June 10, 2025 • 34 mins
Remember when camping meant throwing a sleeping bag in a tent and roughing it for a weekend? Those days are long gone. In this candid conversation, mother-daughter duo Jane and Bobbi Joy pull back the curtain on modern camping culture—from $300,000 or several millions, luxury motorhomes to the secret world of campground social dynamics.
The pair share laugh-out-loud stories from their extensive camping experiences, including the nightmare of paying $150 per night to camp beside train tracks so loud they couldn't hear themselves speak. They explore how camping has transformed from being seen as "the poor people's vacation" to an expensive lifestyle choice, with glamping and high-end RVs changing the landscape entirely.
Beyond the practical aspects, Jane and Bobbi offer a fascinating glimpse into campground subcultures most people never knew existed.
The episode doesn't shy away from the messier realities of camping life either—including a particularly memorable story from Dr. Domain about a "chocolate fountain" disaster involving an RV's black water tank that will have you both laughing and cringing. Through personal anecdotes and practical insights, they paint a picture of camping that's far more complex than the Instagram-perfect images suggest.
Whether you're a seasoned camper, considering buying an RV, or just curious about this evolving American tradition, this episode offers an unfiltered look at what camping truly entails today—both the freedom and beauty it provides, and the unexpected challenges that come with it.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
welcome everyone to today's show.
Boomer and a gen x are walkingto a bar, coming to you from the
rabbit hole studio, where you,as our listeners, will
experience some wit and wisdom,some smart assery and a mother
and daughter questioning.
Are we even related?
My name is jane burr, myco-host is my daughter, bobby
Joy, and for the next severalminutes we're going to talk
(00:28):
about.
Guess what we're going to talkabout today, bobby?
Did I give you a topic today.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Well, you told me what it was, but you know the
weather's getting nice andsummer's around the corner, so
uh, yeah, what's the camping?
Speaker 1 (00:41):
camping, camping, tenting, going all out and you
know getting away, and, uh, thepoor people's vacation that's.
You know what?
Speaker 2 (00:51):
it isn't poor people anymore not anymore, oh my
goodness glamping has taken thenation by storm, camping alone,
and the cost for fuel and thecost for the units.
Listen, she's already gettingonto it, onto the glamping thing
, because she's talking aboutfuel and everything else.
I'm talking about a sleepingbag and a one-person tent.
Oh yeah, that's not happening.
(01:11):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Yeah, that's not happening.
So the reason I wanted to talkabout camping is because,
whether you're staying at aresort, or whether you're just
staying at a campground, or even, you know know, a state or a
national park, there are someweird things that go on or even
your neighbor's backyard.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
They just don't know it yet even your neighbor's
backyard.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
So, uh, we live out in the country, I do anyway and
uh, the house in in georgia isup in the mountains and we have
an acreage up there too, so wedon't have neighbors like right
on top of us or anything likethat, and I would.
I would not like that at all.
I wouldn't.
I wouldn't move back to thecity unless I was forced to,
(01:54):
like when my girls think they'regoing to put me in a home or
something like that.
You know, that's what I'll callit, no we call it the shed the
shed, yeah, the she shed the sheshould have been nicer than a
shit, a shed.
She'd have been doing better ifshe would have, uh, just been
nicer.
(02:14):
So uh, anyway, I know there's alot of campers out there, a lot
of people who go rving, and youknow some people just go
intense, like you you weretalking about Right and they
rough it, they take mountainbikes or you know they just go
up there with their kids andthey bring the bare necessities
and they have a great time.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
That's not me, or they go dirt bikes, utvs, things
like that, yeah, and go in thedesert for a few days, yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
That's not me, I'll just tell you that right now.
And then there's people who buythese little teardrop campers,
some of the older campers, youknow, like the little
streamlines, the littlestreamline campers.
Yeah, you know, those littleteardrop campers are like almost
$30,000.
Yeah, actually my dad'srefurbishing an old streamliner
(03:02):
teardrop type camper that maybefits two people, if you're lucky
wow, yeah, yeah, they're veryexpensive now, so they've
definitely gotten a corner onthe market as it relates to
campers and rvs.
And then there's people whohave, you know, the great big,
long fifth wheel.
There's bumper poles, um,there's people that have.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
She has one no I don't have a fifth wheel.
Well, no, you have one of thegreat big long ones with the toe
behind, and okay calm down yeahso there's people who have the
big, uh fifth wheels and I meanthey're very luxurious.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Oh yeah, you've got tour bus quality yeah yeah, I
mean super nice, and you knowthey're running anywhere from
100 200 300 000 just for for afifth wheel and, uh, we saw some
really nice ones, didn't we?
Speaker 2 (03:54):
dr domain, uh, on the road I mean super nice, not the
type that you'd see cousineddie outside going shitters
full no, not any of thatbusiness.
No, old winnebago's or anythinglike that makes me sad and you
know a lot of these.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
When you talk about glamping, I mean you've got
everything.
This is like another home yeah,it's a totally.
It's like a five-star hotel,absolutely.
And even the fifth wheels havemultiple bathrooms in them, yep,
and outdoor showers, outdoorkitchens.
It's crazy what you can get ina fifth wheel.
(04:32):
And then there's the motorhomes, and yes, we do have a 40-foot
motorhome and we do um, it is atoy hauler also, and so we take
motorcycles in the back, andthen we do, you know, we tow a
car and we do have e-bikes thatwe take I like how you're trying
to like downplay all of thisand yeah, so it's not like we're
(04:53):
roughing it by any stretch ofthe imagination.
I will say that it is notuncomfortable to live in, for
sure.
But um, once you get to, I'vealways said what weird little
birds we are.
Because on this earth we find alittle plot of land and we say
stay off of it, this is ours, donot trespass.
I'm going to put a fence uparound it and I'm going to build
(05:15):
my house, or I'm going to havea house there, and this is going
to be just mine.
And now it's gotten to thepoint where we take our house
with us.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
So not only do we take our house with us, so not
only do we have our house, wehave our house that we take with
us.
I mean, that's that's honestlyalways been.
My dream, though, is not tohave the house on the permanent
plot of land.
It's to be able to get in myhouse and drive it far, far away
from the people I don't want totalk to right now you know,
back when I was growing up, youwould hear about people who
would be living in a van down bythe river.
(05:47):
Yep, chris farley, yeah or orI'd be living in a van down by
the river.
Bless his heart.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Oh man, that almost made me choke, or they would be
living on the beach.
You know, they would have theirvan up there and they'd be
living on the beach, or they'dhave a tent that you know, yeah,
or even their motorcycle with atent attached to it.
Yep, and we thought they wereweirdos, homeless weirdos.
Homeless weirdos, of course, insome respect, you know, did Ted
(06:21):
Bundy live in a van?
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Right, I don't know.
You know, did ted bundy live ina right?
I don't know.
I don't know jeffrey dommer, Imean, he had his own nice
apartment, but we're not talkingabout that.
How?
Speaker 1 (06:29):
did that come up?
You start.
So we used to think that thosepeople were crazy, right, and
now it's like wow it's the dream, it's the dream of a lot of
people to just get out fromunder what they've got get out
of debt.
Don't have to work so manyhours.
You know who are you out toimpress right, I mean it used to
(06:51):
be.
You got to keep up with thejoneses.
I don't even know who thejoneses are.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
A lot of these campers are are built to impress
, though, as well I mean,they've come into the realm of
it.
And you know, when I was downin florida, I went down to
florida for a few months andstayed down there with my now
ex-husband.
We actually lived on StPetersburg Beach.
