September 14, 2025 • 32 mins
Sandra answers Phin’s proposal, but there are many morequestions that arise. Sarah and Marco can now start planning their wedding, as well as decide where they’ll live. Arrah and Andy adjust to their new life in the UK. Zena takes time to consider whether she’ll marry Ebrima or not.
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Hi Amy, Abby, today we watched Night a Day Fiance UK season 4
episode 12. It's the last one.
Oh. God, thank God.
What you're you're happy it's over?
No. Kind of, oh, kind of.
I, I think a lot of these storylines are dry.
Most of my excitement has dissolved and I'm just ready to
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wrap things up with this one. It was a great season overall.
Great. Yes, I concur.
It was a great season. I'm sad it's going away.
I don't know what's next after this show and it's probably not
going to be as good. But this week I really enjoyed
the tying up of the stories, butthere was an exception or two.
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I believe that some people will make it, but I also feel very
strongly that there's no hope for others.
And we will have a 180 when it comes time for the tell all in
their storylines. Yeah.
I look forward to that. Yes, so let's dive in.
But before we do one rate reviewand follow us wherever you
listen to the podcast to watch us on YouTube at 90 Day Fiance,
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honestly. And now we can discuss.
All right, Finn and Sandra. So Sandra's answer to the
proposal at the radio station isyes, but and the but is that he
has to move to Brazil again. This seems really odd to me that
it's coming up now. Did they not discuss this right
from the beginning and like having a mental breakdown?
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Is the menopause distorting my reality?
Has it not always been the case that he was planning to move to
Brazil? From the very beginning.
That's what I thought. Yes, so I think the storyline is
just stupid and tired. In any case, it's a fair, but I
think especially given the mood that Sandra was in before the
proposal took place, the fact that they were arguing and
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hadn't yet resolved that argument.
So yes, the proposal is going tocome with a, but I'm surprised
it didn't come with more bucks. And Finn is kind of disappointed
in her answer. I think he was hoping for a
resounding yes. 1000 times. Yes, and was disappointed with
her reaction, though I found hisresponse to be quite childish,
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him not even wanting to give hera hug.
Yeah, and you can't say that youdidn't know that this this
engagement would be contingent upon a moving because she's not
going to be moving her two kids,her extensive family, nor is she
just going to leave them. This is this is a non issue.
It's totally unreasonable. Why are we going down this path?
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Why is it even something that's coming up at this point?
But childish is exactly the wordthat I wrote down for his
reaction, but also her reaction.Because at first it was I want
to hug. Can you come here?
Give me a hug? No, I'm not going to come over
there. Which is clearly as a result of
her not being very enthusiastic in her response to his proposal.
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He's got his nose at a joint andthen he wants to give her one.
He's changed his mind, but now she doesn't want one.
I don't like this tit for tat between them.
It's not healthy. Me neither, I'm not her biggest
fan. She seems to be very
uncompromising and I'm not saying that she should
compromise with regards to the move.
I think she just needed to be a little more upfront about
everything. Her reaction after the proposal
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when she says that she's heartbroken is very, very sad.
That is not the way you want to feel once your beloved has just
asked you to marry them. And I thought, OK, did.
This is done, We're finished, It's over.
They're going to wrap things up and these two are going to go
their separate ways. And things are so bad that Finn
is staying at a friend's house and she is what?
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Just surviving on her own in his.
Place, I guess so someone has tofeed the cat.
But I thought it was rich that he said, you know, he can't deal
with conflict, but he's he's really going to have to figure
it out. Did they need to spend that time
apart? Maybe, I don't know.
But then when they met up the next day, it was just so awkward
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because she said that she wants him to be the man that he was
two years ago. So are you saying that you want
him to change or you know you'renot accepting who he is in this
present day? There's just like she doesn't
really specify what he wants from him.
And I can see that being difficult for him to understand
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because she hasn't been clear about all the things.
Well, I think she's pretty clearabout the fact that she wants
more affection from Finn. He's not demonstrative at all,
and he recognizes that he doesn't do it for her in that
category. So if he's aware of that, you
would think that awareness should give him enough
initiative to then make a changeso that he can improve his
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relationship with her. Seems pretty simple.
But when they met at the park and she said how do we fix this?
That's what she's asking him. And he says I really don't know.
I was like what? What is wrong with you guys?
You're 2 grown adults, Surely there is something that you can
put forth as a small gesture as some little step towards
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reconciliation at this point. Then why don't you offer to give
her a hug or fin? Why don't you offer to Start
learning Portuguese so that you're making an effort to fit
into the culture and showing herthat your intention is to move
to Brazil? It's like they're so stubborn,
they can't even give each other just an inch when they need it
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the most. Yeah, it.
Was just, it was frustrating to watch.
I'm just I'm over their storyline.
And the fact that he said, you know, this actually might be it.
I was like, maybe that's for thebest because this entire trip
has not gone well for either oneof them.
It's been such a bad trip. I'm so so sorry for them that
this is where they ended up after all the hope and even Finn
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being as misguided as saying oh I hope she loves England so much
that she decides to move here. Like, oh, this could not have
gone any worse. No, no, it was just, it was
super uncomfortable. And again, I'm not her biggest
fan. I think he has a lot of growing
up to do, though. I'm glad at the end he just said
flat out I'm going to move to Brazil.
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OK, great. Yeah.
Well, hang on, because we got it.
We got to go to the ultimatum. She does give him an ultimatum
when they're in the park, which I thought was very bold of her.
I mean, bold in that and ultimatum is always a bold thing
to do, but not maybe not so boldin the fact that, like we said
before, it was already their intention for him to move to
Brazil. It was already set.
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And you would think, Stone, thathe was going there so that they
could be together. Yet we have this contrived
situation where now he's saying he doesn't know when he'd rather
she moved to England. So he gets the ultimatum and he
has, I think it's a like a 24 hour period to think about it.
I'm not exactly sure how much time elapses between the park
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meeting and when they go to dinner with each other.
But during that time, yes, each of them has to think it through
and decide is it worth it or arewe just going to say goodbye to
each other and end things now? And obviously, in that time, you
know that Sandra's been talking to her sister, and I want to
know what those conversations were.
That was a big piece. I think that was missing out of
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this whole puzzle. Why didn't they show us a little
bit of that interaction so that we could see whether or not
Sandra's sister was on her side,if she was persuading her to
just come home or if she was saying, hey, give Finn a chance.
You guys have invested a lot of time and your relationship was
going so well before all of this.
And then also for her to talk toher sister about, you know, Finn
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calling and, like, accosting herabout her relationship with her
ex and whether or not she's trying to get them back
together. And like, we didn't really see
any resolution with that other than Finn saying thanks.
