December 5, 2025 • 44 mins
Corey, Marney, & Cori talk about how to use fear, humor, and the past to move forward in recovery.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Welcome to the two seventeen Recovering Broadcast.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
If you don't make mistakes, you won't learn.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
With your host Corey Winfield, like.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Oh my gosh, I'm going into a place learning to
be people like talking to malls and there was some
of that, but it was still pretty co host Harney Winfield.
Speaker 4 (00:22):
If they don't get that sincere messaging, then they're not
going to have that conversation on a level where maybe you.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Can get through to them.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Special guest Corey Smoker.
Speaker 5 (00:31):
I don't want to hear the hero over here, but
then I know what you're skipping down the street over
there doing.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
You know, got your ass. It is the fifth of
December twenty twenty five. If my name is Corey Winfield.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
My name is Marty Winfield.
Speaker 5 (00:47):
I'm Corey Smoker.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Welcome to the two seventeen Recovery Podcast. How are you
guys today?
Speaker 5 (00:55):
Doing good?
Speaker 3 (00:55):
How are you good? Just hanging out a little bit?
Speaker 6 (00:58):
He's been working hard over there, maybe, Yeah, I've been
putting together this little video that I have, like the
first teaser trailer trip clip.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
There you got some the word I was looking for
that trip clip and yeah, I think I'm ready to
unleash it to the world. But I just got to
figure out what to call it. That's kind of an
important thing. I guess if you're trying to get people
to watch your videos on YouTube and stuff, can't just
call it like cool video with Matt You could, but.
Speaker 5 (01:32):
You want something more catchy.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Yeah, And like if people are looking for something, I
wanted to figure out, what would they get out of
this video that could help them? Right, then obviously substantuose
is sort goes hand in hand with this stuff this
video is talking about, so kind of lines up and
as for our project for the Restored Voices project too,
So it's exciting. Yeah, and it's really kind of opening
(01:54):
my eyes to what we can do with all the
two seventeen Recovery stuff, which I've said billions of times
or probably just like ten or twenty that I don't
want to use the two seventeen Recovery podcast as a
way to make money, Like I don't want advertisers to
like try to influence what I'm saying. And some people
would say, well, who cares, somebody wants to influse what
(02:15):
you're saying, Corey. But all the clips that we have,
like the nine hundred and fifty episodes, like to think
of how many clips like really meaningful stuff, like, yes,
there's a lot of funny stuff too, Marnie, but there's
some meaningful stuff in there too that really could probably
help somebody. So like, now, figure out how we can
have Corey Smoker go through every single episode and pull
(02:37):
out all the good clips.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
So how many hours is that?
Speaker 3 (02:42):
It's I don't know, a lot a.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Lot of hours. How many episodes nine hundred and fifty
and give or take.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Average forty I'd say forty five minutes.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
Okay, so like eight hundred hours, you got eight hundred
hours Cory extradge chilling.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
So can you pencil that in?
Speaker 5 (03:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Okay, good?
Speaker 5 (03:04):
In the office, right, you.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Can start forty at a time. Yeah, that's crazy to
think about that.
Speaker 5 (03:10):
That is where am I doing this at.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
That's just listening. You got to edit it and.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
All day every day. Those are those ear pods are for?
You got them right on time?
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Yeah, that's perfect.
Speaker 5 (03:23):
No, that was my birthday.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Well, we're going to open up the storage closet office
whatever you want to call it. It is an office
or was an office now it's a huge storage closet.
We were thinking maybe we could do it in there,
nice and secluded, nice view of offense.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
It's probably some version of like torture somewhere.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
And if you think about.
Speaker 5 (03:41):
It, this is like do you want to play a
game with Cory Winfield. That's the first time I told him.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
I'm like, no, no, we need to figure out Okay.
First of all, we need to figure out how to
reword rephrase what she just said, because that's not a
bad And if you think about back to the office thing,
the storage unit, closet office, it's the reverse of this office,
so you kind of be like me, but the opposite
(04:11):
in the building. We get the same view of the fence.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
There's something about the openness of that front area that
is nice. Though I'm actually kind of jealousy.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
I'm not my kind of am.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
What the openness of like the front office area where
it's like you you know, I.
Speaker 5 (04:32):
Was thinking like Marnie's office, So then I'll still be
up from when people come in and stuff. You know
that's reading that door.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
The door.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Yeah, you know, we just have like five wagons in
there and.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
A storage closet. They're all storage closets.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
I get.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
We just have to get those wagons out of there
to make it look more But yeah, you're more than
welcome to use that office whenever.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Yeah, and Corey said something about oh, or maybe it's
you Marty about to let's play a game with Corey
because that was me. Yeah, let me explain what happened.
I happened was I lost a couple of pounds and
my wedding ring has been scaring me to where the
one that's cost a few dollars. I'll have a backup
because I think we had to send that one in
for repair or something. So I brought like a backup
(05:17):
from Walmart for like thirty bucks. So that's why I'm
running right now. Well, the other day, I thought, you
know what, I'm going to put on the nice one
today because I want to feel fancy or whatever. I
put it on.
Speaker 5 (05:27):
Oh it was your nice one.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Yeah, yeah, this is real.
Speaker 5 (05:31):
I wonder why that face was like.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Yeah, And I had to clean up the car because
we were taking somewhere. So I'm in here at the
office and I come back in to try to find
a snowbrush that wasn't here. And when I was walking back,
I remember I took my glove off, but like I
didn't realize this until I was in the middle of
my massage and I realized, like, my ring is not
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on my finger no more. It's like the whole time
I can't even really like I want to say, enjoy
the massage. I was enjoying the rub down from that woman. Oh,
I couldn't do it because like the whole time, like,
whre's a ring? Where's some ring? Oh my god, Martin,
He's gonna kill me. Where some ring? Where's ring? And
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get downe? And she's like, so, how do you feel.
I'm like, well, I'm pretty stressed because I came find
my wedding ring and I'm okay, well, I'm like I'm
like I'm trying to get out of here. So I
come here and that's the first thing I walk in.
Corey's at her desk and I'm like, you want to
play a game? I kind of did it like and
I was like no, it was like it's called by
my wedding ring. I just like threw my coat. I
(06:39):
was like, threw it on the chair up front, and.
Speaker 5 (06:42):
So then he did stay fine his wedding ring and
I was like up.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
It at it and it was right where I was
hoping it would be. It's like when I took the
glow off, because I was like, man, if it's in
the car, or if it was at the dealership, because
I taken the other vehicle into there, and I was
just like, oh my god.
Speaker 5 (06:58):
I was I was thinking. It was like, I don't know,
play a game, and then now I was going to
have to do more work I don't know, and I'm like.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
No, somehow, somehow there's a catch in there that does
not work out well for you.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
Yeah, or you like walked into a spider web and
now I'm like, you know, I've been working and doing
and I haven't really been well Dusty and the spider webs.
So now I gotta get on that. You know, I'm trying.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
Yeah, you're doing great, but more of the stories you
found it.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Yes, I did.
Speaker 5 (07:31):
Yeah, Yeah, he was relieved.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Yeah. But the way you said that though, it was
just like when you have Cory, so you want to
come play a game, and then that was the first
time I tell him no, And I'm like, wait a minute,
that's this just sounds horrible. What you just said.
Speaker 5 (07:44):
Well, I wasn't going there.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
I don't think any of us you would have even.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Caught that well on this episode, on this episode, on
this podcast, you have to be like quick with with
what you're hearing sometimes because sometimes you go back and
hear it later and you'll be like, damn, why didn't
I catch that?
Speaker 5 (07:58):
Especially think that's when you do podcast with the other
people that you have done on before.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
You wanted to say Justin so bad, but no, And
I had did a podcast with Justin last week was
it or a week before, I don't remember, but it
was a really good podcast. I enjoyed that I had
fun with Justin that day.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
You know, it's interesting when we were thinking, I'm just
kind of like thinking back about like fine jewelry, if
you will, and like things that you we have of
that are substantially like costly writing. We have those things
in our lives now. But I mean I remember there
was a time in my life that anything that I
had that had any kind of value, like I was
(08:36):
so quicked upon it. I mean I do not even
take the time to sell it, Like I'm not even
take the time to like post it to like.
Speaker 5 (08:42):
Yeah, like maybe get more value out of it.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
And like I remember like pawning my laptop and then
like paying on.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
It to get it back out.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
It was just like that time period, I mean when
I'm just that chapter of my life was so like
looking back, it was it's so unreal that it was
actually that that's how I functioned. But I mean stuff
that I had been given when I was like a child,
like you know that, I mean I didn't wear but
like I owned them.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
But I just was like, this is worth thirty forty.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
Bucks, and so I just didn't even it didn't even
occur to me like I might want to hand this
down to somebody someday, Like that was not even in
the front of my head. So that's just really sad
to think about that, but also makes me happy that
it's not even you know, that's not even close to
the person that I am now.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (09:33):
See, I'm kind of like the opposite. Like I never
had any like monetary, big valuable things, but just the
few things that I did have, like I hung on
really tight to them and just made sure like that
they're always there and protected. Like you know, people come
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over to the house or I go somewhere, like that
would be like my first things I'd be looking for
to make sure that they're safe. And one of my
other like big things that was a monetary value is
I always saved my quarters as being a waitress, and
that's how I ended up going on vacation or that
was always my like reserved fun and how many times
them had been taken from me?
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Oh yeah, by having people over to your house.
Speaker 5 (10:22):
Yeah yeah, family including mm yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Oh yeah yeah. I mean you can't pick your family,
to say.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
Oh and just the company you keep that just speaks.
