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August 15, 2024 51 mins

Join your host Danny Brown as he puts this week's 5 random questions to Em. Answers include how the most horrible situation turned into a positive, why you need to ensure her cat is fed in an apocalypse, and deciding whether the afterlife is just a sliding doors moment. Let's jump in!

Answering the questions this week: Em .

Em has been a podcaster for over five years; creating, producing and hosting the film history podcast Verbal Diorama. She's here to celebrate moving making in all its forms, and is similarly passionate about independent podcasting, and supporting other indie podcasters and content creators.

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Em: You know we shouldn't have had a situation like Malala where she was gunned (00:00):
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Em: down for fighting for the rights of young girls to have an education, because (00:03):
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Em: young girls should be able to live freely and have an education no matter where (00:08):
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Em: they live, no matter their religion, the color of their skin, whatever. Young girls (00:12):
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Em: should always have those fundamental basic human rights. (00:17):
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Danny: Hi and welcome to Five Random Questions, the show where every question is an adventure. (00:21):
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Danny: I'm your host Danny Brown, and each week I'll be asking my guests five questions created (00:25):
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Danny: by a random question generator. (00:30):
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Danny: The guest has no idea what the questions are, and neither do I, (00:32):
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Danny: which means this could go either way. (00:35):
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Danny: So sit back, relax, and let's dive into this week's episode. (00:37):
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Danny: Today's guest is Em, who's been a podcaster for over five years. (00:41):
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Danny: She's also the creator, producer, and host of the film history podcast Verbal Diorama. (00:45):
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Danny: She's here to celebrate movie moviemaking in all its forms, and is similarly (00:50):
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Danny: passionate about independent podcasting and supporting other indie podcasters and content creators. (00:54):
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Danny: Putting her money where her mouth is, Em is one of the people behind the Independent (01:00):
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Danny: Podcast Awards, which is now in its second year and recognises and supports (01:03):
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Danny: these podcasters who are creating shows from their bedroom, in their spare time, on their own dime. (01:07):
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Danny: So Em, welcome to Five Random Questions. (01:12):
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Em: Hi Danny, it's so lovely to be here, thank you for having me. (01:15):
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Em: I'm a bit nervous about these these questions I'll be honest because I mean (01:18):
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Em: I know a lot about film history but not so much about everything else so let's (01:24):
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Em: see how we get on, but I'm really excited to be here thank you for having me. (01:31):
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Danny: No, you're welcome, and it's funny like normally as you (01:35):
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Danny: just mentioned some of the guests I've had on have said the same (01:38):
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Danny: thing, it's kind of weird because normally you come to a chat show (01:41):
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Danny: like this or an interview podcast like this, and you're kind of pre-prepared (01:44):
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Danny: about what the topics is going to be, and you know you're maybe talking about (01:48):
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Danny: a book, or your podcast, or anything like that. This is completely flipped that (01:50):
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Danny: script, it is completely random so it's it's interesting to see where each conversation (01:54):
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Danny: goes. It's all been very different so far, so I appreciate you putting yourself forward for this yeah. (01:58):
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Em: Do you know what I thought I thought it would be a lot of fun, because like you (02:04):
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Em: say I've not done anything like this before and I mean, I've I've been interviewed (02:07):
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Em: about the podcast before and obviously I've been on lots of other movie podcasts (02:11):
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Em: mostly talking about The Mummy, I'll be honest. (02:15):
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Em: So if there's any Mummy questions, I am down. (02:18):
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Em: But yeah, I thought this would be a really interesting thing to do. (02:23):
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Em: And I love the idea for the podcast. I think it's a really interesting concept. (02:27):
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Em: So and I've listened to a couple episodes and they were really, (02:31):
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Em: really fun. So I'm thinking, I'm thinking this is going to be great. (02:34):
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Danny: Now I'm looking forward to it. Unfortunately, I'm in Canada, (02:38):
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Danny: so I can't enter into the Independent Podcast Awards. (02:41):
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Danny: But speaking of those, how's it going? This is the second year, as I mentioned. (02:44):
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Danny: Obviously, it's a great initiative and the second year looks to be even bigger. (02:48):
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Em: Yeah, I mean, it's pretty incredible, really. I think when you do anything like (02:52):
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Em: that, you do worry, maybe, that maybe it's not going to be so well received in the second year. (02:57):
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Em: But the feedback we got after that first event was really positive. (03:04):
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Em: There was obviously some constructive feedback that we could obviously work (03:08):
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Em: on, you know, with regards to maybe switching some of the categories around and that sort of thing. (03:12):
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Em: And we've actually worked on that this year. we have a (03:18):
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Em: panel um like a board of (03:21):
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Em: independent podcasts and basically all of (03:24):
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Em: the ideas for the independent podcast awards (03:27):
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Em: are basically discussed in a board meeting with the (03:30):
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Em: board being of independent podcasters like (03:33):
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Em: british uh british independent podcasters uh (03:37):
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Em: of all genres all types uh just (03:40):
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Em: basically we get together every couple of months or (03:43):
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Em: so and discuss changes like what (03:45):
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Em: are we you going to do and so a lot of the changes that we've put forward for this (03:48):
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Em: year with regards to categories and stuff like that (03:51):
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Em: that's all basically been discussed with other (03:54):
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Em: independent podcasts so it's not just one or two people making decisions about (03:56):
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Em: the you know the future of the independent podcast awards it's it's a group (04:02):
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Em: of independent podcasts who are all coming together to discuss what's the best (04:05):
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Em: way forward um and we really like that approach just because it feels (04:09):
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Em: like it feels like it was it's you know made by independent podcasts for independent (04:14):
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Em: podcasts in that respect and. (04:19):
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Danny: I think that's what i like about this particular awards i mean obviously there's a (04:21):
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Danny: lot of podcasts and award shows out there um some massive (04:24):
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Danny: ones um some not quite as massive but generally there aren't a lot i don't think (04:27):
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Danny: there's a many to be honest that are geared solely towards the indie podcaster (04:32):
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Danny: and with indie podcasters being the driving force behind it so So it's great (04:36):
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Danny: to see because you have the new podcasters who know how hard it is to make a (04:40):
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Danny: show and they're working to recognise others in that same boat. (04:43):
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Danny: So I love the whole, you know, the whole initiative. And I know our so-called (04:47):
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Danny: friend Mark Asquith, he's involved in it as well. (04:52):
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Danny: So he speaks very highly of the organisation and the fun that goes on behind it. So kudos to that. (04:54):
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Danny: And speaking of independent, we do have five independent questions, (05:00):
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Danny: all independent from each other. (05:05):
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Danny: So I know your students are looking forward to this because you couldn't wait (05:07):
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Danny: to get on and get these questions thrown at you that aren't to do with the mummy in 1997. (05:10):
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Danny: So are we ready to have a look at the random generation and see what pops up? (05:15):
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Em: Go for it. (05:19):
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Danny: All right, let's bring this up here. (05:19):
