Strange Brew

In this episode, Anna and Derek discuss the plot's necessary (?) riff off Hamlet, the purpose of Brewmeister Smith's enormous chompers, and much more during their chat of the hoser-rific Canadian comedy Strange Brew (1983).

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Episode Transcript

SPEAKER_04 (00:00):
I have to go along with this.

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But don't worry, you won't gethurt.
Your equipment should protectyou.

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Being on the same team as you is all the padding I
need, Rosie.
Are you okay?
You okay, Rosie?
I'm your father, Luke.
Give in to the dark side of theforce, you knob.
He saw Jedi

SPEAKER_00 (00:25):
17 times,

SPEAKER_05 (00:27):
eh?

SPEAKER_00 (00:27):
Hello and welcome to 80s Movie Montage, eh?
This is Derek.

SPEAKER_01 (00:31):
And this is Anna.

SPEAKER_00 (00:32):
And that was Rick Moranis, Dave Thomas, and Angus
McInnes from 1983's StrangeBrew.

SPEAKER_03 (00:40):
What a fucking Canadian fever dream of a movie.
It

SPEAKER_00 (00:46):
was way more insane than I remember it when I saw it
as a kid.
And I wonder, like, should Ihave seen it as a kid?
I don't know, probably, maybe.

SPEAKER_03 (00:54):
Yeah, I was saying that, uh...
Off the record...
I don't know why this is a movieI saw so much as a kid, but it
was a movie that I saw quite abit, although it has been a very
long time since I've watched itagain.
So as we were watching it, thesedifferent core memories were
coming up, especially Imentioned the hockey game.

(01:17):
And then when Rick Moranis'character blows up, that is like
for whatever reason, just like avery clear, prominent image in
my mind from when I was a kid.

SPEAKER_00 (01:28):
I remember the hockey stuff so well that I
forgot there's a whole rest ofthe movie.

SPEAKER_03 (01:35):
Well, you remembered the flying dog.

SPEAKER_00 (01:37):
I remember the flying dog, although I was
confused because they did kindof like a similar gag in Half
Baked.

SPEAKER_03 (01:43):
That's right.
You did mention that.
So, yeah, I mean, it's...
I feel like this is unlike anyother movie we're probably going
to cover,

SPEAKER_00 (01:52):
at

SPEAKER_03 (01:52):
least up

SPEAKER_00 (01:53):
to this point.
It's almost difficult for me toarticulate how bizarre this
movie is.
And then you mentioned at theend of our last episode that it
was, in fact, loosely based onHamlet.

SPEAKER_03 (02:06):
I don't know why.
I did a brief kind of overviewof how the story came together.
I don't know why Moranis andThomas...
wanted it to have like a Hamletparallel.
I don't know if they justthought that that would be
funny.
I guess it kind of is becauseit's such a ridiculous film to

(02:26):
have any ties to Shakespeare iskind of bizarre.

SPEAKER_00 (02:29):
It's it's interesting because it's
probably as confusing to me astrying to think of actual
Shakespeare.
Yeah, it works there.
I

SPEAKER_03 (02:37):
mean, you know, some things are you I mean, you were
saying in terms of like the nameof the beer company.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (02:44):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (02:45):
Which is?

SPEAKER_00 (02:45):
Elsinore.

SPEAKER_03 (02:47):
And the name of the castle in Hamlet is?

SPEAKER_00 (02:49):
Elsinore.

SPEAKER_03 (02:50):
There you go.
Yeah.
And just things like they pulledsome names almost directly, like
the mother is Gertrude in bothstories.
The uncle is like Claudius inHamlet and Claude in this movie.
I think they tried as best asthey could to come up with the
female version of Hamlet becausePamela shares a lot of the same

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letters.

SPEAKER_00 (03:12):
You got the A and the M.
The L.
The L.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You're almost there.
And

SPEAKER_03 (03:17):
the A.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
So I think they did the bestthey probably could with finding
a female name that very– like avery loose connection, but a
connection nevertheless to thename Hamlet.
Yeah.
But I don't know if I– neededthere to be a connection because

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it is such a crazy movie.
Yeah.
I

SPEAKER_00 (03:43):
mean, that seemed to be the starting point and then
everything just gets reallywild.

SPEAKER_03 (03:49):
Well, so let's put a pin in that because there was a
starting point before thestarting point that is
completely disconnected from therest of the story.
Yeah, there is.
And so, well, I want to makesure we talk about that, but
let's dive in.
So I think you mentioned 1983.
Mm-hmm.
And we're going to have a lot ofrepetition with some of the main

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players because this is verymuch the baby of Rick Moranis
and Dave Thomas.
So the two of them, I guessoriginally this came from, I
want to say like a spoken albumthat they did.

SPEAKER_00 (04:28):
Yeah.
They're Canadian.
They're

SPEAKER_03 (04:30):
actually Canadian.

SPEAKER_00 (04:31):
And that's referenced in the very
beginning.

SPEAKER_03 (04:34):
Yes.
Yeah.
That section of the film.
Yeah.
I guess the album was called TheGreat White North.
It was fairly popular.
Then, as a lot of Canadiancomedians do, they were part of
the SCTV world.
So SCTV brought those charactersin for like a– Oh, really?

SPEAKER_00 (04:59):
I don't think I realized that it went from those
two having this, like, comedyalbum, basically, and then that
got them in

SPEAKER_03 (05:08):
those

SPEAKER_00 (05:09):
characters on the

SPEAKER_03 (05:10):
show.
Okay.

SPEAKER_00 (05:12):
Okay.

SPEAKER_03 (05:13):
And in any case, they were basically like, oh,
maybe we can do a movie aboutthese characters.
And I think there were like somelegal hoops in terms of like who
owned the rights to thosecharacters.
But in any case, they got it offthe ground.
They are two of the threecredited writers.
I'll start with the guy that isnot Rick Moranis or Dave Thomas.

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His name is Steve DeJarnat.

SPEAKER_00 (05:39):
DeJarnat.

SPEAKER_03 (05:40):
I think that's probably more accurate.

SPEAKER_00 (05:42):
Probably somewhere in between.

SPEAKER_03 (05:43):
And I don't know if they brought him on because
maybe they just thought thatlike he was maybe a more...
They're comedians.
They're also writers, of course,but maybe he was like a more
proficient screenwriter.

SPEAKER_01 (05:55):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (05:56):
As far as like his filmography goes, though, it's
not super extensive and it's alot of television, actually.
So a lot of like single episodesof different...
Okay.
Oh.
Yeah.

(06:29):
As far as their credits go,there is a lot of overlap
because they both did come outof SCTV.
So they both have credits forthat TV series.
There was like multipleiterations of SCTV.
So they both have credits forSCTV Network.
Thomas, not Moranis, but Thomashas a credit for SCTV Channel.

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And then they depart a littlebit, although they come back
because they basically sharecredit for these characters.
Moranis, there was, I guess, aTV series called Bob and Doug.
I think it was like animated.

SPEAKER_00 (07:04):
Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_03 (07:06):
Yeah.
So they both share credits forthat.
But Dave Thomas is, you know,Rick Moranis, we'll...
We'll go into his story once weget to the acting credits.
I'll do that.
But he is more so known as anactor than a writer.

SPEAKER_00 (07:22):
There is one story that he has a credit for that we
will almost certainly cover atsome point.

SPEAKER_03 (07:29):
Oh, the uncredited credit?
Because he does have anuncredited credit for
Ghostbusters.

SPEAKER_00 (07:34):
And he also just has a story credit for Spies Like
Us.

SPEAKER_03 (07:39):
Oh, okay.
So...
Wait, we're talking aboutMoranis?

SPEAKER_00 (07:42):
Nope, I messed up again.
I'm talking about Dave Thomas.

SPEAKER_03 (07:44):
Oh, no, I just probably misunderstood you.
So Rick Moranis has theuncredited credit for
Ghostbusters.
That's as far as I know, likemost of his writing credits.
But you're absolutely right.
Thomas does have a story bycredit for Spies Like Us.
And he is just the more, Ithink, proficient writer.
Uh, I personally, have you, Ihaven't really seen him in front

(08:04):
of the camera

SPEAKER_00 (08:05):
for a while.
I was thinking that while wewere watching the movie, I'm
like, oh, I wonder what he, whathe's been doing.

SPEAKER_03 (08:12):
Maybe he's like made appearances on stuff, but for
the most part, I don't know.
Maybe I'm speaking out of turn.
We will get to his actingcredits, but he has, uh, other
writing credits, a TV moviecalled Ghost Mom.

SPEAKER_00 (08:24):
Oh, are we talking about Miranda still?

SPEAKER_03 (08:28):
Thomas.
I'm done with Moranis.
Moranis is done as far aswriting credits go.
So this is all Dave Thomas.
And then it seems like he hasdone maybe a little bit more
with the Bob and Doug property.
He has a credit for a TV moviecalled Bob and Doug McKenzie's
2-4 Anniversary.

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I already mentioned Bob andDoug.
And then This is superinteresting to me.
He has writing credits for theTV show Bones and the TV show
The Blacklist.

SPEAKER_00 (09:02):
That's so weird.
I mean, well, it's not...
Look, it's range, I suppose.
Sure,

SPEAKER_03 (09:07):
yeah.
I just was like, huh, okay.
All right.
I mean...
I never watched The Blacklist.
I did for a period of time watchBones.
There is a fair amount of comedyin Bones.
I shouldn't say that he wouldonly be proficient at comedy.
But it's interesting that likeisn't The Blacklist like it was–
that was the James Spader showand

SPEAKER_00 (09:30):
it was like– He was like a darker Bobby California.
Oh, OK.
That's it.
I think.
I don't know.
I

SPEAKER_03 (09:36):
didn't watch the show.
But in any case.
So– The other thing that'sreally interesting, this was
co-directed by Rick Moranis andDave Thomas.

SPEAKER_00 (09:48):
Okay.
Makes sense.
Might explain.
I

SPEAKER_03 (09:51):
think it's like the proof is in the pudding.
They're great performers.
They're great comedians.
I don't know directing.
I think they should have broughtin an outside person, but I know
that it was their characters.
I think they improv'd a ton.
Oh,

SPEAKER_00 (10:06):
they did.
It felt like...
It felt like it wasn't just themimprov-ing, but it felt like
some scenes were just allowed tolike, no, just keep on going.
Just keep on, like when thenurses and the hospital started
like fighting with each otherand you're like, what's
happening?