I feel a lot more comfortable, which is nothing so.
And then the dinner, OK, so the question is, Finn, are you going
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to move to Brazil? That's it.
Ultimately, that's what the entire future of the
relationship rests on this question and he says.
Yes, wonderful. OK, great.
But is he doing stuff about it? I mean, when he said, well,
you'd be surprised how much Portuguese I've been learning,
how hard I've been working to become more familiar with the
language. Like, why don't you just, why
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don't you give her a couple of examples?
Why don't you exchange a couple of sentences so that we can see
that you've learned a little bit.
But instead, he sings this song,which is hilarious, about the
green mangoes. I'd laughed so much when he was
singing his. Song.
It was so funny again, so awkward, like I could barely
watch it, like I kept diverting my eyes.
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It was just cringy. I didn't find it cringy at all.
I loved it. I thought he was being wonderful
and vulnerable. Typical Finn that we've seen in
the past that we've liked, that we've admired in him.
And she was being her kind of dry, acerbic self with Ohio.
Please don't sing that again. Please.
It was finally a moment where I felt they were connecting and
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being a real couple. Their banter was good.
They were both lighthearted. They were joking with each
other. It was good.
It was natural. It was organic.
I love that. Yes.
So I think the song was an excellent way for him to kind of
break the ice between the two ofthem and show that, yeah, he's
willing to let himself be a little bit vulnerable.
And when his true character shines through in those humans,
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you can see why she's attracted to him.
You can see why they work well as a couple.
He does have some endearing qualities and it was really nice
to see them actually enjoy each others company because as I said
previously, this entire trip hasbeen a disaster so it's ended on
such a high note. And of course, they finally give
each other hugs, which is what she'd been asking for all this
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time. She got the physical closeness
that she wanted. Easy.
So simple. Why don't you just hug her more
often, Finn? No.
No. Too much work.
Yep. OK then, shall we read on?
We have Sarah and Marco next. We've been left hanging for a
couple of weeks now as to what Sarah's dad's response to Marco
would be when he asked for permission and then revealed
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that in fact they have already gotten engaged and it was a
while ago. So dad is very happy to say yes,
this is great news, Congratulations, he supports
their decision. Sarah comes downstairs to hear
the good news that her dad has accepted this permission asking,
although it really isn't permission asking at this point.
And then she reveals that they actually got engaged 3 months
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ago, which makes dad ask a very awkward question.
When did Marco tell his family about their engagement?
And I felt so, so bad for the dad in this moment to be
excluded from his daughter's joyfor so long.
And you could see Marco was really trying to gloss over the
amount of time that it had been saying it was about a month ago.
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Really. I don't believe that.
No, no, no, no. But at least that part of their
conflict is resolved. They can move on.
So the next question for them issetting the date for the wedding
and where are they going to live?
Marco decides that he's going toleave this decision making
process up to Sarah. Do you believe that that was a
good thing to do or not? Well at first I wondered is he
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compromising or is he just shirking the responsibility and
burden on to her? And is it a method of control so
that if she decides she wants tostay in the UK, then he can
resent her for that decision because he didn't have any part
in it? And then Sarah meets up with her
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friend, who says exactly what I wrote in my notes.
Yeah, but. There's another element to this
which you didn't mention. Yes, obviously he could be
saying you choose so that I get to resent you later because you
made the choice, but also you choose because I know that you
will feel so guilty about me giving the choice up to you that
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you will then yes and decide that Italy is the right choice.
Yes, yes, I didn't. I didn't note that one.
Yeah. So it's a really an icky, icky
question. I felt it was definitely a trap.
And no matter which way she decided, one of them was going
to feel resentful or hurt and one of them was going to feel
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either controlled or slighted because they were not part of
the decision making process together.
And I thought you were going to be very happy that we were
seeing Nikki again, she of the Love voice, the lovely yes yes
and the wonderful advice. She's just, she's so real.
And you know, I love the way that she calls Sarah out and
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again, how she mimics everythingthat I had already written in my
notes about the resentment. You know, you 2 need to make
this decision together. Like you really need to push
that this is a mutual decision to avoid resentment.
Yes, thank you, thank you. And I think that's really what
she needed to hear because I think without having her friends
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voice of reason, I think she just would have gone and made
that decision and then suffered the consequences.
And as it stands, what happens next when she goes out to dinner
with Marco, I felt was not her putting into action Nikki's
advice because they're talking about, OK, where do we live
next? And Sarah brings up, well, I
spoke to Nikki and Nikki. Said.
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So she's not taking ownership for the fact that she is going
along with Nikki's advice and thinks that that's the best
course of action. She's basically putting it all
on Nikki, which I thought was really, really interesting.
That's a great way to absolve yourself of any wrongdoing.
If it turns out that Marco's reaction is why are you
listening to your friends advice?
Like, that's horrible, that's terrible advice.
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I think it's dreadful. Then Sarah could say it's.
Nikki's fault? Never mind.
Right, so the idea that the suggestion for how to go through
this discussion has to come fromher friend.
I found that revealing of perhaps Sarah is afraid to make
this her own choice to really take ownership of what's
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happening in the moment. She's going to put it on Nikki
for now. Yeah, she's being very voidant
about it, but his? Response to that is very
interesting when he asks her, well, you've never actually told
me what you prefer, what do you want?
Which was a good way to go aboutit I think.
It was non confrontational it seemed.
I want to say compassionate, youknow, please just speak to me.
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Tell me where you're at. What are you thinking?
And I didn't see that coming from him, so I was quite
surprised when he did that. I was also pleasantly surprised
by Marcos reaction. And then when Sarah explains,
let's live in England because myjob, my family, all those things
are really important to me and they're here.
This will give me time to learn Italian so that at some point in
the future we can look at movingto Italy.
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And then I thought is she added this little bit on at the end,
which was kind of sneaky. And maybe you'll fall in love
with England in the meantime so that he won't actually want to
ever go back to Italy. It's a funny little moment, but
the way that this resolved, I thought was pretty good.
We're actually seeing some flexibility from Marco.
We are seeing Sarah's habit of deferring to the man and being
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slightly afraid. I think that's obvious of of
what he's going to say and what he's going to do based on her
past, this relationships, this this went well.
Agreed. I think it was a very positive,
a positive interaction. And you know, I'm proud of them
for being so mature and for approaching it in this fashion
as opposed to, you know, shirking the responsibility on
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to each other. And it was nice to see them get
on the same page because he alsoacknowledged, yeah, I have my
job, but you have your job, yourfriends, your family.
Maybe it would be best if we moved to the UK.
So we, we saw flexibility, you already said that, just
confirming that yes, flexibility.
Anything else for Sarah and Marco?
