September 22, 2025 • 33 mins
Final episode! Monica and Bernardo spend her last night together. Amber realizes that Keavan is the better choice for her and hopes it’s not too late. Harold and Amber have a glorious final date and agree on their path forward. Victoria and Darren have some secrets… this couple has been holding out on us! Sarah and EJ say goodbye.
** The updates we provide at the end of the episode neglect to mention Harold's continued bad luck (IYKYK), sorry for the omission!
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Hi Amy, Debbie, we just watched Match Me Abroad season 2 episode
14. It's the last one.
Sad face. I know, like how do I say how
sad I am the word sad? I could just use that one.
I found that the episode just seemed so incredibly short.
Like I still want more. Yeah, I know.
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That's all we get though. It's done, it's finished.
Just. Disappointing, but also such a
lovely season. It was I wanted to shout out to
our listeners and viewers say thank you so much for supporting
our podcasts during the season of Match Me Abroad.
It's been a delight to hear fromyou so often.
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We love the comments. Keep them coming.
So I have a couple that I'd liketo share from YouTube from last
week. We've got Liz 2024 saying
listening to you has been the best part of this season.
Oh, thank you. So sweet.
I love. That then we also have Vinny
Wilk, who said Monica is immature, agreed.
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She wants the fun and free life of a Sweet Valley teenager.
She just wants to make out with guys.
Victoria has been the victim of the nice guy.
Darren doesn't want to be not nice.
That's a lot of double negatives, but you get it.
What do you think about the comment for Monica wanting to
make out with all the guys? I agree and she does nothing but
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continue to exemplify that in her last episode.
Does she ever I mean this? This comment was very prescient
given that it was made a week ago and what we saw last night
was what it was. Yeah, we'll get there.
Yes, we will. And then before I do the 1-2,
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I'd like to remind everybody that we have our interview with
EJ Phillip, which is coming up on September 28th.
We would love to share that withyou.
So please then now before we dive in, we have the one and two
one rate review and follow us wherever you listen to the
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Honestly, when we talk about this episode, I think it's a
good idea if we discuss it as ifthe information that was
provided at the very, very end that we didn't have that.
Let us begin with Monica. Oh, Lord, sweet Monica.
I just, I can't, I can't anymorewith Monica.
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It's painful. Yeah.
To watch somebody make such a big mistake and then to purport.
It as like I found love again and you know, I love myself and
I'm like, do you questionable? Do you really?
Also questionable is Bernardo arriving at the door the very
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same night that she dumped Bruno.
Sweet Bruno. So she's wearing the same
clothes, Everything is the same.He arrives at the door with a
bottle of wine and Monica immediately starts giggling.
And apologizing. And.
Bernardo immediately sticks his tongue down her throat, which is
his only response, it seems, to anything she says.
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Yeah, he was just trying to shuther up because it's the only
thing that he wants. But when we saw him walking down
the halls of the hotel with the the wine, I'm like, oh, she
called him. And of course, he's meeting her
in her hotel room. It's her last night.
This is his opportunity. Yes, yes, but isn't it funny
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that, I mean, his intentions arevery clear from the moment he
steps in the door and shove his shoves his tongue down her
throat and carries a bottle of wine that he also almost
immediately says to her, oh, I'mnot going to spend the night
because I have to work and I'm not going to take you to the
airport. Like all of the boyfriend
behaviors he's opting out of as soon as possible, making the
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excuses for that for not going to sleep over and I'm not going
to take you to the airport. OK, honey, we got that.
I'm just going to F you. Sweet.
So gentle and kind. So romantic, love it.
So there's not much talking going on.
It's really just sipping wine and then kissing.
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Sipping wine, kissing. There was one bit of body
language. I don't know if you caught it,
but I wanted to talk to you about it because I find it
really fascinating and I'm not sure if it means anything.
Initially, when Bernardo and Monica hugged, he wrapped one
arm around her, but he had a closed fist.
It's not like wrapping your arm around somebody and then patting
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them on the back of the back, shoulder, head, anything.
It was a closed fist and I was like, what is that?
Is that a way subconsciously to keep distance from somebody
because you know you're you, you're not touching.
When was your hand? Or am I reading in too much?
I didn't notice it so I haven't had time to to contemplate that
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though. I think I think you could be on
to something. I think just the single arm hug
is suggestive enough. I mean, he did have a bottle of
wine. Maybe he just didn't want to
smash her in the head with it, which is kind.
Well, it wasn't his hand that was holding something, it was
his empty hand that he had goingaround for the hug.
So that's why I noticed it. That's why it stood out to me.
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I just meant that maybe that's why he didn't do the double the
double armed hug Like a real hug.
Yeah. Yeah, but I mean, what a display
of affection for two people who thought they were never going to
see each other again. A1 armed hug.
Yeah, well, sorry, I'm a little bit disgusted by this whole
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thing. Monica brings up the fact that
once she goes back to the UnitedStates, which is the next day,
that she wants to keep in touch and that he needs to improve on
his texting skills in order to make her feel like she's getting
what she needs out of the relationship.
And he solemnly promises to do that, which seemed to me just
like he's saying yes to absolutely anything and
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everything she says because he'sgot his eye on the goal, which
is to sleep with her. Monica is just gone Onzo.
She is. She's emotional, she's crying,
she's whispering, she's sipping her wine, she's gazing into her
eyes, into his eyes with all that, you know, the love and
trippy birdies and everything. Because the way that.
She was batting her eyes at him.I was like, how much do you do
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you even know about each other? And now apparently, you're in
love. And somehow you have also found
yourself, even though you have found yourself perpetuating the
cycle of toxic relationships that your daughter so wanted you
to break. Yeah.
It's, it's very much pertains tothe comment that we got from our
listener or viewer who said, youknow, Monica's immature.
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She just, she wants to have thisteenage fantasy love romance
life. And so she's not actually living
in the adult world. She's doing all of the things
that make her feel like she's ina movie, having those Harlequin
romance moments. I think I said at one point in
my notes, she's looking for the Pretty Woman moment, but she
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doesn't get it, you know? And worst of all, the things
that she said to Bernardo, including the I Love yous, she
promises to pay for him to come to the United States.
Oh, that was that was the worst part for me.
It's like, oh, now you're payingfor his flight.
OK, So what does he actually have to put into this?
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He has to text you a little moreoften.
He has to make the effort of getting on the plane.
Where's was any kind of foundation outside of their
lustfulness? She's really is setting herself
up for another bad relationship by making all of the concessions
to him not holding him accountable for stuff.
