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September 9, 2025 38 mins

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Bro marketing isn’t just used by sleazy internet dudes. It’s everywhere, and a lot of women are unknowingly using it, too.


In this episode of 7-Figure Copy, I’m joined by business strategist and nonprofit expert Jan Ditchfield for a candid conversation about ethical sales, messaging that builds trust, and growing a values-driven business without sacrificing your revenue or your integrity.


Jan built her career in fundraising and with a foundation of nonprofit leadership. Then she brought those skills into the online business world. Today, she helps entrepreneurs sell with strategy and heart, so they can build real businesses that actually last.


Here’s what we talk about in this episode:


  • What bro marketing really is—and how to spot it in your own copy

  • The mindset shift that helps you sell without guilt or second-guessing

  • How “selling like a fundraiser” builds stronger connections and trust

  • The difference between urgency and pressure—and how to use urgency the right way

  • How to sell ethically without softening your message or talking yourself out of the sale

If you’re tired of marketing that feels off, and you want to build a business rooted in trust and truth, this episode is for you.


Learn more about our guest expert, Jan Ditchfield here, and listen to The Business of Good podcast!


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  • 3 short, strategy-packed videos:
     • What Outdated Copy Sounds Like—And What to Say Instead
     • The 4 Sales Page Elements You Can’t Afford to Get Wrong
     • From Good to Irresistible: What Makes Premium Clients Say YES


  • Downloadable episode notes and takeaways


  • 🎁 Guest Resource from Jan Ditchfield: The Ethical Sales Starter Kit—available inside The YES Vault


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To learn more about the services and products I offer and how we can partner together to attract your target audience and boost your sales, please check out my website here.

Got feedback on this episode, a topic suggestion, or a question? Reach out and DM me on Instagram—I’d love to hear from you!

Produced by Cardinal Studio. For more information on starting your own podcast, visit www.cardinalstudio.co or email mike@cardinalstudio.co.

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