October 28, 2025 • 28 mins
Ever had a wild destination vacation? A buffet line on a rocking ship is no one’s idea of fun—especially after a notorious cruise documentary sears a certain plumbing image into your brain. We ditch the decks and steer into the strange: mirror-flat salt deserts that swallow the horizon, a Soviet-era gas crater that’s still burning, and a cat sanctuary island where the purrs outnumber people. We also set our “lottery list” in stone—CERN’s Large Hadron Collider and the Chernobyl exclusion zone—because curiosity and caution can share the same suitcase.
Our adventure maps keep bending toward the uncanny. We talk Paris’s bone-lined catacombs, abandoned coal towns that still smolder, geothermal hellscapes in New Zealand, and the stark halls of Port Arthur’s penal colony in Tasmania. Along the way, we chase experiences that teach—ninja training in Japan, a day cooking with a chef in Paris—and weigh the ethics of dark tourism with a bold idea: a serial killer route designed like a ghost tour, grounded in public records and survivor-respect, meant to illuminate patterns rather than sensationalize harm.
We close by untangling voodoo and hoodoo with care—religion versus folk magic, ritual versus practice—and what real cultural immersion should look like in places like Benin, New Orleans, and Savannah. If your bucket list is ready for more than beaches and bars, this conversation offers a compass for travel that rearranges your thinking without losing your sense of humor. Hit play, subscribe for new episodes, and tell us the weirdest destination you’d add to the map—we’re building the next route with you.
email: boomerandgenxer@gmail.com
Mark as Played
Transcript
Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
SPEAKER_01 (00:16):
Welcome everyone to today's show.
Boomer and Gen X are welcome toa bar.
Coming to you from the rabbithole studio where you, as our
listeners, we'll explain somewit wisdom, some smart assery,
and this mother and thatdaughter questioning, are we
even related?
My name is Jane, my co-host ismy daughter Bobby.
And for the next severalminutes, hey, we're here to
(00:38):
entertain you, aren't we, Bobby?
SPEAKER_02 (00:40):
We're here to entertain ourselves
indefinitely.
I don't even know where thatcame from.
You just started laughing.
How do you know?
So I can't find my glasses.
SPEAKER_01 (00:51):
Yeah, no kidding.
How do you do?
So where that came from is mymom.
We had her at the mall when shewas alive, and and uh we didn't
have we didn't have her therewhen she was dead.
Weekend at Bernie's that one.
No, we had her at the mall, andit was the 99 cent store.
Yeah, and she didn't have herglasses on, and she ran into a
(01:13):
mirror and she turned around andsaid, Well, how do you do?
Just went about her merry way.
So, anyway, what's going on,Bobby?
SPEAKER_02 (01:23):
Well, apparently I'm getting bitched out because of
background noise.
SPEAKER_01 (01:27):
Well, for crying out loud, you got a plastic bag of
caramel corn down there thatyou're gnawing on like that's
your feed bag, Wilbur.
SPEAKER_02 (01:34):
So I was gonna turn around my hoodie and just dump
it in the hood part so I couldjust lean down and take it out.
SPEAKER_01 (01:42):
Oh my gosh.
Yeah, if you could just keepthat background noise.
Uh, it's either you droppingyour drink on the table.
SPEAKER_02 (01:52):
Yeah, me sneezing, god forbid.
SPEAKER_01 (01:55):
I mean, jeez.
Or Dr.
Domain coughing.
What's up with you guys and allyour noises?
Your bottle.
SPEAKER_02 (02:08):
Okay, little miss, I can't seem to silence my phone
and my computer at the sametime.
Who are you talking to?
I don't know.
Who would I be talking to?
Okay.
Whose phone goes meet me?
We've all heard it.
SPEAKER_01 (02:22):
Okay, okay, okay.
Well, it's silence now, I think.
Um, today, so I went to lunchwith some ladies, uh, actually,
a couple of my nieces and agirlfriend.
And um we were talking abouttaking cruises and vacations and
things like that.
And we were talking about someof the cruises, and I'll be
(02:43):
honest, I do not like seacruises anymore.
I just don't like being on thatit's not on silence.
SPEAKER_02 (02:55):
So, anyway, every time you bring up a cruise,
though, all I can think of isthat Netflix documentary cruise.
(03:40):
That's so gross.
Absolutely.
SPEAKER_01 (03:44):
Yeah, no kidding.
But anyway, we were talkingabout them, and you know, some
of 'em like the cruises, the seacruises.
I just didn't like being onsomebody else's somebody else's
schedule.
And if it was a smaller ship,I'm okay with it.
But these big, you know, youhave to stand in line to stand
in line to see if you can get ayou know, water taxi to go to
(04:06):
port.
And everybody on the cruises,I'm not kidding you.
They looked miserable.
Nobody was smiling.
SPEAKER_02 (04:12):
I mean, I no, I won't go on cruises.
I if I can't see land, I'm Iunderstand.
SPEAKER_01 (04:17):
Oh, yeah, you mentioned that as being an issue
for you.
SPEAKER_02 (04:20):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (04:21):
But the reason that I'm the poop cruise that forever
is gonna be in your mind, isn'tit?
SPEAKER_02 (04:27):
It will, because the way the guy described this one,
and this is gonna be grosspeople.
Okay, so he described this onething where they were like using
this toilet to go number two,and since it wouldn't flush
because there's no power onboard, this is it would be
gross.
They would put toilet paper overit, and he said it looked like a
really messed up lasagna.
He said, That's on adocumentary.
SPEAKER_01 (04:50):
He's pooping toilet paper lasagna.
And now she doesn't eat lasagnaeither.
Oh no, I'll use some lasagna.
I mean, I'm not above that, butoh my gosh, that's so gross.
You've got to go to thedocumentary.
I uh yeah, I'm gonna have to,but to be trapped, you know,
just to be trapped where youcan't.
(05:11):
Oh, my worst nightmare.
My worst nightmare.
Yeah, and you can't get awayfrom the smell.
You can't.
Yeah.
Yeah.
How gross, how gross is that.
Well, anyway, so we startedtalking about, you know, some
places that we've been and onour vacations, not just
cruisers, but on our vacations.
And Bobby and I have a couple oflocations that we said, if we
(05:33):
ever win the lottery, that'sgonna be our first tickets out,
is to go to these two locations.
SPEAKER_04 (05:39):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (05:39):
And um, but I started looking at unusual or
even bizarre or seriously weirdtravel destinations that some
people take.
SPEAKER_00 (05:51):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (05:51):
And one of them, this is kind of well, let's talk
about ours first, Bobby.
Do you remember where we weregonna go if we won the lottery?
SPEAKER_02 (05:59):
The hydrogen collider.
SPEAKER_01 (06:01):
The hydrogen collider.
Yeah, yep.
And where is that?
It's under Switzerland.
SPEAKER_02 (06:06):
Switzerland and uh Fran is it France?
No, it's not France.
SPEAKER_00 (06:10):
Yeah, no, I think it is.
No, I'm pretty sure.
Is it?
No, I don't know.
SPEAKER_01 (06:14):
Here, let me look at my world map here.
Uh oh, wait, is it Switzerlandor is it Sweden?
You're gonna have to look thatone up.
The other place that we want togo is Chernobyl.
Yeah.
Do we want to go there?
And it's my understanding thatthe levels are to the point now
where you can take tours andthings like that.
SPEAKER_02 (06:35):
Allegedly.
SPEAKER_01 (06:36):
Allegedly.
Allegedly.
But how cool would that be to goand check that out?
SPEAKER_02 (06:41):
Well, it doesn't say where CERN is.
I know it's at CERN.
Oh, Geneva, Switzerland.
Okay, it's across the border ofFrance and Switzerland.
