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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We know that Parliament resumes in the Northern Territory this
morning and standing orders are set to be suspended to
allow the debate of the petition Justice for Declan Lavity.
There's no doubt that there's going to be a lot
of emotion in the room. Family and friends of Declan
are expected to attend Parliament and here that debate happen.
There's no doubt the government's going to be keen to
(00:21):
focus on the changes that they've implemented following the deaths
of the bottle shop worker. Now late yesterday we learned
a bit more detail of the government's new knife crime strategy,
but much like the review into the bar legislation, many
are wondering if the changes go far enough. Joining me
on the line right now is the Attorney General, Chancey Paig.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Good morning to.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
You, Minister Morning Katie Now.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Attorney General first up this morning, can you tell me
what the analysis of knife crime data conducted in recent
weeks as part of this body of work demonstrated or showed.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Yes, certainly so. The data and the evidence are used
to develop this strategy. Was Attorney General Injustice and Northern
Territory Police data that helped us make the informed strategy position,
and that looks at a whole range of recommendations that
we believe, being enforced, we'll see a reduction in knife
(01:17):
crime across the territory. Now, when we look at the statistics,
what that review highlighted is that just under fifty percent
of all knife crime in the territory is domestic and
family violence. So it does also highlight the need for
us to be advocating for that needs based funding here
in the territory.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
So what does the other you know, more than fifty
percent account for?
Speaker 2 (01:41):
What kind of incidents?
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Yeah, so look, all of the incidences that do happen
through knife crime are a range of options. As I said,
around fifty percent or just under is incidences that do
occur as a result of domestic and family violence in
the homes. The other percent looks of course that is happening,
whether it's rough sleepers, young people, a whole range of areas.
(02:06):
So certainly, this strategy, the knife crime prevention strategy, looks
at how we can address that through a range of measures.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Okay, who was consulted on then when you look at
the measures that are going to be implemented.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Yes, so certainly, again This strategy was developed by the
Northern Territory government, so Attorney General and Justice, Police, Health, Education,
Territory Families and Chief Minister and Cabinet. And that was
using the data that was available by Attorney General and
Justice Department and the Northern Territory Police.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
So all government departments.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Was anybody in the private sector or any of victims
of crime consulted?
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Certainly, this strategy that was released yesterday now enables the
government to go and work with our stakeholders, whether they
are retail, hospitality, the Aboriginal community controlled sectors, are victims
of crime, community and our general community. Wouldn't you consult
with them spectations?
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Lolock, wouldn't you consult with them beforehand to see whether
they feel as though it's going to go far enough?
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Well, Katie, as I've made it clear time and time again,
I am an evidence based Attorney General. The evidence is
telling us that these are the areas that we needed
to do work in. That strategy is now being developed
and we work with the community around the implementation on
those recommendations moving forward.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Yeah. Look, I guess what I'm getting to though, is
the government is certainly picking and choosing statistics when you
come through with this legislation. Now, obviously you're at pains
to say that nearly fifty percent of the NiFe related
defenses are indeed domestic violence related defenses, and that is horrendous.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
It's a horrendous figure. There is no other way of
looking at that.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
But you've got more than fifty percent then of these
offenses being committed that aren't domestic violence related. But you're
still calling on the federal government for needs based funding,
which I understand. But what you're sort of announcing is
at odds with what the community's expectations are. And then
you're not actually consulting with industry or anybody that's going
to be impacted.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
No, look, Katie, I disagree with that position. Certainly, we
don't hand pick statistics. The statistics in front of us
don't lie. They are recorded through police and the Attorney
General and Justice Department. And absolutely this strategy highlights a
number of short term and immediate recommendations that will be
(04:23):
implementing and rolling out, and medium term recommendations that will
absolutely be standing up the relevant agencies across government to
deliver on those areas.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Talk us through what these changes are going to be
because I know that we're pressed for time. We've got
ten minutes with you, so talk us through what these
changes are going to be that are going to be immediate.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Yeah, so, certainly, look, the Northern Territory government will be
developing with the hospitality and the retail sector and we'll
be paying for training around de escalations training for people.
