August 26, 2025 • 35 mins
The moral boundaries we draw around music consumption reveal much about our values, and in this thought-provoking episode, we explore the complex question: Can we separate problematic artists from their art? Through passionate mother-daughter debate, we navigate the messy ethical territory of enjoying music made by people whose actions or beliefs we find objectionable.
We challenge the notion that misogyny and problematic content are unique to any single genre, finding troubling examples across rap, country, rock, and even religious music. The discussion takes surprising turns as we revisit songs from earlier decades that now reveal disturbing narratives about power, consent, and predatory behavior that went unquestioned at the time. This evolution in our understanding forces us to reckon with how cultural context shapes our perception of art.
What emerges is a nuanced exploration of personal ethics in the streaming age, where the connection between listening and supporting has become increasingly complex. What musical boundaries have you drawn for yourself, and what do they reveal about your values?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
glory be.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
I haven't even done anything oh shit I just put the
card in so okay, well, if he'syour age, yeah, that's like if
he was older I guess I couldgive him a little bit of a pass.
But if you hug me and you makeany kind of weird noise, that's
the last time I'm hugging youwell, like I said, he wanted
more, he's my same age, like Isaid he wanted more.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
How old is he?
He's my same age.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Well, how do you know he wanted more?
Was it just the hugs?
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Because he kept asking me out and I would say
and I'm not going to use hisname, but I would say you know,
we're neighbors and we're justfriends, and I really don't want
to you friend-zoned him.
I did, but he didn't reallywork that way, he's got nice
property.
He's obviously got money, sowhat was the?
Speaker 2 (00:48):
issue.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
He just wasn't for me Winking at you.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
What's the issue?
He made two of the threecriteria.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
I'm just a poor white child, he's not a bad.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
He's a hard worker.
I will say that he worked forDOT, but he also ran.
They call him Joe Dirt.
Oh, don't record that.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Oh, don't record that , Like she can't edit it.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
But anyway.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Hey, we're live.
This is our first live podcast.
This is our first live.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
I'm live on TikTok right now, just so you know.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
You better stop it.
You better stop it.
Where's my stuff?
Oh, for the love of god, forthe love of god, how long are
you welcome?
Speaker 2 (01:37):
oh, my goodness shut up, bobby.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Welcome everyone.
Shut up, bobby.
Welcome everyone to today'sshow.
Boomer and a Gen X are walkingto a bar, coming to you from the
rabbit hole studio, where you,as our listeners, will
experience some wit and wisdom,some smartassery and a mother
and a daughter questioning arewe even related, especially
(02:00):
today?
My name is Jane Burt, myco-host is my daughter, bobby,
and for the next few minuteswe're probably gonna banter and
argue, most likely because ourtopic is one that is very
conflicting with the two of us,but I couldn't get her to shut
up and one of us couldn't getour crap together.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Oh my goodness, how do?
I open this.
Where's my stuff that I use allthe time?
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Get off my junk, please, please.
So, bobby, how are you anyway?
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Oh you know, it's hot , corn sweats, 60 mile an hour
wind, it's Iowa, it's greatTriple digits, you know, but you
know what the Iowa State Fairis going on in Iowa, one of the
biggest, greatest state fairs.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
And before we get on to our topic, I disagree.
I know you don't go though God.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
I hate it, I know, but you don't even go.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
So if you don't like big crowds, don't go.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Don't.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
But here's the other thing Back in the day, the state
fair and the county fairs wereactually developed for farmers
to come in and show their cattle, show their horses, show their
sheep.
That part's cool, it is cool.
And to look at uh equipment,you know, tractors and all kinds
(03:15):
of newest top of the lineequipment exactly yeah exactly,
you go to the iowa state fairnow and, uh, you got a whole lot
of eating going on well,because I like that part all
there is.
I like that there's there's somerides and and don't get me
wrong there's some good showsand the iowa state fair.
(03:35):
They always say, oh, thetickets are so much, what are
they?
15 dollars or something Iwouldn't know, but there's so
many free shows, and that's whatmakes the ticket price go up is
there are a lot of free showsand they have grandstand
concerts and they bring in somegood names.
I mean Pitbull was here and youknow they've had some really
(03:57):
good acts here.
So anyway, I do like the StateFair, I do not, and it is in.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Iowa right now.
Listen, I love the food, I lovethe actual like animal shows,
things like that, but when itlike the midway rides, I do not
trust anything that comes out ofa suitcase.
Okay, you pull a ride out of asuitcase and chalk it with some,
you know, two by fours and somecinder blocks and the guy who's
(04:24):
supposed to be inspecting theerection of these is on his
phone, not even looking aspeople are putting them at once.
Yeah, his hair gone.
You know it's fine,everything's fine, but it is I
mean, I still go.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
We go a couple times a year and we walk around and we
people watch because we love todo that.
Um, I used to eat at the statefair.
I don't think we ate anythingat the state fair last year
maybe we ate one thing, but alot of people, that's all they
go for scandalous.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
It was some weird recommend.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
It was something and I didn't like it.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Oh man the turkey legs, the deep fried oreos.
Corn dogs, the corn dogs, thehomemade that fried ribs, the
homemade root beer is got to beup at the top.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
I mean it's amazing.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
But yeah, even the food lately has been really
declining because a lot of theold vendors have backed out yeah
, they have.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
And the one that I used to go to.
It was an italian sausagesandwich.
Yeah, the guinea grinders, yeah, and she died and they closed
down.
They just said, no, we're notgoing to do it anymore.
The whole family said no, notdoing it anymore and travesty I
don't even, I don't even buyanything out there anymore.
But I will say this, you know,because iowa people are so um
(05:36):
malnutrited and, um, you know,are so thin so thin that they
run out of the scooter rentalsat the courtesy desk at the fair
every year by 9 am.
Yeah, Do you have an illness ora condition, or are you just?
I don't know tired and fat.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
I need to be able to carry my 10 turkey legs as I go,
so I'm going to need a scooter.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
It's fun to kind of go and watch, but it does make
you sad because we are a societyof overweight people.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
That's not news.
Did you hear that this yearthey're doing some kind of
experimental part in the foodarea?
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Really yeah, are you just blowing smoke, is it a
scale?
Speaker 3 (06:18):
It's just a big trough, oh, okay.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
I thought it was like a big trucker scale that you
have to go across before you cango buy something.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
No, but they did used to have that guy in the midway.
Who would guess?
Your weight and they don't dothat anymore.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
I don't know, people got a little sensitive and it's
like oh, I guess they neverguessed my age or weight
correctly, so I always won andthen they always have the guy
who you throw the ball and dunkhim.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Yeah, oh my gosh, he was so mouthy that they won't
let him come back now.
They don't have that anymore.
He was so funny what a bunch ofsnowflakes oh, just a bunch of
cry baby, wah-wah, creepers, Idon't know, I just.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
But anyway, that's not even our topic, any who's's,
any who's.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
Today we are going to talk about music.
Music and, yeah, is there acertain genre that you like the
best, or do you like all music,or what do you think there?
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Bobby, the best.
No, actually I literally myplaylist goes from one end of
the spectrum to the other and itgoes all decades all to the
other, and it goes all decadesall.
I mean.
I listened to everything from,you know, the original Hank
Williams and Patsy Cline tounsigned artists that I've heard
on TikTok yeah, I do too, and Ilove some of the new songs that
(07:35):
you get off a tip TikTok, ohyeah and a lot of artists.
That's where they're beginningnow, because they're coming up.
You know as unsigned theyrecord it.
You know whether it's in theirbedroom or even just on their
phone doesn't it blow your mindhow talented some of these
people?
Speaker 1 (07:50):
oh man, it's crazy, not only their vocals, but their
ability to play all theseinstruments, and I mean, I have
a hard time playing a broom or ashovel well, that's obvious.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
But yeah, yeah, no, it is, and it's.
It's great that they have thatplatform now, because, instead
of going through what a lot ofthe artists have had to go
through and that includes, um,you know, being oh, what's the
word I'm looking for where youknow they're abused, they're
used, they're um demeaned andeven, you know, sometimes
(08:24):
assaulted.
They have to pay a price.
Yeah, they don't have to paythis price anymore.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Right, and I think that's first of all.
It's horrible.
What you know, you think backof what?
Like Justin Bieber, I trulybelieve that kid.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
That poor kid.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
I just feel sorry for him.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
And he's not the only one.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
There's a lot of them that went through this and it
just it really does just kind ofbreak your heart thinking about
it.
But you know, hopefully yeah,these folks don't have to go
through that type of rigor andthat you listen to.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
It might not be so much of a thing, but are you
able to separate the artist fromthe art?
Like you know, things like RKelly, p Diddy, things like that
.
If you like their music and youfind out that they have done
something that these guys havedone, are you able to continue
to support their music or listento their music while still
(09:25):
hating the artist?
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Some of it I can.
Really Some of it I can.
Yeah Well, I mean I don't hatethe artist, but first of all, I
never listened to P Diddy.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Well, I know that I was trying to bring up some
scandals that are recent, butit's a good example, but I don't
know of anybody that was in areal bad.
Jerry Lee Lewis.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Jerry Lee Lewis, yeah .
I mean, you'll still listen tohis music, even though you know
now.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Elvis Presley yes Pink.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Pink, I will not listen to her anymore.
What?
No, I will not.
Nope, she pissed me off.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Well.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Pissed me off in the last election when she said if
you voted republican, stopworking for well, I'm listening
now wait a minute I'm sure she'slistening to my music and I
thought well, fuck you, excuseme we're not editing that out
we're not editing that out, youknow I mean first of you know I
(10:23):
mean.
First of all, this is America.
I don't care who you vote for.
Vote for whomever you want tovote for.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
That's what it's all about right, but then again,
this is America and she has theright to say that, and I have
the right to listen to her musicor not.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
I love Pink.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
I of pink.
I don't anymore what they saypolitically.
I don't give a crap what yourpolitical association is.
Now, when it comes to sextrafficking, things like that,
abuses like that, especiallywhen it comes to minors, things
like that, people who areunderprivileged, I will never
even look the way of one of youralbums again.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Really screw off, man yeah, I, you know, I guess
again I never liked p diddy.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
I never liked p diddy , tupac and them, absolutely.
He you know he was on that um.
He was on trial for shootingthe cops, yeah.
Was on trial for murder, yeahman I still listen to him.
I love those guys I don't.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
I mean, don't get me wrong I mean, when pink said
that it just made me mad, itwasn't like oh, you know.
To be honest, like I said, Idon't care who you vote for.
I really and truly don't.
That's your right in America.
Just let me vote for who I wantto.
But if you're going to tell medon't listen to your music
anymore, okay, I'll oblige.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
What about the Cowards formerly known as the
Dixie Chicks?
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Oh, the Chixie Dix.
They're just the chicks.
Now, they're just the Chicks.
I like some of their music.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
I love their music.
I am not a.
