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July 22, 2025 44 mins

Ever wondered what strange hygiene habits people are hiding? Bobbi Joy and her mother Jane pull back the shower curtain on some of humanity's most questionable cleanliness practices in this eye-opening conversation.

The duo dives straight into the shocking confessions people make on social media about their personal hygiene—from those who believe soap "cascading" down their bodies cleans their feet to the surprising number of people who never wash their belly buttons. Their candid mother-daughter banter tackles bathroom controversies you've probably never considered: Is your toothbrush collecting airborne bathroom particles? Should clean towels really be stored in the bathroom? And why are some women still hovering over toilet seats?

The conversation takes a fascinating historical turn as Jane shares her childhood experiences with outhouse living and catalog-page toilet paper, while Bobbi reveals how ancient civilizations managed everything from body odor to birth control. You'll learn why the Farmer's Almanac still has a hole punched in it, what powdered wigs were really covering up, and why medieval Europeans carried flowers (hint: it wasn't just for decoration).

Between fits of laughter and occasional gasps of disgust, the pair debates modern hygiene dilemmas like proper nose hair maintenance, the etiquette of "farmer blows," and whether letting pets sleep in your bed compromises cleanliness. Their warm, unfiltered discussion feels like eavesdropping on a particularly entertaining family dinner conversation—one where no topic is too taboo.

Whether you're secretly questioning your own hygiene practices or just enjoy a good cringe, this episode delivers equal parts education and entertainment. Share your own weird hygiene habits or burning questions by emailing boomerandgenXer@gmail.com—they promise to keep your confessions private, even if they know who you are!

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Bobbi (00:04):
Welcome everyone to today's show.
A boomer and a Gen Xer walkinto a bar, coming to you from
the rabbit hole studio, whereyou, as our listeners, will
experience some wit and wisdom,some smart assery and a mother
and daughter questioning.
Are we even related?
My name is Bobby Joy and myco-host is my mom, jane, and we

(00:24):
are here to entertain you for alittle while.
How you doing, mom?
I'm doing great, bobby.
How are you?
I'm good.

Jane (00:31):
Yeah, I asked you today.
Oh yeah, because sometimes youjust leave me hanging.
Yeah, yeah, so what's newpussycat?
I've asked that before.

Bobbi (00:40):
before I start singing, Before you start singing and
then we're all like no, pleaseno, please yeah.
So what's new?
Well, this episode should becoming out, oh right around the
beginning of august.
So I would say, um, it's beenhot yeah but you know what.

Jane (00:57):
Anybody can go in and look at the library and pick out
whatever they want to listen toright, true, but what I'm saying
when it, when it first getspublished?

Bobbi (01:05):
it's going to be beginning of august.
So I'm sure, like the lastcouple of days here it's it's
hot and sticky and it is here.

Jane (01:14):
It is here for sure.
So, um, hey, so you have apretty good topic that you
wanted to talk about today is, Ido.

Bobbi (01:24):
Yeah, speaking of hot and sticky and gross, let's talk
about some weird or grosshygiene or bathroom habits that
people have.

Jane (01:38):
Oh my gosh, do we really want to tackle that?

Bobbi (01:41):
Well, you know, I'm telling you, I was pretty naive
until things like tiktok andinstagram came along and these
people are on here saying will Ido this?
And I'm like why would you tellanybody that?
Yeah, why, don't you just keepthat to yourself?
Is it that gross?
I mean, some of it is yeah,some of it's really bad.
Wow, are we going to get into?

Jane (02:01):
that I think that we are.
Oh gosh, I hope our listenersare paying close attention, but
what if they have some of thoseweird hygiene habits?

Bobbi (02:09):
Bless their hearts.

Jane (02:12):
Bless your little heart.
Well, maybe they'll write in tous and let us know one way or
another, or maybe they have aweird hygiene habit that we
don't talk about today and we'lladd that to our collection.

Bobbi (02:24):
I mean, if they want to out themselves, I'm all for it.

Jane (02:27):
We keep everything private , though we don't tell anybody
about who submitted anything, soit's okay with us, right?

Bobbi (02:36):
But we know, Be forewarned yes that is true, we
do know.
So what do you think?
What do you think some of thethings that people are finding
out about other people's hygienehabits, you know, on social
media and stuff what do youthink some of those are you mean
like today.

Jane (02:54):
Like today when we talked about doing this topic a while
back, I started looking upancient you know.
Like back in the day, yeah, Imean there was a lot of weird
shit going on back then yeah,and we'll talk about that, but
you're talking about things thatcome up on TikTok now.

Bobbi (03:11):
Yeah, today.

Jane (03:12):
So weird hygiene habits.

Bobbi (03:14):
Like a weird or a gross one that you can see people
admitting to.

Jane (03:18):
They're not like cleaning their bungholes with
toothbrushes or something, arethey?

Bobbi (03:24):
I'm sure somebody is.

Jane (03:28):
I sure hope we didn't give anybody that idea.

Bobbi (03:31):
No.

Jane (03:31):
Well, give me one that I can be grossed out by.

Bobbi (03:34):
So one that actually ran TikTok for a while and I know
has been in a lot of my groupson Facebook, was the fact that a
lot of people found out thatpeople, when they take a shower,
was the fact that a lot ofpeople found out that people,
when they take a shower, theydon't scrub or wash their lower
legs or feet.
They think that the soap justfalls down over it and it's
clean.
That's pretty gross.

(03:54):
That's disturbing to say theleast.

Jane (04:02):
Yeah, because how do you get all that crappy dirt off and
that scaly skin and your feetare so gross.

Bobbi (04:05):
It just kind of captures down people are admitting they
don't wash their lower half oftheir legs or their feet if
they're in the shower, becausethey it cascades down and so
they just think that it like acar wash it just kind of like
who's off.
So is that the same way withtheir butt?
God, god, I hope not.
You keep bringing up this buttthing.

