February 11, 2025 • 28 mins
Picture this: a shared love for thrifting that bridges generations, bringing together mother-daughter duo Jane and Bobbi, and even Bobbi's children. This episode promises a heartwarming exploration into how thrifting has intertwined with their family traditions, offering not only budget-friendly fashion finds but also cherished memories. With a touch of humor and insight, we tackle the debate on thrifted gifts and how they are perceived across different generations. You'll learn how attitudes towards thriftiness have evolved and why some folks wear their thrifted finds with a badge of pride.
On a more intriguing note, we venture into the world of thrift store reselling, a practice that has sparked its own share of controversy. Jane and Bobbi share personal tales of flipping thrift finds for profit, providing a firsthand look at the ethics and economy of this booming trend. Is it a fair game or a greedy grab? Join us for an episode that celebrates the charm and resourcefulness of thrifting, while posing thought-provoking questions about its impact on culture and community.
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Welcome everyone to today's show.
A boomer and a Gen Xer walkinto a bar, coming to you today
not from the rabbit hole studio,but from Rabbit Run, since we
are still on the road.
You, as our listener, willexperience some wit and wisdom,
some smart assery and a motherand daughter questioning.
Are we even related?
(00:28):
My name is Jane Burt, myco-host is my daughter, bobbi,
and for the next several minuteswe are here to talk about.
Guess what we're going to talkabout today, bobbi?
Something I think that you loveto do writing.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
No, we won't be riding motorcycles.
No, what is it?
Speaker 1 (00:46):
it's going to be thrifting and thrifting
thrifting, something I love todo too, but you know what?
There's been a lot ofcontroversy about thrifting and
I want to talk about this, andalso I want to touch about on
about dumpster diving.
So yeah, yeah, so uh, thereason I'm bringing up thrifting
(01:07):
is, first of all, I love tothrift.
You do too, right, bobby?
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Yeah, I mean raising four kids.
You can't unless you're amillionaire.
You can't raise four kidswithout thrifting, at least at
some point.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
So this is funny, this is how much thrifting Bobby
does, and I know that she doesit.
Um, her daughter came to myhouse and spent the night and,
uh, sometimes I buy the kidsschool clothes, right, I take
them out and I shop and we buyschool clothes and it just
depends on who's around and whoneeds it and whatever else.
It's not like I get them alltogether and go come on, we're
(01:43):
all going to school shopping andanyway.
So Bobby's daughter was at myhouse and I said hey, listen,
let's go get you some clothesfor school.
And she goes, okay, and shegoes where do you want to go?
And at that time I said let'sjust go to the mall and let's
look around.
And God love her, she was let mesee, this would have been Lacey
(02:04):
, and she was probably 15, maybe16 at the time.
And she said Grandma, if we goto the thrift store, I can get a
lot more stuff for the money.
And I was just shocked and Isaid, yeah, you bet you can.
(02:25):
And I said I just wanted you tohave, you know, something new,
some brand new clothes.
And she goes I don't care aboutthat, she goes.
You know, I can.
Just, it just doesn't cost asmuch and I can get just as nice
stuff.
Just because it's been wornbefore is no big deal.
And I thought I can hearBobby's mouth talking to Lacey
and now Lacey passing this on tome.
(02:47):
So you've obviously had thoseconversations with the kids,
right.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Absolutely.
I mean, I had, you know, mythree older ones.
They were all under five yearsold at the same time.
So going through clothes was, Imean, it was an enormous task,
you know, and I have four kidstotal and by the time my
youngest was, you know, needingclothes.
(03:15):
The other ones were already sooutgrown of them.
We had gotten rid of them wherethey had been destroyed.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Yeah, Cause you had quite a gap between kids too.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Yeah, yeah.
And so I mean, and I just Ilove thrifting, I mean you can
find, you know you go to therich neighborhoods you can find
brand new clothes with the tagsstill on them that you know
people just didn't even wear.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Right, and you know, joey, your your middle daughter.
Um, she also did the same thing.
I think it was her birthday,and I said, let's, you know, do
you need any clothes or anything?
And she goes.
No, not really, she goes.
I could probably use a couplepairs of jeans, and I go.
Where do you want to go?
And she goes is there a thriftstore around?
And I was.
You know, I was just shockedbecause you know the two oldest
(04:01):
grandboys, you know I spent $100and $150 for a pair of jeans
for them.
And here's your daughter sayinghey, you know, I'll go to the
(04:28):
thrift if they have a, you know,some type of designer tag on
them.
So good for you, yeah, but Iwill say.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
I will say, though, you know, when it comes to
school clothes, I do try to getthem one.
You know at least one or twobrand new outfits, and they
usually have brand new shoes,Right.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Right and they get them throughout the year.
I don't want anybody to thinkthat you know your kids are
going without shoes or clothesor anything like that.
I mean, these kids get, getbrand new stuff throughout the
year.
It's not like they don't, butit was just.
The conversations were veryheartwarming.
I will say that, and I'velearned through thrifting that,
yeah, I've gone to some of themore ritzy neighborhoods.
(05:05):
You know to go to the Goodwillthere or go to the thrift shops,
because I've always said youknow if you're poor you have
garage sales, if you're rich,you give your clothes and stuff
away, and so you know they givethem to thrift shops or they
give them to the Goodwill or thethe salvation army or whoever
it is.
And, uh, it's kind of nice tosee.
(05:28):
But there's been a lot ofcontroversy around thrifting and
what do you think it is, bobby,that has been so controversial?
Speaker 2 (05:35):
well, I know that it might be something to do with
what my daughter, joey, didbring up, because, um, we were
talking about thrifting not toolong ago.
And she goes oh, you rememberthat gift that I got, yeah, yeah
, when I went to the thriftstore?
She goes that sign that I gother for her kitchen.
