October 21, 2025 • 27 mins
Ever notice the part line creeping wider or the dryer coughing up a tumbleweed of your own hair? Yep, we're talking about this ridiculous topic today! We’re pulling back the curtain on what’s actually happening on your scalp—we unpack the biology in plain English and share the small daily habits that protect the hair you have.
We talk through the biggest culprits behind hair thinning in women and men: age-related hormonal shifts like perimenopause and menopause, chronic stress that can tilt testosterone and trigger facial hair in women (yep, we got issues!), and the cumulative damage of bleach, dye, perms, and heat. Then we take our shots at Dr. Domain and his shiny beaner!
If you’re staring down the mirror wondering what to try next, this conversation gives you a roadmap: realistic expectations, evidence-informed options, and a gentler mindset. We laugh at the myths (spray-on hair, anyone?), share what’s worked and what hasn’t, and make room for acceptance as a valid, stylish path. Subscribe, share with a friend who’s shedding, and tell us: what’s your real-world hair win—or the fix you’d never do again?
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SPEAKER_24 (00:19):
Welcome everybody to today's show.
A boomer in a Gen X are walkingto a bar, coming to you from the
rabbit hole studio, where you,as our listeners, will
experience some wit and wisdom,some smart assery, and a mother
and daughter questioning, are weeven related?
My name's Bobby Joy, and myco-host is my mom Jane.
And uh, we're here to entertainyou today with uh, I think
(00:43):
something that my co-host knowsa lot about.
SPEAKER_40 (00:46):
Thanks.
Thanks for that kind ofintroduction.
unknown (00:50):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_24 (00:50):
Well, like well, we were talking about our topic.
I was like, well, I have noexperience in this, so I'm just
gonna wing it.
SPEAKER_41 (00:56):
I definitely do, but before we get started, um, as
our listeners know, we hit ourone-year mark and we already
celebrated that anniversary.
And it was interesting some ofthe questions that we got
regarding the anniversary show.
And I did have someone ask me,Hey, do you guys really not know
(01:18):
what your topic's gonna be whenyou start the show?
Because I always say, Hey Bobby,what's our topic today?
And we definitely do know whatour topics will be.
We have to research our topics.
Yeah, there's been a couple thathave been off the cuff.
Yeah, but for the most part, Ilike to research, you like to
research.
And so if it's something that'sreally deep, we uh we have to go
(01:40):
find some facts and find somestudies and things like that.
SPEAKER_24 (01:44):
Because I don't want to sound like an idiot talking
out of my ass.
Well, I mean, I want to have,you know, incredible sources.
Look, there is there, and we'renot gonna tell the listeners on
which episodes it was, but therehave been times either I have
not said the topic or mom hasnot said the topic, or we just
really don't know what we'regonna talk about until we
actually sit down behind themics and go, Hey, what are we
(02:06):
talking about?
What are we talking about today?
SPEAKER_41 (02:08):
Yeah, and so sometimes if it's uh you know
just a pretty face value type ofuh topic or surface topic, we we
don't really have to researchanything, we just pull it out of
our butts, like you said.
SPEAKER_24 (02:21):
Well, right, because I mean this show is our
opinions, that's right.
SPEAKER_41 (02:24):
So because we're not professionals or we're not
experts on anything, right?
I mean, we're a professionalasshole, but I'm a doctor of
nothing, so there's that.
And you also uh had somequestions, Bobby, related to our
anniversary show and about ifwe've learned anything about
(02:46):
each other, didn't you?
SPEAKER_24 (02:48):
Yeah, yeah.
And I was kind of like, Did youlisten to all the episodes?
SPEAKER_41 (02:51):
Because yeah, it was so what was the question?
They said what'd they say toyou?
SPEAKER_24 (02:55):
They asked me, did you learn, did both of you learn
something new about each other?
SPEAKER_41 (03:01):
So yeah, well, I definitely did for a moment of
silence for you know 20 minuteson air.
Wow, yeah.
What and did you, Bobby, learnactually about good, yeah, good,
and I think we learned somethingnew about Dr.
Domain and his boat.
SPEAKER_16 (03:21):
Sorry, Dr.
Domain.
Ouch.
Ouch, scratch, better call thewhampulence.
Yeah, but no, we did.
SPEAKER_24 (03:30):
We got we got some really good questions, and I
think that, you know, if we docompile enough questions, if
listeners want to send them in,um, we could actually just do a
show of questions.
SPEAKER_41 (03:40):
Yeah, and people ask, you know, sometimes we just
do not agree, that's for sure.
Yeah, and they've asked, youknow, do you walk away from from
the studio mad at each other?
The answer is no, we're adultsfor crying out loud.
No, and you know, we have aright to our own opinions, and
you know, as long as I don't tryto shove mine in her face and
she doesn't shove hers in myface, um, we're all you can't
(04:04):
anymore because I'm an adult.
Well, I do chase you downsometimes.
I have run down the driveway tothe city.
It's like that TikTok of thatguy chasing the other guy with
the core form.
SPEAKER_24 (04:15):
Yeah, yeah.
So I mean, let's not get itwrong.
Yeah, I am almost 45 years old,but she will still whoop my ass.
SPEAKER_41 (04:22):
Well, it isn't that, it's that, you know, again, we
do not see eye to eye on a lotof things.
And there have been times whenboth of us have bit our tongues
during these episodes when we'rerecording.
It's like, oh, do I want to takeher down?
No, not today.
I won't do it.
But but what the hell is wrongwith you?
(04:44):
Like it's just after the showand we get out of the studio,
it's kind of like, what were youthinking, you bonehead?
SPEAKER_24 (04:51):
And uh, that's kind of the premise of the show, is
the fact that we don't agree.
Now, there are some topics thatwe don't touch on um because we
did make a uh what I guess it'dbe a gentleman's agreement
beforehand that these you knowthree topics were not.
SPEAKER_41 (05:06):
Okay, did something transpire between the last show
and now that you're a gentleman?
Because well, I'm saying, like,you know, that's what it would
be called historically is agentleman's agreement.
We got a handshake agreement,yeah, yeah.
That we we aren't gonna talkabout certain things, and we're
not, you know, and and again, itisn't that we're mother-daughter
or that we're related.
(05:26):
The fact of the matter is, iswe're two intelligent adults,
and you know what, we know howto treat other intelligent
adults.
Um, and you know, uh you justdon't treat people badly because
they've got a different opinionof you, no, absolutely not uh
than you.
So today, when Bobby was sayingthat I have a little bit of
experience in this, it is truebecause several of my friends
(05:51):
and I have been talking aboutthis, and it is why are we
losing our hair?
Me, yeah, you're end of story.
It's yeah, you're not losingyour hair because your hair's
nice and thick like a bitch.
SPEAKER_24 (06:05):
I caused your your hair loss, yeah.
SPEAKER_41 (06:07):
Probably it caused it to go white, that's for sure.
But you know, men uh have agenetic um what do I want to
predisposition?
No, well, maybe uh I was gonnasay retardation of a of uh
genetics.
Now, that's not a bad word.
It's a scientific term.
It is a scientific term.
Men are kind of retarded wherethey okay.
(06:31):
You might want to watch your P'sand Q's down there, uh, where
they do bald, you know, they dohave that issue.
Uh women typically don't havethe issue of balding, although
there is um what is it,alopecia?
SPEAKER_15 (06:47):
I was gonna say I've seen a lot of balding women
though that have that.
SPEAKER_41 (06:51):
Um, but uh we started looking this up because
I do have the issue.
I've always had very thin andfine hair, and and my my
beautician has always said, Oh,your hair's not thin, you've got
plenty of it.
It's just very, very fine.
SPEAKER_24 (07:05):
Yeah, and I think that's what my sister has too is
she has more of your hair thanyeah, you can see through our
hair.
SPEAKER_41 (07:12):
I mean, it's like my hair can be down.
SPEAKER_24 (07:13):
And mine you can barely get a comb through
because it's so thick.
SPEAKER_41 (07:16):
Yeah, so yours look like dreadlocks.
That's that's not the hairthat's not showering.
unknown (07:26):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_41 (07:27):
So anyway, started looking some of this up, and you
know, we all know that there aregenetics and hormones that cause
some of the, you know, arecommon causes, uh, leading to
the gradual shrinking of ourhair follicles, right?
SPEAKER_00 (07:44):
Right.
SPEAKER_41 (07:44):
In men, it causes receding hair lines and bald
spots.
While in women, it it typicallyresults in thinning hair along
the top of the scalp.
What?
What?
SPEAKER_24 (07:54):
Nothing.
In men I call itforward-thinking foreheads.
SPEAKER_41 (08:05):
Dr.
Tomate isn't even cracking asmile on that one.
Okay, well, we're gonna moveright along.
But you know, when I wasyounger, um, I remember my mom
saying this, and so did a lot ofthe women that were her age.
They used to say, if you kidskeep perming your hair, you
girls keep perming your hair, oryou keep dyeing your hair,
(08:28):
you're gonna lose your hair.
SPEAKER_24 (08:29):
You used to tell us that.
If you keep dyeing your hair,you're gonna your hair's gonna
fall out.
SPEAKER_41 (08:33):
Ta-da! And the US judges give us a 9.5 for that
information.
SPEAKER_24 (08:38):
I was gonna say I I don't see it.
SPEAKER_41 (08:39):
I'm you don't see it, but uh, I it does it does
contribute because of the harshchemicals.
And what happens is uh, youknow, the scalp, the skin um
atrophies, just like other partsof our body.
You know, our skin gets real,real thin.
And so it does make adifference.
So if you are not dying yourhair, you're probably in better
(09:02):
shape than some of the rest ofus when you get older, unless
you have really shitty geneticsand then you just I mean you're
screwed from the beginning,right?
SPEAKER_38 (09:09):
Right.
That's absolutely true.
SPEAKER_24 (09:11):
And it's not just genetics.
I mean, you're looking at poornutrition, you're looking at
stress, underlying medicalconditions, not just alopecia,
you know, other things cause it.
Even medications can cause it.
SPEAKER_41 (09:22):
Oh, absolutely.
And so when we were looking thisup, those are all really great
examples of what has an impacton our losing our hair.
SPEAKER_05 (09:33):
Right.
SPEAKER_41 (09:34):
And some of it can have to do, this is kind of
funny that I found out.
If you're in a high stress joband you're a woman and you're in
a high stress job, it is notuncommon for us to grow facial
hair more so than what a regularwoman in a lower stress job
would be.
SPEAKER_24 (09:51):
Are you just you're just making excuses for the for
my beard?
SPEAKER_18 (09:55):
For the black hairs that I can see from here.
SPEAKER_24 (09:59):
No, it's true.
You know, I got asked bysomebody at work why do you keep
tweezers in your truck?
Because that's the best time.
That's light.
Yeah, it's the best line oflike, oh, I can see it now, and
I'm sitting in the parking lotat work just trying to pluck the
one hair.
SPEAKER_41 (10:14):
Because I could have one that's four inches out of my
chin, and Dr.
Domain will say nothing otherthan, you know, why didn't you
tell me?
And they'll say, Well, I thoughtyou were trying to grow a beard.
I don't know.
SPEAKER_24 (10:24):
You know, well, I mean, and in high stress jobs
and things like that, you know,just like, and I don't, I know
you know this, but like when awoman has her time of the month,
the chemical that's released istestosterone.
Right.
So we're releasing more of thattestosterone.
I always think it's funnybecause I'm like, you know, the
whole reason that women act likebitches on their period is
(10:46):
because of the hightestosterone.
I said, so we must be actinglike men for that week.
SPEAKER_41 (10:51):
Well, I'm I'm not gonna broach that one right
there.
SPEAKER_24 (10:55):
But it is, it's it is a surge of testosterone,
especially in you know, veryhigh stress, high, you know,
anxiety environments whereyou're there for eight, nine,
ten, twelve hours a day.
Yeah, and you're you're reallyworking to keep up with
everybody.
So yeah, I I totally believethat facial hair is more pr you
know pronounced with women likethat.
SPEAKER_41 (11:17):
And it's funny that you mentioned, you know, when
somebody's on their menstrualstyle uh cycle that um I
remember when someone, aprevious husband, uh would say,
You're such a mmm when you're onyour period.
And it was like, well, maybeyou're more of an asshole.
(11:39):
I don't, you know, I mean, as itturns out, I was, but but that's
not the point.
But that's not the point.
That's not the point.
SPEAKER_24 (11:47):
Wrong time to bring it up, is what I'm saying.
SPEAKER_41 (11:49):
So normal aging involves, you know, hormonal
changes, obviously.
Of course, like menopause inwomen, right?
SPEAKER_24 (11:56):
And pre-menopause and perimenopause.
Post-menopause, yeah.
Pre-pre-menopause, yeah.
SPEAKER_41 (12:01):
I don't know.
And once you've gone way overthe hill and you can hardly
move, pause.
