40:04):
What would a Judeo-Christian court use as
their primary document?
I'd assume the Bible Right?
Do you hear anybody arguingthat we should have a court set
up that is strictly judging,based on the rules and laws that
are in the Bible?

Speaker 2 (01:40:20):
Yeah, what's the girl Bundy?

Speaker 1 (01:40:25):
She said she wants to follow the Bible To dish out
criminal justice law.

Speaker 2 (01:40:33):
Bundy, you got your boy in the FBI who said it in
podcasts.
I haven't seen it.
Well, I'm telling you All ofthese guys, hell you got, I
would disagree with them.
And I would disagree with themthe same way then I sent you the
interview where the deal theHexeth was saying the same thing
, talking about, if you, aboutmaking Christian schools

(01:40:57):
mandatory, because that's howyou Change society.

Speaker 1 (01:41:01):
Hold on.
He didn't say mandatory, hesaid he wants it to be.
He wants to.
He said he wanted it to makeavailable for anybody who wanted
to do it.

Speaker 2 (01:41:10):
No, no, no.
I'm talking about Hegseth, whenhe gave that interview in his
book yeah, where he was talkingabout raising the next
generation of Christian warriorsto defend the country.

Speaker 1 (01:41:18):
And he said that's why we want them going to
homeschool and we want them tobe allowed.
If that's what they want to do,he didn't say it should be
mandatory to go there Okay, ifthat's what they want to do, he
didn't say it should bemandatory to go there Okay,
let's say I will give you that.
Let's say, and I disagree withit, I don't think that that's

(01:41:38):
what it should be.
I don't think we should beusing the Bible to have the law
set out according to the Bible.

Speaker 2 (01:41:46):
I don't think it should be done.
Didn't Oklahoma make itmandatory?
Didn't Oklahoma make itmandatory that all the students
have to read the Bible in school?
Matter of fact, they gotpushback because they was buying
them Trump Bibles at like $75 aBible.

Speaker 1 (01:42:00):
I don't think that's what it was.
I don't think it was.
Everybody's mandatory has toread the Bible.

Speaker 2 (01:42:05):
It was a Bible has to be in the classroom.

Speaker 1 (01:42:08):
Available in the classroom.
No, has to be in the classroom.
Available in the classroom.

Speaker 2 (01:42:10):
No, no In the classroom.
Yeah, they put it in.

Speaker 1 (01:42:15):
But having it in the classroom.
You're having that part of thecurriculum or two different
things.

Speaker 2 (01:42:19):
No, no no, everybody has to.
Part of the curriculum.
Go back and look, man, it's apart of the curriculum.
But what I'm saying is.
What I'm saying is there is nodifferent, there is no
difference.
Right, we can't, we can't, wecan't be upset, we can't be
upset at Muslims saying, hey,well, if you guys are going to
push this Christian judo ismstuff on us, well, we want our

(01:42:41):
own stuff.
Right, how is how?
Is one thing right and theother one not?
How is it?

Speaker 1 (01:42:47):
So a couple of things Now.
First, I'd have to see what itmeans to have a Bible in class.
Does that mean a Bibleavailable in the class versus
they have to teach from theBible?
I'd be real curious.
The second thing is Thaddeus.
The idea of separation ofchurch versus state has been so
fast backwards in this lot inthis country for almost 200

(01:43:10):
years.
The original church versusstate was one of the founding
fathers I believe it wasjefferson was writing to friends
of the baptist church orsomething like that, and it was
look, we need separation ofchurch and state.
The reason separation of churchand state, the reason
separation of church and state,is because we need churches to

(01:43:33):
be protected from the state, notthe other way around.
The intent was never to say ohwell, you know, churches
shouldn't be involved at all.
We need to completely.
No churches can be in anyschools, any government building
, blah, blah, blah blah.
It was what we can't have.
Is the state telling thechurches what to do, and we will