Will certainly be working with the hospitality retail sectors to
develop the practice of security for knives and weapons to
(05:04):
prevent crime. And that's also Katie, looking at the landscape
certainly changed and people can take knives off shelves in
supermarkets and go through self checkouts. This is around how
do we minimize the access and availability so that young
people don't have that access. Certainly looking at alternatives for
rough sleepers, the evidence based violence programs for the community
(05:29):
in our schools, working with the police certainly on the
development of that action plan around the prevention of knife
crime in areas that builds on all of the legislative
reform that we have already done to date.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Katie, all right, a few quick ones.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Are knives going to be behind counters from this point on.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Certainly we will be working with hospitality and the retail
sector around that option, and certainly, just as deodorant cans
are behind plastic or glass in shelves, that's something that
we'll be working with the sector on to make sure
that we can minimize as best we can.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
So by the sounds of it, it will be so
like even if you own a kitchen were store in Casurina,
those knives are going to have to go behind a counter, Katie.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
We're not saying that at the moment. We're saying we're
going to go and work with the industry now are
a round of initiatives and options that we can explore
to help them and to help the community so.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
They may or may not go behind counters.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Again, that's what we'll do now that the strategy has
been released is go out work with the sector and
the community to make sure that everyone is clear on
what the options are and that we can deliver on that.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
How is that going to help in a bottle shop?
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Certainly, Katie. Again, this goes to a number of the recommendations.
Is looking at the uniform practice. It's looking at how
we can do the de escalation, the safety training for
retail and hospitality workers as part of their employment. Again,
This builds on the legislation we have brought in around
the police stop and search powers, around the Weapons Control Act,
(07:05):
and certainly that presumption against bail for all violent offenses
involving a weapon that we have brought in.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
At Tony General.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Why hasn't that de escalation training all ready started? I mean,
this is something that you guys had flagged months ago.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Yeah. Look, when we talk about the de escalation training,
we also must be acutely aware that different situations and
different environments will require a different response and a different
de escalation techniques, and that's what we'll be working for
as the government. We have made it clear that that's
training that we will be paying for across the sector
(07:40):
to help people with that option.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
How much money are you going to be investing into that?
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Look, we will invest as much money as needed to
make sure that we have rolling training for our retail
and hospitality workers and any other worker in that space
who needs access to that de escalation training.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
So we haven't got to figure it's attached to that yet.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
We have said we've made the commitment that we'll have
the rolling rounds around the de escalation training, and that's
a commitment that we're standing by.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Okay, how are you going to deliver education programs to
young people when some of those involved, and I will
say again some of those involved are already disengaged in
the education system. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Certainly, we've made it clear that our commitment around this
education and training piece is certainly to be rolled out
across all Northern Territory schools and certainly where it is
our facility youth justice facilities across the territory, we will
give it every opportunity to provide the training everywhere we can.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Okay, Tony General, A lot of what you're saying this
morning's going to be at odds with victims of crime
on the weekend. For example, I spoke to a woman
who had somebody attempt to break into her home. They
watch that security vision back and the people trying to
get in we're carrying a bit bigmachetti. So how is
this strategy going to prevent incidents like this?