That's, you know, it was aboutdrinking wide, but wine better
(05:55):
than you cook food, or right,you know something like that.
And I said, yeah, she still hasthat in her kitchen.
She goes yeah, I got that at athrift store and got, gave it to
her and yeah, and I was excitedfor it.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
I mean, it wasn't like I looked at it and frowned
and so you kind of just touchedon what some of the controversy
is.
So there was a article or therewas a news thing or a reel or
something, where adaughter-in-law bought her
mother-in-law uh, something froma thrift store for her birthday
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and gave it to her, and themother-in-law said we'll be sure
to include the receipt, likeshe's gonna take it back.
And you know, thedaughter-in-law was like, well,
you know what?
Do I tell her that it wasthrifted?
I don't really know.
And I thought, wow, first andforemost, you know, my, my whole
(06:54):
thought has always been ifyou're going to give somebody
something, it's out of thekindness of your heart, it isn't
because you feel obligated togive it to them, because if
that's the case, stop, just stop.
I don't.
When I buy stuff for people, Ifor years I have not.
Now, for years and years I havenot bought anything that I have
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felt obligated to buy somebodysomething for.
You know, it's always been oh,I'll buy this out of the
kindness of my heart.
And I feel like they do too.
Um, I feel like, you know, they, uh, they pick things out for
me.
Now, if you're running to thestore and going oh my gosh, it's
(07:39):
Bobby's birthday tomorrow and Idon't know what to get her,
I'll just get this and I throwit in the cart.
Well, leave it at the storefolks, because right, if that's
all the thought that you putinto it.
But this girl, I guess you know, I don't really know what she
oh, I do know what she bought.
She bought her a pair of shoesand you know if, if they were
like new or or hardly used um,who cares?
(08:03):
But I, I don't know would youhave told somebody that you had
thrifted the gift before yougave it to them, or would you
just give it to them, I guess?
Speaker 2 (08:13):
it would depend on my audience.
Okay, so if, if I knew it wasgoing to be well received, that
it did come from a thrift store,I absolutely would tell them
that.
You know, hey, I picked this upat so-and-so thrift store.
You know, knowing that maybethey want to go to that thrift
store because this is in suchgreat condition, I wonder what
(08:34):
else they have, right?
Speaker 1 (08:36):
So let's say that it is not that situation, right?
So let's say that it is notthat situation.
Let's say that you know, wouldfirst of all, would you buy
something from a thrift storethat you felt?
You know, I don't really knowthem that well, but you know I'm
going to buy them something andnow it's their birthday.
I got invited to this birthdayparty and I'm going to go, but I
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don't really know how theywould react.
Party and I'm going to go, butI don't really know how they
would react?
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Would you say, hey, I bought this from a thrift store
.
I don't know that I would evenget them something from a thrift
store.
And here's why, you know, if Iget a gift from a thrift store
for somebody, usually it'ssomething that's like vintage,
or you know something that youcan't get somewhere else, like
an original you know record thatthey would love.
(09:25):
I really would have to knowthat person and know their
tastes in order to know what toget them.
You know, if I didn't know themthat well, I would probably get
them maybe a card and like agift card to Starbucks or
something you know, justsomething real generic.
Okay, if I knew them well andknew that it would not be
(09:45):
received well, that it was froma thrift store, I wouldn't tell
them.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
You would do it, but you wouldn't tell them.
Yeah, you would buy it from thethrift store, but you wouldn't
tell them.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Okay, so I have a little bit of different take on
that.
I guess I am pretty proud tothrift and your grandma, my
mother, um, and several peopleback in that era that they grew
up in saved a lot of stuff.
And in our household when I wasgrowing up, we had jars, we had
, you know, butter dishes.
I mean that that's how we, thatwas our Tupperware.
(10:23):
it was you know a country crock,uh, container or something like
that.
And so my parents grew up in atime period where you had to
save everything that youpossibly could and reuse it, and
I think all of those peoplewere ahead of their time.
Now I made fun of them.
I mean, we did, we as kids madefun of them.
(10:44):
It was like, oh my gosh, youknow they're saving this crap
and why are they saving all thisstuff?
And now I look back and I thinkthey were ahead of their time.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Well, and a lot of the stuff now is made to be
disposable, whether it be afterone use or 10 uses or a year.
It's actually made to be moredisposable where back then I
mean you're talking like youknow these thick glass bowls
that are beautifully made andthese you know.
Even Tupperware back then ismade different and has survived
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all the way you know to todayand is very coveted.
You know if you can findTupperware from you know back in
the early years.
So I think that a lot of it wasbuilt differently, even like if
you look at silverware, I stillhave silverware pieces from my
grandmother on my father's sidethat I can't find silverware
(11:42):
today that to buy that evencompares to it yeah, I think
things were probably made better.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
You know, as, as corporations uh, choose to make
more of a profit, of course theystart cutting the materials and
they start cutting the qualityof what we're receiving, and
that's anything from a pair oftennis shoes to a bag of potato
chips.
I mean, they're doing theirbest to cut costs and just make
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a profit, and that's their mainobjective.
But I would say that I am proudof thrifting now and I'm happy
to do it Now.
Now I buy a lot of stuff fromthe thrift store.
Do I walk around and telleverybody I got this from a
thrift store?
I do not.
If somebody says, hey, that's abeautiful bowl that's in your,
(12:32):
you know, in your cupboard, inthe, in the living room, on the,
on the bookcase, and it's justbeautiful, um, um, I wouldn't
say, oh, thanks, I got that for50 cents at a thrift store.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
You wouldn't tell him that.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
No, I mean I may, it just depends on how I felt that
day.
But I mean I would just saythank you, I'd go yeah, isn't
that cool.
Because that's why I pick it upis because I think it's cool,
and so I probably wouldn't.
