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Neal (00:00):
The funny thing is that Modern Family, the Spanglish, all those
stereotyped movies and television showswhere you've got the angry Latina in
the house, that is not fabricated.
That's not an exaggeration.
That is exactly what it is likebeing with, living with, or even
conversing with an angry Latina woman.
Danny (00:21):
Hi, and welcome to 5 Random Questions, the show where
every question is an adventure.
I'm your host Danny Brown.
And each week, I'll be askingmy guests five questions created
by a random question generator.
The guest has no idea what thequestions are, and neither do I,
which means this could go either way.
So sit back, relax, and let'sdive into this week's episode.
Today's guest is Neal Veglio,who's the owner of podcast
(00:43):
agency Podknow Podcasting.
which helps deliver real world resultsto serious podcasters and organizations.
He's also the founder of Podmastery,a service and podcast that helps
you increase your podcast success.
And as someone who's been in thepodcasting space since 2001, he's
probably older than 98 percentof all podcasters out there.
So be gentle if you see himdown your local supermarket.
(01:05):
Neal, welcome to the show, mate.
Neal (01:07):
Thank you, young Danny.
Appreciate your kindnessthere about my age.
Danny (01:14):
That's yeah, I thought I was speaking to Emperor Palpatine there.
Oh, he's coming in there.
A little bit of Palpatine, a littlebit of Animal from the Muppets,
and maybe even a tiny piece ofYoda in there for a good measure.
How
are
you doing, Neal?
Neal (01:26):
I'm fantastic.
I'm really excited because I get tobe on your brand new podcast that's
only been going for a few weeks now.
Yeah really good.
And, fresh, I'm going to do it because youwon't, because you're Mr Diplomatic, Fresh
from your company's amazing live streamwhere you unveiled a load of new features.
So I'm loving podcasting today.
Danny (01:45):
Yeah, thanks, mate.
And yeah, I'm for listeners thatdon't know, I'm the head of podcaster
support and experience at Captivate.
fm.
And we had a feature release ora feature update, earlier today.
goes out tomorrow as we're recording this.
And so we did a live stream.
The CEO and co founder Mark Asquithdid the live stream for that.
And it was cool.
Neal was in the old chat therechucking his comments at us
and being a nice supporter.
(02:06):
So that was good.
So yeah, it's great.
Excited to see thatcome out as well, mate.
So thanks for all the good wordsthat you're putting in there.
Neal (02:12):
Pleasure.
Always a pleasure to support you guys.
Danny (02:15):
Now I have to get the elephant in the room out of the way.
first before we jump intothe five random questions.
You're a good, proud Englishman.
We've just finished the Euros.
Did you watch it?
Are you an English supporteror what was your take?
What happened?
Neal (02:28):
I'm one of those typical armchair supporters where I don't
watch any club level football.
And then I suddenly become an expertwhen we're at a tournament level.
And yes, I did watch it.
No, I didn't have any expectations.
And very proud of theboys, very proud of Gareth.
Sad to hear he's, he'sdecided enough's enough.
But yeah, I come from thefootballing capital of the world.
(02:49):
It's not like I can'twatch it, is it really?
It's against the law.
Danny (02:53):
That's true.
Did you go out for any games, like any ofthe pubs that were holding it or anything,
or were you just watching at home?
Neal (02:57):
Armchair supported, Danny.
I
don't leave the house for any goodreason, unless it's a really good reason.
Danny (03:03):
When in England, I see.
I got to be careful herebecause I'm Scottish, obviously.
So anytime I speak about theEnglish football team, there's
a bit of bias comes over, I was.
I did want Spain to win it, notbecause we're playing England, I'll
be honest but primarily because ofthe way the media always tends to
build England up pre tournament.
Then they rip into them and they ripinto the players and they ripped into
Southgate, sometimes valid, oftentimes notvalid, and then they start to build them
(03:26):
up again as they get closer to the final.
I can't be done with that kind ofsports journalism and Spain played the
better football throughout the wholetournament, so it was nice to see
that, get them the goal, if you like.
Neal (03:36):
Absolutely.
I think the difference thistime around, certainly from
where I was watching things.
I think that, there was a definite dividebetween people that were being mean
about Gareth and the boys and people thatwere just, they didn't know what they
were talking about, and it, for me itdid feel like most of the country that
weren't the crazy gatekeeper footballfans were definitely getting behind
(03:59):
them and were proud, it was actuallya really nice tournament this time
round and yeah, you had some trouble,but you're always going to get trouble
when you get a bunch of Englishmen andsome beer together in the same room.
It's always going to bea nightmare, isn't it?
Danny (04:09):
Not just football fans.
You see them podcasting peoplewhen they go to the events.
Get the old three beersat the meetups, etc.
Ooh, we could tell tales.
Alrighty, Neal, so it'sfive random questions.
So what I'm going to do is I'm goingto bring up the random question
generator and we'll see how this goes.
You ready for the questions today?
I'm excited.
Let's do it.
(04:30):
Okay, question number one.
What is something youlearned in the last week?
Neal (04:37):
Oh, that's a good one.
Off to a strong start.
I would say, as he pauses fortime and uses filler words,
you're Jordan Pickford in goal.
I'll tell you what it was.
Okay, I'm going to becompletely honest, actually.
Talking about Jordan Pickford,this is a football related
(04:59):
what I've learned this week.
I'm glad I didn't tweet it because I sawthe pure vitriol that came back at this
person when they did tweet about it.
I didn't realize that the SpanishNational Anthem had no lyrics.
I learned that the hard way.
Cause I was sat there withmy wife watching game.
(05:20):
And of course, yeah, Gareth and the boys,they're all like, Oh God, save the king.
And I was sat therethinking, hang on a minute.
That's right.
Why the Spanish not as patriotic?
Unlike Ian Dale, I didn'tactually tweet that and bless him.
He came in for quite a bit of flack on X.
Because of that that comment.
(05:40):
But yeah, I'm in the same camp.
I did not realize that the SpanishNational Anthem has no lyrics.
Danny (05:47):
That is interesting.
I saw them.
Like you mentioned, I saw the teamstanding there and the anthem was
playing in the background and nobodywas mouthing, even if you're just like
half hearted about the anthem, becauseI know there's a whole political thing
going on in Spain with the Basque regionversus some other parts of Spain, etc.
And some team members come fromthe Basque region, some don't.
(06:08):
So there's that, that possible, politicalside of it, but he never knew it was
because there's no lyrics at all.
So do you have any moreinformation on that?
How that came about or?
Neal (06:17):
Not a clue.
I've got no idea.
All I saw was a bunch of players thatwere completely stony silent and I
thought, wow, okay they're obviouslyeither really confident or really don't
care about their country, which was aterrible assumption to make on my part.
And I've learned from it.
Unlike Ian Dale, who probably hasn't.
So yeah, it was very surprising, butnow I feel that I've got one up at
(06:41):
a pub quiz when when someone triesto catch me out and say, sing the
national anthem for Spain, Neal.
Danny (06:47):
Let me clear my throat.
I'll have to, I'll haveto link to Ian's tweet.
I'll find the tweet and linkto that in the show notes, em.
Cause yeah, I was watching it.
I was thinking the really, as yousay, they've got a really steely gaze.
I just thought they were so focused onthe game at hand and what was coming up.
Maybe they didn't want to wastetheir breath singing the anthem.
They wanted to save it for thebattle that was about to come.
But I wonder if there's anyother countries that don't sing.
(07:09):
The Scots don't care.
We've got our national onefrom the Flower of Scotland.
We'll study.
Mumble that if I remember it.
I know Canada is very patrioticabout their national anthem.
The US, obviously, hugely patrioticfor their national anthem.
But I wonder if there's any countrieson top of that, that don't have
words to the national anthem.
Neal (07:27):
I'm sure you'll get listeners emailing in and telling you, Danny,
how did you not know about I know.
Outer Wherever it's called,National Anthem not having lyrics.
Danny (07:37):
See, now I'm going to research that after this episode.
I'm going to start researching thatand I'm going to drop a whole, but
I might not drop all the links in.
I might set up a nice littleEaster egg, treasure hunt.
Okay, I'm going to do a specialgiveaway for anybody that can tell me
how many countries do not have wordsto the National Anthems and what these
words are, just to confuse people.
But that's very cool.
That's an interesting little,tidbit to kick the episode off.
(07:58):
So yeah, that's further investigationis needed for that, I think.
So now that we know that Spain wasnot ignoring their royal family or
whoever the national anthem wouldbe in honor of, let's have a look
and see what question number two is.
All right, Neal, I'm a bit of foodie,so I know what I would do here, I think.
(08:20):
But question number two, what is theone food that you would never give up?
Neal (08:26):
Beef.
Oh, beef.
And in particular, if you want meto get really niche, roast beef.
Danny (08:33):
I'm thinking there's a, I'm thinking there's a Sunday roast
reason for that
here.
Are you a traditionalist?
Every Sunday you've got the roast on?
Neal (08:42):
I'm not as often as I'd like.
Unfortunately, I'm married to a aCosta Rican woman by descent and
they didn't really do roast beefroast family meals in Latin America.
