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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Well works today begin and continue until November thirty at
the Darwen International Airport.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
The first phase of the.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
Two hundred million dollar package to be split between Darwen
International Airport and the RUBAF base Darwin is going to
see runway lengths reduced with no impact, is what we're
being told on airline operations until October eighth this year. Now,
Darwin Airport's main runway is going to be closed daily
from that point, from two am until eleven thirty am
(00:29):
from October nine to November thirty, during phase two of
the project. Joining me on the line is the Deputy
Chief Minister, a Minister for Tourism and Hospitality, Nicole Manison.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Good morning to your minister.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Good morning Katie.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Now, firstly, Minister, this work is obviously getting underway today,
but it's not expected to be disruptive until the initial
will the second phase. I guess so Darwin Airport's main
runway is going to be closed daily in that second
phase from two until eleven thirty am from October nine
until November thirty. Aside from that Bali route that you
(01:06):
and I have spoken about before, are.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
You expecting there to be other disruptions?
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:12):
So far We've heard the jetst has had to stop
flights for three weeks from Darwin to Dmpastar, which is
a bit frustrating for the customers. They haven't been able
to find alternative plots for that period, but they have
assured us they will continue going outside of those times.
So I hope Jetstar stays true to that word. But
we know that other airlines there have had to look
(01:35):
at things like payloads, how many seats that they've got.
In some cases they may need to reschedule their flight times,
but they'll still keep flying to those destinations. We've really
stressed to the airput in defense that the timeline and
the delivery of the timeline that's set out to these
airlines is critical. This is not one of those timelines
(01:56):
where you can slip a few days, you can slip
a few weeks airline schedules. People are paying for seats
on airlines, customers and businesses, they're trying to connect and
get product to each other, so they really have to
stay true to their word and have a very firm
timeline held here.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Katie, Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
I guess the worrying part is is that sometimes you
know different things can happen that do cause delays, and
that'll be the concern on everybody's minds, won't it.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Well, it's the web season as well. You know, there's
only we can't control the gods and the weather, and
that's something that you know they're very conscious about about
trying to work around that. But this is one of
those projects where timelines have to be heered too because
paying customers and airlines are completely dependent on it.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Minister, at this stage, have you spoken to the other
airlines and what's going to happen with the likes of
Quantas and Air North. They do have flights so from
what I could see yesterday I jumped online and had
to look at those arrivals, they do have flight that
arrive and depart during those morning hours that have been
listed as being disrupted.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Yeah, possible flight change times is the advice. So with
those ones that are affected, they'll work around those time
periods and they will work around those times, is the
advice that I've got. I know, for example, Air and
North has a lot of remote flights. I've got Dalen
Townville and they have had to have a look at those,
so I think you'll find that they may be rescheduled
(03:29):
that will still be announced in some of those timelines,
but where airlines have been able to move flights have
done those already. But the also important part is that
it's not just about commercial aviation here. Care Flight is
a really important service to Territorians and the advice we've
had is that they remain unaffected by this except for
(03:50):
a few days a few days where they'll get some
more choppers in. But my understanding is that they're going
to be able to continue. And one thing I have
stressed through this process to defense into the Airport Development
Group has been importance of keeping our medical evacuation services
up and running because they are critical and it literally
is lifeful deaths for people who use those.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Yeah, that is.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Something that we actually got contacted by a listener about
yesterday saying, wellfie, what's going to happen with CareFlight with
obviously the choppers will still be able to fly, but
what about with their jet that does quite often take
people into state for critical, critical situations.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Yes, So CareFlight has been a really important consideration as
part of this, and so we've made sure that we've
advocated strongly to ensure that they don't have their services impacted.
You know, very early on in the discussions, there was
some talk about what they would be able to do
and want to be able to do, and I have
to say that that raised them pretty big alarm bells
(04:48):
for me. So I've always gone in very hard about
the importance of medical evacuation and making sure that they're
prioritized and we keep those services going.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
And so you can assure our listeners that those services
will still be able to continue to happen, because I mean,
I know at different times there's been you know, there's
been babies airlifted to Adelaide in places like that.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Absolutely, And the only issue I've had raised with me
in my briefings has been perhaps two days there, and
this has been intra territory stuff where they'd be putting
on more choppers.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
All right, so for two days it may be a
situation where where the interstate flights may not be able
to happen for care.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Flights, No, it's not the interstate, the intra territory. So
in the nord the territory.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
What about the situations where CareFlight does need to airlift
people to other states?
