3 Guys Before The Game - WVU Baseball Coach Steve Sabins Visits (Episode 646)

Life is good for Mountaineer baseball coach Steve Sabins.  He not only led WVU to the Big 12 Conference regular season championship and an NCAA Super Regional in his debut season, he's just agreed to a contract extension that will keep him in Morgantown through 2031. 

In this episode, Sabins reflects on his inaugural season and explains his vision of the Mountaineer program in the years to come. 

It's an information-packed and entertaining visit with the man in charge of WVU baseball. 

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:11):
Hey, what do you say. Don't look now, but that
calendar is winding down in the month of July, which
means the summer series on Three Guys before the Game
is also starting to wind down. You know a lot
of people get complacent when things come to the end.
Not the summer series. We just get better and better
and better as time goes on. Willy says, save the

(00:32):
best for last.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
Yes, are we last?

Speaker 1 (00:36):
Though we're close? We got one of them? Well, only
I want like one more of these.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
I thought you were gonna say, because the days are
getting shorter, and then we're about to turn the page.
It's almost spring. We're gonna talk about.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
Baseb pretty close. We've got Have I ever said this before?
We got a good one for you, first time Mountaineer
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we start a show. Most of the time, I'm excited
when it's over too. I mean, I enjoy the whole
process here, but I'm fanboying a little bit today. I'm excited, seriously,

(01:50):
Like several times this morning, I said to myself, this
is gonna be good. We've got Sabans in here again.
This is gonna be good. Welcome back to the show.

Speaker 3 (01:58):
Thanks a ton for having me. Always fun, second time
I've had the luxury of being here.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
Yeah, when you're multiple visit guy, that's a whole different
area going well. Well, yeah, when you're yeah, I mean
you're a multiple visit guy. Now it's kind of like, uh,
you know, organized crime you're a made man, like once
you come back more than once you're in the well.

Speaker 3 (02:20):
In all seriousness, I appreciate you guys before we dive
into this, just keeping up throughout the season, getting text
messages from you, Tony and Brad and keeping up with
the team and knowing what's going on.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
It's cool.

Speaker 3 (02:31):
You start feeling like there's a community of people around
you that care and they're kind of sweating out these
games and they're following your players, and it makes you
feel like you belong to something.

Speaker 1 (02:39):
So I appreciate that. Yeah, your sport in particular, I
don't know what it is, but from a fans perspective,
following and watching, they are gut grinders. Like you're always like, oh,
like like that's it doesn't know, you agree, it grinds you.

(03:00):
I know, you take it from a different perspective because
it's just.

Speaker 3 (03:02):
Like you no what grinds And I hear it from
I hear it from my wife all the time. It's
just like you start getting invested, and once you're invested,
oh yeah, it's gut punches after gut punches, and usually
at the end it's just kind of.

Speaker 1 (03:15):
A breath of a relaxation.

Speaker 3 (03:18):
If you get the win, it's like, I think it
feels good that we won, but it's over and we're
singing country roads, so it's all good.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
Yeah, what a year, dude, forty four sixteen, I mean,
where you guys went to? That was? That was you
can't you could not have scripted that first if this
was your tenth year as the head coach. That's a
storybook season.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
Recount it not just forty four Big twelve championships, super regional.

Speaker 1 (03:45):
Exactly like what you did in your first year. That's
that's like storybook stuff. Yeah, it's been incredible.

Speaker 3 (03:53):
When I talk about it, you always talk about this story,
this longer, bigger story. So I think some people were
excited about the individual season snapshot. But we've been working
a lot of people been working for a really long
time for a decade since I've been here, and coach
Maysie was here before that. But yeah, there was there
was a point when you made the first regional and
guys didn't know you really had a baseball team here

(04:14):
in twenty seventeen, and then you had your first first rounder,
and then you host a regional and now we've gone
to back to back to back regionals for the first
time in sixty one years, and back to back supers
for the first time in program history. You sprinkle in
a couple of big twelve titles over the last three years,
and it feels like you've been able to continue momentum on.
So I don't usually differentiate between I was an assistant

(04:38):
or I was a volunteer, or I was the head coach,
because it really has been this focus of moving a
program forward and doing something special here for a long time,
and so obviously, as a leader of the program and
head coach, you want to have success. But it definitely
didn't change from when I first got here in twenty sixteen.
I wanted it just as bad, and I was sweating
out everything that we were doing, and you're trying to

(04:59):
find players. So there's zero difference to me on who's
who's sitting in that chair, and just people have different
roles inside that team. So that's something that we push.
But I think in order to have success, you have
to actually believe it. You have to actually know that
you got a whole bunch of people involved in this thing.
It was ninety six people players, staff and coaches, and

(05:20):
so those ninety six people, and then you sprinkle in
donors and supporters and you guys covering it and people
gaining traction, and it's it's a state, right, it's a university.
Like no, bullshit, I don't know, sorry, I don't probably
can't say that's much fine, fine, good, Yeah, it's podcast podcast. Yeah,
it takes that, right. You start to realize the longer

(05:42):
you're here. I've been here ten years now, you just
start to realize. Oh, like they call it a program
for a reason. It takes a whole bunch of effort
from a bunch of people that are doing and doing
hard work if you want to compete. When you know,
we finished thirteenth in the nation, we've been top sixteen
for the last two years in a row. Well, there's
other good programs, and there's other states that have more

(06:02):
baseball players playing in them, and there's other schools that
got some pretty solid donors. So you have to differentiate
yourself in the care level at West Virginia and inside
of our program is taken off exponentially, and so because
of that, you start being able to stack some of
these things and start being able to do some cool stuff.

Speaker 1 (06:20):
Yeah, two sides to that. Firstly, I'll use an agricultural
analogy here, So you guys planted seeds back to the
days of Hawley Field and getting into the Big twelve,
and you just patiently, patiently, just kept watering and watering,
and then so all of a sudden, now and now

(06:40):
it's grown right, and you've got that, so you've got
great harvest. The second part of it is from a
fans perspective, the same analogy holds true, like if there
was ever a better example of the old field of
dreams saying if you build it, they will come, it's this.
So not only do you have this beautiful stadium, you

(07:01):
you put that together with a high rate of success
that had never been seen before in program history, and
like flowers blooming, like fans went like, whoa, I'm in
on this, and you know, this had the baseball feel,

(07:21):
and the popularity of baseball has just mushroom clouded. And
it's great to see because now you're like football's football
and basketball's basketball, right, and now baseball is like, we go,
all right, we're going to be there, and West Virginia
fans like, so to me, it's just like this, it's
as storybook. It isn't.

Speaker 3 (07:45):
It's been incredible, and we've had to learn like how
to adjust even from like an expectation standpoint with the
players and from the staff, and this year was incredible.
Like you take over a program, and there's usually about
three options when you take over a programs either really
stinky and you could do anything and have a pulse
and you're gonna look like you're smart, and you can

(08:06):
take over something that's just absolutely historic, and somebody moved
on because they did such a good job and took
another job and that's obviously hard to follow. And then
in our situation, coach Mazie had done an incredible job
and built something and passed it on to an assistance.
It's kind of like three basically opportunities there. And so
there was there was ups and downs, i think perception

(08:28):
wise and what was going on with the program and
in general quality. But we laughed as a staff because
we heard more positive and more negative than we had
ever heard in history in my ten years being there,
and I basically accounted for like there's a bunch of
people that care. Like before there wasn't enough people in
the room to hear any noise, good, bad, or indifferent, right,

(08:51):
And so that part, like you said, like when it
mushroom clouded and it was just it was we had
to start teaching players like, hey, this is what big
time sports is like in this community. Like you're gonna
hear when we suck, and you're gonna hear when the
head coach sucks or right decisions not right. So really
this year and last year we started getting into that
ballpark where there are so many people that cared. You

(09:13):
start hear in some of those outside voices a little bit.

Speaker 2 (09:16):
Yeah, as this brand has grown, you're obviously stacking really
good recruiting class on top of recruiting class. Right, you
don't get where you are without some great players, and
certainly that's been the case over the last how many years.
Where have you seen the biggest difference when you're out
on the road, you're recruiting, you're talking to guys that
you're trying to get here to West Virginia. Where has
all this winning the last couple of years shown itself

(09:38):
to be the biggest difference in your program When you're
out there with.

