October 30, 2025 • 54 mins
The BCC Live crew recaps nine wild events—from Ironman Kona to the LT Games in Minneapolis and Ironman Florida. Hear behind-the-scenes chaos, broadcast hacks, and heartfelt moments with the One Percent Better team. Tape, travel, tech, and teamwork—this is life on the road doing what we love.
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SPEAKER_04 (00:08):
Episode 30.
SPEAKER_02 (00:09):
Episode 30.
SPEAKER_04 (00:13):
On the tales of Catanooga.
SPEAKER_02 (00:15):
And we are now in Welcome to Panama Caddy Beach.
SPEAKER_04 (00:19):
Panama Caddy Beach.
And in all honesty, we've reallywanted to do nine episodes since
the last episode, but we've beenbusy on the road.
SPEAKER_03 (00:34):
As hell.
SPEAKER_04 (00:35):
And so after Cattanooga, Marcus, who's here,
and let me tell you who's herewith us.
We got Eddie.
Hello.
Julian.
Hello.
Margarita.
Marcus.
Hello.
And Eric.
Fidiglio.
SPEAKER_00 (00:52):
Fidiglio.
It's pronounced Fadiglio.
SPEAKER_04 (00:56):
Okay, we should restart this one.
Nah, we never do that.
That's for sure.
We never do that.
So we had Kona and that was arough 12 days or whatever.
It's a long time on the islandand it was hot.
SPEAKER_03 (01:16):
That's what I hear.
SPEAKER_04 (01:17):
It was an amazing studio experience for the
athletes.
They I think it's the greatestevent in the world, but it's
hard.
It's hard as a staff member.
It's hard.
And we're going to skip overKona for the most part.
But I do want to shout out theKing Cam.
Nick and Aiden from the King Cammade our week amazing.
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Those are two of the best humanbeings on the planet.
They like really care about whatwe're there to do.
And everything they did meantthe world I could talk, I could
do a whole episode about thestaff at the King Cam.
SPEAKER_03 (01:53):
Aiden was calling before anyone got on the ground
from our team, saying, hey, Ijust did a speed test here.
I just set up the AP, I just setup like making sure everything
was how we wanted when we got onthe ground.
SPEAKER_04 (02:07):
And I would say they're like IT guys, and
they're great IT guys, but theydo so much more than that.
It would be it wouldmisrepresent to just call them
IT guys that like they areinvolved in audio and video and
rooming and everything.
And I've bragged about Marriottand my relationship with
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Marriott, but I want to give ashout out to Nick and Aiden on
because of Marriott.
Like they because Marriott'sbeen important to us as a
company because they've takengood care of it.
These are the two best guysnationwide at Marriott, are Nick
and Aiden.
Ohana.
The Ohana.
The Ohana.
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They're the Ohana.
A couple things to touch on inKona.
We stopped using RF for thebroadcast.
We swapped that out for Wi-Fi.
It worked.
Everything was good.
The broadcast looked great, butit was a ton of work.
Yeah.
I know why they rent helicoptersand fly above the event and do
(03:09):
RF now.
Because installing RF everywherethat the chopper used to go is
hard.
SPEAKER_03 (03:15):
Yeah.
Because you just have to paymoney for a chopper and RF, but
you have to do a lot.
You and BCC has to do a lot ofwork to do Wi-Fi only.
SPEAKER_04 (03:25):
Me and John Michelle and Ryan High and Dylan taped
down, not even to exaggerate,like 3,000 feet of cable.
And it was all cable we plannedto run Arial.
And then we found out once wegot on site, Ariel wasn't an
option any longer.
Because they'd always doneAriel, and we had to tape it
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down.
And we we got good.
Well, I've always been good attaping cords down, but as a
team, we got good at tapingcords down.
Julian laughs.
I'm not bragging, I'm just beinghonest.
SPEAKER_05 (03:57):
It's a great skill.
SPEAKER_04 (03:59):
It's a great skill.
And we taped them down and wedid gorilla tape, we did duct
tape as like a protective layer.
And the funniest thing is assoon as we got like 3,000 feet
of tape down, somebody like wedon't mind if you drive your
forklift on our tape job, butlike don't turn the wheels and
drag pallets across it.
(04:19):
And immediately somebody draggeda pallet across it, but it
lived.
SPEAKER_01 (04:24):
And it all worked.
So let me ask you a question.
We're talking about tape.
Do you like gorilla tape or ducttape?
SPEAKER_04 (04:32):
They're two different products.
So there's three kinds of tape,in my opinion.
There's gaff tape, which is notmeant to be outside.
Because once it's once it getswet, it's ruined.
It's done.
And then there's duct tape,which is great, but it's not
super durable and it's not supersticky.
And then there's gorilla tapethat's gonna pull up the
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laminate of the basketball courtyou taped it down on.
So you gotta be really carefulwe use that.
But if you're in a parking lot,it doesn't really matter if it
pulls up the laminate.
SPEAKER_01 (05:02):
No, no.
SPEAKER_04 (05:03):
For the most part.
No.
SPEAKER_01 (05:05):
You got a pre-sweep.
Got a pre-sweep.
SPEAKER_04 (05:07):
So and if I said we weren't gonna talk about Kona,
but I guess we are.
So getting a broom, first ofall, you have to go buy one.
And then they don't sell broomson the island.
Did you have to go to snakes?
So we we got one from HomeDepot, and a whole nother
episode should be like howawesome Instacart is.
(05:30):
Dave discovered Instacart atHawaii.
Actually, a guy that worked withus, Matt, was like, you should
just have Instacart bring it.
And I'm like, I don't have timefor that.
I'm 56 years old.
And it was there like 10 minuteslater.
But brooms are old school.
A leaf blower is how you blowsand off a parking lot.
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And so we leaf blowed the spotwe needed to tape down, and then
the tape sticks.
If you don't sweep or leaf blowgorilla tape, it doesn't matter,
it don't stick.
So anyway, we taped a ton ofstuff down.
And one other small note, we uselike we as a company own like a
hundred Honda generators thatthey don't sell on the island.
(06:13):
So we bought some Generacgenerators, and I get everybody
right now is like, how'd thatgo?
It worked out okay.
SPEAKER_03 (06:22):
You know, uh Generac is just a misspelling of the
word generic.
SPEAKER_04 (06:26):
Maybe we learned a valuable lesson that the generac
generators are safe, so theyhave a carbon monoxide alarm,
and so if you have anothergenerator blowing on your
generac, it shuts it off.
But we figured it out reallyquick because it it has like an
LED readout that says carbonmonoxide warning.
(06:48):
It says it expensive.
That's what it says.
Expensive.
They were about a third of theprice of Honda generators.
SPEAKER_01 (06:54):
Well, generac, if you're looking to sponsor
anybody, we are open forsponsorship.
SPEAKER_04 (06:58):
They were all yeah, absolutely.
All in all, it worked out.
So, anyway, Kona was Kona.
The greatest event in the worldfor the athletes, one of the
harder events in the world forthe staff.
It's hot, it's long hours.
Um, well run.
Like Diana, and we talked abouther last year on our podcast.
(07:19):
She runs the whole thing.
I like working for Diana.
She's like, here's what I want,and you go do it, and you're
you're a hero, and it's reallysimple and stuff.
But that's where the lastforever weeks got difficult.
And meanwhile, while we're inKona, Ryan and Eddie and Scott,
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and who else was with you guyswere at the Little Sugar
Mountain bike race.
And it's a single-track mountainbike race, it's literally
impossible to cover.
There's no choppers, dronesdon't do much because they're
down in the trees.
So we hired embedded riders.
(08:03):
So these are like pro mountainbikers.
They rode electric mountainbikes that we supplied, and they
rode in the field.
SPEAKER_01 (08:11):
It's crazy.
SPEAKER_04 (08:11):
We had to uh that morning set them up, and some of
the athletes were willing towear cameras for us, which is
amazing because everybody saideverybody said there's no
athlete out there that will weara camera for you.
And we said, Why don't you justlet us ask?
Eddie can talk.
SPEAKER_01 (08:30):
Yeah, yeah.
We we had a couple actually wearit on their shirt, right?
Center chest.
So you know, it was kind of coolthat they were very, very open
to it when they turned them inthat night.
They were like, Man, this wasawesome.
I'll do it again.
SPEAKER_04 (08:44):
And the footage was amazing.
SPEAKER_01 (08:45):
Yeah, I mean, it makes all the difference.
SPEAKER_04 (08:47):
So we had embedded riders, we had pros.
I think the winner had one oncamera, had our camera showing
them across the finish line.
Coolest thing ever.
And what was the best was theaudience absolutely hated it,
crushed us.
(09:08):
Crushed.
I feel like every episode werelike, How much more can the
audience hate us?
And this set a new record.
So go check it out.
It's on YouTube.
It's called the 2025 LittleSugar Race Highlights?
Race Highlights by Lifetime.
I love Lifetime, by the way.
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We'll talk more about that.
SPEAKER_01 (09:30):
And what they're audio stand is is the plate we
had to drive around the two daysbefore we rode bikes to find
spots that we could actually seewhat was going on.
Otherwise, you see a half asecond.
SPEAKER_04 (09:45):
And the common message was why can't you cut
down all the trees and justshoot the whole race from a
chopper?
SPEAKER_01 (09:50):
There you go.
SPEAKER_04 (09:52):
But that's not an option.
SPEAKER_03 (09:55):
You know, I uh I'm actually impressed with how
dedicated some of the hatershaters are.
They put real effortspecifically.
They don't know who we are, butthey hate us like they raised
us.
I used to think my parents loveme.
(10:15):
I just want to put that outthere.
SPEAKER_04 (10:17):
My parents love me too.
I used to think and I used tothink this about Iron Man too.
They don't hate us.
They hate them.
But one of the things I'velearned in October of 2025 is
they hate us.
Yeah.
They hate us very much.
SPEAKER_03 (10:35):
They don't know who we are, but they hate us.
SPEAKER_04 (10:38):
We sing shock rock.
SPEAKER_01 (10:41):
You know, I I I really think that they don't
hate us.
I think they're justdisappointed that they can't
race and they can only watch itfrom their mom's basement.
So I mean, if you couldn't raceand you you were watching it
from your mom's basement, itwould be you might be upset at
the coverage.
SPEAKER_04 (11:02):
And this isn't a plug for Gary Vanderchuk, but I
do wish he would come on ourpodcast because I think he would
be a good fit for us.
GaryV.com.
SPEAKER_03 (11:13):
You can follow the link from 500cats.com.
SPEAKER_04 (11:15):
He said the same thing that Justin Metzler said
that nobody trashing you guys isdoing better.
And and thank you, Gary, for setpointing that out.
SPEAKER_03 (11:24):
Yeah.
But we appreciate the shout out.
SPEAKER_04 (11:27):
But he's right.
That people because we're goingto talk about the next nine
videos we made on this podcast.
And how much people hated him.
And how much people hated him.
And I think one thing that'simportant is the only kind of
people that matter today, maybenot tomorrow, are our customers.
(11:48):
Yeah.
And they're happy with what wedid.
So anyway, Little Sugar,Bentonville, Arkansas, amazing.
Uh, we worked with amazingpeople, and the lifetime people
are great, and they bring agreat vibe to the event.
Yep.
And they are bringing cyclingback to the United States.
SPEAKER_03 (12:04):
Yeah, 100%.
SPEAKER_04 (12:06):
Which is cool.
SPEAKER_03 (12:07):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (12:08):
So then go ahead, Ed.
Well, no, the I was just gonnasay the the expo they have is
such an inviting place to gointo, and everybody talks to
everybody, and everybody hangsout there, and that's what's
cool.
SPEAKER_04 (12:21):
Did you did you meet Nat Ross?
SPEAKER_01 (12:23):
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (12:24):
Man, what a cool guy.
We'll talk about him with thebig sugar classic.
So moving forward, because wehave 19 more events to cover.
Exactly one week later.
Yeah, we're still in I'm stillin Kona.
SPEAKER_03 (12:36):
You're still in Kona.
And then you fly in the uhflight from hell.
I was Kona.
SPEAKER_04 (12:42):
I was on a flight that made the news.
SPEAKER_03 (12:43):
Yes.
Because it took so long.
SPEAKER_04 (12:46):
Because we were stuck on the plane for some
crazy like 20 hours.
Yeah.
I mean, and this is on theairplane.
Like, this isn't like in the airor anything.
Yeah.
And so we backed away.
And so I was sitting next toanother videographer, and some
of you guys know who this is,Kenny Withrow.
And he's a good guy, and I likehim, and we're kind of friends,
but we're sitting across theaisle, and I fell asleep the
(13:08):
minute the plane backed up.
And apparently we went andwaited out on the tarmac for an
hour.
And then we pulled back to thegate and they kind of lurched
when they got back to the gate.
And I woke up and brushedslobber off my face.
