August 22, 2025 • 18 mins
Nosh on a garlicky knish for our review of the new Netflix animated series, Long Story Short. On the menu: Animated stories with depth, complicated yet lovable characters, wolves, time jumps, Abbi Jacobson & Max Greenfield’s voice acting, and more!
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(00:00):
Hey friends, I'm Derek. That's Noah, and you're
listening to A Bite of On this episode, we are taking a bite of
the new Netflix animated series,Long story short.
A short episode on a Long story short.
(00:20):
How about that? We actually have our next two
episodes. Slash reviews are very family
focused. We didn't plan this completely
different studios, but a end of summer means dysfunctional
families. Yeah, it almost seems like there
was something in the universe saying that everybody was going
through something with their families at the same time.
(00:40):
So it's just the trend in pop culture right now.
I don't know if I like it, but Ido like these two things.
So, you know, we have the roses coming out next week.
And then obviously this week is the episode that you clicked on.
But before we get into everything, make sure you're
following us. Make sure you're subscribed to
us. Make sure you're leaving
reviews, Patreon. We have a bite of the week.
Every week. We talk about some of our
(01:01):
favorite pop culture news, movienews, TV news, whatever.
News. Yeah, it's been fun.
Yeah, been a fun time. It's like Access Hollywood, but
us. But gay?
And on a weekly basis. All right, so spoilers ahead, we
will be talking. We're not going to go into super
huge detail, but we will be talking about the first season
(01:22):
of Long story short and also thinking Netflix for give me
screeners for the whole first season.
Very lucky so let us officially take a bite of Long story short
created by Rafael Bo Walksburg meet the Schwartz Cooper
Schwooper family as they experience the trials,
tribulations and wolves. Growing up as a Jewish American
(01:43):
family through the late 90s and 2000s.
So what did you think of the Schwarz, Cooper, Schwooper
family? One, I love the name Schwooper.
Oh so good. I, I didn't finish Bojack
Horseman. What I do know about Bojack,
Bojack Horseman and the creator and everything is that they take
(02:05):
a thing and say something with it.
This show, I was very curious because there's no animals,
right? It's it's very based on a Jewish
family and what that means. I really, really enjoyed my time
with the Schwoopers. I think they played with
structure really fun in this show.
A fun way to play with structurein the show where it wasn't kind
(02:26):
of hard based in a time period. It would go all the way to the
50s to the 2000 twenties. This show does a good job of
showing a Jewish American familyand everything.
The uncles, the the married in family, what a bat mitzvah is
like, what Awake is like, all ofthis stuff but also makes it
very delightful and charming andI don't really laugh out loud
(02:51):
quickly of comedies. This one first episode was
laughing out loud. I really enjoyed my time with
it. I think it like 1030 minute
episodes was perfect. It didn't overstay its welcome,
but I did want more. Yeah, I think one of the
interesting things is going through these years with this
family, right? And within one episode, we can
(03:11):
start in 99, go to 2003, go backto 96, you know, So it's The
thing is, I think with generational trauma, let's say
you need to see the generations,right?
And you need to see these bread crumbs in these folks lives that
have led them to this point. And I think throughout the
series that can happen within one episode, but it also happens
(03:32):
throughout the entire season. And I think that's what's so
brilliant about this. You know, like you said, there
are no animals in this. I think it's definitely much
more rooted in reality compared to Bojack Horseman.
And I love that. I think that this family, I
mean, just for, for time's sake,we'll just call them the
Schwoopers rather than all threeof the names.
(03:53):
They they feel very real a lot more you know, I love this idea
of the American family that isn't so perfect, right?
We think of The Simpsons, we think of the Belchers and Bob's
Burgers and I think the Schroopers are part of that as
well. I but I think also on top of
that, they're dealing with more real world things, right?
(04:14):
We see COVID a lot in this wearing masks.
We and I think that that being rooted in reality, I think as an
audience we're able to really relate to it.
Yeah, I when I when it got to the COVID years and I saw masks
and stuff like that, it's a verylike, I don't want to
acknowledge it, you know, obviously we have to, but it's,
it's one of those things where Ifeel like right after lockdown
(04:36):
lifted, we got a lot of media with like COVID being in it and
it's like, can we just like 2 seconds?
