October 14, 2025 • 45 mins
Ever look at a “healthy” label and feel like it’s winking at you? We pull apart the grocery aisle with a candid, funny, and no-sponsors filter, asking why so many American staples get banned or reformulated abroad—and what that says about our food system. From cereals engineered for bliss points to milk treated with synthetic hormones, we unpack how ultra-processed foods took over, why marketing crowned breakfast with a sugar halo, and how phrases like “natural,” “enriched,” “multi-grain,” and “lightly sweetened” hide more than they reveal.
The goal isn’t purity; it’s awareness. If food is either moving you toward health or away from it, small choices matter. Buy local when you can, cook a couple of basics, pick shorter labels, and notice how you feel. We’ll make you laugh, probably roast a few cereals, and leave you with simple ways to cut through noise and eat cleaner without going broke or joyless.
If you learned something or laughed along, follow the show, leave a quick review, and share this episode with a friend who reads labels in the aisle. What’s the most misleading “healthy” claim you’ve seen lately? Tell us on our Facebook page or email Bloomerinjnexture at gmail.com.
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SPEAKER_02 (00:03):
Welcome everyone to today's show, a boomer and a Gen
Xer.
Welcome to a bar coming to youfrom the Rabbit Hole Studio,
where you, as our faithfullisteners, will experience some
wit and wisdom, some smartassery, and a mother and
daughter questioning, are weeven related?
My name is Bobby Joy, and myco-host is my mom Jane.
(00:23):
And we're here to entertain youuh for season two.
Yay!
SPEAKER_03 (00:28):
Season two.
SPEAKER_02 (00:29):
We're so excited.
I say faithful, faithfullisteners, but you know, I also
mean the ones that just nowfound us.
So welcome.
We're happy about to the chaos.
SPEAKER_03 (00:39):
Yeah, pass us on.
SPEAKER_02 (00:40):
We uh just so everybody knows we're not
sponsored, so we can saywhatever the hell we want.
That's right, mate.
Let her go, let her go.
We're also not doctors, lawyers,um we're not professionals,
yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (00:55):
Most times I can't even speak.
Most times we can't find ourpasswords that's all right.
So listen at your owndiscretion.
Listen at your own risk.
That's all I'm saying.
So, how's things going, Bobby?
SPEAKER_02 (01:07):
They're going pretty good.
And I know you're gonna be like,what are you drinking down
there?
What are you drinking downthere?
SPEAKER_03 (01:13):
Because she's always got something.
SPEAKER_02 (01:15):
Well, right now I have like three drinks in front
of me, but listen, none of themare alcohol today.
That's problematic.
None of them are alcohol today.
Although, honestly, afterlooking at some of these, I
would almost prefer the alcohol.
Maybe it would be healthier forme to just do cocaine at this
point rather than an energydrink.
SPEAKER_03 (01:35):
Well, you know, those monster drinks, I'm just
gonna tell you.
Look, they have B vitamins.
SPEAKER_02 (01:40):
Oh, which I'm assuming are um bitch vitamins.
It's something called taurine.
I don't know what that does, butlisten, they put it on the top
of the can.
It's gotta be good.
SPEAKER_03 (01:53):
It's gotta be good.
It's gotta be good.
SPEAKER_02 (01:54):
Is it number one?
Is it number one on the list?
It's literally right front andcenter.
Taurine.
No idea.
I don't know what that means.
But uh the list of ingredientssure tells me that uh I'm not
seeing taurine.
I'm not seeing taurine.
SPEAKER_03 (02:08):
You won't be on the show next week.
Oh, R.I.P.
SPEAKER_02 (02:13):
Hey, so what is our topic today, Bob?
So our topic today is uh one ofmom's favorite topics to talk
about.
We're gonna talk about some umwhat is it, processed food,
banned foods.
Yes.
Literally the shit we eat inAmerica versus the good stuff
that everybody else has.
(02:33):
That's right.
SPEAKER_03 (02:34):
We're gonna talk about why you're fat, why you're
not healthy, and why you'redying of food why you're fat.
SPEAKER_02 (02:40):
Because I'm upstairs earlier.
And I'm like, look, I know I'mfat.
Like, I know that I've got atleast a good 30 pounds that I
could just drop and I would becompletely healthy.
But here's the thing I know I'mfat.
I know I'm fat.
Okay, I can call McDonald's onthe way here because you ate at
McDonald's.
It was twofold.
(03:01):
I was hungry and I also need topoop.
SPEAKER_03 (03:09):
It's gonna take care of both.
You can tell, listeners, that wereally don't care what we say,
and we'll just say what we wantto say.
But I'm just shocked that youyou eat at McDonald's.
SPEAKER_01 (03:20):
At the same time, what like you're eating a big
man sitting on the throne.
SPEAKER_02 (03:25):
Sometimes.
Oh, tell me it's not true.
No, we did the whole episode oncleanliness and bathroom.
SPEAKER_01 (03:32):
No, you can't eat while you're on the toilet.
SPEAKER_02 (03:34):
No, you can't eat while you're on a toilet.
Like I said, a shower beer isfine, but if you're putting a
Subway sandwich next to yourtoilet, I want nothing to do
with you for the next 500 years.
SPEAKER_03 (03:45):
Yeah, that's uh that's a bad thing.
So we uh talked this past yearto my grandson uh about celiac
disease, and I have celiac, anduh we also talked about a little
bit about processed food.
And I've been reading a bookthat a girlfriend of mine gave
to me to read.
SPEAKER_02 (04:05):
She's been reading a book, folks.
I have she has a new master'sdegree, and it came from one
little book.
SPEAKER_03 (04:13):
I think I'm an expert now.
It's as useless as your otherones.
Bobby, see, why do you have tobe so hurtful in cutting?
SPEAKER_02 (04:24):
Ma'am, you have how many masters, and you're asking
if places or countries orcontinents.
Let's go.
SPEAKER_03 (04:30):
Stop it.
I I came to the conclusion I waswrong without you.
Anyway, so you read a book.
I read a book, and it's calledUltra Processed People.
And a girlfriend of mine gave itto me to read, and she said to
me, and this is by Chris VanTulliken, and she said to me, my
girlfriend did, she said, onceyou read that book, you're never
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gonna think of food the same wayagain.
You're never gonna look at agrocery store the same way
again.
Now, listen, I'm not ignorantabout food, right?
Right.
Uh we have the grandson who islike uh an expert when it comes
to processed food, naturalfoods, foods that you should
eat, foods that cause diseases,foods that heal you.
(05:12):
And he has always said what youput in your mouth, what you eat
is either uh uh oh my god, fuel.
It's either fuel.
No, that's not what he says.
I can't remember what he saidnow.
But anyway, he's he would sayit's either medicine to your
body or it's a toxin.
One or the other.
There's no in between.
So either you're putting thefood in your body to be a
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medicine so that you can stayalive, or you're putting it in
your body and it's gonna be atoxin in your body.
And that's basically what he hassaid.
And so this book kind of uh, ifyou haven't read this book, I
gotta tell you, there's a lot ofstudies that it refers to.
You know me.
I gotta go look at the studies.
I'm not gonna listen to localradio and TV to find out this
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information.
I'm gonna go look at thestudies.
And they've been out there sincethe 1960s and 1970s that talk
about manufacturing of food.
Right.
And what the manufacturers, ofcourse, the industry is doing to
us and what the government isdoing to us uh with the uh
products that they put into ourfood.
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And the fact of the matter is,is we think we've got all these
regulations that protect us.
They're not protecting us, guesswho they're protecting?
They're protecting protectingthe um companies, the industry.
Yeah, yeah.
Because those guys want to makemoney, and of course, the
government wants these companiesto make money.
And so, even though there areregulations out there, and we've
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talked about the book of uh thatthe government has on how many
rat hairs you can have in tuna.
Oh, yeah, how many bug eggs.
SPEAKER_02 (06:48):
I can't remember either, but how many bug eggs
you can have in jelly, yeah.
How many human parts you canhave in a can of beans, right?
Right.
Before it's it has all of that.
SPEAKER_03 (06:57):
Yeah, and it's true that that book does exist.
I pulled the book up, and we cancertainly uh provide you the
link uh on the case.
SPEAKER_02 (07:04):
That's a good late night read in October, is it is
it is kind of fun.
SPEAKER_03 (07:09):
It is actually kind of fun because you sit there in
disbelief and read this stuffthat the government allows to go
through for these industries.
SPEAKER_01 (07:16):
Can I tell you why they came up with those
standards?
SPEAKER_03 (07:18):
You know, it doesn't.
I mean, somebody found a big toeand a can of pork and beans or
no, because it's like you know,it's like a horse made by
committee that looks like youknow a tin can.
So, you know, why even think ofthat?
What do you mean?
SPEAKER_01 (07:31):
Why would you even come up with some some arbitrary
thing that you'd find in food?
Because why would you find ahuman body part of it?
Because people fall in machines.
Well, that's what I'm saying.
So some somewhere it came up,right?
SPEAKER_03 (07:44):
So it came like multiple times, multiple times
you can only have so manytoenails in your lasagna or
something.
SPEAKER_01 (07:52):
I don't know what it is.
SPEAKER_02 (07:53):
I mean, you know, you're it's kind of like the
warning labels.
You know, somebody had to havedone that at least once
somewhere, and now there's awarning label saying do not do
this when you would never thinkto do it in your wall
distractor.
SPEAKER_01 (08:04):
But isn't that a good thing though that we have
standards like that?
No.
Well, for food.
Yeah, wait, wait.
Yeah, for food.
SPEAKER_02 (08:10):
Like I warning labels, we need to pull them all
off.
SPEAKER_01 (08:12):
You can only have too many rabbit turds, so many
rabbit turds in your peanutbutter or something like that.
SPEAKER_03 (08:19):
Yeah.
No, I get it.
No, I understand why we wouldhave those.
The problem is they're driven byoutside industry.
They're not really driven byanybody who wants to care for us
and take care of us.
It's kind of like saying that adoctor really wants to save you.
No, they don't.
They want to pass on themedicine that they're getting a
kickback on from thepharmaceuticals.
SPEAKER_01 (08:39):
I don't think that's true.
SPEAKER_03 (08:40):
It is true.
Oh, come on.
I I truly believe it.
Really?
SPEAKER_01 (08:43):
You don't think you don't think there's an honorable
doctor out there that wants tosave your life.
It's gone through all that.
All that time.
SPEAKER_03 (08:50):
I think that they start out that way.
I think they do.
I think there is an honorabledoctor out there, but I'm not
sure.
Some of them stay that way.
I also think that a pill ormedicine is a quick ticket, it's
a quick fix.
SPEAKER_01 (09:02):
Oh, I don't doubt that.
SPEAKER_03 (09:03):
And so I guess that's a good idea.
SPEAKER_01 (09:04):
Okay, but I still think there's people out there
that want that that want otherpeople to live.
SPEAKER_02 (09:09):
Well, I'm not saying that there aren't, but a lot of
times they are not fully told byyou know certain things that,
like, listen, this is a new kindof chemo.
It's gonna make your pay, youknow, you only have to do it
three times instead of sixtimes.
But they're not telling thatdoctor that there's a higher
percentage of death rate,there's a higher percentage of,
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you know, bones breaking andthings like that, you know, that
would be side effects for.
I think the doctors go in blind.
I think there are greedydoctors, but I think a lot of
them go in with the idea of Iwant to help people, because
usually doctor cop things likethat, they come from trauma.
So they had somebody die on themthat they couldn't help, type of
thing.
I want to go in helping people,but they're either blinded by
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the companies who don't have todisclose certain things, or
they're driven by money.
Money.
SPEAKER_03 (10:00):
But you have to also realize that.
SPEAKER_01 (10:02):
Well, what about the factor of the patient?
SPEAKER_03 (10:05):
What about the factor of the patient?
SPEAKER_01 (10:06):
Well, I think that comes into play.
There's the money aspect to it.
We all know what the bottom lineis.
It's the bottom line.
But then what about the patient?
The patient that's adamant.
Oh, I'm sorry, I just don't havethe willpower to stop shoving
Twinkies in my head.
Give me some kind of drug.
SPEAKER_03 (10:21):
That's another point.
That's another point.
SPEAKER_01 (10:24):
And so we have to look at the doctor saying, stop
putting food in your hole.
They're gonna do these pills andthen they try and lose weight
that way.
Right.
