Near Dark

Welcome to this season's Halloween Series! To kick things off, Anna and Derek chat about the rules of vampirism, the criminal under usage of Jenette Goldstein, and much more during their discussion of Kathryn Bigelow's Near Dark (1987).

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Anna Keizer and Derek Dehanke are the co-hosts of ‘80s Movie Montage. The idea for the podcast came when they realized just how much they talk – a lot – when watching films from their favorite cinematic era. Their wedding theme was “a light nod to the ‘80s,” so there’s that, too. Both hail from the Midwest but have called Los Angeles home for several years now. Anna is a writer who received her B.A. in Film/Video from Columbia College Chicago and M.A. in Film Studies from Chapman University. Her dark comedy short She Had It Coming was an Official Selection of 25 film festivals with several awards won for it among them. Derek is an attorney who also likes movies. It is a point of pride that most of their podcast episodes are longer than the movies they cover.

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Episode Transcript

SPEAKER_00 (00:09):
Let him go, I'm looking at your body.
You're looking after the mom.
Damn it's my family.
Let him go! The question iswhether they let us go.
They've been tracking us.
Now they know our faces, I saykill them.

SPEAKER_01 (00:27):
Hello, and welcome to 80s movie montage.
This is Derek.

SPEAKER_03 (00:30):
And this is Anna.

SPEAKER_01 (00:32):
And that was Adrian Pazder, Lance Henriksen,
Jeanette Goldstein, and BillPaxton from 1986's Aliens.
Oh.
Wait, no, no.
That's 1987's Near Dark.

SPEAKER_03 (00:48):
That is that was good.
That was good.
I liked, I liked that.
And yeah, Near and Dark, whichis the first of the movies
Halloween Halloween series.

SPEAKER_01 (01:03):
Yeah, no, no.
I think I think I didn't know ifthere was something more.

SPEAKER_03 (01:07):
I love it.
It's my favorite.
It's my favorite time of year.
Yes, near dark, we are kickingthings off with.
And yeah, it's hilarious thatyou said that because it is very
much a reteeming in many ways ofsome of the people.

SPEAKER_01 (01:22):
I mean, it was it was intentional because at the
time Cameron suggested toBigelow like, use these people.
They had good chemistry in thismovie I just made that was
featured on a movie marquee inone of the cities they were in
in Near Dark.

SPEAKER_03 (01:38):
Such a great Easter egg.

SPEAKER_01 (01:39):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (01:40):
That was an amazing Easter egg.
I'm curious, I don't want to getinto all this, but like
obviously Bigelow and Cameronwere married.
So was he already because at thetime he should have been married
to Galen Heard because that wasthe producer on Aliens.
Anyway, I'm already getting offtrack.

SPEAKER_01 (01:55):
Yeah, it it just said, like, future husband
Cameron suggested this.

SPEAKER_03 (02:02):
So yeah, and we are completely bearing the lead
because we have yet againanother female director.

SPEAKER_02 (02:08):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (02:09):
So that's awesome.
And we will get to her in like aminute.
So near dark, as you said, 1987.
And let's start with thewriters.
I love this name.
The first of the two creditedwriters, Eric Red.

SPEAKER_01 (02:26):
Not Eric the Red.

SPEAKER_03 (02:28):
That's exactly that.
You just stole my joke.
Not the Viking, just Eric Red.
And but it does seem so theother, I mean, I'm not trying to
like withhold any information.
The other credited writer isCatherine Bigelow.

SPEAKER_02 (02:41):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (02:42):
It I don't think that they were necessarily like
writing partners, but they dohave another shared credit.
He doesn't have like a hugewriting filmography, but a huge
film that he did do that hadsome life beyond the original
film was The Hitcher.

SPEAKER_01 (02:57):
Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (02:57):
Yeah, which we could do.
Honestly.

SPEAKER_01 (03:00):
Isn't Ruper Hauer in that?

SPEAKER_03 (03:01):
He is.
There you go.
Yes.
And is it see Thomas Howell?
I don't remember who the kid isin it.
But anyway.
So The Hitcher he did, whichthen he has credits as well for
The Hitcher 2.
Colin, I've been waiting.

SPEAKER_01 (03:18):
Yeah, if you're a hitcher, probably.

SPEAKER_03 (03:20):
Which I think went maybe direct to video.
And then I think there was, asthere always is, a reboot.
There's a 2007 The Hitcher.

SPEAKER_01 (03:29):
Do you think that's why there was so much
hitchhiking in Near Dark?

SPEAKER_03 (03:33):
So okay, so what I was thinking about first of all,
you're absolutely right.
There's so much hitchhiking inNear Dark, but I think that that
was like still it I think it wasdefinitely on its way out, but
that still wasn't a completelyunheard of thing in the 80s.

SPEAKER_02 (03:48):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (03:49):
It kind of reminds me of how like off the record we
were talking the other day aboutum quicksand and how quicksand
was like such a thing.
Yes.
Um oh it was C.
Thomas Howell in the Hitcher.
I actually got that right.
Anyway, yeah, I there's a lot ofhitchhiking.
I think that the hitcher wouldnever be made today.
Although I wonder what they didwith the 2007 reboot.

(04:11):
I wonder how they work that.

SPEAKER_01 (04:12):
I mean, it's not a thing where we are.
I mean, maybe in some otherparts of the country, there's
still some hitchhiking going on.
I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 (04:21):
I mean, the synopsis for the reboot, which by the way
stars Sean Bean.

SPEAKER_01 (04:27):
Okay.

SPEAKER_03 (04:28):
A couple from college get caught in a
dangerous game of cat and mousewith a psychopathic hitchhiker.

SPEAKER_01 (04:34):
Yeah, that's why no one picks him up.

SPEAKER_03 (04:35):
That's why nobody picks him up.
But to get back to near dark.
So among Eric Red's othercredits, we have Blue Steel.

SPEAKER_01 (04:44):
Not the look from Zoolander.

unknown (04:46):
Not the look.

SPEAKER_01 (04:46):
But the cop drama with Jimmy Lee Curtis.

SPEAKER_03 (04:49):
Yeah, and that's the title that's gonna be brought up
a couple times.
Uh also Bad Moon, which for somereason always wants to autoplay
when I don't know what streamingservice it is, but if I just
like put a moving movie on, Iswear the next movie is always
like suggested to be Bad Moon.
And then 100 feet.
So the other credited writer Imentioned, Big Low, she look,

(05:11):
she's primarily a director, soshe has a very short writing
credit list.
Uh, this is one of them.
The Loveless is another one ofthem.
And then she also does have acredit, so this is the shared
credit between them.
It is Blue Steel because shedirected that movie as well.
So, and then 10 seconds later,I'm bringing up Blue Steel again

(05:32):
because now we're gonna talkabout her directing credits.
And I'd like to think thatprobably a lot of the people
listening to this podcast arefamiliar with film, film
history.
She is forever going to be inthe history books because well,

(05:53):
because of why.
Why do you think?

SPEAKER_01 (05:55):
Oh.
Um first woman to win bestdirector.

SPEAKER_03 (06:03):
That's absolutely right.

SPEAKER_01 (06:04):
There you go.

SPEAKER_03 (06:04):
I remember watching that ceremony.
I'm like getting emotional aboutit.
Because it's a big deal.

SPEAKER_01 (06:11):
Was it for point break?

SPEAKER_03 (06:14):
Thank you for raking me out of my my crying jag that
is about to begin.
Um it was a big deal.

SPEAKER_01 (06:21):
And it was for the Hurt Locker, right?

SPEAKER_03 (06:24):
It was for the Hurt Locker 2010, which is like
insanity that it took Yes.
Wow.
Insanity.
She wasn't the first nominated,but she was the first to win.
And what's also kind of funnyabout it is that she was up
against Cameron.
Um, I believe for it must havebeen for Avatar.
And so it is it is kind ofhilarious that the two of them

(06:44):
were up against each other.
I mean, what what are the oddsof being up against your
ex-husband or best director?
But I mean, that yeah, that'sand I remember it being such a
big deal that my father, who youknow, what I'm in LA, he was in
Chicago, not a huge movie guy,but he was watching the Oscars,

(07:05):
and as soon as she won, hetexted me about it.
Which like made me just feelthat much more emotional about
it because he knew how importantthat was.
Yeah.
So in any case, um, her creditsinclude so Blue Steel was very
early.
She did direct Point Break.
Yeah.
So fun film, but just outside ofthe 80s, so we can't cover it.

(07:30):
Strange Days, The Weight ofWater.
I mean, she has largely made aname for herself for very
action-forward films.
Um, K including K9, TheWidowmaker.

SPEAKER_01 (07:43):
Oh, K19, you mean?

SPEAKER_03 (07:44):
Oh, I'm sorry, K19.

SPEAKER_01 (07:46):
K K9 or something.

SPEAKER_03 (07:49):
I totally have it written correctly.
I just I just said itincorrectly.
And then, yes, so in 2010, notonly did she win best director
for The Hurt Locker, but alsoshe was a producer on it, and it
won Best Picture that year.
So she got double double Oscarsfor that.
So that's awesome.
She got nominated again a coupleyears later for Dark uh Zero

(08:12):
Dark 30.
I will always say that namewrong.
Um, but she got a nomination forthat, and then more recently she
did the film Detroit.
So interestingly though, I wantto say Detroit was like what,
2017, and I didn't see anythingsince then.
So hopefully she's in the workson something because she's an
incredible filmmaker anddeserves to continue to work.

