August 12, 2025 • 27 mins
Do we really need to dress our age? That's the question sparking a lively mother-daughter debate in this episode where we explore society's unwritten fashion rules and whether they deserve to be followed—or gleefully broken.
Jane, representing the Boomer perspective, admits she still wears shorter skirts and hip-hugger bell bottoms in her 60s, while Bobbi questions whether certain styles should be retired after specific age milestones.
We tackle the uncomfortable truth that judgments about "appropriate" clothing often mask body shaming and ageism. Why can a 60-year-old slender woman wear a short skirt with less judgment than her heavier counterpart? And why do we roll our eyes at the 50-year-old man in a backwards baseball cap and skinny jeans? These double standards expose our complicated relationship with aging and self-expression.
The episode concludes with admiration for people who make the effort to dress beautifully every day and a liberating message: wear what makes you feel good. As Bobbi puts it, "If that's what makes you feel beautiful and not want to take yourself out of this world every day, by God, go for it."
Share your fashion opinions with us! Drop us an email at boomerandgenexer@gmail.com with your thoughts or suggest topics for future episodes. And don't forget to follow, like and subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
No way Ow.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Welcome everyone to today's show a boomer and a Gen
Xer walking to a bar, coming toyou from the rabbit hole studio,
where you, as our listener,will experience some wit and
wisdom, some smart assery and amother and daughter questioning.
Are we even related?
My name is Bobbi Joy and myco-host is my lovely mother,
jane, and for the next littlewhile we're here to entertain,
(00:35):
and I think today might beinteresting Is it going to be
interesting?
I think so, because you told mewhat we're going to talk about
and I kind of have a feelingthat we'll be kind of on the
opposite sides of the fence onthis one, will we?
I think so, huh.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Yeah, okay.
So, first and foremost, how'syour chicken this week?
He's good.
What's his?
Speaker 2 (00:58):
name.
Oh well, I think that I'm goingto.
I'm Timmy.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
So Lyle, timothy, and now Timmy, timmy, timmy, Okay,
okay.
So you've got your therapychicken down there.
Hey, whatever happened to ourbook about Brenda and her beaver
?
Speaker 2 (01:16):
It gained a lot of popularity.
It hit the New York Timesbestseller list, did it really?
I don't know if it did, but shedoes actually have an entire
series of brenda's beaver andwhat he does.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
so there's another book that we talked about, which
was who will eat my clown?
Speaker 2 (01:33):
that book should be banned.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
We read in like five countries both of those books,
yeah, and we encouraged peopleto go get these books.
They are kind of characterbooks, uh, like cartoon type.
They look like kids books butthey are not no, they are not.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
It's kind of like how sausage party looked like a
kid's movie, but it was not.
It was not sausage party.
Oh my god people taking theirkids to it, thinking it's a
kid's movie.
I'm like so what gave it away?
The mature rating or the factthat the title is sausage party,
and they're like we thought itwas a kids movie.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
It's like wow so there was um a podcast that we
did about laws that we talkedabout here recently, and there
was something that you hadbrought up afterwards that we
kind of want to talk about.
I mean, I just I thought it wasinteresting when you brought it
up, so bring it up again oh,the one that I forgot.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
That I said should be legal in all the states.
Yeah, yeah.
So I believe that if twoconsenting adults would like to
duel with no weapons, it shouldbe legal there should be no
assault charges.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
No, baby, wow, wow when you lose calling the cops
so you should be able to standout in the front yard and have a
fist fight.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Absolutely no weapons , no weapons just a fist fight
and whoever is left standing,they're the winner yeah, I mean
if you, if, if both peopleconsent and they're both adults,
why not?
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Yeah, I don't disagree with that because you
know, as a hillbilly redneck,that's kind of how we were
raised, right?
Speaker 2 (03:13):
I mean, we got raised , getting punched in the mouth,
you know.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Oh my gosh.
So whoever was left standingwas the winner.
Yeah, and nobody went homecrying to their mom or dad or
anything like well, no, becausea lot of times, especially in my
generation, if you go home andsay you lost the fight at school
, you got your ass whooped againwhen you got home that's not
true, but I my generation yes,but I will say, as one of your
(03:38):
parents I did say, that you know, if somebody comes after you
and they try to take you down,you give them everything you've
got yeah, I was always taughtdon't start it, but you finish
it, you finish absolutely, you,betcha, and I remember your
sister um and I'm off I'm offtopic because this isn't even
our topic today it's not yoursister got into a fight with
(04:00):
somebody at the roller skatingrink and I think oh yeah, I was
14 years old.
Yeah, I was there and she, thisgirl was really bullying her
badly.
And um, I pulled up and I heardsomebody because my window was
down.
Oh my gosh, her mom's here, yep, and uh, I remember this girl.
(04:20):
Uh, when I got up there she'dbeat the.
She beat the crap out of myother daughter.
Yeah, and I go.
What happened?
And she goes?
Well, my daughter, she said,well, you know, she went to take
her coat off and I go.
That was a time to drop it.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
I mean her arms are back.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
She's taking her coat off to beat the crap out of you
, and you're standing there.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
And the funny thing was, before you pulled up,
little 9 and 10-year-old me hadtaken my skate off and was
trying to hit the girl with myroller skate because my sister
was getting her ass whooped.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
She was, she was, and I mean it was interesting.
It was like holy crap.
So you, let her take her coatoff and she's got her arms
around her.
Let her take her coat off andshe's got her arms right.
I'd have dropped her to theground, right there.
I mean sorry folks, but suckerpunch, yeah, I would have let
her have it and you know it wasall a done deal.
By the time I walked up to thatlittle girl and, uh, she wasn't
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little, she was 14 years oldand I don't give a shit that she
was underage because she was.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
She was a bully yeah but anyway, that was back in the
day, I mean back in the day,back in the day before laws were
laws.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
So our topic today I wanted to talk to you about and
maybe we will disagree isfashion.
And what age are you, or whenis it acceptable and when is it
not acceptable for men and womento wear certain clothing?
So the reason I bring this upis because I am the boomer and I
(05:49):
am in my 60s and I still wear alot of clothes that probably,
uh, might be too young for me.
What do you think?
Speaker 2 (05:57):
I think that you're delusional in that now maybe
some of the cuts and stuff mightbe a little risque for your age
, but the clothes that you wear,I can guarantee you nobody
under 50 knows knows thoseclothes.
I mean the style and stuff.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
It's definitely old I wore hip hugger bell bottoms
bless your heart is that a badthing?
I wear t-shirts marshalls.
I don't shop at Marshalls.
I don't shop at Marshalls.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
I know you don't because that's too young for you
.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
So at what point do you know?
Because I see some people andI'll talk about women
specifically, because that'skind of what I look at and more
women look at other women thanthey do men.
Did you know that?
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Yeah, it's judgmental .
Speaker 3 (06:42):
It's very judgmental, and it's.
You know, do they look betterthan me?
Do they look younger than me?
Are they wearing clothes that Iwant to have?
And so Dr Domain is over heredoing some sign language and
we're not liking it.
Dr Domain, you might want tojust, I didn't say anything.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
I know you didn't say anything.
There's a reason that womenlook at other women.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Yeah, and it's because we look to see how
they're hearing, we look tocompare, we do, we look to
compare ourselves to them, butthen again.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
I mean like I'm 100% straight.
I don't know what they callthat anymore.
I think they call it somethingthere's a name for it Out of
style I guess, but before Idon't give a shit, I guess, um.
But if there is a woman wholooks just fabulous, you know
I'm gonna look.
I'm not gonna be like, oh baby,but I'm gonna appreciate the
(07:33):
female body and go, man, I wishI could look like that type of
thing.
But you know, something that Ilearned a long time ago,
especially when dealing with myown body issues and things like
that, was there are two train ofthoughts that you have.
The first, the very first thingthat you think of when you see
someone, is what you are taught,how you are conditioned.
(07:54):
The second thought that comesto your mind is who you are.
So a lot of people will seethese women and go oh, my god,
she's dressed like a slut.
And then the next thought isyou go, girl, good for you, I'm
proud of you for wearing that.
Because the first thought ishow you're conditioned, what
you're raised to believe,whether it be with family,
(08:14):
friends, the people you surroundyourself with.
The second thought is who youactually are okay, I'm not sure
I agree with that.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Um well, you're not a psychologist.
So no, but I've got what awaste oh my gosh, what a waste
that college degree was wastedon my mom I mean, I think it's a
, it's a family thing.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
We all kind of waste our college degrees.
But yeah, let's go for it.
Okay, so clothing.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
But so I, just I, I, I want to say that, um, I don't
agree with that, because I'm notsure that I was ever
conditioned as a child.
We were so poor, well, you guyswore burlap sacks.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
I mean literally, we were just happy to have clothes
you know from the church thatwould hand them down to us.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Uh, honest to god, that is the truth, but um.
So, as an older woman, I dowear, you know, my skirts a
little shorter.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
I don't wear long skirts but you're also a smaller
woman, you're not?
You're not.
You don't have a large frame,you're not carrying a bunch of
extra body weight type of thing.
You, you're a.
You're a very slender woman,and so it would be more fitting,
socially acceptable.
Let me rephrase that it wouldbe more socially acceptable for
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someone your age to wear maybe aslightly shorter skirt than,
let's say, someone who washeavier in your age.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
People would look down on it if it was a shorter
skirt okay, all right, so I getthat, but is that then fat
shaming type thing?
Speaker 2 (09:50):
body shame it is, it's a body shaming thing, but I
also think that, looking atsomeone and seeing what they're
wearing and going, you shouldn'tbe wearing that.
Look, unless it's a thongbikini at a public pool where a
bunch of children are.
I'm not, you know.
Wear what you want.
Wear what makes you happy.
Yeah, you know, but it is.
It's a body shaming thing, it'san age shaming thing, it's a
(10:13):
really it all comes down to ajealousy thing well, you made
the comment that you know, ifyou saw a really attractive
woman, that you would go.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Yeah, she looks great .
I would too, absolutely,absolutely not ashamed to look
at another woman, because we docompare ourselves we do, women,
I do I would like my hair tolook like that we do or I would
like to have that body shape.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
And I've worked, I've worked really hard to actually
change my mindset from havinglike a jealous mindset over what
other women look like to going,wow, she, she looks great,
right, good for her.
Right, she must have put in alot of work.
You know you can tell,especially people who have
recently lost a lot of weight.
You know they do have that skinissue and things.
I look at him and go, wow, thatmust have been really hard for
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them.
Yeah, like they must be reallyproud to be able to wear a tank
top even though they have thisskin, to have lost all that
weight and feel comfortable inorder to walk out in it.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
And I have a habit not a habit, I will say I feel
very comfortable walking up to aperfect stranger and saying,
wow, that dress looks great onyou.
Yeah, or that color isbeautiful on you, or that color
is beautiful on you.
As a matter of fact, I went tothe doctor yesterday and a gal
was walking out and she had thecutest shoes on an older lady,
(11:30):
the cutest shoes.
And I got past her and I turnedaround and I said, hey, I just
have to tell you those are thecutest shoes.
And she stopped, smiled, toldme about her shoes.
She had had them for whateverand she got them wherever.
And I said, well, they surelook cute on you.
It probably made her day.
Yeah, you know, but I am notafraid to tell somebody, man,
(11:53):
they're beautiful.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Right, and we'll be watching Dr Domaine and I will
be watching a show and I'll gowow, that woman has a beautiful
face, yeah, or she has beautifulhair, but I mean, but a lot of
people think, okay, well, youcan have that beauty, but you
need to dress age appropriately.
And it's not just for women,it's guys too.
(12:15):
Right, I mean you see, you know50-year-old guys out here in DCs
and hurly shirts with thebackwards baseball cap and the
chains and I know a lot ofpeople have said, oh my god,
grow up, why don't you dress foryour age?
It's like what do you want themto wear?
Speaker 3 (12:29):
like peaky blinders, 1920s, you know outfits so what
do you think about guys who wearbuttoned down shirts and have
the first three buttonsunbuttoned?
Um drug dealer they're part ofthe drug cartel if I need
cocaine.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
That's where I'm going.
That's all I'm saying.
You look for the three buttons,undone or the top button, done
either way, you're guaranteed toscore.
I look at them and I think 70sporn star, yes well, they got to
have the stash and the hair andthe gold chain.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Yeah, yeah, definitely yeah definitely, and
so, yeah, I do think about thattoo, and I probably shouldn't,
but it does bring back memories,I mean as long as it didn't
come out of your mouth.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Like I said, you know , the worst superhero uh power
to have is to read people'sthoughts, because the things I
think on on an hourly basis thatgoes through my head could
probably get me in guantanamobay at this point now I have.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
You're gonna go to that alligator, alcatraz?
Speaker 2 (13:30):
I am yes yes, you know, they're selling t-shirts.
I might want one.
We may need one.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
Um, so I I will be.
I will say I'm very guiltyabout looking at someone and if
I know them pretty well, I might, and I've done this to you or
to your sister no I have lookedat people and waved my hand and
went what's going on here?
What is the deal?
Speaker 2 (13:52):
oh yeah, all the time .
What's this?
What is, what is?
What are you doing here?
What are we doing?
What are we?
Speaker 3 (13:58):
wearing because that does not go together.
And why are you wearing thatlike that?
Speaker 2 (14:02):
like just the other, just the other podcast that we,
we recorded.
You, you mentioned about thefact that I was wearing shorts.