Jane (04:26):
I don't know what your deal is.
I mean, if it's all rolling offand rolling downhill, you kind
of go.
Are they even reaching aroundto clean their?

Bobbi (04:33):
butts.
One thing that came up with itwas another part that people
don't seem to actually clean,and that's their belly button.

Jane (04:42):
Well, I don't clean my belly button.
I mean, what do you do?

Bobbi (04:44):
Well, you have like an Audi, don't you?

Jane (04:47):
No, I have a Nanny, but it's not like it's.
You know, it's not like it's.

Bobbi (04:51):
You don't clean your belly, but you don't stick some
soap in there with your fingerand scrub it out.

Jane (04:56):
What do you want me to do?
Take, like you know, some typeof scrubber brush in there.
I mean there, I mean you canget a baby bottle brush and just
a bowl brush.

Bobbi (05:03):
Okay, look my belly button, for some ungodly reason,
is about the size of a shotglass.
Okay, I don't know why it'slike this, but it has been ever
since I was little, and she'slooking for a partner.

Jane (05:16):
She's looking for a life partner.
No, I'm not for someone and now.
She just told you about herbelly button no, I'm not looking
for anybody.

Bobbi (05:24):
First of all.
Second of all, I have to wash.
You have to wash your bellybutton out.
That is so gross, my body.

Jane (05:30):
I mean it's.
You know it's like I'm washingmy stomach, so doesn't it kind
of get washed?
No, I have to get.

Bobbi (05:38):
You have to reach in there and wash it.
How would it get like a?

Jane (05:41):
headlamp on and stick my head down you're just making it
difficult.

Bobbi (05:45):
Just stick your finger in there and rub it around and
then rinse it.

Jane (05:48):
I mean gross, Okay, well, I guess I'll pay attention to
that next time.
Okay so people don't cleantheir belly buttons?
I didn't know that was a no,you licka.
I think that was on SaturdayNight Live.
No, that was on saturday nightlive no that was the orbits

(06:11):
commercial.
What?
Oh, that's right, you love andlick?
Yeah, because they couldn'tcuss yeah, yeah, that was funny
anyways okay all right, sothere's one.
What, what else?

Bobbi (06:19):
um.
Where do you store your bathtowels?

Jane (06:23):
where do I store them?
Yeah, I have a rack on the wallwhere we roll them up and put
them on the rack in the bathroom.
Yeah, that's a horrible habitor they go underneath the sink
rolled up, and I know you'regonna say anytime somebody farts
or pees, all of that come kindof splashes out.
Those germs splash, splash outand get onto your towels.

Bobbi (06:45):
You're close.
It's between the moisture fromtaking showers and you know some
people don't close the lid ontheir toilet, things like that.
Yeah, your bath towels that areclean, that are stored openly
in your bathroom, aren't clean.

Jane (07:02):
Well, no, there's your toothbrush, that's sitting on
top of the counter.

Bobbi (07:04):
Why would you put your toothbrush on top of the counter
?

Jane (07:07):
Why would it be above the?
Because it's plugged in.
Where do you want me to put it?

Bobbi (07:11):
In the bathtub with me.
Have them make a drawer with aplug in it.
I mean, you make everything, ohmy God.
Anyways, no, why would youstore your toothbrush on the
counter?
Oh my, oh my God.
Well, wait a second.

Jane (07:22):
Hold on.
Hold on hold on.
We're finding out all kinds ofthings today, slow down Because,
let's face it, when you go tobuy one of those little cup
holders that's got the littletoothbrush holders on the side,
you know the little slots yeah,why would I buy those?
But I'm saying that that's whatyou've always seen in bathrooms
, right?

Bobbi (07:39):
Or you see it that sits on top of the counter Okay, but
just because something isaesthetically pleasing, like
decorative, doesn't mean thatit's safe or should be used Like
.
I would never put my toothbrushon the counter in the bathroom.
That's like eating a hamsandwich while you're on the

(07:59):
toilet.
Why would you?

Jane (08:00):
do that.
Well, what's wrong?

Bobbi (08:01):
with that.
Oh my God, Listen, I can getbehind a shower beer or a glass
of wine in the tub, but theminute you take a Subway
sandwich into the bathroombecause you've got to sit on the
toilet, we're done.

Jane (08:15):
I don't know who you are Really.
What's the difference betweenthat and taking your phone in?

Bobbi (08:19):
You're wiping your butt.

Jane (08:20):
You're wiping everything, you're touching everything.

Bobbi (08:23):
You flush the toilet, you sit it on the floor.

Jane (08:25):
You're swiping left swiping right.

Bobbi (08:27):
My phone is filthy, I'm not going to say anything about
it.

Jane (08:31):
I don't think people really recognize that, that they
take it in with them and thenthey come walking home, but
you'll put your freakingtoothbrush on the counter.

Bobbi (08:36):
Shh God, I had such high expectations for you in this,
with you being your littlegermaphobe thing.
I had such high expectationsfor you.

Jane (08:49):
First of all, my sink counter is not like right on top
of my toilet.
It doesn't matter, it's in thesame room.
Okay, all right, point taken,point taken.
I hope our listeners havesomething to say about that.
All right.

Bobbi (09:04):
Okay, here's one more.
Here's one more.
Here's one more, okay.
So when you get out of theshower or the bath and you dry
off, do you put onantiperspirant or deodorant
right away?
I do not.
I wait until I'm dry.
Very good, too many people getout and dry off and think that
they're dry, and then they applyan antiperspirant or a

(09:25):
deodorant, not realizing thatit's immediately going to render
it ineffective.
Ineffective why.

Jane (09:31):
Because it dilutes it.

Bobbi (09:33):
Because your skin is still moist and it takes that as
the sweat and then it breaks itdown.

