June 24, 2025 • 36 mins
We all have them – those heart-pounding, palm-sweating moments when something triggers our deepest fears. But when does a healthy caution cross into phobia territory? That's exactly what we're unpacking in this revealing conversation.
Fear, as we discover, serves as our natural alarm system. It's that gut response alerting us to potential danger, helping us dodge threats before they strike. A phobia, however, hijacks this system entirely. It transforms reasonable caution into overwhelming anxiety, often completely disproportionate to any actual risk involved.
The personal stories shared in this episode vividly illustrate how differently phobias manifest. Jane describes her paralyzing ophidiophobia (fear of snakes) that can literally cause her to lose consciousness. Dr. Domain reveals the fascinating paradox of his acrophobia (fear of heights) – capable of flying planes thousands of feet up when in control, yet terrified on a ladder just eight feet off the ground. Meanwhile, Bobbi shares her specific fear of driving across water-spanning bridges with her children in the car, haunted by the thought of being unable to save them all in an emergency.
Whether you're curious about the difference between everyday fears and clinical phobias, wondering if your own reactions qualify as phobic, or simply fascinated by the psychology behind our most primal emotions, this episode offers insights that might just help you understand yourself – or someone you care about – a little better. What's your biggest fear? We'd love to hear your story at boomerandgenxer@gmail.com.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome you all to the phobia workshop.
My name is Lee and I actuallyhave a phobia myself.
I have a fear of the word whichis spelt a a gh exclamation
mark that word.
Why don't you tell me aboutyourselves?
Speaker 2 (00:15):
starting with you.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Hi everyone, my name is Jim and I have a fear of
apologies.
Sorry, sorry, ah.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Ah, welcome everyone to today's show.
A Boomer and a Gen Xer walkinto a bar, coming to you from
the Rabbit Hole Studio, whereyou, as our listener, will
experience some wit and wisdom,some smartassery and a mother
and daughter questioning.
(00:43):
Are we even related?
My name is Bobbi Joy and myco-host is my mom, jane, and we
are here to entertain for alittle while.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Uh-oh, I'm down here in fear of speaking, because you
were yelling at me earlier andI didn't want you to yell at me
again so I have a feeling.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Maybe it's a phobia?
Speaker 3 (01:03):
I'm not really sure, but our topic today is fears and
phobias.
Fears and phobias what's thedifference?
What is the difference betweena fear and a phobia?
I can tell you, can you?
Speaker 2 (01:13):
I can all right, a fear is kind of a normal
response.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
It's a natural and often helpful emotion that kind
of helps people to not onlyperceive what's going on but
just kind of react to what'sgoing on.
It can be something that youcan adapt to, but fear also
helps you to avoid danger right,and so it's typically something
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that has some type ofproportionate danger to it, but
not a lot.
It's what we perceive as adanger.
Phobia, on the other hand,involves an exaggerated or
persistent fear that is reallyoften out of proportion for what
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the actual danger is, ifthere's even a danger there at
all, right, so it's a perceiveddanger and it's really excessive
.
And uh, phobia comes withintense anxiety that is
triggered by whatever the fearis.
Now, it could be a situation,it could be an object, it could
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be a word, I suppose like sorryit could be.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
It could even be photos of things yeah, it could
not even the real thing, just aphoto of it oh my hmm okay.
Well, that's the show, folks,and uh so, um, let's talk about
that.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
Let's talk about do you have any?
Let's start with fears.
Do you have any fears, just fearwell, I mean, you know the
normal ones of you know being afailure to my kids or losing my
house, things like that you knowthe fears that drive me every
day to not be a shit bag so thenormal human fears of being an
adult really kind of yeah, yeah,I'd say so I mean I have other,
(03:03):
you know, fears that kind ofcame along as a result of things
happening like your child like,like one specific child um, who
survived a horrific incident inschool only to uh repeatedly
crash his motorcycle on me.
Yeah, so yeah, that is a fearright there it is, that is a
(03:27):
fear.
So I have some fears thatusually come to mind around 2.30
, 3 o'clock in the morning whenI'm trying to sleep and they
wake me up and go hey, let'sworry about what you did back
when you were in fourth grade Inmusic class.
(03:51):
Well, that's overthinking,overthinking, I think more
anxiety and overthinking thatprobably is.
So the fears, the fears that Ihave, are have to do with,
probably, things that couldhappen that haven't happened,
right, right, um, that's whatmine are anyway.
So I I think about oh gosh,what if I'm gone and I get into
a car wreck and my dogs are hereand nobody's here to come get
my dogs and somebody forgetsthat I have the dogs and they
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starve to death?
Speaker 2 (04:15):
I mean, are you going to outlive me, because I know
you have the dogs?
Speaker 3 (04:21):
No, I'm saying that if something happened.
I mean, I've always been hereto let the dogs out, I know, but
I'm just saying that ifsomething happened to me, okay,
you know it's like oh, are theygoing to check on the dogs, make
sure the dogs are okay, or youknow, are they gonna do this or
that?
I mean, there's a lot of stuffthat I think about if something
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happened where I wouldn't followthrough on it.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
I'd have to rely on you guys to follow okay so
that's your example and you knowit's hey dr domain, she, she
put the dogs above you bud hecan think on his end and he can
feed himself.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Okay, he can drive he can drive to the store.
He can get his own hamburgerfrom the doctor domain.
Check on my dogs well, I mean Idon't worry about like, do you
worry about if, like, the billswould get paid, if some you know
, do you worry about that stuff?
(05:17):
You do I know I'm poor.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Yeah, I work about that stuff.
I get five dollars in my bankand my check engine light comes
on.
I am not in a good place, butyeah so.
So I have fears so like, areyou fear?
Are you fearful of?
Like certain plants?
Like, are you fearful of thecolor blue?
No, some of the things thatI've heard over the years no, I
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don't have any of those fearswhatsoever.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
I just I don't.
I don't have anything.
You those?
Speaker 2 (05:44):
fears whatsoever, I just I don't.
I don't have anything you know,not scared of heights?
I know you're not scared ofheights, I'm not scared of
heights.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
I'm not afraid of dark places.
I'm not afraid to be in, youknow, not close to Open water.
I am not claustrophobic.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
The only time I've ever had a water issue is we
were scuba diving and the water.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
The sea was really, really rough, so you shouldn't
have been scuba diving.
Well, no, not scuba diving, didI say scuba?
Speaker 2 (06:14):
snorkeling, dear lord , you still shouldn't have been
snorkeling.
That's even worse yeah, sosnorkeling.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
What happened was?
It made me really sick, and soI had to get back in the boat,
yeah, so okay, that was.
That was kind of fearful for me, because when people I guess
that is kind of a fear, becausewhen I watch shows where people
are drowning, yeah, and wementioned this.
Yeah, suffocation I hold mybreath and it's like, oh, I
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can't breathe.
Yeah, that's kind of a fear,isn't it?
Yeah, that could be considereda fear.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
So?
So what are your fears there,bobby?
Um, besides the normal stuff,uh, driving over bridges that
are over water.
If my kids are in the car, why?
and I know that's reallyspecific.
I know it is.
I've always had an issue withbridges.
Um, I'm not sure where it camefrom or anything, because you
know whatever, but if mychildren are strapped,
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especially when they wereyounger, if they are strapped in
that car and I'm driving overwater on a bridge, I'm white
knuckling it, I'm barelybreathing the whole time, I mean
eyes forward.
I don't care if my kids arescreaming in the back, because
my biggest fear was I wouldn'tbe able to get to all of the
kids to release them before theydrowned.
(07:26):
Yeah, that was I mean, and itstill is, even though my kids
are basically grown.
Yeah, that's a fear of mine.
If I have them in the car andI'm driving over a bridge and
there's water underneath, that'smy big fear, okay I think
that's a, I mean, that's a goodone right there, but it isn't
that you're afraid of heights.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Being on a bridge, no , oh God, no, no if I'm by
myself, I mean it's whatever.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Okay, but yeah, like I said, especially when they
were younger, in car seats andstuff, my biggest fear was if we
hit that water, I'm not goingto have enough time to release
them all.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
I think about that, though, too, when.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
I have somebody else in the car, especially one of
the littles.