Um, but uh a slower hair growthcycle does occur.
And again, you know, stress,environmental exposures, you
know, people who are out in thesun a lot can their skin can
thin a lot quicker than someonewho's not.
(12:23):
And as you mentioned, certainhealth conditions can definitely
accelerate hair loss, but thereare some things that you, you
know, can do about it uh or tryto, but if it's genetics, you're
pretty well screwed.
SPEAKER_24 (12:37):
Yeah, you you don't have a prayer.
SPEAKER_41 (12:39):
But what happens in normal in the normal aging
process, as most of us know, iswe go into that slower growth
cycle and our hair folliclesshrink.
And shrinking follicles and finehair, what happens is it
produces shorter and finer hairstrands, and then what happens?
It starts breaking off.
(13:00):
And I find balls of hair aroundthe house all the time.
SPEAKER_24 (13:05):
I mean, I shed like a rottweiler, so I mean I got
hair everywhere.
Do you ever know how I've doneso?
SPEAKER_41 (13:10):
I have to ask you this because your hair's not
long, but not now.
Not now, but you had some longerhair.
Yeah.
And your your daughter's hairwas a little longer, uh, and so
was both of them.
SPEAKER_05 (13:22):
Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_41 (13:23):
And have you ever taken uh the laundry out of the
dryer and had a big old wad ofhair on it?
Yes.
Is that the grossest thing?
SPEAKER_24 (13:32):
It is, and what pisses me off is I cut my hair a
little while ago.
It's been a couple weeks now,and I'm still finding my balls
of long blonde hair on mylaundry when I take them out of
the dryer, and I'm like, this isunnecessary.
SPEAKER_41 (13:47):
Completely unnecessary.
We probably shouldn't be tellingmen this stuff, should we?
I mean, you know, we recognizethat our hair is thinning, but
we don't want you to recognizethat our hair is thinning.
SPEAKER_24 (13:58):
Well, maybe if they get the you know, information
they can they can give us lessstress, exactly.
SPEAKER_41 (14:04):
They can like not bring it up.
SPEAKER_24 (14:05):
Like you have the information, okay, shit's
happening, don't bring it up.
SPEAKER_41 (14:11):
So they say that there's some topical drugs out
there that help.
SPEAKER_20 (14:15):
And are we talking about the hairspray in a can?
SPEAKER_41 (14:18):
Is that what's uh what was that called?
SPEAKER_24 (14:20):
Um, but it was a hairspray, but it was colored.
SPEAKER_46 (14:26):
Why would I know?
SPEAKER_24 (14:27):
Because you're the one with the shining head.
We're not sure if you tried it.
No brogaine.
Oh, no, I was talking about theactual like you shake the can
up.
It's like literal spray paint,and then they would spray their
hair.
SPEAKER_41 (14:40):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_24 (14:41):
And so that the the part in their hair would it's
not even the same person in thebefore and after photos.
SPEAKER_41 (14:47):
It's like really funny.
SPEAKER_24 (14:49):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_41 (14:50):
So, but the FDA has approved like Minoxid Minoxidil,
which is rogain, that's all itis.
Yeah, and that's available.
SPEAKER_24 (14:58):
And that's been around a long time.
SPEAKER_41 (14:59):
I mean, rogueine came out what in late 90s, we
want to say it came out for men,it never came out for women
until like the 70s, late 70s.
Yeah, and so yeah, now it'savailable for women.
SPEAKER_24 (15:11):
That's crazy, it's been around for that long.
SPEAKER_41 (15:12):
There, there's also some oral medications, and let's
face it, there is no proof ofany of this stuff.
So let's all calm down about it.
SPEAKER_24 (15:21):
Um, you can buy just because the FDA approves it
doesn't mean that it works,right?
And that's one thing we will begetting into on another show.
SPEAKER_41 (15:29):
It means that it's not gonna work like acid on your
head, right?
But it does might not kill you.
It might not kill you, it mightnot cause you to grow a third or
fourth arm, might not causecrickets to fall out of your
head.
SPEAKER_24 (15:42):
I mean, we that's that's the only thing that we
can cross our fingers and hopeat this point because yeah,
yeah.
SPEAKER_41 (15:50):
So there's some um lasered light treatments.
So have you heard of those?
SPEAKER_24 (15:56):
So I've heard of them for like other areas of the
body for your face.
SPEAKER_17 (16:00):
For facial, usually a red like facial or like um
hair removal, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_41 (16:08):
Uh-oh.
That was Bobby stifling asneeze.
Um, but yeah, they have laserlight treatment.
SPEAKER_24 (16:16):
And um but like really, I mean, really, is it is
that all it takes to actuallyfix something?
It's not, no, it's not that'slike going in and saying you
don't need liposuction, you justneed to immerse your body in
this freezing temperature for 20minutes every three days, and
it'll well, okay.
There might be a little bit oftruth to that, but come on now.
(16:38):
Laser lights, really.
SPEAKER_41 (16:39):
Also, uh microneedling.
And I've done microneedling onmy face.
I thought that was where theyisn't that where they tattoo.
No, micro needle.
Oh, no, no, no.
That's um, I'll come to that ina minute when I think of what it
is.
Uh blade uh microbladingmicroblading.
But micro needling is where youand I have the machine upstairs
(17:00):
and you buy these littleattachments, and they can have
anywhere from 12 to 36 littleneedles in one little
attachment.
And what it does is it goes inand it pulses on your skin and
goes in and out of your skin,and you set the depth based on
how much you want to see achange in your face.
SPEAKER_24 (17:18):
Okay, so what what I'm hearing so far is tattoo
machine.
Okay, keep going.
Kinda, yeah, kinda literallylike a tattoo machine with a
larger needle count on it.
SPEAKER_41 (17:28):
Yeah, but it doesn't it, you know, they're not
putting dye in your skin oranything.
SPEAKER_24 (17:31):
Well, no, but I'm saying just like the machine,
yeah.
SPEAKER_41 (17:33):
But what it does is it forces the collagen to come
to the surface of your skin.
Now, when you turn 50, 60 yearsold, forget it, folks, because
you don't have that collagen anylonger.
You're not producing it likethese young girls are and these
young guys are.
Yeah, I think I'm not anymore.
But um are you producinganything, Bobby?
SPEAKER_24 (17:53):
I'm not I'm not sure I'm producing anything at this
point.
SPEAKER_41 (17:55):
But that also has been a you know a new
development that people aretrying for their hair.
That's crazy.
Well, I mean, like I said, I'vedone the microneedling on my
face and I've done the laser,the red laser on my face.
But again, I don't have anycollagen left, so I'm kind of
just doing it for recreation.
(18:18):
It's recreational use, officer,I swear.
Because I got nothing else goingon, so you know, I do that.
But um, do you know anybody thatuh like a woman?
We won't say men because menwe're pretty used to men
balding, and that's no big dealto us.
But do you know any women thatyou know have really severe?
SPEAKER_24 (18:40):
I mean, I know it runs in our family on your side
really bad.
SPEAKER_41 (18:44):
Yeah, my mom's hair was really, really thick, and
then of course when she gotolder, it fell off.
SPEAKER_24 (18:50):
And your sisters and stuff was always straight out
once they got older, it wasyeah, yeah, kind of thin.
Yeah, but otherwise, I mean,like I know of a couple of men
that have done like the hairtransplants.
SPEAKER_43 (19:04):
Yeah, did that work?
SPEAKER_24 (19:06):
So I'm gonna tell I'm gonna say no, but I'm not a
doctor.
Okay, maybe it did work, and I'mjust looking at it, you know,
wrong.
Um, but it's weird because youknow, they take the hair
follicles from other parts ofthe body.
Oh, gross, like off their legsor something, like um, yeah.
And I'm just like, is that youknow, of course I gotta crack
(19:27):
jokes because that's what I do.
And I'm like, is it so is thatlike back hair or butt hair?
I just want to know what I'mlooking at at this point because
it yeah.
SPEAKER_37 (19:36):
Oh my gosh.
SPEAKER_24 (19:37):
I guess I just I don't see that I grew up with
the whole it's just hair, yeah,mentality, you know, I dye it,
cut it, bleach it, lose it,whatever.
It's just hair, yeah, you know,and I guess that's me, so I
guess I don't know.
SPEAKER_41 (19:53):
Remember when uh there were a lot of people, a
lot of guys out there who woretoupees.
Did you ever wear a toupee, Dr.
Domain?
Just out of curiosity, did youever wear one?
SPEAKER_44 (20:02):
No.
SPEAKER_41 (20:04):
Why would he need one?
SPEAKER_24 (20:05):
Yeah, his luscious head of hair over here shining
in the light of the studio.
SPEAKER_31 (20:12):
I'm gonna go.
SPEAKER_46 (20:13):
I lost mine in school.
SPEAKER_31 (20:14):
Oh, you did?
SPEAKER_46 (20:15):
Yeah, I I noticed I noticed it after I went on a
field trip at school.
SPEAKER_41 (20:20):
That you lost like that one trip, and all your hair
fell out.
SPEAKER_46 (20:24):
It was we went to this um trying to think of the
name of the place, Chernobyl,and went back.
I can notice it was thinning.
SPEAKER_24 (20:32):
So that was an immediate response.
I grew up with a friend whoactually was balding at 16.
Yeah, he was almost completelybald by the time he was 18.
SPEAKER_41 (20:41):
Yeah, I remember kids in high school that they
were balding, and it's that'scrazy.
SPEAKER_24 (20:46):
But like I said, I always grew up with that
mentality of it's just hair.
Yeah, and I'm not gonna stressabout it because it's just hair.
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_41 (20:54):
There's another, you know, there's other vitamins and
you know, tinctures, vitamins,oils, and things like that.
Castor oil is supposed to be onethat is has a little bit of
evidence behind it.
SPEAKER_24 (21:07):
Castor oil has been used for everything.
Laxidin.
SPEAKER_41 (21:10):
Everything make you poop, make your hair grow.
It's like morphine, but put itin your belly button to make
your digestive system workbetter.
It is kind of crazy, and thenbiotin, of course, is the
vitamin that kind of helps yournails and your hair grow.
But um, so I haven't, you know,I mean, I haven't really I
(21:30):
remember seeing a guy who hadthe hair transplant, and it was
like he had little X's on hishead, yeah, where where they put
the new pairs on stuff.
Yeah, and does that like stayforever or noes?
SPEAKER_24 (21:45):
Allegedly, no.
Allegedly no.
SPEAKER_41 (21:48):
I mean, he had had these things put in a long while
back, and I thought, does thatever seal up?
I mean, what's it going on?
SPEAKER_24 (21:56):
I think the hair is supposed to grow over it so that
it you can't see it, but I'm not100%.
SPEAKER_41 (22:02):
Would you rather be bald or have those little little
pockets on your head?
I don't know.
I'd rather see him bald.
I mean, Dr.
Domain shaves his head, which Ithink is very attractive.
SPEAKER_24 (22:12):
Yeah, it's kind of a fryer tuck thing going on,
though.
If he doesn't shave it, it's awhole fryer tuck thing.
SPEAKER_35 (22:20):
I said Bozo the clown.
SPEAKER_24 (22:26):
At least he didn't get one of those toupees with
the magnets that were installedunder the guy's skin.
SPEAKER_41 (22:32):
Oh, he shut you off.
He shut you off.
Oh my goodness, he shut your micoff.
That's so funny.
Um, no, I like I do like uh abald head.
I think it's uh attractive.
So look at him, he's justgloating now.
But um perms also, you know, wetalked about the chemical damage
(22:55):
um of dyes and stuff becausethey have ammonias and peroxides
and perm solutions, especiallybleaching, yeah.
And perm solutions are soalkaline, uh, they can weaken
the hair on the outer layer andthe cuticles, and uh it just
really makes it dry, brittle,and prone to breakage.
And really, breakage is the mainproblem, and we think that it's
really just our hair thinning,but um scalp irritation.
(23:19):
I think I told everybody this,but when oh Lord.
When we were when we were inGeorgia, we stayed in our
motorhome for like three monthswaiting for our house to get
done.
And uh we have slide outs on it,and every freaking time I was
(23:40):
underneath one of the sides, I'dcome up and just smack my head
so hard, and it was justterrible.
And you know, Dr.
Domain was like, Should I getyou a helmet?
That's my first thought.
You need a helmet to just play.
What happened was I hit it sohard I almost passed out, and it
caused me.
You have no, you have noself-preservation.
(24:02):
I have nothing, I got nothing,there's nothing up there, and
also it gave me vertigo.
And if you've ever had a badcase of vertigo, it's it's
horrible.
It's horrible.
Well, anyway, since that timeperiod, the where I got my and I
kept hitting the same spot,yeah, it's not even different
spots.
It wasn't.
It was like, why can't I justhit a different spot?