I get treated whenever I go andvisit my mam and of course, like
everybody's mam, my mam cooks thebest roast beef on the planet.
So it's always a treat to go, it'sobviously a treat to go home and
(09:03):
see the parents anyway but certainlyhaving mum preparing a nice roast
beef for a little boy is definitelya highlight in the value family.
Whenever we have a meetup.
So yeah, that's probably, itprobably is a childhood thing.
I think a lot of these foodrelated comforts tend to come
from your childhood don't they?
Whether there's a certain chocolatebar that reminds you of happy
(09:25):
memories or whether there's youknow, a certain type of dessert or a
meal, but yeah for me roast beef, itdefinitely reminds me of simpler times.
When we weren't all sat with our phonesout on the table when we were eating, and
we were actually talking to each otherand conversing like normal human beings.
Danny (09:43):
Why, I also wonder if the, I love a good roast beef.
I'll make a roast now and again, likeI'm married to a Canadian and she loves,
Sunday roast when I make a Sunday roast,whether it's roast beef or maybe it's
a pork loin or something like that.
But I also wonder, you mentioned,it's like simpler times or
childhoods where it came from.
I wonder now with the influx oftech and phones and all that kind
(10:04):
of stuff that maybe roast dinnersaren't quite certainly in the UK.
It's a very UK specific thing.
I feel a roast beef dinner,a Sunday roast, etcetera.
I wonder if I'm that sort ofgoing to die down and more
people just do their own thing.
And, don't get together as often forthat kind of, family get together.
Neal (10:23):
Oh, that's a very depressing thing that you brought up there, Danny.
That's made me feel very sad,thinking of this utopia, dystopian
future where, families are allhaving their own individual meals
and all consumed in their own virtualreality worlds on their phones.
I don't think I want tolive in that world, Danny.
I want to go back to the eighties andjust eat prawn cocktails for starters and
a bit of sweet corn and some roast beef.
(10:45):
Thanks very much.
Danny (10:47):
Yeah I can see it now.
You look at some, ourkids are very active.
They're like competitive athletes.
My son plays football, soccerin North America and my
daughter's a competitive cheer.
So they're very active in the evenings.
They've got lots of training.
They've got games andcompetitions and all that stuff.
So sometimes it's harder toget together as a family.
And a lot of the time my wife does thedriving, she'll be like, Oh, Be with
(11:10):
the kids and I'm just at home eatingbeans on toast for my dinner or my tea,
whatever you want, whatever you call it.
But we do try and make an effort.
Obviously, when everybody's in the samevicinity, we'll make an effort to sit
down and have that family get together.
But I can see as well.
I completely agree.
It's very much Something I wouldn'twant to see become the norm, but
(11:30):
I can also understand how it couldbecome the norm, depending on, what
your life's and business, et cetera.
Neal (11:37):
Yeah.
We all live very busy livesand you know that the whole.
This is what I think I've noticed as I'vegot older is that, it becomes harder and
harder to make that time for family timejust because of the pressures of business.
If you've got a job, you've got9 million tasks you've got to
complete before the end of the day.
And even with the hybridremote working now that, it's
(11:59):
pretty much become the norm.
It's still seems to be thatoverzealous, overambitious bosses
like to pile work on their staff, evenif they're based at home doing it.
Yeah, it is.
It's a special time and I reallyhope that we don't lose it.
I hope it, it definitely stays with us.
Danny (12:14):
And you mentioned your wife.
Is it Costa Rican, your wife?
Costa Rican descent CostaRican, that's right.
Cost.
Has she had, prior to marrying youand moving to the UK, et cetera,
had she had like a Sunday roastequivalent or not equivalent?
Has she had us traditional Sunday roast?
Was that her first introduction to it?
Neal (12:28):
That was her first introduction to it, meeting me, as if I wasn't enough.
The fact that I introduced roastbeef into a life just may give
us the icing on the cake, Danny.
Danny (12:39):
I can imagine.
And what's her specialty then?
I can imagine she's maybe gota specialty or two for dinners.
Neal (12:44):
Name any sort of, underground Latin American dish.
So you got rosa con pollo.
You've got, all the stuff that youwouldn't get in a Tex Mex restaurant,
basically, the proper stuff.
The pico de gallo andall that kind of stuff.
She really specializes in that.
Danny (13:01):
That's awesome.
I think if I ever get to the Podcast Showin London, which I keep pushing Mark to
get me over to, but no success yet, I'mgonna have to employ your wife, I think,
to make a nice dish, because I love thatkind of food, and that would be amazing
to have it be proper, authentic as well,as opposed to, not that I have a shop
there, but like a Taco Bell or something.
(13:21):
No, thank you.
Neal (13:22):
You don't want to go to Taco Bell if you've got the choice of a Taco
Bell on my wife's cooking, absolutely.
Danny (13:28):
I never could understand why Taco Bell became so popular.
Maybe cost cheapness,the cost and food, etc.
But when you taste the food, I justlike when I never had a Taco Bell.
prior to moving to Canada.
And I, when I first moved here becauseI was still going through the process
and getting my visa or my permanentresidence and all that sorted out,
I had to take certain like odd jobswhere you just try to make some money.
(13:50):
And one of them was a mystery shopper.
And part of that was going to fast foodrestaurants and, making notes of the
ambience, the cleanliness and that.
But because of that, you hadto buy the stuff there to see
what the whole process was like.
That was my first taste of TacoBell, and I was appalled, mate.
Appalled.
I thought, oh.
Neal (14:09):
Thought you were going to say, it was pleasantly surprising.
Oh
Danny (14:12):
no, it was awful.
And I may be better now, I doubt it.
I pretty much guaranteed the same recipe.
But yeah, no Taco Bell for me.
I'm sorry.
Neal (14:21):
You
know that probably, whendid you move to Canada?
How long ago was that?
Danny (14:27):
2006, so almost 20 years now.
Neal (14:29):
There's probably way more Taco Bells here now in the UK
than were here when you were here.
It's becoming a growing brand.
There's even my local town,they've got a Taco Bell as well.
Yeah, it's, they're
coming over
like locusts.
Danny (14:43):
That's probably why people were leaving the UK then.
It has nothing to do withBrexit, it's Taco Bell's fault.
You heard it here first.
Alrighty Neal, moving swiftly onfrom the whole Taco Bell debauchery,
which I feel could happen if youactually had too much Taco Bell.
Let's have a look at whatquestion number three would be.
This, ooh, okay, thisis an interesting one.
(15:06):
Because, yeah, I'm justgonna let you have it, mate.
What's question number three, Neal?
What's one differencebetween us that you love?
Neal (15:15):
Is this between you and I?
Danny (15:17):
I'm, see, this is what I'm, this is what I love about the show.
It's just popped up.
I have no idea what the context isbetween the, so let's go two options.
So let's go the difference betweenyou and I as people, me and you,
and then maybe let's go as cultural.
So English versus Scottish or howeveryou want to approach that side of it.
Neal (15:37):
Okay.
Interesting.
Intriguing.
Okay.
The difference between you and I, ona personal level, is pretty, I mean
we have to go to the work thing,in the, you're clearly someone that
is an indie podcaster, and you lovepodcasts, you're, borderline need
an intervention, to be honest withyou, the amount of podcasts that you
launch, I worry about you sometimes.
(15:59):
Especially knowing that you're afamily man and, time is poor as it is.
Versus me, who is a business ownerwho does podcasting for a living for
other people and would love to domore podcasts for myself, but simply
there aren't enough hours in the day.
So I think that's like the mostobvious difference between you
and I personally, culturally.
(16:22):
Interestingly, I think there's a similarmaybe difference in the creative aspect
in that I think you perhaps probablyapproach your content in a kind of,
I love getting content out there andI wanna just share knowledge with the
world and you're really good at whatyou do with the One Minute Podcast Tips
that you do, which I'm a big fan of.
(16:43):
You've had podcasts in the pastwhere you've interviewed people.
Obviously you've got this now,which is obviously a very different
approach versus me, who is.
So beyond tied down in the minutiae andthe perfectionism of like barely even
getting one episode out a month I thinkI could really learn something from
someone like you culturally where You justgo, do you know what content is great.
(17:05):
Let's just get this out there and, and wejust rush through it and get it all done.
And honestly, when you listento what you're producing, you
listen to what I'm producing.
You can't tell the difference.
So there's a learning moment there.
Neal, stop getting bogged down inthe detail, but I think that's what
makes it brilliant in this industryis that, you've got some people
that approach things in one way.
(17:25):
You've got some people thatapproach things in a different way.
It makes us all reallydifferent and unique and it.
It's just that, without wishing to soundpoetic, it's like that smorgasbord of
different tasty dishes that people cantuck into and find their own preferences.
Danny (17:42):
I almost wonder, and A, thank you.
A, thank you for The kind wordsabout my content approach, but then
B, what's that a little, sorry,passive aggressive because you
just throw it out there, Danny.
You get it done.
You don't care about it.
You're it's out there.
So I see what you did.
Are you monkey?
Neal (17:58):
Not
at
all.
Danny (17:59):
I almost wonder so when I was back in the UK years ago, I'd be,
I'm going to say early, mid twenties.
My age wise.