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Okay, let us read on then. We've got Andy and Ara.
In the UK. Yay, already they made it.
The greeting at the airport was absolutely wonderful.
I love. That it was so cute, especially
with like the little cut out. I just, I thought it was so
lovely that, you know, they wentout of their way.
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To. To greet her and at the airport
and, and then they, you know, they left.
It wasn't like Betty, you know, I'll meet you at the airport and
then I'm going to come and live with you.
It was just it was so nice. It was it was a beautiful
welcoming. I think it really made Ara feel
supported and accepted. And I loved how she kept
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throwing around the mom and dad and it was, it was so cute.
And then to go back to his houseand to see the way that they
decorated it with, you know, thecard and the flower petals, the
balloons and the champagne, like, I teared up a little bit.
I thought that was so thoughtful, so considerate, so
loving. What a great way to continue to
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welcome her. Like there was that forethought
in it. And I just really appreciate,
appreciated that Andy's parents went out of their way to welcome
her to the family. And not having it all on Andy,
you know, there's only so much that he can do to make her feel
welcome. And I think they really went
over and above to make sure thatthey did what they can to make
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her feel welcome in the UKI. Don't think we've ever seen that
where the couple goes home and the friends and family have
decorated to welcome them, but they're not there as well to
give them their privacy, which was perfect.
I also found that very touching that they they had left gifts
and cards and decorations everywhere for them when they
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got back to his flat. But you failed to mention the
most important thing of all, which I cannot believe.
The cat. The orange cat.
The beautiful, beautiful kitten,Yes.
What is the cat's name? How floofy is it?
May we see it again? Please feel like they.
Greeted the cat, but I didn't write down the name and the cat
wasn't super floofy. No short hair, but I want to
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know more about the cat. Yes, and why have we not seen
more of the cat? This should not be a side
character. I mean, we've met Finn's cat
several times. Come on, Andy, you're holding
out. Yes, he is.
Next up, Ara goes shopping for the very first time in England.
And I just found this so wonderful, so funny.
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Buys cheese. She was so.
Excited in that cheese aisle? Four different kinds of cheese.
4 bags of cheese. Unbelievable.
She buys sausages and beans and she's planning to give Andy a
heart attack. No, an English breakfast.
She's so cute about the cheese. She's so excited.
I don't know where that comes from, but it was delightful.
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And then when she brought it home and showed it to him and he
was finding more cheese in the bag after she'd already shown
him three of them, it was just adorable.
Just the way that they giggled together and how she was like,
this is my payment for for making this.
And he's like, there better not be another one in there.
Oh no, there was another one. Like there was no chastising.
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It was just like a beautiful, organic interaction between the
two of them and I just adored seeing how excited she got over
something as phenomenal and fantastic as she's all good.
Then she cooks a meal and I don't know why she said she
doesn't cook and she needed She was calling for mom's help
because she did an excellent job.
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It looked very. Authentic.
Fantastic. I think that she was pulling our
legs. She's definitely cooked before.
And of course, the next experience has to be the
quintessential English 1. Going to the pub, they go to
meet Andy's friends, his two closest female friends who are
as a little bit nervous about meeting, but everything goes
great with that too. Oh, they just, they had so much
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fun. Their laughter was contagious.
You know, I really could have done without hearing about all
their baby making stuff. I'm happy to hear that they're
trying and that is part of theirlife goal.
Fantastic. Just didn't need.
The detail, OK, we got a little bit of insight into the
timeline. I was hoping that we would when
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they initially sat down with thefriends and the friends said, so
you've gone from dating to meeting to getting engaged to
having a wedding to moving to England in the space of a few.
Months. I missed that.
Uh huh. A few months, not even a year.
Unbelievable. So, so quick, and yet they get
along so well. Their, their relationship is
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just, it's so pure. And I'm really curious to know
how they were able to do things in such a quick secession
because obviously we've seen, especially with David and
Sheila, how difficult it's been to get Sheila's visa.
So why were they able to do it so quickly?
Different country, OK, Yeah, different country.
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Sorry, Americans. Easy, you got to be UK citizen.
Good to know. Anyway, I really, really enjoyed
their their segment. I love watching the way that
they interact, how they're both constantly laughing, how it just
looks like they're beaming like red hearts out of their eyes
when they look at each other. And I also loved how it was
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seamless for Ara to fit in with his friends and for her to say,
Oh my God, they're louder than Iam.
I think that that gave her that comfort to really be herself.
Like their banter was so funny. I felt like at 1.1 of them was
going to fall off their chairs. They were laughing so hard.
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Like it was just so wonderful. And I can only imagine how Andy
felt in this moment to see his two worlds collide in just such
an easy fashion. I guess their their entire
segment was absolutely perfection.
Just the way that they go out oftheir way for each other, their
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beautiful and organic relationship.
And I mean, what's the timeline?OK, now we don't care.
I'm fine still still. Curious about that though.
You know, sometimes it just works and that's what it looks
like for them. And I really, really hope for
the best. I don't think we have to.
Hope for the best it they're going to succeed no matter what
because every aspect of their relationship has happened so
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naturally and has resulted in such success meeting the friends
meeting the family organizing the wedding getting her to come
to the UK having her integrate into the society getting her
first job right away yes I'm so.Proud of her like she's not one
of those that just, you know, sits back and it's like, oh, I'm
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going to try to acclimate. Oh, no.
She immediately goes grocery shopping.
She immerses herself in the culture by making the the
English breakfast, which I've never had one of my own, despite
my visits to England. You know, just the effort that
she's putting in, like she's just really embraced it.
And it's just, it's so adorable.Really, really wish that they
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would record her the next time she goes to the grocery store,
maybe even a bigger one, a different one with like a
massive deli selection of cheese.
Can you imagine how overwhelmed she's going to be?
But like in the best way possible her.
She's like, not lactose. Intolerant.
I mean, maybe she. Is, but she's enjoying it at
this point. Yeah, another.
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Cute thing that happened that I adored was Andy taking her to
the very, very fancy hotel to celebrate her having gotten her
first job in England. They are loving their life
together. She says she's happy with the
choices she's made. She doesn't regret any decision
she's made so far. Everything has been worth it.
What more could you ask for? I mean, I can't ask for.
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Anything else as a viewer? So I think that that says a lot.
OK, shall we read on? We have one final couple to wrap
up for this season, and that is Xena and Abraham.
Oh dear. So we start off with Xena taking
her granddaughter Tilly to a garden center.
They're catching up together. Xena shows Tilly the engagement
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ring. Tilly is shocked.
She asks a very important question.
Why do you think he wants to marry you?
And Xena is just spouting the same old garbage that she has
been all season. Well, he tells me that he loves
me and he thinks I'm his soul mate, OK?