Jane (09:40):
No, I don't.
I wait until my body's kind ofdry, and plus, because back in
the day, deodorant was kind ofwhite and so when you put your
clothes on, it would kind ofcake up on your clothes.
So I don't ever put deodoranton until I'm absolutely dressed,
because then I don't have toworry about it.
You know getting on my clothing, right.

(10:01):
So I'm going to push you backin time, though, though, because
there were some and we'll comeback to you.
Yeah, no, I, yeah, we're good.
So there were some strangehygiene uh practices throughout
history, that's for sure.
Um, and this is funny becausedo you know what before?
Do you know when toilet paperwas actually introduced to the

(10:23):
United States?

Bobbi (10:24):
To the United States.
Yeah, I want to say it was late1800s.

Jane (10:30):
Yeah, it was like late 1800s, first part of 1900s, and
you know what people used beforethat Cloth.

Bobbi (10:38):
Some did use cloth their hand.
The three shells method thethree shells method Newspapers
Okay.

Jane (10:46):
A sock, the three shells method, the three shells method
newspapers, okay, so a sock.
So what's happening right now,folks?
Just so you know is dr domainis over here giving sign
language to bobby and my brainis like pictures and she's like
doing charades or something liketwo words it is toilet paper.

(11:06):
No Stretch pants, stretchArmstrong, louis Armstrong, and
this was really not all thatuncommon.
Corn cobs, so corn cobs wereused.

Bobbi (11:16):
That seems legit.

Jane (11:18):
You know because?
And the corn isn't on it.

Bobbi (11:23):
That would be awkward because you'd skip a whole step
of eating it.
So it kind of acted like ascraper of sorts yeah you know,
to I mean, that makes sense yeah, to wipe your butt.

Jane (11:33):
now I'm going to tell you.
I've said this we were dirtpoor.
When I was really little, welived in a house that had no
bathroom.
We had an outhouse and we livedin town, yeah, and we had an
outhouse and we lived in town,yeah, and we had an outhouse and
we used the catalogs.

Bobbi (11:51):
Oh, like the Sears catalogs.
Yeah, the JCPenney catalogMontgomery Ward In the mail.

Jane (11:55):
You'd get catalogs, you know in newspapers and all kinds
of stuff In the mail and wealways used that and so this is
going to sound funny.
So we would tear the page outand we would rub it together
with our fists to make it softeryeah, I've had to do that.

Bobbi (12:19):
I've had to do that.
Yeah, you rub it, you likecrumple it up and then you rub
it together and it makes it soft.

Jane (12:24):
It makes it softer, yeah, and then you can wipe your butt,
yeah, so listen to this.
So the farmer's almanac waspublished and people would read
it and then use it for theirbutt wiping, and so people would
drill a hole in the farmer'salmanac book to hang it to hang

(12:47):
it in the outhouse farmer'salmanac then decided they'd put
the hole in their forum and eventoday the farmer's almanac has
a hole in it.
Well, even today, some peopleare still wiping this well, you
know, and I mean I'm not listen,I would use it if I had to.

Bobbi (13:06):
You know, I mean listen, there's been many a concerts and
stuff that I've gone to that Iwent to the port-a-potty and
wished I had a farmer's almanac,because there was nothing,
there's, nothing, there'snothing and you kind of go is
this a drip dry station here?

Jane (13:18):
because because I'm gonna be here for a while and or am I
gonna crust over what's gonna goon here?
But uh, yeah, they, we, we hadto use that.
So anyway, there's legit.
Or here's another one leaves.
Yeah, you know you had to useleaves and anybody who's been
out hunting or anybody who'sbeen out in the forest or

(13:40):
camping and you have absolutelynothing.
You're gonna reach for that.
You're not gonna reach for thethree, leaves ones no, well, I
mean, if you're allergic to it.

Bobbi (13:50):
No, I don't have.
I don't have an allergy to it Idon't either, yeah but you know
, or I guess you I'd hate tofind out that I developed one
that way.
Yeah, no kidding.

Jane (13:59):
Your butt would be on fire , wouldn't it?
It'd be like somebody putTabasco sauce on it, and so the
other thing I guess you could dois just kind of scoot across
the lawn like a dog with wormsto wipe your butt.

Dr.Domain (14:15):
Well you heard about the bear that was in the forest.

Bobbi (14:20):
Oh Lord.

Dr.Domain (14:21):
A rabbit comes up to him and the bear says to the
rabbit hey, does this poop stickto your fur?
And the rabbit says, well, no,Grabbed the rabbit and wiped his
ass with him.

Jane (14:40):
I knew this was going to be bad.

Bobbi (14:42):
The second he started oh my God.

Jane (14:44):
That's like a bad dad joke right there.
That's horrible.
That is terrible right there.
What else do you have, Bobby?

Bobbi (14:52):
I thought we were still on the ancient stuff.
Oh, okay, what else we got?

Jane (14:55):
So this is interesting too , so Passoi which is ceramic
fragments.
In ancient Greece and Rome theyused these.
They were like scraping tools.
They were almost like brokenceramic pieces.
Yeah For the oil.
They would scrape theirposteriors clean.

Bobbi (15:16):
I thought, because they cover themselves in oil and then
scrape it off to clean theirskin.

Jane (15:20):
No, but I mean, I guess it would be kind of like using an
ice scraper on your asshole.
Scraper on your butt and so youknow.
But no, it was ceramicfragments and that was in
ancient Greece and Rome.

Bobbi (15:38):
Is.
All you looked up is butt stuff.
No, okay, no, I didn't so.

Jane (15:42):
I have another one.
It wasn't butt stuff, but inmedieval times laundry involved
stomping or beating clothes inthe river and they would
sometimes add wood ash to helpclean it.
But also clothing would bewashed in urine to kill the
bacteria.