I mean, we lived in the sand onthe beach because the hotels
(07:16):
were crappy.
We didn't, you know, have aplace to rent at the time and we
just drove down there and westayed on the beach and it was
glorious.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And there's a lot of peoplethat think, man, what a life
that would be, you know to toactually do that.
But you know, if you're goingto live out of a van, out of a
tent, that really is kind ofroughing it because it isn't you
.
You don't have all theamenities that you have in your
home or that you would have in amotor home or in a camper well,
(07:46):
but let's talk about that,because I think that it's not.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
It's not what it once was so like when we had, like
the mark 8 van, you know we hadthe little tv in it, the little
table and the back, you know,folded down into a bed.
That was luxurious back in the80s I mean that was like high
high dollar.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
We were rolling, yeah , yeah, they envied us they did.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
And now, you know, even with my suv, I can plug in
you know, a small tv.
Have a wireless router.
Okay, I have internet, I havetv.
I have a gym membership to oneof the largest gyms in the
nation that has all theselocations where I can shower,
work out.
You know things like that.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
I'm trying to get past thatworkout.
You're gonna go.
This is hypothetical.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Oh, jesus lord, okay because you kind of I'm saying
you know you, for you $25 amonth, you can get a gym
membership to someplace that hasthousands of locations across
the country.
You got a place to shower, yougot a place to, you know, have
electricity, blow dry your hair,whatever, brush your teeth,
things like that.
And then you know what otheramenities do you really need?
(08:59):
You've got, you know, your TV,your radio, you've got the
ability to travel, you can stopand wash your clothes.
You have everything you needright there.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Okay, so let's talk about the costs associated
outside of that, because ifyou're boondocking which is not
hooking up to anything, that'swhat it's called is boondocking
Right.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Dry camping Okay, dry camping.
Dry camping Okay, dry camping.
Just translating, I just had tocatch up.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
And so if you're doing that, yeah, there's a lot
of places you could find thatyou could pull into and probably
stay for free, not for any reallength of time.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Right, but a night or two nights yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
But other than that, if you are a camper and you've
decided, hey, I want to investin a camper, first and foremost,
know that they're veryexpensive, yes.
Secondly, they're not made likethey used to be made.
No, by any stretch of theimagination.
They also have a lot oftechnical stuff in them, right
you?
know, just like with the newcars.
Yeah, and the more you get onit, the more that can break down
(10:05):
.
Right, and we've found thatwith our motorhome.
Um, because we have everythingon that thing and, trust me, I
think dr domain has replacedeverything.
Yeah, if it can break, it will.
And people say you know, why doyou take so many tools with you
?
If we could take a u-haululwith tools in the back, we would
.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Well, you got the toy hauler.
Just put a toolbox back there,strap it down, it's full of
other stuff.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
We even have a washer dryer back there.
So you know I mean, but the youknow, when we talk about the
costs associated with camping,it's just, it's almost appalling
because people are trying totake vacations whereby they can
spend time with their kids.
Now, right and oh OK, well,just try to get away from the
(10:52):
kids?
Yeah, you know, and you caneither take a big fancy vacation
where you can fly somewhere,stay at a nice resort, go out of
the country, whatever it is,you can go, do that.
Or you can, you know, go awayfor the weekends, yeah, or long
weekends, or a holiday, or avacation for the summer, and a
(11:13):
lot of times it is much cheaperthan taking, you know, a
european vacation, by anystretch right um, but I will
tell you, the cost of a campsiteanymore is getting crazy.
Yeah, am I wrong, dr Domey?
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Well, they do like they use the same strategy that
other recreational places do,that whole idea of surge pricing
.
Yes, like around Memorial Dayboop you know, doubles or
triples?
Speaker 2 (11:43):
And the location of it.
Is it close to a nationalmonument?
Is?
Speaker 3 (11:47):
it close to a theme park.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Right, yeah, can you even get in yeah, can you even
get in?
Speaker 1 (11:53):
because most of them are not first come, first serve
anymore, right, um?
And if they are, you're screwed, unless you're a local where
you can take your tent out thereand put it up before you can
get your camper out there.
But otherwise you know you'rereserving on an online system,
correct, and you kind of getwhat you get, right.
Yeah, sometimes you can pickyour your spot, but a lot of
times you get what you get.
(12:14):
And if you've never been therebefore you don't know what
you're getting.
Yeah.
So, just to give you an example, we went up to Wisconsin here
oh, I know this one, yeah, andDr Domain sent the video, oh my
goodness.
So we stayed at a KOA and I'llbe honest with you, I don't like
KOAs.
(12:34):
I do not like KOAs at all.
Now, there's a lot of peopleout there who think that they
have a lot to offer.
They have the amenities.
Most times, the amenities arenot up and running anyway, right
?
But um, they're very expensiveand they cram them in there like
you could almost roast your hotdog out your door on the
neighbor's fire.
(12:54):
Right, that's how close you are.
So they're very, very close and, of course, they're going to
take advantage of the amount ofspace that they have and put
every particular type of slot inthere, move everybody in and
out.
So we go up to wisconsin, we'reat a koa, and we did not know
this when we booked it, becausewe booked it online and it was
(13:17):
about what was it?
135 a night, plus tax, plusfees, plus whatever.
So you end up paying about 150a night, plus we're paying for
fuel to get up there, right, andwe're taking a couple of days
to get up there, right, and sowe, we've spent the night
somewhere else and whatever.
And uh, we get up there andit's on a freaking train long.
(13:52):
And it's not just Now.
Don't get me wrong, I don'tmind trains, but this train was
the loudest train I have everheard in my life and we were
across, right across the roadfrom it, and dr domain did take
(14:14):
a video of me and he said hey,jane, what are you doing?
You can't even hear my voicebecause it was so loud.
You couldn't hear my voice.
I know it's so loud.
Because it was so loud, youcouldn't hear my voice on the
video, and here we're paying$150.
Now here's how they describe itYou'll be lulled to sleep.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
With chloroform.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
With the sound of the tracks from the Northern
Railway or whatever the heck itis, and they bury that in the
description.
It wasn't online, but they buryit into their Facebook
description, somewhere whereyou're being lulled to sleep.
Lulled to sleep, my ass, okay.
That sounded like an atomicbomb went off in the
neighborhood just down the roadand it was crazy.
(15:02):
And we talked to him about it.
We said could you move us?
No, we're full, of course.
Is there a discount for havingto take this crappy space?
No, that's against our policy.
Go be lulled to sleep.
Yeah, it was so bad, we'restuck there for four nights.
And I wasn't an asshole aboutit.
(15:22):
I said, listen, bad, we'restuck there for four nights.
And, and I wasn't an assholeabout it.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
I said listen, is there something you can do to
help us here?
What are they going to do?
Stop the trains?
No, they could have moved thisshe's here jane's here.
We gotta stop the trains forthe next four days.
Well, you know, if you can doit, if you got that kind of pull
.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
I'm just saying, if you got that kind of pull, do it
.
But I wasn't an asshole.
I just said hey, listen, hey,listen, you know, could you move
us?
And they go no, we're full.
Yeah.
And I said is there a discountfor being over here?
And they go no.
And I said you know this is.
I said, had we known this, wewould have booked somewhere else
.
And I said, you know, and it'sMemorial Day weekend and he
(15:57):
looked at me and he goes well, Ican refund your money and you
can go down the road.
And I said there's nowhere togo down the road.
And he knows that Everything isfull, and they know that and
we're a state away, yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
What, and they know that, and that's the surge
pricing and things like that.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
And I said you know, listen, okay, it is what it is,
and you know we lived through it, yeah through it.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Yeah, but it was.