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Danny: Okay, just a small one to start the questions off there. Question number one. (05:22):
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Danny: Do you think any kind of afterlife exists? (05:29):
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Em: Oof, okay, we're going in with the big guns first. Okay, do I think any kind of afterlife exists? (05:32):
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Em: I would like to think yes. I (05:39):
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Em: would like to think that we have (05:42):
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Em: a finite amount of time on this earth and (05:45):
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Em: what we're whatever we do with that time on this earth is (05:49):
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Em: whatever we do with that time on this earth i guess (05:52):
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Em: i've always kind of been more kind (05:54):
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Em: of spiritual than religious shall we say and i've always believed in spiritual (05:58):
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Em: things not that necessarily i believe in ghosts um i don't know i've had some (06:05):
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Em: weird experiences in the past with regards to maybe feeling presences that (06:11):
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Em: may or may not have been there, like when I was a kid and stuff. (06:18):
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Em: And I don't know, I just always like to think, I like the idea of multiverses, (06:21):
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Em: which I know is quite popular in pop culture right now. (06:26):
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Em: But I like the idea of every decision that we make in life, you. (06:30):
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Em: I like to call it the sliding doors effect, you either board the train, (06:35):
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Em: or you don't board the train. (06:38):
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Em: And whatever happens when you board the train happens. (06:40):
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Em: But also, you didn't board the train and something else (06:42):
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Em: happened because i think a lot of people think what if (06:45):
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Em: in their life and i kind of think that (06:48):
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Em: that maybe goes similarly into like (06:51):
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Em: the idea of afterlife as well in that (06:54):
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Em: once your soul is done here well then (06:57):
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Em: there's a choice of where you go next maybe um and (07:00):
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Em: maybe there are multiple versions of (07:04):
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Em: existence that are beyond this version (07:07):
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Em: of existence but we will never truly know about it because (07:10):
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Em: you have to leave this plane of existence to go (07:13):
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Em: there you know um but i don't know (07:16):
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Em: i i guess i've always liked to think that your (07:19):
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Em: soul is so personal to you (07:23):
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Em: i mean i suppose then you kind of go into well is reincarnation real but i like (07:26):
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Em: to think you know as a person as as an entity as a being i am different to everyone (07:31):
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Em: else on this earth and so my soul you know that that spark within me that makes me me, (07:37):
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Em: I think I'd feel quite sad if that never kind of had an opportunity to be elsewhere. (07:45):
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Em: I would like to think that that would go somewhere else and, (07:51):
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Em: you know, have a really cool life somewhere else. (07:54):
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Em: So I guess fundamentally, I like to think yes, because our time on this earth is so fleeting. (07:57):
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Em: You know, if you think of the history of earth, We're mere specks in the general (08:05):
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Em: kind of, you know, history of Earth and how long this planet's been around and (08:10):
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Em: the creatures on this planet. (08:15):
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Em: So really, humans are nothing. (08:17):
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Em: But I like to think that maybe there's a place we go to once we are done here. (08:20):
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Em: Because, you know what, you live 80, 90, maybe 100 years if you're lucky. (08:27):
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Em: So, yeah, there must be somewhere else. (08:33):
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Danny: I'm hoping, and I say this in the kind, not the kindest way, that's the wrong word. (08:36):
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Danny: I say it in some kind of way. I'm hoping I don't live to 100. (08:42):
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Danny: I i feel um just personally (08:45):
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Danny: i feel that'd be a lot of you know you get (08:48):
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Danny: tired of stuff but i mean that's just me an interesting point you (08:51):
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Danny: you lifted you you raised there um where you're (08:54):
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Danny: on about the the multiverse you know the multiple almost like (08:57):
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Danny: the multiple personas of us that may be (09:00):
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Danny: existing and experiencing different versions of (09:03):
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Danny: the same moment and there's a well-known sort of (09:06):
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Danny: like trope that every person on the (09:09):
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Danny: planet has got a doppelganger somewhere else on the (09:12):
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Danny: planet do you think that might be tying to your your thinking around there's (09:15):
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Danny: someone else that looks exactly like you that acts like you that speaks like (09:20):
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Danny: you living a life somewhere on the other side of the world that's actually a (09:23):
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Danny: second part of you like a spiritual part of you that's doing the opposite of (09:27):
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Danny: what you're doing in your current form (09:32):
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Em: I mean it could be i mean if you take the idea of the (09:34):
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Em: sliding doors theory uh which is a (09:37):
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Em: great movie by the way everything always comes back to movies for me um (09:40):
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Em: and you know the idea that you make a decision and that decision can basically (09:43):
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Em: change the course of your entire life you know basically whether you decide (09:48):
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Em: to board the train or whether you do manage to board the train or not and i've (09:53):
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Em: had many experiences in my life (09:58):
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Em: one of the things that I always come to because I (10:00):
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Em: guess I'm a big believer in fate (10:04):
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Em: and that it ultimately you (10:06):
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Em: always end up where you're supposed to end up but about 20 years ago I was in (10:10):
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Em: quite a bad car accident and it was basically um a driver he he was driving (10:15):
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Em: on the wrong side of the road and he hit me head on so there was nothing I could (10:22):
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Em: do it was him that was at fault. (10:26):
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Em: But I can't remember who said it to me someone I think it (10:30):
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Em: might have been my mum or something saying well you know if if (10:32):
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Em: you'd have only left the house five minutes earlier or five minutes later (10:35):
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Em: that wouldn't have been you you know they would have hit someone else and then (10:38):
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Em: you kind of think well that's absolutely true you know if I'd have left five (10:42):
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Em: minutes earlier or five minutes later that guy could have hit someone else or (10:47):
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Em: he may have ended up in a ditch somewhere and maybe be in another version of that, (10:50):
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Em: I didn't get hit and I carried on my journey and I ended up wherever I ended (10:56):
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Em: up and my life took a completely different path. (11:01):
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Em: I feel like there is a high possibility that there are versions of ourselves (11:04):
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Em: that are out there that maybe. (11:11):
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Em: Maybe I don't know I feel like I'm I feel like I'm talking rubbish now (11:15):
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Em: but but maybe you (11:18):
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Em: know from that event I don't know (11:22):
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Em: I feel like I feel like that has to be you know like people talk about the um (11:24):
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Em: the Mandela effect where things that you remember are not quite how you remember (11:30):
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Em: them and people talk about like different dimensions and like in a different (11:36):
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Em: dimension it's it is what (11:40):
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Em: you think it is but it's like there are like these mirror (11:43):
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Em: dimensions and stuff like that like I mean I think it's all fascinating stuff (11:46):