Natalie.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Baines fan, but I will tell you I like some Of
their music she was a neighborwhen I Lived in Texas oh yeah,
she was your neighbor, she waskind of nasty.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
She was a mean girl.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Well, now I've met One of mom's neighbor when I
lived in texas.
Oh yeah, she was your neighbor.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
She was kind of nasty .
Yeah, she was a mean girl well,now I've met one of mom's um.
I don't know if she stillidolizes her, but I know that
she did.
At one time I actually met herface to face and she was the
biggest bitch I've ever met inmy life.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Reba mcintyre, oh you know what's her heart?
I used to really love her andthen she got a tv show and I
thought, stand down yeah, staywith your music.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Well, when I worked out at the airport.
She's doing really goodcommercials now, though.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Now she's doing commercials, but when I worked
out at the airport I met quite afew acts that would come in for
the state fair yeah, yeah um,because I was actually.
I would clean airplanes outthere in the private sector, and
so I met people like alan jack.
That man is gold we should haveprotected him at all costs.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
I met him so.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
I dated that guy from Signature.
Yeah, that's how I had my job,remember that's right yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
And so I met Helen Hunt, I met ACDC.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
Yeah, acdc was out there.
What song does Helen Hunt sing?
She doesn't, she's an actress.
I thought we were talking aboutmusic.
What song does Helen Hunt sing?
She doesn't, she's an actress.
Oh, I thought we were talkingabout music.
No, no, no, no, no, we'retalking about famous people at
this point.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
But no.
Reba McEntire I really did likeher music a lot.
Now I guess I've just grown outof it and I really didn't like
her TV shows at all.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
I thought stick to what you know have passion for
of hers.
But yeah, when I met her, Imean and I was just a kid, I was
what like 12, 13 at the timeworking out there yeah, I mean
yeah and alan jackson, and hejust had a heart of gold man.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
I mean just a great guy, but yeah I mean tim mcgraw,
I think, came to McGraw.
Yeah, yeah, super nice.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
But it's like you know, it's the ability to
differentiate, and there arejust some things that I think
are unforgivable.
I don't care how good yourmusic is, I don't care how
popular you are, I don't carehow good you look, if you commit
some of these acts, then you'redead.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
To me, you commit some of these acts, then you're
dead to me like I will neverever if I hear a song on the
radio.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
I flip it if I see.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
You know things, I I cannot forgive some things yeah,
there's some I do, but for themost part I really, you know, I
do separate the songs and theartists from what they actually
so can you separate the lyricsand the artist?
Yeah, I think I have have you.
Yeah, in a lot of cases.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
Some people can't.
Yeah, some people get firedover it.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Some people do, oh, absolutely.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
There was one executive that was singing along
to one of those songs.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Drop the N-word.
Yeah, and he got fired and it'slike what?
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (14:43):
How does that I mean?
Speaker 1 (14:45):
I think that is crap.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
I think it's absolute crap.
Because even when my kids wereyounger I would always say look,
if it's in the song, if it's acuss word, you're allowed to
sing it.
I'm sorry, if it's on the radioand it's a cuss word or
whatever, and it's in the song,are you allowed to go around
saying that cuss word?
Absolutely not.
But if you're singing it andit's in the song and it's
justified but here's the otherthing.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Here's the other thing.
Wasn't that song playing in thestudio?
Speaker 3 (15:12):
he wasn't playing it he was, he was singing along to
it, he was singing along to itbeing played in the studio.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Right, if they were that worried about it.
What are you doing playing thatkind of music in the studio?
Speaker 2 (15:23):
he doesn't get a free pass oh, isn't that horse crap?
Speaker 1 (15:27):
I mean, it's just horse crap.
So anyway, standard yeah yeah,so I think that's a good
question.
Can you separate yourself fromwhat someone has done?
Speaker 2 (15:37):
you know yeah or said , or the lyrics that are in some
of their songs.
Um, because I know the bigcontroversy when I was a young
and budding teen I would say Iwas like 13, 14 years old Long
time ago, snoop Doggy Doggreleased an album called Doggy
Style, and it was one of themost scandalous things that had
(15:58):
happened to white folks sincesince slavery ended.
I swear to God, these peoplewere up in arms.
Wait a minute.
We were happy slavery ended.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
I swear to god, these people were up in arms.
Wait a minute.
We were happy, slavery ended.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Oh, yeah, no, but I'm saying it's, it's the biggest
scandal since that happened,because I remember all my
friends were like, oh, my momhas banned that album, you know?
Because the lyrics, because ofhow he talks things me.
I'm bumping it in my room likeI'm like I just walked down to
the record store and bought room.
Like I'm like I just walkeddown to the record store and
bought one.
Like I I don't know what you'retalking about well, there is.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
uh, I will say there's a lot of music that I
just flat out won't listen to,and it's because it's degrading.
And so I like rap music.
I like the beat.
Bobby bobby just about chokedon her chicken down there, or
choked her chicken, I don't know.
I do like some rap musicbecause I like the beat.
(16:51):
I think I'm still cool, youknow, I like the beat.
I like the beat, I like thebeat Shush.
But there is some music that Ireally just flat out won't
listen to.
If every other word is the Fword if're talking about, you
know their wap, um, I'm notinterested in any of that.
Uh, you know, dr domain isconfused.
(17:11):
We'll tell you later what thatis um, and you know so, some of
the dispute, of course, in rapmusic has to do with misogyny
and, uh, just really kind ofdefined as the dislike of, or
contempt for, or ingrainedprejudice against, either a
(17:32):
certain type of people or women,and primarily it's women, yeah,
and the saddest part, I think,is you have women who are saying
these things too, and I, I am afirm believer that you don't do
that to other people, first ofall, and you definitely don't do
it woman to woman.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
You know, if you want to call somebody a name, go
call them a name, but I don'treally need it and well, and the
irony of that is, you know, alot of the rappers talk about
how they were, excuse me, howthey were raised by single
mothers and then they come onthese rap albums and talk about
women that way, yeah, and it'skind of I get it, because a lot
(18:13):
of it is necessity of industry.
This is what's selling, this iswhat, um, the record label is
looking for, type of thing, buta lot of it is their choice
because, I mean, I turned you onto tom mcdonald quite a few,
yeah, years ago.
I like it and it's crazy thatyou like it.
And eminem, yeah, I love eminemand they.
Eminem was one of the mostdegrading human beings to women
(18:39):
he was when he first came outand his daughter started getting
older.
You hated him.
You hated me listening to him.
You hated me showing yourgrandchildren him like we would
you know, bump him in the carthe whole time.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
But the older his daughter and the older his
daughter got and the morerespect he had for his daughter
and he wanted respect for her.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
He doesn't respect his ex-wife and I completely
understand but, um, yeah, I mean, it's a lot of it is.
It's what's selling.
It's what the industry isasking for.
It's what is selling You'reright, it's what's making money.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
And it all boils down to what the green is all about
right Follow the money and youknow some of the rap lyrics.
So in videos and other elementsof that kind of music I was
going to say object toobjectivity, no, no, okay, try
it again.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Objectification, there we go.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Or exploitation.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
I'll say that I can say that Okay.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
I get a gold star today.
Or victimization of women and,um, you know, like I said, I
think the saddest part is whenyou hear women say it to women,
you know.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
Or degrade other women you don't like a woman,
Walk away.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
You know we've talked about that before, but it can
manifest in a lot of differentways and you know, in a lot of
the videos and I have seenplenty where it depicts women
who are doing some prettyhorrible things.
You don't have to do that.
I mean not on a video, right,but it is exactly what you said.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Follow the so she just really aged herself because
mtv has not music has not hadmusic videos in probably like 25
years, whatever.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
What are the?
What do you call them?
Tiktoks?
Speaker 2 (20:24):
well, no, I mean, they're music videos they are,
but I mean, you have to gosearch them out anymore to see
them.
Like, if somebody drops a musicvideo, you've got to go on
YouTube, you've got to go on Evo, things like that, in order to
see them.
Because back then we had VH1.
We had MTV, we had CMT.
All they did was show musicvideos, and now we don't have
that anymore.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Yeah, but it isn't just rap music, no.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
What about the actions?
Not just their lyrics, but what?
Speaker 1 (20:51):
they do the actions I think are pretty disgusting.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
So you would stop listening to someone if they did
something repulsive?
Speaker 1 (20:58):
If they were super repulsive, like let's see yeah,
super repulsive.
Put a cape on it.
I'm going to test.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Put a cape on it.
It's super.
Now Put a cap on that thing.
Like what Sex pistols?
I love the sex pistols.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
So you know, he broke a bottle open and cut his chest
open with a broken beer bottle.
That said I need a fix.
In front of all these kids, infront of everybody in the
audience.
Is that something that I wouldreally advocate?
The answer is no.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
So you stopped listening to the sex pist, stop
listening to ask mom about, um,the time I got grounded for, uh,
the marilyn manson concert whatdid marilyn manson do?
What didn't, what didn't he do,but what, what?
Speaker 3 (21:43):
okay, I want to hear that, but what about?
Like this can be kind ofcontroversial to our listeners
because everyone's, everyone'sgetting into the aussie band
bandwagon.
I do like ozzy, I think he's.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
He was a great he thought it was a fake bat okay,
we're not going down the batroad, go ahead.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
Dr domain so I that was one of the big regrets of my
life's not going to thatconcert oh man, I wish I could
have been there.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
so yeah, because he did that here in iowa.
Yeah, it was in des moinesactually Back in 82 when he did
that and he got banned from DesMoines.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
So when he did that, did you stop listening to Ozzy?
No, what about when he pissedon the Alamo?
Did you stop listening to himthen, Uh-uh, so it's not super
offensive.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Right, it's certain things.
I mean.
His lyrics weren't thatoffensive, I guess, towards
women?
Speaker 3 (22:29):
I'm not talking about lyrics.
I was talking about actions.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
No, I'm saying his actions were offensive, but they
weren't offensive Like you knowyou're, you know, having sex
acts with somebody on stage, oryou're pretending like you're
having sex acts or eatingsomebody, or I hate that, I just
said that on the air, orcutting yourself open and
bleeding into the crowd.
Um, having references to kids,you know, uh, doing those types
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of acts, that that is a that's adone deal for me.
Sorry, what?
Speaker 3 (23:03):
He's given me that.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
look, he's given me this.
I'm just trying to understandthe boundaries here.
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
My parameters are weird.
I mean, I don't know theparameters.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
My boundaries are weird, I mean, I don't know.
So self-mutilation is offlimits.
Not to me oh okay, we got ourboundaries.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
That's why she's at that end of the Chewing the head
off the basket.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
Pissing on the Alamo is okay.
We can do all that right Ididn't say.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Does it mean that I approve of that?
No, I didn't approve of thatDid I think it was disgusting?
Yeah, I thought it wasdisgusting, but you know you're
asking me two differentquestions, so there, I
understand, but I'm just tryingto get to the limits.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
Where are the limits he's trying?
Speaker 2 (23:46):
to draw the line around in your fence.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
Bobby's boundary is much further down the field.
