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Speaker 1 (00:11):
Alrighty, corters in session, and now these really start to count.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
You know why you mean the previous shows didn't count?
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Not really. This is the first. This is the first
official free view of an actual opponent. You know, we've
been talking concept, We've been talking you know, non tangible stuff,
the hypotheticals, hype, a lot of hypotheticals, props, h hypothetical.
(00:41):
Season's over, but yeah, that bad boy's over. Now we're
going to start to put right pen to paper. Senator
has not slept. He's been on a like a four
day bender in order to get the analytics ready for
spreads on stats. This is it, folks are West Virginia stated,
West Virginia, Robert Moore?
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Did you have trouble?
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Did you have motiv Look the players need to be motivated.
Were you motivated to dig deep into Robert Morris?
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Their question?
Speaker 4 (01:14):
Very motivated?
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Okay, how do I do that?
Speaker 4 (01:17):
They have fifty some new players West Virginia. What analytics
am I using? This is hard, It's got stuff. I
don't know how deep I went.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
I just still looked.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
But I do have conviction.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
I do have some numbers that we'll get into a
round around experience again Okay, West Virginia. When we get
into spreads on stats, I'm continuing to harp on this
experience thing because I'm just fascinated to see how that translates.
Does a translate to lest wins? Does it not matter?
Does West Virginia overcome its lack of experience? We'll get
into a little bit of that coming up.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
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And again, these are difficult to do for a couple
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of reasons. One, it's the first game of the season,
so you don't have any kind of trends based those
off of. And then with this new world that we're
living in, as everyone knows, West Virginia has seventy plus
new players and Robert Morris is forty plus new players,
and they also have three new coordinators at Robert Morris.
(03:16):
So this is this is as close to a pickup game.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
It's really wild. I mean, I know that's been the
theme of us talking all off season about West Virginia's
all the changes. But we had a good conversation on
sports Line with Bernard Clark, the head coach at Robert Morris,
and he said he fifty fifty three, fifty plus new
guys are coming in. Their quarterback has played some He's actually,
this is this is weird. We're talking about new rosters.
(03:41):
This is a fourth year at Robert Morris for their quarterback,
but he hasn't played a ton, So yeah, I dug
in there and tried to find a couple numbers, but
we'll have to mash through that.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Ethan Shine the quarterback over there, right, that's his name, right, No, Zach,
I'm sorry, Zach Tanner is the quarterback. Yeah, Ethan Shine
is a running back, my bag, you'll get it.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
You got Xavier Goldburn, you got him down on your
charts running back.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
I believe ring A Bell I believe, yeah, believe he
might be on there.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
Their coach is interesting. Played for Miami.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
I remember him.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
Back in the mid eighties. Now he's played at Mountaineer Field.
But it was just one snap, came in, got a stinger.
I remember happy as back. He was the backup to
Jerome Brown.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
That was that team was loaded.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
So I went back and looked at that roster of
the team that he came in on. That was the
year Testa already won the Heisman. That was the year
they have Alonzo high Smith in the backfield. Michael Irvin
is one of the receivers, one of the great Blades
brothers Bernie Bennie whatever. It takes a lot of blades
down there. As you mentioned, Jerome Brown, the late great
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Jerome Brown was on that team. They played for the
World Championship that year, and that was in the Fiesta Bowl,
and that was when Penn State's linebacker Pete Giftopoulos intersect
up to the ball late, ran it right to left
and scored. Remember it like it was yesterday, and they
beat the Hurricanes to win the World Championship.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
That was the famous game when Miami got off the
plane in the battle fatigues right the Camo. That was
a big sture. Yeah, I think that was controversy of
the day.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
A lot going on there. That was a that was
a wild time, and Miami rewrote a lot of rules
in regards to conduct on the field, some sportsman like
stuff because of what they were doing. They were really
they were really like the Johnny apple Seed of pointing
after getting a first down. Yeah, and they give you,
(05:39):
they give you the whole thing. And then celebrations in
the end zone all chilled out because of those guys.
They changed a lot of stuff.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
I can still see Testa Verdi with a with a
rope to Michael Irvin over the middle mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Elmwood, New York. I believe Vincent Testa Verdi like Elmwood,
New York is where he was, So.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
What's wild Clark? Clark was a backup on that team,
played like six years in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
M HM.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
So that tells you pretty got pretty good depth. But interestingly,
he was also the defensive line coach for South Florida
or us F. What do they like to be called? Now,
UCF is not Central Florida, it's UCF. I assume USF
is what they go by South Florida.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
CRAL these any these acronym teams. I just know this.
If you say it wrong, they'll come to your house
and knock on the door there.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
So I've lost track of them. But he was a
coach on that staff in two thousand and six here
in Morgantown. Then he was a linebacker coach at pitt
In twenty ten, West Virginia rolled into hines Field, laid
it on the Panthers thirty five to ten, lined up,
said here we are.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
So that's how he got to Western PA.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
Was one there into his He was a great interview.
It was an enjoyable Yeah, I was kind of talking
to him. Understands what they are at that level and
what he's selling and what he's trying to do. And
Hopy knows he's gonna lose guys, knows he's gonna have
guys that are going to produce and then they're going
to go on somewhere else and he's gonna have to
go backfill from there, and he goes to the D
two ranks, the D three ranks, gets some high majors
(07:04):
that are dropping down. So has a good perspective on
it that I.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Mean, as long as you understand that, because that's what
it is now. I mean, they're the new Jucos.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
If you don't understand it, you'll quit. If you don't
have that in perspective as a coach, you'll go like,
I'm not doing this. One thing that he said that
was really interesting that was old school. Is this used
to happen here too. That some of the players the
first time he sees them on the field actually practicing
is when they start in August. And that's how it
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used to be here, right when kids would come in
either true freshman or junior college players. And now they're
here like all summer, all the time. But like for him,
he literally had guys he had not seen in action
until the start of camping.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Why if you see him in practice. They're wearing name
takes serious. Some do, I'm just teasing.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Some do. And their scholarship is forty five Is that
what he said?
Speaker 4 (07:52):
I think that's it was. Yeah, it is, yes, And
they're going back into the AEC, which everybody will have
similar scholarship levels to them.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Yeah, it didn't make a whole lot of Sun Belt
is where they were Atlantic Sun or Big South, Big South,
something with something with one of the planets, right, so
they were in one of the leagues with one of
the cosmos. I don't know exactly Milky Way.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
I think they're picked to finish third in the league though.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
Yeah, seven and five last year and picked to finish
third this year. But they've just they've got a big rebuild.
Four of five offensive linemen. The quarterback has been there
a long time but hasn't played a whole lot. They're
plugging in new running backs. They've got a couple of
defensive linemen returning, but they're pretty young up front. Other
than that, he thinks they're back end. Maybe the best
part of their team, their back seven, they've got some
(08:36):
speed in the defensive backfield. But he's going into it
kind of like we're talking about Western eag He's not
quite sure what they're going to be able to do
or what they're going to give West Virginia.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
But isn't it I was thinking this morning, isn't it
so much better that you're opening against Robert Morris instead
of Penn State?
Speaker 1 (08:53):
That'd be affirmative.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
Yeah, I mean, I know the fans love that, and
Pat mcavie was here, Buddy was fired up. But realistically,
you want to play Robert Morris or somebody like Robert
Morris in game one. You don't want to play Penn State.
You don't want to play Alabama, and thank goodness, Alabama's
off the schedule.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Brand you do.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
You don't want to play those games. You can't realistically
play those games.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
All due respect Robert Morris, duarback well, And that's one
of the things you're watching this. This becomes a chance
to see what you have, right, you should be able
to line up even not knowing what you have and
handle Robert Moore. So yeah, I think it's a really
good way to start. It's especially a good way to
start for this particular rich Rod Version two roster when
you're just trying to figure things out and see what
(09:32):
we went through. The inexperience of the offensive line in particular,
that's the first part you're going to watch, right, you
see how those guys are able to do. Can they protect?
Can they run the ball? Can you run the inside zone?
So you're going to watch this offensive line then first
and foremost.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Very much so you know, in basketball you can get
a good idea of how good you are in basketball.
