August 18, 2025 • 40 mins
Harold and Amber get intimate with their discussion of relationships and their past. Sarah has a “last chance” date with a new match, EJ. Victoria and Amber meet at a pub to share their dating experiences in Ireland. Amber considers and overnight date with Keavan. Monica has a dreamy date with Bruno, where he makes her dinner and showers her with care and attention.
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Hi Amy, happy we watch Match me Abroad Season 2 episode 9
yesterday. Episode 9.
Yes, I know we're getting towards the end and I don't want
it to end. I want it to keep going.
Please, please, please keep going and never stop.
I thought this episode again wasso good.
I really enjoyed it. I found it engaging, exciting,
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heartwarming and irritating at the same time.
But less irritation and more heartwarming.
What was your review? I loved it.
You sent me a text message saying that you thought it was
intriguing, but you didn't give me more because I hadn't seen it
at that point. And then I was like, what does
she mean? Were you talking about Harold?
I was talking about a number of them actually.
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There's a lot of loose ends and I'm yes, I'm really intrigued to
see where this is going to go because it's so organic and less
less produced. So it's it's not nearly as
predictable as everything else. We have a comment from a
listener that was sent to us last week.
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This is from Kimberly Joe, and her comment is this.
Can all women agree right now that even if Tony is the last
man on Earth, we still wouldn't create a child with him?
Please and thank you. Yes, very well said.
Thank you, Kimberly. Joe, that is an excellent
comment. I wholeheartedly agree with you.
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Tony is insufferable, even the kind of man that, if he was the
last one on the planet, all of us would avoid like the plague.
I mean if if procreating with him would lead to the extinction
of the human race, I think that would be more appropriate.
Yes, goodbye humanity. It was nice fun.
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But no, please, no more Tony. No.
OK, let's dive into the show, but first let me do a quick one
and two one rate review and follow us wherever you listen to
the podcast to watch the podcaston YouTube at 90 Day Fiance.
Honestly, shall we begin? Yes, dear Harold is still on his
second date with Amber. This began in a way that I never
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anticipated with toilet humor asdid.
I that was very out of left field.
I did not picture either Harold nor Amber, who seems to be
somewhat conservative, bringing up this kind of topic as a
conversation during the second date.
Surprising. She said in the in one of the, I
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guess it was her after the last date maybe that, you know, she
understands that he's only here for a short period of time.
Normally she would be a little more conservative with the
things that she's talking about,but in order to reach another
level or whatever, she said, youknow, she's going to ask the
questions and she's going to move it forward.
This woman is really living up to her word and she's, I find
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her very, very enjoyable. And I love the fact that she's
asking him questions. Oh, I have a bunch of questions
that I want to ask you. Phenomenal.
That means that she's interested, she's intrigued.
She wants to get to know him more.
I think that's hugely positive. I love that she's so sex
positive. And I also love the fact that
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she said, you know, when Harold accidentally kissed her on the
lips, she wasn't turned off by it.
OK, well, let's talk about some of those things because there
there was a lot of really great moments of connection during
this day. One of the things that I was
thinking when Amber brought up the subject of toilet matters, I
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thought is this a way for her tosegue into a conversation about
something else that is even moreintimate that she wants to talk
about. And this is the thing that she's
practiced because like you mentioned, she is conservative.
This is an awkward thing to bring up, especially in on your
second date. So I felt like she was directing
the conversation. She was steering it towards sex
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because that's what she really wanted to talk about.
And that was wonderful that she felt comfortable enough to go
ahead and bring up this topic. The way that Harold responds to
her when she brings up the topicwas also wonderful.
He was open, he was honest, he was putting his cards on the
table. Nothing to hide here.
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Let's talk about it. I thought it was so beautiful.
And I also loved that you could still see his awkwardness.
She would ask him a question andhe would give him give her that
beautiful smile, and then he would wipe it right off his face
because he's thinking about the next.
Like he's considering his answerto the next question and he's
actively listening to her. I thought it was just such a
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beautiful interaction. I really appreciate the fact
that she was asking important questions, knowing that he has a
short period of time there. And I love the fact that she
communicate. I'm loving everything about
this, if you can't tell. There are lots of.
I love the fact that. Yeah, that she communicates her
expectations and her worries. And she also identifies the
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disconnected with her culture versus her outlook on sex.
Because we've heard Dolly say Singaporeans take things very,
very slow, and you shouldn't have any of these expectations.
But she's blowing everything outof the water and she's doing
things on her own time within her own comfort level.
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And I feel like that's really aligning with his timeline.
I mean, we'll, we'll get to that.
But I, I really appreciate the fact she that she's taking the
chance to ask these questions, even though they might be
uncomfortable. I think it's wonderful.
Yeah, what? You would have expected some
this kind of conversation to be very awkward.
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It ends up being an honest discussion that is refreshingly
healthy. Healthy, thank you.
That was a word that didn't evencross my mind, but yes.
And I have to mention that I am remarkably impressed and
surprised by both Amber and Harold and the answer to the
question of where's the most exotic location where they've
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had sex? Way to go, guys.
I'm not expecting those answers at all.
I love that they are completely surprising us in the way that
they've been living their lives and the way that they think.
Because the outwardness, the outward shell, seems to be one
way, but then when you get a little deeper, it's completely
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different and much more multifaceted and dynamic than
you could possibly have imagined.
Get a little deeper. Am I right?
Yeah. I was also surprised and they
surprised each other, which I thought was really beautiful.
It was so light hearted. Unnecessary conversation,
though, because then you're learning the other the other
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person's boundaries and where they're willing to explore.
And I I think I was more surprised by Harold with his sex
in the middle of the day in the car, though it was in a field.
Just I, I good. Good for you.
You know, I, that's my my, my misconception.
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Yeah, of both of them. Absolutely, I agree with you.
I I held the same misconception.I was so happy to see that that
misconception was just that the reality is completely different.
These people are, they're awesome.
The other thing that I just adored about the second date was
when she talked about the pleasant surprise that it was
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for Harold to have kissed her byaccident.
I was not expecting that. I thought that she would have
been turned off by the kiss thatwas supposed to be a cheek kiss
and turned into a full on mouth kiss.
But she she loved it. I in my notes, I said I'm
surprised that it didn't give her the ick because again,
Singaporeans as a culture, they work very slowly.
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They move very slowly in relationships.
So for her to have actually enjoyed it, I thought was just
wow, because Harold was like, I made a big mistake.
I can't believe I did that. But she liked it.
And I really don't think that hewas very conscientious about it
when it happened. It was just almost like a
reflex. So it wasn't like I'm going to
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steal a kiss and be gross like Tony would have been in that
same situation. Yeah, he was very respectful.
And I think I mentioned this last week that he knew what his
mistake was or what it could have been.
And so for her to take it in a positive way was it makes my
heart sore for the two of them. I love their dynamic together.
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They're definitely progressing much more quickly than I would
have anticipated that they wouldwhen we first met them.
There's still the question for both of them, or at least for
Amber, about autism being possibly genetic.
Seems like it is. I didn't know that.
And that there is a greater chance of them having a child
who is also autistic than of a couple who isn't.
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So that's a concern for her. He seems to lay her fears to
rest on that subject, which is great.
And then he's talking about how he's now open and willing to go
through the various tests that Amber has for a potential
partner, potential husband in meeting her friends and family.
Another really positive sign that the relationship is
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progressing in in a good. Direction and again her asking
the important questions his autism will affect their future
children. She's obviously thinking about
their future, thinking about what it would be like to have
kids with him. And I think that he has the most
incredibly positive outlook withthis.
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You know, he knows what to look out for.
He knows what specialists to engage, and he's been through
it. So it's not like 2 neurotypical
adults having a child who is autistic.
