March 4, 2025 • 20 mins
So sorry for the late posting today! You can blame the bonehead Boomer for that one!!!
Join us for an enlightening conversation with Ozzy Bob, a passionate lifelong member of ABATE of Iowa, as we uncover the impactful work of this organization, which stands for A Brotherhood Aimed Towards Education. From promoting motorcycle rights to ensuring rider safety education, ABATE is a driving force in advocating for motorcyclists across the nation. We'll also share a personal story that highlights ABATE's generosity, having provided our own family with a rider education course and a lifetime membership for Jane's grandson.
From memorable antics to the significant contributions the biking community makes through charity and advocacy, this episode celebrates the spirit and resilience of motorcyclists across the nation.
NOTE: Hosts and guest do not represent ABATE of Iowa in any elected or designated roles. This discussion is simply members' views of the organization.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Welcome everyone to today's show.
A Boomer and Gen Xer walk intoa bar, coming to you from not
the rabbit hole studio but therabbit run because we are still
on the road when you, as ourlistener, will experience some
wit and wisdom, some smartassery and a mother and daughter
questioning.
Are we even related?
(00:26):
My name is Jane Burt, my hostis my host, my co-host, co-host
is my daughter, bobbi, and forthe next I don't know 20, 25
minutes we're going to talkabout, bobbi, you have a guest
in the studio today.
Talk to me.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
I do I do.
So we're actually in the RabbitHole studio today, even though
you are still out and about onthe road.
So we have a very special guesttoday, who's a friend of both
of us, that we've known for alittle over a year now, and he's
here to talk about somethingthat I love to talk about and I
(01:07):
know that you love to talk about.
So, yeah, we're going to talkabout something called a bait.
Talk to me about that.
Well, I think that our guesthis name is Bob Clark, but he
goes by Ozzy Bob he should bethe one to let us know what
that's all about.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
I think that's a good idea.
Can you talk to us about whatis ABAIT, what purpose do they
serve and you know what's yourexperience with it?
Speaker 3 (01:37):
All right.
Well, abait of Iowa is.
Abait is an actual acronym, itstands for a brotherhood aimed
towards education and we,basically we're a motorcycle
rights organization andbasically let me read this to
you Okay.
(01:58):
ABA of Iowa is an organizationconsisting of motorcycle
enthusiasts throughout the stateof Iowa.
Our goals and purposes are tokeep motorcyclists, members and
the public informed, to promotesafe riding habits and to
encourage favorable legislationfor motorcyclists.
These are accomplished throughmonthly newsletters, rider
(02:18):
safety education programsdesigned to help prevent fatal
and personal injury crashes.
Our Share the Road program isdesigned to make the public more
aware of motorcycles and theirriders.
We have a two-wheel traumaprogram that helps educate EMTs
and ambulance personnel ofproper procedures when coming
(02:39):
upon a motorcycle crash.
This, along with our lobbyingefforts at the Capitol, which
tomorrow, by the way, is LobbyDay.
A-bait of Iowa Incorporated isa neutral organization that
allows all riders to unite in abrotherhood to safeguard our
rights and still remainindividuals with differing views
.
A-bait of Iowa feels that allmotorcyclists are brothers with
(03:02):
a common interest riding free.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Statement.
That's a great statement.
So A-Bait is not unfamiliar tome.
I was a member of the chapter25 years ago and then we had a
podcast about the shooting inPerry, iowa, where our grandson
my grandson was shot and Abatecame through and was very
(03:31):
generous and provided someeducational programs for him to
learn how to ride his motorcycle, because he wasn't really a
rider at that time he was only15 years old and they came
through and offered him freeeducation and a free course.
Is that correct, bobby?
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Yeah, they paid for his writer education course,
which is a two-day course, andthey also paid for a lifetime
membership to abate for.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Corey, and that's very, very generous, I must say.
So, ozzie, thank you for that.
We really appreciate that andthe generosity that this group
has given us.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Oh, you're very welcome.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
And also I noticed that I was looking at some of
the abate information.
