January 27, 2025 • 45 mins
In this episode of the 30 Screams or Less podcast we review 'Strange Darling', written and directed by JT Mollner, and starring Willa Fitzgerald (The Lady) and Kyle Gallner (The Demon). The plot is nothing is what it seems when a twisted one-night stand spirals into a serial killer's vicious murder spree.
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Welcome everyone to 30 Screams or Less, a horror movie podcast where we review horror movies in 30 minutes or less.
Today's movie we're going to be talking about is Strange Darling.
It's written and directed by J.T. Molnar, starring Willa Fitzgerald as the lady and Kyle Golnar as the demon.
Plot of this movie is nothing is what it seems when a twisted one-night stand spirals into a serial killer's vicious murder spree.
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30 Screams or Less starts now. Corey, what did you think of Strange Darling?
Steve, I thought I was going to hate this because we've talked about this several times before,
but chapters and films typically suck and that's the first thing you see when this movie starts.
First thing I noticed, I was like, oh God, here we go.
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Yep. Honestly, this was done so incredibly well and it does a nice job around hopping
around several different timelines without losing the viewer in the process.
I'm like, we started chapter three or four, whatever. We don't start at one.
We're hopping around the whole movie and I didn't get lost once.
I was glued to it the whole time and I can't wait to hear what you think.
So I think that's the beauty behind this movie of jumping ahead and back and stuff.
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The great thing is, yes, so it starts from three, then it goes to five,
and then eventually we work our way back. Now, three is literally just the lady running
and the demon is after her. The lady's driving a car, the demon's chasing her in a truck,
and she flips her car. You see her running. And this is kind of like the title screen.
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The very beginning though is the girl asking the guy if he's a serial killer,
and then the next scene you see him strangling her without a shirt on.
I'm like, okay, I can fuck with this because we're talking serial killers.
Dude, that line was straight out of Dexter too.
It was fucking awesome, man.
Yep. Do you remember when... Did you watch Dexter?
Of course.
Do you remember when Deb said that to him towards the later seasons?
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Yep.
I don't know if they paid homage to it with this movie, but that was a pretty cool,
maybe unintentional Easter egg.
Yeah, they might have. I was kind of wondering if this movie was inspired by any real serial
killers, but I couldn't find anything. I read that the director was alluding to it,
but never really gave a straight answer. It's like, well, it could be, that kind of deal.
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Yeah.
Now where everyone's trying to form their own opinions and thinking about,
is it maybe based after Eileen Wuornos? I can never really pronounce her last name,
but she's the prostitute that would kill men. And she just started liking it and continued on
with it, and Charlize Theron played her in a biopic. So I'm thinking, is this maybe after that?
I'm jumping a little ahead. Here's where I think the beauty is of this movie, is that we start in
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chapter three, all that insanity is happening. So right away you're sympathizing with the woman,
the lady, and she's running from this guy. He's got a fucking rifle. He's trying to take her out,
all this stuff. She finds a hobo tent with some alcohol and stuff, pouring it on her ear,
because her ear looks like it's fucking shot off or bit off or something. She's got blood
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pouring down her side of her face. The bandage.
Kind of reminded me of Cuckoo. Yeah, exactly. Reminded me of a Cuckoo as well. And so we see
her running through the woods. We've seen this whole scene before, a clear serial killer scene,
chasing his victim, that type deal. So we feel like this is on par with a lot of serial killer
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movies. So I'm like, okay, cool. We got a banger of an opening, but then she runs off and finds this
little house and she goes inside. Then we jump forward to chapter five and see the destruction
inside the house. Now this is where I'm thinking, okay, this serial killer is clearly causing more
shit. So at this point, Corey, we're under this impression that the serial killer is the man.
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I mean, it looks clear as day. That's how they bill it. That's how they bill it. It's exactly how
they bill it. Clear as day, the man is going after the girl. He's trying to kill her. There's a dead
person in the house. The girl is hiding. The lady's hiding. And he's just kind of walking around and
he's shooting trunks in the house. Trunks at the end of the bed. They're called something, but I'm
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just going to call them trunks. So he's shooting the trunks. He's thinking that she's hiding in
them. But he eventually finds her in an unplugged freezer in the kitchen. And then this is when we
start jumping back now and we start jump back to the beginning where he's on a date with that girl.
At this point, we still think that he's a serial killer and he's setting this whole thing up. But
Corey, I want to hear your thoughts on how we're like, we're jumping from five to one now. What were
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you feeling when you're watching one? Were you under this impression like, okay, he's still the
serial killer? Oh yeah. Cause he's, he's following this girl through the woods and he's got a rifle.
Yeah. And she finds this house in the woods there and she meets these, I'm assuming husband or wife
who called themselves hippies. She says she's being chased by someone and can you guys let me
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in so I can be safe? And then we skip forward again and we see the husband or whatever. His
brains are blown out all over the kitchen floor. But I wanted to say something. So one of my favorite
things about this movie was the intro with the text crawl, similar to star wars. Did you get a
vibe from the voice that it was the same guy that did the narration for the OG Texas chainsaw
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massacre? Cause I did. Yeah, a little bit. Now while you were talking, I did find a funny fact
that I'm going to read. So John Larroquette was the guy that voiced that narrator in the original
1974 film. Really? He did not get paid. They did not pay him money for that role. Do you know what
that sucks? What? Weed. What a fucking man. Dude took weed to voice that. What a fucking score that is.
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Like, can you just voice the beginning of the Texas chainsaw massacre? So, uh, and we'll pay
you in weed. He's like, oh yeah, fuck yeah. Why not? And then it's like legendary. So he's probably
kicking himself a little bit. I hope you got some really good weed and none of that skunk weed shit.
Dude, it was 1974. I'm sure it's shit. It's not like the fancy bougie weed that we have now. The weed
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we have now is really fucking over the top, man. The weed back then probably tasted like a dusty
attic. I'd say so, but he got it for free. And now he voiced one of the most legendary characters in
horror film branch history. Yeah, no shit. Um, I don't know why. I think I remember hearing it,
but it just doesn't stick at the back of my mind. But as you bringing it up, I'm like, oh yeah,
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that's fucking right. I think I did read that before. It's such a cool story just to be in such
an iconic movie and not even getting really any credit, just smoking weed. That's what, that's
what you got with that. So whatever. But I kind of got that impression with the scrolling of like
talking about like a serial killer. And this is about the story of the rampage that happened.
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Yeah. The voice sounded exactly like John from that original movie. It wasn't at all.
You know what I noticed that was interesting about this movie? I was looking at the cast
and Giovanni Ribisi is one of the voices in it. What voice was he? He's listed his voice from,
from obviously in the IMDB, but I was scrolling down a little further,
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primarily known for his acting roles. This film marks Giovanni Ribisi's debut as a feature film
cinematographer. Really? So I don't know if he actually voiced a character because the only,
you know, voice I heard other than the characters we see on screen were that narrator from the
beginning. And I'm pretty sure that's what this Robert Craighead guy. Yeah. So there's a narrator
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from the beginning and I was thinking that it might be the radio station that's playing outside
the hippie house. Oh, it could be. Yeah. So maybe he's one of the people on the radio and he's
talking with another person, but I couldn't tell it was him. But I also wasn't focusing on like the,
the two people talking on the radio. You know, I was focusing on what's happening, which is lady
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going into the house and like asking for help. And I'm looking at this house man and immediately
I was getting Texas chainsaw massacre vibes. Oh yeah. It looked like the family's house.
Yeah. It looked very like the family's house, very backwards, very isolated, that type deal.
When you have like the fucking speakers around like that, you're thinking there's going to be
some sort of crazy family happening, but really it was just two older people who make a weird ass
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breakfast on Sundays. Jesus Christ, man. That guy should have had some eggs with his butter.
Oh my God. He had a whole stick of butter that he put into a pan and made eggs with it. That is just
straight up like, I know you can deep fry eggs. That's fine. That just seems like a cholesterol
overkill. And then, and then he makes us pancakes is swimming in maple syrup. Yeah. And then what,
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whatever was that was like the marmalade? I don't know. It was just like, there was so much fucking
liquid. Half a jar on marmalade, of marmalade on each of the pancakes. Yeah. And then they had like
obviously bacon, I think there was sausage and they ended up putting whipped cream on it as well.
And then they stack on a little fruit on top. It's like, yeah, that'll balance it out. That single
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strawberry on the top made it real healthy. Oh, for sure. So they're trying to enjoy their
breakfast and that's when they decide to play the Scott Baio puzzle game, I guess. And that's when
Lady rolls up. Corey, what would you do in this situation? You see a girl who's got like bleeding
from the ear like that and she's freaking out. Would you let her in? I probably would honestly,
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because I don't think she did it to herself. Yeah. But I mean, she didn't do it to herself,
but there's a fucking good reason to not let this one in. Yeah, but they don't know that. I thought
she was doing all this shit to herself, honestly. Really? Because later on in the movie, we find out
what actually happens, right? Right. It is nuts, man. It flips the script. So it flips the script,
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but later on in the movie, I got to jump ahead a little bit. But go ahead, because we already
jumped back and forth with the chapters, we might as well jump too. Yeah. So later on in the movie,
when the police find her after she crawls out of the ice chest after she shoots Demon, the police
show up and she pulls her pants down before the police come in the room. Yep. She made it look
like she got assaulted. So they thought she was the victim. It was just, so that made me think
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back. I'm like, I mean, we see her get shot in the ear, but all the other stuff that happened to her,
like maybe she did it to herself kind of thing. I don't know. Oh yeah, that makes sense. No,
I'm going to say something and try not to sound sexist about it, but I feel like a lot of these
situations, there are girls that they can claim they were sexually abused and all this stuff.