And both of them are just what Idon't know how to deal with
this. And I feel like the way that he
would treat that child is exactly how that child deserves
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to be treated. And I just see so much love and
positivity or the possibility oflove.
I'm not saying that they are in love at this point, but it it,
it's just, it's so positive. I think that they have.
Such a fantastic outlook and I really hope that they continue
with this upward trajectory, however.
Yes. Shall we discuss the meeting
with Dolly The Deep Brief? I think he really needs to slow
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his roll because he was saying that the the idea of proposing
has been weighing heavily on hismind.
And I was like, Harold, no, you were with Michaela for two years
and you didn't get engaged. So why do you feel so rushed
now? Well, this is the question and
it seems pretty obvious to me that his fear he expresses how
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having left Prague before, when he left Michaela without
solidifying the relationship, without getting engaged with
her, made him feel vulnerable and he thinks is the cause of
their relationship falling apart.
So he definitely has this fear that maybe if he doesn't lock it
down with Amber when he leaves Singapore, the relationship will
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dissolve, he'll have nothing left.
He doesn't want to do that again.
So obviously his knee jerk reaction would be to try to get
engaged with him as quickly as possible so that that is not
going to be the outcome of him going home.
CAR says no guarantees that thatwould be the case even if he did
go through with it. I think that he needs to accept
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that finding love does not equate to an immediate proposal.
You need to get to know the other person.
And even though there are fireworks at this point and
we're so excited for them, you can't rush into things because,
you know, again, they're, they're having these difficult
conversations and these very honest questions are being
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asked. What did you think of his idea
to have Amber come to the US to meet his family, rather than
proposing to her right away, which is what he wants to do?
Dolly says no, no, no, don't do that, be patient, wait.
His alternative plan seems to mejust as intense a situation as
proposing. I thought that it was a good
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compromise for him. Instead of proposing, introduce
her to his life so she gets to know more about him as opposed
to it being I proposed to you now meet my people think, I
think it actually might be a really good idea because is he
just going to continue to go to Singapore?
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And again, where are they going to live?
But that would also give them more time together.
She's going to see him in his comfort zone, his family, his
friends. Is she going to feel comfortable
with them because he's made thisthis decision to go to Singapore
to meet her in her comfort space, which is her country?
I think it also depends on whether or not she's going to
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feel comfortable with introducing him to her family
and her friends before he leaves.
I think he really needs to take a step back and let her lead as
she has been. She's been so great at it and so
great with her communication. I hope it just it continues and
that they allow each other this space to be able to grow
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separately and together and based on their own comfort.
What you said there about her taking the lead so far and
they're dating well, I agree with you yes, she has been
leading quite a bit and he's been making an effort to step
up, which I think is great because there is a potential for
them to both lead equally, whichis the ideal right?
Or to take turns 1 lead then onefollow an opposite.
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But Dolly has made a point of saying that Singaporean women
want a man who is the head of the household who can lead the
family. And so when she said no, that
idea of you bringing Amber to the United States to see how you
live what your life is like isn't a good one.
I was a little bit surprised because wouldn't that have given
Amber the opportunity to see Harold in his element?
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Harold being on the job, Harold earning his money, knowing that
he can support a family. And like you said, being in his
comfort zone where he is able tobe assertive and relaxed,
comfortable, rather than being in a foreign country where he
doesn't speak the language and is very much up in the air.
So that was surprising to me. But I I did agree with Dolly
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that it is a little bit of a A. Bold move.
To bring her all the way to the states, is he going to pay for
all of that? Like it just seems like such a
huge, huge investment of his time and money to bring her when
there is no agreement to at least be looking at getting
married. Not not necessarily being
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proposed to in that moment, but looking at that as a future
possibility. I can see that, however, I
wouldn't be surprised if he didn't pay for it because he
does seem like he's not frivolous with his money.
He makes excellent money doing what he does.
You know he's off for work for months at a time.
I think him giving her the opportunity to lead at this
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point is setting him up better to introduce him to the rest of
his life because, you know, I appreciate you, I respect you, I
want to learn about you. And now here's your opportunity
to learn about me. She's taken him to restaurants
that she enjoys. Now he can take her to
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restaurants that he enjoys and just see the life that he
leaves. Because we've all seen it where,
you know, you date someone and they put on this front and then
when you finally get to meet theother people in their lives or,
you know, you go to their apartment and and it's
completely different than what you had imagined.
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Whether or not this is appropriate for them at their
time is it's obviously up to them.
I would love to watch it. Here I am going on about the
love. I just want to see how how they
would mesh in the US, whether ornot they're planning on moving
there. I think we're going to have some
interesting developments coming up.
Looks like he is planning a grand gesture for her.
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What it is, who knows? We, we don't know, but the fact
that he's like, OK, well, if I'mnot going to propose, I feel
like I do need to make a grand gesture.
Like this man is just, he's so cognizant of his behavior and
the effects on the other person.The final thing that I'm going
to leave everybody with that I think is the key now that Harold
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needs to tackle is letting go ofhis fear.
His fear has really shaped his past relationship and his
present relationships. Whether or not he's going to be
able to get to a point where he can let go of that fear in order
to have a different kind of future with Amber or somebody
else, it remains to be seen. But I really hope that just like
with everything else that he's taken on board and incorporated
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and learn from in his life aboutdating, that he is able to do
this at some point. That somebody can say to him,
your fear of losing a relationship, of losing a love
is getting in the way of you finding 1.
So let's work on that. All right, let's move on to
Sarah, who is the other dater inSingapore who, when we see her,
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is recovering from what she calls her horrific date with.
Sean, I'm sorry, being showered with gifts and high quality food
and drink is so awful. It was kind of.
Bad though. It was.
I was being sarcastic. So we can agree that Sean was
pretty bad. He was classless, he was tacky
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and she does deserve to have a next chance date.
This is her third date now in Singapore, and this one is going
to be at a gym. Again, with the martial arts,
this is the second one that we've seen this season, which is
strange. We haven't seen much of this and
yet now we have 2 of them. Yep.
OK, just something of note. Of course Sarah attitude towards
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having a gym date is you gross. She doesn't think that it's very
cute. Like gosh, it's just like
nothing satisfies this woman. Nothing makes her happier than
when she's complaining about something she always finds.
Fault and she was questioning Dolly's ability to find her
someone who is a match and we also had the same concerns with
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Dolly. However, she's begun to prove us
wrong, so let's see how this onegoes.
Yes, EJ, the muscle bound business owner who Dolly calls
the perfect balance for Sarah. OK, perfect balance.
Really, I thought this was absolutely hilarious.
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First of all, he is very good looking, very good looking.
And you know, he owns a bunch ofgyms and he's very active and I
appreciated that he got a trainer from his gym to train
them. I think it was in Muay Thai.
So it wasn't, no, he's teaching her.
He's holding the power. It's let's do this together,
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let's have fun. But I thought it was absolutely
hysterical when he was doing hisindividual interview and he said
she seems bimbo ish. Like is he going to be too good
for her? Exactly.
That's the question. Is EJ too good for Sarah?
The answer is yes. Yeah, they they do the Muay Thai
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it, which looked like a lot of fun.
But of course, Sarah, the self-described girly girl, just
kind of flails around giggling because she's not comfortable.
This is not her usual date. She wants to be pampered.
She wants to be treated to dinner and a spa, I guess.
And she makes this claim during the punch.
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Boxing, kickboxing stuff, that activity.
This is Dolly's last chance. So just like dear old Tony,
Sarah is the one who's giving the matchmaker a last chance.
I love it when they try to reverse the roles.
It's quite, quite hilarious. But EJ did redeem himself a
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little bit in Sarah's eyes when he gave her flowers after the
Muay Thai event. OK, great.