(08:33):
So I don't know.
Moving on to cinematography,Adam Greenberg.
He is currently 88 years old,and a lot of amazing credits.
Um he's I think retired at thispoint, but among I have yeah,
all films for him.

(08:54):
It's and this is not the firsttime we brought him up.
Probably not the last time.

SPEAKER_01 (08:59):
Probably not.

SPEAKER_03 (09:00):
Yeah, I think I think there are multiple
opportunities actually for us tobring him up again.
Earlier in his career, he didIt's a Funny Funny World, the
last American Version.

SPEAKER_01 (09:10):
Okay.

SPEAKER_03 (09:11):
So we brought him up what, it was last season when we
did the Terminator?

SPEAKER_01 (09:15):
Yes, I think so.

SPEAKER_03 (09:16):
So so he was a share kind of a shared DP between
Bigelow and Cameron.
Um probably recommended byCameron, perhaps.
Probably so also came back forTerminator 2 Judgment Day, for
which he got his one and onlyOscar nomination for best

(09:37):
cinematography.
He did Once Bitten, Iron Eagle,Bla Bamba.
He it's interesting because thisisn't necessarily the case when
you have a sequel, but he alsodid Three Men and a Baby and
came back for that sequel anddid Three Men and a Little Lady.

SPEAKER_01 (09:54):
Peak cinema.

SPEAKER_03 (09:57):
He did Turner and Hooch, Ghost, Dave, a lot of
just one one word titles.
Junior.
He did first night.
Not a great movie, no, but ithit me at a certain time in my
life.
That kiss.
Whew, that kiss.

SPEAKER_01 (10:16):
That like just that movie, like some of those like
um Arthurian kind of uh periods,some of them because of the
casting, they just feel likelike a play more than like a
movie, because the immersion isnot there for me when I'm
watching like because like theKing of England still sounds

(10:36):
like Sean Connery.
Right?

SPEAKER_03 (10:38):
Yeah.
I mean, but you know what?
I'm not I'm not mad at hiscasting.

SPEAKER_01 (10:43):
I'm not upset about it.
It's just it's just likesomething that I'll also like
with Kevin Costner as RobinHood.
Sure.
It's just like that castingsometimes it's like it's hard
for me to not Was Sean Conneryin that movie too?
No, okay, I don't think so.

SPEAKER_03 (10:57):
Uh I will say though, Richard Gere is
Lancelot.
Yeah, no, that makes sense.
It does?
Yeah.
I think that's terrible casting.

SPEAKER_01 (11:05):
No, I could see that.

SPEAKER_03 (11:07):
I swayed you really easily on that one.
No, I I thought I he he is not.
I mean, look, he's a greatactor, but that is not that is
not the rule for him.
But he brought he brought thatlike uh he brought that kiss.
That sass and that impotence ornot impotence, um impuged.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

(11:28):
Whatever that word is, hebrought that.
So anyway, Greenberg shot it.
He also did Eraser, CollateralDamage, so a couple other
Schwarzenegger films.
Uh and Snakes on a Plane.

SPEAKER_01 (11:41):
Ants Fear, which was a pretty solid uh, I think
Michael Crichton book that wasalso made into a movie.

SPEAKER_03 (11:49):
There you go.

SPEAKER_01 (11:50):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (11:51):
Okay, so we have brought them up uh not that long
ago.
Music by Tangerine Dream.

SPEAKER_01 (12:00):
Yeah, and you know what?
I'm gonna say something.
I I think they're great, and inlike every other movie that
we've that we've seen wherethey've done the the score, it's
been amazing.
And even some movies that wecan't cover because of the
period that they were set in.
Correct looking at you,sorcerer.
But it didn't work for me asmuch in this movie.

SPEAKER_03 (12:20):
Yeah, really surprising, right?

SPEAKER_01 (12:22):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (12:23):
I I don't I feel like I don't often call out the
score, but there were a coupletimes actually in this film
where I'm like, huh?

SPEAKER_01 (12:33):
Like most recently in Thief.
We talked about that.

SPEAKER_03 (12:36):
Thief it was fantastic.

SPEAKER_01 (12:37):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (12:38):
Uh perfect scoring for that film.
And that film has still stuckwith me.
Like that was such a surprise tome.

SPEAKER_01 (12:45):
It kind of felt like, hey, do you guys have some
tracks left over from all theseother things that can just kind
of like fit in, maybe?

SPEAKER_03 (12:51):
There were just a couple moments in the film where
I'm like, I don't feel like themusic works right now.

SPEAKER_01 (12:55):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (12:56):
Um, you know, I'm just just one person's opinion,
maybe two people's opinionssince you seem to feel the same
way.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (13:05):
But I notice it right at the beginning too.
Like right from the outset whenyou kind of like hear the music
coming in.
I'm like, oh, yeah, this isn'twhat I expected.
I knew it was them.
Right.
But it part of it is just thatlike the tone of the movie,
yeah.
It never really I'm never reallysure like what they're trying to

(13:28):
establish.
Uh like on one hand, and weprobably talk more about this,
it felt like it was potentiallylike multiple movies kind of
like crammed into one movie, butthen other parts of it, they
were like taking way more timethan it felt was needed.

SPEAKER_03 (13:44):
Yeah, I think confusing.
I look, I will applaud this filmfor like it being a really
interesting, and we'll get wecan get into all of this, but
like I'm always reallyfascinated on like the world
that they set up for vampiresand like the way that the lore
that I think just by osmosisthrough multiple movies and
stories and everything thatwe've like digested over the

(14:06):
course of our lives, like whatwe think the lore is around uh
vampires and how that getsswitched up from no crosses, new
story to new story.

SPEAKER_01 (14:15):
Yeah, no crosses.
Not a single cross in thismovie, but possibly the quickest
and easiest curt to vampirism inall of cinema.

SPEAKER_03 (14:24):
Yeah, I mean, and and also just like the rules, so
to speak, around how quickly youneed to eat to to maintain your
strength and just all that stuffis really interesting.
But uh I'll just say, yeah, thescore does contribute a back to
Tangerine.
Well, it does contribute a lotto what the tone is.

(14:47):
I mean, you're you're right.
And I think I came into the filmwith a preconceived notion of
what I thought it was going tobe.
I thought it was gonna becampier and a little funnier,
and it wasn't that.
And I'm trying to reconcilewhether or not my disappointment
is like fully my fault, or if itcould have been something a

(15:07):
little bit different that wouldhave improved it.

SPEAKER_01 (15:10):
I yeah, I mean, I wouldn't have needed it to be
campier or funnier, but if it'sgonna have a more like serious
vibe to it, yeah, then I thinkthere are other expectations
that come along with that.

SPEAKER_03 (15:21):
And one thing that you brought up that I fully
agree with is like, man, I wishI would have known more about
all those characters, thenon-human characters.
I we get little bits and pieces.
I think we get the most aboutJesse.
We know that he was a Civil Warsoldier.

SPEAKER_01 (15:39):
He yeah, like he was coming up with his backstory,
and before they started filming,he would dye his hair black with
tar, because that's whatapparently like soldiers and men
in the Navy would do in the1800s.
And he took broken fingernailextension pieces and covered his

(16:00):
like fingers with them to looklike like his hands were like
broken, jagged bones orsomething, and he was driving
and and brought on a hitchhikerhimself, and the hitchhiker was
like, Yeah, no, you can just letme out.
Because he looked like a maniacand he was Man, fucking actors.
Yeah, so he gave him eightydollars.

(16:22):
He gave him the eighty dollarsthat he had just to like for
putting up with him and and lethim go.

SPEAKER_03 (16:27):
That's funny.
But yeah, I mean, we we knowthat.
Um I think it's funny when Idon't know if you caught it, but
when Severin, which like made meimmediately think Harry Potter.
Uh, but anyway, when Severin waslike, hey, remember that fire we
started in Chicago?
That was really funny.
Yeah.

(16:48):
So like there's all these likelittle tidbits that we learn.
It sounds like May was turnedvery recently.
She was just turned, like, Ithink she said four years ago,
because she was still in highschool.
Homer turned her because he wasa fifth grader, or he he
presented himself as a fifthgrader that needed help.
Anyway, we get these bits andpieces, but like I would have

(17:08):
loved to have learned more aboutall those characters.
We know basically nothing aboutDiamondback.

SPEAKER_01 (17:14):
Well, that's what I what I meant in terms of like it
could have it could have beenlonger.
Like, that's that's an areawhere I'm like, yeah, I would
have loved to have seen more ofit.

SPEAKER_03 (17:23):
It's a really tight film, so they actually could
have anyway.
Okay, getting back to TangerineDreams.
Oh my god, we're still talkingabout it.
Yeah, some of the other credits,which we've covered a lot.
Uh, we mentioned a thief.
We have not yet done riskybusiness, uh, but they scored
that.
Firestarter, we could also dovision quest, we could also do,
but we have done also Legend.

SPEAKER_01 (17:44):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (17:44):
Probably the strongest, I would say.