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Em: I don't think we'll ever truly prove it but I (11:49):
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Em: think there are some fascinating ideas out there (11:52):
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Em: with regards to different universes and (11:55):
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Em: different you know different things that have (11:59):
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Em: happened and it's like it like in Loki like (12:01):
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Em: it causes like a split in in time (12:05):
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Em: and you end up with all of these different like branches kind (12:08):
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Em: of going off like with different versions of different people and (12:11):
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Em: I think it's it's wholly possible to say it's definitely possible to have a (12:15):
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Em: doppelganger I've had people come up to me and say oh I saw you the other day (12:18):
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Em: you were at so-and-so and I'm like no I wasn't and genuinely people have said (12:22):
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Em: that to me and I don't think I've got like I don't think that there are many (12:26):
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Em: people out there who probably do look a lot like me. (12:31):
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Em: But I I suppose I've never met anyone who looks like me so (12:34):
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Em: apart from my sister maybe they saw or my sister but you (12:37):
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Em: know it's just like weird really strange things and (12:40):
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Em: you kind of like add them up in your mind and you're like do you know (12:43):
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Em: what all of these strange things that happen to you when you (12:46):
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Em: do have like spiritual like experiences when you're a kid and like I used I (12:49):
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Em: used to think that I could see my recently deceased grandma on the end of my (12:54):
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Em: bed when I was a kid and maybe maybe I did I don't know but you do kind of I (12:58):
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Em: think it's good to ask questions I think it's good to. (13:05):
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Em: Not necessarily take the world at face value. I think it's good to have curiosity (13:09):
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Em: and an open mind as to what could be out there. (13:14):
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Em: And that goes for things like doppelgangers, that goes for things like multiple (13:20):
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Em: universes. And I think it goes for things like the afterlife as well. (13:24):
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Em: We cannot prove definitively whether it is or it isn't. But I don't think there's (13:27):
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Em: anything wrong with anyone who thinks that it does exist or thinks that it doesn't exist. (13:31):
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Em: Because fundamentally, we're never going to truly know it's it's (13:37):
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Em: not a question that any of us on this on this mortal plane could ever answer (13:40):
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Em: i don't think so it's all theoretical at the end of the day but i think it's (13:45):
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Em: it's it's definitely interesting topic to talk about and i'm really glad this (13:51):
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Em: is the first question actually because this is this is a fascinating question it. (13:55):
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Danny: Can either go up or down from here but yeah we need we need someone to come (13:59):
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Danny: back from the afterlife and say hey it's It's pretty cool over here if you want (14:03):
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Danny: to join us. Maybe not as early as that, but yeah. (14:06):
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Em: That's the thing. I mean, there's the movie Ghost. I mean, he kind of comes (14:08):
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Em: back from the afterlife, but he can only talk to Whoopi Goldberg. (14:12):
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Em: So maybe we need to get Whoopi on the phone and maybe she'll be able to tell us. (14:15):
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Danny: Sounds good. And speaking of next lives, it's time for the next question and (14:20):
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Danny: the life of the next question. (14:25):
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Danny: That was a really poor segue there. I apologise, listeners. My bad. (14:26):
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Danny: So let's have a look. Now that we've got that little easy question out of the way, (14:30):
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Danny: let's look at question number two okay (14:34):
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Danny: interesting m and i i feel you've been a movie buffing and enjoying some of (14:38):
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Danny: the culture around apocalypses maybe this is a really good question i feel question (14:45):
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Danny: number two what product would you seriously stockpile if you found out they (14:50):
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Danny: weren't going to sell it anymore okay (14:54):
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Em: So the first thing that springs to mind i expect most people if they're asked (14:56):
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Em: this question, think about, you know, stuff that during COVID, (15:00):
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Em: you know, when everyone was clamoring for toilet paper and stuff like that, (15:04):
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Em: that would be a good answer. (15:09):
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Em: But the first thing that popped into my mind, genuinely, and I think this tells (15:11):
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Em: all of your listeners, the status of my life right now would probably be cat treats. (15:18):
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Em: Because my cat, Evie, she's named after the lead character in The Mummy, of course. (15:24):
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Em: Evie, she's a beautiful cat and she's the loveliest thing, but she really loves (15:32):
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Em: her treats and if they didn't do these treats anymore. (15:38):
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Em: I don't know what I'd do. Literally, it's like, I feel like she would come for me in the night. (15:43):
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Em: I wouldn't exist anymore if these treats didn't exist. (15:51):
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Em: So if they said that they were stopping, these treats are called Licky Licks. (15:55):
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Em: They're like cat yogurt-y treats. They're in like a little yogurt sachet. (16:00):
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Em: And she has a couple of them every day and she loves them. (16:04):
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Em: And if I want her to do something like take a tablet, it's the only way she'll take a tablet. (16:08):
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Em: It if I want her to come in from outside pretty much the only way she'll come in from outside, (16:12):
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Em: is if she has licky licks so I (16:18):
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Em: don't know what I would do without licky licks so I'm literally I'm going to (16:22):
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Em: be I'm going to beg here to the people who create licky licks I don't I can't (16:26):
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Em: remember who it is I can't remember who the the company is but it's honestly (16:31):
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Em: a lifesaver and I've been (16:36):
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Em: out today to the shops to buy about four or five more boxes of the stuff because (16:39):
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Em: she goes through it like anything so that is what i would seriously stockpile (16:43):
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Em: if i found out they weren't selling licky licks i would have to go out there (16:47):
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Em: and buy as much of it as possible because, (16:51):
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Em: seriously when that runs out her little kitty paws are going to be like embedded (16:53):
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Em: yeah uh i will not survive the night so uh so yeah that that's the first thing (16:58):
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Em: that came into my head so i feel like That's the most honest answer you're going to get. (17:05):
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Danny: I've got to give kudos to that name as well. I can imagine some of the fun that could maybe be had (17:09):
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Danny: If your cat's outside, I don't know if Evie's an outdoor cat or not, (17:15):
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Danny: but if Evie was out in the evening or something and you're shouting out in the (17:19):
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Danny: middle of the night, Evie, come and get some licky licks. (17:22):
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Danny: And the neighbours are thinking, what depravity is going on in that house? That's an amazing name. (17:25):
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Em: I mean, luckily, I think my neighbours question a lot of my choices anyway. (17:32):
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Em: But usually, like she just knows it as treats or nice things. (17:38):
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Em: So I'll say, Evie, do you want some nice things? and she'll know what nice things (17:43):
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Em: are straight away so yeah it would be the licky licks and. (17:46):
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Danny: You mentioned it's a yogurt base and could you like replicate that or is it (17:51):
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Danny: just you think it's just like one of these things that the manufacturer knows the secret ingredient (17:55):
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Em: I mean there are other brands that (17:59):
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Em: do something similar to licky licks but she (18:03):
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Em: she's quite particular like she's (18:06):
