3 Guys Before The Game - Dusty Rutledge Visits (Episode 647)

He's colorful, opinionated and the ultimate definition of a "FOOTBALL GUY".  

Robert "Dusty" Rutledge begins his second tour of duty with West Virginia University's football program as Senior Associate Athletic Director and Chief of Staff for head coach Rich Rodriguez.  

In this episode, Rutledge gives a behind-the-scenes look into over 40 years in the coaching business.  From his days as the last known college player-coach to his ongoing battle with cancer, it's an entertaining and informative visit with a key member of the Mountaineer football program. 

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:12):
Showtime. I think they used to call this touchdown City
showtime and touchdown City welcome in. Forgot about remember that? Yeah?
Three guys before the game. Oh do we have one
for you? I mean, do we have one for you?
Rhetorical question answer I already knew answer. Yes, he's here,
Dusty Rutledge. That's all that needs to be said. The

(00:36):
duster is in the building. We're talking mountain near football
and a whole lot more. Wonderful to have here, great
to be here.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
I love.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
Where's my headset?

Speaker 2 (00:46):
So head?

Speaker 1 (00:47):
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but we are all back together. In addition to our guests,
Dusty Hoppy is back and this is one of the
all time great stories. He just completed last week a

(01:55):
four hundred and seven mile bike ride throughout a majority
of the state of Iowa and something that is called
Ragbri which is an annual event. And Hoppy is back.
He's tanned. I can't say that he's rested because it

(02:16):
was an incredible challenge.

Speaker 3 (02:18):
Huh, it was. It was wonderful and it was terrible.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
What does that mean.

Speaker 3 (02:25):
I mean, it's all things that it was wonderful because,
as Brad noses an Iowa native, Iowa and ice is
a real thing. Wonderful people. You rode from town to
town each day and just wonderful, warm, welcoming people. The
vibe was outstanding. Uh, it's it's a beautiful place, frankly,

(02:46):
with the with the spreading fields of soybeans and corn.
The terrible part is you had to ride across. I
mean it was hard and heat and humidity, heat and humidity,
so it was hard. Now it was some Iowa storms, okay, windstorms,
and it was like one day we made it, but

(03:07):
one day, dusty, the ride was seventy miles. Somehow, Brad,
you can explain this that in western and central Iowa,
all the hill it's all uphill. There's no downhill like
West Virginia go uphill and downhill. Sure, it was just
all uphill, uphill, ninety five degrees, ninety five percent of
humidity and a twenty mile an hour headwind. It's just brutal,

(03:28):
just brutal.

Speaker 4 (03:28):
Well, I owe you an apology. I said you wouldn't
make it.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
I didn't think you'd go. I thought you were break
injuries going in, you were taking shots going in.

Speaker 4 (03:34):
Literally was didn't. I just didn't think you'd make it.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
The foot, how'd the foot do that? They put that
needle in before you left, about that big good needle.

Speaker 3 (03:42):
Helps, But it was you know again, it was all,
you know, a neat thing. I was thinking about this,
and I won't believe it the point because we got
to get to the duster. But that when you do something,
when you have what I classify as an adventure, Yeah,
you're so consumed by that that nothing on the outside matter. Okay,

(04:03):
So I didn't read the.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
News for a week.

Speaker 3 (04:05):
I didn't worry about stuff outside. It was all about
how long is the line at the porta John?

Speaker 1 (04:10):
Sure?

Speaker 2 (04:11):
You know?

Speaker 3 (04:11):
How long is the beer line? What's this rod going
to be? Can I get to the next town. So
you're solely focused on what is happening, and there is
a clarity that comes with that, and that part I
really really valued and enjoyed.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
Yeah, there could be a whole show on this thing.
One last question about it. David Robinson, the NBA great,
participated in it. You think he slept in the.

Speaker 3 (04:34):
Tent if he did have to have two tents put together.

Speaker 1 (04:38):
I'm thinking, my man's got like one of those sprinter Mercedes,
nice sprinter campers. He just kind of pulls up on
the side, sleeps in there.

Speaker 4 (04:43):
And then he almost had to have the bike the
size of Red Panda's unicycles, right.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
Red Panda, by the way, coming back from.

Speaker 4 (04:55):
That before.

Speaker 3 (04:55):
Yeah, by the way, there was a unicycle rider, a
guy who rode a unicycle.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
All the way four and seven.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
There's there's what I understand. Okay, So as a society
we rest Yeah. So we started off with the unicycles,
and then we got hey, let's make it easier. Let's
get two wheels. And then we decided let's put an
engine on it. All right, so if you're going to
go to Iowa, drive across the.

Speaker 1 (05:27):
Sounds like a form of transportation that was miserable.

Speaker 3 (05:30):
Well it was, but you know what it does.

Speaker 4 (05:32):
Were there any electric bikes an.

Speaker 1 (05:37):
Doesn't count, would they look down upon No, they had
to be, they should be.

Speaker 4 (05:42):
It makes so nice. I realized a couple of things.

Speaker 3 (05:44):
One is that they're so common now number one, and
number two is what the electric bike does. It enables
people who maybe physically feel like they can't do it
or older to do the event and still instill that
that's fair for that. But you know, guys, I'd look
if I'm out riding. My wife and I were doing
ten to twelve miles an hour, but there would be
This attracts bikers from not only across the country, but

(06:05):
around the world. Because it's one of the premier biking
events that exists. And so you'd be riding on, chuggling along,
and I mean a peloton.

Speaker 1 (06:15):
Would come buzzby to Iowa. It's word to Iowa.

Speaker 2 (06:18):
That's like twenty NBC orda Iowa.

Speaker 3 (06:25):
But you know, Brad, it's your home state. And I
really have I really thought the folks of Iowa were outstanding.

Speaker 1 (06:31):
Well, the thing I like is you've embraced the state.
He turned his back on the state, left, never went back.
I mean it's like warrants there or something like that.
I'm here, Dusty, Hey almost heaven. Yeah, I'm here. Okay,
last thing on the bike, Jake, if you would happy?
This did wear your backside out? You look tired. This
was when you just finished.

Speaker 4 (06:49):
That's when you just how do you do that to
the guy?

Speaker 1 (06:51):
Well, he sent the picture the pictures for you.

Speaker 4 (06:53):
I don't know that that was for public consumption. I
think that was a private.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
Special seek and a lot of right, and that is
a lot right. Here's your backside.

Speaker 4 (07:03):
Us you want to know about the backside?

Speaker 3 (07:04):
Backside actually held up reasonably.

Speaker 1 (07:06):
Well, that's great.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:08):
So and here's another picture when it was all over
with and hop rant or road. Obviously with wife Karen.
You touched the you touched the wheel of the bike,
the tire into the Mississippi River.

Speaker 2 (07:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (07:20):
What you do is it was Gottenburg, Iowa.

Speaker 3 (07:21):
Correct, we were got what you're supposed to do is
you put your back when you start, you put your
back wheel in the Missouri River, right, okay, And which
we did not. Orange City is not on the Missouri,
so we actually they had a canal come through and
you could kind of pretend you did it, and then
you're right across and get to the end. You put
your front tire in the Mississippi.

Speaker 4 (07:42):
Is so neat as you did that, and you didn't
do the Missouri as some say.

Speaker 3 (07:45):
Not not technically the Missouri.

Speaker 1 (07:48):
So it was the single greatest athletic accomplishment in your life.
For four hundred and seven miles in the span of
six days and you're seventy years old.

Speaker 3 (07:55):
Seven days out. Yeah, it was the most difficult, and you.

Speaker 4 (07:58):
Know off with snagging injuries.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
Sure went in hurt, Dusty. What's the difference between injury
and hurt?

Speaker 2 (08:04):
Well, if you're injured.

Speaker 1 (08:06):
You can't Yeah, it's a hurt.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
It's a boom boot it's an auchie, so maybe he
had a couple of auchi's, but yeah, I'm giving a
guy serious props. It's I make funny and a little
bit of a hobby of that's okay, seriously, that's that's impressive.

Speaker 3 (08:19):
Thank you. It was uh, you know, thanks to Vitamin I,
I have a profen.

Speaker 1 (08:24):
Yeah, hit that hard. Taking eight hundreds is a shot.

Speaker 3 (08:26):
I didn't take a hut. Well, I took the equivalent
of but took a lot of that.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
But that's great.

Speaker 3 (08:31):
It was Uh, it was a once in a lifetime.

Speaker 1 (08:33):
Yeah, and by one.

Speaker 4 (08:34):
Let me give you a medicine folks helps you in
on the front end to get you ready.

Speaker 3 (08:37):
Absolutely help with the folks. That's a peak health physical therapy.

Speaker 4 (08:42):
Way laid our one podcast because you had to get
help from Randy Metter personal from Randy before we could
get started.

Speaker 2 (08:47):
So he got meta on the show.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
Randy should do that event, Brandy could do that. He
would love that.

Speaker 3 (08:54):
But it's but it's a congratulations, that's impressed. I think
I'm pretty sure it's a one and done.

Speaker 4 (08:58):
Yeah, sorry, check I did.

Speaker 3 (08:59):
I'd run into one or two three guys listeners.

