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We go deep on how product and operations intersect when you’re building an operating system for real estate. Catherine explains why diverse perspectives improve outcomes and how leaders can intentionally signal what matters by recognizing thoughtful execution, not just loud opinions. Her take on the future of work is refreshingly actionable: AI changes the “how,” not the “why.” Whether you specialize or stay broad, treat curiosity like a muscle. Run small experiments, unlearn out-of-date tactics, and stay anchored to clear business outcomes.
You’ll hear practical frameworks for deciding under ambiguity. widen inputs, seek data, welcome dissent, and iterate with agility. Catherine also breaks down visibility tactics for women who are competent but overlooked: volunteer for updates, lead slices of complex projects, and request precise post-meeting feedback. Her story of integrating a UK acquisition while battling imposter syndrome reveals a simple truth: courage plus clarity compounds into trust, scope, and impact.
If you care about culture design, product leadership, AI fluency, and building a resilient career in tech, this conversation is a blueprint you can use today. Follow along, share it with a friend who needs a nudge, and subscribe to get more candid, practical conversations. Loved this one? Leave a review and tell us the bold step you’re taking next.
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