She's getting her reward for being a good sport and this is
her love language to receive gifts.
So now they're getting to betterfooting together and she is
appreciative. And I was like, wow, she does
have an appreciative mode. This is nice to know that you go
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for drinks. Even far between, but when he
was explaining why he wanted to invite her to the gym for her to
see it, I thought that that was very real of him.
This is my life. This is what I've built.
I'm proud of it. He wasn't particularly showing
off. It was just if you can't
appreciate, you know what I've built.
I, I forget what his actual phrasing was, but like, if you
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can't appreciate this, then I don't want to be with you.
And for him to not only own a gym but to own several.
I think it's very impressive because gyms aren't typically
like you don't make a ton of money with gyms, but you do when
you're able to franchise them and or have several locations.
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And then I wondered, is her planto move to Singapore because
would he give up his businesses for her or would he maintain his
businesses if he moved to the States, what would that look
like? Because I don't think she has
identified where she wants to live.
She just said I want to meet a Singaporean man.
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Right, that's a great question. I hadn't really considered it.
My first impression is, oh, she wants to live in the States
because she wants to have all ofher creature comforts.
She wants her mom nearby, which by the way, we were mistaken.
Remember in a few episodes back we were saying that she lives
with her mom because she was on that date with Freddie, I think
it was named. The first one.
Yeah, who lived with his mom andshe was Pooh poohing that.
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But then it turned out that her mom lives on the same St. as
her, not in the same house. So.
But her mom is very close. Why?
She's very attached to her, so why would she leave the US to
live elsewhere, especially so far away?
And then I have a question. She said that she has her own
business back in the States. Do you know what that is?
I don't recall anyway SO. She's an entrepreneur, he's an
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entrepreneur. He's obviously like he's got to
shit together. He asked some wonderful
questions when they're having drinks, and I was very happy to
see them getting to know each other more deeply on this
personal level after the activity, which is great.
I think that's essential when you're having a first date.
You really need to know something about the person in
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order to figure out if you want to see them again.
So that was well and good. Sarah seems to like him more
than she did at the outside of the date.
He seems to like her more than he did at the outside of the
date when he said that she was like a bimbo.
So this is all going swimmingly.There seems to even be some
chemistry. There's a lot of laughter,
there's a lot of smiling, there's a lot of twinkling eyes.
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I think there is potential here,unless there is one of the deal
Breakers that comes up for her. Like not enough money or not
enough razzmatazz. I don't know.
Clothes that she likes, whatever.
I don't know. We saw the same date.
OK, do tell. I felt that, yeah, they were
both being vulnerable with sharing their experiences.
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However, I still felt like he was closed off and he maybe it
was just the vibe that I got, but he sounded so emotionally
mature. And when he mentioned that he
was already married, I felt likeher, like she put up a partial
ball. I didn't see the same connection
that you did. I'm not saying it was a complete
failure. I just didn't see the sparks fly
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between the two of them. And I don't know if it's because
I'm, I was so focused on him calling her a bimbo.
Like could you imagine walking into a date and then you know,
you go on several dates and thenyou find out that he thought
that you. Were a bimbo at first.
I think like that would be a deal breaker for her.
So how are they going to be ableto recover from that?
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I think she's going to nitpick about something.
I think he's going to have very valid reasons why he doesn't
want to see her again or maybe reserved reasons why, you know,
maybe a second date, but probably not.
But maybe this will give Sarah the motivation to go on 1/4
date. I don't, I don't know.
I just, I don't see that they'rea match.
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I didn't say they were match, but I said like I felt that
there was some chemistry. I felt like they were actually
flirting with each other towardsthe end of the date.
Whether or not that's enough forthem to go a step further, I
don't know. And I've had this feeling, like
I said, that she is going to find something else to find
fault with in him in order to stop herself from progressing
with this relationship. Or else he's just being kind and
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nice to her in this moment. And what we're going to see next
time is that he doesn't actuallywant to go out with.
Her again, I would think more sothe latter, though I also
appreciated the fact that she was also very vulnerable,
especially about her dad and going to his gravesite or the
crematorium or whatever and justlaying there and being with him.
I. Don't think you visit the
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crematorium because that's wherepeople actually get burned up.
Shit what? What is that called?
The I. Don't know, it's like a memory
garden or some crappy term like that.
Well, that's. Yeah, I know they.
Called it. You know, you know what I mean,
though I'm not saying that she visits the cream of Well, she
said she put her. Head on the gravestone, I think
that would be a. Little uncomfortable to lie
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down. With your head on a gravestone,
anyway. Could be a flat 1.
Could be a flat one in the ground.
That's possible, I don't know. It is a sweet sentiment for her
to go and spend time with dad, you know when she feels like she
needs him. And you and I both understand
that as we are dadless women now.
Anyway. Yes.
But anyway let's move on. Victoria and Amber, we get a 2
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for one in Ireland. My God this was so cute.
I love the fact that Amber and Victoria decided to have drinks
together. And then I also love.
That Victoria invited what was his name, Kevin, to meet up with
them both. Darren was the one who came to
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meet Victoria, It was cute. I love that they're going to
support each other and share their experiences of the Irish
dating. But what they've gone through so
far, I found it hilarious that immediately Amber seemed to be
jealous of Victoria's success, what she claimed, what she
thinks of as being very successful in her date with
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Darren, where they get to the point of having the matching
tattoos as if this is some kind of an established relationship.
OK, you guys have gotten a tattoo together.
That means it's a match made in heaven.
You guys are set. What the heck am I doing and how
do I get to a date with somebodywhere I can get a matching
tattoo? I didn't see that either.
You didn't see that? No, I thought that she was like,
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you guys are nuts. But wow, she loved it.
Because she was like, Oh my God,are those titties?
I'm sorry for saying that, But she did use that word and her
laugh, like her eyes didn't reflect her laughter.
She was like, that's nuts. But later on, when they're
interviewing her in the hotel room as she's getting ready to
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go on this third or fourth date with Keevin, she's still talking
about Victoria and Darren matching tattoos like she is
legit jealous. I don't.
Think that she's jealous. I think that she's just floored
that the two of them would do it.
OK, we need to talk to her. I want to know what's really
going on here. I.
I don't know, I just I thought it was.
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Can't believe that you got matching tattoos on a second
date. I was like, I can't believe that
you guys got matching tattoos. I didn't get matching tattoos.
I want to go on a date with a guy who wants to get a tattoo
with me. Maybe she wants to go on a date
with a guy who wants to get a tattoo with her, but she doesn't
actually want to get tattoos. OK anyway I don't know it.
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I just. I love our different
perspectives. Yeah, it's.
It's so fascinating. OK, so Victoria is still talking
about Kevin, but she's what she's talking about, the fact
that they're not talking. So why is she so hung up on this
guy? And why is he suggesting out of
the blue that they go on an overnight trip?
Is this something that the matchmaker Katarina has set up?
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I don't know. And the fact that it's an
overnight date is questionable, although he did go back to her
hotel room that night. Yes, she claims that they did
not sleep together. OK.
What is she hoping to get out ofthis?
And then she's all like, oh, Mr.Ireland or whatever his term is.
And she keeps leaning on her experience with him.
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But again, we know nothing abouthim.
He's Mr. No Personality, filled with an entire family
personality. When it comes to Glenn, Mr.
Ireland, she doesn't seem to be talking about him at all, as if
she wants to go out on another date with.
Him. That's yes, that's true.
She talks about Kevin as if he is all that and she wants to go
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out with him again and yet she seems reluctant to do so because
of this lacklustre texting. But she.
Said it's been 3 days. That's a long time to not talk,
not talking to someone who is actively in your country to
date. How many dates has she had in
those three days that you know of?
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Three maybe? No, I'm.