Take this in context, Now, how bad you beat a
team non conference? Follow me, in non conference? If you
have a buying game, you know that ninety plus percent
of the time you're going to win. It's how you win,
(10:08):
oftentimes as a great barometer indicator as to how you'll
do when you start to play more challenging teams or
teams within your conference. If you struggle to beat, with
all due respect, some school I'm not even gonna say
a name, then you go like hmm, and normally that
(10:29):
does translate. Now you go out there and you are
absolutely boat racing the team. It's also a pretty good indicator.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
I think it's real hard to see how good you are,
But I do think you can see if the struggle
is coming, and I think that's what you get out
of these games. So that's what you're watching tomorrow, is
what Westford Day is able to do. And quite frankly,
the score doesn't much matter other than that. If this
is a twenty four to thirteen game and we're coming
in here Sunday and it was nip and tuck until
the fourth quarter, we're going to say, well, you better
(10:57):
buckle in. It's going to be a tough season. If
you go out and win forty nine, seven, ten, fourteen, seventeen,
that doesn't much matter to me. It's it's just can
you pull away and control this team? And then that
doesn't mean you're gonna be good, but it gives you
a chance to probably not be bad, I think is
what it tells me.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
If history is an indicator in games like this, you
do win forty seven ten, forty nine to fourteen, something
like that, but you come away or the coaches say,
we're happy to have won the game. It was great
for the fans, but we have a lot of work
to do. There were a lot of mistakes.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
We gotta do it.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
We gotta improve that. I think you could write that
in now and be ready for the story.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
So some indicators are if it's third down and short
yardage and it's like third down and two, third down
and yard and a half, you get stuffed. Oh yeah,
and you got stuff? Can you move them? And it's
happened a couple of times during the course of game. Yeah,
probably got an issue. Yeah, probably got a problem.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
That's why the whole offensive line we're watching interior wise,
can you push up the middle and run up inside, right,
because that's that's what this offense is going to be
predicated on. If you can run inside now I got
to squeeze. Now the outside starts to become a thing.
So that interior offensive line you're watching, and we'll watch
the skill and all that and Jaheim and the running
backs and all that, But that interior offensive line in particular,
(12:13):
how do they hold up? Flip over to the defense too.
I am ready to watch this actual defense play. I mean,
I am tired of hearing Zach Ally's defense is aggressive.
They're going to bring it from all over that. Let's
see it. Let's see how this this works. Because pass
rush last year, guys, was a problem. I'll give you
a few numbers here, a few numbers. I don't know
if there's a spread, so maybe a bonus spreads on SATs.
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You can play the music if you want.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
I'm Zach All. You know what I'm doing for my
first play call drop drop eleven.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
I'm not I'm seventeen guys. I'm throwing three guys off
the side.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
I'm going to do that right, I'm not going to
show you everyone.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Everyone been talking about his blitz. Everyone thing he just
should one defensive lineman and drop ten come get him.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
West Raina was twelfth in the league last year in sacks,
So again that all works together, right, hop If you
if you can't get to the past or the passer,
then your coverage is in more dire straits. And we
saw it last year. He struggled in all three areas.
This was wild though I knew this, but I guess
I'd forgotten because we hadn't talked about it since west
fore last played seventeen years ago. Western He did have
(13:14):
two players in the top six of the league last
year in total pressures, Sean Martin and t. J. Jackson.
Jackson was a really good year in a bad, bad defense.
But then you didn't have another individual in total pressures
in the Big twelve until you got to number forty
in the league. So you just weren't getting multiple formans.
I know, we remember that the starting quarterback from Robert Morris. Again,
(13:34):
I tried to give you some numbers. Shit, I am reaching,
I realized, remember was Zack Tanner. Zack Tanner, I'm seventeen.
I'm happy, I'm reaching that. Don't want to give you
some numb.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
It was just kind of spreads on stats.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
Yeah, probably should just say, yeah, did you play the music? Second?
Speaker 1 (13:46):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
I thought you didn't to.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Do something else first. You know who's a large human being?
Edward Kelly Big Oh my gosh.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
Big Hunter's been lobbying for him to get off the
bus first for about six months.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
I watched him the other day in practice, and he
looks like, again put this into context, he's got an
NFL body, got an NFL body standing at the end
of the line. You go like, that's a large humanoid.
Speaker 4 (14:11):
Six eighty five two something like that, every.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Bit of it. And and and he's showing he's run
some things down to the sidelines.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
Can he be great that that's A. That's one of
the questions where where the spectrum does he fall.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Let's not say great for anyone. Let's just say can
they be good? Can he be good consistently? That's what
I would ask.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
I think he more than good, maybe maybe great. You
need to be somebody's got to be very good getting
to the passer. Yeah, can he be very good?
Speaker 1 (14:38):
I think he can be very good.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
That's an important one.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
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Speaker 4 (14:44):
Did you do the music again?
Speaker 1 (14:45):
No? Not yet. We have an interview coming in. Excuse me,
Rev Kev's coming in?
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Really?
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (14:51):
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Speaker 1 (14:53):
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You're bringing Kevin for an interview and didn't tell him
to bring some of those boxes that he's selling on Friday.
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Ready? Is this the music?
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Speaker 4 (18:51):
Well, I think it's probably average. Well what do you
work with?
Speaker 2 (18:56):
You got nothing?
Speaker 4 (18:57):
Will be times we come on during the season, I'll
say I got some good stuff here. This is probably
very average.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
I'm not sure what you can I'm not going to
fault you on. I'm not going to fault on that
because I got numbers for you one and twenty. So
if West Virginia has seventy new bees and you said
RMC fifty plus has fifty plus, it's over one hundred
and twenty new bodies are going to be think about this.
Put that in context. Saturday, you're in the stands or
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you're watching the game, and you're going, like, over one
hundred and twenty of those people in uniforms today were
somewhere else last year and not at these schools.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
I know.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
Crazy, Yeah, And so that's why I'm just going to
give you a couple of stats on this particular game
that I want to dive into. West Virginia's depth chart.
There was one released earlier this week that came out.
I want to go through it a little bit and
attach trying to attach some of these this inexperience put
some numbers to it, okay, because I think this is
fascinating hops as we enter this new era. And I know,
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I know seventy a year is on the extreme end,
that's the that's the top couple in the country. I
get good recruits, but fifties maybe not all that unusual, right,
So we're probably entering a new world where this is
going to be more common than not. But it really
it turns the college football prediction business kind of on
its ear because what's always been done is it's based
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on returning production. Right, That's been the that's been the
anchor to everybody's prediction on well, who's going to be good,
who's projected to finish by the way, God.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
There's many guys.
Speaker 5 (20:28):
It's the whole, the whole.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
Parodi'm could be getting shifted here. So there's a lot
of offshoots of that conversation that will save till off season.
But one of them is what does this returning production
or lack thereof mean to your record? And so we'll
talk about the lack of experience and then we'll have
to watch out the season, of course, to see what
that means for a record. First, I'll just give you
one one stat on the pressure that we were just
(20:53):
talking about. Can West Virginia's pressure be better than it
was last year? The starting quarterback Tanner from Robert Morris
in his games on movies Nate huh, Nate zach Zach,
I baited you.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Seventeen.
Speaker 4 (21:12):
Yeah, he was pressured on twenty one percent of his
dropbacks last season, which is as Yeah, now, add I,
Robert Morris has four of five new offensive linemen and
the fifth didn't start the whole season. So I'm back
to can Edward Kelly get some pressure? Can our guy
Eddie V get some pressure? Fred Perry coming off the outside?
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Like multiple guys here? What's the defense able to do
pressure wise on this quarterback?
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Yeah? Probably the only team in the country that has
two ds on their defense. That's an old school name.
That's an old got. Edward Kelly and Edward Vester.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
Both go by Eddie though, right, Yeah, I mean Eddiev
Eddie Kelly V. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Yeah, that's what I got. So that's my big number.
So you can keep this cat up, is what you're
saying he.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
Was able to last year in can West Virginia do
it again?
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Guys?
Speaker 4 (22:00):
This game is way more about West Virginia than it
is Robert Morris. Right, we want to see what West
Virginia has and I think that's one of the pieces
on the offensive side. And we I feel like we've
spent seventy five percent of our time talking offense. And
you do that with a rich coach team, right, but
this defense is just wildly fascinating. It was the downfall
of the team last year. Hope they were brutal?
Speaker 2 (22:19):
Yeah right, yeah?
Speaker 4 (22:20):
Are are they better this year? Who are the guys?
Who are the standout guys? So start with rushing the passer?