My fence is like trying to herdkittens.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
It can't happen.
Okay, so you have an issue withthe lyrics that degrade to mean
women, things like that.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Even men.
Now I mean, I really do Okayblah blah blah Anyways.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
What about the hit song that was about killing your
husband and burying him withyour friends?
Speaker 1 (24:18):
earl's gotta die, baby yeah, well, um wasn't it
garth brooks, it had the onewhere uh the thunder rolls.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
No, the thunder rolls yeah, it was the extended
version where she went into thebedroom, got the gun and then no
there's another one where hetakes a semi through the motel.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Yeah, yeah, that was all okay.
But I mean, but I'm asking you,but I'm asking you is it is
earl okay, is no?
Speaker 2 (24:42):
he's dead well, no, I know he's dead.
I'm saying for you obviouslyhe's dead you know the song very
well because all I had to saywas the parameters you knew.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
I knew exactly what you're talking about.
Listen, I've said it before ifa man ever beat me up, I'd kill
him in their sleep.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
But you know where?
Where's the line?
Speaker 1 (25:03):
I don't know my line is for entertainment purposes.
Where's the line my?
Speaker 2 (25:09):
line looks like a thunderbolt, your fancy fence,
and it sure as heck ain'tholding no cattle, that's for
sure so keep your cattle on yourown side.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
I don't even know what that meant.
Let's get back to the subject,because I wanted to say that it
isn't just rap music or evenrock and roll music that can be
that disgusting.
There's country music, like youjust mentioned, that can be,
you know, pretty out there orsay some pretty disgusting
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things about either men or women.
Also, I'll be honest with you.
You know I'm a very spiritualperson.
I have a strong belief, belief.
But there's some religiousmusic out there that I think
ain't happening first of all,they're preaching the wrong
thing.
And secondly, um, the way you'repreaching it makes it seem like
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everything is still okay andit's not.
Um, and so, yeah, I I have somedisgust for some religious
music or some gospel music.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Some of it just rubs me the wrong way, because it
seems like you have a veryintimate relationship with the
Holy Ghost.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
I do.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
I'm saying intimate in the wrong way.
Okay, like the way the songs,some of the songs go.
It's like are we really talkingabout uh?
Speaker 3 (26:30):
that doesn't like what I mean I don't know.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
I don't even know some of the songs, but it's like
where you know they'll besinging about like, oh, he comes
at night and touches me deeplyand I just and it's like they're
talking about jesus and it'slike please do not touch me
deeply at night, jesus yeah, I,I understand what you're saying.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
I understand what you're saying you can, they
could use a whole different sowhat about bands like kiss?
What about them?
Every song they had was abouttheir penises.
Yes, yeah, well, I meanbasically I mean love gun.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
Love gun was a song about about.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
That's what gene simmons said.
He said every song we wrote wasabout our penis yeah, I mean.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
What about that?
You know, was that cool for thekids?
Yes, he did say that Come onnow, give me one reference.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
Give me one reference to.
She just did Love Gun.
No, no, no, no, no, oh To penisin the song Beth.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
It isn't.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
Give me one oh you can't think of one.
See, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
She doesn't know the lyrics.
No, I don't know the lyrics.
He was talking.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
He was just making headlines with that.
He was yeah, but Love.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
God was definitely about.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
Oh, yeah, Well, he made that comment and I thought
I'd have to think about that,because I don't know the lyrics
to all your songs so I don'treally know whether that know.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
We can slip it in any way that we want to bazinga
anyways, you can put lyricshowever you want to and make
them, make them sound completelyinnocent, when in reality
you're talking about somethingelse or you can make them sound
something that really isn'tdirty, or something that really
isn't dirty, or something thatisn't really, but then again
it's your choice on what youlisten to.
It's what your choice on what,what you spend your money on.
Well, back then, what you spentyour money on.
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Now you just buy a streamingservice.
You can listen to whatever, butthey get the likes, they get
the shares, they get the views.
So really it is your choice onon you listen to.
But yeah, if these songs arecontinuing to top the charts,
you know with WAP and thingslike that, there's a reason for
it.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
There's a reason for it.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
It's not just money.
I'm talking about thedisconnect of people who do
listen to it from you know,maybe they I'm not saying that
they don't have morals or values, but I'm saying maybe they can
disconnect from you know whatthey believe in their real life
and just enjoy the song.
You know, maybe they like toget you know a little crazy in
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their kitchen when they're doingtheir dishes at 2 am maybe type
of thing, because I rememberlistening to a rap song and I
was like dancing to it orwhatever.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
And you came in and it was like, do you know what
they're saying?
And I go, no, I don't, I don'thave a clue what they're saying.
And then you start telling meand I I don't even remember what
song it was it was like, oh mygosh, but I liked the music,
right, right, I liked the, Iliked the tune and that's what
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sells?
Yeah, but according to Wikipedia, an analysis was done and they
found that a substantialpercentage of rap lyrics, like
37%, contained some form ofmisogyny, with variations
depending on, you know, ofmisogyny with variations
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depending on, you know, the thesubgenre, genre, subgenre,
subgenre, uh, of the music, andso I can see that.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
You know, I can see that because rap um was actually
built on men right built on thebacks of men right because
there wasn't a lot of women inrap um early on and some of the
objections that they listed inthis analysis indicated.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
You know, depicting women as sexual objects, um.
Stereotyping, kind ofreinforcing the negative or
harmful stereotypes about women.
Dehumanization, uh, reducingwomen to mere objects or
possessions, which I hear a lotin rap music I hear it a lot in
all music probably glorificationof violence, which is seems to
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be growing, and then, um, yeah,I disagree.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
I disagree on that one.
Really I do.
I do because back in the late80s, early 90s, the
glorification of violence andrap music was, I would say, at
the height because of what wasgoing on in the different coasts
, la and New York, and thingslike that.
It was a lot worse back thenwhen I was a teenager.
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It was a lot worse than it isnow, lot worse than it is now.
Some of the rap lyrics now theykind of like I'm like whoa, you
know.
But I go back and I of course Istill listen to my oldies rap
music and I'm like, wow, we werereally messed up back then.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
I mean, some shit was going down I was listening to a
really old song and I wastelling dr domain about it the
other day and I said do youremember this song?
And he goes yeah.
And I said have you ever reallykind of listened to the lyrics
to this?
Wait, I want to know what songit was.
I can't remember the name, butI'm going to kind of sing it for
you.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
And it was like um okay it was uh turn down your
music.
Everybody turn the volume down,the volume down, okay turn this
down, because I might sing.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
But he said uh, hey little little, something about
hey little girl.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
That, right there, I'm a man in a big sedan.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
Won't you hop inside my car?
I got music Candy.
I'm a lovable man.
I'll take you to the neareststar.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
Oh my God, that is a pedophile trying to get a kid in
a car.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
But we sang that and I don't even remember, was it a
Jerry Lee Lewis song?
Speaker 2 (32:08):
No, it sounds like a Jerry Lee Lewis song.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
No, but there's another one by Rod Stewart.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
Oh, he always creeped me out, he always creeped me
out.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
Did you look it up, dr Domain, what was the name of
that song?
Speaker 3 (32:20):
Do you remember?
No, I don't.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
But you know what song I'm talking about?
Yeah, and there was a lot ofthem back then that were
considered, you know, like rockand roll back then, because it
wasn't as heavy as it is now.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
Yeah.
And the lyrics were just like,or I got the hots for the
teacher.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Yeah, like you, listen to it now and you're like
, what the hell were thesepeople on?
Well, it was cocaine.
First of all, everybody was oncocaine.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
But um, yeah, you just listen to the lyrics 14 hey
, now, hey, that was like one ofour very first arguments.
We were um driving, we were ingeorgia and I was listening to a
song and man, she got upsetwhat do you remember?
Speaker 1 (33:08):
the song no, no, is that the one about?
Speaker 3 (33:10):
Was it WAPS?
Speaker 1 (33:11):
No.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
Stacey's mom has got a habit going on.
Oh yeah, and I'm like I go.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
do you know what I mean?
Seriously listen, she got allanalytical and serious about a
nice one Shut up.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
I just wanted to listen to this she was really
just kind of harsh and mellow.
I was just really trying toenjoy the song and of course he
tries to justify why a?
Speaker 1 (33:29):
12 or 13 year old boy would have hives for Jesse's
mom.
Well, they're coming into theirown, it's normal A little
perverted creep that would belike her being in the car when,
I
Speaker 2 (33:43):
start listening to Scotty Doesn't Know the song
Scotty Doesn't Know she wouldlose her shit.
I'm not even joking, like itwould be probably would it
probably you probably would yeah, and what's funny is that song
was not actually a song.
It was a song that was writtenonly for a band to play in a
movie and it.
It became such a big hit thatit figures yeah, yep but I've
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exposed you to a lot of goodmusic.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
Oh yeah, like what was the one about going down the
river on a shithouse door.
What is that?
Speaker 3 (34:18):
What was that?
Oh, mojo Nixon, me and yourmama and some other whore
Floating down the river on ashithouse door.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
Oh, but rap is the problem.
Rap is the problem.
I didn't say.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
I said it's in all the music.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
But she sat and listened to it.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
Oh, he's got some of the most disgusting music of
these hillbillies.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
I blew my balls to my butthole.
Oh man, what was that?
What was the name of that oneband that had all messed up
songs Like they were the mostunhinged songs I've ever?
Speaker 1 (34:46):
heard in my life.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
Oh, I'm sure it's something that's on his playlist
.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
It is.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
It's got to be God.
What was their name?
Speaker 1 (34:52):
What is it?
What is it Dr Domain?
It was like early 80s, I don'tknow.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
Maybe mid 80s?
Oh, my God, I'm going to haveto think about this and get back
to you, because Was it RedPeters?
Speaker 3 (35:03):
No, the dog named.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
Staines?
No, who's the one that's?
Speaker 2 (35:15):
with his wife, probably the whole town.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
No, I mean His last name starts with a P, I think
Prine, prine.
Yes, bobby, I know you'velistened to that.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
I've listened to Primus.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
What are we talking?
Speaker 3 (35:27):
about yeah, john Prine, he's a legend.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
I've never heard that .
I've listened to Primus.
What are we talking about?
Yeah, john Prine, he's a legend.
I've never heard that, anywayback to the point.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
You know some of the music.
That's clean music, he's morefolky, is it that?
Speaker 3 (35:41):
Well which part is not clean?
Speaker 2 (35:43):
Riding down the river on a shithouse door.
No, no, no.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
That's Mojo.
That's Mojo Nixon.
I'm talking about John Prine.
He's a good singer.
He is and it's just I don'tknow, he's got some funny stuff
it is funny.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
It is, it is funny.
So that's probably all I hadfor today.
Bobby, did you have some moreon any music that you?
Speaker 2 (36:03):
looked into?
I don't.
The only thing I can say isplease don't support the people
who sex traffic and pedophile umyoung women and men in the
industry, because I don't carehow good their music is, it's
not worth it.