And a lot of times, I wouldn't say most of the time, there's a select amount of times where
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it doesn't happen and the guy gets in trouble anyway. So the guy is seen as the antagonist,
regardless. Yeah, you're right. I mean, unfortunately those things happen. I mean,
that's, it comes with it, unfortunately, but that's kind of the mentality I had seeing all of this.
And Joanne even saw this part. She was sitting on the couch watching it with me and she's like,
she's going to make herself look like a victim here. And that's exactly what she did. Cause I
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thought she was going to get away with the whole thing. I thought so too, man. Like in my nose,
I'm like, holy shit, is she going to get away with this? And I was like, wow, cause she's really
fucking everything up. She just cleared everyone out. Yeah. Everyone got real fucked up. And like,
I go back to that scene and like whatever chapter it was when her and demon were in the hotel room
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and she was on top of them. Yep. And this is the part where she starts torturing him. And this part
made me fucking cringe, dude. Cause the camera kind of, she's just picture, listen to her picture
this. So she's sitting on this dude's chest and the camera is behind her head. Like all you see is
her back, but you can hear the guy like screaming and you can hear these carving noises. Yeah. And
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we later find out that she is the cause she carves EL into this guy's chest with a knife.
Fuck dude. I didn't even put two and two together. I don't know why I'm thinking like her first name
starts on an E or last name starts on an L electric lady. Yeah. Jeez. You just get that?
I just got that now. I don't know why it didn't, I didn't pick it up. I'm glad I enlightened you.
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Yeah. Thanks for enlightening me, dude. This scene, like we're going back to, let's say I think
chapter one, this is where they're doing all the sexual stuff. So they're in the car. She asked if
he's a serial killer, the way he responds, it makes it seem like, no, he's not a serial killer. But
then when they get into the hotel room, we go back to that scene where he's choking her. And it turns
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out she's into some real fucked up stuff. This is consensual. Yeah. And she tells him essentially
that no means yes. And then they come up with a safe word and the safe word made me laugh.
Yeah. It was like, what was it again? It was like Rumpelstiltskin something or whatever.
Mr. Snuffleupagus. There it is. Mr. Snuffleupagus. So Mr. Snuffleupagus is the only thing you're
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allowed to say to make whatever's happening stop. Yeah. Yeah. And this girl, man, she was wild
because she would do that shit. And it's kind of crazy because he started going a little harder
because it seemed like, you know, what the no means yes for her. And the only safe word is like,
safe word is no, that's it. We're done. So he was starting to escalate and he was starting to get
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crazier. And you're still thinking that he's the serial killer. But then there's instances where
you're like, okay, I'm not buying it because the way he's acting like he was a true sadist serial
killer, he would have just kept going. They wouldn't have stopped. So as soon as she said,
Mr. Snuffleupagus, he stopped. Serial killers wouldn't do that unless they were like falling
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in love for some reason. Now that's happened before. I mean, Ted Bundy even had a serious
girlfriend. I mean, they all have some sort of wife or a serious girlfriend. So it's not out of
the ordinary for a serial killer to be in relationship with someone. So I'm thinking,
all right, maybe they're falling in love in a weird fucking way. And they're both just twisted.
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And I was also thinking that maybe they're both doing this craziness. Like maybe it's a sex thing
where they hunt people down. Because I wasn't putting the two together that that was the same
lady that was being chased later on in the film. Because she was wearing all sorts of different
clothes. The hair color looked different and everything. I didn't think it was the same person.
Her hair color changed like three times throughout the movie, I think, right?
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Yeah. Well, there was the lighting, which didn't make it seem like she had blonde hair. It made it
look like she was a brunette. So I'm thinking, is he spending time with a brunette who then put on
a wig and they're fucking around and they're psychotic. And I didn't know if maybe later
it was going to escalate into something like a deadly three way deal. You know, they're like,
maybe we should fucking hunt someone down and kill them and have sex with them. I don't know.
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My brain is fucked up. I think weird. So that's kind of what I was thinking, too. There's a lot
of scenarios that are running through my head, man, watching this movie.
Yeah. And then there's that one scene where she gives him the bag of what we thought was cocaine.
And then he ends up doing it and then starts tweaking out. We're like, wow, they're just,
you know, trying to have a good time at this hotel room. No, she made him snort a whole bag of ketamine.
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Dude, crazy. Yeah. But like, I want to take a little step back, like a scene before. So they
stopped doing sex. And then he's like, getting to this point where it's like, all right, what the
fuck do you want? Because she keeps like stopping and going. It's like she's fucking with him.
And then she's like, do you party? And that's when she breaks out the cocaine. And part of
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part of his ketamine for him. So they start trying to do stuff again. And she just cuts him off.
And he's like, all right, this is fucking ridiculous. I'm done. So he throws his clothes on.
She goes to the bathroom. He walks out. And that's what we think is happening is that he's just
fucking gone. And who knows? Maybe he ends up hunting her later on. But then we see him on the
ground because, okay, you know what? I'm going to take another step back. She's in the bathroom.
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She pulls out a knife and a stun gun. I'm like, oh, fuck. This is getting real weird now. This is
getting really weird. Is like, this is going to even escalate more sexually or are we seeing
like a prelude to her actually being the killer? Still don't know. But we go outside and he's
crawling and he's got foaming cup from the mouth, all this stuff from the ketamine. She drags him
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back in. And now we get into that point where she's sitting on his chest, carving the EL.
And I think at that point we start hopping forward. Well, she carved him up and then she
starts hitting him with the stun gun. Oh God, it wasn't bad enough. This dude just got his chest
carved up. She starts using a stun gun on him while he's tied up. Fucking gnarly, man. Absolutely
gnarly. But okay. So now after that, we jumped to the scene where we find out that she beat the
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hippie husband to death with a phone because they were going to call the cops and she said no cops.
As soon as I heard no cops, I'm like, oh, okay. Something's fucking going down and she beat the
shit out of him. Now I'm like, okay, is she the killer? Like what is happening? Yeah. This is
definitely like, what do you say? Like a lesson in mass of misdirection. That's what I said. I said
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at the end of my notes, a masterclass in misdirection. Masterclass. Yeah. Yeah. A masterclass
in misdirection. This movie is essentially a magic trick. Yeah. For an hour and a half time. It's
just, if you're seeing it for the first time, you can't even predict what's going to happen
because they're just hopping between these chapters. And maybe I think that's why the
director might've done it. Cause you can't put anything together in this movie. No.
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There's no people, you know, you don't have these people out there who can predict the end of a
movie. There's no shot you can do that in this. No shot. No shot because they really convey that
the man is the serial killer. They really make it look that way. And it turns out electric lady is
the same girl. She's the serial killer and she's running away from the demon who's actually a cop.
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Which she finds out later after she kills him. Yeah. She finds out after she kills him that he's
a cop. She like opens up his wall and he's like, well, fuck, you know, cause he made a call to his
police friends to come by. So we start seeing all this insanity. The reason why her ear was
fucking blown off, man, is because somehow in that ketamine stupor, the demon cop, he manages to take
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his gun up before she's about to clearly stab him, shoots her in the ear. And then she runs off
basically half nude. And because I don't want to, again, I don't want to sound like I'm being sexist,
but because she's like a woman, a lot of people are more apt to be, oh, what happened? What's wrong?
What, like, are you okay? Very sympathetic to her. And I think that's the beauty of her being a serial
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killer is that people are going to assume that she's not a killer and that she's just a normal
girl who's in distress, that type deal. It's like a wolf in sheepskin. You know what I mean?
Oh yeah, for sure.
That's exactly right. She's a wolf in sheepskin and she's conveying that approach of damsel in
distress and that she's weak and that someone's always after her and all this stuff. And she runs
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off into the, the hotel's lobby or whatever. It's not, it's a motel. It's more of a motel where like
you check in and everything like that. She runs in there and she's obviously bleeding from the ear,
half naked. She's like, I need a car. I need to get the hell out of here. And the lady's like,
I'm going to call the cops. No cops. Stabs the lady in the throat. I didn't see that coming.
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No, no, that was just a quick little poke with that knife she had earlier.
Yep. Quick little poke stabs her in the throat, blood everywhere. And then there's this other girl
who's wearing the schmock like that a nurse would wear. And that's what we see her running in later
on. So she's wearing the schmock and she clearly lets her go. And I don't know what her deal was
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because it seemed like she let the ladies go for the most part, but others obviously were just
in her path and she had to get rid of them. They were an inconvenience to her.
She's like Jason Voorhees.
Yeah, exactly. Sometimes people just get away and they don't get killed. Like the people in New York
when Jason Voorhees was walking down the street, all of them were fine except for the people who's
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actually after. Yeah. It's pretty much any of those Hollywood monsters. Like Michael Myers,
the same way he's looking for Laurie Strode the whole franchise, but killing anyone in his way.
Exactly. These are just humans and she's just doing the same thing.
Yeah. It's pretty wild, man. And then this is when we start jumping to chapter six, where now we know
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that the guy isn't the serial killer. He's actually hunting her to try to, I guess, stop her because
clearly she's insane. It's the electric lady. She's a serial killer. We don't have a full
backstory yet though. I would have loved to hear more of a backstory on that.
You know what? I'm kind of hoping that this ends up turning into like a Maxine type thing
and we get several. That would be cool, man.
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Because we started with that whole trilogy with X. We never knew how she got to that point.