That's what I'm gonna keep my eye on first.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
Okay, Okay again, Yeah, it's a good set.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
We could probably also do just a little teaser. Look,
we got those things teasers like how many Mountaineers have
multiple tackles behind the line on Saturday? You want to
do an over under TOL yeah or TfL, I mean
TF for lost. Okay, the numbers two and a half.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
Over total for a team over over.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Over, I'm saying two no, no, no, no, two.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
And a half players have one. That's okay, Okay, over.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
I didn't do I did not do it.
Speaker 4 (22:59):
I did not Dude, they handle the over unders. What
are you trying to.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Say, I'm trying to say, you have I'm a player.
What are you trying player? I am? I'm I'm a
red Carico? How many and Recarco finishes the game with
two TFLs? Okay, how many Mountaineers have two or more
TfL so individually.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
I just said, you said two and a half players
have to.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Have two or more over So you think there'll be
more than two players that will have more than two
or more TFLs.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
Yes, okay, Well that's a lot that's aggressive. Well, I've
told the defense is aggressive.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
Well, and you figure that Robert Mars is going to
be behind, and you figure they're going to have third
and long, you figure they're gonna have a lot of
passing situations.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
All this is based on the right speculation.
Speaker 4 (23:45):
But inexperienced offensive line, can you can you get some
penetration stop the run game behind the line of scrimmage?
I'll take over that. Like to see three guys on
this defense have and that's a lot that's aggressive. I
realize We'll say give me over. Okay, all right, Tuck
roster depth chart here from him does. We talked about
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the inexperience of the offensive line, the starting group. We
projected who the starting offensive line group would be according
to the depth chart, that was the five So we
went through that on the last episode. If you start
to go down the two deep that's listed, I think
you can begin to see why what I just said
college football expectations are based on returning production. West Virginia's
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got very little. Hence the five and a half win total,
the two and a half conference win total that DraftKings
has posted out there. That's part of the reason why
I think you're seeing these low expectations. There's thirteen players
on the two deep, if I did my math right,
thirteen players with thirteen or more career starts. So just
thirteen of those guys offense and defense on this roster
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have started to what would equate to more than one
season of college football at any level, at any level
just thirteen games started, or more more than twelve. Of
those thirteen projected starters are Chase Wilson, the aforementioned Eddiev
Bryden Siders, Michael Coates, Walter Young, Bear, Jeheeme, and Ali Straw.
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So now we're at seven guys that have played the
equivalent of more than one college football season. Four defense,
two offense, one special teams. Niche it down further, there's
three guys of that list that have those thirteen starts
at the power four level, just three, all of them, Eddie,
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v Jahem and Ali. The one I got checked tit
Keys Crawford. Did he get that? I don't think he
had that many at Arkansas starts. Look that up while
while I'm checking it. But I've got three that have
done at the power four level. You take Ali Straw
out of that hobby and what he left with two
non specialists starters that started more than one full season
at the power four level. It's not a lot of experience.
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But what does that mean? Because I'm going to come
back on the basketball roster and basically give you the
same numbers, You're going to be a roster filled with
guys that haven't played at the power four level yet.
And I've watched a lot of basketball practice already. I'm
optimistic about how the talent level looks for West Virginia basketball.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
So is there a difference though?
Speaker 4 (26:24):
One you don't need as many guys, right, there's more
players you need here, and we have to see what
the rest of the league has. But I think West
Virginia basketball showed last year you can bring some non
power four guys in, but they had one really good
guy with P four experience and win and be an
nca tournament who were until you got an all time
screw job.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
Of course you knew that Tykeias Crawford nine starts.
Speaker 4 (26:46):
Nine starts, So you have some real inexperience on this
team in terms of guys that have not only played
college football, had started games, but at this level. But
does that mean anything? What's that mean?
Speaker 3 (27:00):
I think it means a number. No, I don't, No,
it's not me. I do not think it's meaning less
because experience. Let me speak in generalities, I do not
think it's meaning less because experience matters. Not always, but
experience matters. I mean, talent is the keep. Experience matters,
but you just don't know till you see. But is
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it significant generally speaking? Yes, that is significant, right, I.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
Would think because most of the times what we do
and that's why I started this with, is this gonna
take the whole paradigm and flip it on its head
because normally you start with you watch guys that have played,
and they might have struggled a little bit, But what's
the best thing about a freshman They had come a
sophomore and sophomoorre has become juniors. And then you say, okay,
you lived with their mistakes when they were young, and
(27:49):
they grew up and they got a lot better. And
basketball last year again, I'll point to basketball. Last year,
you were you were successful enough to be an NCAA
tournament team with very little power for experience and no
returning experience on your team, and you still put together
a good run. We just haven't seen it in football yet.
We haven't seen the turnover, the roster turnover that Rich
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is trying to do this with. And so many of
these guys in the too deep are being asked to
one come up a new level and two start and
carry the load when they haven't shown that they've done
that before. Doesn't mean you can't, right, doesn't mean you
can't because we're going to come back in here each
week and they'll be guys that we go. I'll tell
you what you know, it looks pretty good. And Michael
Coach looks pretty good. Like there'll be guys that surprise
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us and play really well. West Virginia football has also
seen guys come from the mid major level and pop
and be all conference guys, And we do that list
all the time. We thought that was going to happen.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
Last year.
Speaker 4 (28:43):
It didn't with those defensive guys, but we've seen that
over time. Or Beanie, but you're asking instead of asking
for one or two on the defense, you're asking for
is there six or seven of them that can do that?
So anyway, I think that's just a fascinating look at
what's this mean moving forward in terms of how does
this particular run that is inexperienced, how does it translate
into wins? What does that mean for the number of wins.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
I'm gonna bet I'm gonna bet that it's because most
things end up on a bell curve. So I'm gonna
bet it's a bell curve that a couple guys emerge
and you go pretty good, guys are pretty good, and
some guys like, okay, they're fine, and a couple guys
aren't sure. I mean, the bell curve of life. Typically
it's inevitable that'll happen.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
And it's also as we start kind of tie in
last shows conversation, it's interesting as we start version two
for rich Rod, how often we refer back to his
year one and how far that program came from what
it looked like in year one to what it became
when he walked away, right, you were on the brink
of a national championship. And so it'll just be interesting
to watch in the years that come when we look
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back at this particular group, Remember that twenty twenty five
I had seventy three new guys or whatever that number
ends up being. So I'm just kind of interested as
we get ready to kick this thing off, how we're
gonna remember this season and what the narrative will be
around this season as we move on.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
Which what you're getting at, too, is that rich Rod's tenure.
You can't judge it on game one or Game three
against Pitt. I mean, you're gonna have I know, the
attention span shorter now the new five years is three
years or maybe two anymore, But you're gonna have to
give it time so you can see right to judge accurately.
Speaker 4 (30:20):
Yeah, And to add another question to that, and certainly
don't need to look at twenty twenty six before we've
kicked off twenty twenty five. But I think that's part
of it. What's the number next year? How many of
these guys emerge and return? And you say this time
next year before game one and I run those same numbers,
we say, there's twenty seven guys returning that have started
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more than once. Right, what's that look like as you
move forward in the coming years?
Speaker 1 (30:43):
Right? And we've talked a lot about the seventy plus
new players at West Virginia. I mean, as crazy as
things are right now in college football, West Virginia is
in some absolutely rarefied air. The last I knew, this
was the second most I think it's two in the country.
So it's not like there's twenty teams that are dealing
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with this size number. I mean, we're we're right there
at the very tip of the top as far as
number of players. And so the great unknown, Yeah, great,
kind of a great experiment too, like what's it? What's
it translate to?
Speaker 3 (31:17):
And you don't That's why we play because you don't know.
Because generally the coaches say positive things publicly, Okay, even
though it's Rich Roden says, we did. We didn't, you know,
have our heart edge, didn't have a heart edge the
other day whatever it was, but he said, well, we
like our guys here, we like our guys here. We
like our guys here, like our guys here. But you
don't know what they're saying in the film room.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
Yeah, I think I've been around there enough that I
knew I would know if they were in the film
room going like, I don't know, I do, I'm not
getting that vibe. I truly think they want to see
who performs when the lights come on. Because Rich said
this this week, which is very unusual because people have
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not truly identified as to what they're going to be
able to do, and this is unheard of Scout team players.