I don't want to see it. But this I feel like oddly
enough, time ish has passed where it was an interesting take
on some of the stuff that happened with COVID, but it made
sense for the story. I I really liked the structure
of the show and I think the animation was wasn't trying to
(04:57):
do anything new, but was fresh at the same time.
So I think that they got a good mix of like getting a great
cast, doing a great story and then having the animation
pleasing to everybody. Yeah, absolutely.
I think one of the things to be said about this is that there is
joviality in the regularness of life, and there can be really
(05:18):
bizarre things in our everyday lives.
You know, there's one episode inparticular called Wolves.
And as you're going into it, you're thinking, you know, the
metaphoric wolves of life. But it turns out, spoiler alert,
during COVID, when no one was inthe school, a pack of wolves
took over the kids schools and no one knew had to do with it.
(05:38):
So the kids were going to schoolwith wolves, which is kind of
hilarious, but just was this really bizarre new normal that
everybody was just kind of like,that's a thing.
They go to school with wolves. So there are moments of joy,
there are moments of absurdity, but they still feel very rooted
in our reality as humans, which I really loved.
You know, the animation, I agree, wasn't trying to break
(06:01):
any mold here, but I think was fun and enjoyable.
And because it was animation, they got to do some sillier
things then maybe in in live action stuff.
But really part of the thing that brought these characters to
life were the amazing cast. Yeah, these voice actors.
I mean, was there anyone that stood out to you as far as voice
acting is concerned? Abby Jacobson 100%.
(06:24):
I mean, it was. I immediately clocked who it was
'cause I went into this completely blind.
I, I, you know, we got this greener.
I was like, oh, what is this? I was like, oh, creator Bajaj
Horseman. I was like, OK, interesting.
And I just, we started watching it and I was like, oh, oh,
that's that person. Oh, that's that person.
I really enjoyed Abby Jacobson. I think she probably was the
standout to me. Yoshi Max Greenfield also pretty
(06:49):
great. I think those two are maybe the
standouts for me as far as just the entirety of the entire
series. Yeah, I think of the three
siblings, you know, Avi is the older brother.
Avi is the one that I think mostacquiesces to his mother.
That was kind of a bit of the golden child.
So he kind of is more laid back.So I think Ben Feldman didn't
(07:10):
necessarily have this like standout role, but I think that
he is the one that's most reflective in these
relationships. Whereas I think that Abby
Jacobson and and Max Greenfield,those characters had more to
deal with, you know, so I think that they shown a little more,
but I agree, I think Abby Jacobson was definitely the
stand out. Well, I will say, I do think
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they did a good job of every single person getting an episode
or two episodes where it either focused on the person or a
relationship of some sort. And I really appreciated that
because there are 10 episodes and they're 30 minutes, right?
But I was even surprised that Nicole Byers Kendra got an
entire back story, which I loved, but I didn't expect that,
(07:53):
you know, it's the spouse of somebody.
So I was like, oh, OK. And I will say it's very queer,
yes, which I very much loved. And that was to my point is, is
that I think the character of Shira who Abby is voicing really
had a lot to deal with, not onlyin her queerness, but also just
in her mother's wrath on her. And that that I love that had
(08:13):
nothing to do with the. Queerness this show will I think
a lot of people will relate to something in the show.
Even if you're like an in law, you're married into a family,
have a narcissistic mother, havesiblings, you know, I there's
just so many layers to the show that I think people will
gravitate towards and they do such a good job of like giving
(08:36):
you like, OK, I know this like archetype.
I know this character, but then delving a little deeper into it
and then hitting you with those really poignant moments that
some of them I didn't expect. Like I'm sitting there, I'm
laughing and then I'm like, oh, OK.
And then the episode would end and I'm like, I damn you, damn
you. But it's so good.
And I think they found a really good balance with this.
(08:59):
I had saw somebody say that thisis like a odd adult bluey and
I'm like, I kind of can see that.