SPEAKER_01 (06:50):
Oh, so I guess I was right.
SPEAKER_02 (06:52):
And it is the Hadron Collider.
Anyways.
I said hydrogen.
You did.
But you know, we're gonna rollwith it because your master's
degree trumps my um associate inscience.
Oh my gosh, is all I'm saying.
SPEAKER_01 (07:04):
Oh my gosh.
First of all, I didn't finishthat master's degree.
I was like six credit hours out,and I was making too much money
working, and it was like I I'mnot gonna go to go to school.
Um, anyway, but I do havebachelor's.
But um anyway, uh some of the uhbizarre places that people have
gone, or what I would considerkind of different places, one of
(07:28):
them is called uh Solar de Uniin Bolivia.
And it's a vast salt flat thatduring a certain season it
transforms into a giant mirrorand reflects the sky and it
creates a sea of the starseffect.
SPEAKER_02 (07:46):
So it's kind of like in the salt flats in what is it,
Utah?
SPEAKER_01 (07:51):
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (07:52):
That certain times of the year it looks like it's a
lake.
SPEAKER_01 (07:55):
Yeah, I guess, but I think this is probably a little
bit more severe.
SPEAKER_02 (08:00):
Well, yeah, because I know I guess different
equators, but yeah, okay.
SPEAKER_01 (08:06):
That'd be kind of cool.
I mean, that'd be kind of coolto go see, don't you?
SPEAKER_02 (08:09):
I mean, a salt flat, it just kind of makes me nervous
because it's out in the middleof nowhere in the desert.
SPEAKER_01 (08:13):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (08:14):
So yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (08:15):
Another place that came up as unusual natural
wonders.
And I'm wondering if ourlisteners are thinking about
places that they've been, right?
You know, because maybe bigplaces, yeah, that that are seem
to be bizarre or unusual or justI don't know, weird.
But this is called uh DurvazaGas Crater, and that's in
(08:37):
Turkmenistan.
And also known as the Gates ofHell, and it's a massive fiery
pit that's been burning over 50years after a Soviet drilling
accident.
Now, I watched a documentaryabout this, and so everybody, of
course, is vacated because it'stoxic, right?
(08:58):
And I can't imagine going thereto even see it because it's so
toxic there.
SPEAKER_02 (09:03):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (09:04):
And what would you do?
Just go and see it smoking?
SPEAKER_02 (09:07):
I don't know.
I mean, pretty it's kind of likethe town in America that the
coal mines caught on fire.
SPEAKER_01 (09:12):
And they're still burning.
SPEAKER_02 (09:13):
They're still burning and they had to
completely abandon the town andthe surrounding areas.
SPEAKER_01 (09:17):
Those towns have been abandoned.
SPEAKER_02 (09:18):
I mean, I would go there though, but because that's
you know, kind of it's well,it's it's silent hill type
thing.
So yeah, I would totally go tothe abandoned town in America.
SPEAKER_01 (09:29):
Yeah, yeah.
I I would, I mean, I wouldn't goto the gates of hell because
what what are you gonna do therebut watch a fiery pit?
I did like watching thedocumentary.
SPEAKER_02 (09:37):
I mean, it'd be kind of like going to a volcano.
Oh, look, there's there's afiery pit.
SPEAKER_01 (09:43):
Yeah, and you see people walking so close to
those, right?
SPEAKER_02 (09:48):
No, absolutely.
SPEAKER_01 (09:49):
It's like what if what if the ground shifted and
now you're just a little weeniein there?
SPEAKER_02 (09:56):
Take the warning labels off.
Let's do it.
Uh see who does it.
Yeah.
Uh, any weird places that youknow of, Bobby?
That's I do.
I actually have a list.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
So my top weird place is a placein Japan, or I should say off
the coast of Japan, because it'san island and it's called Cat
Island.
SPEAKER_01 (10:17):
Oh, that's where the cats outnumber humans.
SPEAKER_02 (10:20):
Oh, way outnumber humans.
Yeah.
And they're they're taken careof there.
Yeah.
And yeah, it's you can't killthem.
SPEAKER_01 (10:27):
You can't eat them.
You can't kill them.
SPEAKER_02 (10:28):
Dogs aren't allowed on the island.
SPEAKER_05 (10:30):
Can you eat them?
Absolutely not.
SPEAKER_01 (10:33):
They're like protected, but it's like a major
deal.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_05 (10:36):
Where do they eat cats?
Which country is that?
SPEAKER_02 (10:38):
I don't know that there is one.
There is one.
I know where they eat dogs.
Dogs, cats.
Dogs in China.
SPEAKER_01 (10:45):
Well, I think that was outline.
SPEAKER_02 (10:47):
Oh my god, we are completely off track.
Anyways, Cat Island in Japan.
The locals revere the cats.
They're considered good luck, ofcourse.
And it's just an entire islandwhere all day long you can just
go and pet cats.
And you can just pet differentcats all day long.
That'd be fun for a couplehours.
Couple hours.
(11:07):
I would go there for a year topet the cats.
SPEAKER_01 (11:10):
Oh, just drop me off.
Uh, I would go there for awhile, maybe a few days, and
then it's I would totally be inheaven.
Oh well, I I would be okay for awhile.
SPEAKER_05 (11:18):
That'd be good torture.
Torture dog for someone that wasallergic to cats or something,
you drop them off.
Oh, yeah.
You could do that.
SPEAKER_02 (11:27):
Death of a thousand cuts, but it's just cat
allergies.
Death with a thousand cats.
So I know a place that I knowyou would love to go.
Me?
And that is weird, and that Ihave on my list that I would
love to go.
Okay.
The catacombs of Paris.
Oh, yes, absolutely.
SPEAKER_01 (11:44):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (11:45):
Yeah.
And it's a travel destination.
I mean, there's they do travel.
Yeah, you're not supposed to godown there without the tours
because once you get in thereand it's closed off, it's beyond
black.
I mean, it's beyond pitch blackdown there.
Yeah.
There's literally zero lightemanating from anywhere.
SPEAKER_01 (12:04):
I don't know that much about it, but I have seen,
you know, not a documentaryabout it, but I've read a couple
of pages, maybe related relatedto it.
And I thought, wow, that wouldbe so much.
SPEAKER_02 (12:15):
So what happened was the cemeteries were overfilling.
And so they would dig up thebodies and bring them to the
catacombs to be displayed in arespectful manner.
That's right.
Because of the plagues andthings were filling up the
cemeteries too fast.
Yeah, so they would reuse thesame grave over and over.
SPEAKER_01 (12:35):
So do they not let them go that deep into the
catacombs because of thepotential of picking up that uh
disease again?
SPEAKER_02 (12:43):
Well, it of course it's not going to be down.
There's going to be other stuffdown there, you know, just from
being enclosed and damp and youknow, having the decay, you
know, things like that.
But the reason is is mostly justfor safety.
Um, there's also because ofvandalism um of the catacombs,
(13:04):
they don't let people just gooff without, you know, a group
leader.
SPEAKER_01 (13:07):
Because people steal somebody's skull.
SPEAKER_02 (13:09):
Because people are idiots.
Idiots.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (13:12):
Wow.
SPEAKER_02 (13:12):
But yeah.
So the catacombs would be agreat one.
You know, a creepy one would bethe um down in Mexico, they have
the island of dolls.
I know you've seen that.
Dr.
SPEAKER_01 (13:23):
Domain, have you seen that?
SPEAKER_02 (13:24):
No.
SPEAKER_01 (13:25):
The island of dolls?
No.
SPEAKER_02 (13:26):
I know you've seen it on a ghost as ghost
adventures going down there.
Yeah, creepy things, yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (13:32):
But I I've never seen it.
Right, right.
SPEAKER_02 (13:35):
But you've seen it on TV.