SPEAKER_01 (17:46):
What is Vision Quest?
Why is that?

SPEAKER_03 (17:47):
That's the one with Matthew Modine and Linda
Fiordino, and I think he's likea wrestler.

SPEAKER_02 (17:54):
Okay.

SPEAKER_03 (17:55):
And it has Jake from 16 Candles in it.
Okay.
I think Madonna has anappearance in it.
In fact, she was like getting sopopular at the time that I think
in some countries the title ismore about Madonna, I think,
than anyway.
And then uh they also scored afilm which I love.
It's the 1989 Catch Me If YouCan.

(18:16):
Nothing to do with theSpielberg.

SPEAKER_01 (18:18):
Oh, interesting.

SPEAKER_03 (18:19):
Okay, moving on to film editing.
Howard E.
Smith, he's gonna turn 80 thisyear.
So well done.
Also, I think retired, maybe atthis point.
So some of his credits.
Um we probably we probably didbring him up because I do think
we were covering most of thepeople from this film.

(18:42):
Twilight Zone, the movie, hespecifically edited segment
four.
So isn't that the 10,000 feet,whatever one?

SPEAKER_01 (18:51):
Oh is that the last segment?

SPEAKER_03 (18:56):
I think that's the last segment.

SPEAKER_01 (18:57):
Of the William Shatner thing on the plane.
Okay.

SPEAKER_03 (18:59):
I think that's the last one.

SPEAKER_01 (19:00):
I yeah, I think it is because then he's like
leaving in the ambulance, andthe driver of the ambulance is
Aykroyd.
There you go.
Brings it back, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (19:10):
So we covered him for Baby, Secret of the Lost
Legend.
Go check that one out.
We did that one with Chris acouple seasons ago.
He cut at close range, he alsodid River's Edge, which I don't
know if I'm gonna ever want tocover that one.
Um, he also we covered him whenwe did The Abyss.
Oh.
That one was with James, so gocheck that one out.

(19:31):
So he reteams with Bigelowbecause he cuts Point Break.
He also does Glengarry GlennRoss.

SPEAKER_01 (19:39):
Amazing family comedy.

SPEAKER_03 (19:40):
That's a hard movie to get through.
I mean, it's a play that wasturned into Yeah.
So it's just oh, they're all soawful to each other.

SPEAKER_01 (19:48):
That scene with Alec Baldwin, though, yeah, I know, I
know.

SPEAKER_03 (19:52):
They're it's a great film.
Yeah, they all do great.

SPEAKER_01 (19:55):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (19:55):
It's a hard movie to watch.

SPEAKER_01 (19:58):
It is.

SPEAKER_03 (19:59):
So anyway.
Strange Days, so he teams upwith her again.
She must have liked him as hereditor.
He does Dante's Peak again,because he cuts the weight of
water.
Blade Trinity.

SPEAKER_01 (20:11):
Oh my god, that movie.
That the movie's kind of grownon me.
Oh my god, it's so bad.

SPEAKER_03 (20:17):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (20:18):
It's so bad.

SPEAKER_03 (20:19):
It's kind of grown on me.
He also, uh, this is kind of afunny like teeming.
It's not, it's not CatherineBigelow, but whereas um
Greenberg shot Snakes on aPlane, Howard cut it.

SPEAKER_01 (20:34):
So there's always one movie that just like always
pops up.

SPEAKER_03 (20:36):
Kind of a weird, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (20:38):
And today it's Snakes on a Plane.

SPEAKER_03 (20:39):
I had to just bring this up because he cut Nights of
Bad Astom.

SPEAKER_01 (20:44):
Oh, we never watched that.

SPEAKER_03 (20:45):
We've like um Yeah, it's come up before.

SPEAKER_01 (20:47):
We've looked, we watched the trailer.
We've always considered watchingit.
We've not done so yet.

SPEAKER_03 (20:52):
We have not done so.
And then lastly, he cutVengeance Colin.
A love story.

SPEAKER_01 (20:57):
I love it.

SPEAKER_03 (20:59):
Alright, we're at the stars of the film.
Starting with, and you just madesure that we would say his name
right, Adrian Pazder.
Yeah.
Who plays Caleb?
Caleb Colton.

SPEAKER_01 (21:12):
Kind of two first names, but Yeah, Colton is the
first name.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (21:16):
So interesting because in many regards, uh
unknown lead.
He he had like a bit part, so heplayed a character named Chipper
and Top Gun.
I think he had like one linebecause I was like, who the hell
is that?
In Top Gun.
And I think at the likegraduation ceremony, he's the
character who's like, Where'sMaverick?

(21:38):
I think that's his line.

SPEAKER_01 (21:40):
Amazing.

SPEAKER_03 (21:42):
So that's like Chippa.
Mostly what what he had donebefore this movie comes along.
Um, and yeah, he's he's verymuch sleeds.
He's the human, which like,look, I was saying this a couple
times at the beginning of thefilm.
I'm not a huge fan of the waythat he was coming on to May.

SPEAKER_01 (22:01):
He comes on real strong.
So much other bullshit happensthat you kind of forget that
this dude was just like kind ofpredatory.

SPEAKER_03 (22:10):
Yes, kind of gross.

SPEAKER_01 (22:11):
I I honestly I don't know what was going on between
him and May because I assumedthat she was just gonna like
kill him.
Like feed off him, but I meanshe just wanted she just wanted
to night out, it appears.

SPEAKER_03 (22:25):
It was clear that you know he was gonna survive
what was gonna whatever wasgonna happen because he's the
lead.
We start with him, so I didn'tthink he was gonna die, but you
know, it's interesting, likeknowing like you said the same,
like it's pretty clear, evenwith her introduction, that like
right away you kind of knowshe's a vampire.

(22:46):
Um it seemed like the originalintent of her evening was just
to find a kill, but she seemedto be attracted to him or
interested in him, or I couldtotally see why she wasn't like
total jiving with the rest ofher crew.
Like she's very different thanthe rest of them.

SPEAKER_01 (23:08):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (23:08):
So it's it felt like you know, she kept hesitating to
bite him, and it felt like sheon the one hand, and very quick
quick turnaround, felt enoughfor him that she didn't want to
do that to him, but also didn'tI don't know, want to leave him.

(23:29):
Like, I don't know, it was avery interesting opening.
I couldn't quite get the senseof what her intention was.

SPEAKER_01 (23:34):
Yeah, and that's like that is kind of a common
thread that you can like pull onand unravels in a lot of other
scenes in the movie where I'mlike, I'm not really sure why
this person is acting the waythat they're acting, but I'm
willing to just kind of acceptit and watch it because we

(23:56):
didn't really know.
Like it it seemed, like yousaid, really obvious that she
was just there to like bait avictim and then I don't know
why.
Like, was there somethingspecial about Yeah?

SPEAKER_03 (24:06):
I'm like, why are you all of a sudden caring about
this guy?
He's kind of treating youhorribly.

SPEAKER_01 (24:10):
And and like she was freaking out because it was near
dawn, which would have been, Ithink I said, a better title for
this, because it's constantlyalways near dawn in the that is
something that I do need tobring up about this film is that
there seems to be a lot ofloosey-goosey with like what
time of day it is.
Dawn is in five minutes, tenminutes later, high noon.

SPEAKER_03 (24:32):
Yeah, it's it is very all over the place with
like what time of day it is.
And it seems to like be a littleconvenient that like you know,
the sun's out when when theyneed to get out of like anyway.

SPEAKER_01 (24:46):
It was um so it was about to come up, yeah, and he's
like, Okay, I'll take you homebecause she was really nervous
because she's gonna fucking likedie or undie or whatever it
would be called.
Um and he's like, sure, but yougotta give me a kiss.

SPEAKER_03 (25:01):
Gross.

SPEAKER_01 (25:02):
What?
Yes, gross.
It is, yeah.
Yeah.
Like so I my my what was justlike my reaction in the moment
to that, like to him sayingthat.
That's why it's like, what doyou like?

SPEAKER_03 (25:13):
I didn't look, I didn't like fall and hate the
guy throughout the entire film.
I was able to move on from that.
But it's hard because this was afilm where I didn't really the
person I cared the most aboutwas actually his little sister.
She was a little badass.
Yeah, she was.
She was amazing when she's like,like she didn't drop the F
bombs, but basically she's like,I fucking do what I want when I
want.

SPEAKER_01 (25:32):
Like that was amazing.

SPEAKER_03 (25:34):
Right.

SPEAKER_01 (25:35):
Yeah.
But that was the moment whereshe just, where Mae just kind of
like nicks his neck.

SPEAKER_03 (25:41):
Yes.

SPEAKER_01 (25:42):
And she's in kind of peril because the sun's coming
up.

SPEAKER_03 (25:46):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (25:47):
Like, not a whole lot about that.
Like, there were so many otheropportunities during that
interaction they had, which Iguess was the entire night, that
would have made sense.
I don't know if they were tryingto like rush him to so that he
would be in the daylight, sothat now suddenly he's like
immediately like smoking becauseof being in the sun.

SPEAKER_02 (26:15):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (26:15):
Because like Homer full on is on fire within
seconds of being outside.
Yeah.
Whereas May, I guess a a blanketcures all things as long as
you're under a blanket andyou're fine.