If I have a little in the car,it's like, oh, I think about
that, oh yeah.
And when I have all my kids inin the car with me at the same
time, it's like this is myentire world right here.
Like this is my family in thiscar.
What if some jackass decides tonot, you know, go?
Speaker 3 (08:22):
by the line and you go in the pond or into the river
or even just getting liket-boned at a red light you know,
things like that that yeah thatscares the crap out of me I've
thought about that when I've hadlittles in the car, and that's
why I don't drink with them inthe car anymore.
So what about you, doctor?
What about Domain?
What are your fears?
Speaker 1 (08:45):
I developed this really, and this is recently.
It's called trypophobiaTrypophobia.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
No, I've heard of this, okay.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
So well, it's not necessarily.
I don't know if it's a fear orjust a really strong aversion.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Is it like an anxiety about tryp the fish?
It's the sight of clusters ofholes oh yeah, that's right.
Holes or bumps or something, orjust a really strong aversion.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Is it like an anxiety about tripe the fish?
Speaker 2 (09:07):
It's the sight of clusters of holes.
Oh yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Holes or bumps or something.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Yeah, it's not really a.
I don't think it's likeofficially recognized as a
phobia, from what I read.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
But I don't.
I think it's just a mentaldisorder.
It's like an avoidance.
It's probably a mental disordermore than anything.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Probably, I'm just saying Keep that sponge away
from me.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
I was aware of that because you brought that to my
attention before.
But you also have another fearthat I'm aware of no-transcript.
We're listening.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
We're listening, we're listening, we listen and
we don't touch the fear of beingtoo successful.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
What.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
What.
What is it?
Speaker 1 (09:45):
No.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
About being too successful.
Is that what he said?
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
He's using avoidance.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
He is no, what is it?
What is it he?
Speaker 2 (09:53):
doesn't even know.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
No, I don't even know what it is A fear of heights.
Oh my goodness, yeah.
So we had to replace one of theair conditioners on top of that
big old motorhome out there.
And guess who had to get upthere and who had to carry a
nine-ton stupid air conditionerup?
Speaker 1 (10:14):
there I provided support.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
You both provided support yeah, and.
Corey was here, but they'reheavy and anyway I was up there
like four times trying to getthings taken care of.
So phobias are recognized as aform of anxiety disorder.
Specifically, they'recategorized as kind of like a
social anxiety disorder.
(10:37):
They involve persistent,excessive fear or anxiety
triggered by a specific object,situation or circumstance.
Now I have a phobia yes, you doI know what it is.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
I know what it is and I.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
I suffered with it for a lot of my life too yeah,
it's called.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
It's called nomophobia nomo because you got
no more money no, it's a fear ofbeing without your phone that's
not true.
I think that's true that is nottrue.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Yeah, you have a fear .
That's a fear, that's not aphobia.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
She no I don't have a phobia.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
A phobia does include an irrational fear it does a
phobia does yeah it's veryirrational, it's more your
reaction or extreme or extremeyeah it is yeah I would say that
, yeah, nomophobia you're crazyphobia.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
I'm not having my phone.
Yeah, I could put my phone uplonger, then why?
Speaker 2 (11:28):
doesn't she ever answer it?
Speaker 3 (11:29):
because I'll call right back.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
What did you throw?
Speaker 3 (11:34):
it in the lake that's another fear.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
I told you yeah, I told my phone.
My phone's a ringing phobia,and she doesn't want to answer
it.
Oh, my goodness.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
She's probably one of them.
Damn kids yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
I told you that I could go without my phone and
that's no problem.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
We need to have a challenge.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
I'm good with that.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Let's do it.
I mean I'm not going toparticipate but y'all can I've
also told you.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
She's going to encourage it.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
She's going to draw the bet up.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
I've also told you what it means when I say I'll
call you right back.
Yeah, go about your life Enjoyyour day.
I'm not going to come back andcall you back.
So I do have a phobia and Iwill mention what that phobia is
.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Can you even say the words yeah, oh, okay.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Yeah, no, I have a phobia of snakes, and it's not
people go.
Oh, I'm scared of snakes too.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
No, no, no.
No, you have no idea.
I have so many stories you haveno idea.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
And I remember my ex-sister-in-law said oh, there
was a bull snake in my basementand she had a finished basement
and everything.
And and it's like where'd thatcome from?
And she goes oh, it came up tothe drain, I'd burn that mother
down.
I'm not.
That house would have beenburnt down before you could even
tell the story.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Okay, like when you tried to run over the air
conditioner on the south sidebecause of the snake.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
Yeah, well, when I was a kid.
This is really sad.
My you know we were super pooryeah and my mom had a big garden
.
God love her.
She, you know, worked hard atthis garden and she's a good
gardener.
And we did have a little bittysnapper riding lawnmower that my
dad pieced together and Iremember she'd tell me to go out
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and get tomatoes out of thegarden.
And I ain't walking throughthat grass to get to the garden.
It's not like I had to walkfour miles uphill, I didn't, it
was just in the backyard.
I'd get the mower out and Iwould ride it to the garden.
And this is what's the saddestpart she would plant like 60
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tomato plants because she cannedeverything Right, because we
had to, and so I would get outthere to get the tomatoes and I
didn't want to get off the mower, so I would run over the tomato
plants to get them.
Oh my gosh, she'd go.
I know that I planted 60 tomatoplants.
What happened?
Speaker 2 (14:08):
You just had her convinced that she was losing
her shit.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
Well, you know kind of like what you guys do to me,
right, but I do.
I definitely have a phobia, andlet me tell you how that works.
It closes off my throat.
I cannot breathe.
I have passed out easily.
If it comes up on and I have anephew I'm not going to mention
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his name, but the littlebutthead he'll send me reels or
some type of meme or somethingthat's got some snake in it that
pops up, yeah, in this stupidreel.
Just to scare the crap out ofme.
I can't even touch the tv orpictures or anything like that
because they're snakes.
(14:52):
So, or the snake skin bootsyeah I can't.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Yeah, I, I can't.
Snake.
Skin creeps me out.
Now I did.
For a very, very long time Isuffered with the same phobia,
and I mean it was a phobia towhere, yeah, you had a hard time
breathing, you couldn't move.
There were times that I mean Iliterally peed my pants seeing a
snake I mean there was nothingfunny about it?
No, and lucky for me, I had asister who is not scared of
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snakes.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
Yeah, and so she found that out early on and
chased me all the time.
She put one in the mailbox onetime.
Oh god, the fear of snakes yeahI can't remember off the top of
my head.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
I just know I have a phobia of snakes, so um she put
one in the mailbox one timeophidiophobia, I think, and I, I
, yeah, ophidiophobia, I almostthat's have, yeah, so next time
you go to the bar you can say,hey, don't break out the snakes,
I have ophidiophobia, so here'swhy you don't tell people now
(15:50):
that I've told everybody on thepodcast yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
Here's why you don't.
When I was working out at theplant, I had told the guys.
I said I'm just going to tellyou right now.
I have a phobia of snakesBecause you know we had what?
100 and some acres out thereRight.
Plus we had to be on site andall that stuff and I said if it
lies it dies.
So if you see it, you got tokill it.
And that's the rule now.
And I said if you ever bring asnake up to me or you try to put
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one in my truck, you try tobring one up to the office, I
will fire you for horseplay.
There's no question about it.
I will fire you for that.
And fair warning.
It was fair warning because Ipass out.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Yeah, it's a literal medical issue with you when it
happens yeah, and so what do youdo?
Speaker 3 (16:36):
I mean, you know, uh, jane come can't come to the
meeting right now because shepassed out.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Can somebody go pick up Jane on Field 3, Tower 2?
We found a snake.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
I even thought about getting hypnotized.
I wonder if any of ourlisteners, because of their
phobias, have ever tried to gethypnotized.
So what's your phobia?
Phobia.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Bobby.
So that was my big one for mostof my life you also have one of
getting uh, what's that?