Yeah.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (13:37):
That would be funny.
SPEAKER_02 (13:38):
Just a creepy backstory, a creepy island, and
yeah, just you know, creepy lorethat goes around it.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (13:44):
I I kind of like getting creeped out.
I don't know why.
It's like uh, you know, wouldyou stay in this haunted house?
Yeah, yeah.
But absolutely come on.
Any haunted house bring it, youknow, and let's see what you
got.
SPEAKER_02 (13:54):
But you know, the tours they do down in New
Orleans of all the graveyards,the cemeteries.
Yeah, that's so cool.
And you have to stay togetherbecause it's so easy to get
lost.
And yeah, yeah, that's so cool.
Yeah, I would be that.
SPEAKER_01 (14:06):
That would be fun.
I I've never we wanted to do aghost tour when we were down in
Key West.
The last time Dr.
Domain is um Dr.
Domain is over here putting hishand up, like, don't tell this
story, don't tell it.
So we were weird.
(14:28):
I can't I can't even tell itanyway, and it might have
something to do with mushrooms.
I'm not sure.
But I'm the one getting shit.
Okay, it's fine.
It wasn't really mushrooms,though.
It was like mushroom coffee.
It's like you know mushroomcoffee.
SPEAKER_02 (14:48):
If you go down to the islands, it's not really um
marijuana.
It's it's not really islandherb.
SPEAKER_01 (14:55):
It's an island herb.
Everybody does it.
Oh my goodness.
Uh, another place is Panjin RedBeach, which is in China, and
that's a coastal area where theground's covered with a red
algae during the autumn.
And apparently, and I I haveseen pictures online, but I
haven't I don't know if they'rereal or if they've been, you
know, fabricated, right?
(15:16):
Um, but apparently that's quitestunning because it's a vibrant
color, and so that's kind ofcool.
SPEAKER_02 (15:22):
Well, they have those beaches that have the
algae in the water that makesthe water glow whenever you move
around in the water.
There's quite a few beaches thatare like that.
SPEAKER_01 (15:30):
That'd be cool to go see.
SPEAKER_02 (15:31):
Oh, it'd be totally cool.
SPEAKER_01 (15:33):
Speaking of mushrooms, uh Goblin Valley,
Goblin Valley State Park inUtah, they have a landscape of
numerous mushroom-shaped hoodsthat are known as goblins.
Utah.
Hoodoos.
Utah.
SPEAKER_02 (15:51):
That's weird that you would see that in Utah
beings that the Mormons tookover.
What?
But anyway, the Mormons tookover.
Oh my gosh.
Oh my goodness.
Um, uh no, they have, I believeit's in southern United States.
They have the place that withthe erosion and everything, it
(16:11):
has uncovered um tracks ofhumans and animals from like
tens of thousands of years ago.
Where's that?
I believe it's in the southernUnited States.
I want to say right aroundArizona or something like that.
Hmm.
Yeah.
And they have like the dinosaurstate park where you can see
(16:31):
still see the dinosaur tracksthat have been like put into
there.
SPEAKER_01 (16:35):
It's funny you say that, you know, because I used
to have to go to the mines, theunderground mines and stuff for
my job because I was in theenergy industry and mines were
part of it.
And we did that for vacation afew times.
Yeah, yeah.
Not willingly, um, or not onpurpose.
But anyway, I remember one ofthe mines out in Wyoming that we
(16:57):
went to, the guy showed us adinosaur print up on the
ceiling, and it was the coolestthing.
I mean, it was massive, but itwas the coolest thing, and they
go, Yeah, that's definitely beenconfirmed as a dinosaur print.
SPEAKER_02 (17:11):
Yeah, it's way cooler.
That's a vacation I would takeis to just go walk amongst them.
Because I mean, think how smallyou would feel.
That'd be awesome.
SPEAKER_01 (17:19):
Well, there's also the hand in the desert in Chile,
it's a large sculpture of a handemerging from the desert floor
in the Atacama desert.
SPEAKER_02 (17:30):
Does it like move?
SPEAKER_01 (17:31):
No, but can you imagine seeing a huge hand
coming out of the ground?
SPEAKER_02 (17:36):
I mean, I'd be like, that's a people thing.
That's not really weird to me, Iguess.
SPEAKER_01 (17:40):
Well, like somebody just built it.
No, I mean, like, why not?
I don't know.
SPEAKER_02 (17:44):
Maybe I if I was out in the desert and I didn't have
anything else to do besides pickmy butt, yeah, I would build a
lot of things.
Well, what else do you have onyour list?
It's so interesting.
I have the Winchester MysteryHouse.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
That that we would go see too.
That would be number three,though, on our list.
Yeah, yeah.
I have to see that before Idied.
Yeah, absolutely.
Because that's just crazy.
SPEAKER_01 (18:05):
It's just crazy how it we got, you know, they got
there with that whole thing.
SPEAKER_02 (18:08):
So, and I have an idea about a bizarre vacation,
like destination type thing.
SPEAKER_01 (18:14):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (18:15):
So, what if so we've talked before about like um how
big true crime has become andthings like that, you know, the
documentaries, everything likethat.
What if they did like a tour ofthe routes or places of serial
killers?
SPEAKER_01 (18:38):
That caused some silence right there.
So you're talking about likeacross the country or across the
city.
SPEAKER_02 (18:44):
No, I'm saying like you pick a serial killer.
Okay, like let's say the BTKkiller.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Or even the Green River killer.
Okay.
You go and, you know, you seewhere they lived, you see the
bars they went to, you see, youknow, where they pick these
people up, and then you drivethe path, you know, to where
they were found and stuff likethat.
(19:06):
And come on, it's like a ghosttour.
No, it's a ghost tour, but withall of the evidence.
Yeah.
I don't know.
Like a little packet that hasall the information in it that's
been released.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_05 (19:19):
Just sick enough, someone's gonna pick up that
idea.
SPEAKER_01 (19:21):
I think it's a cool idea because but okay, patent
pending.
SPEAKER_02 (19:24):
Look, you're not taking it from me.
Okay, this is a multi-milliondollar idea, is all I'm saying.
She's gonna make her money.
Like then you have those serialkillers, um, Israeli uh or is
what was his name?
Shit.
Anyways, he went all across thecountry.
Yeah, and even into Canada.
I mean, that could be like atwo-week trip right there, just
(19:45):
going around to places andflying into airports like he
did, and then following hispath.
SPEAKER_01 (19:50):
And if I come on if I was on the path, and I'm very
I have uh very sensitive, I havesensitivity to this stuff.
If I was on the path to JeffreyDahmer's from Jeffrey Dahmer's
house, apartment okay, apartmentto down by the freezer, um up by
(20:12):
the stove.
SPEAKER_05 (20:13):
Um hot on the trail.
SPEAKER_01 (20:15):
And I followed a path by which he would have
taken to go pick these peopleup, yeah, and then what vehicle
he used, and you know, just kindof follow that whole thing
around.
I'm afraid it would freak me outbecause Well, yeah, that's kind
of what you you got hauntedplaces to get freaked out.
SPEAKER_02 (20:37):
Why wouldn't you pay for a serial killer?
I think it's a cool idea.
I mean, like you get the wholecase file and you go step by
step and go, Bobby, I'm serious.
I think you need to get on this.
I think I might need to, but Iwould totally do that.
Like I would book a tour.
I would do it, I would do ittoo.
Okay, well, there we go.
There we have an idea.
Nobody can take it.
It's mine.
(20:59):
I liked it.
It's mine.
You guys can't take it from menow.
SPEAKER_01 (21:04):
Well, there's some weird uh experiences that you
can have too on your vacations,uh, willingly and unwillingly.
That's right.
Did you know in Japan, though,that you can go and learn to be
a ninja?