But why? Why was she surprised that Tilly
was surprised? Yeah, of course.
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We already knew that the family wasn't very keen on Xena having
this boyfriend and now fiance, so of course it was going to be
an uphill battle. But Xena needs to have better
arguments for herself. She doesn't need to fight with
people, she just needs to have better facts to rely on when she
gets into discussions with people.
Because this is where it falls flat.
He loves me and he thinks I'm his soul mate.
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Words are cheap, right? Talk is cheap.
Actions speak louder than words.All of those things are out
there for a reason. What has he actually done for
you, Zena, that proves that he loves you?
He's asked you for money. He's asked you for gifts.
He's told you not to dance, not to drink, not to do this or that
he's lied about. Having social media, yes.
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And who even knows? About his family situation right
now are his nephews, nieces and nephews, his kids, is his
sister, his wife? Like, there's just so many
questions. And, you know, before she even
left to go to the Gambia, she was, I need him to, you know,
tell me what all this is about. And then she just lets it go.
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Yeah, what? It's so disappointing the.
Lack of follow through that Xenahas had and even when she's
decided OK that I'm going to call him, I'm going to tell him
my reasons because she of coursedecides that it's not the right
course of action for her to get married to him like the reason
she gives. Her so flimsy, Yes, very.
(26:08):
Go find somebody your own age. What?
And then she. Says that he wants something
serious, but she doesn't. What?
Yeah. Like where did that come?
Came from Yeah, she was talking.About possibly getting engaged
beforehand, which is why I wondered why she was surprised
that Tilly was surprised that she got engaged.
Like, she's just so waffly with this man, though I'm proud of
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her for breaking it off because obviously that was the best
thing that she could have done. But like, again, she doesn't
want anything serious. Since when?
Yeah. That's not the message that
we've had from the beginning of the season with her, not at all.
And it made me think because of how quickly she transitioned
from okay Ibrahim, go and be happy and don't be upset.
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Bye bye to picking up the phone and going.
I'm going to start a dating app profile and maybe I'll try this
country and said it's much closer.
I wondered if she hasn't alreadytaken that next step because she
did it so easily dumping Ibrahimthat it really felt as if her
her emotions are so far uninvested in this man that
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they've probably gone somewhere else.
She's probably already started talking to other people, yes or
a person. I got that feeling.
As well because it was a. Very, very cold dumping.
I did not feel bad. For him in the slightest.
I love that. She was like, no, I don't like
looking at you when you're this upset.
Though. I don't think I saw any tears.
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He was not crying. No, he was not.
He's just disappointed that now he's lost his cash cow and now
he's going to have to bark up some other tree and then he's
going to have to explain it to his family.
Yeah. Yeah.
Now she's gone. Now we don't have this income.
Now we can't rely on them for this.
And anyway, good for her for breaking it off.
I do. I do hope the best for her.
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And I really hope that she continues to sit on her family
because it seems as though thereare a lot more grounded than she
is at. Tilly is so incredibly
insightful and emotionally mature for someone of her age.
Because I think she's only like 19, right?
Not sure either. Way.
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I love the way that. She called Xena out the she was
so articulate and clear with herconcerns and her questions and
she's just an excellent communicator.
I find her very impressive, whatyou said.
About Abraham going and finding some other victim to get money
from, I agree with you wholeheartedly.
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I think that's what he'll do. But I also felt like there's a
very good chance that he will continue to be in contact with
Zena. They did say we'll talk, we'll
speak with you soon, that he's going to guilt trip her into a
few more gifts at least before he will finally let her go in
(29:03):
order to bridge the gap between her and whoever is next on his
list. And she will probably be sending
him some money because she feelsbadly that she's dumped him.
I can definitely see. That yeah, it was such.
An abrupt ending to this relationship that I I felt like
we weren't being told the whole story.
Either she has already had something in the background
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going on with somebody else and that's why she's able to do it
so quickly and easily. Or they're going to continue
with some type of relationship, though probably not a romantic
one anymore, and he will continue to use her as much as
he can, if not suck her back in.I don't know.
That is always possible. I don't know, it didn't.
Seem as though he really tried too hard to talk her out of her
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decision. No, no.
I. Think he was leaving that for
later on I guess. I guess.
We'll see. But anyway, I'm happy for her.
I hope she's happy with her decisions because I am happy
that she broke up with him. I am too.
Any more money? But I mean, we've seen some
spoilers online. Let's not get into those, but I
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guess we'll see. Yeah.
So we. Have one more episode left,
which is the tell all next week.Looks like it should be
interesting. I'm glad they didn't give too
much away. So now we can't.
I don't know. Sometimes it's just it's so easy
to tell how it's going to go. And it's like, I'm really not
looking forward to this. But they really didn't give us
anything. So I'm still hopeful that the
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tell all is going to be entertaining.
Yeah. And I think.
The sound bites that they were using to tease us about the tell
all were actually taking from this season.
So there's nothing that was new that could have revealed
anything to us. But I do have some predictions.
I think Finn and Sandra will be done.
Shorna and Adnan are definitely done.
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Think the Shannon and Mehta willstill be together.
That will be going well. Sam and Ally.
Oh, God, I hope that that's done.
Marco and Sarah, I'm sure they'll still be going strong.
And of course, our And Andy. Yeah, nothing's going to tear
those two apart. What about you?
Any predictions? Zena is going to have a new.
Man. But otherwise I completely agree
with with your. OK, Thank you.
Thank you. Very much.
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We'll see if any of them come true next week.
I cannot wait. Dramatic.
Any final comments on this season?
No, I found it very. Enjoyable.
It was an absolute breath of fresh air in comparison to the
US. I've enjoyed quite a few of
these couples, though obviously there are there are the villains
that I never want to see on my screen again.
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Hopefully we won't have to. I'm really pleased with how this
all went about. And I'm also glad that, you
know, we, we decided to cover this because the first couple
episodes were just so good. We absolutely had to talk about
it. So I'm really glad that we got
to experience that together, even though we would have even
without the podcast. But it's just really nice to be
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able to share our experience with with the listeners.
And anyway, thank you for agreeing to do that.
My pleasure. Thank you.
Thank you. What are your your last
thoughts? I agree the.
UK is always a stunning version of 90 Day Fiance.
Never disappoints. I would like them to do a spin
off with R and Andy. I really want to see what
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happens next with them. So if the 90 day UK producers
were interested in doing a happily ever after, I would be
interested in watching that. Just so long as they don't have
Salmon Alley on it, thank you very much.
And chicken. Oh well, I don't think they're
together anymore anyway. So.
But I don't know, they just keep.
Putting out music videos keep them off my.