Speaker 3 (05:41):
No, No, they again like we can still run airplanes
and they'll still be able to run those flights to
get people into states, is the advice that I've got.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Even if it's during those hours between two am and
eleven thirty, they.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Will have contingencies to work, Katie, to keep people working
around the clock there. But it's also important to recognize
that we have medical practitioners that can put practices in
place around stabilizing people here, and we've also got highly
trained specialists here in Darwin that are able to do that.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
It does sound as though there's going to need to
be contingencies though We're potentially a person who does need
to travel into state may need to be here for
for longer hours because of that runway work.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Yes, so, but again they do some very careful planning
around these things. And the important thing to recognize is
that we have a very professional crew. They're at care flight.
They are going to be continuing to fly, They're going
to be continuing to fly within the Northern Territory and interstate.
But again they have to make a whole range of
judgments every day with regards to medical evacuations and availability
(06:47):
and when they can actually get people into plots into
other hospitals and so forth, So this is part of
their daily dealings.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Yeah, And I guess you know.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
The thing is, there's certainly no question whatsoever about the
professionalism and the hard work that care Flight does. I know,
I've been out there to the hangar. They do a
phenomenal job. But it is more about that work and
whether that runway works actually going to impact them in
terms of being able to take off and land if
they've got a critical patient that needs to go into state.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Yes, and again, like I said, these are these are
matters that they do with every day, Katie. But I
have no doubt that CareFlight will be able to talk
you through some of those contingencies and those things that
they work through.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
All right, so you're confident that it's not going to
cause an issue where somebody that is critical isn't going
to be able to get into state if that is
what is needed when they're you know, going through whatever
medical issue they've got.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
No. I just know that CareFlight deal with different decisions
that I have to make every day about availability and
transportation and how they treat their patients and you know,
really for them moving people around and the timing of
that and how they treat them while they wait to
get them into different places.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Is part of what they do now, Minister, in terms
of those negotiations with other airlines to try and entice
them into the Northern territory. Has the releasing of this
work schedule provided a little bit more clarity for you
to be able to progress those negotiations or where are
you at?
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Even prior to that, prior to the works being publicly released,
we were still having really good conversations with airlines and
the interest is there, so that never stopped stop this,
but you know, I think everybody wanted some certainty, but
I would say that the interest was still very high
even with these runway works still are not out there
(08:35):
for the public to see locked in, but we're continuing
those conversations and everybody is very clear on what the
state of players of when they can get in and
get out of Darwin Airport.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
All right now, I do want to ask you about
a situation that we've been made aware of by Gavin Morris,
the principle of you buring your school overnight. A group
of twelve year olds have apparently been injured after crashing
a stolen car into a tree in Alice Springs. This
is the third time in less than five days that
there's been a serious incident involving kids, pretty young kids
(09:07):
in Alice Springs, the kids he sees students at the school.
Do you think that the government that you're part of
has the settings right when it comes to dealing with
youth crime and the incidents that we're seeing in Alice
at the moment.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Well, firstly, I just want to say how disappointing this sounds.
I haven't been briefed on this event, but you know
you were in your school do an amazing job. They're
really about re engaging kids, especially Aboriginal kids in Central Australia,
and helping them get into school, get into education and
to start that really important habit and stick to it
(09:44):
of going to school every day because it will transform
their life for the better. But look, we work very
hard every day when it comes to tackling youth crime
in Alice Springs. We know that we've got some really
tough issues there with families that not stable, a lot
of domestic violence, alcohol abuse and so forth, and that
(10:05):
creates challenges for the kids. And you know, so we're
working really hard to try to make sure that we
put more supports around those families. But if those kids
start re offending, making sure that we do have programs
in place to try to stop them becoming adult criminals.