(01:43:56):
not have a national religion.
We're not, because when thecountry was founded, you
remember, maryland was aCatholic state.
Yeah, that's why it's calledMaryland.
Okay, pennsylvania state,that's why it's called Maryland
Pennsylvania.
All the Quakers went toPennsylvania because they're
like, hey, we don't fit with thePuritans up in the
Massachusetts Bay Colony.
We don't really fit with some ofthe others down south, so they

(01:44:19):
were allowed into.
Okay.
So all the states kind of hadtheir own religious preference
and that's where people went.
The Puritans went toMassachusetts, quakers went to
Pennsylvania, catholics went toMaryland, et cetera, right.
So as they got together andthey framed the Constitution,
they said we're not going tohave and I don't know, correct
me if I'm wrong, I think it wasthe First Amendment that said

(01:44:40):
we're going to let peoplepractice religion however they
want, right.
So that's saying we are notgoing to establish a federal
national church.
Okay, it doesn't say it.
There was never an intent tosay if you guys want to have
prayer, well, it's kind of sillyto say, because public schools
didn't really exist in 1776right but right.

(01:45:04):
But if they said, hey, we'regoing to have the legislature
and if people want to come inand have a prayer in the
legislature before we start thesession.
Okay, cool, whoever wants to doit.
Whatever, that's no big deal.
We've had that happen.
We used to have prayers in thelegislature, but it got to the
point where it was twisted tosay separation of church and
state.
Ah, completely separate.

(01:45:24):
Now, that said, that's whywe're now having this argument,
this debate right now, is whosechurch, whose religion?
What should be in there, whatshouldn't?
Personally, look, if you wantto go to BYU BYU as an
individual, privately owneduniversity and BYU says if you

(01:45:44):
want to graduate from BYU, youhave to have, as part of your
graduation, out of yourundergrad, you have to have a
total of 12 religion classes.
I don't think it's 12.
I think it's six, maybe it is12.
, maybe it's one a year.
You have to have 12 hours inBook of Mormon studies Okay, so
that's part of it.
You have to have, or scripturalstudies, whatever it is, okay.

(01:46:07):
So religion.
And if BYU wants to do that,awesome, cool, great, private
school.
If the University of California, berkeley, says we want to do
that, no, because it's a publicschool Right.
Not okay, and that's where thedifference is.
Now, if Oklahoma schools resistthe order to teach from the

(01:46:28):
Bible in the classroom, okay.
So I will say right now if theOklahoma state is saying you
have to teach out of the Bible,first of all I'd love to know
what parts of the Bible they'rerequiring.
Because are they teaching outof Leviticus that you will not
eat shellfish because it'sunclean?

(01:46:48):
Pretty silly.
You know, I personally don'tthink the Bible should be used
as much as I use the Bible andall that.
I don't think the Bible shouldbe used as a primary source,
unless it is a history class.
Now then the question becomesdoes Oklahoma say you have to
require everybody to have areligion class because?

(01:47:09):
And then what do you do?
Do you do it as Jewish class?
Do you do it as Christian?
Who's leading it?
Is it Baptist?
Is it Evangelical?
Is it LDS?
I don't agree with requiringreligion classes for high school
graduation either.

Speaker 2 (01:47:26):
Do.

Speaker 1 (01:47:26):
I think it's a good idea in some ways Sure, but it
opens that can of worms.
So that's also why comma.
I also think that things shouldbe done at the local level and
that's where I say, if Oklahomawants to pass a law for the

(01:47:47):
state of Oklahoma that saysevery school will instruct their
kids on the Sermon on the Mount, let's say we're going to say
every school has to require aSermon on the Mount class.
If you don't like what's goingon in your state, you have every

(01:48:08):
right to move, and I understandthe argument is I shouldn't
have to move.
Okay, got it.
I don't know what the rules are.
As far as opting out, I know incertain states, like my
daughter, just this last weekthey had the what do we call it?
For fifth and sixth graders.
These days You're becoming ayoung lady and a young boy, so

(01:48:31):
we need to have the separationof class video and all.

Speaker 2 (01:48:36):
Do we know what?

Speaker 1 (01:48:37):
we're talking about.