I'm just saying like, yeah, would he not be a little more
proactive? But you said, you said what is
Kevin getting out of it that he's asked her on an overnight
date. I think the more salient
question is what is she getting out of it or what can he get
from her? Because when they went to the
hotel, let's say she's telling the truth and they did not sleep
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together. They did make out for sure.
We know that, she said. There was some kissing and stuff
going on. And it was on video, we saw it.
Well, there was a stuff in the in the pub that we saw, but this
for the hotel we did not see. Either they did do the deed and
he wants to do it again, which is why he's got this overnight
date planned for her, or they came sufficiently close to it
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that he thinks he will get it onthe next date and that's what
he's after. Because I don't really think
that a guy who you go out on twodates with that you guys, you
have your stars and your eyes and you're just giggling all the
time and making out and having all these passionate little
moments here and there. You bring back to your hotel and
then they ghost you, in effect is going to ask you out for an
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overnight date because actually they felt really connected to
you and they want to build on that.
I wonder if he got cold feet. He's like this is too real, it's
too fast. I'm not sure about this, but the
the overnight date I think is a bit much, especially for the
third date. If he did get cold feet, I don't
think he'd be asking her out on an overnight.
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If he got cold feet and recanted, thought OK actually
she is a good person, I want to spend more time with her.
He would do it in such a way that it was a limited time
frame. A dinner, a lunch, a coffee.
Not let's go and spend at least 24 hours together.
Yeah, I don't, I don't know all very valid questions.
I have no answers the. Final thing that I wanted to
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bring out is that Amber says Kevin is allowing Glenn to swoop
in, Mr. Ireland. So that doesn't make sense
because how would Kevin know about Glenn, number one?
And he's just asked you out for an overnight date that is
swooping in. So why are you complaining that
Kevin is not doing the swooping and that Glenn is doing this?
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Do you see what I'm saying? There's a lot of swooping and
she's not really making any sense.
He's swooped. It's the span of time, OK?
Again, he doesn't know how many people that she's going on a
date with. He's allowed this opportunity
for her to flourish with someoneelse to create another
connection. Is this love ball well?
Katarina brings that up. She says that Kevin is her
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dating future, so her the potential that she has and Glenn
is Amber's past because he was love bombing her.
So Keevan supposedly would be this healthy relationship, but I
think I feel like Katarina's gotit backwards.
I think Keevan is taking advantage and trying to love
bomb Amber. And I think Glenn, he's not
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necessarily the healthy relationship that lies in her
future. I think he's playing the part of
the hero of the man who's going to sweep you off your feet.
But I really don't believe that Keevan is the good guy in this
equation. You're right, because we've
talked about about this several times before privately about the
push and the pull, the love bombing and the removal of the
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attention just to return to the love bombing and that in the
short period of time that we've had.
This is Kevin, you know, he's, he hasn't responded in three
days. And you know, if we had a
phenomenal date, we had a great time.
Unless you're, you know, like deployed or something.
I don't want to say dramatic, but you're like, like Harold,
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he's off for three months. He has a very limited amount of
time with his phone. He's super busy with work.
He just doesn't have time. We don't know what he's doing.
But it's that Infinity symbol again.
Love bomb. Ignore love bomb.
Yeah. Is that what we're looking at?
Or are we just not seeing the full picture?
I feel like it is totally, it isclassically what we're looking
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at with Kevin, that he comes in hard, fast, strong.
I am the man you, you will love me.
We are kissing. We are going all the way.
Public and people are commentingon Oh yeah, you get it and.
Then he would draws his attention, he makes her feel
less than, and then he swoops back in with the oh I'm going to
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offer you this nugget of attention.
She latches on to it and that he's going to let her go again.
Well, you want to talk about latching on to attention for the
next one, am I right? Yes, lovely Monica, sorry.
Have that for a segue. Perfect, beautiful, couldn't
have done it better. She breaks my heart.
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Bruno is. He's so lovely.
He is a true man. He's masculine, he's strong,
he's supportive, he's understanding, he's caring, he's
sweet, he's gentle. He does.
Everything emotional. He's so in tune with his
emotions, he knows how to talk. He's honest, forthright.
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This man is the complete package.
And she is still flipping thinking about Bernardo the
Weasel. OK, before we get into that, I
want to say how irritated I was when she showed up.
Everything was Oh my God, it's so cute.
Your place is so cute. This.
My God, you're making dinner. That's so cute, like can you
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think of another word? Please, you're not 14 I.
Just I I love the fact that he had already started preparing
dinner before she showed up. His place was clean, it was
tidy, though it was very minimalistic.
And I wondered, is this a rentallike we've seen with but it
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didn't, it didn't seem that way because it was like a gated
area. And anyway, I don't know, clean,
tidy. There were no pictures on the
wall. But that could just be his
preferences. And I wonder if that was his
personality. Simplistic, non personal until
he gets to know the person. That's just not how he exhibits
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it in his home life. And then as I was typing this
out, it was like, is this his personality?
And then he says I I'm a simple guy, thank you for answering my
question as I'm typing it out. And then I also wonder the very
important question, what did he make?
I know, I know you would. I mean, it's Brazil, so let's
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assume that it's something to dowith pork.
It looked like there was shrimp.Oh, seafood, OK.
It almost looked like a Pad Thai.
There were noodles, weren't there?
Mm hmm. So I'm not sure, but the fact
that she didn't say my God, thissuch and such is amazing.
She just said. I'm surprised.
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Oh, it's so cute, like. This champ is so cute.
Well she does seem over the moonabout Bruno, but then she starts
automatically sabotaging herselfand her feelings, questioning
everything and getting bringing in the guilt over Bernardo.
But she also kind of does that, almost like self soothing
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affection, you know? Her holding his hand up to her
mouth for what seemed like an eternity.
Yeah, that was weird. And just like the random kisses,
it was so awkward. That was like the longest hand
kiss that I've ever seen. But then when they stand up and,
you know, they kiss and he holdsthe back of her neck, I was
like, oh, God. Kate.
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Yep. Who?
We know what that does. That was so hot.
And then I said, Oh my God, I really hope that they don't have
sex because Louisa has said, youknow, no kissing.
Yeah, no sex. And yet she's broken every
single. I mean, she hasn't had sex yet,
but you know, the no kissing. She's broken that on every day.
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We're talking about 3 days now. Every friggin date.
I can understand her not being able to control herself during
this day. You know, he's made you dinner.
It's so beautiful. He invited you into his home and
he's such a beautiful human being.
And you know what? They're dancing.
And they didn't didn't make a point of it during the show, but
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like, he moved the coffee table out of the way so they had room
to dance. It was just, it was so sweet.
I loved it so much. And then, my God, she keeps
thinking about Bernardo, the F boy who apparently wants kids
versus the stable man who doesn't want kids, who has been
completely and utterly honest with you, vulnerable with you,
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yet you still keep thinking about the other one.
You ma'am, are the problem. I concur 100%.
He even cooked for you, like come on.
My last note was if Monica can'tsee the prize that's right in
front of her, then there is no. Hope, and she doesn't deserve
the prize. Well, let's hold off on that
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judgement because we don't know yet if she's going to choose
Bruno or Bernardo. And if she chooses Bruno, then
relief. Yes, she actually recognizes a
good man when she is confronted with one.
But if she chooses Bernardo thenyou've pretty much can forget
about her having a long term relationship in the future.
This is no. I don't even want to get into
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that at this point. I just want to appreciate Bruno
for everything that he is and everything that he isn't because
he deserves that. If Monica ends up not being with
Bruno, Bruno will find somebody in no time because his Instagram
social media is going to be flooded with women who have seen
this show, who are single, who are interested in going to
Brazil to meet a really great guy.
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If he has, Instagram doesn't. Everybody no.
