Match Me Abroad, S2 E08

Victoria has her tattoo date with Darren and trauma dumps on him. Sarah goes on a date with a rich man who meets her expectations, on paper. Tony has a date with Marina, who reminds him of his ex. Amber goes to lunch with Glenn’s family.

 

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(00:00):
Hi Amy, happy Match Me Abroad Season 2 episode 8 was on a
couple of nights ago. We are here to discuss.
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(00:20):
Shall we just dive right in? Yes, please.
OK, Victoria, What's happening with her?
Ho Lord, this was fun and cringyat the same time.
Cringy. Absolutely they are.
She and Darren are going on their date for matching tattoos.
Such an absurd idea for a date but OK.

(00:40):
But on board. Date was absurd to begin with.
Watching him do his comedy show and then having a discussion
after in the middle of the audience.
Yes, but she seems to get off onthese types of odd dates.
She did mention at some point that she's really into the
spontaneity of this tattoo date,which you had mentioned last
time. And I get it.

(01:01):
It is out of the ordinary and itis spontaneous and fun.
I just these tattoos are not good.
I can appreciate the fact that they'd chosen a design that, I
mean, it wasn't just something off the wall.
It was somewhat personal for her.
But I thought it was strange that they were choosing styles

(01:23):
of ghosts. Phrase I never thought would
come out of my mouth, but these styles of ghosts that reflected
the best parts of their personality or something to that
effect. And hers had a boob job.
And his had no boob job, which means what?
Well she said that his was his stand up comedy.
So how did the ghost that he chose reflect his comedy?

(01:46):
Because it didn't even hold a microphone.
And then the other goes with theboob job.
Is that her personality? Where's herself esteem at that
that? Is part of her personality.
Maybe I could just be completelymisremembering her reasonings
behind it, but anyway, boob job was involved it.
Baffled me. There's nothing about this date

(02:08):
that I could relate to, especially when she starts
explaining about her dad being in jail for drugs.
Both her parents are dead. She's trauma dumping you,
Darren. Yes, and he has this look in his
eyes like he's completely overwhelmed.
You would think, having had however many hundreds of first
dates as Victoria claims she hashad, that she would know that

(02:31):
this is not really the best approach when you first meet
somebody to unload all of your personal trauma onto them and
give them information that they would otherwise not request or
need. It was.
It was way too much all at once.And she was saying, normally
when she talks about it, people shut down.
And it's maybe because you give them too much at once.

(02:54):
Yes, perhaps. My father was a drug addict.
He had issues with the law. My mother is also Pat.
You know, just like condensing it.
You don't need to give the greatdetails of it, although I was
relishing in the details. I thought her life story based
on what she told was so interesting.
Not from a date perspective but as an observer.

(03:16):
And OK, so I'd like to correct myself.
We were talking about the tattoos and she was talking
about aspects of her, not her personality aspects job.
And then his was the comedy and something to do with the Harry
Styles song, which I didn't havethe opportunity to look into.
But anyway. So she trauma dumps.

(03:37):
Her dad died in an OD. She doesn't mention how her mom
died. But my heart broke for this
woman. Like, that's a lot of trauma for
a kid to go through, and I can understand her need and want to,
especially because Katarina was encouraging her to express

(03:58):
herself and to be more vulnerable.
I just think this was a bit much.
I agree. I think she should have just
dialed it back a bit. And then what I think was even
more flooring is the fact that Darren said that he'd never been
to a funeral before. That was astonishing, wasn't it?
How do you make it to what is he20?

(04:19):
27, I think, yeah, 27. How do you make it to the age
without ever having been to a? Funeral.
I don't know. I know because his entire family
are vampires. Well, that's an interesting
perspective. And you know, the ghosts and
whatever. Yeah, maybe there is a
supernatural element here. I had not considered that.

(04:40):
I don't know, I just, I think itwas a bit much for her.
I can appreciate the fact that she stepped out of her comfort
zone though. Her being so vulnerable and
sharing that much information I think made him feel comfortable
enough to share the fact that his family is nothing but chaos.
Talking about the wedding and how certain family members have

(05:00):
to be separated because of the drama, it almost gave them not
like an even playing ground, butthat comfort level to be able to
share that information. Because I think it would be
strange if you walked into a quote UN quote normal family,
her walking into a quote UN quote normal family with her
amount of trauma and then Oh no,we everyone's still alive and we
don't get along. Yes, I can see that.