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Screen as well regardless of whether they're together or not
thank you very much I mean if. We could ask for one thing from
90 day UK. No more of them.
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Thanks everyone.
Hi Amy, Abby, today we watched Night a Day Fiance UK season 4
episode 12. It's the last one.
Oh. God, thank God.
What you're you're happy it's over?
No. Kind of, oh, kind of.
I, I think a lot of these storylines are dry.
Most of my excitement has dissolved and I'm just ready to
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wrap things up with this one. It was a great season overall.
Great. Yes, I concur.
It was a great season. I'm sad it's going away.
I don't know what's next after this show and it's probably not
going to be as good. But this week I really enjoyed
the tying up of the stories, butthere was an exception or two.
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I believe that some people will make it, but I also feel very
strongly that there's no hope for others.
And we will have a 180 when it comes time for the tell all in
their storylines. Yeah.
I look forward to that. Yes, so let's dive in.
But before we do one rate reviewand follow us wherever you
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honestly. And now we can discuss.
All right, Finn and Sandra. So Sandra's answer to the
proposal at the radio station isyes, but and the but is that he
has to move to Brazil again. This seems really odd to me that
it's coming up now. Did they not discuss this right
from the beginning and like having a mental breakdown?
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Is the menopause distorting my reality?
Has it not always been the case that he was planning to move to
Brazil? From the very beginning.
That's what I thought. Yes, so I think the storyline is
just stupid and tired. In any case, it's a fair, but I
think especially given the mood that Sandra was in before the
proposal took place, the fact that they were arguing and
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hadn't yet resolved that argument.
So yes, the proposal is going tocome with a, but I'm surprised
it didn't come with more bucks. And Finn is kind of disappointed
in her answer. I think he was hoping for a
resounding yes. 1000 times. Yes, and was disappointed with
her reaction, though I found hisresponse to be quite childish,
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him not even wanting to give hera hug.
Yeah, and you can't say that youdidn't know that this this
engagement would be contingent upon a moving because she's not
going to be moving her two kids,her extensive family, nor is she
just going to leave them. This is this is a non issue.
It's totally unreasonable. Why are we going down this path?
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Why is it even something that's coming up at this point?
But childish is exactly the wordthat I wrote down for his
reaction, but also her reaction.Because at first it was I want
to hug. Can you come here?
Give me a hug? No, I'm not going to come over
there. Which is clearly as a result of
her not being very enthusiastic in her response to his proposal.
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He's got his nose at a joint andthen he wants to give her one.
He's changed his mind, but now she doesn't want one.
I don't like this tit for tat between them.
It's not healthy. Me neither, I'm not her biggest
fan. She seems to be very
uncompromising and I'm not saying that she should
compromise with regards to the move.
I think she just needed to be a little more upfront about
everything. Her reaction after the proposal
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when she says that she's heartbroken is very, very sad.
That is not the way you want to feel once your beloved has just
asked you to marry them. And I thought, OK, did.
This is done, We're finished, It's over.
They're going to wrap things up and these two are going to go
their separate ways. And things are so bad that Finn
is staying at a friend's house and she is what?
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Just surviving on her own in his.
Place, I guess so someone has tofeed the cat.
But I thought it was rich that he said, you know, he can't deal
with conflict, but he's he's really going to have to figure
it out. Did they need to spend that time
apart? Maybe, I don't know.
But then when they met up the next day, it was just so awkward
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because she said that she wants him to be the man that he was
two years ago. So are you saying that you want
him to change or you know you'renot accepting who he is in this
present day? There's just like she doesn't
really specify what he wants from him.
And I can see that being difficult for him to understand
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because she hasn't been clear about all the things.
Well, I think she's pretty clearabout the fact that she wants
more affection from Finn. He's not demonstrative at all,
and he recognizes that he doesn't do it for her in that
category. So if he's aware of that, you
would think that awareness should give him enough
initiative to then make a changeso that he can improve his
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relationship with her. Seems pretty simple.
But when they met at the park and she said how do we fix this?
That's what she's asking him. And he says I really don't know.
I was like what? What is wrong with you guys?
You're 2 grown adults, Surely there is something that you can
put forth as a small gesture as some little step towards
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reconciliation at this point. Then why don't you offer to give
her a hug or fin? Why don't you offer to Start
learning Portuguese so that you're making an effort to fit
into the culture and showing herthat your intention is to move
to Brazil? It's like they're so stubborn,
they can't even give each other just an inch when they need it
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the most. Yeah, it.
Was just, it was frustrating to watch.
I'm just I'm over their storyline.
And the fact that he said, you know, this actually might be it.
I was like, maybe that's for thebest because this entire trip
has not gone well for either oneof them.
It's been such a bad trip. I'm so so sorry for them that
this is where they ended up after all the hope and even Finn
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being as misguided as saying oh I hope she loves England so much
that she decides to move here. Like, oh, this could not have
gone any worse. No, no, it was just, it was
super uncomfortable. And again, I'm not her biggest
fan. I think he has a lot of growing
up to do, though. I'm glad at the end he just said
flat out I'm going to move to Brazil.
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OK, great. Yeah.
Well, hang on, because we got it.
We got to go to the ultimatum. She does give him an ultimatum
when they're in the park, which I thought was very bold of her.
I mean, bold in that and ultimatum is always a bold thing
to do, but not maybe not so boldin the fact that, like we said
before, it was already their intention for him to move to
Brazil. It was already set.
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And you would think, Stone, thathe was going there so that they
could be together. Yet we have this contrived
situation where now he's saying he doesn't know when he'd rather
she moved to England. So he gets the ultimatum and he
has, I think it's a like a 24 hour period to think about it.
I'm not exactly sure how much time elapses between the park
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meeting and when they go to dinner with each other.
But during that time, yes, each of them has to think it through
and decide is it worth it or arewe just going to say goodbye to
each other and end things now? And obviously, in that time, you
know that Sandra's been talking to her sister, and I want to
know what those conversations were.
That was a big piece. I think that was missing out of
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this whole puzzle. Why didn't they show us a little
bit of that interaction so that we could see whether or not
Sandra's sister was on her side,if she was persuading her to
just come home or if she was saying, hey, give Finn a chance.
You guys have invested a lot of time and your relationship was
going so well before all of this.
And then also for her to talk toher sister about, you know, Finn
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calling and, like, accosting herabout her relationship with her
ex and whether or not she's trying to get them back
together. And like, we didn't really see
any resolution with that other than Finn saying thanks.
I feel a lot more comfortable, which is nothing so.
And then the dinner, OK, so the question is, Finn, are you going
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to move to Brazil? That's it.
Ultimately, that's what the entire future of the
relationship rests on this question and he says.
Yes, wonderful. OK, great.