Yes.
unknown (21:17):
Of course.
SPEAKER_01 (21:18):
I did know that actually.
That is so cool.
Yeah, so they have that uniqueopportunity, you know, to learn
the historical and martial artsof being a ninja.
SPEAKER_02 (21:27):
It's like going to guitar camp for the week.
I mean, that'd be kind of cooltoo.
You know, you learn some stuffand then they make you feel like
really cool for knowing it, andthen they send you home.
SPEAKER_01 (21:36):
Yeah.
I didn't know they had the ninjathing.
I mean, I know they have likelearn how to knit or learn how
to, you know, crochet.
SPEAKER_02 (21:44):
Well, now they have those trips where you go and you
book an experience, not just atrip.
So you book an experience with atop chef in Paris.
Yeah, that'd be cool.
And they go when they teach you,you know, they cook right in
front of you and they teach youthings and stuff like that.
So they yeah, they have theseexperiences you can book.
I've just missed out on so manythings.
SPEAKER_05 (22:05):
I guess you could be a ninja knitter.
SPEAKER_01 (22:11):
Please don't say those two work together lastly.
Please.
So have you gone to any what youwould consider to be seriously
weird vacation locations onpurpose.
Everyone with mom.
On purpose.
Everyone's one with mom.
SPEAKER_00 (22:26):
Okay, but I meant on purpose.
SPEAKER_05 (22:28):
No, there's a couple.
Um, one of them we've been onwas Hell's Gate.
SPEAKER_01 (22:33):
Oh, yeah, we did go.
Geothermal.
SPEAKER_05 (22:36):
Yeah, that was cool.
SPEAKER_01 (22:37):
In New Zealand.
SPEAKER_05 (22:38):
In New Zealand.
Uh Rotorrura.
Rotorura.
SPEAKER_01 (22:40):
Oh, did you guys go see them?
Did you see that?
SPEAKER_05 (22:43):
Red Rotorura, I think, is a name.
SPEAKER_02 (22:45):
I probably did you guys go see the um the sets and
stuff for Lord of the Ringswhile you were over there?
SPEAKER_05 (22:51):
No.
SPEAKER_02 (22:52):
We did not.
SPEAKER_01 (22:53):
Um, you had already seen it, hadn't you?
SPEAKER_05 (22:56):
I I saw like a little bit of uh a set that was
in the town, but I think theycharge you a whole bunch.
SPEAKER_01 (23:05):
I thought he had already seen it, and I thought I
was a vacation.
I don't I I've never seen it.
I know nothing about Lord of theRings.
Absolutely nothing.
SPEAKER_02 (23:14):
You have to go skydiving, you have to go
snorkeling, and you have to gosee the Lord of the Rings set.
SPEAKER_05 (23:20):
So the other the other one that I think was
fascinating was um a placecalled Port Arthur in Tasmania.
And that was kind of a neatexperience.
SPEAKER_01 (23:32):
What'd you do there?
SPEAKER_05 (23:33):
It's a a penal colony that the I think the
Brits had set up in because Iguess they were full in Britain
with all the bad people, so theyshipped them to Tasmania.
SPEAKER_02 (23:44):
Oh, like they did with Australia.
SPEAKER_05 (23:46):
Yeah, that's yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's what I'm talking about.
Oh, full circle.
The little island south ofAustralia, Tasmania.
And they what they would do isthey ship them there.
SPEAKER_02 (24:02):
Well, yeah, but I mean they did it to the whole
island of Australia.
SPEAKER_05 (24:05):
And they were known to be like super strict.
The guards would go so far as toput like felt on the soles of
their boots so it wouldn't makeany noise.
Like totally silent, and it'djust drive people crazy.
And then had a a room where theywould do experiments on people,
and it was a big table, and thenit would kind of slope down into
(24:28):
a trough, so all the blood andeverything would go that way,
and then the rest of it would gointo the oven.
They'd light the oven and stuff.
Oh my god.
They did tours of that.
SPEAKER_01 (24:37):
That would be cool.
Did you do that tour?
SPEAKER_05 (24:39):
Uh huh.
SPEAKER_01 (24:40):
Oh man, that would be cool.
SPEAKER_05 (24:41):
It's pretty creepy.
SPEAKER_01 (24:43):
You know where else I would like to go, and you had
mentioned this on one of ourshows, was where we believe that
Hitler and his gang uh were sentafter the war.
SPEAKER_00 (24:53):
Oh, Brazil.
Yeah, yeah.
But there's like an unlikeisland area right there where
Dr.
SPEAKER_02 (24:58):
Domain sent after like his remains?
No, where they escaped to afterWorld War II.
Nobody really found his bodythere.
Catch up Dr.
Domain.
You might want to try to go andre-listen to it.
SPEAKER_05 (25:10):
That was another episode.
Oh.
Conspiracy theories.
SPEAKER_02 (25:13):
Yeah, you might want to go re-listen to it to know
what we're talking about.
But yeah, yeah, the lodge andeverything down there.
I would like to see that wouldbe so cool.
SPEAKER_01 (25:20):
That would be cool.
And just talk to some of thelocals.
Yeah.
The old people to you know,older than me.
I mean, I know some German, so Imean, that's a huge you know a
couple of cuss words, and that'sthat's a huge language down
there for a reason.
SPEAKER_02 (25:33):
Um, is also I'm saying something in German.
I have been kein guilt.
Oh, whatever.
SPEAKER_01 (25:38):
Okay, that was probably something pretty
derogatory.
Das passt gut.
The last place that I have wasuh where you could, and this was
an experience, explore with avoodoo priestess in in Benin.
And that's West African nation,and that is the birthplace of
(25:59):
voodoo.
And apparently it offers areally deep cultural immersion
into that particular type ofwe'll call it spiritual because
it is uh type of thing.
I wouldn't go to that, ofcourse, but what an experience.
SPEAKER_05 (26:15):
I would rather it's West Africa.
Is that what you say?
This is West Africa.
Oh, just go to Savannah, youexperience Sandra.
Just go to Norland.
Oh, sure that Savannah.
SPEAKER_02 (26:24):
But honestly, I would rather have hoodoo than
voodoo because hoodoo is a lotcooler of a spirituality.
Tell me the difference betweenhoodoo and voodoo is literally
like a mix of the French and thewhat is it, the um Caucasian?
(26:47):
Anyways, it's more of a mix ofit.
The hoodoo is more of atraditional African um
spirituality.
SPEAKER_00 (26:55):
Okay.
Well, I'll tell you what thereal what the actual definition
is.
SPEAKER_01 (27:01):
Yeah.
Uh voodoo is an organizedreligion with its own ritual
spiritual beings and uhhierarchical structure stemming
from West Africa traditions andevolving into the district forms
of, you know, Haitian voodoo.
In contrast, voodoo is a systemof folk magic, not a religion,
(27:23):
focused on practice.
Okay, Dr.
Domain is doing something herethat's making my mic go back and
forth and back and forth andback and forth.
He's coloring on the table.
You leave him alone.
Anyway, um, so what I was sayingis it's not a religion, it's
focused on practical outcomeslike healing and protection
through the use of spirituality,her like herbs, roots, and
(27:47):
natural objects.
So, anyway, a little bitdifferent, but whatever.
Yeah.
So anyways, anyways, I thinkthat's probably all we've got
today, unless you've got anotherlocation, Bobby, that we need to
add to our vacation list when wewin the lottery.
SPEAKER_02 (28:05):
No, but honestly, um, yeah, I gotta get on that
serial killer um tour.
SPEAKER_01 (28:10):
Man, I'm telling you, I think you got an idea
going on there that's gonna makeyou millions.
SPEAKER_02 (28:15):
God, I hope so.
SPEAKER_01 (28:17):
Don't forget your mama.