It's not as, I guess jovial as bluey, but it's like with that
dynamics with the family and everybody has their certain
roles. I'm like, I can kind of see
that. Yeah, def.
That's a really interesting take.
(09:19):
On that, yeah. I mean, I will say that if
you're fans of Bob's Burgers, This Is Us Parenthood.
Like I even thought Modern Family.
Modern Family, yeah. But this felt more rooted in
reality than Modern Family does.Yes.
Which is hilarious to me. Yeah, right.
Yeah. But I definitely think that
those are really good. I wouldn't say like, once your
kids done with Bluey, they should be watching a Long story
(09:41):
short. No, this is truly like it.
It feels like something that andwhich I love about it because it
it's something that you could sit with and think about.
Yeah. Is there any stand out moments
or episodes for you? You know, one of the episodes
that really stood out to me was #9 honoring Naomi Schwartz.
So this is a really interesting episode because they're honoring
(10:04):
their mother at, you know, in their Community Center, their
JCC, right? And so they know her really as
this person who is is very self-centered, who is always
focused on herself, who manages to make any big situation about
her and her feelings. And yet she's being honored as
this person that gives back constantly.
(10:24):
What I really loved about that episode is that in that, so the
people that see her as that are the kids because they're
day-to-day, they know their mother and this is how the
mother acts towards them, right?Obviously she loves the kids.
But like when you have a very self-centered narcissistic
parent, you can see these qualities in them and how it's
never a good thing. It's always a bad thing, right?
And it's always about the looks and it's always about everything
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else. But then when you're put in the
situation of everybody else seeing all these amazing,
beautiful things and like, you didn't know that your mother
spoke Danish, you didn't know that they did this, they got a
convicted white supremacist and to turn their lives around.
So it's like all of these things.
And then the kids are like, wait, what?
So I think it was really interesting to show that
(11:07):
perspective. Yeah, Ari says.
He says Avi, excuse me, He says she could forgive a former Nazi,
but she can't forgive me for notusing a coaster.
Yeah, You know what I mean? So it's like that's the thing
that everyone remembers. And it's so interesting to see
their mother through other people's eyes.
And for some reason with Avi, itreally effects him almost
(11:27):
negatively of like, why didn't Iget this version of my mother,
you know? And I just thought it was such
an eye opening episode because that is the second to last
episode of the season. So we've all been living with
Naomi, right? We see what she does.
And I think it comes to it as a surprise for all of us as the
audience as well as the kids. I want to just know what her
deal is with Jen. Jen is Avi's spouse who we meet
(11:51):
as the girlfriend at 1st and shejust hates her.
And it does have some of the biggest laughs for me though.
And some of the callbacks from the first episode to the last
episode are just absolutely brilliant.
But I do want to know what her her issue with it because any
time she's talking to all of them, I think there's only
really one episode where they'reall together, which is really
sweet. But she loves Kendra, she hates
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Jen, and I just think it is one of the funniest things in the
show. If I had to pick like my
favorite episode slash moment, Iwould say it's probably Yoshi
and Baby. I really, really enjoy that
episode. I thought it was incredibly
sweet. It was such a self-contained
episode. There's so many layers going on,
but it's a very sibling focused 1.
(12:34):
And also the baby Yoshi doesn't really have a lot.
Baby Yoshi not a Mario fame. Yeah.
But doesn't have a like a huge stake in a lot of the stuff
that's going on in the show because he's the baby, right?
He's he's doing his thing, he's doing whatever.
But this is really his moment toshine.
And I just liked it. I thought it was a cool,
self-contained story that like, what could have been and didn't
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happen, you know? And also this character of Baby
who we hear about in the first episode, who we don't get to
meet until later on and then seea a couple episodes later, how
it all connects. Don't say anything.
But that's one of the things I really like about the show.
There are even just lines that come out in like later episodes
that refer back to earlier things.
(13:20):
And so there's planning here, which I really love.
Well, and that's, I think that'swhat I was like trying to get at
when I said I like that they don't root the show in a time
period and you don't know where you're going to go in the
episodes because they do stuff like that.