So do you know when it wasactually originated, when it was
founded?
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Because I have the answer.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
I believe Abate was created, I think in 1984.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Well close 1971 it was founded, think in 1984.
Well close 1971 it was founded.
And it was founded by easywriters magazine founder.
The guy who?
Who owned is that correct, easywriter magazine?
He was the one who reallypushed it.
And how many states do youthink that now you represent
iowa or you're you're part ofthe Iowa group?
(05:04):
I shouldn't say you representIowa, but you are part of the
Iowa Abate group, correct?
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Yes, I'm a life member of Abate of Iowa.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Okay, and how many states do you think are
participating in Abate acrossthe US?
Speaker 3 (05:22):
I'd like to say that every state has a chapter of a
bait, but I could be wrong.
There may be a few States thatdo not have a bait.
Um, like, I think Missouri hasa different.
They're like a freedom of theroad riders organization, which
is a lot like ABAIT of Iowa.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Or ABAIT.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Well, Bobbi, what do you think?
How many do you think I?
Speaker 2 (05:50):
believe, is it 48?
.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
You're both pretty close, it's 44.
44.
44 states have an ABAIT chapteror have ABAIT chapters in their
state and so pretty populargroup and you know the way that
we've always, uh, beenaffiliated with this ozzy has
been through a lot of thecharity rides and so you guys,
(06:16):
you guys do a lot for charities,correct?
Speaker 3 (06:21):
uh, yes, we.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
We do an annual toy run um for christmas for the
underprivileged kids of of iowaokay, and so, uh, what happens,
folks, and and we've talkedabout this before, bobby, I know
you and I had mentioned itbefore is, anytime you see a
group of motorcyclists out andyou're, you know, you're having
(06:44):
to wait alongside the roadbecause you got a long group of
motorcyclists coming through.
They aren't doing that just totick you off, they're not just
going through the, you know, wedon't.
You guys don't ask for policeescorts to get these large
groups through just to irritatedrivers.
It's because this large groupof riders and correct me if I'm
(07:06):
wrong here, ozzie, group ofriders, and correct me if I'm
wrong here, ozzy this largegroup of riders is actually
riding each time to collectmoney, because there's a fee
associated with riding on theserides, and so the riders
themselves pay money.
Then they also, out of theirown pockets, contribute money or
, as you had mentioned, um, youguys do the toy run and they can
(07:32):
buy toys right and donate thosefor underprivileged kids.
So what a great group.
I mean, you know, I know youguys can be some hellcats, don't
get me wrong, because I've beenaround all of you and you know
we're bikers and we love ridingour bikes too, and I think
what's really important tounderstand is ABAID is really a
(07:55):
big advocate for biker safety.
We just want to keep everybodysafe on the roads, right.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Yes, road Program that A-Bate of Iowa has managed
to pass a law in the state ofIowa that every student in the
driver's ed program has to bepresented a Share the Road
Program by an A-Bate member.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
And what is that exactly?
What is that Share the RoadProgram?
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Well, it's the the share of the road program this.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
This training is intended to reduce accidents
between motor vehicle driversand motorcyclists okay, and it's
my understanding, looking atsome statistics, that you know
the reason that you guys focusor excuse me, I keep saying you
guys but the reason that thefoundation or the groups focus
(08:50):
so much on safety education andwe're going to be the first ones
to admit this is because humanerror is the majority of the
problems with motorcycleaccidents.
It's typically some type ofhuman error, maybe on the
motorcyclist part, it may be on,you know it's typically some
type of human error, maybe onthe motorcyclist part, it may be
(09:11):
on, you know, another driverthat has hit a motorcyclist.
It isn't really payingattention, and so the more
education that we can put outthere, not only for the riders
but for other drivers, is reallyimperative, wouldn't you say?