Except that she did say I need to hear from you more often.
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Not like he has been doing whileshe was in Brazil, but this
offer to pay is setting her up to be his sugar Mama.
Bad dynamic. Don't go there.
I thought that it really highlighted her insecurity
because obviously she can't trust that he's going to go
there on her own, so now she hasto provide incentive.
So I'll just pay for you and then you're more likely to
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actually come and visit. Yeah, yeah.
Not waiting for him to so show interest and want to come.
Just I'm going to give you a ticket.
I'm going to pay for it, make ithappen.
No effort required on your part.Great.
And you also get to come and visit the US, so it's like a
triple win for him. Yeah, he, I found, was saying
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everything that Monica wanted tohear, just like Louisa warned
her that he would do and that hedoes.
She's buying all of it. Everything single thing that he
says, she buys it. She believes it and then we get
the scene where Louisa comes by.This is the next morning to say
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goodbye to Monica, and the firstthing out of her mouth is how
was Bruno? Cue the cringe.
Cue the cringe and poor Louise'sface went through like a whole
rigmarole of emotions and reactions.
The incredulousness was just shelooked.
Yeah, she looked like she couldn't believe it, but she
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fully expected it. It was this wild contrast of
like what? Yeah, she was.
She was surprised to be right, even though she was the one that
called the whole thing. Poor Louisa.
She's going to drink after that one.
Yeah, but I think Louisa spot onthe money when she says that she
believes Monica will come back to her and that she will likely
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need her services again in the future.
Yes, I also loved it when Louisacalled her messy.
It's like yes she definitely is.She made a mess out of this
entire situation. But the the one good thing out
of all this is Monica saying this is something that I will
never regret, OK? Famous last words.
We'll see. Any last comments for Monica?
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No. I have no hope for for this poor
woman. She needs.
She needs therapy more than she needs matchmaker.
I tend to agree. Let's move on to Amber.
It's the aftermath of the pub scene.
Glenn is defending himself, calls her a brat, lovely, and
also calls out her behavior as deplorable.
(10:34):
Not something he would ever tolerate.
I would never be with a woman like that.
Oh of course Glenn, because you are such a prize and what she
did was so unforgivable. Not just passing the blame
totally to Amber, not mentioningany of the things that he said
to her which were awful and which incited this response from
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Amber, again, which I do not agree with.
She should not have touched the glass that was in his hands and
pushed it to the floor. But for the love of God, Glenn
is a complete arsehole. It's completely insufferable.
Yes, his gaslighting was a chef's kiss of an example of how
it how it worked, how to do it so that you trigger the person
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that is your target. Because she was literally
holding facts in her hands that were on her phone with through
those text messages. Yet he persisted in telling her
that she was lying and that it that it was a different way.
It was a different fact and for.Him to be like, no, I texted you
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when she's holding her phone. She's like when when and she's
scrolling when and he can't say anything so then he deflects
further continues to to belittleher.
Love that. I also love the fact that he had
to stay inside the bar while shehad her like little post
interaction interview so he had to walk around the bar with
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Guinness soaked. White.
Pants love that for him. Little bit of just desserts
there. Yeah, yeah.
Is he going to be? Able to get that out?
Who cares, and the least he deserves is a pair of spoiled
pants. That's all he got.
I'm not condoning violence. Ever.
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No, Amber is leaving tomorrow. The question remains, is it too
late for her to get Kevin back now?
And she does regret, she says, not having spent more time with
Kevin. But he hasn't responded to her
request to see him once more before she leaves at the point
where we see them at the beginning.
But then, surprise surprise, he shows up at her hotel room and
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it's quite a nice scene. I love the fact that she
apologizes to him. She doesn't specify what what
it's for, but she's at least acknowledging that she's really
hurt his feelings and I think hedoes deserve that.
Yeah, I agree. So I was confused when he said
that, you know, I didn't think she was interested or, you know,
something got lost in translation.
Nothing got lost in translation.She made her choice, and then
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she regretted it. Yeah, do.
You think? That wasn't lost.
No, it wasn't lost. Do you think that Mckeven had a
an issue with being the second choice?
Yeah, I think I probably triggered his insecurities a
little bit because he was reallyinterested.
So for her to go out and pick the other guy over him and then
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to come crawling back to him, I can almost see that as like an
ick for him. You know, I wasn't good enough
for you at the beginning, but you know, this guy did something
to you, obviously, so now I'm just your second choice.
Still, he might always think of himself as her second choice.
That's sad. I, I do wish that Kevin had
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stepped up a little bit earlier and been able to express him his
feelings towards Amber, and perhaps that would have
prevented her from going down the Glen route rather than not
choosing him even. But we'll never know.
I just hope that they, they bothAmber and Kievan, have had an
aha moment from this experience and learned a really valuable
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lesson for him. It would be to express himself,
to not be so afraid of his emotions and to let people know
when he's into them. And for her to realize that she
does need a good man in her life, not a toxic man like
Glenn. So I hope that their hearts are
open to those moments of growth and that they are able to
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continue. Can you?
We shall see. I hope we will see.
We have Harold next. Do you want to take it away
since he's been your favorite all season long?
He was absolutely beaming when he was looking at her, like you
could just see the excitement inhis eyes, the way that he looks
at her. I think we were worried last
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week about, Oh no, it's is he going to scare her off by saying
he wants to spend more time in Singapore, which is exactly what
Dolly told him not to say. And yet he says it and it just
it worked out. Didn't you notice that the
phrasing was different this weekas opposed to last week?
I'm not sure what the editing did there last week, he said.
Something like I want to be in Singapore longer for you.
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Yeah. And this week, he said, I'd like
to enjoy Singapore, but I'd liketo go out with you at a pace
that you're comfortable with, which is very different and much
more along the lines of what Dolly had recommended.
He say yeah. I I wasn't sure if I was mis
remembering that, but now that you brought it up, Yep, Yep.
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Because we were like, Oh no, he fumble.
Oh, no. Poor Harold.
Completely different words, though.
Yeah. And it was a resounding success.
Yes, she agrees the her answer though was a little bit funny.
Afterwards, she said she wants the planning to be casual or she
wants the dating to be casual. Probably the dating she doesn't
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want to like see him every single day so let's just keep it
chill. I don't think she's had she.
I don't think she's had an issuewith his with the dates that he
planned. I also wanted to mention that
she wants to know how things will work between them when he
goes away, which I thought was afantastic sign.
If she's already thinking of thefuture in those terms with him
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being gone and how they're goingto manage their relationship,
that's good. Really, really good.
