4t Below Zero: Multiple Sclerosis Podcast

4t Below Zero: Multiple Sclerosis Podcast

An international podcast about living with Multiple Sclerosis. 2 Guys with MS not MS'ing around. Hosted by Nick and Terry, discussing and attempting to normalize the conversation around life with a chronic and invisible illness.

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September 9, 2026 73 mins

The Brutal Reality of Living With MOGAD, Disability, and Hope

Larry’s MOGAD story, MS overlap, and life after major medical setbacks

Terry and Nix open with a candid reflection on how closely MOGAD can resemble MS, then bring on Larry to explain his diagnosis, treatment, and daily reality. This conversation matters because it shows how easily neurological conditions can be confused, why self-advocacy matters, and how someone ca...

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Adam Powell on rebuilding life after a fast, aggressive MS diagnosis

This episode features Terry, NIX, and guest Adam Powell, who shares how a devastating primary progressive MS diagnosis reshaped his life in months, not years. Adam explains how he went from a strong, independent UPS supervisor to wheelchair use, then slowly rebuilt independence through physical therapy, adaptive tools, and sheer persistence.

We discuss the realities...

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Imagine living with voices in your head that everyone thinks are just signs of violence or unpredictability—yet you're an artist, advocate, and everyday person fighting to redefine what's possible. Michelle Hammer, a mental health advocate and founder of Schizophrenic NYC, shares her personal story of diagnosis, the misconceptions she faced, and how art and advocacy became her healing tools. Her narrative shatters the damagin...

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Finding Strength and Hope with Montel Williams: A Conversation on MS, Mental Health, and Resilience

In this episode, we have an inspiring conversation with Montel Williams, a daytime Emmy-winning television host, decorated military veteran, and groundbreaking advocate for MS awareness and mental health. Join us as Montel shares his journey living with MS, his perspective on aging, resilience, and the power of self-love and advocacy.

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How a Small Community and Podcast Became My Healing Sanctuary

Join us as we dive into Jenny's inspiring journey living with multiple sclerosis, from her initial diagnosis after electrocution to her current advocacy and podcasting efforts. We explore the importance of acceptance, supportive healthcare, and community in managing MS, alongside engaging stories from her adventures at MS events and her experiences with the medical system...

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Most parents hope their kid’s biggest worry is missing dessert or losing at hide and seek. But for Erica, the fears started way earlier—like when her nine-year-old was diagnosed with pediatric MS before she even knew what it was. This isn’t your typical story; it’s a rollercoaster through shocking diagnoses, brave resilience, and the surprising ways kids handle a life-altering disease with more strength than...

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Most of us dream of age-defying secrets, but what if the real magic is just surviving MS day by day? Dawnmarie Deshaies shares her raw, unfiltered journey through health scares — kidney stones, bladder drops, and tremors that feel like earthquakes. Spoiler: It’s not glamorous, but it’s real life, and she’s making it work with humor, holistic hacks, and a whole lot of resilience.

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Most filmmakers are still stuck in the stone age, throwing millions at CGI and practical effects while these trailblazers are building the future with virtual rigs, and a dash of defiance. Imagine creating an entire movie using a custom, accessible camera rig designed specifically for filmmakers with mobility challenges—sounds like sci-fi, but it’s happening right now. Jason, Edward, and their team are not only redefini...

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The Weekend Woes, Strongman Shenanigans, and Adaptive Fashion!Ever had a weekend so packed that your social battery hit zero? Yeah, same here. Join us as we navigate post-reunion exhaustion, hear about the latest in strongman records, and get the scoop on adaptive fashion from Izzy Camilleri.In this episode:Tales of childhood memories with Boy Scouts and Cub Scouts (with a comedy twist).The epic adventures of a strongman reaching w...

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Most of us don’t realize how quickly life can throw a curveball—like sudden vision loss, relentless tremors, or an MS diagnosis that hits you like a freight train. But here's the twist: even when life bounces you around with hospital stays and meds, resilience, humor, and a little tattoo therapy can keep you going.

Meet Chris, a guy who faced optic neuritis, multiple relapses, and a mountain of side effects—all whi...

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Most people hide their struggles; she turned hers into stand-up gold. Meet the comedian with MS who turned seventeen years of silence into a one-woman show that’s breaking barriers—and maybe a few glasses of whiskey along the way.

In this raw and hilarious episode, we dive into how she went from hiding her MS for nearly two decades to performing on stages across Canada, all while navigating relapses, relishing the absurd...

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Ready to laugh, learn, and maybe shed a tear or two? This episode dives into family planning with MS warriors, the miraculous advances in treatment, and the power of community advocacy — all served with a healthy dose of wit and heart. If you think MS is just about medications, think again — it's about identity, resilience, and finding humour in the chaos.

The importance of family planning during MS diagnosis and journey

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May 27, 2026 38 mins

Get ready to dive into the power of authentic connection and mental resilience in this episode . Whether you're living with MS, leading support groups, or just looking for deeper connections, we're unpacking how shared experiences, rhythm, and vulnerability can create meaningful bonds.

Join Nick, Terry, and Dorice as they explore the impact of community on emotional healing. From drum circles to heart-to-heart convos, they'll show y...

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This episode dives into the inspiring story of Tyson Kipfer, a musician navigating life with multiple sclerosis. Tyson shares how he’s adapted his passion for music while coping with the disease, exploring new methods, treatments, and mental resilience that keep him inspired.

In this episode:

Tyson discusses his transition from traditional instruments to digital and adapted playing methods

Insights into alternative and experimen...

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This episode isn't just about survival—it's about thriving with MS. Brent's story emphasizes that you are not alone, and with the right tools, you can influence your health trajectory positively. If you're searching for inspiration, actionable strategies, or simply a deeper understanding of how lifestyle interacts with MS, this is essential listening.

Whether you're new to diagnosis or years into your journey, you'll walk away...

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May 6, 2026 55 mins

Most people overlook the profound impact of MS beyond the diagnosis—it changes relationships, careers, daily habits, and even how we support each other. Richard and Marc’s story offers a rare look at living with multiple sclerosis while refusing to let it define their lives. From navigating care and stigma to embracing new identities — including bold fashion choices and community activism — this episode reve...

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April 15, 2026 45 mins

In this episode, Ardra Shepard joins us to explore how mobility aids, disability representation, and personal style intertwine. We delve into topics like authentic self-expression, the importance of representation, and practical tips for navigating social events in style, all grounded in real experiences.

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Ardra’s upcoming book, The Tripping Point, is a style manifesto highlighting disability-led fashion movements...

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Hold onto your coffee mugs, folks! Today’s episode is a rollercoaster of laughs, tears, and serious insight into life with MS—plus tips for advocacy, mental health, and surviving the medical maze—all served with a side of humor. If you're even a tad curious about MS, podcasting, or just how to turn your own health journey into a voice that matters, you're in the right place.

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Selena’s journey f...

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April 1, 2026 42 mins

Most of us think we only face health crises or career crises—but what about the terrifying, confusing world of MS, disability benefits, and managing a chaotic, crumbling infrastructure? Welcome to an episode that’s part therapy session, part survival guide, with an unexpected twist: how to navigate the wild, often ridiculous maze of disabilities, mental health, and the universe’s weirdest meteor showers.

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March 25, 2026 52 mins

Most people think they understand what it’s like living with MS — but Jason R. Gray reveals the raw, unfiltered truth behind the diagnosis that no one talks about. From terrifying relapses to the relentless mental and physical battle, he’s here to shatter illusions and share the unvarnished reality of survival.This episode dives deep into the chaos of flare-ups, the heartbreak of losing independence, and the unsto...

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