And I looked over at him withlike a big smile, and he's like,
We haven't left.
And I looked at my watch and itwas like a I don't know, we were
(13:30):
supposed to leave at let's justsay seven.
And I looked at my watch, it waslike 8:30.
So it wasn't the end of theworld, but they had to fix the
airplane, and then they got itfixed, and we taxied back out,
and there was a medicalemergency.
So then we went back and got themedical emergency off the plane,
and then we taxied back out, andthere was another mechanical.
(13:52):
So then we came back to the gateand they were like, This flight
is canceled, but you can't getoff the plane because there's no
ground support.
Which was kind of weird becauseand one guy was like, peace, he
pushed his way out, no way, andit was gone.
And I think he might have beenfrom Pitkin County, if you know
where that is, but he might havebeen working with us.
(14:16):
And then we so I booked a newflight.
I was like, I'm not going down.
So everybody who was on theflight couldn't change their
flight because the flight hadn'tbeen canceled yet.
So I booked new flights, like Iknew what I was doing.
Yeah.
And so I'm like, we're gonnaleave the next night.
And somebody from Iron Man, whoI think very highly of, mouthed
(14:39):
to me, we got you rooms tonight.
And man, that meant the world tome that here's a big corporation
looking out for me.
Like, we got you rooms tonight,don't panic.
And I was like, I got flightsout tomorrow.
And then they're like, hey,everybody buckle your seatbelt.
We're gonna back out, but we'regoing to San Fran, not not
Denver.
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So then I canceled my flights.
We flew to San Fran, but becausethey didn't expect us, we
weren't allowed to get off theplane.
So we were at San Fran for likea half a day.
So my 6 a.m.
flight, my flight that wassupposed to land in Denver at 6
a.m., 10 a.m.
flight to Arkansas, got in atlike 3 p.m., and we got on a
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like an 8 p.m.
flight to Arkansas.
It was rough.
But then we were in Bentonville,Arkansas for the Big Sugar
Classic.
And now we're back in Arkansas,baby.
Back in Arkansas.
Big sugar.
And the rest of the team, Julianhere and Eddie here, who are
with us, are in Sacramento.
Sacramento.
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No, wait.
No, no.
SPEAKER_03 (15:43):
We haven't gotten to Sacramento yet.
We haven't?
No, not at all.
We haven't even hit Big Sugarand the rainstorm that broke
that weekend.
SPEAKER_04 (15:51):
Yeah, but that was the weekend to Sacramento.
SPEAKER_03 (15:53):
No, no, Sacramento was the next weekend.
unknown (15:56):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (15:57):
Right?
No.
Is it the same weekend?
I thought Ed was Ed not in.
I was in Little and had to go toCalifornia.
I'm sorry.
No, no, you were right then.
I was wrong.
SPEAKER_04 (16:06):
Alright, so I'm gonna let you guys tell us a
little bit about Sacramento.
Like Iron Man California is whatit's called.
SPEAKER_01 (16:16):
It it is.
But uh, and they have thesegiant letters that they roll out
Sacramento.
But uh that race is alwaysinteresting.
It's a it's a very uh kind ofdifferent and wild race that
stuff just comes up out of theblue, we're gonna hang something
on this tree.
And or we never put the the uhjumbotron there.
(16:39):
So it's the same thing.
You always run up, you know, alot of people kind of in charge
and a lot of people in charge.
And I think that's what it does.
Sorry.
Anyway, um, yeah, no, I lovethat race.
How about you, Julian?
SPEAKER_00 (16:55):
No, Sacramento went great, honestly.
Uh always it's always awonderful time.
It just kind of feels like arip-off not really being on the
beach.
You fly out to California andit's all the California prices
and stuff, but you're you'rereally I don't know, a couple
hours for from the coast, soit's kind of feels like a I
don't know, backhandedCalifornia, but everything went
wonderfully.
SPEAKER_01 (17:15):
Yeah, I mean I think where it's located, the the run
path and and stuff like that isreally nice.
Uh the bike, you get into theorchards and get out, and um you
see a lot of uh lot of land, butit gets real windy out there as
I was on the motorcycle.
Um but yeah, all in all, I thinkpeople like the race because
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it's a downhill swim and youknow, pretty much rollers and
then flat.
So I mean, I think it's a goodrace.
Um it's getting more and morepeople.
Um I'm not sure I'm a fan ofSacramento.
You know, I like California, butsome of those areas are kind of
for me, because I'm a small townguy.
(17:58):
So it's kind of the big citystuff.
Uh I'm not I'm not all about.
I know uh Marcus likes Ottawa.
SPEAKER_03 (18:06):
Big fan of Ottawa.
It's like the uh Raleigh ofCanada.
SPEAKER_00 (18:12):
Had a great time in Sacramento.
I didn't see the race video.
I don't know if you saw it, uhDave.
SPEAKER_01 (18:17):
I know I we enjoyed making it.
SPEAKER_00 (18:19):
I mean, there were a lot of great stories and uh um
didn't see the video, but I wehad a blast getting all the
coverage.
And um well, I think the crowdliked it.
SPEAKER_04 (18:34):
The crowd liked the the video.
Who is in the video?
There's gotta be somebodymemorable from the video.
Did you guys go?
SPEAKER_03 (18:43):
You guys were in California, right?
Am I who made the video?
SPEAKER_00 (18:50):
I we were there, I received a link to the video.
Um was told to not download it.
Not sure why, but as it goes, umwe did switch up the music a
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little bit, and I think we gotsome good coverage.
Thanks, Julian.
SPEAKER_04 (19:16):
I appreciate it.
Julian Higarita, everyone.
I promise we did a great job inCalifornia.
I personally talked to the racetractor and they said thank you.
Do you believe that?
SPEAKER_03 (19:30):
I a hundred percent believe that.
Because Jenny is amazing andwould never say anything other
than positive things.
SPEAKER_04 (19:38):
I don't know who Jenny is.
I was thinking of Tom Cotton.
Okay, so I promise we did a goodjob in Sacramento.
We'll probably edit this partout.
So Sacramento went great.
Good job, guys.
Well done.
SPEAKER_03 (19:52):
Build it.
Um I wish the uh recordinghadn't cut out just then because
the stuff they talked about andthe story is incredible.
You know what?
I'm glad we got some newbatteries now that we're back in
Bentonville.
SPEAKER_04 (20:03):
So back to the same weekend as Iron Man California,
which by the way went great.
Went great.
We had the big sugar classic bigsugar and man, that town got
taken over by bikes.
SPEAKER_01 (20:19):
Yeah, it's always taken over by bikes.
That town is bikes.
I mean, we we rode the trails onit, you rode them as well.
I mean, it is amazing.
SPEAKER_04 (20:28):
When you heard like Bentonville, Arkansas, the
mountain bike capital of theworld.
Did you laugh out loud?
Oh my gosh.
SPEAKER_01 (20:35):
I was like, uh we talking about the same.
SPEAKER_04 (20:38):
And where's the mountain bike capital of the
world?
Bentonville.
Without a doubt.
100% so many people ride bikes,but we were there for a gravel
race.
And maybe a day before thegravel race, the weather
forecast looked awful.
They were talking about damagingstorms.
Yeah.
Everything from shortening therace to canceling the race was
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on the table.
But the days leading up to therace were beautiful.
Blue sky, you know, perfectweather.
So we went about our way.
We shot 27 sound bites with thepros.
We usually shoot about five orten.
Oh, yeah.
But we are worried about uh lackof coverage on the top half of
the course, no cell service, noview of the sky, Starlink's not
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an option.
And we did have a helicopter,and it was gonna be our
transmitting.
SPEAKER_03 (21:30):
And what I think is the funniest part of this story
is we just talked about Kona.
First time ever without RF.
It was a pain because we had todo Wi-Fi all over the place, but
we did it without RF.
It was amazing.
And what did we do in Big Sugar?
SPEAKER_04 (21:44):
Yeah, we had to hire somebody to do RF.
So the technology that we werelike is dated.
This is old school.
We're the new guys.
We're young, we're 56.
And we had to hire basically thepeople that used to do Kona to
come in and do RF for us.
And what that means is that themotos would transmit to the
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helicopter, and the helicopterwould transmit to space or
wherever it goes.
I don't know where it goes.
Live view.
Yeah.
And so um, we had it all set up.
It took dozens of extra hours oftesting.
We felt really good before thenight before the race, knowing
that weather might be an issue.
And the next morning, weather,sure enough, was an issue.
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Lifetime made the right call byshortening the race from 100
miles to 50 miles.
And when I mean shorten therace, they didn't shorten the
course, they put the athletes ona whole different course because
there was a 50-mile race thatday, anyway.
Yeah.
So instead of giving people theoption to ride the 100-mile
course, they forced everybody toride the 50-mile course.
(22:51):
And when I mean forced, uh therewas the right call.
It was it got dangerous later inthe day, but they had most of
the people off the course whenthat happened.
But we had to go shoot a livevideo on a course that we had
not tested on or driven or seenor knew about.
SPEAKER_03 (23:12):
And about halfway through, we lost our helicopter,
which means we lost our RF andour overhead shot.
SPEAKER_04 (23:21):
Because of lightning, because of lightning,
and so the helicopter had toland.
All in all, I think it workedout well.
The audience hated it.
Yeah, they asked me to killmyself a couple times.
It's the same people in theaudience.
Yeah, hated it.
I was super proud of what wedid.
(23:41):
Same.
I I had the best job of the daythat I went out in a
specifically branded Jeep, aJeep that's branded for a
company card called Orange Seal.
One of the Orange Seal peoplewas the driver.
He was an amazing like rally cardriver.
Like we we were sideways many atime.
Not near the athletes.
Yeah, right.
(24:01):
But where we're trying to catchup to the lead pack.
And then we had a fieldcommentator in our vehicle.
His name was Nat Ross.
We talked about him, like amountain bike hall of famer, but
just a cool guy, positive vibe.
And the very first hit we did,he's like, Here comes the pack,
and a guy skids out of controlby us and fixes his tire right
(24:23):
in front of us.
It was awesome.
It was awesome.
And I've always said, if you goout, and I told everybody in our
team, if you go out with thispositive attitude, it'll come to
you.
And it came to us immediately,and they got what I was saying.
And it was so cool because Ryantold me that they were watching
and they were like, you know,what the hell?
Why isn't he using his monopod?
(24:44):
It's kind of shaky.
And then all of a sudden, I waslike two inches away from the
guy, like pushing the thing intohis tube to plug it and stuff.
It was awesome.
It was cool.
What a great race.
The skies unleashed.
Everything got wet, everythinggot ruined.
Yep.
But all in all, we did what weset out to do.
We broadcast that whole race.
(25:05):
We broadcast the whole race.
There were some potatoes, but alot of potato cam.
And um, I thought the best partof the race is after the winner
finished and I was shooting hisinterview, and I had this brand
new camera.
I'm not even gonna say it's oneof the best cameras money can
buy.
And he goes, Nat says, Tell usabout your race.
(25:28):
He goes, Well, I'll tell youwhat, Nat, what a great day.
And my camera overheated andshut off.
Yep.
In the rain.
Yep, in the rain.
So it wasn't a Sony A12.
I don't care what you've heard,it was not the Sony A12.
So um, and we'll talk more aboutthe Sony A12, what a great
(25:51):
camera it is because and it'soverheating issues that it
doesn't have.
It doesn't have the overheatingissues.
So that's what we know for sure.
But we had a great race.
And we did get out of thereseveral hours early.
Me and Ryan Kelly and the teampacked the van.
Um, I think when the team saideverything's dried off, they
meant we put everything awaywet.
(26:12):
Yeah.
So we jumped.
We jumped in the van and wedrove from Bentonville, Arkansas
to San Jose, California.
It's a 26-hour drive, and we didit in like 30 hours.
I know that's not set inrecords.
Like I know people drive acrossthe country in Lambos faster
than that.
But Rad Forest.
It was big for us.
So we made it to Hollister,California, and then we met up
(26:38):
with a bunch of the San uhSacramento.
There you go.
We met up with a bunch of theSacramento team.
People came who had a greatrace, as we talked about at
length earlier.
SPEAKER_01 (26:51):
And the video had a lot of great athletes in it.
Yes, it did.
And uh, I hate that thatrecording messed up the
batteries.
SPEAKER_04 (26:59):
We we met the Sacramento team and we did an
event um that was called theTwitch Expedition, and it was I
I I kind of like to feel like itwas an adventure race, but it
definitely wasn't an adventurerace.
SPEAKER_01 (27:15):
It was a cross between a lot of those reality
races, a reality very realityshow, kind of and this was a
bigger production than we usedto.
SPEAKER_04 (27:24):
And what I mean by bigger is they had catering.
Three meals a day.
SPEAKER_01 (27:29):
It was crazy.
Yeah, gained four pounds.
SPEAKER_04 (27:31):
Walking through the mountains for five days.