They mention something like, youknow, baby here, but it's like
after all the baby stuff, but then you're going back to the
(13:41):
beginning at some point. But then at the end and at first
it gets a little like, you know,it's a first show, right?
It's the first season of a show.You get used to it.
I would say the first episode you kind of get it.
You're like, OK, I'm just going to I'm going to be with this
family. They talk 1,000,000 mph at the
kitchen table. And so I think them jumping
around actually serves the show really well.
(14:01):
And I think that as a as a viewer, in the beginning I was
trying to track it, but I but I realized that was to my
detriment, just let it happen. They don't want you to, right?
But I will say there's a lot of Fiddler on the Roof references,
so like, good luck trying to getall of those.
There there is one character we haven't spoken about yet and
this is the dad, Elliot. Well, OK.
(14:23):
And so my thing is, though, is like, so we have Naomi, who's so
strong, and then we have Elliottwho is so laid back.
It's like, what role does Elliott actually play?
Well, I do want to say this because I don't think you know
this and I just found this out shortly before us recording as
it's already been renewed for season 2.
(14:45):
So they've already renewed aheadof season 1 even premiering.
So I'm curious if it's going to be the same family.
I hope it is and maybe we will get that because it does seem
like they purposely didn't show some things in hopes that maybe
season 2. So you know, there there's
specific things that happened with some relationships ending
that we didn't get to really seewhy.
So I'm hoping we get that 'causethere's definitely apparently
(15:08):
characters that are missing backstories.
Definitely, yeah. And I think that Elliot, who's
voiced by Paul Reiser, who is just incredibly talented and
wonderful, we don't know much about him because he takes that
backseat role. But again, we get those glimpses
to their past, how he and Naomi met, and they seemed like much
Wilder people when they were younger than they are now.
(15:30):
That's how it always is though, right?
Like I've seen your parents whenthey kind of first met and they
look like. Rock stars.
Rock stars. My parents did, too.
My mom had this giant fountain hair.
And, you know, I think it's likeof the time, yeah.
And I and I think, you know, ultimately it's just how life
shapes you, right? It is a very, I think again,
(15:50):
it's, it's only 10 episodes. They're 25 minutes long,
including credits. So it's even less than that.
And that's not to say it's bad. I think it's actually the
perfect runtime for the show. I think it just, it had
something it wanted to say. It's so delightfully and
unapologetically Jewish. That was refreshing to see.
(16:11):
And I also do like that they, they make comments that they
know people that who didn't growup Jewish are going to be
watching this. So they make sure that you're
being taught along the way, but also acting like they're not
lecturing you right? I, I mean, I really appreciated
it honestly, and just seeing howit is woven throughout their
daily lives and how much it means to them.
(16:31):
I also want to just give a shoutout to the voice of Hannah
Schooper, Michaela Dietz, because as a Steven Universe
fan, she was Amethyst. Very good final thoughts.
I feel like, again, if you're a fan of Bobby Burgers, those kind
of like lighthearted, very funny, emotional shows, I think
(16:54):
you'll like this show. I think you should give it a
shot. I agree.
And you know, I, I almost wish Ihad because we, we kind of
binged it, you know, to make sure we had to, we had to.
I actually wish I got to take more time with it because I
think that there are things in there that I could really sit
with and think about and feel because it really does have such
(17:15):
great depth to it. It feels very personal to the
creator. And I think even though it's
about this one specific family, like we've kind of been saying,
I think anyone can see themselves in this, right?
Anyone who has a family where things get complicated and don't
necessarily turn out how we thought, for good or for bad,
(17:36):
you'll see yourself in the Schoopers.
Yeah, yeah, I'm, I'm excited forseason 2.
I again, I need to see if it's about the same family or not.
I mean, it could be an anthology, could not.
I'd be happy either way because I think this, this they have a
good team on their hands. But I do love these actors and I
love the characters already. So I don't know, I'm kind of
sold. But if you're going to watch it,
if you watched it, by the time you listen to it, let us know
(17:58):
what? You thought, yes, I'm officially
invested. I'm so excited that there's
season 2. Love to hear what you all think
as well. See you next time when we talk
about the roses. Another complicated family.