Speaker 3 (09:31):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
We have a lot of distracted drivers, especially
nowadays with cell phones and,oh yeah, all the fancy stuff in
people's cars that there's somuch distraction and you know a
motorcyclist is very hard to seesometimes and you're not paying
attention and I know that a lotof times people get mad at us
because, you know, especially onHarley Davidson's, because we
(09:53):
do have some pretty loud pipes.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Loud pipes save lives .
Speaker 1 (09:59):
That's right, I was just.
I was going to say becausedon't get me wrong we put them
on because they're cool and theysound cool, but they are saving
our lives and if we can getanybody's attention, you know, I
know, in defensive driving wewere always taught, you know,
make eye contact, try to makeeye contact.
When you see the other drivercome up to the stop sign, make
(10:20):
sure they see you.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
but anymore, even though they make eye contact,
they're looking right through usoh, I've made eye contact
several times and they havestill pulled out in front of me
yeah and um, bobby, I think youhad that situation with you and
Corey here not very long ago,didn't you?
Speaker 2 (10:39):
yeah, yeah, actually we did where um a car had ran
through.
It was actually funny becauseit was twice in the same ride.
We were just, you know, comingout of town.
We were driving through townand one kid blew right through a
yield sign and then juststopped right in front of us
looking right at us, and we weredown the road about 10 minutes
(11:00):
and another car blew throughanother yield sign in the median
and I mean they'll look rightat you and not see you, and or
they see you and think that theyhave a lot more time, because
the size difference it's hard totell something small like a
motorcycle coming at you, it'skind of hard to judge the
distance.
And you know one way that Iespecially, you know, raise the
(11:23):
kids.
You know how you have the theslug bug game.
Well, we didn't play that.
I always taught the kids to tocount the motorcycles, because
when they got older, by god theyuh they learned that they would
see the motorcycles easier ifthey learned how to count them
instead of the slug bugs yeah,that's a good point it's a
(11:44):
that's a great game to play withyour kids yeah, yeah, it is hey
.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
So, ozzie, help me out here, because years ago I
remember that Abate was reallyalso an advocate for fighting
against restrictions onmotorcycles.
Motorcycling, you know,promoting safety, training, of
course, and supporting charitywork, but also, you know, kind
(12:09):
of taking on the role ofadvocating for the motorcyclists
who you know have so manyrestrictions on them.
Is that correct?
Yeah, yeah, so like Iowa as anexample, iowa is a no helmet law
.
Now a lot of people thinkthat's stupid.
We should have a helmet law.
(12:29):
I'm.
A lot of people think that'sstupid.
We should have a helmet law.
I'm a firm believer that it'sup to you right.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
I mean yes, we like to say that let the rider decide
.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Right.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
You know, let those who ride decide.
Yep, you know we don't advocateagainst riding with helmets, we
just like to have the choice.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Right and and Bobby and I and and Dr Domain and and
Corey, we all wear helmets.
So, um, you know we may be in abig group of bikers, um, you
know some real bad asses and youknow we still wear our helmets,
cause we're pretty bad ass withour helmets on.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Well, I will say, the majority of the time I wear my
helmet.
Of course I advocate that mychildren do not get on a
motorcycle, including myyoungest, without full gear and
a helmet.
But I'm going to be honest whenI'm riding my bobber through
town, if I'm not going on thehighway, I don't always put a
helmet on.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
You don't, bobby, because that's alarming to hear.
I don't, I don't, that's alittle alarming and I might have
to have a sidebar conversationwith you now because of that.
So I wish you to kind of keptthat to yourself.
But now that I know and you'vealways said, oh, I'm 40 years
old, but now that I know andyou've always said, oh, I'm 40
years old, you can't really.
(13:51):
You know the time has run outfor you to come after me now.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Okay, well, you still scare the hell out of me.
So that's, that's off thecharts.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
on that one.
So, um Ozzie, some of the otherthings that you guys do.
You have bike rallies.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
Yeah, the 4th of July weekend every year we have what
we call the Freedom Rally inAlgona, iowa, at what we call
the Freedom Park.