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Well, again, this is a crime prevention strategy, the knife strategy,
and absolutely enables us to work with our hard working
police and with our community around how we better respond
to situations in the wider community. So I am confident
Katie that this strategy will absolutely go to addressing and
delivering in the areas of prevention. And this is not saying, Katie,
(09:30):
by any means that this is the be all and
end all. This is a piece of the wider puzzle
in responding to the community around how we can better
deliver community safety.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Attorney General, Honestly, if this was the bee all and
end all, we'll be in a spot of bother Because
you've just said to me this morning. You know you're
still working through whether the knives are going to be
behind counters. It's not sort of a yes or no
answer on that.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
At the moment.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
We don't know exactly how much money is going to
be invested in terms of the de escalation training, and
we are also in a situation where industry is not
being consulted on it. So I just don't understand how
the government thinks this is going to make a difference.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
That's your view, but you've.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Come out with an announcement that's no money attached to
it or got no figures.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Clear, Katie, if you would just give me the opportunity, I've.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Given you plenty of opportunity to talk it through, but
unfortunately the answers that you're giving are not in line
with the community's expectations.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Attorney General, Well, Katie.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
We have made it clear that we will go out
and work with the sectors on the implementation of this strategy.
We've made it clear, but after the fact we will
be resourcing the adequate training.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
But you can't say how much money we do that training.
But you can't tell us how much money's attached to it, Katie.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
The commitment by this government is absolutely there to provide
every person in those industries with adequate training around de escalations.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
I really hope so, because the community's screaming out for it.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
So I really hope so. And I really really hope
that the.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Announcement that you've made has made a difference or that
it's going to make a difference. But people are feeling
right now, Attorney General, that some of the announcements that
you are making are just not hitting the mark.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
You know.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
The government's saying that obviously the evidence has not shown
the need for further legislative amendments at this stage. And
I understand what you are saying that you want to
go on evidenced based decisions, but it doesn't seem to
be in line with the community's expectations at this.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Point, Katie, again, we have made a number of immediate
legislative changes. We did the presumption against bail for all
violent offenses involving a weapon. We brought in additional powers
for our hard working Northern Territory police stop and search powers.
We changed the Weapons Control Act. I have absolutely said,
(11:54):
and I'll say it again, I am not opposed to
doing a legislative reform, but it needs to be evidence
based that will show us that it will actually make
a difference in our community. And if that can be shown,
absolutely I will make the laws change.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Attorney General, we have got a situation since those last
announcements were made around the bail reform. Ten thousand extra
territorians sign that petition that's going to be debated in
Parliament today. So what I'm trying to get to is
how does the Northern Territory government juggle the expectations and
(12:30):
the calls from the territory community at this point. You know,
with the evidence that you're referring to, and Katie, every.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Day we have to make decisions based on evidence and
we need to make sure that we work those through
the system. Because just responding to things because people think
it's going to work has unintended consequences in the justice system.
We need to make sure that this works. And what
we are doing is it evidence based approach to crime
(12:59):
prevention as well as the legislative reforms that we have made.
And absolutely if the evidence tells us we need to
make additional legislative changes, I will absolutely do that.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Can you guarantee that this is going to see a
reduction in knife related crime?
Speaker 3 (13:15):
The strategy, the knife crime reduction strategy, I am confident
will see a reduction in knife crime because it involves
the Northern Territory government and also it requires us working
with our stakeholders and community organizations to do this as
a community initiative.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
All right, Attorney General, I want to ask we know
that today the debate is going to happen. As I've
touched on just a moment ago into the petition Justice
for Decklan Lavity. My understanding is that things have changed
just slightly this morning with a condolence motion first off,
now for the Marines, is that correct?
Speaker 3 (13:53):
Yeah? Look, Katie, the assembly will kick off this morning
and we'll go through the standard procedures of the Assembly.
The Speaker will obviously take some time this morning to
acknowledge that tragic event that has unfolded over on Melville Island.
Will go through the general commencement of the Assembly and
then yes, we will be having the debate around that petition.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
Do you anticipate that as a result of that debate
with the petition, that there's going to be any further
changes made?
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Well, look, it's an important debate this morning before the
Northern Territory Legislative Assembly. It is an opportunity for all
members of the Assembly to have the opportunity to contribute
to that debate and we certainly welcome that debate and
think it's an important one to have.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Attorney General Chancey Peig appreciate your time this morning.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Thanks very much for speaking to us.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
No worries, mate, Thank you,
We know that Parliament resumes in the Northern Territory this
morning and standing orders are set to be suspended to
allow the debate of the petition Justice for Declan Lavity.