Speaker 3 (09:42):
The transfer portal kids, it's been the winning immediately. So
before you used to have these recruiting classes. You would
recruit two or three years before kids would get to campus.
And so if you won or went to a super
or had the best year in program history like we
just had, you couldn't see immediate results. It was like
the those kids were committed and signed grant and aids
years ago. So now you're starting to get the immediacy

(10:05):
of the success translating to the portal commitments. And so
guys like, yeah, I'd love to play on a top
fifteen team in the nation, right, and so you're winning
on some of those players. And the high school ranks regionally,
were the best baseball program in this region and it's
not close. And so from a high school ranks, if
somebody doesn't want to play here, it's because they don't

(10:26):
want to be the best, they don't want to have
the best resources, they want to go far away from home,
those kind of things. And so we've definitely submitted ourselves
on the high school side of things where if you're
a player in this region, this is where you want
to go to school. From a developmental standpoint, we do
still have work on the talent spectrum, Like we're still

(10:49):
competing to be the best as far as bringing the
best talent in the country, we don't usually miss on
hard work, grit, people that want to be here. Those
are the most important things. But it gives you a
little bit of a clue insight into this draft. We
had one player taken within the top two hundred picks
of the draft. Arizona State had nine, right, and so

(11:11):
not that not that that matters or you compare or
but there is some sort of like you're always fighting
to be the most talented team, but the most talented
team doesn't necessarily win the most games, right, And that's
not always correlated. But if you can have the right
kid with the right grid, in the right makeup and
you're super talented, you got a chance of continuing to
do things that had never been done in program history.

(11:32):
And so we're going to keep pushing out that. But
we do have more room for growth when it comes
to recruiting the best talent in the nation.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
Using the old school grading method of ABCD, grade yourself
in decision making in that game in season one, I'll.

Speaker 3 (11:52):
Go, I'll go with a B. You don't know what
you don't know? And I'd never been in that seat before,
and so obviously felt really good about the preparation the
decisions going into game, and then once you're in game,
until you start making those decisions, you've got nothing to

(12:13):
base it off of. So you start seeing the successes
the failures. By the end of the year, it starts
to filter, it starts to filter itself out, and so
you start to understand who can do what in what areas.
But going into a fall, now, as you prepare, you
start looking for those things and you start correlating what

(12:34):
happened in the spring to what you need to see
in the fall for somebody.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
To be successful.

Speaker 3 (12:38):
So probably a little bit less trial and error next year.
Probably the most important thing is just it's very easy
when you make the decisions in the game to be conservative,
but conservative normally gets your ass kicked, Like you have
to be fearless and aggressive when you make decisions, and
you have to only play to win. Sometimes if you're

(12:59):
the most talent on the team, or if you've consistently
won like we did all year, it can be like, well,
we're probably going to win, so let's play the conservative route,
and it's just not it's just not going to pay off.
And so if anything truly I missed on the aggressive side.
I didn't miss on the conservative side this year, that's
for sure.

Speaker 1 (13:19):
And I felt like.

Speaker 3 (13:21):
I felt like we didn't have a lot to lose.
We just had our best season in program history of
the year before. We lost seventy five percent of our innings.
We had one player draft from the top two hundred picks.
You had a new head coach that had a five
year deal, So let's go right, like, go make decisions aggressively,
and I wanted my players to play fearless and aggressive,

(13:41):
and you'll run into You'll run into teams that are
just the coaching decisions are timid. The coach's decisions are
to not screw up, and when you do that, you're
not going to win a national championship. You might survive
another year, but the goals to be the best and
if if you do that, you got to put players
in positions to win games. Put the best guy in there.
Sometimes it's a voll tile player or someone that's not

(14:04):
as consistent as you would like, but it comes down
to trust and playing aggressively.

Speaker 2 (14:09):
I was just gonna say, where does that Where did
those decisions show up to you where it was like, Okay,
I've not been in this seat before.

Speaker 1 (14:15):
Is it?

Speaker 2 (14:15):
Is it pitching changes? Is it lineup changes? I mean
the running the basest thing you've done. You've been there,
you've done that. Where did it show itself?

Speaker 3 (14:21):
Literally all those things Mays. Mays was extremely active on
field coach, so the days where like he was probably
the only coach left in the country that called pitches,
made pitching changes, and ran the offense. He was literally
the last man standing of that era. So nobody in
the game does that. And so I make pitching changes

(14:45):
with a lot of opinions from our staff, and I
run the offense. But coach one calls the pitches. So
you can imagine if you call every pitch fastball away,
fastball up, slider, I want you to bounce the change up, down, up,
and in right. So you're literally playing a video game
every pitch right. But then as this guy's wearing down,

(15:06):
who's called to the bullpen to get the next guy hot,
who's looking at the lineup that's coming up behind this
hitter to make sure that the right matchup is on deck.
And then the inning's over and you have to think
about if this guy gets on, we need to steal
and take advantage of this picture that's slow to the plate.
We need to have a bunch situation set up. I
need to have a pitch hitter ready because we're down.

(15:26):
There's so many things going on, so it's almost unrealistic
to do it at a very high level. So probably
the biggest things that I noticed. I was a hitter
by trade, and so my patients probably for pictures getting
out of trouble was probably low, meaning if someone wasn't

(15:49):
throwing strikes or not having success early, it was next
man up. And so I probably needed to learn to
be a little bit more patient with our pitching staff
occasionally because and I'm not somebody that rips the ball
out or gets emotional about it. I just I'm fairly
aggressive because they all work hard, they all train, and
if someone's not getting the job done, I want the

(16:11):
next man up kind of scenario. Running the offense very comfortable.
I've done that basically against Mazie, So in the Falls
scrimmages for ten years. He would call pitches and try
to get hitters out, and I would try to score runs.
And I always beat May's obviously in that scenario, and
that's why we got good at running the offense.

Speaker 1 (16:33):
Is there a decision that you made that has had
you now a couple of months after the season has
been over that at any various time it pops into
your head and you curse under your breath that you
made that decision.

Speaker 3 (16:46):
No, I'm I don't hold on to things really, Like
in general, I don't hold on to player mistakes. I
don't hold on to issues. I honestly couldn't give you
one of those things that haunts me at night. I'm

(17:09):
a lunatic when it comes to the preparation side. So
I sleep well knowing like I did everything in my
power with the accurate information to make the decision in
that moment, and so I really don't have any of that.
It probably helps when you have the best season in
program history and go to a super and win a
Big twelve title, So like that's probably helps that that fact.

Speaker 1 (17:32):
Gives you a little amnesia. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (17:35):
And if there's one pitch at the end of the
game and you got a chance to move on and
you make a decision, it goes the wrong way. But
I tell I preach our prep players like hell, like
you got to go next pitch, Like if you're really
in this foxhole. When all of us are together doing this,
then I'm not worried about the last play, like make
a better decision, move forward, And so I don't know

(17:55):
if that's a good thing or a bad thing as
a coach, but I move forward pretty quickly.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
Go back to recruitment and development, because you're alls identification
and development of guys has been unbelievable to stay with
the D two guys for a secondkle West on the
hitting side. But we can go back to pitching with
Derek Clark and then Griffin Kern following, and then here
comes another the D two pitcher of the year coming
in and the in corn what's led to that? How
walk us through that process? Because I think with baseball

(18:21):
it's a really fascinating angle and that you've been around
this game a long time. I played the game. If
you can play the game, you can play the game.
If you throw eighty nine miles an hour ninety three
miles and are you throw ninety three miles an hour,
It doesn't matter what school you're doing it at. It
feels to me as if the coming up a level
is more transferable in baseball maybe than some other sports.
You guys have clearly identified that and had some great,

(18:43):
great hits with that. Walk us through the process.

Speaker 3 (18:46):
Well, you talk about fearless and aggressive. I think in general,
human nature is to be validated. I recruited this guy
who's ranked this I recruited this guy, and he's from
this program, And so coaches are human.

Speaker 1 (18:59):
They want to be.

Speaker 3 (19:00):
Validated by their decisions. But we just have come to
the conclusion that if we're going to fight to be
the best here, then we can't do what everyone else does.
And there's certain limitations at West Virginia, just like there's
certain limitations at every other institution. But we found something
in this philosophy where we really talk about not caring

(19:21):
what a recruiting publication says, or what the fans say
about the recruiting class, or what we hear, because when
the dust settles, it's about winning ball games and creating
great players and player development. And so I think it
really it takes a little takes some balls, it takes
a little bit of courage, and I challenge our staff
and our recruiters are on the road, don't compare where

(19:44):
this guy's got an offer to because it's not football
and basketball the guy that can jump the highest and
run the fastest and hit the hardest, and that guy
can probably play football at this level. So maybe there's
some point that he's got an offer to Penn State,
Kentucky Virgins, any in Texas in football.

Speaker 1 (20:01):
But for us, it's just the opposite.

Speaker 3 (20:03):
It's just like, I actually want my guys to have
blinders on and just go after the guys that we
think will help us. And so, like, you can get
really confused in baseball because it's such a skill oriented sport.
It's not the best athlete isn't the best player in
our game, And when you're talking about recruiting services and
you're talking about all these other things, it's just easy
to go after the best athlete, the guy who looks

(20:24):
great in the uniform, but it's not always the best player.
So I think more than anything, it's that mentality of
find the best player. And some of these kids develop
when they're twenty one, twenty two. Some of them developed
when they're seventeen. Some of them are really good when
they're fifteen, and they suck when they're twenty one, And
so it's about trying to figure out, well, why did
the guy end up at D two. Well, he weighed
one hundred and twelve pounds and he grew up in

(20:46):
the same town as when he went to school, and
he never played in the select ball tournament and wasn't
part of the showcase circuits circuit. So you start saying, well,
that makes sense. That's maybe why that guy has developed
and that's why he's ready to go, and so uh,
it's it's about learning these individual stories of each recruit
and figuring out if.