So we do continue working very hard of it. But
it's very you know, it frustrates you to his stories
(10:28):
like this when a great place like your friend, your school,
has to experience this type of thing.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Well, and it's pretty frightening.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
I mean, even on Friday, waking to the news that
kids under the age well under the age of twelve
had been behind the wheel of a bus and now
hearing what's gone on last night, I mean, are you
guys worried that are kid's going to die?
Speaker 3 (10:51):
If people do these stupid, foolish things when they are
not qualified to drive a car. Absolutely, I get worried
about what they're going to do to themselves and what
they might do to other people. So that's why we
work really hard to try to make sure we can
see these kids are going off the rails that we're
putting supports in place, that we're trying to get in
there to work with that child, with their families to
(11:14):
stop them from doing these types of stupid, dangerous things.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
All right, Well, no doubt get further detail on that
incident as the morning progresses, but just finally, on a
different topic, the Opposition leader is renewing her calls from
the Chief for the Chief Minister to name the date
and the time that the petition signed by more than
twenty six thousand people. Well, they've signed for justice for
Decklan Lavity, and they're wanting to know exactly when.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
It's going to be debated.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Is the government going to provide that certainty?
Speaker 3 (11:45):
I just don't have that information in front of me, Katie,
But I just want to stress to you how seriously
we do take that petition and that this is something
that we're taking very seriously and acting upon. We're put
in some pretty serious reforms and we're going to continue
to work harder to make sure that, you know, we
keep the community as safe as we can, because you know,
(12:06):
what's happened to poor old Samorrow and her family is
just devastating, and you know, we take her views very
very seriously.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
So can I mean, can we get a commitment from
the government though, that you will sort of let her
family know and let the community know when that debate
is going to take place.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
Yeah, you know, I just I just don't have the
information in front of me right now, and I don't
want to give out the wrong dates for information. Katie.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
That's all right.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
We will get you back information as soon as we can,
and certainly you know staying in contact with that family
is very important as well. Well.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
We appreciate that and we'll appreciate if we can get
to get that date. Deputy Chief Ministon Nicole Madison, we
appreciate your time this morning.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
Thanks Katie,
Well works today begin and continue until November thirty at
the Darwen International Airport.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
The first phase of the.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
Two hundred million dollar package to be split between Darwen
International Airport and the RUBAF base Darwin is going to
see runway lengths reduced with no impact, is what we're
being told on airline operations until October eighth this year. Now,
Darwin Airport's main runway is going to be closed daily
from that point, from two am until eleven thirty am
(00:29):
from October nine to November thirty, during phase two of
the project. Joining me on the line is the Deputy
Chief Minister, a Minister for Tourism and Hospitality, Nicole Manison.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Good morning to your minister.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Good morning Katie.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Now, firstly, Minister, this work is obviously getting underway today,
but it's not expected to be disruptive until the initial
will the second phase. I guess so Darwin Airport's main
runway is going to be closed daily in that second
phase from two until eleven thirty am from October nine
until November thirty. Aside from that Bali route that you
(01:06):
and I have spoken about before, are.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
You expecting there to be other disruptions?
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:12):
So far We've heard the jetst has had to stop
flights for three weeks from Darwin to Dmpastar, which is
a bit frustrating for the customers. They haven't been able
to find alternative plots for that period, but they have
assured us they will continue going outside of those times.
So I hope Jetstar stays true to that word. But
we know that other airlines there have had to look
(01:35):
at things like payloads, how many seats that they've got.