Oh, that would be fun. Like a prequel to this? Yeah. So X, right? So X was with Maxine living
in the house killing people and then Pearl was how she became Maxine. And then obviously Maxine was
her on the rampage. So yeah, a prequel to this would be cool. I'd love to see how the electric
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lady came to be. Yeah, she is a cool character. I honestly don't think it's going to happen. From
what I was reading, it only made four million. It's a fucking shame that this movie didn't do
better. Was it in theaters? I think it was briefly in theaters. Didn't we see the trailer for this
when we saw Terrifier 3? Pretty sure. Yeah. One of those movies we saw, we definitely saw the
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trailer for this. They showed it and both of us were like, fuck, that looks awesome. Well,
this came out in 2023. What did we see in 2020? It had to have been Terrifier. The
the re-release of Terrifier 2. Oh, maybe I didn't see that then you saw it. Maybe it was
Winnie the Pooh then? I don't know. I know I saw the trailer in theaters in one of those movies we
went to. Yeah, I feel like I remember this. Like we were at the theaters. I feel like I remember
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seeing this as a trailer. Like now that I'm thinking about it, you and I have only been to a few
movies and if we're both remembering it, it probably was there. So this movie, I think it kind of had
the whole menu deal. You know, well, the menu, they didn't really know how to market it so it didn't
do well. Yeah. And then when it went on streaming on Macs, it fucking blew up the internet. People
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were talking about it like crazy and I don't think it was given a fair chance and not to mention,
it's not on any streaming services at the moment where you don't have to pay for it. Like you don't
have to rent it. I bet if they put it up on some sort of streaming service, it would probably blow
up. Yeah, probably. So speaking of movies that are, I should bring this point up here. So speaking
of movies that are told, the story is told out of order. Have you ever heard of the movie Irreversible?
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I've heard of it, yes. So I've seen it, you know, it came out a while ago. I watched it when it
came out, but basically the movie starts from the end credits and it plays backwards. Okay, nice. So
similar to Memento. Similar to Memento, similar to this, but I'm wondering if there's a cop,
because Irreversible, I think it's either Screambox or Shudder. They just released a new version of
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it, a remixed version that starts from the beginning and goes to the end. So I'm wondering if
there's a copy, maybe out there, there's a version of Strange Darling that's told in order. Yeah,
would you watch it? I would watch it, having known how it all ends now, but I don't know if I would
want to watch it. You know, I would want to see that version of it first. Right. See, I thought
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it was basically Star Wars, you know, you don't watch them in the order they came out. Exactly.
You watch them in the order they're intended. Right. So I mean, I would watch it. I would check
it out, but I don't think it would have the same allure as this one does. You're right. Because
with the jumping between chapters, that's the misdirection that's happening. And we just
constantly are thinking the man is the serial killer the whole time. He's the demon, but no,
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she's technically the demon and she's the electric lady. She's the serial killer. So yeah,
we get back to that scene now where he hunts her down. He shoots the freezer. He shoots a freezer
that she's hanging out in hiding from him. And then he ends up handcuffing her. And now we're like,
oh good, he fucking got her. He goes and makes a phone call and his police pals are on the way
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to help out. And we think she's fucking done for at this point. That shit's over. She's captured
and that's it. Thinking it's going to be the end of movie. No, he gets sprayed in the face with
beer repellent. Bear repellent. Bear repellent. Yeah. Beer repellent. That sucks. Bear repellent.
Yeah. Beer repellent. That sucks. Now bear repellent. So he gets shot in the face with
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bear repellent. He gets blinded. She fucking bites his neck like she's a zombie and just rips.
And this is when the demon dies. It's so weird. I don't want to call him a demon. I don't either.
And I don't think they ever actually called him that in the movie, but that's how he's credited.
Yes. As the demon. And she was lady. Yep, exactly. And then we find out she's not lady,
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she's electric lady. But this scene with, fuck now I can't remember their names, lady and demon. So
the scene with them when ladies chink up to the freezer and demon standing in front of her,
I loved it because they just stood there and they were just berating each other for like five or
10 minutes. Yeah. That's what they were just between berating each other and they were just
outsmarting each other the whole film. Like expertly done. Expertly done. And a solid cat
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and mouse game between the two of them. You know, she's sitting there like, looks like you caught
me that type deal. And then she's just talking about all sorts of shit. I can't remember
specifically what she was going into detail on because there was one little portion I didn't
hear. And I think this is just the way she said it. I just didn't hear it correctly, but she was
just going off on these tangents. And I think she was doing her own misdirection to try to learn
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him in to spray him with the fucking bear repellent only to bite his neck. But we were thinking the
whole time, or I was thinking at least that he had her and that was it. And as soon as she bit his
neck, I'm like, fuck, she's going to get away with this. I was like, damn man, this is fucking crazy.
Really good. Really well with just keeping me on my toes. And that closing scene there,
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when you have that song, Love Hurts playing and her singing it. So good. Oh yeah. That's awesome.
She was singing that in the hotel room as well when he was all chained up basically, and he had
like a sock in his mouth. Yep. And they brought it back at the end.
Yeah. And then you think she's getting away. Oh my God. Yeah. Because the cops, and I don't know why,
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man, why didn't they frisk her? She's just fine. She just got a gun in her sock.
Yeah. The male cop. So there's like the male cop and the female cop. And the female cop is like,
she's injured. We have to help her and all this stuff. The seasoned male cop is like,
we don't even know if she's the killer or not. Yeah. He's being, he's being,
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using his brain about this one. Yeah. He's using his brain,
which coincidentally gets sprayed all over the front of a windshield later on.
So he's using his brains and the female cop is like, no, we have to help her. Our first job
is serve and protect. And it's like, okay, we'll move her. We'll get her out of here.
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And they should have checked her, man, because she had a gun. And you know what we didn't mention,
and this is important because the hippie lady, she ran off after she was going to bring electric
lady or lady to this woodshed where I think there was chains in there. She was going to get chained
up. She ran off. Lady was like, ah, whatever. So it's important we bring that up because she's
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in the back seat of the cop car, which doesn't have any divider or anything, which I found
interesting. Yeah. But this is also what the eighties, nineties, early nineties. Yeah,
maybe something like that. I don't know if they had those then yet. Probably not. So she's in the
back seat of the car. The lady cops like, don't worry. Everything will be okay. And as they're
driving, they see the hippie lady trying to wave them down. And she looks in the back seat and sees
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Lady, ghost white, bullet to the head. And then she points it to the cops like fucking drive.
Oh, yeah. That was awesome because she was in the back seat and she just aims through the crack in
the window in the cops car and shoots the hippie lady in the forehead. Yeah, exactly. And she says
to the lady cop to get out again. We're trying to figure out what the hell her M.O. is because she
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lets some people go and kills others. So whether she's like a demon and she sees things or like
sees certain hallucinations or whatever, maybe that's it. Did you ever see Natural Born Killers
with Woody Harrelson and Juliet Lewis? I've seen it. It's just it's been a long time.
OK, so I'll just refer to the scene in that. So Mick and Mallory are hanging out with an Indian
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and the Indian is telling a story and they're actually just having a pretty decent time.
And then Mickey sees a demon within the Indian and shoots him. And obviously he regretted that
in the movie and everything like that. Now, I'm almost thinking, is that the kind of same deal here
that she thought she saw a demon within that cop and blew his brains out after they were
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stopped later on? Because you saw some sort of flash happen, like a red flash and then the gunshot.
That's what I noticed. I didn't know if you picked up on that. No, I didn't actually.
You didn't? No. Again, a lot of stuff in this movie that easy to overlook. Shit,
I missed the overlooking of E.L. on the chest. Like I knew it said E.L., but I didn't know if
it was like her name because they never discuss names. Well, yeah. And I mean, at the time,
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you're kind of trying to figure out what her name might be, because this is before we knew
of the electric lady. Exactly. And you kind of have to. I don't know why. My memory is shit.
So I don't know why I remembered that E.L. she carved into the chest was most likely electric
lady. Yeah, good call on that. My memory is not all that great, but I know my memory is really good
when it comes to taking notes after a movie. It is good. Thanks. So she blows the cops brains away,
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just all over the windshield. She gets out and she starts walking down the street and she sees a car
coming. Now she's again playing the damsel in distress. And this lady shows up. I'm thinking
like, oh, she's going to fucking shoot her and take the vehicle and she's going to get away with
this. But instead, the lady helps her get in the vehicle and sits her in the passenger seat and
starts driving off to go to the hospital. And lady pulls a gun and is pointing at the person that
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picked her up. I'm going to say electric lady at this point, because now we need to differentiate.
Electric lady gets shot by the other lady that's trying to drive her to the hospital. So the lady
takes electric lady's gun and then you just see the kind of the fade to black and white, which
was very cool at the beginning. I thought the movie was going to honestly be in black and white. I
wasn't sure. But yeah, we start seeing it fade to that black and white color and then eventually
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and seen fade to black. We don't know if she dies or anything. I don't know. We just know she's like
passed out pretty much in the passenger seat. This scene with her essentially bleeding out was so
long. It was powerful because it was just electric lady sitting in the passenger seat of this truck
suffering because she's got a she's been fucked up through this whole movie. Oh man. Yeah. She's
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been real messed up, kind of like Cuckoo. Just damaged all over the place. Yeah. And now she's
just literally just sitting in the front seat of this truck, essentially bleeding out on the seat.