Speaker 3 (17:08):
uh disease on a ship scurvy.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
That's not a phobia, that's just something you think
about three times a day is thata fear?
yeah, yeah, but, and I'll tellmy, you know, my snake stuff is
I.
I think it was a little bit ofyour phobia, you know, kind of
trickling down to me, because Isaw how you reacted and my first
thought is, oh god, you know,this must be really bad.
(17:32):
Now, when I moved back fromtexas in 2013, one of my really
good friends, who we've beenbest friends since we were 13
years old, he had started hisbusiness of breeding ball
pythons and so he had, I mean,dozens of snakes in his house,
and I always told him I said,I'm not coming to visit you, I
can't do it Like I cannot do it,even just knowing they're in
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the house.
I can't step in your house.
And so we talked for, I mean,it took a few years between
years between you know, everytime I would come over, he would
cover and hide all the snakes,you know, just to get me in the
house, to get over that part anda little girl right.
But at the end of it, I actuallywalked up to one of his cages
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and there was a snake I reallyliked called dick neck, and he'd
had him since a baby, and youcan imagine why he was called
dick neck um, but he'd had himsince he was, and you can
imagine why he was called dickneck um.
But he'd had him since he was ababy and he was one of the ones
that he used to desensitize me,basically to these snakes.
And I walked right in and Ipicked him up right out of his
cage.
I said nothing to nobody, Ijust did it and it was like a
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whole switch had turned.
But let me tell you it doesn'twork for garter snakes, because
those things are directly fromhell.
I don't care if it's dead oralive.
If I see a dead garter snake, Imean like I feel my heart stop.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Isn't it funny how that works, because it doesn't
matter.
It could be a snake.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
That's two inches long and I'm See, and I only
seem to have an aversion togarter snakes I mean the other
snakes I have no problem whatabout bull, snakes and stuff?
No, I don't have a problem withthose.
Hmm, no, it doesn't matter howbig they are, I mean the
venomous ones, not an issue.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
So literally, garter snakes so there's a lot of
people out there that havephobias, and I mean phobias to
like spiders.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Yeah, spiders don't bother me at all I could care
less about spiders none of theother critters bother me.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
Yeah, none of them, and so a lot of people.
So I should post this out onour official website for boomer
and gen xer.
I posted it today in ourgeorgia house we had one of the
cameras.
Oh I that we were watching thecat go across the front porch
and here's this huge old spiderright into the camera and it
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looks like the spider'sginormous and the cat is like
well, that's not our cat andthat's not our spider, but I
should post that on.
Let's do that.
We'll post it on the officialwebsite.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
The Facebook page.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Yeah, so that people can see it.
But some people have that tospiders and I think that's more
common than what we think.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
I think it is too, and anytime I find out that I
have a friend or someone I knowwith a phobia, I know what that
feels like.
I'm not going to screw aroundwith it.
That's not something that I'mgoing to joke about.
It's not something I'm going tochase you with or anything like
that.
I understand that it's a realthing.
Now, if it's just a fear andyou just scream like a girl type
of thing, okay, I'm going tomake fun of you.
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But no real phobias.
I mean, they're nothing to messaround with.
They actually have majorconsequences for the person who
has them.
It's not like you can just go,oh well, be around them more and
you'll be fine.
That's that's like telling anasthmatic to go outside for some
fresh air because their asthmawill be cured.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
So do you know what the most common phobia is?
And it used to be that peoplewould say well, it's a fear.
You know your biggest fear outthere is public speaking.
That is not true any longer.
I would say it's probablyheights.
It is really your heights.
Yeah, yeah, it is that'sawesome.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
I don't have any fear of heights.
I have fear of the landing if Ifall I fear that because it
stops you so quick.
Yeah, I mean that that's what'sgonna hurt is the landing
nothing else is gonna hurt onthe way down.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
So you would understand that fear of heights
has been pretty prominent,wouldn't you there, Dr Domain?
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Yeah, I'm okay in a plane.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Yeah because, you're a pilot.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
If I'm flying the plane, I feel like I have
control, so I can be thousandsof feet over the ground and I
had asked you that.
But on the ladder.
It's not my thing.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
Isn't that wild?
Because I had asked you that.
I said how can you be a pilotand have a fear of heights?
It's so weird.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
Well, if you're in control.
Yeah, it's different.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
If you're in control, yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
Same with a car.
I'm a horrible passengerbecause I'm terrified, no matter
who's driving.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
I mean, I'm terrified , so I drive.
Let me go back to you, doc, umyou sometimes have issues.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Going over a bridge, though, and you're in control of
the vehicle.
Yeah, well, it's the height.
I think that's part of it, andit might be mixed with what
bobby was saying is it the fearthat I was?
Just looking that up, it's,it's gero.
Phobia is a fear of bridges Idon't know so much the bridge
itself, but just maybe thetravel over the bridge now is it
?
Speaker 2 (22:22):
is it a specific height for you, like, are you
more fearful if you know thatthere's a possibility you could
survive but be a vegetable?
Or like you know because up ina plane you're not going to
survive?
If you fall out of a freakingairplane or you know things like
that, there's not a good chanceof survival?
Speaker 3 (22:39):
The likelihood is slim, yeah, the probability is
slim, yeah.
The probability.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
But I mean, if you fall off, say the motor home, I
mean you're, you're most likelygonna survive, but then there's
a chance you're gonna be.
You're just retarded, wearing ahelmet the rest of your life
licking elbows or lickingwindows.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
Hey, go out and clean the windows.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
I think that's the limit.
Is the height of the RV?
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Yeah, yeah, okay so anything that and below you get
kind of shaky on yeah.
Like maybe the roof of a house.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Maybe eight foot.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Yeah, that's probably where it starts.
Anything above that is yeah.
Yeah, You're good.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
So what do you think the second phobia is?
Speaker 2 (23:23):
Okay, so it's fair heights Um.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
I think it's a recent phobia too.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
A recent one, I don't know my opinion.
Fear of no Wi-Fi?
No, but that's a good one.
Cell signal.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
That might be on the list, though, but fear of
spiders is number two, oh, okay.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
And then number three , legit.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
Arachnophobia.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Yep arachnophobia Okay.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
Well, I shouldn't say these are in order.
Really, I shouldn't even saythat, because some of them are
not.
There's different kinds ofphobias.
There's generic, based on youreveryday life, and then there's
other types of things that comeup that are psychological, so
acrobaphobia.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Here she goes.
She does the best she can withthe tongue that she has
Acrophobia, fear of acrobats.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
There's the fear of has Acrophobia.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Fear of acrobats Is the fear of heights.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
Oh close, aerophobia is the fear of flying.
So there is.
You know, it isn't just thefear of heights.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Right.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
We talked about arachnophobia, orphideophobia,
orphideophobia.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Smile so I can see if half of your face is drooping,
I'm drilling down here, you knowthat's not funny.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
Drooping, I'm drooping down here, you know
that's not funny.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
Don't say that's not funny to me.
I'll start laughing.
That's not funny.
That is the fear of snakes yousaid it earlier, dr Domain, I
didn't say it earlier.
Yeah, a phidiophobia.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
Cinephobia is the fear of A movie.
No Cinema, I don't know.
Cynics, aphidiophobia,cinephobia is the fear of a
movie cinema cynics, criticalthinking dogs trypanophobia is
the fear of cooking bedpans.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
We could never get these, could we?
Is the fear of cooking Bedpans.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
We could never get these, could we Injections?
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Needles.
Oh, and you know, there is adifference between the fear of
like an injection or a blooddraw and the fear of a tattoo,
so Completely different.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
So do you?
Are you fearful of getting yourblood drawn or of?
Speaker 2 (25:49):
a shot no.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
So do you just watch it?
Oh yeah, yeah, me too.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Oh, I watch yeah, that's a real thing.
So my son and my ex-wife hadthe same condition as vasovagal
and actually they have physicalreaction to it.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
Meaning like they pass out.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Yeah, yeah, they pass out, they like clock out.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
Because of blood, I was out.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Yeah, yeah they pass out.
They like clock out, because Iwas in the hospital.
Yeah, blood, I was in thehospital and my son coughed up a
little blood because he hadgotten his tonsils out and she
stood up to excuse herself.