Now don't get me wrong if itwas you and you said, hey, mom,
that is a really cool bowl inthere, I go yeah, I got it for
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50 cents, you know.
Then it's a different story.
But if it's somebody elsewalking through the house and
says, hey, that's cool, Iprobably wouldn't say anything.
I just take the compliment andgo.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
I guess I'm different there because, like you and I,
you know we have our thriftingstuff.
But like if somebody in acheckout line at Walmart looks
at me and says, wow, I reallylove those pants, I'd be like $2
at the thrift store.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
See, no, I wouldn't do that.
I would just look at it and gothank you.
You know, because of ifsomebody thinks that it looks
really good on you and it lookstrendy and expensive, I'm good
with that.
I don't need to tell you itcost me two dollars.
I'm not.
I'm not going to do that.
I'm going to let you think that.
You know, hey, I'm hot stuffright here in this outfit.
But yeah, I will say this Iwould never buy something from a
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thrift store for a wedding gift.
I would not do that.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Unless it was like you really knew the couple and
they were really into vintagethings.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Yeah, that's a different story, but I mean, in
general, I would not.
If it's somebody's birthday, Iprobably wouldn't, unless it was
yours or somebody that I knewreally, really well.
And let's say that there was a.
You know you were into vinylalbums and you said and I found
one that I knew you would likeJust presenting it to you.
(14:38):
You would obviously know thatit was vintage and I know it
would really make you happy.
But I think that's thinkingthrough.
You know, would this reallymake them happy?
Is this something that they'retruly interested in?
And if that's the case, I'mhappy to say I got this at a
thrift store and I saw it and Iknow you collect these and I was
(14:59):
so excited and I hope you aretoo then I would um, I otherwise
, you know.
I mean, I don't see anythingwrong with finding a nice
charcuterie board at a, at athrift store, cleaning it, what,
what do you think they are?
Charcuterie board?
You call them charcuterie,charcuterie board, you call them
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charcuterie, charcuterie boardand cleaning it up as long as
it's in good shape and thenbuying you know, some nice
things to put with it.
I don't have any problem withthat.
I would do that and I wouldthink it would be cool if
somebody thought of me to do itthat way too, because I love
doing charcuterie boards, right?
So I would love it if somebodythought you know, gosh, she
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really likes this.
So I I think that there's a.
You know, there's probably someconditions.
Now let me ask you this, thoughthere's a.
The controversy that's comingup now is that people are buying
these things from the thriftstores and they're, and they're,
they're flipping them forprofit.
Oh yeah, you know, they'refinding things that were given
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away.
They're finding name brandthings and they're flipping them
on eBay or wherever.
They're reselling up thread orwhatever it is, thread up,
whatever it is.
And one of the things that youknow, we've talked about
goodwill before, and peoplethink that goodwill gives money
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away to people.
They don't.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Goodwill does not do that, and they're also one of
the most expensive thrift stores.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
They are They've kind of caught on to what's going on
and they're going to takeadvantage of it.
But Goodwill, what they do forthe community is they do offer
to train people to make themproductive citizens and help
them get hired for jobs andthings like that, but they don't
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give their money to anybody.
Let's not act like you'retaking your stuff in there and,
oh, you're really helpingsomebody because, let's face it,
there's always a help wanted.
Sign on the goodwill store andthey'll take whoever they can
get.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
So, um so for for going in and like finding these
things and flipping them, I Ican't say that I'm against it
because I've done it.
I'm I'm not against it.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
I'm not against it at all, but that's some of the
controversy, you know.
My whole thing is is ifsomebody else doesn't want it
and you want it and you'rewilling to pay that price, who
cares exactly?
I mean, if you put ten dollarson it and somebody else gets,
you know, a hundred dollars outof it, who cares?
Speaker 2 (17:43):
well, you know that store didn't get it.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Yeah, well, that store didn't get that.
You know.
If you sold it for a hundred,you know they only got ten
dollars for it.
Who cares?
They could have put a hundreddollars on it, they could have
taken the time and, you know,posted it on all of these
different sites.
I don't care that somebodymakes a profit over that stuff
and as a matter of fact, I'vebeen.
We I bought a, uh, huge vase atthe Goodwill in Urbandale Iowa
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and I bought it for, I want tosay, $12.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
And it was just huge and I thought wow, the one
that's in your wall in yourentryway or back entryway, or
something that you were showingus.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
that one, yes, the one that's with the checkers.
I bought it for like $12.
And I'm thinking we're going touse that in the Georgia house,
okay, so I'm going to transportthat thing all over hell and
back and so I'm carrying thatthing with us for months and we
get down here and I startlooking on eBay and stuff.
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That thing sold for like $150.
And I thought, well, that's aheck of a deal.
You know, I bought it for us.
Now if I sell it at a garbagesale for, you know, $15 and
somebody makes a thousanddollars off of it, I don't care.
I had an opportunity to sell itfor that and I didn't.
And so I know a lot of peopleare angry of that.
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And the other thing is becausethe resale business for
thrifting went from like 28billion dollars is that hard to
believe?
28 billion dollars in thrifting?
Uh, yeah, I believe it in thepast five years up to about 62
billion.
And the reason for that isbecause, like, the goodwills are
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catching on and saying, oh,this is name brand, it's no
longer going to be a dollarfifty in our store.
We're going to charge 22 for itinstead.
So they've kind of caught onand I know people are getting
mad and they're saying, oh,they're raising their prices.
Now.