I mean, like not even talking about family, but I
mean that too, but just the population of people that
you know, when you're in substance use, when you're in addiction,
active addiction, like those people are not your friends, no,
like they would take from you and then help you.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Look for it.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
Yeah for real, it's seriously has happened to me, you know,
And then it's just yeah, it's just you don't even
I don't think I think that we're just so blind blinded.
Speaker 5 (11:03):
Well I don't think we really realize it then or
another part like I do remember kind of reflecting on this,
like maybe in my second year of recovery of like
some of them people I kept around because I thought
I was better then and so it made me feel
better about where I was at what I was doing.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
That's true.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Interesting obviously, nothing staring at me.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Waiting for you to put your two cents.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Yeah, oh well, actually.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
I was one of those people that stole from you
on how you look for it, That's what he's going
to say.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Oh, but change out and I needed some but very rare,
I would say. But I'm sure it did happen, probably
more than I would like to admit. But I wouldn't
like just like platinantly steal from people. It was going
towards the liquor, and I was going to pay them back.
(12:06):
And that sounds familiar, but no, I can relate to that.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
You know.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
I used to take video games and movies and whatever
I could have. You know, I would go through whatever,
you know, to try to take to the pawn shop
and just sell it. I wasn't trying to get it back,
but I was just like, where can I take this
to and how can I get some money? And those
those days weren't fun, obviously, but you know, it's good
to be.
Speaker 7 (12:29):
Where we're at now.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
And we had to go through the things that we
went through to appreciate the things we have now. You know,
and the way everybody in this room looks at recovery
is way different than even my mom who has seen
me struggling and now in recovery. It's still different for her.
It's different for the guy who's working at the store.
It's different for everybody, you know, like for my younger brother,
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my stepdad, you know, people that aren't in recovery. It's
just something that Corey, Oh cool, he just stopped drinking,
you know, changes his life. That's cool. They I mean,
and my brother and stuff father know the extremes that
I've went through, but they don't know.
Speaker 5 (13:08):
But they're not there every day seeing the hard work
that we're doing every day.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
They didn't see the stuff I went through every day,
right you know, and the stuff that you guys went
through every day.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
You know.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
It's that's what we or.
Speaker 5 (13:20):
Even now, the stuff that we still we still the
challenges we face in recovery and how we go through
them and how we how we have we handle them,
and how you know, we make a conscious decision to
feel this some of this ugly emotional crap that we
have to feel instead of destroying ourselves because of what
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we have today and the value of what recovery is
for us and what it's done for us, and.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
We don't want to go back there, you know, even
when we were it's like there's a building on fire
and we're all trying to run out. But every time
we go to a different room, that room's on fire.
That's what it seems like. That you get to a
safe room, you're like, oh no, and then that's on fire.
It seems like that's what it's always like. And then
you get to that last room and you're like, oh god,
it's not on fire yet. It's going to be, but
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it doesn't have to be. You know, like that could
be the room, but it's not. Another horrible analogy I could.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
Well, it reminded me of the one that I have
heard that says it's like changing seats on the Titanic.
Speaker 8 (14:24):
Okay, I haven't heard that one, but yeah, you're just, yeah,
you're trying to figure out a way to quit, and
you try all these different ways, all these different ways,
all these different hal I don't want to say half ass,
but you know, not really fully accepting that.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
You know, to be clean and sober, you have to
be completely clean and sober, and so whether it's switching
from one drug to another, or trying day drinking instead
of night drinking or weekend drinking, or you know whatever,
you're screw our screwed up ideas are wine, beer, beer
to wine, no shots, all that thing. It just ends
(15:01):
up leaving at least for me and always let me
back to where I started, or worse.
Speaker 5 (15:08):
Or you can get on that lifeboat.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Get on that lifeboat.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
It's hard, though it's a great.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
And it's really uncomfortable and there's not a lot of space.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
I was like a gentleman who I've been talking to,
and he was really a not upset but concerned about like, well,
what are people going to think and what are they
going to know? And d da da da da, And
it's just like, yeah, I don't think you'll be worrying
about those friends anymore. But I didn't say like that,
but I kind of did. I was like, well, you'd
be surprised of how your friends change, you know, and
how the people you hang out with you won't hang
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out with anymore because you're not doing that same stuff anymore.
And then people that do drink and they get drunk,
and not everybody that drinks get drunk, but the people
that are and do you really won't want to hang
out with them at all, because hanging out with drunk
people just not fun. But he was just really, really
so concerned with what people are going to think, and
I thought, you know, maybe this is a good thing,
because fear, ultimately is what kicked me in the asked
(16:05):
to go, okay, we got to take this serious, you know,
the fear of being that person who kills someone in
a drunk driving accident. I didn't want to be that guy.
I didn't drink and drive. I'm sure if you'd have
pulled me over at certain times, you would have got me.
But I wasn't like always let's go to the bar
room Saturday, I'm driving, let's go. That wasn't me. I
like drinking too much. I didn't want to get arrested,
and I didn't want to kill anybody. So that was
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that was Corey Smoker. Yes, it was that person. See.
I was like, nope, you're not going to catch me
because I don't like it, need it. It's my friend.
Speaker 5 (16:34):
So we were just hoping that someone would either take
us back, or my mom would answer and make us
up or something.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
But there's all.
Speaker 5 (16:44):
Right, I guess I gotta drive back guys, you.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
Know, But there are those kinds two. And I don't
even know where I was going with the story or
what I was even talking about, but that's what I.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Meant, worrying about what people think of us?
Speaker 3 (16:59):
Yeah, exactly what did I have Alzheimer's and I can't
have CRS. I could remember those initials, couldn't I mm hmm,
what does that mean? I don't remember. I can't remember shit,
Oh my gosh. No. But yeah, when you start thinking
about what people think about you and this and that,
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and I don't know, it could be a fear that
could help someone, you know, because, like I said, my
fear was being that and I think that's what made
me when I walked in the troop start the last time. Well, look,
this isn't a game anymore. Like these blackouts, Like nobody
explained to me, like what a blackout was. I just
thought it was something, Oh I cheated on my wife,
Oh blocked out?
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Oop, sorry, honey.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
You know, like, ah, that dude, he's such a putts.
You know, he's just lying. But no, and then you
have the blackouts and then you were like, holy shit,
like there's days gone that I don't remember, so that
fear kind of pushed me forward a little bit. So
hopefully the fear, I don't know, a fear of embarrassment,
or I think it's a.
Speaker 5 (18:01):
Fear of like being lonely, right, their fear of losing
all them friends. They're fear of what they're thinking of them.
And I remember sitting right in that spot twenty seven
years old, and I was like, here I am again,
and now I got to be sober and they don't.
And I felt left out. I felt not wanted to
be part of the group anymore. I wasn't cool, and
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I felt like I wasn't socially accepted anymore. And no,
on the phone stopped ringing, you know what I mean,
What am I gonna do? I'm never gonna be able
to do any of this stuff again, canoeing trips, baseball games,
any of that. And I remember someone telling me like
that I had to change that group, and I was like, no,
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I grew up with these people. We've our moms and
this that and our kids, you know what I mean.
And I remember I'm like, no, I'll never I can't
ever change that. How do you become friends with people
you've only known for a year, and you know what
I mean, do these things with like I just I
couldn't fathom that, And now today, like I one hundred
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percent totally agree with what was told to me. I
wasn't ready to hear it that, Marnie.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
I don't think anybody's ready to hear that when you're
when you're just getting clean.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
Well what about like the whole like fear of what
people thought about you and not?
Speaker 4 (19:29):
Really that wasn't really applicable to me. I mean, I
was just I was so sick. I was so just
in my addiction that when they talk about rock bottom,
I mean I literally was sickly, like couldn't function. It
wasn't like I got pulled over and you know, there
was like I was out partying.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
I was like I couldn't even keep alcohol down.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
And so it was basically like do I go back
to the hospital, And yes, I said back, because I
had gone multiple times when I've tried to detox and
because I was prone to seizures from withdrawing, and so
they would always take me in whether I stayed there
for a day or sometimes multiple days. But it was
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just I was just reflecting on it, and I was
sober enough, I remember, and I was at my mom's
house and she was like, do I need me?
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Do you need me to go get alcohol?
Speaker 4 (20:21):
Because she knew that I would seizure if I, you know,
didn't if I didn't like taper. And I was like
and she went and got it, and then she had
poured me a drink and of course she doesn't know
what she's doing, but and I had it like next
to me, and I was in her bed and I was
next to her bedstand, and I was just like, this
is I'm so tired of this. I'm so And I'd
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said this stuff before in multiple scenarios, but I was
now not in another state in an ex boyfriend's couch.
It was like I was at my mom's house in
her beautiful, comfortable bed, and I was so sick, and
she was like catering to me, buying the alcohol, and like.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
What is this.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
There's everything is wrong with this picture, Like this is
not what I was supposed to be doing. And so
I was just like, I am I'm tired of this
and I need this needs to be my decision and
I need to choose to go because she had stopped
saying you need to go to treatment. You need to
go to treatment, because I was like, I will let
you know when I want to do something about this.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
And then I was just like make the call, let's do.
I gotta go.
Speaker 4 (21:26):
So that's where that's how I ended up at the
last treatment center that I was at.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
I heard it a little different from God, so that
you pray to, You're like, God, let me meet my husband there.