SPEAKER_03 (10:20):
It had a little bit of an airplane vibe.

SPEAKER_00 (10:23):
Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (10:25):
Because it was just like total randomness.

SPEAKER_00 (10:28):
Which is fun, but I think I mentioned like halfway
through the film, I'm like, I'mkind of exhausted.

SPEAKER_03 (10:34):
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think Airplane did a muchbetter job of like, yes, there's
technically speaking a storythat we're following, but it's
just a bunch of bits.

SPEAKER_00 (10:44):
Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (10:45):
And this film, I think also, it's like they just
didn't, I think, strike as goodof a balance as Airplane did,
where it's like each scene iskind of a bit, but it's also
kind of like, it's like they'retrying to do two things at once
and it doesn't,

SPEAKER_00 (11:00):
Yeah, no, and there's, like, such a change in
tone from one scene to the nextwhere even if it is intended
just to be going, like, bit tobit, it just– it wasn't as,
like, cohesive as what you getin Airplane.

SPEAKER_03 (11:14):
But I was saying also, like, for one, I'm really
not bashing the movie becauseit's kind of just a wild ride.
You just kind of have to leaninto it and

SPEAKER_00 (11:22):
–

SPEAKER_03 (11:23):
Go for it.

SPEAKER_00 (11:24):
So

SPEAKER_03 (11:26):
again, for whatever reason, I must have like really
had a liking for it as a kidbecause I watched it a ton.
Like

SPEAKER_00 (11:31):
bashing it is definitely not what I'm doing.
Yeah.
In fact, I think bashing itwould be pointless.

SPEAKER_03 (11:37):
Yes.

SPEAKER_00 (11:38):
Because this is a movie that definitely does not
care.

SPEAKER_03 (11:41):
Does not take itself seriously.

SPEAKER_00 (11:42):
Exactly.
At all.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (11:44):
And I think also maybe, just maybe, there is
something...
that we probably are not part ofculturally.
Like, I think it is a reallyfunny movie.
I think there's enough we pickup on.
But from what I've read, thesecharacters were intentionally
created to combine all of themost, like, ridiculous

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stereotypes about Canadians.
So that was the reason why thesecharacters were created.
I

SPEAKER_00 (12:10):
mean, I had some cousins that lived in the Upper
Peninsula of Michigan, so theywere basically Canadian.

SPEAKER_03 (12:15):
Yeah, I mean, I'm...
I'm from the Midwest.
Yeah.
And I feel like, I don't know, Ithink maybe proximity does help
you maybe a little bitunderstand the stereotypes a
little bit better.

SPEAKER_00 (12:30):
I think that's one of the reasons why my dad enjoys
this movie so much is because hethought of Bob and Doug very
much the same way he thoughtabout those relatives that lived
up in the peninsula, in theOopers.

SPEAKER_03 (12:44):
This is kind of a ridiculous thing to say.
It really is.
But the fact that you and I bothenjoy hockey, watching hockey,
hockey is traditionally known asa Canadian sport.
I feel like we have...
in a very roundabout way exposedourselves to other types of

(13:06):
Canadian whatever.
Sure.
I don't know.
There's a familiarity about it,yet at the same time, we're not
Canadian.
So probably some things wentover our head even now.

SPEAKER_00 (13:20):
I mean, the hockey scenes...
Went over my head because Iwasn't sure what game they were
playing, even though they allhad on hockey gear.
But they had the weirdest hockeygear that

SPEAKER_03 (13:28):
you will ever

SPEAKER_00 (13:29):
see.
Yeah,

SPEAKER_03 (13:30):
yeah.
Okay, so getting back to thefact that Rick Moranis and Dave
Thomas directed this, this isRick Moranis' only directing
credit.

SPEAKER_01 (13:40):
Okay.

SPEAKER_03 (13:42):
Dave Thomas, he has in total 18 different directing
credits.
This was his first, but of theones that are probably the most
notable outside of this film...
a movie called The Experts.
Don't know it.
He did actually direct that TVmovie, Ghost Mom.
And also, this is kind of fun.
He has directed on that TVseries that was like, was it

(14:04):
like Stop Motion, CelebrityDeathmatch?

SPEAKER_00 (14:06):
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's fun.

SPEAKER_03 (14:09):
He directed some of those.

SPEAKER_00 (14:10):
It was like Stop Animation.
I don't know if it wasClaymation or just Stop
Animation.
Something like that, though.

SPEAKER_03 (14:15):
So moving on to cinematography, Steve Poster
is...
And interesting filmography.
I mean, you mentioned the termrange a minute ago, and I would
say that definitely applies tohim.
I have mostly films, but– sowe're going to start in the 80s.

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So I don't know why this– Idon't know.
I don't know if we're ever goingto cover this movie.
He shot the film Spring Break.
It's come up a

SPEAKER_01 (14:45):
couple of

SPEAKER_03 (14:45):
times, just in passing of other people being
connected to it.
But he shot The Heavenly Kid,Big Top Peewee.
He did that.

SPEAKER_00 (14:54):
The sequel, Peewee sequel?

SPEAKER_03 (14:55):
I think so,

SPEAKER_00 (14:56):
yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (14:56):
So here's what's, to me, super notable, because I do
remember this being a huge dealwhen it happened.
Madonna's Like a Prayer musicvideo.

SPEAKER_00 (15:07):
That video...
drove people insane.
I

SPEAKER_03 (15:12):
mean, now it's like, oh, how wholesome in comparison
to...
I mean, maybe

SPEAKER_00 (15:17):
like 10, 15 years ago, we would have considered.
I feel like at this point, it'sgone right back around to
triggering a lot of people in2025.

SPEAKER_03 (15:25):
Yeah, I can understand.

SPEAKER_00 (15:27):
But definitely understand what you mean.
At the time, it was likeMadonna.
It was a

SPEAKER_01 (15:31):
huge

SPEAKER_00 (15:32):
deal.
Madonna is literally theantichrist.
Huge deal, yeah.
Yeah, she is responsible for allof the bad things.

SPEAKER_03 (15:39):
And he shot it.
He shot that music video, whichhonestly, probably for the time
was a ballsy move.

SPEAKER_01 (15:45):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (15:46):
I wonder how many people maybe turned down that
opportunity because of what wasprobably expected to be a lot of
pushback.
So he did that.
I have some more movies for him.
Next of Kin.

SPEAKER_00 (15:59):
Next of Kin.
Opportunity

SPEAKER_03 (16:01):
Knocks.
So really all over the place asfar as genre.
He shot Rocky V.
Okay.
So he did that.
I guess, you know, I neverwatched this TV series.
I know it has, like, really good– People speak well of it.
I didn't realize that the showRoswell, I think, was first
based off of a TV movie.

SPEAKER_00 (16:23):
Oh, I don't think I realized it either.
Is it like an Aliens thing?
Yes.
Okay.

SPEAKER_03 (16:27):
It's like, what is it, Area?

SPEAKER_00 (16:29):
Aliens.
I'm doing the hands thing forpeople that can't see, which is
everyone.
Is

SPEAKER_03 (16:33):
it Area 451?
What is it?
I think

SPEAKER_00 (16:36):
it's just Area 50.
I

SPEAKER_03 (16:38):
increased it.

SPEAKER_00 (16:39):
451?
I don't know why

SPEAKER_03 (16:41):
that came to

SPEAKER_00 (16:41):
mind.
Is that like the Fahrenheitthing?

SPEAKER_03 (16:43):
That's what I'm thinking.
Yep, that's exactly what I'mthinking.
Okay, so he did that.
He did very, I know this filmwas like very acclaimed for
different reasons.
He shot Donnie Darko.

SPEAKER_00 (16:54):
Man, that movie is, yeah, it is wild, but I just
love the intro and the introecho in the Bunnymen song is
amazing.
Anyways, the rest of the movieis good too.
Love that intro.

SPEAKER_03 (17:08):
He also shot Amityville.
colon, The Awakening.

SPEAKER_00 (17:11):
Oh.

SPEAKER_03 (17:12):
Yeah, not the one that our friend is in.
And Scared to Death.
Okay.
So, okay, moving on to music,Gentleman by the Name of Charles
Fox.
What an interesting career thisguy had.
So, yeah, I mean, I do have somefilms, but most– and even he's

(17:35):
an Oscar-nominated– composer,but a lot of really iconic TV
shows he was a part of.
So here's the thing.
He has a credit for The TonightShow starring Johnny Carson.

SPEAKER_01 (17:50):
Okay.

SPEAKER_03 (17:51):
However, they make a point of noting that his
contribution to that show wasbackground music.
So I don't think he was thecomposer for that iconic...

SPEAKER_00 (18:00):
The theme.
Yes, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (18:03):
Yeah, that's great.

SPEAKER_00 (18:04):
Good job.

SPEAKER_03 (18:05):
So I don't think that was what he was part of,
but he did work on that show.
Really interesting film.
He was part of Barbarella, so hecomposed for that.
I've brought this up before.
He composed for the film versionof A Separate Piece.
I think you've told me youdidn't have to read that in
school.
I had to read that in school.

SPEAKER_00 (18:24):
It's a brutal book.
I did not.
What's it about?

SPEAKER_03 (18:28):
So it's interesting because, like, there's a lot of
books that– I mean, I guessthat's what makes them
compelling, where yourprotagonist, the person that you
are kind of forced to followalong because it's their POV,
they're not really the bestpeople.
It's kind of what this book isabout.
So it's about these, like,boarding school kids.

(18:48):
Okay.
And the person that we'refollowing is– you know, kind of
like a nerd, kind of a quietguy.
He rooms with somebody who'sincredibly popular, very
charismatic, and he kind of likeresents him for that.
And I'm a little fuzzy on thedetails because I literally
haven't read this book indecades, but basically the

(19:10):
popular kid, I think the firsttime he gets hurt, I think it's
an accident, but it And being apopular kid, he also was like
kind of a jock.
And so that kind of killed anyaspirations of being a
professional athlete in someway.
He

SPEAKER_00 (19:29):
probably wasn't going to make it anyways.

SPEAKER_03 (19:30):
Maybe.
But it also made him morevulnerable physically.
Like it was a really bad– it waslike a leg break or something
like that.
Then– He is in some circumstancewhere like the nerdy quiet kid,
I think, had the opportunity.
He was like in a tree orsomething.
He had the opportunity to savehim.
He didn't take that opportunity.

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So the popular kid like fellagain and died.

SPEAKER_00 (19:55):
What book is this again?

SPEAKER_03 (19:57):
Summer in Peace.