Yes, I don't wear shorts.
Yeah, I really don't.
Unless I'm at the beach orsomething like that, I don't
wear shorts.
And I was just like, okay, wellf you, I just wanted to wear
shorts, leave me alone.
But it was laundry day yes, andyou explained that.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
But at what point do you stop wearing daisy?
Duke your short up your butt,hey I had stretch shorts
underneath.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
No, I know you did but, I'm talking temperature
drops below 100 there you go.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Of course, that coming, I thought I was gonna
say when your skin drops belowyour knees, where your butt is
yeah, it's hot it's been hot outlately, so Dr Domain is
weighing in on this.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
Yeah, and so because he will be the first one to say
why don't you wear somethinglike that?
Or, you know, thong underwear,I'm old.
First of all, yeah.
And it looks like you know I'mtrying to put you know some type
of string around the raisin.
It's not pretty.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Well, that's why I said, especially like in public
pools and stuff, the women whowear the thong bikinis and
things like that, put your buttaway, ma'am.
Yeah, like I understand we'reswimming and things, but there's
children at that eye level thathave to look at that.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
And our butts hang a lot lower than they used to.
Yes, and even if it doesn't,yeah, mine used to be up and
perky, Not anymore.
Okay.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
It's hanging down to the back of my legs.
Even if you're 20 years old andin your prime and you just got
the perfect butt, I don't wantto see it out at the pool.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
So what about?
So there are limits.
There are limits, that's my onelimit is the whole thong
underwear or a thong bikini.
That's pretty subjective,though, right.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
In a public place with children.
I just, I don't.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Is that age appropriate?
I mean if it was a young personwould it make any difference.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
If it was a guy, I would still have the same
feeling.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
So what about the folks that board the plane that
look like they just left thecarnival?
You know, they got theirpajamas on and clown pants and
guilty, fuzzy slippers.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Guilty because if I'm on a plane for six hours, I
want to be comfortable.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
What if they're wearing a thong?
If they're only wearing a thong?
Speaker 2 (16:16):
if they're only wearing a thong.
How did they get past tsa?
Speaker 1 (16:19):
well, it's easy.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
I mean, there was nothing to search come on, there
was nothing to search there.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
No, you're not putting your bare butt cheeks on
places where other people sit.
You shouldn't be wearing it toa pool.
If you want to go to the lake,like a private lake access, and
wear your thong bikini, flossyour butt all you want, I don't
care, but please keep it out ofthe public swimming pools.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
What about somebody who, because you see this on tv
a lot now, because there's somany reality?
Speaker 2 (16:50):
shows I don't even watch and all.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
You can't flip a channel without seeing some
reality show where somebody iseither trying to marry somebody
or trying to divorce somebody,or sounds like your algorithm
knows you, I guess because mineare all crime documentaries.
Well, I got those two, yeah,but anyways.
But anyway, the low cleavagestuff, you know, like the really
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low cut stuff, and I thinkthere's an age for that.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
I don't know.
I think there's an age for that.
It mirrors.
It mirrors our morality or lackthereof what I think, so think
so.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
Oh yeah, no, absolutely not.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
A lot of these shows are you know?
They were really really tightfitting.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Well, that's for ratings, yeah, but it.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Just it kind of matches the mentality level of
it.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
But you're telling me that Zeke down the road who
weighs 450 pounds and has boobsbigger than me, can go without a
shirt and it's fine.
150 pounds and has boobs biggerthan me can go without a shirt,
and it's fine.
But if I wear a low-cutcleavage shirt because my boobs
sag a little when I'm 60, thenthat's an issue nope, zeke needs
to cover up he needs sometassels he needs to get on a
reality show he needs to get.
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Yeah, but no I don't.
I don't think that low-cutthings I mean if your boobs hang
to your knees and you want alow-cut shirt.
God bless your heart, man, gofor it.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
I guess I think it's at that point.
I think it's tacky.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
I think it's wear what you want to wear because in
the end, no, that's not whatyou said, except for the thongs.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
On there are congressions, so you can't wear
whatever you want to wear.
You know what?
Speaker 2 (18:22):
just put the asterisk there and it's stuck there,
Okay so what about men?
Speaker 3 (18:27):
What about men?
Because?
I think at some point men needto stop wearing skinny jeans,
wearing their hats backwards andnot wearing socks with their
little loafers First of all,anybody who doesn't wear socks
with shoes should be taken outand shot.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
I'm sorry, that is the grossest thing.
I don't care if you're wearingboat shoes, dock shoes.
Hey, dudes, I don't care whatthey are, your feet smell bro,
okay, I'm sorry unless it'sslides or flip-flops.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
Put some damn socks on.
I struggle with guys that areolder wearing skinny jeans.
Really, and the short skinnyjeans, you know what what I mean
?
They're shorter.
What do you mean Like?
High waters, yeah, not likecapri pants.
Now she tells me.
She's calling you out bud,because I've seen a lot of this
Like short, skinny jeans, andthen they've got little loafers
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on with no socks and their shirtis buttoned down And's like you
know, three buttons down, areyou?
Speaker 2 (19:26):
at the blazing saddle gay bar again, because I'm
telling you you just named likeeight people in there right now
no but no I, I get what you'resaying, but no, I don't have a
problem with that.
I don't have a problem withthat if you want to wear your
hat backwards and you know Ithink if you're over 25, you
don't need to be wearing yourhat backwards I think you need
to grow up.
That's I disagree.
(19:47):
I disagree.
Wear it right if you're over 25for crying out loud your ship
has sailed your ship has.
If you give me a tattooed dadbod guy with the beard and he
turns his hat around backwards,it's over I'm getting married,
dad bod okay no, yeah, and Iwant him to wear a tight shirt
(20:08):
too, oh my gosh, to show thosethose man boobs.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
Show them moves, baby .
I also think that if you'regonna wear a muscle shirt or a
sleeveless shirt, that youshould have muscles, okay, not
just fat arms.
Welcome to the gun show yeah,welcome to the gun show.
That's nothing but fat there,big boy okay you don't like the
bat wings where they flap andthen you could fly or somebody
comes up and you know wants tothreaten you and it's like what
(20:36):
are you?
what are you gonna do?
Chase me because you're like350, 400 pounds.
I'm sorry, I'm not fat.
Shaming, I could care less thatyou're fat.
Okay, I really and truly do.
But don't act like you're allthat.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
Don't act like you're hey, go for it, or anything
like that.
You want to wear the tap outshirts and you've never fought a
day in your life and you'reyou're riding the scooter at the
fair because you can't make itto the big barn.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
Go for it, hey, buddy the only clothing that bothers
me and I'm serious, okay, theonly clothing.
That bothers me is whensomebody wears military stuff
and they've never been in themilitary.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
That bothers me a lot I only agree with that if they
are trying to put themselves outas being in the military.
Like they have the patches,they have the yeah but if you
got somebody wearing camo pants,I mean you can go down and get
him for that yeah, well, no, I'mnot saying that kind of camo.
I'm saying you know, one of yourgrandsons was big into that.
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You know he used to wear themilitary pants and the shirt
tucked in and the boots, but henever once made it like he was
in the military.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
I'm okay with that.
It bothers me.
It bothers me just because Idon't want somebody.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
I'm okay with that, because look at all those
pockets, so what's the?
Speaker 1 (21:49):
limit Just camo pants , or is it full on fatigues?
Speaker 3 (21:54):
No, I think that when you start, as Bobby said, when
you start conveying yourself assomeone who has been in the
military, so insignia patches.
So like the trousers are blouseand you have boots on and you
have everything and you kind ofact like you've been.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
Give me a break.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Well, that's like you know, that's like Becky out
here that wears real treehunting camo and she never been
in the forest a day in her life.
I'm offended that she's wearinghunting camo.
She never been in the forest aday in her life.
I'm offended that she's wearinghunting camo you ain't never
shot a deer, you've neverdressed one you.
You step on a stick and catch abug and it's over for you maybe
I'm offended about that.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
It's different, is it different?
Speaker 2 (22:35):
she's posing as a.
She's posing as a deer bunny Idon't know a bush.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
We kind of derailed on this whole thing.
I was kind of looking at shortskirts, low cleavage, you know
that sort of thing.
Hey, go for it.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
I'm all for it.
Man, If you're 88 years old andyou want to pull out the skirt
that you got your husband in in1932, go for it.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
I don't disagree.
I don't disagree with that.
I just don't like Feelbeautiful.
Go for it.
I don't disagree.
I don't disagree with that.
I just don't like Feelbeautiful.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
I mean, if that's what makes you feel beautiful
and not want to take yourselfout of this world every day, if
that's what it takes by God, gofor it.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
So I've seen these women on YouTube and they're
older women, older than me.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Well, that's impossible.
They don't know how to useYouTube.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
Dead science right there.
They're older than me and theyare dressing to the nines.
I mean they are dressing upevery single day.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
They are getting what else do they have to do?
Speaker 3 (23:31):
no, that's not it.
They have things to do.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Come on but I'm saying they're not working.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
If they're not, they got three hours, but their whole
thing was they want to lookbeautiful every day and it's,
you know, to me I.
I think it's kind of a coolthing, yeah, and you know I
dress up or I did anyway therefor a while, um, because I
worked sorry dr domain.
You came in too late I know, Iworked in an energy plant where
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I was wearing steel-toed boots,frc clothing, and so I was
running the show.
And when I go somewhere I liketo dress up Because I wasn't
able to be that feminine in thatenvironment and that type of
clothing.
And so when I go somewhere nowI like to dress up, I like to
(24:24):
curl my hair, I like to wearthese different clothes, right,
different shoes, and you know, Ilike the different 433 pairs of
boots that you own those 73pairs of sunglasses I like that
yeah, yeah, anyway.
Um, so you know, these women arewearing these really nice
clothing.
You know, mean, it would beevery day that you would look at
(24:45):
and you'd go.
That's not everyday clothing.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
But how cool is that.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
Yeah, you know rather than wearing sweatpants.
And if you're wearingsweatpants every day, I really
don't care.
Yeah, but I just think manthink of how good they feel
about themselves.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
I kind of wish that To look beautiful.
Yeah, I wish I think of howgood they feel about themselves.
I kind of wish that.
Yeah, I wish I could do that.
I wish that I did my makeup.
I wish I knew how to do makeupfirst of all, that doesn't look
like a halloween gore scene, butI wish that I knew how to do my
makeup every day.
I wish the murder happened overhere look, I can do effects
makeup with the best of them.
Okay, but when it comes, to.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
There's an outline of the body, right?
Speaker 2 (25:21):
yeah, like I can do like slashes through your face,
but I cannot contour worth ashit unless it's black and white
because you've done myhalloween, yeah and I used to
work at a place where I did uhhalloween effects makeup for
quite a while, but you know, Iwish that I had that.
So when I see people that everyday they do their makeup, they
do their hair, I am jealousabout that because I'm like I
(25:44):
want to be like that, but I knowthat I'm not like that.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
So Dr Domain's over here just perplexed because he's
going.
When do you dress up?
I'm not seeing you in anythingother than T-shirts and some
scraggly old.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
He has to live with your 400 pairs of boots.
I'm sure he knows that youdress up.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
No, you dress up.
Yeah, I like to.
I like to and I don't know, yousmell nice too when you do it.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
Aw.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
That's so sweet Anyways.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
Oh my gosh, that is so funny.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
But no, I mean, I'm all for all for it.
Man, if you want to wearwhatever you want to wear, if
you want to go around at 80years old wearing a football
jersey and a pair of bootyshorts I don't care if you're a
guy or a girl go for it.
If that's what make you, makesyou happy, go for it, like the
littlest things.
It's not my business.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
I agree with you and I guess that for me I don't know
about you, but for me that'sprobably all the madness and all
of the paranoia and mania andinstability that we have for
today, bobby.
So we appreciate you joining ushere at the Rabbit Hole Studio
every week.
Be sure to follow us.
(26:58):
We look forward to spendingtime with you.
Please like us and if you havepositive feedback or if there's
a topic that you want to talkabout, drop us in short email.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Drop us lots of topics, lots of them.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
Lots of them.
Yeah, we do need topics.
I mean, we have some but weneed more.
And you know what's funny I'mjust going to say it here real
quick on this outro is that wehave people who kind of approach
us and say, oh, we'd reallylike you to talk about this.
So we do get our ideas from ourlisteners, but you can drop us
a short email atboomerandjenexer at gmailcom.
(27:32):
If you have hate mail, well,you can show that somewhere else
, and you know that we're hereevery week.
So I'm Jane Burt and I'm BobbiJoy and you're stuck with us.
I messed that up.
What happened?
Oh my.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
God, try it again, Try it again.
I'm.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
Jane Burt and I'm Bobbi Joy, and you're stuck with
us.
Peace out Later.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
Welcome everyone to today's show a boomer and a Gen
Xer walking to a bar, coming toyou from the Rabbit Hole studio,
where you, as our listener,will experience some wit and
wisdom, some smart assery and amother and daughter questioning.
Are we even related?
My name is Bobbi Joy and myco-host is my lovely mother,
jane, and for the next littlewhile we're here to entertain
and I think today might, be,interesting.
Is it going to be interesting?
(28:31):
I think so, because you told mewhat we're going to talk about
and I kind of have a feelingthat we'll be kind of on the
opposite sides of the fence onthis one, will we?