(05:22):
I thought Darren recovered really well after she told him
what she told him about her family and it was nice that he
was sharing equally with her as well.
But this is where I felt things fell apart a little bit is
because even though this conversation does show us that
they have things in common, I felt as though it took all of

(05:44):
the romanticism, the romantic nature out of the date.
I felt like all of the potentialsparks, potential chemistry
between these two was eliminatedby this conversation.
It felt flat to me after this point.
It could also be because they were both digesting the stories
that they had told and getting atattoo.

(06:05):
I always feel exhausted after getting a tattoo so that could
have had something to do with it.
I thought their connection seemed really great.
Whether or not I made that comment before or after the
tattoos, I can't say. But I thought what was really
nice would he said something to the effect of she's had a really
difficult past, Be it she's still so, so positive and fun.

(06:27):
And I thought that was really cute that he could see through
the trauma and like he wasn't scared by it.
Is it? Absolutely.
Yeah, that totally makes sense. And it was good the way that he
responded to her by saying things like I can see us having
a future together, like he stillbelieves that they have a

(06:47):
connection at the things can go in a positive direction from
this point. I just as a viewer, I didn't
feel it. I am, I am happy to be wrong if
in the next few episodes that wesee her in, she does indeed
develop a connection with Darren.
I just got the impression that there is no substance here.

(07:07):
It's it's all about the getting a tattoo together experience and
nothing more. Could be almost like the
downfall after the Mania or the like the excitement of getting
the matching tattoos and or, youknow, the adrenaline.
Yeah, maybe all of that. That's that's what we're seeing

(07:30):
is that come down, yes. And that totally makes sense in
light of the comment that he made, which was just a throw
away joke at the end where he said, oh, I'll see you in a
couple weeks for laser removal. He's saying that to the tattoo
artist. I remember that.
Yeah, OK, that's a joke. I realize that I would.

(07:51):
I would not be surprised. And I thought it was strange.
I don't know if this was before or after his comment, but she
said that she wants to take it slow and steady.
And I let out one of those like,aha, what?
You're taking it slow and steadywith matching tattoos.
It would be different if, you know, she got the one with the

(08:11):
boob job and he got the other one.
But because they had them together, how was that slow and
steady? And how was it slow and steady
to get such large tattoos? Why not get something small and
discreet that is just a little little thing hidden away?
No, we have to get this massive tattoo on our leg fully visible,

(08:34):
which is just a bizarre image. Massive.
That is your perspective. OK, yes, my perspective.
It's no I I agree with you. It, it was a larger size tattoo,
they could have gone with something smaller, maybe
something that they could hide. That wouldn't be, I mean, she
put hers on the front of her leg, so she's going to be

(08:54):
walking with that leg forward. Yeah.
Anyway, So I, I agree with it. I disagree with it.
I don't know. Whatever works with them, I I'm
looking forward to seeing how this develops.
If it does develop, I hope for her that it works out because we
did see that chemistry with them.

(09:16):
And if it doesn't work out, she has a fun story and the lions
are thin enough on the tattoos that it can it can be covered
relatively easily. OK, let's leave them there and
let's move on to Sarah. God this was so funny.
As I'm looking at my notes, the amount of ella, ella, ella,

(09:36):
ella, ella, ella. It was hilarious.
And I want to know, as Sarah asked, did Dolly do this
deliberately? Was it a decision on her part to
make Sarah see how bad it is just to go out with a guy based
on his income, perceived income?Do you think she set her up or

(10:00):
do you think she genuinely put her with somebody that she
thought she would match with? No, I think she definitely set
her up. She's like, you want someone
with money, I'll show you some with money, someone with money.
And when nothing else in that Rolls Royce, I was just like,
please don't come after me for infringement.

(10:21):
He has money. She keeps going on about how hot
he is. He's in finance and fitness.
He's very complimentary of her, but to the point that it made me
feel uncomfortable. Me too.
I couldn't stand it. The way that he kept talking
about how good looking she was, how beautiful she was and same
in reverse. Although her comments were to

(10:41):
the camera in her personal interview, not to him.
Both of them were completely focused on the physical at
first. Both of them.
And I thought it was interestingthat when they got into the
little train or whatever it was and he was pouring her beverage.
He he says normally I have a waiter for this.