SPEAKER_00 (19:59):
Okay.
I'll be sure to write that down.
I

SPEAKER_03 (20:02):
remember being like, what the fuck am I reading?
It's an acclaimed book.
Obviously, I didn't take to it.
And there's probably so manypeople out there who are like,
it's a wonderful book.
But it just wasn't my cup oftea.

SPEAKER_00 (20:16):
All right.
Welcome back to our podcast ofStrange Brew, eh?

UNKNOWN (20:20):
Sorry.

SPEAKER_03 (20:20):
That was a very long aside.
All to say, Charles Fox was thecomposer on the film version of
it.
So there you go.
He also composed for the TV showLove, American Style.
He gets his first Oscar nom.
It was her best original songfor a film called The Other Side
of the Mountain.
Here we go.

(20:41):
Here are two really popularshows.
He was the composer for Laverneand Shirley as well as Happy
Days.

SPEAKER_00 (20:48):
I know of those.

SPEAKER_03 (20:49):
Yeah.
He gets another Oscarnomination, again, for Best
Original Song for a film calledFoul Play.
And so this isn't the first timewe've brought him up.
It just has been quite a while.
He was the composer on LittleDarlings, which I think that's
early 80s, so we probably couldcover that.
But he was the composer on 9 to5.
Oh, really?
Yeah.

UNKNOWN (21:09):
Okay.

SPEAKER_03 (21:10):
So that's where we have spoken of him first.
Go check that episode out.
He also was the composer onNational Lampoon's European
Vacation, the TV show The LoveBoat.
The Love Boat.
And then I didn't even know thiswas a show.
How'd that go again?
I'm not very good at that.
So that's going to be the firstand only time I do it.

(21:31):
He was the composer for the TVseries Conan the Adventurer.

SPEAKER_00 (21:36):
He also apparently was the composer of NFL Monday
Night Football.

SPEAKER_03 (21:42):
Oh, wow.

SPEAKER_00 (21:42):
Going all the way back to 1970.

SPEAKER_03 (21:44):
Wow.

SPEAKER_00 (21:44):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (21:45):
Good call out.
Okay.
So moving on to film editing,Patrick McMahon.
Some interesting credits for himas well.
And I will say, like,confidently, we haven't brought
it up before, but he will comeup again.
He will.

SPEAKER_00 (22:00):
Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (22:01):
So some of his credits, early TV work, Kojak.

UNKNOWN (22:05):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (22:05):
Oh, yeah, that guy, Telly Savalas.
Telly Savalas

SPEAKER_03 (22:08):
with the lollipop,

SPEAKER_00 (22:09):
right?

SPEAKER_03 (22:10):
That's all I know about that show.
So he was the editor on that.
I don't know this film.
I just thought it was kind of aninteresting title.
He cut a film called Gas PumpGirls.
Okay.
As well as a film called NightKill.
Here we go.
He'll come up again because hewas the editor on A Nightmare on

(22:31):
Elm Street.

SPEAKER_00 (22:32):
Yeah, we'll definitely cover that, right?
100%.

SPEAKER_03 (22:34):
Are

SPEAKER_00 (22:34):
we covering it this year?

SPEAKER_03 (22:35):
Maybe we should because at this point we've done
the other two major–

SPEAKER_00 (22:43):
Like franchises?
Franchises

SPEAKER_03 (22:45):
because we have covered Halloween.
We had to do Halloween 2 becausethe first one obviously is in
the 70s, but we did do Fridaythe 13th, this past Halloween
series.
So maybe, if not this year, nextyear for sure.
Those slots for the Halloweenseries, they get snatched up
real quick.

SPEAKER_00 (23:01):
Highly coveted.

SPEAKER_03 (23:02):
Highly coveted.
He also, and this is why we willprobably cover him more than
once, he also cut the filmLittle Monsters.
I could see us doing that atsome point.
Yeah, I think so.
And then I brought these upbecause of you.
He was the editor.
I thought this was reallyinteresting.
He cut both The Stand and TheShining.
And those are both Stephen King,right?

SPEAKER_00 (23:23):
Yeah, there were like TV miniseries versions of
those.
And for like The Stand, I thinkthat's all there's ever been.
I don't know if there's...

SPEAKER_03 (23:31):
Yeah, this is both for the TV miniseries.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (23:33):
Yeah.
I think Rob Lowe...
Is in the TV...
The stand?
Yeah, I think

SPEAKER_01 (23:40):
he

SPEAKER_00 (23:41):
is.
Okay.
It was okay.
It is probably the standout, andit hasn't aged well.
I think just that's the natureof looking at TV series.
They don't really stack up withmodern stuff.
The early

SPEAKER_03 (23:55):
90s were such a popular time for Stephen King
miniseries.

SPEAKER_00 (23:59):
Yeah.
Yeah, they were.
But now, I'm way off trackagain, but...
My hope is that some of theseget redone, like the movie
version of The Dark Tower wasabysmal, but they are working on
putting together just like aproper series on a streaming
service.
That would make way more sense.
Anyways.

SPEAKER_03 (24:19):
No, that's great.
So he also just a couple morecredits for him.
I brought this one in because ofthe other credit we talked
about.
He cut the TV series of Roswelland then a film called, I'm
going to say, Silencio.

SPEAKER_00 (24:35):
Okay.
Oh, yeah.
Silencio.

SPEAKER_03 (24:38):
Yeah, right?

SPEAKER_00 (24:39):
Yeah, that's

SPEAKER_03 (24:40):
exactly...
Okay.
So, stars of the film.
We have talked about them atlength already.
However, let's do it.
So, first up, we have RickMoranis.
He is Bob McKenzie.
So, okay, in case...
I strongly feel that you shouldwatch this movie before you

(25:02):
would listen to this podcast.
Otherwise, just like it'salready nonsensical.
And if you haven't seen themovie, it would just be, I
think, very hard to followalong.

SPEAKER_00 (25:11):
If you have not seen the movie yet and you're
listening to this, what are youdoing?
Why?
How?
How did we even get here?
Because

SPEAKER_03 (25:17):
we're just that...
Maybe we...
We make it compelling.

SPEAKER_00 (25:22):
So watch the movie.

SPEAKER_03 (25:23):
But watch the movie.
Watch the movie.
So Rick Moranis and Dave Thomasare brothers.
The characters are brothers.
Yes.
And Rick Moranis is, I guess,the younger brother, Bob
McKenzie.
And as far as...
Once we also cover Dave Thomas,we can go into the story more

(25:44):
so.
But as far as I mentionedearlier in this episode, Rick
Moranis, I think anybody who...
has any kind of passing interestin film is probably somewhat
aware of the fact that RickMoranis in large part stepped
away from the industry.
Not in totality.
If you actually look at hisfilmography, even in the mid to

(26:08):
late 90s...
He's doing some voice stuff.
He's doing some stuff.
Yeah.
Because some people are like,oh, he just retired from
Hollywood.
That's not really true.
However...
Unfortunately, he lost his wifewhen they had two very small
children.
And so he did this amazing thingwhere, I mean, that is what you
would hope any competent parentwould do.

SPEAKER_00 (26:31):
He was a dad.

SPEAKER_03 (26:32):
He was a dad.

SPEAKER_00 (26:33):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (26:33):
And so he became a single parent and needed to be
there for his kids.
So he, I think, just became veryselective about what he was
going to do so that he could bethere for them.
So that's amazing.
That is an amazing thing to dobecause he was like– I mean, I

(26:54):
would say the late 80s, early90s, and I think his wife did
pass around like maybe 91.
He was like at the height of hispopularity.

SPEAKER_00 (27:01):
Yeah.
So– I mean, he could have donewhat– Some celebrities, wealthy
people do and just get like ananny and then have a few more
kids with like a few moredifferent people and not also
take care of them either.
Yeah.
Wait, I'm thinking of someprofessional athletes, I think.
Oh, well.

SPEAKER_03 (27:20):
A lot of people.
Politicians.

SPEAKER_00 (27:22):
Oh,

SPEAKER_03 (27:22):
yeah.
So, yeah, there's a lot ofpeople that take that route.

SPEAKER_00 (27:26):
He went the other way.
He

SPEAKER_03 (27:28):
went the other way.
And, you know.
Anyway, I don't want to wax onabout it, but that's why we
haven't seen as much of him asmaybe we would have.
However, we're 30 years removedat this point, which is kind of
incredible to say, from when hiswife passed.
You hear here and there aboutprojects that might be in

(27:53):
whatever stage of developmentthat he might be attached to,
but as far as what I have—pulled as far as his filmography
goes.
So a lot of the things thatwe've already talked about, the
fact that he was on SCTV as wellas SCTV Network.
Of course, he is beloved asLouis Tully from Ghostbusters,

(28:16):
and he comes back for thesequel, Ghostbusters 2.
I think probably a lot of peoplealso know that that role was
supposed...
And it was given.
It was given to John Candy.
It's just that Candy had anidea...
of how he wanted to play thatcharacter that just didn't seem
to vibe with...
Do you know the story?
No,

SPEAKER_00 (28:37):
I don't.
I mean, I could see either oneof them being in that role, so
I'm curious what he diddifferent.

SPEAKER_03 (28:42):
I guess...
Now, I haven't taken a deep divein researching what went down.
But basically, Candy wanted tobe like a German character.
So he's going to have this likereally strong accent and just
have like this whole idea of howhe wanted to do this character.
And Ivan Reitman was just like,no.

SPEAKER_00 (29:00):
So if an actor has an idea like that and like
Reitman or a director is like,no, no.
Wouldn't there be like an opera?
Like, is there a chance to belike, oh, OK, well, I'll do it
this other way?
Or is that just is it like EricStoltz on Back to the Future?
And they're like, no, man, getout.

SPEAKER_03 (29:16):
You're out of here.
I

SPEAKER_00 (29:19):
think

SPEAKER_03 (29:19):
it depends.
I mean, I would like to think atthis point, because like Candy
and Reitman and Harold Ramis andBill Murray and like all those
guys that were part of thatfilm, they all had been working
together and they all knew eachother.
I'd like to think that there wasa conversation had and maybe
when Reitman was like this isn'texactly what I envisioned this
isn't what I want and Candy islike well this is the way I'd

(29:41):
like to do the characterhopefully they amicably were
like okay well then

SPEAKER_01 (29:45):
yeah I'm just not interested it's not gonna work
for us

SPEAKER_03 (29:48):
okay so I'd like to think that's the way it panned
out I don't know if that's thecase so all I know is that Candy
had an idea of the characterthat overall was just like not
gonna work for the film so Inany case, Rick Moranis kind of
at the 11th hour stepped in, andI think we're lucky for it.
No shade to John Candy.