It was tough.
I mean, it was really tough.
Note to self I will not do thatagain.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
I mean check the maps for railways nearby.
Don't even if they say you'llbe lulled to sleep by this the
swing like a hammer to theforehead.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Yeah, define lull, okay, so we get you know.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
So back to you know kind of the little quirks and
things like that.
So you pull into your site andyou know everybody's got their
own little space right and nowthey're decorating it and like
they're gonna live there for along time.
Some of them might some do, butsome I mean, you think about
our campground.
That's in grimes, that's hugelypopular, cuddies oh yeah, but
(17:07):
they live there, they do, theylive there.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
These are people that come in for the weekend and
they have homes, but they havepermanent parking out at this
campground year around.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
So they they come into these little ab spaces and
they're like right next to usand I can almost hear them
peeing.
You know, from from mike mikemotorhome.
We got a class a, we got a bigunit and I can hear them what
you heard him?
Speaker 3 (17:30):
what peeing.
Oh, what'd you think?
Speaker 1 (17:32):
european, european european so you got these little
bitties, little bitty sitesokay, and every how many times a
day, dr Domain, did you get atext message from them telling
you don't do this, do this,don't do this, do this?
Speaker 3 (17:51):
Yeah, it was borderline harassment.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
It was borderline harassment, it was.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
They spammed me so hard.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
And then they had a new section that was being built
and it wasn't done yet and itwasn't fenced in or anything
like that.
So I take the dogs down and Iturn the dogs loose because
there's nobody down there, mydogs stay with me.
Get a text message Please donot go down into the new area
and keep your dogs on a leashand I just want to go screw you
(18:18):
as hard as you possibly could.
Okay, you know, and half thestuff didn't work and it was
like it was just annoying.
And so here's everybody whopulls into their little spaces,
and now everybody, and mosttimes people are really really
nice, yeah, but then you got.
You got the shit shows.
(18:39):
You got uncle eddie out thereyou got uncle Eddie out there
and you're just watching.
Yeah, and you're just.
You know, that's part of theentertainment.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
It is kind of part of the entertainment.
Grab a beer, start your fireand watch the neighbors.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
And so somebody else is trying to back their unit in
and he's yelling at her andshe's going can't you see me,
you stupid son of a bitch, youknow?
Speaker 2 (18:58):
And so he's pulling in, pulling out you know five
times and he's going.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Where the hell are you?
I can't see shit and they'rescreaming at each other.
And you're right, that's partof the entertainment, yeah, it
is.
But once you get there, thereare little clicks.
Oh yeah, there are littleclicks, yep, and whether it's in
a resort or whether it's at avillage or whether it's at a
campground, it's at a village orwhether it's at a campground,
(19:26):
there's some little things thatpeople do that you kind of go
what the hell is that all about?
Name one of them dr domain.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
What's the pink loofah mean?
Speaker 2 (19:31):
I don't remember, but swingers, oh no, that's the
pineapple upside down, yeah, sono, it's a soft swap soft yeah,
the people who like to do itwith others in the room.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
This is a good time for a quiz?
I think yeah let's do that.
Okay, yellow Yellow loofah.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Yellow loofah means they like to pee on each other.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Holy R Kelly.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
I know she's really lowered the bar of this show.
It's just you and me now, Bobby.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
Okay, yep, you're out .
Speaker 3 (20:01):
So yellow mid-level swap for those who want to have
fun but are still nervous.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
These are all loofahs .
Speaker 1 (20:09):
Someone's going to drop the soap.
Loofahs that they hang fromtheir golf cart.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
You start with white, which is normal, which is
beginner, and then purple is avoyeur and people who like to
watch.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Okay, and then?
Speaker 3 (20:21):
it goes pink and then blue is the lowest level of a
full swap okay, those who canplay well with others, and then
yellow is the mid-level swap.
They're still nervous.
Black is let's do it like theydo all out.
Yeah, pee diddy party yeah,yeah, yeah, that's a full,
(20:45):
that's a good one right, I onlyknew about the pineapples and
the pink flamingos so there's,there's black, there's the full
swap okay those who say you knowwhat the hell, let it all go
down.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Yeah, I think we all know what full swap is.
And then teal.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
Teal is like the top and that is bisexual.
For those that want to increasetheir dating chances, oh.
Okay, so there's always theselittle.
That'd be a good opening lineright there.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
So there's always the sex cults there's always going
to be.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
The pineapples and stuff Did you?
Speaker 1 (21:24):
know this.
There's even people of colorcamping clubs.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
I'm a color.
Where's my club?
Speaker 1 (21:32):
You'll get clubbed.
No, there are.
There's some for people ofcolor, there are some that are
just obviously for, like, lgbtq.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Okay.
There's camp clubs for that.
Yeah, so they feel safe.
Yeah, yeah, they feel safe Wellamongst.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
I don't care what you do in your bedroom.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
I mean, you don't want the skinheads, you know,
next to the LGBTQs.
There's motorcycle.
There's motorcycle club groups.
Why do you bring up motorcycleclubs?
When I said skinheads, becausethat immediately made me think
of your friends.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
They're bald Because they're old, dr.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Domain is bald.
Everyone's got their own club.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
You got your alphabet soup and all that and
everything.
I've got nothing against that.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
I've got nothing against transsexuals.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
But they changed.
Okay, dad jokes, I've gotnothing against that, I've got
nothing against transsexuals butthey changed.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Oh jeez, okay, dad, jokes Doesn't work anymore, oh
my gosh.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
So let's get back to you know.
First of all, there's a lot ofclicks, there's a lot of things
that go on.
You know camping and there's alot more to it, and people go oh
, it would be so cool to go outand go camping.
There is a lot to it.
There's a lot of times thatyou'll pull into a campsite and
you know that there's a bunch ofpeople that are there together
(22:49):
and you just did not fit in.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Well, that's what we did when we took that whole
circle in the campground withthe cousins and we had just a
huge party and it was all of usin that entire circle was our
family.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
We had about 10 campers there and we're all in
one circle and yeah we all justpartied down and it was cousins,
yeah, and so you know that'salways fun and um, but again,
you know there's a, there is alot to it, and I just think that
people think that it's no bigdeal.
Now there's also differenttypes of campsites, right, so
(23:25):
you can.
We talked about Everything frombasic to full service Tent.
Yeah To just electricity, yeahTo electricity and water To
electricity, water sewer Toelectricity, water sewer, you
know?
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Community clubhouse exercise room.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
Yeah, Internet, yeah, cable TV, yep, you know all
that business and so.
But you're paying for that.
Yeah, absolutely You're payingfor that.
Yeah, absolutely You're payingpremium for that, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
So you know, I would rather, I would rather be dry
camping myself.
We did a lot of, I think, ofdry camping when, when us kids
were little.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
We did In the black Hills.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
And, honestly, those were some of my favorite family
vacations.
I hated Disneyland.
I hated Disney world, thecamping in the black Hills oh.
God, just throw me in the riverat that point.
But the camping in the BlackHills I absolutely loved.
And it's not just because Dadscared the shit out of my sister
by pretending to be a bear, itwas, I mean, it was just.
(24:23):
It was a lot more just raw, youknow, just nature and raw.
Now my kids bless those kids.
So I rented a cabin out at thelake and nice cabin sleeps a,
you know, full kitchen, just airconditioning, everything.
And we're right by the lake.
You know everything's set upfor us didn't even make it a
(24:44):
night.
These freaking kids.