(11:01):
Yeah. Hey.
Don't we all have waiters when we go to a restaurant?
I don't think he was specifically saying that he has
a personal Butler who follows him around and pours his drinks
for him. At least I hope not.
I don't think that is what he was saying.
I think he just means that he pays for people to do things
and. Charming.

(11:23):
I feel like Dolly had given her exactly what she had asked for,
but in the most extreme sense ofthe word.
To be showered with compliments.A man who clearly has money,
although I don't know how much it is to rent rules, but he to
me he does exude money. Like he's super cocky, he's

(11:45):
overly confident, he has teeth that are too big for his face.
And the way that he he shows herpictures of himself in just what
is it called? A mankini?
No, a Speedo, A budgie smuggler.He shows her pictures of himself
wearing next to nothing almost immediately to show off not just

(12:07):
his ABS and his looks, but also the fact that he has this
ex-girlfriend from Thailand, which he's talks about almost
nonstop. He has zero game.
It's really funny that his only game is I'm a rich guy.
Other than that, there was nothing she.
Even said he has an 8 pack. OK, great.

(12:28):
I've met guys with eight packs with 0 personality and this
guy's seems to have zero personality outside of his money
and his fitness. And I at first I thought, well,
maybe this is going to be great because she has nothing up there
mentally. But she proved me wrong within a

(12:49):
very short period of time because, you know, he goes on
about how he's a cheater. He thinks he's probably out of
his whole phase and I thought she goes along with this, then
she's a 100% in it for the money, but then she comes out
and she says he's too much for me is.
This before or after the porn commentary asking her what her

(13:14):
body count was and coming out with all of those absolutely
disgusting questions that were so invasive and horrible.
So this comment my notes, yes, he's too much for me.
Is he? Because he is exactly what you
wanted and then it comes out that he was a porn star.

(13:35):
And no, I don't know. No, he was not a porn star.
He said. He looked into the porn industry
because he was such a horny bugger.
So that to me means he was looking into it as a means to
have a lot of sex. But he never actually achieved
getting employed. So but he thinks this is a brag
to talk about his interest in becoming a porn star, which he

(13:58):
did not actually succeed at. That is what I got from it.
And also his sexual proclivity because he specifies that he
lasts long. OK, Sir, that's not typically,
that's not whatever woman wants.We don't need you to last for
two hours. That that can get old very
quickly. Chafing occurs.

(14:19):
And then when he asked her her body count, Oh my God, rude.
First of all, I hate that term. When I was younger, that was
never a thing. You know, wanting to know how
many people that you've slept with is one thing.
But now having that term body count just immediately makes me

(14:39):
think in cell. And I think it was one of her
interviews. She said, you know, she wanted
to meet a crazy rich Asian and her expectations were so high
the way think that she needs to add definitions to crazy rich
Asian. And she even says he's a bit too
crazy for me. OK, we'll define what your your

(15:00):
parameters of the crazy is because I think Dolly hit this
one right on the head. But again, I think Dolly knew
that he was so over the top thatshe wanted to test Sarah to see
if she was just in it for the money or if there is more
involved. And Sarah proved me wrong
because she said this isn't the kind of person that I want to

(15:21):
have a family with. Right.
So I've got the impression that Sean is an F boy.
That was my first impression. And then as we go along more in
the date and he's asking the inappropriate questions like her
body count, he's bragging about being interested in the porn
industry, he's bragging about how long he lasts all yuck, all

(15:44):
of that stuff which nobody wantsto hear, especially on a first
date. I thought perhaps there is an in
cell element here because he when he presented her with the
99 roses and then said to her, you're going to have to work
extra hard to get the last one, the 100th rose.
I was like, what kind of a person says that to you on a

(16:06):
first date? That's horrific.
You don't have to pass any tests.
You don't have to prove yourselfto somebody.
And for him to sit there and say, oh, you're going to have to
work hard to get it. The implications of that are
just so gross. It.
Feels to me like he does not know anything about women.
He doesn't know how to treat them, he doesn't understand

(16:28):
them. He has not had a successful
relationship with them and yeah,just get away.
Which is a phenomenal segue intoour next in cell.
I don't even know if I'm using that term properly.
I apologize to the listeners if I am using it incorrectly,
although I'm really hope that mydescriptions are enough to

(16:50):
define what I mean. OK and Incel is a member of an
online community of young men who consider themselves unable
to attract women sexually typically as associated with
views that are hostile towards women and men who are sexually
active. So is he hostile towards women?
Tony is definitely Sean. It's borderline.