Don't forget your mama.
SPEAKER_02 (28:20):
I'll put you in a nice nursing home.
Yeah, with a lock on the outsidedoor.
Well, that is all the insanitythat we have for today.
We appreciate you joining ushere at the Rabbit Hole Studio.
Be sure to follow us because welook forward to spending time
with you each week.
Please like us.
And if you have positivefeedback or if there's a topic
or a question you would like usto talk about, drop us a short
(28:42):
email at boomer and genxer atgmail.com.
If you have hate mail, well, Imean, I guess drop it as a clue
along my serial killer tourbecause we might use it.
So until next week, I'm BobbyJoy.
And I'm Jane Bird.
And you're stuck with us later.
Welcome everyone to today's show.
Boomer and Gen X are welcome toa bar.
Coming to you from the rabbithole studio where you, as our
listeners, we'll explain somewit wisdom, some smart assery,
and this mother and thatdaughter questioning, are we
even related?
My name is Jane, my co-host ismy daughter Bobby.
And for the next severalminutes, hey, we're here to
(00:38):
entertain you, aren't we, Bobby?
SPEAKER_02 (00:40):
We're here to entertain ourselves
indefinitely.
I don't even know where thatcame from.
You just started laughing.
How do you know?
So I can't find my glasses.
SPEAKER_01 (00:51):
Yeah, no kidding.
How do you do?
So where that came from is mymom.
We had her at the mall when shewas alive, and and uh we didn't
have we didn't have her therewhen she was dead.
Weekend at Bernie's that one.
No, we had her at the mall, andit was the 99 cent store.
Yeah, and she didn't have herglasses on, and she ran into a
(01:13):
mirror and she turned around andsaid, Well, how do you do?
Just went about her merry way.
So, anyway, what's going on,Bobby?
SPEAKER_02 (01:23):
Well, apparently I'm getting bitched out because of
background noise.
SPEAKER_01 (01:27):
Well, for crying out loud, you got a plastic bag of
caramel corn down there thatyou're gnawing on like that's
your feed bag, Wilbur.
SPEAKER_02 (01:34):
So I was gonna turn around my hoodie and just dump
it in the hood part so I couldjust lean down and take it out.
SPEAKER_01 (01:42):
Oh my gosh.
Yeah, if you could just keepthat background noise.
Uh, it's either you droppingyour drink on the table.
SPEAKER_02 (01:52):
Yeah, me sneezing, god forbid.
SPEAKER_01 (01:55):
I mean, jeez.
Or Dr.
Domain coughing.
What's up with you guys and allyour noises?
Your bottle.
SPEAKER_02 (02:08):
Okay, little miss, I can't seem to silence my phone
and my computer at the sametime.
Who are you talking to?
I don't know.
Who would I be talking to?
Okay.
Whose phone goes meet me?
We've all heard it.
SPEAKER_01 (02:22):
Okay, okay, okay.
Well, it's silence now, I think.
Um, today, so I went to lunchwith some ladies, uh, actually,
a couple of my nieces and agirlfriend.
And um we were talking abouttaking cruises and vacations and
things like that.
And we were talking about someof the cruises, and I'll be
(02:43):
honest, I do not like seacruises anymore.
I just don't like being on thatit's not on silence.
SPEAKER_02 (02:55):
So, anyway, every time you bring up a cruise,
though, all I can think of isthat Netflix documentary cruise.
(03:40):
That's so gross.
Absolutely.
SPEAKER_01 (03:44):
Yeah, no kidding.
But anyway, we were talkingabout them, and you know, some
of 'em like the cruises, the seacruises.
I just didn't like being onsomebody else's somebody else's
schedule.
And if it was a smaller ship,I'm okay with it.
But these big, you know, youhave to stand in line to stand
in line to see if you can get ayou know, water taxi to go to
(04:06):
port.
And everybody on the cruises,I'm not kidding you.
They looked miserable.
Nobody was smiling.
SPEAKER_02 (04:12):
I mean, I no, I won't go on cruises.
I if I can't see land, I'm Iunderstand.
SPEAKER_01 (04:17):
Oh, yeah, you mentioned that as being an issue
for you.
SPEAKER_02 (04:20):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (04:21):
But the reason that I'm the poop cruise that forever
is gonna be in your mind, isn'tit?
SPEAKER_02 (04:27):
It will, because the way the guy described this one,
and this is gonna be grosspeople.
Okay, so he described this onething where they were like using
this toilet to go number two,and since it wouldn't flush
because there's no power onboard, this is it would be
gross.
They would put toilet paper overit, and he said it looked like a
really messed up lasagna.
He said, That's on adocumentary.
SPEAKER_01 (04:50):
He's pooping toilet paper lasagna.
And now she doesn't eat lasagnaeither.
Oh no, I'll use some lasagna.
I mean, I'm not above that, butoh my gosh, that's so gross.
You've got to go to thedocumentary.
I uh yeah, I'm gonna have to,but to be trapped, you know,
just to be trapped where youcan't.
(05:11):
Oh, my worst nightmare.
My worst nightmare.
Yeah, and you can't get awayfrom the smell.
You can't.
Yeah.
Yeah.
How gross, how gross is that.
Well, anyway, so we startedtalking about, you know, some
places that we've been and onour vacations, not just
cruisers, but on our vacations.
And Bobby and I have a couple oflocations that we said, if we
(05:33):
ever win the lottery, that'sgonna be our first tickets out,
is to go to these two locations.
SPEAKER_04 (05:39):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (05:39):
And um, but I started looking at unusual or
even bizarre or seriously weirdtravel destinations that some
people take.
SPEAKER_00 (05:51):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (05:51):
And one of them, this is kind of well, let's talk
about ours first, Bobby.
Do you remember where we weregonna go if we won the lottery?
SPEAKER_02 (05:59):
The hydrogen collider.
SPEAKER_01 (06:01):
The hydrogen collider.
Yeah, yep.
And where is that?
It's under Switzerland.
SPEAKER_02 (06:06):
Switzerland and uh Fran is it France?
No, it's not France.
SPEAKER_00 (06:10):
Yeah, no, I think it is.
No, I'm pretty sure.
Is it?
No, I don't know.
SPEAKER_01 (06:14):
Here, let me look at my world map here.
Uh oh, wait, is it Switzerlandor is it Sweden?
You're gonna have to look thatone up.
The other place that we want togo is Chernobyl.
Yeah.
Do we want to go there?
And it's my understanding thatthe levels are to the point now
where you can take tours andthings like that.
SPEAKER_02 (06:35):
Allegedly.
SPEAKER_01 (06:36):
Allegedly.
Allegedly.
But how cool would that be to goand check that out?
SPEAKER_02 (06:41):
Well, it doesn't say where CERN is.
I know it's at CERN.
Oh, Geneva, Switzerland.
Okay, it's across the border ofFrance and Switzerland.
SPEAKER_01 (06:50):
Oh, so I guess I was right.
SPEAKER_02 (06:52):
And it is the Hadron Collider.
Anyways.
I said hydrogen.
You did.
But you know, we're gonna rollwith it because your master's
degree trumps my um associate inscience.
Oh my gosh, is all I'm saying.
SPEAKER_01 (07:04):
Oh my gosh.
First of all, I didn't finishthat master's degree.
I was like six credit hours out,and I was making too much money
working, and it was like I I'mnot gonna go to go to school.
Um, anyway, but I do havebachelor's.
But um anyway, uh some of the uhbizarre places that people have
gone, or what I would considerkind of different places, one of
(07:28):
them is called uh Solar de Uniin Bolivia.
And it's a vast salt flat thatduring a certain season it
transforms into a giant mirrorand reflects the sky and it
creates a sea of the starseffect.