SPEAKER_01 (26:27):
Always have a blanket.

SPEAKER_03 (26:28):
Always have a blanket.
Um, because she was outsideexactly the same way Homer was,
but like it looked like Calebhad just covered her in a
blanket and she was fine.

SPEAKER_01 (26:38):
Well, look, I got news for everyone here.
There are things called hoodiesand gloves.

SPEAKER_03 (26:44):
Yeah, wait, now that Jesse was driving and his hands
were out fine, like just pullyour sleeve up, man.

SPEAKER_01 (26:52):
Why don't I why don't they have why don't they
just have gloves?

SPEAKER_03 (26:55):
Yeah, I didn't really understand the rules
around how much the sun affectsyou.

SPEAKER_01 (27:00):
Because then also like After an undetermined
amount of time, you will fuckingexplode.

SPEAKER_03 (27:05):
Like when they were having the shootout with the
cops, yeah, and the cops areshooting holes into the hotel,
yeah, presumably like thevampires are clothed.
And so even though the sun wasshooting in, it felt like, but
if they have clothing on, thatpart of their skin still sets on
because like you were seeinglittle things of fire on them.

SPEAKER_01 (27:24):
Yeah, not sure.

SPEAKER_03 (27:25):
And and yeah, so like I didn't understand the
rules about what you need to doto protect yourself if you have
direct sunlight on you.

SPEAKER_01 (27:34):
That's something that I don't know if a single
vampire movie addresses that thesame way, because the the moment
where like all the bullet holeswere creating all these separate
shafts of light, it reminded meof like the end of From Dust
Till Dawn, where where that'shappening, and sometimes it's
someone inside a building willjust start intentionally

(27:55):
shooting to create light toprotect themselves.

SPEAKER_03 (27:57):
They do that in Fright Night.

SPEAKER_01 (27:59):
Sometimes, sometimes just like a single beam of the
sun hits a vampire and theyimmediately turn to dust.

SPEAKER_03 (28:05):
Yes.

SPEAKER_01 (28:06):
That wasn't the case here, but we weren't really sure
how it's supposed to work.

SPEAKER_03 (28:14):
Yeah.
But within that rule, I wasn'tunderstanding the sub rules.

SPEAKER_01 (28:19):
Like this is this is kind of what I meant when I'm
like, if it's campy or or not,like it doesn't really bother
me, but if it's just like campyand funny, then I don't care as
much about some of these things.

SPEAKER_03 (28:31):
Well, that's the reason why I brought up the
campy thing, because like ifthere was some camp or some
humor, I could let a lot moreslide.
Exactly.
But because they're if theyplayed it pretty straight, and
what I was saying just a coupleminutes ago about Caleb, it was
really hard for me to like rootfor any character.

SPEAKER_01 (28:51):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (28:52):
And so, and especially like, look, that bar
scene is really brutal.
I I completely acknowledge thatthat was probably absolutely the
intent of it.
Yeah.
You know, but as like a viewer,it's just hard to like really
care what is the outcome for anyof these characters because they
never set up anything that'sthat's really sympathetic for

(29:15):
any of the vampires.

SPEAKER_01 (29:17):
You don't get to know any of them enough to even
start feeling that.

SPEAKER_03 (29:21):
Like, you know, it's the whole save the cat thing
where it's like, give me onething for each character that
that captures my like affectionor attention for them.

SPEAKER_02 (29:32):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (29:33):
You know, give me something.
Like Homer's a little brat fromthe outset.
Severin is just a maniac.

SPEAKER_01 (29:39):
Yeah, like Bill Paxton, his character was
probably the most completebecause it was just a complete
maniac.

SPEAKER_03 (29:46):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (29:47):
Like I didn't really need to know a ton because that
was his thing, is he was justthe crazy one.

SPEAKER_03 (29:51):
And you know what?
Like, he could have still playedit that way if I had had
something to latch on to forHomer, Jesse, or Diamondback.
Yeah.
I then yeah, let Severin be thecrazy one.

SPEAKER_01 (30:03):
But I got nothing from any of them.

SPEAKER_03 (30:04):
But I got nothing from any of them.

SPEAKER_01 (30:05):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (30:05):
And honestly, they did such a disservice to Diamond
Back because Jeanette Goldsteinis phenomenal.
They gave her almost nothing towork with.

SPEAKER_01 (30:14):
She had very little to do.
Yeah.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (30:16):
And I was like, come on, I want more.
Like I love her.
Like I'm obviously um thinkingof her role as Vesquez and
Aliens, and she is fuckingphenomenal in that film, one of
the best performances ever.
Like it's crazy that more peoplestill don't bring that up.
I know that there's a lot ofkind of like, you know, around

(30:38):
the fact that she's essentiallyin brown face for that role.
Yeah.
But she plays the rolemagnificently.
And I'm like, give her more todo in this movie.

SPEAKER_01 (30:48):
Yeah.
That wasn't it wasn't as asuncommon as you would think,
particularly in the 80s.
So just go look up ShortCircuit.

SPEAKER_03 (30:57):
Oh, yeah.
I mean, like, look, his uhHollywood has a long history
from its very first days, andit's this is not this is not
acceptable, but it did have avery long history of whether or
not you know characters areactually put into brown or
blackface, but at the veryleast, characters who are not of
a particular ethnicity wereplayed for that ethnicity.

(31:18):
So like Mickey Rooney playingsomeone of Asian descent.
Oh, yeah.
Like insane, insane casting insome cases.
Um, but also say, like, I I justwish I would have seen more from
her and and just for many of thecharacters.
But getting back to Adrian.
Yes.
So Chipper and Top Gun.
Um, he, I mean, he has been sobusy.

(31:40):
Uh, I have like a lot of TV forhim.
I do so a couple films earlierin his career, still Carlito's
Way, the puppetess of love.
I love that word.
Okay, so here we go.
A ton of TV, a lot of likeone-offs, two-offs, but also a
lot of longer stints on certainshows.
So he was on the show Prophet.
I think he was a lead characteron that.

(32:01):
Mysterious Ways, Judging Amy,Heroes.
He was on Heroes for a while.

SPEAKER_01 (32:05):
That's where I remember him from.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.

SPEAKER_03 (32:08):
So here's what's so interesting.
He does a ton of voice work inthe Marvel world.
And guess what character heplays for like animated series?

SPEAKER_01 (32:17):
Well, I know it, so I won't guess it, but you can
tell me.

SPEAKER_03 (32:19):
Tony Stark slash Iron Man.
Yep.
So he is Tony Stark in theanimated series Iron Man.
Um, he's done Marvel anime, thelying game game.
I'm sorry.
Avengers assemble, again, likeTony Stark slash Iron Man.

SPEAKER_02 (32:36):
Yep.

SPEAKER_03 (32:36):
Colony.
So some of these are eitherbehind the scenes doing voice
work or in front of the camera,and then more recently, Agents
of Shield.
So that's funny because likehe's still in that world, but
now he it's like live action,he's in front of the camera.
So I think that's all really funhow that ties together.

SPEAKER_01 (32:52):
He is deep into the Marvel universe.

SPEAKER_03 (32:54):
Yes.
So moving on to May, JennyWright.
Um, not a huge filmography forher.
It I I was doing like a littlebit of a dive into her history
because I really wasn't superfamiliar with her.
It sounds like there was a lotof repeat casting with her and
kind of like a I don't know ifI'd go so far as to saying femme

(33:16):
fatale, but kind of those typesof roles, and I don't think that
was really driving for her.

SPEAKER_02 (33:22):
Okay.

SPEAKER_03 (33:22):
Um, but that was kind of all she could get.
So I think that maybe she justdecided to peace out.
Uh however, what I do have forher, the world according
according to Garb.
Oh, really?
Okay.
She's in St.
Elmo's Fire, which we might bedoing later this year.
Uh she's in the 1989 Twister.

(33:44):
So not not the Bill.

SPEAKER_01 (33:46):
Oh.

SPEAKER_03 (33:47):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (33:48):
I didn't know there were okay Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (33:49):
So she's in that.
Young Guns 2.
A TV show called Capitol News,The Lawnmower Man.

SPEAKER_01 (33:57):
That was not good.

SPEAKER_03 (33:58):
Yeah, I've heard I've never seen it, but
actually.
It wasn't her not her fault, butit was actually and then um, and
lots of like TV appearances, butthen I think her last credit, it
was I I she's she's I think outof the industry.
It was a short called uh NadjaYet.
It's from 2007.

SPEAKER_01 (34:15):
She played the role of Nadia Yet.

SPEAKER_03 (34:18):
Oh, she was I didn't even look at her her title.
Okay.
Getting to, is it all three in arow?
Yes, it is.
Our aliens crew, starting withLance Hendrickson.
He is 85 years old.

SPEAKER_01 (34:35):
That's awesome.

SPEAKER_03 (34:36):
Still going strong.
I mean, he is working, working,working.
He currently has over 250credits.
And yeah, he plays Jesse Hookerin this film.
Yep.
And I mean, would you agree thatas little as we know about the
vampires, we probably in someways know the most about him?
Like with the little things thatthey drop about him.

SPEAKER_01 (34:58):
Yeah, I mean, we know that he was a Confederate
soldier before he became avampire.

SPEAKER_03 (35:05):
It seems like he's the eldest of the vampires.