I think so, huh.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Yeah, okay, the opposite sides of the fence on
this one, will we?
I think so, huh, yeah, okay.
So, first and foremost, uh,how's your chicken this week?
Speaker 2 (28:48):
he's good what's his name?
Oh well, I think that I'm gonna.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
I'm timmy so lyle, timothy and now timmy, okay okay
so you've got your therapychicken down there.
Hey, whatever happened to ourbook about Brenda and her beaver
?
Speaker 2 (29:07):
It gained a lot of popularity.
It hit the New York Timesbestseller list, did it really?
I don't know if it did, but shedoes actually have an entire
series of Brenda's beaver andwhat he does.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
So there's another book that we talked about, which
was who Will Eat my Clown?
Speaker 2 (29:24):
That book should be banned in.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
like five countries we read out of both of those
books, yeah, and we encouragedpeople to go get these books.
They are kind of characterbooks like cartoon type.
They look like kids books butthey are not.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
No, they are not.
It's kind of like how SausageParty looked like a kids movie
but it was not.
They are not.
It's kind of like how sausageparty looked like a kid's movie
but it was not.
It was not sausage party.
Oh my god people taking theirkids to it, thinking it's a
kid's movie.
I'm like so what gave it away?
The mature rating or the factthat the title is sausage party,
and they're like, we thought itwas a kid's movie.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
It's like wow so there was a a podcast that we
did about laws that we talkedabout here recently, and there
was something that you hadbrought up afterwards that we
kind of want to talk about.
I mean, I just I thought it wasinteresting when you brought it
up, so bring it up again oh,the one that I forgot.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
That I said should be legal in all the states.
Yeah, yeah.
So I believe that if twoconsenting adults would like to
duel with no weapons, it shouldbe legal.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
Ow, there should be no assault charges.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
No, baby, wah wow when you lose, calling the cops,
so you should be able to standout in the front yard and have a
fist fight.
Absolutely no weapons, noweapons, just a fist fight and
whoever is left standing,they're the winner yeah, I mean
if you, if to, if both peopleconsent.
I mean whoever was punched inthe mouth, you know oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
So whoever was left standing was the winner.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Yeah, and nobody went home crying to their mom or dad
or anything like well, no,because a lot of times,
especially in my generation, ifyou go home and say you lost the
fight at school, you got yourass whooped again when you got
home.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
So that's not true, but I'm my generation.
Yes, I will say, as one of yourparents, I did say that you
know, if somebody comes afteryou and they try to take you
down, you give them everythingyou've got.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Yeah, I was always taught don't start it, but you
finish it.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
You finish it Absolutely.
You betcha, you betcha, and Iremember your sister.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
Bless her heart.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
And I'm off topic because this isn't even our
topic today- no, it's not yoursister got into a fight with
somebody at the roller skatingrink and I think she was like 14
years old.
Yeah, I was there and this girlwas really bullying her badly.
I pulled up and I heardsomebody because my window was
down.
Oh my gosh, her mom's here andI remember this girl.
(32:07):
When I got up there she beatthe crap out of my other
daughter.
Yeah, and I go.
What happened?
And she goes?
Well, my daughter, she saidwell, you know, she went to take
her coat off and I go that wasthe time to drop her I mean her
arms are back.
Yeah, you know she's taking hercoat off to beat the crap out of
you and you're standing there.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
And the funny thing was, before you pulled up,
little nine and ten-year-old mehad taken my skate off and was
trying to hit the girl with myroller skate because my sister
was getting her ass whooped.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
She was, and I mean it was interesting.
It was like holy crap.
So you let her take her coatoff and she's got her arms
behind her.
I'd have dropped her to theground right there.
I mean, sorry, folks, Suckerpunch.
Yeah, I would have let her haveit and you know it was all a
done deal by the time I walkedup to that little girl and she
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wasn't little, she was 14 yearsold and I don't give a shit that
she was underage because shewas a bully.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
But right, because she was, she was a bully, yeah,
but anyway, that was back in theday, back in the day back in
the day before laws were laws.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
So our topic today I wanted to talk to you about and
maybe we will disagree isfashion.
And what age are you, or whenis it acceptable and when is it
not acceptable for men and womento wear certain clothing?
So the reason I bring this upis because I am the boomer and I
am in my 60s and I still wear alot of clothes that probably,
(33:34):
uh, might be too young for me.
What do you think?
Speaker 2 (33:36):
I think that you're delusional in that now maybe
some of the cuts and stuff mightbe a little risque for your age
, but the clothes that you wear,I can guarantee you nobody
under 50 knows those clothes.
What I mean?
The style and stuff.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
It's definitely old woman style I wear hip hugger
bell bottoms.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
Bless your heart.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
Is that a bad thing?
I wear t-shirts.
I shop at Marshalls.
I don't shop at Marshalls.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
I know you don't because that's too young for you
.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
So at what point do you know?
Because I see some people andI'll talk about women
specifically, because that'skind of what I look at and more
women look at other women thanthey do men.
Did you know that?
Speaker 2 (34:19):
Yeah, it's judgmental .
Speaker 3 (34:21):
It's very judgmental and it's.
You know, do they look betterthan me?
Do they look younger than me?
Are they wearing clothes that Iwant to have?
So Dr Domain is over here doingsome sign language and we're
not liking it.
Dr Domain, you might want tojust I didn't say anything.
I know you didn't say anything.
There's a reason that womenlook at other women yeah, and
(34:42):
it's because we look to see howthey're, we look to compare, we
do, we look to compare ourselvesto them, but then again.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
I mean like I'm, I'm 100 straight.
I don't know what they callthat anymore I think, they call
it something there's a name forit out of style I guess, um.
But if there is a woman wholooks just fabulous, you know
I'm going to look.
I'm not going to be like, ohbaby, but I'm going to
appreciate the female body andgo man, I wish I could look like
(35:13):
that type of thing.
But you know, something that Ilearned a long time ago,
especially when dealing with myown body issues and things like
that was there are two train ofthoughts that you have.
The first, the very first thingthat you think of when you see
someone, is what you were taught, how you were conditioned.
The second thought that comesto your mind is who you are.
(35:36):
So a lot of people will seethese women and go oh my God,
she's dressed like a slut.
And then the next thought isyou go girl, good for you, I'm
proud of you for wearing slut.
And then the next thought isyou go girl, good for you, I'm
proud of you for wearing that.
Because the first thought ishow you're conditioned, what
you're raised to believe,whether it be with family,
friends, the people you surroundyourself with.
The second thought is who youactually are okay, I'm not sure
(35:58):
I agree with that.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
Um well, you're not a psychologist.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
So no, but I've got more background than you do.
What a waste.
Oh my gosh what a waste.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
So, anyways, that college degree was wasted on my
mom.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
I mean, I think it's a, it's a family thing.
We all kind of waste ourcollege degrees.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
But yeah, let's go for it, okay, so clothing but so
I just I want to say that Idon't agree with that, because
I'm not sure that I was everconditioned as a child.
We were so poor, well you guyswore burlap sacks I mean
literally.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
We were just happy to have clothes.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
You know from the church that would hand them down
to us.
Honest to god, that is thetruth.
So, as an older woman, I dowear, you know, my skirts a
little shorter.
I don't wear long skirts.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
But you're also a smaller woman, You're not.
You don't have a large frame,You're not carrying a bunch of
extra body weight type of thing.
You, you're a.
You're a very slender woman.
So it would be more fitting,socially acceptable.
Let me rephrase that it wouldbe more socially acceptable for
someone your age to wear maybe aslightly shorter skirt than,
(37:06):
let's say, someone who washeavier in your age.
People would look down on it ifit was a shorter skirt.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
Okay, so I get that, but is that then fat shaming
type thing?
Speaker 2 (37:16):
Body shaming it is, it's a body shaming thing, but I
also think that, looking atsomeone and seeing what they're
wearing and going, you shouldn'tbe wearing that look, unless
it's a thong bikini at a publicpool where a bunch of children
are.
I'm not, you know.
Wear what you want.
Wear what makes you happy.
Yeah, you know, but it is.
It's a body shaming thing, it'san age shaming thing, it's a
(37:38):
really it all comes down to ajealousy thing well, you made
the comment that you know, ifyou saw a really attractive
woman, that you would go.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
Yeah, she looks great .
Speaker 2 (37:48):
I would too, absolutely, absolutely not
ashamed to look at another woman, because we do compare
ourselves we do, women, I do Iwould like my hair to look like
that we do or I would like tohave that body shape and I've
worked, I've worked really hardto actually change my mindset
from having like a jealousmindset over what other women
look like to going, wow, shelooks great.
(38:10):
Right, good for her right.
She must have put in a lot ofwork.
You know you can tell,especially people who have
recently lost a lot of weight.
You know they do have that skinissue and things.
I look at them go wow, thatmust have been really hard for
them.
Speaker 3 (38:24):
Yeah, like they must be really proud to be able to
wear a tank top even though theyhave this skin, to have lost
all that weight and feelcomfortable in order to walk out
in it and I have a habit not ahabit, I will say I feel very
comfortable walking up to aperfect stranger and saying, wow
, that dress looks great on you,yeah, or that color looks great
on you, yeah, or that color isbeautiful on you.
(38:46):
As a matter of fact, I went tothe doctor yesterday and a gal
was walking out and she had thecutest shoes on an older lady
yeah, cutest shoes.
And I got past her and I turnedaround and I said, hey, I just
have to tell you those are thecutest shoes.
And she stopped, smiled, toldme about her shoes.
(39:06):
She had had them for whateverand she got them wherever.
And I said well, they sure lookcute on you.
It probably made her day.
Yeah, you know, but I am notafraid to tell somebody, man,
they're beautiful, right, andwe'll be watching Dr Domaine and
I will be watching a show andwe'll I'll go wow, that woman
has a beautiful face.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
Or she has beautiful hair.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
But I mean, but a lot of people think, okay, well,
you can have that beauty, butyou need to, you know, dress age
appropriately, and it's notjust for women, it's guys too,
Right?
You see, you know 50-year-oldguys out here in DCs and hurly
shirts with the backwardsbaseball cap and the chains, and
I know a lot of people havesaid, oh my God, grow up, why
(39:50):
don't you dress for your age?
It's like what do you want themto wear?
Like Peaky Blinders, 1920s, youknow outfits.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
So what do you think about guys who wear button-down
shirts?
Speaker 2 (40:03):
and have the first three buttons unbuttoned Drug
dealer.
Speaker 3 (40:07):
They're part of the drug cartel.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
If need cocaine.
That's where I'm going.
That's all I'm saying.
You look for the three buttons,undone or the top button done
either way, you're guaranteed toscore something.
I look at them and I think 70sporn star, yes well, they gotta
have the stash and the hair andthe gold chain.
Speaker 3 (40:26):
Yeah, yeah, definitely yeah definitely, and
so, yeah, I do think about thattoo, and I probably shouldn't,
but it does bring back memories,I mean as long as it didn't
come out of your mouth.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
Like I said, you know , the worst superhero uh power
to have is to read people'sthoughts, because the things I
think on on an hourly basis thatgoes through my head could
probably get me in guantanamobay at this point now I have.
Speaker 3 (40:51):
You're gonna go to that alligator, alcatraz?
Speaker 2 (40:54):
I am yes yes, you know, they're selling t-shirts.
I might want one.
We may need one.
Speaker 3 (41:00):
Um, so I I will be.
I will say I'm very guiltyabout looking at someone and if
I know them pretty well, I might, and I've done this to you or
to your sister.
Speaker 2 (41:11):
No.
Speaker 3 (41:12):
I have looked at people and waved my hand and
went what's going on here?
What is the deal?
Speaker 2 (41:16):
Oh yeah, all the time .
What's this, what is this, whatis this that we're?
Speaker 3 (41:19):
doing here.
Speaker 1 (41:20):
What are we doing, what are we wearing?
Speaker 3 (41:22):
Because that does not go together.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
And why are you wearing that?
Like that, like just the other,just the other podcast that we,
we recorded you?
You mentioned about the factthat I was wearing shorts yes, I
don't wear shorts.
Yeah, I really don't.
Unless I'm at the beach orsomething like that, I don't
wear shorts.
And I was just like, okay, wellf you, I just wanted to wear
shorts, leave me alone.
But it was laundry day yes, andyou explained that.
Speaker 3 (41:46):
But at what point do you stop wearing daisy?
Speaker 1 (41:49):
duke your short up your butt, hey I had stretch
shorts underneath, no I know youdid, but I'm talking
temperature drops below 100there you go.
Speaker 3 (41:57):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (41:58):
Of course, that coming, I thought he was gonna
say when your skin drops belowyour knees, where your butt is
yeah, it's hot.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
It's been hot, so he was wearing the daisy is
weighing in on this yeah, and sobecause he will be the first
one to say why don't you wearsomething like that?
Speaker 3 (42:16):
or, you know, thong underwear uh, I'm old.
First of all floss yeah, and itlooks like you know I'm trying
to put you know some type ofstring around the raisin, it's
not pretty well.
Speaker 2 (42:29):
That's why I said, especially like in public pools
and stuff, the women who wearthe thong bikinis and things
like that put your butt away,ma'am.
Yeah, like I understand we'reswimming and things, but there's
children at that eye level thathave to look at that and our
butts hang a lot lower than theyused to.
Speaker 3 (42:46):
Yes, yes, and even if it doesn't mine used to be up
and perky, Not anymore okay.