That one's a complicated for a whole lot of other reasons, dear
Lord. OK, goodbye.
Bye.
Hey friends, I'm Derek. That's Noah, and you're
listening to A Bite of On this episode, we are taking a bite of
the new Netflix animated series,Long story short.
A short episode on a Long story short.
(00:20):
How about that? We actually have our next two
episodes. Slash reviews are very family
focused. We didn't plan this completely
different studios, but a end of summer means dysfunctional
families. Yeah, it almost seems like there
was something in the universe saying that everybody was going
through something with their families at the same time.
(00:40):
So it's just the trend in pop culture right now.
I don't know if I like it, but Ido like these two things.
So, you know, we have the roses coming out next week.
And then obviously this week is the episode that you clicked on.
But before we get into everything, make sure you're
following us. Make sure you're subscribed to
us. Make sure you're leaving
reviews, Patreon. We have a bite of the week.
Every week. We talk about some of our
(01:01):
favorite pop culture news, movienews, TV news, whatever.
News. Yeah, it's been fun.
Yeah, been a fun time. It's like Access Hollywood, but
us. But gay?
And on a weekly basis. All right, so spoilers ahead, we
will be talking. We're not going to go into super
huge detail, but we will be talking about the first season
(01:22):
of Long story short and also thinking Netflix for give me
screeners for the whole first season.
Very lucky so let us officially take a bite of Long story short
created by Rafael Bo Walksburg meet the Schwartz Cooper
Schwooper family as they experience the trials,
tribulations and wolves. Growing up as a Jewish American
(01:43):
family through the late 90s and 2000s.
So what did you think of the Schwarz, Cooper, Schwooper
family? One, I love the name Schwooper.
Oh so good. I, I didn't finish Bojack
Horseman. What I do know about Bojack,
Bojack Horseman and the creator and everything is that they take
(02:05):
a thing and say something with it.
This show, I was very curious because there's no animals,
right? It's it's very based on a Jewish
family and what that means. I really, really enjoyed my time
with the Schwoopers. I think they played with
structure really fun in this show.
A fun way to play with structurein the show where it wasn't kind
(02:26):
of hard based in a time period. It would go all the way to the
50s to the 2000 twenties. This show does a good job of
showing a Jewish American familyand everything.
The uncles, the the married in family, what a bat mitzvah is
like, what Awake is like, all ofthis stuff but also makes it
very delightful and charming andI don't really laugh out loud
(02:51):
quickly of comedies. This one first episode was
laughing out loud. I really enjoyed my time with
it. I think it like 1030 minute
episodes was perfect. It didn't overstay its welcome,
but I did want more. Yeah, I think one of the
interesting things is going through these years with this
family, right? And within one episode, we can
(03:11):
start in 99, go to 2003, go backto 96, you know, So it's The
thing is, I think with generational trauma, let's say
you need to see the generations,right?
And you need to see these bread crumbs in these folks lives that
have led them to this point. And I think throughout the
series that can happen within one episode, but it also happens
(03:32):
throughout the entire season. And I think that's what's so
brilliant about this. You know, like you said, there
are no animals in this. I think it's definitely much
more rooted in reality compared to Bojack Horseman.
And I love that. I think that this family, I
mean, just for, for time's sake,we'll just call them the
Schwoopers rather than all threeof the names.
(03:53):
They they feel very real a lot more you know, I love this idea
of the American family that isn't so perfect, right?
We think of The Simpsons, we think of the Belchers and Bob's
Burgers and I think the Schroopers are part of that as
well. I but I think also on top of
that, they're dealing with more real world things, right?
(04:14):
We see COVID a lot in this wearing masks.
We and I think that that being rooted in reality, I think as an
audience we're able to really relate to it.
Yeah, I when I when it got to the COVID years and I saw masks
and stuff like that, it's a verylike, I don't want to
acknowledge it, you know, obviously we have to, but it's,
it's one of those things where Ifeel like right after lockdown
(04:36):
lifted, we got a lot of media with like COVID being in it and
it's like, can we just like 2 seconds?