SPEAKER_01 (35:07):
I think so.
Yeah.
And we don't know a whole lotmore than that.

SPEAKER_03 (35:12):
Yeah, he presumably started the Chicago fire with
Severin in 1871.
So he did that.
Um he is brutal, but it doesseem like he also like look,
some things I do understand.
You know, he's upset that umwhat the hell's his name?

(35:32):
Caleb.
That Caleb didn't kill that kidin the bar because now that kid,
and that's exactly what he does.
He goes to the police, and nowhe can identify them.
So he does have like um arational logic about him for his
own survival.

SPEAKER_01 (35:48):
Yeah, he's a survivor, which was kind of
interesting for you know avampire that had been around
that long.
I feel like in most other likevampire stories, they're like
successful financially.
Yeah.
Like they're not just scavengersliving off the road, which is

(36:10):
what they were doing.
So that was something where I'mlike, okay, I I can get on board
with that, but without thebackstory of understanding like
why that's their like that'stheir lot in life.

SPEAKER_03 (36:22):
That's a really interesting point, because
you're absolutely right.
Like, I think that is what wesee a lot of, even most recently
when we um we dumped it afterthe second or before the second
season, but um a discovery ofwitches.

SPEAKER_01 (36:35):
Oh my gosh, that was like that was a discovery of
something for sure.

SPEAKER_03 (36:39):
That first season was so good.
And then as soon as they likewent back in time, I was like,
I'm gone.
But yes, I mean the vampire inthat story, they're extremely
wealthy.

SPEAKER_01 (36:53):
Yeah, because they've been around so long.
Like apparently, apparentlyJesse Hooker made some real shit
investments.

SPEAKER_03 (37:00):
But that's yeah, that's such an interesting point
that they kind of just they theylive on the road, they don't put
down roots anywhere.
I thought it was kind of funnythat the motel manager was like,
Don't I remember you?
Didn't you come through here?
I'm like, are you seriouslytelling me you remember somebody
from like 50 years ago?
He is quite a distinguishable.
I mean, sure.
I don't know if I'd remembersomebody 50 years down the road.

SPEAKER_01 (37:23):
Maybe there's that weird rat tail he had in the
back of his.

SPEAKER_03 (37:32):
But those little things were fun.
Like I like when those littlethings come up.
And yeah, but he he is stillvery brutal.
You know, he immediately shutsdown the idea of letting Caleb's
family go.
Um, kind of for the samereasons, but there's like
there's just not even aconsideration of keeping them

(37:53):
alive.

SPEAKER_01 (37:54):
Yeah, because they were they successfully tracked
them and they know what they'lllook like.

SPEAKER_03 (37:58):
So yeah.
So and and he's also very hardon Caleb.
Like it's kind of interesting tome because like really this is
all May's fault.
She turned him.

SPEAKER_01 (38:08):
For sure.

SPEAKER_03 (38:09):
And and they give him like no time to I thought
that that was interesting, isthat they it's very calculated
in the film that he never killsa single person.

SPEAKER_01 (38:19):
He does not.
Yeah.
He kills he kills a fewvampires, but real quickly, I
just want to point out theynever use that word a single
time in the movie.

SPEAKER_03 (38:28):
A single time.

SPEAKER_01 (38:29):
Nor do you see a single thing.

SPEAKER_03 (38:31):
Yeah, I mean, they do that a lot in different
films.
Like, there's a ton of zombiemovies where they never mention
the word zombie.

SPEAKER_01 (38:38):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (38:38):
You know, I think that was the whole thing with uh
The Walking Dead.
That term is never used.

SPEAKER_01 (38:44):
So is this a universe where no one's ever
heard of what a vampire is?

SPEAKER_03 (38:48):
I well, that's so interesting because like Caleb
seems to pick up.
I mean, once he's turned, maybemore specifically, once he
drinks from May, he seems toimmediately understand what what
is happening.
But so it's like there seems tobe some understanding of what

(39:08):
this life or uh undead life islike.
I don't I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 (39:14):
This undead life.
This undead life.

SPEAKER_03 (39:16):
So Lance Hendrickson, uh what a career
this guy has had and continuesto have.
Early in his career, he has avery bit part.
I'm trying to remember, is he?
I think he's one of the guysthat um at the end of Close
Encounters of the Third Kind,he's like at that final where
they're communicating with it,right?

SPEAKER_01 (39:37):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (39:37):
So he's in that.
He's in Damien Colen Omen 2.

SPEAKER_01 (39:42):
Okay.

SPEAKER_03 (39:43):
He this went off the air a long time ago, but for a
while he was on that uh soapopera Ryan's Hope.

SPEAKER_01 (39:50):
Never heard of that.

SPEAKER_03 (39:51):
Yeah, exactly.
I don't know if this would havebeen the first time he would
have interacted with Cameron,but he was in Prana 2 The
Spawning.
So he's in that.
The Right Stuff, which we couldcover at some point.
Oh yeah.
I do really love his little partin, and I'm not trying to say
that rudely, but like hissmaller role in The Terminator.

SPEAKER_01 (40:14):
He is what is he?
He's a he's in the cop station,right?
Yes, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (40:19):
He's like, I don't know if you'd call him a cop or
a detective, but he is the onethat is kind of communicating
with the head guy who is alsophenomenal in that role.
God, they really they gave somuch to those roles.
Um, he's really good in that.
He's in Jagged Edge.
So, as we have mentionedmultiple times at this point, he
is Bishop in Aliens.

SPEAKER_02 (40:40):
Yep.

SPEAKER_03 (40:41):
And this, you know, his his uh part in this role
then has a huge ripple effect.
Because he's been in a ton ofother alien properties.
Um he is an alien three,probably not for very long
though, right?
He's you know that movie betterthan I do.

SPEAKER_01 (41:02):
He um I think they they do something with his head
kind of similar to what they didwith Ash.

SPEAKER_03 (41:09):
Okay.

SPEAKER_01 (41:10):
So there's something like So like what get
information?
Yeah, but then it's either likeanother another synthetic, but
it's like it's him.
I I couldn't remember if it waslike the human or like the
person that Bishop was based offof.
It's Bishop 2, is like what he'scast as in that, but yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (41:30):
But yeah, he's he has parlayed that role into like
other to involvement in otheralien properties.

SPEAKER_01 (41:37):
Wasn't he in um Alien versus Predator?
The first one?

SPEAKER_03 (41:41):
Yes, he is.

SPEAKER_01 (41:41):
And did it not really make sense?

SPEAKER_03 (41:43):
Or or did it it so okay, it's been a minute since
I've watched that movie.
But um is he supposed to be ahuman and maybe a human based
off like that they used tocreate a synthetic?
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't remember, but he doesOh, you know who?

SPEAKER_01 (41:57):
He's Charles Bishop Whalen.

SPEAKER_03 (41:59):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (42:00):
So he's part of the Whalen corporation.
Okay.

SPEAKER_03 (42:02):
Yeah, so that's why, like, did they create a
synthetic off of him?

SPEAKER_01 (42:05):
That seems like something someone with that ego
would do.

SPEAKER_03 (42:07):
Yeah, yeah.
I think something like that.
So anyway, um, and then hisother franchise, Pumpkinhead.
Yes, what?
We're not doing that thisHalloween series because we did
that way back for an earlierHalloween series with Sarah.
So please go check out that one.
And he also has returned to thatfor Pumpkin Head colon ashes to

(42:30):
ashes and pumpkin head for colonblood feud.

SPEAKER_01 (42:35):
I always love the the colons in these uh horror
sequels.

SPEAKER_03 (42:39):
Yeah, me too.
Sometimes they're real fun.
He is in house three, colon, thehorror show.

SPEAKER_01 (42:46):
There you go.
We haven't seen two yet, havewe?

SPEAKER_03 (42:48):
We watched Do we own it?
Did I buy one and two?

SPEAKER_01 (42:52):
I think so, because we watched the first one.
It got it it gets weird.
It gets real weird.

SPEAKER_03 (42:58):
I've heard two's even more bonkers.

SPEAKER_01 (43:00):
Well, we saw the did we see a trailer for two after
like immediately following one?
Probably.
There was something weird aboutit.
It's like, what is this?
Back to the future two orsomething?
Where they like would show youthe bits from from three at the
end of it.

SPEAKER_03 (43:13):
Oh, oh.
He's also in Jennifer Eight.
I didn't so I never watched thisone, but he is King Bowser in
Super Mario Bros.
Not the one that came out acouple years ago, but the one
from the 90s with what BobHoskins?
A live action one?
Yeah.
He's in a couple like infamousmovies.

SPEAKER_01 (43:31):
Nintendo is like, we're not fucking making a movie
for decades after that.

SPEAKER_03 (43:37):
Uh Color of Night, he is in.
The Quick and the Dead, DeadMan, Powder.
He is he is mostly TV, but hehas done, or I'm sorry, mostly
film, but he has done some TVwork.
He was on the show for a while,I think.
Millennium, which I think waslike the main guy.
I don't know that show.

SPEAKER_01 (43:54):
It it had like uh an X-Files kind of feel to it, I
think.
Or was that other one?
Fringe?
Like they're they're kind ofthat kind of a style of show, I
think.