(17:11):
Yeah, OK. Anyway, let's just talk about
unfortunately, Tony. OK, unfortunately, Tony, but you
have to admit, the crew is doingsuch a spectacular job of
trolling him in every episode. In this one, it was when he was
drinking the honey and then pumping himself up in front of
the mirror. Oh my God.

(17:31):
And then choking on the honey. Oh, it took too much.
Oh my God, it's just absolutely brilliant.
Brilliant, does he not? Captured.
Can you not just take a spoonfulof honey?
No, no, no, no. Because.
He's a manly man, he's going to drink it straight from the glass

(17:52):
whole. Shot that was just so like it
was it was a lot and his affect when he was talking about it.
I finally hate his affect is typically very fat flat.
He's just he's so dull. He seems to have almost like a
lack of personality. He irritates me to no end but

(18:12):
this. Is why I love the crew and I
love the way they're presenting Tony because they're showing us
these moments when he's doing self affirmations in front of
the mirror, which are supposed to be a sign of self-confidence
and self love. But really what they're doing is
they're just proving to us that Tony is filled filled with self
doubt and self loathing, completely insecure.

(18:35):
Then he goes On this date with Marina.
Poor, poor Marina. He walks right past her.
Yes. Are you Marina?
Are you Marina? I'm really I'm.
I'm surprised that he didn't askthe instructor if he was Marina.
Again, brilliant editing. They could have cut this out to
save Tony's face from looking like an idiot who's going around

(18:58):
asking random women if they are Marina, but they kept it in for
our pleasure. I thought that was so great
because even, and I completely agree with you on on the editing
thing because they showed her I was like, wow, she's gorgeous.
She could have just been a womanwho was sitting on the side
waiting for for her session. And then all of a sudden, oh hi,

(19:19):
I'm Marina. And it turns out that she does
Muay Thai and yet they're doing Jiu jitsu.
Yeah. I think, OK, first of all, she
obviously has a lot of confidence.
She's very strong mentally and physically.
I thought this was an excellent quote UN quote match.
You know what I did there for him, though?

(19:44):
I found it quite physical for a first aid on my opinion.
Yeah, me too. I don't.
I would never want to touch him,let alone anyone else on a first
date. And I wondered if he was going
to feel emasculated On this datebecause she does do jiu jitsu so

(20:04):
she has a lot more experience inmartial arts.
But I felt like he had taken that opportunity to take control
and be like, oh, are you comfortable with this?
But not like not asking for her consent, but just kind of like
feeling it out. Like, oh, does that hurt?
I could make it hurt more, not like in an abusive kind of way,

(20:25):
to be clear. But I like, I think he likes the
control. So I think he actually really
enjoyed this. And it seemed as though when
they were talking after the practice or the lesson or
whatever, that he had a lot morepersonality.
He had lightened up quite a bit.He wasn't nearly as dull,

(20:45):
though. He continued to be an absolute
Dick, for lack of a better term.He was asking, you know, do you
have any kids? No, but I have a dog.
OK, great. Do you let your dog sleep in the
bed? OK, wait, wait.
Sorry, I'm gonna jump in. Yeah, we haven't even talked
about the looks thing and I think that's critical to talk

(21:06):
about that before we talk about the dog sleeping in the bed
because there is this issue you around her looks she resembles.
So he says his ex-girlfriend. I'm like OK, having somebody
look like an ex is not automatically a bad thing and I
didn't think it was going to turn into a bad thing.

(21:27):
But apparently for Tony, you canhave somebody who's absolutely
beautiful and fits every single criteria that he's asked for,
physically at least, and she's still not good enough, which
astounded me. I think he's ridiculous and I, I
think his ex had rejected him and he projected his

(21:48):
insecurities and his hurt from that rejection on to her.
And that's why he was like, absolutely not.
I'm not going to put myself in that position again.
Well. We don't we don't know that we
don't know why they broke up, but he does draw this
correlation not just between their looks, but then also
between his ex-girlfriend and Marina's behavior when it comes
to the dog sleeping in the bed. But not just the dog sleeping in

(22:11):
the bed, but the woman saying that the dog is like, like
notice the word like her baby. This part drove me cuckoo for
cocoa puffs completely. I wanted to RIP my hair out.
What kind of a person finds fault with another human being