One of the things that I couldsee being problematic with that
(19:53):
is a lot of people who don'thave money go to the goodwill
and look for clothes right a lotof the people who just flat out
don't have it, um, are lookingfor places to buy the things
that they absolutely need, andso, you know, raising the prices
in those types of stores, Ithink, can be a little bit
(20:13):
greedy, I guess I would say Idon't know yeah, I mean I see
that and I also see like wherethey'll get like a donation of
things from like dollar generaland they'll have the original
dollar general price tags onthem and their goodwill's asking
like a dollar more than theoriginal price tag.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Yeah, and I'm just like wait a second yeah, that's,
just that's not how this worksyeah, that's just wrong.
I think that's what I mean if I,if I go in, like let's say, I
go in and I find a pair of likemiss me jeans, you know, in a
goodwill, that's in amazingshape.
You know the zipper works,there's no stains or anything on
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them.
If they want to sell them for25, that's still a hell of a
deal from what you're buying fornew, or even, you know, on
poshmark or something fromanother reseller right so you
know, I mean, if they're notgonna, so what?
they don't put five dollars onthem?
I, I mean, I get that.
You know people want to be ableto afford those name brands,
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but at the same time I guess I'mfor it Because you know the
sustainability and things likethat.
We need to start looking intothat more, because these clothes
now are made to be thrown awayand we just it's ridiculous yeah
, yeah, no, I I agree with youthere.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
So let me get into the next topic then that's kind
of associated with this or kindof um goes along with.
On in the same line is dumpsterdiving.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
So I love it.
I can't tell you how many timesI've been a trash panda at 3 am
with a headlamp and gloves, onbehind the tractor supply
because they're remodeling theirshowroom and they're throwing
out full bags of animal food andbrand new knives and things
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like that.
Boy, I'll be up in it.
I don't even care.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
I haven't done any dumpster diving in a long time.
Well, I take that back when wewere looking for boxes to move.
Um, I was getting intodumpsters to get the boxes and
it was like what's that, what'sthat?
And I did take some things outof the dumpster hey listen, it's
not beneath me.
And for these, these people, tosay you know, that's our
private garbage and you need tostay out of it.
(22:39):
You can't be dumpster diving.
You threw it away.
If somebody else can use it,why wouldn't you let somebody
else use it Now?
You did what the corporationtold you to do you threw it away
so they can have their taxwrite off, because that's
exactly what they do is writethat off.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Tax write-off, because that's exactly what they
do is write that off.
Yeah, and the thing that makesme the maddest is when you have
these dumpsters full of this.
You know these items and theypurposefully destroy them so
that people who do dumpster divecan't use them.
That just irritates the hellout of me, because it's like you
don't got to be like that youknow right, like they throw
paint on them or something anddonate it up.
(23:18):
Yeah, absolutely, and instead,they rip them apart and throw
them in the dumpster,unnecessarily right and and
again.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
You know why they throw it in the dumpsters?
Because they get a write-off.
Okay, they get that as a lossfor their corporation.
But once it goes into thedumpster, you know who cares.
Who cares as long as somebodyelse can use it.
And why wouldn't we want torecycle that?
Why wouldn't we want to upcycleand let somebody else, you know
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, get it?
And I don't care if somebody ismaking a profit off of it.
First come, first serve.
I don't even care, because Iremember years ago, pier 1
Imports.
I don't even know, because Iremember years ago, um, pier one
imports.
I don't even know if they evenhave those stores anymore, but I
remember going dumpster divingin that uh dumpster one time and
there was a side chair like youwould have in your bedroom and
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it was super nice and it wasbrand new tags, everything's on
it, and looked at it and all itwas.
It just had a little dirt markon one of the arms and I and it
was like 300 and some dollarsand I pulled it out of there,
took it home, cleaned it up.
It was great, you know.
So I'm not against that either.
(24:28):
Now would I dumpster dive andgive those away as gifts?
No, no, I probably wouldn't dothat.
But yeah, thrifting you know I'mpretty proud of thrifting
sometimes and again, I thinkyou're absolutely right.
I think it really depends onwho it is and how close you are
to them.
(24:49):
But you know, when I give yousomething, it is coming out of
the kindness of my heart.
I'm not doing it because I feelthat I have to, because I don't
feel that way anymore.
I don't buy you somethingbecause I feel like I have to.
I buy you something because Ithink that you will like it or I
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think that it's something thatyou absolutely need.
And if I didn't feel that way,I wouldn't buy you anything at
all.
And I'm hopeful that peopledon't feel that way.
I wouldn't buy you anything atall, and I'm hopeful that people
don't feel that pressure to buyother people's stuff when they
absolutely don't have to.
It's out of the kindness ofyour heart and that's it.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Yeah, so yeah, I agree, I agree, and yeah, hey,
if, if anybody out there, youknow, has a cool thrift store,
finds that, uh, theirmother--law didn't want, you can
just send them in to me.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
We would take them.
That's right and we would begrateful.
Yeah, we would be very, verygrateful for that.
So, yeah, so we arepro-thrifting both of us.
I don't know that we agreed onwho gets to get a thrifted gift
or not, and that's okay.
We are both pro dumpster divers.
(26:01):
Absolutely, absolutely.
We are both pro recyclers.
I love recycling it.
I mean, it's good for theplanet, it's good for people,
and gosh, why wouldn't you do it?
And, um, you know, if, if, ifyou want to get rid of your junk
, get rid of your junk.
If you want to sell it, sell it.
(26:22):
That's cool too.
But you know, just let somebodyelse have the opportunity to
use it.
And I've put a lot of stuff outon the curb and with a sign
that says free, and I will tellyou that stuff goes and I don't
care what they're doing with it,I don't care if they sell it I
don't care what they do with it,as long as it's out of my
garage, so exactly.
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Well, what do you think, bobby?
Speaker 2 (26:45):
well, I think that's all the trash talk that, uh,
we're gonna be having today, andthis truly was trash talk it
was, but you know we really doappreciate everybody joining us
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Speaker 1 (27:13):
Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
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retrieve it.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
We're not diving for any of that stuff.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Yep, so until next time.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
I'm Bobby Joy and I'm Jane Burt and you're stuck with
us.