OK, fair enough. Any last comments?
The producers have done an incredible job.
The people that they have hired have been very watchable.
Thank you. Let's let's go do another
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Hi Amy, happy we watch Match me Abroad Season 2 episode 9
yesterday. Episode 9.
Yes, I know we're getting towards the end and I don't want
it to end. I want it to keep going.
Please, please, please keep going and never stop.
I thought this episode again wasso good.
I really enjoyed it. I found it engaging, exciting,
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heartwarming and irritating at the same time.
But less irritation and more heartwarming.
What was your review? I loved it.
You sent me a text message saying that you thought it was
intriguing, but you didn't give me more because I hadn't seen it
at that point. And then I was like, what does
she mean? Were you talking about Harold?
I was talking about a number of them actually.
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There's a lot of loose ends and I'm yes, I'm really intrigued to
see where this is going to go because it's so organic and less
less produced. So it's it's not nearly as
predictable as everything else. We have a comment from a
listener that was sent to us last week.
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This is from Kimberly Joe, and her comment is this.
Can all women agree right now that even if Tony is the last
man on Earth, we still wouldn't create a child with him?
Please and thank you. Yes, very well said.
Thank you, Kimberly. Joe, that is an excellent
comment. I wholeheartedly agree with you.
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Tony is insufferable, even the kind of man that, if he was the
last one on the planet, all of us would avoid like the plague.
I mean if if procreating with him would lead to the extinction
of the human race, I think that would be more appropriate.
Yes, goodbye humanity. It was nice fun.
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But no, please, no more Tony. No.
OK, let's dive into the show, but first let me do a quick one
and two one rate review and follow us wherever you listen to
the podcast to watch the podcaston YouTube at 90 Day Fiance.
Honestly, shall we begin? Yes, dear Harold is still on his
second date with Amber. This began in a way that I never
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anticipated with toilet humor asdid.
I that was very out of left field.
I did not picture either Harold nor Amber, who seems to be
somewhat conservative, bringing up this kind of topic as a
conversation during the second date.
Surprising. She said in the in one of the, I
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guess it was her after the last date maybe that, you know, she
understands that he's only here for a short period of time.
Normally she would be a little more conservative with the
things that she's talking about,but in order to reach another
level or whatever, she said, youknow, she's going to ask the
questions and she's going to move it forward.
This woman is really living up to her word and she's, I find
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her very, very enjoyable. And I love the fact that she's
asking him questions. Oh, I have a bunch of questions
that I want to ask you. Phenomenal.
That means that she's interested, she's intrigued.
She wants to get to know him more.
I think that's hugely positive. I love that she's so sex
positive. And I also love the fact that
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she said, you know, when Harold accidentally kissed her on the
lips, she wasn't turned off by it.
OK, well, let's talk about some of those things because there
there was a lot of really great moments of connection during
this day. One of the things that I was
thinking when Amber brought up the subject of toilet matters, I
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thought is this a way for her tosegue into a conversation about
something else that is even moreintimate that she wants to talk
about. And this is the thing that she's
practiced because like you mentioned, she is conservative.
This is an awkward thing to bring up, especially in on your
second date. So I felt like she was directing
the conversation. She was steering it towards sex
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because that's what she really wanted to talk about.
And that was wonderful that she felt comfortable enough to go
ahead and bring up this topic. The way that Harold responds to
her when she brings up the topicwas also wonderful.
He was open, he was honest, he was putting his cards on the
table. Nothing to hide here.
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Let's talk about it. I thought it was so beautiful.
And I also loved that you could still see his awkwardness.
She would ask him a question andhe would give him give her that
beautiful smile, and then he would wipe it right off his face
because he's thinking about the next.
Like he's considering his answerto the next question and he's
actively listening to her. I thought it was just such a
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beautiful interaction. I really appreciate the fact
that she was asking important questions, knowing that he has a
short period of time there. And I love the fact that she
communicate. I'm loving everything about
this, if you can't tell. There are lots of.
I love the fact that. Yeah, that she communicates her
expectations and her worries. And she also identifies the
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disconnected with her culture versus her outlook on sex.
Because we've heard Dolly say Singaporeans take things very,
very slow, and you shouldn't have any of these expectations.
But she's blowing everything outof the water and she's doing
things on her own time within her own comfort level.
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And I feel like that's really aligning with his timeline.
I mean, we'll, we'll get to that.
But I, I really appreciate the fact she that she's taking the
chance to ask these questions, even though they might be
uncomfortable. I think it's wonderful.
Yeah, what? You would have expected some
this kind of conversation to be very awkward.
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It ends up being an honest discussion that is refreshingly
healthy. Healthy, thank you.
That was a word that didn't evencross my mind, but yes.
And I have to mention that I am remarkably impressed and
surprised by both Amber and Harold and the answer to the
question of where's the most exotic location where they've
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had sex? Way to go, guys.
I'm not expecting those answers at all.
I love that they are completely surprising us in the way that
they've been living their lives and the way that they think.
Because the outwardness, the outward shell, seems to be one
way, but then when you get a little deeper, it's completely
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different and much more multifaceted and dynamic than
you could possibly have imagined.
Get a little deeper. Am I right?
Yeah. I was also surprised and they
surprised each other, which I thought was really beautiful.
It was so light hearted. Unnecessary conversation,
though, because then you're learning the other the other
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person's boundaries and where they're willing to explore.
And I I think I was more surprised by Harold with his sex
in the middle of the day in the car, though it was in a field.
Just I, I good. Good for you.
You know, I, that's my my, my misconception.
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Yeah, of both of them. Absolutely, I agree with you.
I I held the same misconception.I was so happy to see that that
misconception was just that the reality is completely different.
These people are, they're awesome.
The other thing that I just adored about the second date was
when she talked about the pleasant surprise that it was
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for Harold to have kissed her byaccident.
I was not expecting that. I thought that she would have
been turned off by the kiss thatwas supposed to be a cheek kiss
and turned into a full on mouth kiss.
But she she loved it. I in my notes, I said I'm
surprised that it didn't give her the ick because again,
Singaporeans as a culture, they work very slowly.
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They move very slowly in relationships.
So for her to have actually enjoyed it, I thought was just
wow, because Harold was like, I made a big mistake.
I can't believe I did that. But she liked it.
And I really don't think that hewas very conscientious about it
when it happened. It was just almost like a
reflex. So it wasn't like I'm going to
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steal a kiss and be gross like Tony would have been in that
same situation. Yeah, he was very respectful.
And I think I mentioned this last week that he knew what his
mistake was or what it could have been.
And so for her to take it in a positive way was it makes my
heart sore for the two of them. I love their dynamic together.
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They're definitely progressing much more quickly than I would
have anticipated that they wouldwhen we first met them.
There's still the question for both of them, or at least for
Amber, about autism being possibly genetic.
Seems like it is. I didn't know that.
And that there is a greater chance of them having a child
who is also autistic than of a couple who isn't.
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So that's a concern for her. He seems to lay her fears to
rest on that subject, which is great.
And then he's talking about how he's now open and willing to go
through the various tests that Amber has for a potential
partner, potential husband in meeting her friends and family.
Another really positive sign that the relationship is
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progressing in in a good. Direction and again her asking
the important questions his autism will affect their future
children. She's obviously thinking about
their future, thinking about what it would be like to have
kids with him. And I think that he has the most
incredibly positive outlook withthis.
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You know, he knows what to look out for.
He knows what specialists to engage, and he's been through
it. So it's not like 2 neurotypical
adults having a child who is autistic.
And both of them are just what Idon't know how to deal with
this. And I feel like the way that he
would treat that child is exactly how that child deserves
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to be treated. And I just see so much love and
positivity or the possibility oflove.