(22:31):
enjoying the company of an animal to the extent where they
consider that animal to be a member of their family?
And as as he was talking about that I remember was it Louisa
the matchmaker's name? She had said that he has issues
with disconnecting looks from the personality and all of a

(22:54):
sudden now she is his ex-girlfriend.
So you know that's an axe against her.
Now she has a dog which equates to a child, and sleeping with
your dog equates to low self esteem.
He draws all kinds of weird parallels and connections for
these women that he perceives tobe lacking whenever he finds

(23:18):
that they have an animal and theanimal is close to them and the
animal sleeps in the bed with them at night.
Like of all the things to find fault with in another human
being, this is just utterly ridiculous.
Oh he is 100% nitpicking. But then he gets into this like
hurricane of assumptions about women who have dogs who sleep in

(23:41):
their bed, He says. I did research on it women who
sleep in bed with dogs. It demonstrates that women have
low self esteem. What psychological?
Journals did you read in order to come up with?
That assessment. And then I thought, well,
perhaps this is the answer to the question that you and I have
been asking, which is what is his career?
Maybe he's a psychologist. Maybe he knows this because of

(24:04):
all of his vast training in psychology and behavior.
And then how is it that you're taking this instinct that a
person will have to look after an animal, a pet, as a negative
thing in their lives? Like if you're looking after a
pet, that's a parental instinct.And he says he's looking for a

(24:28):
woman who wants to have children.
He wants to be a dad. That is a great signal to you
that that person is good mother,father material.
If they have a pet that they treat like a child, that they
love dearly, that they care for,that they allow to sleep
wherever the pet wants to, it really doesn't matter.
To me that shows that they they have that capacity to look after

(24:50):
another being whether it has furor hair or no hair like Tony
tattooed. Hair it's he comes across as the
kind of guy who only wants to have male children yes continue
his lineage and he's also the kind of guy who would call

(25:11):
watching his own children babysitting yes.
And then like quickly going backto the whole her looking like
his ex. Was he supposed to provide
Louisa with pictures of his ex girlfriends any woman he's ever
desired and say please don't setme up with anyone who looks like
this. This man is completely and

(25:33):
utterly insufferable. Well remember he did want to see
pictures of the women before he was consenting to go out with it
on a date with them. So had he seen a picture of
Marina first, perhaps he would have said Oh no, she looks too
much like my ex. This will not work.
Whatever Tony. The conversation that he has
with Louisa after the date was the juiciest.

(25:57):
Abhorrent, juiciest. It was so filled with stuff that
made me want to scream. Mansplaining.
I have that in in cap. Caps absolutely.
It's the pinnacle of mansplaining and I really
enjoyed the fact that Louisa wasstanding up to him.

(26:18):
She was being firm, she was being strong.
And yet there is this moment when he says, you've never met
anybody like me before, which was not, not not the brag that
you think it is, Tony. And she says, actually, I have
my I was in a relationship with somebody like you.
My ex-boyfriend was like you. And that made me think, oh, like

(26:40):
you poor thing, Louisa to have dealt with this.
But then we see in the next moment how he's saying to her,
well, you should be apologizing for calling me difficult.
And he's berating her. And she starts shriveling.
She starts shrinking, and her head goes down.
And I'm like, oh, my God. So this is what it was like for
her when she was in the relationship with her version of

(27:02):
Tony. And now she's feeling it all
over again. And yet he's her client.
So she is in a position to be able to fire him, which is so
delicious. Also all in caps locks.
But when she said when she cut him off and she said Oh no, I've
dated a man exactly like you. I thought that was a wonderful
change out. And then he says that she

(27:24):
doesn't understand the male experience.
And then again, you don't understand a woman's experience.
Nope. You don't understand a woman's
perspective. And again, he loves being in
control. And then when she said he gets
this one more opportunity and then she will fire him.

(27:45):
But she also says, you know, it's Tais.
I thought that was a nice 90 dayto match me.
She's 30, she has or she wants children.
Great. But she cut her hair and it's
about the length of her length hers and he's already Pooh

(28:07):
poohing the whole. Idea It was just so wonderful.
His response? Through the history of time,
women with long hair show that they look after themselves and
therefore they can take care of kids.
What? What?
Because I wash my hair, I can look after a kid.
That's the only criteria there is.

(28:28):
I have to have big hips. I have to be curvy.
Not just that, but you have to have long hair.
So the fact that your hair is short means that you are not
capable of raising children, despite the fact that you have a
fully, I was going to say adult child.
He's not an adult, but damn, he's so mature.
But yeah, like. What?
Exactly. You would.