And I swear this was like 10 or 15 minutes. I'm probably exaggerating, but it felt like it
because the camera is just looking at her suffering. Yeah. You can see her just grimacing
and shaking a little bit. And I'm just like, man, that is well acted to just be like just a single
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shot camera on her the whole time. Cause that's a one shot deal. Oh yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. There's
no editing on that. That's one shot. So just you see her that whole span of time, just acting out
pure pain from the bullet wound to the stomach. And I just thought that was this such amazing acting
just on that part alone. But overall the whole entire movie well acted from everyone involved.
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No one seemed like they didn't fit. Everyone seemed like they needed to be in that movie and
they played the fucking parts to like the best of their ability. And I thought it was great. I
thought it was absolutely great, but yeah, that scene was powerful. So I would love to know like
if she ended up going to the hospital, they fucking patch her up and then she goes to jail or
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is she dead? We don't know. So this is what's going to happen, Steve. We're going to get a prequel
on how she became the electric lady. And then we're going to get a sequel on what happened
after that truck ride. Yes. We need to see that. Let's make it happen. Let's use our powers of the,
if we put it out in the universe, it's going to fucking happen. Yeah. We got to make this happen,
man. I would love to see this as a trilogy. Yep. JT Molner, if you're listening to this,
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I know you are pay us. Pin me, pay me. Oh man. Yeah. I would love to see a trilogy of this.
Just to see everything that led up to it or everything that's going to happen after,
because I'm invested. I'm really invested in it. This has trilogy written all over it. They could
do the Maxine's thing just like it. They basically started in the middle of this character's story.
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Yeah. It started really, well, it could be the middle, depending on what's going to happen after,
because if she dies, then this could be really just the second half of her life. We would love
to see the whole buildup, how many victims she has to get to the point of being known as the electric
lady. How many people has she killed? Do we know? We don't know. We just know that in order to be a
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fucking serial killer and get a name like that, it's got to be three or more. Yeah. I learned that on
Dexter the other day, actually. Well, three kills. Three or more. Yep. Three or more and you're
considered a serial killer. I think at that point, that's when they start nicknaming you, because
it's just easier sometimes because you don't know. You just give them a moniker and that's who you're
looking for the whole time is this particular person. And that's like any fucking serial killer
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that hasn't been caught, like Zodiac. No one's given Zodiac a name because Zodiac's never been
found. Allegedly. Allegedly. Allegedly. There's people that say that they have an idea of who it
is or whatever. I mean, shit, Jack the Ripper. We don't even know if his name was Jack. Why is his
name Jack the Ripper? Wasn't there someone that came out either last year or the year before that
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said they were Zodiac killers' nephew or something? Yes. OK. Yes. I heard about that, but you've got
to take that with a grain of salt. He's looking for a Netflix payday. Exactly. He's looking for a
Netflix payday. And there's a lot of people that will do that. There's a lot of people that will
say shit just to get their 15 minutes of fame and get on TV. There's no fucking rhyme or reason for
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it because if you get called into the police, now you're trying to say all this shit. Now you're
saying false information and that's just going to get you in trouble. Some people do that, man.
It's fucking weird. It doesn't make any sense. But people want to be in the spotlight so bad
that they'll fucking damage their whole life to do so. And that's what that guy sounds like he's
doing. But all these serial killers, they get these monikers because they need to have a name to
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what the fuck is happening. You know what I mean? It just makes sense. To warn people, you throw a
fucking name out there like that. Now people are scared shitless. Zodiac, BTK, all these names.
They didn't know BTK's name was for a very long time. That pisses me off because did you watch
Mine Hunters? Oh, don't get me started. I was going to say because they teased the BTK thing
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and then it's never going to happen now. Oh my God, man. It upsets me. It really upsets me that
we're not getting one more season of that show. We got cock blocked. We got so cock blocked.
Yeah, they have no interest in making another one. It's so stupid. Why would you tease BTK and then
just fucking end the show? Man, it was such a popular show. I don't know why Netflix just
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pulled the plug on it. I heard stories about the director didn't want to make the series anymore
or I guess it was all filmed in Philadelphia, man. And it was cold and dreary and he didn't want to
do that shit. That's what I heard. I was reading articles, but again, got to take that with a
grain of salt because it's rumor mill shit. We don't really know. But damn, man, I wish they had
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one more season of Mine Hunter because you had Wayne Williams and that whole season where they
focused on him and then they give us that fucking cock tease of a BTK season. And I'm like, man,
that would have been awesome to see. That show is firing on all cylinders, man. I don't understand
I don't understand the whole two season thing. They could have done so. There's been far more
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than a handful of serial killers that were highlighted in that show. Oh, absolutely. The
whole idea of this show is to develop the serial killer system. That's the beauty of it because
they have to talk to these other serial killers to really develop these profiles. And that's what
the whole idea of the show is. And man, I would have loved another season, but it happens. Some
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of these shows, they just get canceled after like season two with like a ginormous cliffhanger or
even season three ginormous cliffhanger. I feel like if you know you're going to get canceled,
wrap it up because you just leave people with too many questions and they get bummed out. The Santa
Clarita diet season three ended with a ginormous cliffhanger. Oh man, that one. That hurts too,
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doesn't it? That was a great show. Yeah, that was such a fun show. I mean, you have a zombie Drew
Barrymore. What's wrong with that? The whole show is hilarious and violent as anything. It was great.
Yeah, Timothy Olyphant. And I can't remember what the son's name is, but he's in everything.
Yeah, he is in everything. Like he was in The Righteous Gemstones. Yeah, he was awesome. The
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whole cast was awesome. There wasn't one person I didn't really like that didn't really serve no
purpose in that show. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah, they were all great. So season three ginormous
cliffhanger of Timothy Olyphant getting bit by Drew Barrymore. Then it ends. Fuck. Then it ends.
Never again. We don't get to see anything else. Nope. The wrestling show heals. Heals. Heals.
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Did you watch it? I didn't watch the second season because I knew it got canceled and I just,
I watched the first one, but no, I'm not caught up. So don't watch it because again, cliffhanger to
all cliffhangers of Steve Amell's character getting paralyzed in the ring. Spoilers. Thanks, Steve.
You're not going to watch it. You love spoilers. This whole podcast is a fucking spoiler. Well,
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now we're talking shows that are fucking ending. They brought Heals back to, did you know Heals is
on Netflix now? Yeah, that's where I watched it. So Steven Amell was saying that if Heals has high
numbers on Netflix, then he thinks they'll greenlight at season three. Netflix will do it.
That would be cool. I mean, it was like front and center when I pulled up Netflix for like a little
while. So I don't see why they wouldn't invest in a season three, but yes, it's all depends on
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numbers, but back to the movie and yeah, we have to go back to this because we fucking went off
the rails for a little bit talking about TV. We're at like an hour already and we haven't even gone
to our final reviews. Fuck dude, you're right. You had a lot of editing to do. I know. Oh, it's going
to take me a fucking hot minute to edit this thing. So I think we should get into it because
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we already did our end scene fade to black and whatever. Corey, what do you give Strange Darling?
This is an easy five out of five for me. I love this movie so much. The chemistry between the
demon and the electric lady was something I've never seen before in a film and the misdirection
with the lady being the serial killer the whole time is absolutely wild. Willa Fitzgerald and
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Kyle Golliner did so good playing these two characters. I will admit though, because we get
that warning in the beginning of the movie that the entire film was shot in 35 millimeter. Yeah,
I still have no idea what 35 millimeter is. It looks exactly the same to me.
The score was amazing and I love the lighting and pacing of the film. That whole chapter thing and
out of order just added such a really unique touch to this movie. I'm just mad it took me so long to
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watch it. I'm a little disappointed myself as well. I feel like I should have saw this way sooner,
but I didn't hear enough about it. I heard like a couple like reviews saying it was like, you know,
for like trailers like Eximon on Rotten Tomatoes and all that shit, right? I saw that, but I didn't
really dive into the movie after that. Yeah, I mean, this has been on my watch list because I keep a
watch list on Letterboxd and I just haven't got around to it. And then, you know, we were trying
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to decide on a movie for this week and I was like, hey, let's do this. And man, I'm glad you
recommended this. Yeah, this ended up being, I didn't think it was going to be in our wheelhouse
for the podcast, but I definitely think it is after watching it. I think so. I mean, serial
killers, it makes sense. Serial killers are, they're always in horror movies, always. So it makes
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sense to have a movie we're reviewing that involves serial killers and lots of people dying. So it
makes absolute sense for us to do this. I'm so glad you actually recommended this movie because
I loved it. Same with me. Going to go with a five out of five on this one. This was a goddamn
masterpiece and misdirection. The whole time we're thinking the killer is a serial killer,
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we're thinking the killer is the man seen at the beginning, but it was really the girl or the
electric lady the whole time. She was absolutely psychotic and I definitely did not see her being
the antagonist of the movie, which with the whole chapter layout that we've talked about before,
that I primarily don't like because I feel like it breaks up the flow. In this case,
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worked out in its favor. So acting was amazing, especially when she's trying to use the fact that
she's a girl to paint a picture that she was sexually assaulted. Score was great, great tension
the whole entire time. Loved the crazy amount of twists and overall well directed movie. I mean,
it took us a little while to get to it as we were talking about. And from what I was actually seeing,
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it makes sense. This movie got a 95% score on Rotten Tomato by the critics.
Does it actually have that right now? 95%.
Damn. Okay. That's insane.
I don't ever look at Rotten Tomatoes.
For critics, but for audience score, it's an 85%, which is insanely high too. I mean,
think about those numbers. That's really, really good.