That's a massive green flag right there for you.
Harold must be Harold. And then she flat out says, I
want to have a relationship withyou, which is the best scenario
for Harold that there ever was. This is what he's been wanting
from the beginning. And I thought his smile when she
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said that says everything that you need to know about how he's
feeling and I. Thought that was so cute because
even at the beginning of the date he was mentioning how his
face hurt from smiling so much and now he's just going to be
stuck with the perma smile. It worked out so so so well for
him. And you know, we questioned
Dolly but she proved us wrong. Harold has come so far.
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He's learned so much. He's followed almost all
directions properly with a couple little hiccups that
haven't interfered with with hissuccess.
There are two things that I justadored about this segment. 1 is
I think it was Harold who said that Dolly would be invited to
his wedding. Love that, very cute.
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And the other is that whenever he spoke to Amber, whenever he
was looking at her and he has such great on eye contact with
her, I just love it. There's so much love and respect
in his expression, in his gaze, in his attitude towards Amber.
It makes me feel really, really good about who he is, what his
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intentions are, what he's bringing to the table.
It's just, if it's like a delicious snack, I want to eat
it. Do you know what I mean?
But. Then you you also don't want to
eat it too quickly or eat it toosoon, because then you could
have saved it for a better opportunity.
And then if you do eat it, then it's gone.
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There's more he can make more he.
Can definitely make more. He can definitely make more.
I mean, he's already been on twoseasons.
Let's let's see him on 90, Yeah.Well, I would love that.
Then they have a kiss at the endof their date, which is a very
brief, very chaste kiss. But still, it's perfect for
Harold, and probably for Amber too.
What more could you ask for? Sure, perfection, but I thought.
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It was so. Lovely to watch them, especially
when in comparison to Monica andBernardo because she's all puppy
dog love eyes and he's just like.
He's no blood in your. Pants, yeah.
And then? And then sweet Harold.
It's night and day. Yeah, it's completely,
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completely. Different.
So they they chose well when they were choosing their cast
for this season because Monica is complete opposite to Harold's
and the way that they've approached their relationships,
the way that they've gone into them.
Although you could say there aresome similarities in the way
that Monica completely throws herself at the feet of whatever
man is put in front of her rightaway.
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And Harold in essence, does thattoo, where he wants to be
engaged as quickly as possible. So they do have that open spirit
towards accepting love and finding love.
But Harold was very thoughtful, very respectful and precise
about the way he went about it, whereas Monica was messy,
inconsistent, overly emotional and disrespectful in a lot of
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ways, especially towards Bruno. Just completely and utterly
immature, yeah. Shall we read on?
We have Victoria next. This was so surprising to me.
Yes. Wow, where did all this stuff
come from? I have no idea but like it was
so awkward when he first gets tothe hotel room and I'm like what
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is going on with these two? This is so strange and.
Weird. Vibes.
Yeah. And then when they were in the
in the van. He looked like he didn't know
what. To do with his hands.
So he was, you know, fiddling with the window and twirling his
thumbs and he just, he looked uncomfortable.
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I. Thought it was going to go so
badly from the moment when he arrived in our hotel room and
he's kind of joking very casually with her as if nothing
had happened. But we we know that there was
this big issue that they had yetto discuss.
And yet he was acting as if nothing was wrong when they got
in the car. And she knows she has to address
the elephant in the room. And he's behaving like the way
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you described, not making eye contact with her.
He kept looking away, and I was like, what is he avoiding?
Why is he trying to hide? What's going on here?
This is going to go so, so badly.
And it seemed like it was, in effect, going to have that, that
trajectory because he blamed hisability not to be able to be in
touch with her the night that heghosted her on a dead phone.
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And not just a dead phone. Yeah.
Which is the same excuse that Glenn used, that little jerk.
Plus, he had to catch his dog. Just this, this series of events
and the body language was just what is going on here.
And even the driver raising his eyebrows when he's talking about
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the dead phone and his dog, it'slike the driver doesn't even buy
it. Yeah, so it was so outrageous.
It was such a surprise that Victoria just takes this all in
stride. She believes him, gives her the
benefit of the doubt, and they just continue on.
I was like, what, what? How can she sweep this under the
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carpet? Why isn't she reacting more
negatively towards this? Why isn't she talking more?
She said she had all of these things she wanted to discuss
with him about her fear of abandonment and her issues and
her dad and all that stuff, and nothing was addressed.
Then when they're at the airport, or maybe it was before,
he says that he's going to come to New York in four months, but
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for work, he said he. Used for that too because he's
like, I'm completely booked for the next 3 so that the next
business trip I will take will be to New York.
Yeah, it. Seemed like maybe he's going to
New York to do some comedy gigs and that he will also see her
while he's there. OK, I, I did not sense any
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romantic tension between these two at all.
Even when they're at the airportand they do have this little
kiss, very brief, very quick Peck.
I was like, OK, it's still not feeling it.
There's still no romance going on here.
What is it? And then she drops that bomb on
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us. And I was like, wait, what?
You. Not only did you have another
kiss previously, but they hookedup.
Yeah, on the night that she wenton a double date with Amber and
Glenn, Victoria and Darren went back to her hotel and enjoyed
some adult time together. Was that before or after his
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phone died? This was before that, the double
date I think was the night before she had the date with
Darren where he ghosted her because of the dog on the phone,
right? I can't.
I can't keep track of this seemingly nonsensical timeline.
What? Really floored me after we found
out that they'd slept together, was that Victoria is aware of
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the fact that when they're on camera that it looks like they
don't actually like each other. And she called our attention to
that and said when we're off camera it's a different story.
You guys in essence don't know. I'm like.
This is the whole point. Where we're here to watch, to
see how things are between you. And if you're pretending like
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nothing's going on when the cameras are on you, then we
don't get the real picture. Yeah, and I wonder if there's an
element of, I don't know, privacy, like just not going
overboard with the PDA's on camera.
Or maybe it was just the physical presence of the cameras
and the camera people that made them both awkward.
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More so him. And then I was thinking about
that in the van when he couldn'teven look at her.
I wonder if it's because he was like, if he looked at her then
he was going to start laughing. So she wouldn't have been able
to finish her conversation with him.
So he was trying to keep his composure and I think that's why
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he was he was fiddling so much. Maybe it wasn't nerves at all.
Maybe it was just awkward person.
Who? Yeah.
And then, I don't know, I could definitely see them just having
that that random giggle fest if they did look at each other.
I can't believe that I'll buy it.
Definitely can see that. Shall we read on?