SPEAKER_24 (24:25):
You know, you're just you're just the epitome of
doing the same thing over andover again and expecting
different results.
SPEAKER_41 (24:31):
I'm like the poster child for unsafe acts, aren't I?
And to think that I was a safetydirector.
But um, yeah, so anyway, so myscalp now is just it's a mess.
And my dermatologist is like,oh, you must got hit in the
head.
Yeah, like 43 times.
Or dropped as a message.
SPEAKER_30 (24:51):
Yeah, something like that.
SPEAKER_21 (24:53):
Probably both, but yeah, definitely.
SPEAKER_41 (24:55):
Um, other things, obviously, that can cause hair
loss are improper applicationsor chemical burns that can occur
from, like I said before, permsuh that can damage your hair and
potentially lead to scarring onthe scalp.
And you know, the reason I mean,you see a lot of guys shaving
their heads, most of them don'tget a lot of perms.
(25:17):
And most of them don't do a lotof hair coloring if you don't
have any of it.
But um, anyway, the frequency ofdyeing or perming your hair uh
can cause cumulative damage tothe scalp.
Well, that's just common sensethough.
Ultimately, you know, I'm justtelling you, as an old woman
(25:38):
here, if you want to save yourhair, girls, you might want to
uh consider, I don't know, maybenot putting so much chemical on
it at this point.
SPEAKER_24 (25:46):
Maybe not using four cans of AquaNet back in the 80s
to get your hair for glamourshots ready.
SPEAKER_32 (25:52):
Why are you calling me out?
Listen, I'll just call me outlike that.
SPEAKER_24 (25:56):
You don't have a single glamour shot of me.
That's all my scam.
SPEAKER_14 (26:00):
Okay.
You and my sister, it was likeevery other weekend, let's go to
glamour shots.
SPEAKER_09 (26:06):
And then like uh you know, you choke on the hair.
I remember those.
My hair was so big.
Oh my god, it was crazy.
It was crazy.
SPEAKER_41 (26:14):
Yeah.
So you look back on some ofthose 70s pictures and you go,
oh, what happened?
But anyway, I think that'sprobably all I've got for uh the
losing your hair today.
SPEAKER_24 (26:26):
Like uh, we'll probably be looking for a new IT
person since Dr.
Domain.
SPEAKER_19 (26:31):
Since we've insulting him as much as we can.
This is we shit.
This was all you.
You did this.
SPEAKER_41 (26:37):
You're seeing you're bailing on me now.
Well, that's all the insanity wehave for today.
And we really do appreciate youjoining us here, and we
appreciate you going into yeartwo with us at the rabbit hole
studio.
Be sure to follow us.
Uh, we look forward to spendingtime with you each week.
Please like us and share us.
And if you have positivefeedback or you have a topic,
(26:59):
please send it off to us atboomerandgenxer at gmail.com.
Hate mail, we're still notaccepting that.
Uh, as a matter of fact, it'sprobably laying out there
somewhere with my hairswallowing out of my window.
SPEAKER_11 (27:12):
53 cans of aquamet.
SPEAKER_41 (27:14):
Oh my gosh.
So anyway, until next week, I'mJane Bird.
I'm Bobby Joy, and you're stuckwith the peace out later.
SPEAKER_24 (27:33):
Welcome everybody to today's show, a boomerangster.
Welcome to a bummer, coming toyou from the rabbit hole studio,
where you, as our listeners,will experience some wit and
wisdom, some smart assery, and amother and daughter questioning,
are we even related?
My name's Bobby Joy, and myco-host is my mom Jane.
And uh, we're here to entertainyou today with uh, I think
(27:57):
something that my co-host knowsa lot about.
SPEAKER_40 (28:00):
Thanks, thanks for that kind of introduction.
unknown (28:04):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_24 (28:05):
Well, like when we were talking about our topic, I
was like, Well, I have noexperience in this, so I'm just
gonna wing it.
SPEAKER_41 (28:10):
I definitely do, but before we get started, um, as
our listeners know, we hit ourone-year mark and we already
celebrated that anniversary.
And it was interesting some ofthe questions that we got
regarding the anniversary show.
And I did have someone ask me,Hey, do you guys really not know
(28:32):
what your topic's gonna be whenyou start the show?
Because I always say, Hey,Bobby, what's our topic today?
And we definitely do know whatour topics will be.
We have to research our topics.
Yeah, there's been a couple thathave been off the cuff.
Yeah, but for the most part, Ilike to research, you like to
research, and so if it'ssomething that's really deep, we
(28:53):
uh we have to go find some factsand find some studies and things
like that.
SPEAKER_24 (28:58):
Because I don't want to sound like an idiot talking
out of my ass.
SPEAKER_01 (29:00):
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
SPEAKER_24 (29:04):
I mean, I want to have, you know, incredible
sources.
Look, there is there, and we'renot gonna tell the listeners on
which episodes it was, but therehave been times either I have
not said the topic or mom hasnot said the topic, or we just
really don't know what we'regonna talk about until we
actually sit down behind themics and go, Hey, what are we
(29:24):
talking about?
What are we talking about today?
Yeah.
SPEAKER_41 (29:26):
And so sometimes if it's uh, you know, just a pretty
face value type of uh topic orsurface topic, we we don't
really have to researchanything, we just pull it out of
our butts, like you said.
SPEAKER_24 (29:39):
Well, right, because I mean this show is our
opinions, that's right.
SPEAKER_41 (29:42):
So because we're not professionals or we're not
experts on anything, right?
I mean, we're a professionalasshole, but I'm a doctor of
nothing, so there's that.
And you also uh had somequestions, Bobby, related to
our.
anniversary show and about ifwe've learned anything about
(30:04):
each other, didn't you?
SPEAKER_24 (30:06):
Yeah, yeah.
And I was kind of like, did youlisten to all the episodes?
SPEAKER_41 (30:09):
Because yeah, it was so what was the question?
They said what'd they say toyou?
SPEAKER_24 (30:13):
They they asked me, did you learn, did both of you
learn something new about eachother?
SPEAKER_41 (30:18):
So yeah, well I definitely did for a moment of
silence for you know 20 minuteson air.
Wow.
Yeah.
What and did you Bobby learnactually about it?
I did.
Good.
Yeah.
Good.
And I think we learned somethingnew about Dr.
Domain and his boat.
SPEAKER_16 (30:39):
Sorry Dr.
Domain.
Ouch.
Ouch.
Scratch.
Better call the whambulance.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_24 (30:47):
But no, we did.
We got we got some really goodquestions.
And I think that, you know, ifwe do compile enough questions
if listeners want to send themin, um, we could actually just
do a show of questions.
SPEAKER_41 (30:58):
Yeah.
And people ask, you know,sometimes we just do not agree,
that's for sure.
Yeah.
And they've asked, you know, doyou walk away from from the
studio mad at each other?
The answer is no, we're adultsfor crying out loud.
SPEAKER_50 (31:10):
No.
SPEAKER_41 (31:11):
And, you know, we have a right to our own
opinions.
And you know, as long as I don'ttry to shove mine in her face
and she doesn't shove hers in myface, um, we're all well you
can't anymore because I'm anadult.
Well I do chase you downsometimes.
I have run down the driveway.
It's like that TikTok of thatguy chasing the other guy.
You better work through thatagain.
SPEAKER_24 (31:33):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_41 (31:33):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_24 (31:34):
So I mean let's not get it wrong.
Yeah, I am almost 45 years old,but she will still whoop my ass.
SPEAKER_41 (31:40):
Well it isn't that it's that you know again we do
not see eye to eye on a lot ofthings.
And there have been times whenboth of us have bit our tongues
during these episodes when we'rerecording it's like oh do I want
to take her down no not today.
I won't do it.
But but what the hell is wrongwith you?
SPEAKER_24 (32:02):
Like it's just after the show and we get out of the
studio it's kind of like whatwere you thinking you bonehead
and that's kind of the premiseof the show is the fact that we
don't agree.
Now there are some topics thatwe don't touch on um because we
did make a uh what I guess it'dbe a gentleman's agreement
beforehand that these you knowthree topics were not okay did
(32:24):
something transpire between thelast show and now that you're a
gentleman because well I'msaying like you know that's what
it would be called historicallyis a gentleman's agreement.
SPEAKER_41 (32:35):
We got a handshake agreement.
Yeah yeah that we we aren'tgoing to talk about certain
things and we're not you knowand and again it isn't that
we're mother daughter or thatwe're related the fact of the
matter is is we're twointelligent adults and you know
what we know how to treat otherintelligent adults um and you
know uh you just don't treatpeople badly because they've got
(32:56):
a different opinion of you noabsolutely not uh than you so
today when Bobby was saying thatI have a little bit of
experience in this it is truebecause several of my friends
and I have been talking aboutthis and it is why are we losing
our hair?
unknown (33:15):
Me.
SPEAKER_41 (33:16):
Yeah end of story it's yeah you're not losing your
hair because your hair's niceand thick like I caused your
your hair loss yeah probably itcaused it to go white that's for
sure but you know men uh have agenetic um what do I want to
predisposition?
No well maybe uh I was gonna sayretardation of a of uh genetics
(33:41):
now that's not a bad it's ascientific term it is a
scientific term kind of retardedwhere they okay you might want
to watch your P's and Q's downthere uh where they do bald you
know they do have that issue uhwomen typically don't have the
issue of balding although thereis um I don't know what is it
(34:04):
alopecia I've seen a lot ofbalding women though that have
that um but uh we startedlooking this up because I do
have the issue I've always hadvery thin and fine hair and and
my my beautician has always saidoh your hair's not thin you've
got plenty of it it's just veryvery fine yeah and I think
(34:24):
that's what my sister has too isshe has more of your hair than
yeah you can see through ourhair I mean it's like my hair
can be down and mine you canbarely get a comb through
because it's so thick.
Yeah so yours look likedreadlocks that's that's not the
hair that's the not showeringbut yeah so anyway started
(34:47):
looking some of this up and youknow we all know that there are
genetics and hormones that causesome of the you know our common
causes uh leading to the gradualshrinking of our hair follicles
right right in men it causesreceding hairlines and bald
spots while in women it ittypically results in thinning
(35:09):
hair along the top of the scalpwhat what nothing in men I call
it forward thinking foreheadsDr.
Toldmate isn't even cracking asmile on that one.
Okay well we're gonna move rightalong but you know when I was
(35:32):
younger I remember my mom sayingthis and so did a lot of the
women that were her age theyused to say if you kids keep
perming your hair you girls keepperming your hair or you keep
dyeing your hair you're gonnalose your hair you used to tell
us that if you keep dyeing yourhair you're gonna your hair's
gonna fall out.
Ta-da! And the US judges give usa 9.5 for that information I was
(35:55):
gonna say I I I don't see it.
You don't see it but uh I itdoes it does contribute because
of the harsh chemicals and whathappens is uh you know the scalp
the skin atrophies just likeother parts of our body you know
our skin gets real real thin andso it does make a difference so
if you are not dying your hairyou're probably in better shape
(36:18):
than some of the rest of us whenyou get older unless you have
really shitty genetics and thenyou just I mean you're screwed
from the beginning.
SPEAKER_38 (36:25):
Right, right.
That's absolutely true.
SPEAKER_24 (36:26):
And it's not just genetics I mean you're looking
at poor nutrition you're lookingat stress underlying medical
conditions not just alopecia youknow other things cause it even
medications can cause it.
SPEAKER_41 (36:38):
Oh absolutely and so when we were looking this up
those are all really greatexamples of what has an impact
on our losing our hair right andsome of it can have to do this
is kind of funny that I foundout if you're in a high stress
job and you're a woman andyou're in a high stress job it
(36:59):
is not uncommon for us to growfacial hair more so than what a
regular woman in a lower stressjob would be.
SPEAKER_24 (37:06):
Are you just you're just making excuses for the for
my beard for the black hairsthat I can see from here.
No it's true.
You know I got asked by somebodyat work why do you keep tweezers
in your truck?
Because that's the best time.
Yeah it's the best light of likeoh I can see it now and I'm
sitting in the parking lot atwork just trying to pluck the
(37:29):
one hair.
SPEAKER_41 (37:29):
Because I could have one that's four inches out of my
chin and Dr.
SPEAKER_24 (37:32):
Domain will say nothing other than you know why
didn't you tell me and they'llsay well I thought you were
trying to grow a beard I don'tknow you know well I mean and in
high stress jobs and things likethat you know just like and I
don't I know you know this butlike when a woman has her time
of the month the chemical that'sreleased is testosterone.
(37:54):
Right.
So we're releasing more of thattestosterone.
I always think it's funnybecause I'm like you know the
whole reason that women act likebitches on their period is
because of the high testosteroneI said so we must be acting like
men for that week.
SPEAKER_41 (38:06):
Well I'm I'm not gonna broach that one right
there.