Is it healthy?
Probably not.
SPEAKER_03 (10:35):
Okay, okay, and I get your point there, Dr.
Domain, but I'm just gonna saythis.
I think that there are a lot ofdoctors out there that do go in,
like Bobby said, wanting to behelpful, wanting to do their
duty to society.
But technology changes soquickly, right?
Discoveries of diseases changeso quickly.
How would you ever expect the adoctor to keep up on every
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single thing out there?
So a lot of times medication isa quick fix.
Which medication are you gonnapromote?
I'm gonna promote the one thatgives me the biggest kickback.
That's what I'm gonna do, andthat's how I feel.
That's me personally.
Now, I don't think that anybodycan keep up with everything
that's that's you know beingdiscovered today.
I just really don't.
(11:20):
And so a lot of times you talkto your doctor about stuff.
I've talked to my doctor aboutuh drugs, and she'll go, Oh, I'm
not familiar with that one.
What you know, and and so theyhave to research it too.
Think about what they'd have togo through to keep up with all
of that.
But let's talk about what youjust mentioned.
SPEAKER_02 (11:38):
I was gonna say, I zoned the hell out for a minute.
SPEAKER_01 (11:40):
Okay, oh, shut up, you go you shut you weren't
zoning out when I was Oh mygosh.
Stay focused on me if I juststay focused on you.
SPEAKER_03 (11:51):
You are so mean to me.
SPEAKER_01 (11:52):
We're gonna talk about food and click and noise
here in the background.
SPEAKER_03 (11:55):
We're gonna talk about food because you know,
people wonder why cancer ratesare so high.
They wonder why disease ratesare so high, they wonder why we
are so fat, they wonder whywe're so lethargic, um, why we
have more people with dementiatoday or Alzheimer's today than
ever in history.
(12:15):
And a lot of times, and and I'mgonna go back to these studies
that I read uh that werereferenced in this book back in
the 60s and 70s, is you know,there were a lot of people that
were pushing, oh, you need totake fat out of the food.
Well, once you take fat out ofthe food, guess what?
You gotta put something else inthere, right?
Right.
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And a lot of times, uh, youknow, or you have to take uh
sugar out of the food.
Right.
Well, if you take the sugar out,you gotta put something
artificial in.
Yeah.
And the other thing it'sartificial, it's chemical.
It's chemical, and we're gonnatalk a little bit about that
because you know, it's in foodadditives, it's in processed
foods, and it's in other foods.
But um, you know, all of thatstuff, I I gotta be honest with
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you.
We've I have been.
Dr.
Domain probably is just goingalong with me to keep me quiet.
But but I've been trying to getus off of as much processed food
as we can now.
You can't get off of processedfood, let's face it.
Not in America, not in America,no.
Um, but you know, there'ssynthetics that are being added
to foods.
Um, there's some discoveriesthat we made when we started
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looking at this, aren't there,Bobby?
SPEAKER_02 (13:24):
Yeah, a lot of them was um what foods were banned in
other countries.
And like Fruit Loops.
Okay, first of all, Fruit Loops.
Fruit loops, like, and then yousaid you had said something.
I said something about littleDebbie being banned.
And you were so sad.
And I was sad, and you werelike, So Twinkies?
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And I was like, Well, I don'tknow, because that's hostess,
that's not little Debbie.
And I scrolled down a little bitmore.
By God, there was freakingTwinkies right there.
SPEAKER_03 (13:52):
Oh my gosh, so they banned those in other countries.
SPEAKER_02 (13:54):
Yep, things like things like Mountain Dew.
Um most of them are Europeancountries, most of them are the
European Union, but there areother countries like Japan,
Australia, um, New Zealand,Canada, all of those like milk.
You know, we had talked aboutthe fact the fact that you um
drink raw milk on the farm,yeah.
(14:16):
And US milk is banned inAustralia, New Zealand, Canada,
Japan, and the European Union.
SPEAKER_03 (14:23):
Guess where we first got hooked on raw milk?
Uh New Zealand when we werethere.
Oh, yeah, they had dispensariesright there at the farm
alongside the road.
It was cool, it's the coolestthing.
SPEAKER_02 (14:35):
Yeah, so it's basically because we give our
cows a synthetic syntheticman-made hormone.
Right.
And it's called uh RBGH.
So it increases milk production.
Yep.
That's not allowed over there.
SPEAKER_03 (14:50):
So when we were researching whether we wanted to
buy raw milk, that was one ofthe things that we had found
out.
SPEAKER_01 (14:56):
So just and just yesterday we were out with your
buddy at uh it doesn't matter.
We were out with her friend andwe were talking about her recent
trip to Dublin.
SPEAKER_03 (15:07):
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (15:09):
The beer, Dublin, Ireland.
Talking about the beer.
Oh, did you go to Guinness?
You know, yeah, yeah, yeah.
It went to Guinness and shementioned the beer tastes a lot
better.
Yeah, she's sorry.
They don't put all thepreservatives and stuff by the
time it gets here.
Guinness does taste different.
Just little things like that.
SPEAKER_03 (15:26):
Yeah, absolutely.
And the reason I wanted to talkabout this today, after reading
that book, I gotta be honestwith you, the friend that gave
me the book to read, she'sabsolutely right.
I do look at everythingdifferently now.
And I do want to make thingsmyself, or I do want to, you
know, I've been going to myfriends' houses to get apples
and pears and things like that.
A lot of this is self-inflicted.
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It's kind of like, you know,somebody smokes and then they
get cancer and they go, Well,you know, nobody's willing to
help me, you know, and why isn'tthis medicine working?
Well, why are you putting acancer stick to your face?
What's going on?
I mean, stop it.
But a lot of it isself-inflicted because a lot of
the cancers, a lot of thediseases, and uh a lot of the
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things that change our bodybehavior or excuse me, our
mental behaviors have to do withhow our food is processed.
And a lot of people think thereason we're fat is because
we've got we eat fat food.
Fats are good for our body,right?
Fats are good for our body.
SPEAKER_02 (16:24):
Correct.
Fats are free.
Absolutely.
And well, you had said somethingabout, you know, in America, we
don't have like unprocessedfood.
So you go to the grocery store,this is an example.
Um, our apples here in America,they're banned in the European
Union, right?
And why is that?
Because they are actuallytreated with DPA, which keeps
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them from turning brown and howthey look nice and shiny in the
store and stuff like that.
Freaking apples.
Apples are banned in othercountries that come from our
country because we can't get ourshit together.
SPEAKER_03 (16:58):
And here's the other thing I see people who uh have
said, Oh, I buy only organic.
SPEAKER_02 (17:04):
Uh or I buy I buy only free-range chicken eggs
that have been fed organic food.
It's like you realize thosefree-range chicken eggs that
have only been fed organic foodmeans that they run in the
backyard and eat bugs all day.
SPEAKER_03 (17:22):
That's all it means.
And they can process them.
And I'm not worried about that,but uh, I will say this you
know, we used to be beefproducers and we did uh we did
uh all you know corn fed beef.
Yeah.
Angus and Angus, yeah.
And we did not give any hormonesor anything like that to any of
our cattle, and we had so manypeople, as a matter of fact, we
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would ship to I think it was NewYork because this guy contacted
us and said, Hey, listen, sincemy daughter's been eating this
meat, she hasn't had theproblems with whatever it was
she had.
I don't even remember now.
And there's so many meds thatcattle are given, you know, and
the problem is is when you see alabel that says this was
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organically grown, doesn'tnecessarily mean it was
organically grown.
Sorry, folks.
Right.
Because the seed might have beenorganic, but the but the
pesticides that were put on itaren't.
Correct.
And the herbicides that were puton it aren't.
And so, you know, yeah, it mayhave been organic when it
started, uh, but it's not by thetime it gets to you, and you all
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think it is, it's not.
SPEAKER_02 (18:30):
And you go other places and you see, you know, if
you're able to see theingredients on these foods, even
something simple as bread andtortillas.
You go to another country, breadand tortillas, they're made with
simple products, they're madewith pure products.
You go to the grocery store andit's like, oh, well, it's got
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corn glucose and you know, thiscoloring and that it's like why?
SPEAKER_03 (18:56):
Yeah, why?
You know, I've heard people sayin Italy, even though I have
celiac, I can eat the bread overthere.
Right.
Yeah, because it's not processedlike it is not making it.
But why is that happening?
Why is it that we don't have thesame standards as another
country?
I don't have any idea.
I have no idea.
But um, one of the things that Ilooked up, and this was
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interesting to me, I hope it isto our listeners, is how many
petroleum products are in ourfoods.
SPEAKER_00 (19:24):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (19:24):
So petroleum is a hydro uh carbon mixture and it's
found in crude oil, in caseanybody doesn't know that.
And its products are used invarious industries, including
the production of food.
Yes.
Some of the foods that contain apetroleum derivative uh are food
additives, like guess what?
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Artificial food dyes, whatcolors?
Uh red 40.
SPEAKER_02 (19:51):
Yes.
SPEAKER_00 (19:52):
How'd you know that?
SPEAKER_02 (19:53):
I well, red 40 because on daddy daycare, the
little girl is like, I'mallergic to red 40, yellow dye
number three.
SPEAKER_03 (20:02):
It's actually yellow dye number five.
SPEAKER_02 (20:04):
Okay, yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (20:05):
That was from Die Hard, I think.
SPEAKER_02 (20:06):
No, it was from Daddy Daycare.
SPEAKER_01 (20:07):
No, no, but there was another one where where the
cop was there and he's eatingTwinkie, and he's like,
everything a boy growing boyneeds, yellow dye number five.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (20:15):
So another one that is made from petroleum products.
And again, we are not legalpeople.
We just research stuff, we lookat it, we can read, we can add,
we can carry the one, we can doall of that.
Um, flavorings, vanilla.
Yeah, vanilla is one of the mostwhat do I want to say?
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Used?
No, not most used, but it's themost uh bootlegged product.
And another one, which um Dr.
Domain turned me on to, wasmaple syrup.
Yeah, it's real maple syrup.
Real maple syrup.
So the stores will tell you it'sreal maple syrup.
Yeah, bullshit, but it is no,and so there may be a teeny tiny
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little bit of maple syrup that'sreal in there, but it's not all
100% pure.
Right.
It's not Canadian, eh?
You know, obvious, yeah.
Uh obviously preservatives, someprocessed foods like fast foods,
and oh man, I'm gonna jump onyou on this because you had told
me that you went to McDonald'sbefore you came here.
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There's no chicken in thoseMcNuggets.
SPEAKER_02 (21:22):
I didn't eat chicken McNuggets.
I ate the beefless hamburgers.
You did not.
Yeah, I mean, they don't have alot of beef in them.
It's mostly cornmeal.
I was gonna say, what's in thosebeefless cornmeal, sugar in the
buns?
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (21:40):
Don't they do like the fake meat?
Like some of those fast foods.
SPEAKER_02 (21:44):
Oh, like the veggie burger.
Veggie burger or something likethat.
Why would I ever pay for that?
I don't know.
I could just go eat grass in mylawn.
SPEAKER_03 (21:51):
But even French fries uh are quite processed and
they have petro uh in them.
Baked goods like cookies andcakes, candy and chips.
I know Bobby's down there justcrying her eyes out.
But you know, and ice cream, icecream.
I don't like ice cream.
SPEAKER_01 (22:07):
Have you ever seen the roll with ice cream?
What's wrong with it?
SPEAKER_03 (22:10):
What if it's homemade ice cream?
Different.
SPEAKER_01 (22:12):
She's trying to start a fight.
SPEAKER_03 (22:14):
I am gonna start a fight because you know, the ice
cream sandwiches, have you seenthe experiments where they put
them out in the sun and theydon't melt for days?
SPEAKER_01 (22:20):
No, we're talking about real ice cream, nothing.
Really?
Because I get an ice creamsandwich and it's melted halfway
to my car.
It's like ice cream and sugar.
It's all like actual ice cream.
SPEAKER_03 (22:30):
Oh, you guys.
SPEAKER_02 (22:31):
Like dad used to make in the in the kitchen.
SPEAKER_03 (22:34):
Here's another thing that I learned about because my
friend Saud, who is from um uhnot Jordan.
SPEAKER_02 (22:41):
I like how you keep bringing up the one friend that
you're gonna do.
SPEAKER_03 (22:43):
He's from Palestine.
I have friends.