Speaker 1 (21:05):
It would be a good fit. Here, you were really hungry,
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Speaker 2 (21:10):
Once?

Speaker 1 (21:11):
Two?

Speaker 3 (21:13):
I could probably put down three. You think you could
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Speaker 1 (21:15):
Yeah? Three?

Speaker 3 (21:17):
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Speaker 1 (21:25):
Yeah, what do we want to do? They're very they're
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we need to get them going. So how do you
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Speaker 2 (21:33):
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Speaker 1 (21:40):
You think you could do three? I think so?

Speaker 3 (21:43):
I think the Tutors should probably sponsored the heaviest guy
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of the Year and really represent Tutors. Yeah, we could
do a biscuit eating contest with the team.

Speaker 1 (21:57):
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(22:39):
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Speaker 3 (22:50):
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Speaker 1 (22:52):
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Speaker 3 (23:05):
All three of those studs are gone. So we have
Kyle Kyle West and Skyler King and Jace Reinhart. They
played the majority of the time out there. So we'll
have a new look Mountaineers coming in the outfield.

Speaker 1 (23:16):
How much new biscuit, new biscuits and the basket opportunities ballers.
Last year you lost seventy five percent of your innings. Yes,
what's the percentage this year?

Speaker 3 (23:24):
Fifty five percent of the innings on the mound, seventy
five percent of the at bats. So that's the big
change is that the offense is going to be new.
We like what we brought in. Uh, I'm proud of
what we did in recruiting. We signed thirteen transfer portal
players fourteen. We lost one to the draft, but we
were hustling. Over six weeks we signed those fourteen players,

(23:44):
so about two and a half players per week.

Speaker 1 (23:46):
Walk us into that. How much quote unquote pre work
can you do about the portal before the portal actually
opens as much as you want? What do you guys do,
Like how how many of these guys had been id'd
before the seat, you know, before they put their name

(24:07):
into the portal. Not that you're tampering, because that's not
you're I mean, you're straight up guy, not that you're tampering,
but like you guys acted quickly, like it was like
boom boom, West Virginia got this, West Virginia got this.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
Was like it was you want like advanced scouting type.

Speaker 1 (24:20):
St Yeah, you have to.

Speaker 3 (24:21):
You have to be aware of what's going on around
the country with the talent. You have to be prepared.
So it's just like anything. You don't know what these
players are going to do individually. You don't know if
someone's going to enter the transfer.

Speaker 1 (24:34):
Portal or not.

Speaker 3 (24:36):
But when they do, the team that's contacts the first,
the team that sets up visits the first, the team
that puts an offer out on the table first, they
have some sort of advantage. It's incredible. You talk to
a lot of these a lot of these players. They
get contacted by hundreds of schools, but there's always these
initial conversations. There's always excitement of Hey, I'm with school

(24:58):
X and just wanted to see your intro level. Why'd
you enter the portal? What are you thinking? How are
things going awesome? We'll be in touch with you. The
only problem is we'll be in touch with you. It
starts to lose a little bit of that power over
the course of ten days when fifteen twenty other schools call,
and so we try to do a good job of
identifying knowing who's out there when they go into the portal.

(25:21):
Sometimes we'll have an initial call, but it's basically followed
up by me or I'm calling originally quickly with an offer.
So I think that's the biggest difference. That takes a
lot of work. It might not be sustainable for the
next thirty years of this system stays that way, but
essentially on the phone with the head coach with an
offer in hand. So there's no like I think they
like me. I don't know if.

Speaker 1 (25:42):
They like me.

Speaker 3 (25:43):
It's like SABS called me, offered me, is pushing me
to get on a plane tomorrow, right, And so it's
just we're trying to move quickly. By the time some
other schools made an offer, oftentimes they've already had a
stake on my deck, and so there's just some sort
of relationship that had been created.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
Mm hmm. You're cooking them on the back. What the
girl situation turned out to be?

Speaker 3 (26:04):
Yeah, solid lot of olive Areos catering going on. That's
free plub I'm not yet, yeah, from all of Areos.

Speaker 1 (26:11):
It's not your flagship. What about Rep cav you've been
doing You did a big thing with Rep cat.

Speaker 3 (26:15):
Yes, yeah, Red Cab Barbecue was incredible. He provided a
full dinner for all of the incoming freshmen, so them
and their parents got to eat some delicious barbecue at
the house.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
That would get deals done, right, I mean, like that
gets deals done. He brings that brisket out there and
they go like, speaking of biscuits, brisket, Well, he does
that brisket. All our brisk at our food court. He
that's what he does. Yes, he does. He does briskets
on the biscuit.

Speaker 2 (26:41):
Three guys, food court coming soon.

Speaker 1 (26:42):
Yeah, we start. Have you ever been over yet? You're
around in the fall you stop.

Speaker 3 (26:47):
By, Oh I've been over over Yeah yeah, yeah, cool,
I went and picked up some catering.

Speaker 1 (26:51):
Oh that's right. I was an early adopter. I'm in.

Speaker 3 (26:55):
Yeah, I'm always in.

Speaker 1 (26:58):
So I'm really intrigued. So you just call a kid
that has a name in the portal, you guys id'ed
him and go like saves, call them, offer them now
sight unseen. We're in. Yeah, you got to be in.

Speaker 3 (27:11):
And that's you're trying to find some sort of edge,
and there's there's red flags and there's green flags, and
you're talking, there's agents involved, and there's coaches and you're
getting character check and you're trying to figure it out.
And it's not done until it's done. So you want
to spend time with the kid. And so he may
not think that's an interview on the visit, but that's
an interview on the visit. So he thinks he's evaluating

(27:32):
our program and we're evaluating his program, and nothing's done
until it's done. But yes, acting fast. There is no
tomorrow the land of Manyana. We try to get that
out out of all of our staff and myself's head.
There's just there's no time for tomorrow because by the
time you wait the day that kid's committed to the
competition and so you just don't have time. We're probably

(27:55):
overly aggressive, so we end up recruiting kids that are
less in to the recruiting crank then the others. So
I think that's a good thing. So most of these
kids are like I went to this place. It has
a thirty five million dollars stadium, a new biomechanics and
performance center. All the people appear to be able to
communicate accurately. I like the strength coach. It's a good town. Hey,

(28:19):
I'm good. I'm gonna play Big twelve baseball, right, So
they like want to shut it down. They're like, I
don't want to go on three more visits and like
talk to strangers on the phone and deal about money,
Like I just want to play baseball, and like this
guy keeps hounding me Like that's fine, SABS, like I'll
I'll succumb, I'll do it. Yeah it's kidnapping, Yeah, yeah,
whereas some of these guys, if you wait later and
you have the conversations, I'll follow up, you end up

(28:41):
recruiting kids that are like on their tenth visit and
it's just exhausting and you're going like you're having you know,
brisket on a biscuit on the deck, and you're like,
I don't think this kid's into this, and you just
you're just like a miserable experience. I just got to
have somebody that I think I got a chance of
wining and selling. And if that's the case, I'm all good.
The reality is that we probably we brought it. I

(29:04):
don't know how many we brought in, but I would
say eighty five percent of the kids that we brought
to Morgantown committed. So it was like a ridiculous percentage.

Speaker 1 (29:12):
Almost.

Speaker 3 (29:13):
Yeah, you win when you get them here. It's difficult
to get them here. It's hard to convince, well, why
West Virginia. I got offers to all the top twenty
five programs.

Speaker 1 (29:21):
But easier when you say Big twelve champion and multiple
super regionals.

Speaker 3 (29:25):
Ellie, and when you see it way easier if you
get them here, you can win on it. It's just
it's yeah, I'm from Mississippi, I'm from Florida, I'm from Tennessee,
I'm from here. Why why West Virginia? And so you
explain and you gotta work. That's the work. Really, that
initial couple, initial couple days of recruiting and then getting
that plane ticket. If I can get you on a plane,

(29:46):
we got a shot.

Speaker 2 (29:47):
This wasn't portal, but basically what you're describing. Let's how
about Colton Simms for a second, top third basement, coming
out of Kansas, originally committed to Vanderbilt, one of the
best programs in the country, de commits there and then
you you swooped in quickly, fast, got that deal done.
We had him on sports line and he said all
of those things that you just said. He didn't want
to be through a big process. He loved you guys,

(30:08):
he loved the facility, he loved the performance center, and
he just said, I want to play ball. I'm good
and go. So it's almost like that's a that's the
poster child for what you just want.

Speaker 3 (30:16):
We want that guy. That's the same thing with our staff.
It's like you're not comparing everything. It's not dollars and
cents it's like, do you love being here? Do you
love the people? Do you like representing the state? Are
you into West Virginia Athletics? Do you think we can win? Like,
there's what more?

Speaker 1 (30:34):
Do you want?