I rented it for three days andtwo nights.
First night can we go home?
Can we go home?
Can we go home?
Why?
I don't know, because they'renot like me, I don't know.
I don't know.
Two of them ended up going homeand the other two couldn't go
home because they didn't getalong with the other two.
And it was just like the wholetime I was just like this was a
(25:06):
disaster.
I should have come out here bymyself, rented this huge cabin
by myself like it was.
It was pointless.
You let the kids ruin your ruinyour spot again ruin your spot
I'm like, oh, you know familyand we're gonna be so loving and
have so much fun.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
Stupid, stupid, stupid we, you know, we have a
good time camping, for sure, andwe have the motorhome, and so
it's not like we're we're right,inconvenienced, but I mean it
was a cabin?
Yeah, you had a cabin and youknow you can go pretty much
anywhere you want to go, likeyou mentioned.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Yeah, um as long as you can afford the gas, as long
as you can get in.
We had kayaks, we had the beachto swim on, we had the
concession stands, but it is alot of work, but did you have
Wi-Fi?
No.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
There.
That was the point.
That was a kiss of death rightthere, yep you just solved the
crime.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
That was the point.
There was a TV that had antenna.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
I totally agree with you on that one.
You solved the crime.
But, yeah, they didn't haveenough time to detox.
They didn't have Wi-Fi no, fromthe.
They didn't have enough time todetox from the digital part, so
just to go camping.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Some of the things that you have to do.
First of all, you have to packright, and you not only have to
pack your clothes.
You have to pack towels, youhave to pack soap, you have to
pack dishes, you have to pack,you know.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
I'm thinking food, first aid, yeah, everything.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Everything.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
You have to take your house and put it in your camper
Right.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
And so for us, since we already have two houses, we
now have a third house, becauseeverywhere we go, we go, oh,
where's that thing?
And since we kept saying thatnow we've got three of
everything, yeah, towels,everything.
And so that works out for us.
But let's say that you're goingcamping in a tent or you know
you're taking a camper out andthen your camper goes into a
(26:54):
storage unit or it goes to astorage facility.
You need to take that stuff out, otherwise mice get in there
and you know.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Well, with a tent, I mean you need a bedroll and a
pillow, and your go bag, I meanreally you know, a couple of hot
dogs, some granola bars, water.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
It's a little bit more than that.
You've got to have firewood,you've got to have fire starters
, you've got to have matches.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Well, fire starters I could see, but firewood I mean.
If you're going camping, don'tyou think that you would?
You've got to have water.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
That's why I said water You've got to have a
pooper.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
You, the three-leaf ones.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
I mean.
So some things that.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
That pine cone Hard to reach.
Spots the pine cone.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
There you go, so some things that we've watched that
have happened to people.
You know, besides backing intosomething, pulling out and
hitting the side of something,taking out a limb off of a, a
tree, taking out a wire uh,overhead wire um, almost hitting
your spouse, it's behind thething while you're trying to
(27:57):
back up, probably notaccidentally.
We were parked next to a camperand I remember dr domain was
somewhere else and I think hewas out on the motorcycle and I
saw water coming out of thiscamper next door and I thought,
wow, that's a lot of watercoming out of there you know,
(28:18):
and I had just walked in andhere he came on a motorcycle and
he pulled up and he goes what'sgoing on over there?
And I said I don't know, and heruns over and he shuts their
faucet off.
Yeah, and just as he did that,the guy that owned the camper
come pulling up over there and Isaid I don't know, and he runs
over and he shuts their faucetoff.
Yeah, and just as he did that,the guy that owned the camper
come pulling up.
They had two dogs in there andthe dog somehow had turned the
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water on and flooded the wholething.
I mean, it was pouring out.
It wasn't like coming out likea faucet, it was pouring out.
So when we leave, I don't careif we even go just to walmart we
shut our water right and youknow, because it's just one less
thing that you have to worryabout.
Yeah, right, and you know someof the other things.
I mean we we lock a lot ofstuff up, but most people are
(29:00):
pretty courteous, and you knowaren't going to come over and
steal your stuff.
What are some other things, DrDomain, that we've kind of
learned to have to do just tokind of survive?
Speaker 3 (29:11):
I learned a lot of my lessons earlier, so you're the
benefit of that Like.
So, on a lot of the RVs you'vegot an inlet to clean out the
black tank.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
So plug it in For those of you who are not campers
, where all the poop is thepooper.
The poop is yeah, poop hopperthing, yeah, the tank with all
the goodness um.
So the shitter's full tank yeah, all the corn kernels, let's
continue, but anyway.
So the whore, the, the hose,the hose goes in there the whore
(29:48):
goes in that black, so the hosegoes in there and horse goes in
that black herpinderso the hose goes in there and it
cleans out the tank.
And then you open up a valve.
Well, I didn't have the valveup and I started cleaning the
tank out.
That opened the valve in amoment.
I left, walked around no natecomes around, he's in the back
because my, my son, uh, comesover and says dad, and look, and
(30:12):
off the side of the camper isjust this waterfall of brownness
Coming out the vent pipe,because all those tanks have a
vent pipe and it filled the tankand the toilet was shut so it
sealed.
It didn't come up to the toilet, thank.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
God.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
And it just found the path of least resistance.
So it took, the valve went up,and so what it did, was it
created like?
Speaker 1 (30:43):
a waterfall a you know the hot chocolate fountain
thing, it was like that and itjust kind of was chunky
chocolate.
Yeah, yeah, wow, yeah, it'sgross.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
It was like that and it just kind of covered, only it
was chunky chocolate.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
Yeah, yeah, wow, yeah , that's gross.
It was really nasty.
That would be terrible.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
So yeah, don't do that.
That's what I learned.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
Don't do that.
Don't do that.
That's probably not something,yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
Putting a pressure regulator on the water.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
Yeah, that's a good point.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
Otherwise, um, you know, a lot of it comes around
the plumbing piece when you'recamping you know, emptying the
black before you empty the grayand all that fun stuff yeah, and
so you know there's just I.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
I guess you know I just wanted to kind of talk
about it.
We have a lot of friends whocamp, right, and you know, we
have a lot of friends who don'tand those who don't go.
Oh, that would be fun.
Oh, so much fun.
It's so much fun.
It's a lot of stress, it is andit's a lot of work.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
I mean, it can be real fun to see some great
places and you know things likethat.
But if you don't, if you aren'tmeticulous in the preparation
and things like that of it,you're screwed.
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
And so you know if you're in a tent now you have to
buy ice, you have to keep yourstuff cold.
You know you have to try to dothat, but it is.
I don't care what anybody says.
It's a lot of work, it is.
I don't care what you're in.
So just think about that, ifyou know.
You say I want to go out andbuy an RV.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
Well, my whole plan is I mean not necessarily an rv,
like it may be an old, oldwinnebago, but you know I'm
gonna slap some solar panels onthat thing and just leave.
And you know, as soon as I canafford to pay off my house and
just go, yeah just go, I get it.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
I think there's something appealing about the
minimalist, you know like yeah,yeah, the dry camping, I like
that um, you know, getting likea small teardrop or something
like that.
I think the problem with owningwhat we own is we're limited.
We can't just pull into anyplace.
It's got to be a certain sizeand so that kind of limits where
(32:43):
we can go, and if you're smallyou pretty much can go almost
anywhere.
I spent many years not payingfor camping.
just go to the national forestout in colorado yeah, you don't
pay you know you just you find aplace, you trail and you just
go park alongside or whatever.
But it's not so easy.
Now the big units.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
Yeah, and the big units.