SPEAKER_02 (22:44):
You have a friend?
No, I have friends.
That's so nice for you.
I love that freedom.
SPEAKER_03 (22:48):
With you, you can drop the S, but not with me.
I have an S on the end.
I have friends.
Anyway, his family owns an oliveranch or olive uh farm.
And he could it be a ranch or afarm?
I think it would be a farm.
SPEAKER_02 (23:02):
I think it would be a farm.
SPEAKER_03 (23:03):
Anyway, he goes over every year to help with harvest.
Oh, over in Palestine.
Yeah, I just said Palestine.
SPEAKER_02 (23:10):
Okay.
SPEAKER_03 (23:11):
Oh my goodness.
I was stuck on the olive farm.
SPEAKER_02 (23:14):
No, I was stuck on the olive.
Why would it be an olive ranch?
What are you hurting them out inthe fields?
I just threw that out there.
Why do you why do you thinkthat's it?
Because I went that way.
SPEAKER_03 (23:24):
Get off my junk.
Anyway, uh, olive oil, some ofthose brands have petroleum
base.
And I learned a lot from himbecause he when he goes over
there to help, he sends a barrelof olive oil from his family's
farm back to the United States,and it tastes totally different.
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He'll give me some and totallydifferent.
SPEAKER_02 (23:47):
And so he could like he could sneak that stuff in the
country, sell it as pure.
I mean, the dude would makemillions.
Well, anyway, he's I'm notcondoning any type of thing.
SPEAKER_03 (23:58):
Maybe you can talk to him about that black market
deal.
SPEAKER_02 (24:00):
Oh, he's gonna be on the corner.
She's over there dollars anddollars.
I know you want some of thisoil, man.
SPEAKER_03 (24:06):
Um, wax-coated fruits and vegetables.
The wax can be petroleum-based,and then this is gonna blow poor
Dr.
Domaine out of the water.
Oh no.
Certain types of chocolate.
No, milk chocolate.
They have the coating, the waxcoating.
SPEAKER_01 (24:21):
Oh, yeah, that's probably I I noticed that.
I eat certain chocolate, like itgives you like this waxy taste
in your mouth or something likethat.
SPEAKER_02 (24:29):
Right, I've noticed that on certain brands.
In certain foods, yeah.
Yeah, so then again, I chew onwax bottles.
SPEAKER_01 (24:34):
Yeah, little wax bottles.
SPEAKER_02 (24:36):
Yeah, I chewed.
SPEAKER_01 (24:36):
Don't you eat the whole thing?
SPEAKER_02 (24:37):
Like, yeah, you chew it up as gum.
SPEAKER_01 (24:39):
You just eat the whole thing, don't you?
SPEAKER_03 (24:40):
You don't swallow that.
SPEAKER_02 (24:41):
No, you drink the you drink the stuff and then you
chew on the wax bottle like it'sa piece of gum.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (24:46):
We used to get them as kids.
Yeah, but you don't swallowthat.
SPEAKER_00 (24:50):
Oh.
SPEAKER_02 (24:50):
Well, he's swallowing that.
The instructions were unclear.
SPEAKER_01 (24:54):
That might be instructions back then.
SPEAKER_03 (24:57):
That might be the circumference.
SPEAKER_01 (24:58):
There were just a bunch of a barrel.
You walk by at the end of theday.
SPEAKER_03 (25:01):
There weren't even tags on it.
You literally just stuck yourgreasy little hand in it.
Yeah.
There were so many foods that weused to get.
There's no tags.
There were used to never havebeen any best buy or due dates
on anything.
SPEAKER_02 (25:14):
Yeah, and I mean, like my generation, especially,
grew up on the red dye number 40and stuff like that.
Look what happened.
They call bitch abouteverything.
SPEAKER_01 (25:25):
Like the nutritional labels, those weren't there.
And there's a lot of things.
SPEAKER_03 (25:29):
There's a lot of things that have changed.
SPEAKER_02 (25:30):
Well, no, you go to the candy store, they have the
penny candy.
I mean, it's in the open.
What are you gonna put a labelon each?
No, you just reach in and getsome.
SPEAKER_03 (25:39):
So there's uh there's a word of advice out
there that says, listen, if youcan't pronounce the word on your
ingredients list, don't put itin your body.
SPEAKER_01 (25:47):
Well, what if you're really good at pronouncing
stuff?
SPEAKER_02 (25:50):
But what if you're really bad at pronouncing stuff?
SPEAKER_01 (25:52):
Oh, then you're gonna starve.
SPEAKER_02 (25:54):
Like, what if what okay?
Like, what if you're like, oh mygod, like a king hydrogen
dioxide in it.
I'm going to digest dioxide.
Like, what if you have one ofthose one of those people that
doesn't actually know whatthings are?
They should probably look atthey should probably Google it.
SPEAKER_00 (26:11):
Yeah, they probably don't want to eat it.
SPEAKER_03 (26:14):
I don't know.
But there are some also not justthe ingredients on your
products, because let me saythis.
I did discover this also.
She discovered it.
When somebody says, hey, thishas vitamin C, vitamin D,
vitamin whatever, taurine.
It can have taurine.
Whatever that is.
We don't know what that is.
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Um it only has to have a minuteamount in order for them to put
it on the label.
So again, remember that justbecause let's say apples have a
certain vitamin in them, if youbuy applesauce or apple juice, a
lot of those are are extractedout of that product and then
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they put it back in in a fakeway.
Right.
When they put it back in in afake way, unfortunately, you use
you lose your vitamin uh abilityon you know to absorb the
vitamins from that because it'snot there any longer.
SPEAKER_01 (27:09):
Are you reading everything on the can?
SPEAKER_03 (27:11):
So let's see.
SPEAKER_02 (27:11):
She's down there with a monster drink.
SPEAKER_01 (27:14):
This is a popular energy drink.
Oh, God.
SPEAKER_02 (27:16):
Well, this one actually, this is the Amsterdam
version, so this is uh import.
So uh it gives me 580% of mydaily value for B12 vitamin.
SPEAKER_03 (27:28):
Yeah, okay.
SPEAKER_02 (27:30):
That's insane.
You gotta that's what is that?
There's no way.
There's no way.
What is that exactly?
SPEAKER_01 (27:36):
Doesn't vitamin B12 like give you a little energy
boost?
SPEAKER_02 (27:40):
So yeah, it does give you people who are anemic
and stuff like that, they haveto get B12 shots.
SPEAKER_03 (27:44):
But here's the other thing.
I just want to go back to what Ijust said.
Just because they put it backinto the product doesn't mean
your body's gonna absorb it.
Well, that's what I'm saying.
It's gotta be like completelymanufactured.
Yeah, just because it's good,you know, just sweet potatoes
are good for you, right?
SPEAKER_02 (27:59):
I don't know.
SPEAKER_03 (28:00):
They are very good.
A sweet potato's never eaten asweet potato in her life.
SPEAKER_02 (28:11):
I had one sweet potato French fry one time and
it was one of the time.
I couldn't do it.
SPEAKER_00 (28:16):
It was like dip toes out of that.
SPEAKER_02 (28:18):
What the hell is that?
SPEAKER_03 (28:20):
But anyway, sweet potatoes are really good for
you.
But once it's been processed andthey extract the good stuff out
of that sweet potato to put iton the market so that it is has
a shelf life, so that it's gotsome type of um, you know, it
meets the standards for theUnited States.
Just because they put thosevitamins back in doesn't mean
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your body can absorb thosevitamins.
And so I just want to talk aboutsome words that y'all need to
pay attention to.
Y'all.
Y'all.
Y'all.
Anytime you see the wordenriched, it's bullshit.
It means you're eating basicallyplastic.
Yeah.
Because enriched means we juststrip that food of everything it
had and we put some fabricatedthing back into the food.
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Anytime you see enriched, wheredo you see that most?
SPEAKER_02 (29:08):
Uh like when you have like the enriched flour,
yes, enriched flour, yeah,pastas, yeah, um, cereals, yeah,
um, breads, breads, yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (29:18):
Anytime you see enriched, you're just shoving
crap in your body.
That's all you're doing is justshoving crap in your body.
So also the word natural, theFDA has no res no strict
definition of what natural is,other than it should not contain
anything that's artificial orsynthetic.
This means that you know, foodhigh in sugar, fat, or salt can
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still be natural labelednatural.
SPEAKER_02 (29:42):
Yeah, because it's natural sugar, it's natural fat.
SPEAKER_03 (29:45):
Yep, yeah, yep.
Made with real fruit.
SPEAKER_02 (29:49):
Okay, just because it's made with real fruit, they
probably just like ran waterover the real fruit and then
used it in the production.
SPEAKER_03 (29:56):
You're on the right track.
SPEAKER_02 (29:58):
That's what I would do.
SPEAKER_03 (29:59):
The product can clean.
This even if it contains only avery small amount of actual
fruit.
So when it says made with realfruit, they could have taken
their fingertip and put that inthere.
SPEAKER_02 (30:10):
And that's I mean, yeah, they basically will like
run it over a real fruit withyou know 50,000 other gallons of
whatever.
And this is especially true withum juice for little kids.
It is, yeah.
And they want to tell real fruitjuice, and then you look on the
side and it says contains onepercent fruit juice.
SPEAKER_03 (30:30):
Right.
And so the bulk of the flavorcomes from that added sugars or
added artificial ingredients.
Um, another one is multi-grainor made with whole grains.
Those terms.
So, have you ever seen wheatbread?
SPEAKER_02 (30:47):
Yes, I've seen wheat bread in my life.
SPEAKER_03 (30:49):
I know, but people go, Oh, make sure that you get
wheat bread.
Isn't all bread made with wheat?
SPEAKER_02 (30:55):
Okay, well, and just because it says wheat bread
doesn't mean that it's healthierthan the white bread because a
lot of it is super ultraprocessed.
Right.
SPEAKER_03 (31:03):
And it doesn't say whole wheat.
Right.
It says wheat.
Well, all bread is made ofwheat.
Okay, whether it's brown, white,I don't care what color it is,
is made of wheat.
So those terms don't guarantee aproduct is rich in any type of
fiber or nutrient.
SPEAKER_02 (31:17):
Right.
SPEAKER_03 (31:17):
Um, a multi-grain product can simply contain a mix
of, I don't know, refined grainsmade with some type of whole
grain.
SPEAKER_02 (31:26):
Yeah, like two or more grains.
Right.
It's a mixed grain.
SPEAKER_03 (31:29):
It's like but it doesn't mean that they're, you
know, doesn't mean it's anybetter for you than Popeye's
chicken biscuits.
It doesn't mean that it's ahundred percent whole green.
What do you think lightlysweetened means?
SPEAKER_02 (31:43):
Define lightly.
SPEAKER_03 (31:44):
Yeah, no kidding.
SPEAKER_02 (31:46):
Because for you it'd be different than me.
Oh, yeah.
For me, it would be like a lotmore sweetened than for you.
SPEAKER_03 (31:52):
So what's interesting about that phrase is
it is totally unregulated andit's very misleading.
SPEAKER_02 (31:59):
And there's a lot of stuff that these people are
putting on this food that youknow you would assume that the
FDA would have some sort ofsomething at bare minimum, so
that they, you know, you can'tput whole wheat on this unless
you actually use only wholewheat and not type of thing.
And it's like, what are youdoing?
SPEAKER_03 (32:19):
Again, we get back to the industry, right?
Yeah, we get back to who'smaking money off of our health.
SPEAKER_02 (32:25):
Right.
SPEAKER_03 (32:25):
And I am a firm believer that, you know, what
you put in your body, a lot ofthat is self-inflicted.
And so if you're gonna eat thiscrap and then you get cancer, or
you're gonna eat this crap andnow you're a diabetic, or you
have Alzheimer's or whatever,and people go, Nobody's helping
me, this medicine's not helpingme, poor, poor me.
You freaking did it to yourself.
(32:47):
And I'm just gonna be mean aboutsaying because we're still
researching.
Some cancers are hereditary.
I said Alzheimer's, I know youdid.
I said cancer.
Yeah, but some cancers arehereditary, right?
Because I've got the brecogeninethat you do that runs in my
family.
Yeah, and so you know, thepossibility or the probability
of me having cancer is very,very high, or getting cancer is
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very, very high.
But there are other cancers,there are other diseases that
you can avoid yourself.
SPEAKER_02 (33:16):
Yeah, mostly.