So I was, I'm still a big gamer,but I was a huge video gamer then
and the Dreamcast was about to comeout in the UK, something like that.
And I knew people that workedat Sega as game testers.
So they'd, work on games,et cetera, to test them.
And the last thing they wanted to doWhen they got home was play video games
(18:23):
because they've been so focused on tryingto identify small little bugs, glitches,
stuff that should have worked, that shouldhave worked and didn't work, etcetera.
And I wonder if that's maybe the samewith someone in your position that does
so much for podcasters and, companiesand production companies, etcetera.
The last thing you want to do whenyou've been podcasting all day long,
(18:43):
For someone else or working on podcastsall day long for someone else is
now go back and record and edit andpublish and market your own thing.
I wonder if that's partof it as well mate.
Neal (18:53):
It's really interesting you bring this up because this actually has surfaced
for me quite recently actually when I wastalking to somebody about my processes
and it is really interesting that.
Obviously I come from a radio presenterbackground that was my gig for you
know nearly 30 years was going intoradio studios in front of the mic
holding down morning radio shows andwriting the comedy bits and performing
(19:16):
the skits and playing the music andtalking to callers and all that stuff.
And I really loved it.
Don't get me wrong.
I really enjoyed it, but it didn'tfire me up in the same way that it
does when I'm actually producing other.
And I learned this producing otherswas really exciting to me, like
the fact that I could take someone.
Who was slightly unseasonedand didn't have necessarily my
(19:39):
experience and my skill set.
And helping them to grow theirskill sets to basically emulate
what I'd been doing before.
And I really picked up onthe fact that I get way more.
Out of doing that for othersthan I ever do for myself.
So I think there's a bigaspect, I think you're right.
I think there is thataspect of, busman's holiday.
(19:59):
To quote a British term.
You don't necessarily want to doas a hobby that you do as a job.
But also I think it's probably thatit doesn't turn me on quite as much to
stick my own content out there in a feed.
and see the data coming back on me.
It really turns me on when I seethe data coming in for a client or
for someone I've been consultingwith or training or, coaching.
(20:21):
That is a different ballgame to me.
And I think That is the interestingpart is that maybe I need to look
at gamifying this slightly more formyself to make it much more of a much
more of a dopamine hit to actuallyget that content out there for myself.
Danny (20:36):
Good point.
And that's it as well.
It comes back to the whole,like a lot of podcasters start
it as a passion project, right?
It's a hobby project inthe might and meander.
Along as a hobby andmeander is a horrible word.
I apologize.
I don't mean you meander because youdon't want to take your podcast to
monetization or growth or anythinglike that, but they're completely happy
about keeping it as a hobby becausethat's what they're passionate about.
(20:57):
They're passionate about talking abouttheir Star Wars love or their love of
Jason and the Argonauts, and the effectsthat Ray Harryhausen did back in the day.
But then, to your point, if you'renot passionate about creating the
content, then the content itself mightsuffer anyway, because you're just
going to start mailing it in, just tomake sure that you've met your quota
of one episode per month, and it'sout there, here's my marketing, and
(21:19):
you're done, ready for the next one,and then you go back to obviously,
Being super passionate about creatinggreat, podcasts and great experiences
for your clients who then can see theresults and the effects of that work.
So I feel that the your passion side ismore geared towards the behind the scenes
as opposed to front end stuff, right?
Neal (21:40):
I think I'd agree with that.
I think, yeah, it's a different,it's a different approach,
obviously, and there's a differentoutput, but I think, yeah, for me.
Sitting down and recordingsomething into a microphone.
It's usually done becauseI'm, it's a means to an end.
It's either it's a marketing thing,be it with the PodMastery, which
is very much, I enjoy doing it.
Don't get me wrong.
I love to do the PodMastery podcast, butit doesn't hold that same passion for me.
(22:06):
I try and put a bit of asmuch of me into it as I can.
But it's never going to fill mewith as much joy as getting someone
else and putting their brand outthere and getting them the results.
It's just a weird block that I'vegot mentally around it where, of
course I love doing it, but I preferdoing other things for other people.
Danny (22:26):
It's like they say you've got great voices for, what
is it, great voices for TV?
Great face for radio.
Great face for podcasting.
Neal (22:34):
I've heard that one before.
That's why I never went into TV, mate.
Danny (22:38):
You know what?
I was like doing a show, I think Iwas a guest on a show a while back
and someone said that, and I don'tthink they meant it to be mean.
But as the way it came across, I thinkit was more because of my accent and this
was a North American podcaster, so itsounded a bit more exotic, if you like.
But they said, oh, you've got agreat voice for, do you do video?
Something like this.
Do you do video?
(22:58):
I don't.
I only do audio.
Yeah, I can see why.
Neal (23:03):
Wow.
How rude.
Danny (23:07):
I do feel they were on about the vocal, but I didn't
really want to push them.
I'm not George Clooney.
So I can understand that, but I thoughtthat was an interesting choice of a
phrase to come and introduce me with.
We'll see.
Anyway, so there you go.
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Alrighty, so we're about three,we are at, there's no about it.
We're three fifths of the waythrough, so let's go and see what
question number four holds for us.
Okay, I have a little guess.
Or maybe I've got a guess onwhat this might be, but you might
already be fluent, so we shall see.
Question number four.
If you could learn any languagefluently, what would it be?
Neal (24:19):
Your guess would be correct.
You obviously picked up onthe Costa Rican wife thing.
Yeah, Spanish.
I did try.
When we first met, I did try and learn it.
I'll be completely honest.
I picked up maybe, I don't know.
10 percent of conversational Spanish.
I actually had, this was in the days when,you had to literally download stuff to
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your MP3 devices because we didn't haveiPhones that were connected directly to
Spotify and Apple podcasts back then.
I had this audio book and the name of thechap that read the audio book escapes me
now, but he was a Portuguese fella and hetaught pretty much every single language.
And one of those languages was Spanish.
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And I loved the way that he didit because rather than saying,
saying and is E and saying youis do and all this sort of stuff.
And the way that we tend to learnbasic, languages, he would literally
go straight in with an immersion.
So it was like you're in a shop and youwant to buy a loaf of bread and some milk.
How are you going to do this?
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And then he'd do roleplaying and things like that.
And I found that really helpful formy then younger brain to absorb it.
But it's like anything.
You get to a certain age.
I started this when Iwas about 31, I'm 48 now.
And by the time I got to about 33, I wasjust like, I'm too old to learn language.
And I just got lazy, honestly.
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And what I found was that talking tomy in laws, I was getting by enough.
I thought now I think Ican just chill out on this.
But of course, like anything,you don't use it, you lose it.
And so I've.
Definitely, I frustrate my mother in lawbecause she's trying to talk to me and
she's asking me for more wine and I'm nothearing her because I'm not understanding
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so she goes with an empty glass for aboutten minutes too long and so I get told
off yeah, it would be really nice to beable to just click a button in the head
and then suddenly be fluent in Spanishso I can talk to my family and please
my wife and get her off my back and talkto some of their friends whenever we go
on holiday, which we do quite often goback to the States and visit with them.
(26:29):
So yeah, that would be definitelymy number one now, I think, to learn
rather than French, which to be honest,Academically, I probably could do it.
Danny (26:39):
I think that's it.
I don't know what the UK is like now.
I know when I was at like primary schoolinto high school in the UK, French was
I think it was an option, actually.
French and German.
That was the twolanguages you could learn.
And I took both.
But after I left highschool, I didn't use them.
So they just went by the wayside.
But I'm wondering, I'm thinking of theModern Family here as well, actually.
When your wife gets angry at you, does sherattle off in Spanish and you're thinking,
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I really wish I knew what Spanish was now?
Neal (27:07):
The problem is I know exactly what she's saying when she's riffing
off in Spanish with the swear words.
Absolutely.
And it makes it more painful becauseI know exactly what she's saying.
But yeah, that is, the funnything is that Modern Family, the
Spanglish, all those stereotyped.
Movies and television shows where you'vegot the angry Latina in the house.
That is not fabricated.
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That's not an exaggeration.
That is exactly what it is likebeing with, living with, or even
conversing with an angry Latina woman.
Danny (27:39):
You got that passion, right?
They've always, I always findthat culture very passionate
about most things that they do.
So I can see that.
And it's funny you mentionedlike the stereotypical approaches
of movies, TV shows, et cetera.
I used to watch a show back in the UK.
You could probably remember as well,I would imagine Mind Your Language.
Neal (27:56):
Ah, yes.
Danny (27:57):
Yeah.
And I keep seeing little clips ofthat on YouTube now and again, and
I am not sure if some of that couldbe, presented today or go out as a
TV show today, because I feel someof that was very near the knuckle.
Not that it was, not that it'd getcancelled to use a term that gets
bandied about rightly and wronglytoday, but I feel that was really
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funny, but I can also see that,struggling to get maybe produced today.
Neal (28:21):
Oh, 100%.
It would be pulled off theair as soon as it was aired.
It's yeah, sad, but there we are.
That's the world we live in now.
Danny (28:31):
Top tips then.
If you want to, not upset Neal, but ifyou want to confuse Neal, speak Spanish.
Just learn the basics of Spanishand speak Spanish in front of him.