Well practice is going on, they'll call several Scout team
players over and hey, come on over here and rep
with us now because they're still trying to get a
feel like in the past. You know, a Scout guy
is a Scout guy. He's developmental. He's just not ready
(32:19):
for whatever reason, to go out there and play. But
they're still calling guys over like, hey, give me two
slot receivers over here, and like there's great opportunity for
these guys right now to still show themselves and say hey,
I can help you guys on Saturday. So that's happening,
and Rich said he can never remember that having the
need or the opportunity to do that, because guys, just
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there's no clear separation of this is our absolute one,
this is our absolute two. It's more like, is that
a bad thing? He doesn't know? That might mean you're
like really mediocre, or that might mean you got some
solid depth.
Speaker 4 (32:57):
A couple more depth chart notes. Two of the four
guys that were just involved in that federal lawsuit in
on the depth chart, Jeff Wimer receiver listed as one
of the many ores Justin Harrington in that defensive backfield.
As we speculated, Harrington's got to probably work his way
into that lineup. He's been at Oklahoma and Washington. You'd
think he'd work in there. So those two on the
original depth chart there good good report.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
Jeff Wimer also, I think it's gonna get a lot
of he'll get tick, he'll get picked early. Go let
him go.
Speaker 4 (33:25):
All right, what else do we need to cover? Game one?
What else are you watching? I know it's different for
you because you're trying to take in the whole scene.
But if you if you had to pick one area
that you're most interested to see when a team filled
with questions, it would be what.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
The ability to run the ball between the tackles? I agree,
I want to mulch people. If you can mulch, you
can do everything else that you need to do, because,
as you know, that forces them to commit. Once you commit,
then jing jing jing. Now you're going to start picking
them apart and going on the outside. I would I
will not sleep well sad Saturday night if we get
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stood up and pushed back on the old line. I
don't think that's going to happen. I do think, well,
we'll be able to do that at least this week
and the next week we'll provide a whole nother challenge
at Ohio University to see if you can do that.
But if you can push and you show some pretty
good ability between the tackles, which will give them the
green light to run their inside zone that they love,
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then then Rich is going to go like, Okay, I
got my palette, I can play with all my colors.
But if that doesn't happen, then Rich is going to
go like, well, I have to can't use the shar truce,
the magenta or the other colors I want to use.
I'm gonna have to just go with my primary colors.
Speaker 4 (34:36):
Then the outside doesn't work as well in some of
those big plays.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
Right, but the public focus will be on when no,
the public focus.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
Will be on a quarterback.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
Yeah, I mean you know, because I mean it just
will because it because it is because always.
Speaker 4 (34:53):
Rich stayed consistent. We got the rare five oars on
the quarterback depth chart, five oars.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
Five have five deep on the depth chart.
Speaker 4 (35:02):
He hasn't varied. So that's that is right, That's what
the majority of the fans are looking and we will
too because you look out there. Has that been a
real narrative by Rich off season or is that going
to be one where we come back in at the
end of the year three quarters in and go yep?
That's like, that's like we're gonna line running backs up
in the slot because we have so many running backs.
We need to get him the ball. How many guys
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play that over under quarterback number is going to be?
So he track all season?
Speaker 1 (35:26):
Well, he went plus four and a half, I know,
he said Monday.
Speaker 4 (35:30):
Yeah, he did.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
He said he was on the over with us. He
went over on four and a half. I wouldn't even
know what was our number. Three and a half, three
and a half, he went.
Speaker 4 (35:36):
Four and sail.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
He moved the line.
Speaker 4 (35:38):
I mean he said, that thing jumped to that that
thing jumped.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
You got to reset, Brad, you gotta reset the line.
Because he was.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
Doing a scouting report on all of them. And I said, like, okay,
you haven't said like that. You know, normally a coach.
You go like, you know, Brad's a good young guy,
but he's still got to get in the weight room.
We've got a lot of things. The things are going
a little bit too fast for those are all the
code words for like he ain't getting on the field.
But he went through his five and I went like, okay,
so is the potential. He goes like yeah, And I
went like.
Speaker 5 (36:07):
All right, let's see.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
I would you just better.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
Buy tickets at three and a half if you can
still buy him?
Speaker 3 (36:13):
Okay, a guy, a couple other extra guys may get
in the game.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
You're not gonna play by play.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
I mean no, no, no, I'm not counting.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
You can't.
Speaker 4 (36:25):
You can't do revisions history it's take one snap.
Speaker 3 (36:28):
Okay, I understand the over underplay.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
I understand it.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
I'm just saying, in a in a general sense, you
can't count taking a snap or two as he's playing
five quarterbacks, because he's not really playing. He's taking a
couple of snaps late in the game. And how many
and how many games playing and how many games?
Speaker 4 (36:47):
Whole premise of the question, well, I I'm reframing it.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
Here's a question for you. Here's a question for you, guys.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
If you if, if I if Rev keV is going
to come in and do five minutes, is he a host?
Is he like, oh we did four guys today, He's
a host.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
Of the shot.
Speaker 4 (37:02):
That's analogy.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
It's not my best I was searching right there.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
Hey listen, don't bring the good Reverend into this.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
You want, but you understand what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
So here's a question for you.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
When you say go ahead, go ahead, what.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
Will begin to eliminate what will begin to eliminate the
quarterbacks from getting back out onto the field?
Speaker 4 (37:25):
Mistakes?
Speaker 2 (37:25):
Mistakes?
Speaker 1 (37:26):
Yeah? Okay, so like, but what happens if everyone goes
out there and they got the hips of Fred Astaire
and they got the you know, a great, great arm
and like that will only add to like, well, wait
a second, he's not hurting us, So basically it comes
down to hurt. Like if you don't hurt us, I'm
gonna keep giving you a chance.
Speaker 4 (37:45):
Well yeah, okay, so that's that. I think that's where
you're going. Miniko comes out hypothetically, takes the first snap
and is and is pretty good. And it's pretty good.
I know who, But Jalen Henderson's does some things and wait,
Scotti Fox might be well, here's a deal. That's your contention.
I don't need to speak for you since you're sitting
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right here, but that's your contention. Wait a second, that
you're going to get a couple that play pretty well,
and he's gonna pull what a coach normally does, and
we're going to talk about seeing the backup quarterback and
the coach really never puts the backup quarterback. That's what
you think is happening exactly.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
Drives him down the field, first three drives, he gets
the two touchdowns in the field goal. You don't take
him outring.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
Wait, you want you want to get the guy, You
want to get the guy reps.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
He needs reps.
Speaker 4 (38:38):
So that but that is a factor again with this
particular team because you're trying to get some continuity in there.
What's that mean? How many drives for an Eco? How
many for Henderson? Does Max Brown see the field? What
about Scotty Fox? But you got the offensive lineman when
you start bringing back up offensive lineman in with your
and starting quarterback.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
And does a quarterback get taken out? See Rich said
he doesn't want guys to play a freight.
Speaker 4 (38:59):
Right right, So he's gotta be careful. You try to
pick on your fourth pass?
Speaker 5 (39:02):
Correct?
Speaker 4 (39:03):
Are you coming back out for the next drive?
Speaker 5 (39:04):
Correct?
Speaker 1 (39:05):
Yeah? I know I get that part of it too.
But at the same time, there's great teaching that goes
on when you do get taken out. Like I told
you four times in practice this week that when you
throw that there and you're not doing that, then you're
not gonna play. If you don't have the ability to
take a player out and sit him down, and he
knows that, then you're scroogy. But these quarterbacks, obviously since
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he said he's gonna play off five, they know that.
They know they have to be it there correct much.
Speaker 4 (39:33):
It's fascinating. I think I think the number of quarterbacks
played is a fascinating question. This year it has been
his number, the number one thing he has said and
not wavered from day one, and when he sat in
here in this seat, he has not wavered from that.
Does he does? He hold to that?
Speaker 2 (39:49):
All right, I'm gonna.
Speaker 1 (39:52):
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Speaker 3 (42:00):
So I guess have this little nugget for you. I
couldn't get interested in the football team. Robert Morris. I
let Brad do that.
Speaker 1 (42:07):
That's very that's very arrogant.
Speaker 2 (42:10):
Well do you respect? But so, who is Robert Morris?
University named for.
Speaker 4 (42:16):
Robert Morris?
Speaker 2 (42:17):
Robert Morris? Who is Robert Morris?
Speaker 3 (42:19):
Robert Morris, probably the most least known, underappreciated founding father
of the country. Came over from England, came to the
United States, became didn't have anything, became a wealthy merchant
and financier, lived in Pennsylvania and was credited with financing
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the Continental Army during the American Revolution, George Washington said,
had it not been for Robert Morris, the army would
have failed. He didn't have any money. The Congress didn't
have any money. So financed the Continental Army.