Speaker 2 (42:51):
It's hanging down to the back of my legs.
Even if you're 20 years old andin your prime and you just got
the perfect butt, I don't wantto see it out at the pool.
Speaker 1 (43:00):
So what about?
So there are limits, there arelimits.
Speaker 2 (43:03):
That's my.
One limit is the whole thongunderwear or a thong bikini.
Speaker 1 (43:06):
That's pretty subjective, though, right.
Speaker 2 (43:08):
In a public place with children.
I just, I don't.
Speaker 3 (43:11):
Is that age appropriate?
I mean if it was a young person, would it make any difference.
Speaker 2 (43:17):
If it was a guy, I would still have the same
feeling.
Speaker 1 (43:20):
So what about the folks that board the plane that
look like they just left thecarnival?
Speaker 2 (43:26):
You know, they got their pajamas on and clown pants
and fuzzy slippers Guilty,because if I'm on a plane for
six hours, I want to becomfortable.
Speaker 1 (43:35):
What if they're wearing a thong though I'm part
of the old clown gang If they'reonly wearing a thong.
If they're wearing a thong,yeah If they're only wearing a
thong.
Speaker 2 (43:40):
How did they get past TSA?
Well, it was easy come on,there's nothing to search there.
No, you're not.
You're not putting your barebutt cheeks on places where
other people sit.
You shouldn't be wearing it toa pool.
If you want to go to the lake,like a private lake access, and
wear your thong bikini, flossyour butt all you want, I don't
(44:00):
care, but please keep it out ofthe public swimming pools what
about somebody?
Speaker 3 (44:06):
because you see this on TV a lot now because there's
so many reality shows.
I don't even watch reality andall you can't flip a channel
without seeing some reality showwhere somebody is either trying
to marry somebody or trying todivorce somebody or trying to
get their money.
Speaker 2 (44:22):
Sounds like your algorithm knows you, I guess,
because mine are all crimedocumentaries.
Speaker 3 (44:26):
Well, I got those too yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:28):
But anyways yes, because mine are all crime
documentaries.
Speaker 3 (44:29):
Well, I got those too , yeah, but anyways.
But anyway, the low cleavagestuff, you know, like the really
low cut stuff.
And I think there's an age forthat?
Speaker 1 (44:37):
I gotta be honest.
I think there's an age for that.
It mirrors our morality, orlack thereof.
Speaker 3 (44:44):
What I think.
So, oh yeah, no, absolutely not.
Speaker 2 (44:53):
A lot of these shows, are you know?
Speaker 1 (44:54):
they were really really tight fitting, super
revealing, yeah, but it just itkind of matches the mentality
level of it.
Speaker 2 (44:58):
But you're telling me that Zeke down the road, who
weighs 450 pounds and has boobsbigger than me, can go without a
shirt and it's fine.
Speaker 1 (45:15):
But if I wear a low cut cleavage shirt because my
boobs sag a little when I'm 60,then that's an issue nope zeke
needs to cover up.
He needs some tassels he needsto get on a reality show.
Speaker 2 (45:20):
He needs to get yeah but no I don't.
I don't think that low cutthings.
I mean, if your boobs hang toyour knees and you want a low
cut shirt, god bless your heart,man, go for it.
Speaker 3 (45:31):
I guess I think it's at that point.
I think it's tacky.
Speaker 2 (45:34):
I think it's wear what you want to wear.
Because no?
Speaker 1 (45:38):
no, that's not what you said.
Except for the thongs on thereare conditions, so you can't
wear whatever you want to wear.
Speaker 2 (45:44):
Just put the asterisk there and it just.
It's stuck there, OK so whatabout men?
Speaker 3 (45:49):
Because I think at some point men need to stop
wearing skinny jeans wearingtheir hats backwards and not
wearing socks with their littleloafers.
Speaker 2 (46:01):
First of all, anybody who doesn't wear socks with
shoes should be taken out andshot.
I'm sorry, that is the grossestthing.
I don't care if you're wearingboat shoes, dock shoes.
Hey dudes, I don't care whatthey are, your feet smell, bro.
Okay, I'm sorry, unless it'sslides or flip flops, put some
damn socks on.
Speaker 3 (46:17):
I struggle with guys that are older wearing skinny
jeans and the short skinny jeans.
You know what I mean thatthey're shorter.
What do you mean?
Speaker 2 (46:27):
Like high waters.
Speaker 3 (46:29):
Yeah, not like capri pants.
Speaker 2 (46:30):
Now she tells me she's calling you out bud,
because I've seen a lot of this.
Speaker 3 (46:36):
But like short skinny jeans, and then they've got
little loafers on with no socksand their shirt is buttoned down
and it's like you know, threebuttons down, Are you?
Speaker 2 (46:48):
at the Blazing Saddle gay bar again.
No, because I'm telling you,you just named like eight people
in there right now?
Speaker 1 (46:55):
No, I know.
Speaker 2 (46:55):
No, I get what you're saying, but no, I don't have a
problem with that.
I don't have a problem withthat If you want to wear your
hat backwards and you know wearyour piercings.
Speaker 3 (47:04):
I think if you're over 25, you don't need to be
wearing your hat backwards.
Speaker 2 (47:07):
I think you need to grow up.
No, no, that's.
I disagree.
I disagree.
I wear it right If you're over25, for crying out loud your
ship has sailed.
Speaker 3 (47:15):
Your ship has sailed.
Speaker 2 (47:17):
Look, if you give me a tattooed dad bod guy with the
beard and he turns his hataround backwards, it's over.
Speaker 3 (47:23):
I'm getting married, a dad bod.
Speaker 2 (47:25):
Okay, no, bad bod.
Okay, no, yeah, no, and I wanthim to wear a tight shirt too.
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (47:33):
To show those man boobs.
Show them boobs, baby.
I also think that if you'regoing to wear a muscle shirt or
a sleeveless shirt, that youshould have muscles, okay, not
just fat arms.
Welcome to the gun show, yeah.
Welcome to the gun show, that'sgun show.
That's nothing but fat there,big boy, you know, like the bat
wings where they flap, and thenyou can fly over it.
Or somebody comes up and youknow wants to Threaten you and
(47:57):
it's like what are you going todo?
Chase me, because you're like350, 400 pounds.
I'm sorry, I'm not fat shaming,I could care less that you're
fat.
Okay, I really truly do.
But don't less that you're fat.
I really and truly do.
But don't act like you're allthat.
Don't act like you're.
Speaker 2 (48:12):
Mr Universe, you want to wear the tap out shirts and
you've never fought a day inyour life and you're riding the
scooter At the fair because youcan't make it to the big barn.
Go for it.
Speaker 3 (48:24):
The only clothing that bothers me.
Speaker 2 (48:27):
And I'm serious.
Speaker 3 (48:28):
The only clothing that bothers me and I'm serious.
The only clothing that bothersme is when somebody wears
military stuff and they've neverbeen in the military.
That bothers me a lot.
Speaker 2 (48:35):
I only agree with that if they are trying to put
themselves out as being in themilitary.
Like they have the patches,they have the insignia.
Speaker 1 (48:43):
Trying to be an imposter, yeah.
Speaker 2 (48:45):
But if you got somebody wearing camo pants, I
mean you can go down and getthem.
You can go down and get him forthat yeah, well, no, I'm not
saying that kind of camo.
I'm saying you know, one ofyour grandsons was big into that
.
You know he used to wear themilitary pants and the shirt
tucked in and the boots, but henever once made it like he was
in the military I'm okay withthat, bothers me, it bothers me
(49:06):
just I'm okay with that, becauselook at all those pockets, so
what's?
Speaker 1 (49:09):
the limit Just camo pants, or is it full on fatigues
?
Speaker 3 (49:14):
No, I think that when you start, as Bobby said, when
you start conveying yourself assomeone who has been in the
military, so insignia patches.
Speaker 1 (49:27):
So like the trousers are blouse and you have boots on
.
Speaker 3 (49:30):
You have everything and you kind of act like you've
been.
Speaker 1 (49:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (49:35):
Give me a break, well , that's like Becky out here
that wears real tree huntingcamo and she never been in the
forest a day in her life.
I'm offended that she's wearinghunting camo.
Speaker 1 (49:45):
You ain't never shot a deer, you've never dressed one
.
Speaker 2 (49:49):
You step on a stick and catch a bug and it's over
for you maybe I'm offended aboutthat.
Speaker 1 (49:52):
It's different, is it different?
She's posing as a.
Speaker 3 (49:56):
She's posing as a deer bunny I don't know a bush
bunny we kind of derailed onthis whole thing.
I was kind of looking at shortskirts, low cleavage, you know
that sort of thing, hey go forit, I'm all for it.
Speaker 2 (50:11):
Man, if you're 88 years old and you want to pull
out the, the skirt that you gotyour husband in in 19 you know
32 go for it.
Speaker 3 (50:19):
I, I don't disagree.
I don't disagree with that, Ijust feel beautiful.
I mean, if that one.
Speaker 2 (50:25):
If that's what makes you feel beautiful and not want
to take yourself out of thisworld every day, if that's what
it you feel beautiful and notwant to take yourself out of
this world every day.
If that's what it takes by God,go for it.
Speaker 3 (50:33):
So I've seen these women on YouTube and they're
older women, older than me, noway.
Speaker 2 (50:38):
Well, that's impossible.
They don't know how to useYouTube.
Speaker 3 (50:41):
Dead silence right there.
They're older than me and theyare dressing to the nines.
I mean they are dressing upevery single day.
Speaker 2 (50:49):
They are getting what else do they have to do?
Speaker 3 (50:52):
no, that's not it.
They have things to do.
Speaker 2 (50:54):
Come on but I'm saying they're not working.
Speaker 3 (50:56):
If they're not, they got three hours, but their whole
thing was they want to lookbeautiful every day and it's,
you know, to me I.
I think it's kind of a coolthing, yeah, and I dress up, or
I did anyway there for a while,because I worked-.
Speaker 2 (51:14):
Sorry, Dr Domain, you came in too late.
Speaker 3 (51:16):
I know I worked in an energy plant where I was
wearing steel-toed boots, frcclothing, and so I was running
the show.
And when I go somewhere I liketo dress up, yeah, because I,
you know, I wasn't able to bethat feminine in those kinds of
(51:37):
in the, in that environment, inthat type of clothing, right.
And so when I go somewhere now,I like to dress up, I like to
curl my hair, I like to wearthese different clothes, right,
different shoes, and you know, Ilike the different 433 pairs of
boots that you own, the 73pairs of sunglasses.
I like that, yeah, yeah, anyway.
(51:58):
Um, so you know, these womenare wearing these really nice
clothing.
You know, I mean, it would beevery day that you would look at
and you'd go.
That's not everyday clothing,but how cool is that yeah, you
know rather than sweatpants.
And if you're wearingsweatpants every day, I really
don't care.
Yeah, but I just think manthink of how good they feel
(52:21):
about themselves.
Speaker 2 (52:22):
I kind of wish that.
Yeah, I wish I could do that.
I wish that I did my makeup.
I wish I knew how to do makeup.
First of all, that doesn't looklike a Halloween gore scene,
but I wish that I knew how to domy makeup every day.
Speaker 3 (52:35):
I wish murder happened over here.
Speaker 2 (52:35):
Look, I can do effects makeup with the best of
them, okay, but when it comes tolike outline of the body right
yeah.
Like I can do like slashesthrough your face, but I cannot
contour worth a shit unless it'sblack and white, because you've
(52:56):
done my halloween.
Yeah, and I used to work at aplace where I did, uh, halloween
effects makeup for quite awhile, but you know, I wish that
I had that.
So when I see people that everyday they do their makeup, they
do their hair, I am jealousabout that because I'm like I
want to be like that, but I knowthat I'm not like that so dr
domain's over here justperplexed because he's going
when do you dress up?
Speaker 3 (53:14):
I'm not seeing you in anything other than t-shirts
and some scraggly old.
Speaker 2 (53:20):
He has to live with your 400 pairs of boots.
I'm sure he knows that youdress up.
Speaker 1 (53:24):
No, you dress up, I do, I like to.
Speaker 3 (53:27):
I like to, and I don't know, dress up.
Speaker 1 (53:29):
No, you dress up, yeah, I like to, I like to and
and um.
Speaker 3 (53:30):
You smell nice too when you do it oh that's so
sweet anyways oh my gosh, thatis so funny but no, I mean, I'm
all for it.
Speaker 2 (53:44):
man, if you want to wear whatever you want to wear,
if you want to go around at 80years old wearing a football
jersey and a pair of bootyshorts I don't care if you're a
guy or a girl go for it.
If that's what makes you happy,go for it.
Like the littlest things, it'snot my business.
I agree with you.
Speaker 3 (54:00):
And I guess that for me I don't know about you, but
for me that's probably all themadness and all of the paranoia
and mania and instability thatwe have for today, bobby.
So we appreciate you joining ushere at the Rabbit Hole Studio
every week.
Be sure to follow us.
We look forward to spendingtime with you.
(54:20):
Please like us and if you havepositive feedback or if there's
a topic that you want to talkabout, drop us in short email.
Speaker 2 (54:29):
Drop us lots of topics, lots of them.
Speaker 3 (54:31):
Lots of them.
Yeah, we do need topics.
I mean, we have some but weneed more.
And you know, what's funny I'mjust going to say it here real
quick on this outro is that wehave people who kind of approach
us and say, oh, we'd reallylike you to talk about this.