Speaker 3 (30:34):
The kid that's always wanting more you're comparing, It's like,
we want to provide a great deal, awesome experience. We
got a chance to go to Omaha. We're two games
away from it this year. So if you can't imagine
being great here and it's probably not the joint for you.

Speaker 2 (30:48):
And then that kid's from Big twelve territory, so he
gets to play for a Big twelve school. That was
a huge, awesome, great deal sold yeap, that was.

Speaker 3 (30:55):
Huge, and so parents are wonderful. We really do separator
ourselves with player development, so we're into guys getting better.
We can show so many players that came here and
got better. So now we're winning, you're getting more talent.
Things are going in the right direction. But ten years ago,
all we had was people to sell. It was just
about the coaches in the development. And so you don't

(31:16):
go from you know, not making a regional in twenty
one years to winning Big twelve titles and going to
supers without being able to turn a certain kind of
player into a better player. And so now that the
talent threshold has increased, we still have that mindset. We
think we can continue to create big leaders, which is
twelve big leaders in the last ten years, and so
we just we keep hammering that. But yeah, I'm not

(31:38):
very good. I'm not great with the recruiting show. Pony,
Like we put on a great show. They meet everybody,
and we take them to dinner, and you know, they're like,
we have an incredible visit. But I don't have a
lot of tolerance for like I'll let you know in
a couple of weeks, right, I just yeah, if you
don't know within a couple hours of leaving here, like

(31:59):
the next is getting your offer, the next guy's getting
the money, Like we're gonna move on quickly.

Speaker 1 (32:03):
Just no one has time for that. If it's not
hell yeah, then it's no.

Speaker 3 (32:06):
If it's not hell yeah, it's no period. It's true, truly,
how I feel.

Speaker 1 (32:11):
That's all it should be. You ever go to make
a pitching change and the picture said no, huh that
ever happened? I get a lot of headshakes, but they've
never said no. Jan Dill's attorneys at law. They won't
take no for an answer. Same thing, right, like.

Speaker 2 (32:27):
Save they already know Savings, won't take no for an answer.

Speaker 1 (32:29):
Jen Dill's attorneys at law, they specialize in Social Security
disability benefits and then military disability benefits, which is a
huge thing to go through, a process to go through,
you got to have people that know right, you gotta
have you have the right people. And that's what Jan
Dill's attorneys a law. They started here in West Virginia,
still here in West Virginia. Parker's were forty eight different states,
including cleaning the state of Texas, clean state of Oklahoma.

(32:52):
So like, they don't take no for an answer either.
Like if Jan Dill's walk to the picture's mount right
and she said like, hey, we're gonna hey, good job,
We're gonna make a little switch year like and he
said no, she goes, no, we don't take no for
an answer. He'd be out. Same thing with Jen Dill's attorneys.
So long.

Speaker 3 (33:05):
I was listening to your last podcast and I was
laughing more at that part when you said they literally
won't take no for an answer, And I was like,
what does that even mean?

Speaker 1 (33:14):
They don't want they don't.

Speaker 2 (33:16):
It's like you might need to get jan a seat
in the dug out there for pitch.

Speaker 1 (33:21):
Yeah, she was probably pretty good athlete, probably pretty good athletes,
I think, Yeah, she's probably pretty good athlete.

Speaker 2 (33:26):
But they competitive, you know that.

Speaker 1 (33:28):
Yeah, what's the same thing with you? You're not like
you're going to make a god change, Like you're never
going to have anyone to go like, no, I'm good, man,
just kind of go back, I'm good. You're making a change.
And they won't take no for an answer. Who on
this season's team? Gone by way? What are you laughing about?
What's fun is literally won't take no.

Speaker 4 (33:50):
That's you know what you should do first meeting first
at a certain point, first meeting with your team this year,
like when you're putting like all the roads, like we
will do this, we will do this, we will do that.

Speaker 1 (34:01):
And I useduld close it with like and I won't
take no for an answer, And I can eat three tutors. Now,
what player exceeded even your expectations? One that comes to mind.

Speaker 3 (34:17):
I got multiple, but Skyler King made a gigantic leap
from where he was sophomore year to being a draft
pick and headed out with the Boston Red Sox, but
he started off the season so hot. He really set
the tone for the season. Going into the spring, there
was a chance that he was not our everyday centerfielder,
that was not a cemented position, and within two weeks

(34:39):
of the season, it was like, well, I guess he'll
be out there for the rest of the year. And
so that's the funnest part as a coach. You start
seeing you start seeing these kids make jump and take
ownership of their game, and oftentimes players think that the
coach wants somebody to earn a job or a position,

(35:00):
and we try to make it very clear that just
every position is earned. You can win, you can lose,
you can start somewhere, you could finish somewhere else. This
thing is not finite. It's about winning today's game, that
is it. There's been plenty of examples throughout last season
that you know, show that right, but for him, he

(35:20):
just earned that. It was just he came in and
so it makes you so proud. And usually those kids
that you end up, you know, holding down a position
for an entire season and basically saying I'm the best
guy on this team in this position. For an entire season.
You grow a very tight bond with them because they
know I have to do what's best for the team.
They know that they're only going to be there if

(35:41):
they're providing value to the team. So it's kind of
like a collective win. The coach and the player. There's
a relationship and like something that's really built there. It's like, congratulations,
you did you did it right.

Speaker 1 (35:52):
Yeah, that's like Rich Rodriguez always used to say and
probably still does say it. The biggest accomplishment for a
football player is to asked his entire stretch of eligibility,
like if you're here for four or if you're here
for five, Like that's the hardest thing, like being here
day one and going all the way to the end. Right.
So that's that's the true badge of honor because.

Speaker 3 (36:12):
That's just hard, just hard, that's just And Skyler King
was a he was a spot start guy, and then
he was a start guy, and then it was our
team got better and better, and as our team got better,
he had to get better. And then he cemented he
was here the entire time. He was recruited as a
left handed pitcher. So it was just a fun.

Speaker 1 (36:31):
Story because to your point on a bigger scope philosophically,
your your point is if so you're saying, hey, you've
got to be you've got to win your job every day. Player,
You've got to win your job. I, as a manager coach,
have to win my job every day. What happens in
organizations that goes away and people aren't challenged, like there

(36:53):
is no Bunsen burner on their butt and they've got
no reason to keep on. So what happens to the
organization neutralizes, goes flat, goes down. That's the greatness. That's
the great thing about sport. If you have a coach
that will live through it. And when a guy isn't
as good anymore, you just you're done, You're replaced.

Speaker 3 (37:14):
You have to and it's easy from a coach's perspective
to get comfortable. These guys have played there. I don't
think there'll be a lot of friction if I make
these decisions because everyone's comfortable in those decisions. Even the
players that aren't playing get comfortable not playing often times.
But the comfort is what ends up making you average,

(37:35):
and so there just has to be that. That's why
in non sport fields, if we meet you guys, or
you meet people in academia, or you meet people in
other areas that don't necessarily have that fire to their ass,
but they are extremely motivated and they're waking up every
day to win something. You notice it like immediately you're like,
that guy's on fire, that guy's cooking.

Speaker 2 (37:56):
Yeah, one of those guys. Let's talk about that for
a second, because you don't have a c like you
had without multiple people making big time contributions. Armani Guzman
season was wild, right showed flashes early. You talk about
those outfield great catches. He had one of the best
of the year on the right field catch where he
goes up brothers and doubles up the guy on first,
but then ends up playing third for you in high

(38:18):
leverage situations in that regional. Being the MVP of the regional.
Was an absolute stud at the plate. So there's guys
like that right that have to step up. He in particular,
it was a fantastic story how he stayed with you
even when he wasn't playing every day and came back
in big moments and helped you incredible.

Speaker 3 (38:34):
It's like a proud dad moment. Got to recruit that
kid when he was young. He was in New York City.
He ended up getting a scholarship offer to go to
a high school in Georgia, but he grew up going
on subways and buses outside of New York City to
play on his own. That's a self made guy, and
he has trusted me from this second he stepped foot

(38:56):
on campus. He wants to play. He wants to be
a big leaguer. He has as loud of tools is
anybody on the team. And there are certain times when
he was ready and certain times when he was not ready,
and it is an incredible story. We went into the
Big Twelfth Tournament and going into the tournament, we had
lost five of our last six games. We had won

(39:16):
one game against Kansas State, and we got swept by
Kansas at home. So we were in a tail spin
essentially at the end of the year. And so it
just felt like, wow, great year, you guys did it.
You won a Big Twelfth title, and season's over, like
you just went one out of the last six. And

(39:37):
so we go into the Big Twelfth Tournament and we
ended up winning one game. So it was like a
little bit of icing on the cake. I guess we
had been swept in the Big Twelfth Tournament for three
consecutive years before that, so like we broke through. We
won a game at Globe Life in the Big twelve Tournament.
So I think there was just a lot of people
that you could have been content with that. It was like,

(40:00):
you set the all time wins record with forty one
at the Big twelve Tournament, you won a Big twelve title,
you made a regional right, like nice job. But Guzman
was playing in the second game, we pinch hit him
because the lineup just was stale, Our team was stale,
and Guzman goes backside single. He hit about one hundred

(40:21):
and fifteen miles an hour. And then his next at
bat he comes up and he does the same thing again.
So I was giving him a courtesy at bat, like
could this guy get going at some point, for God's sakes,
like get going. And so he blasts these two balls
and he's he's ends up getting on third base, and
I'm in the third base box. I was like, dude,
I want to I'd love to play at third. Can

(40:43):
you play third? Like Guzman, could you play third? And
He's like, I can play third, man, I can play third.
I was like all right, we'll see. We'll see. Because
he hadn't been that great in practice at third, he
had scuffled a little bit. I thought the attention to
detail for him training at third was a little lackluster,
Like he wanted to play the infield, but it wasn't

(41:04):
quite what I wanted on that, you know, quite up
to my expectations there. But I love the kid. I
love his work ethic. He's got energy and care level
that's unmatched. Whenever he's in the game, he's robbing a homer,
he's turning a double play, he makes stuff happen. So
he was just so clear to eyed. He looked me
in the eye, He's like, I can play third base, coach.

