February 10, 2025 • 42 mins
In this episode of the 30 Screams or Less podcast we review another Shudder original, "Dark Match" written and directed by Lowell Dean, starring Ayisha Issa (Miss Behave), Steven Ogg (Mean Joe Lean) and Chris Jericho (The Leader). The plot is about a small-time wrestling company accepts a well-paying gig in a backwoods town only to learn, too late, that the community is run by a mysterious cult leader with devious plans for their match.
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Warning 30 screams or less may contain spoilers about movies that have recently been released.
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If you haven't seen the movie go watch it, come back and enjoy the show. Or if you don't want
to waste your time watching the movie and rather have two random horror dudes watch it for you,
we got you covered as well. Welcome everyone to 30 screams or less,
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a horror movie podcast where we review horror movies in 30 minutes or less. Today's movie we're
going to be talking about is Doc Match. It's written and directed by Lowell Dean starring Aisha
Issa as misbehave, Steven Og as mean Joleen, Mo Aiden as Enigma, Sarah Canning as Kate the Great,
and Krish Jericho as the leader. So there's a good reason why we just name all of those characters
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because they're all pretty pivotal in this movie. But the plot of this movie is a small-time
wrestling company accepts a well-paying gig in a backwards town only to learn too late that the
community is run by a mysterious cult leader with devious plans for their match. But before we get
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Yeah, we have. 30 Screams or Less starts now. Corey, what did you think of Darkmatch?
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So anyone who has listened to us for the past three years knows that we both love horror and
wrestling. So naturally I was really excited to watch this because it combines these two things.
In my personal opinion, Chris Jericho is one of my favorite wrestlers of all time. So that pulled me
into wanting to watch this even more. I thought it was pretty fun and entertaining, but overall,
I just didn't love it. Yeah, I could see that. I had a good time watching it. No real complaints,
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but it's no menu, right? It's no... Well, the last movie we just watched.
Grafted. Grafted. It's not a five out of five movie territory. Like for me, it was like almost...
Don't spoil my rating. What's that?
Don't spoil my rating. Oh, that's right. Shit. You gave it a six out of five. That's right.
So loved it. I mean, I liked it. I thought it was fun because yes, it bridges that gap for pretty
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much our podcasts because obviously we talk horror, but we also talk wrestling because we're part of
the Shining Wizards Network that has a lot of wrestling podcasts. And then obviously we have
our metal stuff, but Jericho's and Fozzy. So we'll consider that metal. It's one of those movies that
has a lot of the elements that would work well with our podcasts for things that we want to talk
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about. And this movie... You know what I loved about this movie, Corey, is that the references
in this movie of like kayfabe and things like that. Yeah. I was like, yeah, okay, you speak in our
language and anyone who's listening to this podcast is going to be like, what the fuck is kayfabe?
Kayfabe is committing to the bit. That's what it is. It has just... Well, that's come up again already, damn.
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Yeah. I mean, you got to throw it in there every fucking episode maybe. And we're going to make a
t-shirt, I assure you. But... What? It says kayfabe? No, commit to the bit. Oh, okay. Yeah. Well,
we can do a kayfabe shirt too. I'm sure that would sell pretty well. But kayfabe is essentially
committed to the bit. So when you're a wrestler, breaking kayfabe is like breaking character. So
you never want to break kayfabe. You always want to be in character. And it's kind of like
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Dominic Mysterio. That dude does not break character. Nope. Never. Ever. Or John Cena.
Or John Cena. John Cena is like the same fucking day in, day out. Yeah. He doesn't break character.
I always have been for 20 years. Yep. Always has been. What's his name too? MJF. Oh yeah. Yeah. Okay.
Yeah. He's always a dick. Yeah. Always a dick. Never breaks character. Shits on his parents.
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Just because. He's just like the, he's like the ultimate heel. He makes kids cry at conventions.
He makes fun of handicapped people. Oh, gee. I saw one where it was like people dressed up as
Macho Man Randy Savage and he walks by and he's like, suck my dick, man.
Yeah. That's awesome. Yeah. Oh, so good. But there was a lot of wrestling references in this movie
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because obviously with the smaller promotions and it being a wrestling based movie, it's talking a
lot of jargon, if you will. So the movie starts off pretty standard, starts off with a wrestling
match. And let me tell you, some of these wrestling names are fucking so thrown together.
So, so briefly though, you talked about the wrestling references, the very beginning of
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the movie where we get that opening promo of all the wrestlers in the promotion,
introducing the roster. I thought that was a really cool touch. Yeah. That was a really cool
touch. And first thing I noticed, me and Jolene, I'm like, is that Trevor from Grand Theft Auto 5?
Did you hear that he wants to come back for GTA 6? Please. No, but did you hear about this?
No, I didn't hear about it. So he said he hopes Trevor is in GTA 6, but only if they kill him in
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the beginning of the game. I see. I could see that happening. Trevor, man, he was like one of the
best parts of Grand Theft Auto 5 because he's just so backwards. Pretty much me and Jolene is Trevor.
They're like one in the same. Yeah. If you look at Trevor and you look at me and Jolene and the way
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he lives his life, it's damn near identical. Yeah. He got to play his character in a movie.
Yeah. Good for him. So yeah, I love Grand Theft Auto 5. I hope he's in Grand Theft Auto 6 and
gets killed in the first few minutes. And then I go, ah, shucks. I just spent $120 on this game.
$120? Oh, because you'd buy the collector's edition? No, I think it's going to be very expensive.
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Oh, okay. Well, we're never going to get it anyways. No. Well, we'll probably get it in like
2026, 2027, 2028. I don't know. Every year for the next 20 years. 29, 30, 31. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
They'll just keep coming out with like new versions of it every year. No, I mean, the base game isn't
even going to come out ever. Oh, the base game ever? No. Dude, they showed the first trailer for
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it in 2023. Oh yeah, that's right. And it's 2025 now. Yeah. They're saying something about 2026.
So imagine dropping the trailer three years in advance. What the hell? Yeah, we're just
rock star things. They do the same shit with Red Dead Redemption. But Red Dead Redemption,
man, was fucking next level. I never finished it. I just got tired of doing the same thing over and
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over again. Just riding a horse. Yeah. Shooting things. I get it, but it's a relaxing game. It
can be. I've been meaning to go back to it because they remastered it for next gen. So. Oh yeah. I've
been meaning to go back to it too, because I have it for Xbox one. So I would just go back and play
it. I don't have it for PlayStation five or anything like that. But I assure you, this is a
horror podcast. There's so many things in this movie that are just hitting all of our fancy bones.
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Fancy bones. It's like tickling our fancy. I didn't want to say tickling, but now here I am.
Yeah, you mean weird. Now I'm being weird. Exactly. Now it's weird. So is it just you with like that
opening match or just me where you could hear them calling the match very loudly? Oh, absolutely.
Yeah. No, you're supposed to really be careful when you're calling matches in wrestling. I think
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that's why a lot of them have long hair. Yeah. I bet. Mouth a little bit. Yep. To hide their mouth
a little bit. It's just easier. I mean, not to mention looks cool, but it's definitely easier
to communicate with other wrestlers. If the hair is over your face and you can just easily talk to
them, but hard to do that for people who are bald. And these girls were just borderline screaming
like, this is the next move. Okay, cool. I know everything that's going to happen now, but
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misbehave just walking in the ring with a fucking chains and she's just swinging that shit around.
It's like, bro, what are you doing? This is not death match. Well, well, I mean, it does turn into
death. Yeah. I mean, it does turn into death match later on, but I mean, we'll get there obviously.
So she hits Kate the great, which by the way, one of the worst wrestling names I've ever heard. It's
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just so basic. Like they could have did something different. I assure you, I could have done it
random name generator and come up with something. I feel like Kate the great is a character from,
do you remember glow? Oh yeah, I do. It sounds like something from that promotion. It might be. I
actually stopped watching that, I think mid season one, there was an episode of my, no, this is
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fucking not for me. This is dumb. I just, I love that show. And then they canceled it after two,
was it two seasons? Something like that. But there was a scene where they're all trying on these new
outfits and they're all being like, I don't know, cutesy, having fun about it. I was like, this is
dumb. I'm done. All right, Steve. Well, they, uh, they apparently missed your, your watch there
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because they got canceled. Exactly. I bet if I watched it, it would have kept going. Yeah.
This is all your fault. I'd like to show a lot. So sorry. Sorry, not sorry. Whatever. Turn me off.
What? Pay me pal. Pay me. So as I'm watching this, I'm like cracking all these jokes.
In my fucking head. I'm like, is this going to be another movie where Chris Jericho has like top
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billing and we don't see him till like after the end credits or he just dies really quick. But no.
Yeah. No, we get the terrifying treatment. Yeah. The terrifying treatment. That's what I was thinking
initially, but no, we got a solid amount of Jericho in this and Jericho plays a cult leader and it was
compelling as a cult leader. I mean, what do you think? I agree. I wrote in my notes here that
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Chris Jericho is a cult leader is something I didn't know I needed in my life. Yeah. It's one
of his other characters. I mean, he's like in the learning tree at the moment, which is kind of
culty, I guess. Yeah. Yeah. Cause he's got people joining him and yeah, but it's still a little weird
name of a faction. He's had that he's had a, it was another faction right before that too. And
I can't remember the name of it, but he just keeps doing, he keeps creating these factions.
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Oh, like something circle golden circle. I don't know. Whatever. But he keeps her inner circle.