So we do get our ideas from ourlisteners, but you can drop us
a short email at boomer and genxer at gmailcom.
(54:53):
If you have hate mail, well, um, you can show that, uh,
somewhere else.
And, uh, you know that, um,we're here every week.
So I'm jane burke and I'm bobbyjoy and you're stuck with us.
I messed that up.
Oh my, what happened?
Oh my God, try it again.
Try it again.
I'm Jane Bird and I'm Bobby Joyand you're stuck with us.
Peace out Later.
No way Ow.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Welcome everyone to today's show a boomer and a Gen
Xer walking to a bar, coming toyou from the rabbit hole studio,
where you, as our listener,will experience some wit and
wisdom, some smart assery and amother and daughter questioning.
Are we even related?
My name is Bobbi Joy and myco-host is my lovely mother,
jane, and for the next littlewhile we're here to entertain,
(00:35):
and I think today might beinteresting Is it going to be
interesting?
I think so, because you told mewhat we're going to talk about
and I kind of have a feelingthat we'll be kind of on the
opposite sides of the fence onthis one, will we?
I think so, huh.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Yeah, okay.
So, first and foremost, how'syour chicken this week?
He's good.
What's his?
Speaker 2 (00:58):
name.
Oh well, I think that I'm goingto.
I'm Timmy.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
So Lyle, timothy, and now Timmy, timmy, timmy, Okay,
okay.
So you've got your therapychicken down there.
Hey, whatever happened to ourbook about Brenda and her beaver
?
Speaker 2 (01:16):
It gained a lot of popularity.
It hit the New York Timesbestseller list, did it really?
I don't know if it did, but shedoes actually have an entire
series of brenda's beaver andwhat he does.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
so there's another book that we talked about, which
was who will eat my clown?
Speaker 2 (01:33):
that book should be banned.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
We read in like five countries both of those books,
yeah, and we encouraged peopleto go get these books.
They are kind of characterbooks, uh, like cartoon type.
They look like kids books butthey are not no, they are not.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
It's kind of like how sausage party looked like a
kid's movie, but it was not.
It was not sausage party.
Oh my god people taking theirkids to it, thinking it's a
kid's movie.
I'm like so what gave it away?
The mature rating or the factthat the title is sausage party,
and they're like we thought itwas a kids movie.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
It's like wow so there was um a podcast that we
did about laws that we talkedabout here recently, and there
was something that you hadbrought up afterwards that we
kind of want to talk about.
I mean, I just I thought it wasinteresting when you brought it
up, so bring it up again oh,the one that I forgot.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
That I said should be legal in all the states.
Yeah, yeah.
So I believe that if twoconsenting adults would like to
duel with no weapons, it shouldbe legal there should be no
assault charges.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
No, baby, wow, wow when you lose calling the cops
so you should be able to standout in the front yard and have a
fist fight.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Absolutely no weapons , no weapons just a fist fight
and whoever is left standing,they're the winner yeah, I mean
if you, if, if both peopleconsent and they're both adults,
why not?
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Yeah, I don't disagree with that because you
know, as a hillbilly redneck,that's kind of how we were
raised, right?
Speaker 2 (03:13):
I mean, we got raised , getting punched in the mouth,
you know.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Oh my gosh.
So whoever was left standingwas the winner.
Yeah, and nobody went homecrying to their mom or dad or
anything like well, no, becausea lot of times, especially in my
generation, if you go home andsay you lost the fight at school
, you got your ass whooped againwhen you got home that's not
true, but I my generation yes,but I will say, as one of your
(03:38):
parents I did say, that you know, if somebody comes after you
and they try to take you down,you give them everything you've
got yeah, I was always taughtdon't start it, but you finish
it, you finish absolutely, you,betcha, and I remember your
sister um and I'm off I'm offtopic because this isn't even
our topic today it's not yoursister got into a fight with
(04:00):
somebody at the roller skatingrink and I think oh yeah, I was
14 years old.
Yeah, I was there and she, thisgirl was really bullying her
badly.
And um, I pulled up and I heardsomebody because my window was
down.
Oh my gosh, her mom's here, yep, and uh, I remember this girl.
(04:20):
Uh, when I got up there she'dbeat the.
She beat the crap out of myother daughter.
Yeah, and I go.
What happened?
And she goes?
Well, my daughter, she said,well, you know, she went to take
her coat off and I go.
That was a time to drop it.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
I mean her arms are back.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
She's taking her coat off to beat the crap out of you
, and you're standing there.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
And the funny thing was, before you pulled up,
little 9 and 10-year-old me hadtaken my skate off and was
trying to hit the girl with myroller skate because my sister
was getting her ass whooped.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
She was, she was, and I mean it was interesting.
It was like holy crap.
So you, let her take her coatoff and she's got her arms
around her.
Let her take her coat off andshe's got her arms right.
I'd have dropped her to theground, right there.
I mean sorry folks, but suckerpunch, yeah, I would have let
her have it and you know it wasall a done deal.
By the time I walked up to thatlittle girl and, uh, she wasn't
(05:14):
little, she was 14 years oldand I don't give a shit that she
was underage because she was.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
She was a bully yeah but anyway, that was back in the
day, I mean back in the day,back in the day before laws were
laws.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
So our topic today I wanted to talk to you about and
maybe we will disagree isfashion.
And what age are you, or whenis it acceptable and when is it
not acceptable for men and womento wear certain clothing?
So the reason I bring this upis because I am the boomer and I
(05:49):
am in my 60s and I still wear alot of clothes that probably,
uh, might be too young for me.
What do you think?
Speaker 2 (05:57):
I think that you're delusional in that now maybe
some of the cuts and stuff mightbe a little risque for your age
, but the clothes that you wear,I can guarantee you nobody
under 50 knows knows thoseclothes.
I mean the style and stuff.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
It's definitely old I wore hip hugger bell bottoms
bless your heart is that a badthing?
I wear t-shirts marshalls.
I don't shop at Marshalls.
I don't shop at Marshalls.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
I know you don't because that's too young for you
.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
So at what point do you know?
Because I see some people andI'll talk about women
specifically, because that'skind of what I look at and more
women look at other women thanthey do men.
Did you know that?
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Yeah, it's judgmental .
Speaker 3 (06:42):
It's very judgmental, and it's.
You know, do they look betterthan me?
Do they look younger than me?
Are they wearing clothes that Iwant to have?
And so Dr Domain is over heredoing some sign language and
we're not liking it.
Dr Domain, you might want tojust, I didn't say anything.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
I know you didn't say anything.
There's a reason that womenlook at other women.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Yeah, and it's because we look to see how
they're hearing, we look tocompare, we do, we look to
compare ourselves to them, butthen again.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
I mean like I'm 100% straight.
I don't know what they callthat anymore.
I think they call it somethingthere's a name for it Out of
style I guess, but before Idon't give a shit, I guess, um.
But if there is a woman wholooks just fabulous, you know
I'm gonna look.
I'm not gonna be like, oh baby,but I'm gonna appreciate the
(07:33):
female body and go, man, I wishI could look like that type of
thing.
But you know, something that Ilearned a long time ago,
especially when dealing with myown body issues and things like
that, was there are two train ofthoughts that you have.
The first, the very first thingthat you think of when you see
someone, is what you are taught,how you are conditioned.
(07:54):
The second thought that comesto your mind is who you are.
So a lot of people will seethese women and go oh, my god,
she's dressed like a slut.
And then the next thought isyou go, girl, good for you, I'm
proud of you for wearing that.
Because the first thought ishow you're conditioned, what
you're raised to believe,whether it be with family,
(08:14):
friends, the people you surroundyourself with.
The second thought is who youactually are okay, I'm not sure
I agree with that.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Um well, you're not a psychologist.
So no, but I've got what awaste oh my gosh, what a waste
that college degree was wastedon my mom I mean, I think it's a
, it's a family thing.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
We all kind of waste our college degrees.
But yeah, let's go for it.
Okay, so clothing.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
But so I, just I, I, I want to say that, um, I don't
agree with that, because I'm notsure that I was ever
conditioned as a child.
We were so poor, well, you guyswore burlap sacks.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
I mean literally, we were just happy to have clothes
you know from the church thatwould hand them down to us.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Uh, honest to god, that is the truth, but um.
So, as an older woman, I dowear, you know, my skirts a
little shorter.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
I don't wear long skirts but you're also a smaller
woman, you're not?
You're not.
You don't have a large frame,you're not carrying a bunch of
extra body weight type of thing.
You, you're a.
You're a very slender woman,and so it would be more fitting,
socially acceptable.
Let me rephrase that it wouldbe more socially acceptable for
(09:34):
someone your age to wear maybe aslightly shorter skirt than,
let's say, someone who washeavier in your age.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
People would look down on it if it was a shorter
skirt okay, all right, so I getthat, but is that then fat
shaming type thing?
Speaker 2 (09:50):
body shame it is, it's a body shaming thing, but I
also think that, looking atsomeone and seeing what they're
wearing and going, you shouldn'tbe wearing that.
Look, unless it's a thongbikini at a public pool where a
bunch of children are.
I'm not, you know.
Wear what you want.
Wear what makes you happy.
Yeah, you know, but it is.
It's a body shaming thing, it'san age shaming thing, it's a
(10:13):
really it all comes down to ajealousy thing well, you made
the comment that you know, ifyou saw a really attractive
woman, that you would go.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Yeah, she looks great .
I would too, absolutely,absolutely not ashamed to look
at another woman, because we docompare ourselves we do, women,
I do I would like my hair tolook like that we do or I would
like to have that body shape.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
And I've worked, I've worked really hard to actually
change my mindset from havinglike a jealous mindset over what
other women look like to going,wow, she, she looks great,
right, good for her.
Right, she must have put in alot of work.
You know you can tell,especially people who have
recently lost a lot of weight.
You know they do have that skinissue and things.
I look at him and go, wow, thatmust have been really hard for
(10:59):
them.
Yeah, like they must be reallyproud to be able to wear a tank
top even though they have thisskin, to have lost all that
weight and feel comfortable inorder to walk out in it.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
And I have a habit not a habit, I will say I feel
very comfortable walking up to aperfect stranger and saying,
wow, that dress looks great onyou.
Yeah, or that color isbeautiful on you, or that color
is beautiful on you.
As a matter of fact, I went tothe doctor yesterday and a gal
was walking out and she had thecutest shoes on an older lady,
(11:30):
the cutest shoes.
And I got past her and I turnedaround and I said, hey, I just
have to tell you those are thecutest shoes.
And she stopped, smiled, toldme about her shoes.
She had had them for whateverand she got them wherever.
And I said, well, they surelook cute on you.
It probably made her day.
Yeah, you know, but I am notafraid to tell somebody, man,
(11:53):
they're beautiful.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Right, and we'll be watching Dr Domaine and I will
be watching a show and I'll gowow, that woman has a beautiful
face, yeah, or she has beautifulhair, but I mean, but a lot of
people think, okay, well, youcan have that beauty, but you
need to dress age appropriately.
And it's not just for women,it's guys too.
(12:15):
Right, I mean you see, you know50-year-old guys out here in DCs
and hurly shirts with thebackwards baseball cap and the
chains and I know a lot ofpeople have said, oh my god,
grow up, why don't you dress foryour age?
It's like what do you want themto wear?
Speaker 3 (12:29):
like peaky blinders, 1920s, you know outfits so what
do you think about guys who wearbuttoned down shirts and have
the first three buttonsunbuttoned?
Um drug dealer they're part ofthe drug cartel if I need
cocaine.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
That's where I'm going.
That's all I'm saying.
You look for the three buttons,undone or the top button, done
either way, you're guaranteed toscore.
I look at them and I think 70sporn star, yes well, they got to
have the stash and the hair andthe gold chain.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Yeah, yeah, definitely yeah definitely, and
so, yeah, I do think about thattoo, and I probably shouldn't,
but it does bring back memories,I mean as long as it didn't
come out of your mouth.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Like I said, you know , the worst superhero uh power
to have is to read people'sthoughts, because the things I
think on on an hourly basis thatgoes through my head could
probably get me in guantanamobay at this point now I have.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
You're gonna go to that alligator, alcatraz?
Speaker 2 (13:30):
I am yes yes, you know, they're selling t-shirts.
I might want one.
We may need one.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
Um, so I I will be.
I will say I'm very guiltyabout looking at someone and if
I know them pretty well, I might, and I've done this to you or
to your sister no I have lookedat people and waved my hand and
went what's going on here?
What is the deal?
Speaker 2 (13:52):
oh yeah, all the time .
What's this?
What is, what is?
What are you doing here?
What are we doing?
What are we?
Speaker 3 (13:58):
wearing because that does not go together.
And why are you wearing thatlike that?
Speaker 2 (14:02):
like just the other, just the other podcast that we,
we recorded.
You, you mentioned about thefact that I was wearing shorts.
Yes, I don't wear shorts.
Yeah, I really don't.
Unless I'm at the beach orsomething like that, I don't
wear shorts.
And I was just like, okay, wellf you, I just wanted to wear
shorts, leave me alone.
But it was laundry day yes, andyou explained that.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
But at what point do you stop wearing daisy?
Duke your short up your butt,hey I had stretch shorts
underneath.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
No, I know you did but, I'm talking temperature
drops below 100 there you go.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Of course, that coming, I thought I was gonna
say when your skin drops belowyour knees, where your butt is
yeah, it's hot it's been hot outlately, so Dr Domain is
weighing in on this.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
Yeah, and so because he will be the first one to say
why don't you wear somethinglike that?