(16:03):
They thought, okay, so, yeah.
So in recent times, of course,you know we know better.
Well, we know better, but youknow a lot of people will use
ammonia and things like that toreally kill things off or bleach
or whatever.
But, yeah, they really and trulythought that pee, they would
take the pots chamber pots andthey would empty them, and

(16:26):
sometimes they would even sellit as a detergent.

Bobbi (16:30):
Still probably cleaner than the rivers now.

Jane (16:32):
Well, potentially Well, potentially Possibly.
Another one that I will mentionis you know, in England or in
Europe, you know they used towear wigs.

Bobbi (16:46):
Okay, yeah.

Jane (16:47):
In Europe, anywhere in Europe, so they used to wear the
wigs.

Bobbi (16:52):
And do you know why?
Because they had somethingfunky on their head Lice.

Jane (16:58):
Oh, lice was so bad that they would wear the wigs to help
cover their head, then cover upthe lice, and the wigs were
cleaned with a powder and so,yeah, that was, and they stunk
really, really bad.

Bobbi (17:15):
Could you imagine how itchy that would be, though?
Because, like, first of all, nofans, no air conditioning they
stunk really, really bad.
Could you imagine how itchythat would be, though?

Jane (17:17):
because, like, first of all, no fans, no air
conditioning you got lice onyour freaking head and you put
this heavy wig over it, yeah andyou're sweating you're you got
those, yeah, oh man yeah, andalso, um, the women, you know,
wore the long dresses and thehigh boots, you know, like the
hook and eye boots, and theywore the long dresses and they

(17:40):
would carry flowers in theirhands to smell so that they
didn't have to smell otherpeople.

Bobbi (17:50):
It would help them with the scent and things like that.
I'd just walk around with oneof those plague masks full of
flowers if I was back then.
They did have masks back thentoo, that's what I'm saying.

Jane (17:56):
I mean, I would just shove it full of flowers if I was
back then.

Bobbi (17:57):
They did have masks back then too.
That's what I'm saying, thoughI mean I would just shove it
full of flowers.
There was no way.

Jane (18:00):
Bathing was kind of a ritual that you didn't do all
the time right.
They didn't bathe every singleday.

Bobbi (18:08):
It had to be warm, and then they had to have they
heated up the water and thingslike that.

Jane (18:13):
You had to have chambermaids that came in and
poured your water in and allthat crap.
But they didn't wash theirclothing like we do.
Like, I wear my clothes onceand it's in the washer right, I
don't wear it a couple times.

Bobbi (18:27):
Unless you had like servants, you really didn't have
people washing your stuff everyday, Right, right.
So how do you?

Jane (18:32):
wash it.
You take it down the river, youpound, you take it down the
river, you pound it on somestones.

Bobbi (18:35):
Just hang it over the balcony and let it air out a
little bit.
Yeah, I suppose, yeah, I meanyeah.

Jane (18:40):
Yeah, I suppose you could.
So the other thing that Iwanted to mention is like women
would use different flowers torub on their bodies to help
smell better right, yeah bodiesto help smell better, right, and

(19:02):
some of the um um makeup thatwomen you know, like blush and
lipstick and things like that.
I can't remember what it wasmade of, but it was like toxins
you know everything was backthen.

Bobbi (19:09):
Yeah, and like, here's your lead makeup, be sure to rub
it in.
Yeah, yeah, lead was one ofthem.

Jane (19:15):
Yeah, that's for sure.
And so the other thing.
This is kind of funny.
So when somebody says, oh,excuse me, I have the vapors,
what does that mean to you?

Bobbi (19:26):
The vapors yeah, I have the vapors when they're
lightheaded and stuff.
What do you think it?

Jane (19:31):
Do you know what that means Mr.
Dr Domain.

Dr.Domain (19:34):
They're farting.

Jane (19:34):
They're farting.
I have a bad case of the vapors.
I mean they got gas and they'refarting, and most Southern
people know that because itreally was kind of a saying back
then.

Dr.Domain (19:47):
That's what this saying I always use what.
That's what you say.

Jane (19:51):
Yeah, I've never heard you say anything, you just the only
thing I've ever heard.
You say anything, you just theonly thing I've ever heard you
say is something really loud.
Okay, loud and rumbly, that'swhat I hear you say.
So what else do you have, bobbyum I have.

Bobbi (20:09):
So a lot of people are very self-conscious about like
the hair on their face andthings like that.

Jane (20:15):
But because the older we get, it goes from the top of our
head older, I mean like evensome younger people, you know
they do, they do yeah but um,nose hairs, leave them alone
unless you just get the veryoutsides of them.

Bobbi (20:29):
People are like tomahawking their nose hairs, so
they have like no nose hairs onthe inside of their nose.
There's no health benefit to it.

Jane (20:37):
It's actually detrimental to your health I know that it
does cat, it's like a filter,yeah, and it catches stuff, but
it's pretty gross to see hairsticking out.

Bobbi (20:47):
Well, yeah, I'm saying like you know, trim it a little
bit, but these people are likegoing in full force and taking
all their nose hair out.
They wax the inside of theirnose.
Yeah, I can't.

Jane (20:56):
And have you seen some of them that get stuck in there and
they go to pull them out?

Bobbi (20:59):
and it's like, oh my gosh .

Jane (21:00):
I could never do that.
I would vomit yeah that wouldkill me.
That would be so bad becauseI've had, like my eyebrows waxed
before.
That kills me.
They've pulled my skin off myeyebrows yeah, you can lose
layers of skin.
I know it's, don't do that well,now I microblade, yeah, you
know, going in tattoo it.
But yeah, oh man, that thatstuff hurts.

(21:23):
But talking about you know yourhair going for a woman anyway,
uh, most women know this, thatyou know your hair starts to
thin when you get older on topof your head and then it just
kind of gathers itself up andsays, hey, let's join forces on
her chin and and there are timeswhen we can't see them- not,

(21:46):
unless we're in traffic and thesunlight hits it just right and
you look in the mirror yeah, Ihave a pair of tweezers in my
truck for that.