SPEAKER_03 (33:17):
Now, mostly, yeah, it is true.
SPEAKER_02 (33:19):
Yeah, I didn't say it wasn't, I just said most I
thought I was gonna have to geta saddle on because you were
gonna jump on my back aboutgoing back to the anyways.
Going back to the what?
Wait a minute.
I want to know what we're goingback to.
Oh, and one of the the listenershave to go back on one of the
other shows about how we had anargument about this earlier,
too.
SPEAKER_03 (33:39):
So what was it?
I don't even remember I came inwith you.
Oh, but you know we argued aboutit.
Yeah, I do you don't remember,but okay.
SPEAKER_02 (33:47):
Well, that was good information.
SPEAKER_03 (33:48):
Thanks for sharing.
SPEAKER_02 (33:49):
Okay, another one I was just trying to get you away
from the whole doctor thingagain so I didn't zone out.
SPEAKER_03 (33:54):
Anyway, the other one is gluten-free, gluten-free.
Well, a lot of people haveceliac disease, just because
something says gluten-freedoesn't mean you're safe.
Why is that?
SPEAKER_02 (34:03):
Uh, because trace amounts of gluten, yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (34:07):
Yeah, so it may not be a celiac safe environment.
Yeah, because we talked aboutceliac safe restaurants, so just
because it says gluten-freedoesn't mean it's celiac, yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (34:18):
Because it could be made on like the same pizza
cutting board without wiping theflour off, and now they're
touching it with flour on theirhands, things like that, or
pizza dough on their handsthat's not gluten-free, and all
of a sudden now you have thatmajor exposure.
SPEAKER_03 (34:34):
Yeah, yeah, and and I don't think people understand
that.
SPEAKER_02 (34:36):
No.
SPEAKER_03 (34:37):
Um, what do you think superfood really means?
SPEAKER_02 (34:40):
Um, flying chickens.
I don't know.
SPEAKER_03 (34:44):
There's no regulatory or scientific
definition.
SPEAKER_02 (34:46):
Yeah, that's just that just pisses me off because
it's like, don't we have anentire alphabet mafia like place
that does this?
Like the FDA, the USDA, youknow, they tell they always tout
about, and I know it goes backto the corporations and stuff,
but it just pisses me off thatwe have this entire area in our
country that's supposed to bedealing with this shit, and all
(35:08):
they're doing is saying, hey,you can say what you want, but
we're not gonna guaranteeanything.
SPEAKER_03 (35:13):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (35:14):
Like, where are you even here?
SPEAKER_03 (35:15):
With superfoods, um, it used to give a, you know,
kind of like a health halo uh tocertain products, but it really
doesn't guarantee anything.
SPEAKER_02 (35:25):
Yeah, like the it was what was it?
Asae, however you say that.
Usia or us, yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (35:34):
I thought it was Asa.
A-C uh A-C-A-I.
I used to say Ataya, but okay.
SPEAKER_02 (35:42):
Anyways, y'all know what we're talking about.
Okay, but yeah, it's like theytouted that as this big
superfood forever and didn'ttake into account how processed
the items were that this was in.
I mean, you can go, oh, I'mgonna go get it, you know, this
yogurt that has this superfoodin it.
Okay, well, the yogurt's madeout of crap.
(36:02):
Yeah, like literal crap.
Yeah, and it's saying it's asuperfood because it has this
certain thing in it.
SPEAKER_03 (36:08):
So I'm not saying that I am uh processed food free
by any stretch of theimagination.
SPEAKER_02 (36:14):
All I'm saying is it would be a real challenge to be
processed food free completelyin the United States.
SPEAKER_03 (36:20):
I'm just saying anywhere that you can find
farmers markets, anytime you canmake it yourself.
I mean, I'm sitting down hereright now with a Lipton diet
green tea mixed berry drink, andthe list of ingredients on it
are seriously probably an inchand a half long.
SPEAKER_02 (36:42):
I'm literally thinking just alcohol like
liquor is more healthy.
That's what I'm saying.
It's healthier, it's more purefor my body than half the shit
that I drink.
Yeah, I don't know, Bobby.
SPEAKER_03 (36:53):
I you want to do a test on that?
Did you want to test that out?
SPEAKER_02 (36:58):
No, because I really do like my monsters and they
kind of level me out.
SPEAKER_03 (37:01):
So, what other foods do we have to watch out for?
SPEAKER_02 (37:04):
What things um so a big one is breakfast cereal
foods.
Oh, good one.
Breakfast cereal in general.
They have rows and rows.
I mean, like an entire freakingaisle of nothing but breakfast
cereal.
And that includes like oatmeal,um, you know, things like that.
But you're looking at, you know,Japan and the European Union
(37:25):
have banned most of Americanbreakfast cereals.
Yes.
And for good reason.
I mean, you look at them, 90% ofthem literally are dyed so bad
you can't tell where they camefrom in the first place.
They're saying, oh, well, thisis a wheat cereal, this is a
rice cereal.
Yeah, it's got like one minutemilligram of wheat in it, and
then it's covered in sugar, andit's worse than crack for your
(37:48):
kids or even yourself, because Ihave an addiction to cereal.
SPEAKER_03 (37:52):
And it's I was just gonna say, it's very addictive.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (37:56):
You know, there's a lot of people who will have a
bowl of cereal for supper andget up and have another bowl
because they might feel full,but they didn't get that
dopamine kick that they needed.
SPEAKER_03 (38:06):
They didn't get that that digestive, whatever shot of
energy that they needed.
But you know, back in the day,and I was just gonna oh, I was
gonna pull up the date when thishappened, but the marketing um,
you know, marketing really kindof threw a wrench in the the
breakfast thing.
Yeah, you know, when they cameout and said breakfast is the
most important meal of the day.
SPEAKER_02 (38:28):
Yeah, okay, whatever.
That's like saying diamonds areforever.
It's a ploy, it's a marketingploy.
SPEAKER_03 (38:36):
And the other thing that they did at the same time
that they came out with that wasthey said eggs are bad for you,
bacon is bad for you.
Yeah, saying that about eggs,no, that's bullshit.
And so what happened was it putfull dependency of a lot of the
generations from the 60s on ontocereal.
They thought they were doing agood thing for their kids.
SPEAKER_02 (38:56):
Well, and it was convenient.
And you know, you start goinginto the 70s and 80s, you got,
you know, latch key kids, thingslike that, where the parents
aren't there might not be homein the morning.
So here's here's a box ofcereal, here's a milk, you know,
some milk, put your bowl in thesink after you're done.
Yep, absolutely, easy.
And the parents did.
They thought that they weregiving their children a full
(39:17):
breakfast worth of vitamins andminerals just in this one bowl
of cereal.
SPEAKER_03 (39:23):
So, my generation, one of the things that kind of
got us rolling on that wholething was TV dinners.
Oh, yeah, yeah, you know, it'slike hungry men, yeah, hungry
men for TV dinners.
Yeah, and uh also the littleboxes of cereal that you could
eat right out of the box.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, and then he pour the milkin and you could eat it right
(39:43):
out of the box.
And that those those marketingtools were very effective.
Oh, yeah, another one is JiffyPop popcorn.
SPEAKER_02 (39:50):
I remember that.
That was on the stove.
You have to pop it on the stove.
SPEAKER_03 (39:53):
And it would pop up into a big bowl.
But you know, I mean, marketers,let's face it, what kind of
commercials are on TV right now?
It isn't hey, scare tactics,yeah.
Exactly, exactly.
But people aren't scared of itanymore.
Medicine or food?
SPEAKER_02 (40:10):
Medicine or food, medicine or food.
Yeah, absolutely.
SPEAKER_03 (40:13):
That's kind of it.
So I guess where I'm going withthis, and I don't know where
Bobby's going with this, but Iwas probably the one that you
brought it up.
I did bring it up, and I wantedto talk about clean eating.
And, you know, I I recognizethat a lot of people say, you
know, well, those foods are veryexpensive.
Well, we're very overweight as asociety.
SPEAKER_02 (40:35):
Well, and if you look at it even now, the price
of a pound of 80% hamburger atone of the local supermarkets is
absolutely ridiculous.
Yeah, it's re I walked in, I waslike, there is no way I'm paying
that much for one pound of 80%hamburger.
Yeah, it's in Iowa.
It's crazy.
It's insane.
That's like, I don't know,Hawaii prices.
(40:56):
Yeah.
But Hawaii prices?
SPEAKER_03 (40:58):
Yeah.
I wouldn't know what Hawaiiprices are.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Oh, look at her.
Look at her.
Dr.
Domain, she doesn't know.
SPEAKER_02 (41:06):
She doesn't know what Hawaii prices are.
Where have you been?
Dun dun bang.
We know where the next vacationis.
Anyways.
SPEAKER_03 (41:16):
Yeah.
Well, anyway, uh, you know, I Iguess I would say if I had any
words of wisdom, this is for meand for anybody who wants to
hear it.
Uh, and if you don't, you'regonna hear it anyway.
Shut it up.
Oh, Scott! Seeing if they don'twant to hear it, they can is you
know, it I recognize going to afarmer's market might be a
little bit more expensive, butyou're buying local, you're
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supporting local, and uh chancesare your ingredients are a
little bit the list is a lotsmaller.
If you can look for things thatyou can make yourself as opposed
to, you know, buying processedfood, uh, do it and see what
happens.
And one of the other things thatI wanted to mention is back on
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those studies back in the 60s,it was a firm belief.
There were so many studies doneabout how fats were making
Americans fat, or sugars weremaking American Americans fat.
And as it turns out, neither onewere true, but they didn't
publicize these studies.
What we found out was thatultra-processed food is what's
(42:25):
making people fat.
Right.
So get healthy, folks.
Get healthy as much as you can.
Um, we want we want you aroundto listen to us for this next
year.
SPEAKER_02 (42:36):
I'll I'll end up side with um number one, look up
coal butter.
SPEAKER_03 (42:40):
Oh, yeah.
Wait, let's talk about that realquick.
SPEAKER_02 (42:43):
Oh my goodness.
SPEAKER_03 (42:44):
I do want people to look up coal butter.
SPEAKER_02 (42:46):
Look up coal butter.
SPEAKER_03 (42:47):
That was a Nazi Germany thing, wasn't it?
SPEAKER_02 (42:49):
For the U-boat um crews.
That's that's how would theykeep them fed on the U-boats?
SPEAKER_03 (42:55):
How sick is that?
SPEAKER_02 (42:56):
That's it's crazy, but it's not even really the
craziest thing.
Like something like that duringNazi Germany and World War II
kind of seems like not that badof a thing.
SPEAKER_03 (43:08):
I'm just saying it's well, and they tried to market
it outside of Germany, and itdidn't really go, so they kind
of stopped it.
But think about the byproductsthat are made.
Oh my god, and that are droppedinto our foods.
Yeah.
Hey, next time you look at alabel, look for those artificial
things, yeah, you know, likeplastics, because plastics are
in your foods now, metals are inyour foods.
(43:30):
So please pay attention to thelabels, pay attention to your
health, do something about it.
We talked about doctors before,and you know, let's face it,
Americans uh most people don'tlisten to the doctors anyway.
You know, doctors say, hey,listen, you need to quit
smoking.
Did you go home and quitsmoking?
Hey, you need to stop eatingthese kinds of foods, and then
they get mad at society or theyget mad that there's no
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medicines that are working forthem.
Yeah.
And your doc already told youyou needed to lose 100 pounds,
folks.
Come on, you know, or you neededto lose 30 pounds.
So, you know, you need to lose30 pounds this month.
Yeah, doctor.
That was pretty good.
Okay, well, I think that'sprobably all we have for today.
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I'm glad you listened to me, andhopefully you'll look up some
stuff.
And don't take my word for itand don't take Bobby's word for
it.
No, don't.
Absolutely not.
Please look this stuff up.
Look at the studies.
Don't just look on Google.
Search back to the studies ofthese things and find out for
yourself.
We appreciate you joining ushere at the rabbit hole studio
(44:36):
every week.
Be sure to follow us.
We look forward to spending timewith you.
And please like us.
And if you have some feedbackfor us, shoot it on over.
You can go to our website and uhput a message in there.
You can also put a message onour podcast.
Is that correct, Bobby?
SPEAKER_02 (44:53):
Well, on our Facebook page.
SPEAKER_03 (44:55):
On our Facebook page only.