We're going to get that rightsometime on the rabbit run,
aren't we?
Maybe one time we'll actuallysync up Peace out Later.
Welcome everyone to today's show.
A boomer and a Gen Xer walkinto a bar, coming to you today
not from the rabbit hole studio,but from Rabbit Run, since we
are still on the road.
You, as our listener, willexperience some wit and wisdom,
some smart assery and a motherand daughter questioning.
Are we even related?
(00:28):
My name is Jane Burt, myco-host is my daughter, bobbi,
and for the next several minuteswe are here to talk about.
Guess what we're going to talkabout today, bobbi?
Something I think that you loveto do writing.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
No, we won't be riding motorcycles.
No, what is it?
Speaker 1 (00:46):
it's going to be thrifting and thrifting
thrifting, something I love todo too, but you know what?
There's been a lot ofcontroversy about thrifting and
I want to talk about this, andalso I want to touch about on
about dumpster diving.
So yeah, yeah, so uh, thereason I'm bringing up thrifting
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is, first of all, I love tothrift.
You do too, right, bobby?
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Yeah, I mean raising four kids.
You can't unless you're amillionaire.
You can't raise four kidswithout thrifting, at least at
some point.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
So this is funny, this is how much thrifting Bobby
does, and I know that she doesit.
Um, her daughter came to myhouse and spent the night and,
uh, sometimes I buy the kidsschool clothes, right, I take
them out and I shop and we buyschool clothes and it just
depends on who's around and whoneeds it and whatever else.
It's not like I get them alltogether and go come on, we're
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all going to school shopping andanyway.
So Bobby's daughter was at myhouse and I said hey, listen,
let's go get you some clothesfor school.
And she goes, okay, and shegoes where do you want to go?
And at that time I said let'sjust go to the mall and let's
look around.
And God love her, she was let mesee, this would have been Lacey
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, and she was probably 15, maybe16 at the time.
And she said Grandma, if we goto the thrift store, I can get a
lot more stuff for the money.
And I was just shocked and Isaid, yeah, you bet you can.
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And I said I just wanted you tohave, you know, something new,
some brand new clothes.
And she goes I don't care aboutthat, she goes.
You know, I can.
Just, it just doesn't cost asmuch and I can get just as nice
stuff.
Just because it's been wornbefore is no big deal.
And I thought I can hearBobby's mouth talking to Lacey
and now Lacey passing this on tome.
(02:47):
So you've obviously had thoseconversations with the kids,
right.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Absolutely.
I mean, I had, you know, mythree older ones.
They were all under five yearsold at the same time.
So going through clothes was, Imean, it was an enormous task,
you know, and I have four kidstotal and by the time my
youngest was, you know, needingclothes.
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The other ones were already sooutgrown of them.
We had gotten rid of them wherethey had been destroyed.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Yeah, Cause you had quite a gap between kids too.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Yeah, yeah.
And so I mean, and I just Ilove thrifting, I mean you can
find, you know you go to therich neighborhoods you can find
brand new clothes with the tagsstill on them that you know
people just didn't even wear.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Right, and you know, joey, your your middle daughter.
Um, she also did the same thing.
I think it was her birthday,and I said, let's, you know, do
you need any clothes or anything?
And she goes.
No, not really, she goes.
I could probably use a couplepairs of jeans, and I go.
Where do you want to go?
And she goes is there a thriftstore around?
And I was.
You know, I was just shockedbecause you know the two oldest
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grandboys, you know I spent $100and $150 for a pair of jeans
for them.
And here's your daughter sayinghey, you know, I'll go to the
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thrift if they have a, you know,some type of designer tag on
them.
So good for you, yeah, but Iwill say.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
I will say, though, you know, when it comes to
school clothes, I do try to getthem one.
You know at least one or twobrand new outfits, and they
usually have brand new shoes,Right.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Right and they get them throughout the year.
I don't want anybody to thinkthat you know your kids are
going without shoes or clothesor anything like that.
I mean, these kids get, getbrand new stuff throughout the
year.
It's not like they don't, butit was just.
The conversations were veryheartwarming.
I will say that, and I'velearned through thrifting that,
yeah, I've gone to some of themore ritzy neighborhoods.
(05:05):
You know to go to the Goodwillthere or go to the thrift shops,
because I've always said youknow if you're poor you have
garage sales, if you're rich,you give your clothes and stuff
away, and so you know they givethem to thrift shops or they
give them to the Goodwill or thethe salvation army or whoever
it is.
And, uh, it's kind of nice tosee.
(05:28):
But there's been a lot ofcontroversy around thrifting and
what do you think it is, bobby,that has been so controversial?
Speaker 2 (05:35):
well, I know that it might be something to do with
what my daughter, joey, didbring up, because, um, we were
talking about thrifting not toolong ago.
And she goes oh, you rememberthat gift that I got, yeah, yeah
, when I went to the thriftstore?
She goes that sign that I gother for her kitchen.
That's, you know, it was aboutdrinking wide, but wine better
(05:55):
than you cook food, or right,you know something like that.
And I said, yeah, she still hasthat in her kitchen.
She goes yeah, I got that at athrift store and got, gave it to
her and yeah, and I was excitedfor it.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
I mean, it wasn't like I looked at it and frowned
and so you kind of just touchedon what some of the controversy
is.
So there was a article or therewas a news thing or a reel or
something, where adaughter-in-law bought her
mother-in-law uh, something froma thrift store for her birthday
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and gave it to her, and themother-in-law said we'll be sure
to include the receipt, likeshe's gonna take it back.
And you know, thedaughter-in-law was like, well,
you know what?