It's owned and ran by A-Bait ofIowa and it's this year will be
the 41st annual Freedom Rally.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
Yeah, so we've been doing it for a long time.
It's a pretty awesome rally.
It's all on private property,we have big bands come.
It's a three-day event, we havevendors.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
So there's some.
You got to admit there's somecrazy stuff that goes down at
those rallies, right.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
Oh yeah, yeah, there's some debauchery going on
.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
That's why it's 18 and older.
Only that's right.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
There may or may not be a lot of sex, drugs and rock
and roll going on.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
There may or may not be, but that's why we have an
age requirement of 18 and older.
So I know that we were talkingearlier.
Dr domain and I were talkingearlier and we want to know
what's the most bizarre, if youcan say it and you can describe
(15:26):
it, what's the most bizarrething you've ever seen at one of
the rallies?
Speaker 3 (15:30):
oh, I don't know if it's the most bizarre, but I was
walking through the beer barnand the beer barn is close to
the main stage and there was ahuge crowd around a big wire
spool.
They like they use big woodenspools that, you know, have wire
(15:51):
on them.
They use those as tablesthroughout the park and they
used those as tables throughoutthe park and there was a female
on top of one of these bigwooden spools.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
I think I'm going to be sorry, I asked this now Okay
go ahead.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
I wanted to see what everybody was crowded around
this big wooden spool looking at, so I kind of made my push my
way through the crowd and I madeit up to the spool to witness a
woman pleasuring herself with avery large dildo oh my gosh
yeah, and, and she was makingeye contact with.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Now I need to know with the dildo, or with who?
With you, with?
Speaker 3 (16:41):
who, uh, she was making eye contact with anybody
that would look at oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
And you asked.
Yeah, I did ask, and you knowit takes all kinds right, I mean
yes you know that's, but so, um, what do you think was the most
horrifying thing that you'veever seen at one of the rallies?
Speaker 3 (17:02):
uh horrifying probably the same thing um, I
don't know if I'd say that I'veever seen anything horrifying,
maybe the weather okay, whichwould have been what last year,
when you last year?
Speaker 1 (17:18):
was bad the whole campground was brought to the
worst.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
That was horrible.
My yeah, my particular campsiteum and wait a minute.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
What's your campsite called?
The land of oz oh man, I'm noteven gonna ask why that's called
the land of oz, but pay noattention to the man behind the
curtain.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
Anyway, it may have something to do with my nickname
, yeah, so so anyway, go ahead.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
I didn't mean to interrupt you.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
Well, we had some, we had quite a bit of rain and, uh
, there is a a pretty good sizeCreek that runs through the, the
, the park, and well, it cameout of its banks and flooded us
all out.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
So yeah, I remember it was really really bad yeah,
and uh, there were a lot ofpeople, man, that hung tough.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
Though those are some pretty rough riders right there
, they hung there were somecrazy people that did not leave
and, uh, they just, they justhung out in the floodwaters yeah
, yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Well, I just want to tell you thank you for joining
us, um, we really do appreciatewhat abate does for the state of
iowa, um, and for all the otherstates for that matter, and the
charities that everybody isinvolved with.
I know that you are on heretalking about ABAIT.
I know you are not arepresentative of ABAIT, but you
(18:41):
are a club member, as am I, andas Bobby, you are also, yep.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
And you know we just I actually am.
I'm actually a club member,Thanks to Ozzy Bob.
Yeah, he paid for my first yearof membership, wow.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
How'd she rank?
I don't know.
I never get any of that stuff.
I never get anything free, butnevertheless it's okay.
But anyway, I just want tothank you for coming on and
talking to us.
We really appreciate it andanything, any words of wisdom
you want to leave us with.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
On on motorcycle safety oh um, just don't ride
faster than your angel can flyoh, that's a, that's a great
phrase right there.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Well, uh, thank you so much.
And, bobby, what do you think?
Speaker 2 (19:32):
I think that that is all the literal insanity that we
have for today.