(30:09):
No.
But Rick Moranis is like, hesteals that movie, honestly.
And that's saying something whenyou have people like Bill
Murray, Harold Ramis, and DanAykroyd in that film.
I'm

SPEAKER_00 (30:22):
just thinking of how amazing it would have been
seeing Sigourney Weaver and JohnCandy as the gatekeeper and key
master.

SPEAKER_03 (30:30):
I mean, it still would have been funny but okay
so and I do have almost entirelyall film credits for him he I
mean he had an incredible 80sand this is not the first time
we've brought him up he didBrewster's Millions the other
title so far oh and of course wedid Ghostbusters yeah goes

(30:51):
without saying but The othertitle besides Ghostbusters that
we've already covered with himis Little Shop of Horrors.
So definitely go check that oneout.
I'm sure at some point we willdo Spaceballs.
In fact, I don't know.
It might be in the lineup forthis year, for later on this
year.

SPEAKER_00 (31:08):
Yeah, I'm kind of shocked that we haven't.
When I looked at the date, I'mlike, oh, how have we not done
that?

SPEAKER_03 (31:13):
Now that I'm thinking about it, how odd that
he's in two films that bothspoof Star Wars.

SPEAKER_01 (31:20):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (31:21):
Kind of interesting, huh?
Yeah.
with that franchise that, youknow, you'll see his name

(31:42):
attached, like, I think likeshorts or things like that.
So he's been part of that.
I would also really love to doParenthood.
That one's, I think, just underthe wire.
I think that's$89 million.
Oh, you're right.
Yeah.

(32:23):
Yeah, he is the

SPEAKER_00 (32:35):
DJ or the guy running the mud wrestling place,
right?

SPEAKER_03 (32:38):
I think so.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So he is in that.
He also has done a ton of voicework.
So some different series thathe's voiced on, Raw Tunage and
King of the Hill.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (32:53):
Oh, yeah.
I love that show.

SPEAKER_03 (32:55):
And most recently, a show, I don't know it, but I'm
guessing it's like a kids maybething, Fast and Furious Spy
Racers.

SPEAKER_00 (33:04):
I...
had done when I was still withthe marketing group, some like
clearance and review of stuffassociated with that.
So yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (33:13):
Is it animated?

SPEAKER_00 (33:14):
It is.
Yeah.
It's a DreamWorks.
It's a DreamWorks animated showthat follows like a relative of
Toretto.

SPEAKER_03 (33:20):
Got it.
Yeah.
But it's a cartoon.

SPEAKER_00 (33:22):
Yes.

SPEAKER_03 (33:23):
Interesting.

SPEAKER_00 (33:24):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (33:25):
So other acting credits for him.
I know for a while, I neverwatched the show because I was
just too young to be into it.
Grace Under Fire.
Hmm.
So he was on that for a while.
Also, I should have put thisunder the voice work, Justice
League.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, some stuff on that.
I don't know if I'm going to getheat for this.

(33:49):
I actually never really watchedthe show Arrested Development.
Not because I was against it.
It just never really was part ofmy viewing experience.
Whatever.

SPEAKER_00 (33:59):
It's one of those shows where I think it...
I think there was, like, a splitor something.
It got, like, picked up byNetflix.

SPEAKER_03 (34:06):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (34:07):
It was kind of

SPEAKER_03 (34:07):
one of the first instances of that, right?

SPEAKER_00 (34:09):
Yeah.
And I really enjoyed the first,like, season or so.
When it got over to Netflix, Itried watching it, and it felt
like it was just...
I don't know.
It lost me at that point.
But there are some, like, reallyamazingly funny episodes.

SPEAKER_03 (34:25):
Those are all the shows where, like...
I mean, I think that was...
Jason Bateman's big return.

SPEAKER_00 (34:31):
Yeah, I think so.
Like, that's really

SPEAKER_03 (34:32):
what kicked off kind of the second half of his
career.

SPEAKER_00 (34:34):
And what's his name from Lego Masters?
Will Arnett.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (34:38):
And also Tony Hale, right?
He's

SPEAKER_00 (34:41):
the other brother.
Yeah, I think so.
And he's gone on to do so manyother things from, like, Veep
to, like, his own, like,animation writing and stuff.
Oh, interesting.
Yeah, he created something thatwas on DreamWorks as well.

SPEAKER_03 (34:54):
Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_00 (34:55):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (34:55):
And then...
The other credits I have for himare coming back to this
property.
So, of course, he was part ofBob and Doug McKenzie's 2-4
anniversary and then voiced Dougas part of Bob and Doug.
Okay, moving on to maybe thewildest casting decision ever
for a film.

(35:16):
The fact that Max von Sydow– amI saying it right?

SPEAKER_00 (35:22):
Max von Sydow.
Sydow.

SPEAKER_03 (35:23):
Just say it quickly, Anna.

UNKNOWN (35:25):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (35:25):
Von Sadow is in this movie, kind of breaks my brain.

SPEAKER_00 (35:32):
They wrote the part for him, but never thought
they'd get him.

SPEAKER_03 (35:38):
Which is the most, like the highest compliment that
both that they are like, we wantto write it for this guy and the
fact that he took it.
Like, hopefully he had fun.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (35:50):
You know, part of what helped was that his kid was
a huge SCTV fan.

SPEAKER_03 (35:56):
Gotcha.

SPEAKER_00 (35:57):
And that played a big part.

SPEAKER_03 (35:59):
That's a great little fun fact.
Thanks

SPEAKER_00 (36:01):
for that.
That fact is fun.

SPEAKER_03 (36:03):
So he is Brewmeister Smith, which I can't really
think of a parallel to Hamlet.
So it's like that's kind ofwhere I think it ends, the
Hamlet story.
I

SPEAKER_00 (36:14):
don't know why they did something to his teeth.

SPEAKER_03 (36:17):
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, I don't know ifthat's...

SPEAKER_00 (36:19):
Chompers.

SPEAKER_03 (36:20):
Chompers.
And I don't know if that alsothen impacted...
He has a very commanding voiceto begin with.

SPEAKER_00 (36:28):
Was it to accentuate an accent or something?
I think so.
I

SPEAKER_03 (36:33):
think so.
But it's just so fucking bizarrethat this guy is in this movie
for a million reasons.
Yeah.
I mean, he is an Oscar-nominatedactor, and...
You know, had been– I reallywonder what people were thinking
when he– when this film wasannounced and they were like,

(36:54):
oh, and by the way, Max vonSydow.
I feel like I'm always trippingup on that.
Oh, well.
That he– I'm going to call himMax, Maxie.
That he was part of thisbecause, first of all, his first
credit was in 1949 for a filmcalled Only a Mother.
And then his huge– creativeassociation for a huge part of

(37:15):
his career is with IgmarBergman, of all people.
Oh, wow.
Highly acclaimed Swedishdirector.
I mean, Max is also Swedish.
So that's, I think, kind ofwhere that collaboration comes
from.

SPEAKER_00 (37:29):
Some of the titles in his history, you're not even
going to try to say.
Oh,

SPEAKER_03 (37:33):
for sure.
For sure I'm not.
But he was in like over a dozenmovies.
Like, and this, I'm talkinglike, it's like, I am, I am not
an expert at all oninternational cinema, but Igmar
Bergman is a highly regarded,critically acclaimed actor.

(37:56):
film director.
Yeah.
And they obviously had alongstanding professional
relationship.
He was in films like The SeventhSeal, Wild Strawberries.
Those are two of the mostwell-known films for me of
Bergman's.
So he's part of...
First of all, he's part of that.
So that's part of his careerhistory.
Then probably a huge segment offilm fans...

(38:22):
know him from The Exorcist.
He is The Exorcist.
I guess you can argue FatherParis is too.
But they both are.
But yeah.
So, I mean, it's like insanethat the guy from The Exorcist
and what's his father?

SPEAKER_00 (38:39):
Dyer?

SPEAKER_03 (38:40):
Yes.
Thank

SPEAKER_00 (38:41):
you.

SPEAKER_03 (38:42):
Yeah.
That he is part of this film.
It's just like hilarious to me.
Well,

SPEAKER_00 (38:48):
we're going to cover him in some other movies later.
I'm sure of it.

SPEAKER_03 (38:51):
Yeah, probably one this year because you have
requested and I have to honorthat to do a film that I'll
bring up in a second.
But actually, there will be acouple films.
I'd like to think that maybelater in his career, he's like,
let's just fucking have some funwith some of the– because like
Bergman– okay, look, Bergman,great director.
His movies aren't fun.

(39:13):
So– They almost, for me, for myaesthetic, almost border
sometimes on experimental interms of storytelling and

SPEAKER_01 (39:22):
that sort of thing.

SPEAKER_03 (39:23):
Okay.
But in any case, so he did comeback.
I know that this movie, and youhate this movie.

SPEAKER_00 (39:29):
Oh, what?

SPEAKER_03 (39:29):
Because he did come back for Exorcist II, The
Heretic.

SPEAKER_00 (39:32):
It's terrible.

SPEAKER_03 (39:33):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (39:34):
Wait, Father Marin?
Okay, Father Marin.
Who's Father Dyer?

SPEAKER_03 (39:39):
Oh, Father Dyer is Karis's buddy.

SPEAKER_00 (39:41):
Okay.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yep.
That's who he is.
Corrections and retractions.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (39:46):
So he does come back for that.
He is in Three Days of theCondor.
And then here's where I'm like,let's just have fun.
He's in Flash Gordon.

SPEAKER_00 (39:54):
Okay.
As Emperor Ming.
Yeah.
Okay.

SPEAKER_03 (39:58):
He is in Conan the Barbarian.
There's actually a lot of moviesfrom the 80s.
Conan the Barbarian.
Okay.

UNKNOWN (40:06):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (40:07):
But he's in that.
I don't know what character heis.

SPEAKER_00 (40:09):
Never Say Never Again.
Okay.
Oh, Never Say Never Again, whenthey got Sean Connery to come
back as James Bond.
Yeah,

SPEAKER_03 (40:16):
which is why that title is so fun.
Here we go.
He is in Dreamscape.
Fuck yeah.
So probably will be coming upagain.
Very timely.
He was in David Lynch's Dune,who, as of this recording, Lynch
passed away maybe about a weekago.
So he is in that.
Hannah and her sisters.