Alright, we've reached the end almost.
We're in the home straight now.
Coming in to question number five.
Let's see what we've got for this one.
Haha, okay.
I'm curious about this because Ifeel this is, this the terminology
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is very British, I feel.
Could be wrong.
Could be a more global thing.
But Neal.
Question number five.
What was the best thingbefore sliced bread?
Neal (29:05):
The knife.
Isn't it obvious?
Danny (29:10):
Ah, my grief, that's the shortest answer ever.
And now we're roll out of time.
Neal (29:16):
Really, it's what do they call it?
It's not Schrodinger's cat, is it?
It's some somebody's dog.
It's like the, Most obviousanswer is normally the right one.
I think that really You can'tslice bread without a knife.
How can sliced bread be the best thing?
Danny (29:31):
You could use a spoon, maybe.
It'd be uneven.
Neal (29:34):
It wouldn't look very well sliced!
Danny (29:38):
Yeah, but maybe that's what Oh, you know what?
Maybe There weren't knivesbefore sliced bread.
Maybe people used spoons.
Oh, that doesn't look good, doesn't it?
They look better than that, doesn't it?
My presentation's awful.
I can't show that toQueen Mary or Aunt Nancy.
So then they thought weneed something sharper.
What's sharp?
I don't know.
We'll create something.
Neal (29:56):
If ever the podcasting thing dries up, Danny, I think you've
got a great future as a politician.
You're able to take something thatis clearly undebatable and debate it
Danny (30:05):
still.
There's a joke in there aboutmass debates and we can't,
it's too, it's a too easy one.
We won't go there.
That's, I could never be apolitician in all honesty.
I like the abuse and stuffthat they get thrown at them.
I, and I feel, I can'tremember who said it.
There was a comedian.
And I, I think it might have beenGeorge Carlin actually that said the
very fact that someone wants to be apolitician and the power that comes
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with that is the very reason theyshouldn't be a politician, which I
always thought was a really good thing.
Obviously there's great politiciansout there, but then you look at
some and obviously in the UK,you've just had an election.
There's been all sorts of crazinessleading up to that, point in time.
So yeah, I.
Politicians, I will givethat a pass, I feel, mate.
Neal (30:48):
Probably sensible, to be honest.
Although I hear the parties are great.
Yeah, exactly.
Danny (30:53):
I heard of them.
They're really good.
I'm going to, I'm going to take theknife out of the equation, okay?
I'm going to cheat here.
I know that was your answer and generallyI would allow it, but no, I'm going
to take the knife out of the equation.
Neal (31:04):
Your
show your rules, Danny.
Danny (31:05):
That's fine.
So before the knife then, priorto the knife, what was the
best thing before sliced bread?
Neal (31:11):
Ladies and gentlemen, Danny is obviously one of the linesmen
from one of the England gamesin the Euros recently and just
changing the roles as he goes along.
That's absolutely fine.
I would say then, in which case, beforeSliced Bread, what was the best thing?
Surely, it has to be
Music.
Danny (31:27):
Any particular genre?
Just music.
Just the creative outlet of music.
Neal (31:31):
I think we have to give props to the OGs, don't we?
It has to be the old classicalguys like Mozart, Beethoven,
because, let's be honest about it.
Without them, we wouldn't have, anyof the Bebe Rexhas or David Guetta
or any of the other nonsense thatthe kids are listening to these days.
So yeah, I think with music is a, issomething which now this is interesting
(31:56):
actually, because what's interestingfor me, it's probably dull as ditch
water for you and your listeners.
But for me, it's quite impactfulthat I can, even though I don't work
directly in the music industry anymore,I was a, as I mentioned, I was a radio
broadcast of many years and radiomusic was a big part of that job.
And much like we alluded toearlier with busman's holiday, when
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you're Doing something for a job.
The last thing you want to do reallyis go home and do more of that.
So listening to music, focusing onit and listening with the headphones
on my head when I got home from workwasn't something I did often, but when
I did, obviously I was listening tothe sort of music that I absolutely
wanted to listen to, not the stuff Iwas paid to churn out on the speakers.
(32:38):
And I still now to this day,I will still find myself if I
really need to get into sort of aplace of Zen or calm or whatever.
I will stick some classical music on andit's really, I never would, I was never
into classical music when I was younger.
My dad was a big fan.
He was into opera and, the Pavarotti'sand Domingo's and the classical
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pieces and, orchestral, you name it.
He was into all that, but I never was.
And I found myself thinking,Dad, what do you see in all this?
It's just a bunch of string instrumentsplaying random notes, but As you get
older, I think you start to appreciateolder music, and more recently, I'd say
about five to ten years ago, I starteddiscovering the Beatles and listening
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to some of their stuff and appreciatingit, and Yeah, I think music, it's one
of those things that it just bringsus together, it equalises everything
and it just brings focus to us.
Danny (33:32):
And as the Spanish national team showed, you don't need words to
go with music, you can still enjoy it.
Neal (33:38):
Nice callback, I love it.
It's like you've done this before.
Danny (33:42):
Oh, I don't know.
But yeah, music, like yousay, it's a big connector.
You don't have to know the language.
You could, I don't understand,obviously, the language of opera.
But I can appreciate the emotion that'sclearly coming through from the singer.
And I think that's a great call.
All right, Neal.
So we've reached the end.
We've made it through thefive random questions.
And I appreciate your willingnessto share and open up on that.
(34:05):
As is the want to makeit fair on every guest.
I obviously do allow you, andI'm not going to say allow.
I've said that before.
That's wrong.
I encourage you to share arandom question of your own.
So hit me up with yourown random question.
Neal (34:19):
This one's actually very similar to one of the questions that I had in a sort
of way and you'll get this in a moment.
But if you could instantlymaster any new skill, hobby,
or talent with zero practice.
You wake up one morning and it's there.
What would it be?
Danny (34:39):
That's a good one.
See, part of me wants to say pottery.
I don't know why it'sjust popped up my head.
It just seemed like anice relaxing thing to do.
I was probably watching aYouTube video the other day that
mentioned pottery for some reason.
I feel that it needs to be somethingthat would benefit my wife because she
does all this stuff around the house.
Neal (34:59):
You know who's boss.
Danny (35:01):
She does a lot of the driving and everything, with the
kids, gets them to sports, etc.
So I feel that Yeah, I'm gonnaactually go with that, actually.
So my wife does a lot of crafting.
She owns a Cricut, which makes,she's got like the laser cutter
and the steel cutter and all that.
So she'll make a wholebunch of really cool crafts.
And her goal is to do it for fun.
And we've talked about maybe,set up a little online store
or a local store where we live.
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We're in a little village aboutthree hours north of Toronto.
So it's great in the summer becausea lot of cottagers come up and it's a
nice boom industry for tourists, etc.
So it'd be cool to make stuff thatwe could sell, from the house, etc.
So I'm going to say.
If I could wake up tomorrow and be asexpert as the people that's teaching
(35:43):
my wife craft courses, et cetera,so I could just do all that while
she's out with the kids at the sportsand all that would be my skill set.
I think about effort away from herside because she still wants to
come home, do all the craft and thenI'll look for opportunity to market.
So that would be, I think, mate,
Neal (35:59):
I love it.
And now we've understoodfully why why Danny's wife.
Is so committed to him becausehe's obviously a lovely man.
It's always wanted totake work off her hands.
Danny (36:08):
Yeah it's happy wife, happy life.
Isn't that the phrase?
Neal (36:13):
Yeah, I keep getting told this.
I need to learn that one.
Don't
I?
Danny (36:15):
I think I don't know what that would be for husbands because there's
no rhyming word for husband, is there?
I don't know that we are just happy.
We just as long as we've gota Sunday roast and an ice beer
in front of us, life is good.
Life is good.
Neal (36:30):
Yeah.
Danny (36:30):
So Neal, before I let you go, mate, obviously I do want to encourage listeners
to check out, your podcast productionagency, and all the cool stuff that you
do for clients and other podcasters.
So where's the best place to find out moreabout that and connect with you online.
Neal (36:43):
I would be delighted if anybody would want to connect on LinkedIn.
I love LinkedIn.
I live pretty much on LinkedIn.
I'm also on Twitter.
I'm not on there as often thesedays, it's always good to chat
to fellow podcast enthusiasts.
So by all means, look me up on there.
If you're looking from the sort of likethe, the podcasting services and advice
(37:03):
point of view, then pod knows podcasting.
co.
uk is where I get the bills paid.
Danny (37:09):
And I'll be sure to leave all these links in the show notes.
So whichever app you'relistening to this episode on.
Make sure to check them out.
They'll link out directlyto Neal and his website.
So again, Neal, thanks for takingpart today in 5 Random Questions.
Neal (37:21):
No, thanks for having me.
It's been an absolutepleasure and great fun.
Danny (37:25):
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Until the next time, keepasking those questions.
The funny thing is that Modern Family, the Spanglish, all those
stereotyped movies and television showswhere you've got the angry Latina in
the house, that is not fabricated.
That's not an exaggeration.
That is exactly what it is likebeing with, living with, or even
conversing with an angry Latina woman.
Danny (00:21):
Hi, and welcome to 5 Random Questions, the show where
every question is an adventure.