I don't want to see it. But this I feel like oddly
enough, time ish has passed where it was an interesting take
on some of the stuff that happened with COVID, but it made
sense for the story. I I really liked the structure
of the show and I think the animation was wasn't trying to
(04:57):
do anything new, but was fresh at the same time.
So I think that they got a good mix of like getting a great
cast, doing a great story and then having the animation
pleasing to everybody. Yeah, absolutely.
I think one of the things to be said about this is that there is
joviality in the regularness of life, and there can be really
(05:18):
bizarre things in our everyday lives.
You know, there's one episode inparticular called Wolves.
And as you're going into it, you're thinking, you know, the
metaphoric wolves of life. But it turns out, spoiler alert,
during COVID, when no one was inthe school, a pack of wolves
took over the kids schools and no one knew had to do with it.
(05:38):
So the kids were going to schoolwith wolves, which is kind of
hilarious, but just was this really bizarre new normal that
everybody was just kind of like,that's a thing.
They go to school with wolves. So there are moments of joy,
there are moments of absurdity, but they still feel very rooted
in our reality as humans, which I really loved.
You know, the animation, I agree, wasn't trying to break
(06:01):
any mold here, but I think was fun and enjoyable.
And because it was animation, they got to do some sillier
things then maybe in in live action stuff.
But really part of the thing that brought these characters to
life were the amazing cast. Yeah, these voice actors.
I mean, was there anyone that stood out to you as far as voice
acting is concerned? Abby Jacobson 100%.
(06:24):
I mean, it was. I immediately clocked who it was
'cause I went into this completely blind.
I, I, you know, we got this greener.
I was like, oh, what is this? I was like, oh, creator Bajaj
Horseman. I was like, OK, interesting.
And I just, we started watching it and I was like, oh, oh,
that's that person. Oh, that's that person.
I really enjoyed Abby Jacobson. I think she probably was the
standout to me. Yoshi Max Greenfield also pretty
(06:49):
great. I think those two are maybe the
standouts for me as far as just the entirety of the entire
series. Yeah, I think of the three
siblings, you know, Avi is the older brother.
Avi is the one that I think mostacquiesces to his mother.
That was kind of a bit of the golden child.
So he kind of is more laid back.So I think Ben Feldman didn't
(07:10):
necessarily have this like standout role, but I think that
he is the one that's most reflective in these
relationships. Whereas I think that Abby
Jacobson and and Max Greenfield,those characters had more to
deal with, you know, so I think that they shown a little more,
but I agree, I think Abby Jacobson was definitely the
stand out. Well, I will say, I do think
(07:32):
they did a good job of every single person getting an episode
or two episodes where it either focused on the person or a
relationship of some sort. And I really appreciated that
because there are 10 episodes and they're 30 minutes, right?
But I was even surprised that Nicole Byers Kendra got an
entire back story, which I loved, but I didn't expect that,
(07:53):
you know, it's the spouse of somebody.
So I was like, oh, OK. And I will say it's very queer,
yes, which I very much loved. And that was to my point is, is
that I think the character of Shira who Abby is voicing really
had a lot to deal with, not onlyin her queerness, but also just
in her mother's wrath on her. And that that I love that had
(08:13):
nothing to do with the. Queerness this show will I think
a lot of people will relate to something in the show.
Even if you're like an in law, you're married into a family,
have a narcissistic mother, havesiblings, you know, I there's
just so many layers to the show that I think people will
gravitate towards and they do such a good job of like giving
(08:36):
you like, OK, I know this like archetype.
I know this character, but then delving a little deeper into it
and then hitting you with those really poignant moments that
some of them I didn't expect. Like I'm sitting there, I'm
laughing and then I'm like, oh, OK.
And then the episode would end and I'm like, I damn you, damn
you. But it's so good.
And I think they found a really good balance with this.
(08:59):
I had saw somebody say that thisis like a odd adult bluey and
I'm like, I kind of can see that.
It's not as, I guess jovial as bluey, but it's like with that
dynamics with the family and everybody has their certain
roles. I'm like, I can kind of see
that. Yeah, def.
That's a really interesting take.