I want to go to this treatment center and meet
my man, man my dreams. Let the man of my
dreams be working there. No, I was not to give
him some peanut butter and gives some candy. Let me
give him some candies, give anything else if it's vapor,
and I'll steal it.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
I was thinking, like, let me have another day of
like living and breathing, get me through this. And I
mean I had been sick before, and you guys know
like when you're coming down from alcohol or drugs or whatever,
you just feel like death and you're just like, oh, please,
just if I could just sleep, if I could just
not feel sick, because I didn't remember what it felt
(22:11):
like to not feel sick. I had I only ever
knew nausea and like exhaustion, and everything seemed so hard.
Taking a shower seemed so hard, like you know, So
it was just I wasn't functioning. I was completely it
was not functioning. And you know, I'm sure like and
(22:32):
he asked my mom about this. It was just I'm
sure her seeing me like that was just unbearable.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
Yeah, well, back to the embarrassing thing. I think that
I that did scare me too, a little bit, but
not enough. Like with the radio when I heard that
commercial that I did, and I was really drunk when
I did it, and that scared the shit out of me,
and I went back and redid it, and I swore
I'll never drink on the air again, and I didn't,
but I still drink, you know, Like so I don't know.
(23:04):
I guess. I guess you just have to look at
the fear of like I guess that could motivate someone
if that fear is great enough, and if he encompasses
that area of his life is like his whole life.
I guess because if I would have like took my
radio career and like said in the look like my
radio career is my whole life, I should probably not
(23:25):
drink because I don't want to act that way anymore,
but I didn't. I just said, well, I won't act
that way at this place anymore where I think I
needed to go.
Speaker 5 (23:34):
You tried controlled drinking.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
Yeah, I guess, But I think too, there's a piece
of it that if people people need something to grasp onto,
like a starting point as to like this is important
for me, so enough for me to recognize that I
need to change and whatever that is, whether it's their
health right. So it's like and we always talk about
like you're not going to get clean or you're not
going to get sober for you know, your wife or
(23:58):
your kids or your and I don't. I think that's
completely true. I think if you recognize that your role
as whatever that you are to those people is failing,
and that is meaningful enough to you to be able
to grasp onto that and be like, I'm going to
change because I need to be a better father, or
I need to be a better mother, or I need
to be a better spouse because otherwise I won't have
(24:19):
this stuff anymore. My kids won't be in my life,
and you know, my wife or my husband won't be
in my life or whatever the case may be. And
it's not so much an ultimatum thing that you rising
to the occasion. But if you actually, truly, sincerely are
recognizing that those pieces of your world are falling apart
in the meaningfulness of the role that you have in
that is at risk, then that's about you. Then you're
(24:43):
making that change for you.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
Okay, So what would you say to someone who's thirty
six year old male lives in Fort Smith, Arkansas, hates
his life there is drinking so much every single day
he has the shakes. Now it's getting around noon they
start coming on. He knows it's a problem, wants to quit,
but doesn't know how. Like, what would you say to
(25:06):
that person, because it's not probably not saying we're not doctors,
I'm not probably not safe to tell them to just
well just stop drinking, Like there'll probably need to be
some kind of taper off planner. I guess we would
tell him to go to a doctor.
Speaker 4 (25:20):
It's it's having that person recognize other pieces of who
they are. So like, if drinking wasn't part of your life,
which you're telling me, is this really upsetting bothersomething that
is totally just breaking you down in all different kinds
of way ways? Right, if that wasn't part of your life,
tell me what your life would look like.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
Well, I just wanted to stop at that time, you know,
but I don't know who to talk to or who
to reach out to. That would be problem.
Speaker 5 (25:50):
But I think where Marnie was going within in the
beginning is like you know, people say you know, and
I say this too, like you have to want. You
have to want it, like you wanted to stop, not
a wife telling you if you don't stop drinking, I'm
divorcing you and you have to move out. And so
(26:12):
Marnie was kind of going down that road of well,
but she don't fully believe in like that wouldn't work
because if you're identifying that your role as a husband
and what your white, you value yourself to your wife
and that role, and that you want to continue on
(26:34):
with having a valuable relationship with her and that's what
drives you to then stop drinking and change, then that
that would work.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
That's taking ownership of your desire to change again.
Speaker 5 (26:51):
But that would still be doing it for yourself.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
Yeah, usually that doesn't even work. But like for someone
you know, for someone who doesn't even know anything about addiction,
like like me, you know the person that I was
talking about was in Portsmouth, Arkansas in thirty six ers.
O was me. I didn't know. I was so uneducated
about addiction. Like I thought being an alcoholic was very
similar to like having a disease like cancer, or are
(27:16):
you going to catch that and you can get that reversed?
You know, Like I wonder how many people think like that,
like oh I don't want to catch that. I don't
want to have alcoholism, you know, like do they look
at it like that? Oh?
Speaker 5 (27:28):
I was shoot. I was so uneducated that I was
so judgmental on opiates and all that crap, when here
it is I'm the one doing the fatal one, the
most fatal one, right, you know, I had no idea.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
Yeah, alcohol kills more and it's just such a don't
get me started.
Speaker 5 (27:52):
It's it's just very mind blowing. But you know, but
to just what do you say to someone I have
no idea.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
Doesn't know and who doesn't like want to feel like
ashamed or like oh now I'm a bad person and
start using those words. I was talking with somebody at
the Sheriff's department here this morning or yesterday, and they
were talking about how the officers. They're so busy and
they're multiple you know, sud calls some and shoes disorder
(28:20):
where they're out and they're like, hey, what's up. And
there's a lot of questions being asked by parents and
family members and you know the cops that they really
don't have time to sit there and do they know
a little bit about it? Yeah, they're not professionals at it,
you know, like they don't know exactly every little detail
unless they've gone through it themselves.
Speaker 5 (28:39):
Well then maybe they need to bring on a recovery
coach to go with something.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
Well they're going to start passing on our cards, you know,
and it's like, okay, there you go. You know, at
least give them something. And you know, I kind of
was expressing the fact that we need to work with
those families too, and like if the officers could let
them know, like it's okay for you to reach out
for help because you you need it too. Mcuse people
that go through this, it's not easy, a lot of stress.
Speaker 5 (29:05):
It affects the whole family, right, Yeah, that's something I
learned too as well. And so then you know, looking
back at generations my family as well, how that you know,
has been affected m H. And some of it I
(29:26):
think not even realizing because you know, uh, back in
my grandparents' days, it was just you stopped. Well, you know,
my grandpa was in the Vietnam War, maybe World War two,
I don't know one of them, and you know, and
(29:48):
then having alcohol, alcoholism too, and then so how does
one how does the older generation? They didn't It was
a hush hush. It was just she stopped and now
you you know, you do this, But they still suffered
from things.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
Yeah, I think Nam and of course that wasn't alive then,
but I think like that skirmish what do you want
to call it really brought attention to people, and least
soldiers and their PTSD. Maybe they had maybe they were
paying attention to that earlier. But I just learned that
I had a grandfather that was in World War two
(30:30):
and he got shot, and I guess before he left
and when he came back, two different people. And everybody
will tell you that I guess that knew him there,
like he was a different person. He came back and
he wasn't the same, and it wasn't in a better way,
But they didn't know how to deal with it. You know,
so he chose drinking, and that's why I didn't know him.
You know, I don't know, you know, he wasn't around.
(30:52):
But I can see and I feel kind of sad
thinking a backup about like those people and how they
were treated and how someone did have a substitute disorder.
Obviously didn't call that back then, but they just were just, oh,
he's just old, miserable, mean drunk and this and that.
But they didn't know, you know, what he'd seen or
what he had went through and there was no help
for that. And you're just a man and get up
(31:12):
and be better and go block those bullets over there
now and scary stuff.
Speaker 5 (31:19):
A lot of trauma, yeah, And like I mean, my
grandpa maybe socially drank, like you would have a beer,
a beer here and there, but to know that my
grandpa was an absolute drunk and you know, not coming
home and stuff like that. Because my grandpa stopped drinking
me before I was born.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
Because for me, I say, obviously.
Speaker 5 (31:47):
Andy stopped smoking cigarettes before I was born. And see,
I can't ever imagine my grandpa's smoking a cigarette, you
know what I mean? Right, So weird at.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
The bowling elli or where did they go to the
skating rink? No, leaning against the.
Speaker 5 (32:04):
Actually, I guess he was a very so he drilled
wells and then he also like trained and broke horses
and not from the day I was ever born on up?
Was there ever a horse?
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Right?
Speaker 5 (32:20):
Oh? Oh, so I'm like, oh, you were a cowboy smoking.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
That guy's name was Winfield. His last name was Winfield
to Marboro man, the original one.
Speaker 5 (32:33):
Oh serious, just that out there.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
I didn't know that.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
Fun fact obviously, just throwing that out there, kind of cool. Yeah,
And there's a brand of Winfield cigarettes that you can
get in Australia maybe New Zealand too.
Speaker 5 (32:52):
I'm gonna go smoke me a Winfield.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
Smoked a couple of Winfield's regular and I almost ordered somebody.
It was like ridiculous expensive, and I was like, nah
for just some cigarettes.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
Yeah, well what.
Speaker 5 (33:04):
They call rubbages trash rubbish.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
It's like British people, right.
Speaker 5 (33:09):
Yeah. So then they, oh yeah, they were asking me
if they could have a fag.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
Ah cigarette yeah, and I was like, I.
Speaker 5 (33:17):
Haven't in Vegas, and of course I'm three sheets to
the wind. I'm like, have a fag. I don't have
any fags. They're like, no, I want to smoke alone.
Do I have any I could give to you?