It's not worth it so yeah, I dothink that that is all the
insanity and uh bitchery thatmom has today about music that
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hurt my feeling.
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If you have hate mail, well,mom's not going to read it
anyway, so we don't care.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
So until next week, we'll make it into a rap song.
There we go.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
We'll drop a diss track.
There we go.
So until next week, I'm BobbiJoy and I'm Jane Bird, and
you're stuck with us.
Peace out Later.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
Where's my stuff?
Oh for the love of God, boo Boo.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
Boo Boo.
For the love of God, how longare you going to be away?
Speaker 1 (37:31):
Welcome.
Oh my goodness, shut up, bobby.
Welcome everyone to today'sshow.
Boomer and a Gen X are walkingto a bar, coming to you from the
rabbit hole studio, where you,as our listeners, will
experience some wit and wisdom,some smart assery and a mother
and a daughter questioning arewe even related, especially
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today?
My name is Jane Burt, myco-host is my daughter, bobby,
and for the next few minuteswe're probably going to banter
and argue, most likely Becauseour topic is one that is very
conflicting with the two of us,but I couldn't get her to shut
up and one of us couldn't getour crap together.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
Oh my goodness how do I?
Open this.
Where's my stuff?
Get off my all the time get offmy junk, please, please.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
So um, bobby, how are you anyway?
Speaker 2 (38:22):
Oh, you know, it's hot, corn sweats, 60 mile an
hour wind, it's Iowa, it's great, triple digits, you know.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
But you know what.
The Iowa State Fair is going onin Iowa, one of the biggest,
greatest state fairs.
And before we get on to ourtopic, I disagree.
I know you don't go though God.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
I hate it, I know, but you don't even go.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
So if you don't like big crowds, don't go.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
Don't.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
But here's the other thing Back in the day the state
fair and the county fairs wereactually developed for farmers
to come in and show their cattle, show their horses, show their
sheep.
That part's cool, it is cool.
And to look at uh, equipment,you know, tractors and all kinds
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of newest top of the lineequipment exactly yeah exactly,
you go to the iowa state fairnow and, uh, you got a whole lot
of eating going on well,because I like that part all
there is I like that there'sthere's some rides and, don't
get me wrong, there's some goodshows and the Iowa State Fair.
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they always say, oh, the ticketsare so much.
What are they?
$15 or?
Speaker 2 (39:32):
something I wouldn't know.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
But there's so many free shows, and that's what
makes the ticket price go up isthere are a lot of free shows
and they have grandstand umconcerts and they bring in some
good names, I mean Pitbull washere and you know they've had,
they've had some really goodacts here.
So anyway, I do like the statefair and uh, it is in Iowa right
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now.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
I love the food, I love the actual like animal
shows, things like that, um.
But when it like the midwayrides, I do not trust anything
that comes out of a suitcase.
Okay, you pull, you pull a rideout of a suitcase and chalk it
with some, you know, two byfours and some cinder blocks and
the guy who's supposed to beinspecting the erection of these
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is on his phone.
Speaker 1 (40:20):
Not even looking as people are putting them up.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
Two cigarettes lit at once, half his hair gone.
It's fine, everything's fine.
Speaker 1 (40:28):
I still go.
We go a couple times a year andwe walk around and we people
watch because we love to do that.
I used to eat at the State Fair.
I don't think we ate anythingat the State Fair last year
Maybe we ate one thing, but alot of of people that's all they
go for scandalous.
Speaker 2 (40:43):
It was some weird recommend it was something and I
didn't like it oh man theturkey legs, the deep fried
oreos, corn dogs, the corn dogs,the homemade that fried ribs
the homemade root beer is got tobe up at the top.
Speaker 3 (40:57):
I mean it's, it's amazing.
Speaker 2 (40:59):
But yeah, even the food lately has been really
declining because a lot of theold vendors have backed out yeah
, they have.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
And the one that I used to go to.
It was an italian sausagesandwich.
Yeah, the guinea grinders, yeah, and she died and they closed
down.
They just said, no, we're notgoing to do it anymore.
The whole family said no, notdoing it anymore and travesty I
don, so I don't even buyanything out there anymore.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
But I will say this, you know because Iowa people are
so malnutritioned and, you know, are so thin, so thin that they
run out of the scooter rentalsat the courtesy desk at the fair
every year by 9 am.
Speaker 1 (41:44):
Do you have an illness or a condition, or are
you just?
Speaker 2 (41:45):
I don't know tired and fat, I need to be able to
carry my 10 turkey legs as I go,so I'm gonna need a scooter
it's fun to kind of go and watchit, but it does make you sad
because we are a society ofoverweight people that's for
sure.
Speaker 3 (41:59):
That's not news.
Did you hear that this yearthey're doing some kind of
experimental part in the foodarea?
Speaker 1 (42:05):
really, yeah, are you just blowing smoke, is it?
Is it a scale?
Speaker 3 (42:09):
it's just a big.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
It's just a big trough oh, okay, I thought it
was like a big trucker scalethat you have to go across
before you can go buy something.
Speaker 1 (42:19):
No, but they did used to have that guy in the midway
who would guess your age orguess your age.
And they don't do that anymore.
I don't know, People got alittle sensitive and it's like
oh, I don't weigh that much.
Speaker 2 (42:30):
They never guessed my age or weight correctly, so I
always won.
Speaker 1 (42:34):
And then they always have the guy who you throw the
ball and dunk him.
Yeah, oh my gosh, he was somouthy that they won't let him
come back now.
They don't have that anymore.
He was so funny what a bunch ofsnowflakes.
Oh, just a bunch of crybabywah-wah, creepers, I don't know,
I just.
Speaker 3 (42:51):
But anyway, that's not even our topic.
Any who's, any who's.
Speaker 1 (42:56):
Today we are going to talk about music, music and
yeah, is there a certain genrethat you like the best, or do
you like all music?
Speaker 2 (43:07):
or what do you think there, bobby, best?
No, actually I literally myplaylist goes from one end of
the spectrum to the other and itgoes all decades, all I mean.
I listened to everything from,you know, the original hank
williams and patsy cline tounsigned artists that I've heard
on TikTok.
Speaker 1 (43:24):
Yeah, I do too, and I love some of the new songs that
you get off of TikTok, oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:30):
And a lot of artists.
That's where they're beginningnow, because they're coming up.
You know as unsigned theyrecord it.
You know whether it's in theirbedroom or even just on their
phone.
Speaker 1 (43:40):
Doesn't it blow your mind how talented some of these
people?
Speaker 2 (43:43):
are.
Oh man, it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (43:44):
I mean not only their vocals, but their ability to
play all these instruments.
I mean, I have a hard timeplaying a broom or a shovel.
Well, that's obvious.
Speaker 2 (43:55):
but yeah, yeah, no, it is.
And it's great that they havethat platform now, because,
instead of going through what alot of the artists have had to
go through and that includes, um, you know, being, oh, what's
the word I'm looking for whereyou know they're abused, they're
used they're um demeaned andeven you know, sometimes they
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have to pay a price.
Yeah, yeah, they don't have topay this price anymore right and
I think that's uh.
Speaker 1 (44:24):
First of all, it's horrible.
What you know, you think backof what?
Like justin bieber, I trulybelieve that kid poor that poor
kid I just feel sorry for himand he's not the only one.
There's a lot of them that wentthrough this and it just it
really does just kind of breakyour heart thinking about it.
But you know, hopefully yeah,these folks don't have to go
through that type of rigor andthat type of uh demeaning and
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debasing anymore.
Speaker 2 (44:48):
So when it comes to artists and do you?
I know that the kind of musicthat you listen to, it might not
be so much of a thing, but areyou able to separate the artist
from the art?
Like you, you know things likeR Kelly, p Diddy, things like
that.
If you like their music and youfind out that they have done
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something that these guys havedone, are you able to continue
to support their music or listento their music while still
hating the artist?
Some of it I can.
Speaker 1 (45:21):
Really Some of it I can, yeah, well, I mean I don't
hate the artist, but first ofcan really some of it I can?
Yeah, well, I mean I don't hatethe artist, but first of all I
never listened to p diddy well,I know that I was just.
I was trying to like bring up,you know, some scandals that are
recent, but it's a good example, but, um, I don't know of
anybody that was in a real jerrylee lewis, jerry lee lewis yeah
, I, yeah, I mean, you'll stilllisten to his music, even though
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you know now.
Speaker 2 (45:45):
Elvis Presley yes Pink.
Speaker 1 (45:48):
Pink, I will not listen to her anymore.
What?
No, I will not.
Nope, she pissed me off.
Speaker 2 (45:54):
Well.
Speaker 1 (45:54):
Pissed me off in the last election when she said if
you voted Republican, stopworking for, stop listening.
Speaker 2 (46:00):
Well, I'm sure.
Speaker 1 (46:01):
Now wait a minute and stop working or stop listening.
Now wait a minute she said stoplistening to my music and I
thought well, fuck you.
Speaker 2 (46:07):
Excuse me.
Speaker 3 (46:11):
We're not editing that out.
Speaker 1 (46:12):
I was a little late on that one A little late.
We're not editing that out.
I got to tell you, you know Imean, first of all, this is
America.
I don't care who you vote for.
Vote for whomever you want tovote for?
Speaker 2 (46:23):
That's vote for.
Vote for whomever you want tovote for.
That's what it's all about.
But then again, she, this isamerica, and she has the right
to say and I have the right tolisten to her music or not.
Speaker 1 (46:28):
I love pink I just I did too, but I know I do love
pink.
Speaker 2 (46:32):
I don't anymore what they say politically.
I don't give a crap what yourpolitical association is.
Now when it comes to sextrafficking, things like that,
abuses like that.
Especially when it comes to mintrafficking, things like that.
Abuses like that, especiallywhen it comes to minors, things
like that, people who are, um,underprivileged I will never
even look the way of one of youralbums again.
Speaker 1 (46:52):
Really screw off, man yeah, I, you know, I guess
again I never liked p diddy.
Speaker 2 (46:57):
I never liked p diddy , tupac and them, absolutely.
He you know he was on that um.
He was on trial for shootingthe cops.
Yeah, was on trial for murder.
Yeah, man I still listen to him.
I love those guys I don't.
Speaker 1 (47:10):
I mean, don't get me wrong.
I mean, when pink said that itjust made me mad, it wasn't like
oh, you know, I, to be honest,like I said, I don't care who
you vote for.
I really and truly don't.
That's your right in america.
Just let me vote for who I wantto, yeah.
But if you're going to tell medon't care who you vote for, I
really and truly don't, that'syour right in America.
Just let me vote for who I wantto, yeah.
But if you're going to tell me,don't listen to your music
anymore, okay, I'll oblige.
Speaker 3 (47:30):
I mean, I still do.
What about the cowards formerlyknown as the Dixie Chicks?
Speaker 1 (47:35):
Oh, the Chicksie Dicks.
They're just the chicks now.