SPEAKER_24 (38:11):
But it is it's it it is a a surge of testosterone
especially in you know very highstress high you know anxiety
environments where you're therefor eight nine 10 12 hours a day
yeah and you're you're reallyworking to keep up with
everybody.
So yeah I I totally believe thatfacial hair is more pr you know
pronounced with women like that.
SPEAKER_41 (38:32):
And it's funny that you mentioned you know when
somebody's on their menstrualstyle cycle that um I remember
when someone a previous husbanduh would say you're such a mmm
when you're on your period andit was like well maybe you're
more of an asshole on it.
(38:55):
I don't you know I mean as itturns out I was but but that's
not the point.
But that's not the point.
That's not the point.
Wrong time to bring it up isthat I'm saying so normal aging
involves you know hormonalchanges obviously of course like
menopause in women right andpre-menopause and perimenopause
postmenopause yeahpre-pre-menopause I don't know
(39:17):
and once you've gone way overthe hill and you can hardly move
pause um but uh a slower hairgrowth cycle does occur and
again you know stressenvironmental exposures you know
people who are out in the sun alot can their skin can thin a
lot quicker than someone who'snot and as you mentioned certain
(39:41):
health conditions can definitelyaccelerate hair loss but there
are some things that you youknow can do about it uh or try
to but if it's genetics you'repretty well screwed yeah you you
don't have a prayer but whathappens in normal in the normal
aging process as most of us knowis we go into that slower growth
(40:02):
cycle and our hair folliclesshrink and shrinking follicles
and fine hair what happens is itproduces shorter and finer hair
strands and then what happens itstarts breaking off and I find
balls of hair around the houseall the time.
SPEAKER_24 (40:21):
I mean I shed like a Rottweiler so I mean I got hair
everywhere.
SPEAKER_41 (40:25):
Do you ever know how I so I have to ask you this
because your hair's not long butyou not now but you had some
longer hair yeah and your yourdaughter's hair was a little
longer uh and so was which oneboth of them.
SPEAKER_24 (40:38):
Oh okay and have you ever taken the the laundry out
of the dryer and had a big oldwad of hair on it yes is that
the grossest thing it is andwhat pisses me off is I cut my
hair a little while ago it'sbeen a couple weeks now and I'm
still finding my balls of longblonde hair on my laundry when I
(40:58):
take them out of the dryer andI'm like this is unnecessary.
SPEAKER_41 (41:02):
It's completely unnecessary.
I suppose we we probablyshouldn't be telling men this
stuff should we I mean you knowwe recognize that our hair is
thinning but we don't want youto recognize that our hair is
thinning well maybe if they getthe you know information they
can they can give us less stressexactly they can like not bring
it up like you have theinformation okay shit's
(41:24):
happening don't bring it up sothey say that there's some
topical drugs out there thathelp and are we talking about
the hairspray in a can is thatwhat's what was that called I
don't remember but it was youremember Dr.
SPEAKER_24 (41:38):
Domspray but it was colored why would I know?
Because you're the one with theshining head we're not sure if
you tried it.
No brogaine about the actuallike you shake the can up it's
like literal spray paint andthen they would spray their hair
and so that the the part intheir hair would oh it's and
(42:00):
it's not even the same person inthe before and after photos.
SPEAKER_41 (42:03):
It's like really that's really funny.
Yeah so but the FDA has approvedlike monoxidil which is rogueine
that's all it is and that'savailable and that's been around
a long time.
I mean rogue came out what inlate 90s we want to say it came
out for men it never came outfor women until like the 70s
late 70s.
(42:23):
Yeah and so yeah now it'savailable for women that's crazy
it's been around for that longthere there's also some oral
medications and let's face itthere is no proof of any of this
stuff so let's all calm downabout it.
SPEAKER_24 (42:37):
Um you got just because the FDA approves it
doesn't mean that it works.
SPEAKER_41 (42:42):
Right.
SPEAKER_24 (42:42):
And that's one thing we will be getting into on
another show.
SPEAKER_41 (42:45):
It means that it's not going to work like acid on
your head.
Right.
But it does might not kill you.
It might not kill you it mightnot cause you to grow a third or
fourth arm.
SPEAKER_24 (42:56):
Might not cause crickets to fall out of your
head.
I mean we that's that's the onlything that we can cross our
fingers and hope at this pointbecause yeah.
Yeah so there's some laser lighttreatments so have you heard of
those so I've heard of them forlike other areas of the body for
your face for facial usually ared like facial or like um hair
(43:19):
removal uh that was Bobbystifling a sneeze um but yeah
they have laser light treatmentbut like really I mean really is
it is that all it takes to toactually fix something it's not
no it's not that's like going inand saying you don't need
liposuction you just need toimmerse your body in this
freezing temperature for 20minutes every three days and
(43:43):
it'll well okay there might be alittle bit of truth to that but
come on now.
SPEAKER_41 (43:47):
Laser lights really microneedling and I've done
microneedling on my face.
I thought that was where theyisn't that where they tattoo no
microne oh no no no that's umI'll come to that in a minute
when I think of what it is uhblade um microblading
microblading but microneedlingis where you and I have the
(44:09):
machine upstairs and you buythese little attachments and
they can have anywhere from 12to 36 little needles in one
little attachment.
And what it does is it goes inand it pulses on your skin and
goes in and out of your skin andyou set the depth based on how
much you want to see a change inyour face.
SPEAKER_24 (44:27):
Okay so what what I'm hearing so far is tattoo
machine.
Okay keep going kinda literallylike a tattoo machine with a
larger needle count on it.
SPEAKER_41 (44:37):
Yeah but it doesn't it you know they're not putting
dye in your skin or anythingwell no but I'm saying just like
the machine yeah what it does isit forces the collagen to come
to the surface of your skin.
Now when you turn 50 60 yearsold forget it folks because you
don't have that collagen anylonger you're not producing it
like these young girls are andthese young guys but um are you
(45:01):
producing anything Bobby I'm notI'm not sure I'm producing
anything at this point.
But that also has been a youknow a a new development that
people are trying for theirhair.
That's crazy.
Well I mean like I said I'vedone the microneedling on my
face and I've done the laser thered laser on my face but again I
(45:22):
don't have any collagen left soI'm kind of just doing it for
recreation.
It's recreational use officer Iswear because I got nothing else
going on so you know I do that.
But um do you know anybody thatlike a woman we won't say men
because men we're pretty used tomen balding and that's no big
(45:43):
deal to us but do you know anywomen that you know have really
severe I mean I know it runs inour family on your side really
bad.
SPEAKER_24 (45:53):
Yeah my mom's hair was really really thick and then
of course when she got older itfell off and your sisters and
stuff it's always once they gotolder it was yeah but otherwise
I mean like I know of a coupleof men that have done like the
hair transplants.
Yeah did that work so I'm gonnatell I'm gonna say no but I'm
(46:16):
not a doctor.
Okay.
Maybe it did work and I'm justlooking at it you know wrong.
Um but it's weird because youknow they take the hair
follicles from other parts ofthe body.
Ouch oh gross like off theirlegs or something like um yeah
and I'm just like is that youknow of course I gotta crack
jokes because that's what I do.
And I'm like is so is that likeback hair or butt hair?
(46:38):
I just want to know what I'mlooking at at this point because
it yeah.
SPEAKER_37 (46:42):
Oh my gosh.
SPEAKER_24 (46:44):
I guess I just I don't see that I grew up with
the whole it's just hair yeahmentality you know I dye it cut
it bleach it lose it whateverit's just hair yeah you know and
I guess that's me so I guess Idon't know.
SPEAKER_41 (46:59):
Remember when uh there were a lot of people a lot
of guys out there who woretoupees did you ever wear a
toupee Dr.
SPEAKER_24 (47:06):
Domain just out of curiosity did you ever wear one
no why would he need one yeahhis luscious head of hair over
here shining in the light of thestudio I lost mine in school oh
you did yeah I I I noticed Inoticed it after I went on a
field trip at school that youlost like that one trip and all
(47:29):
your hair fell out it was wewent to this um trying to think
of the name of the placeChernobyl and went back I can
notice it was thinning that wasan immediate response I grew up
with a friend who actually wasbalding at 16.
Yeah he was almost completelybald by the time he was 18.
SPEAKER_41 (47:47):
Yeah I remember kids in high school that they were
balding and it's that's crazybut like I said I always grew up
with that mentality of it's justhair.
SPEAKER_24 (47:55):
Yeah and I'm not gonna stress about it because
it's just hair.
SPEAKER_41 (48:00):
Yeah yeah there's another you know there's other
vitamins and you know tincturesoils and things like that.
Castor oil is supposed to be onethat is has a little bit of
evidence behind it.
SPEAKER_24 (48:13):
Castor oil has been used for everything laxative
everything.
SPEAKER_41 (48:17):
Make you poop make your hair grow.
It's like morphine but put it inyour belly button to make your
digestive system work better.
It is kind of crazy.
And then biotin of course is thevitamin that kind of helps your
nails and your hair grow but Iremember seeing a guy who had
the hair transplant and it waslike he had little X's on his
(48:40):
head yeah where where they putthe put the new hair phone
stuff.
Yeah and does that like stayforever or does that peel up?
Allegedly no allegedly no I meanhe had had these things put in a
long while back and I thoughtdoes that ever seal up I mean
what's going on I think the hairis supposed to grow over it so
(49:01):
that it you can't see it but I'mnot a hundred percent would you
rather be bald or have thoselittle pockets on your head I
don't know I'd rather see himbald I mean Dr.
Domain shaves his head which Ithink is very attractive yeah
it's kind of a fryer tuck thinggoing on though if he doesn't if
he doesn't shave it it's a wholefryer tuck thing.
(49:22):
I said Bozo the clown at leasthe didn't get one of those
toupees with the magnets thatwere installed under the guy's
skin oh he shut you off he shutyou off oh my goodness he shut
your mic off that's so funny umno I like I do like uh a bald
(49:45):
head I think it's uh attractiveso okay look at him he's just
gloating now but um perms alsoyou know we talked about the
chemical damage um of dyes andstuff because they have ammonias
and peroxides and perm solutionsespecially bleaching yeah and
perm solutions are so alkalineuh they can weaken the hair on
(50:07):
the outer layer and the cuticlesand uh it just really makes it
dry brittle and prone tobreakage and really breakage is
the main problem and we thinkthat it's really just our hair
thinning but um scalp irritationI think I told everybody this
but when oh Lord when we werewhen we were in Georgia we
(50:32):
stayed in our motor home forlike three months waiting for
our house to get done and uh wehave slide outs on it and every
freaking time I was underneathone of the sides I'd come up and
just smack my head so hard andit was just terrible and you
know Dr.
Domain was like should I get youa helmet that's my first thought
(50:54):
you need a helmet at this point.
What happened was I hit it sohard I almost passed out and it
caused me you have no you haveno self-preservation.
I have nothing I got nothingthere's nothing up there and
also it gave me vertigo and ifyou've ever had a bad case of
vertigo it's uh it's horribleit's horrible well anyway since
(51:16):
that time period the where I gotmy and I kept hitting the same
spot yeah it's not evendifferent spots it wasn't it was
like why can't I just hit adifferent spot you know you're
just you're just the epitome ofdoing the same thing over and
over again and expectingdifferent results.
I'm like the poster child forunsafe acts aren't I and to
(51:37):
think that I was a safetydirector I know compliance but
um yeah so anyway so my scalpnow is just it's a mess and my
dermatologist is like oh youmust got hit in the head yeah
like 43 times or dropped as asomething like that.
Probably both but yeahdefinitely um other things
(51:58):
obviously that can cause hairloss are improper applications
or chemical burns that can occurfrom like I said before perms uh
that can damage your hair andpotentially lead to scarring on
the scalp and you know thereason I mean you see a lot of
guys shaving their heads most ofthem don't get a lot of perms
(52:19):
and most of them don't do a lotof hair coloring if you don't
have any of it but um anyway thefrequency of dyeing or perming
your hair uh can causecumulative damage to the scalp.
Well that's just common sensethough ultimately you know I'm
just telling you as an old womanhere if you want to save your
(52:42):
hair girls you might want to uhconsider I don't know maybe not
putting so much chemical on itat this point maybe not using
four cans of aqua nut back inthe 80s to get your hair for
glamour shots ready why are youcalling me out listen I'll just
call me out like that you don'thave a single glamour shot of me
that's all my museum okay youand my sister it was like every
(53:06):
other weekend let's get aglamour shot and then you know
you choke on the hair those myhair was so big oh my god both
of yours it was it was crazyyeah so you look back on some of
those 70s pictures and you go ohwhat happened but anyway I think
that's probably all I've got foruh the losing your hair today's
(53:29):
like uh we'll probably belooking for a new IT person
since Dr.