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Right? So, I don't know what you want from me.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
If I had when you couldn't smoke it.
Speaker 5 (33:34):
I was so confused.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
That's funny.
Speaker 5 (33:36):
And then so he disordered me another rum runner and
stuck one of my cigarettes off the book.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
Okay, oh thanks, cool story, bro, that was a good story.
Speaker 5 (33:50):
Yeah, you don't know. I'm telling you know.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
I don't know. Martie and I are telling some stories today.
Yes you are, bring me on that podcast? Yeah, not
this one.
Speaker 5 (34:01):
I'm excited for you.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
Yeah, I guess it's it's currently the Conversation that's the
name of the podcast with Crystal Frost, and she's gonna
interview us about stuff.
Speaker 5 (34:13):
It's exciting.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
Are you nervous, Marnie?
Speaker 2 (34:15):
No, I'm not. Are you I have not yet looked
over the thing either.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (34:21):
She send us like a run sheet.
Speaker 4 (34:23):
That makes me more nervous than excuse me, what makes
me more nervous than just showing up whenever you have like,
this is what you say, and then that's what I'm
going to say, And that's what you say.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
It's what I'm going to say.
Speaker 5 (34:35):
Corey probably waited out all his lines and added his own.
So good luck, glad, I'm staying here.
Speaker 4 (34:42):
No, I'm sure she's going to be the main player here,
so I'm gonna let him.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
It'll be funny if I get in there. I'm like, yep,
That's all I say is yes and no. No, that's
not possible. So you've been sober fifty for how many
coming up on seven years?
Speaker 2 (34:56):
Yep, that's right, Crystal.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
What did it for you? Sobriety recovery?
Speaker 5 (35:03):
I don't believe you.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
Let's let's do.
Speaker 4 (35:09):
There's a snl skit that that's what they do on
it and they just respond like that's right, Crystal, and
then they don't say anything else, like they answer everything just.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
With one word.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
Yeah, we're we gonna do it.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
Sure you can do see. I don't want to mess
with her stuff.
Speaker 5 (35:29):
Yeah, not with hers. Let's do our own from the
top of.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
Our Okay, go ahead, shoot, welcome back to.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
Currently the Conversation. Today, we have two very special guests,
Cory and Morning Wouldn't for You? And now our host
of the show is.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
Cory Smoker.
Speaker 5 (36:07):
How are we doing?
Speaker 3 (36:09):
Yeah, I'm doing good. I didn't know you're talking.
Speaker 5 (36:16):
We got two seventy to the house today. So I
have Corey and Marney Winfield in here in the office
today and I'm going to ask them a few questions. So, Corey,
how long have you been in recovery?
Speaker 3 (36:36):
It's been kind of hard trying to find a like
a nineteen twenty year old. Sorry, I had to Okay,
back to the game, all right, So yeah, how long
you have been in recovery?
Speaker 5 (36:48):
How long have you been in recovery?
Speaker 3 (36:49):
Coming up on seven years?
Speaker 5 (36:52):
On seven years, Marnie, how long have you been in recovery?
Speaker 2 (36:59):
Six?
Speaker 5 (37:02):
Well, that's one for Marnie and Corey. You gotta get
on this. We're playing a game show.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
I'm sorry, did you ask me a question? I thought
I said almost seven years?
Speaker 5 (37:16):
That's two words three?
Speaker 2 (37:20):
So she did, like, how are you feeling today?
Speaker 3 (37:22):
All right? I thought we were still doing the interview.
I didn't know installed.
Speaker 5 (37:28):
I'm installed because you the host.
Speaker 3 (37:32):
I know why? Uh huh, because because Martie couldn't do
it because she's in the podcast.
Speaker 4 (37:38):
So here's the thing is, if you layout, if you
if you're a host and you ask open ended questions,
which means like tell me about your experience with I
can't even you can't just use one word.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
You could, I mean, you.
Speaker 3 (37:53):
Could bringing on you wanted to be that you want
to try it again, Martie?
Speaker 2 (37:58):
What No, I don't. I don't want to.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
Back again to.
Speaker 7 (38:05):
Marty's conversation with her husband, Corey Whitford, we.
Speaker 4 (38:18):
Have Corey Winfield in the office today joining us for
our podcast.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
Corey, how are you doing today?
Speaker 3 (38:25):
Doing all right?
Speaker 2 (38:27):
Excellent?
Speaker 4 (38:29):
So Corey, we're here to talk today about your journey
and recovery, how you started, how you got to recovery,
and how you're doing today with stand sober. I want
to tell us a little bit about that.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
Yeah, my sober dates coming up on the summer fifteenth.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
That's excellent. How about expand on that.
Speaker 3 (38:51):
I mean, it's just one day at a time.
Speaker 4 (38:55):
If you were to tell me a story about when
you were in your active addiction that kind of prompted
you to make a decision to change, I'd love to
hear that.
Speaker 3 (39:09):
Well, there was this one time when my cat gave
me an evil look. She was just tired of seeing
me drunk. It's emotional for me. It's tough, obviously. Okay,
(39:30):
So that was fun. See but no, but people will
do that and obviously we're going on there because we
want to talk. Yeah, but I could if I wanted
to lay out what's layout where you just don't answer.
Speaker 5 (39:46):
It's really hard for me to fathom this with from you.
Speaker 4 (39:52):
I've experienced it not very often though, because I feel
I want.
Speaker 3 (40:01):
To make a sexual joke. I had to stop laying
out on you, Marnie. But I was laying out on
both of you right then.
Speaker 5 (40:06):
Because you're just keeping silent. Yes, okay, but that this
is that like this positive and negative reinforcement.
Speaker 3 (40:16):
That would be problem because I think.
Speaker 5 (40:19):
Of like when you say.
Speaker 3 (40:20):
Laying out, I patrol reinforcement because you're not saying anything.
Speaker 5 (40:24):
Because I think when well, this is what I'm my
brain tells me when you're saying, well, I'm going to
go and just lay it out.
Speaker 3 (40:34):
You were just I'm just letting I'm hanging you out
to dry, like just letting you talk to yourself, like
letting you just go on your merry way and letting
you get out of the situation.
Speaker 4 (40:46):
I'm gonna be surprised what silence can bring. If you
give people the time, they'll talk.
Speaker 3 (40:54):
Oh, unless they don't want to. I don't remember how
many interviews I've had like that, but not many. But
sometimes you just run into some people and they just
didn't want to didn't care, and you're like, eah, mostly
it was the rot guys. But yeah, I don't know.
It was weird when you're like in that moment and
they're laying out on you and you're just like eighteen
(41:15):
years old and trying to get something to get back
to your radio station, you know, and you're just like
and they're just like giving you those and you're like, dude,
I did nothing to you, man, but you learned later
in life how to do that. But but yeah, anyway.
Speaker 2 (41:31):
I'm sure she'll do a better job than we just
I won't.
Speaker 3 (41:34):
Lay out on her. But I don't want to monopolize
our time either, and I'm really really good at that unintentionally,
so I don't want to. Like, so, I think it's
cool that she's gonna set this up like she did
because I think she's gonna interview Marnie's with stuff and
me with stuff. So that way.
Speaker 5 (41:53):
Kind of keeps it like some key points, not saying
that's exactly what how it will go.
Speaker 3 (41:58):
But I mean, if you talk to you justin Mitchell
to let you know Martnie probably will let you know
as well, maybe you too, Corey about like coming on
the podcast and getting to the end and I'm going, hey, oh,
did you want to say something too?
Speaker 5 (42:08):
Oh I've done that to you.
Speaker 3 (42:10):
Yeah, so it's yeah, I don't want that to happen either. Anyway.
I don't know that was fun game though for us.
If you're listening at home, I don't know if it
was as fun for you, but I hope you enjoyed it.
I hope it filled some time for you.
Speaker 5 (42:26):
But that's the fun that we can have and recovery
you today.
Speaker 3 (42:29):
Yeah, we can do podcasts about doing a podcast and
about laying out on people. And now you know what
laying out on people is. So if your dad or
somebody makes a bad joke, you can just lay out
on them.
Speaker 5 (42:39):
Me. That just sounds to me that word when you
say that, is like you're just like going all out.
You're just going to talk and let it out.
Speaker 3 (42:47):
Laying out.
Speaker 5 (42:48):
Yeah, it means like I'm gonna lay out all my cards,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (42:56):
I'd never heard it before, but it might.
Speaker 5 (42:58):
It's since it's a it doesn't mean radio interview unless, like.
Speaker 3 (43:07):
I guess that's more like laying out the.
Speaker 5 (43:13):
I don't know, Lane, you want to dry, Yeah, laying.
Speaker 3 (43:16):
Out the situation because that's pretty much what you're doing.
It's awesome, it's fun if you do if you're doing
doing it, it can be anyway. But anyway, enough about that.
Speaker 5 (43:29):
Prat of that you said one word responses.
Speaker 3 (43:36):
Cool, Yeah, obviously. Okay, Well, we have a new format
for a podcast coming soon, but I don't know when
that's gonna be, so just kind of keep falling along.
If you will, please subscribe to us on YouTube mm
and that will help you stay connected and that will
(43:57):
help us to kind of grow our channel. I guess yeah,
and I don't know. I have a good weekend. This
is why I have.
Speaker 2 (44:04):
Have a great weekend. Everybody, Happy Friday.
Speaker 1 (44:07):
Thanks for listening to the two seventeen Recovery podcast. Listen
to over nine hundred episodes on the two seventeen Recovery
app that's free in your app store or online at
two seventeen recovery dot com.