Speaker 2 (01:48:38):
Yeah.
Okay yeah, my daughter didn'twant to go so as parents we have
the right to opt out.

Speaker 1 (01:48:44):
I don't know what Oklahoma has, I don't know what
the rules are, but that is thebeauty of this country.
If you don't like what's goingon in your area, I'm not going
to move.
I'm not.
I'm never living in Minneapolis.
I think there's too much crazystuff going on in Minneapolis.
I'm not moving to Californiafor that reason either.
We would love to move toCalifornia Probably the best

(01:49:07):
weather in the United States.
The geography is awesome.
There is so much good stuffabout it.
Right, california is incredible, except for the politics and
except for the liberalization ofthe state, and I'm not going.
I know somebody who's going tomove there and isn't necessarily
for or against, but we'll seehow they do there.

(01:49:32):
I don't know, maybe they'lllove it, but I don't want to go
back to California.
Spoiler alert.

Speaker 2 (01:49:39):
I don't think we will , because what's going on in the
state.

Speaker 1 (01:49:44):
Oh, okay, have your orders changed?

Speaker 2 (01:49:47):
No, no, no, so I didn't want to.
We're going.

Speaker 1 (01:49:49):
Have your orders changed.
No, no, no, so I didn't want to.

Speaker 2 (01:49:53):
We're going.
I don't think it's going to bean enjoyable experience.

Speaker 1 (01:49:57):
We'll see, so I didn't want to throw it out
there.
Kj's getting moved toCalifornia against his not
against his wishes at the needsof the military.

Speaker 2 (01:50:08):
There, you go.

Speaker 1 (01:50:09):
There, you go there, you go, right.
But at the same time, if youreally didn't want to move, you
had the right not to move, right?
I mean you could, your wifecould resign her commission, she
could, whatever, okay.
But that's one of the beautifulthings about this country is,
even though we have 50 states.
That's why, to me, the 10thAmendment was brilliant, and I

(01:50:31):
understand the historicalargument is without the 10th
Amendment we don't have theCivil War and blah, blah, blah.
But I think at the time, thatwas the whole point is we want
to limit what the federalgovernment is requiring to do,
and so if you don't want to livein California, you don't have
to live in California.
Now I think that part of theproblem that we have is that the

(01:50:52):
federal government has donesome things that are unfair and
make it really stupid and reallydifficult.
Like when we were talking aboutObamacare back in the day,
obamacare really didn't lowerany prices for the medical
service.
It extended insurance Great.
I love some of the things aboutObamacare in terms of like, if
you're up to 26 year old, youcan stay on your parents

(01:51:15):
insurance, if you're going toschool, and all that.
I thought some of that stuffwas great.
But one of the things it didn'tdo is it didn't address things
like insurance companies beingable to compete across the
country.
So if you're living inCalifornia and you have an
Alabama insurance company whosays, hey, we'll provide you
insurance, cool, and we've gotlower prices because we haven't

(01:51:38):
had as many issues, you couldhave purchased from Alabama.
But because of how the commercelaws work, you couldn't do that
.
So just to kind of full circlethis whole thing.
I think part of the problem isthat we have so much red tape.
We have so many problems at thefederal level.
We have I want and I understandthis comes with casualties I

(01:51:59):
want a lower number of peopleworking in the federal
government.
I want a lower input byWashington DC.
I want red tape to be cut down.
Where we can have manufacturersand people will go to the
extreme.
People will use argument adabsurdum right, which is to say

(01:52:20):
they'll take it to the mostextreme level and they'll say
well, if you want to get rid ofall red tape, that means you're
okay with 10-year-olds going inand working in coal mines.
No, I mean, there are certainregulations that are certainly
fine and certain safetyregulations that are certainly
fine.

Speaker 2 (01:52:38):
Didn't Florida just propose a law to have teenagers
go work?