Or, you know, thong underwear,I'm old.
First of all, yeah.
And it looks like you know I'mtrying to put you know some type
of string around the raisin.
It's not pretty.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Well, that's why I said, especially like in public
pools and stuff, the women whowear the thong bikinis and
things like that, put your buttaway, ma'am.
Yeah, like I understand we'reswimming and things, but there's
children at that eye level thathave to look at that.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
And our butts hang a lot lower than they used to.
Yes, and even if it doesn't,yeah, mine used to be up and
perky, Not anymore.
Okay.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
It's hanging down to the back of my legs.
Even if you're 20 years old andin your prime and you just got
the perfect butt, I don't wantto see it out at the pool.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
So what about?
So there are limits.
There are limits, that's my onelimit is the whole thong
underwear or a thong bikini.
That's pretty subjective,though, right.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
In a public place with children.
I just, I don't.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Is that age appropriate?
I mean if it was a young personwould it make any difference.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
If it was a guy, I would still have the same
feeling.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
So what about the folks that board the plane that
look like they just left thecarnival?
You know, they got theirpajamas on and clown pants and
guilty, fuzzy slippers.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Guilty because if I'm on a plane for six hours, I
want to be comfortable.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
What if they're wearing a thong?
If they're only wearing a thong?
Speaker 2 (16:16):
if they're only wearing a thong.
How did they get past tsa?
Speaker 1 (16:19):
well, it's easy.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
I mean, there was nothing to search come on, there
was nothing to search there.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
No, you're not putting your bare butt cheeks on
places where other people sit.
You shouldn't be wearing it toa pool.
If you want to go to the lake,like a private lake access, and
wear your thong bikini, flossyour butt all you want, I don't
care, but please keep it out ofthe public swimming pools.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
What about somebody who, because you see this on tv
a lot now, because there's somany reality?
Speaker 2 (16:50):
shows I don't even watch and all.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
You can't flip a channel without seeing some
reality show where somebody iseither trying to marry somebody
or trying to divorce somebody,or sounds like your algorithm
knows you, I guess because mineare all crime documentaries.
Well, I got those two, yeah,but anyways.
But anyway, the low cleavagestuff, you know, like the really
(17:11):
low cut stuff, and I thinkthere's an age for that.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
I don't know.
I think there's an age for that.
It mirrors.
It mirrors our morality or lackthereof what I think, so think
so.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
Oh yeah, no, absolutely not.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
A lot of these shows are you know?
They were really really tightfitting.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Well, that's for ratings, yeah, but it.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Just it kind of matches the mentality level of
it.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
But you're telling me that Zeke down the road who
weighs 450 pounds and has boobsbigger than me, can go without a
shirt and it's fine.
150 pounds and has boobs biggerthan me can go without a shirt,
and it's fine.
But if I wear a low-cutcleavage shirt because my boobs
sag a little when I'm 60, thenthat's an issue nope, zeke needs
to cover up he needs sometassels he needs to get on a
reality show he needs to get.
(17:58):
Yeah, but no I don't.
I don't think that low-cutthings I mean if your boobs hang
to your knees and you want alow-cut shirt.
God bless your heart, man, gofor it.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
I guess I think it's at that point.
I think it's tacky.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
I think it's wear what you want to wear because in
the end, no, that's not whatyou said, except for the thongs.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
On there are congressions, so you can't wear
whatever you want to wear.
You know what?
Speaker 2 (18:22):
just put the asterisk there and it's stuck there,
Okay so what about men?
Speaker 3 (18:27):
What about men?
Because?
I think at some point men needto stop wearing skinny jeans,
wearing their hats backwards andnot wearing socks with their
little loafers First of all,anybody who doesn't wear socks
with shoes should be taken outand shot.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
I'm sorry, that is the grossest thing.
I don't care if you're wearingboat shoes, dock shoes.
Hey, dudes, I don't care whatthey are, your feet smell bro,
okay, I'm sorry unless it'sslides or flip-flops.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
Put some damn socks on.
I struggle with guys that areolder wearing skinny jeans.
Really, and the short skinnyjeans, you know what what I mean
?
They're shorter.
What do you mean Like?
High waters, yeah, not likecapri pants.
Now she tells me.
She's calling you out bud,because I've seen a lot of this
Like short, skinny jeans, andthen they've got little loafers
(19:19):
on with no socks and their shirtis buttoned down And's like you
know, three buttons down, areyou?
Speaker 2 (19:26):
at the blazing saddle gay bar again, because I'm
telling you you just named likeeight people in there right now
no but no I, I get what you'resaying, but no, I don't have a
problem with that.
I don't have a problem withthat if you want to wear your
hat backwards and you know Ithink if you're over 25, you
don't need to be wearing yourhat backwards I think you need
to grow up.
That's I disagree.
(19:47):
I disagree.
Wear it right if you're over 25for crying out loud your ship
has sailed your ship has.
If you give me a tattooed dadbod guy with the beard and he
turns his hat around backwards,it's over I'm getting married,
dad bod okay no, yeah, and Iwant him to wear a tight shirt
(20:08):
too, oh my gosh, to show thosethose man boobs.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
Show them moves, baby .
I also think that if you'regonna wear a muscle shirt or a
sleeveless shirt, that youshould have muscles, okay, not
just fat arms.
Welcome to the gun show yeah,welcome to the gun show.
That's nothing but fat there,big boy okay you don't like the
bat wings where they flap andthen you could fly or somebody
comes up and you know wants tothreaten you and it's like what
(20:36):
are you?
what are you gonna do?
Chase me because you're like350, 400 pounds.
I'm sorry, I'm not fat.
Shaming, I could care less thatyou're fat.
Okay, I really and truly do.
But don't act like you're allthat.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
Don't act like you're hey, go for it, or anything
like that.
You want to wear the tap outshirts and you've never fought a
day in your life and you'reyou're riding the scooter at the
fair because you can't make itto the big barn.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
Go for it, hey, buddy the only clothing that bothers
me and I'm serious, okay, theonly clothing.
That bothers me is whensomebody wears military stuff
and they've never been in themilitary.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
That bothers me a lot I only agree with that if they
are trying to put themselves outas being in the military.
Like they have the patches,they have the yeah but if you
got somebody wearing camo pants,I mean you can go down and get
him for that yeah, well, no, I'mnot saying that kind of camo.
I'm saying you know, one of yourgrandsons was big into that.
(21:34):
You know he used to wear themilitary pants and the shirt
tucked in and the boots, but henever once made it like he was
in the military.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
I'm okay with that.
It bothers me.
It bothers me just because Idon't want somebody.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
I'm okay with that, because look at all those
pockets, so what's the?
Speaker 1 (21:49):
limit Just camo pants , or is it full on fatigues?
Speaker 3 (21:54):
No, I think that when you start, as Bobby said, when
you start conveying yourself assomeone who has been in the
military, so insignia patches.
So like the trousers are blouseand you have boots on and you
have everything and you kind ofact like you've been.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
Give me a break.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Well, that's like you know, that's like Becky out
here that wears real treehunting camo and she never been
in the forest a day in her life.
I'm offended that she's wearinghunting camo.
She never been in the forest aday in her life.
I'm offended that she's wearinghunting camo you ain't never
shot a deer, you've neverdressed one you.
You step on a stick and catch abug and it's over for you maybe
I'm offended about that.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
It's different, is it different?
Speaker 2 (22:35):
she's posing as a.
She's posing as a deer bunny Idon't know a bush.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
We kind of derailed on this whole thing.
I was kind of looking at shortskirts, low cleavage, you know
that sort of thing.
Hey, go for it.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
I'm all for it.
Man, If you're 88 years old andyou want to pull out the skirt
that you got your husband in in1932, go for it.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
I don't disagree.
I don't disagree with that.
I just don't like Feelbeautiful.
Go for it.
I don't disagree.
I don't disagree with that.
I just don't like Feelbeautiful.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
I mean, if that's what makes you feel beautiful
and not want to take yourselfout of this world every day, if
that's what it takes by God, gofor it.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
So I've seen these women on YouTube and they're
older women, older than me.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Well, that's impossible.
They don't know how to useYouTube.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
Dead science right there.
They're older than me and theyare dressing to the nines.
I mean they are dressing upevery single day.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
They are getting what else do they have to do?
Speaker 3 (23:31):
no, that's not it.
They have things to do.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Come on but I'm saying they're not working.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
If they're not, they got three hours, but their whole
thing was they want to lookbeautiful every day and it's,
you know, to me I.
I think it's kind of a coolthing, yeah, and you know I
dress up or I did anyway therefor a while, um, because I
worked sorry dr domain.
You came in too late I know, Iworked in an energy plant where
(23:59):
I was wearing steel-toed boots,frc clothing, and so I was
running the show.
And when I go somewhere I liketo dress up Because I wasn't
able to be that feminine in thatenvironment and that type of
clothing.
And so when I go somewhere nowI like to dress up, I like to
(24:24):
curl my hair, I like to wearthese different clothes, right,
different shoes, and you know, Ilike the different 433 pairs of
boots that you own those 73pairs of sunglasses I like that
yeah, yeah, anyway.
Um, so you know, these women arewearing these really nice
clothing.
You know, mean, it would beevery day that you would look at
(24:45):
and you'd go.
That's not everyday clothing.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
But how cool is that.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
Yeah, you know rather than wearing sweatpants.
And if you're wearingsweatpants every day, I really
don't care.
Yeah, but I just think manthink of how good they feel
about themselves.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
I kind of wish that To look beautiful.
Yeah, I wish I think of howgood they feel about themselves.
I kind of wish that.
Yeah, I wish I could do that.
I wish that I did my makeup.
I wish I knew how to do makeupfirst of all, that doesn't look
like a halloween gore scene, butI wish that I knew how to do my
makeup every day.
I wish the murder happened overhere look, I can do effects
makeup with the best of them.
Okay, but when it comes, to.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
There's an outline of the body, right?
Speaker 2 (25:21):
yeah, like I can do like slashes through your face,
but I cannot contour worth ashit unless it's black and white
because you've done myhalloween, yeah and I used to
work at a place where I did uhhalloween effects makeup for
quite a while, but you know, Iwish that I had that.
So when I see people that everyday they do their makeup, they
do their hair, I am jealousabout that because I'm like I
(25:44):
want to be like that, but I knowthat I'm not like that.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
So Dr Domain's over here just perplexed because he's
going.
When do you dress up?
I'm not seeing you in anythingother than T-shirts and some
scraggly old.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
He has to live with your 400 pairs of boots.
I'm sure he knows that youdress up.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
No, you dress up.
Yeah, I like to.
I like to and I don't know, yousmell nice too when you do it.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
Aw.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
That's so sweet Anyways.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
Oh my gosh, that is so funny.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
But no, I mean, I'm all for all for it.
Man, if you want to wearwhatever you want to wear, if
you want to go around at 80years old wearing a football
jersey and a pair of bootyshorts I don't care if you're a
guy or a girl go for it.
If that's what make you, makesyou happy, go for it, like the
littlest things.
It's not my business.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
I agree with you and I guess that for me I don't know
about you, but for me that'sprobably all the madness and all
of the paranoia and mania andinstability that we have for
today, bobby.
So we appreciate you joining ushere at the Rabbit Hole Studio
every week.
Be sure to follow us.
(26:58):
We look forward to spendingtime with you.
Please like us and if you havepositive feedback or if there's
a topic that you want to talkabout, drop us in short email.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Drop us lots of topics, lots of them.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
Lots of them.
Yeah, we do need topics.
I mean, we have some but weneed more.
And you know what's funny I'mjust going to say it here real
quick on this outro is that wehave people who kind of approach
us and say, oh, we'd reallylike you to talk about this.
So we do get our ideas from ourlisteners, but you can drop us
a short email atboomerandjenexer at gmailcom.
(27:32):
If you have hate mail, well,you can show that somewhere else
, and you know that we're hereevery week.
So I'm Jane Burt and I'm BobbiJoy and you're stuck with us.
I messed that up.
What happened?
Oh my.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
God, try it again, Try it again.
I'm.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
Jane Burt and I'm Bobbi Joy, and you're stuck with
us.
Peace out Later.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
Welcome everyone to today's show a boomer and a Gen
Xer walking to a bar, coming toyou from the Rabbit Hole studio,
where you, as our listener,will experience some wit and
wisdom, some smart assery and amother and daughter questioning.
Are we even related?
My name is Bobbi Joy and myco-host is my lovely mother,
jane, and for the next littlewhile we're here to entertain
and I think today might, be,interesting.
Is it going to be interesting?
(28:31):
I think so, because you told mewhat we're going to talk about
and I kind of have a feelingthat we'll be kind of on the
opposite sides of the fence onthis one, will we?
I think so, huh.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Yeah, okay, the opposite sides of the fence on
this one, will we?
I think so, huh, yeah, okay.
So, first and foremost, uh,how's your chicken this week?
Speaker 2 (28:48):
he's good what's his name?
Oh well, I think that I'm gonna.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
I'm timmy so lyle, timothy and now timmy, okay okay
so you've got your therapychicken down there.
Hey, whatever happened to ourbook about Brenda and her beaver
?
Speaker 2 (29:07):
It gained a lot of popularity.
It hit the New York Timesbestseller list, did it really?