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Em: very particular with food she's a very strange cat in the (18:09):
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Em: sense that she like a lot of cats enjoy (18:13):
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Em: eating things like fresh chicken or prawns (18:16):
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Em: or tuna or anything like that but Evie refuses all (18:20):
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Em: of those things she's the weirdest little cat she doesn't (18:23):
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Em: even get high on catnip so she's genuinely the (18:26):
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Em: strangest little cat but she loves these licky licks so (18:29):
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Em: I'm just like right okay we'll we'll go with the licky licks could (18:32):
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Em: i replicate it uh honestly i don't know (18:35):
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Em: because i i expect there's a (18:38):
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Em: lot of e numbers and stuff in it i don't know i (18:41):
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Em: haven't checked the ingredients but it's just yeah it's like a paste like a (18:44):
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Em: yogurty paste made up of probably not real chicken not real salmon or any of (18:48):
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Em: those things but yeah i think i think we're safe because i think i think they're (18:54):
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Em: quite popular I think a lot of cats like it so it's. (18:58):
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Danny: Not going to go away soon I (19:02):
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Em: Think I think we're safe but yeah if if covid part two happens touch wood it (19:03):
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Em: never does but if it does everyone else is going to be going for toilet roll (19:08):
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Em: and I'm going to be going for licky licks so so. (19:11):
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Danny: There you go listeners if you want a nice side hustle get out there and buy (19:14):
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Danny: up all the licky licks right now and sell them on ebay directly to em big big (19:17):
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Danny: profit to be made there yeah all right licky licks it is Let's have a look at question number (19:23):
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Em: Three. (19:29):
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Danny: Em, question three. What makes someone a hero? (19:31):
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Em: Oh, wow. Okay. What makes someone a hero? (19:35):
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Danny: Not buying all the Licky Licks. (19:39):
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Em: No, yeah. Not hogging all the Licky Licks makes someone a hero. (19:41):
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Em: Again, this is a really interesting question because I've grown up pretty much (19:46):
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Em: with superhero cinema and the definition (19:50):
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Em: of a hero and what is a hero and what does it mean to be a hero? (19:53):
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Em: I grew up watching it was (19:57):
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Em: actually X-Men the animated series um and I'm (20:00):
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Em: very I'm a huge fan of of (20:04):
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Em: the X-Men uh the X-Men and my people and the (20:06):
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Em: X-Men have always kind of skirted around what makes someone a hero because you (20:10):
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Em: have all of these different characters who come from different places and many (20:15):
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Em: different things make them heroes or or not in in in different cases I always like. (20:20):
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Em: To think sort of stepping away from superheroes (20:27):
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Em: because surprise surprise they're not real uh i (20:30):
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Em: know it's terrible we all wish that like black (20:33):
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Em: panther and captain america were real but um sadly they're (20:36):
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Em: not but thinking of like real life (20:40):
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Em: and real life heroes i always (20:43):
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Em: kind of go whenever i think of like a hero (20:47):
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Em: to me personally i go to someone like (20:50):
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Em: um malala yusuf sai um she's (20:53):
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Em: someone who i consider a hero just (20:57):
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Em: because she was this young (21:00):
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Em: woman who was so incredibly brave standing up (21:03):
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Em: to the taliban just for the rights for girls to learn uh and to be educated (21:06):
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Em: and to read and sometimes i think you don't need to have you know super strength (21:12):
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Em: and you don't need to have special abilities although it's very cool when they (21:19):
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Em: you do have people who who have super strength and abilities. (21:23):
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Em: People who are you know fighting the (21:28):
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Em: good fight for just basic human rights that's (21:31):
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Em: like they shouldn't have to you know (21:35):
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Em: we shouldn't have had a situation like Malala where she was gunned down for (21:37):
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Em: fighting for the rights of young girls to have an education because young girls (21:42):
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Em: should be able to live freely and have an education no matter where they live (21:46):
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Em: no matter their religion the color of their skin whatever young girls should (21:50):
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Em: always have those fundamental basic human (21:55):
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Em: rights but for her to kind of be (21:57):
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Em: so viciously attacked you know (22:00):
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Em: and and almost die for the for this (22:03):
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Em: cause um and the fact that you know she's she's (22:06):
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Em: such an inspirational person you know (22:10):
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Em: and it's like even now she's still out there kind of (22:13):
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Em: fighting for the rights of (22:16):
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Em: these young girls these young women and obviously. (22:19):
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Em: It's something that i'm quite passionate about out being being a (22:21):
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Em: woman you know women's rights are quite important to (22:25):
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Em: me personally because you know i am one uh so if (22:28):
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Em: it's important to all women it's important to me but i (22:31):
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Em: think it's very easy to put people (22:34):
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Em: on a pedestal and to maybe suggest (22:37):
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Em: that maybe a specific actor or (22:41):
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Em: something is a hero because of whatever they've (22:44):
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Em: done or a musician or and i (22:47):
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Em: feel like if that person is a hero to you then they're (22:50):
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Em: a hero you can't necessarily define a (22:54):
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Em: hero because everyone's version of a hero is going to be different (22:57):
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Em: i'm pretty certain that no one will disagree that malala (23:00):
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Em: isn't a hero because i think everyone will agree that she (23:03):
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Em: is maybe apart from the taliban but who cares what they think um (23:06):
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Em: but i feel like (23:10):
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Em: everyone has a definition inside themselves (23:13):
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Em: as to what it means to be heroic or (23:16):
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Em: what it means to you know to be (23:20):
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Em: that hero and fundamentally I think it (23:23):
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Em: always comes from a place of kindness and it's so (23:26):
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Em: much easier in this world to be mean (23:29):
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Em: it's so much easier to be nasty it's so much easier (23:32):
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Em: to have hatred it's a lot less (23:35):
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Em: easy to be kind and I just (23:38):
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Em: feel like at the the root source of any sort of heroism is always fundamentally. (23:41):
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Em: Kindness and you know truth and honesty and all of that sort of stuff but fundamentally. (23:48):
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Em: I think it's kindness so I think anyone can be a hero if they show kindness, (23:53):
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Em: and empathy uh or i would like to think so anyway do. (24:00):
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Danny: You think that maybe the um the word gets banded about (24:04):
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Danny: a little bit too much now you mentioned obviously malala is a (24:07):
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Danny: clear case of an obvious hero for what she's done it's (24:10):
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Danny: selfless and it's for it's for others as opposed (24:12):
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Danny: to herself obviously she's doing it (24:15):
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Danny: for herself to make sure that others can get the education etc (24:18):