I'm not saying that they are in love at this point, but it it,
it's just, it's so positive. I think that they have.
Such a fantastic outlook and I really hope that they continue
with this upward trajectory, however.
Yes. Shall we discuss the meeting
with Dolly The Deep Brief? I think he really needs to slow
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his roll because he was saying that the the idea of proposing
has been weighing heavily on hismind.
And I was like, Harold, no, you were with Michaela for two years
and you didn't get engaged. So why do you feel so rushed
now? Well, this is the question and
it seems pretty obvious to me that his fear he expresses how
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having left Prague before, when he left Michaela without
solidifying the relationship, without getting engaged with
her, made him feel vulnerable and he thinks is the cause of
their relationship falling apart.
So he definitely has this fear that maybe if he doesn't lock it
down with Amber when he leaves Singapore, the relationship will
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dissolve, he'll have nothing left.
He doesn't want to do that again.
So obviously his knee jerk reaction would be to try to get
engaged with him as quickly as possible so that that is not
going to be the outcome of him going home.
CAR says no guarantees that thatwould be the case even if he did
go through with it. I think that he needs to accept
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that finding love does not equate to an immediate proposal.
You need to get to know the other person.
And even though there are fireworks at this point and
we're so excited for them, you can't rush into things because,
you know, again, they're, they're having these difficult
conversations and these very honest questions are being
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asked. What did you think of his idea
to have Amber come to the US to meet his family, rather than
proposing to her right away, which is what he wants to do?
Dolly says no, no, no, don't do that, be patient, wait.
His alternative plan seems to mejust as intense a situation as
proposing. I thought that it was a good
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compromise for him. Instead of proposing, introduce
her to his life so she gets to know more about him as opposed
to it being I proposed to you now meet my people think, I
think it actually might be a really good idea because is he
just going to continue to go to Singapore?
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And again, where are they going to live?
But that would also give them more time together.
She's going to see him in his comfort zone, his family, his
friends. Is she going to feel comfortable
with them because he's made thisthis decision to go to Singapore
to meet her in her comfort space, which is her country?
I think it also depends on whether or not she's going to
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feel comfortable with introducing him to her family
and her friends before he leaves.
I think he really needs to take a step back and let her lead as
she has been. She's been so great at it and so
great with her communication. I hope it just it continues and
that they allow each other this space to be able to grow
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separately and together and based on their own comfort.
What you said there about her taking the lead so far and
they're dating well, I agree with you yes, she has been
leading quite a bit and he's been making an effort to step
up, which I think is great because there is a potential for
them to both lead equally, whichis the ideal right?
Or to take turns 1 lead then onefollow an opposite.
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But Dolly has made a point of saying that Singaporean women
want a man who is the head of the household who can lead the
family. And so when she said no, that
idea of you bringing Amber to the United States to see how you
live what your life is like isn't a good one.
I was a little bit surprised because wouldn't that have given
Amber the opportunity to see Harold in his element?
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Harold being on the job, Harold earning his money, knowing that
he can support a family. And like you said, being in his
comfort zone where he is able tobe assertive and relaxed,
comfortable, rather than being in a foreign country where he
doesn't speak the language and is very much up in the air.
So that was surprising to me. But I I did agree with Dolly
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that it is a little bit of a A. Bold move.
To bring her all the way to the states, is he going to pay for
all of that? Like it just seems like such a
huge, huge investment of his time and money to bring her when
there is no agreement to at least be looking at getting
married. Not not necessarily being
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proposed to in that moment, but looking at that as a future
possibility. I can see that, however, I
wouldn't be surprised if he didn't pay for it because he
does seem like he's not frivolous with his money.
He makes excellent money doing what he does.
You know he's off for work for months at a time.
I think him giving her the opportunity to lead at this
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point is setting him up better to introduce him to the rest of
his life because, you know, I appreciate you, I respect you, I
want to learn about you. And now here's your opportunity
to learn about me. She's taken him to restaurants
that she enjoys. Now he can take her to
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restaurants that he enjoys and just see the life that he
leaves. Because we've all seen it where,
you know, you date someone and they put on this front and then
when you finally get to meet theother people in their lives or,
you know, you go to their apartment and and it's
completely different than what you had imagined.
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Whether or not this is appropriate for them at their
time is it's obviously up to them.
I would love to watch it. Here I am going on about the
love. I just want to see how how they
would mesh in the US, whether ornot they're planning on moving
there. I think we're going to have some
interesting developments coming up.
Looks like he is planning a grand gesture for her.
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What it is, who knows? We, we don't know, but the fact
that he's like, OK, well, if I'mnot going to propose, I feel
like I do need to make a grand gesture.
Like this man is just, he's so cognizant of his behavior and
the effects on the other person.The final thing that I'm going
to leave everybody with that I think is the key now that Harold
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needs to tackle is letting go ofhis fear.
His fear has really shaped his past relationship and his
present relationships. Whether or not he's going to be
able to get to a point where he can let go of that fear in order
to have a different kind of future with Amber or somebody
else, it remains to be seen. But I really hope that just like
with everything else that he's taken on board and incorporated
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and learn from in his life aboutdating, that he is able to do
this at some point. That somebody can say to him,
your fear of losing a relationship, of losing a love
is getting in the way of you finding 1.
So let's work on that. All right, let's move on to
Sarah, who is the other dater inSingapore who, when we see her,
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is recovering from what she calls her horrific date with.
Sean, I'm sorry, being showered with gifts and high quality food
and drink is so awful. It was kind of.
Bad though. It was.
I was being sarcastic. So we can agree that Sean was
pretty bad. He was classless, he was tacky
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and she does deserve to have a next chance date.
This is her third date now in Singapore, and this one is going
to be at a gym. Again, with the martial arts,
this is the second one that we've seen this season, which is
strange. We haven't seen much of this and
yet now we have 2 of them. Yep.
OK, just something of note. Of course Sarah attitude towards
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having a gym date is you gross. She doesn't think that it's very
cute. Like gosh, it's just like
nothing satisfies this woman. Nothing makes her happier than
when she's complaining about something she always finds.
Fault and she was questioning Dolly's ability to find her
someone who is a match and we also had the same concerns with
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Dolly. However, she's begun to prove us
wrong, so let's see how this onegoes.
Yes, EJ, the muscle bound business owner who Dolly calls
the perfect balance for Sarah. OK, perfect balance.
Really, I thought this was absolutely hilarious.
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First of all, he is very good looking, very good looking.
And you know, he owns a bunch ofgyms and he's very active and I
appreciated that he got a trainer from his gym to train
them. I think it was in Muay Thai.
So it wasn't, no, he's teaching her.
He's holding the power. It's let's do this together,
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let's have fun. But I thought it was absolutely
hysterical when he was doing hisindividual interview and he said
she seems bimbo ish. Like is he going to be too good
for her? Exactly.
That's the question. Is EJ too good for Sarah?
The answer is yes. Yeah, they they do the Muay Thai
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it, which looked like a lot of fun.
But of course, Sarah, the self-described girly girl, just
kind of flails around giggling because she's not comfortable.
This is not her usual date. She wants to be pampered.
She wants to be treated to dinner and a spa, I guess.
And she makes this claim during the punch.
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Boxing, kickboxing stuff, that activity.
This is Dolly's last chance. So just like dear old Tony,
Sarah is the one who's giving the matchmaker a last chance.
I love it when they try to reverse the roles.
It's quite, quite hilarious. But EJ did redeem himself a
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little bit in Sarah's eyes when he gave her flowers after the
Muay Thai event. OK, great.
She's getting her reward for being a good sport and this is
her love language to receive gifts.
So now they're getting to betterfooting together and she is
appreciative. And I was like, wow, she does
have an appreciative mode. This is nice to know that you go
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for drinks. Even far between, but when he
was explaining why he wanted to invite her to the gym for her to
see it, I thought that that was very real of him.