Okay.
Otherwise, sorry.
This is how much I get into it.
Um, otherwise, send us a shortemail at Bloomerinjnexture at
gmail.com.
If you have hate mail, uh, youknow, shove it into some food
somewhere and give it to youremail.
You'll never notice.
You'll never know.
You'll never know.
Okay, until next week, I'm JaneBurke.
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And I'm Bobby Joy.
SPEAKER_02 (45:18):
And you're stuck with us later.
Welcome everyone to today's show, a boomer and a Gen
Xer.
Welcome to a bar coming to youfrom the Rabbit Hole Studio,
where you, as our faithfullisteners, will experience some
wit and wisdom, some smartassery, and a mother and
daughter questioning, are weeven related?
My name is Bobby Joy, and myco-host is my mom Jane.
(00:23):
And we're here to entertain youuh for season two.
Yay!
SPEAKER_03 (00:28):
Season two.
SPEAKER_02 (00:29):
We're so excited.
I say faithful, faithfullisteners, but you know, I also
mean the ones that just nowfound us.
So welcome.
We're happy about to the chaos.
SPEAKER_03 (00:39):
Yeah, pass us on.
SPEAKER_02 (00:40):
We uh just so everybody knows we're not
sponsored, so we can saywhatever the hell we want.
That's right, mate.
Let her go, let her go.
We're also not doctors, lawyers,um we're not professionals,
yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (00:55):
Most times I can't even speak.
Most times we can't find ourpasswords that's all right.
So listen at your owndiscretion.
Listen at your own risk.
That's all I'm saying.
So, how's things going, Bobby?
SPEAKER_02 (01:07):
They're going pretty good.
And I know you're gonna be like,what are you drinking down
there?
What are you drinking downthere?
SPEAKER_03 (01:13):
Because she's always got something.
SPEAKER_02 (01:15):
Well, right now I have like three drinks in front
of me, but listen, none of themare alcohol today.
That's problematic.
None of them are alcohol today.
Although, honestly, afterlooking at some of these, I
would almost prefer the alcohol.
Maybe it would be healthier forme to just do cocaine at this
point rather than an energydrink.
SPEAKER_03 (01:35):
Well, you know, those monster drinks, I'm just
gonna tell you.
Look, they have B vitamins.
SPEAKER_02 (01:40):
Oh, which I'm assuming are um bitch vitamins.
It's something called taurine.
I don't know what that does, butlisten, they put it on the top
of the can.
It's gotta be good.
SPEAKER_03 (01:53):
It's gotta be good.
It's gotta be good.
SPEAKER_02 (01:54):
Is it number one?
Is it number one on the list?
It's literally right front andcenter.
Taurine.
No idea.
I don't know what that means.
But uh the list of ingredientssure tells me that uh I'm not
seeing taurine.
I'm not seeing taurine.
SPEAKER_03 (02:08):
You won't be on the show next week.
Oh, R.I.P.
SPEAKER_02 (02:13):
Hey, so what is our topic today, Bob?
So our topic today is uh one ofmom's favorite topics to talk
about.
We're gonna talk about some umwhat is it, processed food,
banned foods.
Yes.
Literally the shit we eat inAmerica versus the good stuff
that everybody else has.
(02:33):
That's right.
SPEAKER_03 (02:34):
We're gonna talk about why you're fat, why you're
not healthy, and why you'redying of food why you're fat.
SPEAKER_02 (02:40):
Because I'm upstairs earlier.
And I'm like, look, I know I'mfat.
Like, I know that I've got atleast a good 30 pounds that I
could just drop and I would becompletely healthy.
But here's the thing I know I'mfat.
I know I'm fat.
Okay, I can call McDonald's onthe way here because you ate at
McDonald's.
It was twofold.
(03:01):
I was hungry and I also need topoop.
SPEAKER_03 (03:09):
It's gonna take care of both.
You can tell, listeners, that wereally don't care what we say,
and we'll just say what we wantto say.
But I'm just shocked that youyou eat at McDonald's.
SPEAKER_01 (03:20):
At the same time, what like you're eating a big
man sitting on the throne.
SPEAKER_02 (03:25):
Sometimes.
Oh, tell me it's not true.
No, we did the whole episode oncleanliness and bathroom.
SPEAKER_01 (03:32):
No, you can't eat while you're on the toilet.
SPEAKER_02 (03:34):
No, you can't eat while you're on a toilet.
Like I said, a shower beer isfine, but if you're putting a
Subway sandwich next to yourtoilet, I want nothing to do
with you for the next 500 years.
SPEAKER_03 (03:45):
Yeah, that's uh that's a bad thing.
So we uh talked this past yearto my grandson uh about celiac
disease, and I have celiac, anduh we also talked about a little
bit about processed food.
And I've been reading a bookthat a girlfriend of mine gave
to me to read.
SPEAKER_02 (04:05):
She's been reading a book, folks.
I have she has a new master'sdegree, and it came from one
little book.
SPEAKER_03 (04:13):
I think I'm an expert now.
It's as useless as your otherones.
Bobby, see, why do you have tobe so hurtful in cutting?
SPEAKER_02 (04:24):
Ma'am, you have how many masters, and you're asking
if places or countries orcontinents.
Let's go.
SPEAKER_03 (04:30):
Stop it.
I I came to the conclusion I waswrong without you.
Anyway, so you read a book.
I read a book, and it's calledUltra Processed People.
And a girlfriend of mine gave itto me to read, and she said to
me, and this is by Chris VanTulliken, and she said to me, my
girlfriend did, she said, onceyou read that book, you're never
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gonna think of food the same wayagain.
You're never gonna look at agrocery store the same way
again.
Now, listen, I'm not ignorantabout food, right?
Right.
Uh we have the grandson who islike uh an expert when it comes
to processed food, naturalfoods, foods that you should
eat, foods that cause diseases,foods that heal you.
(05:12):
And he has always said what youput in your mouth, what you eat
is either uh uh oh my god, fuel.
It's either fuel.
No, that's not what he says.
I can't remember what he saidnow.
But anyway, he's he would sayit's either medicine to your
body or it's a toxin.
One or the other.
There's no in between.
So either you're putting thefood in your body to be a
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medicine so that you can stayalive, or you're putting it in
your body and it's gonna be atoxin in your body.
And that's basically what he hassaid.
And so this book kind of uh, ifyou haven't read this book, I
gotta tell you, there's a lot ofstudies that it refers to.
You know me.
I gotta go look at the studies.
I'm not gonna listen to localradio and TV to find out this
(05:56):
information.
I'm gonna go look at thestudies.
And they've been out there sincethe 1960s and 1970s that talk
about manufacturing of food.
Right.
And what the manufacturers, ofcourse, the industry is doing to
us and what the government isdoing to us uh with the uh
products that they put into ourfood.
(06:16):
And the fact of the matter is,is we think we've got all these
regulations that protect us.
They're not protecting us, guesswho they're protecting?
They're protecting protectingthe um companies, the industry.
Yeah, yeah.
Because those guys want to makemoney, and of course, the
government wants these companiesto make money.
And so, even though there areregulations out there, and we've
(06:39):
talked about the book of uh thatthe government has on how many
rat hairs you can have in tuna.
Oh, yeah, how many bug eggs.
SPEAKER_02 (06:48):
I can't remember either, but how many bug eggs
you can have in jelly, yeah.
How many human parts you canhave in a can of beans, right?
Right.
Before it's it has all of that.
SPEAKER_03 (06:57):
Yeah, and it's true that that book does exist.
I pulled the book up, and we cancertainly uh provide you the
link uh on the case.
SPEAKER_02 (07:04):
That's a good late night read in October, is it is
it is kind of fun.
SPEAKER_03 (07:09):
It is actually kind of fun because you sit there in
disbelief and read this stuffthat the government allows to go
through for these industries.
SPEAKER_01 (07:16):
Can I tell you why they came up with those
standards?
SPEAKER_03 (07:18):
You know, it doesn't.
I mean, somebody found a big toeand a can of pork and beans or
no, because it's like you know,it's like a horse made by
committee that looks like youknow a tin can.
So, you know, why even think ofthat?
What do you mean?
SPEAKER_01 (07:31):
Why would you even come up with some some arbitrary
thing that you'd find in food?
Because why would you find ahuman body part of it?
Because people fall in machines.
Well, that's what I'm saying.
So some somewhere it came up,right?
SPEAKER_03 (07:44):
So it came like multiple times, multiple times
you can only have so manytoenails in your lasagna or
something.
SPEAKER_01 (07:52):
I don't know what it is.
SPEAKER_02 (07:53):
I mean, you know, you're it's kind of like the
warning labels.
You know, somebody had to havedone that at least once
somewhere, and now there's awarning label saying do not do
this when you would never thinkto do it in your wall
distractor.
SPEAKER_01 (08:04):
But isn't that a good thing though that we have
standards like that?
No.
Well, for food.
Yeah, wait, wait.
Yeah, for food.
SPEAKER_02 (08:10):
Like I warning labels, we need to pull them all
off.
SPEAKER_01 (08:12):
You can only have too many rabbit turds, so many
rabbit turds in your peanutbutter or something like that.
SPEAKER_03 (08:19):
Yeah.
No, I get it.
No, I understand why we wouldhave those.
The problem is they're driven byoutside industry.
They're not really driven byanybody who wants to care for us
and take care of us.
It's kind of like saying that adoctor really wants to save you.
No, they don't.
They want to pass on themedicine that they're getting a
kickback on from thepharmaceuticals.
SPEAKER_01 (08:39):
I don't think that's true.
SPEAKER_03 (08:40):
It is true.
Oh, come on.
I I truly believe it.
Really?
SPEAKER_01 (08:43):
You don't think you don't think there's an honorable
doctor out there that wants tosave your life.
It's gone through all that.
All that time.
SPEAKER_03 (08:50):
I think that they start out that way.
I think they do.
I think there is an honorabledoctor out there, but I'm not
sure.
Some of them stay that way.
I also think that a pill ormedicine is a quick ticket, it's
a quick fix.
SPEAKER_01 (09:02):
Oh, I don't doubt that.
SPEAKER_03 (09:03):
And so I guess that's a good idea.
SPEAKER_01 (09:04):
Okay, but I still think there's people out there
that want that that want otherpeople to live.
SPEAKER_02 (09:09):
Well, I'm not saying that there aren't, but a lot of
times they are not fully told byyou know certain things that,
like, listen, this is a new kindof chemo.
It's gonna make your pay, youknow, you only have to do it
three times instead of sixtimes.
But they're not telling thatdoctor that there's a higher
percentage of death rate,there's a higher percentage of,
(09:30):
you know, bones breaking andthings like that, you know, that
would be side effects for.
I think the doctors go in blind.
I think there are greedydoctors, but I think a lot of
them go in with the idea of Iwant to help people, because
usually doctor cop things likethat, they come from trauma.
So they had somebody die on themthat they couldn't help, type of
thing.
I want to go in helping people,but they're either blinded by
(09:54):
the companies who don't have todisclose certain things, or
they're driven by money.
Money.
SPEAKER_03 (10:00):
But you have to also realize that.
SPEAKER_01 (10:02):
Well, what about the factor of the patient?
SPEAKER_03 (10:05):
What about the factor of the patient?
SPEAKER_01 (10:06):
Well, I think that comes into play.
There's the money aspect to it.
We all know what the bottom lineis.
It's the bottom line.
But then what about the patient?
The patient that's adamant.
Oh, I'm sorry, I just don't havethe willpower to stop shoving
Twinkies in my head.
Give me some kind of drug.
SPEAKER_03 (10:21):
That's another point.
That's another point.
SPEAKER_01 (10:24):
And so we have to look at the doctor saying, stop
putting food in your hole.
They're gonna do these pills andthen they try and lose weight
that way.
Right.
Is it healthy?
Probably not.
SPEAKER_03 (10:35):
Okay, okay, and I get your point there, Dr.
Domain, but I'm just gonna saythis.
I think that there are a lot ofdoctors out there that do go in,
like Bobby said, wanting to behelpful, wanting to do their
duty to society.
But technology changes soquickly, right?
Discoveries of diseases changeso quickly.
How would you ever expect the adoctor to keep up on every
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single thing out there?
So a lot of times medication isa quick fix.
Which medication are you gonnapromote?
I'm gonna promote the one thatgives me the biggest kickback.
That's what I'm gonna do, andthat's how I feel.