We're in the hospital.
She walked like four paces andboom, yeah, right there at the
hospital.
Yeah, it's a physical thing, itturns into a physical hospital.
Yeah, it's a physical thing, itturns into a physical thing.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Yeah, I don't understand.
I mean, it's in your body andyou see it all the time.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
I don't have any problem watching anybody else
Could you?
Speaker 2 (26:39):
imagine being a woman on your menstrual cycle and
having that type of issue.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
How does that work?
Pneumophobia, I think is it,yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Fear of blood.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
Yeah, how does that work?
Well, yeah, but you just saidthat she had a phobia of blood.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
I wasn't around, I didn't hang out during those
moments.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Oh, so she just passed out on the bathroom floor
and free bled all over theplace.
What'd you do?
Speaker 3 (26:58):
Go on a fishing trip.
Every time she had her period,he took off in the plane.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
That's right.
I'm working on my own fearsBack off.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
I wonder, how that would work, though I mean
honestly, because I don't know.
Could you imagine somebody thatgets nosebleeds all the time
and you pass out every time yousee blood?
That would be crazy.
I'd have to wear a helmet, myyoungest son is the same.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
He'll turn ghost white and he'll just shut down.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
That's crazy to me.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
Can't give blood, not a.
Thing.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
So again, I would kind of like to know what our
listeners, how they react,because not everybody reacts the
same right.
Some people scream, some peoplelose their breath, some people
pass out, some people run, somepeople throw up, some people
throw up exactly.
I'd like to know how ourlisteners respond and what their
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phobia or their fear is.
If it's a phobia, it's going tobe pretty severe.
If it's a fear, it's a fear.
That's not that big of a deal.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Well, they can still be severe to the person, it's
just not a.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
I don't believe that.
That number one phobia, whatdid you say it was?
It was like public speaking.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
No, it used to be public speaking, now it's
heights I don't agree with thatokay.
Well, thank you for youropinion.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
No, I'm just saying I , I think, well, I and I, I
think that with the evolution ofsocial media and all these
other garbage sites, that a lotof people have anxiety around
social, social, anxiety.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
What would that be called?
Speaker 1 (28:31):
fear of being a human and interacting with folks in a
normal manner phobia I don'tknow what you call it well um,
I'm just saying that I thinkthat's the real thing I think
you're probably right, but Idon't, I don't know that it's
like officially categorized, butum, and it's not a phobia,
though.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
It's just a fear, because I don't react like a
human extreme, oh um mysophobia,which is excessive fear of
germs and dirt oh, wait a second.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
You don't have excessive reactions I don't have
a phobia.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
Yes, you do no, yes you do no, help me out Domain.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
What was the phobia again?
Speaker 3 (29:11):
Germs and dirt.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
Germaphobe yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
I don't know it's probably a slang.
Is it a fear for her or is it aphobia?
Speaker 3 (29:19):
I think it's just a fear.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
It's a phobia.
You got it 100%.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
I think she's just being cautious.
She doesn't want to catchanything.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
He's such a Just suck up.
Gonna have that milk boneunderwear later.
So there is a social phobiawhich is a phobia, excuse me, a
social phobia which is a fear ofsocial situations.
I think a lot of people havethat, especially those who you
know sit in their parents'basement and play games all the
time and can't really face thereal world.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Well, and I think a lot of this did pop up during
the pandemic, when everybody waslocked down as well.
I mean, you have collegestudents that were coming into
college when that started andthey graduated before they could
even attend a class in person.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
Yeah, that's true, that is true.
So there is what's called acyberphobia.
A cyberphobia, okay, or?
Speaker 2 (30:14):
technophobia, so the fear of AI becoming too powerful
.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
You know, that's my fear.
I'm serial as a heart attack.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
I mean they can have it.
I'm serious Something's got towork.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
I mean everything else breaks.
I mean, nothing runs right andyet you're going to put these
robots Anyway.
So cyberphobia or technophobiais the fear or anxiety
associated with being away fromor without a Wi-Fi connection.
Boom, boom, yep, yep, yep yep,it's often linked to nomophobia,
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which is a fear of beingwithout your mobile phone.
That's not me.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
You keep pointing at me and that's not true, I mean,
I'm telling you every time she.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
You do have anxiety.
I think she throws it in thelake all the time.
Yes, you're like where's myphone?
Your technophobia.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Where's my will be it just raves.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
You know what it's true.
It is true Admit it.
You're like where's my whoopee?
Bring it up to me.
No, yes.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
Because you do it as much, if not more.
Where's my phone?
Where'd I put my keys?
Where's my coat?
Did you see where I put that?
Speaker 2 (31:25):
screwdriver, I just sat down.
It has nothing to do with notbeing able to be without your
mobile phone.
You just went off.
Okay, what did?
Speaker 1 (31:32):
you call it Deflecting.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
Yeah, she's deflecting, deflecting.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
I'm taking lessons from Bobby on how to speak
highbrow, how to speak eyebrow,highbrow, highbrow, highbrow.
Oh, I see.
So, bobby, did you tell us whatyour?
Speaker 2 (31:50):
phobia was.
Yeah, I said the snake thing.
I mean the garter snake thingis definitely Other than that.
I don't know that I actuallyhave.
I mean I have an intense fearof open ocean.
I definitely have that.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
You know, like the deepest parts and stuff, I don't
want to see a megalodon.
I don't want the giant squid, Idon't want to see a megalodon.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
I don't want the giant squid, I don't want any of
it.
I want to see all that.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
That's why that's If you still see the kraken, the
kraken.
Oh my God, you got to say itthat way.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
Now would I go like Would I learn how to the kraken
the?
Speaker 1 (32:22):
kraken, the kraken.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
Scuba dive Well, even in open ocean.
Because I want to go to theBermuda Triangle, I would dive
there.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
Dr Domain does.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
Wait, wasn't that on an earlier episode we talked
about superpowers?
Speaker 3 (32:37):
Yes, mine was to go into water as deep as I possibly
could.
Well, but I don't want to godeep.
I'll go see the wrecks, butopen ocean.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
I can't see land.
No, no, thank you, nope.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
That's interesting.
Or you could put a.
You know, if your mom had thesuperpower, put a saddle on her
and you could go wherever youwant in the ocean.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
What am I going to do ?
What Bring it through her ears?
That is so bizarre.
How would I bring it?
That is so bizarre, that's aweird superpower.
Why would I want to saddle mymom?
Exactly?
That's a weird superpower.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
Superpower is this a bizarre sexual thing with you.
What is going?
On google search history I knowI don't even want to look at it
saddling up a boomer the fearof dying and not clearing your
search history before yourfamily gets.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
That is fearful.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
that is fearful, or you know your nightstands Clear
those out.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
You know, I mean the granny porn.
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
Hey, you don't know what granny porn's all about.
It's not that bad, it's prettydarn good, oh my God.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
I'm just saying it's just regular porn for you it is
that's right.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
All I have to do is stand in front of the mirror.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
That's it, you go of the mirror.
That's it, you go.
Oh okay, no, we're not.
No, we're not.
We're done with god.
How do we always get into this?
Speaker 3 (33:57):
this is wrong well, I don't know that I have anything
else.
I mean, did you have anythingelse?
Uh, bobby, that, um, youthought was a fear or a phobia?
Speaker 2 (34:09):
I don't think so.
I mean, I really don't care.
I don't have a fear of peoplenot liking me.
I don't have a fear of you knowthings.
Speaker 3 (34:16):
I don't give a shit but so I mean when we were
talking about the snakes andwhen I say a phobia.
I would put my arm inside of analligator, no problem.
I would be covered in spiders,no problem, I would.
You know what else is there?
I mean, there's nothing elsethat I'm fearful of Right.
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It's like, okay, I can do all ofthat, and even a really long
worm is okay, but not a snake, areally long worm.
And here's the biggestadvantage I have having my dogs.
They are snake killers.
They love to kill those snakesand I love the fact that they do
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it mine just barks at them.
Her two brain cells don't worktogether oh man, my, my dogs
need to come over to your housebecause, they teach my dog how
to dog here's how you'resupposed to take care of those
snakes follow us.