Speaker 1 (09:03):
Why are we not surprised? Of course, three guys before
the game, our special guest. This is awesome. He's back,
Dusty Rutledge his second tour of duty. He is the
senior Associate athletic director and the chief of staff overseeing
Mountaineer football. This young man here has more stories than

(09:24):
doctor Seuss. He has been centrally involved in football here
in the state of West Virginia. Now we're working on
forty plus years since this young man came from his
home state of Ohio to play at Fairmont State University
under a Wallace hood had football coach. There are the
Falcons and to this moment, to the best of anyone's confirmation,

(09:49):
Dusty is the and this is I'm not being funny here.
Dusty is the last collegiate football player to serve as
a player coach coach. He was an offensive lineman and
the offensive line coach at Fairmont State University, and it
is believed to be the last player coach in college

(10:12):
football history. It was more coach player, Yeah, snapper, you
know what I mean that he played, I played, he coached.
Exactly how old were you when you were coaching these
young lads? So you were what twenty twenty one? How
did that happen? How did how did Wally Hood, who
was a legendary successful coach, how did it come to?

(10:34):
I think he deputized you as the line coach while
you were still playing.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
I was going to go coach. I was just an
average player, nah best average? Oh yeah, really good long
snapper though, really good. All the people out there, really good.
So we went got done with my a couple of
shoulder injuries. And I'm not one of those guys that
I give it up because I gave it up because

(10:59):
I wasn't very good.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
And I love the game.

Speaker 2 (11:01):
And I have an opinion about everything. Okay, so hey,
you want to you want to be a coach? I
love to do that. And I was going to be
a coach to the defensive line. So we went through
all the summer meetings with a guy named Rich Rodriguez.
He's a fair Salem and just dropped football. Okay, So
Rich was going to be the d line coach and

(11:22):
I was going to be as assistant. And then a
week before camp started, he gets the restricted, earning his
job the part time job here at West Virginia and
goes and teach drivers at drivers at over North Marion
and I'm at Fairmount State still, so Wally we hired

(11:44):
a defensive line coach. It was a younger guy, and
he didn't want to put two young guys, so Wally
was going to coach Walley coach did offensive line as
the head coach, and he said, well, you're gonna come
over to the be my assistant. About three days into practice,
he goes, I'm going to watch Skelley.

Speaker 4 (12:02):
Huh.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
Yeah, he said, just just do the drills. Cripes, you say, cripes,
he did, cusspes, cripes, guys, just do the drills.

Speaker 1 (12:14):
So there you are a player coach.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
Yeah, this is I would I would well, I was
going to coach that year. And then we went to
get ready to play Shepherd for the conference championship in
nineteen eighty eight, and our long snapper got hurt and
we would always play basketball as the staff after practice,
and we're in there and goofing around. I said, well,

(12:38):
snapping the balls like riding a bike. Well, cripes, let
me see I snap a couple. He goes, Okay, we'll
go up to the athletic director tell him coldon Cameron time,
and then let's make sure he's eligible. I wasn't because
I wasn't the best of students, and I majored in registration,
kept registering for classes, and at that five years said

(13:00):
you can go now, so we go. So I long
snapped that a Shepherd game Shepherd for the conference championship,
and I would be out there coaching and here comes
time for special teams and put the shoulder.

Speaker 1 (13:22):
Snap and then go back to run the scout team.
So that was Monny Cater and Wally Hood back in
those days, matching wits. Right, Monni was at Monny.

Speaker 2 (13:30):
I don't know if that was Monny's No, I think
it was water Bar.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
Yeah, portaled out of Shepherd.

Speaker 2 (13:38):
Yeah, yeah, he was there.

Speaker 1 (13:39):
Yeah, Walter Barr yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh that's awesome.
So this Richard Rodriguez that so he departs, he goes
becomes restricted earnings at West Virginia. At West Virginia, how
do you guys hook back up Glenville.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
He gets the job at Glenville head coach, head coach.

Speaker 1 (13:58):
High story that when he went in there the program
to say it was down would be an understatement. And
the previous coach had a dog that he would bring
into the coach's office. Maybe his coach had a dog
who lived in the office and there was remains of dogs.

Speaker 2 (14:12):
Yeah, just everywhere, I guess. And I wasn't there to
see this. So it was a crappy job. Yeah, literally literally, Yeah,
he's proud of himself on that one. Yes. He After
year one, he hires a friend of mine, Dean Hood.
Dean was head coach Eastern Kentucky and Maurice State, now

(14:34):
he's back at the University of Kentucky. Was a defensive
coordinator a bunch of different places. Good football, great football coach.
So they get to you get the call down, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
Come on in Glenville.

Speaker 2 (14:43):
I'm like, no, I'm not going to Glenville.

Speaker 1 (14:46):
I'm not living in Glenville.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
Yeah, I'll well, it wasn't even I didn't know there
was no respect to you until I got there. We
had more fun.

Speaker 1 (14:56):
But anyway, So I get to finally it can't beat him.
You could see what he was doing.

Speaker 2 (15:01):
He was turning the program around and it was completely
different than everybody else in the league. How they recruited,
how they played. So I went down there, and then
when I got there, it was the greatest. It was
as fun of three years as you can ever possibly have. Yeah, Glennville,
West Virginia. So I was a full I was wrong.

Speaker 1 (15:22):
So this is right. You got there right after he
played for the Natty and ninety three. Yep, And so
Jed Drenning is there.

Speaker 2 (15:29):
Jed was just getting done as a player, Okay, Jed.
Of course, you guys all know Jed. Jed. Jack can
tell you every interception he threw in college, what the
play call was, why he threw it, who he's seen
you know, we were running sixty four smash and.

Speaker 1 (15:46):
Savant, Yeah, idiot savant.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
Yeah. Well I don't know if you needed to put
the idiot in front of it. But now Jed and
our friends we talked to this morning, so he understands. Yeah,
and we had we just a great group of group
of guys and characters.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
It was wild, but it was wild, yeah, in a
good wild.

Speaker 2 (16:06):
I mean it was great wild. One of the neatest
things I ever seen. It was Halloween and I think
it was year two and we're like eight and one
or some at the time, and we hear the guys
in the locker room. You're yelling back and forth. Riches like, hey,
go out there and see what they're doing. Okay, hey, guys,
what are you doing. I'm like that guy Bull Durham

(16:28):
on the mountain. What's going on here?

Speaker 4 (16:33):
You can have six make a nice gift.

Speaker 2 (16:34):
Exactly, always live, I think the live rooster and stuff.
But anyways, so the players, they they settled down and lead.
Well what they did is they divided the team up
into offense versus defense. They went and bought every egg
in town.

Speaker 1 (16:48):
Uh not going well? Yeah, so Glenville Kroger probably kicked
it up a little bit.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
Oh it was food Land, the food Land deli by
the way. Yeah, we'll just leave that there.

Speaker 1 (17:01):
Yeah, I just live that there. So you guys win,
and then you and Rodriguez depart again. He goes to Tulane.
He goes to Tulane. I was going to go as
a graduate assistant at least one or two, and you couldn't.
They couldn't get me in school. What do you mean
by that that you couldn't major in registration to two?

Speaker 2 (17:17):
Exactly?

Speaker 1 (17:17):
They didn't have that major. And I'm like, well, real school.

Speaker 2 (17:21):
You know. So I go to Indiana and spent four
years in boy Indiana was a great place to live.
I tell people those for three hundred and fifty five
days of the year. That eleven football Saturdays were rough,
but the rest of the year was it.

Speaker 1 (17:39):
Was good town and you had Antoine randall L back then,
that's right, Cam Cameron was the coach, right, and so
Antoine Randallill was Yeah, he was special, really special.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
Yeah, yeah, he was specially Antoine Randall L and Rich
Rodriguez system would have been yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:57):
Really.

Speaker 2 (17:58):
I remember we had an option clinic in Nebraska, came
in to watch. We had a an option team from
every conference in the country. So Nebraska was there, Army
was there. Cal Poly are one of them schools. Never
forget Army. Coach said, if we had that kid at quarterback,
we would never lose m hm, and Frank sold it

(18:23):
Ship Nebraska said, if we had that kid at quarterback,
we'd never punt.

Speaker 1 (18:30):
Yeah, players make it.

Speaker 3 (18:31):
Players make a difference.

Speaker 1 (18:33):
It's it's not your ex'es and o's, that's your Jimmy's
and your Joe's.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (18:38):
Yeah, so you go you're there for then Rich gets
the job here, You're you're just like so, you're just
on a first card. Roll that Rollo dex. Back then
you had ROLLERDX. You didn't take it off your phone.
He was just like whenever he goes somewhere, he at
least tries to bring you along. Why do you think
he likes you?

Speaker 2 (18:59):
I try to figure it out out all the time,
and then but I don't want him to figure it
out because sometimes you gotta be careful. You keep in life,
you keep searching for the answer, searching for the answer,
but all of a sudden you give someone else the
answer and it's not the one you want, right right,
So I think loyalty, And it's not just I'm loyal

(19:23):
to him. He's loyal to me too now and he's
been and he saved my life.

Speaker 1 (19:29):
But yeah, we'll talk about that. We'll talk about that
when you guys first got here. So it's Rich's first
power for job. We wouldn't even have power for back
then before we had there was being more than power
for back then. What are your first record? So you're
doing it again?

Speaker 4 (19:45):
Right?

Speaker 1 (19:45):
I mean this is year one again, year one again,
like recollections back then, similarities comparisons to what you guys
are doing now, very similar.

Speaker 2 (19:59):
And this the culture you set a standard and how
you practice and all those things and how we work
out and are you sit in a meeting room and
all those So the culture part is never ending.

Speaker 1 (20:14):
So that part is.

Speaker 2 (20:17):
We had a bunch of kids leave the first year
and had a bunch of kids leave this time their
first year. But I think the bit, one of the
biggest thing is you get to replace them now, and
you could replace them then. That's a huge part of it.
Huge gives you much better opportunity.