Speaker 2 (47:39):
The dicks.
Speaker 3 (47:47):
Now they're just the chicks um, I like some of their
music I love.
Speaker 1 (47:49):
I am not a natalie manes fan, but I will tell you I
like some of their music shewas a neighbor when I lived in
texas.
Speaker 2 (47:53):
Oh, she was kind of nasty yeah she was a mean girl
well, now I've met one of mom'sum.
I don't know if she stillidolizes her, but I know that
she did.
At one time I actually met herface to face and she was the
biggest bitch I've ever met inmy life.
Speaker 1 (48:07):
Reba mcintyre, oh you know what's her heart?
I used to really love her andthen she got a tv show and I
thought, stand down yeah, staywith your music.
Speaker 3 (48:15):
Well, when I worked out at the airport, she's doing
really good commercials.
Speaker 2 (48:18):
Now, though, now she's doing commercials, but
when I worked at the airport Imet quite a few acts that would
come in for the state fair yeah,yeah um, because I was actually
.
I would clean airplanes outthere in the private sector, and
so I met people like alanjackson.
That man is gold we should haveprotected him at all costs.
I met him, so uh I dated thatguy from Signature.
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Yeah, that's how I had my job,remember that's right.
Speaker 1 (48:44):
And so I met Helen Hunt, I met ACDC.
Speaker 3 (48:49):
Yeah, acdc was out there.
What song does Helen Hunt sing?
She doesn't, she's an actress.
Speaker 1 (48:54):
No, no, no, no I'm just saying.
But no.
Speaker 2 (48:59):
Reba McIntyre, I really did like her music a lot.
Speaker 1 (49:03):
Now I guess I've just grown out of it and I really
didn't like her TV shows at all.
I thought stick to what youknow.
Speaker 2 (49:10):
I mean she's entertaining, but I've never
there's a few songs that Ireally do, you know, have
passion for of hers.
But yeah, when I met her, Imean and I was just a kid, I was
what like 12, 13 at the time,working out there- yeah, she was
just real bossy to you, I meannasty bossy.
Yeah, and Alan Jackson, he justhad a heart of gold man.
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I mean just a great guy.
But yeah, I mean.
Speaker 1 (49:34):
Tim McGraw, I think, came to the role.
Speaker 2 (49:37):
He's super nice, but it's like you know, it's the
ability to differentiate, andthere are just some things that
I think are unforgivable.
I don't care how good yourmusic is, I don't care how
popular you are, I don't carehow good you look, if you commit
some of these acts, then you'redead to me, like I will never.
(49:57):
Ever.
If I hear a song on the radio,I flip it.
Speaker 1 (50:04):
If I see you know things, I, I I cannot forgive
some things.
Yeah, there's some I do, butfor the most part I really, you
know, I do separate the songsand the artists from what they
actually do so?
Speaker 2 (50:12):
can you separate the lyrics and the artist?
Speaker 1 (50:16):
uh, yeah, I think I have have you, yeah, in a lot of
cases.
Speaker 3 (50:20):
Some people yeah, some people get fired over it.
Speaker 2 (50:23):
Some people do, oh, absolutely.
Speaker 3 (50:26):
There was one executive sing along to one of
those songs and he got fired andit's like what yeah?
Speaker 2 (50:34):
How does that I mean?
Speaker 1 (50:36):
that, I think, that is, I think it's absolute crap.
Speaker 2 (50:39):
Because even when my kids were younger I would always
say look, if it's in the song,if it's a cuss word, you're
allowed to sing it.
I'm sorry, if it's on the radioand it's a cuss word or
whatever, and it's in the song,are you allowed to go around
saying that cuss word?
Absolutely not.
But if you're singing it andit's in the song and it's
justified but here's the otherthing.
Speaker 1 (50:59):
Here's the other thing.
Wasn't that song playing in thestudio?
He wasn't playing it.
He was singing along to it hewas singing along to it being
played in the studio, right, ifthey were that worried about it.
What are you doing playing thatkind of music in the studio?
Speaker 2 (51:14):
He doesn't get a free pass.
Speaker 1 (51:15):
Oh, isn't that horse crap?
I mean, it's just horse crap.
Speaker 2 (51:19):
So anyway.
Speaker 1 (51:25):
It's a good question.
Can you separate yourself fromwhat someone has done?
Speaker 2 (51:27):
you know yeah or said , or the lyrics that are in some
of their songs, because I knowthe big controversy when I was a
young and budding teen I wouldsay I was like 13- 14 years old
long time ago, snoop doggie dogreleased an album called doggie
style, and it was one of themost scandalous things that had
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happened to white folks sincesince slavery ended.
I swear to god, these peoplewere up in arms, wait a minute.
Speaker 1 (51:58):
We were happy, slavery ended.
Speaker 2 (52:00):
Oh, yeah, no, but I'm saying it's, it's the biggest
scandal since that happened,because I remember all my
friends were like, oh, my momhas banned that album, you know?
Because the lyrics, because ofhow he talks things me.
I'm bumping it in my room likeI'm, like I just walked down to
the record store and bought one,like I, I don't know what
you're talking about well, thereis, uh, I will say there's a
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lot of music that I just flatout won't listen to, and it's
because it's degrading.
Speaker 1 (52:28):
And so I like rap music.
I like the beat.
Bobby just about choked on herchicken down there or choked her
chicken, I don't know.
I do like some rap musicbecause I like the beat.
I think I'm still cool.
You know, I like't know I dolike some rap music because I
like the beat.
I think I'm still cool.
You know, I like the beat.
I like the beat.
I like the beat Shush.
But there is some music that Ireally just flat out won't
(52:51):
listen to.
If every other word is the Fword, if they're talking about,
you know, their WAP Glory B, I'mnot interested in any of that,
you know things.
I'm not interested in any ofthat, you know things.
Speaker 2 (53:02):
Dr Domain is confused .
We'll tell you later what thatis.
Speaker 1 (53:06):
And you know.
So some of the dispute, ofcourse, in rap music has to do
with misogyny and just reallykind of defined as the dislike
of or contempt for, ingrainedprejudice against either a
certain type of people or women,and primarily it's women.
(53:26):
Yeah, and the saddest part, Ithink, is you have women who are
saying these things too, and II am a firm believer that you
don't do that to other peoplefirst of all, and you definitely
don't do it woman to woman.
Speaker 2 (53:39):
You know, if you want to call somebody a name, go
call them a name, but I don'treally need it, and well, and
the irony of that is, you know,a lot of the rappers talk about
how they were, excuse me, howthey were raised by single
mothers, and then they come onthese rap albums and talk about
women that way yeah and it'skind of I get it because a lot
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of it is necessity of industry.
This is what's selling, this iswhat the record label is looking
for, type of thing.
But a lot of it is their choicebecause, I mean, I turned you
on to Tom McDonald quite a fewyears ago.
I like it and it's crazy thatyou like it, and Eminem yeah, I
love Eminem, that you like it.
(54:26):
And eminem yeah, I love eminem.
And they eminem was one of themost degrading human beings to
women.
Speaker 1 (54:30):
He was when he first came out and his daughter
started getting older.
Speaker 2 (54:31):
You hated him.
You hated me listening to him.
You hated me showing yourgrandchildren him like we would
you know, bump him in the carthe whole time.
Speaker 1 (54:39):
But the older his daughter and the older his
daughter got and the morerespect he had for his daughter
met and the older his daughtergot and the more respect he had
for his daughter and he wantedrespect for her.
Speaker 2 (54:47):
He doesn't respect his ex wife and I completely
understand but, um, yeah, I mean, it's a lot of it is.
It's what's selling.
It's what the industry isasking for.
It's what is selling.
Speaker 1 (54:58):
You're right, it's what's making money and it all
boils down to what the green isall about right.
Speaker 2 (55:02):
Follow the money.
Speaker 1 (55:03):
And you know some of the rap, lyrics and videos and
other elements of that kind ofmusic encourage or glorify or
justify or legitimize.
I was going to say objectivity.
Speaker 2 (55:13):
Objectivity no, no, okay, try it again.
Objectification,objectification yes, there we go
, or exploitation.
Speaker 1 (55:21):
I'll say that there we go.
Or exploitation.
Speaker 3 (55:24):
I'll say that because I can say that word better.
Speaker 1 (55:26):
Yay for me I get a gold star today.
Or victimization of women.
You know, like I said, I thinkthe saddest part is when you
hear women say it to women, youknow, or degrade other women.
You don't like a woman, walkaway.
You know we've talked aboutthat before, but it can manifest
in a lot of different ways andyou know, in a lot of the videos
and I have seen plenty where itdepicts women who are doing
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some pretty horrible things.
Um, you don't have to do that.
I mean not on a video, right,but it is exactly what you said.
Speaker 2 (55:56):
Follow the so she just really aged herself because
mtv has not music has not hadmusic videos in probably like 25
years, whatever.
Speaker 1 (56:05):
What are the?
What do you call them?
Tiktoks?
Speaker 2 (56:07):
well, no, I mean, they're music videos they are,
but I mean, really you have togo search them out anymore to
see them.
Like, if somebody drops a musicvideo you've got to go on
youtube, you got to go on evo,things like that, in order to
see them, because back then wehad vh1, we had mtv we had cmt.
Yeah, all they did was showmusic videos, and now we don't
have that anymore.
Speaker 1 (56:28):
Yeah, but it isn't just rap music, no what about
the actions?
Speaker 3 (56:32):
not just their lyrics , but what they?
Speaker 1 (56:34):
do the actions I think are pretty disgusting.
What about?
Speaker 3 (56:37):
so you would stop listening to someone if they did
something repulsive or if theywere super repulsive, like uh,
let's see yeah, super repulsiveput a cape
Speaker 2 (56:49):
on it.
It's super now put a cap onthat thing.
So like what?
Yes, let me.
I love the pistols so you know.
Speaker 1 (56:58):
He broke a bottle open and cut his his chest open
with a broken beer bottle.
That said I need a fix, infront of all these kids, in
front of everybody in theaudience.
Is that something that I wouldreally advocate?
Speaker 3 (57:11):
the answer is no so you stopped listening to the.
Speaker 2 (57:13):
I did stop listening to ask mom about, um, the time I
got grounded for, uh, themarilyn manson concert.
What?
Speaker 3 (57:21):
What did Marilyn Manson do?
Speaker 2 (57:22):
What didn't he do?
Speaker 3 (57:25):
Okay, I want to hear that.
But what about?
Like?
This can be kind ofcontroversial to our listeners
because everyone's getting intothe Ozzy bandwagon.
I do like Ozzy.
I think he was a great artist.
Speaker 2 (57:35):
He thought it was a fake bat.
Speaker 1 (57:37):
Okay, we're not going down the bat road.
Go ahead, Dr.
Speaker 3 (57:40):
Domain.
That was one of the big regretsof my life not going to that
concert.
Speaker 2 (57:44):
Oh man, I wish I could have been there, because
he did that here in Iowa.
