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June 24, 2025 56 mins

What do pink bread, purple houses, and a one-man jet helicopter have to do with small business? In this second installment of the Dallas Legends series, you’ll find out—and you’ll walk away with real insight on entrepreneurship, resilience, and building a name that lasts.

Dean Castelhano welcomes Joe Graham, founder of Graham Mortgage, to Small Business, Living It for an unforgettable deep dive into six decades of business in Dallas.
Joe isn’t just a financier—he’s a storyteller, a risk-taker, and a cornerstone of the city’s real estate ecosystem. From his early days as a numbers-obsessed kid in Midland, Texas to becoming the go-to lender for complex, fast-moving deals. Joe’s journey is a masterclass in small business resilience, financial strategy, and honoring your word.


Through candid stories and sharp humor, Joe and Dean unpack the wild ride of surviving (and thriving) through the Savings & Loan crisis, the rise of ninja loans, and the birth of unconventional ventures like soy-based flour, bar ownership, and investment packages with mystery motel loans. You’ll hear how Joe spotted market opportunities others missed, why private lending filled crucial gaps in a broken system, and how Dallas evolved from a punchline into a world-class business hub.

Listeners interested in entrepreneurship stories, startup challenges, or the evolution of Dallas real estate will find this episode especially valuable. It’s not just about finance—it’s about grit, smart risk, and the relationships that make it all work.

If Joe’s stories sparked your curiosity or gave you a laugh, be sure to follow the show, leave a review, and share your own small business wins or lessons—we’d love to hear how you’re living it.


00:00 – Intro to the Dallas Legends Series
01:57 – Joe Graham’s Business Journey Begins
04:00 – Early Career and Entrepreneurial Experiments
11:58 – Pink Bread, Purple Houses, and Failed Bars
20:00 – The Savings & Loan Crisis Hits
27:01 – Ninja Loans and Financial Recklessness
32:55 – Finding Opportunity in Chaos
37:48 – Dallas’ Rise as a Business Hub
41:11 – Liquidity, Lending, and the Future of Graham Mortgage
52:22 – Legacy, Loyalty, and Final Thoughts

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