Welcome to the two seventeen Recovering Broadcast.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
If you don't make mistakes, you won't learn.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
With your host Corey Winfield, like.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Oh my gosh, I'm going into a place learning to
be people like talking to malls and there was some
of that, but it was still pretty co host Harney Winfield.
Speaker 4 (00:22):
If they don't get that sincere messaging, then they're not
going to have that conversation on a level where maybe you.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Can get through to them.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Special guest Corey Smoker.
Speaker 5 (00:31):
I don't want to hear the hero over here, but
then I know what you're skipping down the street over
there doing.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
You know, got your ass. It is the fifth of
December twenty twenty five. If my name is Corey Winfield.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
My name is Marty Winfield.
Speaker 5 (00:47):
I'm Corey Smoker.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Welcome to the two seventeen Recovery Podcast. How are you
guys today?
Speaker 5 (00:55):
Doing good?
Speaker 3 (00:55):
How are you good? Just hanging out a little bit?
Speaker 6 (00:58):
He's been working hard over there, maybe, Yeah, I've been
putting together this little video that I have, like the
first teaser trailer trip clip.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
There you got some the word I was looking for
that trip clip and yeah, I think I'm ready to
unleash it to the world. But I just got to
figure out what to call it. That's kind of an
important thing. I guess if you're trying to get people
to watch your videos on YouTube and stuff, can't just
call it like cool video with Matt You could, but.
Speaker 5 (01:32):
You want something more catchy.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Yeah, And like if people are looking for something, I
wanted to figure out, what would they get out of
this video that could help them? Right, then obviously substantuose
is sort goes hand in hand with this stuff this
video is talking about, so kind of lines up and
as for our project for the Restored Voices project too,
So it's exciting. Yeah, and it's really kind of opening
(01:54):
my eyes to what we can do with all the
two seventeen Recovery stuff, which I've said billions of times
or probably just like ten or twenty that I don't
want to use the two seventeen Recovery podcast as a
way to make money, Like I don't want advertisers to
like try to influence what I'm saying. And some people
would say, well, who cares, somebody wants to influse what
(02:15):
you're saying, Corey. But all the clips that we have,
like the nine hundred and fifty episodes, like to think
of how many clips like really meaningful stuff, like, yes,
there's a lot of funny stuff too, Marnie, but there's
some meaningful stuff in there too that really could probably
help somebody. So like, now, figure out how we can
have Corey Smoker go through every single episode and pull
(02:37):
out all the good clips.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
So how many hours is that?
Speaker 3 (02:42):
It's I don't know, a lot a.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Lot of hours. How many episodes nine hundred and fifty
and give or take.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Average forty I'd say forty five minutes.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
Okay, so like eight hundred hours, you got eight hundred
hours Cory extradge chilling.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
So can you pencil that in?
Speaker 5 (03:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Okay, good?
Speaker 5 (03:04):
In the office, right, you.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Can start forty at a time. Yeah, that's crazy to
think about that.
Speaker 5 (03:10):
That is where am I doing this at.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
That's just listening. You got to edit it and.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
All day every day. Those are those ear pods are for?
You got them right on time?
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Yeah, that's perfect.
Speaker 5 (03:23):
No, that was my birthday.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Well, we're going to open up the storage closet office
whatever you want to call it. It is an office
or was an office now it's a huge storage closet.
We were thinking maybe we could do it in there,
nice and secluded, nice view of offense.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
It's probably some version of like torture somewhere.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
And if you think about.
Speaker 5 (03:41):
It, this is like do you want to play a
game with Cory Winfield. That's the first time I told him.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
I'm like, no, no, we need to figure out Okay.
First of all, we need to figure out how to
reword rephrase what she just said, because that's not a
bad And if you think about back to the office thing,
the storage unit, closet office, it's the reverse of this office,
so you kind of be like me, but the opposite
(04:11):
in the building. We get the same view of the fence.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
There's something about the openness of that front area that
is nice. Though I'm actually kind of jealousy.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
I'm not my kind of am.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
What the openness of like the front office area where
it's like you you know, I.
Speaker 5 (04:32):
Was thinking like Marnie's office, So then I'll still be
up from when people come in and stuff. You know
that's reading that door.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
The door.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Yeah, you know, we just have like five wagons in
there and.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
A storage closet. They're all storage closets.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
I get.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
We just have to get those wagons out of there
to make it look more But yeah, you're more than
welcome to use that office whenever.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Yeah, and Corey said something about oh, or maybe it's
you Marty about to let's play a game with Corey
because that was me. Yeah, let me explain what happened.
I happened was I lost a couple of pounds and
my wedding ring has been scaring me to where the
one that's cost a few dollars. I'll have a backup
because I think we had to send that one in
for repair or something. So I brought like a backup
(05:17):
from Walmart for like thirty bucks. So that's why I'm
running right now. Well, the other day, I thought, you
know what, I'm going to put on the nice one
today because I want to feel fancy or whatever. I
put it on.
Speaker 5 (05:27):
Oh it was your nice one.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Yeah, yeah, this is real.
Speaker 5 (05:31):
I wonder why that face was like.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Yeah, And I had to clean up the car because
we were taking somewhere. So I'm in here at the
office and I come back in to try to find
a snowbrush that wasn't here. And when I was walking back,
I remember I took my glove off, but like I
didn't realize this until I was in the middle of
my massage and I realized, like, my ring is not
(05:56):
on my finger no more. It's like the whole time
I can't even really like I want to say, enjoy
the massage. I was enjoying the rub down from that woman. Oh,
I couldn't do it because like the whole time, like,
whre's a ring? Where's some ring? Oh my god, Martin,
He's gonna kill me. Where some ring? Where's ring? And
(06:18):
get downe? And she's like, so, how do you feel.
I'm like, well, I'm pretty stressed because I came find
my wedding ring and I'm okay, well, I'm like I'm
like I'm trying to get out of here. So I
come here and that's the first thing I walk in.
Corey's at her desk and I'm like, you want to
play a game? I kind of did it like and
I was like no, it was like it's called by
my wedding ring. I just like threw my coat. I
(06:39):
was like, threw it on the chair up front, and.
Speaker 5 (06:42):
So then he did stay fine his wedding ring and
I was like up.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
It at it and it was right where I was
hoping it would be. It's like when I took the
glow off, because I was like, man, if it's in
the car, or if it was at the dealership, because
I taken the other vehicle into there, and I was
just like, oh my god.
Speaker 5 (06:58):
I was I was thinking. It was like, I don't know,
play a game, and then now I was going to
have to do more work I don't know, and I'm like.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
No, somehow, somehow there's a catch in there that does
not work out well for you.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
Yeah, or you like walked into a spider web and
now I'm like, you know, I've been working and doing
and I haven't really been well Dusty and the spider webs.
So now I gotta get on that. You know, I'm trying.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
Yeah, you're doing great, but more of the stories you
found it.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Yes, I did.
Speaker 5 (07:31):
Yeah, Yeah, he was relieved.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Yeah. But the way you said that though, it was
just like when you have Cory, so you want to
come play a game, and then that was the first
time I tell him no, And I'm like, wait a minute,
that's this just sounds horrible. What you just said.
Speaker 5 (07:44):
Well, I wasn't going there.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
I don't think any of us you would have even.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Caught that well on this episode, on this episode, on
this podcast, you have to be like quick with with
what you're hearing sometimes because sometimes you go back and
hear it later and you'll be like, damn, why didn't
I catch that?
Speaker 5 (07:58):
Especially think that's when you do podcast with the other
people that you have done on before.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
You wanted to say Justin so bad, but no, And
I had did a podcast with Justin last week was
it or a week before, I don't remember, but it
was a really good podcast. I enjoyed that I had
fun with Justin that day.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
You know, it's interesting when we were thinking, I'm just
kind of like thinking back about like fine jewelry, if
you will, and like things that you we have of
that are substantially like costly writing. We have those things
in our lives now. But I mean I remember there
was a time in my life that anything that I
had that had any kind of value, like I was
(08:36):
so quicked upon it. I mean I do not even
take the time to sell it, Like I'm not even
take the time to like post it to like.
Speaker 5 (08:42):
Yeah, like maybe get more value out of it.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
And like I remember like pawning my laptop and then
like paying on.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
It to get it back out.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
It was just like that time period, I mean when
I'm just that chapter of my life was so like
looking back, it was it's so unreal that it was
actually that that's how I functioned. But I mean stuff
that I had been given when I was like a child,
like you know that, I mean I didn't wear but
like I owned them.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
But I just was like, this is worth thirty forty.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
Bucks, and so I just didn't even it didn't even
occur to me like I might want to hand this
down to somebody someday, Like that was not even in
the front of my head. So that's just really sad
to think about that, but also makes me happy that
it's not even you know, that's not even close to
the person that I am now.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (09:33):
See, I'm kind of like the opposite. Like I never
had any like monetary, big valuable things, but just the
few things that I did have, like I hung on
really tight to them and just made sure like that
they're always there and protected. Like you know, people come
(09:56):
over to the house or I go somewhere, like that
would be like my first things I'd be looking for
to make sure that they're safe. And one of my
other like big things that was a monetary value is
I always saved my quarters as being a waitress, and
that's how I ended up going on vacation or that
was always my like reserved fun and how many times
them had been taken from me?
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Oh yeah, by having people over to your house.
Speaker 5 (10:22):
Yeah yeah, family including mm yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Oh yeah yeah. I mean you can't pick your family,
to say.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
Oh and just the company you keep that just speaks.