I don't know if it did, but shedoes actually have an entire
series of Brenda's beaver andwhat he does.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
So there's another book that we talked about, which
was who Will Eat my Clown?
Speaker 2 (29:24):
That book should be banned in.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
like five countries we read out of both of those
books, yeah, and we encouragedpeople to go get these books.
They are kind of characterbooks like cartoon type.
They look like kids books butthey are not.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
No, they are not.
It's kind of like how SausageParty looked like a kids movie
but it was not.
They are not.
It's kind of like how sausageparty looked like a kid's movie
but it was not.
It was not sausage party.
Oh my god people taking theirkids to it, thinking it's a
kid's movie.
I'm like so what gave it away?
The mature rating or the factthat the title is sausage party,
and they're like, we thought itwas a kid's movie.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
It's like wow so there was a a podcast that we
did about laws that we talkedabout here recently, and there
was something that you hadbrought up afterwards that we
kind of want to talk about.
I mean, I just I thought it wasinteresting when you brought it
up, so bring it up again oh,the one that I forgot.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
That I said should be legal in all the states.
Yeah, yeah.
So I believe that if twoconsenting adults would like to
duel with no weapons, it shouldbe legal.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
Ow, there should be no assault charges.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
No, baby, wah wow when you lose, calling the cops,
so you should be able to standout in the front yard and have a
fist fight.
Absolutely no weapons, noweapons, just a fist fight and
whoever is left standing,they're the winner yeah, I mean
if you, if to, if both peopleconsent.
I mean whoever was punched inthe mouth, you know oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
So whoever was left standing was the winner.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Yeah, and nobody went home crying to their mom or dad
or anything like well, no,because a lot of times,
especially in my generation, ifyou go home and say you lost the
fight at school, you got yourass whooped again when you got
home.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
So that's not true, but I'm my generation.
Yes, I will say, as one of yourparents, I did say that you
know, if somebody comes afteryou and they try to take you
down, you give them everythingyou've got.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Yeah, I was always taught don't start it, but you
finish it.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
You finish it Absolutely.
You betcha, you betcha, and Iremember your sister.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
Bless her heart.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
And I'm off topic because this isn't even our
topic today- no, it's not yoursister got into a fight with
somebody at the roller skatingrink and I think she was like 14
years old.
Yeah, I was there and this girlwas really bullying her badly.
I pulled up and I heardsomebody because my window was
down.
Oh my gosh, her mom's here andI remember this girl.
(32:07):
When I got up there she beatthe crap out of my other
daughter.
Yeah, and I go.
What happened?
And she goes?
Well, my daughter, she saidwell, you know, she went to take
her coat off and I go that wasthe time to drop her I mean her
arms are back.
Yeah, you know she's taking hercoat off to beat the crap out of
you and you're standing there.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
And the funny thing was, before you pulled up,
little nine and ten-year-old mehad taken my skate off and was
trying to hit the girl with myroller skate because my sister
was getting her ass whooped.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
She was, and I mean it was interesting.
It was like holy crap.
So you let her take her coatoff and she's got her arms
behind her.
I'd have dropped her to theground right there.
I mean, sorry, folks, Suckerpunch.
Yeah, I would have let her haveit and you know it was all a
done deal by the time I walkedup to that little girl and she
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wasn't little, she was 14 yearsold and I don't give a shit that
she was underage because shewas a bully.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
But right, because she was, she was a bully, yeah,
but anyway, that was back in theday, back in the day back in
the day before laws were laws.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
So our topic today I wanted to talk to you about and
maybe we will disagree isfashion.
And what age are you, or whenis it acceptable and when is it
not acceptable for men and womento wear certain clothing?
So the reason I bring this upis because I am the boomer and I
am in my 60s and I still wear alot of clothes that probably,
(33:34):
uh, might be too young for me.
What do you think?
Speaker 2 (33:36):
I think that you're delusional in that now maybe
some of the cuts and stuff mightbe a little risque for your age
, but the clothes that you wear,I can guarantee you nobody
under 50 knows those clothes.
What I mean?
The style and stuff.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
It's definitely old woman style I wear hip hugger
bell bottoms.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
Bless your heart.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
Is that a bad thing?
I wear t-shirts.
I shop at Marshalls.
I don't shop at Marshalls.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
I know you don't because that's too young for you
.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
So at what point do you know?
Because I see some people andI'll talk about women
specifically, because that'skind of what I look at and more
women look at other women thanthey do men.
Did you know that?
Speaker 2 (34:19):
Yeah, it's judgmental .
Speaker 3 (34:21):
It's very judgmental and it's.
You know, do they look betterthan me?
Do they look younger than me?
Are they wearing clothes that Iwant to have?
So Dr Domain is over here doingsome sign language and we're
not liking it.
Dr Domain, you might want tojust I didn't say anything.
I know you didn't say anything.
There's a reason that womenlook at other women yeah, and
(34:42):
it's because we look to see howthey're, we look to compare, we
do, we look to compare ourselvesto them, but then again.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
I mean like I'm, I'm 100 straight.
I don't know what they callthat anymore I think, they call
it something there's a name forit out of style I guess, um.
But if there is a woman wholooks just fabulous, you know
I'm going to look.
I'm not going to be like, ohbaby, but I'm going to
appreciate the female body andgo man, I wish I could look like
(35:13):
that type of thing.
But you know, something that Ilearned a long time ago,
especially when dealing with myown body issues and things like
that was there are two train ofthoughts that you have.
The first, the very first thingthat you think of when you see
someone, is what you were taught, how you were conditioned.
The second thought that comesto your mind is who you are.
(35:36):
So a lot of people will seethese women and go oh my God,
she's dressed like a slut.
And then the next thought isyou go girl, good for you, I'm
proud of you for wearing slut.
And then the next thought isyou go girl, good for you, I'm
proud of you for wearing that.
Because the first thought ishow you're conditioned, what
you're raised to believe,whether it be with family,
friends, the people you surroundyourself with.
The second thought is who youactually are okay, I'm not sure
(35:58):
I agree with that.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
Um well, you're not a psychologist.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
So no, but I've got more background than you do.
What a waste.
Oh my gosh what a waste.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
So, anyways, that college degree was wasted on my
mom.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
I mean, I think it's a, it's a family thing.
We all kind of waste ourcollege degrees.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
But yeah, let's go for it, okay, so clothing but so
I just I want to say that Idon't agree with that, because
I'm not sure that I was everconditioned as a child.
We were so poor, well you guyswore burlap sacks I mean
literally.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
We were just happy to have clothes.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
You know from the church that would hand them down
to us.
Honest to god, that is thetruth.
So, as an older woman, I dowear, you know, my skirts a
little shorter.
I don't wear long skirts.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
But you're also a smaller woman, You're not.
You don't have a large frame,You're not carrying a bunch of
extra body weight type of thing.
You, you're a.
You're a very slender woman.
So it would be more fitting,socially acceptable.
Let me rephrase that it wouldbe more socially acceptable for
someone your age to wear maybe aslightly shorter skirt than,
(37:06):
let's say, someone who washeavier in your age.
People would look down on it ifit was a shorter skirt.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
Okay, so I get that, but is that then fat shaming
type thing?
Speaker 2 (37:16):
Body shaming it is, it's a body shaming thing, but I
also think that, looking atsomeone and seeing what they're
wearing and going, you shouldn'tbe wearing that look, unless
it's a thong bikini at a publicpool where a bunch of children
are.
I'm not, you know.
Wear what you want.
Wear what makes you happy.
Yeah, you know, but it is.
It's a body shaming thing, it'san age shaming thing, it's a
(37:38):
really it all comes down to ajealousy thing well, you made
the comment that you know, ifyou saw a really attractive
woman, that you would go.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
Yeah, she looks great .
Speaker 2 (37:48):
I would too, absolutely, absolutely not
ashamed to look at another woman, because we do compare
ourselves we do, women, I do Iwould like my hair to look like
that we do or I would like tohave that body shape and I've
worked, I've worked really hardto actually change my mindset
from having like a jealousmindset over what other women
look like to going, wow, shelooks great.
(38:10):
Right, good for her right.
She must have put in a lot ofwork.
You know you can tell,especially people who have
recently lost a lot of weight.
You know they do have that skinissue and things.
I look at them go wow, thatmust have been really hard for
them.
Speaker 3 (38:24):
Yeah, like they must be really proud to be able to
wear a tank top even though theyhave this skin, to have lost
all that weight and feelcomfortable in order to walk out
in it and I have a habit not ahabit, I will say I feel very
comfortable walking up to aperfect stranger and saying, wow
, that dress looks great on you,yeah, or that color looks great
on you, yeah, or that color isbeautiful on you.
(38:46):
As a matter of fact, I went tothe doctor yesterday and a gal
was walking out and she had thecutest shoes on an older lady
yeah, cutest shoes.
And I got past her and I turnedaround and I said, hey, I just
have to tell you those are thecutest shoes.
And she stopped, smiled, toldme about her shoes.
(39:06):
She had had them for whateverand she got them wherever.
And I said well, they sure lookcute on you.
It probably made her day.
Yeah, you know, but I am notafraid to tell somebody, man,
they're beautiful, right, andwe'll be watching Dr Domaine and
I will be watching a show andwe'll I'll go wow, that woman
has a beautiful face.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
Or she has beautiful hair.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
But I mean, but a lot of people think, okay, well,
you can have that beauty, butyou need to, you know, dress age
appropriately, and it's notjust for women, it's guys too,
Right?
You see, you know 50-year-oldguys out here in DCs and hurly
shirts with the backwardsbaseball cap and the chains, and
I know a lot of people havesaid, oh my God, grow up, why
(39:50):
don't you dress for your age?
It's like what do you want themto wear?
Like Peaky Blinders, 1920s, youknow outfits.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
So what do you think about guys who wear button-down
shirts?
Speaker 2 (40:03):
and have the first three buttons unbuttoned Drug
dealer.
Speaker 3 (40:07):
They're part of the drug cartel.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
If need cocaine.
That's where I'm going.
That's all I'm saying.
You look for the three buttons,undone or the top button done
either way, you're guaranteed toscore something.
I look at them and I think 70sporn star, yes well, they gotta
have the stash and the hair andthe gold chain.
Speaker 3 (40:26):
Yeah, yeah, definitely yeah definitely, and
so, yeah, I do think about thattoo, and I probably shouldn't,
but it does bring back memories,I mean as long as it didn't
come out of your mouth.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
Like I said, you know , the worst superhero uh power
to have is to read people'sthoughts, because the things I
think on on an hourly basis thatgoes through my head could
probably get me in guantanamobay at this point now I have.
Speaker 3 (40:51):
You're gonna go to that alligator, alcatraz?
Speaker 2 (40:54):
I am yes yes, you know, they're selling t-shirts.
I might want one.
We may need one.
Speaker 3 (41:00):
Um, so I I will be.
I will say I'm very guiltyabout looking at someone and if
I know them pretty well, I might, and I've done this to you or
to your sister.
Speaker 2 (41:11):
No.
Speaker 3 (41:12):
I have looked at people and waved my hand and
went what's going on here?
What is the deal?
Speaker 2 (41:16):
Oh yeah, all the time .
What's this, what is this, whatis this that we're?
Speaker 3 (41:19):
doing here.
Speaker 1 (41:20):
What are we doing, what are we wearing?
Speaker 3 (41:22):
Because that does not go together.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
And why are you wearing that?
Like that, like just the other,just the other podcast that we,
we recorded you?
You mentioned about the factthat I was wearing shorts yes, I
don't wear shorts.
Yeah, I really don't.
Unless I'm at the beach orsomething like that, I don't
wear shorts.
And I was just like, okay, wellf you, I just wanted to wear
shorts, leave me alone.
But it was laundry day yes, andyou explained that.
Speaker 3 (41:46):
But at what point do you stop wearing daisy?
Speaker 1 (41:49):
duke your short up your butt, hey I had stretch
shorts underneath, no I know youdid, but I'm talking
temperature drops below 100there you go.
Speaker 3 (41:57):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (41:58):
Of course, that coming, I thought he was gonna
say when your skin drops belowyour knees, where your butt is
yeah, it's hot.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
It's been hot, so he was wearing the daisy is
weighing in on this yeah, and sobecause he will be the first
one to say why don't you wearsomething like that?
Speaker 3 (42:16):
or, you know, thong underwear uh, I'm old.
First of all floss yeah, and itlooks like you know I'm trying
to put you know some type ofstring around the raisin, it's
not pretty well.
Speaker 2 (42:29):
That's why I said, especially like in public pools
and stuff, the women who wearthe thong bikinis and things
like that put your butt away,ma'am.
Yeah, like I understand we'reswimming and things, but there's
children at that eye level thathave to look at that and our
butts hang a lot lower than theyused to.
Speaker 3 (42:46):
Yes, yes, and even if it doesn't mine used to be up
and perky, Not anymore okay.
Speaker 2 (42:51):
It's hanging down to the back of my legs.
Even if you're 20 years old andin your prime and you just got
the perfect butt, I don't wantto see it out at the pool.
Speaker 1 (43:00):
So what about?
So there are limits, there arelimits.
Speaker 2 (43:03):
That's my.
One limit is the whole thongunderwear or a thong bikini.
Speaker 1 (43:06):
That's pretty subjective, though, right.
Speaker 2 (43:08):
In a public place with children.
I just, I don't.
Speaker 3 (43:11):
Is that age appropriate?