Yes, our final couple is Sarah and EJ.
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It's time to go. EJ goes to Sarah and her moms
hotel to escort them to the airport.
Lovely, lovely. Sarah says that she wants to
continue to work on things. But she also says when they are
on their way to the airport thatthey weren't on good terms.
Yes, but was that because of theconversation about the timeline
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or did something else happen? I got the.
Impression it was because of thetimeline.
I didn't feel like when he arrived at the hotel that there
was any tension between them that would suggest that they had
had some kind of a falling out. Aside from the fact that the
dinner the night before didn't go as well as she would have
wanted it to. Yeah, that's fair.
And I thought it was very interesting that in the car on
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the way to the airport, mom asksabout the two year plan and EJ
does not really give an answer. He says something like, I don't
know where things are going to go, but I'm hopeful what that
that's no information at all to a very direct question about
your two year plan. Tell me about that.
Talk to me about that. Is there any flexibility I love?
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That for him, though, because itjust seems as though that the
both of them, Sarah and her mom,that they don't respect his
timeline. And then at the airport, Sarah's
mom was saying, oh, you know, there's always room for
compromise or maybe he'll changehis mind or something.
And that's not why you get into a relationship.
If he has his own timeline, thenrespect that.
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If. He chooses.
To do something different, that's on him.
That's not for you and Sarah. To sit there and push, press bug
nag no. I think it was very clear at
this point, EJ has already made-up his mind and he's come
to the conclusion that because their timelines don't match,
there is no future for them. It's it was written all over his
(26:57):
face. I thought he's definitely said
it, yeah. Yeah, especially when Sarah
invites him to Houston and he looks like he wants to be
anywhere but there. He's like, I'm going to duck
behind the suitcase and roll on out of the airport.
Yeah, his face when she invites him to Houston was just how long
is the flight? 24 hours.
And then think his final words are I wish we could do more.
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And it was so short lived. It was short lived.
So that's, that's a goodbye and thank, see here and thank you
for all the fish. And he is he's right in the end,
there is no other option becauseshe has her firm deadline and he
has his much longer timeline. The two don't don't match in any
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way unless as you said, either one of them were to make a
change, but I don't think that'slikely.
So there is no way to make this work.
Now, and I think logistically, like he's got his gems and she
does whatever she does. So was there ever a thought of
who would even be moving where? I think she was going to move
there. She has a jewelry business.
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Anyway, I loved how noncommittalhe was with all of his responses
and again, his face that was just so not into it.
He did seem to get a little emotional about it at the end,
but I wonder if it was just because he was disappointed
that, you know, it really didn'tturn out the way that he had
hoped or you. Know, I think he was.
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What could have been? I think he might have felt badly
about hurting Sarah. It was obvious that she was
hurt. She really, really wanted this
fantasy moment where he would bedeclaring himself and basically
throwing himself at her feet, saying I'm coming next week to
see you. Like I can't bear to be apart
from you. I will change everything.
She was hoping for something along those lines with a grand
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gesture, and he had already made-up his mind.
For him, it was just a goodbye. For her, it was let me see if I
can turn this around. But that was just pure fantasy
dreamland stuff. I thought that was just so
selfish of her. How selfish.
Just let the man be. He doesn't.
Want to follow your timeline? Stop trying to convince him.
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But she obviously does have feelings for him.
She has become invested in him, as misguided as that investment
is, because this is not somebodywho matches you and your life
goals. She obviously has those emotions
tied into EJ. So I felt so I felt sad for her.
I felt sorry that she's got to leave empty handed.
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But like, you know, you'll get, you'll get over it, you'll find
somebody else. She's a beautiful girl.
And then she was, she was going on about how she couldn't
believe that he let her leave. Yeah.
Would it? You had a flight that you had to
catch with your mom. Is he just?
Supposed to chase after you'd belike Oh no, I've changed my
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mind. Let's go to the bathroom.
Yeah, let's do this right now. But yes, I think that's exactly
what she wanted, for him to chase her down, tell her she
can't leave, she's got to stay and that they will be together
for every little. Find a way to make it work and
possibly let's go make babies. I think that's pushing it just a
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little bit. I'm.
Just being dramatic. I think he's too classy to do
something like that right. So then we get the updates for
each of the couples. This.
I loved this Me too so much. I loved and hated it because
some of the news was great, someof the news was not.
Great. No, I just I, I.
It feels like it just it wrappedthe entire season up in this
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beautiful little package and then we're not stuck wondering
what happened. Yeah, I felt badly for Harold
that Amber stopped talking to him when he got back to the
States. That didn't seem fair.
But on the other hand, he's found somebody else and they're
engaged. Or he was planning to propose, I
think. OK, I don't, I don't remember
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now if it said they were engagedor anyway doesn't matter.
Obviously, EJ and Sarah did not communicate whatsoever after she
returned to the United States, but she has found some beautiful
man to be with, so she has a a lovely romantic love story
happening. She described it as like a fairy
tale. Barf Monica is still with
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Bernardo. They didn't talk about him
having visited her yet. I think he that is still the
plan and he is texting her a little bit more often.
So yay for low expectations being fulfilled.
I don't know if there's anythingyay about that because I don't
trust that he's being faithful. Yeah, can of worms cannot open
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right now. Victoria and Darren, he did go
to New York. They are still hanging out.
Surprise of the season relationship.
Yeah, also didn't see that coming, you know, but I could
see him going to New York, but probably after they'd already
called it off, so good for them.Amber no more contact with Kevin
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when she went home, but she did reconnect with somebody that she
knew in the States and they're expecting a baby.
Wow. Also wasn't expecting that.
So many surprises. But now she is expecting.
Am I right? No update for Tony and we don't
care. Yes, that is correct.
Do you have more Tony? Do you have any final comments
for this season? I mean, I love that EJ and Sarah
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didn't end up together. I called that from the very
beginning. Harold obviously love him.
Disappointed that it didn't workout with Amber, but I'm very
glad that he has found someone else.
I hope this one is a little moreserious and is working at the
pace that he wants. I enjoyed this season so much,
as always. I hope there's a third one.
I hope it comes sooner than thisone did so we don't have quite
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as long a gap in between. Just an amazing season with so
many surprises and so many twists and turns along the way.
It was just so enjoyable. This podcast today is almost
bittersweet, like I don't want it to end, you know, with you,
with your little sweet treat. Just want to eat it right up.
But I really think that they didan absolutely phenomenal job
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with with the casting and it wasso refreshing to actually see
genuine couples and genuine encounters and not worrying
about production stepping in andfeeding lions or whatever.