SPEAKER_03 (44:04):
He is a real swarmy guy, but he's really fun in
Scream Three.

SPEAKER_02 (44:09):
Hmm.

SPEAKER_03 (44:09):
He's like kind of uh amalgamation of every CD gross,
like director slash producer inHollywood.
Like that's kind of thecharacter he plays.
Okay.
Yeah.
He, to your point, Alien versusPredator.
He did some voice work on the TVseries Tron Uprising.

(44:30):
He was on the show The Blacklistfor a bit.
Uh, a film, Exorcism at 60,000feet.

SPEAKER_01 (44:38):
That's a high altitude exorcism.

SPEAKER_03 (44:40):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (44:40):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (44:41):
And just a ton more.
I mean, he's just this is afraction of the work that he's
done, but he's still gone, sogood for him.
All right.
Moving on to Bill Paxton.
He plays Severin, and this hascome up before because this is
not the first time we've talkedabout him, but this one this one

(45:02):
made me really sad when hepassed away in 2017.
He was only, I think, about 61years old.
Um he passed away fromcomplications of heart surgery.
And I think that was shockingfor everybody.
Like from everything that I'veever read about him, he was a
great guy and everybody lovedhim.

SPEAKER_02 (45:21):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (45:22):
Uh, and he was always like a joy to have on
set.
And it is it's really a shamethat he passed away.
I mean, some people might think61 doesn't sound so young, but
it kind of is nowadays.
Yeah.
So he he left us too soon.
And as far as his work goes, um,especially earlier in his
career, all films for him and ahuge amount of like like huge

(45:45):
blockbuster films, he has a verybit role.
I don't we just did this one nottoo long ago, so I don't even
think we brought him up.
Stripes.

SPEAKER_01 (45:53):
Soldier.

SPEAKER_03 (45:54):
Yeah, he's like a soldier, yeah.
But he has a really fun littlebit role at the beginning of The
Terminator.

SPEAKER_01 (46:01):
Oh, yeah.
Uh that interaction at I thinkwhat is Griffith Park or
Griffith Observatory.
Correct.
Yeah.
When nude Schwarzenegger walksup and I think it's I think it's
Paxton who's like, nice nightfor a walk, eh?

SPEAKER_03 (46:19):
Yeah, which you said to me just the other day when we
were at the park.
Uh yeah.
So he's in that.
And then it's funny becausethere are parts of this film,
Near Dark, that like the truckscene that felt very
Terminator-ish.

SPEAKER_01 (46:37):
Yeah.
The truck driver's like, getout.

SPEAKER_03 (46:40):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Both the original Terminator andT2, because they both have like
truck scenes.
Yeah.
And there was a lot of like, Idon't know, that vibe just hit
the same way.
So he also probab it's kind of afunny role to like make your
name on initially, but he is theasshole older brother Chet in
Weird Science, which we have notdone yet.

(47:02):
However, when we were watchingNear Dark for this show, I was
like, oh my God, he's using thesame laugh.
Chet laugh.
The Chet laugh.
Uh, which I just thought wasfunny.
He's in commando.
I mean, the whole thing aboutBill Paxton is that everybody
says like he's the only guy whoever was like killed by an alien
and a predator and a terminator.

SPEAKER_01 (47:23):
Yeah.
Xenomorph, predator, terminator.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (47:27):
Yeah.
And I think there's a coupleother things that he's been
killed by.
But anyway, those are thebiggies.
Uh so commando, aliens, predatortwo.
So he's in the second one.

SPEAKER_01 (47:38):
But my favorite thing about Predator 2 is how
they try so desperately to makeLos Angeles seem like it's New
York.
There's like such a focus onlike film in New York.

SPEAKER_03 (47:48):
Like, just have it set in New York.

SPEAKER_01 (47:50):
Like the yeah, just like the focus on like the
downtown stuff.
And I'm like, hmm, interesting.

SPEAKER_03 (47:56):
Yeah, it's it's weird.
Anyway, he's in another kind ofinfamous, infamous film, Boxing
Helena.
He's in Tombstone.

SPEAKER_01 (48:04):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (48:05):
Uh, so he's the youngest ERP brother.
He has a fun role in True Lies.

SPEAKER_01 (48:11):
Simon.
Yeah, he's great in that.

SPEAKER_03 (48:12):
He's great.
I mean, so he reteams withCameron on that one.

SPEAKER_01 (48:16):
Swarmy used car salesman guy.

SPEAKER_03 (48:18):
I appreciate that he is he was up for like taking
roles like that, even thoughhe's pretty big at that point.

SPEAKER_01 (48:24):
But it's like another Cameron Schwarzenegger
movie, so sure.

SPEAKER_03 (48:28):
Yeah.
Uh he is in Apollo 13.
So he is one of the Apollo 13astronauts.
Yep.
He's we mentioned a differenttwister.
He is in the twister that mostpeople are familiar with, with
Helen Hunt.

SPEAKER_01 (48:42):
Uh, he is in Titanic, so he is not part of
the mostly flashback of a filmthat it is, but he is the He's
the guy looking for the jewel ofthat goddamn old lady threw in
the ocean.

SPEAKER_03 (48:56):
I'm sorry, that will never not annoy the fuck out of
me that she just throws it intothe ocean.

SPEAKER_01 (49:01):
Selfish, selfish lady.

SPEAKER_03 (49:05):
He's into Simple Plan, Mindy Joe Young, Frailty,
which did he direct that one aswell?

SPEAKER_01 (49:10):
I don't know, but that's like a sneaky good movie
that like I don't think it evergot a ton of attention or
traction.
Powers Booth is in it too.
He's great too.
Yeah, no, that that movie isreally good.

SPEAKER_03 (49:26):
Well, he's in it, and I I want to say he directed
it too.
He so okay, so he transitions toTV and he transitions in a big
way.

SPEAKER_01 (49:34):
He did direct it by the way.
Oh, great.

SPEAKER_03 (49:36):
Thank you for confirming that.
Confirming that.
Because he is on the TV seriesBig Love.
Oh, yeah.
Which was huge while it was onthe air.
And then I didn't realize thathe, I guess, was on also Agents
of Shield for a while.

SPEAKER_01 (49:49):
Oh, I don't think I knew that.
I didn't I never watched that.
There's just Me neither.
I uh There's too much.

SPEAKER_03 (49:53):
Too much.

SPEAKER_01 (49:54):
Apologies.
There's too much Marvel stuff.
Sorry.
Uh The Circle and then he was onan uh season of the Circle?

SPEAKER_03 (50:03):
That that film with I think Tom Hanks and Emma
Watts.

SPEAKER_01 (50:06):
Oh, I thought you meant on uh Netflix.

SPEAKER_03 (50:09):
That would oh my god, that would have been
amazing if he had been on acircle.
And then prior to his passing,he was on the TV series version
of Training Day.

SPEAKER_01 (50:19):
Okay.

SPEAKER_03 (50:20):
Okay, so we brought her up already, but Jeanette
Goldstein, Diamondback.
So she is presumably she's likekind of a couple with Jesse.
We know absolutely nothing abouthow they got together, or I
don't know.
It I couldn't get the senseeither when they were in the
bar.

SPEAKER_01 (50:38):
We don't know anything about any of them.

SPEAKER_03 (50:41):
Yeah, I in the bar, like look, they're brutal
killers.
That's how they all are, evenMay.
But I couldn't get a sense withthe waitress if she was like a
little bit jealous of the waythat Jesse was interacting with
her, or if like, nope, that'sjust how they kill.
They just I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 (51:00):
But impossible to say.

SPEAKER_03 (51:01):
And at the end, I mean it's so funny to me because
you know, they're in the car,her and Jesse, and they're
burning up, and she just grabshis hand and she's like, good
times, like, or we had goodtimes, or something like that.
And I'm like, boy, you guysreally succumbed to your fate
fairly quickly.
Like, I feel like you could havehad options here to even, even

(51:25):
just go under, like,respectively, go under your part
of the car.

SPEAKER_01 (51:30):
Just get a fucking blanket, man.

SPEAKER_03 (51:32):
Yeah, like you could have like cars nowadays aren't
so much like this, but Iremember older cars from the
80s.
You could you could climb underthem.
There was uh there's even in thewhile you're still inside the
car, you could go under likewhere your your feet would be.

SPEAKER_01 (51:45):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (51:46):
In the front of the car.
Okay.
Like you could hide from thesun.

SPEAKER_01 (51:50):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (51:51):
There were options as well.

SPEAKER_01 (51:52):
There's no reasoning with these vampires that
wouldn't ever call themselvesvampires.

SPEAKER_03 (51:57):
But she's she's fantastic.
I think that um largely she hasalso pivoted out of acting.
She has her own like set of, Ithink, lingerie stores.
Okay.
So she has that going on.
Aliens was her first credit.
I don't know if I actuallybrought that up when we did it.

SPEAKER_01 (52:16):
Insane because that's such a memorable, amazing
character.
I'm literally looking at theAliens Vasquez action figure
that I got that was just likeleft over in a box when I worked
at Fox.

SPEAKER_03 (52:28):
Yeah.
It's awesome.
I'm so glad we have it.
And that again, I'm just likekind of I can't wrap my mind
around the fact that she hadthat kind of outstanding
performance and that it didn'tquite translate into a bigger
career.
She's fantastic.
Yeah.
She is fantastic in that movie.