Domain since we've insulted himas much as we can what's this we
shit this was all you you didyou're see you're bailing on me
now well that's all the insanitywe have for today and we really
do appreciate you joining ushere and we appreciate you going
(53:49):
into year two with us at therabbit hole studio be sure to
follow us uh we look forward tospending time with you each week
please like us and share us andif you have positive feedback or
you have a topic please send itoff to us at boomerandgenxer at
gmail.com hate mail we're stillnot accepting that uh as a
matter of fact it's probablylaying out there somewhere with
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my hair spalling out of my wheel53 cans of aqua oh my gosh so
anyway until next week I'm JaneBird I'm Bobby Joy and you're
stuck with the see some later
Welcome everybody to today's show.
A boomer in a Gen X are walkingto a bar, coming to you from the
rabbit hole studio, where you,as our listeners, will
experience some wit and wisdom,some smart assery, and a mother
and daughter questioning, are weeven related?
My name's Bobby Joy, and myco-host is my mom Jane.
And uh, we're here to entertainyou today with uh, I think
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something that my co-host knowsa lot about.
SPEAKER_40 (00:46):
Thanks.
Thanks for that kind ofintroduction.
unknown (00:50):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_24 (00:50):
Well, like well, we were talking about our topic.
I was like, well, I have noexperience in this, so I'm just
gonna wing it.
SPEAKER_41 (00:56):
I definitely do, but before we get started, um, as
our listeners know, we hit ourone-year mark and we already
celebrated that anniversary.
And it was interesting some ofthe questions that we got
regarding the anniversary show.
And I did have someone ask me,Hey, do you guys really not know
(01:18):
what your topic's gonna be whenyou start the show?
Because I always say, Hey Bobby,what's our topic today?
And we definitely do know whatour topics will be.
We have to research our topics.
Yeah, there's been a couple thathave been off the cuff.
Yeah, but for the most part, Ilike to research, you like to
research.
And so if it's something that'sreally deep, we uh we have to go
(01:40):
find some facts and find somestudies and things like that.
SPEAKER_24 (01:44):
Because I don't want to sound like an idiot talking
out of my ass.
Well, I mean, I want to have,you know, incredible sources.
Look, there is there, and we'renot gonna tell the listeners on
which episodes it was, but therehave been times either I have
not said the topic or mom hasnot said the topic, or we just
really don't know what we'regonna talk about until we
actually sit down behind themics and go, Hey, what are we
(02:06):
talking about?
What are we talking about today?
SPEAKER_41 (02:08):
Yeah, and so sometimes if it's uh you know
just a pretty face value type ofuh topic or surface topic, we we
don't really have to researchanything, we just pull it out of
our butts, like you said.
SPEAKER_24 (02:21):
Well, right, because I mean this show is our
opinions, that's right.
SPEAKER_41 (02:24):
So because we're not professionals or we're not
experts on anything, right?
I mean, we're a professionalasshole, but I'm a doctor of
nothing, so there's that.
And you also uh had somequestions, Bobby, related to our
anniversary show and about ifwe've learned anything about
(02:46):
each other, didn't you?
SPEAKER_24 (02:48):
Yeah, yeah.
And I was kind of like, Did youlisten to all the episodes?
SPEAKER_41 (02:51):
Because yeah, it was so what was the question?
They said what'd they say toyou?
SPEAKER_24 (02:55):
They asked me, did you learn, did both of you learn
something new about each other?
SPEAKER_41 (03:01):
So yeah, well, I definitely did for a moment of
silence for you know 20 minuteson air.
Wow, yeah.
What and did you, Bobby, learnactually about good, yeah, good,
and I think we learned somethingnew about Dr.
Domain and his boat.
SPEAKER_16 (03:21):
Sorry, Dr.
Domain.
Ouch.
Ouch, scratch, better call thewhampulence.
Yeah, but no, we did.
SPEAKER_24 (03:30):
We got we got some really good questions, and I
think that, you know, if we docompile enough questions, if
listeners want to send them in,um, we could actually just do a
show of questions.
SPEAKER_41 (03:40):
Yeah, and people ask, you know, sometimes we just
do not agree, that's for sure.
Yeah, and they've asked, youknow, do you walk away from from
the studio mad at each other?
The answer is no, we're adultsfor crying out loud.
No, and you know, we have aright to our own opinions, and
you know, as long as I don't tryto shove mine in her face and
she doesn't shove hers in myface, um, we're all you can't
(04:04):
anymore because I'm an adult.
Well, I do chase you downsometimes.
I have run down the driveway tothe city.
It's like that TikTok of thatguy chasing the other guy with
the core form.
SPEAKER_24 (04:15):
Yeah, yeah.
So I mean, let's not get itwrong.
Yeah, I am almost 45 years old,but she will still whoop my ass.
SPEAKER_41 (04:22):
Well, it isn't that, it's that, you know, again, we
do not see eye to eye on a lotof things.
And there have been times whenboth of us have bit our tongues
during these episodes when we'rerecording.
It's like, oh, do I want to takeher down?
No, not today.
I won't do it.
But but what the hell is wrongwith you?
(04:44):
Like it's just after the showand we get out of the studio,
it's kind of like, what were youthinking, you bonehead?
SPEAKER_24 (04:51):
And uh, that's kind of the premise of the show, is
the fact that we don't agree.
Now, there are some topics thatwe don't touch on um because we
did make a uh what I guess it'dbe a gentleman's agreement
beforehand that these you knowthree topics were not.
SPEAKER_41 (05:06):
Okay, did something transpire between the last show
and now that you're a gentleman?
Because well, I'm saying, like,you know, that's what it would
be called historically is agentleman's agreement.
We got a handshake agreement,yeah, yeah.
That we we aren't gonna talkabout certain things, and we're
not, you know, and and again, itisn't that we're mother-daughter
or that we're related.
(05:26):
The fact of the matter is, iswe're two intelligent adults,
and you know what, we know howto treat other intelligent
adults.
Um, and you know, uh you justdon't treat people badly because
they've got a different opinionof you, no, absolutely not uh
than you.
So today, when Bobby was sayingthat I have a little bit of
experience in this, it is truebecause several of my friends
(05:51):
and I have been talking aboutthis, and it is why are we
losing our hair?
Me, yeah, you're end of story.
It's yeah, you're not losingyour hair because your hair's
nice and thick like a bitch.
SPEAKER_24 (06:05):
I caused your your hair loss, yeah.
SPEAKER_41 (06:07):
Probably it caused it to go white, that's for sure.
But you know, men uh have agenetic um what do I want to
predisposition?
No, well, maybe uh I was gonnasay retardation of a of uh
genetics.
Now, that's not a bad word.
It's a scientific term.
It is a scientific term.
Men are kind of retarded wherethey okay.
(06:31):
You might want to watch your P'sand Q's down there, uh, where
they do bald, you know, they dohave that issue.
Uh women typically don't havethe issue of balding, although
there is um what is it,alopecia?
SPEAKER_15 (06:47):
I was gonna say I've seen a lot of balding women
though that have that.
SPEAKER_41 (06:51):
Um, but uh we started looking this up because
I do have the issue.
I've always had very thin andfine hair, and and my my
beautician has always said, Oh,your hair's not thin, you've got
plenty of it.
It's just very, very fine.
SPEAKER_24 (07:05):
Yeah, and I think that's what my sister has too is
she has more of your hair thanyeah, you can see through our
hair.
SPEAKER_41 (07:12):
I mean, it's like my hair can be down.
SPEAKER_24 (07:13):
And mine you can barely get a comb through
because it's so thick.
SPEAKER_41 (07:16):
Yeah, so yours look like dreadlocks.
That's that's not the hairthat's not showering.
unknown (07:26):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_41 (07:27):
So anyway, started looking some of this up, and you
know, we all know that there aregenetics and hormones that cause
some of the, you know, arecommon causes, uh, leading to
the gradual shrinking of ourhair follicles, right?
SPEAKER_00 (07:44):
Right.
SPEAKER_41 (07:44):
In men, it causes receding hair lines and bald
spots.
While in women, it it typicallyresults in thinning hair along
the top of the scalp.
What?
What?
SPEAKER_24 (07:54):
Nothing.
In men I call itforward-thinking foreheads.
SPEAKER_41 (08:05):
Dr.
Tomate isn't even cracking asmile on that one.
Okay, well, we're gonna moveright along.
But you know, when I wasyounger, um, I remember my mom
saying this, and so did a lot ofthe women that were her age.
They used to say, if you kidskeep perming your hair, you
girls keep perming your hair, oryou keep dyeing your hair,
(08:28):
you're gonna lose your hair.
SPEAKER_24 (08:29):
You used to tell us that.
If you keep dyeing your hair,you're gonna your hair's gonna
fall out.
SPEAKER_41 (08:33):
Ta-da! And the US judges give us a 9.5 for that
information.
SPEAKER_24 (08:38):
I was gonna say I I don't see it.
SPEAKER_41 (08:39):
I'm you don't see it, but uh, I it does it does
contribute because of the harshchemicals.
And what happens is uh, youknow, the scalp, the skin um
atrophies, just like other partsof our body.
You know, our skin gets real,real thin.
And so it does make adifference.
So if you are not dying yourhair, you're probably in better
(09:02):
shape than some of the rest ofus when you get older, unless
you have really shitty geneticsand then you just I mean you're
screwed from the beginning,right?
SPEAKER_38 (09:09):
Right.
That's absolutely true.
SPEAKER_24 (09:11):
And it's not just genetics.
I mean, you're looking at poornutrition, you're looking at
stress, underlying medicalconditions, not just alopecia,
you know, other things cause it.
Even medications can cause it.
SPEAKER_41 (09:22):
Oh, absolutely.
And so when we were looking thisup, those are all really great
examples of what has an impacton our losing our hair.
SPEAKER_05 (09:33):
Right.
SPEAKER_41 (09:34):
And some of it can have to do, this is kind of
funny that I found out.
If you're in a high stress joband you're a woman and you're in
a high stress job, it is notuncommon for us to grow facial
hair more so than what a regularwoman in a lower stress job
would be.
SPEAKER_24 (09:51):
Are you just you're just making excuses for the for
my beard?
SPEAKER_18 (09:55):
For the black hairs that I can see from here.
SPEAKER_24 (09:59):
No, it's true.
You know, I got asked bysomebody at work why do you keep
tweezers in your truck?
Because that's the best time.
That's light.
Yeah, it's the best line oflike, oh, I can see it now, and
I'm sitting in the parking lotat work just trying to pluck the
one hair.
SPEAKER_41 (10:14):
Because I could have one that's four inches out of my
chin, and Dr.
Domain will say nothing otherthan, you know, why didn't you
tell me?
And they'll say, Well, I thoughtyou were trying to grow a beard.
I don't know.
SPEAKER_24 (10:24):
You know, well, I mean, and in high stress jobs
and things like that, you know,just like, and I don't, I know
you know this, but like when awoman has her time of the month,
the chemical that's released istestosterone.
Right.
So we're releasing more of thattestosterone.
I always think it's funnybecause I'm like, you know, the
whole reason that women act likebitches on their period is
(10:46):
because of the hightestosterone.
I said, so we must be actinglike men for that week.
SPEAKER_41 (10:51):
Well, I'm I'm not gonna broach that one right
there.
SPEAKER_24 (10:55):
But it is, it's it is a surge of testosterone,
especially in you know, veryhigh stress, high, you know,
anxiety environments whereyou're there for eight, nine,
ten, twelve hours a day.
Yeah, and you're you're reallyworking to keep up with
everybody.
So yeah, I I totally believethat facial hair is more pr you
know pronounced with women likethat.
SPEAKER_41 (11:17):
And it's funny that you mentioned, you know, when
somebody's on their menstrualstyle uh cycle that um I
remember when someone, aprevious husband, uh would say,
You're such a mmm when you're onyour period.
And it was like, well, maybeyou're more of an asshole.
(11:39):
I don't, you know, I mean, as itturns out, I was, but but that's
not the point.
But that's not the point.
That's not the point.
SPEAKER_24 (11:47):
Wrong time to bring it up, is what I'm saying.
SPEAKER_41 (11:49):
So normal aging involves, you know, hormonal
changes, obviously.
Of course, like menopause inwomen, right?
SPEAKER_24 (11:56):
And pre-menopause and perimenopause.
Post-menopause, yeah.
Pre-pre-menopause, yeah.
SPEAKER_41 (12:01):
I don't know.
And once you've gone way overthe hill and you can hardly
move, pause.
Um, but uh a slower hair growthcycle does occur.
And again, you know, stress,environmental exposures, you
know, people who are out in thesun a lot can their skin can
thin a lot quicker than someonewho's not.
(12:23):
And as you mentioned, certainhealth conditions can definitely
accelerate hair loss, but thereare some things that you, you
know, can do about it uh or tryto, but if it's genetics, you're
pretty well screwed.
SPEAKER_24 (12:37):
Yeah, you you don't have a prayer.