(40:37):
So he does so much in hiscareer, and it's only at this
stage of it that he gets hisvery first Oscar nomination.
Best actor for Pele theConqueror.
So that's the first one.
He ultimately has twonominations before he passes
away.
He actually, I thought, I guesstechnically speaking we could

(41:01):
cover that film, but I don't.
think we would for a while.
He is uncredited as the voice ofVigo in Ghostbusters 2.
That's

SPEAKER_00 (41:12):
crazy.

SPEAKER_03 (41:13):
Right?

UNKNOWN (41:14):
Yeah, it is.

SPEAKER_00 (41:15):
And also, yeah, no, I'm not beating down any doors
to cover that.
There are just a lot of othermovies that we could probably
get to before we're likeGhostbusters 2.

SPEAKER_03 (41:26):
Or Pele the Conqueror, because that one's
awesome.

SPEAKER_00 (41:29):
Pele the Conqueror is definitely going to happen
before Ghostbusters 2.
Before

SPEAKER_03 (41:33):
Ghostbusters 2.
Yeah.
He is in Awakenings, the firstJudge Dredd, What Dreams May
Come.
You know, I do like this movie,although I don't throw it on a
ton.
He's in Minority Report.

SPEAKER_00 (41:47):
Yeah, that movie is like shockingly accurate in some
of its depictions of like afuture.
Yeah.
Always on a camera state.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (41:57):
He is in The Diving Bell and the Butterfly, Shutter
Island.
He gets his second Oscar nom,this time for Best Supporting
Actor, for Extremely Loud andIncredibly Close.
He is in...
And then he becomes part of theStar Wars world.
He is in Star Wars Episode VII,The Force Awakens.

SPEAKER_00 (42:21):
Okay.

SPEAKER_03 (42:22):
He was on...
Now, I...
Don't know if I remember whatcharacter he was, but he was on
Game of Thrones.

SPEAKER_00 (42:30):
I can't remember who or what.
You're going to have to look up

SPEAKER_03 (42:34):
the name.
Was he the tree?
I don't know if the name wouldhelp me.
Oh, yeah, right.
Yep, yep, yep.
He is the three-eyed raven.
Yeah.
Yep.
Thank you.
Thank you for...
He's the tree guy.
Yeah, he's the tree guy.
Okay.
And then his final credit was afilm called Echoes of the Past.

SPEAKER_00 (42:50):
And then he was also in another Stephen King
adaptation, Needful Things.

SPEAKER_03 (42:54):
Oh, thank you for that.

SPEAKER_00 (42:56):
I always catch those.

SPEAKER_03 (42:57):
Yeah.
No, it's good.
Paul Dooley.
Crazy eyebrows in this movie.
I think they...
Did they dye his eyebrows?
Crazy eyebrows.
He does not look like thatliterally a year later in 16
Candles.

SPEAKER_00 (43:17):
No, that's– why could I not remember him?

SPEAKER_03 (43:20):
So it's like what the fuck did they do with his–
anyway.
So he is Claude Elsinore.
Claudius.
Claudius, if we're going toreference his character
counterpart in the play.
He is the brother– I actuallywish they would have leaned more
into this, although I think thatwould take away from like the
comedy– He is the brother who Ithink in in the play, he and

(43:46):
Gertrude very much do murder theking.
And this one, he doesn't.
directly murder his brother,once his brother's already dead,
he sets up the body to look likehe's been electrocuted.
Yeah.
So, but he's complicit.
He doesn't try to stopBrewmeister Smith from killing
him.
I think he's aware of what isgoing to happen to his brother.

SPEAKER_02 (44:07):
Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_03 (44:08):
And then it's like, fucking hell, he marries the
wife the very next day.
So it's like, okay.
Not cool.
Not sus at all.
Paul Dooley...
He is still very much with us,still acting at 96 years old.
Shit, that's

SPEAKER_00 (44:27):
awesome.
That's super cool.
It's amazing.
I

SPEAKER_03 (44:30):
love that people like Betty White and everyone of
that generation gets theirprops.
He needs to get some props.
He's fucking 96 years old.
He's still acting.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (44:41):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (44:43):
I mean, come on.
What's a guy got to do to getsome attention for that?
Yeah.
Obviously, he's had a super longcareer.
Some of the highlights that I'venoted, he was in the film
Slapshot.
This—well, a couple films,honestly, might come up on our
radar with him in it.
We saw this not too long ago,although we haven't covered it

(45:04):
yet, for the podcast Popeye.

SPEAKER_00 (45:08):
How— We've seen it, but we haven't covered it.
We haven't covered it yet.
Yeah.
I

SPEAKER_03 (45:14):
think we're holding out to see if our friend will do
it with us.
So yes, at some point we will.
It is kind of funny that like ofall the John Hughes films, we
haven't covered 16 Candles yet,but he is in that.
He is Samantha's father.
And honestly, he plays a supersweet character.

SPEAKER_00 (45:31):
That'll be the last episode we ever do.
Just have a good bookend betweenthat.
And it's

SPEAKER_03 (45:37):
actually not a bad idea.

SPEAKER_00 (45:38):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (45:39):
So he has, of course, done some TV work.
I don't know this show, but he'son a show called Coming of Age,
Dream On.
He also was on Grace Under Fire.
He is part of the Star Trekworld, Star Trek Deep Space
Nine.

SPEAKER_00 (45:53):
I've heard good things about that.
I never got into it, but maybeone day.
I

SPEAKER_03 (45:58):
mean, he's been on so much.
I'm going to circle back to somefilms.
He was in the movie Shakes theClown.
Huh?
That's the one with– I sayeverything wrong.
Bobcat Goldthwaite.

SPEAKER_00 (46:14):
Oh, Bobcat Goldthwaite.

SPEAKER_03 (46:15):
Yeah.
Did I get that out right?
I think you got it outperfectly.
Oh, shit.
He's in that.
Okay.
Runaway Bride.
More TV work.
Once and again, The Practice ER.
Curb Your Enthusiasm.
And then he has his ownfranchise as well because– He's
part of the Cars universe.

SPEAKER_00 (46:35):
Oh, really?
Okay.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (46:37):
So Cars, I think as far as like feature length films
are concerned, there's been Cars1, 2, and 3.
But then that is anotherfranchise that's just had all
these other things that havespun off from it.
And he's been part of it, Ithink almost all of it.
He's in the film For YourConsideration.
And then lately, more TV work,the show Huge, as well as The

(46:59):
Kids Are Alright.
Wow.

SPEAKER_00 (47:02):
Good for him.

SPEAKER_03 (47:02):
Yeah, right?
Okay.
Moving on.
We got two more people.
First, Pamela Elsinore.
Like I said, I think they didtheir best to try to mimic
Hamlet, but a girl.
I'm glad they switched it up toa chick.
Pamlet?
Pamlet.
Kind of funny.
Lynn Griffin.

UNKNOWN (47:23):
Okay.

SPEAKER_03 (47:23):
And she's still working as well.
Oh, that's so funny becausesomething I misspoke on, she
actually was in.
I'll get to that in a second.
Okay.
So she is still very muchworking.
In 2024 alone, she had eightcredits.
So very busy up to this day.
Some of her credits include, I'malso going to get some flack for
this because I'm not a huge fanof it.

(47:44):
She was in the film BlackChristmas.

SPEAKER_00 (47:47):
No, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (47:49):
I don't even know which of the women she was,
but...
I can appreciate that

SPEAKER_00 (47:53):
it's like— Maybe she was the one that's basically in
the attic dead the whole time.
I don't think she is.
No?
Okay.
I don't

SPEAKER_03 (47:58):
think that's her, but I don't know for sure.
I know that film has animportant part in horror
history.
It's just—

SPEAKER_00 (48:06):
I may have expected something, and that's not what
it was, and maybe that impactshow I look at it.
But yeah, it wasn't a favoriteof mine.

SPEAKER_03 (48:17):
Same.
She was in The Heavenly Kid.
She has also done some voicework.
She did some voice work for ashow called Naughty.
Don't know that.
N-O-D-D-Y.
She was on a TV show called Windat My Back.
This is interesting.
I didn't even know this existed.
And it is not part of the castof characters that I watched

(48:38):
growing up.
But she was in a TV movie calledAnne of Green Gables, A New
Beginning.

SPEAKER_00 (48:43):
Oh, wow.
No.

SPEAKER_03 (48:44):
No.

SPEAKER_00 (48:44):
No?
I

SPEAKER_03 (48:45):
don't want to watch it.

SPEAKER_00 (48:46):
Okay.
To be clear, I've just thought,how exciting for you.

SPEAKER_03 (48:50):
How exciting.
Yeah.
So she was on that.
Here we go.
So she was in the film versionof the book adaptation,
Fahrenheit 451.
Oh,

SPEAKER_00 (48:59):
okay.

SPEAKER_03 (49:00):
That's the actual-

SPEAKER_00 (49:01):
Just like the aliens.

SPEAKER_03 (49:02):
Just like the aliens.

SPEAKER_00 (49:03):
The aliens place is Area 451.
Exactly.
Okay.

SPEAKER_03 (49:06):
Exactly that.
And just in general, a lot of TVwork.
So she's been busy.
So good for her.
Okay, moving on to our finalcredit.
This makes me really sad becausehe literally just passed away.
Oh.
Angus McGinnis.

SPEAKER_00 (49:25):
Rosie.
Rosie.
From the intro clip,

SPEAKER_03 (49:27):
yeah.
Yeah.
I guess his, like, so his nextname's Rosie, but Jean LaRose is
the character's name.
He, the actor, just passed awayon December 23rd.

SPEAKER_00 (49:40):
Oh, my

SPEAKER_03 (49:40):
God.
So very, very recent.
Yeah.
And I mean, it's such aninteresting inclusion of this
character.
So and just even the backstory,like he, I guess, is a or was a
professional hockey player, butfor whatever reason, had a
nervous breakdown.

SPEAKER_00 (49:56):
Yes.

SPEAKER_03 (49:57):
And so now he works at the factory.

SPEAKER_00 (49:59):
Well, it also.
But he's been brainwashed,right?
And it landed him.
I think the I think it hassomething to do with like.
the mental institution that'snext to the brewery.
You're right,

SPEAKER_03 (50:09):
you're right.

SPEAKER_00 (50:09):
So I think he might have been like a patient of...

SPEAKER_03 (50:11):
You're right.