Speaker 4 (42:54):
Big donor to the army, big donor. Bob Morris did that,
did some nil deals. He get his name on the
uniforms or anything. They put a patch there, didn't get anything.
Speaker 2 (43:01):
In fact, he is Robert Morris, the deeper. I went
down his rabbit hole bred and we're interesting.
Speaker 1 (43:08):
A guy bought the scoreboard.
Speaker 2 (43:13):
He is one of just two people.
Speaker 3 (43:15):
Yeah, that was Roger Sherman who have signed the Decoration
of Independence, the Articles of Confederation, and the US Constitution.
Holy signed all three. As I said, was a financier.
But after the revolution he invested Tony a little bit
too heavily goitcoin.
Speaker 1 (43:33):
No in land.
Speaker 2 (43:35):
He's a big land speculator.
Speaker 4 (43:36):
He not keeped them innimal rights.
Speaker 2 (43:39):
And where and where.
Speaker 1 (43:41):
Did he buy lan West Virginia?
Speaker 3 (43:43):
In West Virginia, now it was Virginia at the time,
same thing because it was late seventeen hundreds, early eighteen hundreds.
But he had land tens of thousands of acres in
southern West Virginia.
Speaker 4 (43:56):
Good nugget.
Speaker 1 (43:57):
That's awesome.
Speaker 4 (43:58):
So that was a good Always a West Forgin and
he can always a West Virginia connection is very good.
Speaker 2 (44:02):
Here's the other here's the addendum to that.
Speaker 4 (44:05):
That's very good.
Speaker 3 (44:06):
He over speculated, he died a broken man, ended up
going broke and going to Debtor's prison.
Speaker 2 (44:13):
Wow, to debtors prison.
Speaker 3 (44:15):
Was eventually released and lived modestly and in general obscurity.
Speaker 1 (44:20):
How about that.
Speaker 3 (44:21):
But that's the story of Robert Morris. That fellow live
to like eighteen oh seven something like that.
Speaker 1 (44:26):
Age been because people didn't live a hole, just maybe
a lot of stuff signed those three things.
Speaker 4 (44:32):
But financ the army and a and of course.
Speaker 2 (44:37):
A West Virginia connection.
Speaker 1 (44:38):
That's amazing.
Speaker 4 (44:39):
Well done. That that's a good. That's very good.
Speaker 2 (44:41):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (44:42):
Speaking of very good, I think REVV. I think is
he's preached on Debtor's prison before. Hey, Revkev, can you
come in.
Speaker 4 (44:49):
Here remind me when we're we've got one more subject
we need to address football related.
Speaker 1 (44:57):
Okay, not about the game or about the game.
Speaker 4 (44:59):
Or no no moving after the game like future.
Speaker 1 (45:04):
Okay, is a reverend coming? Oh what do you guys
have this is did you bring food? Okay, well, thank
you very much.
Speaker 4 (45:15):
God, those are big bags, great bags, good gear for
a good food guy. You got good gear, better gear
than we Good to see it.
Speaker 2 (45:24):
What's good to see it?
Speaker 1 (45:28):
Like? What's in here? Oh my gosh. You guys got
his hats and everything?
Speaker 5 (45:33):
Hats?
Speaker 1 (45:34):
How are your brother?
Speaker 2 (45:36):
Turn them up? Turn them up?
Speaker 6 (45:38):
I got you three hats, three different hats, two car
hearts to Boggins, long sleeve T shirt.
Speaker 5 (45:46):
Yeah gear, I know you'll like this.
Speaker 2 (45:48):
Okay, sweatshirt. Oh I will like that. You know, an
old guy.
Speaker 6 (45:53):
There.
Speaker 5 (45:55):
How's it going? Fellas?
Speaker 1 (45:57):
Our jobs to ask you that?
Speaker 5 (45:58):
How are you right?
Speaker 1 (46:00):
How are you rev doing?
Speaker 5 (46:01):
Really well?
Speaker 1 (46:02):
Okay, good morning.
Speaker 6 (46:03):
We're I think we're set up and ready to go.
Trailers going in tomorrow morning.
Speaker 1 (46:06):
Wow, you're cutting it right down to the end. Brother.
Speaker 5 (46:09):
Well, they had to do a little paving over there.
Speaker 2 (46:11):
Daniels, Did homeless Dave do that? Who did the paved?
Speaker 1 (46:17):
I think it was Oh yeah, surevingt great asphalt.
Speaker 6 (46:22):
Yeah, so they where that area was broken up in
front that connects into university there.
Speaker 5 (46:31):
They paved all the.
Speaker 4 (46:32):
New improved food court, new and improved.
Speaker 1 (46:33):
All right?
Speaker 2 (46:34):
Can they do the can they pay the bypass?
Speaker 1 (46:36):
Now? Can they get the.
Speaker 5 (46:40):
I think they're actually paving west Over right now?
Speaker 1 (46:43):
We call that east Oh my gosh, how do you
get in there?
Speaker 2 (46:48):
You can't? You have to, I mean your papers. Listen.
Speaker 6 (46:51):
I've lived there for nearly fifty five years now, and
it's next to impossible to get in and out of
west Over.
Speaker 1 (46:56):
But when it's done, it's gonna be nice. It's going
to be dandy. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (47:00):
When don't we firing it up? When's the food begin?
Speaker 6 (47:01):
They are now? They are literally prepping everything right now.
Speaker 5 (47:05):
As we speak.
Speaker 1 (47:06):
All right, here we go, okay, like.
Speaker 6 (47:07):
Thirty two briskets, I think six or seven hundred pieces
of chicken, and then like forty or fifty pork butts.
Speaker 1 (47:14):
Okay, so good start, Oh my gosh, yeah, good start.
And then we'll ramp it really up for pit week.
Speaker 5 (47:19):
Oh my gosh, it'll be off the charts for pit week.
Speaker 1 (47:22):
Yeah. How much meat?
Speaker 6 (47:23):
Now?
Speaker 1 (47:23):
How much meat is?
Speaker 4 (47:24):
We'll have a full week for p What is.
Speaker 1 (47:25):
Your now that you've grown this thing you were here
a year ago? What what's the maximum amount? You know? Me,
I'd like to do big number of stuff. What's the
maximum amount of meat? You can cook and one go.
Speaker 6 (47:36):
We can cook two thousand pounds of meat at a pop.
Speaker 5 (47:39):
So I won't say who it was.
Speaker 6 (47:42):
But two friends of ours, yeah, had a bet called
me the other night and said, we want to know
how many briskets do you cook a year? And I said, well, geez,
last year for Penn State alone, we cooked eighty three.
Speaker 5 (47:55):
And if you remember, we ran out.
Speaker 1 (47:56):
I remember, I.
Speaker 6 (47:59):
Said, I don't know, six seven hundred and fifty briskets
a year.
Speaker 5 (48:03):
It is probably what we're cooking at this point.
Speaker 1 (48:05):
Amazing.
Speaker 5 (48:05):
We cook pretty much every week.
Speaker 1 (48:07):
Yeah, yeah, Okay, So let's do this because we oftentimes
talk about revkevin Is barbecue and it's absolute meat candy.
It is as good as there is the best. And
I've been around, I've been around, I mean, I've eaten
all over the country and this stuff is just idyllic.
So let's talk about the source and the whole genesis
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behind the creation of your barbecue business. The money goes
to so.
Speaker 6 (48:38):
We have a number of programs we are now serving
Skyview Milon Park, a small kind of alternative learning center
that Monk County Schools has called Excel Clabtel Middle Clay
Betel High School in Mason Dixon Elementary School.
Speaker 1 (48:58):
So you're providing first two or elements schools. By the way, yes,
you're providing food on the weekends for them to take home.
Speaker 6 (49:05):
We do every single weekend of the school year. We
are providing a lunch bag full of between two and
three thousand calories that these kids are going home with.
And in those schools alone, you have twelve hundred students
combined that fall below the poverty line.
Speaker 3 (49:23):
And you know, Kevin, you know this that teachers often
say when they send the kids home for the weekend,
they don't know, they don't know, they don't know.
Speaker 6 (49:33):
They may not eat until they come back for breakfast
on Monday. And so what we're trying to do is
kind of triage the wound of hunger while we're educating.