In some cases they may need to reschedule their flight times,
but they'll still keep flying to those destinations. We've really
stressed to the airput in defense that the timeline and
the delivery of the timeline that's set out to these
airlines is critical. This is not one of those timelines
(01:56):
where you can slip a few days, you can slip
a few weeks airline schedules. People are paying for seats
on airlines, customers and businesses, they're trying to connect and
get product to each other, so they really have to
stay true to their word and have a very firm
timeline held here.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Katie, Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
I guess the worrying part is is that sometimes you
know different things can happen that do cause delays, and
that'll be the concern on everybody's minds, won't it.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Well, it's the web season as well. You know, there's
only we can't control the gods and the weather, and
that's something that you know they're very conscious about about
trying to work around that. But this is one of
those projects where timelines have to be heered too because
paying customers and airlines are completely dependent on it.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Minister, at this stage, have you spoken to the other
airlines and what's going to happen with the likes of
Quantas and Air North. They do have flights so from
what I could see yesterday I jumped online and had
to look at those arrivals, they do have flight that
arrive and depart during those morning hours that have been
listed as being disrupted.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Yeah, possible flight change times is the advice. So with
those ones that are affected, they'll work around those time
periods and they will work around those times, is the
advice that I've got. I know, for example, Air and
North has a lot of remote flights. I've got Dalen
Townville and they have had to have a look at those,
so I think you'll find that they may be rescheduled
(03:29):
that will still be announced in some of those timelines,
but where airlines have been able to move flights have
done those already. But the also important part is that
it's not just about commercial aviation here. Care Flight is
a really important service to Territorians and the advice we've
had is that they remain unaffected by this except for
(03:50):
a few days a few days where they'll get some
more choppers in. But my understanding is that they're going
to be able to continue. And one thing I have
stressed through this process to defense into the Airport Development
Group has been importance of keeping our medical evacuation services
up and running because they are critical and it literally
is lifeful deaths for people who use those.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Yeah, that is.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Something that we actually got contacted by a listener about
yesterday saying, wellfie, what's going to happen with CareFlight with
obviously the choppers will still be able to fly, but
what about with their jet that does quite often take
people into state for critical, critical situations.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Yes, So CareFlight has been a really important consideration as
part of this, and so we've made sure that we've
advocated strongly to ensure that they don't have their services impacted.
You know, very early on in the discussions, there was
some talk about what they would be able to do
and want to be able to do, and I have
to say that that raised them pretty big alarm bells
(04:48):
for me. So I've always gone in very hard about
the importance of medical evacuation and making sure that they're
prioritized and we keep those services going.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
And so you can assure our listeners that those services
will still be able to continue to happen, because I mean,
I know at different times there's been you know, there's
been babies airlifted to Adelaide in places like that.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Absolutely, And the only issue I've had raised with me
in my briefings has been perhaps two days there, and
this has been intra territory stuff where they'd be putting
on more choppers.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
All right, so for two days it may be a
situation where where the interstate flights may not be able
to happen for care.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Flights, No, it's not the interstate, the intra territory. So
in the nord the territory.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
What about the situations where CareFlight does need to airlift
people to other states?
Speaker 3 (05:41):
No, No, they again like we can still run airplanes
and they'll still be able to run those flights to
get people into states, is the advice that I've got.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Even if it's during those hours between two am and
eleven thirty, they.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Will have contingencies to work, Katie, to keep people working
around the clock there. But it's also important to recognize
that we have medical practitioners that can put practices in
place around stabilizing people here, and we've also got highly
trained specialists here in Darwin that are able to do that.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
It does sound as though there's going to need to
be contingencies though We're potentially a person who does need
to travel into state may need to be here for
for longer hours because of that runway work.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Yes, so, but again they do some very careful planning
around these things. And the important thing to recognize is
that we have a very professional crew. They're at care flight.
They are going to be continuing to fly, They're going
to be continuing to fly within the Northern Territory and interstate.
But again they have to make a whole range of
judgments every day with regards to medical evacuations and availability
(06:47):
and when they can actually get people into plots into
other hospitals and so forth, So this is part of
their daily dealings.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Yeah, And I guess you know.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
The thing is, there's certainly no question whatsoever about the
professionalism and the hard work that care Flight does. I know,
I've been out there to the hangar. They do a
phenomenal job. But it is more about that work and
whether that runway works actually going to impact them in
terms of being able to take off and land if
they've got a critical patient that needs to go into state.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Yes, and again, like I said, these are these are
matters that they do with every day, Katie. But I
have no doubt that CareFlight will be able to talk
you through some of those contingencies and those things that
they work through.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
All right, so you're confident that it's not going to
cause an issue where somebody that is critical isn't going
to be able to get into state if that is
what is needed when they're you know, going through whatever
medical issue they've got.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
No. I just know that CareFlight deal with different decisions
that I have to make every day about availability and
transportation and how they treat their patients and you know,
really for them moving people around and the timing of
that and how they treat them while they wait to
get them into different places.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Is part of what they do now, Minister, in terms
of those negotiations with other airlines to try and entice
them into the Northern territory. Has the releasing of this
work schedule provided a little bit more clarity for you
to be able to progress those negotiations or where are
you at?