(09:19):
On that, yeah. I mean, I will say that if
you're fans of Bob's Burgers, This Is Us Parenthood.
Like I even thought Modern Family.
Modern Family, yeah. But this felt more rooted in
reality than Modern Family does.Yes.
Which is hilarious to me. Yeah, right.
Yeah. But I definitely think that
those are really good. I wouldn't say like, once your
kids done with Bluey, they should be watching a Long story
(09:41):
short. No, this is truly like it.
It feels like something that andwhich I love about it because it
it's something that you could sit with and think about.
Yeah. Is there any stand out moments
or episodes for you? You know, one of the episodes
that really stood out to me was #9 honoring Naomi Schwartz.
So this is a really interesting episode because they're honoring
(10:04):
their mother at, you know, in their Community Center, their
JCC, right? And so they know her really as
this person who is is very self-centered, who is always
focused on herself, who manages to make any big situation about
her and her feelings. And yet she's being honored as
this person that gives back constantly.
(10:24):
What I really loved about that episode is that in that, so the
people that see her as that are the kids because they're
day-to-day, they know their mother and this is how the
mother acts towards them, right?Obviously she loves the kids.
But like when you have a very self-centered narcissistic
parent, you can see these qualities in them and how it's
never a good thing. It's always a bad thing, right?
And it's always about the looks and it's always about everything
(10:45):
else. But then when you're put in the
situation of everybody else seeing all these amazing,
beautiful things and like, you didn't know that your mother
spoke Danish, you didn't know that they did this, they got a
convicted white supremacist and to turn their lives around.
So it's like all of these things.
And then the kids are like, wait, what?
So I think it was really interesting to show that
(11:07):
perspective. Yeah, Ari says.
He says Avi, excuse me, He says she could forgive a former Nazi,
but she can't forgive me for notusing a coaster.
Yeah, You know what I mean? So it's like that's the thing
that everyone remembers. And it's so interesting to see
their mother through other people's eyes.
And for some reason with Avi, itreally effects him almost
(11:27):
negatively of like, why didn't Iget this version of my mother,
you know? And I just thought it was such
an eye opening episode because that is the second to last
episode of the season. So we've all been living with
Naomi, right? We see what she does.
And I think it comes to it as a surprise for all of us as the
audience as well as the kids. I want to just know what her
deal is with Jen. Jen is Avi's spouse who we meet
(11:51):
as the girlfriend at 1st and shejust hates her.
And it does have some of the biggest laughs for me though.
And some of the callbacks from the first episode to the last
episode are just absolutely brilliant.
But I do want to know what her her issue with it because any
time she's talking to all of them, I think there's only
really one episode where they'reall together, which is really
sweet. But she loves Kendra, she hates
(12:13):
Jen, and I just think it is one of the funniest things in the
show. If I had to pick like my
favorite episode slash moment, Iwould say it's probably Yoshi
and Baby. I really, really enjoy that
episode. I thought it was incredibly
sweet. It was such a self-contained
episode. There's so many layers going on,
but it's a very sibling focused 1.
(12:34):
And also the baby Yoshi doesn't really have a lot.
Baby Yoshi not a Mario fame. Yeah.
But doesn't have a like a huge stake in a lot of the stuff
that's going on in the show because he's the baby, right?
He's he's doing his thing, he's doing whatever.
But this is really his moment toshine.
And I just liked it. I thought it was a cool,
self-contained story that like, what could have been and didn't
(12:58):
happen, you know? And also this character of Baby
who we hear about in the first episode, who we don't get to
meet until later on and then seea a couple episodes later, how
it all connects. Don't say anything.
But that's one of the things I really like about the show.
There are even just lines that come out in like later episodes
that refer back to earlier things.
(13:20):
And so there's planning here, which I really love.
Well, and that's, I think that'swhat I was like trying to get at
when I said I like that they don't root the show in a time
period and you don't know where you're going to go in the
episodes because they do stuff like that.
They mention something like, youknow, baby here, but it's like
after all the baby stuff, but then you're going back to the
(13:41):
beginning at some point. But then at the end and at first
it gets a little like, you know,it's a first show, right?