Well, I think that's probablyall we have for today.
It was fun, though, and Ireally would like to know what
some of our listeners have forphobias and how they actually
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respond to them, because some ofit can be a real mental or
health issue for a lot of us.
So, anyway, we appreciate youjoining us here at the rabbit
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Speaker 2 (36:20):
Peace out later.
Welcome you all to the phobia workshop.
My name is Lee and I actuallyhave a phobia myself.
I have a fear of the word whichis spelt a a gh exclamation
mark that word.
Why don't you tell me aboutyourselves?
Speaker 2 (00:15):
starting with you.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Hi everyone, my name is Jim and I have a fear of
apologies.
Sorry, sorry, ah.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Ah, welcome everyone to today's show.
A Boomer and a Gen Xer walkinto a bar, coming to you from
the Rabbit Hole Studio, whereyou, as our listener, will
experience some wit and wisdom,some smartassery and a mother
and daughter questioning.
(00:43):
Are we even related?
My name is Bobbi Joy and myco-host is my mom, jane, and we
are here to entertain for alittle while.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Uh-oh, I'm down here in fear of speaking, because you
were yelling at me earlier andI didn't want you to yell at me
again so I have a feeling.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Maybe it's a phobia?
Speaker 3 (01:03):
I'm not really sure, but our topic today is fears and
phobias.
Fears and phobias what's thedifference?
What is the difference betweena fear and a phobia?
I can tell you, can you?
Speaker 2 (01:13):
I can all right, a fear is kind of a normal
response.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
It's a natural and often helpful emotion that kind
of helps people to not onlyperceive what's going on but
just kind of react to what'sgoing on.
It can be something that youcan adapt to, but fear also
helps you to avoid danger right,and so it's typically something
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that has some type ofproportionate danger to it, but
not a lot.
It's what we perceive as adanger.
Phobia, on the other hand,involves an exaggerated or
persistent fear that is reallyoften out of proportion for what
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the actual danger is, ifthere's even a danger there at
all, right, so it's a perceiveddanger and it's really excessive
.
And uh, phobia comes withintense anxiety that is
triggered by whatever the fearis.
Now, it could be a situation,it could be an object, it could
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be a word, I suppose like sorryit could be.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
It could even be photos of things yeah, it could
not even the real thing, just aphoto of it oh my hmm okay.
Well, that's the show, folks,and uh so, um, let's talk about
that.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
Let's talk about do you have any?
Let's start with fears.
Do you have any fears, just fearwell, I mean, you know the
normal ones of you know being afailure to my kids or losing my
house, things like that you knowthe fears that drive me every
day to not be a shit bag so thenormal human fears of being an
adult really kind of yeah, yeah,I'd say so I mean I have other,
(03:03):
you know, fears that kind ofcame along as a result of things
happening like your child like,like one specific child um, who
survived a horrific incident inschool only to uh repeatedly
crash his motorcycle on me.
Yeah, so yeah, that is a fearright there it is, that is a
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fear.
So I have some fears thatusually come to mind around 2.30
, 3 o'clock in the morning whenI'm trying to sleep and they
wake me up and go hey, let'sworry about what you did back
when you were in fourth grade Inmusic class.
(03:51):
Well, that's overthinking,overthinking, I think more
anxiety and overthinking thatprobably is.
So the fears, the fears that Ihave, are have to do with,
probably, things that couldhappen that haven't happened,
right, right, um, that's whatmine are anyway.
So I I think about oh gosh,what if I'm gone and I get into
a car wreck and my dogs are hereand nobody's here to come get
my dogs and somebody forgetsthat I have the dogs and they
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starve to death?
Speaker 2 (04:15):
I mean, are you going to outlive me, because I know
you have the dogs?
Speaker 3 (04:21):
No, I'm saying that if something happened.
I mean, I've always been hereto let the dogs out, I know, but
I'm just saying that ifsomething happened to me, okay,
you know it's like oh, are theygoing to check on the dogs, make
sure the dogs are okay, or youknow, are they gonna do this or
that?
I mean, there's a lot of stuffthat I think about if something
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happened where I wouldn't followthrough on it.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
I'd have to rely on you guys to follow okay so
that's your example and you knowit's hey dr domain, she, she
put the dogs above you bud hecan think on his end and he can
feed himself.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Okay, he can drive he can drive to the store.
He can get his own hamburgerfrom the doctor domain.
Check on my dogs well, I mean Idon't worry about like, do you
worry about if, like, the billswould get paid, if some you know
, do you worry about that stuff?
(05:17):
You do I know I'm poor.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Yeah, I work about that stuff.
I get five dollars in my bankand my check engine light comes
on.
I am not in a good place, butyeah so.
So I have fears so like, areyou fear?
Are you fearful of?
Like certain plants?
Like, are you fearful of thecolor blue?
No, some of the things thatI've heard over the years no, I
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don't have any of those fearswhatsoever.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
I just I don't.
I don't have anything.
You those?
Speaker 2 (05:44):
fears whatsoever, I just I don't.
I don't have anything you know,not scared of heights?
I know you're not scared ofheights, I'm not scared of
heights.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
I'm not afraid of dark places.
I'm not afraid to be in, youknow, not close to Open water.
I am not claustrophobic.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
The only time I've ever had a water issue is we
were scuba diving and the water.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
The sea was really, really rough, so you shouldn't
have been scuba diving.
Well, no, not scuba diving, didI say scuba?
Speaker 2 (06:14):
snorkeling, dear lord , you still shouldn't have been
snorkeling.
That's even worse yeah, sosnorkeling.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
What happened was?
It made me really sick, and soI had to get back in the boat,
yeah, so okay, that was.
That was kind of fearful for me, because when people I guess
that is kind of a fear, becausewhen I watch shows where people
are drowning, yeah, and wementioned this.
Yeah, suffocation I hold mybreath and it's like, oh, I
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can't breathe.
Yeah, that's kind of a fear,isn't it?
Yeah, that could be considereda fear.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
So?
So what are your fears there,bobby?
Um, besides the normal stuff,uh, driving over bridges that
are over water.
If my kids are in the car, why?
and I know that's reallyspecific.
I know it is.
I've always had an issue withbridges.
Um, I'm not sure where it camefrom or anything, because you
know whatever, but if mychildren are strapped,
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especially when they wereyounger, if they are strapped in
that car and I'm driving overwater on a bridge, I'm white
knuckling it, I'm barelybreathing the whole time, I mean
eyes forward.
I don't care if my kids arescreaming in the back, because
my biggest fear was I wouldn'tbe able to get to all of the
kids to release them before theydrowned.
(07:26):
Yeah, that was I mean, and itstill is, even though my kids
are basically grown.
Yeah, that's a fear of mine.
If I have them in the car andI'm driving over a bridge and
there's water underneath, that'smy big fear, okay I think
that's a, I mean, that's a goodone right there, but it isn't
that you're afraid of heights.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Being on a bridge, no , oh God, no, no if I'm by
myself, I mean it's whatever.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Okay, but yeah, like I said, especially when they
were younger, in car seats andstuff, my biggest fear was if we
hit that water, I'm not goingto have enough time to release
them all.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
I think about that, though, too, when.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
I have somebody else in the car, especially one of
the littles.
If I have a little in the car,it's like, oh, I think about
that, oh yeah.
And when I have all my kids inin the car with me at the same
time, it's like this is myentire world right here.
Like this is my family in thiscar.
What if some jackass decides tonot, you know, go?
Speaker 3 (08:22):
by the line and you go in the pond or into the river
or even just getting liket-boned at a red light you know,
things like that that yeah thatscares the crap out of me I've
thought about that when I've hadlittles in the car, and that's
why I don't drink with them inthe car anymore.
So what about you, doctor?
What about Domain?
What are your fears?
Speaker 1 (08:45):
I developed this really, and this is recently.
It's called trypophobiaTrypophobia.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
No, I've heard of this, okay.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
So well, it's not necessarily.
I don't know if it's a fear orjust a really strong aversion.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Is it like an anxiety about tryp the fish?
It's the sight of clusters ofholes oh yeah, that's right.