Speaker 1 (41:24):
And I was like, all right.

Speaker 3 (41:25):
So we started him in the regional and obviously he
just goes Banana. He's the tournament MVP. He hadn't played
in six weeks, and then he's the best player out
of Clemson, Kentucky, West Virginia, and an upstate.

Speaker 1 (41:38):
So it's just a ridiculous story.

Speaker 3 (41:39):
It's one of those stories where it's like you're gonna
get to tell that to your team for years to come.
It's just like, you have two options if you're not playing.
You can either become a sour puss and like cash
this thing in and transfer, or you can just like
keep working. Our staff will know who's working and who's prepared,
and you'll be rewarded. If it's not now, it'll be
next year at your other school if you want to transfer.

(42:01):
If it's not now, it'll be next season in West Virginia.
But your choices are very simple. You either work or
you can cash this thing in. So the guy chose
to work and was rewarded for it, and sometimes you
work and you're not rewarded for it. So it's just yeah,
for me, that's like an emotional story, Like what a win, right,
because our even our season and our program was like

(42:22):
we weren't in a great spot going into the regional
like you could have said, so we lost, Yeah, what
what was it? We lost six of the last eight
and it was just a little stale. So yeah, big win.
Guzman's gonna be a star. I think everyone that's Mountain
your fans can can relate to Goozy and and root
for that guy.

Speaker 1 (42:41):
That's a Disney that's a Disney movie. What he did
that's like a Disney movie. You're like, yeah, coach, I
can do it, like you could see that. Can you
play third?

Speaker 2 (42:49):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (42:49):
I can play Can you play third? Yeah, okay, go
play third. It really was.

Speaker 3 (42:54):
And then he just couldn't get out in the regional.

Speaker 2 (42:56):
Right, that's it because just playing If he would have
just gone in and played third not made the airs,
it's a great story. The fact he goes out and
does what he does in the regional at the plate
was ridiculous.

Speaker 3 (43:05):
He gets the he hits the winning run into clinch
the regional to send us to the second ever Super
in program history and the most wins in program history.
It's like storybook stuff. He couldn't get out, he's stealing bases,
he's making plays at third, and he literally drives in
the winning run for the Mountaineers to advance. So like

(43:25):
everything lined up, it's Disney.

Speaker 1 (43:28):
They call him squat wrack, got some big legs, that's
what I've heard to call him. Squat rack, massive legs,
massive jet propulsion system. Yes, it looks like an NFL
running back. Yeah, that is a wonderful story.

Speaker 2 (43:39):
So where's he play? Moving forward? Well, start third? Hees
go back to the outfield.

Speaker 3 (43:44):
He tells me he tells me he's a short stop.
I always challenge him about that. He's playing shortstop, third
and centerfield this summer, and so center fields like the
no brainer just because of the skill set he can
do that at a high level. He trains at the
infield consistently. I think he's a true utility player that
we could plug in those spots based on what we have.

Speaker 1 (44:07):
That's a great story. You a fly fish at all?
I don't so. Over at Gomart they have these slim
gyms that are actually fly rods that, yeah, go ahead,
show that picture. So I went over to go Mart.
There that's just off the Whitehall exit. That's a slim jym.
I just cast it over to the other side of
the shelf. I mean, look at that thing with a

(44:28):
bend on that thing I caught there was something on
the line at that point. Had a nine foot slim
gym and that it's not it's a still photo obviously,
So I didn't bring it in at that point. But
Brad was there that day and that's a that's a
big slim gym. So they got all like stuff. They got.
They got twenty two pound Recis cups for the summer.
It's like a manhole cover. It's heavy. They got handles

(44:49):
on them. You got to bring it out to your truck,
put in the bed of your truck. Gotta go there.

Speaker 2 (44:52):
Those sleeves that have like thirty of them in there,
thirty of them.

Speaker 1 (44:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (44:55):
Can I say something real quick about Gomart. Yeah, it
was up and down seventy nine a bunch since Friday
doing these TBT games. I think I've been at the
Elkview Gomart more than my house. Four stops there since Friday.
Excellent customer service. It did a great job. Good people,
nice clean store. They do a great job. People speak
when you walk in, say hello, get my stuff, use

(45:16):
my app right there, because of course you get rewards
points there. Steve, you want the rewards points, pay in
and out gone, great job Elkview Gomart.

Speaker 1 (45:24):
If you don't have the Gomart app yet, please do
you immediately save on your food and your fuel? Boat? Guy? Well, guy,
you boat. I don't have a boat, but I would
like to go you like to go out on I'd
like we take Wendel. Thank you, thank you very much.

(45:45):
We're trying to figure we're trying to get a confirmed
I may have said it once or twice that all
James Bond movies, if you go back and take a
look at all of them, going all the way back
to like the old James Bonds, that whenever there's a
pond tune in a scene, they do get those from
Lou Wendell and all bits. A lot of people don't
know that. And here's a deal. Why not. It's not confirmed,
but we're looking into it. They're the premier pontoon boat

(46:07):
dealer in the state of West Virginia. Fortieth anniversary. You
know this saves when you're your fortieth year as manager here?
How old will that make you? When you're at fortieth year?
How hold you right now? I'll do the math. Thirty eight,
So seventy eight year old manager, Steve Sabans, that'll be
your forty three. That's how long Lou Wendell's been in business.
Premier pontoon boat dealer in the state of West Virginia.

(46:27):
Great supplies right now, pontoons, the G three john boats,
every kind of I mean boo I'm big into booies.
I have kind of dedicating the month of July to
booies and anchors. That's kind of like, that's that's kind
of where I'm at right now. So whatever you need,
got it. Lou Wendell Marine Sales. You think you'll be
doing this show, then well we're stopping before episode eight hundred.

(46:52):
We're not going to do an episode now. It's sixty
four six is.

Speaker 3 (46:54):
Today, So what's the stop eight hundred.

Speaker 1 (47:00):
I've just said. I've gone on record there will be
there will not be an episode eight hundred, so go
from there. That's why we needed to get you on twice.
Hopefully we'll get a third before right.

Speaker 2 (47:10):
Oh yeah, I think there'll be a third. If Civill
come back, there'll be I mean he'll he'll be extended
a third invitation.

Speaker 1 (47:15):
There's sure. Like I said, I mean like Nate Adrian
came on twice then he just kept coming back and
we couldn't get rid of him. He just kept showing up. Yeah.
He Speaking of Nate, we were with him this weekend.
And I know you guy in all seriousness, you guys
are into helping the community. So this shirt that I'm
wearing here is where's the logo your right shl sight

(47:36):
live Live like Brent. So we had a we were
at an event at Stonewall Resort this past Saturday for
the Cancer WU Cancer Institute. The second year we did
it and had a great time. We brought down Jasper
Floyd Mountaineer basketballer point guard and the numbers are in Hey,
if you would, Jake, go ahead throw. So we're getting

(47:57):
out of the truck getting out of the truck there
and there was a family there that was having Family
Olympics at Stonewall, and right when we got there, they
were shooting free throws and so we said, well, hell's bells,
Let's get Jasper. Let's get Jasper. And I was saying,
so Jasper stepped out, he said, okay, what team am
on here? He knocked down he just he didn't knock

(48:18):
down a couple. So so Floyd's first basket is the
Mountain here actually takes place in Roanoke, West Virginia over
there at Stonewall. Wow. Yeah. And then we went inside
and you can go ahead, Jacob. Let's see some of
these pictures here from the event. But we had Simon Auchten.
That's Anthony Forget. That's Michael Son over on the left hand.
He was representing Daniels. They were selling the elite level

(48:39):
gear kind of like the stuff you're wearing right there.
Silent Auction had some really good stuff. And see that
guitar right there, Charles Wesley Godwin autographed guitar. And then
we had some Polamalu stuff and then we had that
was the event. Fed them like kings, I mean, fed
them like absolute kings. It was a good deal. Then

(49:00):
we did a little Q and A and we had
Nate the skate. So here's Nate's deal. This was a
good day for him. He got to stand at the
tea box out in one of the par three holes
there and all he would do is just tee off
on the same hole when the groups came through, so
they were just like, go ahead, use my you know,
use my ball. That's a good day for Nate. Where's
he any other ends there? Jake hit me with.