I'm your host Danny Brown.
And each week, I'll be askingmy guests five questions created
by a random question generator.
The guest has no idea what thequestions are, and neither do I,
which means this could go either way.
So sit back, relax, and let'sdive into this week's episode.
Today's guest is Neal Veglio,who's the owner of podcast
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agency Podknow Podcasting.
which helps deliver real world resultsto serious podcasters and organizations.
He's also the founder of Podmastery,a service and podcast that helps
you increase your podcast success.
And as someone who's been in thepodcasting space since 2001, he's
probably older than 98 percentof all podcasters out there.
So be gentle if you see himdown your local supermarket.
(01:05):
Neal, welcome to the show, mate.
Neal (01:07):
Thank you, young Danny.
Appreciate your kindnessthere about my age.
Danny (01:14):
That's yeah, I thought I was speaking to Emperor Palpatine there.
Oh, he's coming in there.
A little bit of Palpatine, a littlebit of Animal from the Muppets,
and maybe even a tiny piece ofYoda in there for a good measure.
How
are
you doing, Neal?
Neal (01:26):
I'm fantastic.
I'm really excited because I get tobe on your brand new podcast that's
only been going for a few weeks now.
Yeah really good.
And, fresh, I'm going to do it because youwon't, because you're Mr Diplomatic, Fresh
from your company's amazing live streamwhere you unveiled a load of new features.
So I'm loving podcasting today.
Danny (01:45):
Yeah, thanks, mate.
And yeah, I'm for listeners thatdon't know, I'm the head of podcaster
support and experience at Captivate.
fm.
And we had a feature release ora feature update, earlier today.
goes out tomorrow as we're recording this.
And so we did a live stream.
The CEO and co founder Mark Asquithdid the live stream for that.
And it was cool.
Neal was in the old chat therechucking his comments at us
and being a nice supporter.
(02:06):
So that was good.
So yeah, it's great.
Excited to see thatcome out as well, mate.
So thanks for all the good wordsthat you're putting in there.
Neal (02:12):
Pleasure.
Always a pleasure to support you guys.
Danny (02:15):
Now I have to get the elephant in the room out of the way.
first before we jump intothe five random questions.
You're a good, proud Englishman.
We've just finished the Euros.
Did you watch it?
Are you an English supporteror what was your take?
What happened?
Neal (02:28):
I'm one of those typical armchair supporters where I don't
watch any club level football.
And then I suddenly become an expertwhen we're at a tournament level.
And yes, I did watch it.
No, I didn't have any expectations.
And very proud of theboys, very proud of Gareth.
Sad to hear he's, he'sdecided enough's enough.
But yeah, I come from thefootballing capital of the world.
(02:49):
It's not like I can'twatch it, is it really?
It's against the law.
Danny (02:53):
That's true.
Did you go out for any games, like any ofthe pubs that were holding it or anything,
or were you just watching at home?
Neal (02:57):
Armchair supported, Danny.
I
don't leave the house for any goodreason, unless it's a really good reason.
Danny (03:03):
When in England, I see.
I got to be careful herebecause I'm Scottish, obviously.
So anytime I speak about theEnglish football team, there's
a bit of bias comes over, I was.
I did want Spain to win it, notbecause we're playing England, I'll
be honest but primarily because ofthe way the media always tends to
build England up pre tournament.
Then they rip into them and they ripinto the players and they ripped into
Southgate, sometimes valid, oftentimes notvalid, and then they start to build them
(03:26):
up again as they get closer to the final.
I can't be done with that kind ofsports journalism and Spain played the
better football throughout the wholetournament, so it was nice to see
that, get them the goal, if you like.
Neal (03:36):
Absolutely.
I think the difference thistime around, certainly from
where I was watching things.
I think that, there was a definite dividebetween people that were being mean
about Gareth and the boys and people thatwere just, they didn't know what they
were talking about, and it, for me itdid feel like most of the country that
weren't the crazy gatekeeper footballfans were definitely getting behind
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them and were proud, it was actuallya really nice tournament this time
round and yeah, you had some trouble,but you're always going to get trouble
when you get a bunch of Englishmen andsome beer together in the same room.
It's always going to bea nightmare, isn't it?
Danny (04:09):
Not just football fans.
You see them podcasting peoplewhen they go to the events.
Get the old three beersat the meetups, etc.
Ooh, we could tell tales.
Alrighty, Neal, so it'sfive random questions.
So what I'm going to do is I'm goingto bring up the random question
generator and we'll see how this goes.
You ready for the questions today?
I'm excited.
Let's do it.
(04:30):
Okay, question number one.
What is something youlearned in the last week?
Neal (04:37):
Oh, that's a good one.
Off to a strong start.
I would say, as he pauses fortime and uses filler words,
you're Jordan Pickford in goal.
I'll tell you what it was.
Okay, I'm going to becompletely honest, actually.
Talking about Jordan Pickford,this is a football related
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what I've learned this week.
I'm glad I didn't tweet it because I sawthe pure vitriol that came back at this
person when they did tweet about it.
I didn't realize that the SpanishNational Anthem had no lyrics.
I learned that the hard way.
Cause I was sat there withmy wife watching game.
(05:20):
And of course, yeah, Gareth and the boys,they're all like, Oh God, save the king.
And I was sat therethinking, hang on a minute.
That's right.
Why the Spanish not as patriotic?
Unlike Ian Dale, I didn'tactually tweet that and bless him.
He came in for quite a bit of flack on X.
Because of that that comment.
(05:40):
But yeah, I'm in the same camp.
I did not realize that the SpanishNational Anthem has no lyrics.
Danny (05:47):
That is interesting.
I saw them.
Like you mentioned, I saw the teamstanding there and the anthem was
playing in the background and nobodywas mouthing, even if you're just like
half hearted about the anthem, becauseI know there's a whole political thing
going on in Spain with the Basque regionversus some other parts of Spain, etc.
And some team members come fromthe Basque region, some don't.
(06:08):
So there's that, that possible, politicalside of it, but he never knew it was
because there's no lyrics at all.
So do you have any moreinformation on that?
How that came about or?
Neal (06:17):
Not a clue.
I've got no idea.
All I saw was a bunch of players thatwere completely stony silent and I
thought, wow, okay they're obviouslyeither really confident or really don't
care about their country, which was aterrible assumption to make on my part.
And I've learned from it.
Unlike Ian Dale, who probably hasn't.
So yeah, it was very surprising, butnow I feel that I've got one up at
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a pub quiz when when someone triesto catch me out and say, sing the
national anthem for Spain, Neal.
Danny (06:47):
Let me clear my throat.
I'll have to, I'll haveto link to Ian's tweet.
I'll find the tweet and linkto that in the show notes, em.
Cause yeah, I was watching it.
I was thinking the really, as yousay, they've got a really steely gaze.
I just thought they were so focused onthe game at hand and what was coming up.
Maybe they didn't want to wastetheir breath singing the anthem.
They wanted to save it for thebattle that was about to come.
But I wonder if there's anyother countries that don't sing.
(07:09):
The Scots don't care.
We've got our national onefrom the Flower of Scotland.
We'll study.
Mumble that if I remember it.
I know Canada is very patrioticabout their national anthem.
The US, obviously, hugely patrioticfor their national anthem.
But I wonder if there's any countrieson top of that, that don't have
words to the national anthem.
Neal (07:27):
I'm sure you'll get listeners emailing in and telling you, Danny,
how did you not know about I know.
Outer Wherever it's called,National Anthem not having lyrics.
Danny (07:37):
See, now I'm going to research that after this episode.
I'm going to start researching thatand I'm going to drop a whole, but
I might not drop all the links in.
I might set up a nice littleEaster egg, treasure hunt.
Okay, I'm going to do a specialgiveaway for anybody that can tell me
how many countries do not have wordsto the National Anthems and what these
words are, just to confuse people.
But that's very cool.
That's an interesting little,tidbit to kick the episode off.
(07:58):
So yeah, that's further investigationis needed for that, I think.
So now that we know that Spain wasnot ignoring their royal family or
whoever the national anthem wouldbe in honor of, let's have a look
and see what question number two is.
All right, Neal, I'm a bit of foodie,so I know what I would do here, I think.
(08:20):
But question number two, what is theone food that you would never give up?
Neal (08:26):
Beef.
Oh, beef.
And in particular, if you want meto get really niche, roast beef.
Danny (08:33):
I'm thinking there's a, I'm thinking there's a Sunday roast
reason for that
here.
Are you a traditionalist?
Every Sunday you've got the roast on?
Neal (08:42):
I'm not as often as I'd like.
Unfortunately, I'm married to a aCosta Rican woman by descent and
they didn't really do roast beefroast family meals in Latin America.
I get treated whenever I go andvisit my mam and of course, like
everybody's mam, my mam cooks thebest roast beef on the planet.
So it's always a treat to go, it'sobviously a treat to go home and
(09:03):
see the parents anyway but certainlyhaving mum preparing a nice roast
beef for a little boy is definitelya highlight in the value family.
Whenever we have a meetup.
So yeah, that's probably, itprobably is a childhood thing.