Holes or bumps or something, orjust a really strong aversion.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Is it like an anxiety about tripe the fish?
Speaker 2 (09:07):
It's the sight of clusters of holes.
Oh yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Holes or bumps or something.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Yeah, it's not really a.
I don't think it's likeofficially recognized as a
phobia, from what I read.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
But I don't.
I think it's just a mentaldisorder.
It's like an avoidance.
It's probably a mental disordermore than anything.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Probably, I'm just saying Keep that sponge away
from me.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
I was aware of that because you brought that to my
attention before.
But you also have another fearthat I'm aware of no-transcript.
We're listening.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
We're listening, we're listening, we listen and
we don't touch the fear of beingtoo successful.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
What.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
What.
What is it?
Speaker 1 (09:45):
No.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
About being too successful.
Is that what he said?
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
He's using avoidance.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
He is no, what is it?
What is it he?
Speaker 2 (09:53):
doesn't even know.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
No, I don't even know what it is A fear of heights.
Oh my goodness, yeah.
So we had to replace one of theair conditioners on top of that
big old motorhome out there.
And guess who had to get upthere and who had to carry a
nine-ton stupid air conditionerup?
Speaker 1 (10:14):
there I provided support.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
You both provided support yeah, and.
Corey was here, but they'reheavy and anyway I was up there
like four times trying to getthings taken care of.
So phobias are recognized as aform of anxiety disorder.
Specifically, they'recategorized as kind of like a
social anxiety disorder.
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They involve persistent,excessive fear or anxiety
triggered by a specific object,situation or circumstance.
Now I have a phobia yes, you doI know what it is.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
I know what it is and I.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
I suffered with it for a lot of my life too yeah,
it's called.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
It's called nomophobia nomo because you got
no more money no, it's a fear ofbeing without your phone that's
not true.
I think that's true that is nottrue.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Yeah, you have a fear .
That's a fear, that's not aphobia.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
She no I don't have a phobia.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
A phobia does include an irrational fear it does a
phobia does yeah it's veryirrational, it's more your
reaction or extreme or extremeyeah it is yeah I would say that
, yeah, nomophobia you're crazyphobia.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
I'm not having my phone.
Yeah, I could put my phone uplonger, then why?
Speaker 2 (11:28):
doesn't she ever answer it?
Speaker 3 (11:29):
because I'll call right back.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
What did you throw?
Speaker 3 (11:34):
it in the lake that's another fear.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
I told you yeah, I told my phone.
My phone's a ringing phobia,and she doesn't want to answer
it.
Oh, my goodness.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
She's probably one of them.
Damn kids yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
I told you that I could go without my phone and
that's no problem.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
We need to have a challenge.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
I'm good with that.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Let's do it.
I mean I'm not going toparticipate but y'all can I've
also told you.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
She's going to encourage it.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
She's going to draw the bet up.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
I've also told you what it means when I say I'll
call you right back.
Yeah, go about your life Enjoyyour day.
I'm not going to come back andcall you back.
So I do have a phobia and Iwill mention what that phobia is
.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Can you even say the words yeah, oh, okay.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Yeah, no, I have a phobia of snakes, and it's not
people go.
Oh, I'm scared of snakes too.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
No, no, no.
No, you have no idea.
I have so many stories you haveno idea.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
And I remember my ex-sister-in-law said oh, there
was a bull snake in my basementand she had a finished basement
and everything.
And and it's like where'd thatcome from?
And she goes oh, it came up tothe drain, I'd burn that mother
down.
I'm not.
That house would have beenburnt down before you could even
tell the story.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Okay, like when you tried to run over the air
conditioner on the south sidebecause of the snake.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
Yeah, well, when I was a kid.
This is really sad.
My you know we were super pooryeah and my mom had a big garden
.
God love her.
She, you know, worked hard atthis garden and she's a good
gardener.
And we did have a little bittysnapper riding lawnmower that my
dad pieced together and Iremember she'd tell me to go out
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and get tomatoes out of thegarden.
And I ain't walking throughthat grass to get to the garden.
It's not like I had to walkfour miles uphill, I didn't, it
was just in the backyard.
I'd get the mower out and Iwould ride it to the garden.
And this is what's the saddestpart she would plant like 60
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tomato plants because she cannedeverything Right, because we
had to, and so I would get outthere to get the tomatoes and I
didn't want to get off the mower, so I would run over the tomato
plants to get them.
Oh my gosh, she'd go.
I know that I planted 60 tomatoplants.
What happened?
Speaker 2 (14:08):
You just had her convinced that she was losing
her shit.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
Well, you know kind of like what you guys do to me,
right, but I do.
I definitely have a phobia, andlet me tell you how that works.
It closes off my throat.
I cannot breathe.
I have passed out easily.
If it comes up on and I have anephew I'm not going to mention
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his name, but the littlebutthead he'll send me reels or
some type of meme or somethingthat's got some snake in it that
pops up, yeah, in this stupidreel.
Just to scare the crap out ofme.
I can't even touch the tv orpictures or anything like that
because they're snakes.
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So, or the snake skin bootsyeah I can't.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Yeah, I, I can't.
Snake.
Skin creeps me out.
Now I did.
For a very, very long time Isuffered with the same phobia,
and I mean it was a phobia towhere, yeah, you had a hard time
breathing, you couldn't move.
There were times that I mean Iliterally peed my pants seeing a
snake I mean there was nothingfunny about it?
No, and lucky for me, I had asister who is not scared of
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snakes.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
Yeah, and so she found that out early on and
chased me all the time.
She put one in the mailbox onetime.
Oh god, the fear of snakes yeahI can't remember off the top of
my head.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
I just know I have a phobia of snakes, so um she put
one in the mailbox one timeophidiophobia, I think, and I, I
, yeah, ophidiophobia, I almostthat's have, yeah, so next time
you go to the bar you can say,hey, don't break out the snakes,
I have ophidiophobia, so here'swhy you don't tell people now
(15:50):
that I've told everybody on thepodcast yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
Here's why you don't.
When I was working out at theplant, I had told the guys.
I said I'm just going to tellyou right now.
I have a phobia of snakesBecause you know we had what?
100 and some acres out thereRight.
Plus we had to be on site andall that stuff and I said if it
lies it dies.
So if you see it, you got tokill it.
And that's the rule now.
And I said if you ever bring asnake up to me or you try to put
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one in my truck, you try tobring one up to the office, I
will fire you for horseplay.
There's no question about it.
I will fire you for that.
And fair warning.
It was fair warning because Ipass out.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Yeah, it's a literal medical issue with you when it
happens yeah, and so what do youdo?
Speaker 3 (16:36):
I mean, you know, uh, jane come can't come to the
meeting right now because shepassed out.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Can somebody go pick up Jane on Field 3, Tower 2?
We found a snake.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
I even thought about getting hypnotized.
I wonder if any of ourlisteners, because of their
phobias, have ever tried to gethypnotized.
So what's your phobia?
Phobia.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Bobby.
So that was my big one for mostof my life you also have one of
getting uh, what's that?
Speaker 3 (17:08):
uh disease on a ship scurvy.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
That's not a phobia, that's just something you think
about three times a day is thata fear?
yeah, yeah, but, and I'll tellmy, you know, my snake stuff is
I.
I think it was a little bit ofyour phobia, you know, kind of
trickling down to me, because Isaw how you reacted and my first
thought is, oh god, you know,this must be really bad.
(17:32):
Now, when I moved back fromtexas in 2013, one of my really
good friends, who we've beenbest friends since we were 13
years old, he had started hisbusiness of breeding ball
pythons and so he had, I mean,dozens of snakes in his house,
and I always told him I said,I'm not coming to visit you, I
can't do it Like I cannot do it,even just knowing they're in
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the house.
I can't step in your house.
And so we talked for, I mean,it took a few years between
years between you know, everytime I would come over, he would
cover and hide all the snakes,you know, just to get me in the
house, to get over that part anda little girl right.
But at the end of it, I actuallywalked up to one of his cages
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and there was a snake I reallyliked called dick neck, and he'd
had him since a baby, and youcan imagine why he was called
dick neck um, but he'd had himsince he was, and you can
imagine why he was called dickneck um.