You have to remembersomething's always breaking yeah
, I don't care if it's brand new.
It's just one more thing tohave to fix and they're very
costly.
And you know, camping equipmentor RV equipment is not cheap.
Right, it's very expensive.
So I think that's probably allwe've got to talk about today.
(33:27):
We've talked about thecampsites, we've talked about
the different types of camping,yeah, and the different groups.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Yeah, absolutely so.
Yeah, I think that thatactually is all the insanity
that we have for today.
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welcome everyone to today's show.
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My name is jane burr, myco-host is my daughter, bobby
Joy, and for the next severalminutes we're going to talk
(00:28):
about.
Guess what we're going to talkabout today, bobby?
Did I give you a topic today.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Well, you told me what it was, but you know the
weather's getting nice andsummer's around the corner, so
uh, yeah, what's the camping?
Speaker 1 (00:41):
camping, camping, tenting, going all out and you
know getting away, and, uh, thepoor people's vacation that's.
You know what?
Speaker 2 (00:51):
it isn't poor people anymore not anymore, oh my
goodness glamping has taken thenation by storm, camping alone,
and the cost for fuel and thecost for the units.
Listen, she's already gettingonto it, onto the glamping thing
, because she's talking aboutfuel and everything else.
I'm talking about a sleepingbag and a one-person tent.
Oh yeah, that's not happening.
(01:11):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Yeah, that's not happening.
So the reason I wanted to talkabout camping is because,
whether you're staying at aresort, or whether you're just
staying at a campground, or even, you know know, a state or a
national park, there are someweird things that go on or even
your neighbor's backyard.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
They just don't know it yet even your neighbor's
backyard.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
So, uh, we live out in the country, I do anyway and
uh, the house in in georgia isup in the mountains and we have
an acreage up there too, so wedon't have neighbors like right
on top of us or anything likethat, and I would.
I would not like that at all.
I wouldn't.
I wouldn't move back to thecity unless I was forced to,
(01:54):
like when my girls think they'regoing to put me in a home or
something like that.
You know, that's what I'll callit, no we call it the shed the
shed, yeah, the she shed the sheshould have been nicer than a
shit, a shed.
She'd have been doing better ifshe would have, uh, just been
nicer.
(02:14):
So uh, anyway, I know there's alot of campers out there, a lot
of people who go rving, and youknow some people just go
intense, like you you weretalking about Right and they
rough it, they take mountainbikes or you know they just go
up there with their kids andthey bring the bare necessities
and they have a great time.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
That's not me, or they go dirt bikes, utvs, things
like that, yeah, and go in thedesert for a few days, yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
That's not me, I'll just tell you that right now.
And then there's people who buythese little teardrop campers,
some of the older campers, youknow, like the little
streamlines, the littlestreamline campers.
Yeah, you know, those littleteardrop campers are like almost
$30,000.
Yeah, actually my dad'srefurbishing an old streamliner
(03:02):
teardrop type camper that maybefits two people, if you're lucky
wow, yeah, yeah, they're veryexpensive now, so they've
definitely gotten a corner onthe market as it relates to
campers and rvs.
And then there's people whohave, you know, the great big,
long fifth wheel.
There's bumper poles, um,there's people that have.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
She has one no I don't have a fifth wheel.
Well, no, you have one of thegreat big long ones with the toe
behind, and okay calm down yeahso there's people who have the
big, uh fifth wheels and I meanthey're very luxurious.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Oh yeah, you've got tour bus quality yeah yeah, I
mean super nice, and you knowthey're running anywhere from
100 200 300 000 just for for afifth wheel and, uh, we saw some
really nice ones, didn't we?
Speaker 2 (03:54):
dr domain, uh, on the road I mean super nice, not the
type that you'd see cousineddie outside going shitters
full no, not any of thatbusiness.
No, old winnebago's or anythinglike that makes me sad and you
know a lot of these.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
When you talk about glamping, I mean you've got
everything.
This is like another home yeah,it's a totally.
It's like a five-star hotel,absolutely.
And even the fifth wheels havemultiple bathrooms in them, yep,
and outdoor showers, outdoorkitchens.
It's crazy what you can get ina fifth wheel.
(04:32):
And then there's the motorhomes, and yes, we do have a 40-foot
motorhome and we do um, it is atoy hauler also, and so we take
motorcycles in the back, andthen we do, you know, we tow a
car and we do have e-bikes thatwe take I like how you're trying
to like downplay all of thisand yeah, so it's not like we're
(04:53):
roughing it by any stretch ofthe imagination.
I will say that it is notuncomfortable to live in, for
sure.
But um, once you get to, I'vealways said what weird little
birds we are.
Because on this earth we find alittle plot of land and we say
stay off of it, this is ours, donot trespass.
I'm going to put a fence uparound it and I'm going to build
(05:15):
my house, or I'm going to havea house there, and this is going
to be just mine.
And now it's gotten to thepoint where we take our house
with us.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
So not only do we take our house with us, so not
only do we have our house, wehave our house that we take with
us.
I mean, that's that's honestlyalways been.
My dream, though, is not tohave the house on the permanent
plot of land.
It's to be able to get in myhouse and drive it far, far away
from the people I don't want totalk to right now you know,
back when I was growing up, youwould hear about people who
would be living in a van down bythe river.
(05:47):
Yep, chris farley, yeah or orI'd be living in a van down by
the river.
Bless his heart.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Oh man, that almost made me choke, or they would be
living on the beach.
You know, they would have theirvan up there and they'd be
living on the beach, or they'dhave a tent that you know, yeah,
or even their motorcycle with atent attached to it.
Yep, and we thought they wereweirdos, homeless weirdos.
Homeless weirdos, of course, insome respect, you know, did Ted
(06:21):
Bundy live in a van?
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Right, I don't know.
You know, did ted bundy live ina right?
I don't know.
I don't know jeffrey dommer, Imean, he had his own nice
apartment, but we're not talkingabout that.
How?
Speaker 1 (06:29):
did that come up?
You start.
So we used to think that thosepeople were crazy, right, and
now it's like wow it's the dream, it's the dream of a lot of
people to just get out fromunder what they've got get out
of debt.
Don't have to work so manyhours.
You know who are you out toimpress right, I mean it used to
(06:51):
be.
You got to keep up with thejoneses.
I don't even know who thejoneses are.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
A lot of these campers are are built to impress
, though, as well I mean,they've come into the realm of
it.
And you know, when I was downin florida, I went down to
florida for a few months andstayed down there with my now
ex-husband.
We actually lived on StPetersburg Beach.
I mean, we lived in the sand onthe beach because the hotels
(07:16):
were crappy.
We didn't, you know, have aplace to rent at the time and we
just drove down there and westayed on the beach and it was
glorious.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And there's a lot of peoplethat think, man, what a life
that would be, you know to toactually do that.
But you know, if you're goingto live out of a van, out of a
tent, that really is kind ofroughing it because it isn't you
.
You don't have all theamenities that you have in your
home or that you would have in amotor home or in a camper well,
(07:46):
but let's talk about that,because I think that it's not.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
It's not what it once was so like when we had, like
the mark 8 van, you know we hadthe little tv in it, the little
table and the back, you know,folded down into a bed.
That was luxurious back in the80s I mean that was like high
high dollar.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
We were rolling, yeah , yeah, they envied us they did.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
And now, you know, even with my suv, I can plug in
you know, a small tv.
Have a wireless router.
Okay, I have internet, I havetv.
I have a gym membership to oneof the largest gyms in the
nation that has all theselocations where I can shower,
work out.