There's no doubt that there's going to be a lot
of emotion in the room. Family and friends of Declan
are expected to attend Parliament and here that debate happen.
There's no doubt the government's going to be keen to
(00:21):
focus on the changes that they've implemented following the deaths
of the bottle shop worker. Now late yesterday we learned
a bit more detail of the government's new knife crime strategy,
but much like the review into the bar legislation, many
are wondering if the changes go far enough. Joining me
on the line right now is the Attorney General, Chancey Paig.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Good morning to.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
You, Minister Morning Katie Now.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Attorney General first up this morning, can you tell me
what the analysis of knife crime data conducted in recent
weeks as part of this body of work demonstrated or showed.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Yes, certainly so. The data and the evidence are used
to develop this strategy. Was Attorney General Injustice and Northern
Territory Police data that helped us make the informed strategy position,
and that looks at a whole range of recommendations that
we believe, being enforced, we'll see a reduction in knife
(01:17):
crime across the territory. Now, when we look at the statistics,
what that review highlighted is that just under fifty percent
of all knife crime in the territory is domestic and
family violence. So it does also highlight the need for
us to be advocating for that needs based funding here
in the territory.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
So what does the other you know, more than fifty
percent account for?
Speaker 2 (01:41):
What kind of incidents?
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Yeah, so look, all of the incidences that do happen
through knife crime are a range of options. As I said,
around fifty percent or just under is incidences that do
occur as a result of domestic and family violence in
the homes. The other percent looks of course that is happening,
whether it's rough sleepers, young people, a whole range of areas.
(02:06):
So certainly, this strategy, the knife crime prevention strategy, looks
at how we can address that through a range of measures.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Okay, who was consulted on then when you look at
the measures that are going to be implemented.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Yes, so certainly, again This strategy was developed by the
Northern Territory government, so Attorney General and Justice, Police, Health, Education,
Territory Families and Chief Minister and Cabinet. And that was
using the data that was available by Attorney General and
Justice Department and the Northern Territory Police.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
So all government departments.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Was anybody in the private sector or any of victims
of crime consulted?
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Certainly, this strategy that was released yesterday now enables the
government to go and work with our stakeholders, whether they
are retail, hospitality, the Aboriginal community controlled sectors, are victims
of crime, community and our general community. Wouldn't you consult
with them spectations?
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Lolock, wouldn't you consult with them beforehand to see whether
they feel as though it's going to go far enough?
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Well, Katie, as I've made it clear time and time again,
I am an evidence based Attorney General. The evidence is
telling us that these are the areas that we needed
to do work in. That strategy is now being developed
and we work with the community around the implementation on
those recommendations moving forward.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Yeah. Look, I guess what I'm getting to though, is
the government is certainly picking and choosing statistics when you
come through with this legislation. Now, obviously you're at pains
to say that nearly fifty percent of the NiFe related
defenses are indeed domestic violence related defenses, and that is horrendous.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
It's a horrendous figure. There is no other way of
looking at that.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
But you've got more than fifty percent then of these
offenses being committed that aren't domestic violence related. But you're
still calling on the federal government for needs based funding,
which I understand. But what you're sort of announcing is
at odds with what the community's expectations are. And then
you're not actually consulting with industry or anybody that's going
to be impacted.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
No, look, Katie, I disagree with that position. Certainly, we
don't hand pick statistics. The statistics in front of us
don't lie. They are recorded through police and the Attorney
General and Justice Department. And absolutely this strategy highlights a
number of short term and immediate recommendations that will be
(04:23):
implementing and rolling out, and medium term recommendations that will
absolutely be standing up the relevant agencies across government to
deliver on those areas.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Talk us through what these changes are going to be
because I know that we're pressed for time. We've got
ten minutes with you, so talk us through what these
changes are going to be that are going to be immediate.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Yeah, so, certainly, look, the Northern Territory government will be
developing with the hospitality and the retail sector and we'll
be paying for training around de escalations training for people.