Speaker 4 (20:31):
Time is funny. Sometimes things that happened a long time
ago don't feel like that long ago. Sometimes they feel
even longer than what they were. The time gap between
when you were last year and returning, does it feel
like it was nearly two decades ago? Does it feel
less than that?

Speaker 2 (20:47):
It's that's a great question because before we got here,
I felt as though it was.

Speaker 1 (20:52):
A lifetime ago. And as soon as you get.

Speaker 2 (20:55):
Back and you land at the airport and you dry
then and you're like, oh, the mall ground hasn't changed.

Speaker 1 (21:05):
Oh, Jersey Mike is still always on the ground, good
round the roundabout.

Speaker 2 (21:10):
Wow, we've right on. It was at seven fires over
the hill and you're like, I remember that that farm
and has that little yeah, little yeah, the gates still there,
still rusty, yeah. And then you turn the corner. And
that's that's oh boy, because when we first left, the
Suncrest Center had I think a Damon's which is now

(21:33):
the Mexican Place was just being built.

Speaker 1 (21:35):
Yeah, how about that?

Speaker 2 (21:36):
We had? There was nothing else.

Speaker 1 (21:37):
I mean, the town's really changed.

Speaker 4 (21:41):
So it came back to you quickly. The familiarity and
where home came back quickly. Yeah, and it.

Speaker 2 (21:46):
Was it was a special place. I mean, so you
I'm sure if I went back to some other places
that yeah, okay, but this was this was really neat place, Dusty.
It's really still a neat place you.

Speaker 3 (21:59):
I don't think it's in I don't think it's an
embellishment to say you would be closer to Rich than
any other current or former coach or staff member. You've
been with him for almost into the fourth decade, correct, correct,
so you've had time to reflect. Was it a mistake

(22:20):
for Rich to leave from Michigan.

Speaker 1 (22:22):
That's that's a question for him to answer. What do
you think it was.

Speaker 2 (22:26):
A mistake for me to to before? I mean not
I the year before when he went to go to Alabama,
I walked in and I told him that before the
day made the decision, I walked in and said, coach,
I don't care what you do. You know what I mean.
We stay here and we're gonna win. We go to Alabama,

(22:46):
we're gonna win. Don't care. I knew, I do know
it is out Alabama and he stayed the following year.

Speaker 1 (22:58):
I grew up in Michigan, even though you're from Ohio.

Speaker 2 (23:01):
Yeah, because I've always been that guy. I've always been
that guy on the other side for somebody else. I'm there,
you know what I mean. My favorite baseball player of
all times, Pete Rose. I hate the Reds.

Speaker 1 (23:15):
So you went into Michigan. You said this is a
good move.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
Yeah, and I was wrong. I've apologized to him and
his you know, I mean, in his office several times.

Speaker 3 (23:26):
Why was it wrong?

Speaker 2 (23:29):
I think as you as you get older, you realize
that grass is not always greener somewhere else. Okay, And
culture is really important. Culture is where do you fit? Okay?
Where do you fit?

Speaker 4 (23:45):
So you believe fit? Like we talk about fit all time,
wise fits fits way up the list of importance.

Speaker 2 (23:51):
Take who's the greatest college football coach of all time? Nick?
Ask them people Michigan State, do the greatest college foll
coaches all time at Michigan State and ain't Nick Saban
what was he fifth on their list? George Perlis, Biggie
bun Mark D'Antonio, Duffy Doherty.

Speaker 3 (24:07):
Duffy Doherty, nice, Duffie Doerty reference.

Speaker 1 (24:09):
There's four Adams, those four second So.

Speaker 3 (24:11):
When you got to Michigan, how long was it before.

Speaker 2 (24:16):
You realized that it didn't fit? Yes, we had a
I shouldn't say we, They had a like alumni five
hundred next players came back. It was really it was
meant to be a good thing. And there were some
guys in there who like, talk to us like we're

(24:39):
sixth grade and I don't want this. I don't want
to see this and this, And now I will say
that there are some of the the gut some of
the best human beings I ever met were up there,
the guys, some of the guys that played for bow
because they went to the first practice and like, oh
my god, this is the same as what it was

(24:59):
when I played, you know what I mean? People were
coaching people hard and they liked it. But there were
some other people that and it wasn't so much the players,
it was the people outside that everybody thought they knew
what Michigan football was. Now the people in the will
fight critic row on row filled the plaza full.

Speaker 1 (25:22):
But the only guy.

Speaker 2 (25:23):
Really knows the man who fights the bull. So a
lot of people have opinions on them right right, that.

Speaker 1 (25:30):
Just didn't fit.

Speaker 3 (25:30):
So it was not a pleasurable experience.

Speaker 1 (25:33):
It was miserable for me. I was miserable because you
and you took it.

Speaker 2 (25:39):
It was miserable because I took a personal exactly Rodriguez said,
because whenever if he asked me an opinion on something,
I tried to getting the honest answers, you know, and
they doesn't always like my answers, and doesn't always they
always listens to me, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (25:55):
And that had to be hard because I think the
folks who are in coaching, you're doing it because you
have a like anybody in a professor, you have a
passion for it, and then you're someplace and you still
have a passion for it. ME think this is not
just I don't feel like it doesn't feel right.

Speaker 2 (26:14):
I think it was rich. Rodriguez does things at places
that have never been done before Glenville State. He won
the last four conference championships they won price six in
the history of the school. He's got four zero. When
the first time here, I don't remember ever going to

(26:34):
four straight bowl games. We went to six. Go to Arizona.
Never went the four straight bowl games he did the
first four years he was there. We fit and that's
the I believe that you fit in the community, you
fit at the university, you fit in the athletic department.

Speaker 1 (26:56):
We fit.

Speaker 3 (26:57):
Does Rich fit here?

Speaker 2 (26:58):
No question? He is here. I mean I say that
when I heath this is yeah, this is a glove fit. Yeah,
this is it.

Speaker 4 (27:07):
We're blue collar.

Speaker 2 (27:08):
That's who we are, at least I hope that's you know,
let's let's keep let's embrace it.

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since you guys been back. You guys loved Jacksonville State

(29:31):
loved it. Yeah, everybody loved it. Football was important.

Speaker 2 (29:34):
Okay, small town didn't have to go find go far
to find a player. I mean, Alabama's got a whole
bunch of them, and then they got the state to the
the to the west, Mississippi got football players. Georgia. I
mean there's football players, and football is important. I mean

(29:56):
they've they've always at all the levels, they've woned, all
the levels they've been at. Division two, played for national championships,
won national championship, one double A, played for national championship,
was in the playoffs every year. So it's always nice
to be somewhere where it's important and you can win

(30:17):
because winning's fun. Just in case, you know, it's a
T shirt and winning is fun fun.

Speaker 4 (30:26):
Confirmed.

Speaker 1 (30:27):
Yeah, last week I was driving over Friday to Martinsburg
and did a little thing football thing, And I'm gonna
make a statement. You guys can agree, just agree. If
rich has the success that we anticipate, and I do
think that he will, I think it becomes one of
the greatest redemption stories, if you want to limit it

(30:51):
to a bit in college sports. I think if he
comes back again and he has a level of success,
I'm not going to say eleven, eleven and eleven three
times in a row like he did last time. But
if West Virginia can become what Iowa State is now
and that level of consistent success. I think that'll be

(31:13):
one of the great redemption stories agreed because of this
and rich kind of fun. It makes a joke about it.
But dude, Michigan, Arizona, Louisiana, Monroe, Ole, miss Jack State
back here. He says, you know, I wandered through the
desert for seventeen years in order to get back.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
But he like he did.

Speaker 1 (31:34):
He paid his penance man to circle back through. It
was not the easy.

Speaker 2 (31:39):
No no, no no. I mean like when we went
to Monroe. He called me and I was, he was
out the year I was coaching. I was offensive coordinator
of high school Indiana and I was I was in
charge of study. My phone rings, walk right out at school.

(32:03):
Something something's about to go down.

Speaker 1 (32:07):
He goes to Louisiana.

Speaker 2 (32:08):
I said, I'm in. He goes, four words, lower your expectations.
I was in.

Speaker 1 (32:18):
I got go home.

Speaker 2 (32:18):
Tell my wife. That was three words.

Speaker 1 (32:20):
That's what we're.

Speaker 2 (32:21):
Moving though Louisiana. Now, I don't want to hear no
one ever say you ask about what was like living
in the weather that Louisiana Humidity's different. Now it's you
walked out, you walk outside and you on your shorts,
I mean like bull yonn.

Speaker 1 (32:38):
I mean it was like you walk out and it's like.

Speaker 2 (32:42):
I'll never I'm not catholic, but I've been through purgatory.
The third day of football practice at Louisiana Monroe was
so humid that my saw you would you would take
a step in your sugar. Oh my, everybody everybody were.

(33:03):
We had like thirty kids, like full body cramps after practice. Yeah,
it's a whole different. Yeah, so our players better never complain.

Speaker 1 (33:13):
Yeah no, no, no, yeah, they don't have beef bullion.
No no no.

Speaker 3 (33:19):
So so all all all due respect to Louisiana Monroe
with all due respect.

Speaker 2 (33:25):
Oh a great place though, great town was great, you
know in college town and home a Delta Airlines. Oh
really I'm full useless information too, but.

Speaker 1 (33:35):
Great crawfish right Oh yeah yeah I've had them there
really well.

Speaker 2 (33:40):
Yeah, in case you guys have it those.

Speaker 3 (33:44):
So Dusty all this a little bit on this circuitous route.
And you're with Rich almost the whole time. Did you
ever have discussions or thoughts or openly discussed ending up
back here? Did that come up?