SPEAKER_01 (52:51):
She's in more movies than I think the average movie
watcher even realizes.
Unless you like look at herfilmography.
She's in more stuff, but she'ssuch a chameleon.

SPEAKER_03 (53:01):
It's yeah, and it's also very small roles.
Like I I don't know.
She's so she's in Lethal Weapon2.
She is the foster mom andTerminator 2, Judgment Day.
She reteams with Cameron a lot.
Uh, she's in the film, anotherinfamous film, Fair Game.
She is one of the steering,would you say, is it called

(53:23):
steering passage in Titanic?
She's reading a story to herkids, like she basically knows
that they're all gonna die.

SPEAKER_02 (53:29):
Oh.

SPEAKER_03 (53:30):
Oh, yeah.
Because they're trapped.
Yeah.
And so she starts reading ortelling a story to her kids to
help them go to sleep, to kindof soothe them.
It's it's very sad.
It's a very sad moment in thefilm.

SPEAKER_01 (53:42):
I have bad news for you.
That movie is a little bit of atragedy.

SPEAKER_03 (53:49):
She's in Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas, living
out loud, cockstoppers.
And she has done like a handfulof TV appearances.

SPEAKER_01 (53:57):
I don't know how like what her role was.
I know that she was in thePresidio with um Mark Harmon and
um Oh my goodness.
Sean Connery.
I think Meg Ryan's in that too.
And but that is an 80s film, soI think maybe one day we'll
we'll cover that.
It was a good movie.
Okay.
I saw it in the theater.

SPEAKER_03 (54:18):
All right, moving on to Homer.
So it's an interestingcharacter.
I mean, it's very like very muchlike Kirsten Dunn's character in
the interview with the vampire,where he got turned as a kid.

SPEAKER_01 (54:33):
Although this would have preceded all that.
It did.
So it's more like um someonejust stole a bunch of ideas from
Near Dark.

SPEAKER_03 (54:41):
Well, the interview with the vampire was a book.

SPEAKER_01 (54:43):
When was it written, though?

SPEAKER_03 (54:44):
I don't know.
So I don't know if preceded thisfilm.
But it's the same concept, isall I'm trying to say.
Is that it's a kid vampire,which that's another thing about
vampire lore, is that there'skind of this like uh I don't
know, unspoken rule, you don'tturn kids.
Yeah, I guess I've just seenthat in a number of stories at

(55:06):
this point.

SPEAKER_01 (55:06):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (55:07):
You don't turn children.
So, but he is, but he's seenhe's like an older kid.

SPEAKER_01 (55:13):
Whoever the actor is that got to play that probably
had a blast because he's likedrinking and smoking throughout
the whole movie.

SPEAKER_03 (55:20):
And and you know, I don't know like how old he
really was when he was filming,but played by Joshua John Miller
and not a huge filmography,although he has done some work
fairly recently.
So he is, I think, one of um uhoh my gosh, what's his name?
In Halloween 3 season of TheWitch, which we will be

(55:42):
covering.
Spoiler.

SPEAKER_01 (55:44):
My favorite Halloween movie.

SPEAKER_03 (55:47):
Well, we will be doing it for this Halloween
series.
He is one of the kids, so he'snot the kid.
He is not the kid that like hasthat grotesque uh death.
He's not that kid, he's just oneof the main guys' kids.

SPEAKER_02 (56:02):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (56:03):
So he's Okay, that's good.
Yeah, he's in that.
He's in River's Edge.
And as I was mentioning, uh justlast year he was in a film
called The Exorcism, and he'sdone some TV appearances, but
you know, not not an extensivefilmography.

SPEAKER_01 (56:17):
Breaking news.
It appears the interview with avampire novel was written in the
uh 70s.
Okay.
So there you go.

SPEAKER_03 (56:23):
I thought it maybe was, but all right.
These last two, um, I almostkind of debated, but I I was
like, okay, fine.
The dad.
Uh Caleb's dad.
Loy.
Loy.
Loy.
Loy Colton.
So played by Tim Thomerson.
So presumably his name is ThomasThomerson.

(56:45):
I think it's awful when parentsdo that to their kids, but it's
not a tragedy.
No, it's not a tragedy, but it'slike a tragedy before we coined
tragedy for other types ofnames.
Yeah.
It was the original tragedy.
He is still working because getthis.

SPEAKER_01 (57:01):
That's wild.
Is he 105 years old?

SPEAKER_03 (57:04):
No.
Here is the thing.
Was he 25 in that movie?
Okay, so I brought this up withTeen Wolf 2 and the vice
principal and how old he looked.
Yes.
So when this film came out, thisactor was 41.
Okay.
He looks like he's about 61.
I don't know if he had the SteveMartin thing going on or his
hair turned gray early.
Maybe.

(57:24):
Or what, but I'm like, that guywas only 41.
41.
And he plays this like grizzleddad.

SPEAKER_01 (57:31):
Yeah, he looked like he was.
He it felt like the role was himsupposed to be like 60.
But then but then Colton'ssister was like very young.

SPEAKER_03 (57:42):
Well, he could have had a younger wife.

SPEAKER_01 (57:44):
He could have had a wife.

SPEAKER_03 (57:45):
He could have had a wife.

SPEAKER_01 (57:46):
He didn't there's there's no mom.
There's no mom.

SPEAKER_03 (57:49):
Yeah.
But anyway, he is still verymuch working.
He also has like over 200credits.
Nice.
He's been very busy.

SPEAKER_01 (57:56):
And actually, I recognize him, but I'm just not
sure from what.

SPEAKER_03 (58:00):
Oh, well, I'll bring up some stuff.
I mean, what's so he has a mixof TV and film.
What's interesting about him isthat often, and this is not to
be disparaging, but a lot oftime when you see a filmography,
you might see an actor who'sbeen on a ton of TV shows, but
often for like one episode,maybe two episodes.
What makes his career reallyinteresting, he's he's actually

(58:22):
had a lot of extended stints ona pretty substantial number of
TV shows.
So that that got my attentionthat he's had that.
And all these shows uh are acase of that.
Starting with all that glitters.
I don't I don't necessarily knowthese shows, but he was on them
for a bit.
Quark, The Associates, The Twoof Us.

(58:46):
So a couple films.
I love this title.
Jekyll and Hyde, dot dot dot,together again.
He was in Rhinestone.
Okay.
With Dolly Parton and SylvesterStallone.
He's in Volunteers, which wecould do.
We should do.
No?
You don't like that movie?
Okay.
Iron Eagle.
He was on the TV version of Downand Out in Beverly Hills.

(59:08):
A couple more films, Who's HarryCrumb, Air America, and more TV
series, Sirens, Land's End.
He had his time on soap opera,day, daytime TV, Days of Our
Lives.
He also just this year, a filmcame out with him called The
Butterfly Guard.
And just beyond everything Imentioned, he does also have

(59:30):
like a ton of one-offs andtwo-offs on TV.

SPEAKER_01 (59:33):
Yeah.

unknown (59:33):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (59:34):
So Marcy Leeds is the daughter.
I already brought her up, SarahColton.
She's a fun little badass.
Um really is.
I think in like when she firstsees Caleb, after he's been
missing for a few days, what didshe say?
She's like, I should just punchyou or something like that.

SPEAKER_01 (59:50):
She says exactly that.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (59:52):
So she's a little Spitfire.
But she, yeah, she packs a punchfor the amount of time she's on
screen.
She definitely has just.
Just I think once she she had alot of other roles when she was
a kid and hasn't been inanything since.
But she did play like a youngerversion of one of the two leads
in Beaches.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, she was on the TV seriesThe Beauty and the Beast for a

(01:00:14):
little bit.
The one with um Linda Hamilton.

SPEAKER_01 (01:00:17):
Yes.
And oh my goodness.
He was in Alien Resurrection.
Ron Pearlman.
There you go.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (01:00:25):
Yep.
And then I think it's this isher last credit.
She was on a TV miniseriescalled Vendetta Colin Secrets of
a Mafia Bride.

SPEAKER_01 (01:00:33):
Wow.

SPEAKER_03 (01:00:34):
Yeah.
Film Synopsis.

SPEAKER_01 (01:00:37):
For near dark?
Cracked.
Okay.

SPEAKER_03 (01:00:40):
A small town farmer's son reluctantly joins a
traveling group of vampiresafter he is bitten by a
beautiful drifter.

SPEAKER_01 (01:00:49):
Well, that kind of makes it sound like they're like
a traveling band or something.
Like we're just a travelinggroup of vampires.

SPEAKER_03 (01:00:57):
I mean, I guess on the nose, that is correct.

SPEAKER_01 (01:01:00):
He doesn't reluctantly join it.

SPEAKER_03 (01:01:01):
He just doesn't really know what the fuck's
going on at first.
And and so he's kind of hangingwith them because he doesn't
really know what's happening.
He does try to get away.

SPEAKER_01 (01:01:11):
Well, look.
But when it's a movie thatdoesn't really tell me a whole
lot of what's going on, I'm notgoing to lean on the synopsis to
give me any more informationbecause there's just nothing to
pull.