(28:51):
There are no words. It is just so completely
outrageous. I, I have, I have this Little
Dream that from now on, after this show has aired, no women
will consent to date Tony because of how absolutely
disgusting he's behaving. And that somehow some Oracle or

(29:15):
wise person is going to show himthe way and get him into some
kind of remedial dating class sothat he can learn how to treat
people. Not just women, people.
Period. I almost slapped my desk.
Do you know who he needs in his life right now?
Who? Mr. Ark.

(29:36):
Mr. Ark, that would be wonderful.
Oh yes. OK, so for those of our
listeners who aren't aware of who Mr. Ark is, he was a
fatherly figure in Guyana for Niles and.
Matilda, Matilda. He was very poignant with his
perspective on how to treat women and the back door or how

(30:00):
not. And anyway, I, I, I think that
Mister Ark would really put him in his place.
Yeah, Oh yeah, Mr. Ark would be perfect for.
This as that comes out of my mouth.
I wonder if if he was raised by a single mom and he spent his
entire life looking down on his mom because I don't know, Tony
just seems like an absolute something.

(30:25):
I'm tapping my head, but I can'tthink of what it is.
Sure, I don't know. You know, a lot of people,
children grow up with single moms and they appreciate
everything that they've done forthem.
But I wonder if he was raised bya single mom and yet he had some
sort of outside influence that made him judge her and hate her.
I don't know. We don't know his back story.

(30:46):
You know, we're getting a lot ofback story about a lot of the
other people, but nothing about him.
No, no, we don't need the back story.
I don't care. It's not going to excuse his
behavior. No, of course not.
He this guy, he's so narcissistic, pompous, cocky,
self-centered. I really don't like him and I

(31:07):
really think I said this last night about someone I can't
remember who now, but this guys completely overshadowing that.
I just don't want to see Allie Sam and Allie.
I just I don't want to see him ever again though that being
said is I might retract that statement.
I would like to see him again just so we can watch Louisa fire

(31:28):
him. Yes.
The final thought that I wanted to leave you with on the subject
of Tony is when he said about Louisa, she doesn't understand
the male experience. Then why Tony?
Why did you not hire a man matchmaker and not a woman
matchmaker if she was not going to be able to understand your

(31:51):
unique and important experience?I, I wonder when he applied for
the show and they said you're going to be working with a woman
matchmaker. He was like, no, I want, I want
a man. And they said if you want to be
on the show and you want to get paid, you're going to work with

(32:12):
with a woman. And that's the only reason why
he's going through with it. So again, even even though I
never want to see him on the screen again, I want to see him
watch get fired. And I also want to see the
editors continue to show him in the light that they have been
because this has been a joy. Even though he is like, he makes

(32:34):
my skin crawl. All of the things that you've
pointed out have just been so hysterical.
And again with all of my lols, like I actually expect the fact
that I didn't want to see him. I had to keep rewinding it
because I was laughing over all the stupid things that he was
saying, how absurd they were andhow completely out to lunch he
is. Just read on.

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Please. Amber.
Her date was Mr. Ireland, also known as Glenn, continues with
lunch at his parents house. I was relishing in the idea of
this meeting, how is this going to go?
And she even said it's a bit much for a first meeting

(33:15):
however, and they both said it'sa good way to suss each other
out to see how they do. This was a joy.
I think I said that already, butI just, I loved this segment.
It was delightful. Thank you.
Keep using the same words over and over again today.
And much to Amber's joy, to use your word, she finds out that

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Glenn lives on his own, which isbasically her only criteria at
this point. He lives on his own, he's
independent, they're going to meet his parents, his family at
their house. All is good.
And it goes very, very. Well, and he even says, you
know, I want to settle down, I want to get married, I want to
have children. If she's not OK with meeting my

(33:59):
parents right away, then she might not be the one for me.
On one hand, OK, but on the other hand, but much so it was,
it was really intrigued to see what was going to happen with
this. I, I couldn't imagine walking it
couldn't imagine walking into. I mean, they're still on their
first date, right? Yes, it's a good situation the.