But is he doing stuff about it? I mean, when he said, well,
you'd be surprised how much Portuguese I've been learning,
how hard I've been working to become more familiar with the
language. Like, why don't you just, why
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don't you give her a couple of examples?
Why don't you exchange a couple of sentences so that we can see
that you've learned a little bit.
But instead, he sings this song,which is hilarious, about the
green mangoes. I'd laughed so much when he was
singing his. Song.
It was so funny again, so awkward, like I could barely
watch it, like I kept diverting my eyes.
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It was just cringy. I didn't find it cringy at all.
I loved it. I thought he was being wonderful
and vulnerable. Typical Finn that we've seen in
the past that we've liked, that we've admired in him.
And she was being her kind of dry, acerbic self with Ohio.
Please don't sing that again. Please.
It was finally a moment where I felt they were connecting and
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being a real couple. Their banter was good.
They were both lighthearted. They were joking with each
other. It was good.
It was natural. It was organic.
I love that. Yes.
So I think the song was an excellent way for him to kind of
break the ice between the two ofthem and show that, yeah, he's
willing to let himself be a little bit vulnerable.
And when his true character shines through in those humans,
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you can see why she's attracted to him.
You can see why they work well as a couple.
He does have some endearing qualities and it was really nice
to see them actually enjoy each others company because as I said
previously, this entire trip hasbeen a disaster so it's ended on
such a high note. And of course, they finally give
each other hugs, which is what she'd been asking for all this
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time. She got the physical closeness
that she wanted. Easy.
So simple. Why don't you just hug her more
often, Finn? No.
No. Too much work.
Yep. OK then, shall we read on?
We have Sarah and Marco next. We've been left hanging for a
couple of weeks now as to what Sarah's dad's response to Marco
would be when he asked for permission and then revealed
(10:05):
that in fact they have already gotten engaged and it was a
while ago. So dad is very happy to say yes,
this is great news, Congratulations, he supports
their decision. Sarah comes downstairs to hear
the good news that her dad has accepted this permission asking,
although it really isn't permission asking at this point.
And then she reveals that they actually got engaged 3 months
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ago, which makes dad ask a very awkward question.
When did Marco tell his family about their engagement?
And I felt so, so bad for the dad in this moment to be
excluded from his daughter's joyfor so long.
And you could see Marco was really trying to gloss over the
amount of time that it had been saying it was about a month ago.
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Really. I don't believe that.
No, no, no, no. But at least that part of their
conflict is resolved. They can move on.
So the next question for them issetting the date for the wedding
and where are they going to live?
Marco decides that he's going toleave this decision making
process up to Sarah. Do you believe that that was a
good thing to do or not? Well at first I wondered is he
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compromising or is he just shirking the responsibility and
burden on to her? And is it a method of control so
that if she decides she wants tostay in the UK, then he can
resent her for that decision because he didn't have any part
in it? And then Sarah meets up with her
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friend, who says exactly what I wrote in my notes.
Yeah, but. There's another element to this
which you didn't mention. Yes, obviously he could be
saying you choose so that I get to resent you later because you
made the choice, but also you choose because I know that you
will feel so guilty about me giving the choice up to you that
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you will then yes and decide that Italy is the right choice.
Yes, yes, I didn't. I didn't note that one.
Yeah. So it's a really an icky, icky
question. I felt it was definitely a trap.
And no matter which way she decided, one of them was going
to feel resentful or hurt and one of them was going to feel
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either controlled or slighted because they were not part of
the decision making process together.
And I thought you were going to be very happy that we were
seeing Nikki again, she of the Love voice, the lovely yes yes
and the wonderful advice. She's just, she's so real.
And you know, I love the way that she calls Sarah out and
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again, how she mimics everythingthat I had already written in my
notes about the resentment. You know, you 2 need to make
this decision together. Like you really need to push
that this is a mutual decision to avoid resentment.
Yes, thank you, thank you. And I think that's really what
she needed to hear because I think without having her friends
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voice of reason, I think she just would have gone and made
that decision and then suffered the consequences.
And as it stands, what happens next when she goes out to dinner
with Marco, I felt was not her putting into action Nikki's
advice because they're talking about, OK, where do we live
next? And Sarah brings up, well, I
spoke to Nikki and Nikki. Said.
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So she's not taking ownership for the fact that she is going
along with Nikki's advice and thinks that that's the best
course of action. She's basically putting it all
on Nikki, which I thought was really, really interesting.
That's a great way to absolve yourself of any wrongdoing.
If it turns out that Marco's reaction is why are you
listening to your friends advice?
Like, that's horrible, that's terrible advice.
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I think it's dreadful. Then Sarah could say it's.
Nikki's fault? Never mind.
Right, so the idea that the suggestion for how to go through
this discussion has to come fromher friend.
I found that revealing of perhaps Sarah is afraid to make
this her own choice to really take ownership of what's
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happening in the moment. She's going to put it on Nikki
for now. Yeah, she's being very voidant
about it, but his? Response to that is very
interesting when he asks her, well, you've never actually told
me what you prefer, what do you want?
Which was a good way to go aboutit I think.
It was non confrontational it seemed.
I want to say compassionate, youknow, please just speak to me.
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Tell me where you're at. What are you thinking?
And I didn't see that coming from him, so I was quite
surprised when he did that. I was also pleasantly surprised
by Marcos reaction. And then when Sarah explains,
let's live in England because myjob, my family, all those things
are really important to me and they're here.
This will give me time to learn Italian so that at some point in
the future we can look at movingto Italy.
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And then I thought is she added this little bit on at the end,
which was kind of sneaky. And maybe you'll fall in love
with England in the meantime so that he won't actually want to
ever go back to Italy. It's a funny little moment, but
the way that this resolved, I thought was pretty good.
We're actually seeing some flexibility from Marco.
We are seeing Sarah's habit of deferring to the man and being
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slightly afraid. I think that's obvious of of
what he's going to say and what he's going to do based on her
past, this relationships, this this went well.
Agreed. I think it was a very positive,
a positive interaction. And you know, I'm proud of them
for being so mature and for approaching it in this fashion
as opposed to, you know, shirking the responsibility on
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to each other. And it was nice to see them get
on the same page because he alsoacknowledged, yeah, I have my
job, but you have your job, yourfriends, your family.
Maybe it would be best if we moved to the UK.
So we, we saw flexibility, you already said that, just
confirming that yes, flexibility.
Anything else for Sarah and Marco?
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Okay, let us read on then. We've got Andy and Ara.
In the UK. Yay, already they made it.
The greeting at the airport was absolutely wonderful.
I love. That it was so cute, especially
with like the little cut out. I just, I thought it was so
lovely that, you know, they wentout of their way.