But he'd had him since he was ababy and he was one of the ones
that he used to desensitize me,basically to these snakes.
And I walked right in and Ipicked him up right out of his
cage.
I said nothing to nobody, Ijust did it and it was like a
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whole switch had turned.
But let me tell you it doesn'twork for garter snakes, because
those things are directly fromhell.
I don't care if it's dead oralive.
If I see a dead garter snake, Imean like I feel my heart stop.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Isn't it funny how that works, because it doesn't
matter.
It could be a snake.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
That's two inches long and I'm See, and I only
seem to have an aversion togarter snakes I mean the other
snakes I have no problem whatabout bull, snakes and stuff?
No, I don't have a problem withthose.
Hmm, no, it doesn't matter howbig they are, I mean the
venomous ones, not an issue.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
So literally, garter snakes so there's a lot of
people out there that havephobias, and I mean phobias to
like spiders.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Yeah, spiders don't bother me at all I could care
less about spiders none of theother critters bother me.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
Yeah, none of them, and so a lot of people.
So I should post this out onour official website for boomer
and gen xer.
I posted it today in ourgeorgia house we had one of the
cameras.
Oh I that we were watching thecat go across the front porch
and here's this huge old spiderright into the camera and it
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looks like the spider'sginormous and the cat is like
well, that's not our cat andthat's not our spider, but I
should post that on.
Let's do that.
We'll post it on the officialwebsite.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
The Facebook page.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Yeah, so that people can see it.
But some people have that tospiders and I think that's more
common than what we think.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
I think it is too, and anytime I find out that I
have a friend or someone I knowwith a phobia, I know what that
feels like.
I'm not going to screw aroundwith it.
That's not something that I'mgoing to joke about.
It's not something I'm going tochase you with or anything like
that.
I understand that it's a realthing.
Now, if it's just a fear andyou just scream like a girl type
of thing, okay, I'm going tomake fun of you.
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But no real phobias.
I mean, they're nothing to messaround with.
They actually have majorconsequences for the person who
has them.
It's not like you can just go,oh well, be around them more and
you'll be fine.
That's that's like telling anasthmatic to go outside for some
fresh air because their asthmawill be cured.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
So do you know what the most common phobia is?
And it used to be that peoplewould say well, it's a fear.
You know your biggest fear outthere is public speaking.
That is not true any longer.
I would say it's probablyheights.
It is really your heights.
Yeah, yeah, it is that'sawesome.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
I don't have any fear of heights.
I have fear of the landing if Ifall I fear that because it
stops you so quick.
Yeah, I mean that that's what'sgonna hurt is the landing
nothing else is gonna hurt onthe way down.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
So you would understand that fear of heights
has been pretty prominent,wouldn't you there, Dr Domain?
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Yeah, I'm okay in a plane.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Yeah because, you're a pilot.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
If I'm flying the plane, I feel like I have
control, so I can be thousandsof feet over the ground and I
had asked you that.
But on the ladder.
It's not my thing.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
Isn't that wild?
Because I had asked you that.
I said how can you be a pilotand have a fear of heights?
It's so weird.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
Well, if you're in control.
Yeah, it's different.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
If you're in control, yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
Same with a car.
I'm a horrible passengerbecause I'm terrified, no matter
who's driving.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
I mean, I'm terrified , so I drive.
Let me go back to you, doc, umyou sometimes have issues.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Going over a bridge, though, and you're in control of
the vehicle.
Yeah, well, it's the height.
I think that's part of it, andit might be mixed with what
bobby was saying is it the fearthat I was?
Just looking that up, it's,it's gero.
Phobia is a fear of bridges Idon't know so much the bridge
itself, but just maybe thetravel over the bridge now is it
?
Speaker 2 (22:22):
is it a specific height for you, like, are you
more fearful if you know thatthere's a possibility you could
survive but be a vegetable?
Or like you know because up ina plane you're not going to
survive?
If you fall out of a freakingairplane or you know things like
that, there's not a good chanceof survival?
Speaker 3 (22:39):
The likelihood is slim, yeah, the probability is
slim, yeah.
The probability.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
But I mean, if you fall off, say the motor home, I
mean you're, you're most likelygonna survive, but then there's
a chance you're gonna be.
You're just retarded, wearing ahelmet the rest of your life
licking elbows or lickingwindows.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
Hey, go out and clean the windows.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
I think that's the limit.
Is the height of the RV?
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Yeah, yeah, okay so anything that and below you get
kind of shaky on yeah.
Like maybe the roof of a house.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Maybe eight foot.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Yeah, that's probably where it starts.
Anything above that is yeah.
Yeah, You're good.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
So what do you think the second phobia is?
Speaker 2 (23:23):
Okay, so it's fair heights Um.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
I think it's a recent phobia too.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
A recent one, I don't know my opinion.
Fear of no Wi-Fi?
No, but that's a good one.
Cell signal.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
That might be on the list, though, but fear of
spiders is number two, oh, okay.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
And then number three , legit.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
Arachnophobia.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Yep arachnophobia Okay.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
Well, I shouldn't say these are in order.
Really, I shouldn't even saythat, because some of them are
not.
There's different kinds ofphobias.
There's generic, based on youreveryday life, and then there's
other types of things that comeup that are psychological, so
acrobaphobia.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Here she goes.
She does the best she can withthe tongue that she has
Acrophobia, fear of acrobats.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
There's the fear of has Acrophobia.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Fear of acrobats Is the fear of heights.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
Oh close, aerophobia is the fear of flying.
So there is.
You know, it isn't just thefear of heights.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Right.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
We talked about arachnophobia, orphideophobia,
orphideophobia.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Smile so I can see if half of your face is drooping,
I'm drilling down here, you knowthat's not funny.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
Drooping, I'm drooping down here, you know
that's not funny.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
Don't say that's not funny to me.
I'll start laughing.
That's not funny.
That is the fear of snakes yousaid it earlier, dr Domain, I
didn't say it earlier.
Yeah, a phidiophobia.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
Cinephobia is the fear of A movie.
No Cinema, I don't know.
Cynics, aphidiophobia,cinephobia is the fear of a
movie cinema cynics, criticalthinking dogs trypanophobia is
the fear of cooking bedpans.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
We could never get these, could we?
Is the fear of cooking Bedpans.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
We could never get these, could we Injections?
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Needles.
Oh, and you know, there is adifference between the fear of
like an injection or a blooddraw and the fear of a tattoo,
so Completely different.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
So do you?
Are you fearful of getting yourblood drawn or of?
Speaker 2 (25:49):
a shot no.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
So do you just watch it?
Oh yeah, yeah, me too.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Oh, I watch yeah, that's a real thing.
So my son and my ex-wife hadthe same condition as vasovagal
and actually they have physicalreaction to it.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
Meaning like they pass out.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Yeah, yeah, they pass out, they like clock out.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
Because of blood, I was out.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Yeah, yeah they pass out.
They like clock out, because Iwas in the hospital.
Yeah, blood, I was in thehospital and my son coughed up a
little blood because he hadgotten his tonsils out and she
stood up to excuse herself.
We're in the hospital.
She walked like four paces andboom, yeah, right there at the
hospital.
Yeah, it's a physical thing, itturns into a physical hospital.
Yeah, it's a physical thing, itturns into a physical thing.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Yeah, I don't understand.
I mean, it's in your body andyou see it all the time.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
I don't have any problem watching anybody else
Could you?
Speaker 2 (26:39):
imagine being a woman on your menstrual cycle and
having that type of issue.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
How does that work?
Pneumophobia, I think is it,yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Fear of blood.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
Yeah, how does that work?
Well, yeah, but you just saidthat she had a phobia of blood.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
I wasn't around, I didn't hang out during those
moments.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Oh, so she just passed out on the bathroom floor
and free bled all over theplace.
What'd you do?
Speaker 3 (26:58):
Go on a fishing trip.
Every time she had her period,he took off in the plane.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
That's right.
I'm working on my own fearsBack off.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
I wonder, how that would work, though I mean
honestly, because I don't know.