Thank you. In a circle. Yeah. He keeps making them. There was like the inner circle. Now there's the
uh, learning tree and in between that there was something else. I don't know. I think that's his
thing these days. He just wants a group and she's not working out. I don't feel like it's really
working out in a UW those groups. Yeah. Stables as a whole are not working out over there. No, not at
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all. I think there's too much of an abundance of them. Yep. Everyone's in a stable. Yeah. I see all
these stables and like, what stable is this one now? I've never heard of this one. I know they're
all over places. They all have to have like a little click or something. It's whatever the click.
Yeah. The click. There's another stable I've just mentioned. You accidentally answered. Exactly. So
yeah, as I'm watching this, I noticed that they had kiss in the soundtrack. Yeah. I'm like, dude,
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that's gotta be some big money right there. Someone had to bankroll that shit. I think not cheap for
anything. Well, Jericho is good friends with, uh, with I think all of them. See that makes sense. If
he's like, you know, go something like, Hey, can I throw on a kiss song on this movie? And they're
probably like, Oh yeah, sure. Pass $40,000 or whatever. Yeah. Whatever, whatever the case is,
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like there's no shot that an indie film would have got a kiss song if it wasn't for Chris Jericho.
That's what I'm thinking, man. It's a small film. It's an indie film. There's not a lot of budget
to it. I'm sure probably like a credible amount. I wouldn't say anything crazy, but to afford kiss
in the soundtrack for an indie film kind of big deal. So we get to introduce to all these characters
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and then the promoter, he gets word from this other company where we eventually see that Jericho
owns or, or it's hiring them to go to gets offered $50,000 to go there. And the guy's like,
I'm going to be rich. I'm thinking to myself, that's not a lot of money. And then again,
I was thinking to myself, I could use $50,000 right about now. Yeah. But 50 K sounds good,
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but they're splitting it between everyone. Yeah. But knowing him, he probably would have like
pocketed 40,000 and been like, we're splitting 10,000 tonight. And everyone's like, fuck yeah,
I get like a 500 bucks. Yeah. Splitting 10,000 between like five people. Yeah. Which is not bad.
Right. But that 10,000 between five people, that's 2000 each. That's a good night.
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The lot of wrestlers could dream of having that kind of money. Most of the time they get paid in
a peanut butter sandwich or something. 25 bucks in a PB and J. Yep. Exactly.
A handshake in a PBJ with no bread. So just peanut and peanut butter and jelly, no bread.
They can't afford it. It's not in the budget. So yeah, as they're walking through, like they're
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partying, things are going haywire. People are getting real fucked up. Me and Joe lean,
he gets real fucked up, but he sees some fuckery happening because he knows Chris Jericho. He knows
who he is. He's familiar with his character and no one was ready to listen to him yet. They're all
partying. They're just like, whatever, man, it's fine. We're having a good time. It's going to be
good. Blah, blah, blah. And he seems like he's the one that's just really trying to warn people that
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a lot of shit is going to go down. We have to be careful. We have to get out of here,
but no one was hearing it. Everyone heard money. They're getting paid. No, like we're going to
stick around. Little do they know later on these matches, these gimmick matches that they're
involved in are completely absurd. But also I want to say something real quick. I was turned off the
fucking movie when a person said French fried. I'm like, want French fried? I'm like, what the
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fuck is that? Isn't it? Does it take place in America? Like, is that a thing somewhere else?
I don't know. Um, cause I heard it too. When I was like, what? Oh yeah. I was like, what is this shit?
It's French fries. You're in America. It's an American thing to say it's hamburger is French
fries. No French fried with the D. Yeah. I'm only going to say it that way from now on. A French
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fried. I don't know, man. Maybe when you melt into your couch, you can call it French fried.
Yeah. You see, but I'm French fried when I'm fucking like on the couch,
just fucking molten lava. I have to have it a bunch of Eddie's
just sinking, dude. I don't care. I love it. Sometimes I wonder if I can take an Eddie because
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when I take Eddie's, I want to take a bunch, right? I just want to fucking take a bunch,
sit on the couch, fucking turn into leather. Uh, and that's it. Like I want to just mold
into the couch. What's stopping you from doing that? I mean, there isn't much, but I don't want
to be like fucked up going to bed because I had a bad experience in Vegas about being fucked up on
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Eddie's and going to bed. You rapid fire dream ever rapid fire dream I have. It's fucking nightmare
material, man. You just fall asleep for 30 seconds. It has to be 30 seconds and you have a full blown
scenario in your head. It's like, uh, that movie with fucking Leonardo DiCaprio inception. It's
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just like, yeah, it's 30 seconds, but in my dream it's been about four weeks of chaos and now I'm
awake. Yeah. You're not going back to sleep after that one. No, no. And that kept happening when I
was in Vegas. It happened multiple times and I had to walk around 3 AM just to kind of fucking
shake it off. Oh really? Did you go walk the strip? Yeah, I walked the strip and I just looked at the
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lights and, uh, I don't know, just got some air and I was good to go after a little bit, but I
had to walk about an hour just to fucking shake it off. Steve walking around the streets of Vegas,
losing his mind is hilarious. By myself, by myself, by the way, no one's with me. That was,
yeah, that was pretty scary because I took 60 milligrams. Oh my God. Don't they say to take
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like five, 10 max? Yes. Okay. So I took six times the amount because I didn't know how much to take.
Well, blaming other people for not answering me. You learn any friends who know the whole spiel of
what to do. I'm like, Hey, how many of these should I take? No one's fucking picking up.
Like I'll take all of them. I guess I'm just going to take the whole pack.
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I take the whole pack and, um, I'm like, I don't feel anything. And this is like an hour after
taking them. I'm thinking that maybe I have such a high tolerance that nothing doesn't do it for me.
And that's when I was like, all right, I'm just going to go to bed. I go to bed and then I'm like,
Oh, I just kind of rose up from the bed, like a fucking Dracula or something. And, and was like,
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Whoa, like just everything was fucking pulsing and slow motion. I'm like, this is not good.
I tried to go back to bed and just rapid fire, dreaming over and over and over.
Were you in the flamingo? Is that when you were there? Oh yeah. How many floors up were you?
Cause that building's big. We were just there. So I was, I had to have been 10 floors up.
How the hell did you function? Dude, I don't know. Going down to an elevator,
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10 floors and then walking through that gigantic lobby. I have no idea. I was a hot mess, man.
An absolute hot mess trying to get to the fucking elevators. I remember just like trying to even
function. Luckily everyone in Vegas pretty much fucked up for the most part anyway. Yeah.
I go in the sun's out. Yeah. When the sun's out. Exactly. Well, just all the time fucked up. So I
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blended in real nice. Were the streets popping at that time of night or morning? Yeah, they were.
Yeah. They've still poppin' for sure. Really? Yeah. I mean, late at night,
Vegas is a 24 hour place, man. Oh yeah. Everyone's always up all hours of the night. Yeah. So we're
going off topic. Doesn't mean the movie's bad by any means. So did you think Korn was playing
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when Word Up started playing? Oh God. So I did not know until this movie that that's a cover.
You didn't know that? No. Really? I did not. No shit. Because I'm thinking here, I'm like,
holy shit, they played Kiss. Now they're playing Korn. I'm like, they spent some money on this
movie. Hey, we're getting our Korn reference in today too. Yeah, that's right. I didn't even
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think of that. This happens every week. Every week, man. Every week. So yeah, I knew it was a cover
and I knew it was a cover because when they did cover it, it was on their greatest hits deal.
I didn't like it. And I was like, I don't like this. I'm not listening to this greatest hits
at all. I'm just going to listen to their albums because that was on there and I just couldn't do
it. For some reason I could not do it. They do some pretty decent covers though. They've got like
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one by Metallica and all this stuff. Yeah. I liked a Pink Floyd one. I don't even think I've
listened to the Pink Floyd one. I'll have to look that up later. And didn't he do a Pink Floyd song?
You know, it wouldn't surprise me, man. At all. Yeah. Another Brick in the Wall. Oh yes. That one.
Okay. I do know that one. Yeah. That's a good one too. Okay. I'm glad I didn't fucking botch
my corn knowledge there because I would have just... No, you didn't. I would have ended it.
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Yeah. I got some pretty solid corn knowledge. For some reason it just wasn't resonating with me.
But as soon as you said it, I'm like, yep. Okay. Now I know. Yeah. You know what I mean? It starts
the same way. So that's why I picked up on it. I'm like, holy shit. It's word up. Yeah. Exactly.
So all right. Back to the movie. They're at this party scene. All these girls are trying to hook
up with the wrestlers. Dude, immediately. I know this is a culty thing. It just reeks of cult.
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And people are drinking this fucking Kool-Aid type shit and just getting fucked up. And all the girls
are trying to hook up with the guy wrestlers. And I'm thinking, is this another Midsommar deal
where they bring in people and the guys get the girls pregnant in the cult and that's how they
build their cult up? But no, I guess that didn't happen. But that's immediately what I was thinking
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when I was starting to see some of this shit. But there were a lot of fun stuff about this movie.
We had this mask dresser guy. What was his name again? Enigma. Enigma. Yes. That dude never broke
character except for one part. I love that. Yeah. That was a good part where he broke K-Fabe.
Essentially he broke K-Fabe just to say one little thing about him never breaking K-Fabe.
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And that's all he needed to do. Other than that, he was just quiet the whole movie. He had,
must have been, I don't break K-Fabe. So four words, the whole entire movie. Did he? No,
I think he only said K-Fabe at the end. Just K-Fabe? I think that's the, yeah, he only said that.