We do appreciate not only OzzyBob, but everyone joining us
here at the Rabbit Hole Studioand with you at the Rabbit Run
Studio.
Be sure to follow us because welook forward to spending time
(19:52):
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Speaker 1 (20:35):
I'm Bobby joy and I'm jane burt, and you're, and
you're stuck with us.
Peace out later.
Welcome everyone to today's show.
A Boomer and Gen Xer walk intoa bar, coming to you from not
the rabbit hole studio but therabbit run because we are still
on the road when you, as ourlistener, will experience some
wit and wisdom, some smartassery and a mother and daughter
questioning.
Are we even related?
(00:26):
My name is Jane Burt, my hostis my host, my co-host, co-host
is my daughter, bobbi, and forthe next I don't know 20, 25
minutes we're going to talkabout, bobbi, you have a guest
in the studio today.
Talk to me.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
I do I do.
So we're actually in the RabbitHole studio today, even though
you are still out and about onthe road.
So we have a very special guesttoday, who's a friend of both
of us, that we've known for alittle over a year now, and he's
here to talk about somethingthat I love to talk about and I
(01:07):
know that you love to talk about.
So, yeah, we're going to talkabout something called a bait.
Talk to me about that.
Well, I think that our guesthis name is Bob Clark, but he
goes by Ozzy Bob he should bethe one to let us know what
that's all about.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
I think that's a good idea.
Can you talk to us about whatis ABAIT, what purpose do they
serve and you know what's yourexperience with it?
Speaker 3 (01:37):
All right.
Well, abait of Iowa is.
Abait is an actual acronym, itstands for a brotherhood aimed
towards education and we,basically we're a motorcycle
rights organization andbasically let me read this to
you Okay.
(01:58):
ABA of Iowa is an organizationconsisting of motorcycle
enthusiasts throughout the stateof Iowa.
Our goals and purposes are tokeep motorcyclists, members and
the public informed, to promotesafe riding habits and to
encourage favorable legislationfor motorcyclists.
These are accomplished throughmonthly newsletters, rider
(02:18):
safety education programsdesigned to help prevent fatal
and personal injury crashes.
Our Share the Road program isdesigned to make the public more
aware of motorcycles and theirriders.
We have a two-wheel traumaprogram that helps educate EMTs
and ambulance personnel ofproper procedures when coming
(02:39):
upon a motorcycle crash.
This, along with our lobbyingefforts at the Capitol, which
tomorrow, by the way, is LobbyDay.
A-bait of Iowa Incorporated isa neutral organization that
allows all riders to unite in abrotherhood to safeguard our
rights and still remainindividuals with differing views
.
A-bait of Iowa feels that allmotorcyclists are brothers with
(03:02):
a common interest riding free.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Statement.
That's a great statement.
So A-Bait is not unfamiliar tome.
I was a member of the chapter25 years ago and then we had a
podcast about the shooting inPerry, iowa, where our grandson
my grandson was shot and Abatecame through and was very
(03:31):
generous and provided someeducational programs for him to
learn how to ride his motorcycle, because he wasn't really a
rider at that time he was only15 years old and they came
through and offered him freeeducation and a free course.
Is that correct, bobby?
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Yeah, they paid for his writer education course,
which is a two-day course, andthey also paid for a lifetime
membership to abate for.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Corey, and that's very, very generous, I must say.
So, ozzie, thank you for that.
We really appreciate that andthe generosity that this group
has given us.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Oh, you're very welcome.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
And also I noticed that I was looking at some of
the abate information.
So do you know when it wasactually originated, when it was
founded?
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Because I have the answer.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
I believe Abate was created, I think in 1984.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Well close 1971 it was founded, think in 1984.
Well close 1971 it was founded.
And it was founded by easywriters magazine founder.
The guy who?
Who owned is that correct, easywriter magazine?
He was the one who reallypushed it.
And how many states do youthink that now you represent
iowa or you're you're part ofthe Iowa group?