SPEAKER_01 (27:34):
And you go in there, and if you're gluten-free, they
make a special bag for you andthey put your name on it.
Or if you only want to eat, youknow, guinea pig, they fly it
in.
I don't know how they do it, butit was impressive.
SPEAKER_04 (27:46):
The chef was amazing.
SPEAKER_01 (27:48):
Amazing.
I mean, I I told him every day.
He was like, Oh, yeah, this iswhat I do.
SPEAKER_04 (27:53):
And I'm like, and so we had a big team in Boulder, so
Marcus and Mel, and we had twoseparate replay operators in
Boulder, and maybe you can tellme their names.
Uh, Rico and Steve.
And they do real sports, they doreal sports, like the nuggets.
SPEAKER_03 (28:11):
They were like, Oh, yeah, so well, and we don't so
when we say replay operators,we've had a replay machine for
years, and they walked in andthey're like, Hey, I've used
this one a while, like like awhile ago, but I can't can you
kind of remind me?
And I was like, Well, here's theplay button and here's the like
record button, and you can likesetting in and setting out.
(28:33):
And they're like, All right, no,no, you're good.
Go ahead.
And and didn't ask me anotherquestion.
And like two hours later, afterour like dress rehearsal, I come
back and I was like, So, how areyou guys feeling?
Sorry, I kind of left.
They're like, No, so here's howwe're gonna do it.
And basically, these guys wereso good at what they do that
they taught me how they couldtake stuff off my plate because
(28:56):
I was overwhelmed with theamount of stuff I had to do, and
they're like, Don't do that,don't do it that way.
That's bad for you.
We're gonna do it for you.
Just take in our feed and wewill run it.
You just tell us when to hit go.
Yeah, impressive.
Impress so impressive.
They were so good at their jobsand so like thoughtful, like
(29:17):
they cared, they wanted it to beawesome.
They were constantly incommunication with the team on
the ground who was like thereplay director and knew exactly
what to do.
I didn't have to, I didn't haveto watch them at all.
I didn't have to tell themanything.
They told me when they hadsomething.
SPEAKER_04 (29:35):
Pros.
SPEAKER_03 (29:36):
Pros.
SPEAKER_04 (29:36):
Yeah, pros.
And we also had a pro from LiveView running Live U Studio.
Yep.
And our guy Tom and Polandrunning Live U Studio because we
had nine streams.
JP.
What sorry, this is the LiveView Studio Pro with Tom.
Yeah, JP.
And and and all these peoplesent us an email afterward and
were like, Thanks.
Yeah.
This was fun.
(29:58):
I didn't think it was fun.
I no.
It was fun.
So we were on a ranch in CentralCalifornia.
It's about 45 miles.
I'm going to say northwest ofNortheast.
Northwest of Monterey.
Oh, Monterey, yeah.
Well, nobody knows Hollister.
Gotcha.
Gotcha.
SPEAKER_01 (30:17):
So, and it was cool.
It was called the Bar Z Ranch.
And uh Tim and Michelle Borlinwere the owners, and they were
incredible.
Awesome.
SPEAKER_04 (30:27):
And what a cool ranch, 2,500 acres of like
rolling bigger than hills,smaller than mountains.
SPEAKER_01 (30:33):
Yeah, I think 1,500 feet at the tallest.
SPEAKER_04 (30:36):
And we had a great time, and we did a good event.
And more and most importantly,our customer was happy.
And their customer, who isTwitch, and their customer who's
Amazon, I believe.
Yeah.
We're all happy.
SPEAKER_01 (30:48):
So and I mean, what a great crew we had on the set.
SPEAKER_04 (30:53):
The biggest crew we've ever had, 18 people.
Yeah.
And everybody, everybody on theteam was amazing.
SPEAKER_01 (31:00):
Yeah, I mean, there was a guy who summited four
times, Everest, and carriedthat's the next week.
Oh, sorry.
SPEAKER_04 (31:07):
Next week we'll talk about him.
SPEAKER_03 (31:10):
That's not the next week.
That's two days later.
SPEAKER_04 (31:13):
Two days later.
So let's finish up Twitch.
So we got done with Twitch.
Everybody in Boulder did a greatjob.
Marcus was like thesub-director.
There was a director.
Frank, he was very clear on whathe wanted.
We worked for BoomboxProductions.
They were amazing, great people.
I hope we get to do more workwith them in the future.
Yeah, incredible.
And then one of the coolestthings about that event is it
(31:36):
was like the old days.
We got done at 2 p.m.
on Thursday and we went to thePinnacles National Park.
Amazing.
And we went splunking withiPhone flashlights.
Terrible idea.
Yeah.
But you gotta die somehow.
And we had to do a leg repair.
One of our uh staff members hada prosthetic plural.
(31:57):
Yeah.
And one of them popped off maybea little bit on the hike, but he
got it back on and we keptgoing.
And Nick was a cool guy, great,great drone pilot.
SPEAKER_01 (32:07):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (32:07):
Yeah.
Great member of our team.
Super proud to have him on.
And Ed got to find what did youfind in Pinnacles that you were
looking for?
SPEAKER_01 (32:16):
You know, I was trying, I'm a birder.
I said it.
I said it out loud.
I'm a birder.
And I hadn't gotten a Californiacondor.
So these guys are faking me outcoming in.
They'd slam on the brakes on thecar in front of us because they
were in the car in front andlike look out the window and
hang out and point and stuff.
And so they're messing me withme the whole time.
(32:37):
But ended up walking in once helost his leg, Nick.
Um, we were kind of hangingthere, and then it was like,
there's a condor up there.
And I shot it, and I'm and it'sit's on my page.
Come check it out.
SPEAKER_04 (32:51):
And you needed that for your bird collection, and so
you got it.
So Pinnacles National Park inCalifornia is the most
unassuming national park.
It has a sign that's the size ofa stop sign that says Pinnacles
National Park this way.
SPEAKER_03 (33:04):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (33:05):
And it was the real deal.
SPEAKER_03 (33:06):
And it's a real shame that the battery's cut out
again and we lost all thatbirding nonsense that Ed said.
But you know, uh Ed likes birds,so all the stuff about
California and all the stuffabout birdie.
All that, you know, it's it's uhit's unfortunate that we lost
that.
SPEAKER_04 (33:20):
You and Mel had to pack up after Twitch and pack up
like five duffels and head toMinneapolis.
Correct.
And then me and Ed had to get upat 3 a.m.
and drive to San Jose, and thenwe all converged on Minneapolis,
which is in Minnesota.
I didn't know that.
SPEAKER_03 (33:38):
And we wait, wait, wait, no, we're not going by
that.
Where did you think it was?
SPEAKER_04 (33:44):
I don't know.
I I gotta be honest, that partof the country's new to me.
You know when I realized where Iwas?
Where?
When?
And we'll go back to the event,is I got to Minnesota and it was
cold.
It was, and I've been inCalifornia, yeah, and Arkansas
and Kona.
(34:04):
So I had shorts and t-shirts.
So lo and behold, the hometownof Target is Minneapolis, and
there's a Minneapolis indowntown, a three-story one.
SPEAKER_03 (34:14):
Yeah, uh Target in downtown.
Target, yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (34:17):
What did I say?
Minneapolis.
There's a Minneapolis indowntown Minneapolis.
And so I I went to the Targetand I needed a sweatshirt and a
hat.
I lost my hat the night before.
Ryan Kelly took me out, andsomething happened.
Who knows?
And everything was Vikings,gophers, or Packers or twins.
(34:41):
Yeah.
And so I wasn't gonna wear anyof that.
So I got a sweatshirt that saidchampion on it and stuff.
But anyway, Minnesota, we wentthere for the Lifetime Games,
which is one of the coolest,most innovative events I've ever
seen.
And you go through a series of17 stations.
(35:03):
17 stations of lifting weights,running treadmills, doing the
cross-country ski, doing therow, all these box jump and all
this stuff.
And what I thought was so coolabout it is you had to lift
4,000 pounds.
And how you lifted 4,000 poundswas up to you.
Do you want to lift 100 pounds atime or do you want to lift 500
(35:24):
pounds a time?
And so, and overall it was aboutspeed, getting through the
course in the fastest amount oftime.
But at station one, you had torun a thousand meters.
At station two, you had to lift4,000 pounds.
So, how did you want to go aboutdoing that?
Obviously, running how fast youwant to run.
And then when you got to the, Ithink the first one was like,
(35:45):
and I don't want to get theterms wrong, but I would call it
a deadlift.
Yeah.
Where you just have to pick theweight up to your waist.
SPEAKER_01 (35:50):
And it was crazy to see some of the guys would just
stack it on, stack it on, somewould just go, you know, minimal
weight and just pump it outreally fast.
SPEAKER_04 (35:58):
And I'm not sure which one, but because it was a
new event, you saw people belike, oops.
Yeah, I mean, maybe I shouldn'thave done it like that.
Yeah, yeah.
But we broadcast it live.
Yeah.
For a lifetime who we domountain biking and gravel
racing for.
And they've really turned intoan awesome customer because they
took a chance on us to do thisnew event, a new concept, a new
(36:22):
broadcast.
And one of the coolest things wedid that our guy and Tom created
was when we're broadcasting, wehave a thing called a multicam.
It's where you can see all six,eight, ten, twelve, eighteen
cameras.
In this case, it was sixcameras, and you could choose
what camera you wanted to watch.
So you could it and I'm gonnajust admit it, it's the NFL red
(36:45):
zone for for LT games, yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (36:48):
For LT games, but it was a hit, it was.
Uh, I mean the other thing aboutit is so how many times at BCC
have you done a broadcastindoors?
And I don't mean a live stream,like a single cam live stream.
I mean, I mean how many timeshave you done a broadcast?
SPEAKER_04 (37:11):
Yeah, never same.
And not just indoors, but themost baller gym that's the size
of like 500 Walmarts.
It's crazy.
SPEAKER_01 (37:22):
You could live there.
I think I could live there.
SPEAKER_04 (37:27):
That is I I can't begin to it's like the size of
the tennis center in IndianWells, but it's a gym.
And we ate there.
I mean, you can eat there, youcould you can't.
SPEAKER_03 (37:37):
And then a bar, and believe it or not, I'm gonna be
I had a fresh-made Cubansandwich at the cafe in a gym.
SPEAKER_04 (37:43):
I'm gonna be totally honest with you.
We did not go to the bar.
Not at all.
Which is weird.
It is because I wanted to, butwe have professional standards
we try to keep most of the time.
Some of the time.
Yes, sometimes, especiallyindoors, sometimes.
Indoor sports, yes, but it wasfun, and I want to say how much
I appreciate our friends atLifetime.
(38:06):
Like they took a big chance onus, and their customers hate us,
but they like us, I think.
And they're good people, they'rejust good.
SPEAKER_01 (38:18):
You know, you you you meet some people and you see
people and get introduced, andyou're like, those are good
people.
SPEAKER_04 (38:23):
You can tell people that are fake, it's obvious.
Yes.
So big thanks to them.
So then Lifetime Games, youguys.
Oh, and we wanted to talk aboutour camera person, Scott.
Scott.
We go out to dinner and we'retalking about climbing.
I don't climb, I don't think anyof us climb, but my parents
climb and stuff like that.
(38:43):
And somebody brought up EverestBase Camp, and he's like, Yeah,
yeah, yeah, been there.
And we're like, Cool, cool, man.
He's like, Yeah, I actuallyclimbed Everest.
And we're like, What?
He's like, four times, yeah,yeah.
And then with camera games, andwe're like, Why?
He's like, Well, I was thecameraman, yeah.
So, like, all the cool camerafootage you've seen of some of
the better movies that have beenout.
He shot, he shot, and what agreat guy, and what a great
(39:04):
cameraman.
And like the best part of it wasafterwards, he's like, I want to
work for you guys.
SPEAKER_01 (39:09):
He only he only got in my shot one time, and that's
pretty unusual for a broadcast.
SPEAKER_04 (39:14):
I got in one of the lifetime content people's guys
shot the worst I've ever.
SPEAKER_07 (39:19):
Oh my gosh.
SPEAKER_04 (39:21):
Well, he was standing behind a doorway
shooting people coming throughthe doorway, and then I was
shooting the people going intothe doorway, and then I got in
front of one of them and likebacked up, and then like his
lens was what made me realizesomebody was behind me.
SPEAKER_01 (39:34):
What's crazy is I would walk up thinking I'm the
only one shooting someone, andScott's hanging upside down,
shooting, or under a bench.
SPEAKER_03 (39:43):
Dude, I would literally be like, oh man, good
shot, Ed.
Good shot.
Scott, Scott, he's on the sameguy, he's on the same guy, or
the or vice versa.
Like both of them, because bothof them kind of like would hide
behind the gear to get likecreative shots, but then you
couldn't see him except for oneangle.
And so I'd be like, that's thethat looks like the same.