Speaker 2 (33:57):
Oh, it was all the time, Like we never talked
about what would like to come back. But I mean
we never you talk about West Virginia and there's a
there's a love affair, you know, I mean, it's.

Speaker 3 (34:10):
Were the words ever said.

Speaker 1 (34:13):
Well, I'd like to go back. Yeah, no, me maybe him. No,
he's he is. He's a fun thing. He is singular focused.

Speaker 2 (34:21):
Like he'll tell you that he believes the best way
to get a job is to be really good at
the job you're at. He's always been that way. I
can remember when we were at Glenville and he said,
I have a chance to be the head coach at
Valdosta State. I'm like, Coach, I think you should go,
as we're taking me in with you, but I think
you should go because if we ever want to be

(34:42):
like a head coach at Marshall, you know, you got
to go probably to the Valdosta State something like that.
That's what get right over at our school.

Speaker 1 (34:51):
Yes, to forget that. Yeah, it's.

Speaker 2 (35:00):
He has to be the only Power five coach in
the country. Power four doesn't have an agent. He doesn't
have an agent right now. Nope.

Speaker 1 (35:08):
Yeah, to your point, he's incredibly he's incredible. He and
I remember when his first time here, like he can
when he locks in, it doesn't matter if this is
on fire, and this is on fire, like when he's
doing one thing, he's a one thing guy. And then
he'll get like when that's done, then he'll get back
to dealing with this. Right, But like when this is

(35:29):
this is, it doesn't matter, just like I'm just doing this.

Speaker 2 (35:31):
He's a practice. The next play is the most important
thing in his world at that moment. Yeah, and when
that play is over, it's the next play. So he yells.
He don't yell long because he don't have time. We're
gonna go to the next one. We're gonna move on.
And it's always and he It's amazing how many young
coaches will be they'll come from somewhere else and say, boy,

(35:53):
if i'm a I'm a better coach because I coach
with him.

Speaker 1 (35:57):
Yeah, it's because he's just so locked in.

Speaker 4 (35:59):
Where there's the difference since the Glenville days. What's different
about him?

Speaker 1 (36:04):
He can't run, so now it's the StairMaster. There's no different.
I mean he's locked in.

Speaker 2 (36:13):
I mean he here's the day to day meetings, no difference. No,
I think the day to day meetings will get a
little more philosophical, you know what I mean? Like this
morning's meeting. For a prime example is he went around
the room and pointed out, eight of us are going
to get blood work. Older guys. Hey, he's paying for it,

(36:38):
so so and so guess what, see if you can
get the hospital, come over. He's getting blood work. He's
getting blood work. I was like, coach, I got a
appointment thirty. You don't need a one because he knows
I'm on top of that stuff now. But because Friday
I had to go to see the cardiologist. But anyway,
so he's on top of it and.

Speaker 1 (37:00):
The self there. So so okay, you mentioned this serial.
Let's talk about those stories. You say he saved us.
You say that he saved your life, and it's not
just a throwaway line. Walk us through that.

Speaker 2 (37:11):
Here's what happened. Calvin McGee, God bless him. Calvin, And
you asked earlier my one of the closest you know.
Calvin was right there too. Calvin was really good at
like finishing his sentences in football terms, you know what
I mean, Like they knew they thought the same and

(37:32):
offensive football. But anyways, so Calvin dies suddenly.

Speaker 3 (37:37):
Do me a favorite. But does he just stay on
the office. Sorry, no, no, we want to make sure
we so.

Speaker 2 (37:41):
Unexpectedly he passes away and Rich was talking to Nick
Saban and h coach. Saban told him that about a
program he made all his staff members do it. Uh
go get executive physical and Birmingham because there's a lot
of times in coaching what happens is you don't I'll

(38:03):
go the doctor next year. Next year you switch jobs
and then I'll go to the doctor next year. Never
get a primary care physician, you know. So save and
started the executive health thing for his staff and it
saves Sarkesian's life. Stark sark went in for a check
up and they didn't lay him leave. I mean they
had art surgery. So Rich said, you're going to do

(38:26):
I said, I'm not doing that. He said, no, what
you're doing? I said, coach, you know how expen that
those are. He said, I'm footing the bill. I said,
save your money. My wife said cardiac nurse or that
was her specialty. Now she's a nursery work from home.
But anyways, and I'm like, I'm thinking I'll get anything
to let me leave, and he's thinking the same thing.

(38:48):
So he said, you do it, you're fired. Guess what
I might want to go get that done. So I go,
and I went in on Monday, and Wednesday they put
a heart stand in and Thursday I get home and
I'm taking my wife was sick and we're taking a
COVID test. I said, I ain't taking a COVID test.

(39:09):
So you're gonna be that guy. You're gonna be that guy.
I don't want to take the test and make the
whole team sick. You're want to bust to marble. Okay,
I'll take the And as the thing was turning pink,
I think it was pink. I don't remember if I
had COVID or pregnant, but I get it. My phone rings,
I pick it up and I said, this is so
and so your PSA levels are elevated. I'm like public

(39:30):
service announcement PSA. No, it meant prostating. So my profstate
levels were elevated. And come to find out, I'd go
through all the ams and stuff, and so I had
stage four profst day cancer. If I would have never
done that, if he would have never made me go
get a the executive physical, I probably wouldn't be sitting here.

(39:55):
Because it was three years ago. I went through chemo
metastasized seven different spots. So I'll have it the rest
of my life. But without him making me go and
get it done, I wouldn't be here probably.

Speaker 3 (40:15):
And that that's not what rich would have done twenty
years ago.

Speaker 1 (40:18):
I think he his heart would have done it, but
he wouldn't have thought like it.

Speaker 2 (40:22):
Because as we get older, when you go, boy, I
better get checked out and stuff like that, you.

Speaker 3 (40:26):
Know what I mean, Because when you're younger, you're gonna
live forever.

Speaker 2 (40:28):
Oh heck, yeah, I was going on. You know what
I mean. I used to say when I was in
my twenties and thirties, I'd like to lived about about fifty.

Speaker 3 (40:35):
Years old until you get to be fifty.

Speaker 1 (40:37):
And I was forty two, and I thought, back the truck.
You were in a reality show after after Michigan, After Michigan,
before you you followed back out there. Show had how
many episodes? I think they shot maybe a dozen. I

(40:58):
think they put on eight of them.

Speaker 2 (41:00):
Yeah, you know what it's I I every time every
year at this time I think of it.

Speaker 1 (41:04):
Why is that Stama Stamley here should have given week
so they call us in?

Speaker 2 (41:11):
You know what I mean? The people Discovery or to
take you off for a shark week. How long shark
week last? They come in and it's a show. At
that time, former Mountaineer strength coach Mike Barwiss had a
workout facility. Dan Moses, all time great mountaineer.

Speaker 1 (41:29):
Lineman, remyten Award winner, and you were all working together
at a facility in Michigan. And mich someone somewhere in
the production world says, this thing's kind of like a
lively American shoppers over on lift weights, lifting weights.

Speaker 2 (41:52):
What. Here's how it happened. There was a guy from
ann Arbor who played tennis at the University of Michigan,
and he came in to get personal trained with Dan
Moses and he would come in every Saturday morning and
Moses just kicked the crap out of him. Well, it
comes in one Saturday, He's got this tall guy with

(42:12):
him and I don't think nothing of it. And I mean,
this gym is like we played in music loud and
the stuff you would hear and we would be yelling
across the gym and after work, I said, helped to
see you again. He goes, you'll see me, and he
happened to be the president of Funnier Die the production
company owned by Will Ferrell. Okay, okay, so they do

(42:37):
like it was Billy on the Street or something, and
they had all those between two ferns and right right right,
because you'll see me again from there.

Speaker 1 (42:48):
He's like, this is a reality show. So they came said,
we'd like to do a reality show about you guys
because this is wild. Yeah, you guys are not normal.
Did you have represent Oh yeah, representation. If he had representation.

Speaker 2 (43:01):
Oh yeah, we were going to They had as convinced
that we were going to be the next coming of
Duck Dynasty with oh yeah, we're gonna We're gonna have bobbleheads.
And I said I don't want no bibblehead, Like you'll
make a lot of it. I said, I want a
bobble gut.

Speaker 4 (43:17):
So Cia so me.

Speaker 1 (43:20):
Tom Cruise, you know all the really good.

Speaker 2 (43:24):
That they were my he was c A was my
agent for agent C How scripted our reality shows more
than you think? Yeah, I figure right there. There'd be
certain things I wouldn't say because they would say, well,
we need you to say this. I'm like, well no
I can't do that. Why well, I got a there's
some guys out there. They know what they think. I

(43:44):
know some football and if I say that guy can
play and say Dusty's lost his mind.

Speaker 1 (43:48):
Yeah, so I didn't.

Speaker 4 (43:50):
Did you like the experience?

Speaker 2 (43:52):
Oh it was great.

Speaker 1 (43:53):
Did you make any money?

Speaker 3 (43:55):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (43:55):
I think my contract was fifteen hundred an episode.

Speaker 1 (43:59):
That's it.

Speaker 2 (44:00):
Yeah, but I be all was going to be big,
going to be We're gonna make it real.

Speaker 1 (44:05):
I was only making like thirty Yeah, when you worked
that desk, you're off mic again. I'm sorry. I apologize.
Just tell you let's head set with the microphone.

Speaker 4 (44:15):
You know what I mean, just got my headless.

Speaker 2 (44:18):
That's sorry. Horseman six years from now when he got you,
bring me back, you'll be good.