Yeah, definitely. Especially on Rotten Tomatoes.
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Yeah, exactly. But yet apparently this movie made only 4 million at the box office. So I almost feel
like this is the menu type situation happening all over again. Why this movie flew massively
under the radar is beyond me because more people need to see this movie. All right, everyone, be
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Today's movie we're going to be talking about is Strange Darling.
It's written and directed by J.T. Molnar, starring Willa Fitzgerald as the lady and Kyle Golnar as the demon.
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30 Screams or Less starts now. Corey, what did you think of Strange Darling?
Steve, I thought I was going to hate this because we've talked about this several times before,
but chapters and films typically suck and that's the first thing you see when this movie starts.
First thing I noticed, I was like, oh God, here we go.
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Yep. Honestly, this was done so incredibly well and it does a nice job around hopping
around several different timelines without losing the viewer in the process.
I'm like, we started chapter three or four, whatever. We don't start at one.
We're hopping around the whole movie and I didn't get lost once.
I was glued to it the whole time and I can't wait to hear what you think.
So I think that's the beauty behind this movie of jumping ahead and back and stuff.
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The great thing is, yes, so it starts from three, then it goes to five,
and then eventually we work our way back. Now, three is literally just the lady running
and the demon is after her. The lady's driving a car, the demon's chasing her in a truck,
and she flips her car. You see her running. And this is kind of like the title screen.
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The very beginning though is the girl asking the guy if he's a serial killer,
and then the next scene you see him strangling her without a shirt on.
I'm like, okay, I can fuck with this because we're talking serial killers.
Dude, that line was straight out of Dexter too.
It was fucking awesome, man.
Yep. Do you remember when... Did you watch Dexter?
Of course.
Do you remember when Deb said that to him towards the later seasons?
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Yep.
I don't know if they paid homage to it with this movie, but that was a pretty cool,
maybe unintentional Easter egg.
Yeah, they might have. I was kind of wondering if this movie was inspired by any real serial
killers, but I couldn't find anything. I read that the director was alluding to it,
but never really gave a straight answer. It's like, well, it could be, that kind of deal.
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Yeah.
Now where everyone's trying to form their own opinions and thinking about,
is it maybe based after Eileen Wuornos? I can never really pronounce her last name,
but she's the prostitute that would kill men. And she just started liking it and continued on
with it, and Charlize Theron played her in a biopic. So I'm thinking, is this maybe after that?
I'm jumping a little ahead. Here's where I think the beauty is of this movie, is that we start in
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chapter three, all that insanity is happening. So right away you're sympathizing with the woman,
the lady, and she's running from this guy. He's got a fucking rifle. He's trying to take her out,
all this stuff. She finds a hobo tent with some alcohol and stuff, pouring it on her ear,
because her ear looks like it's fucking shot off or bit off or something. She's got blood
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pouring down her side of her face. The bandage.
Kind of reminded me of Cuckoo. Yeah, exactly. Reminded me of a Cuckoo as well. And so we see
her running through the woods. We've seen this whole scene before, a clear serial killer scene,
chasing his victim, that type deal. So we feel like this is on par with a lot of serial killer
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movies. So I'm like, okay, cool. We got a banger of an opening, but then she runs off and finds this
little house and she goes inside. Then we jump forward to chapter five and see the destruction
inside the house. Now this is where I'm thinking, okay, this serial killer is clearly causing more
shit. So at this point, Corey, we're under this impression that the serial killer is the man.
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I mean, it looks clear as day. That's how they bill it. That's how they bill it. It's exactly how
they bill it. Clear as day, the man is going after the girl. He's trying to kill her. There's a dead
person in the house. The girl is hiding. The lady's hiding. And he's just kind of walking around and
he's shooting trunks in the house. Trunks at the end of the bed. They're called something, but I'm
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just going to call them trunks. So he's shooting the trunks. He's thinking that she's hiding in
them. But he eventually finds her in an unplugged freezer in the kitchen. And then this is when we
start jumping back now and we start jump back to the beginning where he's on a date with that girl.
At this point, we still think that he's a serial killer and he's setting this whole thing up. But
Corey, I want to hear your thoughts on how we're like, we're jumping from five to one now. What were
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you feeling when you're watching one? Were you under this impression like, okay, he's still the
serial killer? Oh yeah. Cause he's, he's following this girl through the woods and he's got a rifle.
Yeah. And she finds this house in the woods there and she meets these, I'm assuming husband or wife
who called themselves hippies. She says she's being chased by someone and can you guys let me
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in so I can be safe? And then we skip forward again and we see the husband or whatever. His
brains are blown out all over the kitchen floor. But I wanted to say something. So one of my favorite
things about this movie was the intro with the text crawl, similar to star wars. Did you get a
vibe from the voice that it was the same guy that did the narration for the OG Texas chainsaw
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massacre? Cause I did. Yeah, a little bit. Now while you were talking, I did find a funny fact
that I'm going to read. So John Larroquette was the guy that voiced that narrator in the original
1974 film. Really? He did not get paid. They did not pay him money for that role. Do you know what
that sucks? What? Weed. What a fucking man. Dude took weed to voice that. What a fucking score that is.
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Like, can you just voice the beginning of the Texas chainsaw massacre? So, uh, and we'll pay
you in weed. He's like, oh yeah, fuck yeah. Why not? And then it's like legendary. So he's probably
kicking himself a little bit. I hope you got some really good weed and none of that skunk weed shit.
Dude, it was 1974. I'm sure it's shit. It's not like the fancy bougie weed that we have now. The weed
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we have now is really fucking over the top, man. The weed back then probably tasted like a dusty
attic. I'd say so, but he got it for free. And now he voiced one of the most legendary characters in
horror film branch history. Yeah, no shit. Um, I don't know why. I think I remember hearing it,
but it just doesn't stick at the back of my mind. But as you bringing it up, I'm like, oh yeah,
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that's fucking right. I think I did read that before. It's such a cool story just to be in such
an iconic movie and not even getting really any credit, just smoking weed. That's what, that's
what you got with that. So whatever. But I kind of got that impression with the scrolling of like
talking about like a serial killer. And this is about the story of the rampage that happened.
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Yeah. The voice sounded exactly like John from that original movie. It wasn't at all.
You know what I noticed that was interesting about this movie? I was looking at the cast
and Giovanni Ribisi is one of the voices in it. What voice was he? He's listed his voice from,
from obviously in the IMDB, but I was scrolling down a little further,
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primarily known for his acting roles. This film marks Giovanni Ribisi's debut as a feature film
cinematographer. Really? So I don't know if he actually voiced a character because the only,
you know, voice I heard other than the characters we see on screen were that narrator from the
beginning. And I'm pretty sure that's what this Robert Craighead guy. Yeah. So there's a narrator
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from the beginning and I was thinking that it might be the radio station that's playing outside
the hippie house. Oh, it could be. Yeah. So maybe he's one of the people on the radio and he's
talking with another person, but I couldn't tell it was him. But I also wasn't focusing on like the,
the two people talking on the radio. You know, I was focusing on what's happening, which is lady
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going into the house and like asking for help. And I'm looking at this house man and immediately
I was getting Texas chainsaw massacre vibes. Oh yeah. It looked like the family's house.
Yeah. It looked very like the family's house, very backwards, very isolated, that type deal.
When you have like the fucking speakers around like that, you're thinking there's going to be
some sort of crazy family happening, but really it was just two older people who make a weird ass
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breakfast on Sundays. Jesus Christ, man. That guy should have had some eggs with his butter.
Oh my God. He had a whole stick of butter that he put into a pan and made eggs with it. That is just
straight up like, I know you can deep fry eggs. That's fine. That just seems like a cholesterol
overkill. And then, and then he makes us pancakes is swimming in maple syrup. Yeah. And then what,
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whatever was that was like the marmalade? I don't know. It was just like, there was so much fucking
liquid. Half a jar on marmalade, of marmalade on each of the pancakes. Yeah. And then they had like
obviously bacon, I think there was sausage and they ended up putting whipped cream on it as well.
And then they stack on a little fruit on top. It's like, yeah, that'll balance it out. That single
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strawberry on the top made it real healthy. Oh, for sure. So they're trying to enjoy their
breakfast and that's when they decide to play the Scott Baio puzzle game, I guess. And that's when
Lady rolls up. Corey, what would you do in this situation? You see a girl who's got like bleeding
from the ear like that and she's freaking out. Would you let her in? I probably would honestly,
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because I don't think she did it to herself. Yeah. But I mean, she didn't do it to herself,
but there's a fucking good reason to not let this one in. Yeah, but they don't know that. I thought
she was doing all this shit to herself, honestly. Really? Because later on in the movie, we find out
what actually happens, right? Right. It is nuts, man. It flips the script. So it flips the script,
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but later on in the movie, I got to jump ahead a little bit. But go ahead, because we already
jumped back and forth with the chapters, we might as well jump too. Yeah. So later on in the movie,
when the police find her after she crawls out of the ice chest after she shoots Demon, the police
show up and she pulls her pants down before the police come in the room. Yep. She made it look
like she got assaulted. So they thought she was the victim. It was just, so that made me think
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back. I'm like, I mean, we see her get shot in the ear, but all the other stuff that happened to her,
like maybe she did it to herself kind of thing. I don't know. Oh yeah, that makes sense. No,
I'm going to say something and try not to sound sexist about it, but I feel like a lot of these
situations, there are girls that they can claim they were sexually abused and all this stuff.