I mean, like not even talking about family, but I
mean that too, but just the population of people that
you know, when you're in substance use, when you're in addiction,
active addiction, like those people are not your friends, no,
like they would take from you and then help you.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Look for it.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
Yeah for real, it's seriously has happened to me, you know,
And then it's just yeah, it's just you don't even
I don't think I think that we're just so blind blinded.
Speaker 5 (11:03):
Well I don't think we really realize it then or
another part like I do remember kind of reflecting on this,
like maybe in my second year of recovery of like
some of them people I kept around because I thought
I was better then and so it made me feel
better about where I was at what I was doing.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
That's true.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Interesting obviously, nothing staring at me.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Waiting for you to put your two cents.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Yeah, oh well, actually.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
I was one of those people that stole from you
on how you look for it, That's what he's going
to say.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Oh, but change out and I needed some but very rare,
I would say. But I'm sure it did happen, probably
more than I would like to admit. But I wouldn't
like just like platinantly steal from people. It was going
towards the liquor, and I was going to pay them back.
(12:06):
And that sounds familiar, but no, I can relate to that.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
You know.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
I used to take video games and movies and whatever
I could have. You know, I would go through whatever,
you know, to try to take to the pawn shop
and just sell it. I wasn't trying to get it back,
but I was just like, where can I take this
to and how can I get some money? And those
those days weren't fun, obviously, but you know, it's good
to be.
Speaker 7 (12:29):
Where we're at now.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
And we had to go through the things that we
went through to appreciate the things we have now. You know,
and the way everybody in this room looks at recovery
is way different than even my mom who has seen
me struggling and now in recovery. It's still different for her.
It's different for the guy who's working at the store.
It's different for everybody, you know, like for my younger brother,
(12:53):
my stepdad, you know, people that aren't in recovery. It's
just something that Corey, Oh cool, he just stopped drinking,
you know, changes his life. That's cool. They I mean,
and my brother and stuff father know the extremes that
I've went through, but they don't know.
Speaker 5 (13:08):
But they're not there every day seeing the hard work
that we're doing every day.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
They didn't see the stuff I went through every day,
right you know, and the stuff that you guys went
through every day.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
You know.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
It's that's what we or.
Speaker 5 (13:20):
Even now, the stuff that we still we still the
challenges we face in recovery and how we go through
them and how we how we have we handle them,
and how you know, we make a conscious decision to
feel this some of this ugly emotional crap that we
have to feel instead of destroying ourselves because of what
(13:44):
we have today and the value of what recovery is
for us and what it's done for us, and.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
We don't want to go back there, you know, even
when we were it's like there's a building on fire
and we're all trying to run out. But every time
we go to a different room, that room's on fire.
That's what it seems like. That you get to a
safe room, you're like, oh no, and then that's on fire.
It seems like that's what it's always like. And then
you get to that last room and you're like, oh god,
it's not on fire yet. It's going to be, but
(14:12):
it doesn't have to be. You know, like that could
be the room, but it's not. Another horrible analogy I could.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
Well, it reminded me of the one that I have
heard that says it's like changing seats on the Titanic.
Speaker 8 (14:24):
Okay, I haven't heard that one, but yeah, you're just, yeah,
you're trying to figure out a way to quit, and
you try all these different ways, all these different ways,
all these different hal I don't want to say half ass,
but you know, not really fully accepting that.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
You know, to be clean and sober, you have to
be completely clean and sober, and so whether it's switching
from one drug to another, or trying day drinking instead
of night drinking or weekend drinking, or you know whatever,
you're screw our screwed up ideas are wine, beer, beer
to wine, no shots, all that thing. It just ends
(15:01):
up leaving at least for me and always let me
back to where I started, or worse.
Speaker 5 (15:08):
Or you can get on that lifeboat.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Get on that lifeboat.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
It's hard, though it's a great.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
And it's really uncomfortable and there's not a lot of space.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
I was like a gentleman who I've been talking to,
and he was really a not upset but concerned about like, well,
what are people going to think and what are they
going to know? And d da da da da, And
it's just like, yeah, I don't think you'll be worrying
about those friends anymore. But I didn't say like that,
but I kind of did. I was like, well, you'd
be surprised of how your friends change, you know, and
how the people you hang out with you won't hang
(15:43):
out with anymore because you're not doing that same stuff anymore.
And then people that do drink and they get drunk,
and not everybody that drinks get drunk, but the people
that are and do you really won't want to hang
out with them at all, because hanging out with drunk
people just not fun. But he was just really, really
so concerned with what people are going to think, and
I thought, you know, maybe this is a good thing,
because fear, ultimately is what kicked me in the asked
(16:05):
to go, okay, we got to take this serious, you know,
the fear of being that person who kills someone in
a drunk driving accident. I didn't want to be that guy.
I didn't drink and drive. I'm sure if you'd have
pulled me over at certain times, you would have got me.
But I wasn't like always let's go to the bar
room Saturday, I'm driving, let's go. That wasn't me. I
like drinking too much. I didn't want to get arrested,
and I didn't want to kill anybody. So that was
(16:25):
that was Corey Smoker. Yes, it was that person. See.
I was like, nope, you're not going to catch me
because I don't like it, need it. It's my friend.
Speaker 5 (16:34):
So we were just hoping that someone would either take
us back, or my mom would answer and make us
up or something.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
But there's all.
Speaker 5 (16:44):
Right, I guess I gotta drive back guys, you.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
Know, But there are those kinds two. And I don't
even know where I was going with the story or
what I was even talking about, but that's what I.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Meant, worrying about what people think of us?
Speaker 3 (16:59):
Yeah, exactly what did I have Alzheimer's and I can't
have CRS. I could remember those initials, couldn't I mm hmm,
what does that mean? I don't remember. I can't remember shit,
Oh my gosh. No. But yeah, when you start thinking
about what people think about you and this and that,
(17:20):
and I don't know, it could be a fear that
could help someone, you know, because, like I said, my
fear was being that and I think that's what made
me when I walked in the troop start the last time. Well, look,
this isn't a game anymore. Like these blackouts, Like nobody
explained to me, like what a blackout was. I just
thought it was something, Oh I cheated on my wife,
Oh blocked out?
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Oop, sorry, honey.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
You know, like, ah, that dude, he's such a putts.
You know, he's just lying. But no, and then you
have the blackouts and then you were like, holy shit,
like there's days gone that I don't remember, so that
fear kind of pushed me forward a little bit. So
hopefully the fear, I don't know, a fear of embarrassment,
or I think it's a.
Speaker 5 (18:01):
Fear of like being lonely, right, their fear of losing
all them friends. They're fear of what they're thinking of them.
And I remember sitting right in that spot twenty seven
years old, and I was like, here I am again,
and now I got to be sober and they don't.
And I felt left out. I felt not wanted to
be part of the group anymore. I wasn't cool, and
(18:27):
I felt like I wasn't socially accepted anymore. And no,
on the phone stopped ringing, you know what I mean,
What am I gonna do? I'm never gonna be able
to do any of this stuff again, canoeing trips, baseball games,
any of that. And I remember someone telling me like
that I had to change that group, and I was like, no,
(18:49):
I grew up with these people. We've our moms and
this that and our kids, you know what I mean.
And I remember I'm like, no, I'll never I can't
ever change that. How do you become friends with people
you've only known for a year, and you know what
I mean, do these things with like I just I
couldn't fathom that, And now today, like I one hundred
(19:10):
percent totally agree with what was told to me. I
wasn't ready to hear it that, Marnie.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
I don't think anybody's ready to hear that when you're
when you're just getting clean.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
Well what about like the whole like fear of what
people thought about you and not?
Speaker 4 (19:29):
Really that wasn't really applicable to me. I mean, I
was just I was so sick. I was so just
in my addiction that when they talk about rock bottom,
I mean I literally was sickly, like couldn't function. It
wasn't like I got pulled over and you know, there
was like I was out partying.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
I was like I couldn't even keep alcohol down.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
And so it was basically like do I go back
to the hospital, And yes, I said back, because I
had gone multiple times when I've tried to detox and
because I was prone to seizures from withdrawing, and so
they would always take me in whether I stayed there
for a day or sometimes multiple days. But it was
(20:13):
just I was just reflecting on it, and I was
sober enough, I remember, and I was at my mom's
house and she was like, do I need me?
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Do you need me to go get alcohol?
Speaker 4 (20:21):
Because she knew that I would seizure if I, you know,
didn't if I didn't like taper. And I was like
and she went and got it, and then she had
poured me a drink and of course she doesn't know
what she's doing, but and I had it like next
to me, and I was in her bed and I was
next to her bedstand, and I was just like, this
is I'm so tired of this. I'm so And I'd
(20:44):
said this stuff before in multiple scenarios, but I was
now not in another state in an ex boyfriend's couch.
It was like I was at my mom's house in
her beautiful, comfortable bed, and I was so sick, and
she was like catering to me, buying the alcohol, and like.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
What is this.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
There's everything is wrong with this picture, Like this is
not what I was supposed to be doing. And so
I was just like, I am I'm tired of this
and I need this needs to be my decision and
I need to choose to go because she had stopped
saying you need to go to treatment. You need to
go to treatment, because I was like, I will let
you know when I want to do something about this.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
And then I was just like make the call, let's do.
I gotta go.
Speaker 4 (21:26):
So that's where that's how I ended up at the
last treatment center that I was at.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
I heard it a little different from God, so that
you pray to, You're like, God, let me meet my husband there.