Hey, hey, Ed, Ed, move.
SPEAKER_04 (40:07):
It was impressive, the athletes.
SPEAKER_01 (40:10):
Oh my gosh.
I mean beautiful people, justamazing and stories.
I mean, you talk to a few.
SPEAKER_04 (40:17):
Yeah, I got I shot some I shot some great like
post-race interviews or postevent interviews, and and they
did uh they had this lit wall,and I shot them in front of
that.
And we have a photo on oursocial if you want to see the
lit wall of us standing in frontof it.
And the guy that hired us shotthe picture, yeah, which was
pretty cool.
That he saw us lining up for apicture.
(40:37):
He's like, Let me shoot that.
So that was Lifetime Games.
I couldn't, I could everythingwe've talked about today can be
its own episode.
SPEAKER_01 (40:44):
I got a shout out, Mary from uh Hyper Ice was
there.
What a surprise!
SPEAKER_04 (40:48):
Yeah, and Will and Mary and Hyper Ice are one of
our sponsors.
SPEAKER_01 (40:53):
Yeah, they are they are literally a sponsor.
SPEAKER_04 (40:56):
Hyper Ice, Hyper Ice for Life.
Best recovery stuff ever.
Is it in you?
I don't think that's what theysay.
Oh, man, and it was cool to seeher, and she went out to dinner
with us.
Yeah, and we went to this placecalled I can't remember, but it
was a the giantest sports bar ofall time.
Tom's watch bar downtown.
SPEAKER_01 (41:17):
Shout out to them.
SPEAKER_04 (41:18):
Downtown Minneapolis, which is in
Minnesota.
SPEAKER_01 (41:21):
And they had a pokey bowl.
SPEAKER_04 (41:23):
And it was very good.
SPEAKER_01 (41:24):
It was very good.
Food, surprisingly.
SPEAKER_04 (41:26):
And then I left at 2 a.m., which I got to the airport
before the counter opened, whichdon't do that.
Flew back to San Jose, picked upthe van.
SPEAKER_01 (41:36):
What did you get before you uh got off the plane?
SPEAKER_04 (41:40):
And this is we should have a little promo about
this called Smart Cot.
SPEAKER_01 (41:43):
Smart cot.
Smart cot.
SPEAKER_04 (41:45):
And that's the cot that you take your bags in.
And when you travel with sevenor eight duffel bags, you need a
smart cot.
Smart cot.
So we got the smart cot.
I got the van, drove it to St.
George, got a night's sleep,drove it to Boulder, caught a
flight like eight hours later,to here, where we are, in Panama
(42:08):
Caddy Beach.
Panama Caddy Beach.
And it is caddy.
And this place, like no otherplace, has been such a complete
bust this year.
Until we interviewed.
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (42:23):
The interview with Chris Nikich, Nick Nikich, the
one better than better team.
Changed me forever.
SPEAKER_01 (42:30):
I want those track suits.
SPEAKER_04 (42:32):
They were these.
I mean, it's not hot pink, it'snot red.
It's like a blush or something.
I don't know.
It's a crazy hot red color.
SPEAKER_03 (42:41):
Yeah, like almost like neon.
I don't know how you have a neonin like a fabric, but it felt
like it radiated light.
SPEAKER_01 (42:52):
I have to say I had to adjust my phone because it
was like throwing off this bigmoray off the suits.
It was crazy.
SPEAKER_04 (43:00):
They of all the interviews I've done in my life.
And of all the interviews I'vedone in my life, I think I was
most taken back by the lack ofvisual disability in these
people that were are consideredintellectually disabled, or I
(43:23):
don't even know what you want tosay it, just normal freaking
people.
And they're doing an Iron Manthis weekend.
SPEAKER_03 (43:30):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (43:31):
It blew me away.
SPEAKER_03 (43:32):
Well, it it's so interesting because when we
think about people who areintellectually disabled, people
in the Special Olympics, sooften we expect uh people to
show what they are.
I well people expect to be ableto see your disability on you,
but trying to put that kind ofpressure on people that if I
(43:57):
can't tell that you have adisability, that means you don't
have one is it it waseye-opening tonight to see
people who don't necessarilyshow that disability on their
sleeves and understand they haveto go through life where people
don't know and and can't fullyunderstand without being told
(44:20):
the the struggles that theyface.
SPEAKER_01 (44:23):
Well, and they also don't believe it, you know, even
if they were told, and you you Imean, they were articulate, they
were telling their story and andamazingly articulate and the
things that they talk about whatthey had to endure is an Iron
Man, if not ten more, you know.
So it's it's pretty wild to havethat room that we had with them
(44:48):
and have that time with them andand watching them interact, you
know, it was amazing.
SPEAKER_04 (44:54):
And we got to meet Chris and Nick.
Chris is the first person tofinish an Iron Man, and I don't
I I I hate to say this, I don'tknow what the right term is
because I just look at Chris asa guy, but intellectually
disabled or ID, and it's theterms have changed over the
(45:16):
years and stuff like that.
But just this guy that fin wasthe first one to finish an Iron
Man, and it was back in 2020,and then he's done the Chicago
Marathon.
He was the keynote speaker atrunning USA.
And be honest, were you a littleworried that he was the keynote
speaker at running USA?
Like that's a hard job, and hecrushed it.
SPEAKER_03 (45:38):
Yeah, he crushed it.
Well, it's it's so much like Iwouldn't I wouldn't want to be
under the pressure of having tobe the keynote speaker.
I couldn't do it, and andwatching him come up there and
just be a natural hit him andNick got up together and and
nailed it.
SPEAKER_04 (45:54):
And we were lucky enough to get to do the A V for
that.
We do A V, by the way.
SPEAKER_03 (45:58):
Um, we do.
I you know what?
I almost forgot we also do theDenver metro area.
SPEAKER_04 (46:03):
Yeah.
But um, but that was back then,and it was like this thing that
they said it's gonna be amovement, and then tonight, was
it not amazing to see that itit's not gonna be a movement, it
is a movement, and they'rebringing 15 people to the table
and guides, and it turns out oneof our friends, Daniel Alamon,
(46:25):
Alamon, Alamon, Alamon, from whoLouis, yeah, but from uh
Cattanooga episode Catanooga,and if you haven't heard that,
go back an episode, and he'sguiding one of them, and he kind
of brought it all together, andwhat a cool thing, and what a
great opportunity to meet allthose people tonight.
SPEAKER_03 (46:46):
And I I think Daniel is so two of the people we
interviewed, Alamon, uh, is Noahand Esme.
And I he I think Daniel ishelping guide each of them in a
leg.
SPEAKER_01 (47:02):
Is that what do I understand that correctly?
I think that's what it is, but II mean I want to talk about
Esme.
I mean, she was giving us timesof her halves.
SPEAKER_04 (47:13):
509 at a 70.3.
It's crazy.
She beats me by 2.5 hours.
SPEAKER_01 (47:18):
Yeah.
I mean, that's nuts.
And and you know, she talked, itwas really cool some of the
things she was saying aboutwhere she comes from and and how
things are different here withher being able to go out and do
this.
I mean, it's it's pretty movingto hear that where you come
from.
SPEAKER_04 (47:34):
And we got to interview Chris's mom, and she
was not she was not excitedabout being interviewed because
I said she tried to.
Well, Chris's interview, he justreferred how important his mom
was, and so I was like, Mom,you're up.
And she's like, No, no, no, Idon't do that.
We're like, mom, you're up, andthen she did it and she spit hot
fire.
Absolutely.
And the most important thing shesaid, I was like, Why do you do
(47:56):
all this?
And she said, I'm a mom.
Yeah.
Which was cool.
It is cool.
SPEAKER_03 (48:00):
What a cool night in Panama Caddy Beach.
Well, something that Nick saidtonight, uh, Chris's dad, Nick,
because we interviewed hiscousin Nick as well.
Uh but uh whenever he wastalking about, I I believe this
is Special Olympics um uhdesignations was like uh ID two
(48:22):
and ID one.
And it's it's so interestingthat's not uh terms that I had
heard before.
And their their goal, not noteven their goal, what they're
gonna do this weekend is set abrand new world record at the
Iron Man for ID two for men andID one for men and women.
(48:44):
And he was like, the only reasonwe're not setting one for ID two
for women this weekend isbecause we haven't yet found the
uh person with ID two, the womanwith ID two who wants to do
this, but we are going to findher.
So if you're listening to thisand you have anyone in your life
who's like, Oh, I think I coulddo an I uh Iron Man, you're
inspired to do an Iron Man withsomeone who has ID2 or is in
(49:09):
that category, man, one percentbetter.
That crew, that's where you needto find yourself.
SPEAKER_04 (49:14):
Yeah, amazing people.
I I thought tonight ofeverything I've done in all my
years was one of the most coolnights.
And Eddie was floating aroundthe room shooting behind the
scenes content.
Yeah, it was really that made itfeel super important.
SPEAKER_01 (49:29):
Well, and watching all the interactions between
them.
I mean, it they're one bigfamily.
You know, that's that's what itis.
It's a family.
And uh, you know, seeing Esmerub his back when he was he got
a little verclimped, I think,when the mom was talking.
And so, you know, it's justeverybody is it seemed like it
was important to them to bethere tonight, too.
SPEAKER_04 (49:50):
I think so.
And I don't want to leave outJill Walker uh separate of
everything we just talked about.
We shot an interview with her,and she's doing her 100th Iron
Man this weekend at Iron ManFlorida, and that's kind of a
big deal, huge, and then twothings that jumped off the page
to me about Jill Walker is shesaid, I said, What's your most
(50:13):
memorable moment?
And it was the same moment forme, one of my most memorable
moments, and it was a a guynamed Leo Bourgeois who DNF'd
one year by like 15 seconds andcame back and finished at Iron
Man, Texas.
And the fact that she broughtthat up, I was like, How do you
know that?
(50:33):
Yeah, and then the other thing,her first triathlon was 2006,
Iron Man 70.3 Florida at Disney,and that was my first triathlon.
That's awesome.
SPEAKER_03 (50:42):
Well, and sorry, uh to clarify with Leo, she met
Leo, she saw found him on theFacebook group, and like kind of
was like, Oh, if you see me, I'mwearing the uh chocolate milk uh
jersey, uh say hey, and he sawher and was like, Oh, hey, Jill,
and she was like, Leo, and theydid two laps together, and then
(51:03):
she waited at the finish line tocheer him in uh when he actually
finished, when he when he madethe cutoff, I should say,
because he finished the othertime, but when he made the
cutoff, and then Jill'sbarometer for how successful her
race is is how many dogs shepets on course, which is kind of
whack.
SPEAKER_01 (51:22):
That's that's kind of your rule, too.
SPEAKER_04 (51:23):
Yeah, but I was like, that's pretty impressive.
I think she might have pet mydogs in Court d'Alene.
SPEAKER_03 (51:28):
Wow, so wow, and her PR, which is how many dogs she's
pet, is 200.
SPEAKER_04 (51:37):
But that was a four-loop course, so she's gonna
have a hard time beating that.
But I know a lot of peoplebrought their dogs for her to
pet this weekend.
What a special day here inPanama Kitty Beach.
SPEAKER_01 (51:47):
And it's just started, it's just started, so
it just started.
SPEAKER_04 (51:51):
Yeah, it's been a crazy few months.
Sorry for the super strung out,wacky podcast, but we had to
cover nine months of events.
Yeah, it's we've been we've beenbusy.
But the off season's coming, andwe're gonna ski like crazy.
Oh, yeah, and this podcast turnsinto how to ski it, follow how
to ski it.
Go follow how to ski it, please.
(52:12):
And don't worry that therehasn't been an episode for eight
months.
It's fine.
It's fine.
We're still in the mountains.
SPEAKER_03 (52:18):
Julian, any thoughts?
SPEAKER_00 (52:20):
Yeah, no, day after day we bust it out and we keep
going, and that's what we do.
And um, no, it's been wonderful,and we're happy to keep doing
it.
SPEAKER_03 (52:30):
Do you know why that keeps cutting out?
SPEAKER_04 (52:35):
I love that guy.
SPEAKER_03 (52:36):
It's a good guy.
You know, we'll keep him around.
SPEAKER_04 (52:39):
So, um, god damn it.
I already made the high the songand I already forgot what it was
called.
SPEAKER_03 (52:45):
Isn't it called uh I don't fuck around?
SPEAKER_04 (52:49):
It's it's do what you love, love what you do.
I had it that I had the AI makethat song when it was a lot
happier about my position andlife.
It's been a hard few weeks.
I made it on the flight to Kona.
SPEAKER_01 (53:08):
So you know what we ought to go do is is uh turn
this off and go swim out to thebuoy like we do at the end of
the day.
SPEAKER_04 (53:15):
Jump off the pier.
Yeah.
Alright, so scratch that song.
This is called Jump Off thePier.