Speaker 5 (49:43):
And that's the other part of what we do. We
have a.
Speaker 6 (49:45):
Before school program and an after school program that are
at Skyview Elementary alone right now, but we also have
a full summer program that we're doing for kids all
the way across the county. And you know another thing is,
you know what happens when those extra school care days
go off during the year, And I think there's like
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thirteen or fourteen of them, and these parents have nowhere
to put their kids. And I don't know if you
guys have seen the cost of childcare lately, but you know,
my son Tanner, they just had their their child. I
mean they pay like fourteen fifteen hundred dollars a month.
Our extra care days that we provide for families, it's
two hundred dollars a year. So if you have a
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kid fully invested in our program, it's about forty three
hundred dollars a year is what it costs to feed
that child before and after school care, summer program, and
extra care days. And we don't turn anybody away, and
it's all privately funded. We've never received a grant dollar.
Every single thing that we sell from this barbecue trailer
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goes straight back into the program. Wow, it's been a
long time. We've been doing it since twenty ten. Very
sustainable program, Very sustainable.
Speaker 1 (51:01):
Well you've got a full deal now, you got a
forty foot trailer, you got people that are I mean,
look it's a promo.
Speaker 3 (51:07):
You've obviously worked this thing for fifteen years now, right,
So what is the fine line between truly helping people
in need and enabling.
Speaker 6 (51:17):
Okay, so this is what we're trying to do. And
I don't want to give the names, but we actually
have a meeting next Wednesday and we have people from WV.
Speaker 2 (51:27):
And you know what I mean, right, Oh?
Speaker 6 (51:28):
I know one Because if all we're doing is feeding
people and we're not really equipping them for the future,
what are we doing. We're just perpetuating the problem. So
what we ultimately want to do is educate. So next
Wednesday we have a meeting with one of Roman County
School principles, one of our school board members, of very
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well respected representative from WVU, myself and the young man
who runs our day to day programs, and we are
going to develop a curriculum for our before school care,
are after school care, our summer care, so that kids
are brought up to grade level in terms of their understanding.
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And then you know, they take these aptitude tests throughout
school and it says, oh, you're supposed to be this,
or oh you're supposed to be this, and teachers do
a phenomenal job. I come from, you know, a long
line of public school teachers in Mont County. You know,
my grandmother was the first head of testing and counseling
in mont County decades and decades and decades ago.
Speaker 5 (52:32):
Mom taught school for forty years.
Speaker 6 (52:34):
But what we have is we have teachers that are
already strapped yep to the nth degree. Yes, And the
kids that we're servicing, their parents have to work, they
don't have time to home school their kids. And because
there's so many kids at the poverty level, they're not
going to send a kid to private school or a
charter school. You see what I'm saying, I do, so
we kind of have to bridge the gap, and that's
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what we're wanting to do. So I'll give a very
basic example. If you don't understand history on a Monday,
you got a good shot on a Tuesday. But if
you don't understand algebra on Monday, you're in big trouble
on Tuesday, and you're cheated off the smartest girl in
your class on Wednesday for the next couple of years.
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And this is what happened to me as a Westover
kid growing up eighth grade.
Speaker 4 (53:22):
I was just.
Speaker 5 (53:22):
Smart enough to get into algebra as an.
Speaker 6 (53:26):
Eighth grader, but my head didn't process that way, and
the teacher had to teach to the middle of the class. Sure,
not the high level, not the low level.
Speaker 5 (53:35):
And so by the time.
Speaker 6 (53:36):
I got to WVU and I have to take the
entrance exam for what was it at that time, math
three or something like that, I.
Speaker 5 (53:45):
Had to take the workshop. I was so embarrassed. I
didn't want to do that.
Speaker 6 (53:48):
So my mother, forty year educator in Mont County, says
to me, all right, now, this is going to humble you.
But the best algebra teacher I know is your little
sisters eighth grade algebra teacher. I'm eighteen, Carrie's twelve, and
we have the same math teacher. But what I was
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able to learn in four months took me from not
able to get into math three and then taking the
test making one hundred percent on the test and being
the one who was cheated on. And so what we
want to do in our before after in summer program
is get these kids.
Speaker 5 (54:26):
Up to a level.
Speaker 6 (54:27):
Sure to partner with the teachers. So these kids are
are all of the grade level.
Speaker 2 (54:33):
So they're on that story. Two trains in opposite.
Speaker 5 (54:39):
Hope you haven't done algebra in a lot of years.
Let's talk Brisket for a little of the plan. The
play of his education.
Speaker 4 (54:46):
How do we get the Brisket let's talk.
Speaker 1 (54:47):
I thought he was I thought he was going to
so I thought you were going to say this, and
so I had to take Math three. So I said,
hell with that, I'm going to go into journalism.
Speaker 6 (54:54):
Yeah, I know, really, thank you guys for hiring we
oh so many moons ago. No, you know, that's what
we ultimately want to do. We want to bring education
to these kids. And what we're saying is give us
your kids for pre K through high school and we
will either launch them into higher education or we'll launch
them as trained members of the Smart Force. To answer
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your questions, when is Brisket coming? So we will move
the trailer in there tomorrow. Dave Groover, our main man, says,
we are opening Friday almost at three point thirty in
the afternoon, and we will be there.
Speaker 2 (55:30):
You know, we're usually there till.
Speaker 6 (55:31):
Nine or ten o'clock, whatever it is. And then as
soon as we get there on Saturday morning, I'm going
to say probably eight o'clock, we will open and we
will be there till an hour before game time, most
likely probably around one o'clock.
Speaker 1 (55:42):
What are you serving for breakfast?
Speaker 5 (55:44):
Sou for breakfast?
Speaker 1 (55:46):
Yeah, Saturday morning.
Speaker 5 (55:48):
You know, Coach Savids has already talked about it. We've
sold him.
Speaker 6 (55:51):
I heard he's an early adopter of Rev Kev's brisket.
It's brisket on a biscuit, baby, But we are doing
a brisket. Melt as are special for this this coming Friday.
Speaker 5 (56:04):
You get Kolby Jack and good player. You want a
Friday egg on that thing?
Speaker 1 (56:08):
Sure?
Speaker 3 (56:09):
Oh yeah, we'll put a fridayggtrotro.
Speaker 4 (56:11):
We're bistro Bit's Friday and Saturday or just Friday, just
Friday Friday, just Friday special.
Speaker 5 (56:16):
And we are doing our barbecue the box.
Speaker 6 (56:18):
We're doing plates this year, so if people just want
meat and sides, coleslaw, corn cake, you know, mac and cheese,
tater tots, we'll do that as well. And we'll do
meat by a pound by the pound. And our main
mantainner Cane over there has a setup for game day
pans as well. Those went closed at one o'clock today,
but I think we're opening sales on Friday for pitt
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and that will go through the Tuesday before the pit game.
Speaker 5 (56:46):
But they can they can be part of that.
Speaker 1 (56:47):
Hey, Jake, real quick, if you put up that one
graphic there they go. So that's how you can do.
That's what you can do. Brisket, melt meal, brisket on
a brisket on a biscuit. Sally sells Seashells on the
seashore and a few other things that that's just there's
more we wait, there's more meat by the pound, the
barbecue plate. It's really super good. And if you haven't
had yet, and if you get over there, Rep. Kevi
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will have his picture you can take you get your
picture made with he'll take his picture with you.
Speaker 4 (57:12):
Barbecue in a box was a huge hit.
Speaker 5 (57:15):
I thank you. That's that was Tanner.
Speaker 3 (57:17):
Kane Tanner Tanner is one of the good ones because
that's it's like the h the walking Taco.
Speaker 2 (57:24):
It is, it's the verse. It's your version of the
walking Taco.
Speaker 5 (57:27):
We're doing sandwiches too, if anybody.
Speaker 4 (57:28):
Better analogy than the one you used earlier.
Speaker 5 (57:32):
I couldn't hear what he was saying. Sandwiches if you
wanted as well, So all right, awesome.
Speaker 1 (57:38):
We encourage people to buy Rev. Kev's stuff, whether you
go there to the food court and eat it there,
or if you order a pan and bring it to
your tailgator back to your house. That's what I'm doing
this weekend. I'm getting stuff from him. I'm getting stuff
because I got I got people coming over. I'm just
gonna get it and then bring it to the house.
And are people coming over after the game Saturday, gonna
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warm it up. And I told them classic Italian.