I think a lot of these foodrelated comforts tend to come
from your childhood don't they?
Whether there's a certain chocolatebar that reminds you of happy
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memories or whether there's youknow, a certain type of dessert or a
meal, but yeah for me roast beef, itdefinitely reminds me of simpler times.
When we weren't all sat with our phonesout on the table when we were eating, and
we were actually talking to each otherand conversing like normal human beings.
Danny (09:43):
Why, I also wonder if the, I love a good roast beef.
I'll make a roast now and again, likeI'm married to a Canadian and she loves,
Sunday roast when I make a Sunday roast,whether it's roast beef or maybe it's
a pork loin or something like that.
But I also wonder, you mentioned,it's like simpler times or
childhoods where it came from.
I wonder now with the influx oftech and phones and all that kind
(10:04):
of stuff that maybe roast dinnersaren't quite certainly in the UK.
It's a very UK specific thing.
I feel a roast beef dinner,a Sunday roast, etcetera.
I wonder if I'm that sort ofgoing to die down and more
people just do their own thing.
And, don't get together as often forthat kind of, family get together.
Neal (10:23):
Oh, that's a very depressing thing that you brought up there, Danny.
That's made me feel very sad,thinking of this utopia, dystopian
future where, families are allhaving their own individual meals
and all consumed in their own virtualreality worlds on their phones.
I don't think I want tolive in that world, Danny.
I want to go back to the eighties andjust eat prawn cocktails for starters and
a bit of sweet corn and some roast beef.
(10:45):
Thanks very much.
Danny (10:47):
Yeah I can see it now.
You look at some, ourkids are very active.
They're like competitive athletes.
My son plays football, soccerin North America and my
daughter's a competitive cheer.
So they're very active in the evenings.
They've got lots of training.
They've got games andcompetitions and all that stuff.
So sometimes it's harder toget together as a family.
And a lot of the time my wife does thedriving, she'll be like, Oh, Be with
(11:10):
the kids and I'm just at home eatingbeans on toast for my dinner or my tea,
whatever you want, whatever you call it.
But we do try and make an effort.
Obviously, when everybody's in the samevicinity, we'll make an effort to sit
down and have that family get together.
But I can see as well.
I completely agree.
It's very much Something I wouldn'twant to see become the norm, but
(11:30):
I can also understand how it couldbecome the norm, depending on, what
your life's and business, et cetera.
Neal (11:37):
Yeah.
We all live very busy livesand you know that the whole.
This is what I think I've noticed as I'vegot older is that, it becomes harder and
harder to make that time for family timejust because of the pressures of business.
If you've got a job, you've got9 million tasks you've got to
complete before the end of the day.
And even with the hybridremote working now that, it's
(11:59):
pretty much become the norm.
It's still seems to be thatoverzealous, overambitious bosses
like to pile work on their staff, evenif they're based at home doing it.
Yeah, it is.
It's a special time and I reallyhope that we don't lose it.
I hope it, it definitely stays with us.
Danny (12:14):
And you mentioned your wife.
Is it Costa Rican, your wife?
Costa Rican descent CostaRican, that's right.
Cost.
Has she had, prior to marrying youand moving to the UK, et cetera,
had she had like a Sunday roastequivalent or not equivalent?
Has she had us traditional Sunday roast?
Was that her first introduction to it?
Neal (12:28):
That was her first introduction to it, meeting me, as if I wasn't enough.
The fact that I introduced roastbeef into a life just may give
us the icing on the cake, Danny.
Danny (12:39):
I can imagine.
And what's her specialty then?
I can imagine she's maybe gota specialty or two for dinners.
Neal (12:44):
Name any sort of, underground Latin American dish.
So you got rosa con pollo.
You've got, all the stuff that youwouldn't get in a Tex Mex restaurant,
basically, the proper stuff.
The pico de gallo andall that kind of stuff.
She really specializes in that.
Danny (13:01):
That's awesome.
I think if I ever get to the Podcast Showin London, which I keep pushing Mark to
get me over to, but no success yet, I'mgonna have to employ your wife, I think,
to make a nice dish, because I love thatkind of food, and that would be amazing
to have it be proper, authentic as well,as opposed to, not that I have a shop
there, but like a Taco Bell or something.
(13:21):
No, thank you.
Neal (13:22):
You don't want to go to Taco Bell if you've got the choice of a Taco
Bell on my wife's cooking, absolutely.
Danny (13:28):
I never could understand why Taco Bell became so popular.
Maybe cost cheapness,the cost and food, etc.
But when you taste the food, I justlike when I never had a Taco Bell.
prior to moving to Canada.
And I, when I first moved here becauseI was still going through the process
and getting my visa or my permanentresidence and all that sorted out,
I had to take certain like odd jobswhere you just try to make some money.
(13:50):
And one of them was a mystery shopper.
And part of that was going to fast foodrestaurants and, making notes of the
ambience, the cleanliness and that.
But because of that, you hadto buy the stuff there to see
what the whole process was like.
That was my first taste of TacoBell, and I was appalled, mate.
Appalled.
I thought, oh.
Neal (14:09):
Thought you were going to say, it was pleasantly surprising.
Oh
Danny (14:12):
no, it was awful.
And I may be better now, I doubt it.
I pretty much guaranteed the same recipe.
But yeah, no Taco Bell for me.
I'm sorry.
Neal (14:21):
You
know that probably, whendid you move to Canada?
How long ago was that?
Danny (14:27):
2006, so almost 20 years now.
Neal (14:29):
There's probably way more Taco Bells here now in the UK
than were here when you were here.
It's becoming a growing brand.
There's even my local town,they've got a Taco Bell as well.
Yeah, it's, they're
coming over
like locusts.
Danny (14:43):
That's probably why people were leaving the UK then.
It has nothing to do withBrexit, it's Taco Bell's fault.
You heard it here first.
Alrighty Neal, moving swiftly onfrom the whole Taco Bell debauchery,
which I feel could happen if youactually had too much Taco Bell.
Let's have a look at whatquestion number three would be.
This, ooh, okay, thisis an interesting one.
(15:06):
Because, yeah, I'm justgonna let you have it, mate.
What's question number three, Neal?
What's one differencebetween us that you love?
Neal (15:15):
Is this between you and I?
Danny (15:17):
I'm, see, this is what I'm, this is what I love about the show.
It's just popped up.
I have no idea what the context isbetween the, so let's go two options.
So let's go the difference betweenyou and I as people, me and you,
and then maybe let's go as cultural.
So English versus Scottish or howeveryou want to approach that side of it.
Neal (15:37):
Okay.
Interesting.
Intriguing.
Okay.
The difference between you and I, ona personal level, is pretty, I mean
we have to go to the work thing,in the, you're clearly someone that
is an indie podcaster, and you lovepodcasts, you're, borderline need
an intervention, to be honest withyou, the amount of podcasts that you
launch, I worry about you sometimes.
(15:59):
Especially knowing that you're afamily man and, time is poor as it is.
Versus me, who is a business ownerwho does podcasting for a living for
other people and would love to domore podcasts for myself, but simply
there aren't enough hours in the day.
So I think that's like the mostobvious difference between you
and I personally, culturally.
(16:22):
Interestingly, I think there's a similarmaybe difference in the creative aspect
in that I think you perhaps probablyapproach your content in a kind of,
I love getting content out there andI wanna just share knowledge with the
world and you're really good at whatyou do with the One Minute Podcast Tips
that you do, which I'm a big fan of.
(16:43):
You've had podcasts in the pastwhere you've interviewed people.
Obviously you've got this now,which is obviously a very different
approach versus me, who is.
So beyond tied down in the minutiae andthe perfectionism of like barely even
getting one episode out a month I thinkI could really learn something from
someone like you culturally where You justgo, do you know what content is great.
(17:05):
Let's just get this out there and, and wejust rush through it and get it all done.
And honestly, when you listento what you're producing, you
listen to what I'm producing.
You can't tell the difference.
So there's a learning moment there.
Neal, stop getting bogged down inthe detail, but I think that's what
makes it brilliant in this industryis that, you've got some people
that approach things in one way.
(17:25):
You've got some people thatapproach things in a different way.
It makes us all reallydifferent and unique and it.
It's just that, without wishing to soundpoetic, it's like that smorgasbord of
different tasty dishes that people cantuck into and find their own preferences.
Danny (17:42):
I almost wonder, and A, thank you.
A, thank you for The kind wordsabout my content approach, but then
B, what's that a little, sorry,passive aggressive because you
just throw it out there, Danny.
You get it done.
You don't care about it.
You're it's out there.
So I see what you did.
Are you monkey?
Neal (17:58):
Not
at
all.
Danny (17:59):
I almost wonder so when I was back in the UK years ago, I'd be,
I'm going to say early, mid twenties.
My age wise.
So I was, I'm still a big gamer,but I was a huge video gamer then
and the Dreamcast was about to comeout in the UK, something like that.
And I knew people that workedat Sega as game testers.
So they'd, work on games,et cetera, to test them.
And the last thing they wanted to doWhen they got home was play video games
(18:23):
because they've been so focused on tryingto identify small little bugs, glitches,
stuff that should have worked, that shouldhave worked and didn't work, etcetera.