Do it, you coward.
SPEAKER_05 (53:26):
Five hundred cats in the fanny.
Episode 30.
SPEAKER_02 (00:09):
Episode 30.
SPEAKER_04 (00:13):
On the tales of Catanooga.
SPEAKER_02 (00:15):
And we are now in Welcome to Panama Caddy Beach.
SPEAKER_04 (00:19):
Panama Caddy Beach.
And in all honesty, we've reallywanted to do nine episodes since
the last episode, but we've beenbusy on the road.
SPEAKER_03 (00:34):
As hell.
SPEAKER_04 (00:35):
And so after Cattanooga, Marcus, who's here,
and let me tell you who's herewith us.
We got Eddie.
Hello.
Julian.
Hello.
Margarita.
Marcus.
Hello.
And Eric.
Fidiglio.
SPEAKER_00 (00:52):
Fidiglio.
It's pronounced Fadiglio.
SPEAKER_04 (00:56):
Okay, we should restart this one.
Nah, we never do that.
That's for sure.
We never do that.
So we had Kona and that was arough 12 days or whatever.
It's a long time on the islandand it was hot.
SPEAKER_03 (01:16):
That's what I hear.
SPEAKER_04 (01:17):
It was an amazing studio experience for the
athletes.
They I think it's the greatestevent in the world, but it's
hard.
It's hard as a staff member.
It's hard.
And we're going to skip overKona for the most part.
But I do want to shout out theKing Cam.
Nick and Aiden from the King Cammade our week amazing.
(01:41):
Those are two of the best humanbeings on the planet.
They like really care about whatwe're there to do.
And everything they did meantthe world I could talk, I could
do a whole episode about thestaff at the King Cam.
SPEAKER_03 (01:53):
Aiden was calling before anyone got on the ground
from our team, saying, hey, Ijust did a speed test here.
I just set up the AP, I just setup like making sure everything
was how we wanted when we got onthe ground.
SPEAKER_04 (02:07):
And I would say they're like IT guys, and
they're great IT guys, but theydo so much more than that.
It would be it wouldmisrepresent to just call them
IT guys that like they areinvolved in audio and video and
rooming and everything.
And I've bragged about Marriottand my relationship with
(02:29):
Marriott, but I want to give ashout out to Nick and Aiden on
because of Marriott.
Like they because Marriott'sbeen important to us as a
company because they've takengood care of it.
These are the two best guysnationwide at Marriott, are Nick
and Aiden.
Ohana.
The Ohana.
The Ohana.
(02:49):
They're the Ohana.
A couple things to touch on inKona.
We stopped using RF for thebroadcast.
We swapped that out for Wi-Fi.
It worked.
Everything was good.
The broadcast looked great, butit was a ton of work.
Yeah.
I know why they rent helicoptersand fly above the event and do
(03:09):
RF now.
Because installing RF everywherethat the chopper used to go is
hard.
SPEAKER_03 (03:15):
Yeah.
Because you just have to paymoney for a chopper and RF, but
you have to do a lot.
You and BCC has to do a lot ofwork to do Wi-Fi only.
SPEAKER_04 (03:25):
Me and John Michelle and Ryan High and Dylan taped
down, not even to exaggerate,like 3,000 feet of cable.
And it was all cable we plannedto run Arial.
And then we found out once wegot on site, Ariel wasn't an
option any longer.
Because they'd always doneAriel, and we had to tape it
(03:46):
down.
And we we got good.
Well, I've always been good attaping cords down, but as a
team, we got good at tapingcords down.
Julian laughs.
I'm not bragging, I'm just beinghonest.
SPEAKER_05 (03:57):
It's a great skill.
SPEAKER_04 (03:59):
It's a great skill.
And we taped them down and wedid gorilla tape, we did duct
tape as like a protective layer.
And the funniest thing is assoon as we got like 3,000 feet
of tape down, somebody like wedon't mind if you drive your
forklift on our tape job, butlike don't turn the wheels and
drag pallets across it.
(04:19):
And immediately somebody draggeda pallet across it, but it
lived.
SPEAKER_01 (04:24):
And it all worked.
So let me ask you a question.
We're talking about tape.
Do you like gorilla tape or ducttape?
SPEAKER_04 (04:32):
They're two different products.
So there's three kinds of tape,in my opinion.
There's gaff tape, which is notmeant to be outside.
Because once it's once it getswet, it's ruined.
It's done.
And then there's duct tape,which is great, but it's not
super durable and it's not supersticky.
And then there's gorilla tapethat's gonna pull up the
(04:52):
laminate of the basketball courtyou taped it down on.
So you gotta be really carefulwe use that.
But if you're in a parking lot,it doesn't really matter if it
pulls up the laminate.
SPEAKER_01 (05:02):
No, no.
SPEAKER_04 (05:03):
For the most part.
No.
SPEAKER_01 (05:05):
You got a pre-sweep.
Got a pre-sweep.
SPEAKER_04 (05:07):
So and if I said we weren't gonna talk about Kona,
but I guess we are.
So getting a broom, first ofall, you have to go buy one.
And then they don't sell broomson the island.
Did you have to go to snakes?
So we we got one from HomeDepot, and a whole nother
episode should be like howawesome Instacart is.
(05:30):
Dave discovered Instacart atHawaii.
Actually, a guy that worked withus, Matt, was like, you should
just have Instacart bring it.
And I'm like, I don't have timefor that.
I'm 56 years old.
And it was there like 10 minuteslater.
But brooms are old school.
A leaf blower is how you blowsand off a parking lot.
(05:51):
And so we leaf blowed the spotwe needed to tape down, and then
the tape sticks.
If you don't sweep or leaf blowgorilla tape, it doesn't matter,
it don't stick.
So anyway, we taped a ton ofstuff down.
And one other small note, we uselike we as a company own like a
hundred Honda generators thatthey don't sell on the island.
(06:13):
So we bought some Generacgenerators, and I get everybody
right now is like, how'd thatgo?
It worked out okay.
SPEAKER_03 (06:22):
You know, uh Generac is just a misspelling of the
word generic.
SPEAKER_04 (06:26):
Maybe we learned a valuable lesson that the generac
generators are safe, so theyhave a carbon monoxide alarm,
and so if you have anothergenerator blowing on your
generac, it shuts it off.
But we figured it out reallyquick because it it has like an
LED readout that says carbonmonoxide warning.
(06:48):
It says it expensive.
That's what it says.
Expensive.
They were about a third of theprice of Honda generators.
SPEAKER_01 (06:54):
Well, generac, if you're looking to sponsor
anybody, we are open forsponsorship.
SPEAKER_04 (06:58):
They were all yeah, absolutely.
All in all, it worked out.
So, anyway, Kona was Kona.
The greatest event in the worldfor the athletes, one of the
harder events in the world forthe staff.
It's hot, it's long hours.
Um, well run.
Like Diana, and we talked abouther last year on our podcast.
(07:19):
She runs the whole thing.
I like working for Diana.
She's like, here's what I want,and you go do it, and you're
you're a hero, and it's reallysimple and stuff.
But that's where the lastforever weeks got difficult.
And meanwhile, while we're inKona, Ryan and Eddie and Scott,
(07:43):
and who else was with you guyswere at the Little Sugar
Mountain bike race.
And it's a single-track mountainbike race, it's literally
impossible to cover.
There's no choppers, dronesdon't do much because they're
down in the trees.
So we hired embedded riders.
(08:03):
So these are like pro mountainbikers.
They rode electric mountainbikes that we supplied, and they
rode in the field.
SPEAKER_01 (08:11):
It's crazy.
SPEAKER_04 (08:11):
We had to uh that morning set them up, and some of
the athletes were willing towear cameras for us, which is
amazing because everybody saideverybody said there's no
athlete out there that will weara camera for you.
And we said, Why don't you justlet us ask?
Eddie can talk.
SPEAKER_01 (08:30):
Yeah, yeah.
We we had a couple actually wearit on their shirt, right?
Center chest.
So you know, it was kind of coolthat they were very, very open
to it when they turned them inthat night.
They were like, Man, this wasawesome.
I'll do it again.
SPEAKER_04 (08:44):
And the footage was amazing.
SPEAKER_01 (08:45):
Yeah, I mean, it makes all the difference.
SPEAKER_04 (08:47):
So we had embedded riders, we had pros.
I think the winner had one oncamera, had our camera showing
them across the finish line.
Coolest thing ever.
And what was the best was theaudience absolutely hated it,
crushed us.
(09:08):
Crushed.
I feel like every episode werelike, How much more can the
audience hate us?
And this set a new record.
So go check it out.
It's on YouTube.
It's called the 2025 LittleSugar Race Highlights?
Race Highlights by Lifetime.
I love Lifetime, by the way.
(09:28):
We'll talk more about that.
SPEAKER_01 (09:30):
And what they're audio stand is is the plate we
had to drive around the two daysbefore we rode bikes to find
spots that we could actually seewhat was going on.
Otherwise, you see a half asecond.
SPEAKER_04 (09:45):
And the common message was why can't you cut
down all the trees and justshoot the whole race from a
chopper?
SPEAKER_01 (09:50):
There you go.
SPEAKER_04 (09:52):
But that's not an option.
SPEAKER_03 (09:55):
You know, I uh I'm actually impressed with how
dedicated some of the hatershaters are.
They put real effortspecifically.
They don't know who we are, butthey hate us like they raised
us.
I used to think my parents loveme.
(10:15):
I just want to put that outthere.
SPEAKER_04 (10:17):
My parents love me too.
I used to think and I used tothink this about Iron Man too.
They don't hate us.
They hate them.
But one of the things I'velearned in October of 2025 is
they hate us.
Yeah.
They hate us very much.
SPEAKER_03 (10:35):
They don't know who we are, but they hate us.
SPEAKER_04 (10:38):
We sing shock rock.
SPEAKER_01 (10:41):
You know, I I I really think that they don't
hate us.
I think they're justdisappointed that they can't
race and they can only watch itfrom their mom's basement.
So I mean, if you couldn't raceand you you were watching it
from your mom's basement, itwould be you might be upset at
the coverage.
SPEAKER_04 (11:02):
And this isn't a plug for Gary Vanderchuk, but I
do wish he would come on ourpodcast because I think he would
be a good fit for us.
GaryV.com.
SPEAKER_03 (11:13):
You can follow the link from 500cats.com.
SPEAKER_04 (11:15):
He said the same thing that Justin Metzler said
that nobody trashing you guys isdoing better.
And and thank you, Gary, for setpointing that out.
SPEAKER_03 (11:24):
Yeah.
But we appreciate the shout out.
SPEAKER_04 (11:27):
But he's right.
That people because we're goingto talk about the next nine
videos we made on this podcast.
And how much people hated him.
And how much people hated him.
And I think one thing that'simportant is the only kind of
people that matter today, maybenot tomorrow, are our customers.
(11:48):
Yeah.
And they're happy with what wedid.
So anyway, Little Sugar,Bentonville, Arkansas, amazing.
Uh, we worked with amazingpeople, and the lifetime people
are great, and they bring agreat vibe to the event.
Yep.
And they are bringing cyclingback to the United States.
SPEAKER_03 (12:04):
Yeah, 100%.
SPEAKER_04 (12:06):
Which is cool.
SPEAKER_03 (12:07):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (12:08):
So then go ahead, Ed.
Well, no, the I was just gonnasay the the expo they have is
such an inviting place to gointo, and everybody talks to
everybody, and everybody hangsout there, and that's what's
cool.
SPEAKER_04 (12:21):
Did you did you meet Nat Ross?
SPEAKER_01 (12:23):
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (12:24):
Man, what a cool guy.
We'll talk about him with thebig sugar classic.
So moving forward, because wehave 19 more events to cover.
Exactly one week later.
Yeah, we're still in I'm stillin Kona.
SPEAKER_03 (12:36):
You're still in Kona.
And then you fly in the uhflight from hell.
I was Kona.
SPEAKER_04 (12:42):
I was on a flight that made the news.
SPEAKER_03 (12:43):
Yes.
Because it took so long.
SPEAKER_04 (12:46):
Because we were stuck on the plane for some
crazy like 20 hours.
Yeah.
I mean, and this is on theairplane.
Like, this isn't like in the airor anything.
Yeah.
And so we backed away.
And so I was sitting next toanother videographer, and some
of you guys know who this is,Kenny Withrow.
And he's a good guy, and I likehim, and we're kind of friends,
but we're sitting across theaisle, and I fell asleep the
(13:08):
minute the plane backed up.
And apparently we went andwaited out on the tarmac for an
hour.
And then we pulled back to thegate and they kind of lurched
when they got back to the gate.
And I woke up and brushedslobber off my face.
And I looked over at him withlike a big smile, and he's like,
We haven't left.
And I looked at my watch and itwas like a I don't know, we were
(13:30):
supposed to leave at let's justsay seven.