(05:04):
I shouldn't say you representIowa, but you are part of the
Iowa Abate group, correct?
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Yes, I'm a life member of Abate of Iowa.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Okay, and how many states do you think are
participating in Abate acrossthe US?
Speaker 3 (05:22):
I'd like to say that every state has a chapter of a
bait, but I could be wrong.
There may be a few States thatdo not have a bait.
Um, like, I think Missouri hasa different.
They're like a freedom of theroad riders organization, which
is a lot like ABAIT of Iowa.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Or ABAIT.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Well, Bobbi, what do you think?
How many do you think I?
Speaker 2 (05:50):
believe, is it 48?
.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
You're both pretty close, it's 44.
44.
44 states have an ABAIT chapteror have ABAIT chapters in their
state and so pretty populargroup and you know the way that
we've always, uh, beenaffiliated with this ozzy has
been through a lot of thecharity rides and so you guys,
(06:16):
you guys do a lot for charities,correct?
Speaker 3 (06:21):
uh, yes, we.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
We do an annual toy run um for christmas for the
underprivileged kids of of iowaokay, and so, uh, what happens,
folks, and and we've talkedabout this before, bobby, I know
you and I had mentioned itbefore is, anytime you see a
group of motorcyclists out andyou're, you know, you're having
(06:44):
to wait alongside the roadbecause you got a long group of
motorcyclists coming through.
They aren't doing that just totick you off, they're not just
going through the, you know, wedon't.
You guys don't ask for policeescorts to get these large
groups through just to irritatedrivers.
It's because this large groupof riders and correct me if I'm
(07:06):
wrong here, ozzie, group ofriders, and correct me if I'm
wrong here, ozzy this largegroup of riders is actually
riding each time to collectmoney, because there's a fee
associated with riding on theserides, and so the riders
themselves pay money.
Then they also, out of theirown pockets, contribute money or
, as you had mentioned, um, youguys do the toy run and they can
(07:32):
buy toys right and donate thosefor underprivileged kids.
So what a great group.
I mean, you know, I know youguys can be some hellcats, don't
get me wrong, because I've beenaround all of you and you know
we're bikers and we love ridingour bikes too, and I think
what's really important tounderstand is ABAID is really a
(07:55):
big advocate for biker safety.
We just want to keep everybodysafe on the roads, right.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Yes, road Program that A-Bate of Iowa has managed
to pass a law in the state ofIowa that every student in the
driver's ed program has to bepresented a Share the Road
Program by an A-Bate member.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
And what is that exactly?
What is that Share the RoadProgram?
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Well, it's the the share of the road program this.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
This training is intended to reduce accidents
between motor vehicle driversand motorcyclists okay, and it's
my understanding, looking atsome statistics, that you know
the reason that you guys focusor excuse me, I keep saying you
guys but the reason that thefoundation or the groups focus
(08:50):
so much on safety education andwe're going to be the first ones
to admit this is because humanerror is the majority of the
problems with motorcycleaccidents.
It's typically some type ofhuman error, maybe on the
motorcyclist part, it may be on,you know it's typically some
type of human error, maybe onthe motorcyclist part, it may be
(09:11):
on, you know, another driverthat has hit a motorcyclist.
It isn't really payingattention, and so the more
education that we can put outthere, not only for the riders
but for other drivers, is reallyimperative, wouldn't you say?
Speaker 3 (09:31):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
We have a lot of distracted drivers, especially
nowadays with cell phones and,oh yeah, all the fancy stuff in
people's cars that there's somuch distraction and you know a
motorcyclist is very hard to seesometimes and you're not paying
attention and I know that a lotof times people get mad at us
because, you know, especially onHarley Davidson's, because we
(09:53):
do have some pretty loud pipes.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Loud pipes save lives .
Speaker 1 (09:59):
That's right, I was just.
I was going to say becausedon't get me wrong we put them
on because they're cool and theysound cool, but they are saving
our lives and if we can getanybody's attention, you know, I
know, in defensive driving wewere always taught, you know,
make eye contact, try to makeeye contact.