Speaker 1 (44:22):
Yeah. So the show just kind of dissipates, and but
you had fun doing it.

Speaker 2 (44:27):
Great, a great time, well exposure. Several years later, we're
at Arizona and they start showing him again. They ran
we random and I get a phone call from a
guy from Discovery and he goes the show there's no
show without you. Okay, what would you need? I said,
I need half a million up front. I've never heard

(44:48):
back from too high to start. Yeah, Well I wasn't
gonna come down either, it's been half a million up front,
take it or late. Yep.

Speaker 1 (45:00):
Yeah, a little bit of a bounce from that fifteen hundred,
just a little bit. You're a you are a football football,
football guy. I mean you you sniff it. We're getting
ready to start the season, but like it's three sixty
five for you. He's a livid Yeah, you're a livid guy.
Who is the who do you take great pride in

(45:22):
seeing on tape or calling out early that this guy
is going to be a stud that became a stud.

Speaker 2 (45:33):
The kid's name was Chris Dillman, played forest at Indiana,
played well, I don't know, probably eight years.

Speaker 1 (45:41):
Yeah. It was a tight end linebacker in high school.

Speaker 2 (45:46):
So we recruit him at Indiana and I'm like one
of my jobs in Indiana, I was like the first
analyst in college football. I wrote all the cards for
the defense. My title special assistance to the head coach whatever.
But they sent me away to the Washington Redskins to
learn from Charlie Casserly. Yeah yeah, valuate, Yes, yeah, I

(46:09):
come back. So it made me evaluate to play every
bond a team. Cam camera had me evaluate every bond
a team, and I said, we're screwing Chris Deal. He
was playing tight end at the time. I said, he's
it all pro guard. How about that?

Speaker 1 (46:22):
I got lucky.

Speaker 2 (46:23):
Okay, so that one and then but I've missed on
some too. Now, Oh yeah, I said, I don't know
if that Moses guy is good enough to play. He's
one of my best friends. Now I understand, Yeah, Dan Moses,
I'm like, he's a little bit of a little undersize
I was wrong.

Speaker 1 (46:37):
Walk me through this because Mountaineer Nation oftentimes talks about
this Pat White getting on the field as late as
he did in that Louisville game. Now, he had been
playing some some but had not clearly separated himself from
Adam Banaik. Looking back on that, did that play true

(47:01):
to form? Or do you guys maybe wish you would
have pushed his ticket and just said this is the
guy earlier.

Speaker 2 (47:09):
I don't think so. I but coach don't talk about
things like that. I mean, he doesn't look.

Speaker 1 (47:15):
Yeah, I know, but that's what we kind of did, right.

Speaker 2 (47:17):
Yeah. The easy thing to say is, oh, we screwed
that one up. But I don't think think about what
bet and Erik was doing. He completed seventy percent of
his balls. It wasn't like, go, we're five and one
at the time, right, you know, No, obviously Pat White
was the right choice, right. But I forget who think,

(47:39):
I don't. I don't know if anyone said I don't.
I've never heard anyone in the ability and say, boy,
we should have played him earlier.

Speaker 1 (47:44):
Yeah. I forget who said it, but it was a
player who said players oftentimes know before the coaches who
the guy really is. No question.

Speaker 2 (47:53):
Here's here I give you a prime example of that word.
At Arizona and we're the first time we'd ever done it.
We go split up the team for the spring game.
We had a bunch of guys on the team. We
had depth, and Dusty, you're the head coach of one team,
and Matt Dudeck was the head coach of their team.

Speaker 1 (48:14):
So we're getting there.

Speaker 2 (48:15):
And yeah, so I went to the players, tell me
the guys that everybody said Khali Tate should be the quarterback.
M I'm like, okay. So I win the coin toss
for the first pick, and then Matt Dudek, who was
a recruiting guy, I said, I said, well, who are

(48:37):
you going to take? He said, I take the quarterback?
I said, well, if you promise to take the quarterback.

Speaker 1 (48:44):
I will then get the next three picks.

Speaker 4 (48:48):
Yeah, he take what you wanted to play.

Speaker 2 (48:50):
So I got the best. I got the best four
players and beat the We beat the breaks off of
he didn't take Tate, So you got Tate and four
other three. I got to the next three picks. If
you got if you took a guy, if you took
a running back, then I got the backup you.

Speaker 1 (49:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (49:05):
Yeah, Well I knew the running back wasn't going to
play because he broke his leg the year before and
we're coach Rod Wing going to put him into his
friend game. So I took I took the quarterback. I
got the quarterback I wanted, and I took the center.
Someone gonna snap the ball. That guy, he gonna start
the stuff.

Speaker 3 (49:22):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (49:23):
Then we had a freshman, true freshman middle linebacker, only
been there six weeks, by the name of Tony Fields.

Speaker 1 (49:30):
You guys, that was a great addition, Like you took
a freshman.

Speaker 2 (49:36):
Yeah, I went to the linebacker. Coaches it was your
best fight.

Speaker 3 (49:41):
So so do you know do you know from drills
from or do you have to get to scrimmage? Do
you have to get to games. I mean, when does
it become apparent that a guy is a guy or
does it vary?

Speaker 2 (49:55):
Varies? I think sometimes in the world we live in,
it's hard because you don't get to go live a lot,
you know what I mean, you can't afford to go
live a lot. And then some guys are lill tait
are better live and we realize, oh boy, because in
practice you run and oh he was down. In real

(50:17):
life he wasn't down, you know, And that's.

Speaker 1 (50:20):
And that's what you're gonna do that this coming in
the next couple of weeks, you're gonna go. You're going
we're going to have to I think what we're going
to talk about. I mean, yeah, that's what he told me.
He said a couple of times, go live to see
who's going to stat who's gonna say I'm the guy.

Speaker 2 (50:32):
Yeah, you have to because that's different. I mean, it's
not you recruit and they got all these high school
kid teams play seven on seven. It's not the same.

Speaker 4 (50:41):
Well, and more than ever, just from a number standpoint,
there's just so many new guys.

Speaker 1 (50:45):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (50:45):
Maybe in the cud of years you don't have to
do that as much. But this year you got to
see which.

Speaker 2 (50:48):
God, Yep, we gotta figure out ways to find out
and we can't can't have can't be any excuse for
why a guy standing next to you on the sideline, Well, no,
he can't learn it. No, figure it out, dude, do
a good job coaching them, so the the best best
twenty two are on the field.

Speaker 1 (51:09):
I think that's one of the great bad excuses that
coaches have used through the years. I mean, you've heard it,
We've heard it. Dumbest guy I've ever coached in my life.
I mean, dumbest guy. Right, Well, guess what, man, not
everyone's not everyone's going to be a Rhodes scholar. That
is your job. If he's the dumbest person, then figure

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out which way he learns. Everybody's by touching, is it
by seeing? Is it by repid? What is it? That's
your job to make him.

Speaker 2 (51:38):
And I think that's one of the things we've changed.
I shouldn't say we, I'm not rich. Rodriguez has changed
over the years. Is meeting time walk through time. We
do a lot of everything where we used to like
a lot of meetings or now we do a lot
of meetings, walk through so that everybody learns different, so

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you have a chance to reach all the guys.

Speaker 1 (52:05):
Yeah, OTAs in your opinion, how are how valuable nowadays? Critical?

Speaker 2 (52:12):
And now I you know there's talk of the NC
is going to go.

Speaker 1 (52:14):
To them next year. You go get twenty days.

Speaker 2 (52:18):
Spread out over whenever you want to do it, which
is yeah, really good.

Speaker 1 (52:23):
You gotta do it because this is becoming a pro model,
that's right.

Speaker 2 (52:26):
Yeah, especially with the two transfer portals. You know, now,
if there's one portal, yeah, it's different, but with the
two portals.

Speaker 1 (52:36):
There isn't an official preseason Big twelve poll this year,
but if West Virginia were, if there was, the consensus
seems to be is to be right at the bottom.
Fourteen fifty fourteen, fifteen sixteen is what they're saying. I
know what you guys think internally, you're going like bull.

Speaker 2 (53:00):
You wouldn't we be say it again, why wouldn't we
be voted to the bottom. Yeah, you've got seventy new guys. Yeah,
and then when the two guys basically playing time from
last year.

Speaker 1 (53:10):
I mean, right, so what do you what do you
see and know of this roster that makes you feel
better than fourteen, fifteen or sixty.

Speaker 2 (53:21):
That's a tough one answer because I don't know what
their rosters have. You know, you don't know did Texas
Tech who bought all those players? And did they buy
the right ones? Are they going to jail? Are they
not going to jail? Are they gonna jail?

Speaker 1 (53:38):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, So you don't know. What do you
know about this team at West Virginia, Like, coach, what
are the givens that you think they're.

Speaker 2 (53:45):
Going to get coached hard? They're going to expect it
to be expected to play hard and on both sides
of the ball, you know, I mean it's not like
Zach Ally's the Oh he's just a smart guy. No,
he's a smart guy who coaches hard. Jeff Castill coaches
people hard.

Speaker 1 (54:01):
So we're gonna work with it.

Speaker 2 (54:04):
I'll be shocked if we have a team that doesn't
give great effort because we'll demand great effort. Coach will
demand great effort, and it starts at the top.

Speaker 1 (54:14):
Talk to someone last week. They said, what will happen
is that as the season goes on and you're teaching
to these guys of how hard they have to play,
will win games late because other teams will dissipate, and
you guys will just keep climbing in the harder to
play category. When the leaves come off the trees and

(54:35):
it's starting to get cold and people are just kind
of wivel wobbling as to what kind of season we're having,
that's when you guys will.