SPEAKER_03 (01:01:21):
Yeah, I mean, it this kind of circles me back to
some of my original comments,and that I just wish I
understood the world a littlebit better.
I mean, the filmmaker is iscompletely free to make the film
that he or she wants.

SPEAKER_02 (01:01:33):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (01:01:34):
But as a viewer, I would have liked to have
understood like kind of therules of the world a little bit
better.
Because that was another thingtoo, is that part of the reason
why he could not get away fromthem is because he was getting
progressively more and moresick.
And part of that world that Iwish I could have understood
better, because maybe part of itis the lens through which I'm

(01:01:54):
watching this, because I'mseeing other versions of Vampire
Worlds that I have like ingestedthrough other films and
television.

SPEAKER_02 (01:02:00):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (01:02:01):
Where they can, yes, they will weaken, but they don't
get like so violently sick.
There were so quickly.

SPEAKER_01 (01:02:09):
A lot of scenes involving him like uh vomiting
or with just like goop on hisface.

SPEAKER_03 (01:02:15):
Oh my god, the goop was disgusting.
Like I was slobber?
Yeah, I couldn't spit up orsomething.
Couldn't really figure out whatit was, but it was gross.
And it was a very quickturnaround even after feeding to
when he was like getting reallysick.

(01:02:37):
And so I was like, okay, so areyou essentially saying that like
every single night you have tofeed?
Otherwise, you're gonna end upthat way.
Like it I I guess I've neverseen a vampire world set up that
way where they have to sofrequently feed to establish or
to maintain kind of theirequilibrium.

SPEAKER_01 (01:02:59):
I wish that um there was an answer to that specific
question, but there are so manyother questions that I also did
not get answers to.

SPEAKER_03 (01:03:08):
Yeah.
There's a lot of questions withthis film.

SPEAKER_01 (01:03:10):
But I asked those questions because I thought the
cast, like it's an amazing cast.
They did like a relatively goodjob with the with the effects
for it being like an older 80svampire movie.
So there was definitely likesomething there, but I just wish
that they had like fleshed outsome more of like the lore and

(01:03:32):
the story.

SPEAKER_03 (01:03:33):
It was you know I would have loved to have known
more about the backstories ofall the vampires.
Uh I and I I think those are mytwo things.
Just give me a quick flashbackor something.
Yeah, I think those are my twobig things.
Interesting um editingtechniques.
We forgot to bring that upbetween it's like very Star
Wars-esque.

SPEAKER_01 (01:03:53):
Yes, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (01:03:54):
Uh, so that was that was kind of fun.
But yeah, I think my two biggesthangups on the movie is like
really wanting to know moreabout the characters, not the
human characters, but thevampire characters, and then
also really wanting more of asetup of the world.
Because you make a excellentpoint too.

(01:04:14):
It's like, why are they socaught off guard every time when
they're outside?
And like the way that they're socasual, just like spray
painting.
I'm like at this point,especially Jesse, you have been
a vampire for over a hundredyears.
Yeah, you should have this onlockdown in terms of like
protecting yourself everyfucking day.
Yeah.
So, like, why are you guys sohaphazard about it?

(01:04:36):
Like, it seemed I just didn'tget it.

SPEAKER_01 (01:04:38):
Why I mean, yeah.
Why why why are they in such anunpopulated part of the country
instead of with like no housinganywhere for them?
Go blend into a city where likehonestly people aren't gonna
know like if people disappear?
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
So they made a lot of poordecisions and they suffered the
consequences.

SPEAKER_03 (01:04:59):
Yeah, they just like weren't very organized vampires.

SPEAKER_01 (01:05:04):
Disorganized vampires.

SPEAKER_03 (01:05:05):
Disorganized vampires.
That's a good title for a film.
So watching the film again, Imean I don't know if I need to
anytime soon.
Although I always enjoy watchingfilms that that add another
layer to lore.

SPEAKER_01 (01:05:21):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (01:05:22):
Even if it's different and maybe something I
don't agree with or understand,it's always really interesting
to just see another person'stake on that lore.
So for that, but I don't know.
I feel like I got a lot out ofthe it's a very short film.
Maybe when I can more easilywatch it.

SPEAKER_01 (01:05:39):
If I if it just ever happened to be on, sure.
If I have to go through uhseveral steps, set sail, um, you
know.

SPEAKER_03 (01:05:49):
We'll leave it at that.

SPEAKER_01 (01:05:50):
We'll leave it at that.
Then uh sometimes like I don't Idon't know why.
I mean it's it's always it'snever a good sign.
It's never a good sign when youjust uh there should be no
difficulty getting any filmnowadays.
When you hit the little buttonon your remote to activate that
little person in your Apple TV,and they have no there's like

(01:06:13):
nothing.
Like I've never heard of thatmovie, and it's like, uh oh,
that's not it's not a good sign.

SPEAKER_03 (01:06:17):
In this day and age, for all the things that I could
complain about, if we're gonnahave things like streaming
services and on-demand viewing,then every single fucking movie
should be made available to thepublic.

SPEAKER_01 (01:06:28):
It should always be somewhere.

SPEAKER_03 (01:06:29):
Yeah, like it should always be somewhere.

SPEAKER_01 (01:06:31):
If it's on some other platform, that's fine.
Like there's all the all thepaid for ones, and there's like
ad-supported.

SPEAKER_03 (01:06:38):
I'm just saying it should be available somewhere.

SPEAKER_01 (01:06:40):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (01:06:41):
So anyway.

SPEAKER_01 (01:06:42):
There's something else.
Buckaroo Bonze was hard to find,wasn't it?

SPEAKER_03 (01:06:46):
That's like five years ago.
I don't remember.
Call to action.
I guess with everything we'vetalked about, I just would be
really curious about otherpeople's opinions as far as the
lore and like, did you not needto know the background on these
people?
Like, was this a complete enoughfilm for you as is?

SPEAKER_01 (01:07:08):
My call to action is if it was possible to have
contacted Jesse and Jesse andthe gang, I'll call them, and
let them know hey, we have analmost immediate overnight cure
for your condition.
Oh, that's do you think theywould take it?
No.
I don't think they would either.

SPEAKER_03 (01:07:27):
We didn't even bring that up.

SPEAKER_01 (01:07:29):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (01:07:30):
That apparently the only thing.

SPEAKER_01 (01:07:31):
I mentioned that there was the there was the
fastest cure to vampirism ever,but yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (01:07:35):
The only thing that you need to do to cure your
vampirism is have a bloodtransfusion.

SPEAKER_01 (01:07:39):
Just a uh we have no idea how much because it's not
like they were draining the oneperson for the So like they
didn't even have to like fiddlearound with that.
It was like whatever.
Yeah, if you just have like inthis dirty shed, get this Oh my
god, that's rough.

SPEAKER_03 (01:07:53):
That close-up of the dirty nails.

SPEAKER_01 (01:07:55):
Get this much blood out, get this much new blood in.
Don't worry about blood type,it's fine.

SPEAKER_03 (01:08:00):
Yeah, it was it was real reckless.

SPEAKER_01 (01:08:04):
Did anyone test May to find out what her blood
because between the the dad andthe kid, I'm like, okay.

SPEAKER_03 (01:08:09):
Sure.
I mean, I don't know even whatyou would say her air quotes
blood would be.

SPEAKER_01 (01:08:15):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (01:08:16):
I I don't know how that works because she's like
already I mean, I don't anyway.

SPEAKER_01 (01:08:19):
And that is my call to action.

SPEAKER_03 (01:08:21):
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SPEAKER_02 (01:08:35):
Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_03 (01:08:36):
Okay.
So we knocked out the first filmof this year's Halloween series.
We did it.
Next up is a Derek pick.
Oh.
But not to say that you don'thave, you know, agency in what
we pick overall, but you veryspecifically wanted to cover
this one.

SPEAKER_01 (01:08:53):
This is one that like I don't know how it came up
in conversation with some of ourfriends, like maybe a year ago,
and I'm like, oh, we shoulddefinitely cover that.
But we've been kind of likewaiting, holding on to it.

SPEAKER_03 (01:09:04):
I hope that we're talking about the same movie.

SPEAKER_01 (01:09:06):
Yeah, me too.
I didn't actually talk to youabout this beforehand.
But well, look, the movie thatI'm thinking of is uh Dreamscape
with Dennis Quaid.

SPEAKER_03 (01:09:18):
Yes, yes, that's it.
Yeah, and I have never seen thismovie.
And Max Von Saddow, I think, isin it.
Yes, there's a couple big timepeople.
And it is, I was reading aboutit, so I'm really curious about
like the snake scenes.

SPEAKER_01 (01:09:31):
Yeah, the fucking the snake when uh I'm sure the
the effects are incrediblydated, but when I first saw that
and the guy like morphs into alike a snake in the dream to
attack Dennis Quaid's character,it was scary as shit.
It was it was intense, but youknow, effects have come a long
way.
I don't think it's gonna packthe same punch.

SPEAKER_03 (01:09:53):
Okay.

SPEAKER_01 (01:09:53):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (01:09:54):
Well, that is next up on tap.
And in the meantime, just thankyou to everybody for taking the
time to listen to our podcast.
We know you have a lot ofchoices.
So thank you so much forchoosing us, and we will talk to
you again in two weeks' time.
Bye.