Bobbi (21:53):
Yeah, that's the perfect light right there.

Jane (21:56):
But there's times when I've gone somewhere, like I've
gotten dressed up to the ninesand I've gone out.
My makeup looked great, my hairlooked great.
I get home that night and I gota hair on my chin that I'm
surprised I didn't put an eyeout with it.
It's like if I'd have gottentoo close with somebody I could

(22:17):
have really impaled them.

Bobbi (22:18):
that's why nobody got close to you that's probably
true.

Jane (22:24):
So what's, what's?

Bobbi (22:24):
another weird or gross one that you can think of um uh
farmers blows oh, snot rockets.
Yeah, so it took me a second.

Jane (22:36):
Yes, not rockets so blowing your nose, and so I'll
give you a little history onthis.
Uh, back in, you know, when thebritish were coming uh their
uniforms, the, they used to usetheir sleeves to wipe their nose
.
And it got to a point wherethey were so disgustingly awful
that they started puttingbuttons on the sides of the

(22:58):
sleeves so that it would kind ofmake them refrain from wiping
their nose on their sleeves.
Well, it didn't, but that waswhat the whole purpose of those
buttons on their sleeves was allabout.
But if you know a farmer or youknow somebody who lives out in
the country, you know what afarmer blow is.
Yep, and that's where they holdone nostril closed and they

(23:19):
just give it a big old blow.
Yep, and it's so gross it is.

Bobbi (23:29):
I will admit I've had to do it a few times, but yeah, no,
it's.
It's horrifying to see, it'shorrifying to witness it's
horrifying to see, it'shorrifying to witness.

Jane (23:38):
Oh gosh.

Bobbi (23:38):
It's horrifying to hear.
You can hear it across thefield.

Jane (23:41):
Because once they do it, what do you wipe the rest of
that off your nose with?

Bobbi (23:46):
Yeah.

Jane (23:46):
Your hand.

Bobbi (23:47):
Yeah, no, not rockets, yeah, and then.

Jane (23:51):
I'm going to eat my lunch with that same hand.
So do you do farmer's blowsthere?
Dr Domain.

Dr.Domain (23:58):
Have you ever done them?
Yeah, if I, if I had to.
Yeah, I didn't have any otheroptions yeah, so it's pretty
gross, though, wouldn't you sayyeah, yeah, I try and make it a
habit of I try and carry akleenex or a handkerchief.
You do.

Jane (24:10):
You're really good at that , and I think that's a
gentleman's practice right there, because he does uh carry a uh
handkerchief and if anybodyneeds it he makes it available.
Of course, he doesn't use itagain after that.

Bobbi (24:23):
I was going to say I'm just going to stick it in my
pocket and off of the nextperson to use it.

Jane (24:28):
This isn't really a bizarre one, but spitting, when
people spit in public likethey'll just and spit.

Dr.Domain (24:38):
Oh, I okay, that's so gross.

Jane (24:40):
When you're sucking, you're trying to cough up phlegm
out of the back of your throat,which is nothing more than snot
.

Bobbi (24:46):
Okay, that's different than just like just spitting
Like I've had, I've had to.
You know, first of all, youdon't spit on sidewalks, you
like that, you go in the grassor whatever.
But you're kind of encompassingwhat I had said in a previous
episode about people blowingtheir nose in public or in front
of other people.
That all rolls into the snotrocket, the you know hawk and a

(25:06):
loogie type of thing.
Yeah, all that rolls togetherfor me.
Don't do any of that crap don'tdo it.

Jane (25:12):
Have you ever been around somebody that, instead of
sniffing like this, going likethat, that with their nose that
they go I don't even know, oh myGod Like that?
That is so gross.
So what are they doing?
They're sucking that snot outof their nose and down their
throat and swallowing it, andit's so, so.

Bobbi (25:37):
You were not prepared for me to be able to do that.
Oh my god, I can't blow my nose.
Is the problem?
Because when I blow my nose Ihave eardrum problems and I can
take myself out with blowing mynose wrong.
But um, yeah, yeah, I get it.

Jane (25:50):
Oh my gosh, when I was working, we we had a manager
that we would be in meetings and, you know, somebody would be
talking and all of a sudden andhe did it with his mouth closed.
So it would be like I came toit, yes, and he would do it all
the time and I'd look over andI'm like I'm looking at him like

(26:13):
seriously, dude.

Bobbi (26:15):
Now disclaimer.
That's not what I sound likewhen I do it.
I just do the type thing yeah,but no, I don't do the whole
type.

Jane (26:26):
No, I can just do it because I know what you're
talking about.
It is so gross.
I mean, it could give you thedry heaves, just.
Now you know how I feel whenpeople blow their nose in front
of me, but you know what's goingdown right, you know they're
sucking that green crap back inthe back of your throat and then
it's gonna be swallowed downinto your stomach, and then
pretty soon.

Bobbi (26:46):
Oh, it's just gross I don't know, I've swallowed worse
than my own, did you know?

Jane (26:50):
back in the day, some people used urine as mouthwash.

Bobbi (26:53):
Yes, and guess what they still do today?
What, oh my god?
There's a whole movement of theurine for mouthwash, eye drops,
things like that, and peopleare getting really sick from it,
like sir duh seriously sick andthey're like I don't know what
I'm doing wrong.
I've been putting urine in myeyes for 10 days now and I can't
see.
It's like can we take thewarning labels off of everything

(27:17):
at this point, because let's,let's let it sort out.
I'm over it.

Jane (27:20):
That is so it's so gross, horribly gross, it's so gross so
what's another one that youhave on your list?