I mean if it was a young person, would it make any difference.
Speaker 2 (43:17):
If it was a guy, I would still have the same
feeling.
Speaker 1 (43:20):
So what about the folks that board the plane that
look like they just left thecarnival?
Speaker 2 (43:26):
You know, they got their pajamas on and clown pants
and fuzzy slippers Guilty,because if I'm on a plane for
six hours, I want to becomfortable.
Speaker 1 (43:35):
What if they're wearing a thong though I'm part
of the old clown gang If they'reonly wearing a thong.
If they're wearing a thong,yeah If they're only wearing a
thong.
Speaker 2 (43:40):
How did they get past TSA?
Well, it was easy come on,there's nothing to search there.
No, you're not.
You're not putting your barebutt cheeks on places where
other people sit.
You shouldn't be wearing it toa pool.
If you want to go to the lake,like a private lake access, and
wear your thong bikini, flossyour butt all you want, I don't
(44:00):
care, but please keep it out ofthe public swimming pools what
about somebody?
Speaker 3 (44:06):
because you see this on TV a lot now because there's
so many reality shows.
I don't even watch reality andall you can't flip a channel
without seeing some reality showwhere somebody is either trying
to marry somebody or trying todivorce somebody or trying to
get their money.
Speaker 2 (44:22):
Sounds like your algorithm knows you, I guess,
because mine are all crimedocumentaries.
Speaker 3 (44:26):
Well, I got those too yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:28):
But anyways yes, because mine are all crime
documentaries.
Speaker 3 (44:29):
Well, I got those too , yeah, but anyways.
But anyway, the low cleavagestuff, you know, like the really
low cut stuff.
And I think there's an age forthat?
Speaker 1 (44:37):
I gotta be honest.
I think there's an age for that.
It mirrors our morality, orlack thereof.
Speaker 3 (44:44):
What I think.
So, oh yeah, no, absolutely not.
Speaker 2 (44:53):
A lot of these shows, are you know?
Speaker 1 (44:54):
they were really really tight fitting, super
revealing, yeah, but it just itkind of matches the mentality
level of it.
Speaker 2 (44:58):
But you're telling me that Zeke down the road, who
weighs 450 pounds and has boobsbigger than me, can go without a
shirt and it's fine.
Speaker 1 (45:15):
But if I wear a low cut cleavage shirt because my
boobs sag a little when I'm 60,then that's an issue nope zeke
needs to cover up.
He needs some tassels he needsto get on a reality show.
Speaker 2 (45:20):
He needs to get yeah but no I don't.
I don't think that low cutthings.
I mean, if your boobs hang toyour knees and you want a low
cut shirt, god bless your heart,man, go for it.
Speaker 3 (45:31):
I guess I think it's at that point.
I think it's tacky.
Speaker 2 (45:34):
I think it's wear what you want to wear.
Because no?
Speaker 1 (45:38):
no, that's not what you said.
Except for the thongs on thereare conditions, so you can't
wear whatever you want to wear.
Speaker 2 (45:44):
Just put the asterisk there and it just.
It's stuck there, OK so whatabout men?
Speaker 3 (45:49):
Because I think at some point men need to stop
wearing skinny jeans wearingtheir hats backwards and not
wearing socks with their littleloafers.
Speaker 2 (46:01):
First of all, anybody who doesn't wear socks with
shoes should be taken out andshot.
I'm sorry, that is the grossestthing.
I don't care if you're wearingboat shoes, dock shoes.
Hey dudes, I don't care whatthey are, your feet smell, bro.
Okay, I'm sorry, unless it'sslides or flip flops, put some
damn socks on.
Speaker 3 (46:17):
I struggle with guys that are older wearing skinny
jeans and the short skinny jeans.
You know what I mean thatthey're shorter.
What do you mean?
Speaker 2 (46:27):
Like high waters.
Speaker 3 (46:29):
Yeah, not like capri pants.
Speaker 2 (46:30):
Now she tells me she's calling you out bud,
because I've seen a lot of this.
Speaker 3 (46:36):
But like short skinny jeans, and then they've got
little loafers on with no socksand their shirt is buttoned down
and it's like you know, threebuttons down, Are you?
Speaker 2 (46:48):
at the Blazing Saddle gay bar again.
No, because I'm telling you,you just named like eight people
in there right now?
Speaker 1 (46:55):
No, I know.
Speaker 2 (46:55):
No, I get what you're saying, but no, I don't have a
problem with that.
I don't have a problem withthat If you want to wear your
hat backwards and you know wearyour piercings.
Speaker 3 (47:04):
I think if you're over 25, you don't need to be
wearing your hat backwards.
Speaker 2 (47:07):
I think you need to grow up.
No, no, that's.
I disagree.
I disagree.
I wear it right If you're over25, for crying out loud your
ship has sailed.
Speaker 3 (47:15):
Your ship has sailed.
Speaker 2 (47:17):
Look, if you give me a tattooed dad bod guy with the
beard and he turns his hataround backwards, it's over.
Speaker 3 (47:23):
I'm getting married, a dad bod.
Speaker 2 (47:25):
Okay, no, bad bod.
Okay, no, yeah, no, and I wanthim to wear a tight shirt too.
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (47:33):
To show those man boobs.
Show them boobs, baby.
I also think that if you'regoing to wear a muscle shirt or
a sleeveless shirt, that youshould have muscles, okay, not
just fat arms.
Welcome to the gun show, yeah.
Welcome to the gun show, that'sgun show.
That's nothing but fat there,big boy, you know, like the bat
wings where they flap, and thenyou can fly over it.
Or somebody comes up and youknow wants to Threaten you and
(47:57):
it's like what are you going todo?
Chase me, because you're like350, 400 pounds.
I'm sorry, I'm not fat shaming,I could care less that you're
fat.
Okay, I really truly do.
But don't less that you're fat.
I really and truly do.
But don't act like you're allthat.
Don't act like you're.
Speaker 2 (48:12):
Mr Universe, you want to wear the tap out shirts and
you've never fought a day inyour life and you're riding the
scooter At the fair because youcan't make it to the big barn.
Go for it.
Speaker 3 (48:24):
The only clothing that bothers me.
Speaker 2 (48:27):
And I'm serious.
Speaker 3 (48:28):
The only clothing that bothers me and I'm serious.
The only clothing that bothersme is when somebody wears
military stuff and they've neverbeen in the military.
That bothers me a lot.
Speaker 2 (48:35):
I only agree with that if they are trying to put
themselves out as being in themilitary.
Like they have the patches,they have the insignia.
Speaker 1 (48:43):
Trying to be an imposter, yeah.
Speaker 2 (48:45):
But if you got somebody wearing camo pants, I
mean you can go down and getthem.
You can go down and get him forthat yeah, well, no, I'm not
saying that kind of camo.
I'm saying you know, one ofyour grandsons was big into that
.
You know he used to wear themilitary pants and the shirt
tucked in and the boots, but henever once made it like he was
in the military I'm okay withthat, bothers me, it bothers me
(49:06):
just I'm okay with that, becauselook at all those pockets, so
what's?
Speaker 1 (49:09):
the limit Just camo pants, or is it full on fatigues
?
Speaker 3 (49:14):
No, I think that when you start, as Bobby said, when
you start conveying yourself assomeone who has been in the
military, so insignia patches.
Speaker 1 (49:27):
So like the trousers are blouse and you have boots on
.
Speaker 3 (49:30):
You have everything and you kind of act like you've
been.
Speaker 1 (49:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (49:35):
Give me a break, well , that's like Becky out here
that wears real tree huntingcamo and she never been in the
forest a day in her life.
I'm offended that she's wearinghunting camo.
Speaker 1 (49:45):
You ain't never shot a deer, you've never dressed one
.
Speaker 2 (49:49):
You step on a stick and catch a bug and it's over
for you maybe I'm offended aboutthat.
Speaker 1 (49:52):
It's different, is it different?
She's posing as a.
Speaker 3 (49:56):
She's posing as a deer bunny I don't know a bush
bunny we kind of derailed onthis whole thing.
I was kind of looking at shortskirts, low cleavage, you know
that sort of thing, hey go forit, I'm all for it.
Speaker 2 (50:11):
Man, if you're 88 years old and you want to pull
out the, the skirt that you gotyour husband in in 19 you know
32 go for it.
Speaker 3 (50:19):
I, I don't disagree.
I don't disagree with that, Ijust feel beautiful.
I mean, if that one.
Speaker 2 (50:25):
If that's what makes you feel beautiful and not want
to take yourself out of thisworld every day, if that's what
it you feel beautiful and notwant to take yourself out of
this world every day.
If that's what it takes by God,go for it.
Speaker 3 (50:33):
So I've seen these women on YouTube and they're
older women, older than me, noway.
Speaker 2 (50:38):
Well, that's impossible.
They don't know how to useYouTube.
Speaker 3 (50:41):
Dead silence right there.
They're older than me and theyare dressing to the nines.
I mean they are dressing upevery single day.
Speaker 2 (50:49):
They are getting what else do they have to do?
Speaker 3 (50:52):
no, that's not it.
They have things to do.
Speaker 2 (50:54):
Come on but I'm saying they're not working.
Speaker 3 (50:56):
If they're not, they got three hours, but their whole
thing was they want to lookbeautiful every day and it's,
you know, to me I.
I think it's kind of a coolthing, yeah, and I dress up, or
I did anyway there for a while,because I worked-.
Speaker 2 (51:14):
Sorry, Dr Domain, you came in too late.
Speaker 3 (51:16):
I know I worked in an energy plant where I was
wearing steel-toed boots, frcclothing, and so I was running
the show.
And when I go somewhere I liketo dress up, yeah, because I,
you know, I wasn't able to bethat feminine in those kinds of
(51:37):
in the, in that environment, inthat type of clothing, right.
And so when I go somewhere now,I like to dress up, I like to
curl my hair, I like to wearthese different clothes, right,
different shoes, and you know, Ilike the different 433 pairs of
boots that you own, the 73pairs of sunglasses.
I like that, yeah, yeah, anyway.
(51:58):
Um, so you know, these womenare wearing these really nice
clothing.
You know, I mean, it would beevery day that you would look at
and you'd go.
That's not everyday clothing,but how cool is that yeah, you
know rather than sweatpants.
And if you're wearingsweatpants every day, I really
don't care.
Yeah, but I just think manthink of how good they feel
(52:21):
about themselves.
Speaker 2 (52:22):
I kind of wish that.
Yeah, I wish I could do that.
I wish that I did my makeup.
I wish I knew how to do makeup.
First of all, that doesn't looklike a Halloween gore scene,
but I wish that I knew how to domy makeup every day.
Speaker 3 (52:35):
I wish murder happened over here.
Speaker 2 (52:35):
Look, I can do effects makeup with the best of
them, okay, but when it comes tolike outline of the body right
yeah.
Like I can do like slashesthrough your face, but I cannot
contour worth a shit unless it'sblack and white, because you've
(52:56):
done my halloween.
Yeah, and I used to work at aplace where I did, uh, halloween
effects makeup for quite awhile, but you know, I wish that
I had that.
So when I see people that everyday they do their makeup, they
do their hair, I am jealousabout that because I'm like I
want to be like that, but I knowthat I'm not like that so dr
domain's over here justperplexed because he's going
when do you dress up?
Speaker 3 (53:14):
I'm not seeing you in anything other than t-shirts
and some scraggly old.
Speaker 2 (53:20):
He has to live with your 400 pairs of boots.
I'm sure he knows that youdress up.
Speaker 1 (53:24):
No, you dress up, I do, I like to.
Speaker 3 (53:27):
I like to, and I don't know, dress up.
Speaker 1 (53:29):
No, you dress up, yeah, I like to, I like to and
and um.
Speaker 3 (53:30):
You smell nice too when you do it oh that's so
sweet anyways oh my gosh, thatis so funny but no, I mean, I'm
all for it.
Speaker 2 (53:44):
man, if you want to wear whatever you want to wear,
if you want to go around at 80years old wearing a football
jersey and a pair of bootyshorts I don't care if you're a
guy or a girl go for it.
If that's what makes you happy,go for it.
Like the littlest things, it'snot my business.
I agree with you.
Speaker 3 (54:00):
And I guess that for me I don't know about you, but
for me that's probably all themadness and all of the paranoia
and mania and instability thatwe have for today, bobby.
So we appreciate you joining ushere at the Rabbit Hole Studio
every week.
Be sure to follow us.
We look forward to spendingtime with you.
(54:20):
Please like us and if you havepositive feedback or if there's
a topic that you want to talkabout, drop us in short email.
Speaker 2 (54:29):
Drop us lots of topics, lots of them.
Speaker 3 (54:31):
Lots of them.
Yeah, we do need topics.
I mean, we have some but weneed more.
And you know, what's funny I'mjust going to say it here real
quick on this outro is that wehave people who kind of approach
us and say, oh, we'd reallylike you to talk about this.
So we do get our ideas from ourlisteners, but you can drop us
a short email at boomer and genxer at gmailcom.
(54:53):
If you have hate mail, well, um, you can show that, uh,
somewhere else.
And, uh, you know that, um,we're here every week.
So I'm jane burke and I'm bobbyjoy and you're stuck with us.
I messed that up.
Oh my, what happened?
Oh my God, try it again.
Try it again.
I'm Jane Bird and I'm Bobby Joyand you're stuck with us.
Peace out Later.
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