Do I tell her that it wasthrifted?
I don't really know.
And I thought, wow, first andforemost, you know, my, my whole
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thought has always been ifyou're going to give somebody
something, it's out of thekindness of your heart, it isn't
because you feel obligated togive it to them, because if
that's the case, stop, just stop.
I don't.
When I buy stuff for people, Ifor years I have not.
Now, for years and years I havenot bought anything that I have
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felt obligated to buy somebodysomething for.
You know, it's always been oh,I'll buy this out of the
kindness of my heart.
And I feel like they do too.
Um, I feel like, you know, they, uh, they pick things out for
me.
Now, if you're running to thestore and going oh my gosh, it's
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Bobby's birthday tomorrow and Idon't know what to get her,
I'll just get this and I throwit in the cart.
Well, leave it at the storefolks, because right, if that's
all the thought that you putinto it.
But this girl, I guess you know, I don't really know what she
oh, I do know what she bought.
She bought her a pair of shoesand you know if, if they were
like new or or hardly used um,who cares?
(08:03):
But I, I don't know would youhave told somebody that you had
thrifted the gift before yougave it to them, or would you
just give it to them, I guess?
Speaker 2 (08:13):
it would depend on my audience.
Okay, so if, if I knew it wasgoing to be well received, that
it did come from a thrift store,I absolutely would tell them
that.
You know, hey, I picked this upat so-and-so thrift store.
You know, knowing that maybethey want to go to that thrift
store because this is in suchgreat condition, I wonder what
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else they have, right?
Speaker 1 (08:36):
So let's say that it is not that situation, right?
So let's say that it is notthat situation.
Let's say that you know, wouldfirst of all, would you buy
something from a thrift storethat you felt?
You know, I don't really knowthem that well, but you know I'm
going to buy them something andnow it's their birthday.
I got invited to this birthdayparty and I'm going to go, but I
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don't really know how theywould react.
Party and I'm going to go, butI don't really know how they
would react?
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Would you say, hey, I bought this from a thrift store
.
I don't know that I would evenget them something from a thrift
store.
And here's why, you know, if Iget a gift from a thrift store
for somebody, usually it'ssomething that's like vintage,
or you know something that youcan't get somewhere else, like
an original you know record thatthey would love.
(09:25):
I really would have to knowthat person and know their
tastes in order to know what toget them.
You know, if I didn't know themthat well, I would probably get
them maybe a card and like agift card to Starbucks or
something you know, justsomething real generic.
Okay, if I knew them well andknew that it would not be
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received well, that it was froma thrift store, I wouldn't tell
them.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
You would do it, but you wouldn't tell them.
Yeah, you would buy it from thethrift store, but you wouldn't
tell them.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Okay, so I have a little bit of different take on
that.
I guess I am pretty proud tothrift and your grandma, my
mother, um, and several peopleback in that era that they grew
up in saved a lot of stuff.
And in our household when I wasgrowing up, we had jars, we had
, you know, butter dishes.
I mean that that's how we, thatwas our Tupperware.
(10:23):
it was you know a country crock,uh, container or something like
that.
And so my parents grew up in atime period where you had to
save everything that youpossibly could and reuse it, and
I think all of those peoplewere ahead of their time.
Now I made fun of them.
I mean, we did, we as kids madefun of them.
(10:44):
It was like, oh my gosh, youknow they're saving this crap
and why are they saving all thisstuff?
And now I look back and I thinkthey were ahead of their time.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Well, and a lot of the stuff now is made to be
disposable, whether it be afterone use or 10 uses or a year.
It's actually made to be moredisposable where back then I
mean you're talking like youknow these thick glass bowls
that are beautifully made andthese you know.
Even Tupperware back then ismade different and has survived
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all the way you know to todayand is very coveted.
You know if you can findTupperware from you know back in
the early years.
So I think that a lot of it wasbuilt differently, even like if
you look at silverware, I stillhave silverware pieces from my
grandmother on my father's sidethat I can't find silverware
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today that to buy that evencompares to it yeah, I think
things were probably made better.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
You know, as, as corporations uh, choose to make
more of a profit, of course theystart cutting the materials and
they start cutting the qualityof what we're receiving, and
that's anything from a pair oftennis shoes to a bag of potato
chips.
I mean, they're doing theirbest to cut costs and just make
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a profit, and that's their mainobjective.
But I would say that I am proudof thrifting now and I'm happy
to do it Now.
Now I buy a lot of stuff fromthe thrift store.
Do I walk around and telleverybody I got this from a
thrift store?
I do not.
If somebody says, hey, that's abeautiful bowl that's in your,
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you know, in your cupboard, inthe, in the living room, on the,
on the bookcase, and it's justbeautiful, um, um, I wouldn't
say, oh, thanks, I got that for50 cents at a thrift store.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
You wouldn't tell him that.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
No, I mean I may, it just depends on how I felt that
day.
But I mean I would just saythank you, I'd go yeah, isn't
that cool.
Because that's why I pick it upis because I think it's cool,
and so I probably wouldn't.
Now don't get me wrong if itwas you and you said, hey, mom,
that is a really cool bowl inthere, I go yeah, I got it for
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50 cents, you know.
Then it's a different story.
But if it's somebody elsewalking through the house and
says, hey, that's cool, Iprobably wouldn't say anything.
I just take the compliment andgo.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
I guess I'm different there because, like you and I,
you know we have our thriftingstuff.
But like if somebody in acheckout line at Walmart looks
at me and says, wow, I reallylove those pants, I'd be like $2
at the thrift store.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
See, no, I wouldn't do that.
I would just look at it and gothank you.
You know, because of ifsomebody thinks that it looks
really good on you and it lookstrendy and expensive, I'm good
with that.
I don't need to tell you itcost me two dollars.