It's the first season of a show.You get used to it.
I would say the first episode you kind of get it.
You're like, OK, I'm just going to I'm going to be with this
family. They talk 1,000,000 mph at the
kitchen table. And so I think them jumping
around actually serves the show really well.
(14:01):
And I think that as a as a viewer, in the beginning I was
trying to track it, but I but I realized that was to my
detriment, just let it happen. They don't want you to, right?
But I will say there's a lot of Fiddler on the Roof references,
so like, good luck trying to getall of those.
There there is one character we haven't spoken about yet and
this is the dad, Elliot. Well, OK.
(14:23):
And so my thing is, though, is like, so we have Naomi, who's so
strong, and then we have Elliottwho is so laid back.
It's like, what role does Elliott actually play?
Well, I do want to say this because I don't think you know
this and I just found this out shortly before us recording as
it's already been renewed for season 2.
(14:45):
So they've already renewed aheadof season 1 even premiering.
So I'm curious if it's going to be the same family.
I hope it is and maybe we will get that because it does seem
like they purposely didn't show some things in hopes that maybe
season 2. So you know, there there's
specific things that happened with some relationships ending
that we didn't get to really seewhy.
So I'm hoping we get that 'causethere's definitely apparently
(15:08):
characters that are missing backstories.
Definitely, yeah. And I think that Elliot, who's
voiced by Paul Reiser, who is just incredibly talented and
wonderful, we don't know much about him because he takes that
backseat role. But again, we get those glimpses
to their past, how he and Naomi met, and they seemed like much
Wilder people when they were younger than they are now.
(15:30):
That's how it always is though, right?
Like I've seen your parents whenthey kind of first met and they
look like. Rock stars.
Rock stars. My parents did, too.
My mom had this giant fountain hair.
And, you know, I think it's likeof the time, yeah.
And I and I think, you know, ultimately it's just how life
shapes you, right? It is a very, I think again,
(15:50):
it's, it's only 10 episodes. They're 25 minutes long,
including credits. So it's even less than that.
And that's not to say it's bad. I think it's actually the
perfect runtime for the show. I think it just, it had
something it wanted to say. It's so delightfully and
unapologetically Jewish. That was refreshing to see.
(16:11):
And I also do like that they, they make comments that they
know people that who didn't growup Jewish are going to be
watching this. So they make sure that you're
being taught along the way, but also acting like they're not
lecturing you right? I, I mean, I really appreciated
it honestly, and just seeing howit is woven throughout their
daily lives and how much it means to them.
(16:31):
I also want to just give a shoutout to the voice of Hannah
Schooper, Michaela Dietz, because as a Steven Universe
fan, she was Amethyst. Very good final thoughts.
I feel like, again, if you're a fan of Bobby Burgers, those kind
of like lighthearted, very funny, emotional shows, I think
(16:54):
you'll like this show. I think you should give it a
shot. I agree.
And you know, I, I almost wish Ihad because we, we kind of
binged it, you know, to make sure we had to, we had to.
I actually wish I got to take more time with it because I
think that there are things in there that I could really sit
with and think about and feel because it really does have such
(17:15):
great depth to it. It feels very personal to the
creator. And I think even though it's
about this one specific family, like we've kind of been saying,
I think anyone can see themselves in this, right?
Anyone who has a family where things get complicated and don't
necessarily turn out how we thought, for good or for bad,
(17:36):
you'll see yourself in the Schoopers.
Yeah, yeah, I'm, I'm excited forseason 2.
I again, I need to see if it's about the same family or not.
I mean, it could be an anthology, could not.
I'd be happy either way because I think this, this they have a
good team on their hands. But I do love these actors and I
love the characters already. So I don't know, I'm kind of
sold. But if you're going to watch it,
if you watched it, by the time you listen to it, let us know
(17:58):
what? You thought, yes, I'm officially
invested. I'm so excited that there's
season 2. Love to hear what you all think
as well. See you next time when we talk
about the roses. Another complicated family.
That one's a complicated for a whole lot of other reasons, dear
Lord. OK, goodbye.
Bye.
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