And I looked at my watch, it waslike 8:30.
So it wasn't the end of theworld, but they had to fix the
airplane, and then they got itfixed, and we taxied back out,
and there was a medicalemergency.
So then we went back and got themedical emergency off the plane,
and then we taxied back out, andthere was another mechanical.
(13:52):
So then we came back to the gateand they were like, This flight
is canceled, but you can't getoff the plane because there's no
ground support.
Which was kind of weird becauseand one guy was like, peace, he
pushed his way out, no way, andit was gone.
And I think he might have beenfrom Pitkin County, if you know
where that is, but he might havebeen working with us.
(14:16):
And then we so I booked a newflight.
I was like, I'm not going down.
So everybody who was on theflight couldn't change their
flight because the flight hadn'tbeen canceled yet.
So I booked new flights, like Iknew what I was doing.
Yeah.
And so I'm like, we're gonnaleave the next night.
And somebody from Iron Man, whoI think very highly of, mouthed
(14:39):
to me, we got you rooms tonight.
And man, that meant the world tome that here's a big corporation
looking out for me.
Like, we got you rooms tonight,don't panic.
And I was like, I got flightsout tomorrow.
And then they're like, hey,everybody buckle your seatbelt.
We're gonna back out, but we'regoing to San Fran, not not
Denver.
(15:00):
So then I canceled my flights.
We flew to San Fran, but becausethey didn't expect us, we
weren't allowed to get off theplane.
So we were at San Fran for likea half a day.
So my 6 a.m.
flight, my flight that wassupposed to land in Denver at 6
a.m., 10 a.m.
flight to Arkansas, got in atlike 3 p.m., and we got on a
(15:21):
like an 8 p.m.
flight to Arkansas.
It was rough.
But then we were in Bentonville,Arkansas for the Big Sugar
Classic.
And now we're back in Arkansas,baby.
Back in Arkansas.
Big sugar.
And the rest of the team, Julianhere and Eddie here, who are
with us, are in Sacramento.
Sacramento.
(15:41):
No, wait.
No, no.
SPEAKER_03 (15:43):
We haven't gotten to Sacramento yet.
We haven't?
No, not at all.
We haven't even hit Big Sugarand the rainstorm that broke
that weekend.
SPEAKER_04 (15:51):
Yeah, but that was the weekend to Sacramento.
SPEAKER_03 (15:53):
No, no, Sacramento was the next weekend.
unknown (15:56):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (15:57):
Right?
No.
Is it the same weekend?
I thought Ed was Ed not in.
I was in Little and had to go toCalifornia.
I'm sorry.
No, no, you were right then.
I was wrong.
SPEAKER_04 (16:06):
Alright, so I'm gonna let you guys tell us a
little bit about Sacramento.
Like Iron Man California is whatit's called.
SPEAKER_01 (16:16):
It it is.
But uh, and they have thesegiant letters that they roll out
Sacramento.
But uh that race is alwaysinteresting.
It's a it's a very uh kind ofdifferent and wild race that
stuff just comes up out of theblue, we're gonna hang something
on this tree.
And or we never put the the uhjumbotron there.
(16:39):
So it's the same thing.
You always run up, you know, alot of people kind of in charge
and a lot of people in charge.
And I think that's what it does.
Sorry.
Anyway, um, yeah, no, I lovethat race.
How about you, Julian?
SPEAKER_00 (16:55):
No, Sacramento went great, honestly.
Uh always it's always awonderful time.
It just kind of feels like arip-off not really being on the
beach.
You fly out to California andit's all the California prices
and stuff, but you're you'rereally I don't know, a couple
hours for from the coast, soit's kind of feels like a I
don't know, backhandedCalifornia, but everything went
wonderfully.
SPEAKER_01 (17:15):
Yeah, I mean I think where it's located, the the run
path and and stuff like that isreally nice.
Uh the bike, you get into theorchards and get out, and um you
see a lot of uh lot of land, butit gets real windy out there as
I was on the motorcycle.
Um but yeah, all in all, I thinkpeople like the race because
(17:36):
it's a downhill swim and youknow, pretty much rollers and
then flat.
So I mean, I think it's a goodrace.
Um it's getting more and morepeople.
Um I'm not sure I'm a fan ofSacramento.
You know, I like California, butsome of those areas are kind of
for me, because I'm a small townguy.
(17:58):
So it's kind of the big citystuff.
Uh I'm not I'm not all about.
I know uh Marcus likes Ottawa.
SPEAKER_03 (18:06):
Big fan of Ottawa.
It's like the uh Raleigh ofCanada.
SPEAKER_00 (18:12):
Had a great time in Sacramento.
I didn't see the race video.
I don't know if you saw it, uhDave.
SPEAKER_01 (18:17):
I know I we enjoyed making it.
SPEAKER_00 (18:19):
I mean, there were a lot of great stories and uh um
didn't see the video, but I wehad a blast getting all the
coverage.
And um well, I think the crowdliked it.
SPEAKER_04 (18:34):
The crowd liked the the video.
Who is in the video?
There's gotta be somebodymemorable from the video.
Did you guys go?
SPEAKER_03 (18:43):
You guys were in California, right?
Am I who made the video?
SPEAKER_00 (18:50):
I we were there, I received a link to the video.
Um was told to not download it.
Not sure why, but as it goes, umwe did switch up the music a
(19:11):
little bit, and I think we gotsome good coverage.
Thanks, Julian.
SPEAKER_04 (19:16):
I appreciate it.
Julian Higarita, everyone.
I promise we did a great job inCalifornia.
I personally talked to the racetractor and they said thank you.
Do you believe that?
SPEAKER_03 (19:30):
I a hundred percent believe that.
Because Jenny is amazing andwould never say anything other
than positive things.
SPEAKER_04 (19:38):
I don't know who Jenny is.
I was thinking of Tom Cotton.
Okay, so I promise we did a goodjob in Sacramento.
We'll probably edit this partout.
So Sacramento went great.
Good job, guys.
Well done.
SPEAKER_03 (19:52):
Build it.
Um I wish the uh recordinghadn't cut out just then because
the stuff they talked about andthe story is incredible.
You know what?
I'm glad we got some newbatteries now that we're back in
Bentonville.
SPEAKER_04 (20:03):
So back to the same weekend as Iron Man California,
which by the way went great.
Went great.
We had the big sugar classic bigsugar and man, that town got
taken over by bikes.
SPEAKER_01 (20:19):
Yeah, it's always taken over by bikes.
That town is bikes.
I mean, we we rode the trails onit, you rode them as well.
I mean, it is amazing.
SPEAKER_04 (20:28):
When you heard like Bentonville, Arkansas, the
mountain bike capital of theworld.
Did you laugh out loud?
Oh my gosh.
SPEAKER_01 (20:35):
I was like, uh we talking about the same.
SPEAKER_04 (20:38):
And where's the mountain bike capital of the
world?
Bentonville.
Without a doubt.
100% so many people ride bikes,but we were there for a gravel
race.
And maybe a day before thegravel race, the weather
forecast looked awful.
They were talking about damagingstorms.
Yeah.
Everything from shortening therace to canceling the race was
(20:58):
on the table.
But the days leading up to therace were beautiful.
Blue sky, you know, perfectweather.
So we went about our way.
We shot 27 sound bites with thepros.
We usually shoot about five orten.
Oh, yeah.
But we are worried about uh lackof coverage on the top half of
the course, no cell service, noview of the sky, Starlink's not
(21:22):
an option.
And we did have a helicopter,and it was gonna be our
transmitting.
SPEAKER_03 (21:30):
And what I think is the funniest part of this story
is we just talked about Kona.
First time ever without RF.
It was a pain because we had todo Wi-Fi all over the place, but
we did it without RF.
It was amazing.
And what did we do in Big Sugar?
SPEAKER_04 (21:44):
Yeah, we had to hire somebody to do RF.
So the technology that we werelike is dated.
This is old school.
We're the new guys.
We're young, we're 56.
And we had to hire basically thepeople that used to do Kona to
come in and do RF for us.
And what that means is that themotos would transmit to the
(22:07):
helicopter, and the helicopterwould transmit to space or
wherever it goes.
I don't know where it goes.
Live view.
Yeah.
And so um, we had it all set up.
It took dozens of extra hours oftesting.
We felt really good before thenight before the race, knowing
that weather might be an issue.
And the next morning, weather,sure enough, was an issue.
(22:30):
Lifetime made the right call byshortening the race from 100
miles to 50 miles.
And when I mean shorten therace, they didn't shorten the
course, they put the athletes ona whole different course because
there was a 50-mile race thatday, anyway.
Yeah.
So instead of giving people theoption to ride the 100-mile
course, they forced everybody toride the 50-mile course.
(22:51):
And when I mean forced, uh therewas the right call.
It was it got dangerous later inthe day, but they had most of
the people off the course whenthat happened.
But we had to go shoot a livevideo on a course that we had
not tested on or driven or seenor knew about.
SPEAKER_03 (23:12):
And about halfway through, we lost our helicopter,
which means we lost our RF andour overhead shot.
SPEAKER_04 (23:21):
Because of lightning, because of lightning,
and so the helicopter had toland.
All in all, I think it workedout well.
The audience hated it.
Yeah, they asked me to killmyself a couple times.
It's the same people in theaudience.
Yeah, hated it.
I was super proud of what wedid.
(23:41):
Same.
I I had the best job of the daythat I went out in a
specifically branded Jeep, aJeep that's branded for a
company card called Orange Seal.
One of the Orange Seal peoplewas the driver.
He was an amazing like rally cardriver.
Like we we were sideways many atime.
Not near the athletes.
Yeah, right.
(24:01):
But where we're trying to catchup to the lead pack.
And then we had a fieldcommentator in our vehicle.
His name was Nat Ross.
We talked about him, like amountain bike hall of famer, but
just a cool guy, positive vibe.
And the very first hit we did,he's like, Here comes the pack,
and a guy skids out of controlby us and fixes his tire right
(24:23):
in front of us.
It was awesome.
It was awesome.
And I've always said, if you goout, and I told everybody in our
team, if you go out with thispositive attitude, it'll come to
you.
And it came to us immediately,and they got what I was saying.
And it was so cool because Ryantold me that they were watching
and they were like, you know,what the hell?
Why isn't he using his monopod?
(24:44):
It's kind of shaky.
And then all of a sudden, I waslike two inches away from the
guy, like pushing the thing intohis tube to plug it and stuff.
It was awesome.
It was cool.
What a great race.
The skies unleashed.
Everything got wet, everythinggot ruined.
Yep.
But all in all, we did what weset out to do.
We broadcast that whole race.
(25:05):
We broadcast the whole race.
There were some potatoes, but alot of potato cam.
And um, I thought the best partof the race is after the winner
finished and I was shooting hisinterview, and I had this brand
new camera.
I'm not even gonna say it's oneof the best cameras money can
buy.
And he goes, Nat says, Tell usabout your race.
(25:28):
He goes, Well, I'll tell youwhat, Nat, what a great day.
And my camera overheated andshut off.
Yep.
In the rain.
Yep, in the rain.
So it wasn't a Sony A12.
I don't care what you've heard,it was not the Sony A12.
So um, and we'll talk more aboutthe Sony A12, what a great
(25:51):
camera it is because and it'soverheating issues that it
doesn't have.
It doesn't have the overheatingissues.
So that's what we know for sure.
But we had a great race.
And we did get out of thereseveral hours early.
Me and Ryan Kelly and the teampacked the van.
Um, I think when the team saideverything's dried off, they
meant we put everything awaywet.
(26:12):
Yeah.
So we jumped.
We jumped in the van and wedrove from Bentonville, Arkansas
to San Jose, California.
It's a 26-hour drive, and we didit in like 30 hours.
I know that's not set inrecords.
Like I know people drive acrossthe country in Lambos faster
than that.
But Rad Forest.
It was big for us.
So we made it to Hollister,California, and then we met up
(26:38):
with a bunch of the San uhSacramento.
There you go.
We met up with a bunch of theSacramento team.
People came who had a greatrace, as we talked about at
length earlier.
SPEAKER_01 (26:51):
And the video had a lot of great athletes in it.
Yes, it did.
And uh, I hate that thatrecording messed up the
batteries.
SPEAKER_04 (26:59):
We we met the Sacramento team and we did an
event um that was called theTwitch Expedition, and it was I
I I kind of like to feel like itwas an adventure race, but it
definitely wasn't an adventurerace.
SPEAKER_01 (27:15):
It was a cross between a lot of those reality
races, a reality very realityshow, kind of and this was a
bigger production than we usedto.
SPEAKER_04 (27:24):
And what I mean by bigger is they had catering.
Three meals a day.
SPEAKER_01 (27:29):
It was crazy.
Yeah, gained four pounds.
SPEAKER_04 (27:31):
Walking through the mountains for five days.