Like it's just so genuine and authentic.
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Well, is it? That's one of the things I want
to talk to EJ about when we discuss with him next week.
So. Well, we'll find out, OK.
Something to look forward to. Don't forget September 28th DJ
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Hi Amy, Debbie, we just watched Match Me Abroad season 2 episode
14. It's the last one.
Sad face. I know, like how do I say how
sad I am the word sad? I could just use that one.
I found that the episode just seemed so incredibly short.
Like I still want more. Yeah, I know.
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That's all we get though. It's done, it's finished.
Just. Disappointing, but also such a
lovely season. It was I wanted to shout out to
our listeners and viewers say thank you so much for supporting
our podcasts during the season of Match Me Abroad.
It's been a delight to hear fromyou so often.
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We love the comments. Keep them coming.
So I have a couple that I'd liketo share from YouTube from last
week. We've got Liz 2024 saying
listening to you has been the best part of this season.
Oh, thank you. So sweet.
I love. That then we also have Vinny
Wilk, who said Monica is immature, agreed.
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She wants the fun and free life of a Sweet Valley teenager.
She just wants to make out with guys.
Victoria has been the victim of the nice guy.
Darren doesn't want to be not nice.
That's a lot of double negatives, but you get it.
What do you think about the comment for Monica wanting to
make out with all the guys? I agree and she does nothing but
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continue to exemplify that in her last episode.
Does she ever I mean this? This comment was very prescient
given that it was made a week ago and what we saw last night
was what it was. Yeah, we'll get there.
Yes, we will. And then before I do the 1-2,
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I'd like to remind everybody that we have our interview with
EJ Phillip, which is coming up on September 28th.
We would love to share that withyou.
So please then now before we dive in, we have the one and two
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Honestly, when we talk about this episode, I think it's a
good idea if we discuss it as ifthe information that was
provided at the very, very end that we didn't have that.
Let us begin with Monica. Oh, Lord, sweet Monica.
I just, I can't, I can't anymorewith Monica.
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It's painful. Yeah.
To watch somebody make such a big mistake and then to purport.
It as like I found love again and you know, I love myself and
I'm like, do you questionable? Do you really?
Also questionable is Bernardo arriving at the door the very
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same night that she dumped Bruno.
Sweet Bruno. So she's wearing the same
clothes, Everything is the same.He arrives at the door with a
bottle of wine and Monica immediately starts giggling.
And apologizing. And.
Bernardo immediately sticks his tongue down her throat, which is
his only response, it seems, to anything she says.
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Yeah, he was just trying to shuther up because it's the only
thing that he wants. But when we saw him walking down
the halls of the hotel with the the wine, I'm like, oh, she
called him. And of course, he's meeting her
in her hotel room. It's her last night.
This is his opportunity. Yes, yes, but isn't it funny
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that, I mean, his intentions arevery clear from the moment he
steps in the door and shove his shoves his tongue down her
throat and carries a bottle of wine that he also almost
immediately says to her, oh, I'mnot going to spend the night
because I have to work and I'm not going to take you to the
airport. Like all of the boyfriend
behaviors he's opting out of as soon as possible, making the
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excuses for that for not going to sleep over and I'm not going
to take you to the airport. OK, honey, we got that.
I'm just going to F you. Sweet.
So gentle and kind. So romantic, love it.
So there's not much talking going on.
It's really just sipping wine and then kissing.
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Sipping wine, kissing. There was one bit of body
language. I don't know if you caught it,
but I wanted to talk to you about it because I find it
really fascinating and I'm not sure if it means anything.
Initially, when Bernardo and Monica hugged, he wrapped one
arm around her, but he had a closed fist.
It's not like wrapping your arm around somebody and then patting
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them on the back of the back, shoulder, head, anything.
It was a closed fist and I was like, what is that?
Is that a way subconsciously to keep distance from somebody
because you know you're you, you're not touching.
When was your hand? Or am I reading in too much?
I didn't notice it so I haven't had time to to contemplate that
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though. I think I think you could be on
to something. I think just the single arm hug
is suggestive enough. I mean, he did have a bottle of
wine. Maybe he just didn't want to
smash her in the head with it, which is kind.
Well, it wasn't his hand that was holding something, it was
his empty hand that he had goingaround for the hug.
So that's why I noticed it. That's why it stood out to me.
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I just meant that maybe that's why he didn't do the double the
double armed hug Like a real hug.
Yeah. Yeah, but I mean, what a display
of affection for two people who thought they were never going to
see each other again. A1 armed hug.
Yeah, well, sorry, I'm a little bit disgusted by this whole
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thing. Monica brings up the fact that
once she goes back to the UnitedStates, which is the next day,
that she wants to keep in touch and that he needs to improve on
his texting skills in order to make her feel like she's getting
what she needs out of the relationship.
And he solemnly promises to do that, which seemed to me just
like he's saying yes to absolutely anything and
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everything she says because he'sgot his eye on the goal, which
is to sleep with her. Monica is just gone Onzo.
She is. She's emotional, she's crying,
she's whispering, she's sipping her wine, she's gazing into her
eyes, into his eyes with all that, you know, the love and
trippy birdies and everything. Because the way that.
She was batting her eyes at him.I was like, how much do you do
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you even know about each other? And now apparently, you're in
love. And somehow you have also found
yourself, even though you have found yourself perpetuating the
cycle of toxic relationships that your daughter so wanted you
to break. Yeah.
It's, it's very much pertains tothe comment that we got from our
listener or viewer who said, youknow, Monica's immature.
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She just, she wants to have thisteenage fantasy love romance
life. And so she's not actually living
in the adult world. She's doing all of the things
that make her feel like she's ina movie, having those Harlequin
romance moments. I think I said at one point in
my notes, she's looking for the Pretty Woman moment, but she
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doesn't get it, you know? And worst of all, the things
that she said to Bernardo, including the I Love yous, she
promises to pay for him to come to the United States.
Oh, that was that was the worst part for me.
It's like, oh, now you're payingfor his flight.
OK, So what does he actually have to put into this?
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He has to text you a little moreoften.
He has to make the effort of getting on the plane.
Where's was any kind of foundation outside of their
lustfulness? She's really is setting herself
up for another bad relationship by making all of the concessions
to him not holding him accountable for stuff.
Except that she did say I need to hear from you more often.
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Not like he has been doing whileshe was in Brazil, but this
offer to pay is setting her up to be his sugar Mama.
Bad dynamic. Don't go there.