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Danny: but then you look at c on the and i (24:21):
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Danny: don't want to get into politics i that i want to keep that away from the show completely (24:24):
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Danny: but you look at in the u.s obviously they've just had the (24:27):
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Danny: attempted assassination on the former (24:30):
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Danny: president and he's been called a hero because he's got (24:33):
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Danny: a bandage on his ear he's back on the campaign trail um and (24:35):
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Danny: that may be you mentioned that about you know people's perceptions of heroism (24:38):
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Danny: and what makes a hero is you know to the to each other but i feel that's two (24:42):
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Danny: very wide aspects of the hero spectrum if you like so someone is doing a selfless (24:47):
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Danny: act and putting themselves in danger from a cultural and national point of view as As opposed to, (24:52):
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Danny: you know, someone that maybe isn't quite as heroic because they're campaigning. (24:58):
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Danny: I don't know. I had a point with that question. I probably just ran away and (25:04):
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Danny: just rambled there, as is my one. (25:08):
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Danny: But do you feel, I guess, does heroism as a word and aspect of life get thrown (25:10):
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Danny: about a bit too easily now? (25:15):
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Em: Oh, absolutely. You know, I feel like, you know, just as an example, (25:16):
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Em: you know, you get some shopping delivered by the supermarket. (25:21):
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Em: Market and and you know the guy carries it into (25:25):
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Em: your kitchen and you'll say oh thanks you're such a hero you know it's just (25:28):
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Em: sometimes it is a bit of a throwaway thing i mean i i would rather not comment (25:32):
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Em: on the former president um just because of yeah but i i feel like the people who are, (25:39):
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Em: within his within his group you know (25:47):
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Em: within his community of course they're going to (25:50):
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Em: think that he's a hero because that is their idea of (25:52):
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Em: a hero and I think that kind of fundamentally goes (25:56):
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Em: back to what I tried to say earlier (25:59):
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Em: was that I feel like everyone has their own idea of (26:02):
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Em: what a hero is and sometimes you (26:06):
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Em: can idolize people uh and (26:09):
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Em: think that they are a hero um because that (26:12):
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Em: that's what you think and in a (26:15):
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Em: in many ways there's nothing wrong with that you know I know a (26:18):
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Em: lot of Swifties for example think Taylor Swift is a hero and (26:21):
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Em: in many ways she is because I mean I love her music I think she's great but (26:23):
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Em: you know would I put her in the same league as Malala probably not you know (26:28):
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Em: it's arguable that Taylor Swift has done a lot for you know the economy with (26:33):
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Em: her tours and you know I know she gives to a lot of charities and stuff like that. (26:37):
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Em: So in many respects, she is a hero, but it's not really comparable, I think. (26:42):
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Em: And I think that's the point, is that what makes someone a hero is very different (26:47):
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Em: depending on the circumstances that you're talking about. (26:53):
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Em: That's not to say, it's not to discredit any sort of heroism. (26:56):
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Em: You know, the firefighter who rescues a cat from a tree is still a hero. (27:00):
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Em: But it's, again, it's not really comparable to the Malala levels of heroism (27:05):
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Em: that we're talking about. (27:10):
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Em: Out so yeah i think it's it's a very flexible term and i think maybe we do band (27:11):
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Em: it around a little bit too much but i don't necessarily think that's a bad thing (27:16):
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Em: you know a word is just a word you know it's it's the the it's what's behind (27:20):
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Em: that word that's excuse me more important than the word itself and. (27:26):
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Danny: I think to your point about the fireman and the cat if the cat's evie and all (27:30):
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Danny: the little licks are gone i think that fireman is going to be pretty heroic (27:34):
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Danny: to get up that tree so So, I mean, we can give it to the fireman. (27:38):
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Danny: Alrighty, moving on. Let's have a look at question number four. (27:42):
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Danny: What habits are holding you back from success? (27:47):
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Em: Oof, okay. I would say there's a lot of self-doubt when it comes to the things that I do. (27:50):
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Em: And I feel like if I was a little bit more brave sometimes, maybe I would have (28:01):
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Em: a little bit more success. I don't know. (28:07):
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Em: It's really hard to, um, it's really hard to kind of quantify it. (28:09):
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Em: And because you never know what's going to happen. You never know what's around the corner. (28:15):
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Em: Like if you'd have asked me a few years ago, do you think you'd be involved (28:19):
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Em: with YNOW doing the independent podcast awards? (28:23):
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Em: I'd be like, no, no, that's not possible. (28:26):
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Em: So, you know, sometimes it is a little bit of dumb luck, I think, shall we say. (28:29):
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Em: I sometimes have crippling self-doubt and it stops me from doing a lot. (28:36):
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Em: It stops me from, I don't know, maybe applying for a job, for example, (28:41):
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Em: because I will look at the requirements and like maybe I'll have like 75% of (28:47):
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Em: the requirements or something and I'll just go, yeah, they're not going to say (28:54):
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Em: yes. So there's no point, you know. (28:58):
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Em: Whereas I feel like if I had a bit more kind of self-confidence. (29:01):
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Em: I might just go, well I'll just apply and if (29:05):
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Em: they say no they say no but at least I've given (29:07):
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Em: it a go just that fear of rejection I (29:10):
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Em: think is always there so I would (29:14):
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Em: like to think I mean I would I would like to think that (29:17):
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Em: I'm reasonably successful in the (29:20):
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Em: field that I'm currently in just from the point (29:23):
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Em: of view of not not really kind of monetarily successful or (29:26):
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Em: you know popularity successful but sort (29:29):
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Em: of in the the indie podcast community I like (29:33):
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Em: to think that I'm quite well liked and quite well respected um (29:36):
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Em: and you know because I'm a nice person um and people (29:40):
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Em: ask me to come on their podcast so uh you know (29:43):
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Em: clearly clearly people do value me so but just (29:46):
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Em: from like a sort of professional point of (29:50):
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Em: view there is a lot of of me holding (29:53):
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Em: myself back because I think I'm worried (29:56):
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Em: about rejection and I'm worried that I'm not good enough (30:00):
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Em: I'm not smart enough you know that that sort (30:03):
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Em: of thing and I do think that generally kind (30:06):
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Em: of is holding me back from success in a way because I (30:09):
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Em: feel like if I could take those steps then (30:13):
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Em: maybe so many avenues would open up to me (30:16):
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Em: but because I'm so worried of oh I don't quite I don't have this qualification (30:18):
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Em: oh I don't quite have that that much experience that that they're the I'm I (30:24):
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Em: don't meet the criteria and therefore if I don't meet the criteria 100% that. (30:30):
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Em: There's no point me even trying. (30:35):
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Em: Um so yeah I think I think (30:37):
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Em: I hold myself back quite a lot and it's (30:40):