And I wonder if that's maybe the samewith someone in your position that does
so much for podcasters and, companiesand production companies, etcetera.
The last thing you want to do whenyou've been podcasting all day long,
(18:43):
For someone else or working on podcastsall day long for someone else is
now go back and record and edit andpublish and market your own thing.
I wonder if that's partof it as well mate.
Neal (18:53):
It's really interesting you bring this up because this actually has surfaced
for me quite recently actually when I wastalking to somebody about my processes
and it is really interesting that.
Obviously I come from a radio presenterbackground that was my gig for you
know nearly 30 years was going intoradio studios in front of the mic
holding down morning radio shows andwriting the comedy bits and performing
(19:16):
the skits and playing the music andtalking to callers and all that stuff.
And I really loved it.
Don't get me wrong.
I really enjoyed it, but it didn'tfire me up in the same way that it
does when I'm actually producing other.
And I learned this producing otherswas really exciting to me, like
the fact that I could take someone.
Who was slightly unseasonedand didn't have necessarily my
(19:39):
experience and my skill set.
And helping them to grow theirskill sets to basically emulate
what I'd been doing before.
And I really picked up onthe fact that I get way more.
Out of doing that for othersthan I ever do for myself.
So I think there's a bigaspect, I think you're right.
I think there is thataspect of, busman's holiday.
(19:59):
To quote a British term.
You don't necessarily want to doas a hobby that you do as a job.
But also I think it's probably thatit doesn't turn me on quite as much to
stick my own content out there in a feed.
and see the data coming back on me.
It really turns me on when I seethe data coming in for a client or
for someone I've been consultingwith or training or, coaching.
(20:21):
That is a different ballgame to me.
And I think That is the interestingpart is that maybe I need to look
at gamifying this slightly more formyself to make it much more of a much
more of a dopamine hit to actuallyget that content out there for myself.
Danny (20:36):
Good point.
And that's it as well.
It comes back to the whole,like a lot of podcasters start
it as a passion project, right?
It's a hobby project inthe might and meander.
Along as a hobby andmeander is a horrible word.
I apologize.
I don't mean you meander because youdon't want to take your podcast to
monetization or growth or anythinglike that, but they're completely happy
about keeping it as a hobby becausethat's what they're passionate about.
(20:57):
They're passionate about talking abouttheir Star Wars love or their love of
Jason and the Argonauts, and the effectsthat Ray Harryhausen did back in the day.
But then, to your point, if you'renot passionate about creating the
content, then the content itself mightsuffer anyway, because you're just
going to start mailing it in, just tomake sure that you've met your quota
of one episode per month, and it'sout there, here's my marketing, and
(21:19):
you're done, ready for the next one,and then you go back to obviously,
Being super passionate about creatinggreat, podcasts and great experiences
for your clients who then can see theresults and the effects of that work.
So I feel that the your passion side ismore geared towards the behind the scenes
as opposed to front end stuff, right?
Neal (21:40):
I think I'd agree with that.
I think, yeah, it's a different,it's a different approach,
obviously, and there's a differentoutput, but I think, yeah, for me.
Sitting down and recordingsomething into a microphone.
It's usually done becauseI'm, it's a means to an end.
It's either it's a marketing thing,be it with the PodMastery, which
is very much, I enjoy doing it.
Don't get me wrong.
I love to do the PodMastery podcast, butit doesn't hold that same passion for me.
(22:06):
I try and put a bit of asmuch of me into it as I can.
But it's never going to fill mewith as much joy as getting someone
else and putting their brand outthere and getting them the results.
It's just a weird block that I'vegot mentally around it where, of
course I love doing it, but I preferdoing other things for other people.
Danny (22:26):
It's like they say you've got great voices for, what
is it, great voices for TV?
Great face for radio.
Great face for podcasting.
Neal (22:34):
I've heard that one before.
That's why I never went into TV, mate.
Danny (22:38):
You know what?
I was like doing a show, I think Iwas a guest on a show a while back
and someone said that, and I don'tthink they meant it to be mean.
But as the way it came across, I thinkit was more because of my accent and this
was a North American podcaster, so itsounded a bit more exotic, if you like.
But they said, oh, you've got agreat voice for, do you do video?
Something like this.
Do you do video?
(22:58):
I don't.
I only do audio.
Yeah, I can see why.
Neal (23:03):
Wow.
How rude.
Danny (23:07):
I do feel they were on about the vocal, but I didn't
really want to push them.
I'm not George Clooney.
So I can understand that, but I thoughtthat was an interesting choice of a
phrase to come and introduce me with.
We'll see.
Anyway, so there you go.
Listeners, if you want Neal to getsuper passionate and yak along for
ages, speak about podcast productionand not about podcast making.
(23:30):
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Alrighty, so we're about three,we are at, there's no about it.
We're three fifths of the waythrough, so let's go and see what
question number four holds for us.
Okay, I have a little guess.
Or maybe I've got a guess onwhat this might be, but you might
already be fluent, so we shall see.
Question number four.
If you could learn any languagefluently, what would it be?
Neal (24:19):
Your guess would be correct.
You obviously picked up onthe Costa Rican wife thing.
Yeah, Spanish.
I did try.
When we first met, I did try and learn it.
I'll be completely honest.
I picked up maybe, I don't know.
10 percent of conversational Spanish.
I actually had, this was in the days when,you had to literally download stuff to
(24:40):
your MP3 devices because we didn't haveiPhones that were connected directly to
Spotify and Apple podcasts back then.
I had this audio book and the name of thechap that read the audio book escapes me
now, but he was a Portuguese fella and hetaught pretty much every single language.
And one of those languages was Spanish.
(25:01):
And I loved the way that he didit because rather than saying,
saying and is E and saying youis do and all this sort of stuff.
And the way that we tend to learnbasic, languages, he would literally
go straight in with an immersion.
So it was like you're in a shop and youwant to buy a loaf of bread and some milk.
How are you going to do this?
(25:22):
And then he'd do roleplaying and things like that.
And I found that really helpful formy then younger brain to absorb it.
But it's like anything.
You get to a certain age.
I started this when Iwas about 31, I'm 48 now.
And by the time I got to about 33, I wasjust like, I'm too old to learn language.
And I just got lazy, honestly.
(25:42):
And what I found was that talking tomy in laws, I was getting by enough.
I thought now I think Ican just chill out on this.
But of course, like anything,you don't use it, you lose it.
And so I've.
Definitely, I frustrate my mother in lawbecause she's trying to talk to me and
she's asking me for more wine and I'm nothearing her because I'm not understanding
(26:06):
so she goes with an empty glass for aboutten minutes too long and so I get told
off yeah, it would be really nice to beable to just click a button in the head
and then suddenly be fluent in Spanishso I can talk to my family and please
my wife and get her off my back and talkto some of their friends whenever we go
on holiday, which we do quite often goback to the States and visit with them.
(26:29):
So yeah, that would be definitelymy number one now, I think, to learn
rather than French, which to be honest,Academically, I probably could do it.
Danny (26:39):
I think that's it.
I don't know what the UK is like now.
I know when I was at like primary schoolinto high school in the UK, French was
I think it was an option, actually.
French and German.
That was the twolanguages you could learn.
And I took both.
But after I left highschool, I didn't use them.
So they just went by the wayside.
But I'm wondering, I'm thinking of theModern Family here as well, actually.
When your wife gets angry at you, does sherattle off in Spanish and you're thinking,
(27:04):
I really wish I knew what Spanish was now?
Neal (27:07):
The problem is I know exactly what she's saying when she's riffing
off in Spanish with the swear words.
Absolutely.
And it makes it more painful becauseI know exactly what she's saying.
But yeah, that is, the funnything is that Modern Family, the
Spanglish, all those stereotyped.
Movies and television shows where you'vegot the angry Latina in the house.
That is not fabricated.
(27:29):
That's not an exaggeration.
That is exactly what it is likebeing with, living with, or even
conversing with an angry Latina woman.
Danny (27:39):
You got that passion, right?
They've always, I always findthat culture very passionate
about most things that they do.
So I can see that.
And it's funny you mentionedlike the stereotypical approaches
of movies, TV shows, et cetera.
I used to watch a show back in the UK.
You could probably remember as well,I would imagine Mind Your Language.
Neal (27:56):
Ah, yes.
Danny (27:57):
Yeah.
And I keep seeing little clips ofthat on YouTube now and again, and
I am not sure if some of that couldbe, presented today or go out as a
TV show today, because I feel someof that was very near the knuckle.
Not that it was, not that it'd getcancelled to use a term that gets
bandied about rightly and wronglytoday, but I feel that was really
(28:17):
funny, but I can also see that,struggling to get maybe produced today.
Neal (28:21):
Oh, 100%.
It would be pulled off theair as soon as it was aired.
It's yeah, sad, but there we are.
That's the world we live in now.
Danny (28:31):
Top tips then.
If you want to, not upset Neal, but ifyou want to confuse Neal, speak Spanish.
Just learn the basics of Spanishand speak Spanish in front of him.
Alright, we've reached the end almost.
We're in the home straight now.
Coming in to question number five.
Let's see what we've got for this one.
Haha, okay.