I thought that it really highlighted her insecurity
because obviously she can't trust that he's going to go
there on her own, so now she hasto provide incentive.
So I'll just pay for you and then you're more likely to
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actually come and visit. Yeah, yeah.
Not waiting for him to so show interest and want to come.
Just I'm going to give you a ticket.
I'm going to pay for it, make ithappen.
No effort required on your part.Great.
And you also get to come and visit the US, so it's like a
triple win for him. Yeah, he, I found, was saying
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everything that Monica wanted tohear, just like Louisa warned
her that he would do and that hedoes.
She's buying all of it. Everything single thing that he
says, she buys it. She believes it and then we get
the scene where Louisa comes by.This is the next morning to say
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goodbye to Monica, and the firstthing out of her mouth is how
was Bruno? Cue the cringe.
Cue the cringe and poor Louise'sface went through like a whole
rigmarole of emotions and reactions.
The incredulousness was just shelooked.
Yeah, she looked like she couldn't believe it, but she
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fully expected it. It was this wild contrast of
like what? Yeah, she was.
She was surprised to be right, even though she was the one that
called the whole thing. Poor Louisa.
She's going to drink after that one.
Yeah, but I think Louisa spot onthe money when she says that she
believes Monica will come back to her and that she will likely
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need her services again in the future.
Yes, I also loved it when Louisacalled her messy.
It's like yes she definitely is.She made a mess out of this
entire situation. But the the one good thing out
of all this is Monica saying this is something that I will
never regret, OK? Famous last words.
We'll see. Any last comments for Monica?
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No. I have no hope for for this poor
woman. She needs.
She needs therapy more than she needs matchmaker.
I tend to agree. Let's move on to Amber.
It's the aftermath of the pub scene.
Glenn is defending himself, calls her a brat, lovely, and
also calls out her behavior as deplorable.
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Not something he would ever tolerate.
I would never be with a woman like that.
Oh of course Glenn, because you are such a prize and what she
did was so unforgivable. Not just passing the blame
totally to Amber, not mentioningany of the things that he said
to her which were awful and which incited this response from
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Amber, again, which I do not agree with.
She should not have touched the glass that was in his hands and
pushed it to the floor. But for the love of God, Glenn
is a complete arsehole. It's completely insufferable.
Yes, his gaslighting was a chef's kiss of an example of how
it how it worked, how to do it so that you trigger the person
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that is your target. Because she was literally
holding facts in her hands that were on her phone with through
those text messages. Yet he persisted in telling her
that she was lying and that it that it was a different way.
It was a different fact and for.Him to be like, no, I texted you
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when she's holding her phone. She's like when when and she's
scrolling when and he can't say anything so then he deflects
further continues to to belittleher.
Love that. I also love the fact that he had
to stay inside the bar while shehad her like little post
interaction interview so he had to walk around the bar with
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Guinness soaked. White.
Pants love that for him. Little bit of just desserts
there. Yeah, yeah.
Is he going to be? Able to get that out?
Who cares, and the least he deserves is a pair of spoiled
pants. That's all he got.
I'm not condoning violence. Ever.
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No, Amber is leaving tomorrow. The question remains, is it too
late for her to get Kevin back now?
And she does regret, she says, not having spent more time with
Kevin. But he hasn't responded to her
request to see him once more before she leaves at the point
where we see them at the beginning.
But then, surprise surprise, he shows up at her hotel room and
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it's quite a nice scene. I love the fact that she
apologizes to him. She doesn't specify what what
it's for, but she's at least acknowledging that she's really
hurt his feelings and I think hedoes deserve that.
Yeah, I agree. So I was confused when he said
that, you know, I didn't think she was interested or, you know,
something got lost in translation.
Nothing got lost in translation.She made her choice, and then
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she regretted it. Yeah, do.
You think? That wasn't lost.
No, it wasn't lost. Do you think that Mckeven had a
an issue with being the second choice?
Yeah, I think I probably triggered his insecurities a
little bit because he was reallyinterested.
So for her to go out and pick the other guy over him and then
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to come crawling back to him, I can almost see that as like an
ick for him. You know, I wasn't good enough
for you at the beginning, but you know, this guy did something
to you, obviously, so now I'm just your second choice.
Still, he might always think of himself as her second choice.
That's sad. I, I do wish that Kevin had
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stepped up a little bit earlier and been able to express him his
feelings towards Amber, and perhaps that would have
prevented her from going down the Glen route rather than not
choosing him even. But we'll never know.
I just hope that they, they bothAmber and Kievan, have had an
aha moment from this experience and learned a really valuable
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lesson for him. It would be to express himself,
to not be so afraid of his emotions and to let people know
when he's into them. And for her to realize that she
does need a good man in her life, not a toxic man like
Glenn. So I hope that their hearts are
open to those moments of growth and that they are able to
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continue. Can you?
We shall see. I hope we will see.
We have Harold next. Do you want to take it away
since he's been your favorite all season long?
He was absolutely beaming when he was looking at her, like you
could just see the excitement inhis eyes, the way that he looks
at her. I think we were worried last
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week about, Oh no, it's is he going to scare her off by saying
he wants to spend more time in Singapore, which is exactly what
Dolly told him not to say. And yet he says it and it just
it worked out. Didn't you notice that the
phrasing was different this weekas opposed to last week?
I'm not sure what the editing did there last week, he said.
Something like I want to be in Singapore longer for you.
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Yeah. And this week, he said, I'd like
to enjoy Singapore, but I'd liketo go out with you at a pace
that you're comfortable with, which is very different and much
more along the lines of what Dolly had recommended.
He say yeah. I I wasn't sure if I was mis
remembering that, but now that you brought it up, Yep, Yep.
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Because we were like, Oh no, he fumble.
Oh, no. Poor Harold.
Completely different words, though.
Yeah. And it was a resounding success.
Yes, she agrees the her answer though was a little bit funny.
Afterwards, she said she wants the planning to be casual or she
wants the dating to be casual. Probably the dating she doesn't
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want to like see him every single day so let's just keep it
chill. I don't think she's had she.
I don't think she's had an issuewith his with the dates that he
planned. I also wanted to mention that
she wants to know how things will work between them when he
goes away, which I thought was afantastic sign.
If she's already thinking of thefuture in those terms with him
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being gone and how they're goingto manage their relationship,
that's good. Really, really good.
That's a massive green flag right there for you.