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Em: something that I'm getting better at but it's like taking a (30:43):
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Em: while to get better at it because it's (30:46):
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Em: it's always difficult when you you do get you know knocked back because I mean (30:49):
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Em: I have been you know I've you know had like interviews for jobs that I've really (30:54):
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Em: really wanted and gone oh yeah you know I'm I feel like I'm almost there with (30:58):
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Em: this and it's like it's not you know it's not for me at the end of the day and (31:02):
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Em: And it's and it's disappointing, (31:06):
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Em: you know, but I feel like my habit of putting myself down and me telling myself you're not good enough. (31:08):
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Em: There are loads of people who are better than you. You know, (31:18):
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Em: there's no way that they'll give you a chance. Kind of, you know, (31:21):
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Em: that kind of goes around my head a lot. (31:23):
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Em: And I think that definitely holds me back in many ways. (31:25):
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Em: The podcast is kind of its own beast. (31:28):
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Em: So I feel fairly confident in what I'm doing with that. (31:31):
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Em: But even then like I feel like if (31:35):
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Em: only I had a bit more time to do that that would (31:38):
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Em: be that maybe that would be a bit more successful (31:41):
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Em: but I'm very time limited on the podcast (31:44):
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Em: so uh time is something that you (31:47):
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Em: you can't really get it's very difficult (31:50):
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Em: to get time but yeah definitely sort of from me in a kind of a personal professional (31:53):
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Em: capacity I definitely think my my habits of my kind of self-deprecation and (31:58):
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Em: my self-confidence and my self-esteem definitely hold me back this is a very deep question. (32:04):
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Danny: Well it's interesting because you mentioned also that that becomes (32:11):
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Danny: habitual i mean it starts off as a mental block or maybe (32:14):
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Danny: an emotional block um but then because of that it (32:18):
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Danny: turns into a habit almost you're almost expectant to (32:20):
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Danny: you know not be successful for a job interview (32:24):
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Danny: or or a date or anything like that (32:27):
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Danny: you know we've had maybe struggles there and i'm curious (32:30):
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Danny: is it an option so it becomes a (32:33):
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Danny: habit to not be successful with something but to (32:36):
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Danny: counter that you mentioned obviously verbal diorama you know (32:39):
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Danny: the way people perceive you and respect you (32:42):
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Danny: do you make notes as an individual to get over there the parts that you aren't (32:46):
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Danny: succeeding and becoming habits do you make notes of all the successes you are (32:52):
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Danny: having to counter that so now you say okay you know what I am successful as (32:55):
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Danny: you mentioned with the podcast and your approach to the indie podcast Cast Awards, et cetera. (32:59):
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Danny: And gradually that list will become bigger than the non-successful list and (33:03):
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Danny: then then you've won basically (33:08):
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Em: Do you know what i've never actually thought of doing that before so (33:10):
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Em: i might give that a go and see if that helps (33:13):
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Em: me get over my yeah because i think it (33:17):
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Em: is it is it all stems from anxiety and me. (33:20):
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Em: My relationship with anxiety is very complicated (33:23):
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Em: but anxiety fuels a (33:27):
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Em: lot of what what I do um but it also fuels (33:30):
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Em: it in a bad way because I have a tendency to overwork (33:34):
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Em: and I have a tendency to over schedule myself and that (33:37):
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Em: just does not help anyone so I (33:41):
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Em: I'll definitely give that a go I'll write out (33:45):
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Em: a list and I'll I'll see if that helps because (33:48):
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Em: I feel like you have to fully acknowledge your (33:51):
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Em: flaws in order to at least attempt to (33:55):
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Em: be better you know a better a human being because there (33:58):
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Em: are no perfect human beings in the world not even (34:01):
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Em: keanu reeves even though you know he's very almost he's pretty (34:04):
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Em: perfect he's pretty perfect isn't he um but (34:07):
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Em: you know i i feel like there (34:11):
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Em: there's gonna always be an excuse (34:15):
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Em: to hold you back and it's it is (34:18):
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Em: just taking that leap of faith (34:21):
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Em: that's uh that's a line from a great movie called spider-man (34:23):
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Em: into the spider-verse it's just a leap miles a leap of faith and that (34:27):
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Em: scene just blows my mind all the time because it's beautiful but it's (34:30):
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Em: true um sometimes you do have to take that leap of faith and it's you've just (34:33):
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Em: got to get to that point where you're at the edge and you're ready to to do (34:38):
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Em: it and it's for me it's getting to the edge you know it's it's that idea of (34:42):
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Em: actually walking to the edge and and then taking the leap yeah all. (34:46):
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Danny: Righty well speaking of leap of faith we're almost at the end we just have that (34:50):
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Danny: one more leap to take okay so you're ready for this final question yep (34:55):
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Em: Let's do it let's. (34:58):
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Danny: See what we got (35:00):
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Danny: Interesting. I feel this maybe is a follow-on from the last one, (35:01):
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Danny: but let's see. Okay. Question number five, Em. (35:04):
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Danny: What is the most difficult challenge thus far in your life? (35:07):
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Em: Wow. These questions are really super personal. (35:12):
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Danny: I told you this was going to be an easy episode. (35:18):
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Em: I feel like this is a therapy session. the most (35:21):
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Em: difficult challenge okay so the most (35:25):
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Em: difficult challenge actually ended up (35:29):
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Em: bearing amazing fruit so the (35:33):
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Em: most difficult challenge that I have been through personally in my (35:37):
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Em: life because you know we've all been through difficult things but (35:40):
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Em: the most difficult for me was uh going going (35:43):
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Em: through a divorce and the stuff (35:47):
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Em: that came before the divorce because let's just say my ex-husband did a bad (35:50):
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Em: thing and I found out about that from the person that he did the bad thing with (35:55):
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Em: so uh so yeah it was going through all of that it was going through obviously the separation. (36:02):
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Em: During a time when my anxiety was basically (36:09):
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Em: peaking off the scales as well but going (36:13):
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Em: through all of that is basically how verbal diorama actually came to be because (36:17):
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Em: I needed something to focus on that wasn't all of that because my brain was (36:23):
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Em: so there was so much going on in my brain because anyone who's been through (36:28):
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Em: relationship troubles relationship trauma trauma, separation, (36:33):
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Em: divorce, all of that sort of stuff, then you know it's a very kind of emotionally fragile time. (36:38):
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Em: So you're very emotionally fragile. (36:44):
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Em: You feel like your world has basically just crumbled around you and you have (36:48):
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Em: no control over anything. (36:54):
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Em: And that's basically how I found myself in that I felt like I had no control. (36:55):