SPEAKER_00 (50:12):
Because the brewmaster, Max von Sydow, is
also...
Like, does he run?

SPEAKER_03 (50:19):
Like managing this like, you know, what they were
probably calling at the timelike an insane asylum.

SPEAKER_00 (50:24):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (50:25):
So, yeah, it's...
Yeah, yeah.
So let's get through his creditsand then we'll dive into this
story.
So...
McGinnis, here's what'sfascinating to me is some of
these films that he's been partof.
So even well before this film,he is gold leader.

(50:45):
That's right.
In Star Wars episode 4, A NewHope.
Otherwise known as Star Wars.
Otherwise, I know.
You like to say that.
So he is gold leader in thatfilm.
He also is a prison warden inSuperman 2.

SPEAKER_01 (51:00):
Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_03 (51:01):
He– I don't know to what degree– like, okay, so we
know those films pretty well.
You know, no small roles, onlysmall actors or whatever they
say.
But, like, minor roles he had inthose films.
I don't know to what degree hehad more significant roles
because I'm not super familiarwith the rest of these films.
Although– No, we did not watchthis.

(51:23):
We watched Presumed Denison.
The other Harrison Ford film,Witness.

SPEAKER_00 (51:28):
I'm pretty sure I remember his character in that
because there is like a...
Is he

SPEAKER_03 (51:33):
Amish?

SPEAKER_00 (51:34):
He's not.
He's one of the bad guys, I'mpretty sure.
Oh, okay.
And I think if I remember, thisis just off the top of my head,
that Harrison Ford somehowtricks him into getting into one
of the silos and they just dumpeverything down on him.
So you're just watching him...
Unable to find a way out becauseof all the dust.

(51:55):
And then he's like buried alive.
And you just see him likestruggling to try to get out.
Oh, that's actually– I thinkthat's the guy.
That's

SPEAKER_03 (52:02):
like a legit nightmare to die that way.
That's

SPEAKER_00 (52:05):
why I still have that memory, I think.
I still remember that.

SPEAKER_03 (52:08):
That's horrifying.
I've seen scenes like that in acouple movies.
Same thing in the Superman– ornot Superman.
Spider-Man movie.
Where– what's the– He becomes abaddie.

SPEAKER_00 (52:19):
The Sandman guy?

SPEAKER_03 (52:20):
Sandman.
Like the same thing.
Oh, it's horrifying.
Horrifying.
Yeah.
Those scenes.

SPEAKER_00 (52:24):
Yeah.
That moment from Witness, I'mlike, oh my God.
So if we watch it.

SPEAKER_03 (52:28):
No.
You might.
I mean, it's a good movie.
Turn me off of it.
So he's in that.
He's in Gross Anatomy.
He also was in Judge Dredd.

SPEAKER_00 (52:37):
The first one was Stallone?
Correct.
Okay.

SPEAKER_03 (52:40):
Hellboy.
Hellboy.
He is in The Black Dahlia, morerecently Captain Phillips, and
then I love this.
So I don't know if they justpulled old footage, or I should
say like audio, but he repriseshis role as Gold Leader, the
voice of Gold Leader, in RogueOne A Star Wars Story.

SPEAKER_00 (53:02):
That's awesome.

SPEAKER_03 (53:04):
So I love that they did that.
And yeah, over the course of hiscareer, like I said, he's
recently passed, but a lot of TVwork, so...
All right.
Okay.
Film synopsis.

SPEAKER_00 (53:15):
What is the point of a film synopsis?
Like, how?
Here we go.
Okay.

SPEAKER_03 (53:20):
We're just going to do it.
Canada's two most famous hosers,Bob and Doug McKenzie, get jobs
at the Elsinore Brewery only tolearn that something is rotten
with the state of it.

SPEAKER_00 (53:35):
Okay.
Okay.
OK, that's that something isrotten in the state of Denmark.
Kind of.
Yes, correct.
I picked up what they put down.
I like that.

SPEAKER_03 (53:43):
Yeah, it's fun.
I mean, the fact that somebodyis able to put together a
coherent little blurb about whatthis movie is about.
Yeah,

SPEAKER_00 (53:52):
that might be one of them.
Honestly, that's one of the moreimpressive synopses.

SPEAKER_03 (53:56):
Yeah,

SPEAKER_00 (53:57):
that that we've seen.

SPEAKER_03 (53:58):
Because I, and I know I often do forget when I'm
like, oh, let's put a put inthat.
I'm going to remember this time.
So before we even get into theElsinore part of the story, you,
I mean, you were talking aboutit as we were watching it.
So there's this whole.
Like

SPEAKER_00 (54:16):
five or 10 minutes.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (54:18):
It's like a cold open.

SPEAKER_00 (54:19):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (54:21):
And it has nothing to do with the rest of the film.

SPEAKER_00 (54:23):
It's basically two cold opens because it's almost
like, hey, you know us from thisspoken word thing.
Yes, they are definitely

SPEAKER_03 (54:31):
going off the assumption that we are familiar
with the characters.

SPEAKER_00 (54:34):
And now we're in this movie theater premiering
our movie and their movie islike shockingly good.
It's intentionally bad.

SPEAKER_03 (54:44):
Correct.

SPEAKER_00 (54:44):
But even for that.
It's

SPEAKER_03 (54:47):
like mutants from AD 2051 or something like that.

SPEAKER_00 (54:51):
Yeah.
Is the movie.
The plot was even morenonsensical than the actual plot
of the real movie that was afterthe movie within a movie.
Yes.
Yeah.
But by the time the crowd beginsto riot because of how awful
this movie is, then you get tothem like getting in the van

(55:11):
and.
Taking off opening credits.

SPEAKER_03 (55:14):
Yes.

SPEAKER_00 (55:14):
Music by Dave Thomas's brother.
Performed by his brother.
Oh,

SPEAKER_03 (55:19):
that is so fun.
That song.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, look, personally, Ithink the bit goes on a little
too long.

SPEAKER_00 (55:29):
Yeah, it does.
It very much does.
I

SPEAKER_03 (55:33):
guess maybe it's supposed to establish like.
show you who these twocharacters are, kind of how
dense they are, the lovinganimosity between the two of
them, the way they interact witheach other.
But the bit itself is just alittle too long.
It is.

(55:54):
And it is really surreal becauseit's like, okay, so they're
talking directly to the screen.
So it's as if they're breakingthe fourth wall.

SPEAKER_00 (56:03):
Yeah, you see the theater crowd.
At a certain point.

SPEAKER_03 (56:08):
But that's what's so weird about it is that it
doesn't open that way.
You think that they're like– notthat you actually think they're
talking to us, but they're justtalking to the camera.
And they're talking to thecamera to introduce a film that
they've done.
So it's a movie about– A movie.
Within a movie.
Initially.
And then once they introducethat an audience is watching

(56:28):
this, now it's a movie in amovie in a movie.

SPEAKER_00 (56:30):
And they're in that movie.

SPEAKER_03 (56:31):
And they're in that movie.

SPEAKER_00 (56:32):
Watching themselves.
Yes.
On that movie that's showinganother movie.
Yes.
Oh, my God.

SPEAKER_03 (56:38):
It's very...

SPEAKER_00 (56:41):
Super meta.
Convoluted.
Yes.

SPEAKER_03 (56:43):
So, yes, you're absolutely right.
It doesn't work out.
Not only is it a bad movie, butthen the movie breaks.
So, the...
Mutants from AD51 breaks.
The movie of the brothersviewing the movie doesn't break.
That's still playing on thescreen.
But the audience is like fuckingover it.
And so, yes, they riotessentially.

(57:06):
The brothers get away.
And then it turns into a totallydifferent movie where they

SPEAKER_00 (57:12):
go home.
Well, the only thing thatconnects it is because Rick
Moranis gives– the dad's beermoney to

SPEAKER_03 (57:20):
someone

SPEAKER_00 (57:21):
as like a refund for their movie tickets.
Wow,

SPEAKER_03 (57:24):
the most tenuous of connections.

SPEAKER_00 (57:26):
Then they get home and their dad, who of course is
voiced by someone that we didn'tlisten to credits, but it's Mel
Blanc.

SPEAKER_03 (57:31):
Yes.

SPEAKER_00 (57:32):
From Blanc, Blanc?

SPEAKER_03 (57:34):
I think it's Blanc.

SPEAKER_00 (57:36):
Yeah.
Yeah.
So that's why they have to tryto get beer and they use the
trick with the mouse in the beerbottle.

SPEAKER_03 (57:43):
You know what's kind of fun about Mel Blanc?
So, like, okay, so if you

SPEAKER_00 (57:46):
don't know...
So many things.

SPEAKER_03 (57:48):
Bugs Bunny, Daffy Duck.
So those are his two maincharacters.
But I just looked it up.
He also did Barney Rubble, whichis fun because Rick Moranis
played Barney Rubble in the liveversion of The Flintstones.

SPEAKER_00 (58:01):
Yeah, that is fun.

SPEAKER_03 (58:02):
Yeah.
So I'm sorry to interrupt.

SPEAKER_00 (58:04):
Oh, I don't even know what I was saying.

SPEAKER_03 (58:06):
Well, you were actually...

SPEAKER_00 (58:09):
Yes,

SPEAKER_03 (58:10):
positing that the cold open does connect to the
rest of the film.

SPEAKER_00 (58:15):
There probably is an easier way for Rick Moranis'
character to lose the 15 bucksfrom his dad.

SPEAKER_03 (58:19):
Yeah.
Yeah.
And it's, you know, I think theyprobably are supposed to be the
definition of lovable losers.
They're unemployed.
They live at home.
They just kind of spend theirdays drinking beer and eating
doughnuts.
is what it appears to be.
Is

SPEAKER_00 (58:41):
that not just a Canadian way of life?

SPEAKER_03 (58:44):
Well, that's just it, yeah.
It's not, but that's the...
I didn't know that eating donutswas a Canadian stereotype, but
it's very prominent throughoutthe film.

SPEAKER_00 (58:50):
There are a lot of donuts.
A lot of donuts.
They bribe that lady withdonuts.

SPEAKER_03 (58:54):
And that's why some of these things, I mean, a lot
of things don't hold up, butthat doesn't hold up where it's
like, okay, so they're bribingsomebody who, if we're going to
go down that route, is like a...
more voluptuous, larger.
And so it's like, okay, that'sthe cheap joke is that you can
lure information out of somebodylike that with a donut.

SPEAKER_00 (59:17):
That was, but honestly, in this movie, there
were fewer of those kinds ofjokes than I would have
expected.