Will certainly be working with the hospitality retail sectors to
develop the practice of security for knives and weapons to
(05:04):
prevent crime. And that's also Katie, looking at the landscape
certainly changed and people can take knives off shelves in
supermarkets and go through self checkouts. This is around how
do we minimize the access and availability so that young
people don't have that access. Certainly looking at alternatives for
rough sleepers, the evidence based violence programs for the community
(05:29):
in our schools, working with the police certainly on the
development of that action plan around the prevention of knife
crime in areas that builds on all of the legislative
reform that we have already done to date.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Katie, all right, a few quick ones.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Are knives going to be behind counters from this point on.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Certainly we will be working with hospitality and the retail
sector around that option, and certainly, just as deodorant cans
are behind plastic or glass in shelves, that's something that
we'll be working with the sector on to make sure
that we can minimize as best we can.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
So by the sounds of it, it will be so
like even if you own a kitchen were store in Casurina,
those knives are going to have to go behind a counter, Katie.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
We're not saying that at the moment. We're saying we're
going to go and work with the industry now are
a round of initiatives and options that we can explore
to help them and to help the community so.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
They may or may not go behind counters.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Again, that's what we'll do now that the strategy has
been released is go out work with the sector and
the community to make sure that everyone is clear on
what the options are and that we can deliver on that.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
How is that going to help in a bottle shop?
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Certainly, Katie. Again, this goes to a number of the recommendations.
Is looking at the uniform practice. It's looking at how
we can do the de escalation, the safety training for
retail and hospitality workers as part of their employment. Again,
This builds on the legislation we have brought in around
the police stop and search powers, around the Weapons Control Act,
(07:05):
and certainly that presumption against bail for all violent offenses
involving a weapon that we have brought in.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
At Tony General.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Why hasn't that de escalation training all ready started? I mean,
this is something that you guys had flagged months ago.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Yeah. Look, when we talk about the de escalation training,
we also must be acutely aware that different situations and
different environments will require a different response and a different
de escalation techniques, and that's what we'll be working for
as the government. We have made it clear that that's
training that we will be paying for across the sector
(07:40):
to help people with that option.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
How much money are you going to be investing into that?
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Look, we will invest as much money as needed to
make sure that we have rolling training for our retail
and hospitality workers and any other worker in that space
who needs access to that de escalation training.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
So we haven't got to figure it's attached to that yet.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
We have said we've made the commitment that we'll have
the rolling rounds around the de escalation training, and that's
a commitment that we're standing by.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Okay, how are you going to deliver education programs to
young people when some of those involved, and I will
say again some of those involved are already disengaged in
the education system. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Certainly, we've made it clear that our commitment around this
education and training piece is certainly to be rolled out
across all Northern Territory schools and certainly where it is
our facility youth justice facilities across the territory, we will
give it every opportunity to provide the training everywhere we can.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Okay, Tony General, A lot of what you're saying this
morning's going to be at odds with victims of crime
on the weekend. For example, I spoke to a woman
who had somebody attempt to break into her home. They
watch that security vision back and the people trying to
get in we're carrying a bit bigmachetti. So how is
this strategy going to prevent incidents like this?