Which is one word. Yeah. He was dying and he goes K-Fabe.
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Well, you said K-Fabe. Okay. K-Fabe when he's dying, where Mischief went into that room,
like they were escaping that green room. By the way, I was kind of thinking this was like
a green room scenario. Have you ever seen that movie? Green room. That's the one with the band,
right? Yeah. The band being locked in the green room and they're in a biker bar where it's more
like a Nazi bar or Nazi club, I should say. And they're just stuck in there. This kind of reminded
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me of that because they're stuck in this green room and the door's locked and they can't escape,
but they find this little hole in the wall that the promoter and the misbehave, she ends up,
well, they both end up leaving and Mean Jolene decides to stay behind because he wants to fight
Jericho. But what I didn't talk about is the gimmick matches, man. Let's talk about the
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gimmick matches. Yeah, the gimmick matches are awesome. I love the Earth match and the
three second fire match or the inferno match. Yeah. I'm watching the inferno match and I'm
just thinking to myself, there's no way you can even have a match with this. There's like a bonfire
in the middle of the ring and then there's blow torches on all four corners of the posts. Yeah.
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How are you supposed to run the ropes? You can't run the ropes with that. Nope. If you do, you're
just going to bump into the thing in the middle of the ring. Yeah. And then you have like at the
turnbuckles fire flying in. So you have to just stay in one solitary spot as you're having this
match or you just go to the other person, hey, come here real quick. And then they get lit on fire.
Yeah. It did not last long. No, it did not last long at all. So Mismahave and Kate the Great,
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they got into a match and I think this is, well, this is the second time we actually see a sacrifice
happening. The first sacrifice was between, it was a tag match and that was a, was that a wind match?
Right. Yeah. I think it started with wind with the fans blowing in the middle. Right. So the whole
idea was four elements, these gimmick matches. So there was like wind, fire, earth, and was there a
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water match? Yes. There was. Okay. A water match. So yeah, there were like, there was all kinds of
water on the, on the mat. Oh, that's right. You're right. Okay. For some reason I was forgetting
that proportion, but yeah, it's some fucking fifth element type shit. So doing the four elements
and the first match, the wind match, it's a tag match. And there's this fan in the floor.
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Immediately I'm thinking that dude, they're going to just fucking open that thing up and someone's
going to get thrown into it. That's the sacrifice and you know, blood spraying everywhere, but no,
that didn't happen. I love a good old fashioned mulching. Yeah, me too. I enjoy a good mulch,
but no mulch. Instead we got a gnarly throw cut. Yeah. Throw cut was awesome. Yeah. I'm pretty sure
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I've seen, what? I was going to say, I love the blood, the blood splatter when it was shooting up
into the air. Oh, it looked great. It was, cause it was hitting the wind that was blowing up and
it was just blowing the blood across the ring and hitting people in the audience. And yeah,
I thought that looked really cool. Those effects. It was very practical. Now it was fucking gory,
man. Very gory. The way they were cutting the throat almost reminded me of stream. You remember
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that fucking throw cut the barbed wire. Yep. Yeah. The barbed wire. Uh, they didn't use barbed
wire on this one. They use something else, right? But it was either way he was getting like just
throat shredded his blood everywhere. Yeah. I don't know what he used. I don't remember,
but I remember it being very violent. So yeah, they both died. Sacrifice happened, whatever.
Next match, Kate of great versus misbehave. And this was the water match, right? I believe it was.
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Yeah. Cause it was wind, water, earth, and then fire. Fire. Yeah. So they're getting in this match
here and dude, immediately when I heard water, I'm thinking like, Oh, this is going to be an acid
bath or something like this, right? Like acid's going to rain down like acid rain. I thought maybe
we're going to get an electrocution or something. Yeah. I mean, we've seen it before. Uh, we've seen
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all sorts of fucking shit. We've seen death matches where there's been piranhas. Yep. True.
That's fucking nuts. CZW used to do that. Yeah. CZW. How do you get the clients to ones? Scorpions?
That's fucked up, man. If it's the big black scorpions, from what I gather, you don't have to
worry too much. It's the little ones you have to worry about. I, yeah, it was a long time ago.
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Let me see. I'm going to Google it. They've done all sorts of stuff. They've probably done a needle
on a pole match, right? Uh, yeah. Was it like loaded with hepatitis or something? Probably.
Probably. Imagine that being the, like the fucking match. It's a needle. You have to get it and you
have to inject your opponent with hepatitis. That'd be awesome. Do you fucking? That kind of happened
with, remember Nigel McGuinness? Yeah. But it wasn't that. It was just, uh, no, no, Abdul the Butcher.
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That's who I'm thinking. Yeah. Abdul the Butcher, well, he had hepatitis and, or still has it.
And he gave it to whoever he was wrestling. Right. Well, that's the story anyway. Yeah, that's the
story. The way he gave it to him supposedly was via a blade job and the fork that he uses, he
stabbed the other guy with it. And naturally now you're mixing blood and things like that. And the
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other guy's like, I got hepatitis because of him. And then he sued Abdul the Butcher. Dula the Butcher
doesn't really have much. He's no John Cena. You know, he's not making a ton of money. He's probably
get some residuals here and there, but let's be honest. How much is he really making? Did I ever
show you the, um, I have a signed Abdul the Butcher fork. Do you? Yeah. That's sick. You're gonna have
to post that later. Yeah. It's like wrapped in tape. Like he used to wrap his. Oh God. Yeah. I
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feel like I maybe seen it when I was at your house at some point, but you're gonna have to send me a
photo. I will. Yeah. So water match is happening and Kate the great ends up DED dead uppercase dead
via the hands of misbehave, um, misbehave user chain and can't be using that shit, man. Those
aren't like your small ass chains that you would see in, um, I don't know, like wrapping around
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people's hands. These were like these fucking chunky looking things, like the really big ass
chains that you would use the fucking tow car or something big ass fucking chains. So she kills Kate
the grade. And this is where we get our twist that Kate the great is related to the leader. So I gotta
ask, did you have any predictions regarding Kate the great at all? Like that she was going to be
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involved or anything? None whatsoever. Okay. Because somehow I did. Um, yeah, it's my fourth note from
the top. I said, is the big twist going to be Kate the great as part of the cult? How did you know
that? I don't know. I have a stupid ability apparently to predict that type of shit. That's
a pretty good pick. I would never thought that. Yeah. I don't know, man. I don't know why I thought
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it, but I just did. And I wrote it down just to be sure, you know, I had proof. Yeah. So, you know,
it kind of makes sense though, because they kept asking for Kate the great. Yeah. So it's like,
they know her, but then again, they knew all the other wrestlers. So maybe that's where you picked
it up. See, I didn't pick that up as I'm watching it. I'm just like focused on the really bad gimmick
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name of Kate the great. It really bothers you. Yeah. It bothers me. It's lazy writing. So I just
could not get past it. And then Kate the great dies and we find out that's the leader's daughter
and he's pissed. But ultimately the idea here is sacrifices are required and his daughter paid the
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sacrifice. So onto the next match and dude, the next match, the earth match, this was the fun one
because this is your Taipei death match type deal. Dude, I'm like, this is some kickboxer shit.
Yeah. We've seen this before with Axel Rotten and balls Mahoney. Yeah. They did it too back in ECW.
Yeah, dude. I remember that match. You started off so like gentle. I think it was Axel Rotten
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punched balls Mahoney in the, like the arm and you see just blood immediately. Yeah. And then it just
turned into a brawl, like a straight brawl. They're like hitting each other at the same time and there's
blood everywhere. And it was awesome. Yeah. It was awesome. That's basically what happened here
is that this earth match, they have their taped up hands, dipping it in glue, the dipping in glass,
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and then they go wrestle and Enigma dips his hands into the glass. Shit hurts. I'm sure. But then
they start their kickboxer shit. No Tong Pou, no John Claude Van Damme. It's just Enigma and another
wrestler and Enigma dies, he's sacrificed or so we think. He was playing kayfabe. I still don't know
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how he did that because he clearly got stabbed in his stomach. Yeah. He got quite stabbed, like big
ass piece of glass in his stomach. And then he just proceeded to fake die or commit to the bid or do
kayfabe because he had to play the sacrifice. I mean, shit, they probably could have done that
the whole time, right? They all could have just committed to the bit, did their kayfabe, pretend
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they're dead and then sacrifice doesn't go through that type thing. Yeah. Sure. Sure. Why not? It could have been.
So he fake dies and they bring him back. They're like all in this like dirt room where the bodies
are being set up to look almost like a pentagram and they're setting up like these fucking candles
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and stuff. This is clearly ritualistic cult shit, which I'm all about. I love that cult shit. Yeah,
we love cults. Yeah. They're just fucking crazy. They're just wild to read or wild to see. So he fake
dies. At this point, Mean Jolene takes misbehave and the promoter and he finds like this hole in
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the wall and he's just like, go in there and go escape, find help. I got to take care of this.
So he goes and has his match, which is the fire match. And that's over in no time. That's a squash
match. Like you wouldn't believe. They borderline just walked in. The other guy just got set on fire.
It's like, oh, done. Yeah, it was over as soon as it started. That's for sure. Yeah. So squash match
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and now he's going up against the leader, which Chris Jericho at this point. And Chris Jericho is
fucking him up. But as that's happening, Enigma, he actually gets up from his fake death because he
bumps into misbehave is like trying to escape. When she went through that little hole, it actually
led to that area where all those bodies are being set up in that pentagram order. And she wakes him
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up and she's like, I thought you were dead. And he just says, never break K-Fabe. I think that's
what he said. Never break K-Fabe because I wrote it down. He just said K-Fabe. Is it just K-Fabe?