Yeah, it was in Des Moinesactually Back in 82 when he did
that and he got banned from DesMoines.
Speaker 3 (57:53):
So when he did that, did you stop listening to Ozzy?
Speaker 2 (57:55):
No.
Speaker 3 (57:56):
What about when he pissed on the Alamo?
Stop listening to them.
So they're super.
Speaker 2 (58:02):
Right, this is not super offensive.
It's certain things I mean.
His lyrics weren't thatoffensive, I guess, towards
women.
Speaker 3 (58:09):
I'm not talking about lyrics, I was talking about
actions.
No, I'm saying His actions wereoffensive, but they weren't
offensive.
Speaker 1 (58:14):
Like you know, you're having sex acts with somebody
on stage or you're pretendinglike you're having sex acts or
eating somebody, or I hate that.
I just said that on the air.
Speaker 2 (58:26):
Cutting yourself open and bleeding into the crowd.
Speaker 1 (58:34):
Or having references to kids doing those types of
acts.
That is a done deal for me,sorry, what?
Speaker 3 (58:40):
He's given me that.
Speaker 2 (58:41):
look, he's given me the stink eye.
Speaker 3 (58:42):
Well, I'm just trying to understand the boundaries
here.
He's trying to understand.
Speaker 1 (58:45):
I don't know, my boundaries are weird.
I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (58:47):
So self-mutilation is off limits.
Not to me.
Speaker 1 (58:51):
Okay, we got our boundaries Well that's why she's
at that end of the Chewing thehead off the basket pissing on
the Alamo is okay, we can do allthat.
I didn't say it was okay.
Speaker 3 (59:02):
You asked me if I stopped.
I just want to know what yourlimits are.
Speaker 1 (59:08):
Does it mean that I approve of that?
No, I didn't approve of thatDid I think it was disgusting?
Yeah, I thought it wasdisgusting.
But you know you're asking metwo different questions, so
there.
Speaker 3 (59:20):
I understand, but I'm just trying to get to the
limits.
Speaker 2 (59:24):
Where I understand, but I'm just trying to get to
the limits.
Where are the limits?
He's trying to draw the linearound.
Speaker 3 (59:26):
Bobby's boundaries.
Listen, my fence is like Tryingto herd kittens.
Speaker 2 (59:34):
It can't happen.
So you have an issue With thelyrics that degrade to mean
women, things like that.
Speaker 1 (59:41):
Even men now.
Anyways, what about that?
Degrade to mean women things?
Speaker 2 (59:43):
like that, even men.
Now, I mean, I really do now.
Blah, blah, blah.
Anyways, what about the hitsong that was about killing your
husband and burying him withyour friends?
Earl's got to die, baby.
Speaker 1 (59:57):
Yeah, well, wasn't it ?
Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
Garth.
Speaker 1 (01:00:00):
Brooks, that had the one where the Thunder Rolls.
No, the Thunder Rolls.
Speaker 2 (01:00:05):
Yeah, it was the extended version where she went
into the bedroom, got the gunand then no there's another one
where he takes a semi throughthe motel.
Speaker 3 (01:00:13):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:00:14):
That was all okay, but I'm asking you, is'm asking
you is it is earl, okay is?
No, he's dead well, no, I knowhe's dead.
I'm saying for you obviouslyhe's dead you know the song very
well because all I had to saywas the parameters I knew
exactly what you're talkingabout.
Speaker 1 (01:00:33):
Listen, I've said it before if a man ever beat me up,
I'd kill him in their sleep.
Speaker 2 (01:00:37):
But you know where?
Where's the line?
Speaker 1 (01:00:41):
I don't know my line is for entertainment purposes.
Speaker 2 (01:00:45):
Where's the line?
My line looks like athunderbolt.
Your fence ain't fencing it,sure as heck ain't holding no
cattle, that's for sure keepyour cattle on your own side.
Speaker 1 (01:00:57):
I don't even know what that meant.
Let's get back to the subject,because I wanted to say that it
isn't just rap music or evenrock and roll music that can be
that disgusting.
There's country music, like youjust mentioned, that can be,
you know, pretty out there orsay some pretty disgusting
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things about either men or women.
Also, I'll be honest with you.
You know I'm a very spiritualperson.
I have a strong belief, butthere's some religious music out
there that I think ain'thappening.
Speaker 2 (01:01:32):
First of all, they're preaching the wrong thing.
Speaker 1 (01:01:35):
And secondly, the way you're preaching it makes it
seem like everything is stillokay and it's not, um, and so,
yeah, I I have some disgust forsome religious music or some
gospel music.
Speaker 2 (01:01:48):
Some of it just rubs me the wrong way because it
seems like um you have a veryintimate relationship with the
holy ghost.
Speaker 1 (01:01:58):
I do uh, I'm saying intimate in the wrong way.
Speaker 2 (01:01:59):
okay, like the way the songs some of the intimate
relationship with the Holy GhostI do.
I'm saying intimate in thewrong way.
Okay, like the way the songssome of the songs go.
It's like are we really talkingabout that?
Speaker 1 (01:02:08):
doesn't sound right.
Speaker 3 (01:02:11):
I mean, I don't know what you're referencing.
Speaker 2 (01:02:11):
Well, I don't even know some of the songs, but it's
like where you know they'll besinging about, like oh, he comes
at night and touches me deeply.
And I just just and it's likethey're talking about jesus and
it's like, please do not touchme deeply at night, jesus yeah,
I, I understand what you'resaying.
Speaker 1 (01:02:26):
I understand what you're saying.
What about you?
Can, they could use a wholedifferent so what about bands
like?
Kiss.
What about them?
Every song they had was abouttheir penises.
Speaker 2 (01:02:37):
Yes, yeah, well, I mean basically, I mean love gun.
Love Gun was a song about apenis.
Speaker 1 (01:02:43):
That's what Gene Simmons said.
He said every song we wrote wasabout our penises.
Speaker 2 (01:02:47):
I mean like, what about that?
You know, Was that cool for thekids?
Yes, he did say that.
Come on now.
Speaker 3 (01:02:53):
Give me one reference to she just did.
Speaker 2 (01:02:55):
Love.
Speaker 3 (01:02:55):
Gun no, no, no, no, no To Penis in the song Beth.
Speaker 1 (01:02:59):
It isn't.
Speaker 3 (01:03:00):
Give me one reference to.
Speaker 2 (01:03:01):
Penis.
Speaker 3 (01:03:05):
Beth, oh, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:03:06):
She doesn't know the lyrics.
Speaker 1 (01:03:07):
No, I don't know the lyrics.
Speaker 3 (01:03:10):
He was talking, he was just making headlines with
that he was.
But.
Speaker 1 (01:03:12):
Love.
Speaker 2 (01:03:13):
Gun was definitely about, about.
Speaker 1 (01:03:15):
Well, he made that comment and I thought I'd have
to think about that, because Idon't know the lyrics to all
your songs.
Yeah, I don't really knowwhether that's true or not.
Speaker 2 (01:03:22):
But I mean, you know, we can slip it in any way that
we want to, bazinga.
Anyways, you can put lyricshowever you want to and make
them, make them sound completelyinnocent, when in reality
(01:03:43):
you're talking about somethingelse or you can make them sound
something that really isn'tdirty or something that isn't
really, but then again it's yourchoice on what you listen to.
It's what your choice on what,what you spend your money on.
Well, back then, what you spentyour money on.
Now you just buy a streamingservice, you can listen to
whatever, but they get the likes, they get the shares, they get
the views.
So really it is your choice onon what you listen to.
(01:04:06):
But yeah, if these songs arecontinuing to top the charts,
you know, with WAP and thingslike that, there there's a
reason for it, there there's areason for it.
There's a reason for it.
It's not just money.
I'm talking about thedisconnect of people who do
listen to it from you know.
Maybe, maybe they I'm notsaying that they don't have
(01:04:28):
morals or values, but I'm sayingmaybe they can disconnect from
you know what they believe intheir real life and just enjoy
the song.
You know, maybe they like toget, you know, a little crazy in
their kitchen when they'redoing their dishes at 2 am.
Speaker 1 (01:04:41):
Maybe Type of thing, because I remember listening to
a rap song and I was likedancing to it or whatever.
And you came in and it was like, do you know what they're
saying?
And I go, no, I don't have aclue what they're saying.
And then you start telling me,and I don't even remember what
song it was, and it was like, ohmy gosh, but I liked the music,
(01:05:05):
right, right, I liked the tune.
And that's what sells yeah wasdone, and they found that a
substantial percentage of raplyrics, like 37 percent,
contains some form of misogyny,with variations depending on,
(01:05:27):
you know, the, the subgenre,genre, subgenre, subgenre, uh,
(01:05:57):
of the music, and so I can seethat, you know, I can see that.
I can see that because rap wasactually built on men.
It was built reducing women tomere objects or possessions,
which I hear a lot in rap music.
Speaker 2 (01:06:10):
I hear it a lot in all music.
Speaker 1 (01:06:13):
Probably Glorification of violence, which
seems to be growing.
And then I disagree.
Speaker 2 (01:06:22):
I disagree on that one.
Really I do.
I do Because back in the late80s, early 90s, the
glorification of violence in rapmusic was, I would say, at the
height because of what was goingon in the different coasts, la
and New York, and things likethat.
It was a lot worse back then,when I was a teenager.
(01:06:42):
It was a lot worse than it isnow.
Some of the rap lyrics now theykind of like I'm like whoa, you
know.
But I go back and I of course Istill listen to my oldies rap
music and I'm like wow, we werereally messed up back then.
Speaker 1 (01:06:56):
I mean, some shit was going down I was listening to a
really old song and I wastelling Dr Domain about it the
other day and I said do youremember this song?
And he goes yeah.
And I said have you ever reallykind of listened to the lyrics
to this?
Speaker 2 (01:07:10):
Wait, I want to know what song it was.
Speaker 1 (01:07:11):
I can't remember the name, but I'm going to kind of
sing it for you.
Okay, and it was like um it wasuh turn down your music
everybody Turn the volume down,turn the volume down.
Okay, turn this down, because Ising.
But he said uh, hey, little,something about hey little girl
Um.
I'm a man in a big sedan.
Won't you hop inside my car?
(01:07:32):
I got music candy.
I'm a lovable man.
I'll take you to the nearest,oh my.
Speaker 2 (01:07:37):
God, that is a pedophile trying to get a kid in
a car.
Speaker 1 (01:07:42):
But we, we sang that and I don't even remember.
Speaker 2 (01:07:44):
Was it a Jerry Lee Lewis song?
No, it sounds like a Jerry LeeLewis song.
Speaker 1 (01:07:47):
No, but there's another one by Rod Stewart that
he always creeped me out.
Speaker 2 (01:07:52):
He always creeped me out.
Speaker 1 (01:07:54):
Did you look it up, dr domain?
What was the name of that songdo?
Speaker 3 (01:07:57):
you remember?
No, I don't, but you know whatsong.
I know what song you're talkingabout.