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Even prior to that, prior to the works being publicly released,
we were still having really good conversations with airlines and
the interest is there, so that never stopped stop this,
but you know, I think everybody wanted some certainty, but
I would say that the interest was still very high
even with these runway works still are not out there
(08:35):
for the public to see locked in, but we're continuing
those conversations and everybody is very clear on what the
state of players of when they can get in and
get out of Darwin Airport.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
All right now, I do want to ask you about
a situation that we've been made aware of by Gavin Morris,
the principle of you buring your school overnight. A group
of twelve year olds have apparently been injured after crashing
a stolen car into a tree in Alice Springs. This
is the third time in less than five days that
there's been a serious incident involving kids, pretty young kids
(09:07):
in Alice Springs, the kids he sees students at the school.
Do you think that the government that you're part of
has the settings right when it comes to dealing with
youth crime and the incidents that we're seeing in Alice
at the moment.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Well, firstly, I just want to say how disappointing this sounds.
I haven't been briefed on this event, but you know
you were in your school do an amazing job. They're
really about re engaging kids, especially Aboriginal kids in Central Australia,
and helping them get into school, get into education and
to start that really important habit and stick to it
(09:44):
of going to school every day because it will transform
their life for the better. But look, we work very
hard every day when it comes to tackling youth crime
in Alice Springs. We know that we've got some really
tough issues there with families that not stable, a lot
of domestic violence, alcohol abuse and so forth, and that
(10:05):
creates challenges for the kids. And you know, so we're
working really hard to try to make sure that we
put more supports around those families. But if those kids
start re offending, making sure that we do have programs
in place to try to stop them becoming adult criminals.
So we do continue working very hard of it. But
it's very you know, it frustrates you to his stories
(10:28):
like this when a great place like your friend, your school,
has to experience this type of thing.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Well, and it's pretty frightening.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
I mean, even on Friday, waking to the news that
kids under the age well under the age of twelve
had been behind the wheel of a bus and now
hearing what's gone on last night, I mean, are you
guys worried that are kid's going to die?
Speaker 3 (10:51):
If people do these stupid, foolish things when they are
not qualified to drive a car. Absolutely, I get worried
about what they're going to do to themselves and what
they might do to other people. So that's why we
work really hard to try to make sure we can
see these kids are going off the rails that we're
putting supports in place, that we're trying to get in
there to work with that child, with their families to
(11:14):
stop them from doing these types of stupid, dangerous things.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
All right, Well, no doubt get further detail on that
incident as the morning progresses, but just finally, on a
different topic, the Opposition leader is renewing her calls from
the Chief for the Chief Minister to name the date
and the time that the petition signed by more than
twenty six thousand people. Well, they've signed for justice for
Decklan Lavity, and they're wanting to know exactly when.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
It's going to be debated.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Is the government going to provide that certainty?
Speaker 3 (11:45):
I just don't have that information in front of me, Katie,
But I just want to stress to you how seriously
we do take that petition and that this is something
that we're taking very seriously and acting upon. We're put
in some pretty serious reforms and we're going to continue
to work harder to make sure that, you know, we
keep the community as safe as we can, because you know,
(12:06):
what's happened to poor old Samorrow and her family is
just devastating, and you know, we take her views very
very seriously.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
So can I mean, can we get a commitment from
the government though, that you will sort of let her
family know and let the community know when that debate
is going to take place.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
Yeah, you know, I just I just don't have the
information in front of me right now, and I don't
want to give out the wrong dates for information. Katie.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
That's all right.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
We will get you back information as soon as we can,
and certainly you know staying in contact with that family
is very important as well. Well.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
We appreciate that and we'll appreciate if we can get
to get that date. Deputy Chief Ministon Nicole Madison, we
appreciate your time this morning.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
Thanks Katie,
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