Just K-Fabe? I'm pretty sure it's just K-Fabe. Now we're going to have to go back and watch it.
We're going to have to go back and watch it. Oh, no, no, no. You're right. K-Fabe. That's all he said
because I actually just wrote this down in my notes. I had to go back. So all he said the whole
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time, K-Fabe. That's all he said. Love it. Fuck yeah. Love it. Now that's committing to the bit.
That's just giving K-Fabe away a little bit. But I think you can do that with other wrestlers.
It's the crowd where you can't break character. You have to make sure. You got to make sure it's
believable. Yeah. You have to make sure it's believable because people believe in the character
and they think it's real. Man, they used to think that back in the day, but we're smarter now.
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Yeah. Like you remember when Iron Sheik was a heel back in the day. Yeah. And people used to
literally send him death threats or follow him to the parking lot. Yeah. Yeah. Crazy man. They used
to do all that shit. Tons of death threats. Like Sergeant Slaughter was another one. He got a lot
of death threats because he disowned the United States of America in favor of Saudi Arabia.
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That's right. Yep. You got a lot of trouble for that. And I don't know, WWE was doing those things
where they would get people that were relevant to the times. So if it was the Cold War, they'd have
a heel that was Russian and they would do that shit. So back in those days, they couldn't break
K-Fame. So Jericho at this point is beating the shit out of Mean Jolene, where you would think
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that Mean Jolene, AKA Trevor from Grand Theft Auto V would be beating the shit out of this guy
because Trevor's an animal. I mean, even when you play Grand Theft Auto, you've played it,
right? Grand Theft Auto V? Of course. I played all of them. I love that series. Yeah. The whole
series is great. I can't say they ever beat it though, because I got to that mission with
like the flying RC helicopter plane or something. Do you remember that? Oh, I remember that. I got
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so pissed. I uninstalled the game and I never went back. So yeah. I know which one you're talking
about. That's San Andreas, I believe. Was it? I think so, because I'm fairly certain it was for
PlayStation 2. Okay. Well, I've never finished a Grand Theft Auto game. Oh my God. I don't know,
man. I'm just not really into the open world games. Which is funny because you and I are
literally playing an open world game right now. It's different. It's different. What? How is it
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different? It's just different. Okay. Is it because you're not getting shot at or like a rockets
flying at you or whatever? You know what's funny? For those listening, we're talking about a game
called Throne in Liberty. It's like this new MMO. If you play it, come find us. Yeah. Catch me outside.
I don't know, man. I'm really into that game and typically I don't like grindy games. And yeah,
that one's open world and the world is massive, but I like that you can do stuff with random
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parties and I don't know. Yeah. It's kind of cool. I'm glad I don't have to pay money like fucking
World of Warcraft style. Oh yeah. And that too, it's free. Yeah, it's free. That's the important
thing here is that it's fucking free because if you're going to get into a game like that
with that kind of crazy commitment, cut us a fucking break because Blizzard is making
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ungodly amounts of money right now with World of Warcraft and they always will. They'll make that
money for a very long time. So what I was hoping for one day was a Starcraft online. Never got it.
Dude, Starcraft 2 is still like something I'll go back and play every so often. Yeah, I still do. I
play it occasionally. Love that game. I would love like an open world version of that. I think that
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would be so damn cool. Wouldn't play it. You wouldn't play it? Well, you don't like open
world games unless it's Throne in Liberty. Yep. Fuck them all. Okay then. Fair enough. So it's
just, I don't know. It's just too much to do. I want to play like a just like a linear game.
Well, play Carrion then. I did. I downloaded it last night actually because it's on Game Pass now.
Oh, sick. Dude, you're going to fucking love it. Play it on a computer though. Yeah, of course.
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Yeah, that game. I beat it last night. So that was the second time I beat it,
but I'm going to go back again and because I'm missing two achievements.
Okay. I started Ninja Gaiden in Black 2 last, well restarted it. The remastered one. Oh,
it's remastered. Okay. Just came out like last week. It's on Game Pass for free. Oh shit. Okay.
I have to either get an Xbox Series S or just start downloading shit on my computer like crazy.
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I got a new computer so I could play the new Indiana Jones game.
Fair enough. That's a good idea. So yeah, let's get back into it though.
God damn. I know. We're fucking going on. It's like the 10th time we rambled.
I know. We keep rambling, man. So yeah, me and Jolene is fighting Chris Jericho at this point.
Misbehave actually goes in the ring and beats the shit out of Jericho, ends up fighting him
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and stabs him and that's the final sacrifice if you want to think of it that way. So he gets
sacrificed in the ring. They leave the place is on fire because they lit shit on fire, I guess.
And I love the comment by the promoter of their company. And it's like, I told you it was going
to be a barn burner. I'm like, nice little zinger before the goblin show is up. Yeah. Oh man. Dude,
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I laughed out loud when that thing showed up. Unnecessary, but I get why they did it. Yeah,
but it like, it literally, it just derailed all my excitement. Like fuck. Yeah. Yeah. I couldn't.
Nope. Nope. Hated the ending. Sometimes you have these movies and they're good. And then all of a
sudden this one thing that happens at the end that fucking tarnishes the whole movie. It's like,
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okay, now this is fucking cheesy. That's what happened to me. Yeah. For me, like, and it's not
a big one, but it's definitely insidious. Insidious as a whole is really good. And then at the end,
you have that very last jump scare. It's like, come on, really? It just makes it cheesy when
that could have ended perfectly without the last scare from that fucking entity. Yeah. Now I agree
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with that. Yeah. Sometimes you just, it's less is more kind of thing. I'm a big fan of less is more
in movies. If you can pull off the movie really well with less, why add more? Just because you
have the ability to add more doesn't mean you should. And I think this is one of the cases in
this movie. Everything else was good. And then as soon as the demon shows up, like the fucking,
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the ground is splitting. And then we have this fucking half demon, half centaur looking thing
coming out of the ground and misbehave. She's like, okay, not gonna break K-Fave. I'm going
to beat the shit out of him with my chain. She's going to fight a demon. She's going to fight a
demon. And I'm immediately thinking dark match to wrestler versus demons. Yeah. They kind of set it
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up for a sequel. I think it is kind of set up for a sequel. Maybe like the whole world gets dominated
type deal. The wrestlers need to like maybe fight the demons in wrestling matches in order to take
back the land. I don't know. I can write it. Just let me know. I'll fucking set the whole thing up
and just, I just want to be part of a movie. Just put me in a movie. I'll be a hot tug vendor who
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dies at the hands of a demon or some shit. Okay. I don't even need to have a name. Just be hot
tag vendor. Lowell Dean is listening to this episode and he's going to cast you in the sequel
to dark match. All right. Imagine if like the world's gone to shit. There's fire everywhere,
destruction. And then there's a little old me who's like, people need to eat. So I've got my hot
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dog vendor deal set up. Oh no. That seems like a very Steve thing. It is a pretty Steve thing to do.
I just walk around because this is all going to be wrestling matches to fight the demons and take
back the world from whatever demon, like Satan or something. So misbehave has to fight Satan later
on. Who knows? And I'm just walking around with my little box of hot dogs and cracker jacks and
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just be like hot dogs, cracker jacks. Are you at a baseball game or are you in hell? I'm in hell
slash a wrestling match outside. So I don't know. It's silly, but I think it'd be funny.
Don't forget the frozen lemonades. Oh, of course not, dude. Always. And I won't fuck around with
that. I'll pour like vodka in it. If like you want to pay the upcharge. I'm like, no, I'm not
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paying for extra for it. Oh fuck. Fuck you then. Yeah. We see this demon and the CGI is fine.
They spent the budget on Chris Jericho. Yeah, exactly. It's been most of the budget on Jericho
and maybe that kiss song. So, yeah, I don't know. I think we could get into it though, Corey. What
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do you give dark match? This gets a three out of five for me. I was excited about another wrestling
themed horror movie, but this one was just okay at best. I didn't hate it, but the story really
didn't make any sense. The acting was mediocre. And again, the ending ruined most of any enjoyment
I had for this film. Yeah, I could see that. I kind of felt the same way. So for me, same thing.
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I'm going to go with three out of five as well. It was a fun movie. If you're a wrestling fan,
acting was for the most part fine. The gimmick matches I could see being in CZW,
if they had a bigger budget, I wouldn't put it past them because they've done some crazy shit.
Music was fine. Nothing I would go home. I can rave about score wise. The wrestlers names could
have used a little more originality to them as they felt thrown together. I mean, come on, Kate
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the Great. I was ranting about that for most of this podcast. Yeah. You're really upset about this.
Damn. I'm just like, come on, whatever. The demon at the end felt a little silly, but in a way kind
of makes sense because otherwise there would have been a massive plot hole. And the massive
pot hole being that there was a lady who was like his second in command and she didn't die. She just
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got knocked out. She was in on the whole thing. So that had to be tied up. I mean, she could have
been killed early in the film and that would have been fine. That would have covered everything.