Yeah, when you put it that way,you kind of listen to it.
Speaker 2 (01:08:03):
It was like oh my gosh, hey, little girl, you know
yeah, yeah, and there was a lotof them back then that were
considered, you know, like rockand roll back then, because it
wasn't as heavy as it is now.
Speaker 1 (01:08:15):
Yeah, and the lyrics were I got the hots for the
teacher.
Speaker 2 (01:08:19):
Yeah, like you, listen to it now and you're like
what the hell were these peopleon?
Well, it was cocaine, first ofall.
Everybody was on cocaine.
Speaker 1 (01:08:29):
But yeah, you just listen to the lyrics.
Speaker 2 (01:08:30):
They were on acid at 14.
Hey now.
Speaker 3 (01:08:32):
Hey now, that was like one of our very first
arguments.
We were driving, we weredriving, we were in Georgia and
I was listening to a song andman, she got upset do you
remember the song?
Speaker 1 (01:08:45):
no, is that the one about?
Speaker 3 (01:08:47):
was it WAPS?
Stacy's mom has got it going on, oh yeah.
I mean seriously, listen, shegot all analytical and serious
about it shut up she was reallyjust harsh in my me.
Speaker 1 (01:09:00):
I just wanted to listen to this.
Speaker 3 (01:09:01):
She was really just kind of harsh and mellow.
I was just really trying toenjoy the song and of course he
tries to justify why a?
Speaker 1 (01:09:06):
12 or 13-year-old boy would have hives for Jesse's
mom.
Well, they're coming into theirown.
It's normal.
Blah, blah, blah, you littleperverted creep.
Speaker 2 (01:09:15):
That's like.
Speaker 3 (01:09:16):
That'd be like her I'll vote it two to one.
Speaker 2 (01:09:18):
That would be like her being in the car when I
start listening to uh, scottydoesn't know the song, scotty
doesn't know she would lose hershit.
I'm not even joking, like itwould be bad, probably would it
probably you probably would yeah, and what's funny is that song
was not actually a song.
It was a song that was writtenonly for a band to play in a
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movie.
And it became such a big hitthat it Figures yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:09:45):
Yep, but I've exposed you to a lot of good music.
Speaker 1 (01:09:49):
Oh yeah, like what was the one about going down the
river on a shithouse door.
What is that?
Speaker 3 (01:09:55):
What was that?
Oh, mojo Nixon, me and yourmama and some other whore
Floating down the river on ashithouse door.
Speaker 2 (01:10:02):
Oh, but rap is the problem.
But rap is the problem.
I didn't say.
Speaker 1 (01:10:05):
I said it's in all the music.
Speaker 3 (01:10:07):
But she sat and listened to it.
Speaker 1 (01:10:09):
Oh, he's got some of the most disgusting music of
these hillbillies, I blew myballs to my butthole.
Speaker 2 (01:10:16):
Oh man, what was that ?
What was the name of that oneband that had all messed up
songs?
Like they were the mostunhinged songs I've ever heard
in my life, oh, I'm sure it'ssomething that's on his playlist
.
It is it's gotta be God.
What was their name?
Speaker 1 (01:10:29):
What is it?
What is it?
Dr Domain it was like early 80s.
Speaker 2 (01:10:35):
Oh my god, I'm gonna have to think about this and get
back to you because red peters,no, no, okay no, who's that
other one that I, him and hisdog named?
Speaker 1 (01:10:44):
stains no who's the one that's with his wife and
they?
Speaker 2 (01:10:52):
say probably the whole town.
Speaker 1 (01:10:53):
No, I mean uh his last name starts with a p, I
think Prine, prine.
Yes, bobby, I know you'velistened to that.
Speaker 2 (01:11:02):
I've listened to.
Primus what are we talkingabout?
Speaker 1 (01:11:05):
John Prime he's a legend, anyway, back to the
point you know some of the musicthat's clean music, he's more
folky.
Well, which?
Speaker 2 (01:11:17):
part is not clean riding down the river on the
shithouse that's mojo.
Speaker 3 (01:11:24):
That's mojo, nixon.
I'm talking about john prine.
Speaker 1 (01:11:27):
He's a good singer he is, and it's just I don't know,
he's got some funny stuff it isfunny, it is, it is funny, so,
um, that's probably all I hadfor today.
Bobby, did you have some moreon any music that you um?
Speaker 2 (01:11:40):
looked into?
Um, I don't.
The only thing I can say isplease don't support the people
who sex traffic and pedophile umyoung women and men in the
industry, because I don't carehow good their music is, it's
not worth it I agree, it's notworth it.
So, yeah, I do think that thatis all the insanity and bitchery
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that mom has today about music.
Speaker 1 (01:12:03):
Oh my gosh, that hurt my feeling.
Speaker 2 (01:12:06):
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Speaker 1 (01:12:37):
We'll make it into a rap song there we go.
Speaker 2 (01:12:39):
We'll drop a diss track.
There we go, so until next week.
I'm Bobbi Joy and I'm Jane Bird, and you're stuck with us.
Peace out Later.
glory be.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
I haven't even done anything oh shit I just put the
card in so okay, well, if he'syour age, yeah, that's like if
he was older I guess I couldgive him a little bit of a pass.
But if you hug me and you makeany kind of weird noise, that's
the last time I'm hugging youwell, like I said, he wanted
more, he's my same age, like Isaid he wanted more.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
How old is he?
He's my same age.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Well, how do you know he wanted more?
Was it just the hugs?
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Because he kept asking me out and I would say
and I'm not going to use hisname, but I would say you know,
we're neighbors and we're justfriends, and I really don't want
to you friend-zoned him.
I did, but he didn't reallywork that way, he's got nice
property.
He's obviously got money, sowhat was the?
Speaker 2 (00:48):
issue.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
He just wasn't for me Winking at you.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
What's the issue?
He made two of the threecriteria.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
I'm just a poor white child, he's not a bad.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
He's a hard worker.
I will say that he worked forDOT, but he also ran.
They call him Joe Dirt.
Oh, don't record that.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Oh, don't record that , Like she can't edit it.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
But anyway.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Hey, we're live.
This is our first live podcast.
This is our first live.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
I'm live on TikTok right now, just so you know.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
You better stop it.
You better stop it.
Where's my stuff?
Oh, for the love of god, forthe love of god, how long are
you welcome?
Speaker 2 (01:37):
oh, my goodness shut up, bobby.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Welcome everyone.
Shut up, bobby.
Welcome everyone to today'sshow.
Boomer and a Gen X are walkingto a bar, coming to you from the
rabbit hole studio, where you,as our listeners, will
experience some wit and wisdom,some smartassery and a mother
and a daughter questioning arewe even related, especially
(02:00):
today?
My name is Jane Burt, myco-host is my daughter, bobby,
and for the next few minuteswe're probably gonna banter and
argue, most likely because ourtopic is one that is very
conflicting with the two of us,but I couldn't get her to shut
up and one of us couldn't getour crap together.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Oh my goodness, how do?
I open this.
Where's my stuff that I use allthe time?
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Get off my junk, please, please.
So, bobby, how are you anyway?
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Oh you know, it's hot , corn sweats, 60 mile an hour
wind, it's Iowa, it's greatTriple digits, you know, but you
know what the Iowa State Fairis going on in Iowa, one of the
biggest, greatest state fairs.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
And before we get on to our topic, I disagree.
I know you don't go though God.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
I hate it, I know, but you don't even go.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
So if you don't like big crowds, don't go.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Don't.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
But here's the other thing Back in the day, the state
fair and the county fairs wereactually developed for farmers
to come in and show their cattle, show their horses, show their
sheep.
That part's cool, it is cool.
And to look at uh equipment,you know, tractors and all kinds
(03:15):
of newest top of the lineequipment exactly yeah exactly,
you go to the iowa state fairnow and, uh, you got a whole lot
of eating going on well,because I like that part all
there is.
I like that there's there's somerides and and don't get me
wrong there's some good showsand the iowa state fair.
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They always say, oh, thetickets are so much, what are
they?
15 dollars or something Iwouldn't know, but there's so
many free shows, and that's whatmakes the ticket price go up is
there are a lot of free showsand they have grandstand
concerts and they bring in somegood names.
I mean Pitbull was here and youknow they've had some really
(03:57):
good acts here.
So anyway, I do like the StateFair, I do not, and it is in.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Iowa right now.
Listen, I love the food, I lovethe actual like animal shows,
things like that, but when itlike the midway rides, I do not
trust anything that comes out ofa suitcase.
Okay, you pull a ride out of asuitcase and chalk it with some,
you know, two by fours and somecinder blocks and the guy who's
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supposed to be inspecting theerection of these is on his
phone, not even looking aspeople are putting them at once.
Yeah, his hair gone.
You know it's fine,everything's fine, but it is I
mean, I still go.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
We go a couple times a year and we walk around and we
people watch because we love todo that.
Um, I used to eat at the statefair.
I don't think we ate anythingat the state fair last year
maybe we ate one thing, but alot of people, that's all they
go for scandalous.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
It was some weird recommend.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
It was something and I didn't like it.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Oh man the turkey legs, the deep fried oreos.
Corn dogs, the corn dogs, thehomemade that fried ribs, the
homemade root beer is got to beup at the top.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
I mean it's amazing.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
But yeah, even the food lately has been really
declining because a lot of theold vendors have backed out yeah
, they have.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
And the one that I used to go to.
It was an italian sausagesandwich.
Yeah, the guinea grinders, yeah, and she died and they closed
down.
They just said, no, we're notgoing to do it anymore.
The whole family said no, notdoing it anymore and travesty I
don't even, I don't even buyanything out there anymore.
But I will say this, you know,because iowa people are so um
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malnutrited and, um, you know,are so thin so thin that they
run out of the scooter rentalsat the courtesy desk at the fair
every year by 9 am.
Yeah, Do you have an illness ora condition, or are you just?
I don't know tired and fat.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
I need to be able to carry my 10 turkey legs as I go,
so I'm going to need a scooter.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
It's fun to kind of go and watch, but it does make
you sad because we are a societyof overweight people.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
That's not news.
Did you hear that this yearthey're doing some kind of
experimental part in the foodarea?
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Really yeah, are you just blowing smoke, is it a
scale?
Speaker 3 (06:18):
It's just a big trough, oh, okay.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
I thought it was like a big trucker scale that you
have to go across before you cango buy something.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
No, but they did used to have that guy in the midway.
Who would guess?
Your weight and they don't dothat anymore.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
I don't know, people got a little sensitive and it's
like oh, I guess they neverguessed my age or weight
correctly, so I always won andthen they always have the guy
who you throw the ball and dunkhim.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Yeah, oh my gosh, he was so mouthy that they won't
let him come back now.
They don't have that anymore.
He was so funny what a bunch ofsnowflakes oh, just a bunch of
cry baby, wah-wah, creepers, Idon't know, I just.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
But anyway, that's not even our topic, any who's's,
any who's.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
Today we are going to talk about music.