Speaker 4 (58:02):
I didn't know anything about it till right now.
Speaker 1 (58:03):
I am now sure.
Speaker 6 (58:06):
So one of the things we're going to do, and
this is Pit Week, we are going to launch child
sponsorships because it costs those kids forty three hundred dollars
a year to do everything that we do, and a
lot of them can't even afford that. We never turn
anybody away. So starting that week, we're doing three hundred
and fifty dollars child sponsorships, and so at the trailer
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every single week and online the Sunday before the PIT game,
which is September seventh, we will go live and people
if they want to partner with us and help sponsor
a kid. We're doing it at that three p fifty mark,
just because that's what it costs to feed a child
for a year. But there's way more than that that
we're providing for them. As well, so we'll be there
if people want to donate.
Speaker 1 (58:50):
So that's great, very good, Thank you, good reverend, always
the best, always good to have you here. Appreciate it
very much. Check them out at the food court. Let's
do some text let's do some textual healing. Ready wanted
a gear? Two one, two three, Here we go. Textual
Healing is sponsored by episode eight hundred dot com. That's
episode eight hundred dot com. You can check out all
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of our stuff out there. We got our hats, we
got our coffee, got our just Area popcorn is just tremendous.
By the way, President Benson sent me a note he
really loved that Mountaineer popcorn that we gave him. That
Mountaineer munch.
Speaker 4 (59:27):
Yeah, how could he not.
Speaker 1 (59:28):
Yeah, we got music this weekend too at the food court, right,
we got people playing, Yes, yeah, food music. Yes, that's awesome,
yeah big time. As they say, yeah, it'll be a
real it'll be a real squid.
Speaker 3 (59:38):
We're almost like a it's it's like a band on
tour because we're at a venue tonight.
Speaker 2 (59:43):
Oh and we can't say that now.
Speaker 1 (59:45):
You screwed it up, but that's typical for you. Oh
my bad, I.
Speaker 4 (59:48):
Mean connection three oh four will be on hand at
the food court.
Speaker 1 (59:52):
Yeah, absolutely, Daniels.
Speaker 4 (59:54):
Phil has all the new gear out. Go and check
that out right next door. I needa and just probably
don't carry the brisket melt into the store. Yeah, too
much nice stuff. You don't want to spell them the
nice stuff. Hop is he that outside?
Speaker 5 (01:00:05):
I'll eat?
Speaker 4 (01:00:06):
Is he open when Friday? Uh be five ish six ish? Wow,
you're gonna be there? You need some stuff?
Speaker 1 (01:00:15):
Probably need to use the bathroom paying customers only.
Speaker 3 (01:00:23):
Actually I do need to see him. I need to
I need some clothes.
Speaker 1 (01:00:29):
Three guys brought to us by Gomart. You get a
Gomart rewards card, immediately begin saving on food and fuel.
Gomart kicking it. So when the game happens on Saturday
and the mountaineers come down the Man Trip, that'll be
the first recipient of the Man Trip the Gomart sponsors.
But so much more so when you're needing your fuel. Fact,
I gotta I'm gonna be getting me some fuel pretty soon.
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Got the got the you do it? Beeped at me
coming into work today, say hey, you need to stop.
Speaker 4 (01:00:56):
You kept going?
Speaker 1 (01:00:56):
No, I said, I can get here. But then as
soon as I'm done.
Speaker 4 (01:00:59):
Now, will you go mile Ground or Mooster Plaza mile
Ground for you?
Speaker 1 (01:01:02):
Mile Ground? Yeah, mile Ground because I like looking out
at the airport when I fill up. I like looking
at the airports, playing.
Speaker 4 (01:01:08):
A little kid like at.
Speaker 1 (01:01:12):
So get the go mart app immediately begin saving on
your food and your fuel points ring up. I don't
have it open right now, but you know what I mean.
You can take a look.
Speaker 4 (01:01:22):
You know what I'd like to see next week's textual healing,
like maybe Sunday if they can get in, or even
next Thursday. Folks that are on their way up for
the game. There stops at Gomar, right, you get multiple
options there.
Speaker 2 (01:01:33):
We stop on.
Speaker 4 (01:01:34):
Your way up. You were at the Summer Zone one recently.
That's a good easy stop. Sandy there in Fairmont, say
hi to sand girls. It's the world headquarters. There's two
options and files right together, right together, of course, So
send your pictures in if you stop, and especially if
you grab your connection three or four at those go marts.
Speaker 1 (01:01:50):
Might hit that Netty one.
Speaker 4 (01:01:52):
Yeah, one right at Nettie might hit on Thursday when
you go.
Speaker 1 (01:01:56):
Out, Yeah, you might hit the one at Netty. Just
go down there a little bit and say hello to
those folks at the netty gomart s.
Speaker 4 (01:02:01):
Up and see how the rec Peanut butter Cups plays.
Speaker 1 (01:02:03):
Yep, all good to go and download the app and
it's a good deal. Three guys, Hey, could you announce
for all of the people on social media who always
ask what time is the game and what channel it
is it on? Just go to NCAA dot com look
up college football scores schedules, game times, TV schedules. Thanks
in advance. I'm trying to help out. Yeah, so he
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just went old school ncdoublea.
Speaker 7 (01:02:27):
Dot com on that one. Pretty easy to find that
out there. Hey, three guys, here's a long text warning.
Hearing you guys talk about the Blazing Challenge over at
Buffalo Wild Wings reminded me of a story from high
school back in seventeen. Twenty seventeen. My buddy was now
a West Virginia grad, attempted the challenge after our homecoming.
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He was at Shady Spring High School. We did the parade,
we did the game, and we did.
Speaker 1 (01:02:56):
The dance all on Saturday. So after the dance was
our only chance to get a meal. He decides he's
going to do the challenge. Takes my cowboy hat, saddles
up and finishes covered in sauce and snot. They begin
the celebration by bringing out a lemonade and a glass
of milk and advise you to drink them in that order.
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There's an advanced science behind it, so they went acid
and then the dairy. He now lives in DC and
we don't talk much about don't talk much, but we
did run into each other at the coal rush last year.
Actually ended up sitting below the jumbo trunes a couple
of rows apart. Hopefully we were run into each other
at the brawl. I'm limited. I'm a number of games
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due to my sister's wedding on the day of the Robert
Morris game. In my wedding on the day of the
Colorado game. Does that family not realize that football happens
in September? I mean, is there something new there? But
I hope to make one or two more games. Can't
wait for September thirteenth. Thank you, we took himself out
of two games there, all right? That's logan from shitty Good.
(01:04:05):
Best of luck to you. Congratulations on the nuptials. Hey Tony,
I'm listening to you rattle off all the weather debacles
interfering with Mountaineer football games. You left off Tennessee in
twenty eighteen and the Kansas game from last year's. I
was at both of those. I don't go to a
lot of games anymore, but three of my last five,
wow have had major delays. You know. I'm glad you
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pointed that out. A bad run because I also received
a note that I didn't mention last year's Kansas game.
And that's on me because I texted a guy during
the show when we were recording that I thought would
be rain man like and give me all of those,
and he completely botched it by missing the Tennessee and
the Kansas game from last year. So I texted him
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and I said, hey, you missed the Kansas game from
last year.
Speaker 2 (01:04:52):
You know.
Speaker 1 (01:04:52):
He wrote back, what I don't remember that game?
Speaker 2 (01:04:57):
Who was it?
Speaker 1 (01:04:58):
Soup?
Speaker 2 (01:04:59):
I thought, soup?
Speaker 4 (01:05:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:05:02):
I mean. I don't want to talk bad about him,
but fact is fact. Hey, three guys, if you see Hoppy,
tell him how much I enjoyed his interview with Doctor
Gee on West Virginia State of Minds.
Speaker 4 (01:05:14):
Thank You.
Speaker 1 (01:05:15):
A few episodes back, someone mentioned Woody O'Hara. He was
sort of the voice of my Saturday mornings as a
kid on Mountaineer Magazine. I bumped into him once on
the Xon over at the Exxon on don Notts Boulevard
when I was a student. I told him how much
I enjoyed his work. I'll never forget the advice that
he gave me. He put his hand on my shoulder,
looked me dead in the eye in a fatherly way,
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and said, son, don't forget to grab the big gulp
off the roof of your car before he drive away.
Then he walked into the store. I follow that advice
to this day. I loved the show Pete from Pennsboro.