SPEAKER_01 (27:34):
And you go in there, and if you're gluten-free, they
make a special bag for you andthey put your name on it.
Or if you only want to eat, youknow, guinea pig, they fly it
in.
I don't know how they do it, butit was impressive.
SPEAKER_04 (27:46):
The chef was amazing.
SPEAKER_01 (27:48):
Amazing.
I mean, I I told him every day.
He was like, Oh, yeah, this iswhat I do.
SPEAKER_04 (27:53):
And I'm like, and so we had a big team in Boulder, so
Marcus and Mel, and we had twoseparate replay operators in
Boulder, and maybe you can tellme their names.
Uh, Rico and Steve.
And they do real sports, they doreal sports, like the nuggets.
SPEAKER_03 (28:11):
They were like, Oh, yeah, so well, and we don't so
when we say replay operators,we've had a replay machine for
years, and they walked in andthey're like, Hey, I've used
this one a while, like like awhile ago, but I can't can you
kind of remind me?
And I was like, Well, here's theplay button and here's the like
record button, and you can likesetting in and setting out.
(28:33):
And they're like, All right, no,no, you're good.
Go ahead.
And and didn't ask me anotherquestion.
And like two hours later, afterour like dress rehearsal, I come
back and I was like, So, how areyou guys feeling?
Sorry, I kind of left.
They're like, No, so here's howwe're gonna do it.
And basically, these guys wereso good at what they do that
they taught me how they couldtake stuff off my plate because
(28:56):
I was overwhelmed with theamount of stuff I had to do, and
they're like, Don't do that,don't do it that way.
That's bad for you.
We're gonna do it for you.
Just take in our feed and wewill run it.
You just tell us when to hit go.
Yeah, impressive.
Impress so impressive.
They were so good at their jobsand so like thoughtful, like
(29:17):
they cared, they wanted it to beawesome.
They were constantly incommunication with the team on
the ground who was like thereplay director and knew exactly
what to do.
I didn't have to, I didn't haveto watch them at all.
I didn't have to tell themanything.
They told me when they hadsomething.
SPEAKER_04 (29:35):
Pros.
SPEAKER_03 (29:36):
Pros.
SPEAKER_04 (29:36):
Yeah, pros.
And we also had a pro from LiveView running Live U Studio.
Yep.
And our guy Tom and Polandrunning Live U Studio because we
had nine streams.
JP.
What sorry, this is the LiveView Studio Pro with Tom.
Yeah, JP.
And and and all these peoplesent us an email afterward and
were like, Thanks.
Yeah.
This was fun.
(29:58):
I didn't think it was fun.
I no.
It was fun.
So we were on a ranch in CentralCalifornia.
It's about 45 miles.
I'm going to say northwest ofNortheast.
Northwest of Monterey.
Oh, Monterey, yeah.
Well, nobody knows Hollister.
Gotcha.
Gotcha.
SPEAKER_01 (30:17):
So, and it was cool.
It was called the Bar Z Ranch.
And uh Tim and Michelle Borlinwere the owners, and they were
incredible.
Awesome.
SPEAKER_04 (30:27):
And what a cool ranch, 2,500 acres of like
rolling bigger than hills,smaller than mountains.
SPEAKER_01 (30:33):
Yeah, I think 1,500 feet at the tallest.
SPEAKER_04 (30:36):
And we had a great time, and we did a good event.
And more and most importantly,our customer was happy.
And their customer, who isTwitch, and their customer who's
Amazon, I believe.
Yeah.
We're all happy.
SPEAKER_01 (30:48):
So and I mean, what a great crew we had on the set.
SPEAKER_04 (30:53):
The biggest crew we've ever had, 18 people.
Yeah.
And everybody, everybody on theteam was amazing.
SPEAKER_01 (31:00):
Yeah, I mean, there was a guy who summited four
times, Everest, and carriedthat's the next week.
Oh, sorry.
SPEAKER_04 (31:07):
Next week we'll talk about him.
SPEAKER_03 (31:10):
That's not the next week.
That's two days later.
SPEAKER_04 (31:13):
Two days later.
So let's finish up Twitch.
So we got done with Twitch.
Everybody in Boulder did a greatjob.
Marcus was like thesub-director.
There was a director.
Frank, he was very clear on whathe wanted.
We worked for BoomboxProductions.
They were amazing, great people.
I hope we get to do more workwith them in the future.
Yeah, incredible.
And then one of the coolestthings about that event is it
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was like the old days.
We got done at 2 p.m.
on Thursday and we went to thePinnacles National Park.
Amazing.
And we went splunking withiPhone flashlights.
Terrible idea.
Yeah.
But you gotta die somehow.
And we had to do a leg repair.
One of our uh staff members hada prosthetic plural.
(31:57):
Yeah.
And one of them popped off maybea little bit on the hike, but he
got it back on and we keptgoing.
And Nick was a cool guy, great,great drone pilot.
SPEAKER_01 (32:07):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (32:07):
Yeah.
Great member of our team.
Super proud to have him on.
And Ed got to find what did youfind in Pinnacles that you were
looking for?
SPEAKER_01 (32:16):
You know, I was trying, I'm a birder.
I said it.
I said it out loud.
I'm a birder.
And I hadn't gotten a Californiacondor.
So these guys are faking me outcoming in.
They'd slam on the brakes on thecar in front of us because they
were in the car in front andlike look out the window and
hang out and point and stuff.
And so they're messing me withme the whole time.
(32:37):
But ended up walking in once helost his leg, Nick.
Um, we were kind of hangingthere, and then it was like,
there's a condor up there.
And I shot it, and I'm and it'sit's on my page.
Come check it out.
SPEAKER_04 (32:51):
And you needed that for your bird collection, and so
you got it.
So Pinnacles National Park inCalifornia is the most
unassuming national park.
It has a sign that's the size ofa stop sign that says Pinnacles
National Park this way.
SPEAKER_03 (33:04):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (33:05):
And it was the real deal.
SPEAKER_03 (33:06):
And it's a real shame that the battery's cut out
again and we lost all thatbirding nonsense that Ed said.
But you know, uh Ed likes birds,so all the stuff about
California and all the stuffabout birdie.
All that, you know, it's it's uhit's unfortunate that we lost
that.
SPEAKER_04 (33:20):
You and Mel had to pack up after Twitch and pack up
like five duffels and head toMinneapolis.
Correct.
And then me and Ed had to get upat 3 a.m.
and drive to San Jose, and thenwe all converged on Minneapolis,
which is in Minnesota.
I didn't know that.
SPEAKER_03 (33:38):
And we wait, wait, wait, no, we're not going by
that.
Where did you think it was?
SPEAKER_04 (33:44):
I don't know.
I I gotta be honest, that partof the country's new to me.
You know when I realized where Iwas?
Where?
When?
And we'll go back to the event,is I got to Minnesota and it was
cold.
It was, and I've been inCalifornia, yeah, and Arkansas
and Kona.
(34:04):
So I had shorts and t-shirts.
So lo and behold, the hometownof Target is Minneapolis, and
there's a Minneapolis indowntown, a three-story one.
SPEAKER_03 (34:14):
Yeah, uh Target in downtown.
Target, yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (34:17):
What did I say?
Minneapolis.
There's a Minneapolis indowntown Minneapolis.
And so I I went to the Targetand I needed a sweatshirt and a
hat.
I lost my hat the night before.
Ryan Kelly took me out, andsomething happened.
Who knows?
And everything was Vikings,gophers, or Packers or twins.
(34:41):
Yeah.
And so I wasn't gonna wear anyof that.
So I got a sweatshirt that saidchampion on it and stuff.
But anyway, Minnesota, we wentthere for the Lifetime Games,
which is one of the coolest,most innovative events I've ever
seen.
And you go through a series of17 stations.
(35:03):
17 stations of lifting weights,running treadmills, doing the
cross-country ski, doing therow, all these box jump and all
this stuff.
And what I thought was so coolabout it is you had to lift
4,000 pounds.
And how you lifted 4,000 poundswas up to you.
Do you want to lift 100 pounds atime or do you want to lift 500
(35:24):
pounds a time?
And so, and overall it was aboutspeed, getting through the
course in the fastest amount oftime.
But at station one, you had torun a thousand meters.
At station two, you had to lift4,000 pounds.
So, how did you want to go aboutdoing that?
Obviously, running how fast youwant to run.
And then when you got to the, Ithink the first one was like,
(35:45):
and I don't want to get theterms wrong, but I would call it
a deadlift.
Yeah.
Where you just have to pick theweight up to your waist.
SPEAKER_01 (35:50):
And it was crazy to see some of the guys would just
stack it on, stack it on, somewould just go, you know, minimal
weight and just pump it outreally fast.
SPEAKER_04 (35:58):
And I'm not sure which one, but because it was a
new event, you saw people belike, oops.
Yeah, I mean, maybe I shouldn'thave done it like that.
Yeah, yeah.
But we broadcast it live.
Yeah.
For a lifetime who we domountain biking and gravel
racing for.
And they've really turned intoan awesome customer because they
took a chance on us to do thisnew event, a new concept, a new
(36:22):
broadcast.
And one of the coolest things wedid that our guy and Tom created
was when we're broadcasting, wehave a thing called a multicam.
It's where you can see all six,eight, ten, twelve, eighteen
cameras.
In this case, it was sixcameras, and you could choose
what camera you wanted to watch.
So you could it and I'm gonnajust admit it, it's the NFL red
(36:45):
zone for for LT games, yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (36:48):
For LT games, but it was a hit, it was.
Uh, I mean the other thing aboutit is so how many times at BCC
have you done a broadcastindoors?
And I don't mean a live stream,like a single cam live stream.
I mean, I mean how many timeshave you done a broadcast?
SPEAKER_04 (37:11):
Yeah, never same.
And not just indoors, but themost baller gym that's the size
of like 500 Walmarts.
It's crazy.
SPEAKER_01 (37:22):
You could live there.
I think I could live there.
SPEAKER_04 (37:27):
That is I I can't begin to it's like the size of
the tennis center in IndianWells, but it's a gym.
And we ate there.
I mean, you can eat there, youcould you can't.
SPEAKER_03 (37:37):
And then a bar, and believe it or not, I'm gonna be
I had a fresh-made Cubansandwich at the cafe in a gym.
SPEAKER_04 (37:43):
I'm gonna be totally honest with you.
We did not go to the bar.
Not at all.
Which is weird.
It is because I wanted to, butwe have professional standards
we try to keep most of the time.
Some of the time.
Yes, sometimes, especiallyindoors, sometimes.
Indoor sports, yes, but it wasfun, and I want to say how much
I appreciate our friends atLifetime.
(38:06):
Like they took a big chance onus, and their customers hate us,
but they like us, I think.
And they're good people, they'rejust good.
SPEAKER_01 (38:18):
You know, you you you meet some people and you see
people and get introduced, andyou're like, those are good
people.
SPEAKER_04 (38:23):
You can tell people that are fake, it's obvious.
Yes.
So big thanks to them.
So then Lifetime Games, youguys.
Oh, and we wanted to talk aboutour camera person, Scott.
Scott.
We go out to dinner and we'retalking about climbing.
I don't climb, I don't think anyof us climb, but my parents
climb and stuff like that.
(38:43):
And somebody brought up EverestBase Camp, and he's like, Yeah,
yeah, yeah, been there.
And we're like, Cool, cool, man.
He's like, Yeah, I actuallyclimbed Everest.
And we're like, What?
He's like, four times, yeah,yeah.
And then with camera games, andwe're like, Why?
He's like, Well, I was thecameraman, yeah.
So, like, all the cool camerafootage you've seen of some of
the better movies that have beenout.
He shot, he shot, and what agreat guy, and what a great
(39:04):
cameraman.
And like the best part of it wasafterwards, he's like, I want to
work for you guys.
SPEAKER_01 (39:09):
He only he only got in my shot one time, and that's
pretty unusual for a broadcast.
SPEAKER_04 (39:14):
I got in one of the lifetime content people's guys
shot the worst I've ever.
SPEAKER_07 (39:19):
Oh my gosh.
SPEAKER_04 (39:21):
Well, he was standing behind a doorway
shooting people coming throughthe doorway, and then I was
shooting the people going intothe doorway, and then I got in
front of one of them and likebacked up, and then like his
lens was what made me realizesomebody was behind me.
SPEAKER_01 (39:34):
What's crazy is I would walk up thinking I'm the
only one shooting someone, andScott's hanging upside down,
shooting, or under a bench.
SPEAKER_03 (39:43):
Dude, I would literally be like, oh man, good
shot, Ed.
Good shot.
Scott, Scott, he's on the sameguy, he's on the same guy, or
the or vice versa.
Like both of them, because bothof them kind of like would hide
behind the gear to get likecreative shots, but then you
couldn't see him except for oneangle.
And so I'd be like, that's thethat looks like the same.
Hey, hey, Ed, Ed, move.
