2+2 Is Chicken
Everyone has a story. Life can be crazy, and sometimes life hands you something that you never asked for or could never see coming. In the classroom called "life," we are under the false illusion that the formula of "2+2" would always yield the "correct" answer of "4." Sometimes it works out that way, but when it doesn’t, it’s a total bummerama. We can't make any promises, nor do we have a magic wand that we can wave over you to make it all go away, but we can promise real stories of people who are struggling too. And, because neither of us know how to tell stories without having some fun at the same time, we're going to throw in a few laughs along the way. So, if you feel isolated, discouraged, or embarrassed by a life circumstance, or, even none at all, hang out with us and hopefully you won't feel so alone. And if you're at all curious about how vomit, a blue man, a bar of soap and the number #25 in a toilet can possibly be topics of our conversation, we welcome you into our craziness. Peace Out, Sarah and Courtney
Episodes
“Derek Frazier”
Transitions, huh? Have you ever found yourself in one of those moments where you're like, "What just happened?" Even when you see it coming, it can feel like trying to tackle a running back who's zigzagging all over the field. (We’ve never done that, but it sounds like it might be a majorly difficult thing to do.)
Well, it just so happens that we’ve got a real game-changer for you today. Our guest ...
“Debby Thompson”
What if your '2+2 Is Chicken' meant going undercover to communist Poland and living a double life? On today’s episode, Debby Thompson, author of “Pulling Back the Iron Curtain,” sits down with us and takes us back in time to the year 1977 when she, her husband, and their infant daughter made the courageous decision to leave behind all they had ever known in the U.S. only to gain everything by fo...
"Emmalee Smith"
On today’s episode, we have the privilege of speaking with Emmalee Smith, who, despite facing the numerous challenges of being diagnosed with Multiple Sclerosis (MS), shines as the BRIGHTEST ray of sunshine we've ever encountered (so much so that we had to keep our solar eclipse glasses on for this interview)!
It hasn't been easy, nor has it ever been, but Emmalee shares genu...
“B.T.B.” (Unwrapped Version)
"We didn’t need a net, nor the quick reflexes (which, is a good thing because we don’t have them anymore…or, really ever), that it would take to catch this 'Sassy Skipper.' Come with us as we go 'Behind the Basket' with the Easter Bunny himself. No topic is 'off limits' as he spills the 'jelly' beans regarding everything from his workout routine to what he enj...
"Charlie Sasser”
Have you somehow allowed your past mistakes to define you?
If you have NEVER, EVER, EVER done that, we salute you. But just in case you’ve ever let words such as "failure," "worthless," "stupid," etc., speak louder than the truth, this episode just might resonate with you. So, we were really glad that our courageous, humble, and inspirational friend Charlie Sasser chose to b...
“Rob Shepherd Jr. "
Some may call it nepotism, but we’re calling it awesome.
In today’s episode, pastor, husband, father of twins, author, and, MOST importantly, Sarah’s younger brother, Rob Shepherd, shares, from a husband’s point of view, what it was like for him and his wife to struggle with infertility. It’s a candid and insightful retelling from a man’s perspective, and we’re so grateful that he chose to open up wi...
"Jen Pollock Michel"
We're still pinching ourselves!!!! Today, award-winning author, speaker, coach for aspiring writers, wife, mother, mentor, and friend, Jen Pollock Michel, stops by to talk with us! In this episode, Jen walks us through what it's like for her and her family to care for her mother, who suffers from Alzheimer's. She also shares insights about the disease itself and offers advice o...
“Sarah Burggraf”
WHAT THE WHAT? Our very own, Sarah Burggraf is in the house! In this episode, Sarah discusses what it was like to go through her divorce as well as how to encourage others who have found themselves in a difficult relationship.
Spoiler Alert: If you're discouraged by your own dating life, or perhaps your "past" dating life, Courtney shares her own "dating mishap" that will most likel...
"Michelle Moore"
We couldn’t find a sweeter, more genuine, braver, friend, mother, cancer-survivor than Michelle. We are so thankful that she chose to share her story for the first time with us. Michelle walks us thru her battle with cancer as well as offers insight and hope for those that are suffering.
Spoiler Alert: Her life isn’t going the way she had planned…
“Robert Shepherd”
We’re celebrating our first episode AND the fact that we actually get to kick our podcast off with a celebrity! We were so fortunate to be able to take a few minutes of his time (pre-2024), and hear about his path to becoming an actor who now has over 100 movie credits to his name!
Spoiler alert, his path didn’t quite go the way that he had planned…
And, as promised, here is the link to his book:
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