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Well, again, this is a crime prevention strategy, the knife strategy,
and absolutely enables us to work with our hard working
police and with our community around how we better respond
to situations in the wider community. So I am confident
Katie that this strategy will absolutely go to addressing and
delivering in the areas of prevention. And this is not saying, Katie,
(09:30):
by any means that this is the be all and
end all. This is a piece of the wider puzzle
in responding to the community around how we can better
deliver community safety.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Attorney General, Honestly, if this was the bee all and
end all, we'll be in a spot of bother Because
you've just said to me this morning. You know you're
still working through whether the knives are going to be
behind counters. It's not sort of a yes or no
answer on that.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
At the moment.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
We don't know exactly how much money is going to
be invested in terms of the de escalation training, and
we are also in a situation where industry is not
being consulted on it. So I just don't understand how
the government thinks this is going to make a difference.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
That's your view, but you've.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Come out with an announcement that's no money attached to
it or got no figures.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Clear, Katie, if you would just give me the opportunity, I've.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Given you plenty of opportunity to talk it through, but
unfortunately the answers that you're giving are not in line
with the community's expectations.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Attorney General, Well, Katie.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
We have made it clear that we will go out
and work with the sectors on the implementation of this strategy.
We've made it clear, but after the fact we will
be resourcing the adequate training.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
But you can't say how much money we do that training.
But you can't tell us how much money's attached to it, Katie.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
The commitment by this government is absolutely there to provide
every person in those industries with adequate training around de escalations.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
I really hope so, because the community's screaming out for it.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
So I really hope so. And I really really hope
that the.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Announcement that you've made has made a difference or that
it's going to make a difference. But people are feeling
right now, Attorney General, that some of the announcements that
you are making are just not hitting the mark.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
You know.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
The government's saying that obviously the evidence has not shown
the need for further legislative amendments at this stage. And
I understand what you are saying that you want to
go on evidenced based decisions, but it doesn't seem to
be in line with the community's expectations at this.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Point, Katie, again, we have made a number of immediate
legislative changes. We did the presumption against bail for all
violent offenses involving a weapon. We brought in additional powers
for our hard working Northern Territory police stop and search powers.
We changed the Weapons Control Act. I have absolutely said,
(11:54):
and I'll say it again, I am not opposed to
doing a legislative reform, but it needs to be evidence
based that will show us that it will actually make
a difference in our community. And if that can be shown,
absolutely I will make the laws change.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Attorney General, we have got a situation since those last
announcements were made around the bail reform. Ten thousand extra
territorians sign that petition that's going to be debated in
Parliament today. So what I'm trying to get to is
how does the Northern Territory government juggle the expectations and
(12:30):
the calls from the territory community at this point. You know,
with the evidence that you're referring to, and Katie, every.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Day we have to make decisions based on evidence and
we need to make sure that we work those through
the system. Because just responding to things because people think
it's going to work has unintended consequences in the justice system.
We need to make sure that this works. And what
we are doing is it evidence based approach to crime
(12:59):
prevention as well as the legislative reforms that we have made.
And absolutely if the evidence tells us we need to
make additional legislative changes, I will absolutely do that.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Can you guarantee that this is going to see a
reduction in knife related crime?
Speaker 3 (13:15):
The strategy, the knife crime reduction strategy, I am confident
will see a reduction in knife crime because it involves
the Northern Territory government and also it requires us working
with our stakeholders and community organizations to do this as
a community initiative.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
All right, Attorney General, I want to ask we know
that today the debate is going to happen. As I've
touched on just a moment ago into the petition Justice
for Decklan Lavity. My understanding is that things have changed
just slightly this morning with a condolence motion first off,
now for the Marines, is that correct?
Speaker 3 (13:53):
Yeah? Look, Katie, the assembly will kick off this morning
and we'll go through the standard procedures of the Assembly.
The Speaker will obviously take some time this morning to
acknowledge that tragic event that has unfolded over on Melville Island.
Will go through the general commencement of the Assembly and
then yes, we will be having the debate around that petition.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
Do you anticipate that as a result of that debate
with the petition, that there's going to be any further
changes made?
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Well, look, it's an important debate this morning before the
Northern Territory Legislative Assembly. It is an opportunity for all
members of the Assembly to have the opportunity to contribute
to that debate and we certainly welcome that debate and
think it's an important one to have.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Attorney General Chancey Peig appreciate your time this morning.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Thanks very much for speaking to us.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
No worries, mate, Thank you,
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