You know things like that.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
I'm trying to get past thatworkout.
You're gonna go.
This is hypothetical.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Oh, jesus lord, okay because you kind of I'm saying
you know you, for you $25 amonth, you can get a gym
membership to someplace that hasthousands of locations across
the country.
You got a place to shower, yougot a place to, you know, have
electricity, blow dry your hair,whatever, brush your teeth,
things like that.
And then you know what otheramenities do you really need?
(08:59):
You've got, you know, your TV,your radio, you've got the
ability to travel, you can stopand wash your clothes.
You have everything you needright there.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Okay, so let's talk about the costs associated
outside of that, because ifyou're boondocking which is not
hooking up to anything, that'swhat it's called is boondocking
Right.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Dry camping Okay, dry camping.
Dry camping Okay, dry camping.
Just translating, I just had tocatch up.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
And so if you're doing that, yeah, there's a lot
of places you could find thatyou could pull into and probably
stay for free, not for any reallength of time.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Right, but a night or two nights yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
But other than that, if you are a camper and you've
decided, hey, I want to investin a camper, first and foremost,
know that they're veryexpensive, yes.
Secondly, they're not made likethey used to be made.
No, by any stretch of theimagination.
They also have a lot oftechnical stuff in them, right
you?
know, just like with the newcars.
Yeah, and the more you get onit, the more that can break down
(10:05):
.
Right, and we've found thatwith our motorhome.
Um, because we have everythingon that thing and, trust me, I
think dr domain has replacedeverything.
Yeah, if it can break, it will.
And people say you know, why doyou take so many tools with you
?
If we could take a u-haululwith tools in the back, we would
.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Well, you got the toy hauler.
Just put a toolbox back there,strap it down, it's full of
other stuff.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
We even have a washer dryer back there.
So you know I mean, but the youknow, when we talk about the
costs associated with camping,it's just, it's almost appalling
because people are trying totake vacations whereby they can
spend time with their kids.
Now, right and oh OK, well,just try to get away from the
(10:52):
kids?
Yeah, you know, and you caneither take a big fancy vacation
where you can fly somewhere,stay at a nice resort, go out of
the country, whatever it is,you can go, do that.
Or you can, you know, go awayfor the weekends, yeah, or long
weekends, or a holiday, or avacation for the summer, and a
(11:13):
lot of times it is much cheaperthan taking, you know, a
european vacation, by anystretch right um, but I will
tell you, the cost of a campsiteanymore is getting crazy.
Yeah, am I wrong, dr Domey?
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Well, they do like they use the same strategy that
other recreational places do,that whole idea of surge pricing
.
Yes, like around Memorial Dayboop you know, doubles or
triples?
Speaker 2 (11:43):
And the location of it.
Is it close to a nationalmonument?
Is?
Speaker 3 (11:47):
it close to a theme park.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Right, yeah, can you even get in yeah, can you even
get in?
Speaker 1 (11:53):
because most of them are not first come, first serve
anymore, right, um?
And if they are, you're screwed, unless you're a local where
you can take your tent out thereand put it up before you can
get your camper out there.
But otherwise you know you'rereserving on an online system,
correct, and you kind of getwhat you get, right.
Yeah, sometimes you can pickyour your spot, but a lot of
times you get what you get.
(12:14):
And if you've never been therebefore you don't know what
you're getting.
Yeah.
So, just to give you an example, we went up to Wisconsin here
oh, I know this one, yeah, andDr Domain sent the video, oh my
goodness.
So we stayed at a KOA and I'llbe honest with you, I don't like
KOAs.
(12:34):
I do not like KOAs at all.
Now, there's a lot of peopleout there who think that they
have a lot to offer.
They have the amenities.
Most times, the amenities arenot up and running anyway, right
?
But um, they're very expensiveand they cram them in there like
you could almost roast your hotdog out your door on the
neighbor's fire.
(12:54):
Right, that's how close you are.
So they're very, very close and, of course, they're going to
take advantage of the amount ofspace that they have and put
every particular type of slot inthere, move everybody in and
out.
So we go up to wisconsin, we'reat a koa, and we did not know
this when we booked it, becausewe booked it online and it was
(13:17):
about what was it?
135 a night, plus tax, plusfees, plus whatever.
So you end up paying about 150a night, plus we're paying for
fuel to get up there, right, andwe're taking a couple of days
to get up there, right, and sowe, we've spent the night
somewhere else and whatever.
And uh, we get up there andit's on a freaking train long.
(13:52):
And it's not just Now.
Don't get me wrong, I don'tmind trains, but this train was
the loudest train I have everheard in my life and we were
across, right across the roadfrom it, and dr domain did take
(14:14):
a video of me and he said hey,jane, what are you doing?
You can't even hear my voicebecause it was so loud.
You couldn't hear my voice.
I know it's so loud.
Because it was so loud, youcouldn't hear my voice on the
video, and here we're paying$150.
Now here's how they describe itYou'll be lulled to sleep.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
With chloroform.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
With the sound of the tracks from the Northern
Railway or whatever the heck itis, and they bury that in the
description.
It wasn't online, but they buryit into their Facebook
description, somewhere whereyou're being lulled to sleep.
Lulled to sleep, my ass, okay.
That sounded like an atomicbomb went off in the
neighborhood just down the roadand it was crazy.
(15:02):
And we talked to him about it.
We said could you move us?
No, we're full, of course.
Is there a discount for havingto take this crappy space?
No, that's against our policy.
Go be lulled to sleep.
Yeah, it was so bad, we'restuck there for four nights.
And I wasn't an asshole aboutit.
(15:22):
I said, listen, bad, we'restuck there for four nights.
And, and I wasn't an assholeabout it.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
I said listen, is there something you can do to
help us here?
What are they going to do?
Stop the trains?
No, they could have moved thisshe's here jane's here.
We gotta stop the trains forthe next four days.
Well, you know, if you can doit, if you got that kind of pull
.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
I'm just saying, if you got that kind of pull, do it
.
But I wasn't an asshole.
I just said hey, listen, hey,listen, you know, could you move
us?
And they go no, we're full.
Yeah.
And I said is there a discountfor being over here?
And they go no.
And I said you know this is.
I said, had we known this, wewould have booked somewhere else
.
And I said, you know, and it'sMemorial Day weekend and he
(15:57):
looked at me and he goes well, Ican refund your money and you
can go down the road.
And I said there's nowhere togo down the road.
And he knows that Everything isfull, and they know that and
we're a state away, yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
What, and they know that, and that's the surge
pricing and things like that.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
And I said you know, listen, okay, it is what it is,
and you know we lived through it, yeah through it.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Yeah, but it was.
It was tough.
I mean, it was really tough.
Note to self I will not do thatagain.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
I mean check the maps for railways nearby.
Don't even if they say you'llbe lulled to sleep by this the
swing like a hammer to theforehead.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Yeah, define lull, okay, so we get you know.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
So back to you know kind of the little quirks and
things like that.
So you pull into your site andyou know everybody's got their
own little space right and nowthey're decorating it and like
they're gonna live there for along time.
Some of them might some do, butsome I mean, you think about
our campground.
That's in grimes, that's hugelypopular, cuddies oh yeah, but
(17:07):
they live there, they do, theylive there.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
These are people that come in for the weekend and
they have homes, but they havepermanent parking out at this
campground year around.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
So they they come into these little ab spaces and
they're like right next to usand I can almost hear them
peeing.
You know, from from mike mikemotorhome.
We got a class a, we got a bigunit and I can hear them what
you heard him?