But without her summoning the demon, like we wouldn't have known what happened to her. So in
a crazy sense, kind of cleared up a plot hole. I wouldn't say it cleared it up in a good way,
but at least it didn't bring up any additional questions. Yeah. Cause anyone is, if anyone's
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going to catch the plot holes, it's going to be you. Exactly. I will find those pot holes and
I will just be like, what the fuck? So I didn't see any other than that. I will say this, I
probably won't go back and watch it, but I had fun watching it, which is really important. But
if you're interested in watching dark match, it's up for streaming now on shutter. So if you're a
fan of wrestling, I mean, check it out. It's a fun one. All right, everyone, be sure to like,
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going to be talking about is Doc Match. It's written and directed by Lowell Dean starring Aisha
Issa as misbehave, Steven Og as mean Joleen, Mo Aiden as Enigma, Sarah Canning as Kate the Great,
and Krish Jericho as the leader. So there's a good reason why we just name all of those characters
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because they're all pretty pivotal in this movie. But the plot of this movie is a small-time
wrestling company accepts a well-paying gig in a backwards town only to learn too late that the
community is run by a mysterious cult leader with devious plans for their match. But before we get
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Yeah, we have. 30 Screams or Less starts now. Corey, what did you think of Darkmatch?
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So anyone who has listened to us for the past three years knows that we both love horror and
wrestling. So naturally I was really excited to watch this because it combines these two things.
In my personal opinion, Chris Jericho is one of my favorite wrestlers of all time. So that pulled me
into wanting to watch this even more. I thought it was pretty fun and entertaining, but overall,
I just didn't love it. Yeah, I could see that. I had a good time watching it. No real complaints,
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but it's no menu, right? It's no... Well, the last movie we just watched.
Grafted. Grafted. It's not a five out of five movie territory. Like for me, it was like almost...
Don't spoil my rating. What's that?
Don't spoil my rating. Oh, that's right. Shit. You gave it a six out of five. That's right.
So loved it. I mean, I liked it. I thought it was fun because yes, it bridges that gap for pretty
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much our podcasts because obviously we talk horror, but we also talk wrestling because we're part of
the Shining Wizards Network that has a lot of wrestling podcasts. And then obviously we have
our metal stuff, but Jericho's and Fozzy. So we'll consider that metal. It's one of those movies that
has a lot of the elements that would work well with our podcasts for things that we want to talk
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about. And this movie... You know what I loved about this movie, Corey, is that the references
in this movie of like kayfabe and things like that. Yeah. I was like, yeah, okay, you speak in our
language and anyone who's listening to this podcast is going to be like, what the fuck is kayfabe?
Kayfabe is committing to the bit. That's what it is. It has just... Well, that's come up again already, damn.
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Yeah. I mean, you got to throw it in there every fucking episode maybe. And we're going to make a
t-shirt, I assure you. But... What? It says kayfabe? No, commit to the bit. Oh, okay. Yeah. Well,
we can do a kayfabe shirt too. I'm sure that would sell pretty well. But kayfabe is essentially
committed to the bit. So when you're a wrestler, breaking kayfabe is like breaking character. So
you never want to break kayfabe. You always want to be in character. And it's kind of like
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Dominic Mysterio. That dude does not break character. Nope. Never. Ever. Or John Cena.
Or John Cena. John Cena is like the same fucking day in, day out. Yeah. He doesn't break character.
I always have been for 20 years. Yep. Always has been. What's his name too? MJF. Oh yeah. Yeah. Okay.
Yeah. He's always a dick. Yeah. Always a dick. Never breaks character. Shits on his parents.
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Just because. He's just like the, he's like the ultimate heel. He makes kids cry at conventions.
He makes fun of handicapped people. Oh, gee. I saw one where it was like people dressed up as
Macho Man Randy Savage and he walks by and he's like, suck my dick, man.
Yeah. That's awesome. Yeah. Oh, so good. But there was a lot of wrestling references in this movie
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because obviously with the smaller promotions and it being a wrestling based movie, it's talking a
lot of jargon, if you will. So the movie starts off pretty standard, starts off with a wrestling
match. And let me tell you, some of these wrestling names are fucking so thrown together.
So, so briefly though, you talked about the wrestling references, the very beginning of
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the movie where we get that opening promo of all the wrestlers in the promotion,
introducing the roster. I thought that was a really cool touch. Yeah. That was a really cool
touch. And first thing I noticed, me and Jolene, I'm like, is that Trevor from Grand Theft Auto 5?
Did you hear that he wants to come back for GTA 6? Please. No, but did you hear about this?
No, I didn't hear about it. So he said he hopes Trevor is in GTA 6, but only if they kill him in
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the beginning of the game. I see. I could see that happening. Trevor, man, he was like one of the
best parts of Grand Theft Auto 5 because he's just so backwards. Pretty much me and Jolene is Trevor.
They're like one in the same. Yeah. If you look at Trevor and you look at me and Jolene and the way
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he lives his life, it's damn near identical. Yeah. He got to play his character in a movie.
Yeah. Good for him. So yeah, I love Grand Theft Auto 5. I hope he's in Grand Theft Auto 6 and
gets killed in the first few minutes. And then I go, ah, shucks. I just spent $120 on this game.
$120? Oh, because you'd buy the collector's edition? No, I think it's going to be very expensive.
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Oh, okay. Well, we're never going to get it anyways. No. Well, we'll probably get it in like
2026, 2027, 2028. I don't know. Every year for the next 20 years. 29, 30, 31. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
They'll just keep coming out with like new versions of it every year. No, I mean, the base game isn't
even going to come out ever. Oh, the base game ever? No. Dude, they showed the first trailer for
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it in 2023. Oh yeah, that's right. And it's 2025 now. Yeah. They're saying something about 2026.
So imagine dropping the trailer three years in advance. What the hell? Yeah, we're just
rock star things. They do the same shit with Red Dead Redemption. But Red Dead Redemption,
man, was fucking next level. I never finished it. I just got tired of doing the same thing over and
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over again. Just riding a horse. Yeah. Shooting things. I get it, but it's a relaxing game. It
can be. I've been meaning to go back to it because they remastered it for next gen. So. Oh yeah. I've
been meaning to go back to it too, because I have it for Xbox one. So I would just go back and play
it. I don't have it for PlayStation five or anything like that. But I assure you, this is a
horror podcast. There's so many things in this movie that are just hitting all of our fancy bones.
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Fancy bones. It's like tickling our fancy. I didn't want to say tickling, but now here I am.
Yeah, you mean weird. Now I'm being weird. Exactly. Now it's weird. So is it just you with like that
opening match or just me where you could hear them calling the match very loudly? Oh, absolutely.
Yeah. No, you're supposed to really be careful when you're calling matches in wrestling. I think
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that's why a lot of them have long hair. Yeah. I bet. Mouth a little bit. Yep. To hide their mouth
a little bit. It's just easier. I mean, not to mention looks cool, but it's definitely easier
to communicate with other wrestlers. If the hair is over your face and you can just easily talk to
them, but hard to do that for people who are bald. And these girls were just borderline screaming
like, this is the next move. Okay, cool. I know everything that's going to happen now, but
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misbehave just walking in the ring with a fucking chains and she's just swinging that shit around.
It's like, bro, what are you doing? This is not death match. Well, well, I mean, it does turn into
death. Yeah. I mean, it does turn into death match later on, but I mean, we'll get there obviously.
So she hits Kate the great, which by the way, one of the worst wrestling names I've ever heard. It's
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just so basic. Like they could have did something different. I assure you, I could have done it
random name generator and come up with something. I feel like Kate the great is a character from,
do you remember glow? Oh yeah, I do. It sounds like something from that promotion. It might be. I
actually stopped watching that, I think mid season one, there was an episode of my, no, this is
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fucking not for me. This is dumb. I just, I love that show. And then they canceled it after two,
was it two seasons? Something like that. But there was a scene where they're all trying on these new
outfits and they're all being like, I don't know, cutesy, having fun about it. I was like, this is
dumb. I'm done. All right, Steve. Well, they, uh, they apparently missed your, your watch there
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because they got canceled. Exactly. I bet if I watched it, it would have kept going. Yeah.
This is all your fault. I'd like to show a lot. So sorry. Sorry, not sorry. Whatever. Turn me off.
What? Pay me pal. Pay me. So as I'm watching this, I'm like cracking all these jokes.
In my fucking head. I'm like, is this going to be another movie where Chris Jericho has like top
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billing and we don't see him till like after the end credits or he just dies really quick. But no.
Yeah. No, we get the terrifying treatment. Yeah. The terrifying treatment. That's what I was thinking
initially, but no, we got a solid amount of Jericho in this and Jericho plays a cult leader and it was
compelling as a cult leader. I mean, what do you think? I agree. I wrote in my notes here that
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Chris Jericho is a cult leader is something I didn't know I needed in my life. Yeah. It's one
of his other characters. I mean, he's like in the learning tree at the moment, which is kind of
culty, I guess. Yeah. Yeah. Cause he's got people joining him and yeah, but it's still a little weird
name of a faction. He's had that he's had a, it was another faction right before that too. And
I can't remember the name of it, but he just keeps doing, he keeps creating these factions.
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Oh, like something circle golden circle. I don't know. Whatever. But he keeps her inner circle.
Thank you. In a circle. Yeah. He keeps making them. There was like the inner circle. Now there's the
uh, learning tree and in between that there was something else. I don't know. I think that's his
thing these days. He just wants a group and she's not working out. I don't feel like it's really
working out in a UW those groups. Yeah. Stables as a whole are not working out over there. No, not at
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all. I think there's too much of an abundance of them. Yep. Everyone's in a stable. Yeah. I see all
these stables and like, what stable is this one now? I've never heard of this one. I know they're
all over places. They all have to have like a little click or something. It's whatever the click.