Harold must be Harold. And then she flat out says, I
want to have a relationship withyou, which is the best scenario
for Harold that there ever was. This is what he's been wanting
from the beginning. And I thought his smile when she
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said that says everything that you need to know about how he's
feeling and I. Thought that was so cute because
even at the beginning of the date he was mentioning how his
face hurt from smiling so much and now he's just going to be
stuck with the perma smile. It worked out so so so well for
him. And you know, we questioned
Dolly but she proved us wrong. Harold has come so far.
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He's learned so much. He's followed almost all
directions properly with a couple little hiccups that
haven't interfered with with hissuccess.
There are two things that I justadored about this segment. 1 is
I think it was Harold who said that Dolly would be invited to
his wedding. Love that, very cute.
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And the other is that whenever he spoke to Amber, whenever he
was looking at her and he has such great on eye contact with
her, I just love it. There's so much love and respect
in his expression, in his gaze, in his attitude towards Amber.
It makes me feel really, really good about who he is, what his
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intentions are, what he's bringing to the table.
It's just, if it's like a delicious snack, I want to eat
it. Do you know what I mean?
But. Then you you also don't want to
eat it too quickly or eat it toosoon, because then you could
have saved it for a better opportunity.
And then if you do eat it, then it's gone.
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There's more he can make more he.
Can definitely make more. He can definitely make more.
I mean, he's already been on twoseasons.
Let's let's see him on 90, Yeah.Well, I would love that.
Then they have a kiss at the endof their date, which is a very
brief, very chaste kiss. But still, it's perfect for
Harold, and probably for Amber too.
What more could you ask for? Sure, perfection, but I thought.
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It was so. Lovely to watch them, especially
when in comparison to Monica andBernardo because she's all puppy
dog love eyes and he's just like.
He's no blood in your. Pants, yeah.
And then? And then sweet Harold.
It's night and day. Yeah, it's completely,
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completely. Different.
So they they chose well when they were choosing their cast
for this season because Monica is complete opposite to Harold's
and the way that they've approached their relationships,
the way that they've gone into them.
Although you could say there aresome similarities in the way
that Monica completely throws herself at the feet of whatever
man is put in front of her rightaway.
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And Harold in essence, does thattoo, where he wants to be
engaged as quickly as possible. So they do have that open spirit
towards accepting love and finding love.
But Harold was very thoughtful, very respectful and precise
about the way he went about it, whereas Monica was messy,
inconsistent, overly emotional and disrespectful in a lot of
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ways, especially towards Bruno. Just completely and utterly
immature, yeah. Shall we read on?
We have Victoria next. This was so surprising to me.
Yes. Wow, where did all this stuff
come from? I have no idea but like it was
so awkward when he first gets tothe hotel room and I'm like what
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is going on with these two? This is so strange and.
Weird. Vibes.
Yeah. And then when they were in the
in the van. He looked like he didn't know
what. To do with his hands.
So he was, you know, fiddling with the window and twirling his
thumbs and he just, he looked uncomfortable.
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I. Thought it was going to go so
badly from the moment when he arrived in our hotel room and
he's kind of joking very casually with her as if nothing
had happened. But we we know that there was
this big issue that they had yetto discuss.
And yet he was acting as if nothing was wrong when they got
in the car. And she knows she has to address
the elephant in the room. And he's behaving like the way
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you described, not making eye contact with her.
He kept looking away, and I was like, what is he avoiding?
Why is he trying to hide? What's going on here?
This is going to go so, so badly.
And it seemed like it was, in effect, going to have that, that
trajectory because he blamed hisability not to be able to be in
touch with her the night that heghosted her on a dead phone.
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And not just a dead phone. Yeah.
Which is the same excuse that Glenn used, that little jerk.
Plus, he had to catch his dog. Just this, this series of events
and the body language was just what is going on here.
And even the driver raising his eyebrows when he's talking about
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the dead phone and his dog, it'slike the driver doesn't even buy
it. Yeah, so it was so outrageous.
It was such a surprise that Victoria just takes this all in
stride. She believes him, gives her the
benefit of the doubt, and they just continue on.
I was like, what, what? How can she sweep this under the
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carpet? Why isn't she reacting more
negatively towards this? Why isn't she talking more?
She said she had all of these things she wanted to discuss
with him about her fear of abandonment and her issues and
her dad and all that stuff, and nothing was addressed.
Then when they're at the airport, or maybe it was before,
he says that he's going to come to New York in four months, but
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for work, he said he. Used for that too because he's
like, I'm completely booked for the next 3 so that the next
business trip I will take will be to New York.
Yeah, it. Seemed like maybe he's going to
New York to do some comedy gigs and that he will also see her
while he's there. OK, I, I did not sense any
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romantic tension between these two at all.
Even when they're at the airportand they do have this little
kiss, very brief, very quick Peck.
I was like, OK, it's still not feeling it.
There's still no romance going on here.
What is it? And then she drops that bomb on
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us. And I was like, wait, what?
You. Not only did you have another
kiss previously, but they hookedup.
Yeah, on the night that she wenton a double date with Amber and
Glenn, Victoria and Darren went back to her hotel and enjoyed
some adult time together. Was that before or after his
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phone died? This was before that, the double
date I think was the night before she had the date with
Darren where he ghosted her because of the dog on the phone,
right? I can't.
I can't keep track of this seemingly nonsensical timeline.
What? Really floored me after we found
out that they'd slept together, was that Victoria is aware of
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the fact that when they're on camera that it looks like they
don't actually like each other. And she called our attention to
that and said when we're off camera it's a different story.
You guys in essence don't know. I'm like.
This is the whole point. Where we're here to watch, to
see how things are between you. And if you're pretending like
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nothing's going on when the cameras are on you, then we
don't get the real picture. Yeah, and I wonder if there's an
element of, I don't know, privacy, like just not going
overboard with the PDA's on camera.
Or maybe it was just the physical presence of the cameras
and the camera people that made them both awkward.
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More so him. And then I was thinking about
that in the van when he couldn'teven look at her.
I wonder if it's because he was like, if he looked at her then
he was going to start laughing. So she wouldn't have been able
to finish her conversation with him.
So he was trying to keep his composure and I think that's why
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he was he was fiddling so much. Maybe it wasn't nerves at all.
Maybe it was just awkward person.
Who? Yeah.
And then, I don't know, I could definitely see them just having
that that random giggle fest if they did look at each other.
I can't believe that I'll buy it.
Definitely can see that. Shall we read on?
Yes, our final couple is Sarah and EJ.
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It's time to go. EJ goes to Sarah and her moms
hotel to escort them to the airport.
Lovely, lovely. Sarah says that she wants to
continue to work on things. But she also says when they are
on their way to the airport thatthey weren't on good terms.