That's me personally.
Now, I don't think that anybodycan keep up with everything
that's that's you know beingdiscovered today.
I just really don't.
(11:20):
And so a lot of times you talkto your doctor about stuff.
I've talked to my doctor aboutuh drugs, and she'll go, Oh, I'm
not familiar with that one.
What you know, and and so theyhave to research it too.
Think about what they'd have togo through to keep up with all
of that.
But let's talk about what youjust mentioned.
SPEAKER_02 (11:38):
I was gonna say, I zoned the hell out for a minute.
SPEAKER_01 (11:40):
Okay, oh, shut up, you go you shut you weren't
zoning out when I was Oh mygosh.
Stay focused on me if I juststay focused on you.
SPEAKER_03 (11:51):
You are so mean to me.
SPEAKER_01 (11:52):
We're gonna talk about food and click and noise
here in the background.
SPEAKER_03 (11:55):
We're gonna talk about food because you know,
people wonder why cancer ratesare so high.
They wonder why disease ratesare so high, they wonder why we
are so fat, they wonder whywe're so lethargic, um, why we
have more people with dementiatoday or Alzheimer's today than
ever in history.
(12:15):
And a lot of times, and and I'mgonna go back to these studies
that I read uh that werereferenced in this book back in
the 60s and 70s, is you know,there were a lot of people that
were pushing, oh, you need totake fat out of the food.
Well, once you take fat out ofthe food, guess what?
You gotta put something else inthere, right?
Right.
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And a lot of times, uh, youknow, or you have to take uh
sugar out of the food.
Right.
Well, if you take the sugar out,you gotta put something
artificial in.
Yeah.
And the other thing it'sartificial, it's chemical.
It's chemical, and we're gonnatalk a little bit about that
because you know, it's in foodadditives, it's in processed
foods, and it's in other foods.
But um, you know, all of thatstuff, I I gotta be honest with
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you.
We've I have been.
Dr.
Domain probably is just goingalong with me to keep me quiet.
But but I've been trying to getus off of as much processed food
as we can now.
You can't get off of processedfood, let's face it.
Not in America, not in America,no.
Um, but you know, there'ssynthetics that are being added
to foods.
Um, there's some discoveriesthat we made when we started
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looking at this, aren't there,Bobby?
SPEAKER_02 (13:24):
Yeah, a lot of them was um what foods were banned in
other countries.
And like Fruit Loops.
Okay, first of all, Fruit Loops.
Fruit loops, like, and then yousaid you had said something.
I said something about littleDebbie being banned.
And you were so sad.
And I was sad, and you werelike, So Twinkies?
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And I was like, Well, I don'tknow, because that's hostess,
that's not little Debbie.
And I scrolled down a little bitmore.
By God, there was freakingTwinkies right there.
SPEAKER_03 (13:52):
Oh my gosh, so they banned those in other countries.
SPEAKER_02 (13:54):
Yep, things like things like Mountain Dew.
Um most of them are Europeancountries, most of them are the
European Union, but there areother countries like Japan,
Australia, um, New Zealand,Canada, all of those like milk.
You know, we had talked aboutthe fact the fact that you um
drink raw milk on the farm,yeah.
(14:16):
And US milk is banned inAustralia, New Zealand, Canada,
Japan, and the European Union.
SPEAKER_03 (14:23):
Guess where we first got hooked on raw milk?
Uh New Zealand when we werethere.
Oh, yeah, they had dispensariesright there at the farm
alongside the road.
It was cool, it's the coolestthing.
SPEAKER_02 (14:35):
Yeah, so it's basically because we give our
cows a synthetic syntheticman-made hormone.
Right.
And it's called uh RBGH.
So it increases milk production.
Yep.
That's not allowed over there.
SPEAKER_03 (14:50):
So when we were researching whether we wanted to
buy raw milk, that was one ofthe things that we had found
out.
SPEAKER_01 (14:56):
So just and just yesterday we were out with your
buddy at uh it doesn't matter.
We were out with her friend andwe were talking about her recent
trip to Dublin.
SPEAKER_03 (15:07):
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (15:09):
The beer, Dublin, Ireland.
Talking about the beer.
Oh, did you go to Guinness?
You know, yeah, yeah, yeah.
It went to Guinness and shementioned the beer tastes a lot
better.
Yeah, she's sorry.
They don't put all thepreservatives and stuff by the
time it gets here.
Guinness does taste different.
Just little things like that.
SPEAKER_03 (15:26):
Yeah, absolutely.
And the reason I wanted to talkabout this today, after reading
that book, I gotta be honestwith you, the friend that gave
me the book to read, she'sabsolutely right.
I do look at everythingdifferently now.
And I do want to make thingsmyself, or I do want to, you
know, I've been going to myfriends' houses to get apples
and pears and things like that.
A lot of this is self-inflicted.
(15:46):
It's kind of like, you know,somebody smokes and then they
get cancer and they go, Well,you know, nobody's willing to
help me, you know, and why isn'tthis medicine working?
Well, why are you putting acancer stick to your face?
What's going on?
I mean, stop it.
But a lot of it isself-inflicted because a lot of
the cancers, a lot of thediseases, and uh a lot of the
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things that change our bodybehavior or excuse me, our
mental behaviors have to do withhow our food is processed.
And a lot of people think thereason we're fat is because
we've got we eat fat food.
Fats are good for our body,right?
Fats are good for our body.
SPEAKER_02 (16:24):
Correct.
Fats are free.
Absolutely.
And well, you had said somethingabout, you know, in America, we
don't have like unprocessedfood.
So you go to the grocery store,this is an example.
Um, our apples here in America,they're banned in the European
Union, right?
And why is that?
Because they are actuallytreated with DPA, which keeps
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them from turning brown and howthey look nice and shiny in the
store and stuff like that.
Freaking apples.
Apples are banned in othercountries that come from our
country because we can't get ourshit together.
SPEAKER_03 (16:58):
And here's the other thing I see people who uh have
said, Oh, I buy only organic.
SPEAKER_02 (17:04):
Uh or I buy I buy only free-range chicken eggs
that have been fed organic food.
It's like you realize thosefree-range chicken eggs that
have only been fed organic foodmeans that they run in the
backyard and eat bugs all day.
SPEAKER_03 (17:22):
That's all it means.
And they can process them.
And I'm not worried about that,but uh, I will say this you
know, we used to be beefproducers and we did uh we did
uh all you know corn fed beef.
Yeah.
Angus and Angus, yeah.
And we did not give any hormonesor anything like that to any of
our cattle, and we had so manypeople, as a matter of fact, we
(17:44):
would ship to I think it was NewYork because this guy contacted
us and said, Hey, listen, sincemy daughter's been eating this
meat, she hasn't had theproblems with whatever it was
she had.
I don't even remember now.
And there's so many meds thatcattle are given, you know, and
the problem is is when you see alabel that says this was
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organically grown, doesn'tnecessarily mean it was
organically grown.
Sorry, folks.
Right.
Because the seed might have beenorganic, but the but the
pesticides that were put on itaren't.
Correct.
And the herbicides that were puton it aren't.
And so, you know, yeah, it mayhave been organic when it
started, uh, but it's not by thetime it gets to you, and you all
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think it is, it's not.
SPEAKER_02 (18:30):
And you go other places and you see, you know, if
you're able to see theingredients on these foods, even
something simple as bread andtortillas.
You go to another country, breadand tortillas, they're made with
simple products, they're madewith pure products.
You go to the grocery store andit's like, oh, well, it's got
(18:50):
corn glucose and you know, thiscoloring and that it's like why?
SPEAKER_03 (18:56):
Yeah, why?
You know, I've heard people sayin Italy, even though I have
celiac, I can eat the bread overthere.
Right.
Yeah, because it's not processedlike it is not making it.
But why is that happening?
Why is it that we don't have thesame standards as another
country?
I don't have any idea.
I have no idea.
But um, one of the things that Ilooked up, and this was
(19:18):
interesting to me, I hope it isto our listeners, is how many
petroleum products are in ourfoods.
SPEAKER_00 (19:24):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (19:24):
So petroleum is a hydro uh carbon mixture and it's
found in crude oil, in caseanybody doesn't know that.
And its products are used invarious industries, including
the production of food.
Yes.
Some of the foods that contain apetroleum derivative uh are food
additives, like guess what?
(19:46):
Artificial food dyes, whatcolors?
Uh red 40.
SPEAKER_02 (19:51):
Yes.
SPEAKER_00 (19:52):
How'd you know that?
SPEAKER_02 (19:53):
I well, red 40 because on daddy daycare, the
little girl is like, I'mallergic to red 40, yellow dye
number three.
SPEAKER_03 (20:02):
It's actually yellow dye number five.
SPEAKER_02 (20:04):
Okay, yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (20:05):
That was from Die Hard, I think.
SPEAKER_02 (20:06):
No, it was from Daddy Daycare.
SPEAKER_01 (20:07):
No, no, but there was another one where where the
cop was there and he's eatingTwinkie, and he's like,
everything a boy growing boyneeds, yellow dye number five.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (20:15):
So another one that is made from petroleum products.
And again, we are not legalpeople.
We just research stuff, we lookat it, we can read, we can add,
we can carry the one, we can doall of that.
Um, flavorings, vanilla.
Yeah, vanilla is one of the mostwhat do I want to say?
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Used?
No, not most used, but it's themost uh bootlegged product.
And another one, which um Dr.
Domain turned me on to, wasmaple syrup.
Yeah, it's real maple syrup.
Real maple syrup.
So the stores will tell you it'sreal maple syrup.
Yeah, bullshit, but it is no,and so there may be a teeny tiny
(20:59):
little bit of maple syrup that'sreal in there, but it's not all
100% pure.
Right.
It's not Canadian, eh?
You know, obvious, yeah.
Uh obviously preservatives, someprocessed foods like fast foods,
and oh man, I'm gonna jump onyou on this because you had told
me that you went to McDonald'sbefore you came here.
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There's no chicken in thoseMcNuggets.
SPEAKER_02 (21:22):
I didn't eat chicken McNuggets.
I ate the beefless hamburgers.
You did not.
Yeah, I mean, they don't have alot of beef in them.
It's mostly cornmeal.
I was gonna say, what's in thosebeefless cornmeal, sugar in the
buns?
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (21:40):
Don't they do like the fake meat?
Like some of those fast foods.
SPEAKER_02 (21:44):
Oh, like the veggie burger.
Veggie burger or something likethat.
Why would I ever pay for that?
I don't know.
I could just go eat grass in mylawn.
SPEAKER_03 (21:51):
But even French fries uh are quite processed and
they have petro uh in them.
Baked goods like cookies andcakes, candy and chips.
I know Bobby's down there justcrying her eyes out.
But you know, and ice cream, icecream.
I don't like ice cream.
SPEAKER_01 (22:07):
Have you ever seen the roll with ice cream?
What's wrong with it?
SPEAKER_03 (22:10):
What if it's homemade ice cream?
Different.
SPEAKER_01 (22:12):
She's trying to start a fight.
SPEAKER_03 (22:14):
I am gonna start a fight because you know, the ice
cream sandwiches, have you seenthe experiments where they put
them out in the sun and theydon't melt for days?
SPEAKER_01 (22:20):
No, we're talking about real ice cream, nothing.
Really?
Because I get an ice creamsandwich and it's melted halfway
to my car.
It's like ice cream and sugar.
It's all like actual ice cream.
SPEAKER_03 (22:30):
Oh, you guys.
SPEAKER_02 (22:31):
Like dad used to make in the in the kitchen.
SPEAKER_03 (22:34):
Here's another thing that I learned about because my
friend Saud, who is from um uhnot Jordan.
SPEAKER_02 (22:41):
I like how you keep bringing up the one friend that
you're gonna do.
SPEAKER_03 (22:43):
He's from Palestine.
I have friends.
SPEAKER_02 (22:44):
You have a friend?
No, I have friends.
That's so nice for you.
I love that freedom.
SPEAKER_03 (22:48):
With you, you can drop the S, but not with me.
I have an S on the end.
I have friends.
Anyway, his family owns an oliveranch or olive uh farm.
And he could it be a ranch or afarm?
I think it would be a farm.
SPEAKER_02 (23:02):
I think it would be a farm.
SPEAKER_03 (23:03):
Anyway, he goes over every year to help with harvest.
Oh, over in Palestine.