SPEAKER_41 (12:39):
But what happens in normal in the normal aging
process, as most of us know, iswe go into that slower growth
cycle and our hair folliclesshrink.
And shrinking follicles and finehair, what happens is it
produces shorter and finer hairstrands, and then what happens?
It starts breaking off.
(13:00):
And I find balls of hair aroundthe house all the time.
SPEAKER_24 (13:05):
I mean, I shed like a rottweiler, so I mean I got
hair everywhere.
Do you ever know how I've doneso?
SPEAKER_41 (13:10):
I have to ask you this because your hair's not
long, but not now.
Not now, but you had some longerhair.
Yeah.
And your your daughter's hairwas a little longer, uh, and so
was both of them.
SPEAKER_05 (13:22):
Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_41 (13:23):
And have you ever taken uh the laundry out of the
dryer and had a big old wad ofhair on it?
Yes.
Is that the grossest thing?
SPEAKER_24 (13:32):
It is, and what pisses me off is I cut my hair a
little while ago.
It's been a couple weeks now,and I'm still finding my balls
of long blonde hair on mylaundry when I take them out of
the dryer, and I'm like, this isunnecessary.
SPEAKER_41 (13:47):
Completely unnecessary.
We probably shouldn't be tellingmen this stuff, should we?
I mean, you know, we recognizethat our hair is thinning, but
we don't want you to recognizethat our hair is thinning.
SPEAKER_24 (13:58):
Well, maybe if they get the you know, information
they can they can give us lessstress, exactly.
SPEAKER_41 (14:04):
They can like not bring it up.
SPEAKER_24 (14:05):
Like you have the information, okay, shit's
happening, don't bring it up.
SPEAKER_41 (14:11):
So they say that there's some topical drugs out
there that help.
SPEAKER_20 (14:15):
And are we talking about the hairspray in a can?
SPEAKER_41 (14:18):
Is that what's uh what was that called?
SPEAKER_24 (14:20):
Um, but it was a hairspray, but it was colored.
SPEAKER_46 (14:26):
Why would I know?
SPEAKER_24 (14:27):
Because you're the one with the shining head.
We're not sure if you tried it.
No brogaine.
Oh, no, I was talking about theactual like you shake the can
up.
It's like literal spray paint,and then they would spray their
hair.
SPEAKER_41 (14:40):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_24 (14:41):
And so that the the part in their hair would it's
not even the same person in thebefore and after photos.
SPEAKER_41 (14:47):
It's like really funny.
SPEAKER_24 (14:49):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_41 (14:50):
So, but the FDA has approved like Minoxid Minoxidil,
which is rogain, that's all itis.
Yeah, and that's available.
SPEAKER_24 (14:58):
And that's been around a long time.
SPEAKER_41 (14:59):
I mean, rogueine came out what in late 90s, we
want to say it came out for men,it never came out for women
until like the 70s, late 70s.
Yeah, and so yeah, now it'savailable for women.
SPEAKER_24 (15:11):
That's crazy, it's been around for that long.
SPEAKER_41 (15:12):
There, there's also some oral medications, and let's
face it, there is no proof ofany of this stuff.
So let's all calm down about it.
SPEAKER_24 (15:21):
Um, you can buy just because the FDA approves it
doesn't mean that it works,right?
And that's one thing we will begetting into on another show.
SPEAKER_41 (15:29):
It means that it's not gonna work like acid on your
head, right?
But it does might not kill you.
It might not kill you, it mightnot cause you to grow a third or
fourth arm, might not causecrickets to fall out of your
head.
SPEAKER_24 (15:42):
I mean, we that's that's the only thing that we
can cross our fingers and hopeat this point because yeah,
yeah.
SPEAKER_41 (15:50):
So there's some um lasered light treatments.
So have you heard of those?
SPEAKER_24 (15:56):
So I've heard of them for like other areas of the
body for your face.
SPEAKER_17 (16:00):
For facial, usually a red like facial or like um
hair removal, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_41 (16:08):
Uh-oh.
That was Bobby stifling asneeze.
Um, but yeah, they have laserlight treatment.
SPEAKER_24 (16:16):
And um but like really, I mean, really, is it is
that all it takes to actuallyfix something?
It's not, no, it's not that'slike going in and saying you
don't need liposuction, you justneed to immerse your body in
this freezing temperature for 20minutes every three days, and
it'll well, okay.
There might be a little bit oftruth to that, but come on now.
(16:38):
Laser lights, really.
SPEAKER_41 (16:39):
Also, uh microneedling.
And I've done microneedling onmy face.
I thought that was where theyisn't that where they tattoo.
No, micro needle.
Oh, no, no, no.
That's um, I'll come to that ina minute when I think of what it
is.
Uh blade uh microbladingmicroblading.
But micro needling is where youand I have the machine upstairs
(17:00):
and you buy these littleattachments, and they can have
anywhere from 12 to 36 littleneedles in one little
attachment.
And what it does is it goes inand it pulses on your skin and
goes in and out of your skin,and you set the depth based on
how much you want to see achange in your face.
SPEAKER_24 (17:18):
Okay, so what what I'm hearing so far is tattoo
machine.
Okay, keep going.
Kinda, yeah, kinda literallylike a tattoo machine with a
larger needle count on it.
SPEAKER_41 (17:28):
Yeah, but it doesn't it, you know, they're not
putting dye in your skin oranything.
SPEAKER_24 (17:31):
Well, no, but I'm saying just like the machine,
yeah.
SPEAKER_41 (17:33):
But what it does is it forces the collagen to come
to the surface of your skin.
Now, when you turn 50, 60 yearsold, forget it, folks, because
you don't have that collagen anylonger.
You're not producing it likethese young girls are and these
young guys are.
Yeah, I think I'm not anymore.
But um are you producinganything, Bobby?
SPEAKER_24 (17:53):
I'm not I'm not sure I'm producing anything at this
point.
SPEAKER_41 (17:55):
But that also has been a you know a new
development that people aretrying for their hair.
That's crazy.
Well, I mean, like I said, I'vedone the microneedling on my
face and I've done the laser,the red laser on my face.
But again, I don't have anycollagen left, so I'm kind of
just doing it for recreation.
(18:18):
It's recreational use, officer,I swear.
Because I got nothing else goingon, so you know, I do that.
But um, do you know anybody thatuh like a woman?
We won't say men because menwe're pretty used to men
balding, and that's no big dealto us.
But do you know any women thatyou know have really severe?
SPEAKER_24 (18:40):
I mean, I know it runs in our family on your side
really bad.
SPEAKER_41 (18:44):
Yeah, my mom's hair was really, really thick, and
then of course when she gotolder, it fell off.
SPEAKER_24 (18:50):
And your sisters and stuff was always straight out
once they got older, it wasyeah, yeah, kind of thin.
Yeah, but otherwise, I mean,like I know of a couple of men
that have done like the hairtransplants.
SPEAKER_43 (19:04):
Yeah, did that work?
SPEAKER_24 (19:06):
So I'm gonna tell I'm gonna say no, but I'm not a
doctor.
Okay, maybe it did work, and I'mjust looking at it, you know,
wrong.
Um, but it's weird because youknow, they take the hair
follicles from other parts ofthe body.
Oh, gross, like off their legsor something, like um, yeah.
And I'm just like, is that youknow, of course I gotta crack
(19:27):
jokes because that's what I do.
And I'm like, is it so is thatlike back hair or butt hair?
I just want to know what I'mlooking at at this point because
it yeah.
SPEAKER_37 (19:36):
Oh my gosh.
SPEAKER_24 (19:37):
I guess I just I don't see that I grew up with
the whole it's just hair, yeah,mentality, you know, I dye it,
cut it, bleach it, lose it,whatever.
It's just hair, yeah, you know,and I guess that's me, so I
guess I don't know.
SPEAKER_41 (19:53):
Remember when uh there were a lot of people, a
lot of guys out there who woretoupees.
Did you ever wear a toupee, Dr.
Domain?
Just out of curiosity, did youever wear one?
SPEAKER_44 (20:02):
No.
SPEAKER_41 (20:04):
Why would he need one?
SPEAKER_24 (20:05):
Yeah, his luscious head of hair over here shining
in the light of the studio.
SPEAKER_31 (20:12):
I'm gonna go.
SPEAKER_46 (20:13):
I lost mine in school.
SPEAKER_31 (20:14):
Oh, you did?
SPEAKER_46 (20:15):
Yeah, I I noticed I noticed it after I went on a
field trip at school.
SPEAKER_41 (20:20):
That you lost like that one trip, and all your hair
fell out.
SPEAKER_46 (20:24):
It was we went to this um trying to think of the
name of the place, Chernobyl,and went back.
I can notice it was thinning.
SPEAKER_24 (20:32):
So that was an immediate response.
I grew up with a friend whoactually was balding at 16.
Yeah, he was almost completelybald by the time he was 18.
SPEAKER_41 (20:41):
Yeah, I remember kids in high school that they
were balding, and it's that'scrazy.
SPEAKER_24 (20:46):
But like I said, I always grew up with that
mentality of it's just hair.
Yeah, and I'm not gonna stressabout it because it's just hair.
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_41 (20:54):
There's another, you know, there's other vitamins and
you know, tinctures, vitamins,oils, and things like that.
Castor oil is supposed to be onethat is has a little bit of
evidence behind it.
SPEAKER_24 (21:07):
Castor oil has been used for everything.
Laxidin.
SPEAKER_41 (21:10):
Everything make you poop, make your hair grow.
It's like morphine, but put itin your belly button to make
your digestive system workbetter.
It is kind of crazy, and thenbiotin, of course, is the
vitamin that kind of helps yournails and your hair grow.
But um, so I haven't, you know,I mean, I haven't really I
(21:30):
remember seeing a guy who hadthe hair transplant, and it was
like he had little X's on hishead, yeah, where where they put
the new pairs on stuff.
Yeah, and does that like stayforever or noes?
SPEAKER_24 (21:45):
Allegedly, no.
Allegedly no.
SPEAKER_41 (21:48):
I mean, he had had these things put in a long while
back, and I thought, does thatever seal up?
I mean, what's it going on?
SPEAKER_24 (21:56):
I think the hair is supposed to grow over it so that
it you can't see it, but I'm not100%.
SPEAKER_41 (22:02):
Would you rather be bald or have those little little
pockets on your head?
I don't know.
I'd rather see him bald.
I mean, Dr.
Domain shaves his head, which Ithink is very attractive.
SPEAKER_24 (22:12):
Yeah, it's kind of a fryer tuck thing going on,
though.
If he doesn't shave it, it's awhole fryer tuck thing.
SPEAKER_35 (22:20):
I said Bozo the clown.
SPEAKER_24 (22:26):
At least he didn't get one of those toupees with
the magnets that were installedunder the guy's skin.
SPEAKER_41 (22:32):
Oh, he shut you off.
He shut you off.
Oh my goodness, he shut your micoff.
That's so funny.
Um, no, I like I do like uh abald head.
I think it's uh attractive.
So look at him, he's justgloating now.
But um perms also, you know, wetalked about the chemical damage
(22:55):
um of dyes and stuff becausethey have ammonias and peroxides
and perm solutions, especiallybleaching, yeah.
And perm solutions are soalkaline, uh, they can weaken
the hair on the outer layer andthe cuticles, and uh it just
really makes it dry, brittle,and prone to breakage.
And really, breakage is the mainproblem, and we think that it's
really just our hair thinning,but um scalp irritation.
(23:19):
I think I told everybody this,but when oh Lord.
When we were when we were inGeorgia, we stayed in our
motorhome for like three monthswaiting for our house to get
done.
And uh we have slide outs on it,and every freaking time I was
(23:40):
underneath one of the sides, I'dcome up and just smack my head
so hard, and it was justterrible.
And you know, Dr.
Domain was like, Should I getyou a helmet?
That's my first thought.
You need a helmet to just play.
What happened was I hit it sohard I almost passed out, and it
caused me.
You have no, you have noself-preservation.
(24:02):
I have nothing, I got nothing,there's nothing up there, and
also it gave me vertigo.
And if you've ever had a badcase of vertigo, it's it's
horrible.
It's horrible.
Well, anyway, since that timeperiod, the where I got my and I
kept hitting the same spot,yeah, it's not even different
spots.
It wasn't.
It was like, why can't I justhit a different spot?
SPEAKER_24 (24:25):
You know, you're just you're just the epitome of
doing the same thing over andover again and expecting
different results.
SPEAKER_41 (24:31):
I'm like the poster child for unsafe acts, aren't I?
And to think that I was a safetydirector.
But um, yeah, so anyway, so myscalp now is just it's a mess.
And my dermatologist is like,oh, you must got hit in the
head.
Yeah, like 43 times.
Or dropped as a message.
SPEAKER_30 (24:51):
Yeah, something like that.
SPEAKER_21 (24:53):
Probably both, but yeah, definitely.