Speaker 2 (54:42):
That's that's been our' that's been coaches track record is
we're not the same team in the week one and
we are week ten to eleven. Ever, it's always been.

Speaker 3 (54:54):
This, do you believe that the starting quarterback situation will
be clear, will be evident heading into the first game,
or will it be we have to make a choice,
and but there'll be a hook if he doesn't perform.
I mean, what do you think that what do you
think that will be?

Speaker 2 (55:17):
That's the first time, the first time I've ever thought
of that. I you hope it's like, oh, boys, no brainer.

Speaker 1 (55:26):
Who knows?

Speaker 4 (55:27):
I mean, more than one could play about Derek and Pat.
I mean, there's there's nothing says that you won't see
two guys exactly.

Speaker 3 (55:35):
Yeah, and Rich said on this program he wanted three
or four guys, right right.

Speaker 1 (55:40):
Said he wanted seven. Actually, so you want three or
four guys.

Speaker 4 (55:43):
But he says he feels comfortable he has multiple guys
you can win with, is how he said it.

Speaker 1 (55:47):
Yeah, he thinks he's got five guys in the room
right that he feels good about that you could.

Speaker 4 (55:52):
Win games with you.

Speaker 1 (55:53):
Yeah. See the thing about him I think is like
a lot of people will put a lot into this
quarterback quote unquote it's most important. Yeah, I mean everyone
does that. But like I think Rich is the guy
that cares the least as to who it is. I
think like Rich, it doesn't matter like which of the

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five it is. To him, he knows what it needs
to be and what he wants. It could be a
three headed Martian. He go like three headed Martian making place.
But the three head he does, what does he do specially? Yeah,
he doesn't. He doesn't care who it is. Just like,
show me right now in the next five weeks, go
and show me. I knew that's the guy that's gonna play.
I don't care who it is.

Speaker 2 (56:32):
Shouldn't that be in life? Yes, So if you're not
the best guy at that seat right.

Speaker 1 (56:35):
There, yeah, that's what So I don't I don't I
think the days of like this young man paid his
dues or this young man's a legacy or this young
man all that stuff that used to play in it.
I think that's all gone now.

Speaker 2 (56:49):
It's like, yeah, well, well that's the problem with societies.
We're all I'm entitled. No, you're entitled to. I'm entitled
to better show up the work tomorrow. The dude, you're
paying me, So guess what we're paying these kids, and
the better show up tomorrow and work. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (57:07):
The other thing is you don't have to. You don't
have any luxury of time.

Speaker 1 (57:12):
None.

Speaker 2 (57:13):
No.

Speaker 1 (57:15):
What you have finally is a schedule to start the
season with that plays out. Well, you have Robert Morris
and I'm not saying, o how you is going to
be a walk will be. It's a challenge.

Speaker 2 (57:32):
People earlier on you said, hey, Iowa State, you're going
to be like Iowa the Iowa State lost at I know.

Speaker 1 (57:42):
But what I'm saying is, it's not a power for
to open the season on the road. It's not Past State,
it's not Maryland, it's not a pit to start the thing.
At least we can get our feet for eight quarters
of just kind of and then.

Speaker 2 (57:54):
There's a reason that Indiana won ten games last year,
they bought out a Louisville game, and all of a sudden,
you get some momentum and you start feeling good about yourself.
On what Indiana do now? They bought out of the
Virginia game to play somebody else. And here's where here's

(58:18):
where I learned that. I was in Indiana for four years.
We played Minnesota four times. If you'd have said in
the mid nineties, whose football program was better, everyone would
say Minnesota. We played them four times, We won twice,
Day won twice. Our non conference was Kentucky North Carolina

(58:38):
with when they were just loaded with Dre Bly and
Jeff Saturday, those guys. So there's two Well Kentucky was
cheating at that time they went on probation.

Speaker 1 (58:48):
I thought they were cheating.

Speaker 2 (58:49):
Yeah yeah, who in Minnesota play well? They played Northern Illinois.
Yeah yeah, absolutely Minnesota. Stay screaming Eagles with Dawburn Hayden,
Foxy Fox.

Speaker 1 (59:05):
That's that's That's what I mean. I'm not telling anything
you don't know. That's what's hurt this program. We got overscheduled,
knew when it was happening when they announced that second
Power five fire four teams like that's silly. Least it's
started to get some normalcy back.

Speaker 4 (59:19):
Yeah, have you given any thought to what you will
be thinking before you take the field against Robert Morris
when you're back on the actual field.

Speaker 2 (59:28):
Actually, I won't sleep the every every opener every year.
Never sleep, you know, the whole night. You don't go
down the whole week. Also got some information to death.
Was in his office last week. You never know what
you never know what you're going to see.

Speaker 4 (59:42):
You can't take a moment and look around.

Speaker 2 (59:44):
Oh heck, yeah, I take a moment every now and
I walk out there, walk by, and.

Speaker 1 (59:48):
We're home and so got some weird information on him
last week. Excuse me, Dusty? What was I was in
his office?

Speaker 3 (59:55):
Dusty's office?

Speaker 1 (59:56):
Okay, first time he was here. He was on the sideline.

Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:00:01):
Now I'm getting reconnaissance, Like you go a bunch of
different places while the game is happening, including your office.
Excuse me, what is going on?

Speaker 2 (01:00:11):
Nuts now? The Donnie Young my role, Donnie I used
to say, boy, football being great, this would be the
best job in the world. We'd have to play the game,
just hang out together and work, just getting better and
don't have to go through that drama winning and losing.

Speaker 1 (01:00:33):
I yeah, so you go, you just you get so
nervous out.

Speaker 2 (01:00:38):
I know the first the first game will be like that.
But the just I don't have no control or anything.
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:00:47):
Now, you used to try to help rich You used
to try to help on the side.

Speaker 2 (01:00:50):
You know times have been told shut up getting back.
I was told, well two years ago.

Speaker 1 (01:00:57):
Tell Dusty shut.

Speaker 2 (01:00:59):
I wouldn't on the head.

Speaker 1 (01:01:00):
You probably stuck another word in there, but you probably
stuck a different word. And besides the shutting the up.
But anyway, Yeah, he.

Speaker 4 (01:01:05):
Could hear you in the background of the coaches Mike and.

Speaker 2 (01:01:07):
He's yelling, tell him he shut. Run it again, running again,
Rob Smith tapping right on the back, running again. We
ever throw it? Run it again? Tell Dusty shut.

Speaker 1 (01:01:21):
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Speaker 2 (01:01:34):
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Speaker 4 (01:01:34):
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Speaker 2 (01:01:41):
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Speaker 4 (01:01:58):
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Speaker 2 (01:02:54):
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Speaker 4 (01:03:15):
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Speaker 2 (01:04:01):
Let me tell you, I am not a biscuit sandwich guy,
uh huh, but a biscuit with some gravy on it. Yes, yeah,
they get that platter thing.

Speaker 1 (01:04:10):
They got the plat right right, right right. Then You've
been in a lot of stops, but you've bet probably
missing those seventy over seventy tutors, mostly based here one
in Florida. They are doing franchises as we speak. So
if you would like to get involved in the franchise
world of Tudor's Biscuit, get the Mountaineer. The Mountaineer, Yeah,
the other one that that starts with an h. I
don't get that one, but the Mountaineer. They're coming out

(01:04:33):
with three new barbecue sauces that they're going to supposedly
send up here and we're going to taste and offer
our opinions on. Because it's a biscuit season, football season,
like people come up the road, come to the game,
they'll stop and get biscuits. Who was it? They just
said they could eat three. We had someone in here,
that's Eddie.

Speaker 4 (01:04:51):
Steve Savans claimed he could savings.

Speaker 1 (01:04:53):
He could do three.

Speaker 4 (01:04:54):
Yeah, Savans gave you three, Eddie, I believe two eighty five.

Speaker 2 (01:04:58):
I'm going there and I'm getting the sup breakfast platter.
Sure biscuits with the gravy. Two eggs. How I like him? No,
I normally get the scrambled, but right over.

Speaker 4 (01:05:11):
Each sometimes whatever way you need to feel a runny
egg into the business and the gravy it makes it nice.

Speaker 2 (01:05:16):
I like to dip my toast in the yes.

Speaker 1 (01:05:19):
Correct. One of the things that we do now before
home games since you've been gone, is three guys. Well
you hear you're a regular watcher. So we have our
food court before home games next to Daniels and we
have Revkevs Barbecue, which I'm gonna get for you, and
it's ren Baker said this about n was saying he
was bemoaning that there's not a lot of great barbecue.

(01:05:40):
Since he came here. Where do I find great barbecue?
I said, I got great barbecue for a guy named
Kevin Kane. He's where's his business? So he doesn't have one.
He's a he's a preacher in Westover, king to MEMC.
But he has a forty foot barbecue trailer and they
do it as a nonprofit and they supply all the
money they make they give the kids for lunch programs
the weekends. They put it in their lunch box. So

(01:06:01):
he makes so I get him brit I get brisket
for him and Rev and Wren says to Kevin while
he's eating it, he says, Rev, he said, I think
this brisket can bring more people to the Lord than
an altar call. That's wow. Yeah, it's it's that good.
It's that good. So he's there now one of the
other new additions are adding to the food court this year,

(01:06:24):
and this is done. Is this confirmed? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:06:26):
Are you just saying this?

Speaker 2 (01:06:27):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:06:27):
No, no, no, no no, this is good.

Speaker 2 (01:06:28):
No.