Speaker 2 (49:20):
A couple more and Jasper pictures.

Speaker 1 (49:22):
There's Nate. That's Nate in the middle in case you
don't know, and he would be the tallest among those guys.
Just a lot of people over. So here's the deal.

Speaker 2 (49:29):
There's Jasper.

Speaker 1 (49:31):
We raised over seventy thousand dollars in our second year.
Next year we will do over one hundred thousand dollars.
Our increase this year is about forty percent more than
we did last year. So we're thrilled. Thanks everyone. I
told the people that were their Mountaineer was there, Caden
was there, and I told the folks there, bring someone

(49:52):
with you. Bring another foursome next year. By the way,
we're giving you an invite right now? Do you play?
I don't?

Speaker 3 (49:58):
Yeah, me neither. No, I do not too hard, So
you sit on the sidelines. Well, we get there when
they're done, when they're wrapping.

Speaker 1 (50:07):
We did.

Speaker 2 (50:08):
We did the after golf, Yeah, we did after after good.

Speaker 1 (50:10):
They be a part of the after party. Yeah, we'll
take you in.

Speaker 2 (50:14):
Yeah, and it sold.

Speaker 1 (50:15):
Yeah, that's an absolute done deal. So thanks, as.

Speaker 3 (50:17):
Long as I don't have to play golf.

Speaker 2 (50:19):
Yeah, okay, let's go down there and hang out.

Speaker 1 (50:21):
Yeah, let's talk about a couple of guys that are
JJ weatherhol Let's get a little JJ. I's killing it.
I know he's killing it, and I know you're not surprised.
So do you conversate with him at all? You just
share text at all? Like what's he saying? Like what's
that new world that he's living in? Yeah, we go
back and forth, not usually about baseball. I sent him

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a video of my kids learning how to cast with
their grandpa the other.

Speaker 3 (50:46):
Day because he likes to fish and he's like that.
That fires me up. And just what he's doing is
not surprising. He is different, he's special, he's consistent. The
fun part is that you never know how it will go.
Early on in the career, he's literally just breaking the
door down. He's kicking it down, saying, you have to
make me a big leaguer here shortly because I'm the

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best in the country. And so it's a it's not
a doing well. It's like, no, he's doing great everywhere
he goes, I know. So that part's so fun. He's
just he's different, right, Like he gave back. He came
and spoke at our baseball banquet after a year after
being drafted. He gave fifty thousand dollars in donations back
to us immediately after. He hasn't been to the big leagues.

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He just he's all in. He's one of those guys
that will be around here and support West Virginia and
this community and this university forever. He's he's different.

Speaker 2 (51:38):
He's a great development guy though too, right. I mean,
that's one of the guys you're talking about, right, that
wasn't the top five guy coming out of high school certainly.

Speaker 1 (51:45):
Yeah, if that team read that was that the color?
I remember you spot him, Like, how'd you spot him? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (51:49):
He was on Beaver Valley Red fifteen.

Speaker 1 (51:52):
I remember that.

Speaker 3 (51:52):
He was a second baseman and uh, just a little
shrimp that could hit, had some bat skills about to
ball skill and played really hard. And yeah, we were
his only Division one offer out of high school. He
wasn't ranked in Perfect Game. He had no rankings, no nothing,
because he didn't do that thing. He didn't barnstorm right,
he didn't go and.

Speaker 1 (52:11):
Do the whole He didn't He did not have a brad.
I think they want to clarify this. He did not
have seven bats, four bags.

Speaker 2 (52:21):
Three sliding mits, and three three sliding games a weekend.

Speaker 1 (52:24):
Yeah, and have two pairs of sliding and have two
pairs of flip flops. He didn't have. Daddy didn't take
care of you.

Speaker 3 (52:29):
No, he had one team that he played on Beaver Valley,
and then occasionally there would be a national team call
him up and say like we'd love for you to
come down to Atlanta for a weekend and we'll pay
for everything, and he say, sure, if you want to
drive me down, I'll jump in a car with somebody
and sleep with somebody else's hotel room. And then he
played in a men's league with old, washed up dudes

(52:50):
that still like to play, just so he could be
at the yard, because being at the yards better than
not being at the yard. Yeah, so he just played baseball, man,
he just liked playing baseball.

Speaker 1 (52:58):
Yeah that's good. Yeah, that's good because baseball players play
a lot of baseball. That's it. And you'd be surprised.

Speaker 3 (53:05):
There's a lot of guys that think that they're baseball
players and they don't play a lot of baseball, and
they will want everything other than playing. Like you said,
seven bats and three sliding myths and some my back, go.

Speaker 2 (53:14):
Play, go play, get your reps in and go play.
And what do we say all the time? You're allowed
to get better. Yeah, you're not what you are at
a certain stage, you are allowed to improve and get better.
He's a wonderful example of that.

Speaker 1 (53:25):
Think about this saves Steve. When JJ gets called up,
you'll have Victor Scott and you'll have JJ right on
the big that's kind of neat, that's so cool.

Speaker 3 (53:35):
I don't know if you're ever going to have that
opportunity again two starting players for the Cardinals potentially, and
it is, uh, it goes quick, and it's got to
be earned every day, So you've got to perform at
a high level. Just with JJ, it's one of those
guys where it's hard to imagine him not having success
just because of who he is.

Speaker 1 (53:53):
With that being said, and the level of success that
you guys have had, So what's next? I mean, how
do you handle expectations now? Because you know, I always
used to tell Bill Stewart the worst thing that he
ever did was he inherited a football program that had
won eleven, eleven, and eleven, and then he won nine,

(54:15):
nine and nine, and that was like, what's this? But
if the previous guy had won six, six and six,
his nine nine and nine would have been like, this
is great, absolutely, which is exactly what happened to Don Neelan, Right.
Don won nine nine nine literally and it was like
the greatest thing in the world because they had losing seasons.
So what that being said, like, So what is realistic

(54:36):
as far as going forward? I know what your goal is,
but how do you do it?

Speaker 3 (54:40):
I don't think it's I don't think it's my job
to set realistic expectations or perceptions or what people want
to think about it. I think my job is literally
there's not enough time in the day to focus on
how to get better, how to be more competitive, how
to recruit the best players, how to develop, how to
build par partnerships inside the university, how to move the

(55:03):
program forward, and so there's too many variables to know
what translates exactly to that win in loss number every
every year. But I do think if you spend your
time in resources trying to get the program better, you
might look up and have a little bit of success.
But I think that's for fans to decide, right like,

(55:23):
what's being accomplished, if that's enough or not.

Speaker 1 (55:27):
You got ejected from a game this year, reminder, just
in case you'd forgotten about that. Thank you. Looking back
on that, what'd you learn? I think nothing.

Speaker 3 (55:42):
There's there's very few instances in that it's worth to
be ejected. I wouldn't have wanted that to happen, and
in that situation, in all transparency, I think that particular
is an egomaniac and probably shouldn't be umpiring at this level.

(56:06):
Probably easy to say if you're the guy that got ejected,
but like on a non bias standpoint, like probably unrealistic.
I was actually ejected while in my dugout, and so normally,
if you're in your dugout, umpires, probably shouldn't pursue a
coach and be that close to the situation because I

(56:28):
had essentially said I'm upset, I'm frustrated with what has happened,
but I'm back into my hole, into my safe space
over the thought, right, And so to be ejected while
you're inside the confines of the dugout seems a little
bit silly, like if if I was pursuing or in
somebody's face or refuse to leave the field of play right, right,

(56:48):
And so I don't think I don't think it was
a correct decision to eject me in that moment. But
it's just awful, like going to the locker room watching
our team play and watching having decisions is being made
that you think you could possibly influence the game, and
then Skyler King gets ejected the next game, the very

(57:08):
next game. And so we had one coach ejected this
year and one player. So it's not coincidence. That literally
the next game, a player gets the jamped, gets ejected,
and so like, it just poor leadership if you just
set an example. It literally got followed within one game,
so it wouldn't be as notice if it was a
week later. But it's like, oh, I'm pretty sure I

(57:30):
had something to do with that player being ejected because
the frustration brewed over and people thought we were getting
hosed and whatever. So bad example set by me. Something
I can't I can't let happen on a consistent basis.