SPEAKER_41 (24:55):
Um, other things, obviously, that can cause hair
loss are improper applicationsor chemical burns that can occur
from, like I said before, permsuh that can damage your hair and
potentially lead to scarring onthe scalp.
And you know, the reason I mean,you see a lot of guys shaving
their heads, most of them don'tget a lot of perms.
(25:17):
And most of them don't do a lotof hair coloring if you don't
have any of it.
But um, anyway, the frequency ofdyeing or perming your hair uh
can cause cumulative damage tothe scalp.
Well, that's just common sensethough.
Ultimately, you know, I'm justtelling you, as an old woman
(25:38):
here, if you want to save yourhair, girls, you might want to
uh consider, I don't know, maybenot putting so much chemical on
it at this point.
SPEAKER_24 (25:46):
Maybe not using four cans of AquaNet back in the 80s
to get your hair for glamourshots ready.
SPEAKER_32 (25:52):
Why are you calling me out?
Listen, I'll just call me outlike that.
SPEAKER_24 (25:56):
You don't have a single glamour shot of me.
That's all my scam.
SPEAKER_14 (26:00):
Okay.
You and my sister, it was likeevery other weekend, let's go to
glamour shots.
SPEAKER_09 (26:06):
And then like uh you know, you choke on the hair.
I remember those.
My hair was so big.
Oh my god, it was crazy.
It was crazy.
SPEAKER_41 (26:14):
Yeah.
So you look back on some ofthose 70s pictures and you go,
oh, what happened?
But anyway, I think that'sprobably all I've got for uh the
losing your hair today.
SPEAKER_24 (26:26):
Like uh, we'll probably be looking for a new IT
person since Dr.
Domain.
SPEAKER_19 (26:31):
Since we've insulting him as much as we can.
This is we shit.
This was all you.
You did this.
SPEAKER_41 (26:37):
You're seeing you're bailing on me now.
Well, that's all the insanity wehave for today.
And we really do appreciate youjoining us here, and we
appreciate you going into yeartwo with us at the rabbit hole
studio.
Be sure to follow us.
Uh, we look forward to spendingtime with you each week.
Please like us and share us.
And if you have positivefeedback or you have a topic,
(26:59):
please send it off to us atboomerandgenxer at gmail.com.
Hate mail, we're still notaccepting that.
Uh, as a matter of fact, it'sprobably laying out there
somewhere with my hairswallowing out of my window.
SPEAKER_11 (27:12):
53 cans of aquamet.
SPEAKER_41 (27:14):
Oh my gosh.
So anyway, until next week, I'mJane Bird.
I'm Bobby Joy, and you're stuckwith the peace out later.
SPEAKER_24 (27:33):
Welcome everybody to today's show, a boomerangster.
Welcome to a bummer, coming toyou from the rabbit hole studio,
where you, as our listeners,will experience some wit and
wisdom, some smart assery, and amother and daughter questioning,
are we even related?
My name's Bobby Joy, and myco-host is my mom Jane.
And uh, we're here to entertainyou today with uh, I think
(27:57):
something that my co-host knowsa lot about.
SPEAKER_40 (28:00):
Thanks, thanks for that kind of introduction.
unknown (28:04):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_24 (28:05):
Well, like when we were talking about our topic, I
was like, Well, I have noexperience in this, so I'm just
gonna wing it.
SPEAKER_41 (28:10):
I definitely do, but before we get started, um, as
our listeners know, we hit ourone-year mark and we already
celebrated that anniversary.
And it was interesting some ofthe questions that we got
regarding the anniversary show.
And I did have someone ask me,Hey, do you guys really not know
(28:32):
what your topic's gonna be whenyou start the show?
Because I always say, Hey,Bobby, what's our topic today?
And we definitely do know whatour topics will be.
We have to research our topics.
Yeah, there's been a couple thathave been off the cuff.
Yeah, but for the most part, Ilike to research, you like to
research, and so if it'ssomething that's really deep, we
(28:53):
uh we have to go find some factsand find some studies and things
like that.
SPEAKER_24 (28:58):
Because I don't want to sound like an idiot talking
out of my ass.
SPEAKER_01 (29:00):
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
SPEAKER_24 (29:04):
I mean, I want to have, you know, incredible
sources.
Look, there is there, and we'renot gonna tell the listeners on
which episodes it was, but therehave been times either I have
not said the topic or mom hasnot said the topic, or we just
really don't know what we'regonna talk about until we
actually sit down behind themics and go, Hey, what are we
(29:24):
talking about?
What are we talking about today?
Yeah.
SPEAKER_41 (29:26):
And so sometimes if it's uh, you know, just a pretty
face value type of uh topic orsurface topic, we we don't
really have to researchanything, we just pull it out of
our butts, like you said.
SPEAKER_24 (29:39):
Well, right, because I mean this show is our
opinions, that's right.
SPEAKER_41 (29:42):
So because we're not professionals or we're not
experts on anything, right?
I mean, we're a professionalasshole, but I'm a doctor of
nothing, so there's that.
And you also uh had somequestions, Bobby, related to
our.
anniversary show and about ifwe've learned anything about
(30:04):
each other, didn't you?
SPEAKER_24 (30:06):
Yeah, yeah.
And I was kind of like, did youlisten to all the episodes?
SPEAKER_41 (30:09):
Because yeah, it was so what was the question?
They said what'd they say toyou?
SPEAKER_24 (30:13):
They they asked me, did you learn, did both of you
learn something new about eachother?
SPEAKER_41 (30:18):
So yeah, well I definitely did for a moment of
silence for you know 20 minuteson air.
Wow.
Yeah.
What and did you Bobby learnactually about it?
I did.
Good.
Yeah.
Good.
And I think we learned somethingnew about Dr.
Domain and his boat.
SPEAKER_16 (30:39):
Sorry Dr.
Domain.
Ouch.
Ouch.
Scratch.
Better call the whambulance.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_24 (30:47):
But no, we did.
We got we got some really goodquestions.
And I think that, you know, ifwe do compile enough questions
if listeners want to send themin, um, we could actually just
do a show of questions.
SPEAKER_41 (30:58):
Yeah.
And people ask, you know,sometimes we just do not agree,
that's for sure.
Yeah.
And they've asked, you know, doyou walk away from from the
studio mad at each other?
The answer is no, we're adultsfor crying out loud.
SPEAKER_50 (31:10):
No.
SPEAKER_41 (31:11):
And, you know, we have a right to our own
opinions.
And you know, as long as I don'ttry to shove mine in her face
and she doesn't shove hers in myface, um, we're all well you
can't anymore because I'm anadult.
Well I do chase you downsometimes.
I have run down the driveway.
It's like that TikTok of thatguy chasing the other guy.
You better work through thatagain.
SPEAKER_24 (31:33):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_41 (31:33):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_24 (31:34):
So I mean let's not get it wrong.
Yeah, I am almost 45 years old,but she will still whoop my ass.
SPEAKER_41 (31:40):
Well it isn't that it's that you know again we do
not see eye to eye on a lot ofthings.
And there have been times whenboth of us have bit our tongues
during these episodes when we'rerecording it's like oh do I want
to take her down no not today.
I won't do it.
But but what the hell is wrongwith you?
SPEAKER_24 (32:02):
Like it's just after the show and we get out of the
studio it's kind of like whatwere you thinking you bonehead
and that's kind of the premiseof the show is the fact that we
don't agree.
Now there are some topics thatwe don't touch on um because we
did make a uh what I guess it'dbe a gentleman's agreement
beforehand that these you knowthree topics were not okay did
(32:24):
something transpire between thelast show and now that you're a
gentleman because well I'msaying like you know that's what
it would be called historicallyis a gentleman's agreement.
SPEAKER_41 (32:35):
We got a handshake agreement.
Yeah yeah that we we aren'tgoing to talk about certain
things and we're not you knowand and again it isn't that
we're mother daughter or thatwe're related the fact of the
matter is is we're twointelligent adults and you know
what we know how to treat otherintelligent adults um and you
know uh you just don't treatpeople badly because they've got
(32:56):
a different opinion of you noabsolutely not uh than you so
today when Bobby was saying thatI have a little bit of
experience in this it is truebecause several of my friends
and I have been talking aboutthis and it is why are we losing
our hair?
unknown (33:15):
Me.
SPEAKER_41 (33:16):
Yeah end of story it's yeah you're not losing your
hair because your hair's niceand thick like I caused your
your hair loss yeah probably itcaused it to go white that's for
sure but you know men uh have agenetic um what do I want to
predisposition?
No well maybe uh I was gonna sayretardation of a of uh genetics
(33:41):
now that's not a bad it's ascientific term it is a
scientific term kind of retardedwhere they okay you might want
to watch your P's and Q's downthere uh where they do bald you
know they do have that issue uhwomen typically don't have the
issue of balding although thereis um I don't know what is it
(34:04):
alopecia I've seen a lot ofbalding women though that have
that um but uh we startedlooking this up because I do
have the issue I've always hadvery thin and fine hair and and
my my beautician has always saidoh your hair's not thin you've
got plenty of it it's just veryvery fine yeah and I think
(34:24):
that's what my sister has too isshe has more of your hair than
yeah you can see through ourhair I mean it's like my hair
can be down and mine you canbarely get a comb through
because it's so thick.
Yeah so yours look likedreadlocks that's that's not the
hair that's the not showeringbut yeah so anyway started
(34:47):
looking some of this up and youknow we all know that there are
genetics and hormones that causesome of the you know our common
causes uh leading to the gradualshrinking of our hair follicles
right right in men it causesreceding hairlines and bald
spots while in women it ittypically results in thinning
(35:09):
hair along the top of the scalpwhat what nothing in men I call
it forward thinking foreheadsDr.
Toldmate isn't even cracking asmile on that one.
Okay well we're gonna move rightalong but you know when I was
(35:32):
younger I remember my mom sayingthis and so did a lot of the
women that were her age theyused to say if you kids keep
perming your hair you girls keepperming your hair or you keep
dyeing your hair you're gonnalose your hair you used to tell
us that if you keep dyeing yourhair you're gonna your hair's
gonna fall out.
Ta-da! And the US judges give usa 9.5 for that information I was
(35:55):
gonna say I I I don't see it.
You don't see it but uh I itdoes it does contribute because
of the harsh chemicals and whathappens is uh you know the scalp
the skin atrophies just likeother parts of our body you know
our skin gets real real thin andso it does make a difference so
if you are not dying your hairyou're probably in better shape
(36:18):
than some of the rest of us whenyou get older unless you have
really shitty genetics and thenyou just I mean you're screwed
from the beginning.
SPEAKER_38 (36:25):
Right, right.
That's absolutely true.
SPEAKER_24 (36:26):
And it's not just genetics I mean you're looking
at poor nutrition you're lookingat stress underlying medical
conditions not just alopecia youknow other things cause it even
medications can cause it.
SPEAKER_41 (36:38):
Oh absolutely and so when we were looking this up
those are all really greatexamples of what has an impact
on our losing our hair right andsome of it can have to do this
is kind of funny that I foundout if you're in a high stress
job and you're a woman andyou're in a high stress job it
(36:59):
is not uncommon for us to growfacial hair more so than what a
regular woman in a lower stressjob would be.
SPEAKER_24 (37:06):
Are you just you're just making excuses for the for
my beard for the black hairsthat I can see from here.
No it's true.
You know I got asked by somebodyat work why do you keep tweezers
in your truck?
Because that's the best time.
Yeah it's the best light of likeoh I can see it now and I'm
sitting in the parking lot atwork just trying to pluck the
(37:29):
one hair.
SPEAKER_41 (37:29):
Because I could have one that's four inches out of my
chin and Dr.
SPEAKER_24 (37:32):
Domain will say nothing other than you know why
didn't you tell me and they'llsay well I thought you were
trying to grow a beard I don'tknow you know well I mean and in
high stress jobs and things likethat you know just like and I
don't I know you know this butlike when a woman has her time
of the month the chemical that'sreleased is testosterone.
(37:54):
Right.
So we're releasing more of thattestosterone.
I always think it's funnybecause I'm like you know the
whole reason that women act likebitches on their period is
because of the high testosteroneI said so we must be acting like
men for that week.
SPEAKER_41 (38:06):
Well I'm I'm not gonna broach that one right
there.
SPEAKER_24 (38:11):
But it is it's it it is a a surge of testosterone
especially in you know very highstress high you know anxiety
environments where you're therefor eight nine 10 12 hours a day
yeah and you're you're reallyworking to keep up with
everybody.
So yeah I I totally believe thatfacial hair is more pr you know
pronounced with women like that.
SPEAKER_41 (38:32):
And it's funny that you mentioned you know when
somebody's on their menstrualstyle cycle that um I remember
when someone a previous husbanduh would say you're such a mmm
when you're on your period andit was like well maybe you're
more of an asshole on it.