When you see the other drivercome up to the stop sign, make
(10:20):
sure they see you.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
but anymore, even though they make eye contact,
they're looking right through usoh, I've made eye contact
several times and they havestill pulled out in front of me
yeah and um, bobby, I think youhad that situation with you and
Corey here not very long ago,didn't you?
Speaker 2 (10:39):
yeah, yeah, actually we did where um a car had ran
through.
It was actually funny becauseit was twice in the same ride.
We were just, you know, comingout of town.
We were driving through townand one kid blew right through a
yield sign and then juststopped right in front of us
looking right at us, and we weredown the road about 10 minutes
(11:00):
and another car blew throughanother yield sign in the median
and I mean they'll look rightat you and not see you, and or
they see you and think that theyhave a lot more time, because
the size difference it's hard totell something small like a
motorcycle coming at you, it'skind of hard to judge the
distance.
And you know one way that Iespecially, you know, raise the
(11:23):
kids.
You know how you have the theslug bug game.
Well, we didn't play that.
I always taught the kids to tocount the motorcycles, because
when they got older, by god theyuh they learned that they would
see the motorcycles easier ifthey learned how to count them
instead of the slug bugs yeah,that's a good point it's a
(11:44):
that's a great game to play withyour kids yeah, yeah, it is hey
.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
So, ozzie, help me out here, because years ago I
remember that Abate was reallyalso an advocate for fighting
against restrictions onmotorcycles.
Motorcycling, you know,promoting safety, training, of
course, and supporting charitywork, but also, you know, kind
(12:09):
of taking on the role ofadvocating for the motorcyclists
who you know have so manyrestrictions on them.
Is that correct?
Yeah, yeah, so like Iowa as anexample, iowa is a no helmet law
.
Now a lot of people thinkthat's stupid.
We should have a helmet law.
(12:29):
I'm.
A lot of people think that'sstupid.
We should have a helmet law.
I'm a firm believer that it'sup to you right.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
I mean yes, we like to say that let the rider decide
.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Right.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
You know, let those who ride decide.
Yep, you know we don't advocateagainst riding with helmets, we
just like to have the choice.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Right and and Bobby and I and and Dr Domain and and
Corey, we all wear helmets.
So, um, you know we may be in abig group of bikers, um, you
know some real bad asses and youknow we still wear our helmets,
cause we're pretty bad ass withour helmets on.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Well, I will say, the majority of the time I wear my
helmet.
Of course I advocate that mychildren do not get on a
motorcycle, including myyoungest, without full gear and
a helmet.
But I'm going to be honest whenI'm riding my bobber through
town, if I'm not going on thehighway, I don't always put a
helmet on.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
You don't, bobby, because that's alarming to hear.
I don't, I don't, that's alittle alarming and I might have
to have a sidebar conversationwith you now because of that.
So I wish you to kind of keptthat to yourself.
But now that I know and you'vealways said, oh, I'm 40 years
old, but now that I know andyou've always said, oh, I'm 40
years old, you can't really.
(13:51):
You know the time has run outfor you to come after me now.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Okay, well, you still scare the hell out of me.
So that's, that's off thecharts.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
on that one.
So, um Ozzie, some of the otherthings that you guys do.
You have bike rallies.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
Yeah, the 4th of July weekend every year we have what
we call the Freedom Rally inAlgona, iowa, at what we call
the Freedom Park.
It's owned and ran by A-Bait ofIowa and it's this year will be
the 41st annual Freedom Rally.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
Yeah, so we've been doing it for a long time.
It's a pretty awesome rally.
It's all on private property,we have big bands come.
It's a three-day event, we havevendors.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
So there's some.
You got to admit there's somecrazy stuff that goes down at
those rallies, right.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
Oh yeah, yeah, there's some debauchery going on
.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
That's why it's 18 and older.