And a lot of times, I wouldn't say most of the time, there's a select amount of times where
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it doesn't happen and the guy gets in trouble anyway. So the guy is seen as the antagonist,
regardless. Yeah, you're right. I mean, unfortunately those things happen. I mean,
that's, it comes with it, unfortunately, but that's kind of the mentality I had seeing all of this.
And Joanne even saw this part. She was sitting on the couch watching it with me and she's like,
she's going to make herself look like a victim here. And that's exactly what she did. Cause I
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thought she was going to get away with the whole thing. I thought so too, man. Like in my nose,
I'm like, holy shit, is she going to get away with this? And I was like, wow, cause she's really
fucking everything up. She just cleared everyone out. Yeah. Everyone got real fucked up. And like,
I go back to that scene and like whatever chapter it was when her and demon were in the hotel room
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and she was on top of them. Yep. And this is the part where she starts torturing him. And this part
made me fucking cringe, dude. Cause the camera kind of, she's just picture, listen to her picture
this. So she's sitting on this dude's chest and the camera is behind her head. Like all you see is
her back, but you can hear the guy like screaming and you can hear these carving noises. Yeah. And
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we later find out that she is the cause she carves EL into this guy's chest with a knife.
Fuck dude. I didn't even put two and two together. I don't know why I'm thinking like her first name
starts on an E or last name starts on an L electric lady. Yeah. Jeez. You just get that?
I just got that now. I don't know why it didn't, I didn't pick it up. I'm glad I enlightened you.
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Yeah. Thanks for enlightening me, dude. This scene, like we're going back to, let's say I think
chapter one, this is where they're doing all the sexual stuff. So they're in the car. She asked if
he's a serial killer, the way he responds, it makes it seem like, no, he's not a serial killer. But
then when they get into the hotel room, we go back to that scene where he's choking her. And it turns
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out she's into some real fucked up stuff. This is consensual. Yeah. And she tells him essentially
that no means yes. And then they come up with a safe word and the safe word made me laugh.
Yeah. It was like, what was it again? It was like Rumpelstiltskin something or whatever.
Mr. Snuffleupagus. There it is. Mr. Snuffleupagus. So Mr. Snuffleupagus is the only thing you're
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allowed to say to make whatever's happening stop. Yeah. Yeah. And this girl, man, she was wild
because she would do that shit. And it's kind of crazy because he started going a little harder
because it seemed like, you know, what the no means yes for her. And the only safe word is like,
safe word is no, that's it. We're done. So he was starting to escalate and he was starting to get
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crazier. And you're still thinking that he's the serial killer. But then there's instances where
you're like, okay, I'm not buying it because the way he's acting like he was a true sadist serial
killer, he would have just kept going. They wouldn't have stopped. So as soon as she said,
Mr. Snuffleupagus, he stopped. Serial killers wouldn't do that unless they were like falling
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in love for some reason. Now that's happened before. I mean, Ted Bundy even had a serious
girlfriend. I mean, they all have some sort of wife or a serious girlfriend. So it's not out of
the ordinary for a serial killer to be in relationship with someone. So I'm thinking,
all right, maybe they're falling in love in a weird fucking way. And they're both just twisted.
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And I was also thinking that maybe they're both doing this craziness. Like maybe it's a sex thing
where they hunt people down. Because I wasn't putting the two together that that was the same
lady that was being chased later on in the film. Because she was wearing all sorts of different
clothes. The hair color looked different and everything. I didn't think it was the same person.
Her hair color changed like three times throughout the movie, I think, right?
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Yeah. Well, there was the lighting, which didn't make it seem like she had blonde hair. It made it
look like she was a brunette. So I'm thinking, is he spending time with a brunette who then put on
a wig and they're fucking around and they're psychotic. And I didn't know if maybe later
it was going to escalate into something like a deadly three way deal. You know, they're like,
maybe we should fucking hunt someone down and kill them and have sex with them. I don't know.
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My brain is fucked up. I think weird. So that's kind of what I was thinking, too. There's a lot
of scenarios that are running through my head, man, watching this movie.
Yeah. And then there's that one scene where she gives him the bag of what we thought was cocaine.
And then he ends up doing it and then starts tweaking out. We're like, wow, they're just,
you know, trying to have a good time at this hotel room. No, she made him snort a whole bag of ketamine.
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Dude, crazy. Yeah. But like, I want to take a little step back, like a scene before. So they
stopped doing sex. And then he's like, getting to this point where it's like, all right, what the
fuck do you want? Because she keeps like stopping and going. It's like she's fucking with him.
And then she's like, do you party? And that's when she breaks out the cocaine. And part of
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part of his ketamine for him. So they start trying to do stuff again. And she just cuts him off.
And he's like, all right, this is fucking ridiculous. I'm done. So he throws his clothes on.
She goes to the bathroom. He walks out. And that's what we think is happening is that he's just
fucking gone. And who knows? Maybe he ends up hunting her later on. But then we see him on the
ground because, okay, you know what? I'm going to take another step back. She's in the bathroom.
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She pulls out a knife and a stun gun. I'm like, oh, fuck. This is getting real weird now. This is
getting really weird. Is like, this is going to even escalate more sexually or are we seeing
like a prelude to her actually being the killer? Still don't know. But we go outside and he's
crawling and he's got foaming cup from the mouth, all this stuff from the ketamine. She drags him
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back in. And now we get into that point where she's sitting on his chest, carving the EL.
And I think at that point we start hopping forward. Well, she carved him up and then she
starts hitting him with the stun gun. Oh God, it wasn't bad enough. This dude just got his chest
carved up. She starts using a stun gun on him while he's tied up. Fucking gnarly, man. Absolutely
gnarly. But okay. So now after that, we jumped to the scene where we find out that she beat the
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hippie husband to death with a phone because they were going to call the cops and she said no cops.
As soon as I heard no cops, I'm like, oh, okay. Something's fucking going down and she beat the
shit out of him. Now I'm like, okay, is she the killer? Like what is happening? Yeah. This is
definitely like, what do you say? Like a lesson in mass of misdirection. That's what I said. I said
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at the end of my notes, a masterclass in misdirection. Masterclass. Yeah. Yeah. A masterclass
in misdirection. This movie is essentially a magic trick. Yeah. For an hour and a half time. It's
just, if you're seeing it for the first time, you can't even predict what's going to happen
because they're just hopping between these chapters. And maybe I think that's why the
director might've done it. Cause you can't put anything together in this movie. No.
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There's no people, you know, you don't have these people out there who can predict the end of a
movie. There's no shot you can do that in this. No shot. No shot because they really convey that
the man is the serial killer. They really make it look that way. And it turns out electric lady is
the same girl. She's the serial killer and she's running away from the demon who's actually a cop.
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Which she finds out later after she kills him. Yeah. She finds out after she kills him that he's
a cop. She like opens up his wall and he's like, well, fuck, you know, cause he made a call to his
police friends to come by. So we start seeing all this insanity. The reason why her ear was
fucking blown off, man, is because somehow in that ketamine stupor, the demon cop, he manages to take
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his gun up before she's about to clearly stab him, shoots her in the ear. And then she runs off
basically half nude. And because I don't want to, again, I don't want to sound like I'm being sexist,
but because she's like a woman, a lot of people are more apt to be, oh, what happened? What's wrong?
What, like, are you okay? Very sympathetic to her. And I think that's the beauty of her being a serial
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killer is that people are going to assume that she's not a killer and that she's just a normal
girl who's in distress, that type deal. It's like a wolf in sheepskin. You know what I mean?
Oh yeah, for sure.
That's exactly right. She's a wolf in sheepskin and she's conveying that approach of damsel in
distress and that she's weak and that someone's always after her and all this stuff. And she runs
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off into the, the hotel's lobby or whatever. It's not, it's a motel. It's more of a motel where like
you check in and everything like that. She runs in there and she's obviously bleeding from the ear,
half naked. She's like, I need a car. I need to get the hell out of here. And the lady's like,
I'm going to call the cops. No cops. Stabs the lady in the throat. I didn't see that coming.
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No, no, that was just a quick little poke with that knife she had earlier.
Yep. Quick little poke stabs her in the throat, blood everywhere. And then there's this other girl
who's wearing the schmock like that a nurse would wear. And that's what we see her running in later
on. So she's wearing the schmock and she clearly lets her go. And I don't know what her deal was
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because it seemed like she let the ladies go for the most part, but others obviously were just
in her path and she had to get rid of them. They were an inconvenience to her.
She's like Jason Voorhees.
Yeah, exactly. Sometimes people just get away and they don't get killed. Like the people in New York
when Jason Voorhees was walking down the street, all of them were fine except for the people who's
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actually after. Yeah. It's pretty much any of those Hollywood monsters. Like Michael Myers,
the same way he's looking for Laurie Strode the whole franchise, but killing anyone in his way.
Exactly. These are just humans and she's just doing the same thing.
Yeah. It's pretty wild, man. And then this is when we start jumping to chapter six, where now we know
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that the guy isn't the serial killer. He's actually hunting her to try to, I guess, stop her because
clearly she's insane. It's the electric lady. She's a serial killer. We don't have a full
backstory yet though. I would have loved to hear more of a backstory on that.
You know what? I'm kind of hoping that this ends up turning into like a Maxine type thing
and we get several. That would be cool, man.
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Because we started with that whole trilogy with X. We never knew how she got to that point.