Speaker 3 (17:30):
what peeing.
Oh, what'd you think?
Speaker 1 (17:32):
european, european european so you got these little
bitties, little bitty sitesokay, and every how many times a
day, dr Domain, did you get atext message from them telling
you don't do this, do this,don't do this, do this?
Speaker 3 (17:51):
Yeah, it was borderline harassment.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
It was borderline harassment, it was.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
They spammed me so hard.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
And then they had a new section that was being built
and it wasn't done yet and itwasn't fenced in or anything
like that.
So I take the dogs down and Iturn the dogs loose because
there's nobody down there, mydogs stay with me.
Get a text message Please donot go down into the new area
and keep your dogs on a leashand I just want to go screw you
(18:18):
as hard as you possibly could.
Okay, you know, and half thestuff didn't work and it was
like it was just annoying.
And so here's everybody whopulls into their little spaces,
and now everybody, and mosttimes people are really really
nice, yeah, but then you got.
You got the shit shows.
(18:39):
You got uncle eddie out thereyou got uncle Eddie out there
and you're just watching.
Yeah, and you're just.
You know, that's part of theentertainment.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
It is kind of part of the entertainment.
Grab a beer, start your fireand watch the neighbors.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
And so somebody else is trying to back their unit in
and he's yelling at her andshe's going can't you see me,
you stupid son of a bitch, youknow?
Speaker 2 (18:58):
And so he's pulling in, pulling out you know five
times and he's going.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Where the hell are you?
I can't see shit and they'rescreaming at each other.
And you're right, that's partof the entertainment, yeah, it
is.
But once you get there, thereare little clicks.
Oh yeah, there are littleclicks, yep, and whether it's in
a resort or whether it's at avillage or whether it's at a
campground, it's at a village orwhether it's at a campground,
(19:26):
there's some little things thatpeople do that you kind of go
what the hell is that all about?
Name one of them dr domain.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
What's the pink loofah mean?
Speaker 2 (19:31):
I don't remember, but swingers, oh no, that's the
pineapple upside down, yeah, sono, it's a soft swap soft yeah,
the people who like to do itwith others in the room.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
This is a good time for a quiz?
I think yeah let's do that.
Okay, yellow Yellow loofah.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Yellow loofah means they like to pee on each other.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Holy R Kelly.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
I know she's really lowered the bar of this show.
It's just you and me now, Bobby.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
Okay, yep, you're out .
Speaker 3 (20:01):
So yellow mid-level swap for those who want to have
fun but are still nervous.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
These are all loofahs .
Speaker 1 (20:09):
Someone's going to drop the soap.
Loofahs that they hang fromtheir golf cart.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
You start with white, which is normal, which is
beginner, and then purple is avoyeur and people who like to
watch.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Okay, and then?
Speaker 3 (20:21):
it goes pink and then blue is the lowest level of a
full swap okay, those who canplay well with others, and then
yellow is the mid-level swap.
They're still nervous.
Black is let's do it like theydo all out.
Yeah, pee diddy party yeah,yeah, yeah, that's a full,
(20:45):
that's a good one right, I onlyknew about the pineapples and
the pink flamingos so there's,there's black, there's the full
swap okay those who say you knowwhat the hell, let it all go
down.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Yeah, I think we all know what full swap is.
And then teal.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
Teal is like the top and that is bisexual.
For those that want to increasetheir dating chances, oh.
Okay, so there's always theselittle.
That'd be a good opening lineright there.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
So there's always the sex cults there's always going
to be.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
The pineapples and stuff Did you?
Speaker 1 (21:24):
know this.
There's even people of colorcamping clubs.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
I'm a color.
Where's my club?
Speaker 1 (21:32):
You'll get clubbed.
No, there are.
There's some for people ofcolor, there are some that are
just obviously for, like, lgbtq.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Okay.
There's camp clubs for that.
Yeah, so they feel safe.
Yeah, yeah, they feel safe Wellamongst.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
I don't care what you do in your bedroom.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
I mean, you don't want the skinheads, you know,
next to the LGBTQs.
There's motorcycle.
There's motorcycle club groups.
Why do you bring up motorcycleclubs?
When I said skinheads, becausethat immediately made me think
of your friends.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
They're bald Because they're old, dr.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Domain is bald.
Everyone's got their own club.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
You got your alphabet soup and all that and
everything.
I've got nothing against that.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
I've got nothing against transsexuals.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
But they changed.
Okay, dad jokes, I've gotnothing against that, I've got
nothing against transsexuals butthey changed.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Oh jeez, okay, dad, jokes Doesn't work anymore, oh
my gosh.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
So let's get back to you know.
First of all, there's a lot ofclicks, there's a lot of things
that go on.
You know camping and there's alot more to it, and people go oh
, it would be so cool to go outand go camping.
There is a lot to it.
There's a lot of times thatyou'll pull into a campsite and
you know that there's a bunch ofpeople that are there together
(22:49):
and you just did not fit in.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Well, that's what we did when we took that whole
circle in the campground withthe cousins and we had just a
huge party and it was all of usin that entire circle was our
family.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
We had about 10 campers there and we're all in
one circle and yeah we all justpartied down and it was cousins,
yeah, and so you know that'salways fun and um, but again,
you know there's a, there is alot to it, and I just think that
people think that it's no bigdeal.
Now there's also differenttypes of campsites, right, so
(23:25):
you can.
We talked about Everything frombasic to full service Tent.
Yeah To just electricity, yeahTo electricity and water To
electricity, water sewer Toelectricity, water sewer, you
know?
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Community clubhouse exercise room.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
Yeah, Internet, yeah, cable TV, yep, you know all
that business and so.
But you're paying for that.
Yeah, absolutely You're payingfor that.
Yeah, absolutely You're payingpremium for that, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
So you know, I would rather, I would rather be dry
camping myself.
We did a lot of, I think, ofdry camping when, when us kids
were little.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
We did In the black Hills.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
And, honestly, those were some of my favorite family
vacations.
I hated Disneyland.
I hated Disney world, thecamping in the black Hills oh.
God, just throw me in the riverat that point.
But the camping in the BlackHills I absolutely loved.
And it's not just because Dadscared the shit out of my sister
by pretending to be a bear, itwas, I mean, it was just.
(24:23):
It was a lot more just raw, youknow, just nature and raw.
Now my kids bless those kids.
So I rented a cabin out at thelake and nice cabin sleeps a,
you know, full kitchen, just airconditioning, everything.
And we're right by the lake.
You know everything's set upfor us didn't even make it a
(24:44):
night.
These freaking kids.
I rented it for three days andtwo nights.
First night can we go home?
Can we go home?
Can we go home?
Why?
I don't know, because they'renot like me, I don't know.
I don't know.
Two of them ended up going homeand the other two couldn't go
home because they didn't getalong with the other two.
And it was just like the wholetime I was just like this was a
(25:06):
disaster.
I should have come out here bymyself, rented this huge cabin
by myself like it was.
It was pointless.
You let the kids ruin your ruinyour spot again ruin your spot
I'm like, oh, you know familyand we're gonna be so loving and
have so much fun.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
Stupid, stupid, stupid we, you know, we have a
good time camping, for sure, andwe have the motorhome, and so
it's not like we're we're right,inconvenienced, but I mean it
was a cabin?
Yeah, you had a cabin and youknow you can go pretty much
anywhere you want to go, likeyou mentioned.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Yeah, um as long as you can afford the gas, as long
as you can get in.
We had kayaks, we had the beachto swim on, we had the
concession stands, but it is alot of work, but did you have
Wi-Fi?