SPEAKER_02 (07:46):
So it's kind of like in the salt flats in what is it,
Utah?
SPEAKER_01 (07:51):
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (07:52):
That certain times of the year it looks like it's a
lake.
SPEAKER_01 (07:55):
Yeah, I guess, but I think this is probably a little
bit more severe.
SPEAKER_02 (08:00):
Well, yeah, because I know I guess different
equators, but yeah, okay.
SPEAKER_01 (08:06):
That'd be kind of cool.
I mean, that'd be kind of coolto go see, don't you?
SPEAKER_02 (08:09):
I mean, a salt flat, it just kind of makes me nervous
because it's out in the middleof nowhere in the desert.
SPEAKER_01 (08:13):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (08:14):
So yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (08:15):
Another place that came up as unusual natural
wonders.
And I'm wondering if ourlisteners are thinking about
places that they've been, right?
You know, because maybe bigplaces, yeah, that that are seem
to be bizarre or unusual or justI don't know, weird.
But this is called uh DurvazaGas Crater, and that's in
(08:37):
Turkmenistan.
And also known as the Gates ofHell, and it's a massive fiery
pit that's been burning over 50years after a Soviet drilling
accident.
Now, I watched a documentaryabout this, and so everybody, of
course, is vacated because it'stoxic, right?
(08:58):
And I can't imagine going thereto even see it because it's so
toxic there.
SPEAKER_02 (09:03):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (09:04):
And what would you do?
Just go and see it smoking?
SPEAKER_02 (09:07):
I don't know.
I mean, pretty it's kind of likethe town in America that the
coal mines caught on fire.
SPEAKER_01 (09:12):
And they're still burning.
SPEAKER_02 (09:13):
They're still burning and they had to
completely abandon the town andthe surrounding areas.
SPEAKER_01 (09:17):
Those towns have been abandoned.
SPEAKER_02 (09:18):
I mean, I would go there though, but because that's
you know, kind of it's well,it's it's silent hill type
thing.
So yeah, I would totally go tothe abandoned town in America.
SPEAKER_01 (09:29):
Yeah, yeah.
I I would, I mean, I wouldn't goto the gates of hell because
what what are you gonna do therebut watch a fiery pit?
I did like watching thedocumentary.
SPEAKER_02 (09:37):
I mean, it'd be kind of like going to a volcano.
Oh, look, there's there's afiery pit.
SPEAKER_01 (09:43):
Yeah, and you see people walking so close to
those, right?
SPEAKER_02 (09:48):
No, absolutely.
SPEAKER_01 (09:49):
It's like what if what if the ground shifted and
now you're just a little weeniein there?
SPEAKER_02 (09:56):
Take the warning labels off.
Let's do it.
Uh see who does it.
Yeah.
Uh, any weird places that youknow of, Bobby?
That's I do.
I actually have a list.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
So my top weird place is a placein Japan, or I should say off
the coast of Japan, because it'san island and it's called Cat
Island.
SPEAKER_01 (10:17):
Oh, that's where the cats outnumber humans.
SPEAKER_02 (10:20):
Oh, way outnumber humans.
Yeah.
And they're they're taken careof there.
Yeah.
And yeah, it's you can't killthem.
SPEAKER_01 (10:27):
You can't eat them.
You can't kill them.
SPEAKER_02 (10:28):
Dogs aren't allowed on the island.
SPEAKER_05 (10:30):
Can you eat them?
Absolutely not.
SPEAKER_01 (10:33):
They're like protected, but it's like a major
deal.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_05 (10:36):
Where do they eat cats?
Which country is that?
SPEAKER_02 (10:38):
I don't know that there is one.
There is one.
I know where they eat dogs.
Dogs, cats.
Dogs in China.
SPEAKER_01 (10:45):
Well, I think that was outline.
SPEAKER_02 (10:47):
Oh my god, we are completely off track.
Anyways, Cat Island in Japan.
The locals revere the cats.
They're considered good luck, ofcourse.
And it's just an entire islandwhere all day long you can just
go and pet cats.
And you can just pet differentcats all day long.
That'd be fun for a couplehours.
Couple hours.
(11:07):
I would go there for a year topet the cats.
SPEAKER_01 (11:10):
Oh, just drop me off.
Uh, I would go there for awhile, maybe a few days, and
then it's I would totally be inheaven.
Oh well, I I would be okay for awhile.
SPEAKER_05 (11:18):
That'd be good torture.
Torture dog for someone that wasallergic to cats or something,
you drop them off.
Oh, yeah.
You could do that.
SPEAKER_02 (11:27):
Death of a thousand cuts, but it's just cat
allergies.
Death with a thousand cats.
So I know a place that I knowyou would love to go.
Me?
And that is weird, and that Ihave on my list that I would
love to go.
Okay.
The catacombs of Paris.
Oh, yes, absolutely.
SPEAKER_01 (11:44):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (11:45):
Yeah.
And it's a travel destination.
I mean, there's they do travel.
Yeah, you're not supposed to godown there without the tours
because once you get in thereand it's closed off, it's beyond
black.
I mean, it's beyond pitch blackdown there.
Yeah.
There's literally zero lightemanating from anywhere.
SPEAKER_01 (12:04):
I don't know that much about it, but I have seen,
you know, not a documentaryabout it, but I've read a couple
of pages, maybe related relatedto it.
And I thought, wow, that wouldbe so much.
SPEAKER_02 (12:15):
So what happened was the cemeteries were overfilling.
And so they would dig up thebodies and bring them to the
catacombs to be displayed in arespectful manner.
That's right.
Because of the plagues andthings were filling up the
cemeteries too fast.
Yeah, so they would reuse thesame grave over and over.
SPEAKER_01 (12:35):
So do they not let them go that deep into the
catacombs because of thepotential of picking up that uh
disease again?
SPEAKER_02 (12:43):
Well, it of course it's not going to be down.
There's going to be other stuffdown there, you know, just from
being enclosed and damp and youknow, having the decay, you
know, things like that.
But the reason is is mostly justfor safety.
Um, there's also because ofvandalism um of the catacombs,
(13:04):
they don't let people just gooff without, you know, a group
leader.
SPEAKER_01 (13:07):
Because people steal somebody's skull.
SPEAKER_02 (13:09):
Because people are idiots.
Idiots.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (13:12):
Wow.
SPEAKER_02 (13:12):
But yeah.
So the catacombs would be agreat one.
You know, a creepy one would bethe um down in Mexico, they have
the island of dolls.
I know you've seen that.
Dr.
SPEAKER_01 (13:23):
Domain, have you seen that?
SPEAKER_02 (13:24):
No.
SPEAKER_01 (13:25):
The island of dolls?
No.
SPEAKER_02 (13:26):
I know you've seen it on a ghost as ghost
adventures going down there.
Yeah, creepy things, yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (13:32):
But I I've never seen it.
Right, right.
SPEAKER_02 (13:35):
But you've seen it on TV.
Yeah.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (13:37):
That would be funny.
SPEAKER_02 (13:38):
Just a creepy backstory, a creepy island, and
yeah, just you know, creepy lorethat goes around it.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (13:44):
I I kind of like getting creeped out.
I don't know why.
It's like uh, you know, wouldyou stay in this haunted house?
Yeah, yeah.
But absolutely come on.
Any haunted house bring it, youknow, and let's see what you
got.
SPEAKER_02 (13:54):
But you know, the tours they do down in New
Orleans of all the graveyards,the cemeteries.
Yeah, that's so cool.
And you have to stay togetherbecause it's so easy to get
lost.
And yeah, yeah, that's so cool.
Yeah, I would be that.
SPEAKER_01 (14:06):
That would be fun.
I I've never we wanted to do aghost tour when we were down in
Key West.
The last time Dr.