Oh, that would be fun. Like a prequel to this? Yeah. So X, right? So X was with Maxine living
in the house killing people and then Pearl was how she became Maxine. And then obviously Maxine was
her on the rampage. So yeah, a prequel to this would be cool. I'd love to see how the electric
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lady came to be. Yeah, she is a cool character. I honestly don't think it's going to happen. From
what I was reading, it only made four million. It's a fucking shame that this movie didn't do
better. Was it in theaters? I think it was briefly in theaters. Didn't we see the trailer for this
when we saw Terrifier 3? Pretty sure. Yeah. One of those movies we saw, we definitely saw the
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trailer for this. They showed it and both of us were like, fuck, that looks awesome. Well,
this came out in 2023. What did we see in 2020? It had to have been Terrifier. The
the re-release of Terrifier 2. Oh, maybe I didn't see that then you saw it. Maybe it was
Winnie the Pooh then? I don't know. I know I saw the trailer in theaters in one of those movies we
went to. Yeah, I feel like I remember this. Like we were at the theaters. I feel like I remember
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seeing this as a trailer. Like now that I'm thinking about it, you and I have only been to a few
movies and if we're both remembering it, it probably was there. So this movie, I think it kind of had
the whole menu deal. You know, well, the menu, they didn't really know how to market it so it didn't
do well. Yeah. And then when it went on streaming on Macs, it fucking blew up the internet. People
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were talking about it like crazy and I don't think it was given a fair chance and not to mention,
it's not on any streaming services at the moment where you don't have to pay for it. Like you don't
have to rent it. I bet if they put it up on some sort of streaming service, it would probably blow
up. Yeah, probably. So speaking of movies that are, I should bring this point up here. So speaking
of movies that are told, the story is told out of order. Have you ever heard of the movie Irreversible?
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I've heard of it, yes. So I've seen it, you know, it came out a while ago. I watched it when it
came out, but basically the movie starts from the end credits and it plays backwards. Okay, nice. So
similar to Memento. Similar to Memento, similar to this, but I'm wondering if there's a cop,
because Irreversible, I think it's either Screambox or Shudder. They just released a new version of
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it, a remixed version that starts from the beginning and goes to the end. So I'm wondering if
there's a copy, maybe out there, there's a version of Strange Darling that's told in order. Yeah,
would you watch it? I would watch it, having known how it all ends now, but I don't know if I would
want to watch it. You know, I would want to see that version of it first. Right. See, I thought
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it was basically Star Wars, you know, you don't watch them in the order they came out. Exactly.
You watch them in the order they're intended. Right. So I mean, I would watch it. I would check
it out, but I don't think it would have the same allure as this one does. You're right. Because
with the jumping between chapters, that's the misdirection that's happening. And we just
constantly are thinking the man is the serial killer the whole time. He's the demon, but no,
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she's technically the demon and she's the electric lady. She's the serial killer. So yeah,
we get back to that scene now where he hunts her down. He shoots the freezer. He shoots a freezer
that she's hanging out in hiding from him. And then he ends up handcuffing her. And now we're like,
oh good, he fucking got her. He goes and makes a phone call and his police pals are on the way
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to help out. And we think she's fucking done for at this point. That shit's over. She's captured
and that's it. Thinking it's going to be the end of movie. No, he gets sprayed in the face with
beer repellent. Bear repellent. Bear repellent. Yeah. Beer repellent. That sucks. Bear repellent.
Yeah. Beer repellent. That sucks. Now bear repellent. So he gets shot in the face with
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bear repellent. He gets blinded. She fucking bites his neck like she's a zombie and just rips.
And this is when the demon dies. It's so weird. I don't want to call him a demon. I don't either.
And I don't think they ever actually called him that in the movie, but that's how he's credited.
Yes. As the demon. And she was lady. Yep, exactly. And then we find out she's not lady,
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she's electric lady. But this scene with, fuck now I can't remember their names, lady and demon. So
the scene with them when ladies chink up to the freezer and demon standing in front of her,
I loved it because they just stood there and they were just berating each other for like five or
10 minutes. Yeah. That's what they were just between berating each other and they were just
outsmarting each other the whole film. Like expertly done. Expertly done. And a solid cat
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and mouse game between the two of them. You know, she's sitting there like, looks like you caught
me that type deal. And then she's just talking about all sorts of shit. I can't remember
specifically what she was going into detail on because there was one little portion I didn't
hear. And I think this is just the way she said it. I just didn't hear it correctly, but she was
just going off on these tangents. And I think she was doing her own misdirection to try to learn
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him in to spray him with the fucking bear repellent only to bite his neck. But we were thinking the
whole time, or I was thinking at least that he had her and that was it. And as soon as she bit his
neck, I'm like, fuck, she's going to get away with this. I was like, damn man, this is fucking crazy.
Really good. Really well with just keeping me on my toes. And that closing scene there,
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when you have that song, Love Hurts playing and her singing it. So good. Oh yeah. That's awesome.
She was singing that in the hotel room as well when he was all chained up basically, and he had
like a sock in his mouth. Yep. And they brought it back at the end.
Yeah. And then you think she's getting away. Oh my God. Yeah. Because the cops, and I don't know why,
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man, why didn't they frisk her? She's just fine. She just got a gun in her sock.
Yeah. The male cop. So there's like the male cop and the female cop. And the female cop is like,
she's injured. We have to help her and all this stuff. The seasoned male cop is like,
we don't even know if she's the killer or not. Yeah. He's being, he's being,
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using his brain about this one. Yeah. He's using his brain,
which coincidentally gets sprayed all over the front of a windshield later on.
So he's using his brains and the female cop is like, no, we have to help her. Our first job
is serve and protect. And it's like, okay, we'll move her. We'll get her out of here.
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And they should have checked her, man, because she had a gun. And you know what we didn't mention,
and this is important because the hippie lady, she ran off after she was going to bring electric
lady or lady to this woodshed where I think there was chains in there. She was going to get chained
up. She ran off. Lady was like, ah, whatever. So it's important we bring that up because she's
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in the back seat of the cop car, which doesn't have any divider or anything, which I found
interesting. Yeah. But this is also what the eighties, nineties, early nineties. Yeah,
maybe something like that. I don't know if they had those then yet. Probably not. So she's in the
back seat of the car. The lady cops like, don't worry. Everything will be okay. And as they're
driving, they see the hippie lady trying to wave them down. And she looks in the back seat and sees
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Lady, ghost white, bullet to the head. And then she points it to the cops like fucking drive.
Oh, yeah. That was awesome because she was in the back seat and she just aims through the crack in
the window in the cops car and shoots the hippie lady in the forehead. Yeah, exactly. And she says
to the lady cop to get out again. We're trying to figure out what the hell her M.O. is because she
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lets some people go and kills others. So whether she's like a demon and she sees things or like
sees certain hallucinations or whatever, maybe that's it. Did you ever see Natural Born Killers
with Woody Harrelson and Juliet Lewis? I've seen it. It's just it's been a long time.
OK, so I'll just refer to the scene in that. So Mick and Mallory are hanging out with an Indian
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and the Indian is telling a story and they're actually just having a pretty decent time.
And then Mickey sees a demon within the Indian and shoots him. And obviously he regretted that
in the movie and everything like that. Now, I'm almost thinking, is that the kind of same deal here
that she thought she saw a demon within that cop and blew his brains out after they were
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stopped later on? Because you saw some sort of flash happen, like a red flash and then the gunshot.
That's what I noticed. I didn't know if you picked up on that. No, I didn't actually.
You didn't? No. Again, a lot of stuff in this movie that easy to overlook. Shit,
I missed the overlooking of E.L. on the chest. Like I knew it said E.L., but I didn't know if
it was like her name because they never discuss names. Well, yeah. And I mean, at the time,
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you're kind of trying to figure out what her name might be, because this is before we knew
of the electric lady. Exactly. And you kind of have to. I don't know why. My memory is shit.
So I don't know why I remembered that E.L. she carved into the chest was most likely electric
lady. Yeah, good call on that. My memory is not all that great, but I know my memory is really good
when it comes to taking notes after a movie. It is good. Thanks. So she blows the cops brains away,
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just all over the windshield. She gets out and she starts walking down the street and she sees a car
coming. Now she's again playing the damsel in distress. And this lady shows up. I'm thinking
like, oh, she's going to fucking shoot her and take the vehicle and she's going to get away with
this. But instead, the lady helps her get in the vehicle and sits her in the passenger seat and
starts driving off to go to the hospital. And lady pulls a gun and is pointing at the person that
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picked her up. I'm going to say electric lady at this point, because now we need to differentiate.
Electric lady gets shot by the other lady that's trying to drive her to the hospital. So the lady
takes electric lady's gun and then you just see the kind of the fade to black and white, which
was very cool at the beginning. I thought the movie was going to honestly be in black and white. I
wasn't sure. But yeah, we start seeing it fade to that black and white color and then eventually
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and seen fade to black. We don't know if she dies or anything. I don't know. We just know she's like
passed out pretty much in the passenger seat. This scene with her essentially bleeding out was so
long. It was powerful because it was just electric lady sitting in the passenger seat of this truck
suffering because she's got a she's been fucked up through this whole movie. Oh man. Yeah. She's
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been real messed up, kind of like Cuckoo. Just damaged all over the place. Yeah. And now she's
just literally just sitting in the front seat of this truck, essentially bleeding out on the seat.
And I swear this was like 10 or 15 minutes. I'm probably exaggerating, but it felt like it
because the camera is just looking at her suffering. Yeah. You can see her just grimacing
and shaking a little bit. And I'm just like, man, that is well acted to just be like just a single
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shot camera on her the whole time. Cause that's a one shot deal. Oh yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. There's
no editing on that. That's one shot. So just you see her that whole span of time, just acting out
pure pain from the bullet wound to the stomach. And I just thought that was this such amazing acting
just on that part alone. But overall the whole entire movie well acted from everyone involved.