SPEAKER_03 (59:24):
Yeah.
I mean, Pamela is a very strongcharacter, although, I mean,
she's very strong until, like, Iguess it makes sense, you know,
when Brewmeister Smith and theuncle incapacitate her.
I got the sense that he was likethe older brewer or whatever,

(59:45):
head brewer for Elsinore.
It's like, why didn't you justkill them?
Because they end up putting themin kegs anyway with the
intention that– I guess they–were going to frame Bob and
Doug.

SPEAKER_00 (01:00:02):
That's exactly it, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (01:00:03):
But they could have just killed them to be assured
that nobody was going to, youknow, because exactly the most
implausible thing happens.

SPEAKER_00 (01:00:13):
If they were able to dress up as Doug and Bob when
they kidnapped them.
Which was actually kind offunny.
Yeah, but if they were able todo that, they could have just
killed them while dressed up asDoug and Bob with the video that
had the timestamp showing thatit was totally not faked.

UNKNOWN (01:00:29):
Right.

SPEAKER_03 (01:00:29):
Which is hilarious when they're in the courtroom
and the uncle makes a point ofsaying that and Brumeister-Smith
just does the whole, like...

SPEAKER_00 (01:00:36):
Max Ronsonau is just having this look on his face
like, what the

SPEAKER_03 (01:00:39):
fuck, man?
Like, you fucking idiot.

SPEAKER_00 (01:00:41):
Shut up about it.

SPEAKER_03 (01:00:42):
But that actually brings up my absolute favorite
part of the entire film, whichis...
The supernatural component.

SPEAKER_00 (01:00:52):
There's no scientific explanation for this.

SPEAKER_03 (01:00:54):
I love...
And then that is anotherlegitimate Hamlet connection.
Yes.
Because the ghost of his fathervisits him.
Yeah.
And tries to alert him to what'shappened.
And I do love so much thatPamela's father does the same
thing via...

(01:01:15):
Initially...
Initially via a video game, anarcade game.
Yep.
And then it goes well beyondthat where like he does somewhat
materialize, but he materializesin like an electronic form kind
of.

SPEAKER_01 (01:01:31):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (01:01:32):
Can't talk, which I think that does...
adhere to Hamlet's story.
I don't think his father cantalk.

SPEAKER_00 (01:01:40):
So it's like vision?
I think so.

SPEAKER_03 (01:01:42):
I haven't read my Hamlet in a while either.

SPEAKER_00 (01:01:45):
Yeah, I haven't.
It's been a couple weeks atleast.

SPEAKER_03 (01:01:48):
It's been a couple weeks.
But I think it's the same.
So I do find that superinteresting and I love so much
that they have this commonrefrain of the way that they
show his face on like a videoscreen.
Something about it just like...
I just really like it.
So that to me was super fun.

(01:02:09):
Maybe it's because I just loveanything supernatural.

SPEAKER_00 (01:02:13):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (01:02:13):
Yeah.
So it was kind of a fun part ofit.
I mean, Pamela, I think she isa, again, very competent
character until they basicallyrender her catatonic after the
keg incident.

SPEAKER_00 (01:02:24):
I didn't fully understand that.
I

SPEAKER_03 (01:02:29):
don't know if it was just like she hit her head or
something.

SPEAKER_00 (01:02:32):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (01:02:33):
I

SPEAKER_00 (01:02:34):
thought it was like the second dart they hit her
with did something, but it couldhave just been all of it.
Oh, you're

SPEAKER_03 (01:02:39):
right.
That actually could have been,yes, because I think she was
lucid and was about to tell them

SPEAKER_00 (01:02:46):
what was going to happen.
Yeah, and then Max von Sydow hadlike the sniper tranq dart.

SPEAKER_03 (01:02:52):
Yes, yes.
And for some reason that...
scrambled her brains.

SPEAKER_00 (01:02:57):
And the cop immediately, when she got hit by
it, she just passes out.
And the cop, the detective waslike,

SPEAKER_03 (01:03:02):
all right, she's passed out.
She's chained head.
Um, let's move on.
Let's move on.
So her, the story between herand Rosie is whatever, like he,
he is a very likable character.
Honestly, um, Yeah, he's great.
I love this character.
Depending on what we're talkingabout in the movie, more likable
than the brothers.
Yeah.

(01:03:22):
Sometimes the brothers are alittle too much.

SPEAKER_00 (01:03:24):
It was a little Big Trouble in Little China-esque
where they weren't even reallythe main characters.
He was the protagonist alongwith Pamela.

SPEAKER_03 (01:03:33):
You're absolutely right.
So I don't honestly knowwhich...
Okay, so in terms of story, ifwe're trying to break it down,
they need to get their dad beer.
And they want it, of course,themselves.

SPEAKER_01 (01:03:47):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (01:03:47):
They don't have money.
The dad's not going to give themany more money.
They don't have jobs.
So they don't have any money.

SPEAKER_00 (01:03:52):
Apparently, the store that they went to, they
had to just make that upthemselves because the actual
beer store, which wasn't calledthe beer store.
In the movie, they called it thebeer store.
But the real life one thatwouldn't let them do that then
later changed their name to thebeer store.

SPEAKER_03 (01:04:08):
Oh, interesting.

SPEAKER_00 (01:04:11):
But yeah, I thought that just looked a really
interesting way of purchasingbeer.

SPEAKER_03 (01:04:15):
The whole setup was...
Really?
That's one of those things whereI'm like, that's definitely over
our head.
Maybe that is like a Canadianthing.
I felt bad because it did seemlike they were very much using a
real mouse in a beer can, beerbottle.
And so that's what they claim.
Like, oh, I found this mouse inmy beer.

(01:04:36):
We want free beer.

SPEAKER_00 (01:04:37):
So we heard like you get like a free case, eh?

SPEAKER_03 (01:04:40):
You're really good at that.
So the guy's like, fuck off.
If you want free beer, go to thebrewery.
So they do.
That's when...
They somewhat take their fakecomplaint seriously.
So they end up becoming Laverneand Shirley and get jobs on the
line to check the beer for mice.

(01:05:01):
Quality

SPEAKER_00 (01:05:02):
assurance.
Quality assurance.
Yes.

SPEAKER_03 (01:05:03):
So that's when that happens.
But then...
they go into some backroom wherethey kind of figure out
Brewmeister Smith's master planto control the human race
through contaminated beer.

SPEAKER_00 (01:05:17):
Yeah, I wasn't really sure what his endgame was
there.

SPEAKER_03 (01:05:19):
Yeah, but I was saying it's like a funny, like
a...
A less thought out version ofthe Samuel L.
Jackson character from TheKingsman because it's kind of
the same thing.

SPEAKER_00 (01:05:28):
Yeah, it is.
It is a little bit.
Yeah.
Because you're

SPEAKER_03 (01:05:30):
controlling them.
Yeah.
You're controlling behavior withsomething that's like,
apparently just everybody in theworld is going to drink Elsinore
beer.

SPEAKER_00 (01:05:38):
And then listen to like a...
Yeah, I don't

SPEAKER_03 (01:05:42):
know how they were going to blast that out across
the world, but anyway.

SPEAKER_00 (01:05:46):
It's all the organ music that all the Canadians
would hear at hockey games,apparently.
Oh,

SPEAKER_03 (01:05:50):
maybe.
Yeah.
I don't know.
That's when they're put on trialbecause they're so fucking
bizarre.
The judge declares a mistrialand sends them to that insane

(01:06:13):
asylum.

SPEAKER_00 (01:06:14):
Where they just start doing steamrollers on each
other.

SPEAKER_03 (01:06:16):
It actually was funny.
And then, oh, my God.
This is where I kind of losetrack.
So, like, Brewmeister Smith, Iguess, is going to try to kill
all of them.

SPEAKER_00 (01:06:29):
Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (01:06:31):
Uh, he specifically tries to kill Bob and Pamela by
putting them in this room.
And then the, the, the idea ishe's going to drown them in
beer.

SPEAKER_00 (01:06:40):
Yes.
Yes.
That is what, that is what wasgoing to happen.

SPEAKER_03 (01:06:45):
Okay.
However, what does happen?

SPEAKER_00 (01:06:48):
Rick Moranis first pees in the beer.

SPEAKER_03 (01:06:50):
Oh my God, it's

SPEAKER_00 (01:06:51):
so gross.

SPEAKER_01 (01:06:52):
At first,

SPEAKER_00 (01:06:52):
they were gonna wait for the beer to fill up so they
could maybe just like treadwater, float all the way up to
the port and open it up, getout.
Instead, he pees in it firstbecause Pam is like, did it just
suddenly get warmer?
Ugh.
And then he drinks all the beer.

SPEAKER_03 (01:07:10):
Yes, that's why it's so fucking gross.

SPEAKER_00 (01:07:12):
But honestly, like a whole giant vat of beer, you
probably wouldn't even noticethe difference.

SPEAKER_03 (01:07:19):
It's so gross.
Anyway, and I think maybe that'swhy that scene sticks in my
head.
Because maybe even as a kid, Iwas like, that is fucking
disgusting.
Yeah,

SPEAKER_00 (01:07:28):
he's giant.
It's like in a movie where notmuch makes sense, that scene.
somehow even stretches thelimits.
Yes.

SPEAKER_03 (01:07:37):
Of even what's been established as reality in that
movie.

SPEAKER_00 (01:07:40):
But then watching everyone try to get him out and
whenever anyone would like touchhim near like his like lower
abdomen, you just hear him golike, oh, don't touch me there.
Jesus.

SPEAKER_03 (01:07:51):
So I guess the brewery catches on fire.
He puts it out with his pee.

SPEAKER_00 (01:07:56):
What he did in two minutes would have taken them
two hours.

SPEAKER_03 (01:07:59):
Yes.

SPEAKER_00 (01:08:00):
I think is what the firefighters say.

SPEAKER_03 (01:08:03):
However, Brewmeister Smith has already sent the
contaminated beer to someOktoberfest.
So then that's when, I mean,this is when it gets even more
bizarre.
They decide the way to save theday is to put a white stripe
down...
Their

SPEAKER_00 (01:08:22):
dog, Hosehead.
Their

SPEAKER_03 (01:08:23):
Hosehead.

SPEAKER_00 (01:08:23):
Yes.

SPEAKER_03 (01:08:24):
And apparently they know that this dog flies.