Domain is um Dr.
Domain is over here putting hishand up, like, don't tell this
story, don't tell it.
So we were weird.
(14:28):
I can't I can't even tell itanyway, and it might have
something to do with mushrooms.
I'm not sure.
But I'm the one getting shit.
Okay, it's fine.
It wasn't really mushrooms,though.
It was like mushroom coffee.
It's like you know mushroomcoffee.
SPEAKER_02 (14:48):
If you go down to the islands, it's not really um
marijuana.
It's it's not really islandherb.
SPEAKER_01 (14:55):
It's an island herb.
Everybody does it.
Oh my goodness.
Uh, another place is Panjin RedBeach, which is in China, and
that's a coastal area where theground's covered with a red
algae during the autumn.
And apparently, and I I haveseen pictures online, but I
haven't I don't know if they'rereal or if they've been, you
know, fabricated, right?
(15:16):
Um, but apparently that's quitestunning because it's a vibrant
color, and so that's kind ofcool.
SPEAKER_02 (15:22):
Well, they have those beaches that have the
algae in the water that makesthe water glow whenever you move
around in the water.
There's quite a few beaches thatare like that.
SPEAKER_01 (15:30):
That'd be cool to go see.
SPEAKER_02 (15:31):
Oh, it'd be totally cool.
SPEAKER_01 (15:33):
Speaking of mushrooms, uh Goblin Valley,
Goblin Valley State Park inUtah, they have a landscape of
numerous mushroom-shaped hoodsthat are known as goblins.
Utah.
Hoodoos.
Utah.
SPEAKER_02 (15:51):
That's weird that you would see that in Utah
beings that the Mormons tookover.
What?
But anyway, the Mormons tookover.
Oh my gosh.
Oh my goodness.
Um, uh no, they have, I believeit's in southern United States.
They have the place that withthe erosion and everything, it
(16:11):
has uncovered um tracks ofhumans and animals from like
tens of thousands of years ago.
Where's that?
I believe it's in the southernUnited States.
I want to say right aroundArizona or something like that.
Hmm.
Yeah.
And they have like the dinosaurstate park where you can see
(16:31):
still see the dinosaur tracksthat have been like put into
there.
SPEAKER_01 (16:35):
It's funny you say that, you know, because I used
to have to go to the mines, theunderground mines and stuff for
my job because I was in theenergy industry and mines were
part of it.
And we did that for vacation afew times.
Yeah, yeah.
Not willingly, um, or not onpurpose.
But anyway, I remember one ofthe mines out in Wyoming that we
(16:57):
went to, the guy showed us adinosaur print up on the
ceiling, and it was the coolestthing.
I mean, it was massive, but itwas the coolest thing, and they
go, Yeah, that's definitely beenconfirmed as a dinosaur print.
SPEAKER_02 (17:11):
Yeah, it's way cooler.
That's a vacation I would takeis to just go walk amongst them.
Because I mean, think how smallyou would feel.
That'd be awesome.
SPEAKER_01 (17:19):
Well, there's also the hand in the desert in Chile,
it's a large sculpture of a handemerging from the desert floor
in the Atacama desert.
SPEAKER_02 (17:30):
Does it like move?
SPEAKER_01 (17:31):
No, but can you imagine seeing a huge hand
coming out of the ground?
SPEAKER_02 (17:36):
I mean, I'd be like, that's a people thing.
That's not really weird to me, Iguess.
SPEAKER_01 (17:40):
Well, like somebody just built it.
No, I mean, like, why not?
I don't know.
SPEAKER_02 (17:44):
Maybe I if I was out in the desert and I didn't have
anything else to do besides pickmy butt, yeah, I would build a
lot of things.
Well, what else do you have onyour list?
It's so interesting.
I have the Winchester MysteryHouse.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
That that we would go see too.
That would be number three,though, on our list.
Yeah, yeah.
I have to see that before Idied.
Yeah, absolutely.
Because that's just crazy.
SPEAKER_01 (18:05):
It's just crazy how it we got, you know, they got
there with that whole thing.
SPEAKER_02 (18:08):
So, and I have an idea about a bizarre vacation,
like destination type thing.
SPEAKER_01 (18:14):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (18:15):
So, what if so we've talked before about like um how
big true crime has become andthings like that, you know, the
documentaries, everything likethat.
What if they did like a tour ofthe routes or places of serial
killers?
SPEAKER_01 (18:38):
That caused some silence right there.
So you're talking about likeacross the country or across the
city.
SPEAKER_02 (18:44):
No, I'm saying like you pick a serial killer.
Okay, like let's say the BTKkiller.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Or even the Green River killer.
Okay.
You go and, you know, you seewhere they lived, you see the
bars they went to, you see, youknow, where they pick these
people up, and then you drivethe path, you know, to where
they were found and stuff likethat.
(19:06):
And come on, it's like a ghosttour.
No, it's a ghost tour, but withall of the evidence.
Yeah.
I don't know.
Like a little packet that hasall the information in it that's
been released.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_05 (19:19):
Just sick enough, someone's gonna pick up that
idea.
SPEAKER_01 (19:21):
I think it's a cool idea because but okay, patent
pending.
SPEAKER_02 (19:24):
Look, you're not taking it from me.
Okay, this is a multi-milliondollar idea, is all I'm saying.
She's gonna make her money.
Like then you have those serialkillers, um, Israeli uh or is
what was his name?
Shit.
Anyways, he went all across thecountry.
Yeah, and even into Canada.
I mean, that could be like atwo-week trip right there, just
(19:45):
going around to places andflying into airports like he
did, and then following hispath.
SPEAKER_01 (19:50):
And if I come on if I was on the path, and I'm very
I have uh very sensitive, I havesensitivity to this stuff.
If I was on the path to JeffreyDahmer's from Jeffrey Dahmer's
house, apartment okay, apartmentto down by the freezer, um up by
(20:12):
the stove.
SPEAKER_05 (20:13):
Um hot on the trail.
SPEAKER_01 (20:15):
And I followed a path by which he would have
taken to go pick these peopleup, yeah, and then what vehicle
he used, and you know, just kindof follow that whole thing
around.
I'm afraid it would freak me outbecause Well, yeah, that's kind
of what you you got hauntedplaces to get freaked out.
SPEAKER_02 (20:37):
Why wouldn't you pay for a serial killer?
I think it's a cool idea.
I mean, like you get the wholecase file and you go step by
step and go, Bobby, I'm serious.
I think you need to get on this.
I think I might need to, but Iwould totally do that.
Like I would book a tour.
I would do it, I would do ittoo.
Okay, well, there we go.
There we have an idea.
Nobody can take it.
It's mine.
(20:59):
I liked it.
It's mine.
You guys can't take it from menow.
SPEAKER_01 (21:04):
Well, there's some weird uh experiences that you
can have too on your vacations,uh, willingly and unwillingly.
That's right.
Did you know in Japan, though,that you can go and learn to be
a ninja?
Yes.
unknown (21:17):
Of course.
SPEAKER_01 (21:18):
I did know that actually.
That is so cool.
Yeah, so they have that uniqueopportunity, you know, to learn
the historical and martial artsof being a ninja.
SPEAKER_02 (21:27):
It's like going to guitar camp for the week.
I mean, that'd be kind of cooltoo.
You know, you learn some stuffand then they make you feel like
really cool for knowing it, andthen they send you home.
SPEAKER_01 (21:36):
Yeah.
I didn't know they had the ninjathing.
I mean, I know they have likelearn how to knit or learn how
to, you know, crochet.
SPEAKER_02 (21:44):
Well, now they have those trips where you go and you
book an experience, not just atrip.
So you book an experience with atop chef in Paris.
Yeah, that'd be cool.
And they go when they teach you,you know, they cook right in
front of you and they teach youthings and stuff like that.