No.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
There.
That was the point.
That was a kiss of death rightthere, yep you just solved the
crime.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
That was the point.
There was a TV that had antenna.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
I totally agree with you on that one.
You solved the crime.
But, yeah, they didn't haveenough time to detox.
They didn't have Wi-Fi no, fromthe.
They didn't have enough time todetox from the digital part, so
just to go camping.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Some of the things that you have to do.
First of all, you have to packright, and you not only have to
pack your clothes.
You have to pack towels, youhave to pack soap, you have to
pack dishes, you have to pack,you know.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
I'm thinking food, first aid, yeah, everything.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Everything.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
You have to take your house and put it in your camper
Right.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
And so for us, since we already have two houses, we
now have a third house, becauseeverywhere we go, we go, oh,
where's that thing?
And since we kept saying thatnow we've got three of
everything, yeah, towels,everything.
And so that works out for us.
But let's say that you're goingcamping in a tent or you know
you're taking a camper out andthen your camper goes into a
(26:54):
storage unit or it goes to astorage facility.
You need to take that stuff out, otherwise mice get in there
and you know.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Well, with a tent, I mean you need a bedroll and a
pillow, and your go bag, I meanreally you know, a couple of hot
dogs, some granola bars, water.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
It's a little bit more than that.
You've got to have firewood,you've got to have fire starters
, you've got to have matches.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Well, fire starters I could see, but firewood I mean.
If you're going camping, don'tyou think that you would?
You've got to have water.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
That's why I said water You've got to have a
pooper.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
You, the three-leaf ones.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
I mean.
So some things that.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
That pine cone Hard to reach.
Spots the pine cone.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
There you go, so some things that we've watched that
have happened to people.
You know, besides backing intosomething, pulling out and
hitting the side of something,taking out a limb off of a, a
tree, taking out a wire uh,overhead wire um, almost hitting
your spouse, it's behind thething while you're trying to
(27:57):
back up, probably notaccidentally.
We were parked next to a camperand I remember dr domain was
somewhere else and I think hewas out on the motorcycle and I
saw water coming out of thiscamper next door and I thought,
wow, that's a lot of watercoming out of there you know,
(28:18):
and I had just walked in andhere he came on a motorcycle and
he pulled up and he goes what'sgoing on over there?
And I said I don't know, and heruns over and he shuts their
faucet off.
Yeah, and just as he did that,the guy that owned the camper
come pulling up over there and Isaid I don't know, and he runs
over and he shuts their faucetoff.
Yeah, and just as he did that,the guy that owned the camper
come pulling up.
They had two dogs in there andthe dog somehow had turned the
(28:39):
water on and flooded the wholething.
I mean, it was pouring out.
It wasn't like coming out likea faucet, it was pouring out.
So when we leave, I don't careif we even go just to walmart we
shut our water right and youknow, because it's just one less
thing that you have to worryabout.
Yeah, right, and you know someof the other things.
I mean we we lock a lot ofstuff up, but most people are
(29:00):
pretty courteous, and you knowaren't going to come over and
steal your stuff.
What are some other things, DrDomain, that we've kind of
learned to have to do just tokind of survive?
Speaker 3 (29:11):
I learned a lot of my lessons earlier, so you're the
benefit of that Like.
So, on a lot of the RVs you'vegot an inlet to clean out the
black tank.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
So plug it in For those of you who are not campers
, where all the poop is thepooper.
The poop is yeah, poop hopperthing, yeah, the tank with all
the goodness um.
So the shitter's full tank yeah, all the corn kernels, let's
continue, but anyway.
So the whore, the, the hose,the hose goes in there the whore
(29:48):
goes in that black, so the hosegoes in there and horse goes in
that black herpinderso the hose goes in there and it
cleans out the tank.
And then you open up a valve.
Well, I didn't have the valveup and I started cleaning the
tank out.
That opened the valve in amoment.
I left, walked around no natecomes around, he's in the back
because my, my son, uh, comesover and says dad, and look, and
(30:12):
off the side of the camper isjust this waterfall of brownness
Coming out the vent pipe,because all those tanks have a
vent pipe and it filled the tankand the toilet was shut so it
sealed.
It didn't come up to the toilet, thank.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
God.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
And it just found the path of least resistance.
So it took, the valve went up,and so what it did, was it
created like?
Speaker 1 (30:43):
a waterfall a you know the hot chocolate fountain
thing, it was like that and itjust kind of was chunky
chocolate.
Yeah, yeah, wow, yeah, it'sgross.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
It was like that and it just kind of covered, only it
was chunky chocolate.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
Yeah, yeah, wow, yeah , that's gross.
It was really nasty.
That would be terrible.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
So yeah, don't do that.
That's what I learned.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
Don't do that.
Don't do that.
That's probably not something,yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
Putting a pressure regulator on the water.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
Yeah, that's a good point.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
Otherwise, um, you know, a lot of it comes around
the plumbing piece when you'recamping you know, emptying the
black before you empty the grayand all that fun stuff yeah, and
so you know there's just I.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
I guess you know I just wanted to kind of talk
about it.
We have a lot of friends whocamp, right, and you know, we
have a lot of friends who don'tand those who don't go.
Oh, that would be fun.
Oh, so much fun.
It's so much fun.
It's a lot of stress, it is andit's a lot of work.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
I mean, it can be real fun to see some great
places and you know things likethat.
But if you don't, if you aren'tmeticulous in the preparation
and things like that of it,you're screwed.
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
And so you know if you're in a tent now you have to
buy ice, you have to keep yourstuff cold.
You know you have to try to dothat, but it is.
I don't care what anybody says.
It's a lot of work, it is.
I don't care what you're in.
So just think about that, ifyou know.
You say I want to go out andbuy an RV.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
Well, my whole plan is I mean not necessarily an rv,
like it may be an old, oldwinnebago, but you know I'm
gonna slap some solar panels onthat thing and just leave.
And you know, as soon as I canafford to pay off my house and
just go, yeah just go, I get it.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
I think there's something appealing about the
minimalist, you know like yeah,yeah, the dry camping, I like
that um, you know, getting likea small teardrop or something
like that.
I think the problem with owningwhat we own is we're limited.
We can't just pull into anyplace.
It's got to be a certain sizeand so that kind of limits where
(32:43):
we can go, and if you're smallyou pretty much can go almost
anywhere.
I spent many years not payingfor camping.
just go to the national forestout in colorado yeah, you don't
pay you know you just you find aplace, you trail and you just
go park alongside or whatever.
But it's not so easy.
Now the big units.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
Yeah, and the big units.
You have to remembersomething's always breaking yeah
, I don't care if it's brand new.
It's just one more thing tohave to fix and they're very
costly.
And you know, camping equipmentor RV equipment is not cheap.
Right, it's very expensive.
So I think that's probably allwe've got to talk about today.
(33:27):
We've talked about thecampsites, we've talked about
the different types of camping,yeah, and the different groups.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Yeah, absolutely so.
Yeah, I think that thatactually is all the insanity
that we have for today.
We do appreciate you joining ushere at the rabbit hole studio.
Be sure to follow us, becausewe look forward to spending time
with you each and every week.
Please like us, and if you havepositive feedback or if there's
a topic you would like us totalk about, or if you have
(33:55):
constructive criticism, drop usa short email at
boomerandjenexer at gmailcom.
If you have hate mail, we'renot interested.
It can go flying in the blacktank with the camper for all.
I care.
So until next week.
I'm Bobbi Joy and I'm Jane Bird, and you're stuck with us Peace
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