Speaker 4 (01:05:49):
Good mount Near magazine reference Pete Wood.
Speaker 1 (01:05:52):
He just dispatching wisdom at that.
Speaker 2 (01:05:54):
Point, I can that sounds like witty.
Speaker 1 (01:05:56):
Well, I think what he would say like this, Hey,
go get that big gulf off your roof. Hey, gents,
here we are game week. Do you realize that in
Rich Rodriguez's first year as head coach of the beloved Mountaineers,
our second game was against Ohio. This year first year
back second games against Ohio. Also to get into the
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craziness of playing Pitt On the September thirteenth. The attendance
in two thousand and seven was sixty thousand, one hundred
six to zero, one zero zero. Coach Rodriguez came back
to us when he was sixty one years old. He
really pushed it for that one. The WVU pit game
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was played December one, two thousand and seven. Neil Brown
was released December one, twenty twenty four. The Prodigal truly
has come home. Praying for a safe, blessed and fun season.
DJ from Monroe County. A lot of things you can
do with numbers. Sometimes they make you go wow. This
nine to thirteen thing is probably wild. It's the most bizarre.
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I can't get over that.
Speaker 3 (01:07:08):
It's like some things out of Indiana Jones and the
Temple of Dooms.
Speaker 2 (01:07:11):
Things lining up.
Speaker 1 (01:07:16):
Jack from Charleston. Unfortunate in my eyes that we had
to cancel the Alabama series, but I understand why it
had to be done. But it looked like there may
have been an opportunity to play Marshall at home in
twenty seven. We went for Southern miss instead. If we're
going to play a group of five, why not play
against a team that will sell out the stadium and
get people excited. I would spec you, guys, haven't you
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want to go on that one at all?
Speaker 4 (01:07:43):
I was going to say this about the whole schedule thing.
Give I give Wren and Ben Murray sport administrated a
lot of credit. That's basically hitting a three team parlay
what they did there. Sure right to try and schedule.
We joke all the time about how far out football
schedules are done. To try and maneuver that and lock
that in with the different games. It literally is like
getting the three team partly partly being able to do that.
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It's a well done one.
Speaker 1 (01:08:06):
Two.
Speaker 4 (01:08:06):
We've had Ren in here and talked a bunch about
tourism and how how good West Virginia football and basketball
is for tourism. I thought this was a stroke of genius,
stroke a genius. What gett in Coastal Carolina? Oh yeah,
Like normally the flood of tourism dollars leaves the state
and goes to Myrtle Beach?
Speaker 1 (01:08:25):
Right? Got them?
Speaker 4 (01:08:27):
W Ren absolutely flip that and has Coastal Carolina Myrtle
Beach coming here.
Speaker 1 (01:08:32):
He's playing He's playing chess, they're playing checkers. Tremendous, right,
He turned all those Myrtle Beach dollars spun him right
up seventy nine. Now they're gonna hit Gomart, gonna hit
Tutors boat right Why they're here because they need boats
down there at Myrtle Probably exactly what they're gonna do,
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right on.
Speaker 4 (01:08:53):
It Import export there, Kirtchville. That was your old hair support.
Speaker 3 (01:08:59):
Texter, put it put terrofhone him coming in.
Speaker 1 (01:09:04):
Text her. If there was ever any doubt that Brad
was no longer an Iowa native and is a full
on West Virginian, all those doubts were done away with
a few episodes ago. You guys talking about winter, Brad
goes in and says, I like the winner, I just
don't like dealing with the bad roads. My brother in
law and I had the exact same conversation right before
you guys did. It's August and we're walking worried about
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snowy roads. Already hilarious in proof of official West Virginian status.
Now get your picture made, Brad and Glad. We got rain.
We needed that rain. Loved the show, Kevin and Princeton. Yeah,
it make a couple good points there. It makes a
couple of good points.
Speaker 4 (01:09:43):
All right, let's go. Time to open the season. Let's go.
We've been waiting a long time. Let's go.
Speaker 1 (01:09:49):
So he what's your record prediction? He went six and six?
What's yours?
Speaker 2 (01:09:53):
Five and seven?
Speaker 6 (01:09:55):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (01:09:55):
Really?
Speaker 1 (01:09:57):
Because is this the first time you're releasing that publicly
or have you been s well?
Speaker 3 (01:10:00):
If anybody asked, I told them, But this is the
first time publicly. And the line is, I mean it's
five and a half, which I think is about right.
And I tell you, guys, why I'm going below, why
I'm going five is, and Brad you alluded to it earlier.
I mean a lot of teams have a lot of unknowns.
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This team has a boatload of unknowns, a boatload. And
to me, to get to given your conference schedule, to
get to six seven wins, a lot of things that
you really don't know about today have to be pretty good.
Speaker 2 (01:10:39):
Okay, they have to come together.
Speaker 3 (01:10:41):
So there's too many for me, there's too many unknowns
to go to the plus side, and unknowns with this
many usually fall to the negative side.
Speaker 2 (01:10:51):
New coaching staff.
Speaker 3 (01:10:53):
I know he's got sixteen quarterbacks, but there still someone,
certainly your quarterback. You open my eyes about that offensive line.
Conference schedule can be tough, especially on the road. I
think all those things add up to a below five
and a half. So I'm going five, all right, and
a lot to me, a lot hinges on the Pit game.
And I know you can't qualify and say, well, if
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they beat Pit then this they lout to Pitt in
this but but we'll talk about that Pit week.
Speaker 2 (01:11:18):
But I'm going five. It's fair, you're going going six.
Speaker 4 (01:11:21):
Yeah, I'm over give me over the over the five
and a half. I mean me and I mean I
skew optimistic anyway, but I'm in a bank that this
team gets better, that some of that inexperienced stuff they
play their way into getting better, and then there there's
great on known for everybody. Like I'll give you an example.
Texas Tech comes in here in the final game of
the season. A lot of folks have already given them
the Big twelve championship. I don't know if you or
Mark has been down there yet, but a lot of
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people have awarded it to Texas Tech. Right, Oh, that
big payroll. But man, that could go a couple ways too, right, Yeah,
I mean if that if that team stumbles out of
the gate or in October and loses a couple. Think
of the noise around Joey maguire. I mean, that's going
to be a hot seat that gets hot fast. Given
them money they've spent, you get them in their final game.
Could they be coming in here poised to go to
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the Big Twelve championship? Sure wouldn't stun me with what
they've done in the offseason. Could they come in here
and be a program in disarray and maybe have already
fired your coach if there's been chaos and you've lost games,
that's certainly not out of the realm of possibilities. So
the great unknown isn't just West Virginia. It's across this league.
And I do think and we saw it in Week
zero there with I was taking Kansas State. There should
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be a lot of close call games. Yes, so give
me West Virginia finding away. I'm not saying this is
going to be a team place for a Big twelve title,
but find a way to get over that win total.
That's right.
Speaker 1 (01:12:33):
Interesting important game for the league. Nebraska Cincinnati in this
week one at Arrowhead in Kansas City. Corn Huskers favored
by six and a half. Dana Holgerson, the offensive coordinator
there Matt Rules squad at Nebraska. See what I talked
to one of the officials that was working them out
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in here practice. They said, Cincinnati is going like super
fast in practice, temple wise super fast.
Speaker 3 (01:13:00):
So you gotta think, though, in what's Matt rule year
two three?
Speaker 2 (01:13:03):
What does he?
Speaker 1 (01:13:04):
I think it's three this year three, that, and there's
good enough that they'll get it together. You think Dylan Rola,
the quarterback much bally hoed freshman that came in one
of the best recruits in the country, now working with
Dana for a full offseason, what's that Nebraska look like?
Also another important one for the league, Auburn Baylor.
Speaker 4 (01:13:21):
A lot of people high on Baylor.
Speaker 1 (01:13:23):
Yeah, that game. That game is a two and a
half point spread favor in the Tigers games in Waco.
Speaker 4 (01:13:30):
Sawyer Robertson, one of the many big twelve quarterbacks that's
getting a lot of preseason love here.
Speaker 1 (01:13:35):
Yeah, So we'll see how it all shakes out. These
are very important games for everyone involved, especially the league
and your perception. You win some of these games now
and you have a better perception. You lose some of
these and you just kind of like shelved it's a reality.
Fair enough, that's a reality, all right. Hit the music.
Speaker 4 (01:13:56):
You see everybody Friday and Saturday, picking.
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