SPEAKER_04 (40:07):
It was impressive, the athletes.
SPEAKER_01 (40:10):
Oh my gosh.
I mean beautiful people, justamazing and stories.
I mean, you talk to a few.
SPEAKER_04 (40:17):
Yeah, I got I shot some I shot some great like
post-race interviews or postevent interviews, and and they
did uh they had this lit wall,and I shot them in front of
that.
And we have a photo on oursocial if you want to see the
lit wall of us standing in frontof it.
And the guy that hired us shotthe picture, yeah, which was
pretty cool.
That he saw us lining up for apicture.
(40:37):
He's like, Let me shoot that.
So that was Lifetime Games.
I couldn't, I could everythingwe've talked about today can be
its own episode.
SPEAKER_01 (40:44):
I got a shout out, Mary from uh Hyper Ice was
there.
What a surprise!
SPEAKER_04 (40:48):
Yeah, and Will and Mary and Hyper Ice are one of
our sponsors.
SPEAKER_01 (40:53):
Yeah, they are they are literally a sponsor.
SPEAKER_04 (40:56):
Hyper Ice, Hyper Ice for Life.
Best recovery stuff ever.
Is it in you?
I don't think that's what theysay.
Oh, man, and it was cool to seeher, and she went out to dinner
with us.
Yeah, and we went to this placecalled I can't remember, but it
was a the giantest sports bar ofall time.
Tom's watch bar downtown.
SPEAKER_01 (41:17):
Shout out to them.
SPEAKER_04 (41:18):
Downtown Minneapolis, which is in
Minnesota.
SPEAKER_01 (41:21):
And they had a pokey bowl.
SPEAKER_04 (41:23):
And it was very good.
SPEAKER_01 (41:24):
It was very good.
Food, surprisingly.
SPEAKER_04 (41:26):
And then I left at 2 a.m., which I got to the airport
before the counter opened, whichdon't do that.
Flew back to San Jose, picked upthe van.
SPEAKER_01 (41:36):
What did you get before you uh got off the plane?
SPEAKER_04 (41:40):
And this is we should have a little promo about
this called Smart Cot.
SPEAKER_01 (41:43):
Smart cot.
Smart cot.
SPEAKER_04 (41:45):
And that's the cot that you take your bags in.
And when you travel with sevenor eight duffel bags, you need a
smart cot.
Smart cot.
So we got the smart cot.
I got the van, drove it to St.
George, got a night's sleep,drove it to Boulder, caught a
flight like eight hours later,to here, where we are, in Panama
(42:08):
Caddy Beach.
Panama Caddy Beach.
And it is caddy.
And this place, like no otherplace, has been such a complete
bust this year.
Until we interviewed.
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (42:23):
The interview with Chris Nikich, Nick Nikich, the
one better than better team.
Changed me forever.
SPEAKER_01 (42:30):
I want those track suits.
SPEAKER_04 (42:32):
They were these.
I mean, it's not hot pink, it'snot red.
It's like a blush or something.
I don't know.
It's a crazy hot red color.
SPEAKER_03 (42:41):
Yeah, like almost like neon.
I don't know how you have a neonin like a fabric, but it felt
like it radiated light.
SPEAKER_01 (42:52):
I have to say I had to adjust my phone because it
was like throwing off this bigmoray off the suits.
It was crazy.
SPEAKER_04 (43:00):
They of all the interviews I've done in my life.
And of all the interviews I'vedone in my life, I think I was
most taken back by the lack ofvisual disability in these
people that were are consideredintellectually disabled, or I
(43:23):
don't even know what you want tosay it, just normal freaking
people.
And they're doing an Iron Manthis weekend.
SPEAKER_03 (43:30):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (43:31):
It blew me away.
SPEAKER_03 (43:32):
Well, it it's so interesting because when we
think about people who areintellectually disabled, people
in the Special Olympics, sooften we expect uh people to
show what they are.
I well people expect to be ableto see your disability on you,
but trying to put that kind ofpressure on people that if I
(43:57):
can't tell that you have adisability, that means you don't
have one is it it waseye-opening tonight to see
people who don't necessarilyshow that disability on their
sleeves and understand they haveto go through life where people
don't know and and can't fullyunderstand without being told
(44:20):
the the struggles that theyface.
SPEAKER_01 (44:23):
Well, and they also don't believe it, you know, even
if they were told, and you you Imean, they were articulate, they
were telling their story and andamazingly articulate and the
things that they talk about whatthey had to endure is an Iron
Man, if not ten more, you know.
So it's it's pretty wild to havethat room that we had with them
(44:48):
and have that time with them andand watching them interact, you
know, it was amazing.
SPEAKER_04 (44:54):
And we got to meet Chris and Nick.
Chris is the first person tofinish an Iron Man, and I don't
I I I hate to say this, I don'tknow what the right term is
because I just look at Chris asa guy, but intellectually
disabled or ID, and it's theterms have changed over the
(45:16):
years and stuff like that.
But just this guy that fin wasthe first one to finish an Iron
Man, and it was back in 2020,and then he's done the Chicago
Marathon.
He was the keynote speaker atrunning USA.
And be honest, were you a littleworried that he was the keynote
speaker at running USA?
Like that's a hard job, and hecrushed it.
SPEAKER_03 (45:38):
Yeah, he crushed it.
Well, it's it's so much like Iwouldn't I wouldn't want to be
under the pressure of having tobe the keynote speaker.
I couldn't do it, and andwatching him come up there and
just be a natural hit him andNick got up together and and
nailed it.
SPEAKER_04 (45:54):
And we were lucky enough to get to do the A V for
that.
We do A V, by the way.
SPEAKER_03 (45:58):
Um, we do.
I you know what?
I almost forgot we also do theDenver metro area.
SPEAKER_04 (46:03):
Yeah.
But um, but that was back then,and it was like this thing that
they said it's gonna be amovement, and then tonight, was
it not amazing to see that itit's not gonna be a movement, it
is a movement, and they'rebringing 15 people to the table
and guides, and it turns out oneof our friends, Daniel Alamon,
(46:25):
Alamon, Alamon, Alamon, from whoLouis, yeah, but from uh
Cattanooga episode Catanooga,and if you haven't heard that,
go back an episode, and he'sguiding one of them, and he kind
of brought it all together, andwhat a cool thing, and what a
great opportunity to meet allthose people tonight.
SPEAKER_03 (46:46):
And I I think Daniel is so two of the people we
interviewed, Alamon, uh, is Noahand Esme.
And I he I think Daniel ishelping guide each of them in a
leg.
SPEAKER_01 (47:02):
Is that what do I understand that correctly?
I think that's what it is, but II mean I want to talk about
Esme.
I mean, she was giving us timesof her halves.
SPEAKER_04 (47:13):
509 at a 70.3.
It's crazy.
She beats me by 2.5 hours.
SPEAKER_01 (47:18):
Yeah.
I mean, that's nuts.
And and you know, she talked, itwas really cool some of the
things she was saying aboutwhere she comes from and and how
things are different here withher being able to go out and do
this.
I mean, it's it's pretty movingto hear that where you come
from.
SPEAKER_04 (47:34):
And we got to interview Chris's mom, and she
was not she was not excitedabout being interviewed because
I said she tried to.
Well, Chris's interview, he justreferred how important his mom
was, and so I was like, Mom,you're up.
And she's like, No, no, no, Idon't do that.
We're like, mom, you're up, andthen she did it and she spit hot
fire.
Absolutely.
And the most important thing shesaid, I was like, Why do you do
(47:56):
all this?
And she said, I'm a mom.
Yeah.
Which was cool.
It is cool.
SPEAKER_03 (48:00):
What a cool night in Panama Caddy Beach.
Well, something that Nick saidtonight, uh, Chris's dad, Nick,
because we interviewed hiscousin Nick as well.
Uh but uh whenever he wastalking about, I I believe this
is Special Olympics um uhdesignations was like uh ID two
(48:22):
and ID one.
And it's it's so interestingthat's not uh terms that I had
heard before.
And their their goal, not noteven their goal, what they're
gonna do this weekend is set abrand new world record at the
Iron Man for ID two for men andID one for men and women.
(48:44):
And he was like, the only reasonwe're not setting one for ID two
for women this weekend isbecause we haven't yet found the
uh person with ID two, the womanwith ID two who wants to do
this, but we are going to findher.
So if you're listening to thisand you have anyone in your life
who's like, Oh, I think I coulddo an I uh Iron Man, you're
inspired to do an Iron Man withsomeone who has ID2 or is in
(49:09):
that category, man, one percentbetter.
That crew, that's where you needto find yourself.
SPEAKER_04 (49:14):
Yeah, amazing people.
I I thought tonight ofeverything I've done in all my
years was one of the most coolnights.
And Eddie was floating aroundthe room shooting behind the
scenes content.
Yeah, it was really that made itfeel super important.
SPEAKER_01 (49:29):
Well, and watching all the interactions between
them.
I mean, it they're one bigfamily.
You know, that's that's what itis.
It's a family.
And uh, you know, seeing Esmerub his back when he was he got
a little verclimped, I think,when the mom was talking.
And so, you know, it's justeverybody is it seemed like it
was important to them to bethere tonight, too.
SPEAKER_04 (49:50):
I think so.
And I don't want to leave outJill Walker uh separate of
everything we just talked about.
We shot an interview with her,and she's doing her 100th Iron
Man this weekend at Iron ManFlorida, and that's kind of a
big deal, huge, and then twothings that jumped off the page
to me about Jill Walker is shesaid, I said, What's your most
(50:13):
memorable moment?
And it was the same moment forme, one of my most memorable
moments, and it was a a guynamed Leo Bourgeois who DNF'd
one year by like 15 seconds andcame back and finished at Iron
Man, Texas.
And the fact that she broughtthat up, I was like, How do you
know that?
(50:33):
Yeah, and then the other thing,her first triathlon was 2006,
Iron Man 70.3 Florida at Disney,and that was my first triathlon.
That's awesome.
SPEAKER_03 (50:42):
Well, and sorry, uh to clarify with Leo, she met
Leo, she saw found him on theFacebook group, and like kind of
was like, Oh, if you see me, I'mwearing the uh chocolate milk uh
jersey, uh say hey, and he sawher and was like, Oh, hey, Jill,
and she was like, Leo, and theydid two laps together, and then
(51:03):
she waited at the finish line tocheer him in uh when he actually
finished, when he when he madethe cutoff, I should say,
because he finished the othertime, but when he made the
cutoff, and then Jill'sbarometer for how successful her
race is is how many dogs shepets on course, which is kind of
whack.
SPEAKER_01 (51:22):
That's that's kind of your rule, too.
SPEAKER_04 (51:23):
Yeah, but I was like, that's pretty impressive.
I think she might have pet mydogs in Court d'Alene.
SPEAKER_03 (51:28):
Wow, so wow, and her PR, which is how many dogs she's
pet, is 200.
SPEAKER_04 (51:37):
But that was a four-loop course, so she's gonna
have a hard time beating that.
But I know a lot of peoplebrought their dogs for her to
pet this weekend.
What a special day here inPanama Kitty Beach.
SPEAKER_01 (51:47):
And it's just started, it's just started, so
it just started.
SPEAKER_04 (51:51):
Yeah, it's been a crazy few months.
Sorry for the super strung out,wacky podcast, but we had to
cover nine months of events.
Yeah, it's we've been we've beenbusy.
But the off season's coming, andwe're gonna ski like crazy.
Oh, yeah, and this podcast turnsinto how to ski it, follow how
to ski it.
Go follow how to ski it, please.
(52:12):
And don't worry that therehasn't been an episode for eight
months.
It's fine.
It's fine.
We're still in the mountains.
SPEAKER_03 (52:18):
Julian, any thoughts?
SPEAKER_00 (52:20):
Yeah, no, day after day we bust it out and we keep
going, and that's what we do.
And um, no, it's been wonderful,and we're happy to keep doing
it.
SPEAKER_03 (52:30):
Do you know why that keeps cutting out?
SPEAKER_04 (52:35):
I love that guy.
SPEAKER_03 (52:36):
It's a good guy.
You know, we'll keep him around.
SPEAKER_04 (52:39):
So, um, god damn it.
I already made the high the songand I already forgot what it was
called.
SPEAKER_03 (52:45):
Isn't it called uh I don't fuck around?
SPEAKER_04 (52:49):
It's it's do what you love, love what you do.
I had it that I had the AI makethat song when it was a lot
happier about my position andlife.
It's been a hard few weeks.
I made it on the flight to Kona.
SPEAKER_01 (53:08):
So you know what we ought to go do is is uh turn
this off and go swim out to thebuoy like we do at the end of
the day.
SPEAKER_04 (53:15):
Jump off the pier.
Yeah.
Alright, so scratch that song.
This is called Jump Off thePier.
Do it, you coward.
SPEAKER_05 (53:26):
Five hundred cats in the fanny.
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