Speaker 3 (01:06:29):
I got actual proof that'd be new, something new.

Speaker 2 (01:06:32):
I'm walking out with that loaf of bread.

Speaker 1 (01:06:33):
This is this is sour dough. There's a young lady.
There's a young lady by the name of Kayla who
has a micro bakery in her home here in west Over,
and so she makes this listen. Her name of her
company is Grateful bread, which I freaking love the name.
She gave me a loaf of this sour dough which

(01:06:54):
I will give to you. And you know I'm a
food snob, right and something sucks, I say it sucks,
and if it's not any good, I will say and
if it's really good, I will go over the top.
This sour dough bread was absolutely spectacular. Haven't had it
better anywhere, really, and I love it. I'm gonna give

(01:07:14):
it to you now what you have in front of you,
So look.

Speaker 2 (01:07:18):
You can order bread and.

Speaker 1 (01:07:21):
That's a sour dough by the way, that's that's sour
dough chocolate chip. So listen, you can pre order these
this year at the food court. You put the order
in to Grateful Bread and you can pick it up
at the food court on weekends. And what you guys
are eating right.

Speaker 4 (01:07:35):
Now though, ye'll be taking orders now, Kaylin knows you
just said that on there.

Speaker 1 (01:07:40):
Just go to the Grateful Bread website.

Speaker 4 (01:07:42):
She sometimes he says things in front of the.

Speaker 1 (01:07:47):
Now, let me give you one other thing. She also
does this unbelievable baker. There's a scone in there starting
this scone stars where changed scone? We have scones yeah,
try that one. So it looks that's available starting, that's
available this week at Mountaineer Roasting. She's going to sell
those out of Mountaineer Roasting this week. Now. I want

(01:08:08):
to know. I want to know. Talk to me.

Speaker 4 (01:08:10):
I'm sorry I was eating.

Speaker 1 (01:08:11):
Talk to me.

Speaker 4 (01:08:11):
Is gonna be well Mountaineer Roasting starting this little game
day grind coffee.

Speaker 1 (01:08:15):
Thank you? Delicious, delicious right hot and hoppy is chocolate? Yeah, exactly, exactly.
This is a big time I want to ask you, Kayla. Okay,
she's fan. It might be the nice not you know
how Greg Hunter. We always say Greg Hunter's nicest guy
in the world. She's I've met with her. She's fantastic.

Speaker 2 (01:08:33):
Do you but how do you get it again? How
do you access it?

Speaker 1 (01:08:37):
Go to the Grateful Bread? I mean hoppy for a
guy that just ran four hundred or road four hundred
and seven miles.

Speaker 2 (01:08:44):
I don't know why. That's great.

Speaker 1 (01:08:46):
Full good bread.

Speaker 2 (01:08:51):
Comes up.

Speaker 1 (01:08:51):
It's on Facebook, shop online. We love sourdough, the original
Grateful Bread. She got a beautiful website.

Speaker 4 (01:08:58):
Say it one more time.

Speaker 1 (01:09:00):
What's the company Grateful Bread?

Speaker 4 (01:09:03):
Kayla?

Speaker 1 (01:09:04):
You know there's a couple of them out there. Wait,
a second.

Speaker 2 (01:09:07):
So go on.

Speaker 1 (01:09:09):
When you go there, there's one in California. Go to
the Grateful Bread Facebook page. Boom, there you go. Now
you're in. Go to the Grateful Bread Facebook page.

Speaker 2 (01:09:16):
You can do it there and you order there.

Speaker 3 (01:09:19):
But then how do you pick it up?

Speaker 2 (01:09:21):
How do you get it?

Speaker 1 (01:09:22):
The bread you'll be able to pick up at her
kiosk at the food court.

Speaker 3 (01:09:26):
I mean, what if you want it now?

Speaker 1 (01:09:29):
She sells it locally at various food She sells it
at Mail's Produce over there on pier Pot Road. Mail
the remember Mail used to be at it. She came
and did our She's got fruit stands around Morgantown. She's
got one on peer Pot Road, not far from you are.
She'll sell her right down there, duncan. The peer Pot Road, though,

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is kind of the original, and you can go there
and she sells her bread Dusty before I let you go, Yes, sir,
you actually had answers there for you. I'm stunned. You
guys try.

Speaker 4 (01:10:00):
You tried to get him.

Speaker 1 (01:10:01):
He had answers. Don't play with me, Duster. Yeah, that's good.
I asked Rich what's his secret sauce? He says, it's
the tempo now that's kind of a but he was
being serious. I said, how do you He goes, it's conditioning. Yes,
I said, is that just extra running? He goes, No, no, no, no,

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it's practice. That's the only way by going super fast
in practice. Here's what's going to happen. Has that changed?
Go ahead?

Speaker 2 (01:10:28):
No, here's what's going to happen in practice tomorrow morning.
First one, there's gonna be a time and a practice.
He's gonna yell at the string staff, we're out of shape.

Speaker 4 (01:10:39):
You already know it's coming.

Speaker 2 (01:10:41):
Yeah, it's thirty years now. And he won't say it
that nice.

Speaker 1 (01:10:46):
No, no, oh he might.

Speaker 2 (01:10:48):
He's we're kinder Jim when we used to be. And
he's gonna we're gonna rap.

Speaker 1 (01:10:58):
We're gonna go faster maybe than we were went before.
Really why.

Speaker 2 (01:11:05):
Not?

Speaker 1 (01:11:06):
Why? How you know what I mean? Why do you
think you need to go faster than ever before?

Speaker 2 (01:11:11):
Just works?

Speaker 1 (01:11:12):
You're you're becoming more, you're becoming more into the school.
That that is the secret is the faster is the
difference maker?

Speaker 3 (01:11:21):
Yep, Okay, however, howsomever however.

Speaker 2 (01:11:27):
But we get way ahead or yeah, he does a
great job of that.

Speaker 3 (01:11:31):
But almost every team maybe, except for all teams have
a way of going fast. Now maybe not the whole game,
but they can go fast depending on you know, down distance,
score things like that. And then because of that, defenses
have adjusted to be able to defend fast. So is

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it the advantage that it was the first time Rich
was here when not as many people were going fast?

Speaker 2 (01:11:59):
See? I still think it's an advantage because if you
if you some people date it.

Speaker 1 (01:12:06):
We're married to it, we live it.

Speaker 2 (01:12:09):
So you can say, well, all the teams who don't
go fast on offense, you can you can practice it.
But to practice the intensity of a practice still isn't
the intensity of a game.

Speaker 1 (01:12:23):
In practice, you run.

Speaker 2 (01:12:25):
Thirty to forty plays and the game will run eighty
to one hundred. So it's the last thirty or forty
that make a difference where we make conditioning a factor.
So I think, I think, I still think it's huge,
huge advantage.

Speaker 3 (01:12:42):
Do you have any do you have defensive coaches? I
think we asked this a defensive coach. Do you have
defensive coaches worried that you're going fast and you have
a possession that's three and out and uses forty five seconds?

Speaker 2 (01:12:52):
I think in our minds that sometimes they complain. But
I think the people who don't go fast use as
an excuse, Well, I don't want to put that pressure
on my defense.

Speaker 1 (01:13:06):
Zach ally doesn't seem tomore.

Speaker 2 (01:13:08):
I've never heard Zach say, well, boy, I wish they'd
slow down or okay.

Speaker 4 (01:13:14):
So that description right there is similar to basketball full
court pressing for an entire game, the old press Virginia,
where some of the effect isn't just immediate, it's the
cumulative effect that steps in. You think that's a that's
a big advantage. Cumulative it makes it makes it.

Speaker 2 (01:13:30):
Mentally when you get fatigue, then all of a sudden, mentally,
I can't you feel like you can't catch up.

Speaker 1 (01:13:41):
So I think it's.

Speaker 2 (01:13:41):
Huge, part huge, huge, the mental just mentally wearing someone's down.

Speaker 3 (01:13:48):
Have you all done the analytics that when you go
fast for that long that you increase the number of mistakes?

Speaker 2 (01:13:54):
No, we have not.

Speaker 3 (01:13:56):
Okay, you haven't done the analytics, or you don't make
more mistakes?

Speaker 1 (01:13:58):
No, well, no, we haven't done the analytics. All right,
I mean we don't. You're talking about you're talking about
mister Simons, I asked, I asked Rich about that.

Speaker 2 (01:14:08):
Our mister Sigmons, go down when we go like one
word place when he's talking about opposing defense ass as
you go during But you don't always know because I
don't know what they're calling, you know. I mean, that's
that's the worst thing. I like this the PFF, the
Pro Football Focus, and I have to give you a score.

Speaker 1 (01:14:24):
Well, football coach is great in you, but does he
really know what you're calling? And how does he know
that was the corner who.

Speaker 2 (01:14:32):
Didn't screw up in instead of the safety?

Speaker 1 (01:14:34):
Yeah? Did that player do that responsibility? Based on that package?

Speaker 3 (01:14:36):
He dusty on that back to going fast? Now let
you guys jump back in there. So on going fast
and now the coach and rich calls, the players can
talk to record to the quarterback. So how how difficult
is it for whoever that quarterback or quarterbacks are that
they got it? You're going fast and you're getting to
play fast, I mean, and you got to and then

(01:14:57):
when the ball is snapped, you got to think about
how many different things? So what is the what level
do you have to have? What level of expertise and
skill and do you have to have at that level
to be a successful quarterback in a rich Rudvviguez system.

Speaker 2 (01:15:15):
You gotta be able to process information quickly, all right.
Coach always says, you don't want a guy has to
take the act untimed.