Bobbi (27:28):
uh, my biggest one, and I'm guilty of this no way give
me a minute my blue fuzz what.
What about them?
How gross they are.
They're awful, they're horrible.
Yeah, absolutely.
Or reusing a wash rag, becauseI would prefer to use a clean
wash rag in the shower and thenput it in the laundry as soon as

(27:49):
I'm done with my shower, but tohang up and reuse a wash rag is
just as gross.

Jane (27:55):
I've reused mine.
No, it's gross, but I don't youknow like reusing somebody
else's.
Other people have done that.

Bobbi (28:01):
Like they reuse.
Yes, no, missing you with that.

Jane (28:03):
You could have five people getting in that shower and
somebody else is reusing yourwash rag and you think no you're
going to probably wipe yourface with that and I just wipe
my butt.
Yeah, no reusing.

Bobbi (28:17):
I very have very rarely used it.
I don't even know why it's inmy shower anymore, but I prefer
just a clean wash rag.
Throw it in the laundry whenyou're done with your towel.
Stop hanging your towel up touse three or four times.
By the way, it's not.
It's not good, it's gross.

Jane (28:32):
You know, one thing that I really don't like at all is
like you go into a woman'srestroom and sometimes you have
a.
You have a seat cover andsometimes you don't to use.
Right, you pull out the paperseat covers and sometimes you
have, I've seen them.

Bobbi (28:50):
Yeah, I've seen them.

Jane (28:52):
I know what you're referencing I know I know the
diagram.
But yeah, you know you go to sitdown.
Somebody's peed on that seat.
That's because they're hovering, because they're hovering and
it.
Why are you hovering?
Because you're afraid.
Go to the men's room, exactly.
So I just want to say this realquick because you've said it
I'm a germaphobe, I know it.

(29:12):
You've made a big deal about it.
Yeah, what is it you thinkyou're going to contract off of
that seat?
Because you just set your pursedown on the floor of that
bathroom, or and then you'vetaken it back to your table at
the restaurant and set it on topof the restaurant table, or
you've set it on top of the bar,or your phone is just touched

(29:33):
after you wiped your butt.
What is it you think you'regoing to contract from that
toilet seat?

Bobbi (29:37):
because you're not well, and here's the thing if
nobodyvers, nobody pees on theseat Right, so stop hovering.

Dr.Domain (29:44):
Stop hovering.

Bobbi (29:45):
Stop hovering.
Stop believing your boyfriendthat he caught chlamydia from a
toilet seat.
We all know that doesn't happen, are you sure?
And sit down, are you sure?

Jane (29:54):
Sit down, isn't that?

Dr.Domain (29:55):
the point.

Jane (29:56):
What.
Of the ass gasket you know thatyou have to use, you don't have
to use them, but yeah and andif I don't have, there are times
when I've taken because my momused to do this.

Bobbi (30:06):
Oh god, the toilet paper paper on the seat.

Jane (30:08):
I've done that before.
If I'm, if I'm in a sketchyplace, you know, but I'm not
gonna hover because that'sdisgusting.
Yeah, that's disgusting to meit is.

Bobbi (30:17):
I'm sorry, yeah, and I've almost peed my pants waiting
for mom over there to put toiletpaper down on the seat when I
was little, because it falls inthe toilet four or five times
before you actually get it tosit there.
Oh, they're trying not to peemyself.

Jane (30:32):
Oh my gosh, it's fine, what else?

Bobbi (30:36):
How about, like in a public place, like a gym or a
club or something like that,people who don't use shower
shoes when they get in theshower?

Jane (30:46):
Oh, Dr Domain, do you have any comments about that?

Dr.Domain (30:49):
Yeah, it's for health reasons mainly.

Jane (30:51):
Yeah.

Dr.Domain (30:51):
But, like in the service, you were to wear shower
shoes, otherwise you getathlete's foot and whatever else
is crawling around the floor.

Bobbi (31:03):
Yeah.

Dr.Domain (31:04):
Next day you're on a hike and your feet are about to
fall off.

Jane (31:06):
Yeah.
So I think that's a good one,Bobby, because, yeah, you
absolutely need to have showers.
I mean with my four kids.

Bobbi (31:13):
There's days that I want to wear shower shoes in there
after they've all been in there,because it's like, could I
trust this?
Yeah, yeah, I get it.

Jane (31:22):
So it's like could I trust this?
Yeah, yeah, I get it.
So when you go to wash yourhands, let's say that you've
been like today I playedpickleball.

Bobbi (31:30):
Okay.

Jane (31:31):
And you know, we touch the balls, we touch our paddles, we
touch all kinds of stuff.

Bobbi (31:35):
You touch your butt.

Jane (31:36):
I don't touch my butt.
I'm sure you got a wedgie.

Bobbi (31:39):
Anyways, touch my butt.

Jane (31:40):
I'm sure you got a wedgie anyways, anyway, uh, afterwards
we went out for a drink andsomething to eat.
Well, I immediately go to thebathroom and I wash my hands.
Yeah, do you clean underneathyour fingernails when you wash?

Bobbi (31:55):
your hands every time, yeah, every single time.

Jane (31:57):
Do that so I think they go in and it's like, oh, I'll just
run some water over my handsand I tend to take my.
Sometimes you don't do that.
So I think they go in and it'slike, oh, I'll just run some
water over my hands and I tendto take my.
Sometimes you don't have abrush, so you kind of have to.

Bobbi (32:07):
you know, you scrub them into your palms, scrub them into
your palms or you kind of pickunder them and make sure you get
everything out from underneath.

Jane (32:14):
But there's so many people that you go did you wash your
hands?
And they go, yeah, and you lookat their hands and it's like if
you washed your hands.

Bobbi (32:21):
My favorite is the ones that will turn the water on,
like they're washing their handsfor that 20 seconds.
But they just stand there withthat and it's like why did you
just wash your hands?
It would have taken the sameamount of time.