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To. To greet her and at the airport
and, and then they, you know, they left.
It wasn't like Betty, you know, I'll meet you at the airport and
then I'm going to come and live with you.
It was just it was so nice. It was it was a beautiful
welcoming. I think it really made Ara feel
supported and accepted. And I loved how she kept
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throwing around the mom and dad and it was, it was so cute.
And then to go back to his houseand to see the way that they
decorated it with, you know, thecard and the flower petals, the
balloons and the champagne, like, I teared up a little bit.
I thought that was so thoughtful, so considerate, so
loving. What a great way to continue to
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welcome her. Like there was that forethought
in it. And I just really appreciate,
appreciated that Andy's parents went out of their way to welcome
her to the family. And not having it all on Andy,
you know, there's only so much that he can do to make her feel
welcome. And I think they really went
over and above to make sure thatthey did what they can to make
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her feel welcome in the UKI. Don't think we've ever seen that
where the couple goes home and the friends and family have
decorated to welcome them, but they're not there as well to
give them their privacy, which was perfect.
I also found that very touching that they they had left gifts
and cards and decorations everywhere for them when they
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got back to his flat. But you failed to mention the
most important thing of all, which I cannot believe.
The cat. The orange cat.
The beautiful, beautiful kitten,Yes.
What is the cat's name? How floofy is it?
May we see it again? Please feel like they.
Greeted the cat, but I didn't write down the name and the cat
wasn't super floofy. No short hair, but I want to
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know more about the cat. Yes, and why have we not seen
more of the cat? This should not be a side
character. I mean, we've met Finn's cat
several times. Come on, Andy, you're holding
out. Yes, he is.
Next up, Ara goes shopping for the very first time in England.
And I just found this so wonderful, so funny.
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Buys cheese. She was so.
Excited in that cheese aisle? Four different kinds of cheese.
4 bags of cheese. Unbelievable.
She buys sausages and beans and she's planning to give Andy a
heart attack. No, an English breakfast.
She's so cute about the cheese. She's so excited.
I don't know where that comes from, but it was delightful.
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And then when she brought it home and showed it to him and he
was finding more cheese in the bag after she'd already shown
him three of them, it was just adorable.
Just the way that they giggled together and how she was like,
this is my payment for for making this.
And he's like, there better not be another one in there.
Oh no, there was another one. Like there was no chastising.
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It was just like a beautiful, organic interaction between the
two of them and I just adored seeing how excited she got over
something as phenomenal and fantastic as she's all good.
Then she cooks a meal and I don't know why she said she
doesn't cook and she needed She was calling for mom's help
because she did an excellent job.
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It looked very. Authentic.
Fantastic. I think that she was pulling our
legs. She's definitely cooked before.
And of course, the next experience has to be the
quintessential English 1. Going to the pub, they go to
meet Andy's friends, his two closest female friends who are
as a little bit nervous about meeting, but everything goes
great with that too. Oh, they just, they had so much
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fun. Their laughter was contagious.
You know, I really could have done without hearing about all
their baby making stuff. I'm happy to hear that they're
trying and that is part of theirlife goal.
Fantastic. Just didn't need.
The detail, OK, we got a little bit of insight into the
timeline. I was hoping that we would when
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they initially sat down with thefriends and the friends said, so
you've gone from dating to meeting to getting engaged to
having a wedding to moving to England in the space of a few.
Months. I missed that.
Uh huh. A few months, not even a year.
Unbelievable. So, so quick, and yet they get
along so well. Their, their relationship is
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just, it's so pure. And I'm really curious to know
how they were able to do things in such a quick secession
because obviously we've seen, especially with David and
Sheila, how difficult it's been to get Sheila's visa.
So why were they able to do it so quickly?
Different country, OK, Yeah, different country.
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Sorry, Americans. Easy, you got to be UK citizen.
Good to know. Anyway, I really, really enjoyed
their their segment. I love watching the way that
they interact, how they're both constantly laughing, how it just
looks like they're beaming like red hearts out of their eyes
when they look at each other. And I also loved how it was
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seamless for Ara to fit in with his friends and for her to say,
Oh my God, they're louder than Iam.
I think that that gave her that comfort to really be herself.
Like their banter was so funny. I felt like at 1.1 of them was
going to fall off their chairs. They were laughing so hard.
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Like it was just so wonderful. And I can only imagine how Andy
felt in this moment to see his two worlds collide in just such
an easy fashion. I guess their their entire
segment was absolutely perfection.
Just the way that they go out oftheir way for each other, their
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beautiful and organic relationship.
And I mean, what's the timeline?OK, now we don't care.
I'm fine still still. Curious about that though.
You know, sometimes it just works and that's what it looks
like for them. And I really, really hope for
the best. I don't think we have to.
Hope for the best it they're going to succeed no matter what
because every aspect of their relationship has happened so
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naturally and has resulted in such success meeting the friends
meeting the family organizing the wedding getting her to come
to the UK having her integrate into the society getting her
first job right away yes I'm so.Proud of her like she's not one
of those that just, you know, sits back and it's like, oh, I'm
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going to try to acclimate. Oh, no.
She immediately goes grocery shopping.
She immerses herself in the culture by making the the
English breakfast, which I've never had one of my own, despite
my visits to England. You know, just the effort that
she's putting in, like she's just really embraced it.
And it's just, it's so adorable.Really, really wish that they
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would record her the next time she goes to the grocery store,
maybe even a bigger one, a different one with like a
massive deli selection of cheese.
Can you imagine how overwhelmed she's going to be?
But like in the best way possible her.
She's like, not lactose. Intolerant.
I mean, maybe she. Is, but she's enjoying it at
this point. Yeah, another.
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Cute thing that happened that I adored was Andy taking her to
the very, very fancy hotel to celebrate her having gotten her
first job in England. They are loving their life
together. She says she's happy with the
choices she's made. She doesn't regret any decision
she's made so far. Everything has been worth it.
What more could you ask for? I mean, I can't ask for.
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Anything else as a viewer? So I think that that says a lot.
OK, shall we read on? We have one final couple to wrap
up for this season, and that is Xena and Abraham.
Oh dear. So we start off with Xena taking
her granddaughter Tilly to a garden center.
They're catching up together. Xena shows Tilly the engagement
(24:18):
ring. Tilly is shocked.
She asks a very important question.
Why do you think he wants to marry you?
And Xena is just spouting the same old garbage that she has
been all season. Well, he tells me that he loves
me and he thinks I'm his soul mate, OK?
But why? Why was she surprised that Tilly
was surprised? Yeah, of course.