Speaker 1 (01:15:24):
Okay, okay, okay, he needs a guy.

Speaker 2 (01:15:26):
And you'd be surprised if once you live it, and
once you do it over and over and over, it
becomes just who you are. Okay, I mean it's uh,
there's more time you hand the ball off and he
gets tackled on the out of bounds line. Okay, that

(01:15:47):
ball still has to travel seventeen and two thirds to
get back into the into the near hash. We're all
coaches calling that play, and Red's gonna be talking to
the quarterback. So it's not like.

Speaker 1 (01:16:01):
Soon as that plays down, soon as that guy gets.

Speaker 2 (01:16:04):
Tackled, you snap at the next play. Now, we'd like
it to be like that. So that would be Rich's goal,
But there's still some it's not as bad as you
if you live it, it's not nearly as bad as
you think.

Speaker 4 (01:16:16):
What's rich the offensive coordinator's biggest advantage? What's he do
better than anybody else?

Speaker 2 (01:16:22):
As he knows his stuff, he knows and then you
know the answers. You have the answers to what doesn't work.

Speaker 1 (01:16:30):
He's seen every you've seen, I mean, like what what
what can't we.

Speaker 2 (01:16:36):
I mean you do. It's like Mike Leach that he
had the answers to for his stuff. You know, when
you have the answers, you know, I mean, they can
only put so many things on the test.

Speaker 4 (01:16:48):
You know what they're going to try if.

Speaker 2 (01:16:50):
They do change it. I've seen that before. He can
go back to the roll decks in his head and say, oh,
that was Oh that was twenty twelve, Colorado did.

Speaker 1 (01:17:00):
That, right, So exactly, that's the intellectual property. That's the
difference maker, because as a young coach, he hasn't seen, like,
you know, someone schemes something like say John Haycock, your
boy over at Iowa State, their defensive coordinator. Right, he'll
always come up a little something or he'll change his
game plan to start the second half. Well, like Rich
has been in it long enough now where he goes like, Okay,

(01:17:23):
I got that, here's the answer. But if you're a
young guy calling and you haven't seen, and all of
a sudden you get you paralysize analysis, and you go.

Speaker 2 (01:17:32):
Ah, I'm screwed. Yeah, that's the difference you have no answers.
You got to have a and we do. Coach does
a great job. He'll have an answer sheet, and we
we have an answer sheet for offense, defense, special teams,
and for each thing of special teams. What if we
see this too, returners back on punt that we don't
see it all year, and all of a sudden were
going to see it because maybe we're a roll punt team. Boom,

(01:17:56):
We have the answers. Do this if the same thing
on the offense, I mean on the defensive staff and
Zach Ally's bright, bright guy, and so oh shoot, oh
they're gonna run power this week. Okay, what's our answers
if they start doing different things?

Speaker 4 (01:18:19):
Because that's the other part with speed, The offensive coordinator
in this case has to go fast too. It's not
just the players have to go fast. The offensive coordinator
is having to process so quickly, and it's his stuff
that he knows intimately that allows it.

Speaker 2 (01:18:31):
Is harder in my opinion, it is harder on the
coach and is the player. Now, it's harder on the
player physically because we don't we don't want a substitute
in the middle of a drive, you know, I mean
we're trying to get back and they because.

Speaker 1 (01:18:45):
If you substitute, then they get a substitute. We don't
want to stand over the ball. That's why.

Speaker 2 (01:18:49):
The one thing that we've really changed is we've used
the tight ends and in a lot of different Oh
we go spread sets and you'll see two two tight
ends out there. So we don't change personnel.

Speaker 3 (01:19:04):
Are you are you?

Speaker 1 (01:19:06):
You don't change personnel.

Speaker 3 (01:19:07):
But when you're going fast, so you're runna play and
you quickly line up, then you're gonna run that play regardless,
or you're gonna look and see if the defense has
done something and then pause and change.

Speaker 2 (01:19:19):
You don't change. No, No, there might be like, okay,
the quarterback will change certain of the certain defenses. Like okay,
oh boy, this is used to be the old days.
Everybody will what you do gainst bear defense? Run speed
option week. It's great, it's a good call against the
bear defense. Other than that, no, everything's built in. Oh shoot,

(01:19:43):
we want to run. We don't run at the three
technique or three technique or yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:19:49):
Is there a awareness by the officials.

Speaker 2 (01:19:52):
Or any worst. They're the worst of them. Old fat
guys would be like me out there, they're trying to
catch their breath and yeah they're I.

Speaker 3 (01:19:59):
Mean they're standing over the ball. I mean, but is
there an awareness or no, go to the officials like
we go fast, we need to get off.

Speaker 2 (01:20:05):
We're going to talk to them throughout the summer, but
come into it, do our camp and where they We're
gonna go faster in practice and the less go in
the game. You know, because in practice we don't have referees,
so we're we're spotting the ball. And sometimes the referees
come in for a practice and they don't have to

(01:20:25):
spot the ball. Our managers do it. Mm hmm, yeah,
that's key. Yes, we would tell them we want to
go fast.

Speaker 1 (01:20:35):
Yeah, because you don't want the referees at every every game.

Speaker 2 (01:20:37):
You watch at the end of the into the end
of the half, they pick it up, they spot it faster,
they know they know. Guess what we want to go.
We want to play like that you're trying.

Speaker 1 (01:20:46):
It's the last ten seconds of the half, the whole game.

Speaker 2 (01:20:49):
Yeah, exactly, just pretend like every every boy.

Speaker 1 (01:20:53):
You brought several players over with you from Jacksonville State,
will Fred Perry be the most no to bull contribute
right off the bat.

Speaker 2 (01:21:03):
That's not fair. You're gonna like Fred face. The fans
will like Fred. Yeah, people West Virginia will like Fred
because he hit you in the face. He might take
out Jed Drenning forty years old, goes on the sideline.
But yeah, Fred's Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:21:23):
Who else we gonna like anyone in particular football team?
I mean, anyone else in particular that you think might
be being sleeped on at all?

Speaker 2 (01:21:34):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:21:34):
Not really, Okay, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:21:36):
I don't. I used to be like, here's to buy
all the magazines and the Yeah, what they saying about
our team doesn't matter anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:21:43):
That business has changed. Magazines they make them, but like
seventy new dudes. I mean, if you think you how
do you know? We don't last thing for you?

Speaker 3 (01:21:53):
But you dust I remember preseason practice one year and
I was talking to you, and I forget the second player,
but what was what was pac Man's number? What was
his number?

Speaker 1 (01:22:03):
Two?

Speaker 2 (01:22:03):
Nine?

Speaker 3 (01:22:04):
Was he nine?

Speaker 2 (01:22:05):
Yeah? And was he the same?

Speaker 3 (01:22:07):
Who else was this stud on that team? Was Chris
Henry on that slim slim? And what was his numbers?

Speaker 2 (01:22:13):
Five? Five?

Speaker 3 (01:22:15):
And I remember Dusty talking to you and asking you
what do you like here? And you said I like
nine and I like five. Yeah, and those guys, those
are two guys that stood out.

Speaker 2 (01:22:25):
They sound like a sore thumbs though. I mean, like,
come on, Packman Jones, the first round draft pick. Yeah magic.
If if Chris Henry were stayed, he'd have been he'd
have been like one of those. Especially today's game where
you're six.

Speaker 1 (01:22:39):
Foot five and can run.

Speaker 2 (01:22:41):
Oh yeah, because now they don't take a running backs
in the first round. No more.

Speaker 1 (01:22:47):
Have you had fun? That's fun here doing? Oh yeah?
I want to come back next week, but they won't
let me. You're gonna get busy. You watched this show?
You t like during all the years you've been gone,
you've been watching. This is your eighth year coming up
next month. You've been watching.

Speaker 2 (01:23:05):
I've been. I watched a lot of the shows. No,
not all the episodes, because I'm not. They're so busy.

Speaker 1 (01:23:10):
You're not. You don't want to watch the preview. You
don't want to watch the preview for uh, for Texas Tech,
Texas Tech or Muscatel State or anything. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:23:17):
I like football, So if you had a football guy on,
I I watched the football guy, And if you have
you'd bring on the Indy.

Speaker 1 (01:23:26):
Card, right watch it You like that too? Oh yeah, okay, okay, well.

Speaker 2 (01:23:31):
This will be good.

Speaker 1 (01:23:33):
Enjoyable.

Speaker 4 (01:23:34):
Hadn't very enjoyable.

Speaker 3 (01:23:35):
It's good and it's it's good to have Dusty back,
and it's good to reconnect with Dusty.

Speaker 1 (01:23:38):
Good.

Speaker 2 (01:23:39):
It's good to be back. And it's seriously, it's West
Virginia's a special place and it's not. It's not because
all the buildings or it's the people. Yeah, you know,
I mean it was like that the first time and
we knew that, you know what I mean, So special people.

Speaker 1 (01:23:54):
It's great to be able to come back home again,
right right.

Speaker 3 (01:24:00):
Awesome country roads always take you home.

Speaker 1 (01:24:03):
Sometimes it takes a little bit, but you get back home.

Speaker 3 (01:24:05):
You can knock around.

Speaker 1 (01:24:06):
Three guys before the game with our special guest, Dusty Rutledge.
Thanks for being with us. Good to have hoppyback. Four
hundred and seven bike miles later. The show's format will
be changing here in the next week or so. We're
going to transition out of our one a weekers, getting

(01:24:27):
closer to our two of weekers.

Speaker 3 (01:24:29):
When's that start next week?

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