This is my life. This is what I've built.
I'm proud of it. He wasn't particularly showing
off. It was just if you can't
appreciate, you know what I've built.
I, I forget what his actual phrasing was, but like, if you
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can't appreciate this, then I don't want to be with you.
And for him to not only own a gym but to own several.
I think it's very impressive because gyms aren't typically
like you don't make a ton of money with gyms, but you do when
you're able to franchise them and or have several locations.
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And then I wondered, is her planto move to Singapore because
would he give up his businesses for her or would he maintain his
businesses if he moved to the States, what would that look
like? Because I don't think she has
identified where she wants to live.
She just said I want to meet a Singaporean man.
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Right, that's a great question. I hadn't really considered it.
My first impression is, oh, she wants to live in the States
because she wants to have all ofher creature comforts.
She wants her mom nearby, which by the way, we were mistaken.
Remember in a few episodes back we were saying that she lives
with her mom because she was on that date with Freddie, I think
it was named. The first one.
Yeah, who lived with his mom andshe was Pooh poohing that.
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But then it turned out that her mom lives on the same St. as
her, not in the same house. So.
But her mom is very close. Why?
She's very attached to her, so why would she leave the US to
live elsewhere, especially so far away?
And then I have a question. She said that she has her own
business back in the States. Do you know what that is?
I don't recall anyway SO. She's an entrepreneur, he's an
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entrepreneur. He's obviously like he's got to
shit together. He asked some wonderful
questions when they're having drinks, and I was very happy to
see them getting to know each other more deeply on this
personal level after the activity, which is great.
I think that's essential when you're having a first date.
You really need to know something about the person in
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order to figure out if you want to see them again.
So that was well and good. Sarah seems to like him more
than she did at the outside of the date.
He seems to like her more than he did at the outside of the
date when he said that she was like a bimbo.
So this is all going swimmingly.There seems to even be some
chemistry. There's a lot of laughter,
there's a lot of smiling, there's a lot of twinkling eyes.
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I think there is potential here,unless there is one of the deal
Breakers that comes up for her. Like not enough money or not
enough razzmatazz. I don't know.
Clothes that she likes, whatever.
I don't know. We saw the same date.
OK, do tell. I felt that, yeah, they were
both being vulnerable with sharing their experiences.
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However, I still felt like he was closed off and he maybe it
was just the vibe that I got, but he sounded so emotionally
mature. And when he mentioned that he
was already married, I felt likeher, like she put up a partial
ball. I didn't see the same connection
that you did. I'm not saying it was a complete
failure. I just didn't see the sparks fly
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between the two of them. And I don't know if it's because
I'm, I was so focused on him calling her a bimbo.
Like could you imagine walking into a date and then you know,
you go on several dates and thenyou find out that he thought
that you. Were a bimbo at first.
I think like that would be a deal breaker for her.
So how are they going to be ableto recover from that?
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I think she's going to nitpick about something.
I think he's going to have very valid reasons why he doesn't
want to see her again or maybe reserved reasons why, you know,
maybe a second date, but probably not.
But maybe this will give Sarah the motivation to go on 1/4
date. I don't, I don't know.
I just, I don't see that they'rea match.
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I didn't say they were match, but I said like I felt that
there was some chemistry. I felt like they were actually
flirting with each other towardsthe end of the date.
Whether or not that's enough forthem to go a step further, I
don't know. And I've had this feeling, like
I said, that she is going to find something else to find
fault with in him in order to stop herself from progressing
with this relationship. Or else he's just being kind and
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nice to her in this moment. And what we're going to see next
time is that he doesn't actuallywant to go out with.
Her again, I would think more sothe latter, though I also
appreciated the fact that she was also very vulnerable,
especially about her dad and going to his gravesite or the
crematorium or whatever and justlaying there and being with him.
I. Don't think you visit the
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crematorium because that's wherepeople actually get burned up.
Shit what? What is that called?
The I. Don't know, it's like a memory
garden or some crappy term like that.
Well, that's. Yeah, I know they.
Called it. You know, you know what I mean,
though I'm not saying that she visits the cream of Well, she
said she put her. Head on the gravestone, I think
that would be a. Little uncomfortable to lie
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down. With your head on a gravestone,
anyway. Could be a flat 1.
Could be a flat one in the ground.
That's possible, I don't know. It is a sweet sentiment for her
to go and spend time with dad, you know when she feels like she
needs him. And you and I both understand
that as we are dadless women now.
Anyway. Yes.
But anyway let's move on. Victoria and Amber, we get a 2
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for one in Ireland. My God this was so cute.
I love the fact that Amber and Victoria decided to have drinks
together. And then I also love.
That Victoria invited what was his name, Kevin, to meet up with
them both. Darren was the one who came to
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meet Victoria, It was cute. I love that they're going to
support each other and share their experiences of the Irish
dating. But what they've gone through so
far, I found it hilarious that immediately Amber seemed to be
jealous of Victoria's success, what she claimed, what she
thinks of as being very successful in her date with
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Darren, where they get to the point of having the matching
tattoos as if this is some kind of an established relationship.
OK, you guys have gotten a tattoo together.
That means it's a match made in heaven.
You guys are set. What the heck am I doing and how
do I get to a date with somebodywhere I can get a matching
tattoo? I didn't see that either.
You didn't see that? No, I thought that she was like,
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you guys are nuts. But wow, she loved it.
Because she was like, Oh my God,are those titties?
I'm sorry for saying that, But she did use that word and her
laugh, like her eyes didn't reflect her laughter.
She was like, that's nuts. But later on, when they're
interviewing her in the hotel room as she's getting ready to
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go on this third or fourth date with Keevin, she's still talking
about Victoria and Darren matching tattoos like she is
legit jealous. I don't.
Think that she's jealous. I think that she's just floored
that the two of them would do it.
OK, we need to talk to her. I want to know what's really
going on here. I.
I don't know, I just I thought it was.
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Can't believe that you got matching tattoos on a second
date. I was like, I can't believe that
you guys got matching tattoos. I didn't get matching tattoos.
I want to go on a date with a guy who wants to get a tattoo
with me. Maybe she wants to go on a date
with a guy who wants to get a tattoo with her, but she doesn't
actually want to get tattoos. OK anyway I don't know it.
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I just. I love our different
perspectives. Yeah, it's.
It's so fascinating. OK, so Victoria is still talking
about Kevin, but she's what she's talking about, the fact
that they're not talking. So why is she so hung up on this
guy? And why is he suggesting out of
the blue that they go on an overnight trip?
Is this something that the matchmaker Katarina has set up?
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I don't know. And the fact that it's an
overnight date is questionable, although he did go back to her
hotel room that night. Yes, she claims that they did
not sleep together. OK.
What is she hoping to get out ofthis?
And then she's all like, oh, Mr.Ireland or whatever his term is.
And she keeps leaning on her experience with him.
(29:04):
But again, we know nothing abouthim.
He's Mr. No Personality, filled with an entire family
personality. When it comes to Glenn, Mr.
Ireland, she doesn't seem to be talking about him at all, as if
she wants to go out on another date with.
Him. That's yes, that's true.
She talks about Kevin as if he is all that and she wants to go
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out with him again and yet she seems reluctant to do so because
of this lacklustre texting. But she.
Said it's been 3 days. That's a long time to not talk,
not talking to someone who is actively in your country to
date. How many dates has she had in
those three days that you know of?
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Three maybe? No, I'm.
I'm just saying like, yeah, would he not be a little more
proactive? But you said, you said what is
Kevin getting out of it that he's asked her on an overnight
date. I think the more salient
question is what is she getting out of it or what can he get
from her? Because when they went to the
hotel, let's say she's telling the truth and they did not sleep
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together. They did make out for sure.