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No one seemed like they didn't fit. Everyone seemed like they needed to be in that movie and
they played the fucking parts to like the best of their ability. And I thought it was great. I
thought it was absolutely great, but yeah, that scene was powerful. So I would love to know like
if she ended up going to the hospital, they fucking patch her up and then she goes to jail or
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is she dead? We don't know. So this is what's going to happen, Steve. We're going to get a prequel
on how she became the electric lady. And then we're going to get a sequel on what happened
after that truck ride. Yes. We need to see that. Let's make it happen. Let's use our powers of the,
if we put it out in the universe, it's going to fucking happen. Yeah. We got to make this happen,
man. I would love to see this as a trilogy. Yep. JT Molner, if you're listening to this,
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I know you are pay us. Pin me, pay me. Oh man. Yeah. I would love to see a trilogy of this.
Just to see everything that led up to it or everything that's going to happen after,
because I'm invested. I'm really invested in it. This has trilogy written all over it. They could
do the Maxine's thing just like it. They basically started in the middle of this character's story.
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Yeah. It started really, well, it could be the middle, depending on what's going to happen after,
because if she dies, then this could be really just the second half of her life. We would love
to see the whole buildup, how many victims she has to get to the point of being known as the electric
lady. How many people has she killed? Do we know? We don't know. We just know that in order to be a
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fucking serial killer and get a name like that, it's got to be three or more. Yeah. I learned that on
Dexter the other day, actually. Well, three kills. Three or more. Yep. Three or more and you're
considered a serial killer. I think at that point, that's when they start nicknaming you, because
it's just easier sometimes because you don't know. You just give them a moniker and that's who you're
looking for the whole time is this particular person. And that's like any fucking serial killer
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that hasn't been caught, like Zodiac. No one's given Zodiac a name because Zodiac's never been
found. Allegedly. Allegedly. Allegedly. There's people that say that they have an idea of who it
is or whatever. I mean, shit, Jack the Ripper. We don't even know if his name was Jack. Why is his
name Jack the Ripper? Wasn't there someone that came out either last year or the year before that
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said they were Zodiac killers' nephew or something? Yes. OK. Yes. I heard about that, but you've got
to take that with a grain of salt. He's looking for a Netflix payday. Exactly. He's looking for a
Netflix payday. And there's a lot of people that will do that. There's a lot of people that will
say shit just to get their 15 minutes of fame and get on TV. There's no fucking rhyme or reason for
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it because if you get called into the police, now you're trying to say all this shit. Now you're
saying false information and that's just going to get you in trouble. Some people do that, man.
It's fucking weird. It doesn't make any sense. But people want to be in the spotlight so bad
that they'll fucking damage their whole life to do so. And that's what that guy sounds like he's
doing. But all these serial killers, they get these monikers because they need to have a name to
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what the fuck is happening. You know what I mean? It just makes sense. To warn people, you throw a
fucking name out there like that. Now people are scared shitless. Zodiac, BTK, all these names.
They didn't know BTK's name was for a very long time. That pisses me off because did you watch
Mine Hunters? Oh, don't get me started. I was going to say because they teased the BTK thing
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and then it's never going to happen now. Oh my God, man. It upsets me. It really upsets me that
we're not getting one more season of that show. We got cock blocked. We got so cock blocked.
Yeah, they have no interest in making another one. It's so stupid. Why would you tease BTK and then
just fucking end the show? Man, it was such a popular show. I don't know why Netflix just
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pulled the plug on it. I heard stories about the director didn't want to make the series anymore
or I guess it was all filmed in Philadelphia, man. And it was cold and dreary and he didn't want to
do that shit. That's what I heard. I was reading articles, but again, got to take that with a
grain of salt because it's rumor mill shit. We don't really know. But damn, man, I wish they had
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one more season of Mine Hunter because you had Wayne Williams and that whole season where they
focused on him and then they give us that fucking cock tease of a BTK season. And I'm like, man,
that would have been awesome to see. That show is firing on all cylinders, man. I don't understand
I don't understand the whole two season thing. They could have done so. There's been far more
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than a handful of serial killers that were highlighted in that show. Oh, absolutely. The
whole idea of this show is to develop the serial killer system. That's the beauty of it because
they have to talk to these other serial killers to really develop these profiles. And that's what
the whole idea of the show is. And man, I would have loved another season, but it happens. Some
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of these shows, they just get canceled after like season two with like a ginormous cliffhanger or
even season three ginormous cliffhanger. I feel like if you know you're going to get canceled,
wrap it up because you just leave people with too many questions and they get bummed out. The Santa
Clarita diet season three ended with a ginormous cliffhanger. Oh man, that one. That hurts too,
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doesn't it? That was a great show. Yeah, that was such a fun show. I mean, you have a zombie Drew
Barrymore. What's wrong with that? The whole show is hilarious and violent as anything. It was great.
Yeah, Timothy Olyphant. And I can't remember what the son's name is, but he's in everything.
Yeah, he is in everything. Like he was in The Righteous Gemstones. Yeah, he was awesome. The
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whole cast was awesome. There wasn't one person I didn't really like that didn't really serve no
purpose in that show. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah, they were all great. So season three ginormous
cliffhanger of Timothy Olyphant getting bit by Drew Barrymore. Then it ends. Fuck. Then it ends.
Never again. We don't get to see anything else. Nope. The wrestling show heals. Heals. Heals.
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Did you watch it? I didn't watch the second season because I knew it got canceled and I just,
I watched the first one, but no, I'm not caught up. So don't watch it because again, cliffhanger to
all cliffhangers of Steve Amell's character getting paralyzed in the ring. Spoilers. Thanks, Steve.
You're not going to watch it. You love spoilers. This whole podcast is a fucking spoiler. Well,
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now we're talking shows that are fucking ending. They brought Heals back to, did you know Heals is
on Netflix now? Yeah, that's where I watched it. So Steven Amell was saying that if Heals has high
numbers on Netflix, then he thinks they'll greenlight at season three. Netflix will do it.
That would be cool. I mean, it was like front and center when I pulled up Netflix for like a little
while. So I don't see why they wouldn't invest in a season three, but yes, it's all depends on
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numbers, but back to the movie and yeah, we have to go back to this because we fucking went off
the rails for a little bit talking about TV. We're at like an hour already and we haven't even gone
to our final reviews. Fuck dude, you're right. You had a lot of editing to do. I know. Oh, it's going
to take me a fucking hot minute to edit this thing. So I think we should get into it because
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we already did our end scene fade to black and whatever. Corey, what do you give Strange Darling?
This is an easy five out of five for me. I love this movie so much. The chemistry between the
demon and the electric lady was something I've never seen before in a film and the misdirection
with the lady being the serial killer the whole time is absolutely wild. Willa Fitzgerald and
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Kyle Golliner did so good playing these two characters. I will admit though, because we get
that warning in the beginning of the movie that the entire film was shot in 35 millimeter. Yeah,
I still have no idea what 35 millimeter is. It looks exactly the same to me.
The score was amazing and I love the lighting and pacing of the film. That whole chapter thing and
out of order just added such a really unique touch to this movie. I'm just mad it took me so long to
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watch it. I'm a little disappointed myself as well. I feel like I should have saw this way sooner,
but I didn't hear enough about it. I heard like a couple like reviews saying it was like, you know,
for like trailers like Eximon on Rotten Tomatoes and all that shit, right? I saw that, but I didn't
really dive into the movie after that. Yeah, I mean, this has been on my watch list because I keep a
watch list on Letterboxd and I just haven't got around to it. And then, you know, we were trying
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to decide on a movie for this week and I was like, hey, let's do this. And man, I'm glad you
recommended this. Yeah, this ended up being, I didn't think it was going to be in our wheelhouse
for the podcast, but I definitely think it is after watching it. I think so. I mean, serial
killers, it makes sense. Serial killers are, they're always in horror movies, always. So it makes
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sense to have a movie we're reviewing that involves serial killers and lots of people dying. So it
makes absolute sense for us to do this. I'm so glad you actually recommended this movie because
I loved it. Same with me. Going to go with a five out of five on this one. This was a goddamn
masterpiece and misdirection. The whole time we're thinking the killer is a serial killer,
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we're thinking the killer is the man seen at the beginning, but it was really the girl or the
electric lady the whole time. She was absolutely psychotic and I definitely did not see her being
the antagonist of the movie, which with the whole chapter layout that we've talked about before,
that I primarily don't like because I feel like it breaks up the flow. In this case,
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worked out in its favor. So acting was amazing, especially when she's trying to use the fact that
she's a girl to paint a picture that she was sexually assaulted. Score was great, great tension
the whole entire time. Loved the crazy amount of twists and overall well directed movie. I mean,
it took us a little while to get to it as we were talking about. And from what I was actually seeing,
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it makes sense. This movie got a 95% score on Rotten Tomato by the critics.
Does it actually have that right now? 95%.
Damn. Okay. That's insane.
I don't ever look at Rotten Tomatoes.
For critics, but for audience score, it's an 85%, which is insanely high too. I mean,
think about those numbers. That's really, really good.
Yeah, definitely. Especially on Rotten Tomatoes.
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Yeah, exactly. But yet apparently this movie made only 4 million at the box office. So I almost feel
like this is the menu type situation happening all over again. Why this movie flew massively
under the radar is beyond me because more people need to see this movie. All right, everyone, be
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