SPEAKER_00 (01:08:27):
Well, I don't know if they even knew that, but...
They show him a map.
So I think they expected him tofollow the map, not as the crow
flies kind of thing.
But they paint the stripes sothat he looks like a skunk.
They tell him how to get there.
I think they promise himsausages and beer.

SPEAKER_01 (01:08:45):
Okay.

SPEAKER_00 (01:08:45):
Which we know that Hosehead loves beer and all dogs
love sausages.
So then he takes off running andfucking flies and sprouts a
cape.

SPEAKER_03 (01:08:54):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (01:08:55):
and flies to the Oktoberfest.
It is,

SPEAKER_03 (01:08:57):
it is just a bonkers fucking movie.

SPEAKER_00 (01:09:00):
We don't often go through like this much of the,
of the actual like plot andstory, but I feel like it's
necessary just to get out howcrazy I need to get this out of
my head somehow.
That's

SPEAKER_03 (01:09:10):
why I literally opened by saying this is the
fever dream of a movie.

SPEAKER_00 (01:09:14):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (01:09:15):
Because it is so off the wall.
The fact that a major, majorminor studio like MGM backed it
is kind of insane.
Uh, It would never be madetoday.
Can

SPEAKER_00 (01:09:28):
you imagine if it was a David Lynch movie?
How much weirder it could havegot?

SPEAKER_03 (01:09:32):
That's interesting.
I mean, yeah.
But even today, I mean, not toget too serious about it, but
many high-profile independentdirectors like Jim Jarmusch and
stuff have said they just can'tget anything funded anymore.
So even, I think, if you werestill

SPEAKER_00 (01:09:50):
with us...
I have no idea how a movie likethis would be made today,

SPEAKER_03 (01:09:53):
yeah.
Yeah.
Like, it's just insanity thatthey threw money at this movie
to get made.
I

SPEAKER_00 (01:09:58):
mean, look, the fall guy got made.
Yeah.
And that made very little sense.

SPEAKER_03 (01:10:03):
Yeah.
Well, so that's pretty much it.
So then Hosehead saves the daybecause everybody's like, oh, my
God, a skunk.
And

SPEAKER_00 (01:10:13):
they take off.
Because it's a giant skunk.
Because it's a giant skunk.
Hosehead proceeds to just eattables of sausages.
I'm sure that's going to endwell.

SPEAKER_03 (01:10:22):
And then they like give the beer to Bob and like
the brothers to drink.

SPEAKER_00 (01:10:28):
The brothers ask Rosie about the actual like,
hey, is it like poison or like,can we just take this and drink
it?
And he's like, well, not really.
They're like beauty.
And they hop in the truck andtake off credits.

SPEAKER_03 (01:10:41):
Credits.

SPEAKER_00 (01:10:42):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (01:10:43):
And Rosie and Pamela live happily ever after as well.
Yep.
Oh, yeah.
One thing we're overlooking iswhat happens to the uncle?
I just remember him beingcovered in, like, shipping
stickers or something like that.
The...
Brewmeister Smith dies becausethe father essentially gets his

(01:11:04):
revenge because BrewmeisterSmith falls upon a, like, light
board of, like, the UnitedStates and it electrocutes him.

SPEAKER_00 (01:11:13):
And the uncle is...
basically assaulted by thepatients that were

SPEAKER_01 (01:11:19):
like, Oh,

SPEAKER_00 (01:11:20):
okay.
Right.
That were dressing up for thehockey, for the crazy hockey
games.
Okay.
And they, they, they treat himpretty easily.
Actually.
Like he doesn't.
Yeah.
I mean,

SPEAKER_03 (01:11:32):
the reason why these things are all like, Oh yeah,
that's right.
And this, this happens, thishappened because it's not, it's
not really a coherent film.
It actually, again, it's a feverdream.
It's fun.
It's have it on at a party.
Um, It's a hard film to like sitdown.
It actually, you know, we talkall the time about how many
films we just kept playing inthe background and that it's

(01:11:53):
always interesting when wefinally get the chance, even for
films we think we know reallywell, to like sit down and just
focus on it and watch it fromstart to finish.
This is definitely a film thatis much better, I think,
ingested when you're not tryingto just concentrate on it and
sit down and focus solely on it.

SPEAKER_00 (01:12:11):
Yeah, it was.
Like I think I mentioned before,like you kind of get like
this...
Like comedy fatigue.

SPEAKER_01 (01:12:17):
Yes.

SPEAKER_00 (01:12:17):
Which is kind of what I felt watching Airplane,
honestly.
Some of these movies, theruntime makes it difficult to
stay invested with jokes, justthe pace of the jokes.
And this, honestly, not manymovies really match the pace at
which you're hit with jokes likeAirplane.

SPEAKER_01 (01:12:34):
Absolutely.

SPEAKER_00 (01:12:35):
But this one just...
because you couldn't really tellwhere it was going because so
much of it didn't make muchsense.
You're like, I don't know.
The end could be in like fiveminutes or three hours.
I have no idea.
Totally agree with you.
And that is kind of how itended.
Like it just ended.
And then like you hear the musicand you're like, I guess it's
over.

SPEAKER_03 (01:12:53):
And that's it.

SPEAKER_00 (01:12:56):
Thank you for listening.

SPEAKER_03 (01:12:58):
So call to action.
I mean...
I honestly like I don't thinkthis is a super obscure film,
but I am curious how many peopleare familiar with it and

SPEAKER_00 (01:13:10):
like what their thoughts are.
I think a lot of people areaware of it, but probably fewer
people have like sat down andwatched the whole damn thing.
Especially recently.

SPEAKER_03 (01:13:19):
So we would love to hear what you have to say about
it.
If you want to reach out.
You can reach out throughInstagram, Facebook, or Blue
Sky.
Oh,

SPEAKER_00 (01:13:30):
wow.
I feel like there may have beenone that you used to say that
you didn't say again.

SPEAKER_03 (01:13:33):
We are now on Blue Sky, no longer X.
But it is still the same handlefor all three.
So it is at 80s Montage Pod and80s is 80S.

SPEAKER_00 (01:13:46):
Fuck those hosers.

SPEAKER_03 (01:13:48):
Yeah, big time.
So sneak peek.
Per usual for this season, Ihave not told you what

SPEAKER_01 (01:13:56):
the next film was going to be.

SPEAKER_00 (01:13:57):
I was going to ask you before we started recording,
but I realized I would have justforgot by the time we are going
through the whole thing.
So no, I have no idea.

SPEAKER_03 (01:14:06):
Well, I don't think this is going to be much help at

SPEAKER_00 (01:14:09):
all.
Perfect.
That's my favorite kind of clue.

SPEAKER_03 (01:14:11):
Okay, so moving from one critically acclaimed
Shakespearean adaptation toanother.
Oh,

SPEAKER_00 (01:14:19):
okay.
Okay.
Hmm.
Is that the clue?

SPEAKER_03 (01:14:22):
Yeah, but you almost certainly are not going to get
it off of it.
Oh, man.
It's another very tenuousconnection to a Shakespeare
play.
I

SPEAKER_00 (01:14:31):
will.
I'm going to need a little more.

SPEAKER_03 (01:14:37):
Okay.
So, oh, my gosh.
His name.
What's his name?
Johnny Lawrence, but the actualactor.
Zapka?

SPEAKER_00 (01:14:47):
From Cobra Kai?

SPEAKER_03 (01:14:48):
Yes.
So, this is part of the WilliamZabka trilogy of bullies.
If those two clues can get.
So.

SPEAKER_00 (01:14:59):
Is it Can't Buy Me Love?
No.
Oh, damn.

SPEAKER_03 (01:15:02):
But you are, like, you're getting warm.
You're getting warm.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So, teen flick.

SPEAKER_00 (01:15:08):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (01:15:09):
So, very, very, very loose Shakespearean adaptation.
William Zabka is.
Okay.
And, okay, so let me think of athird clue.
And then that's all I got.
Then you're going to have totake a shot.
Well, I guess you did take ashot with Can't Buy My Love.
High school film.
Well, I guess you would assumeso.

(01:15:30):
I guess you would assume so.
With William Zabka.

SPEAKER_00 (01:15:34):
What is the movie?

SPEAKER_03 (01:15:38):
Just One of the Guys.

SPEAKER_00 (01:15:40):
Oh, I was not going to get that.
Okay.
All right.

SPEAKER_03 (01:15:43):
This is one that, again...
Wait, what?

SPEAKER_00 (01:15:48):
Never seen it.

SPEAKER_03 (01:15:48):
I am just learning this information right now.

SPEAKER_00 (01:15:51):
Yeah, I'm aware of it.
I've probably seen clips, butI've never seen the whole thing.

SPEAKER_03 (01:15:54):
Holy shit.
Okay.
Yeah, this is another one ofthose.
Actually, I have a very clearmemory of when I saw this
because I saw this with myfamily and it was a super
embarrassing moment seeing itwith them.
It's

SPEAKER_00 (01:16:08):
like when I watch Tropic Thunder with my family.

SPEAKER_03 (01:16:11):
Yeah, unlocking another core memory of
embarrassment.
Just one of the guys.
So this one is, I mean, at leastStrange Brew includes names and
plot lines.
Well, okay, Just One of the Guysincludes plot lines too.

(01:16:32):
But it's like they have directpulls in Strange Brew like
Elsinore

SPEAKER_01 (01:16:36):
and things like that.
Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (01:16:37):
Just One of the Guys is a very, very loose adaptation
of Twelfth Night.

SPEAKER_01 (01:16:41):
Oh.
Yeah.
Okay.
So,

SPEAKER_03 (01:16:44):
all to say, gonna be super problematic, probably.
Oh,

SPEAKER_00 (01:16:49):
very much.
Especially

SPEAKER_03 (01:16:50):
the brother.
The brother in this movie issuper problematic.

SPEAKER_00 (01:16:53):
Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (01:16:55):
But you haven't seen it, right?

SPEAKER_00 (01:16:56):
No, but I know the concept of it, so I can only
assume it's gonna be like, oh,there's gonna be, hmm, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (01:17:02):
But it's gonna be, I think, fun to talk about.
So, on that note, thank you toeveryone for...
Yeah.
I am overwhelmed by the numberof podcasts because I love
listening to podcasts.

(01:17:23):
And there's so many out there.
There's

SPEAKER_00 (01:17:24):
so many.
Take off those.
There's so

SPEAKER_03 (01:17:26):
many.
And you're way better at thatthan I am.
So thank you for making thechoice to listen to ours.
We really appreciate it.
And we will talk to you again intwo weeks' time.