Yeah. The click. There's another stable I've just mentioned. You accidentally answered. Exactly. So
yeah, as I'm watching this, I noticed that they had kiss in the soundtrack. Yeah. I'm like, dude,
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that's gotta be some big money right there. Someone had to bankroll that shit. I think not cheap for
anything. Well, Jericho is good friends with, uh, with I think all of them. See that makes sense. If
he's like, you know, go something like, Hey, can I throw on a kiss song on this movie? And they're
probably like, Oh yeah, sure. Pass $40,000 or whatever. Yeah. Whatever, whatever the case is,
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like there's no shot that an indie film would have got a kiss song if it wasn't for Chris Jericho.
That's what I'm thinking, man. It's a small film. It's an indie film. There's not a lot of budget
to it. I'm sure probably like a credible amount. I wouldn't say anything crazy, but to afford kiss
in the soundtrack for an indie film kind of big deal. So we get to introduce to all these characters
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and then the promoter, he gets word from this other company where we eventually see that Jericho
owns or, or it's hiring them to go to gets offered $50,000 to go there. And the guy's like,
I'm going to be rich. I'm thinking to myself, that's not a lot of money. And then again,
I was thinking to myself, I could use $50,000 right about now. Yeah. But 50 K sounds good,
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but they're splitting it between everyone. Yeah. But knowing him, he probably would have like
pocketed 40,000 and been like, we're splitting 10,000 tonight. And everyone's like, fuck yeah,
I get like a 500 bucks. Yeah. Splitting 10,000 between like five people. Yeah. Which is not bad.
Right. But that 10,000 between five people, that's 2000 each. That's a good night.
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The lot of wrestlers could dream of having that kind of money. Most of the time they get paid in
a peanut butter sandwich or something. 25 bucks in a PB and J. Yep. Exactly.
A handshake in a PBJ with no bread. So just peanut and peanut butter and jelly, no bread.
They can't afford it. It's not in the budget. So yeah, as they're walking through, like they're
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partying, things are going haywire. People are getting real fucked up. Me and Joe lean,
he gets real fucked up, but he sees some fuckery happening because he knows Chris Jericho. He knows
who he is. He's familiar with his character and no one was ready to listen to him yet. They're all
partying. They're just like, whatever, man, it's fine. We're having a good time. It's going to be
good. Blah, blah, blah. And he seems like he's the one that's just really trying to warn people that
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a lot of shit is going to go down. We have to be careful. We have to get out of here,
but no one was hearing it. Everyone heard money. They're getting paid. No, like we're going to
stick around. Little do they know later on these matches, these gimmick matches that they're
involved in are completely absurd. But also I want to say something real quick. I was turned off the
fucking movie when a person said French fried. I'm like, want French fried? I'm like, what the
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fuck is that? Isn't it? Does it take place in America? Like, is that a thing somewhere else?
I don't know. Um, cause I heard it too. When I was like, what? Oh yeah. I was like, what is this shit?
It's French fries. You're in America. It's an American thing to say it's hamburger is French
fries. No French fried with the D. Yeah. I'm only going to say it that way from now on. A French
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fried. I don't know, man. Maybe when you melt into your couch, you can call it French fried.
Yeah. You see, but I'm French fried when I'm fucking like on the couch,
just fucking molten lava. I have to have it a bunch of Eddie's
just sinking, dude. I don't care. I love it. Sometimes I wonder if I can take an Eddie because
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when I take Eddie's, I want to take a bunch, right? I just want to fucking take a bunch,
sit on the couch, fucking turn into leather. Uh, and that's it. Like I want to just mold
into the couch. What's stopping you from doing that? I mean, there isn't much, but I don't want
to be like fucked up going to bed because I had a bad experience in Vegas about being fucked up on
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Eddie's and going to bed. You rapid fire dream ever rapid fire dream I have. It's fucking nightmare
material, man. You just fall asleep for 30 seconds. It has to be 30 seconds and you have a full blown
scenario in your head. It's like, uh, that movie with fucking Leonardo DiCaprio inception. It's
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just like, yeah, it's 30 seconds, but in my dream it's been about four weeks of chaos and now I'm
awake. Yeah. You're not going back to sleep after that one. No, no. And that kept happening when I
was in Vegas. It happened multiple times and I had to walk around 3 AM just to kind of fucking
shake it off. Oh really? Did you go walk the strip? Yeah, I walked the strip and I just looked at the
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lights and, uh, I don't know, just got some air and I was good to go after a little bit, but I
had to walk about an hour just to fucking shake it off. Steve walking around the streets of Vegas,
losing his mind is hilarious. By myself, by myself, by the way, no one's with me. That was,
yeah, that was pretty scary because I took 60 milligrams. Oh my God. Don't they say to take
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like five, 10 max? Yes. Okay. So I took six times the amount because I didn't know how much to take.
Well, blaming other people for not answering me. You learn any friends who know the whole spiel of
what to do. I'm like, Hey, how many of these should I take? No one's fucking picking up.
Like I'll take all of them. I guess I'm just going to take the whole pack.
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I take the whole pack and, um, I'm like, I don't feel anything. And this is like an hour after
taking them. I'm thinking that maybe I have such a high tolerance that nothing doesn't do it for me.
And that's when I was like, all right, I'm just going to go to bed. I go to bed and then I'm like,
Oh, I just kind of rose up from the bed, like a fucking Dracula or something. And, and was like,
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Whoa, like just everything was fucking pulsing and slow motion. I'm like, this is not good.
I tried to go back to bed and just rapid fire, dreaming over and over and over.
Were you in the flamingo? Is that when you were there? Oh yeah. How many floors up were you?
Cause that building's big. We were just there. So I was, I had to have been 10 floors up.
How the hell did you function? Dude, I don't know. Going down to an elevator,
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10 floors and then walking through that gigantic lobby. I have no idea. I was a hot mess, man.
An absolute hot mess trying to get to the fucking elevators. I remember just like trying to even
function. Luckily everyone in Vegas pretty much fucked up for the most part anyway. Yeah.
I go in the sun's out. Yeah. When the sun's out. Exactly. Well, just all the time fucked up. So I
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blended in real nice. Were the streets popping at that time of night or morning? Yeah, they were.
Yeah. They've still poppin' for sure. Really? Yeah. I mean, late at night,
Vegas is a 24 hour place, man. Oh yeah. Everyone's always up all hours of the night. Yeah. So we're
going off topic. Doesn't mean the movie's bad by any means. So did you think Korn was playing
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when Word Up started playing? Oh God. So I did not know until this movie that that's a cover.
You didn't know that? No. Really? I did not. No shit. Because I'm thinking here, I'm like,
holy shit, they played Kiss. Now they're playing Korn. I'm like, they spent some money on this
movie. Hey, we're getting our Korn reference in today too. Yeah, that's right. I didn't even
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think of that. This happens every week. Every week, man. Every week. So yeah, I knew it was a cover
and I knew it was a cover because when they did cover it, it was on their greatest hits deal.
I didn't like it. And I was like, I don't like this. I'm not listening to this greatest hits
at all. I'm just going to listen to their albums because that was on there and I just couldn't do
it. For some reason I could not do it. They do some pretty decent covers though. They've got like
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one by Metallica and all this stuff. Yeah. I liked a Pink Floyd one. I don't even think I've
listened to the Pink Floyd one. I'll have to look that up later. And didn't he do a Pink Floyd song?
You know, it wouldn't surprise me, man. At all. Yeah. Another Brick in the Wall. Oh yes. That one.
Okay. I do know that one. Yeah. That's a good one too. Okay. I'm glad I didn't fucking botch
my corn knowledge there because I would have just... No, you didn't. I would have ended it.
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Yeah. I got some pretty solid corn knowledge. For some reason it just wasn't resonating with me.
But as soon as you said it, I'm like, yep. Okay. Now I know. Yeah. You know what I mean? It starts
the same way. So that's why I picked up on it. I'm like, holy shit. It's word up. Yeah. Exactly.
So all right. Back to the movie. They're at this party scene. All these girls are trying to hook
up with the wrestlers. Dude, immediately. I know this is a culty thing. It just reeks of cult.
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And people are drinking this fucking Kool-Aid type shit and just getting fucked up. And all the girls
are trying to hook up with the guy wrestlers. And I'm thinking, is this another Midsommar deal
where they bring in people and the guys get the girls pregnant in the cult and that's how they
build their cult up? But no, I guess that didn't happen. But that's immediately what I was thinking
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when I was starting to see some of this shit. But there were a lot of fun stuff about this movie.
We had this mask dresser guy. What was his name again? Enigma. Enigma. Yes. That dude never broke
character except for one part. I love that. Yeah. That was a good part where he broke K-Fabe.
Essentially he broke K-Fabe just to say one little thing about him never breaking K-Fabe.
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And that's all he needed to do. Other than that, he was just quiet the whole movie. He had,
must have been, I don't break K-Fabe. So four words, the whole entire movie. Did he? No,
I think he only said K-Fabe at the end. Just K-Fabe? I think that's the, yeah, he only said that.
Which is one word. Yeah. He was dying and he goes K-Fabe.