Jane (32:33):
So how often do you wash your bedding and have your kids
wash their bedding?

Bobbi (32:37):
Me personally.
I wash it about once a week.
My son washes more often.
He's in charge of his ownbedding.
My older daughter washes lessoften uh, I'm not sure why that
is and my youngest I'm not evensure if she has bedding anymore
like her room she's just on ait's it's summer, she's on a.

(32:59):
This is my room kick, but whenI tell her to clean, it on my
room, kick.

Jane (33:02):
But when I tell her to clean it, sleeping on a bale of
hay or what Well?

Bobbi (33:03):
when I tell her to clean her room, she's like, well, this
is your house, you clean it.
And I'm like, but it's yourroom, right, and it's this whole
anyways.

Jane (33:20):
Yeah, she's basically sleeping.

Bobbi (33:21):
The chickens eat the bugs , it's fine, oh my gosh, it's
fine.
But yeah, about once a week iswhen I wash mine.

Jane (33:26):
But then again.

Bobbi (33:27):
I live alone.
I'm the only one that sleeps inmy bed.

Jane (33:29):
You live alone, you live with three kids.

Bobbi (33:32):
Okay, but the kids don't sleep in my bed.
I'm the only one that.
Not the dog, not anything likethat.

Jane (33:39):
Just me.
Oh, that's a good point.

Bobbi (33:42):
I would let the dog sleep in my bed, absolutely.

Jane (33:45):
Oh my gosh.
So let's talk about that.
It builds immunity.
It builds up your immune system.

Dr.Domain (33:54):
You're talking about?
Do you still like rub dirt intoyour wounds?

Bobbi (33:56):
like they used to.
I do, yeah, walk it off or cutit off One of the two.

Jane (34:03):
So here you are talking about washing your hands and
making sure that you don't haveyour towels in your bathroom and
your toothbrush, and let'sinvite the dog who just peed and
his little penis is stilldripping.
Let's let him jump up.

Dr.Domain (34:16):
I don't have a boy dog.

Bobbi (34:20):
Here's the dog who was just outside and peed and she
walked in her own pee in thegrass.

Jane (34:25):
But I said she doesn't sleep in my bed, there's a lot
of people who do let their dogs,yeah, in their beds, and you
know what.
That's a personal choice and,quite frankly, I don't give a
crap what you do in your ownhome.
Uh, my dogs do not get on anyfurniture whatsoever and people
go oh, that's so mean.
My dogs live the life of Riley.

Bobbi (34:43):
Well, and your dogs are also.
They're fine, they're farm dogs.

Jane (34:47):
Yeah, they're farm dogs, but on the other hand, they come
in at night because I can'thave them killing nocturnals
because they come up smellinglike scum.
But if you if you take a showerin the morning after you sleep

(35:10):
in the bed with your animals,wouldn't that just?

Bobbi (35:11):
negate it?
No, because now you got to washyour sheets and your and your
blankets and all everything.
That's what, what?
What if you get out of bed?
Yeah, you sleep with youranimals.
Okay, you get out of the bed,yeah, you take a shower, you put
on clean clothing and then goout the door to work.
Yeah, that's not.
I mean, that kind of negatesthe whole sleeping with your
animals Because now you're cleanIn clean clothes.

Jane (35:25):
I don't even get it.

Dr.Domain (35:26):
But then you're just going to Jump right back into a
dirty bed.
Yeah, you're going to get intoa dirty bed Unless you Okay, but
you're just going to Take ashower every single day.

Jane (35:33):
Watch this, oh my goodness , go ahead, dr Domain.
No, I just think.
Help me out here.

Dr.Domain (35:40):
Yeah, I think these folks?

Bobbi (35:41):
No, I get what you're saying.
Yeah, it's that whole.

Dr.Domain (35:46):
What's that Anthropomorphism, where you give
these animals humancharacteristics and you go like,
oh, my little baby's going tosleep in my bed with me.
It's just a mental disorder.
Yeah, it is.

Jane (35:56):
But it really is, it is.
And what's really funny,because we're going to have a
lot of people who disagree withthis, and that's okay.
This is just my opinion.
I'm not trying to give youpsychological advice, because I
would charge you way more thanwhat I'm charging you now, which
is nothing, but I forgot what Iwas going to say after that.

Bobbi (36:19):
I don't know some kind of psychological babble that you
paid for in college, I'm sure.

Jane (36:25):
You're so mean to me.
Sometimes You're so mean to me.

Bobbi (36:28):
Sometimes I have a whole college degree I don't even use.

Jane (36:32):
I don't want to hear it, all I'm saying is that I do not
let my dogs get on the furniture.
My dogs are not neglected.
They live the life of Riley.
They have a great life, theyhave great beds and their bed
gets washed every week also.

Dr.Domain (36:48):
Do you brush your teeth after, like some people,
let their dogs French them andstuff?

Jane (36:53):
Oh God, why would you do?

Bobbi (36:55):
that.

Jane (36:57):
That's why he wears the milk bone underwear.
Yeah, we talked about thatbefore.
There's a list for people.
I don't French kiss my dogs.
I don't let my dogs lick myface.

Bobbi (37:09):
I don't let my dogs lick my face either.
I don't like her licking myhands either.

Jane (37:12):
And these people go.
Oh, but a dog's mouth iscleaner than a human's.

Bobbi (37:16):
No, it's way dirtier.
That's why dog bites getinfected so easily.

Jane (37:27):
I mean, you need to look it up again, because somebody
sold you a bill of goods on thatone good lord, yeah.
So, um, what about?
Um, we talked about your phone,but what about your headphones
and your earphones, your?