(24:40):
We already knew that the family wasn't very keen on Xena having
this boyfriend and now fiance, so of course it was going to be
an uphill battle. But Xena needs to have better
arguments for herself. She doesn't need to fight with
people, she just needs to have better facts to rely on when she
gets into discussions with people.
Because this is where it falls flat.
He loves me and he thinks I'm his soul mate.
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Words are cheap, right? Talk is cheap.
Actions speak louder than words.All of those things are out
there for a reason. What has he actually done for
you, Zena, that proves that he loves you?
He's asked you for money. He's asked you for gifts.
He's told you not to dance, not to drink, not to do this or that
he's lied about. Having social media, yes.
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And who even knows? About his family situation right
now are his nephews, nieces and nephews, his kids, is his
sister, his wife? Like, there's just so many
questions. And, you know, before she even
left to go to the Gambia, she was, I need him to, you know,
tell me what all this is about. And then she just lets it go.
(25:45):
Yeah, what? It's so disappointing the.
Lack of follow through that Xenahas had and even when she's
decided OK that I'm going to call him, I'm going to tell him
my reasons because she of coursedecides that it's not the right
course of action for her to get married to him like the reason
she gives. Her so flimsy, Yes, very.
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Go find somebody your own age. What?
And then she. Says that he wants something
serious, but she doesn't. What?
Yeah. Like where did that come?
Came from Yeah, she was talking.About possibly getting engaged
beforehand, which is why I wondered why she was surprised
that Tilly was surprised that she got engaged.
Like, she's just so waffly with this man, though I'm proud of
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her for breaking it off because obviously that was the best
thing that she could have done. But like, again, she doesn't
want anything serious. Since when?
Yeah. That's not the message that
we've had from the beginning of the season with her, not at all.
And it made me think because of how quickly she transitioned
from okay Ibrahim, go and be happy and don't be upset.
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Bye bye to picking up the phone and going.
I'm going to start a dating app profile and maybe I'll try this
country and said it's much closer.
I wondered if she hasn't alreadytaken that next step because she
did it so easily dumping Ibrahimthat it really felt as if her
her emotions are so far uninvested in this man that
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they've probably gone somewhere else.
She's probably already started talking to other people, yes or
a person. I got that feeling.
As well because it was a. Very, very cold dumping.
I did not feel bad. For him in the slightest.
I love that. She was like, no, I don't like
looking at you when you're this upset.
Though. I don't think I saw any tears.
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He was not crying. No, he was not.
He's just disappointed that now he's lost his cash cow and now
he's going to have to bark up some other tree and then he's
going to have to explain it to his family.
Yeah. Yeah.
Now she's gone. Now we don't have this income.
Now we can't rely on them for this.
And anyway, good for her for breaking it off.
I do. I do hope the best for her.
(28:01):
And I really hope that she continues to sit on her family
because it seems as though thereare a lot more grounded than she
is at. Tilly is so incredibly
insightful and emotionally mature for someone of her age.
Because I think she's only like 19, right?
Not sure either. Way.
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I love the way that. She called Xena out the she was
so articulate and clear with herconcerns and her questions and
she's just an excellent communicator.
I find her very impressive, whatyou said.
About Abraham going and finding some other victim to get money
from, I agree with you wholeheartedly.
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I think that's what he'll do. But I also felt like there's a
very good chance that he will continue to be in contact with
Zena. They did say we'll talk, we'll
speak with you soon, that he's going to guilt trip her into a
few more gifts at least before he will finally let her go in
(29:03):
order to bridge the gap between her and whoever is next on his
list. And she will probably be sending
him some money because she feelsbadly that she's dumped him.
I can definitely see. That yeah, it was such.
An abrupt ending to this relationship that I I felt like
we weren't being told the whole story.
Either she has already had something in the background
(29:24):
going on with somebody else and that's why she's able to do it
so quickly and easily. Or they're going to continue
with some type of relationship, though probably not a romantic
one anymore, and he will continue to use her as much as
he can, if not suck her back in.I don't know.
That is always possible. I don't know, it didn't.
Seem as though he really tried too hard to talk her out of her
(29:45):
decision. No, no.
I. Think he was leaving that for
later on I guess. I guess.
We'll see. But anyway, I'm happy for her.
I hope she's happy with her decisions because I am happy
that she broke up with him. I am too.
Any more money? But I mean, we've seen some
spoilers online. Let's not get into those, but I
(30:07):
guess we'll see. Yeah.
So we. Have one more episode left,
which is the tell all next week.Looks like it should be
interesting. I'm glad they didn't give too
much away. So now we can't.
I don't know. Sometimes it's just it's so easy
to tell how it's going to go. And it's like, I'm really not
looking forward to this. But they really didn't give us
anything. So I'm still hopeful that the
(30:28):
tell all is going to be entertaining.
Yeah. And I think.
The sound bites that they were using to tease us about the tell
all were actually taking from this season.
So there's nothing that was new that could have revealed
anything to us. But I do have some predictions.
I think Finn and Sandra will be done.
Shorna and Adnan are definitely done.
(30:49):
Think the Shannon and Mehta willstill be together.
That will be going well. Sam and Ally.
Oh, God, I hope that that's done.
Marco and Sarah, I'm sure they'll still be going strong.
And of course, our And Andy. Yeah, nothing's going to tear
those two apart. What about you?
Any predictions? Zena is going to have a new.
Man. But otherwise I completely agree
with with your. OK, Thank you.
Thank you. Very much.
(31:10):
We'll see if any of them come true next week.
I cannot wait. Dramatic.
Any final comments on this season?
No, I found it very. Enjoyable.
It was an absolute breath of fresh air in comparison to the
US. I've enjoyed quite a few of
these couples, though obviously there are there are the villains
that I never want to see on my screen again.
(31:31):
Hopefully we won't have to. I'm really pleased with how this
all went about. And I'm also glad that, you
know, we, we decided to cover this because the first couple
episodes were just so good. We absolutely had to talk about
it. So I'm really glad that we got
to experience that together, even though we would have even
without the podcast. But it's just really nice to be
(31:53):
able to share our experience with with the listeners.
And anyway, thank you for agreeing to do that.
My pleasure. Thank you.
Thank you. What are your your last
thoughts? I agree the.
UK is always a stunning version of 90 Day Fiance.
Never disappoints. I would like them to do a spin
off with R and Andy. I really want to see what
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happens next with them. So if the 90 day UK producers
were interested in doing a happily ever after, I would be
interested in watching that. Just so long as they don't have
Salmon Alley on it, thank you very much.
And chicken. Oh well, I don't think they're
together anymore anyway. So.
But I don't know, they just keep.
Putting out music videos keep them off my.
(32:34):
Screen as well regardless of whether they're together or not
thank you very much I mean if. We could ask for one thing from
90 day UK. No more of them.
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