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Em: Because obviously, he had been off (37:00):
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Em: doing his own thing uh and (37:04):
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Em: and um I (37:07):
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Em: had no control like zero control over anything (37:12):
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Em: uh and the idea to obviously um separate and to get divorced was fundamentally (37:15):
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Em: his idea because he was done so I I feel like when you go through something (37:21):
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Em: like that and you have zero control the The first thing that I wanted to do (37:28):
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Em: was I wanted a semblance of control. (37:32):
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Em: And verbal diorama was that control. And so while it was probably the worst (37:35):
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Em: thing that's ever happened to me in my life, and I would never wish it upon anyone in the world. (37:41):
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Em: And I know people have gone through worse, and I'm not suggesting that it's the worst thing ever. (37:46):
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Em: People have gone through worse. However, it's a very humbling experience to (37:50):
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Em: go through, uh especially when you realize that the person who you thought that (37:57):
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Em: they were is not that person. (38:02):
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Em: I will say that he going through the separation and the divorce, (38:05):
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Em: like he genuinely was, you know, a great person. He wasn't awful about it. (38:10):
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Em: He was as supportive as he could be to me during my depression and anxiety and (38:16):
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Em: all of that sort of stuff. (38:22):
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Em: And I give him thanks for that because he could have walked away and he didn't. (38:23):
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Em: But verbal diorama basically came from all of that. (38:28):
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Em: So in many ways it's actually (38:32):
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Em: a good thing it's actually you turn (38:35):
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Em: a negative into a positive and it's and it's become (38:38):
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Em: this uh this amazing thing that's (38:41):
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Em: just this huge part of my life and had (38:45):
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Em: i not gone all had i not gone through all of that then i wouldn't have all of (38:48):
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Em: this and i wouldn't be here now talking to you danny because it was going through (38:53):
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Em: that that kind of spurred all of of this to happen so while it was a pretty (38:59):
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Em: horrible thing to go through I always kind of say well, (39:04):
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Em: look at what it gave me it kind of pushed (39:09):
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Em: me into this this podcasting arena that (39:12):
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Em: I dabbled in before this verbal diorama is not my first podcast rodeo I dabbled (39:15):
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Em: in it before and I enjoyed it but I kind of struggled to keep it going and with (39:21):
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Em: all of this and everything going on I was like no I'm I'm focused now because (39:26):
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Em: once I'm hyper-focused, I am focused. (39:30):
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Em: So it's hyper-focused. Yeah, let's get this done. (39:33):
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Em: Then my granddad died. So then it was like, oh, okay, now my granddad's passed away. (39:37):
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Em: And it was basically a culmination of all of that, plus my granddad passing away. (39:44):
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Em: I went to visit my granddad as he was lying in the funeral home. (39:49):
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Em: And I said to my granddad, granddad, I'm going to do this podcast. And that's what I did. (39:53):
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Em: Yeah it was it was pretty awful but i feel like i feel like something good came out of it in the end. (40:00):
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Danny: And it's it's almost like full circle we started (40:05):
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Danny: this episode talking about spirituality and afterlife (40:08):
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Danny: etc and the slight you mentioned a slide indoors (40:12):
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Danny: effect and that's a perfect example of (40:14):
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Danny: it there had that awful experience not happened (40:18):
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Danny: all the good things you're experiencing now and all the you (40:21):
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Danny: know the the cool stuff that you're doing now with your creative life as well (40:24):
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Danny: as your personal it would never or it may have happened but not to the level (40:28):
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Danny: it is or not in a way it has so it's like you see we nobody likes to go through (40:32):
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Danny: horrible examples of life but sometimes we have to go through that horrible (40:36):
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Danny: stuff to really appreciate the good stuff that comes afterwards i feel (40:40):
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Em: Absolutely no one knows what would have happened no one knows what's happened (40:44):
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Em: to that other version of Em who's still married, maybe. No one knows. (40:48):
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Em: I hope that she is happy, but I mean, chances are he might have still done that. I don't know. (40:53):
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Em: But that's his sliding doors thing, his choice. (41:01):
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Em: And he took his choice. But fundamentally, I feel like I did okay out of it. So yeah. (41:06):
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Em: It's like life hands you, what life hands you, you know, if life hands you lemons, make lemonade. (41:18):
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Danny: Or tequila. (41:26):
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Em: Or, yeah, or, you know, put them in an alcoholic beverage and get completely drunk. (41:28):
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Em: But I feel like we, like I said at the start, we have a finite amount of time on this earth. (41:33):
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Em: I like to think that there is something beyond, but for the time that I am on (41:39):
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Em: this earth, I want to be the best person that I can be. (41:44):
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Em: Not necessarily a hero because I don't think I qualify but just be good and (41:47):
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Em: kind and honest and have empathy for people and podcast because why not. (41:54):
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Danny: Why not indeed well um I've (42:01):
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Danny: really enjoyed this chat and I appreciate you being so (42:04):
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Danny: open and transparent with your your answers (42:07):
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Danny: I know some of we got real into the weeds there so i (42:11):
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Danny: appreciate that in fairness in every episode i do throw the gauntlet or the (42:13):
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Danny: gavel the judge's gavel if you like over to my guest because i've put you on (42:19):
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Danny: the spot for the last 30 40 minutes or so it's only fair that you get to do (42:23):
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Danny: that to me so am this is where you can throw your random question back at me okay (42:27):
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Em: So this was the first question that came to mind so on verbal diorama uh i do (42:32):
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Em: something called the obligatory kiani reference Now, (42:39):
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Em: I've already mentioned Keanu Reeves because he is the best of men and I feel (42:40):
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Em: like he always deserves at least one mention at all times. (42:44):
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Em: But my question to you, Danny, what is the best movie starring Keanu Reeves? (42:48):
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Danny: Oh, man. I mean, I guess the obvious would be his big blockbusters, (42:56):
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Danny: which is obviously, you know, The Matrix and all such. (43:01):
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Danny: Such um for me personally so i i love the john wick series um i don't think (43:04):
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Danny: that's my favorite i love the john wick series um it's amazing but i think my (43:11):
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Danny: favorite movie of his now is it best or favorite because they're two different things right let (43:17):
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Em: I'll tell you what let's amend the question what's the best and what's your (43:23):
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Em: favorite let's let's amend the question. (43:27):
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Danny: So for the best, I'm going to go with Matrix 1. For the best for me, anyway. (43:30):
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Danny: It didn't, because Keanu Reeves, and I think he'll be one of the first to say (43:36):
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Danny: he's not the most gifted of actors when it comes to, you know, (43:39):
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Danny: the gravita, but he does his roles well. (43:42):
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Danny: He knows what he's capable of, and he does his roles well. And I thought the (43:45):
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Danny: Matrix was a perfect, you know, vehicle for him from an action point of view (43:49):
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Danny: and from a whole, you know, character point of view. (43:53):
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Danny: Same with John Wick. I thought John Wick was amazing for Keanu Reeves. (43:58):