Only that's right.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
There may or may not be a lot of sex, drugs and rock
and roll going on.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
There may or may not be, but that's why we have an
age requirement of 18 and older.
So I know that we were talkingearlier.
Dr domain and I were talkingearlier and we want to know
what's the most bizarre, if youcan say it and you can describe
(15:26):
it, what's the most bizarrething you've ever seen at one of
the rallies?
Speaker 3 (15:30):
oh, I don't know if it's the most bizarre, but I was
walking through the beer barnand the beer barn is close to
the main stage and there was ahuge crowd around a big wire
spool.
They like they use big woodenspools that, you know, have wire
(15:51):
on them.
They use those as tablesthroughout the park and they
used those as tables throughoutthe park and there was a female
on top of one of these bigwooden spools.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
I think I'm going to be sorry, I asked this now Okay
go ahead.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
I wanted to see what everybody was crowded around
this big wooden spool looking at, so I kind of made my push my
way through the crowd and I madeit up to the spool to witness a
woman pleasuring herself with avery large dildo oh my gosh
yeah, and, and she was makingeye contact with.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Now I need to know with the dildo, or with who?
With you, with?
Speaker 3 (16:41):
who, uh, she was making eye contact with anybody
that would look at oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
And you asked.
Yeah, I did ask, and you knowit takes all kinds right, I mean
yes you know that's, but so, um, what do you think was the most
horrifying thing that you'veever seen at one of the rallies?
Speaker 3 (17:02):
uh horrifying probably the same thing um, I
don't know if I'd say that I'veever seen anything horrifying,
maybe the weather okay, whichwould have been what last year,
when you last year?
Speaker 1 (17:18):
was bad the whole campground was brought to the
worst.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
That was horrible.
My yeah, my particular campsiteum and wait a minute.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
What's your campsite called?
The land of oz oh man, I'm noteven gonna ask why that's called
the land of oz, but pay noattention to the man behind the
curtain.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
Anyway, it may have something to do with my nickname
, yeah, so so anyway, go ahead.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
I didn't mean to interrupt you.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
Well, we had some, we had quite a bit of rain and, uh
, there is a a pretty good sizeCreek that runs through the, the
, the park, and well, it cameout of its banks and flooded us
all out.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
So yeah, I remember it was really really bad yeah,
and uh, there were a lot ofpeople, man, that hung tough.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
Though those are some pretty rough riders right there
, they hung there were somecrazy people that did not leave
and, uh, they just, they justhung out in the floodwaters yeah
, yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Well, I just want to tell you thank you for joining
us, um, we really do appreciatewhat abate does for the state of
iowa, um, and for all the otherstates for that matter, and the
charities that everybody isinvolved with.
I know that you are on heretalking about ABAIT.
I know you are not arepresentative of ABAIT, but you
(18:41):
are a club member, as am I, andas Bobby, you are also, yep.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
And you know we just I actually am.
I'm actually a club member,Thanks to Ozzy Bob.
Yeah, he paid for my first yearof membership, wow.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
How'd she rank?
I don't know.
I never get any of that stuff.
I never get anything free, butnevertheless it's okay.
But anyway, I just want tothank you for coming on and
talking to us.
We really appreciate it andanything, any words of wisdom
you want to leave us with.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
On on motorcycle safety oh um, just don't ride
faster than your angel can flyoh, that's a, that's a great
phrase right there.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Well, uh, thank you so much.
And, bobby, what do you think?
Speaker 2 (19:32):
I think that that is all the literal insanity that we
have for today.
We do appreciate not only OzzyBob, but everyone joining us
here at the Rabbit Hole Studioand with you at the Rabbit Run
Studio.
Be sure to follow us because welook forward to spending time
(19:52):
with you each and every week.
Like us on your favoritepodcast platform If you have any
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talk about, if you just want tosay hi, you know, drop us a
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So that would be great.
And if you have hate mail, wellyou know where you can put that
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So until next week.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
I'm Bobby joy and I'm jane burt, and you're, and
you're stuck with us.
Peace out later.
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