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Well, you said K-Fabe. Okay. K-Fabe when he's dying, where Mischief went into that room,
like they were escaping that green room. By the way, I was kind of thinking this was like
a green room scenario. Have you ever seen that movie? Green room. That's the one with the band,
right? Yeah. The band being locked in the green room and they're in a biker bar where it's more
like a Nazi bar or Nazi club, I should say. And they're just stuck in there. This kind of reminded
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me of that because they're stuck in this green room and the door's locked and they can't escape,
but they find this little hole in the wall that the promoter and the misbehave, she ends up,
well, they both end up leaving and Mean Jolene decides to stay behind because he wants to fight
Jericho. But what I didn't talk about is the gimmick matches, man. Let's talk about the
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gimmick matches. Yeah, the gimmick matches are awesome. I love the Earth match and the
three second fire match or the inferno match. Yeah. I'm watching the inferno match and I'm
just thinking to myself, there's no way you can even have a match with this. There's like a bonfire
in the middle of the ring and then there's blow torches on all four corners of the posts. Yeah.
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How are you supposed to run the ropes? You can't run the ropes with that. Nope. If you do, you're
just going to bump into the thing in the middle of the ring. Yeah. And then you have like at the
turnbuckles fire flying in. So you have to just stay in one solitary spot as you're having this
match or you just go to the other person, hey, come here real quick. And then they get lit on fire.
Yeah. It did not last long. No, it did not last long at all. So Mismahave and Kate the Great,
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they got into a match and I think this is, well, this is the second time we actually see a sacrifice
happening. The first sacrifice was between, it was a tag match and that was a, was that a wind match?
Right. Yeah. I think it started with wind with the fans blowing in the middle. Right. So the whole
idea was four elements, these gimmick matches. So there was like wind, fire, earth, and was there a
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water match? Yes. There was. Okay. A water match. So yeah, there were like, there was all kinds of
water on the, on the mat. Oh, that's right. You're right. Okay. For some reason I was forgetting
that proportion, but yeah, it's some fucking fifth element type shit. So doing the four elements
and the first match, the wind match, it's a tag match. And there's this fan in the floor.
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Immediately I'm thinking that dude, they're going to just fucking open that thing up and someone's
going to get thrown into it. That's the sacrifice and you know, blood spraying everywhere, but no,
that didn't happen. I love a good old fashioned mulching. Yeah, me too. I enjoy a good mulch,
but no mulch. Instead we got a gnarly throw cut. Yeah. Throw cut was awesome. Yeah. I'm pretty sure
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I've seen, what? I was going to say, I love the blood, the blood splatter when it was shooting up
into the air. Oh, it looked great. It was, cause it was hitting the wind that was blowing up and
it was just blowing the blood across the ring and hitting people in the audience. And yeah,
I thought that looked really cool. Those effects. It was very practical. Now it was fucking gory,
man. Very gory. The way they were cutting the throat almost reminded me of stream. You remember
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that fucking throw cut the barbed wire. Yep. Yeah. The barbed wire. Uh, they didn't use barbed
wire on this one. They use something else, right? But it was either way he was getting like just
throat shredded his blood everywhere. Yeah. I don't know what he used. I don't remember,
but I remember it being very violent. So yeah, they both died. Sacrifice happened, whatever.
Next match, Kate of great versus misbehave. And this was the water match, right? I believe it was.
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Yeah. Cause it was wind, water, earth, and then fire. Fire. Yeah. So they're getting in this match
here and dude, immediately when I heard water, I'm thinking like, Oh, this is going to be an acid
bath or something like this, right? Like acid's going to rain down like acid rain. I thought maybe
we're going to get an electrocution or something. Yeah. I mean, we've seen it before. Uh, we've seen
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all sorts of fucking shit. We've seen death matches where there's been piranhas. Yep. True.
That's fucking nuts. CZW used to do that. Yeah. CZW. How do you get the clients to ones? Scorpions?
That's fucked up, man. If it's the big black scorpions, from what I gather, you don't have to
worry too much. It's the little ones you have to worry about. I, yeah, it was a long time ago.
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Let me see. I'm going to Google it. They've done all sorts of stuff. They've probably done a needle
on a pole match, right? Uh, yeah. Was it like loaded with hepatitis or something? Probably.
Probably. Imagine that being the, like the fucking match. It's a needle. You have to get it and you
have to inject your opponent with hepatitis. That'd be awesome. Do you fucking? That kind of happened
with, remember Nigel McGuinness? Yeah. But it wasn't that. It was just, uh, no, no, Abdul the Butcher.
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That's who I'm thinking. Yeah. Abdul the Butcher, well, he had hepatitis and, or still has it.
And he gave it to whoever he was wrestling. Right. Well, that's the story anyway. Yeah, that's the
story. The way he gave it to him supposedly was via a blade job and the fork that he uses, he
stabbed the other guy with it. And naturally now you're mixing blood and things like that. And the
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other guy's like, I got hepatitis because of him. And then he sued Abdul the Butcher. Dula the Butcher
doesn't really have much. He's no John Cena. You know, he's not making a ton of money. He's probably
get some residuals here and there, but let's be honest. How much is he really making? Did I ever
show you the, um, I have a signed Abdul the Butcher fork. Do you? Yeah. That's sick. You're gonna have
to post that later. Yeah. It's like wrapped in tape. Like he used to wrap his. Oh God. Yeah. I
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feel like I maybe seen it when I was at your house at some point, but you're gonna have to send me a
photo. I will. Yeah. So water match is happening and Kate the great ends up DED dead uppercase dead
via the hands of misbehave, um, misbehave user chain and can't be using that shit, man. Those
aren't like your small ass chains that you would see in, um, I don't know, like wrapping around
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people's hands. These were like these fucking chunky looking things, like the really big ass
chains that you would use the fucking tow car or something big ass fucking chains. So she kills Kate
the grade. And this is where we get our twist that Kate the great is related to the leader. So I gotta
ask, did you have any predictions regarding Kate the great at all? Like that she was going to be
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involved or anything? None whatsoever. Okay. Because somehow I did. Um, yeah, it's my fourth note from
the top. I said, is the big twist going to be Kate the great as part of the cult? How did you know
that? I don't know. I have a stupid ability apparently to predict that type of shit. That's
a pretty good pick. I would never thought that. Yeah. I don't know, man. I don't know why I thought
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it, but I just did. And I wrote it down just to be sure, you know, I had proof. Yeah. So, you know,
it kind of makes sense though, because they kept asking for Kate the great. Yeah. So it's like,
they know her, but then again, they knew all the other wrestlers. So maybe that's where you picked
it up. See, I didn't pick that up as I'm watching it. I'm just like focused on the really bad gimmick
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name of Kate the great. It really bothers you. Yeah. It bothers me. It's lazy writing. So I just
could not get past it. And then Kate the great dies and we find out that's the leader's daughter
and he's pissed. But ultimately the idea here is sacrifices are required and his daughter paid the
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sacrifice. So onto the next match and dude, the next match, the earth match, this was the fun one
because this is your Taipei death match type deal. Dude, I'm like, this is some kickboxer shit.
Yeah. We've seen this before with Axel Rotten and balls Mahoney. Yeah. They did it too back in ECW.
Yeah, dude. I remember that match. You started off so like gentle. I think it was Axel Rotten
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punched balls Mahoney in the, like the arm and you see just blood immediately. Yeah. And then it just
turned into a brawl, like a straight brawl. They're like hitting each other at the same time and there's
blood everywhere. And it was awesome. Yeah. It was awesome. That's basically what happened here
is that this earth match, they have their taped up hands, dipping it in glue, the dipping in glass,
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and then they go wrestle and Enigma dips his hands into the glass. Shit hurts. I'm sure. But then
they start their kickboxer shit. No Tong Pou, no John Claude Van Damme. It's just Enigma and another
wrestler and Enigma dies, he's sacrificed or so we think. He was playing kayfabe. I still don't know
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how he did that because he clearly got stabbed in his stomach. Yeah. He got quite stabbed, like big
ass piece of glass in his stomach. And then he just proceeded to fake die or commit to the bid or do
kayfabe because he had to play the sacrifice. I mean, shit, they probably could have done that
the whole time, right? They all could have just committed to the bit, did their kayfabe, pretend
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they're dead and then sacrifice doesn't go through that type thing. Yeah. Sure. Sure. Why not? It could have been.
So he fake dies and they bring him back. They're like all in this like dirt room where the bodies
are being set up to look almost like a pentagram and they're setting up like these fucking candles
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and stuff. This is clearly ritualistic cult shit, which I'm all about. I love that cult shit. Yeah,
we love cults. Yeah. They're just fucking crazy. They're just wild to read or wild to see. So he fake
dies. At this point, Mean Jolene takes misbehave and the promoter and he finds like this hole in
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the wall and he's just like, go in there and go escape, find help. I got to take care of this.
So he goes and has his match, which is the fire match. And that's over in no time. That's a squash
match. Like you wouldn't believe. They borderline just walked in. The other guy just got set on fire.
It's like, oh, done. Yeah, it was over as soon as it started. That's for sure. Yeah. So squash match
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and now he's going up against the leader, which Chris Jericho at this point. And Chris Jericho is
fucking him up. But as that's happening, Enigma, he actually gets up from his fake death because he
bumps into misbehave is like trying to escape. When she went through that little hole, it actually
led to that area where all those bodies are being set up in that pentagram order. And she wakes him
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up and she's like, I thought you were dead. And he just says, never break K-Fabe. I think that's
what he said. Never break K-Fabe because I wrote it down. He just said K-Fabe. Is it just K-Fabe?
Just K-Fabe? I'm pretty sure it's just K-Fabe. Now we're going to have to go back and watch it.