I want to go to this treatment center and meet
my man, man my dreams. Let the man of my
dreams be working there. No, I was not to give
him some peanut butter and gives some candy. Let me
give him some candies, give anything else if it's vapor,
and I'll steal it.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
I was thinking, like, let me have another day of
like living and breathing, get me through this. And I
mean I had been sick before, and you guys know
like when you're coming down from alcohol or drugs or whatever,
you just feel like death and you're just like, oh, please,
just if I could just sleep, if I could just
not feel sick, because I didn't remember what it felt
(22:11):
like to not feel sick. I had I only ever
knew nausea and like exhaustion, and everything seemed so hard.
Taking a shower seemed so hard, like you know, So
it was just I wasn't functioning. I was completely it
was not functioning. And you know, I'm sure like and
(22:32):
he asked my mom about this. It was just I'm
sure her seeing me like that was just unbearable.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
Yeah, well, back to the embarrassing thing. I think that
I that did scare me too, a little bit, but
not enough. Like with the radio when I heard that
commercial that I did, and I was really drunk when
I did it, and that scared the shit out of me,
and I went back and redid it, and I swore
I'll never drink on the air again, and I didn't,
but I still drink, you know, Like so I don't know.
(23:04):
I guess. I guess you just have to look at
the fear of like I guess that could motivate someone
if that fear is great enough, and if he encompasses
that area of his life is like his whole life.
I guess because if I would have like took my
radio career and like said in the look like my
radio career is my whole life, I should probably not
(23:25):
drink because I don't want to act that way anymore,
but I didn't. I just said, well, I won't act
that way at this place anymore where I think I
needed to go.
Speaker 5 (23:34):
You tried controlled drinking.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
Yeah, I guess, But I think too, there's a piece
of it that if people people need something to grasp onto,
like a starting point as to like this is important
for me, so enough for me to recognize that I
need to change and whatever that is, whether it's their
health right. So it's like and we always talk about
like you're not going to get clean or you're not
going to get sober for you know, your wife or
(23:58):
your kids or your and I don't. I think that's
completely true. I think if you recognize that your role
as whatever that you are to those people is failing,
and that is meaningful enough to you to be able
to grasp onto that and be like, I'm going to
change because I need to be a better father, or
I need to be a better mother, or I need
to be a better spouse because otherwise I won't have
(24:19):
this stuff anymore. My kids won't be in my life,
and you know, my wife or my husband won't be
in my life or whatever the case may be. And
it's not so much an ultimatum thing that you rising
to the occasion. But if you actually, truly, sincerely are
recognizing that those pieces of your world are falling apart
in the meaningfulness of the role that you have in
that is at risk, then that's about you. Then you're
(24:43):
making that change for you.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
Okay, So what would you say to someone who's thirty
six year old male lives in Fort Smith, Arkansas, hates
his life there is drinking so much every single day
he has the shakes. Now it's getting around noon they
start coming on. He knows it's a problem, wants to quit,
but doesn't know how. Like, what would you say to
(25:06):
that person, because it's not probably not saying we're not doctors,
I'm not probably not safe to tell them to just
well just stop drinking, Like there'll probably need to be
some kind of taper off planner. I guess we would
tell him to go to a doctor.
Speaker 4 (25:20):
It's it's having that person recognize other pieces of who
they are. So like, if drinking wasn't part of your life,
which you're telling me, is this really upsetting bothersomething that
is totally just breaking you down in all different kinds
of way ways? Right, if that wasn't part of your life,
tell me what your life would look like.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
Well, I just wanted to stop at that time, you know,
but I don't know who to talk to or who
to reach out to. That would be problem.
Speaker 5 (25:50):
But I think where Marnie was going within in the
beginning is like you know, people say you know, and
I say this too, like you have to want. You
have to want it, like you wanted to stop, not
a wife telling you if you don't stop drinking, I'm
divorcing you and you have to move out. And so
(26:12):
Marnie was kind of going down that road of well,
but she don't fully believe in like that wouldn't work
because if you're identifying that your role as a husband
and what your white, you value yourself to your wife
and that role, and that you want to continue on
(26:34):
with having a valuable relationship with her and that's what
drives you to then stop drinking and change, then that
that would work.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
That's taking ownership of your desire to change again.
Speaker 5 (26:51):
But that would still be doing it for yourself.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
Yeah, usually that doesn't even work. But like for someone
you know, for someone who doesn't even know anything about addiction,
like like me, you know the person that I was
talking about was in Portsmouth, Arkansas in thirty six ers.
O was me. I didn't know. I was so uneducated
about addiction. Like I thought being an alcoholic was very
similar to like having a disease like cancer, or are
(27:16):
you going to catch that and you can get that reversed?
You know, Like I wonder how many people think like that,
like oh I don't want to catch that. I don't
want to have alcoholism, you know, like do they look
at it like that? Oh?
Speaker 5 (27:28):
I was shoot. I was so uneducated that I was
so judgmental on opiates and all that crap, when here
it is I'm the one doing the fatal one, the
most fatal one, right, you know, I had no idea.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
Yeah, alcohol kills more and it's just such a don't
get me started.
Speaker 5 (27:52):
It's it's just very mind blowing. But you know, but
to just what do you say to someone I have
no idea.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
Doesn't know and who doesn't like want to feel like
ashamed or like oh now I'm a bad person and
start using those words. I was talking with somebody at
the Sheriff's department here this morning or yesterday, and they
were talking about how the officers. They're so busy and
they're multiple you know, sud calls some and shoes disorder
(28:20):
where they're out and they're like, hey, what's up. And
there's a lot of questions being asked by parents and
family members and you know the cops that they really
don't have time to sit there and do they know
a little bit about it? Yeah, they're not professionals at it,
you know, like they don't know exactly every little detail
unless they've gone through it themselves.
Speaker 5 (28:39):
Well then maybe they need to bring on a recovery
coach to go with something.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
Well they're going to start passing on our cards, you know,
and it's like, okay, there you go. You know, at
least give them something. And you know, I kind of
was expressing the fact that we need to work with
those families too, and like if the officers could let
them know, like it's okay for you to reach out
for help because you you need it too. Mcuse people
that go through this, it's not easy, a lot of stress.
Speaker 5 (29:05):
It affects the whole family, right, Yeah, that's something I
learned too as well. And so then you know, looking
back at generations my family as well, how that you know,
has been affected m H. And some of it I
(29:26):
think not even realizing because you know, uh, back in
my grandparents' days, it was just you stopped. Well, you know,
my grandpa was in the Vietnam War, maybe World War two,
I don't know one of them, and you know, and
(29:48):
then having alcohol, alcoholism too, and then so how does
one how does the older generation? They didn't It was
a hush hush. It was just she stopped and now
you you know, you do this, But they still suffered
from things.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
Yeah, I think Nam and of course that wasn't alive then,
but I think like that skirmish what do you want
to call it really brought attention to people, and least
soldiers and their PTSD. Maybe they had maybe they were
paying attention to that earlier. But I just learned that
I had a grandfather that was in World War two
(30:30):
and he got shot, and I guess before he left
and when he came back, two different people. And everybody
will tell you that I guess that knew him there,
like he was a different person. He came back and
he wasn't the same, and it wasn't in a better way,
But they didn't know how to deal with it. You know,
so he chose drinking, and that's why I didn't know him.
You know, I don't know, you know, he wasn't around.
(30:52):
But I can see and I feel kind of sad
thinking a backup about like those people and how they
were treated and how someone did have a substitute disorder.
Obviously didn't call that back then, but they just were just, oh,
he's just old, miserable, mean drunk and this and that.
But they didn't know, you know, what he'd seen or
what he had went through and there was no help
for that. And you're just a man and get up
(31:12):
and be better and go block those bullets over there
now and scary stuff.
Speaker 5 (31:19):
A lot of trauma, yeah, And like I mean, my
grandpa maybe socially drank, like you would have a beer,
a beer here and there, but to know that my
grandpa was an absolute drunk and you know, not coming
home and stuff like that. Because my grandpa stopped drinking
me before I was born.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
Because for me, I say, obviously.
Speaker 5 (31:47):
Andy stopped smoking cigarettes before I was born. And see,
I can't ever imagine my grandpa's smoking a cigarette, you
know what I mean? Right, So weird at.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
The bowling elli or where did they go to the
skating rink? No, leaning against the.
Speaker 5 (32:04):
Actually, I guess he was a very so he drilled
wells and then he also like trained and broke horses
and not from the day I was ever born on up?
Was there ever a horse?
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Right?
Speaker 5 (32:20):
Oh? Oh, so I'm like, oh, you were a cowboy smoking.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
That guy's name was Winfield. His last name was Winfield
to Marboro man, the original one.
Speaker 5 (32:33):
Oh serious, just that out there.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
I didn't know that.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
Fun fact obviously, just throwing that out there, kind of cool. Yeah,
And there's a brand of Winfield cigarettes that you can
get in Australia maybe New Zealand too.
Speaker 5 (32:52):
I'm gonna go smoke me a Winfield.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
Smoked a couple of Winfield's regular and I almost ordered somebody.
It was like ridiculous expensive, and I was like, nah
for just some cigarettes.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
Yeah, well what.
Speaker 5 (33:04):
They call rubbages trash rubbish.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
It's like British people, right.
Speaker 5 (33:09):
Yeah. So then they, oh yeah, they were asking me
if they could have a fag.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
Ah cigarette yeah, and I was like, I.
Speaker 5 (33:17):
Haven't in Vegas, and of course I'm three sheets to
the wind. I'm like, have a fag. I don't have
any fags. They're like, no, I want to smoke alone.