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Danny: My favourite, though, is Point Break. Oh, good choice. Johnny Utah. (44:01):
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Danny: Good choice. I just, I mean, when that came out, I believe I would be in my (44:07):
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Danny: 20s, I think, when that came out. (44:13):
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Danny: And it was just, there was something about it at that time when it came out (44:17):
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Danny: and where I was in life at that time. (44:21):
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Danny: Johnny Utah, Patrick Swayze's character, the whole, you know, (44:23):
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Danny: the bromance between these two, the scenery, the surfing, the whole, the heist. (44:27):
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Danny: It was just perfection. And I watched the, there was a remake of Point Break (44:32):
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Danny: recently, if I recall. And I watched that. (44:37):
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Danny: It was okay, but it wasn't Point Break. (44:39):
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Danny: So I'm going to go with, yeah, it's a split between The Matrix and John Wick (44:43):
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Danny: for best, but favourite would be Point Break. (44:48):
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Em: I mean, they're all good choices, to be fair. uh I (44:52):
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Em: would have accepted literally any any movie because (44:55):
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Em: I I agree with you um a lot (44:59):
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Em: of people say that he's a bad actor I don't think he is I (45:02):
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Em: think he's a wise actor because I feel like he does choose his (45:05):
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Em: roles very carefully and the only time he has kind of gone outside that is when (45:08):
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Em: he was kind of earlier in his career and he was trying different things like (45:14):
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Em: he did a lot of Shakespeare and stuff like that because he loved Shakespeare (45:17):
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Em: so you know he did Much Ado About Nothing which he's great in, (45:21):
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Em: by the way, and really, really hot. (45:25):
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Em: But, you know, and people often point to Dracula. (45:26):
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Em: Um as being the low point but it's an (45:30):
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Em: outstanding movie it's a really good movie (45:33):
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Em: and his performance doesn't take (45:36):
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Em: anything away from the fact that's a great movie so I think (45:39):
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Em: now he knows he knows what he can do (45:42):
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Em: and the whole John Wick series I mean (45:45):
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Em: they are incredible movies um I love (45:48):
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Em: movies like that I feel like they are so stylish and (45:51):
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Em: so well shot and the choreography is great (45:55):
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Em: yeah and and he works to his strengths and (45:58):
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Em: you know good for him I say because and obviously (46:01):
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Em: he's a very attractive man I mean I don't think (46:05):
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Em: there's anyone on this on this (46:07):
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Em: earthly plane that we're currently on maybe (46:11):
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Em: in the spiritual planes as well who wouldn't who (46:14):
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Em: would deny Keanu Reeves because he's good looking man and he's a good kind man (46:17):
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Em: so I think many will look up to him as a hero row for his various charity work (46:23):
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Em: and stuff that he's done in the past um just kind of linking it back to all (46:27):
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Em: the other questions there but yeah those are great choices and. (46:31):
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Danny: Speaking of kind and known media em where can people find you and check out (46:35):
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Danny: your podcast obviously and get to know the cool stuff that you do in the independent (46:41):
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Danny: podcast awards if they want to be involved in that if they're in the uk for (46:44):
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Danny: example where can everyone find you (46:47):
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Em: Well so first of all i just wanted to So huge thank you for having me, (46:49):
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Em: Danny. It's been so much fun. A little bit deep, but a lot of fun. (46:53):
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Em: And if anyone is interested in finding out more about Verbal Diorama, (46:57):
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Em: then, well, you can find me on any podcast app that you found this podcast on. (47:02):
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Em: Just search Verbal Diorama. (47:06):
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Em: There's over 260 episodes now. And it is a film history podcast. (47:08):
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Em: So I like to talk about the history and legacy of movies you know and movies you don't. (47:13):
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Em: And it's a lot of fun. I'm a huge movie nerd just generally, (47:17):
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Em: but I love film history and I love the stories behind the scenes and I, (47:21):
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Em: Yeah, every week. It's full on research every week. (47:27):
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Em: So it takes me a long time to put these episodes together. But it's so much (47:30):
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Em: fun to do. And I learn something every week. (47:34):
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Em: So if I learn something every week, then I'm hoping that the people who listen (47:37):
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Em: are learning something every week as well. (47:42):
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Em: Find me on podcast apps. My website is verbal diorama.com. (47:44):
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Em: And I'm all over social media, at Verbal Diorama, whether that's Twitter, (47:48):
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Em: Instagram, Facebook, Blue Sky, Letterboxd, whatever. (47:54):
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Em: I'm all just always at Verbal Diorama. And people can feel free to get in touch (47:59):
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Em: with me and talk to me about movies because that is the bread and butter. (48:04):
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Em: And that's what I love to do. So yeah. And just on the Independent Podcast Awards, (48:08):
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Em: submissions are closed for this year now. (48:12):
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Em: We're actually in the process of judging the submissions that we currently have. (48:15):
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Em: Have however I think the chances are (48:19):
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Em: fairly good that we'll probably come back for a year three I can't (48:22):
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Em: confirm that at this stage but I think I think we're probably (48:25):
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Em: looking quite good but yeah we're going through judging at the minute and the (48:28):
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Em: ceremony itself is in October so uh yeah fingers crossed for all of those uh (48:33):
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Em: amazing podcasts and uh I think nominations I think are going to be (48:39):
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Em: announced in september after judging so yeah i guess if you are a british or (48:45):
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Em: irish independent podcast and you're interested then keep an eye on social medias (48:52):
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Em: and stuff like that and i'm sure it will be announced as soon as possible uh (48:56):
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Em: if and when year three is taking place awesome. (49:01):
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Danny: And i'll be sure to leave all these links in the show notes so whatever app (49:03):
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Danny: you're listening on or if you're listening to this online on the website be (49:07):
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Danny: sure to check the show notes afterwards and all the links will be there. (49:10):
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Danny: So again, I appreciate you. (49:12):
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Em: Thank you, Danny. (49:14):
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Danny: Thanks for listening to 5 Random Questions. If you enjoyed this week's episode, (49:16):
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Danny: be sure to follow for free on the app you're currently listening on or online (49:20):
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Danny: at 5randomquestions.com. (49:24):
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Danny: And if you feel like leaving a review, well, that would make me happier than (49:26):
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Danny: that time I was an extra on the movie set of Restless Natives, (49:29):
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Danny: which was filmed in and around my home city of Edinburgh. (49:32):
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Danny: If you look super close when the two leads are on their motorbike being chased (49:35):
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Danny: through Princess Street and see someone in the background waving her arms and (49:38):
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Danny: sporting a big cheesy grin, that might be me. (49:41):
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Danny: But seriously, if you did want to leave a review, you can do that at fiverandomquestions.com (49:44):
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Danny: forward slash review. It would make my day. (49:49):
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Danny: Until the next time, keep asking those questions. (49:52):
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