Speaker 1 (01:52:43):
So we were yeah, you and I and KJ were talking about
that.
It depends on what the rulesare, because it was about them
being able to work overnight andsome of those things.
And then I don't know whatexactly the rules are.
But again, if you have ateenager if I work overnight as
a parent and that's the shiftI'm on, and my kid wants to have
a part time job, and so hewants to work overnight in

(01:53:04):
homeschool, why couldn't he?
I mean, I don't know it goes tothe parental thing night in
homeschool.
Why couldn't you?
I mean, I don't know, it goesto the parental thing.
But before that the rules were,you didn't allow children to
work past like 10 o'clock, Ithink, at night or something
like that.
So I personally just think itgives more freedom to the parent
.
Are you going to have somepeople that abuse it?
Of course you're always goingto have some people abuse.
There's always abuse at everylevel for different things, but

(01:53:28):
those are taking the exceptionsfor the norm, okay.
So I just think that when we'retalking about a lot of this
stuff and we're talking aboutTrump, we're talking about the
rules, we're talking about thosethings.
Personally, I will always fallon the side of personal freedom.

(01:53:49):
I will always fall on the sideof personal freedom.
I will always want personalfreedom and personal choice to
be the default as a libertarian.
To me it comes down very simplyas a libertarian, my rights
extend out until they bump upagainst somebody else's rights.
Okay.
So as a libertarian, if I wantmy kid to go to a private school

(01:54:16):
that teaches the Bible, Ishould be able to have that.
Do I think it's fair foranother kid to have to be taught
the Bible?
No, sorry, I don't.
And that's where some of thosethings.
But that's also the nuance ofit, because then you have
certain people say, well, thishas to be taught, that has to be
taught.
Da da, da, right.
But that's where you also takea step back then and say, all

(01:54:39):
right, why should I have to paya certain amount every year in
state taxes to a school systemthat I think is failing?
or teaches things that I don'tthink they should teach.
Or, like Utah, just passed a lawa couple of weeks ago that said
basically no gay pride flags ingovernment buildings, and I

(01:55:04):
think they want to extend it toschools, or they're trying to
extend it to schools Right,think they want to extend it to
schools or they're trying toextend it to schools, right.
And I have a lot of people youknow, friends, in Utah, and
they're freaking.
Oh what?
This is just another example ofTrump and I sit there and go
well, hold on.
Would you be okay if a teacherhung a Nazi flag up in their

(01:55:24):
classroom?
Of course not, again, ridiculousexample right, got it, but why
are we doing flags that are inthe classroom?
To begin with, like to me, youshould have the US flag, state
flag, and that's really about it.
And then you have even on theright, you have the people that

(01:55:45):
are ridiculous the ones thathave the everybody.
What is it?
Everybody's welcome here andall the little kids, crayon
color kids that represent, andeverybody's welcome here.
And so you have the extremists.
Goes the wrong ways oh you haveto take that down.
That's leftist propaganda.
It's like saying everybody iswelcome here.
Is not leftist propaganda.

(01:56:06):
Like, isn't that the point ofChristianity.
Chaplain, I'm going to goreligious here for a second.

Speaker 2 (01:56:14):
The whole point of Christianity the whole point of
what Jesus taught was we're allbrothers and sisters, we're all
supposed to love each other.

Speaker 1 (01:56:20):
Love the neighbor as thyself.
You know, if you love yourself,you're supposed to love your
neighbor too.
Love God, number onecommandment.
Love God, second one, like untoit.
Love your neighbor as yourself.
So you have a lot of Christianswho forget those parts.

Speaker 2 (01:56:34):
It's not a different Jesus.

Speaker 1 (01:56:37):
Yeah, it's a different Jesus.
So, ultimately, I would like asituation.
I would like a world.
I would like this country to bedominated by people being able
to get a good job, this countrybeing able to rely on its own

(01:56:58):
products and not at the whims ofother countries to include fuel
from Saudi Arabia, from Mexicoand from Canada, Because,
remember, Saudi Arabia is notour number one oil.
Number one oil comes fromCanada and Mexico, Saudi's third
behind our own.
I'd love to see us have nuclearpower plants.