Yes, but was that because of theconversation about the timeline
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or did something else happen? I got the.
Impression it was because of thetimeline.
I didn't feel like when he arrived at the hotel that there
was any tension between them that would suggest that they had
had some kind of a falling out. Aside from the fact that the
dinner the night before didn't go as well as she would have
wanted it to. Yeah, that's fair.
And I thought it was very interesting that in the car on
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the way to the airport, mom asksabout the two year plan and EJ
does not really give an answer. He says something like, I don't
know where things are going to go, but I'm hopeful what that
that's no information at all to a very direct question about
your two year plan. Tell me about that.
Talk to me about that. Is there any flexibility I love?
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That for him, though, because itjust seems as though that the
both of them, Sarah and her mom,that they don't respect his
timeline. And then at the airport, Sarah's
mom was saying, oh, you know, there's always room for
compromise or maybe he'll changehis mind or something.
And that's not why you get into a relationship.
If he has his own timeline, thenrespect that.
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If. He chooses.
To do something different, that's on him.
That's not for you and Sarah. To sit there and push, press bug
nag no. I think it was very clear at
this point, EJ has already made-up his mind and he's come
to the conclusion that because their timelines don't match,
there is no future for them. It's it was written all over his
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face. I thought he's definitely said
it, yeah. Yeah, especially when Sarah
invites him to Houston and he looks like he wants to be
anywhere but there. He's like, I'm going to duck
behind the suitcase and roll on out of the airport.
Yeah, his face when she invites him to Houston was just how long
is the flight? 24 hours.
And then think his final words are I wish we could do more.
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And it was so short lived. It was short lived.
So that's, that's a goodbye and thank, see here and thank you
for all the fish. And he is he's right in the end,
there is no other option becauseshe has her firm deadline and he
has his much longer timeline. The two don't don't match in any
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way unless as you said, either one of them were to make a
change, but I don't think that'slikely.
So there is no way to make this work.
Now, and I think logistically, like he's got his gems and she
does whatever she does. So was there ever a thought of
who would even be moving where? I think she was going to move
there. She has a jewelry business.
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Anyway, I loved how noncommittalhe was with all of his responses
and again, his face that was just so not into it.
He did seem to get a little emotional about it at the end,
but I wonder if it was just because he was disappointed
that, you know, it really didn'tturn out the way that he had
hoped or you. Know, I think he was.
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What could have been? I think he might have felt badly
about hurting Sarah. It was obvious that she was
hurt. She really, really wanted this
fantasy moment where he would bedeclaring himself and basically
throwing himself at her feet, saying I'm coming next week to
see you. Like I can't bear to be apart
from you. I will change everything.
She was hoping for something along those lines with a grand
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gesture, and he had already made-up his mind.
For him, it was just a goodbye. For her, it was let me see if I
can turn this around. But that was just pure fantasy
dreamland stuff. I thought that was just so
selfish of her. How selfish.
Just let the man be. He doesn't.
Want to follow your timeline? Stop trying to convince him.
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But she obviously does have feelings for him.
She has become invested in him, as misguided as that investment
is, because this is not somebodywho matches you and your life
goals. She obviously has those emotions
tied into EJ. So I felt so I felt sad for her.
I felt sorry that she's got to leave empty handed.
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But like, you know, you'll get, you'll get over it, you'll find
somebody else. She's a beautiful girl.
And then she was, she was going on about how she couldn't
believe that he let her leave. Yeah.
Would it? You had a flight that you had to
catch with your mom. Is he just?
Supposed to chase after you'd belike Oh no, I've changed my
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mind. Let's go to the bathroom.
Yeah, let's do this right now. But yes, I think that's exactly
what she wanted, for him to chase her down, tell her she
can't leave, she's got to stay and that they will be together
for every little. Find a way to make it work and
possibly let's go make babies. I think that's pushing it just a
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little bit. I'm.
Just being dramatic. I think he's too classy to do
something like that right. So then we get the updates for
each of the couples. This.
I loved this Me too so much. I loved and hated it because
some of the news was great, someof the news was not.
Great. No, I just I, I.
It feels like it just it wrappedthe entire season up in this
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beautiful little package and then we're not stuck wondering
what happened. Yeah, I felt badly for Harold
that Amber stopped talking to him when he got back to the
States. That didn't seem fair.
But on the other hand, he's found somebody else and they're
engaged. Or he was planning to propose, I
think. OK, I don't, I don't remember
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now if it said they were engagedor anyway doesn't matter.
Obviously, EJ and Sarah did not communicate whatsoever after she
returned to the United States, but she has found some beautiful
man to be with, so she has a a lovely romantic love story
happening. She described it as like a fairy
tale. Barf Monica is still with
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Bernardo. They didn't talk about him
having visited her yet. I think he that is still the
plan and he is texting her a little bit more often.
So yay for low expectations being fulfilled.
I don't know if there's anythingyay about that because I don't
trust that he's being faithful. Yeah, can of worms cannot open
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right now. Victoria and Darren, he did go
to New York. They are still hanging out.
Surprise of the season relationship.
Yeah, also didn't see that coming, you know, but I could
see him going to New York, but probably after they'd already
called it off, so good for them.Amber no more contact with Kevin
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when she went home, but she did reconnect with somebody that she
knew in the States and they're expecting a baby.
Wow. Also wasn't expecting that.
So many surprises. But now she is expecting.
Am I right? No update for Tony and we don't
care. Yes, that is correct.
Do you have more Tony? Do you have any final comments
for this season? I mean, I love that EJ and Sarah
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didn't end up together. I called that from the very
beginning. Harold obviously love him.
Disappointed that it didn't workout with Amber, but I'm very
glad that he has found someone else.
I hope this one is a little moreserious and is working at the
pace that he wants. I enjoyed this season so much,
as always. I hope there's a third one.
I hope it comes sooner than thisone did so we don't have quite
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as long a gap in between. Just an amazing season with so
many surprises and so many twists and turns along the way.
It was just so enjoyable. This podcast today is almost
bittersweet, like I don't want it to end, you know, with you,
with your little sweet treat. Just want to eat it right up.
But I really think that they didan absolutely phenomenal job
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with with the casting and it wasso refreshing to actually see
genuine couples and genuine encounters and not worrying
about production stepping in andfeeding lions or whatever.
Like it's just so genuine and authentic.
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Well, is it? That's one of the things I want
to talk to EJ about when we discuss with him next week.
So. Well, we'll find out, OK.
Something to look forward to. Don't forget September 28th DJ
Phillip on the podcast before wego.
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