Speaker 1 (57:41):
That stuff normally works out, like the circle of life
lion Kig. I mean, you got kids, right, they watch
Lion King, Right, there's this there's a cycle right that
things eat other things and the kind of goes through
the thing and the saint. You're wondering where I'm going here.
I'm excited about where you're going here. I mean with
with with a fish, whether they be football, whether they

(58:02):
be basketball, whether they be baseball. I'mpiring crew. Normally what
happens is the circle of life says like, if there's
someone that's in that chain that is the weak link,
normally the rest I e. Your fellow coaches in the
Big twelve, when you guys sit down at your meetings,

(58:22):
you go like, hey, man, Spanky Smith is freaking terrible,
and that guy over there says, Spanky Smith's terrible. Spanky
Smith's terrible. Spanky. You know what happens, Spanky Smith man,
It's the chain of life. See you later, Spanky. You
eventually you get eaten. And that's if you're not strong enough.

Speaker 3 (58:44):
I don't love talking about it because how tired of
an act a coach talking about.

Speaker 1 (58:49):
Bad officiating or getting ejected. What a tired story. That
is just what plays well in West Virginia. Though sometimes
it's like you see it.

Speaker 2 (59:02):
Sometimes its bad.

Speaker 1 (59:04):
Like if you were like if you were still.

Speaker 2 (59:06):
Got to overcome you gotta win the game. We guy,
we know all the disclaimers you put on.

Speaker 3 (59:09):
It was it was, it was bad. And uh you
could see right when you're around the game enough and
you see what's going on in somebody's eyes and you
see the aggressive level.

Speaker 1 (59:18):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (59:19):
When when an officiator is supposed to be this mediator
to make sure that the game happens, and it happens
on time, incorrectly and the rules are followed, there has
to be some like you know, some adult supervision, adult right,
their job is to like control the emotions. And so
when you see the officiator, when the officials are feeding
into the emotion, you're like, well, that's definitely.

Speaker 1 (59:40):
Not your job. We say it in basketball, we see
your banana, We see referees get really pissed. You can't
do that.

Speaker 3 (59:46):
Feel like that's once you see that, you lose respect.

Speaker 1 (59:50):
But we see I mean we you see them. I
mean I see guys, because I'm sitting right there, I
see him getting pissed, and I see him getting pissed,
and then instantly I'll see that whistle go for no reason.
What's the because they're pissed. You can't do that.

Speaker 3 (01:00:02):
No, I don't understand. I feel like that's probably more
important than being technically sound, is just controlling the emotions
of the game.

Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
I agree with you. I agree with you. It's like,
just like you don't think coaches talking about officiating plays well.
Let me explain on something. So it doesn't play well,
Like if you belong to like a polo club like
over in England and you complain about the arbiter or
the officiating like that, that does not play well here,
But like in West Virginia, like it plays well it's

(01:00:30):
played well for years, We'll play well forever, right, play well.
We've never committed a file, right, We've never We've never
had a you know, that's not what we do. We
don't hold in football right and in baseball like we've
never we've never like not swung at a strike. I mean,
that's just like we do everything right.

Speaker 2 (01:00:49):
Sometimes you got to talk about it, you know my
stance on this. Yes, it's a hard job. There's not
enough of them. We need more. We're facing an umpire
and officiating crisis and all that. I get it, But
it's also at this level when we're evaluating games and
sports something you have to talk about it. It influences
games baseball ball and strike calls influence games basketball. The
way you officiate the game influences games. It's it's part

(01:01:12):
of it, and.

Speaker 3 (01:01:12):
It's been a long time coming where umpires haven't really
been held accountable for some sort of standard. There's not
an official, you know, system that grades them out and
the weakest get eliminated necessarily. We're getting a little bit
closer on balls and strikes. Those are track man data

(01:01:33):
reports and the guy that's outside of the zone. Twenty
percent of the time, like he doesn't get to keep
his job for too much longer. So that's one that's
one aspect of this. So we're going in the right direction,
but for a long time, it's a black box of
Johnnies that are getting jobs because they know their buddy exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:01:49):
Would you take roboms ball strikes? Are you on board
with that?

Speaker 1 (01:01:53):
Oh? No?

Speaker 3 (01:01:55):
I I like the human element a little bit. I
just want to hold the humans accountable. I'm not anti
robo you know, strike zone. I just feel like it
might slow the game down. And I think the human
element is what people are missing in general. There's so
much less human element in everything that we do. So
it's like, eventually, why don't we just play e sports?

Speaker 1 (01:02:18):
You know? Interesting?

Speaker 2 (01:02:20):
Okay, speaking of people, let's talk business of baseball for
a second. How can people help in this new era?
It's different now, right, there's not just the pay for
plays kind of gone away. There's revenue sharing's part of this.
How can people help the program? They're listening to this podcast,
say they say, hey, this is awesome, we want to
get behind this program. How can they help? How would

(01:02:41):
you tell people they can help your program?

Speaker 3 (01:02:43):
Yeah, there's two real ways that are going to directly
influence baseball. So there's something through the MAC Club that's
called a Baseball Enhancement Fund, and if funds go there,
we can literally help our players eat meals, build baseball
lab by strength and conditioning equipment, all those things that

(01:03:03):
will help our program. And probably the more creative side
of this that's coming down the pike that we've already
started to implement is true NIL deals with companies corporations
that want to represent a baseball player. And so before
it was more of a collective based model where collectives

(01:03:23):
would raise money through either private funds or businesses and
would funnel that money to players. And so now they're
trying to legitimize that name, image and likeness deals. So
the players are responsible for submitting these deals through something
called nil go. But essentially a great way to help

(01:03:44):
is if you have an LLC or a company and
you say, I want to get behind West Virginia Baseball,
I want to be associated with those guys. I want
for a player or players to represent my company or me.
We can do that, and so I'm in the I'm
currently heavily involved with trying to set up players with
these entities. So we can create some sort of long

(01:04:04):
term plan where we know that there's x amount of
business dollars coming into our team, and eventually we'll be
able to recruit with that and we'll be able to
build packages for the best players in the country. And
our guys they're not driving ferraris, Like this is a
different sport, right. We got guys that are still playing
pretty decent amount to just go to school. So they're
paying for apartments, they're paying for their bills. Nobody's getting

(01:04:28):
rich playing for West Virginia Baseball currently. And so if
there is, if there's people that have companies or LLCs,
I want them to reach out to me and get
involved with the program.

Speaker 2 (01:04:37):
Okay, so they can reach out to you, they can
go through the Matt Golden Blue Enterprises will be a
new entity that's developing that can help with that. So
any of those ways work, that's.

Speaker 1 (01:04:44):
Right, I'll personally talk to you. Yeah, A couple things
along this line. How much would JJ Weatherholt cost in
today's baseball world, Like people would come after him, Like
let's say he had eligibility previous to getting to Like
what would he be? Is he a million dollar player
in nil world? In the baseball world. What's that.

Speaker 3 (01:05:05):
Yeah, I think somebody in the right scenario that was
in the portal and the draft had passed, and it
was the best player in college baseball that just set
the the hitting record. I was the best hitter as
a sophomore. I think he's probably a million dollars. If
you said I'm gonna get revenue share and deals together

(01:05:28):
and this all this package that we bring together, I
would say that would be fair, but that would be abnormal.
That would be very abnormal. He would be one of
the highest paid players in college baseball. But I think
they would package together these deals from companies and build
about a million dollar package.

Speaker 1 (01:05:45):
You do something called summer Bridge. Tell me about summer
Bridge with your kids. Cool program.

Speaker 3 (01:05:50):
Every incoming freshman gets on campus six weeks early and
just gets acclimated to college life. So I think some
programs take for granted that these guys know what they're doing.
But they're just great athletes that want to be great.
But a lot of them don't know how to do
laundry or cracking egg yet.

Speaker 1 (01:06:06):
Is this truth?

Speaker 3 (01:06:07):
And so we start with basic life skills of come in.
We got burners set up and pans and guys are
making omelets and breakfast burritos in the morning like a class,
like a cooking class.

Speaker 1 (01:06:17):
Almost this is awesome.

Speaker 3 (01:06:20):
And then they're going to lift voluntarily. They're doing they're
learning how to take care of their arms and their body.
They're going to a class every day. They're just getting
acclimated at a very slow period. But more importantly just building
relationships with their boys. They're far away from home. They
never lived on their own, so they're getting a group
of kids and players that they can rely on. They

(01:06:40):
can have rides, they know how to use their swipe
car access. They're figuring out where the hell they are.
A lot of them, you know, came on a visit
and we've rushed them around and taken places, and they
still don't know really where they're living.

Speaker 1 (01:06:52):
Yeah, that's good. That's a great thing. You write a
great email. You send an email. How many people are
on that email list?

Speaker 3 (01:06:58):
Probably about eight hundred a thousand and something like that.

Speaker 1 (01:07:01):
So I was just thinking, I was looking at the
most recent edition. You could probably put a sponsor inside
that thing, monetize it, and then kick all the money
into the program. I'm serious.

Speaker 3 (01:07:12):
Yeah, And that's where I need help and I've we
got this. We have a club called the Inner Circle, right,
people that have donated fifty thousand dollars over five years
to the program, and they've claimed a locker in our
locker room. I think we have seven lockers that are
remaining for people that want to be part of that.
But a lot of those things that come up where
I don't I don't know. I'm I'm trying to teach

(01:07:32):
guys to turn double plays and build rosters and.