I'm not.
I'm not going to do that.
I'm going to let you think that.
You know, hey, I'm hot stuffright here in this outfit.
But yeah, I will say this Iwould never buy something from a
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thrift store for a wedding gift.
I would not do that.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Unless it was like you really knew the couple and
they were really into vintagethings.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Yeah, that's a different story, but I mean, in
general, I would not.
If it's somebody's birthday, Iprobably wouldn't, unless it was
yours or somebody that I knewreally, really well.
And let's say that there was a.
You know you were into vinylalbums and you said and I found
one that I knew you would likeJust presenting it to you.
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You would obviously know thatit was vintage and I know it
would really make you happy.
But I think that's thinkingthrough.
You know, would this reallymake them happy?
Is this something that they'retruly interested in?
And if that's the case, I'mhappy to say I got this at a
thrift store and I saw it and Iknow you collect these and I was
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so excited and I hope you aretoo then I would um, I otherwise
, you know.
I mean, I don't see anythingwrong with finding a nice
charcuterie board at a, at athrift store, cleaning it, what,
what do you think they are?
Charcuterie board?
You call them charcuterie,charcuterie board, you call them
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charcuterie, charcuterie boardand cleaning it up as long as
it's in good shape and thenbuying you know, some nice
things to put with it.
I don't have any problem withthat.
I would do that and I wouldthink it would be cool if
somebody thought of me to do itthat way too, because I love
doing charcuterie boards, right?
So I would love it if somebodythought you know, gosh, she
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really likes this.
So I I think that there's a.
You know, there's probably someconditions.
Now let me ask you this, thoughthere's a.
The controversy that's comingup now is that people are buying
these things from the thriftstores and they're, and they're,
they're flipping them forprofit.
Oh yeah, you know, they'refinding things that were given
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away.
They're finding name brandthings and they're flipping them
on eBay or wherever.
They're reselling up thread orwhatever it is, thread up,
whatever it is.
And one of the things that youknow, we've talked about
goodwill before, and peoplethink that goodwill gives money
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away to people.
They don't.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Goodwill does not do that, and they're also one of
the most expensive thrift stores.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
They are They've kind of caught on to what's going on
and they're going to takeadvantage of it.
But Goodwill, what they do forthe community is they do offer
to train people to make themproductive citizens and help
them get hired for jobs andthings like that, but they don't
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give their money to anybody.
Let's not act like you'retaking your stuff in there and,
oh, you're really helpingsomebody because, let's face it,
there's always a help wanted.
Sign on the goodwill store andthey'll take whoever they can
get.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
So, um so for for going in and like finding these
things and flipping them, I Ican't say that I'm against it
because I've done it.
I'm I'm not against it.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
I'm not against it at all, but that's some of the
controversy, you know.
My whole thing is is ifsomebody else doesn't want it
and you want it and you'rewilling to pay that price, who
cares exactly?
I mean, if you put ten dollarson it and somebody else gets,
you know, a hundred dollars outof it, who cares?
Speaker 2 (17:43):
well, you know that store didn't get it.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Yeah, well, that store didn't get that.
You know.
If you sold it for a hundred,you know they only got ten
dollars for it.
Who cares?
They could have put a hundreddollars on it, they could have
taken the time and, you know,posted it on all of these
different sites.
I don't care that somebodymakes a profit over that stuff
and as a matter of fact, I'vebeen.
We I bought a, uh, huge vase atthe Goodwill in Urbandale Iowa
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and I bought it for, I want tosay, $12.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
And it was just huge and I thought wow, the one
that's in your wall in yourentryway or back entryway, or
something that you were showingus.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
that one, yes, the one that's with the checkers.
I bought it for like $12.
And I'm thinking we're going touse that in the Georgia house,
okay, so I'm going to transportthat thing all over hell and
back and so I'm carrying thatthing with us for months and we
get down here and I startlooking on eBay and stuff.
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That thing sold for like $150.
And I thought, well, that's aheck of a deal.
You know, I bought it for us.
Now if I sell it at a garbagesale for, you know, $15 and
somebody makes a thousanddollars off of it, I don't care.
I had an opportunity to sell itfor that and I didn't.
And so I know a lot of peopleare angry of that.
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And the other thing is becausethe resale business for
thrifting went from like 28billion dollars is that hard to
believe?
28 billion dollars in thrifting?
Uh, yeah, I believe it in thepast five years up to about 62
billion.
And the reason for that isbecause, like, the goodwills are
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catching on and saying, oh,this is name brand, it's no
longer going to be a dollarfifty in our store.
We're going to charge 22 for itinstead.
So they've kind of caught onand I know people are getting
mad and they're saying, oh,they're raising their prices.
Now.
One of the things that I couldsee being problematic with that
(19:53):
is a lot of people who don'thave money go to the goodwill
and look for clothes right a lotof the people who just flat out
don't have it, um, are lookingfor places to buy the things
that they absolutely need, andso, you know, raising the prices
in those types of stores, Ithink, can be a little bit
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greedy, I guess I would say Idon't know yeah, I mean I see
that and I also see like wherethey'll get like a donation of
things from like dollar generaland they'll have the original
dollar general price tags onthem and their goodwill's asking
like a dollar more than theoriginal price tag.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Yeah, and I'm just like wait a second yeah, that's,
just that's not how this worksyeah, that's just wrong.
I think that's what I mean if I,if I go in, like let's say, I
go in and I find a pair of likemiss me jeans, you know, in a
goodwill, that's in amazingshape.
You know the zipper works,there's no stains or anything on
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them.
If they want to sell them for25, that's still a hell of a
deal from what you're buying fornew, or even, you know, on
poshmark or something fromanother reseller right so you
know, I mean, if they're notgonna, so what?
they don't put five dollars onthem?