Yeah, I just said Palestine.
SPEAKER_02 (23:10):
Okay.
SPEAKER_03 (23:11):
Oh my goodness.
I was stuck on the olive farm.
SPEAKER_02 (23:14):
No, I was stuck on the olive.
Why would it be an olive ranch?
What are you hurting them out inthe fields?
I just threw that out there.
Why do you why do you thinkthat's it?
Because I went that way.
SPEAKER_03 (23:24):
Get off my junk.
Anyway, uh, olive oil, some ofthose brands have petroleum
base.
And I learned a lot from himbecause he when he goes over
there to help, he sends a barrelof olive oil from his family's
farm back to the United States,and it tastes totally different.
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He'll give me some and totallydifferent.
SPEAKER_02 (23:47):
And so he could like he could sneak that stuff in the
country, sell it as pure.
I mean, the dude would makemillions.
Well, anyway, he's I'm notcondoning any type of thing.
SPEAKER_03 (23:58):
Maybe you can talk to him about that black market
deal.
SPEAKER_02 (24:00):
Oh, he's gonna be on the corner.
She's over there dollars anddollars.
I know you want some of thisoil, man.
SPEAKER_03 (24:06):
Um, wax-coated fruits and vegetables.
The wax can be petroleum-based,and then this is gonna blow poor
Dr.
Domaine out of the water.
Oh no.
Certain types of chocolate.
No, milk chocolate.
They have the coating, the waxcoating.
SPEAKER_01 (24:21):
Oh, yeah, that's probably I I noticed that.
I eat certain chocolate, like itgives you like this waxy taste
in your mouth or something likethat.
SPEAKER_02 (24:29):
Right, I've noticed that on certain brands.
In certain foods, yeah.
Yeah, so then again, I chew onwax bottles.
SPEAKER_01 (24:34):
Yeah, little wax bottles.
SPEAKER_02 (24:36):
Yeah, I chewed.
SPEAKER_01 (24:36):
Don't you eat the whole thing?
SPEAKER_02 (24:37):
Like, yeah, you chew it up as gum.
SPEAKER_01 (24:39):
You just eat the whole thing, don't you?
SPEAKER_03 (24:40):
You don't swallow that.
SPEAKER_02 (24:41):
No, you drink the you drink the stuff and then you
chew on the wax bottle like it'sa piece of gum.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (24:46):
We used to get them as kids.
Yeah, but you don't swallowthat.
SPEAKER_00 (24:50):
Oh.
SPEAKER_02 (24:50):
Well, he's swallowing that.
The instructions were unclear.
SPEAKER_01 (24:54):
That might be instructions back then.
SPEAKER_03 (24:57):
That might be the circumference.
SPEAKER_01 (24:58):
There were just a bunch of a barrel.
You walk by at the end of theday.
SPEAKER_03 (25:01):
There weren't even tags on it.
You literally just stuck yourgreasy little hand in it.
Yeah.
There were so many foods that weused to get.
There's no tags.
There were used to never havebeen any best buy or due dates
on anything.
SPEAKER_02 (25:14):
Yeah, and I mean, like my generation, especially,
grew up on the red dye number 40and stuff like that.
Look what happened.
They call bitch abouteverything.
SPEAKER_01 (25:25):
Like the nutritional labels, those weren't there.
And there's a lot of things.
SPEAKER_03 (25:29):
There's a lot of things that have changed.
SPEAKER_02 (25:30):
Well, no, you go to the candy store, they have the
penny candy.
I mean, it's in the open.
What are you gonna put a labelon each?
No, you just reach in and getsome.
SPEAKER_03 (25:39):
So there's uh there's a word of advice out
there that says, listen, if youcan't pronounce the word on your
ingredients list, don't put itin your body.
SPEAKER_01 (25:47):
Well, what if you're really good at pronouncing
stuff?
SPEAKER_02 (25:50):
But what if you're really bad at pronouncing stuff?
SPEAKER_01 (25:52):
Oh, then you're gonna starve.
SPEAKER_02 (25:54):
Like, what if what okay?
Like, what if you're like, oh mygod, like a king hydrogen
dioxide in it.
I'm going to digest dioxide.
Like, what if you have one ofthose one of those people that
doesn't actually know whatthings are?
They should probably look atthey should probably Google it.
SPEAKER_00 (26:11):
Yeah, they probably don't want to eat it.
SPEAKER_03 (26:14):
I don't know.
But there are some also not justthe ingredients on your
products, because let me saythis.
I did discover this also.
She discovered it.
When somebody says, hey, thishas vitamin C, vitamin D,
vitamin whatever, taurine.
It can have taurine.
Whatever that is.
We don't know what that is.
(26:35):
Um it only has to have a minuteamount in order for them to put
it on the label.
So again, remember that justbecause let's say apples have a
certain vitamin in them, if youbuy applesauce or apple juice, a
lot of those are are extractedout of that product and then
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they put it back in in a fakeway.
Right.
When they put it back in in afake way, unfortunately, you use
you lose your vitamin uh abilityon you know to absorb the
vitamins from that because it'snot there any longer.
SPEAKER_01 (27:09):
Are you reading everything on the can?
SPEAKER_03 (27:11):
So let's see.
SPEAKER_02 (27:11):
She's down there with a monster drink.
SPEAKER_01 (27:14):
This is a popular energy drink.
Oh, God.
SPEAKER_02 (27:16):
Well, this one actually, this is the Amsterdam
version, so this is uh import.
So uh it gives me 580% of mydaily value for B12 vitamin.
SPEAKER_03 (27:28):
Yeah, okay.
SPEAKER_02 (27:30):
That's insane.
You gotta that's what is that?
There's no way.
There's no way.
What is that exactly?
SPEAKER_01 (27:36):
Doesn't vitamin B12 like give you a little energy
boost?
SPEAKER_02 (27:40):
So yeah, it does give you people who are anemic
and stuff like that, they haveto get B12 shots.
SPEAKER_03 (27:44):
But here's the other thing.
I just want to go back to what Ijust said.
Just because they put it backinto the product doesn't mean
your body's gonna absorb it.
Well, that's what I'm saying.
It's gotta be like completelymanufactured.
Yeah, just because it's good,you know, just sweet potatoes
are good for you, right?
SPEAKER_02 (27:59):
I don't know.
SPEAKER_03 (28:00):
They are very good.
A sweet potato's never eaten asweet potato in her life.
SPEAKER_02 (28:11):
I had one sweet potato French fry one time and
it was one of the time.
I couldn't do it.
SPEAKER_00 (28:16):
It was like dip toes out of that.
SPEAKER_02 (28:18):
What the hell is that?
SPEAKER_03 (28:20):
But anyway, sweet potatoes are really good for
you.
But once it's been processed andthey extract the good stuff out
of that sweet potato to put iton the market so that it is has
a shelf life, so that it's gotsome type of um, you know, it
meets the standards for theUnited States.
Just because they put thosevitamins back in doesn't mean
(28:40):
your body can absorb thosevitamins.
And so I just want to talk aboutsome words that y'all need to
pay attention to.
Y'all.
Y'all.
Y'all.
Anytime you see the wordenriched, it's bullshit.
It means you're eating basicallyplastic.
Yeah.
Because enriched means we juststrip that food of everything it
had and we put some fabricatedthing back into the food.
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Anytime you see enriched, wheredo you see that most?
SPEAKER_02 (29:08):
Uh like when you have like the enriched flour,
yes, enriched flour, yeah,pastas, yeah, um, cereals, yeah,
um, breads, breads, yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (29:18):
Anytime you see enriched, you're just shoving
crap in your body.
That's all you're doing is justshoving crap in your body.
So also the word natural, theFDA has no res no strict
definition of what natural is,other than it should not contain
anything that's artificial orsynthetic.
This means that you know, foodhigh in sugar, fat, or salt can
(29:40):
still be natural labelednatural.
SPEAKER_02 (29:42):
Yeah, because it's natural sugar, it's natural fat.
SPEAKER_03 (29:45):
Yep, yeah, yep.
Made with real fruit.
SPEAKER_02 (29:49):
Okay, just because it's made with real fruit, they
probably just like ran waterover the real fruit and then
used it in the production.
SPEAKER_03 (29:56):
You're on the right track.
SPEAKER_02 (29:58):
That's what I would do.
SPEAKER_03 (29:59):
The product can clean.
This even if it contains only avery small amount of actual
fruit.
So when it says made with realfruit, they could have taken
their fingertip and put that inthere.
SPEAKER_02 (30:10):
And that's I mean, yeah, they basically will like
run it over a real fruit withyou know 50,000 other gallons of
whatever.
And this is especially true withum juice for little kids.
It is, yeah.
And they want to tell real fruitjuice, and then you look on the
side and it says contains onepercent fruit juice.
SPEAKER_03 (30:30):
Right.
And so the bulk of the flavorcomes from that added sugars or
added artificial ingredients.
Um, another one is multi-grainor made with whole grains.
Those terms.
So, have you ever seen wheatbread?
SPEAKER_02 (30:47):
Yes, I've seen wheat bread in my life.
SPEAKER_03 (30:49):
I know, but people go, Oh, make sure that you get
wheat bread.
Isn't all bread made with wheat?
SPEAKER_02 (30:55):
Okay, well, and just because it says wheat bread
doesn't mean that it's healthierthan the white bread because a
lot of it is super ultraprocessed.
Right.
SPEAKER_03 (31:03):
And it doesn't say whole wheat.
Right.
It says wheat.
Well, all bread is made ofwheat.
Okay, whether it's brown, white,I don't care what color it is,
is made of wheat.
So those terms don't guarantee aproduct is rich in any type of
fiber or nutrient.
SPEAKER_02 (31:17):
Right.
SPEAKER_03 (31:17):
Um, a multi-grain product can simply contain a mix
of, I don't know, refined grainsmade with some type of whole
grain.
SPEAKER_02 (31:26):
Yeah, like two or more grains.
Right.
It's a mixed grain.
SPEAKER_03 (31:29):
It's like but it doesn't mean that they're, you
know, doesn't mean it's anybetter for you than Popeye's
chicken biscuits.
It doesn't mean that it's ahundred percent whole green.
What do you think lightlysweetened means?
SPEAKER_02 (31:43):
Define lightly.
SPEAKER_03 (31:44):
Yeah, no kidding.
SPEAKER_02 (31:46):
Because for you it'd be different than me.
Oh, yeah.
For me, it would be like a lotmore sweetened than for you.
SPEAKER_03 (31:52):
So what's interesting about that phrase is
it is totally unregulated andit's very misleading.
SPEAKER_02 (31:59):
And there's a lot of stuff that these people are
putting on this food that youknow you would assume that the
FDA would have some sort ofsomething at bare minimum, so
that they, you know, you can'tput whole wheat on this unless
you actually use only wholewheat and not type of thing.
And it's like, what are youdoing?
SPEAKER_03 (32:19):
Again, we get back to the industry, right?
Yeah, we get back to who'smaking money off of our health.
SPEAKER_02 (32:25):
Right.
SPEAKER_03 (32:25):
And I am a firm believer that, you know, what
you put in your body, a lot ofthat is self-inflicted.
And so if you're gonna eat thiscrap and then you get cancer, or
you're gonna eat this crap andnow you're a diabetic, or you
have Alzheimer's or whatever,and people go, Nobody's helping
me, this medicine's not helpingme, poor, poor me.
You freaking did it to yourself.
(32:47):
And I'm just gonna be mean aboutsaying because we're still
researching.
Some cancers are hereditary.
I said Alzheimer's, I know youdid.
I said cancer.
Yeah, but some cancers arehereditary, right?
Because I've got the brecogeninethat you do that runs in my
family.
Yeah, and so you know, thepossibility or the probability
of me having cancer is very,very high, or getting cancer is
(33:09):
very, very high.
But there are other cancers,there are other diseases that
you can avoid yourself.
SPEAKER_02 (33:16):
Yeah, mostly.
SPEAKER_03 (33:17):
Now, mostly, yeah, it is true.
SPEAKER_02 (33:19):
Yeah, I didn't say it wasn't, I just said most I
thought I was gonna have to geta saddle on because you were
gonna jump on my back aboutgoing back to the anyways.
Going back to the what?
Wait a minute.
I want to know what we're goingback to.
Oh, and one of the the listenershave to go back on one of the
other shows about how we had anargument about this earlier,
too.