Could you imagine somebody thatgets nosebleeds all the time
and you pass out every time yousee blood?
That would be crazy.
I'd have to wear a helmet, myyoungest son is the same.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
He'll turn ghost white and he'll just shut down.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
That's crazy to me.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
Can't give blood, not a.
Thing.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
So again, I would kind of like to know what our
listeners, how they react,because not everybody reacts the
same right.
Some people scream, some peoplelose their breath, some people
pass out, some people run, somepeople throw up, some people
throw up exactly.
I'd like to know how ourlisteners respond and what their
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phobia or their fear is.
If it's a phobia, it's going tobe pretty severe.
If it's a fear, it's a fear.
That's not that big of a deal.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Well, they can still be severe to the person, it's
just not a.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
I don't believe that.
That number one phobia, whatdid you say it was?
It was like public speaking.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
No, it used to be public speaking, now it's
heights I don't agree with thatokay.
Well, thank you for youropinion.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
No, I'm just saying I , I think, well, I and I, I
think that with the evolution ofsocial media and all these
other garbage sites, that a lotof people have anxiety around
social, social, anxiety.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
What would that be called?
Speaker 1 (28:31):
fear of being a human and interacting with folks in a
normal manner phobia I don'tknow what you call it well um,
I'm just saying that I thinkthat's the real thing I think
you're probably right, but Idon't, I don't know that it's
like officially categorized, butum, and it's not a phobia,
though.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
It's just a fear, because I don't react like a
human extreme, oh um mysophobia,which is excessive fear of
germs and dirt oh, wait a second.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
You don't have excessive reactions I don't have
a phobia.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
Yes, you do no, yes you do no, help me out Domain.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
What was the phobia again?
Speaker 3 (29:11):
Germs and dirt.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
Germaphobe yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
I don't know it's probably a slang.
Is it a fear for her or is it aphobia?
Speaker 3 (29:19):
I think it's just a fear.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
It's a phobia.
You got it 100%.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
I think she's just being cautious.
She doesn't want to catchanything.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
He's such a Just suck up.
Gonna have that milk boneunderwear later.
So there is a social phobiawhich is a phobia, excuse me, a
social phobia which is a fear ofsocial situations.
I think a lot of people havethat, especially those who you
know sit in their parents'basement and play games all the
time and can't really face thereal world.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Well, and I think a lot of this did pop up during
the pandemic, when everybody waslocked down as well.
I mean, you have collegestudents that were coming into
college when that started andthey graduated before they could
even attend a class in person.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
Yeah, that's true, that is true.
So there is what's called acyberphobia.
A cyberphobia, okay, or?
Speaker 2 (30:14):
technophobia, so the fear of AI becoming too powerful
.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
You know, that's my fear.
I'm serial as a heart attack.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
I mean they can have it.
I'm serious Something's got towork.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
I mean everything else breaks.
I mean, nothing runs right andyet you're going to put these
robots Anyway.
So cyberphobia or technophobiais the fear or anxiety
associated with being away fromor without a Wi-Fi connection.
Boom, boom, yep, yep, yep yep,it's often linked to nomophobia,
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which is a fear of beingwithout your mobile phone.
That's not me.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
You keep pointing at me and that's not true, I mean,
I'm telling you every time she.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
You do have anxiety.
I think she throws it in thelake all the time.
Yes, you're like where's myphone?
Your technophobia.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Where's my will be it just raves.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
You know what it's true.
It is true Admit it.
You're like where's my whoopee?
Bring it up to me.
No, yes.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
Because you do it as much, if not more.
Where's my phone?
Where'd I put my keys?
Where's my coat?
Did you see where I put that?
Speaker 2 (31:25):
screwdriver, I just sat down.
It has nothing to do with notbeing able to be without your
mobile phone.
You just went off.
Okay, what did?
Speaker 1 (31:32):
you call it Deflecting.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
Yeah, she's deflecting, deflecting.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
I'm taking lessons from Bobby on how to speak
highbrow, how to speak eyebrow,highbrow, highbrow, highbrow.
Oh, I see.
So, bobby, did you tell us whatyour?
Speaker 2 (31:50):
phobia was.
Yeah, I said the snake thing.
I mean the garter snake thingis definitely Other than that.
I don't know that I actuallyhave.
I mean I have an intense fearof open ocean.
I definitely have that.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
You know, like the deepest parts and stuff, I don't
want to see a megalodon.
I don't want the giant squid, Idon't want to see a megalodon.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
I don't want the giant squid, I don't want any of
it.
I want to see all that.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
That's why that's If you still see the kraken, the
kraken.
Oh my God, you got to say itthat way.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
Now would I go like Would I learn how to the kraken
the?
Speaker 1 (32:22):
kraken, the kraken.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
Scuba dive Well, even in open ocean.
Because I want to go to theBermuda Triangle, I would dive
there.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
Dr Domain does.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
Wait, wasn't that on an earlier episode we talked
about superpowers?
Speaker 3 (32:37):
Yes, mine was to go into water as deep as I possibly
could.
Well, but I don't want to godeep.
I'll go see the wrecks, butopen ocean.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
I can't see land.
No, no, thank you, nope.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
That's interesting.
Or you could put a.
You know, if your mom had thesuperpower, put a saddle on her
and you could go wherever youwant in the ocean.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
What am I going to do ?
What Bring it through her ears?
That is so bizarre.
How would I bring it?
That is so bizarre, that's aweird superpower.
Why would I want to saddle mymom?
Exactly?
That's a weird superpower.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
Superpower is this a bizarre sexual thing with you.
What is going?
On google search history I knowI don't even want to look at it
saddling up a boomer the fearof dying and not clearing your
search history before yourfamily gets.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
That is fearful.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
that is fearful, or you know your nightstands Clear
those out.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
You know, I mean the granny porn.
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
Hey, you don't know what granny porn's all about.
It's not that bad, it's prettydarn good, oh my God.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
I'm just saying it's just regular porn for you it is
that's right.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
All I have to do is stand in front of the mirror.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
That's it, you go of the mirror.
That's it, you go.
Oh okay, no, we're not.
No, we're not.
We're done with god.
How do we always get into this?
Speaker 3 (33:57):
this is wrong well, I don't know that I have anything
else.
I mean, did you have anythingelse?
Uh, bobby, that, um, youthought was a fear or a phobia?
Speaker 2 (34:09):
I don't think so.
I mean, I really don't care.
I don't have a fear of peoplenot liking me.
I don't have a fear of you knowthings.
Speaker 3 (34:16):
I don't give a shit but so I mean when we were
talking about the snakes andwhen I say a phobia.
I would put my arm inside of analligator, no problem.
I would be covered in spiders,no problem, I would.
You know what else is there?
I mean, there's nothing elsethat I'm fearful of Right.
(34:37):
It's like, okay, I can do all ofthat, and even a really long
worm is okay, but not a snake, areally long worm.
And here's the biggestadvantage I have having my dogs.
They are snake killers.
They love to kill those snakesand I love the fact that they do
(35:00):
it mine just barks at them.
Her two brain cells don't worktogether oh man, my, my dogs
need to come over to your housebecause, they teach my dog how
to dog here's how you'resupposed to take care of those
snakes follow us.
Well, I think that's probablyall we have for today.
It was fun, though, and Ireally would like to know what
some of our listeners have forphobias and how they actually
(35:24):
respond to them, because some ofit can be a real mental or
health issue for a lot of us.
So, anyway, we appreciate youjoining us here at the rabbit
hole studio.
Be sure to follow us.
We look forward to spendingtime with you guys each and
every week.
I don't know if you saw out onour facebook page, but we hit
(35:44):
some milestones and we are soexcited about that yes, we are
in 11 countries now and 161cities and um.
This past week we hit 2 000downloads, so we were pretty
happy about that, so we'removing forward.
Please like us.
If you have some positivefeedback for us or if there's a
topic that you want us to talkabout, drop us a short email at
(36:07):
boomer and gen x or at gmailcom.
If you have hate mail notinterested, send that over to
bobby I'll take it until nextweek.
I'm jane burke and I'm bobbyjoy, and you're stuck with us.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
Peace out later.
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