Do I have any I could give to you?
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Right? So, I don't know what you want from me.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
If I had when you couldn't smoke it.
Speaker 5 (33:34):
I was so confused.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
That's funny.
Speaker 5 (33:36):
And then so he disordered me another rum runner and
stuck one of my cigarettes off the book.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
Okay, oh thanks, cool story, bro, that was a good story.
Speaker 5 (33:50):
Yeah, you don't know. I'm telling you know.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
I don't know. Martie and I are telling some stories today.
Yes you are, bring me on that podcast? Yeah, not
this one.
Speaker 5 (34:01):
I'm excited for you.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
Yeah, I guess it's it's currently the Conversation that's the
name of the podcast with Crystal Frost, and she's gonna
interview us about stuff.
Speaker 5 (34:13):
It's exciting.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
Are you nervous, Marnie?
Speaker 2 (34:15):
No, I'm not. Are you I have not yet looked
over the thing either.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (34:21):
She send us like a run sheet.
Speaker 4 (34:23):
That makes me more nervous than excuse me, what makes
me more nervous than just showing up whenever you have like,
this is what you say, and then that's what I'm
going to say, And that's what you say.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
It's what I'm going to say.
Speaker 5 (34:35):
Corey probably waited out all his lines and added his own.
So good luck, glad, I'm staying here.
Speaker 4 (34:42):
No, I'm sure she's going to be the main player here,
so I'm gonna let him.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
It'll be funny if I get in there. I'm like, yep,
That's all I say is yes and no. No, that's
not possible. So you've been sober fifty for how many
coming up on seven years?
Speaker 2 (34:56):
Yep, that's right, Crystal.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
What did it for you? Sobriety recovery?
Speaker 5 (35:03):
I don't believe you.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
Let's let's do.
Speaker 4 (35:09):
There's a snl skit that that's what they do on
it and they just respond like that's right, Crystal, and
then they don't say anything else, like they answer everything just.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
With one word.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
Yeah, we're we gonna do it.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
Sure you can do see. I don't want to mess
with her stuff.
Speaker 5 (35:29):
Yeah, not with hers. Let's do our own from the
top of.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
Our Okay, go ahead, shoot, welcome back to.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
Currently the Conversation. Today, we have two very special guests,
Cory and Morning Wouldn't for You? And now our host
of the show is.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
Cory Smoker.
Speaker 5 (36:07):
How are we doing?
Speaker 3 (36:09):
Yeah, I'm doing good. I didn't know you're talking.
Speaker 5 (36:16):
We got two seventy to the house today. So I
have Corey and Marney Winfield in here in the office
today and I'm going to ask them a few questions. So, Corey,
how long have you been in recovery?
Speaker 3 (36:36):
It's been kind of hard trying to find a like
a nineteen twenty year old. Sorry, I had to Okay,
back to the game, all right, So yeah, how long
you have been in recovery?
Speaker 5 (36:48):
How long have you been in recovery?
Speaker 3 (36:49):
Coming up on seven years?
Speaker 5 (36:52):
On seven years, Marnie, how long have you been in recovery?
Speaker 2 (36:59):
Six?
Speaker 5 (37:02):
Well, that's one for Marnie and Corey. You gotta get
on this. We're playing a game show.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
I'm sorry, did you ask me a question? I thought
I said almost seven years?
Speaker 5 (37:16):
That's two words three?
Speaker 2 (37:20):
So she did, like, how are you feeling today?
Speaker 3 (37:22):
All right? I thought we were still doing the interview.
I didn't know installed.
Speaker 5 (37:28):
I'm installed because you the host.
Speaker 3 (37:32):
I know why? Uh huh, because because Martie couldn't do
it because she's in the podcast.
Speaker 4 (37:38):
So here's the thing is, if you layout, if you
if you're a host and you ask open ended questions,
which means like tell me about your experience with I
can't even you can't just use one word.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
You could, I mean, you.
Speaker 3 (37:53):
Could bringing on you wanted to be that you want
to try it again, Martie?
Speaker 2 (37:58):
What No, I don't. I don't want to.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
Back again to.
Speaker 7 (38:05):
Marty's conversation with her husband, Corey Whitford, we.
Speaker 4 (38:18):
Have Corey Winfield in the office today joining us for
our podcast.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
Corey, how are you doing today?
Speaker 3 (38:25):
Doing all right?
Speaker 2 (38:27):
Excellent?
Speaker 4 (38:29):
So Corey, we're here to talk today about your journey
and recovery, how you started, how you got to recovery,
and how you're doing today with stand sober. I want
to tell us a little bit about that.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
Yeah, my sober dates coming up on the summer fifteenth.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
That's excellent. How about expand on that.
Speaker 3 (38:51):
I mean, it's just one day at a time.
Speaker 4 (38:55):
If you were to tell me a story about when
you were in your active addiction that kind of prompted
you to make a decision to change, I'd love to
hear that.
Speaker 3 (39:09):
Well, there was this one time when my cat gave
me an evil look. She was just tired of seeing
me drunk. It's emotional for me. It's tough, obviously. Okay,
(39:30):
So that was fun. See but no, but people will
do that and obviously we're going on there because we
want to talk. Yeah, but I could if I wanted
to lay out what's layout where you just don't answer.
Speaker 5 (39:46):
It's really hard for me to fathom this with from you.
Speaker 4 (39:52):
I've experienced it not very often though, because I feel
I want.
Speaker 3 (40:01):
To make a sexual joke. I had to stop laying
out on you, Marnie. But I was laying out on
both of you right then.
Speaker 5 (40:06):
Because you're just keeping silent. Yes, okay, but that this
is that like this positive and negative reinforcement.
Speaker 3 (40:16):
That would be problem because I think.
Speaker 5 (40:19):
Of like when you say.
Speaker 3 (40:20):
Laying out, I patrol reinforcement because you're not saying anything.
Speaker 5 (40:24):
Because I think when well, this is what I'm my
brain tells me when you're saying, well, I'm going to
go and just lay it out.
Speaker 3 (40:34):
You were just I'm just letting I'm hanging you out
to dry, like just letting you talk to yourself, like
letting you just go on your merry way and letting
you get out of the situation.
Speaker 4 (40:46):
I'm gonna be surprised what silence can bring. If you
give people the time, they'll talk.
Speaker 3 (40:54):
Oh, unless they don't want to. I don't remember how
many interviews I've had like that, but not many. But
sometimes you just run into some people and they just
didn't want to didn't care, and you're like, eah, mostly
it was the rot guys. But yeah, I don't know.
It was weird when you're like in that moment and
they're laying out on you and you're just like eighteen
(41:15):
years old and trying to get something to get back
to your radio station, you know, and you're just like
and they're just like giving you those and you're like, dude,
I did nothing to you, man, but you learned later
in life how to do that. But but yeah, anyway.
Speaker 2 (41:31):
I'm sure she'll do a better job than we just
I won't.
Speaker 3 (41:34):
Lay out on her. But I don't want to monopolize
our time either, and I'm really really good at that unintentionally,
so I don't want to. Like, so, I think it's
cool that she's gonna set this up like she did
because I think she's gonna interview Marnie's with stuff and
me with stuff. So that way.
Speaker 5 (41:53):
Kind of keeps it like some key points, not saying
that's exactly what how it will go.
Speaker 3 (41:58):
But I mean, if you talk to you justin Mitchell
to let you know Martnie probably will let you know
as well, maybe you too, Corey about like coming on
the podcast and getting to the end and I'm going, hey, oh,
did you want to say something too?
Speaker 5 (42:08):
Oh I've done that to you.
Speaker 3 (42:10):
Yeah, so it's yeah, I don't want that to happen either. Anyway.
I don't know that was fun game though for us.
If you're listening at home, I don't know if it
was as fun for you, but I hope you enjoyed it.
I hope it filled some time for you.
Speaker 5 (42:26):
But that's the fun that we can have and recovery
you today.
Speaker 3 (42:29):
Yeah, we can do podcasts about doing a podcast and
about laying out on people. And now you know what
laying out on people is. So if your dad or
somebody makes a bad joke, you can just lay out
on them.
Speaker 5 (42:39):
Me. That just sounds to me that word when you
say that, is like you're just like going all out.
You're just going to talk and let it out.
Speaker 3 (42:47):
Laying out.
Speaker 5 (42:48):
Yeah, it means like I'm gonna lay out all my cards,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (42:56):
I'd never heard it before, but it might.
Speaker 5 (42:58):
It's since it's a it doesn't mean radio interview unless, like.
Speaker 3 (43:07):
I guess that's more like laying out the.
Speaker 5 (43:13):
I don't know, Lane, you want to dry, Yeah, laying.
Speaker 3 (43:16):
Out the situation because that's pretty much what you're doing.
It's awesome, it's fun if you do if you're doing
doing it, it can be anyway. But anyway, enough about that.
Speaker 5 (43:29):
Prat of that you said one word responses.
Speaker 3 (43:36):
Cool, Yeah, obviously. Okay, Well, we have a new format
for a podcast coming soon, but I don't know when
that's gonna be, so just kind of keep falling along.
If you will, please subscribe to us on YouTube mm
and that will help you stay connected and that will
(43:57):
help us to kind of grow our channel. I guess yeah,
and I don't know. I have a good weekend. This
is why I have.
Speaker 2 (44:04):
Have a great weekend. Everybody, Happy Friday.
Speaker 1 (44:07):
Thanks for listening to the two seventeen Recovery podcast. Listen
to over nine hundred episodes on the two seventeen Recovery
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