Speaker 1 (01:07:35):
Six four to three.

Speaker 3 (01:07:36):
Yeah, But I I do value communication and I want
to I want people to be involved. And like you
saying that alone, I've never thought of that makes good.

Speaker 1 (01:07:43):
I'm just looking at it. It's great. I mean, this
is like really good. Well, I like it.

Speaker 3 (01:07:47):
It helps me summarize what the hell's going on in
our program and build a vision for the future.

Speaker 1 (01:07:52):
And I'm into that.

Speaker 3 (01:07:55):
And there's some balance, right, like of monetizing it where
it actually feels real, like I sat in the office
and rope that yesterday, and there's probably grammatical errors and
it's probably a mess. So there's some like balance of
like turning it into.

Speaker 1 (01:08:07):
Like chatch EPT takes care of it, like that I
don't do any We'll take care of the grammar like
about seven seconds.

Speaker 3 (01:08:15):
Yeah, but I want the authentic feel of like, hey,
this is I care about what we're doing inside the program.
But also I think we are in the day and
age where like we need help financially in the program.

Speaker 1 (01:08:25):
Okay, well maybe maybe someone's listening or watching us. They'll
go like, yeah, I'll put my name on something that's
being seen by because we can anyone subscribe to it.

Speaker 3 (01:08:36):
Yeah, anybody that's into what best Virginia Baseball? I want
to get that email. So you got eight hundred thousand.
I think it's basically people that have come to the banquet. Okay,
we'll given money. We can make that thing three thousand,
like really fast. I don't know if you know anything
about this show. We move stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:08:49):
I know you're we moved up there now, So how
do you sign up for it?

Speaker 1 (01:08:54):
Yeah? Literally, he doesn't.

Speaker 3 (01:08:55):
It's literally like, hey, who came to the banquet? Let
me add it to an excel I have in the office.
I'm doing it.

Speaker 2 (01:09:01):
You need an email address, so if we get email addresses,
it's added. Yeah, that's all you need.

Speaker 3 (01:09:05):
Yeah, but I should probably have some system where you
can email three thousand out of time. I'm literally from
my outlook pulling four hundred and fifty and sending that.
Then the other four hundred. Oh yeah, I'm thinking that deal.

Speaker 1 (01:09:17):
We'll take care of it. Yeah, we got it. We'd
be great.

Speaker 3 (01:09:21):
I just want when someone reads that to be like
Sabs wrote this. Yes, it didn't come from like an
intern in the back. You don't get this at all.
Sometimes you get that disingenuous feel from some of those
like now, what we could do.

Speaker 1 (01:09:34):
Deal, Let's take about fifteen or twenty of those past
ones you wrote, put it into chad GPT and then
it gets your style and then just say okay, here's
the topics, and it'll go and it'll be done like that.
We'll do that. I know. I'm just saying you could could.
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I hope this helped get the pro I mean we're
just trying to help the program because we get giddy.
We love it.

Speaker 2 (01:10:46):
Yeah's giddy love it.

Speaker 1 (01:10:47):
We love it. We do love it.

Speaker 3 (01:10:49):
Yeah, this is incredible. It's fun for us. I don't think. Yeah,
ten years ago, there's probably not a baseball coach in
the summer talking about baseball, no.

Speaker 1 (01:10:59):
Nor a long way away from the season.

Speaker 3 (01:11:01):
And we're starting to figure out and it's amazing, Bill Roster,
and it's been fun. And I think these kids that
are coming here, they start feeling that in a hurry,
like there's a lot of people that care about place
they do.

Speaker 1 (01:11:12):
I mean so real quick. And this was in your newsletter.

Speaker 3 (01:11:16):
We got we got biscuit nil deals. We've got email sponsors.
There's a lot for you to live up to.

Speaker 1 (01:11:24):
We're fine. So you've got a here's your here's your
upcoming stuff. We're recording on what twenty third, So tomorrow
you've got Traveling Youth Camps twenty ninth. They got Traveling
Youth Camps August nine, Prospect Identification August ten, Middle High School,
Middle School Pitching Hitting Camp, thirty first July Life is

(01:11:44):
a Mountaineer camp, and then six and seven Mountaineer Classic
Team Camp September sixth and seven. Doors will be open.
Folks can watch you play fallball. Yes, you do that
normally on a Friday, and sometimes you interwine that with
a before home football game.

Speaker 3 (01:11:59):
Yeah, we will, and I'll come up with that schedule
and I'll email that on this new sponsored email to
everybody and it will look it'll look great. I'm excited
about last year. We started doing that Friday night under
the lights kind of fall scrimmages and it definitely picked
up some traction and guys will come out to the ballpark.

Speaker 1 (01:12:15):
It's free.

Speaker 3 (01:12:15):
People were bringing coolers and ice chests and had beers
and dinner and were hanging out watching baseball.

Speaker 1 (01:12:21):
You know who's really good, like really good Jake Wegghorst,
the analyst. Yeah, he's on the Mountaineer Sports Network. Fantastic.
Like I listened to him and I just learned he
knows what he's talking to. Love guys that know baseball.
Like he just like goes, Okay, here's this. Here's that.
This guy's thinking he's.

Speaker 3 (01:12:40):
Good because he shows up to fall scrimmages and sits
and watches heat baseball. He's a baseball fan, baseball guy. Yeah,
he's not just trying to fill a side gig. No,
by talking. He knows what he's talking about.

Speaker 1 (01:12:50):
Like he goes home and he watches like those ESPN
Plus games, like you know, very remote locations like far
away baseball Noutheastern States. He said, there's a D three
playing a division Why I want I catch that when
I get home. He's into it. He's invested. Yep.

Speaker 3 (01:13:08):
This fall, we have set up a fall game against
Kentucky at Prasco Park in Cincinnati, and then we're going
to play Wake Forest on the road as well. So
we have two Division One competitors that are on the road.
The reason we do that we have to open up
the season on the road, so our guys start learning
how to travel, ride buses, get out, compete, stay the night.

(01:13:32):
So we try to take advantage of those opportunities by
going on the road, and we'll probably end up playing
fifteen to twenty scrimmage games at the ballpark over the
course of the fall.

Speaker 1 (01:13:40):
That's awesome. Yeah, congratulations on your new deal. Thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:13:44):
So you're going to stick around a little bit, that's it. Yeah, yeah,
very fortunate. The family did a It was great for
the family. And wife loves it here. I obviously love
it here. My kids were born here there. We just
moved to a new house. They're going to Suncrest Elementary
School next year, so we have now we're going into
second and kindergarten.

Speaker 1 (01:14:04):
Second's a good great got a whole lot of stress. Kindergarten.
Kindergarden different thing kindergar kindergarten. I mean once you a
just yeah, he'll be fine. What's her jobs? They still
do trucks in kindergarten.

Speaker 2 (01:14:15):
What does that mean?

Speaker 1 (01:14:16):
Like big we used to I eve to truck like
a big truck. You just kind of push around on
the floor in the conner.

Speaker 2 (01:14:20):
They're doing calculus and stuff now playing higher.

Speaker 1 (01:14:23):
It's higher level. It is higher level level. Tucker's not
doing calculus. He's still on the truck.

Speaker 2 (01:14:28):
He's doing the truck, learning Spanish, some coating and some.

Speaker 1 (01:14:32):
Does he have a Does he have a t ball
that he hits off of? Yeah? He does t ball.
What do you think? What do you think? Early on solid? Good?

Speaker 3 (01:14:39):
He has a good swing. What he can do is throw.
He can really throw anything better than every.

Speaker 1 (01:14:45):
Four year old sometimes in the house.

Speaker 3 (01:14:47):
Oh yeah, he gets it. Charlie's into baseball, the seven
year old girl. I keep telling her, like, next year
is gonna be great, We'll get into softball. She she
damn near breaks down crying. She wants to play baseball.
She's coming went to baseball.

Speaker 1 (01:15:00):
Why wouldn't she?

Speaker 2 (01:15:01):
Yeah, yeah, let that thing go, man, let's fly.

Speaker 1 (01:15:04):
All right. Well, listen, you've given us a lot of
your valuable time. We we certainly appreciate it. I've been
wanting to do this, but I wanted your dust to settle.
I wanted your portal guys to get all portaled in
and then yeah, this thing doesn't that I mean, it's
like school starts here and like less than a month.

Speaker 3 (01:15:20):
That's right, And it speeds up as soon as the
season's over. That's the busiest time of year and it's
not really close. You have players in, players out portal,
new players coming to campus, and the draft, and so usually.

Speaker 1 (01:15:33):
Right before school starts. It's a little eye of the storm.

Speaker 3 (01:15:37):
You've got a couple of weeks there where you can
sneak away where everyone knows it's about to start, but
your responsibilities are a.

Speaker 1 (01:15:42):
Little bit less, right, I brother appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (01:15:44):
Yeah, thanks so much for having you guys.

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