SPEAKER_03 (33:39):
So what was it?
I don't even remember I came inwith you.
Oh, but you know we argued aboutit.
Yeah, I do you don't remember,but okay.
SPEAKER_02 (33:47):
Well, that was good information.
SPEAKER_03 (33:48):
Thanks for sharing.
SPEAKER_02 (33:49):
Okay, another one I was just trying to get you away
from the whole doctor thingagain so I didn't zone out.
SPEAKER_03 (33:54):
Anyway, the other one is gluten-free, gluten-free.
Well, a lot of people haveceliac disease, just because
something says gluten-freedoesn't mean you're safe.
Why is that?
SPEAKER_02 (34:03):
Uh, because trace amounts of gluten, yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (34:07):
Yeah, so it may not be a celiac safe environment.
Yeah, because we talked aboutceliac safe restaurants, so just
because it says gluten-freedoesn't mean it's celiac, yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (34:18):
Because it could be made on like the same pizza
cutting board without wiping theflour off, and now they're
touching it with flour on theirhands, things like that, or
pizza dough on their handsthat's not gluten-free, and all
of a sudden now you have thatmajor exposure.
SPEAKER_03 (34:34):
Yeah, yeah, and and I don't think people understand
that.
SPEAKER_02 (34:36):
No.
SPEAKER_03 (34:37):
Um, what do you think superfood really means?
SPEAKER_02 (34:40):
Um, flying chickens.
I don't know.
SPEAKER_03 (34:44):
There's no regulatory or scientific
definition.
SPEAKER_02 (34:46):
Yeah, that's just that just pisses me off because
it's like, don't we have anentire alphabet mafia like place
that does this?
Like the FDA, the USDA, youknow, they tell they always tout
about, and I know it goes backto the corporations and stuff,
but it just pisses me off thatwe have this entire area in our
country that's supposed to bedealing with this shit, and all
(35:08):
they're doing is saying, hey,you can say what you want, but
we're not gonna guaranteeanything.
SPEAKER_03 (35:13):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (35:14):
Like, where are you even here?
SPEAKER_03 (35:15):
With superfoods, um, it used to give a, you know,
kind of like a health halo uh tocertain products, but it really
doesn't guarantee anything.
SPEAKER_02 (35:25):
Yeah, like the it was what was it?
Asae, however you say that.
Usia or us, yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (35:34):
I thought it was Asa.
A-C uh A-C-A-I.
I used to say Ataya, but okay.
SPEAKER_02 (35:42):
Anyways, y'all know what we're talking about.
Okay, but yeah, it's like theytouted that as this big
superfood forever and didn'ttake into account how processed
the items were that this was in.
I mean, you can go, oh, I'mgonna go get it, you know, this
yogurt that has this superfoodin it.
Okay, well, the yogurt's madeout of crap.
(36:02):
Yeah, like literal crap.
Yeah, and it's saying it's asuperfood because it has this
certain thing in it.
SPEAKER_03 (36:08):
So I'm not saying that I am uh processed food free
by any stretch of theimagination.
SPEAKER_02 (36:14):
All I'm saying is it would be a real challenge to be
processed food free completelyin the United States.
SPEAKER_03 (36:20):
I'm just saying anywhere that you can find
farmers markets, anytime you canmake it yourself.
I mean, I'm sitting down hereright now with a Lipton diet
green tea mixed berry drink, andthe list of ingredients on it
are seriously probably an inchand a half long.
SPEAKER_02 (36:42):
I'm literally thinking just alcohol like
liquor is more healthy.
That's what I'm saying.
It's healthier, it's more purefor my body than half the shit
that I drink.
Yeah, I don't know, Bobby.
SPEAKER_03 (36:53):
I you want to do a test on that?
Did you want to test that out?
SPEAKER_02 (36:58):
No, because I really do like my monsters and they
kind of level me out.
SPEAKER_03 (37:01):
So, what other foods do we have to watch out for?
SPEAKER_02 (37:04):
What things um so a big one is breakfast cereal
foods.
Oh, good one.
Breakfast cereal in general.
They have rows and rows.
I mean, like an entire freakingaisle of nothing but breakfast
cereal.
And that includes like oatmeal,um, you know, things like that.
But you're looking at, you know,Japan and the European Union
(37:25):
have banned most of Americanbreakfast cereals.
Yes.
And for good reason.
I mean, you look at them, 90% ofthem literally are dyed so bad
you can't tell where they camefrom in the first place.
They're saying, oh, well, thisis a wheat cereal, this is a
rice cereal.
Yeah, it's got like one minutemilligram of wheat in it, and
then it's covered in sugar, andit's worse than crack for your
(37:48):
kids or even yourself, because Ihave an addiction to cereal.
SPEAKER_03 (37:52):
And it's I was just gonna say, it's very addictive.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (37:56):
You know, there's a lot of people who will have a
bowl of cereal for supper andget up and have another bowl
because they might feel full,but they didn't get that
dopamine kick that they needed.
SPEAKER_03 (38:06):
They didn't get that that digestive, whatever shot of
energy that they needed.
But you know, back in the day,and I was just gonna oh, I was
gonna pull up the date when thishappened, but the marketing um,
you know, marketing really kindof threw a wrench in the the
breakfast thing.
Yeah, you know, when they cameout and said breakfast is the
most important meal of the day.
SPEAKER_02 (38:28):
Yeah, okay, whatever.
That's like saying diamonds areforever.
It's a ploy, it's a marketingploy.
SPEAKER_03 (38:36):
And the other thing that they did at the same time
that they came out with that wasthey said eggs are bad for you,
bacon is bad for you.
Yeah, saying that about eggs,no, that's bullshit.
And so what happened was it putfull dependency of a lot of the
generations from the 60s on ontocereal.
They thought they were doing agood thing for their kids.
SPEAKER_02 (38:56):
Well, and it was convenient.
And you know, you start goinginto the 70s and 80s, you got,
you know, latch key kids, thingslike that, where the parents
aren't there might not be homein the morning.
So here's here's a box ofcereal, here's a milk, you know,
some milk, put your bowl in thesink after you're done.
Yep, absolutely, easy.
And the parents did.
They thought that they weregiving their children a full
(39:17):
breakfast worth of vitamins andminerals just in this one bowl
of cereal.
SPEAKER_03 (39:23):
So, my generation, one of the things that kind of
got us rolling on that wholething was TV dinners.
Oh, yeah, yeah, you know, it'slike hungry men, yeah, hungry
men for TV dinners.
Yeah, and uh also the littleboxes of cereal that you could
eat right out of the box.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, and then he pour the milkin and you could eat it right
(39:43):
out of the box.
And that those those marketingtools were very effective.
Oh, yeah, another one is JiffyPop popcorn.
SPEAKER_02 (39:50):
I remember that.
That was on the stove.
You have to pop it on the stove.
SPEAKER_03 (39:53):
And it would pop up into a big bowl.
But you know, I mean, marketers,let's face it, what kind of
commercials are on TV right now?
It isn't hey, scare tactics,yeah.
Exactly, exactly.
But people aren't scared of itanymore.
Medicine or food?
SPEAKER_02 (40:10):
Medicine or food, medicine or food.
Yeah, absolutely.
SPEAKER_03 (40:13):
That's kind of it.
So I guess where I'm going withthis, and I don't know where
Bobby's going with this, but Iwas probably the one that you
brought it up.
I did bring it up, and I wantedto talk about clean eating.
And, you know, I I recognizethat a lot of people say, you
know, well, those foods are veryexpensive.
Well, we're very overweight as asociety.
SPEAKER_02 (40:35):
Well, and if you look at it even now, the price
of a pound of 80% hamburger atone of the local supermarkets is
absolutely ridiculous.
Yeah, it's re I walked in, I waslike, there is no way I'm paying
that much for one pound of 80%hamburger.
Yeah, it's in Iowa.
It's crazy.
It's insane.
That's like, I don't know,Hawaii prices.
(40:56):
Yeah.
But Hawaii prices?
SPEAKER_03 (40:58):
Yeah.
I wouldn't know what Hawaiiprices are.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Oh, look at her.
Look at her.
Dr.
Domain, she doesn't know.
SPEAKER_02 (41:06):
She doesn't know what Hawaii prices are.
Where have you been?
Dun dun bang.
We know where the next vacationis.
Anyways.
SPEAKER_03 (41:16):
Yeah.
Well, anyway, uh, you know, I Iguess I would say if I had any
words of wisdom, this is for meand for anybody who wants to
hear it.
Uh, and if you don't, you'regonna hear it anyway.
Shut it up.
Oh, Scott! Seeing if they don'twant to hear it, they can is you
know, it I recognize going to afarmer's market might be a
little bit more expensive, butyou're buying local, you're
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supporting local, and uh chancesare your ingredients are a
little bit the list is a lotsmaller.
If you can look for things thatyou can make yourself as opposed
to, you know, buying processedfood, uh, do it and see what
happens.
And one of the other things thatI wanted to mention is back on
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those studies back in the 60s,it was a firm belief.
There were so many studies doneabout how fats were making
Americans fat, or sugars weremaking American Americans fat.
And as it turns out, neither onewere true, but they didn't
publicize these studies.
What we found out was thatultra-processed food is what's
(42:25):
making people fat.
Right.
So get healthy, folks.
Get healthy as much as you can.
Um, we want we want you aroundto listen to us for this next
year.
SPEAKER_02 (42:36):
I'll I'll end up side with um number one, look up
coal butter.
SPEAKER_03 (42:40):
Oh, yeah.
Wait, let's talk about that realquick.
SPEAKER_02 (42:43):
Oh my goodness.
SPEAKER_03 (42:44):
I do want people to look up coal butter.
SPEAKER_02 (42:46):
Look up coal butter.
SPEAKER_03 (42:47):
That was a Nazi Germany thing, wasn't it?
SPEAKER_02 (42:49):
For the U-boat um crews.
That's that's how would theykeep them fed on the U-boats?
SPEAKER_03 (42:55):
How sick is that?
SPEAKER_02 (42:56):
That's it's crazy, but it's not even really the
craziest thing.
Like something like that duringNazi Germany and World War II
kind of seems like not that badof a thing.
SPEAKER_03 (43:08):
I'm just saying it's well, and they tried to market
it outside of Germany, and itdidn't really go, so they kind
of stopped it.
But think about the byproductsthat are made.
Oh my god, and that are droppedinto our foods.
Yeah.
Hey, next time you look at alabel, look for those artificial
things, yeah, you know, likeplastics, because plastics are
in your foods now, metals are inyour foods.
(43:30):
So please pay attention to thelabels, pay attention to your
health, do something about it.
We talked about doctors before,and you know, let's face it,
Americans uh most people don'tlisten to the doctors anyway.
You know, doctors say, hey,listen, you need to quit
smoking.
Did you go home and quitsmoking?
Hey, you need to stop eatingthese kinds of foods, and then
they get mad at society or theyget mad that there's no
(43:53):
medicines that are working forthem.
Yeah.
And your doc already told youyou needed to lose 100 pounds,
folks.
Come on, you know, or you neededto lose 30 pounds.
So, you know, you need to lose30 pounds this month.
Yeah, doctor.
That was pretty good.
Okay, well, I think that'sprobably all we have for today.
(44:15):
I'm glad you listened to me, andhopefully you'll look up some
stuff.
And don't take my word for itand don't take Bobby's word for
it.
No, don't.
Absolutely not.
Please look this stuff up.
Look at the studies.
Don't just look on Google.
Search back to the studies ofthese things and find out for
yourself.
We appreciate you joining ushere at the rabbit hole studio
(44:36):
every week.
Be sure to follow us.
We look forward to spending timewith you.
And please like us.
And if you have some feedbackfor us, shoot it on over.
You can go to our website and uhput a message in there.
You can also put a message onour podcast.
Is that correct, Bobby?
SPEAKER_02 (44:53):
Well, on our Facebook page.
SPEAKER_03 (44:55):
On our Facebook page only.
Okay.
Otherwise, sorry.
This is how much I get into it.
Um, otherwise, send us a shortemail at Bloomerinjnexture at
gmail.com.
If you have hate mail, uh, youknow, shove it into some food
somewhere and give it to youremail.
You'll never notice.
You'll never know.
You'll never know.
Okay, until next week, I'm JaneBurke.
(45:16):
And I'm Bobby Joy.
SPEAKER_02 (45:18):
And you're stuck with us later.
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