I, I mean, I get that.
You know people want to be ableto afford those name brands,
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but at the same time I guess I'mfor it Because you know the
sustainability and things likethat.
We need to start looking intothat more, because these clothes
now are made to be thrown awayand we just it's ridiculous yeah
, yeah, no, I I agree with youthere.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
So let me get into the next topic then that's kind
of associated with this or kindof um goes along with.
On in the same line is dumpsterdiving.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
So I love it.
I can't tell you how many timesI've been a trash panda at 3 am
with a headlamp and gloves, onbehind the tractor supply
because they're remodeling theirshowroom and they're throwing
out full bags of animal food andbrand new knives and things
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like that.
Boy, I'll be up in it.
I don't even care.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
I haven't done any dumpster diving in a long time.
Well, I take that back when wewere looking for boxes to move.
Um, I was getting intodumpsters to get the boxes and
it was like what's that, what'sthat?
And I did take some things outof the dumpster hey listen, it's
not beneath me.
And for these, these people, tosay you know, that's our
private garbage and you need tostay out of it.
(22:39):
You can't be dumpster diving.
You threw it away.
If somebody else can use it,why wouldn't you let somebody
else use it Now?
You did what the corporationtold you to do you threw it away
so they can have their taxwrite off, because that's
exactly what they do is writethat off.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Tax write-off, because that's exactly what they
do is write that off.
Yeah, and the thing that makesme the maddest is when you have
these dumpsters full of this.
You know these items and theypurposefully destroy them so
that people who do dumpster divecan't use them.
That just irritates the hellout of me, because it's like you
don't got to be like that youknow right, like they throw
paint on them or something anddonate it up.
(23:18):
Yeah, absolutely, and instead,they rip them apart and throw
them in the dumpster,unnecessarily right and and
again.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
You know why they throw it in the dumpsters?
Because they get a write-off.
Okay, they get that as a lossfor their corporation.
But once it goes into thedumpster, you know who cares.
Who cares as long as somebodyelse can use it.
And why wouldn't we want torecycle that?
Why wouldn't we want to upcycleand let somebody else, you know
(23:48):
, get it?
And I don't care if somebody ismaking a profit off of it.
First come, first serve.
I don't even care, because Iremember years ago, pier 1
Imports.
I don't even know, because Iremember years ago, um, pier one
imports.
I don't even know if they evenhave those stores anymore, but I
remember going dumpster divingin that uh dumpster one time and
there was a side chair like youwould have in your bedroom and
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it was super nice and it wasbrand new tags, everything's on
it, and looked at it and all itwas.
It just had a little dirt markon one of the arms and I and it
was like 300 and some dollarsand I pulled it out of there,
took it home, cleaned it up.
It was great, you know.
So I'm not against that either.
(24:28):
Now would I dumpster dive andgive those away as gifts?
No, no, I probably wouldn't dothat.
But yeah, thrifting you know I'mpretty proud of thrifting
sometimes and again, I thinkyou're absolutely right.
I think it really depends onwho it is and how close you are
to them.
(24:49):
But you know, when I give yousomething, it is coming out of
the kindness of my heart.
I'm not doing it because I feelthat I have to, because I don't
feel that way anymore.
I don't buy you somethingbecause I feel like I have to.
I buy you something because Ithink that you will like it or I
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think that it's something thatyou absolutely need.
And if I didn't feel that way,I wouldn't buy you anything at
all.
And I'm hopeful that peopledon't feel that way.
I wouldn't buy you anything atall, and I'm hopeful that people
don't feel that pressure to buyother people's stuff when they
absolutely don't have to.
It's out of the kindness ofyour heart and that's it.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Yeah, so yeah, I agree, I agree, and yeah, hey,
if, if anybody out there, youknow, has a cool thrift store,
finds that, uh, theirmother--law didn't want, you can
just send them in to me.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
We would take them.
That's right and we would begrateful.
Yeah, we would be very, verygrateful for that.
So, yeah, so we arepro-thrifting both of us.
I don't know that we agreed onwho gets to get a thrifted gift
or not, and that's okay.
We are both pro dumpster divers.
(26:01):
Absolutely, absolutely.
We are both pro recyclers.
I love recycling it.
I mean, it's good for theplanet, it's good for people,
and gosh, why wouldn't you do it?
And, um, you know, if, if, ifyou want to get rid of your junk
, get rid of your junk.
If you want to sell it, sell it.
(26:22):
That's cool too.
But you know, just let somebodyelse have the opportunity to
use it.
And I've put a lot of stuff outon the curb and with a sign
that says free, and I will tellyou that stuff goes and I don't
care what they're doing with it,I don't care if they sell it I
don't care what they do with it,as long as it's out of my
garage, so exactly.
(26:42):
Well, what do you think, bobby?
Speaker 2 (26:45):
well, I think that's all the trash talk that, uh,
we're gonna be having today, andthis truly was trash talk it
was, but you know we really doappreciate everybody joining us
here at the Rabbit Run Studios.
We really appreciate if youfollow us, like us, share us
with your friends, you know,head over to your favorite
(27:09):
listening platform and rate usor just follow us, because that
always helps.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
If you do have positive feedback or if there's
a topic you want us to talkabout, we've got our email at
boomerandjenexer at gmailcom.
We also have our Facebook page,which is A Boomer and a Gen Xer
Walk Into a Bar the officialpodcast.
If you have hate mail, well,you can put it in the dumpster
and hopefully, we don't find itlater and we're not going to
(27:36):
retrieve it.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
We're not diving for any of that stuff.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Yep, so until next time.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
I'm Bobby Joy and I'm Jane Burt and you're stuck with
us.
We're going to get that rightsometime on the rabbit run,
aren't we?
Maybe one time we'll actuallysync up Peace out Later.
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