I'm curious about this because Ifeel this is, this the terminology
(28:54):
is very British, I feel.
Could be wrong.
Could be a more global thing.
But Neal.
Question number five.
What was the best thingbefore sliced bread?
Neal (29:05):
The knife.
Isn't it obvious?
Danny (29:10):
Ah, my grief, that's the shortest answer ever.
And now we're roll out of time.
Neal (29:16):
Really, it's what do they call it?
It's not Schrodinger's cat, is it?
It's some somebody's dog.
It's like the, Most obviousanswer is normally the right one.
I think that really You can'tslice bread without a knife.
How can sliced bread be the best thing?
Danny (29:31):
You could use a spoon, maybe.
It'd be uneven.
Neal (29:34):
It wouldn't look very well sliced!
Danny (29:38):
Yeah, but maybe that's what Oh, you know what?
Maybe There weren't knivesbefore sliced bread.
Maybe people used spoons.
Oh, that doesn't look good, doesn't it?
They look better than that, doesn't it?
My presentation's awful.
I can't show that toQueen Mary or Aunt Nancy.
So then they thought weneed something sharper.
What's sharp?
I don't know.
We'll create something.
Neal (29:56):
If ever the podcasting thing dries up, Danny, I think you've
got a great future as a politician.
You're able to take something thatis clearly undebatable and debate it
Danny (30:05):
still.
There's a joke in there aboutmass debates and we can't,
it's too, it's a too easy one.
We won't go there.
That's, I could never be apolitician in all honesty.
I like the abuse and stuffthat they get thrown at them.
I, and I feel, I can'tremember who said it.
There was a comedian.
And I, I think it might have beenGeorge Carlin actually that said the
very fact that someone wants to be apolitician and the power that comes
(30:28):
with that is the very reason theyshouldn't be a politician, which I
always thought was a really good thing.
Obviously there's great politiciansout there, but then you look at
some and obviously in the UK,you've just had an election.
There's been all sorts of crazinessleading up to that, point in time.
So yeah, I.
Politicians, I will givethat a pass, I feel, mate.
Neal (30:48):
Probably sensible, to be honest.
Although I hear the parties are great.
Yeah, exactly.
Danny (30:53):
I heard of them.
They're really good.
I'm going to, I'm going to take theknife out of the equation, okay?
I'm going to cheat here.
I know that was your answer and generallyI would allow it, but no, I'm going
to take the knife out of the equation.
Neal (31:04):
Your
show your rules, Danny.
Danny (31:05):
That's fine.
So before the knife then, priorto the knife, what was the
best thing before sliced bread?
Neal (31:11):
Ladies and gentlemen, Danny is obviously one of the linesmen
from one of the England gamesin the Euros recently and just
changing the roles as he goes along.
That's absolutely fine.
I would say then, in which case, beforeSliced Bread, what was the best thing?
Surely, it has to be
Music.
Danny (31:27):
Any particular genre?
Just music.
Just the creative outlet of music.
Neal (31:31):
I think we have to give props to the OGs, don't we?
It has to be the old classicalguys like Mozart, Beethoven,
because, let's be honest about it.
Without them, we wouldn't have, anyof the Bebe Rexhas or David Guetta
or any of the other nonsense thatthe kids are listening to these days.
So yeah, I think with music is a, issomething which now this is interesting
(31:56):
actually, because what's interestingfor me, it's probably dull as ditch
water for you and your listeners.
But for me, it's quite impactfulthat I can, even though I don't work
directly in the music industry anymore,I was a, as I mentioned, I was a radio
broadcast of many years and radiomusic was a big part of that job.
And much like we alluded toearlier with busman's holiday, when
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you're Doing something for a job.
The last thing you want to do reallyis go home and do more of that.
So listening to music, focusing onit and listening with the headphones
on my head when I got home from workwasn't something I did often, but when
I did, obviously I was listening tothe sort of music that I absolutely
wanted to listen to, not the stuff Iwas paid to churn out on the speakers.
(32:38):
And I still now to this day,I will still find myself if I
really need to get into sort of aplace of Zen or calm or whatever.
I will stick some classical music on andit's really, I never would, I was never
into classical music when I was younger.
My dad was a big fan.
He was into opera and, the Pavarotti'sand Domingo's and the classical
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pieces and, orchestral, you name it.
He was into all that, but I never was.
And I found myself thinking,Dad, what do you see in all this?
It's just a bunch of string instrumentsplaying random notes, but As you get
older, I think you start to appreciateolder music, and more recently, I'd say
about five to ten years ago, I starteddiscovering the Beatles and listening
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to some of their stuff and appreciatingit, and Yeah, I think music, it's one
of those things that it just bringsus together, it equalises everything
and it just brings focus to us.
Danny (33:32):
And as the Spanish national team showed, you don't need words to
go with music, you can still enjoy it.
Neal (33:38):
Nice callback, I love it.
It's like you've done this before.
Danny (33:42):
Oh, I don't know.
But yeah, music, like yousay, it's a big connector.
You don't have to know the language.
You could, I don't understand,obviously, the language of opera.
But I can appreciate the emotion that'sclearly coming through from the singer.
And I think that's a great call.
All right, Neal.
So we've reached the end.
We've made it through thefive random questions.
And I appreciate your willingnessto share and open up on that.
(34:05):
As is the want to makeit fair on every guest.
I obviously do allow you, andI'm not going to say allow.
I've said that before.
That's wrong.
I encourage you to share arandom question of your own.
So hit me up with yourown random question.
Neal (34:19):
This one's actually very similar to one of the questions that I had in a sort
of way and you'll get this in a moment.
But if you could instantlymaster any new skill, hobby,
or talent with zero practice.
You wake up one morning and it's there.
What would it be?
Danny (34:39):
That's a good one.
See, part of me wants to say pottery.
I don't know why it'sjust popped up my head.
It just seemed like anice relaxing thing to do.
I was probably watching aYouTube video the other day that
mentioned pottery for some reason.
I feel that it needs to be somethingthat would benefit my wife because she
does all this stuff around the house.
Neal (34:59):
You know who's boss.
Danny (35:01):
She does a lot of the driving and everything, with the
kids, gets them to sports, etc.
So I feel that Yeah, I'm gonnaactually go with that, actually.
So my wife does a lot of crafting.
She owns a Cricut, which makes,she's got like the laser cutter
and the steel cutter and all that.
So she'll make a wholebunch of really cool crafts.
And her goal is to do it for fun.
And we've talked about maybe,set up a little online store
or a local store where we live.
(35:22):
We're in a little village aboutthree hours north of Toronto.
So it's great in the summer becausea lot of cottagers come up and it's a
nice boom industry for tourists, etc.
So it'd be cool to make stuff thatwe could sell, from the house, etc.
So I'm going to say.
If I could wake up tomorrow and be asexpert as the people that's teaching
(35:43):
my wife craft courses, et cetera,so I could just do all that while
she's out with the kids at the sportsand all that would be my skill set.
I think about effort away from herside because she still wants to
come home, do all the craft and thenI'll look for opportunity to market.
So that would be, I think, mate,
Neal (35:59):
I love it.
And now we've understoodfully why why Danny's wife.
Is so committed to him becausehe's obviously a lovely man.
It's always wanted totake work off her hands.
Danny (36:08):
Yeah it's happy wife, happy life.
Isn't that the phrase?
Neal (36:13):
Yeah, I keep getting told this.
I need to learn that one.
Don't
I?
Danny (36:15):
I think I don't know what that would be for husbands because there's
no rhyming word for husband, is there?
I don't know that we are just happy.
We just as long as we've gota Sunday roast and an ice beer
in front of us, life is good.
Life is good.
Neal (36:30):
Yeah.
Danny (36:30):
So Neal, before I let you go, mate, obviously I do want to encourage listeners
to check out, your podcast productionagency, and all the cool stuff that you
do for clients and other podcasters.
So where's the best place to find out moreabout that and connect with you online.
Neal (36:43):
I would be delighted if anybody would want to connect on LinkedIn.
I love LinkedIn.
I live pretty much on LinkedIn.
I'm also on Twitter.
I'm not on there as often thesedays, it's always good to chat
to fellow podcast enthusiasts.
So by all means, look me up on there.
If you're looking from the sort of likethe, the podcasting services and advice
(37:03):
point of view, then pod knows podcasting.
co.
uk is where I get the bills paid.
Danny (37:09):
And I'll be sure to leave all these links in the show notes.
So whichever app you'relistening to this episode on.
Make sure to check them out.
They'll link out directlyto Neal and his website.
So again, Neal, thanks for takingpart today in 5 Random Questions.
Neal (37:21):
No, thanks for having me.
It's been an absolutepleasure and great fun.
Danny (37:25):
Thanks for listening to Five Random Questions.
If you enjoy this week's episode,be sure to follow for free on the
app you're currently listening on oronline at fiverandomquestions.com.
And if you feel like leaving areview, that would make me happier
than that time I realized podcastingwas primarily an audio platform.
At least in the early days, and mylack of George Clooney looks and
charisma would not be a hindrance.
(37:45):
But seriously, if you did want toleave a review or recommend the show
to someone else, I'd be super grateful.
Until the next time, keepasking those questions.
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