(38:55):
I don't you know I mean as itturns out I was but but that's
not the point.
But that's not the point.
That's not the point.
Wrong time to bring it up isthat I'm saying so normal aging
involves you know hormonalchanges obviously of course like
menopause in women right andpre-menopause and perimenopause
postmenopause yeahpre-pre-menopause I don't know
(39:17):
and once you've gone way overthe hill and you can hardly move
pause um but uh a slower hairgrowth cycle does occur and
again you know stressenvironmental exposures you know
people who are out in the sun alot can their skin can thin a
lot quicker than someone who'snot and as you mentioned certain
(39:41):
health conditions can definitelyaccelerate hair loss but there
are some things that you youknow can do about it uh or try
to but if it's genetics you'repretty well screwed yeah you you
don't have a prayer but whathappens in normal in the normal
aging process as most of us knowis we go into that slower growth
(40:02):
cycle and our hair folliclesshrink and shrinking follicles
and fine hair what happens is itproduces shorter and finer hair
strands and then what happens itstarts breaking off and I find
balls of hair around the houseall the time.
SPEAKER_24 (40:21):
I mean I shed like a Rottweiler so I mean I got hair
everywhere.
SPEAKER_41 (40:25):
Do you ever know how I so I have to ask you this
because your hair's not long butyou not now but you had some
longer hair yeah and your yourdaughter's hair was a little
longer uh and so was which oneboth of them.
SPEAKER_24 (40:38):
Oh okay and have you ever taken the the laundry out
of the dryer and had a big oldwad of hair on it yes is that
the grossest thing it is andwhat pisses me off is I cut my
hair a little while ago it'sbeen a couple weeks now and I'm
still finding my balls of longblonde hair on my laundry when I
(40:58):
take them out of the dryer andI'm like this is unnecessary.
SPEAKER_41 (41:02):
It's completely unnecessary.
I suppose we we probablyshouldn't be telling men this
stuff should we I mean you knowwe recognize that our hair is
thinning but we don't want youto recognize that our hair is
thinning well maybe if they getthe you know information they
can they can give us less stressexactly they can like not bring
it up like you have theinformation okay shit's
(41:24):
happening don't bring it up sothey say that there's some
topical drugs out there thathelp and are we talking about
the hairspray in a can is thatwhat's what was that called I
don't remember but it was youremember Dr.
SPEAKER_24 (41:38):
Domspray but it was colored why would I know?
Because you're the one with theshining head we're not sure if
you tried it.
No brogaine about the actuallike you shake the can up it's
like literal spray paint andthen they would spray their hair
and so that the the part intheir hair would oh it's and
(42:00):
it's not even the same person inthe before and after photos.
SPEAKER_41 (42:03):
It's like really that's really funny.
Yeah so but the FDA has approvedlike monoxidil which is rogueine
that's all it is and that'savailable and that's been around
a long time.
I mean rogue came out what inlate 90s we want to say it came
out for men it never came outfor women until like the 70s
late 70s.
(42:23):
Yeah and so yeah now it'savailable for women that's crazy
it's been around for that longthere there's also some oral
medications and let's face itthere is no proof of any of this
stuff so let's all calm downabout it.
SPEAKER_24 (42:37):
Um you got just because the FDA approves it
doesn't mean that it works.
SPEAKER_41 (42:42):
Right.
SPEAKER_24 (42:42):
And that's one thing we will be getting into on
another show.
SPEAKER_41 (42:45):
It means that it's not going to work like acid on
your head.
Right.
But it does might not kill you.
It might not kill you it mightnot cause you to grow a third or
fourth arm.
SPEAKER_24 (42:56):
Might not cause crickets to fall out of your
head.
I mean we that's that's the onlything that we can cross our
fingers and hope at this pointbecause yeah.
Yeah so there's some laser lighttreatments so have you heard of
those so I've heard of them forlike other areas of the body for
your face for facial usually ared like facial or like um hair
(43:19):
removal uh that was Bobbystifling a sneeze um but yeah
they have laser light treatmentbut like really I mean really is
it is that all it takes to toactually fix something it's not
no it's not that's like going inand saying you don't need
liposuction you just need toimmerse your body in this
freezing temperature for 20minutes every three days and
(43:43):
it'll well okay there might be alittle bit of truth to that but
come on now.
SPEAKER_41 (43:47):
Laser lights really microneedling and I've done
microneedling on my face.
I thought that was where theyisn't that where they tattoo no
microne oh no no no that's umI'll come to that in a minute
when I think of what it is uhblade um microblading
microblading but microneedlingis where you and I have the
(44:09):
machine upstairs and you buythese little attachments and
they can have anywhere from 12to 36 little needles in one
little attachment.
And what it does is it goes inand it pulses on your skin and
goes in and out of your skin andyou set the depth based on how
much you want to see a change inyour face.
SPEAKER_24 (44:27):
Okay so what what I'm hearing so far is tattoo
machine.
Okay keep going kinda literallylike a tattoo machine with a
larger needle count on it.
SPEAKER_41 (44:37):
Yeah but it doesn't it you know they're not putting
dye in your skin or anythingwell no but I'm saying just like
the machine yeah what it does isit forces the collagen to come
to the surface of your skin.
Now when you turn 50 60 yearsold forget it folks because you
don't have that collagen anylonger you're not producing it
like these young girls are andthese young guys but um are you
(45:01):
producing anything Bobby I'm notI'm not sure I'm producing
anything at this point.
But that also has been a youknow a a new development that
people are trying for theirhair.
That's crazy.
Well I mean like I said I'vedone the microneedling on my
face and I've done the laser thered laser on my face but again I
(45:22):
don't have any collagen left soI'm kind of just doing it for
recreation.
It's recreational use officer Iswear because I got nothing else
going on so you know I do that.
But um do you know anybody thatlike a woman we won't say men
because men we're pretty used tomen balding and that's no big
(45:43):
deal to us but do you know anywomen that you know have really
severe I mean I know it runs inour family on your side really
bad.
SPEAKER_24 (45:53):
Yeah my mom's hair was really really thick and then
of course when she got older itfell off and your sisters and
stuff it's always once they gotolder it was yeah but otherwise
I mean like I know of a coupleof men that have done like the
hair transplants.
Yeah did that work so I'm gonnatell I'm gonna say no but I'm
(46:16):
not a doctor.
Okay.
Maybe it did work and I'm justlooking at it you know wrong.
Um but it's weird because youknow they take the hair
follicles from other parts ofthe body.
Ouch oh gross like off theirlegs or something like um yeah
and I'm just like is that youknow of course I gotta crack
jokes because that's what I do.
And I'm like is so is that likeback hair or butt hair?
(46:38):
I just want to know what I'mlooking at at this point because
it yeah.
SPEAKER_37 (46:42):
Oh my gosh.
SPEAKER_24 (46:44):
I guess I just I don't see that I grew up with
the whole it's just hair yeahmentality you know I dye it cut
it bleach it lose it whateverit's just hair yeah you know and
I guess that's me so I guess Idon't know.
SPEAKER_41 (46:59):
Remember when uh there were a lot of people a lot
of guys out there who woretoupees did you ever wear a
toupee Dr.
SPEAKER_24 (47:06):
Domain just out of curiosity did you ever wear one
no why would he need one yeahhis luscious head of hair over
here shining in the light of thestudio I lost mine in school oh
you did yeah I I I noticed Inoticed it after I went on a
field trip at school that youlost like that one trip and all
(47:29):
your hair fell out it was wewent to this um trying to think
of the name of the placeChernobyl and went back I can
notice it was thinning that wasan immediate response I grew up
with a friend who actually wasbalding at 16.
Yeah he was almost completelybald by the time he was 18.
SPEAKER_41 (47:47):
Yeah I remember kids in high school that they were
balding and it's that's crazybut like I said I always grew up
with that mentality of it's justhair.
SPEAKER_24 (47:55):
Yeah and I'm not gonna stress about it because
it's just hair.
SPEAKER_41 (48:00):
Yeah yeah there's another you know there's other
vitamins and you know tincturesoils and things like that.
Castor oil is supposed to be onethat is has a little bit of
evidence behind it.
SPEAKER_24 (48:13):
Castor oil has been used for everything laxative
everything.
SPEAKER_41 (48:17):
Make you poop make your hair grow.
It's like morphine but put it inyour belly button to make your
digestive system work better.
It is kind of crazy.
And then biotin of course is thevitamin that kind of helps your
nails and your hair grow but Iremember seeing a guy who had
the hair transplant and it waslike he had little X's on his
(48:40):
head yeah where where they putthe put the new hair phone
stuff.
Yeah and does that like stayforever or does that peel up?
Allegedly no allegedly no I meanhe had had these things put in a
long while back and I thoughtdoes that ever seal up I mean
what's going on I think the hairis supposed to grow over it so
(49:01):
that it you can't see it but I'mnot a hundred percent would you
rather be bald or have thoselittle pockets on your head I
don't know I'd rather see himbald I mean Dr.
Domain shaves his head which Ithink is very attractive yeah
it's kind of a fryer tuck thinggoing on though if he doesn't if
he doesn't shave it it's a wholefryer tuck thing.
(49:22):
I said Bozo the clown at leasthe didn't get one of those
toupees with the magnets thatwere installed under the guy's
skin oh he shut you off he shutyou off oh my goodness he shut
your mic off that's so funny umno I like I do like uh a bald
(49:45):
head I think it's uh attractiveso okay look at him he's just
gloating now but um perms alsoyou know we talked about the
chemical damage um of dyes andstuff because they have ammonias
and peroxides and perm solutionsespecially bleaching yeah and
perm solutions are so alkalineuh they can weaken the hair on
(50:07):
the outer layer and the cuticlesand uh it just really makes it
dry brittle and prone tobreakage and really breakage is
the main problem and we thinkthat it's really just our hair
thinning but um scalp irritationI think I told everybody this
but when oh Lord when we werewhen we were in Georgia we
(50:32):
stayed in our motor home forlike three months waiting for
our house to get done and uh wehave slide outs on it and every
freaking time I was underneathone of the sides I'd come up and
just smack my head so hard andit was just terrible and you
know Dr.
Domain was like should I get youa helmet that's my first thought
(50:54):
you need a helmet at this point.
What happened was I hit it sohard I almost passed out and it
caused me you have no you haveno self-preservation.
I have nothing I got nothingthere's nothing up there and
also it gave me vertigo and ifyou've ever had a bad case of
vertigo it's uh it's horribleit's horrible well anyway since
(51:16):
that time period the where I gotmy and I kept hitting the same
spot yeah it's not evendifferent spots it wasn't it was
like why can't I just hit adifferent spot you know you're
just you're just the epitome ofdoing the same thing over and
over again and expectingdifferent results.
I'm like the poster child forunsafe acts aren't I and to
(51:37):
think that I was a safetydirector I know compliance but
um yeah so anyway so my scalpnow is just it's a mess and my
dermatologist is like oh youmust got hit in the head yeah
like 43 times or dropped as asomething like that.
Probably both but yeahdefinitely um other things
(51:58):
obviously that can cause hairloss are improper applications
or chemical burns that can occurfrom like I said before perms uh
that can damage your hair andpotentially lead to scarring on
the scalp and you know thereason I mean you see a lot of
guys shaving their heads most ofthem don't get a lot of perms
(52:19):
and most of them don't do a lotof hair coloring if you don't
have any of it but um anyway thefrequency of dyeing or perming
your hair uh can causecumulative damage to the scalp.
Well that's just common sensethough ultimately you know I'm
just telling you as an old womanhere if you want to save your
(52:42):
hair girls you might want to uhconsider I don't know maybe not
putting so much chemical on itat this point maybe not using
four cans of aqua nut back inthe 80s to get your hair for
glamour shots ready why are youcalling me out listen I'll just
call me out like that you don'thave a single glamour shot of me
that's all my museum okay youand my sister it was like every
(53:06):
other weekend let's get aglamour shot and then you know
you choke on the hair those myhair was so big oh my god both
of yours it was it was crazyyeah so you look back on some of
those 70s pictures and you go ohwhat happened but anyway I think
that's probably all I've got foruh the losing your hair today's
(53:29):
like uh we'll probably belooking for a new IT person
since Dr.
Domain since we've insulted himas much as we can what's this we
shit this was all you you didyou're see you're bailing on me
now well that's all the insanitywe have for today and we really
do appreciate you joining ushere and we appreciate you going
(53:49):
into year two with us at therabbit hole studio be sure to
follow us uh we look forward tospending time with you each week
please like us and share us andif you have positive feedback or
you have a topic please send itoff to us at boomerandgenxer at
gmail.com hate mail we're stillnot accepting that uh as a
matter of fact it's probablylaying out there somewhere with
(54:11):
my hair spalling out of my wheel53 cans of aqua oh my gosh so
anyway until next week I'm JaneBird I'm Bobby Joy and you're
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