So they yeah, they have theseexperiences you can book.
I've just missed out on so manythings.
SPEAKER_05 (22:05):
I guess you could be a ninja knitter.
SPEAKER_01 (22:11):
Please don't say those two work together lastly.
Please.
So have you gone to any what youwould consider to be seriously
weird vacation locations onpurpose.
Everyone with mom.
On purpose.
Everyone's one with mom.
SPEAKER_00 (22:26):
Okay, but I meant on purpose.
SPEAKER_05 (22:28):
No, there's a couple.
Um, one of them we've been onwas Hell's Gate.
SPEAKER_01 (22:33):
Oh, yeah, we did go.
Geothermal.
SPEAKER_05 (22:36):
Yeah, that was cool.
SPEAKER_01 (22:37):
In New Zealand.
SPEAKER_05 (22:38):
In New Zealand.
Uh Rotorrura.
Rotorura.
SPEAKER_01 (22:40):
Oh, did you guys go see them?
Did you see that?
SPEAKER_05 (22:43):
Red Rotorura, I think, is a name.
SPEAKER_02 (22:45):
I probably did you guys go see the um the sets and
stuff for Lord of the Ringswhile you were over there?
SPEAKER_05 (22:51):
No.
SPEAKER_02 (22:52):
We did not.
SPEAKER_01 (22:53):
Um, you had already seen it, hadn't you?
SPEAKER_05 (22:56):
I I saw like a little bit of uh a set that was
in the town, but I think theycharge you a whole bunch.
SPEAKER_01 (23:05):
I thought he had already seen it, and I thought I
was a vacation.
I don't I I've never seen it.
I know nothing about Lord of theRings.
Absolutely nothing.
SPEAKER_02 (23:14):
You have to go skydiving, you have to go
snorkeling, and you have to gosee the Lord of the Rings set.
SPEAKER_05 (23:20):
So the other the other one that I think was
fascinating was um a placecalled Port Arthur in Tasmania.
And that was kind of a neatexperience.
SPEAKER_01 (23:32):
What'd you do there?
SPEAKER_05 (23:33):
It's a a penal colony that the I think the
Brits had set up in because Iguess they were full in Britain
with all the bad people, so theyshipped them to Tasmania.
SPEAKER_02 (23:44):
Oh, like they did with Australia.
SPEAKER_05 (23:46):
Yeah, that's yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's what I'm talking about.
Oh, full circle.
The little island south ofAustralia, Tasmania.
And they what they would do isthey ship them there.
SPEAKER_02 (24:02):
Well, yeah, but I mean they did it to the whole
island of Australia.
SPEAKER_05 (24:05):
And they were known to be like super strict.
The guards would go so far as toput like felt on the soles of
their boots so it wouldn't makeany noise.
Like totally silent, and it'djust drive people crazy.
And then had a a room where theywould do experiments on people,
and it was a big table, and thenit would kind of slope down into
(24:28):
a trough, so all the blood andeverything would go that way,
and then the rest of it would gointo the oven.
They'd light the oven and stuff.
Oh my god.
They did tours of that.
SPEAKER_01 (24:37):
That would be cool.
Did you do that tour?
SPEAKER_05 (24:39):
Uh huh.
SPEAKER_01 (24:40):
Oh man, that would be cool.
SPEAKER_05 (24:41):
It's pretty creepy.
SPEAKER_01 (24:43):
You know where else I would like to go, and you had
mentioned this on one of ourshows, was where we believe that
Hitler and his gang uh were sentafter the war.
SPEAKER_00 (24:53):
Oh, Brazil.
Yeah, yeah.
But there's like an unlikeisland area right there where
Dr.
SPEAKER_02 (24:58):
Domain sent after like his remains?
No, where they escaped to afterWorld War II.
Nobody really found his bodythere.
Catch up Dr.
Domain.
You might want to try to go andre-listen to it.
SPEAKER_05 (25:10):
That was another episode.
Oh.
Conspiracy theories.
SPEAKER_02 (25:13):
Yeah, you might want to go re-listen to it to know
what we're talking about.
But yeah, yeah, the lodge andeverything down there.
I would like to see that wouldbe so cool.
SPEAKER_01 (25:20):
That would be cool.
And just talk to some of thelocals.
Yeah.
The old people to you know,older than me.
I mean, I know some German, so Imean, that's a huge you know a
couple of cuss words, and that'sthat's a huge language down
there for a reason.
SPEAKER_02 (25:33):
Um, is also I'm saying something in German.
I have been kein guilt.
Oh, whatever.
SPEAKER_01 (25:38):
Okay, that was probably something pretty
derogatory.
Das passt gut.
The last place that I have wasuh where you could, and this was
an experience, explore with avoodoo priestess in in Benin.
And that's West African nation,and that is the birthplace of
(25:59):
voodoo.
And apparently it offers areally deep cultural immersion
into that particular type ofwe'll call it spiritual because
it is uh type of thing.
I wouldn't go to that, ofcourse, but what an experience.
SPEAKER_05 (26:15):
I would rather it's West Africa.
Is that what you say?
This is West Africa.
Oh, just go to Savannah, youexperience Sandra.
Just go to Norland.
Oh, sure that Savannah.
SPEAKER_02 (26:24):
But honestly, I would rather have hoodoo than
voodoo because hoodoo is a lotcooler of a spirituality.
Tell me the difference betweenhoodoo and voodoo is literally
like a mix of the French and thewhat is it, the um Caucasian?
(26:47):
Anyways, it's more of a mix ofit.
The hoodoo is more of atraditional African um
spirituality.
SPEAKER_00 (26:55):
Okay.
Well, I'll tell you what thereal what the actual definition
is.
SPEAKER_01 (27:01):
Yeah.
Uh voodoo is an organizedreligion with its own ritual
spiritual beings and uhhierarchical structure stemming
from West Africa traditions andevolving into the district forms
of, you know, Haitian voodoo.
In contrast, voodoo is a systemof folk magic, not a religion,
(27:23):
focused on practice.
Okay, Dr.
Domain is doing something herethat's making my mic go back and
forth and back and forth andback and forth.
He's coloring on the table.
You leave him alone.
Anyway, um, so what I was sayingis it's not a religion, it's
focused on practical outcomeslike healing and protection
through the use of spirituality,her like herbs, roots, and
(27:47):
natural objects.
So, anyway, a little bitdifferent, but whatever.
Yeah.
So anyways, anyways, I thinkthat's probably all we've got
today, unless you've got anotherlocation, Bobby, that we need to
add to our vacation list when wewin the lottery.
SPEAKER_02 (28:05):
No, but honestly, um, yeah, I gotta get on that
serial killer um tour.
SPEAKER_01 (28:10):
Man, I'm telling you, I think you got an idea
going on there that's gonna makeyou millions.
SPEAKER_02 (28:15):
God, I hope so.
SPEAKER_01 (28:17):
Don't forget your mama.
Don't forget your mama.
SPEAKER_02 (28:20):
I'll put you in a nice nursing home.
Yeah, with a lock on the outsidedoor.
Well, that is all the insanitythat we have for today.
We appreciate you joining ushere at the Rabbit Hole Studio.
Be sure to follow us because welook forward to spending time
with you each week.
Please like us.
And if you have positivefeedback or if there's a topic
or a question you would like usto talk about, drop us a short
(28:42):
email at boomer and genxer atgmail.com.
If you have hate mail, well, Imean, I guess drop it as a clue
along my serial killer tourbecause we might use it.
So until next week, I'm BobbyJoy.
And I'm Jane Bird.
And you're stuck with us later.
Popular Podcasts
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!
The Joe Rogan Experience
The official podcast of comedian Joe Rogan.
Stuff You Should Know
If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.