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First date and then like I want you to meet my parents like.
I know, but I I love the idea. I think it's great.
It does reveal a lot. I think that they both had the
right perspective. Yes, I think they both
approached it very well with a positive and open spirit, which
was fantastic. Thank you.
Approach, not perspective. But I don't feel like they
progressed anywhere. I don't feel like we got to know

(34:43):
Glenn any better. I still have my opinion of him,
that he's a player, that he's all about the looks and the
superficial. Because we didn't really see
much of him on this episode. It was more so about Amber and
the mom and the dad that it was.That was lovely.
It was lovely. But she's not there to date them
or to be adopted by them. She's there to get to know Glenn

(35:06):
better. They do share the kiss at the
end of the date, which is good, I guess.
Again, I did not feel anything. I'm not getting spark from any
of these people so far. You know what I got from this
episode? Amber is so fun.
She's so light hearted, she's soeasygoing.
His parents kind of skirted the awkward line, You know, the

(35:30):
whole Diana Ross thing and his parents saying he likes petite
women and her saying I don't think he's ever dated a black
woman before. Fair assessment.
You know, maybe he hasn't had the exposure to different
cultures. That might not be his fault.
Maybe there's just a lack thereof in his community or

(35:51):
whatever. But I thought she absolutely
killed this meeting. Whether or not they move
forward, she she was so fun. And then when she talks about
clogging and, and his dad was like, yeah, OK, show us like,
this is a make it or break it. This could be extremely awkward.
And she was so amazing. She was so amazing that his dad

(36:13):
got up and started dancing with her.
And then she started dancing with his mom.
But why did Glenn not stand up and dance with her?
She took it like a champ. Whenever there was a challenge,
she rose to it and she performedextremely well, exceeding all
expectations. She was lovely.
I just didn't feel like there was any depth to this meeting.

(36:35):
I would have felt a little bit more like I knew her and I like
I knew Glenn more, but I feel like I don't I.
Feel like I know her a bit better.
Well, I know she can dance, but,and we already knew she was
bubbly and joyful and fun and upbeat.
But I would say courageous, and she doesn't take herself too

(36:57):
seriously. But maybe he does, I don't know.
If I would say that she doesn't take herself too seriously, I
would. I would say the opposite because
I've seen a lot from her that I felt was just performative of
somebody. Somebody who's putting
themselves out there because they want to be seen and watched
and be the center of attention. So I'm not sure.

(37:17):
I'm not sure about that, but I can see where you're coming
from. The point that really threw me
for a loop at the end of this date is when she said something
like, well, Kivens got a run forhis money or something like
that. Like he's still a contender.
What? How did that happen?
The last time we saw her talkingabout him, they were not

(37:38):
communicating anymore. She'd given up.
And my last note after Oh my God, this is the most wholesome
meeting I think we've ever had, like family meeting.
And I was very impressed. It was Keegan who or Keevan.
Yeah, like what? How is she still bringing
Keevan's name up after not after, not only after this great

(38:00):
date with Glenn, but also said they had stopped communicating,
they were no longer texting or calling each other.
Things had fizzled out after thehotel room make out session or
whatever it was so. What?
I don't, I don't know. Is she keeping her options open?
But I I'm, I'm an option. Him.

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I I don't, I don't know. Yeah, I don't know.
I'm just, I'm weird. I'm really hoping that she's
going to go on another date That's going to go resoundingly
well. You know, there, there were so
many, so many similarities between their personalities at
at the beginning, her and her. And Glenn though he seems like a
dud and she needs so much more. I would like to see them go on a

(38:42):
date where they do something mundane like going for a walk in
the park. How they interact just
one-on-one now because I feel like we need to establish a
better connection between them that is not based around joking
around at a castle slash prison or joking around with my parents
at their house while we dance. I want to see real stuff.

(39:05):
Something of substance because they haven't talked about
anything anything worthwhile. They've just been having fun
together, which is fine. However we've we've seen it with
what was her name with Victoria over sharing versus her with her
not sharing at all. So where is the happy medium?

(39:27):
I mean for for both of them. So I, I, I wonder where this is
going to go. I just thought it was, it was so
fun to see her get along with his, with his parents because
I've seen it so many times whereyou know, you're completely in
love with someone and then his parents don't like you or
whatever. So it's just, it was really nice
to see whether or not they work out.

(39:48):
I thought it was a very, very enjoyable segment.
She seems like so much fun and he seems to lack a lot of
personality. Awesome, I love it.
Maybe his his eyebrows have taken up too much personality on
his face and now he has nothing left.
I need to go, not completely, but I need to be normal.

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