We're going to have to go back and watch it. Oh, no, no, no. You're right. K-Fabe. That's all he said
because I actually just wrote this down in my notes. I had to go back. So all he said the whole
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time, K-Fabe. That's all he said. Love it. Fuck yeah. Love it. Now that's committing to the bit.
That's just giving K-Fabe away a little bit. But I think you can do that with other wrestlers.
It's the crowd where you can't break character. You have to make sure. You got to make sure it's
believable. Yeah. You have to make sure it's believable because people believe in the character
and they think it's real. Man, they used to think that back in the day, but we're smarter now.
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Yeah. Like you remember when Iron Sheik was a heel back in the day. Yeah. And people used to
literally send him death threats or follow him to the parking lot. Yeah. Yeah. Crazy man. They used
to do all that shit. Tons of death threats. Like Sergeant Slaughter was another one. He got a lot
of death threats because he disowned the United States of America in favor of Saudi Arabia.
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That's right. Yep. You got a lot of trouble for that. And I don't know, WWE was doing those things
where they would get people that were relevant to the times. So if it was the Cold War, they'd have
a heel that was Russian and they would do that shit. So back in those days, they couldn't break
K-Fame. So Jericho at this point is beating the shit out of Mean Jolene, where you would think
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that Mean Jolene, AKA Trevor from Grand Theft Auto V would be beating the shit out of this guy
because Trevor's an animal. I mean, even when you play Grand Theft Auto, you've played it,
right? Grand Theft Auto V? Of course. I played all of them. I love that series. Yeah. The whole
series is great. I can't say they ever beat it though, because I got to that mission with
like the flying RC helicopter plane or something. Do you remember that? Oh, I remember that. I got
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so pissed. I uninstalled the game and I never went back. So yeah. I know which one you're talking
about. That's San Andreas, I believe. Was it? I think so, because I'm fairly certain it was for
PlayStation 2. Okay. Well, I've never finished a Grand Theft Auto game. Oh my God. I don't know,
man. I'm just not really into the open world games. Which is funny because you and I are
literally playing an open world game right now. It's different. It's different. What? How is it
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different? It's just different. Okay. Is it because you're not getting shot at or like a rockets
flying at you or whatever? You know what's funny? For those listening, we're talking about a game
called Throne in Liberty. It's like this new MMO. If you play it, come find us. Yeah. Catch me outside.
I don't know, man. I'm really into that game and typically I don't like grindy games. And yeah,
that one's open world and the world is massive, but I like that you can do stuff with random
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parties and I don't know. Yeah. It's kind of cool. I'm glad I don't have to pay money like fucking
World of Warcraft style. Oh yeah. And that too, it's free. Yeah, it's free. That's the important
thing here is that it's fucking free because if you're going to get into a game like that
with that kind of crazy commitment, cut us a fucking break because Blizzard is making
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ungodly amounts of money right now with World of Warcraft and they always will. They'll make that
money for a very long time. So what I was hoping for one day was a Starcraft online. Never got it.
Dude, Starcraft 2 is still like something I'll go back and play every so often. Yeah, I still do. I
play it occasionally. Love that game. I would love like an open world version of that. I think that
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would be so damn cool. Wouldn't play it. You wouldn't play it? Well, you don't like open
world games unless it's Throne in Liberty. Yep. Fuck them all. Okay then. Fair enough. So it's
just, I don't know. It's just too much to do. I want to play like a just like a linear game.
Well, play Carrion then. I did. I downloaded it last night actually because it's on Game Pass now.
Oh, sick. Dude, you're going to fucking love it. Play it on a computer though. Yeah, of course.
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Yeah, that game. I beat it last night. So that was the second time I beat it,
but I'm going to go back again and because I'm missing two achievements.
Okay. I started Ninja Gaiden in Black 2 last, well restarted it. The remastered one. Oh,
it's remastered. Okay. Just came out like last week. It's on Game Pass for free. Oh shit. Okay.
I have to either get an Xbox Series S or just start downloading shit on my computer like crazy.
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I got a new computer so I could play the new Indiana Jones game.
Fair enough. That's a good idea. So yeah, let's get back into it though.
God damn. I know. We're fucking going on. It's like the 10th time we rambled.
I know. We keep rambling, man. So yeah, me and Jolene is fighting Chris Jericho at this point.
Misbehave actually goes in the ring and beats the shit out of Jericho, ends up fighting him
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and stabs him and that's the final sacrifice if you want to think of it that way. So he gets
sacrificed in the ring. They leave the place is on fire because they lit shit on fire, I guess.
And I love the comment by the promoter of their company. And it's like, I told you it was going
to be a barn burner. I'm like, nice little zinger before the goblin show is up. Yeah. Oh man. Dude,
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I laughed out loud when that thing showed up. Unnecessary, but I get why they did it. Yeah,
but it like, it literally, it just derailed all my excitement. Like fuck. Yeah. Yeah. I couldn't.
Nope. Nope. Hated the ending. Sometimes you have these movies and they're good. And then all of a
sudden this one thing that happens at the end that fucking tarnishes the whole movie. It's like,
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okay, now this is fucking cheesy. That's what happened to me. Yeah. For me, like, and it's not
a big one, but it's definitely insidious. Insidious as a whole is really good. And then at the end,
you have that very last jump scare. It's like, come on, really? It just makes it cheesy when
that could have ended perfectly without the last scare from that fucking entity. Yeah. Now I agree
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with that. Yeah. Sometimes you just, it's less is more kind of thing. I'm a big fan of less is more
in movies. If you can pull off the movie really well with less, why add more? Just because you
have the ability to add more doesn't mean you should. And I think this is one of the cases in
this movie. Everything else was good. And then as soon as the demon shows up, like the fucking,
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the ground is splitting. And then we have this fucking half demon, half centaur looking thing
coming out of the ground and misbehave. She's like, okay, not gonna break K-Fave. I'm going
to beat the shit out of him with my chain. She's going to fight a demon. She's going to fight a
demon. And I'm immediately thinking dark match to wrestler versus demons. Yeah. They kind of set it
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up for a sequel. I think it is kind of set up for a sequel. Maybe like the whole world gets dominated
type deal. The wrestlers need to like maybe fight the demons in wrestling matches in order to take
back the land. I don't know. I can write it. Just let me know. I'll fucking set the whole thing up
and just, I just want to be part of a movie. Just put me in a movie. I'll be a hot tug vendor who
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dies at the hands of a demon or some shit. Okay. I don't even need to have a name. Just be hot
tag vendor. Lowell Dean is listening to this episode and he's going to cast you in the sequel
to dark match. All right. Imagine if like the world's gone to shit. There's fire everywhere,
destruction. And then there's a little old me who's like, people need to eat. So I've got my hot
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dog vendor deal set up. Oh no. That seems like a very Steve thing. It is a pretty Steve thing to do.
I just walk around because this is all going to be wrestling matches to fight the demons and take
back the world from whatever demon, like Satan or something. So misbehave has to fight Satan later
on. Who knows? And I'm just walking around with my little box of hot dogs and cracker jacks and
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just be like hot dogs, cracker jacks. Are you at a baseball game or are you in hell? I'm in hell
slash a wrestling match outside. So I don't know. It's silly, but I think it'd be funny.
Don't forget the frozen lemonades. Oh, of course not, dude. Always. And I won't fuck around with
that. I'll pour like vodka in it. If like you want to pay the upcharge. I'm like, no, I'm not
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paying for extra for it. Oh fuck. Fuck you then. Yeah. We see this demon and the CGI is fine.
They spent the budget on Chris Jericho. Yeah, exactly. It's been most of the budget on Jericho
and maybe that kiss song. So, yeah, I don't know. I think we could get into it though, Corey. What
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do you give dark match? This gets a three out of five for me. I was excited about another wrestling
themed horror movie, but this one was just okay at best. I didn't hate it, but the story really
didn't make any sense. The acting was mediocre. And again, the ending ruined most of any enjoyment
I had for this film. Yeah, I could see that. I kind of felt the same way. So for me, same thing.
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I'm going to go with three out of five as well. It was a fun movie. If you're a wrestling fan,
acting was for the most part fine. The gimmick matches I could see being in CZW,
if they had a bigger budget, I wouldn't put it past them because they've done some crazy shit.
Music was fine. Nothing I would go home. I can rave about score wise. The wrestlers names could
have used a little more originality to them as they felt thrown together. I mean, come on, Kate
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the Great. I was ranting about that for most of this podcast. Yeah. You're really upset about this.
Damn. I'm just like, come on, whatever. The demon at the end felt a little silly, but in a way kind
of makes sense because otherwise there would have been a massive plot hole. And the massive
pot hole being that there was a lady who was like his second in command and she didn't die. She just
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got knocked out. She was in on the whole thing. So that had to be tied up. I mean, she could have
been killed early in the film and that would have been fine. That would have covered everything.
But without her summoning the demon, like we wouldn't have known what happened to her. So in
a crazy sense, kind of cleared up a plot hole. I wouldn't say it cleared it up in a good way,
but at least it didn't bring up any additional questions. Yeah. Cause anyone is, if anyone's
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going to catch the plot holes, it's going to be you. Exactly. I will find those pot holes and
I will just be like, what the fuck? So I didn't see any other than that. I will say this, I
probably won't go back and watch it, but I had fun watching it, which is really important. But
if you're interested in watching dark match, it's up for streaming now on shutter. So if you're a
fan of wrestling, I mean, check it out. It's a fun one. All right, everyone, be sure to like,
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