Bobbi (37:35):
earbuds?
Yeah, you don't clean yours.
I don't use earbuds oh, I do,yeah, you do, I use airpods,
yeah yeah, um, and so you cleanthose on a regular basis I have
to.
A lot of the work that I've donein the past and still do, is
very dirty work, and so not onlydo I have to meticulously clean

(37:55):
out my airpods, I also have tometiculously clean out my ear
canals all the time from wearingthem so I am going to talk
about uh smells, because boysare worse than girls when it
comes to raising them to throughpuberty.
Okay, uh, boys didn't evenraise a boy.

Jane (38:17):
But I've been around them because I've got grandsons and
even your own son and I have hadthis discussion, so he's really
clean now.
Yeah, he showers every singleday, yeah, and he wears
deodorant and he wears cologneand stuff, but there was a time
when he didn't.
And what's interesting is, youknow, kids can't smell

(38:38):
themselves.
Obviously, some people can'tsmell themselves.
I don't know how I can smell assoon, I don't know how.

Bobbi (38:42):
Yeah, I can smell as soon as I start going off.

Jane (38:45):
I'm very sensitive when it comes to smells, but just body
odor.
In general, I think boys areworse than girls.

Bobbi (38:53):
I don't.

Jane (38:54):
I mean, if a girl went a long time without bathing or
something, yeah, I guess thatwould be a bad thing, something,
yeah, I guess that would be abad thing.

Bobbi (39:05):
but you know, if you smell your teenager, oh my
goodness, it's incumbent uponyou to give them to some
direction and help them out tonot smell yeah, and wear clean
clothes and there are people outthere that do need more help,
like they need the clinicaldeodorants and things like that
and a lot of times withteenagers, it's hard to tell if
it's going in that direction,because is this just a weird
teenager smell or is thissomething that you know?

(39:28):
They're actually wearingdeodorant and it's not working.
They're wearing antiperspirantit's not working.
Do we need to, you know, levelup and see if there's a bigger
issue?
and I say that because one of mychildren did have that where,
um, it was a huge issue and she,you know, was constantly very
self-conscious about it, until Istarted her on some clinical

(39:50):
deodorant and boom, it was likeproblem solved.

Jane (39:54):
Yeah, so back in the day, back in the day you know what
some of the things were thatthey used for birth control.

Bobbi (40:07):
Sheepskin, what Sheepskin ?
Sheepskin, yeah, like the.
Or was it the insides?
Yeah, sheep's stomach, it wasthe insides, yeah, yeah.

Jane (40:19):
So yeah, their digestive tracts, yeah, they would cut
that out it up, we'd hope.
Tie a knot, tie a knot in theend and use them as
prophylactics.
Yeah and um.
What's also interesting is, um,it's kind of gross.
Oh, oh God.

Bobbi (40:39):
Here we go.

Jane (40:40):
They would shove like rocks up a vagina to try to
block the sperm from going in.

Bobbi (40:47):
Yeah, they would try to build like dams, basically with
all kinds of stuff.
They would use like wool from asheep or they would use, like
you know, like cotton, thingslike that, to try to stop it.

Jane (41:04):
So the ancient Egyptians used, you know, suppositories
that were made of like acacialeaves or lint, even um, trying
to block that.

Bobbi (41:09):
You know, block the sperm , and um, or you know, like an
acacia gum like because they getthat from the, from the plant
itself, um, sometimes moss,because moss is kind of a, an
absorbent could you imaginegetting a pack of hubba bubba
and chewing it up and being likehere put this up there so we
don't have any?

Jane (41:30):
you know, satan spawns running around what are you
using for birth control, hubba?

Bobbi (41:35):
bubba original flavor.

Jane (41:37):
Thank you they also used, you know, some herbal remedies
which obviously didn't work, um,but uh, yeah, it was.
It's kind of weird what theywould shove up there just to try
to stop people from gettingpregnant.
How gross is that?
It's just gross.
So, uh, some other things thatwere used for birth control, you

(41:57):
know back, oh, so, you know,people always thought that
native indians were were reallyfilthy, and a lot of them were
uh, but there were tribes thatuh would bathe multiple times a
day because it was a spiritualritual for them, and so to think
that they were all like thatback in the day and they were

(42:18):
just savages, that's not true.
But egyptians used animal dung,like crocodile or elephant dung
as a barrier, believing that itwas kind of a spermicidal type.

Bobbi (42:29):
It had sperm well, you pack it tight enough.

Jane (42:31):
Yeah, I suppose it's a barrier um africans used plugs
of like grass or cloth, um, youknow, for periods, for menstrual
periods, back in the day theywould use things like leaves,
they would use things like moss,they would use things like just
cloth and paper.
And you know you got to usewhat you got to use right.

Bobbi (42:56):
You kind of went hard on the butt stuff and the
contraceptives today.

Jane (43:00):
I think that's what stinks the most on the butt stuff and
the contraceptives today.

Bobbi (43:03):
I think that's what stinks the most.
And then you yell at me aboutmy freaking joke.

Jane (43:09):
But that's kind of where I'm at is is with that, but you
have anything else?
Bobby?

Bobbi (43:13):
I don't think so, but I would, honestly, I would love
you know if you have a, even aspouse, a partner, a kid,
anything, that you look at themand go.
What the hell are you doingwhen they're standing in the
bathroom doing something?
Hey, let us know, let us know.

Jane (43:28):
Let us know your weird stuff yeah, so we want to hear
your insanity and yourabsurdities, uh so, but we
appreciate you joining us hereat the rabbit hole studio.
Be sure to follow us.
We look forward to spendingtime with you each week.
Please like us, and if you havepositive feedback for us or
there's a topic that you'd likeus to talk about, drop us a

(43:48):
short email at boomer and gen Xor a gmailcom.
Do you have hate mail?

Bobbi (43:54):
Turn it into a contraceptive.

Jane (44:00):
That's right, Bobby.
So until next week.
I'm Jane Bird and I'm Bobby Joyand you're stuck with us.

Bobbi (44:07):
Peace out later.
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