(01:57:20):
I would love for us to havechip you know, a chip processing
plant.
I would love every car to bebuilt in America.
I would love every job.
I would love unemployment to beat 0.0%.
I want everybody and anybodywho wants a job to be able to
work, and the people who areable to get a job but just don't

(01:57:42):
want to work.
I want them to struggle,Because you know what you should
struggle.
If you can work and you choosenot to, that's on you.
That's not on now.
I also want a safety system forthe people who legitimately
can't work, People who aredisabled, people who are elderly
.
I don't want any elderly personto not have food on the table
and to be struggling for theirheating bills and die in their

(01:58:04):
house because it's too cold.
I don't think any kid in Americashould be hungry.
I don't think it's a radicalidea to allow charities to be
able to come into the schoolsand provide meals to kids.
Should it be government funded?
Sure, why not?
We're already spending $15,000a year on their education.

(01:58:26):
In fact, it includes $2,000 or$3,000 a year on a bowl of
cereal, and if you can't feed akid for 180 days on another
$2,000 out of that $15,000, Imean, really we can't do that.
So I think that what we have toreally do is we have to.

(01:58:48):
We have to get away from allthe media brush fires.
You know where they zoom in on.
Look at this fire, let's go Lookat how much is getting burnt.
And then they zoom out and it'slike you know one little thing,
one little smoke, or the or themaybe the better example is the
weather forecaster, or maybethe better example is the
weather forecaster they'restanding there and you know it's

(01:59:10):
oh my gosh, the flooding, andit's up to their hips, and then
two guys go walking behind them.
It's like what are you doing inthat hole?
You know why are you standingin that hole?
There's like this much water onthe ground, right.
So, and the crazy thing is, Ithink last thought, and then, kj

(01:59:34):
, you can finish.
I think that the vast, vast,vast majority of americans want
each other to do well.
They want each other to behappy, would rather have a
friend who is of a differentcolor than an enemy.
They want to be able to trustthat the government is going to

(01:59:57):
just be out of their way when itneeds to be, but there when
they need it, like insurance.
I want my government to be likeinsurance.
I don't want to have to worryabout my government until I need
it and the rest of the time,stay away.
And if I have always true andit's not as true of the

(02:00:20):
insurance company as it is ofthe government, and that's where
a lot of the problem and that'swhy we go back to the media and
we go back to ourrepresentatives and we go back
to but on the lowest level.
I think the vast majority of usare good people who really do

(02:00:45):
want just the best for otherpeople and the best for our
families and want things to getdone Right.

Speaker 2 (02:00:51):
And when it's not done right.

Speaker 1 (02:00:53):
We struggle and we want to yell and scream and, and
you know, instead of and wewant it done now too.
That's the other thing.
We don't want to wait formanufacturing to come back.
We want manufacturing to behere tomorrow.
We want the stock market torebound yesterday.
Goodness forbid, the stockmarket goes down.
We're already well over twohours.

Speaker 2 (02:01:20):
Yeah, we just hit the two-hour mark.
This one's run long, All right.
Final thoughts 340.1 millionpeople in America as of 2024.
That means you got340-something opinions on how to
run this country the best wayEasily right.

Speaker 1 (02:01:43):
We're the only ones that are right.

Speaker 2 (02:01:45):
I know right.
Ultimately, man, it just comesdown to you know, the world is a
better place when you get alongwith others.
Man, find that commonality andjust use that as a theme this
week.
Man, go out, find something incommon with somebody you
typically wouldn't do.
Yeah, chappie said it best.

(02:02:05):
Man, keep the government out ofyour business until you need
them.
We'll see how that works out.
As always, we're going to prayfor the administration and hope
that things get better.
Other than that, see you boysnext week.
Man, we are out.
Liberty, thanks for stopping by.
Have a great week.

Speaker 1 (02:02:24):
We'll see you guys next week we outtie Gee Ray,
what do you want to do tonight?

Speaker 2 (02:02:34):
The same thing we do every night.
Pinky, Try to take over theworld.
Alright, yo, let's get into it.

Speaker 1 (02:02:43):
You're preaching freedom.

Speaker 2 (02:02:51):
And bring Chaplin in the world and brings Chaplin in
the world.
Take over the world.

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