We know that, she said. There was some kissing and stuff
going on. And it was on video, we saw it.
Well, there was a stuff in the in the pub that we saw, but this
for the hotel we did not see. Either they did do the deed and
he wants to do it again, which is why he's got this overnight
date planned for her, or they came sufficiently close to it
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that he thinks he will get it onthe next date and that's what
he's after. Because I don't really think
that a guy who you go out on twodates with that you guys, you
have your stars and your eyes and you're just giggling all the
time and making out and having all these passionate little
moments here and there. You bring back to your hotel and
then they ghost you, in effect is going to ask you out for an
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overnight date because actually they felt really connected to
you and they want to build on that.
I wonder if he got cold feet. He's like this is too real, it's
too fast. I'm not sure about this, but the
the overnight date I think is a bit much, especially for the
third date. If he did get cold feet, I don't
think he'd be asking her out on an overnight.
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If he got cold feet and recanted, thought OK actually
she is a good person, I want to spend more time with her.
He would do it in such a way that it was a limited time
frame. A dinner, a lunch, a coffee.
Not let's go and spend at least 24 hours together.
Yeah, I don't, I don't know all very valid questions.
I have no answers the. Final thing that I wanted to
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bring out is that Amber says Kevin is allowing Glenn to swoop
in, Mr. Ireland. So that doesn't make sense
because how would Kevin know about Glenn, number one?
And he's just asked you out for an overnight date that is
swooping in. So why are you complaining that
Kevin is not doing the swooping and that Glenn is doing this?
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Do you see what I'm saying? There's a lot of swooping and
she's not really making any sense.
He's swooped. It's the span of time, OK?
Again, he doesn't know how many people that she's going on a
date with. He's allowed this opportunity
for her to flourish with someoneelse to create another
connection. Is this love ball well?
Katarina brings that up. She says that Kevin is her
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dating future, so her the potential that she has and Glenn
is Amber's past because he was love bombing her.
So Keevan supposedly would be this healthy relationship, but I
think I feel like Katarina's gotit backwards.
I think Keevan is taking advantage and trying to love
bomb Amber. And I think Glenn, he's not
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necessarily the healthy relationship that lies in her
future. I think he's playing the part of
the hero of the man who's going to sweep you off your feet.
But I really don't believe that Keevan is the good guy in this
equation. You're right, because we've
talked about about this several times before privately about the
push and the pull, the love bombing and the removal of the
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attention just to return to the love bombing and that in the
short period of time that we've had.
This is Kevin, you know, he's, he hasn't responded in three
days. And you know, if we had a
phenomenal date, we had a great time.
Unless you're, you know, like deployed or something.
I don't want to say dramatic, but you're like, like Harold,
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he's off for three months. He has a very limited amount of
time with his phone. He's super busy with work.
He just doesn't have time. We don't know what he's doing.
But it's that Infinity symbol again.
Love bomb. Ignore love bomb.
Yeah. Is that what we're looking at?
Or are we just not seeing the full picture?
I feel like it is totally, it isclassically what we're looking
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at with Kevin, that he comes in hard, fast, strong.
I am the man you, you will love me.
We are kissing. We are going all the way.
Public and people are commentingon Oh yeah, you get it and.
Then he would draws his attention, he makes her feel
less than, and then he swoops back in with the oh I'm going to
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offer you this nugget of attention.
She latches on to it and that he's going to let her go again.
Well, you want to talk about latching on to attention for the
next one, am I right? Yes, lovely Monica, sorry.
Have that for a segue. Perfect, beautiful, couldn't
have done it better. She breaks my heart.
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Bruno is. He's so lovely.
He is a true man. He's masculine, he's strong,
he's supportive, he's understanding, he's caring, he's
sweet, he's gentle. He does.
Everything emotional. He's so in tune with his
emotions, he knows how to talk. He's honest, forthright.
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This man is the complete package.
And she is still flipping thinking about Bernardo the
Weasel. OK, before we get into that, I
want to say how irritated I was when she showed up.
Everything was Oh my God, it's so cute.
Your place is so cute. This.
My God, you're making dinner. That's so cute, like can you
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think of another word? Please, you're not 14 I.
Just I I love the fact that he had already started preparing
dinner before she showed up. His place was clean, it was
tidy, though it was very minimalistic.
And I wondered, is this a rentallike we've seen with but it
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didn't, it didn't seem that way because it was like a gated
area. And anyway, I don't know, clean,
tidy. There were no pictures on the
wall. But that could just be his
preferences. And I wonder if that was his
personality. Simplistic, non personal until
he gets to know the person. That's just not how he exhibits
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it in his home life. And then as I was typing this
out, it was like, is this his personality?
And then he says I I'm a simple guy, thank you for answering my
question as I'm typing it out. And then I also wonder the very
important question, what did he make?
I know, I know you would. I mean, it's Brazil, so let's
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assume that it's something to dowith pork.
It looked like there was shrimp.Oh, seafood, OK.
It almost looked like a Pad Thai.
There were noodles, weren't there?
Mm hmm. So I'm not sure, but the fact
that she didn't say my God, thissuch and such is amazing.
She just said. I'm surprised.
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Oh, it's so cute, like. This champ is so cute.
Well she does seem over the moonabout Bruno, but then she starts
automatically sabotaging herselfand her feelings, questioning
everything and getting bringing in the guilt over Bernardo.
But she also kind of does that, almost like self soothing
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affection, you know? Her holding his hand up to her
mouth for what seemed like an eternity.
Yeah, that was weird. And just like the random kisses,
it was so awkward. That was like the longest hand
kiss that I've ever seen. But then when they stand up and,
you know, they kiss and he holdsthe back of her neck, I was
like, oh, God. Kate.
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Yep. Who?
We know what that does. That was so hot.
And then I said, Oh my God, I really hope that they don't have
sex because Louisa has said, youknow, no kissing.
Yeah, no sex. And yet she's broken every
single. I mean, she hasn't had sex yet,
but you know, the no kissing. She's broken that on every day.
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We're talking about 3 days now. Every friggin date.
I can understand her not being able to control herself during
this day. You know, he's made you dinner.
It's so beautiful. He invited you into his home and
he's such a beautiful human being.
And you know what? They're dancing.
And they didn't didn't make a point of it during the show, but
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like, he moved the coffee table out of the way so they had room
to dance. It was just, it was so sweet.
I loved it so much. And then, my God, she keeps
thinking about Bernardo, the F boy who apparently wants kids
versus the stable man who doesn't want kids, who has been
completely and utterly honest with you, vulnerable with you,
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yet you still keep thinking about the other one.
You ma'am, are the problem. I concur 100%.
He even cooked for you, like come on.
My last note was if Monica can'tsee the prize that's right in
front of her, then there is no. Hope, and she doesn't deserve
the prize. Well, let's hold off on that
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judgement because we don't know yet if she's going to choose
Bruno or Bernardo. And if she chooses Bruno, then
relief. Yes, she actually recognizes a
good man when she is confronted with one.
But if she chooses Bernardo thenyou've pretty much can forget
about her having a long term relationship in the future.
This is no. I don't even want to get into
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that at this point. I just want to appreciate Bruno
for everything that he is and everything that he isn't because
he deserves that. If Monica ends up not being with
Bruno, Bruno will find somebody in no time because his Instagram
social media is going to be flooded with women who have seen
this show, who are single, who are interested in going to
Brazil to meet a really great guy.
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If he has, Instagram doesn't. Everybody no.
OK, fair enough. Any last comments?
The producers have done an incredible job.
The people that they have hired have been very watchable.
Thank you. Let's let's go do another
podcast on the other show. OK, before we go, if you're
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