Music and, yeah, is there acertain genre that you like the
best, or do you like all music,or what do you think there?
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Bobby, the best.
No, actually I literally myplaylist goes from one end of
the spectrum to the other and itgoes all decades all to the
other, and it goes all decadesall.
I mean.
I listened to everything from,you know, the original Hank
Williams and Patsy Cline tounsigned artists that I've heard
on TikTok yeah, I do too, and Ilove some of the new songs that
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you get off a tip TikTok, ohyeah and a lot of artists.
That's where they're beginningnow, because they're coming up.
You know as unsigned theyrecord it.
You know whether it's in theirbedroom or even just on their
phone doesn't it blow your mindhow talented some of these
people?
Speaker 1 (07:50):
oh man, it's crazy, not only their vocals, but their
ability to play all theseinstruments, and I mean, I have
a hard time playing a broom or ashovel well, that's obvious.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
But yeah, yeah, no, it is, and it's.
It's great that they have thatplatform now, because, instead
of going through what a lot ofthe artists have had to go
through and that includes, um,you know, being oh, what's the
word I'm looking for where youknow they're abused, they're
used, they're um demeaned andeven, you know, sometimes
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assaulted.
They have to pay a price.
Yeah, they don't have to paythis price anymore.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Right, and I think that's first of all.
It's horrible.
What you know, you think backof what?
Like Justin Bieber, I trulybelieve that kid.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
That poor kid.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
I just feel sorry for him.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
And he's not the only one.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
There's a lot of them that went through this and it
just it really does just kind ofbreak your heart thinking about
it.
But you know, hopefully yeah,these folks don't have to go
through that type of rigor andthat you listen to.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
It might not be so much of a thing, but are you
able to separate the artist fromthe art?
Like you know, things like RKelly, p Diddy, things like that
.
If you like their music and youfind out that they have done
something that these guys havedone, are you able to continue
to support their music or listento their music while still
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hating the artist?
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Some of it I can.
Really Some of it I can.
Yeah Well, I mean I don't hatethe artist, but first of all, I
never listened to P Diddy.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Well, I know that I was trying to bring up some
scandals that are recent, butit's a good example, but I don't
know of anybody that was in areal bad.
Jerry Lee Lewis.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Jerry Lee Lewis, yeah .
I mean, you'll still listen tohis music, even though you know
now.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Elvis Presley yes Pink.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Pink, I will not listen to her anymore.
What?
No, I will not.
Nope, she pissed me off.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Well.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Pissed me off in the last election when she said if
you voted republican, stopworking for well, I'm listening
now wait a minute I'm sure she'slistening to my music and I
thought well, fuck you, excuseme we're not editing that out
we're not editing that out, youknow I mean first of you know I
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mean.
First of all, this is America.
I don't care who you vote for.
Vote for whomever you want tovote for.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
That's what it's all about right, but then again,
this is America and she has theright to say that, and I have
the right to listen to her musicor not.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
I love Pink.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
I of pink.
I don't anymore what they saypolitically.
I don't give a crap what yourpolitical association is.
Now, when it comes to sextrafficking, things like that,
abuses like that, especiallywhen it comes to minors, things
like that, people who areunderprivileged, I will never
even look the way of one of youralbums again.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Really screw off, man yeah, I, you know, I guess
again I never liked p diddy.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
I never liked p diddy , tupac and them, absolutely.
He you know he was on that um.
He was on trial for shootingthe cops, yeah.
Was on trial for murder, yeahman I still listen to him.
I love those guys I don't.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
I mean, don't get me wrong I mean, when pink said
that it just made me mad, itwasn't like oh, you know.
To be honest, like I said, Idon't care who you vote for.
I really and truly don't.
That's your right in America.
Just let me vote for who I wantto.
But if you're going to tell medon't listen to your music
anymore, okay, I'll oblige.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
What about the Cowards formerly known as the
Dixie Chicks?
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Oh, the Chixie Dix.
They're just the chicks.
Now, they're just the Chicks.
I like some of their music.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
I love their music.
I am not a.
Natalie.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Baines fan, but I will tell you I like some Of
their music she was a neighborwhen I Lived in Texas oh yeah,
she was your neighbor, she waskind of nasty.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
She was a mean girl.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Well, now I've met One of mom's neighbor when I
lived in texas.
Oh yeah, she was your neighbor.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
She was kind of nasty .
Yeah, she was a mean girl well,now I've met one of mom's um.
I don't know if she stillidolizes her, but I know that
she did.
At one time I actually met herface to face and she was the
biggest bitch I've ever met inmy life.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Reba mcintyre, oh you know what's her heart?
I used to really love her andthen she got a tv show and I
thought, stand down yeah, staywith your music.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Well, when I worked out at the airport.
She's doing really goodcommercials now, though.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Now she's doing commercials, but when I worked
out at the airport I met quite afew acts that would come in for
the state fair yeah, yeah um,because I was actually.
I would clean airplanes outthere in the private sector, and
so I met people like alan jack.
That man is gold we should haveprotected him at all costs.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
I met him so.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
I dated that guy from Signature.
Yeah, that's how I had my job,remember that's right yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
And so I met Helen Hunt, I met ACDC.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
Yeah, acdc was out there.
What song does Helen Hunt sing?
She doesn't, she's an actress.
I thought we were talking aboutmusic.
What song does Helen Hunt sing?
She doesn't, she's an actress.
Oh, I thought we were talkingabout music.
No, no, no, no, no, we'retalking about famous people at
this point.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
But no.
Reba McEntire I really did likeher music a lot.
Now I guess I've just grown outof it and I really didn't like
her TV shows at all.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
I thought stick to what you know have passion for
of hers.
But yeah, when I met her, Imean and I was just a kid, I was
what like 12, 13 at the timeworking out there yeah, I mean
yeah and alan jackson, and hejust had a heart of gold man.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
I mean just a great guy, but yeah I mean tim mcgraw,
I think, came to McGraw.
Yeah, yeah, super nice.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
But it's like you know, it's the ability to
differentiate, and there arejust some things that I think
are unforgivable.
I don't care how good yourmusic is, I don't care how
popular you are, I don't carehow good you look, if you commit
some of these acts, then you'redead.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
To me, you commit some of these acts, then you're
dead to me like I will neverever if I hear a song on the
radio.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
I flip it if I see.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
You know things, I I cannot forgive some things yeah,
there's some I do, but for themost part I really, you know, I
do separate the songs and theartists from what they actually
so can you separate the lyricsand the artist?
Yeah, I think I have have you.
Yeah, in a lot of cases.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
Some people can't.
Yeah, some people get firedover it.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Some people do, oh, absolutely.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
There was one executive that was singing along
to one of those songs.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Drop the N-word.
Yeah, and he got fired and it'slike what?
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (14:43):
How does that I mean?
Speaker 1 (14:45):
I think that is crap.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
I think it's absolute crap.
Because even when my kids wereyounger I would always say look,
if it's in the song, if it's acuss word, you're allowed to
sing it.
I'm sorry, if it's on the radioand it's a cuss word or
whatever, and it's in the song,are you allowed to go around
saying that cuss word?
Absolutely not.
But if you're singing it andit's in the song and it's
justified but here's the otherthing.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Here's the other thing.
Wasn't that song playing in thestudio?
Speaker 3 (15:12):
he wasn't playing it he was, he was singing along to
it, he was singing along to itbeing played in the studio.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Right, if they were that worried about it.
What are you doing playing thatkind of music in the studio?
Speaker 2 (15:23):
he doesn't get a free pass oh, isn't that horse crap?
Speaker 1 (15:27):
I mean, it's just horse crap.
So anyway, standard yeah yeah,so I think that's a good
question.
Can you separate yourself fromwhat someone has done?
Speaker 2 (15:37):
you know yeah or said , or the lyrics that are in some
of their songs.
Um, because I know the bigcontroversy when I was a young
and budding teen I would say Iwas like 13, 14 years old Long
time ago, snoop Doggy Doggreleased an album called Doggy
Style, and it was one of themost scandalous things that had
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happened to white folks sincesince slavery ended.
I swear to God, these peoplewere up in arms.
Wait a minute.
We were happy slavery ended.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
I swear to god, these people were up in arms.
Wait a minute.
We were happy, slavery ended.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Oh, yeah, no, but I'm saying it's, it's the biggest
scandal since that happened,because I remember all my
friends were like, oh, my momhas banned that album, you know?
Because the lyrics, because ofhow he talks things me.
I'm bumping it in my room likeI'm like I just walked down to
the record store and bought room.
Like I'm like I just walkeddown to the record store and
bought one.
Like I I don't know what you'retalking about well, there is.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
uh, I will say there's a lot of music that I
just flat out won't listen to,and it's because it's degrading.
And so I like rap music.
I like the beat.
Bobby bobby just about chokedon her chicken down there, or
choked her chicken, I don't know.
I do like some rap musicbecause I like the beat.
(16:51):
I think I'm still cool, youknow, I like the beat.
I like the beat, I like thebeat Shush.
But there is some music that Ireally just flat out won't
listen to.
If every other word is the Fword if're talking about, you
know their wap, um, I'm notinterested in any of that.
Uh, you know, dr domain isconfused.
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We'll tell you later what thatis um, and you know so, some of
the dispute, of course, in rapmusic has to do with misogyny
and, uh, just really kind ofdefined as the dislike of, or
contempt for, or ingrainedprejudice against, either a
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certain type of people or women,and primarily it's women, yeah,
and the saddest part, I think,is you have women who are saying
these things too, and I, I am afirm believer that you don't do
that to other people, first ofall, and you definitely don't do
it woman to woman.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
You know, if you want to call somebody a name, go
call them a name, but I don'treally need it and well, and the
irony of that is, you know, alot of the rappers talk about
how they were, excuse me, howthey were raised by single
mothers and then they come onthese rap albums and talk about
women that way, yeah, and it'skind of I get it, because a lot
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of it is necessity of industry.
This is what's selling, this iswhat, um, the record label is
looking for, type of thing, buta lot of it is their choice
because, I mean, I turned you onto tom mcdonald quite a few,
yeah, years ago.
I like it and it's crazy thatyou like it.
And eminem, yeah, I love eminemand they.
Eminem was one of the mostdegrading human beings to women
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he was when he first came outand his daughter started getting
older.
You hated him.
You hated me listening to him.
You hated me showing yourgrandchildren him like we would
you know, bump him in the carthe whole time.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
But the older his daughter and the older his
daughter got and the morerespect he had for his daughter
and he wanted respect for her.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
He doesn't respect his ex-wife and I completely
understand but, um, yeah, I mean, it's a lot of it is.
It's what's selling.
It's what the industry isasking for.
It's what is selling You'reright, it's what's making money.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
And it all boils down to what the green is all about
right Follow the money and youknow some of the rap lyrics.
So in videos and other elementsof that kind of music I was
going to say object toobjectivity, no, no, okay, try
it again.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Objectification, there we go.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Or exploitation.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
I'll say that I can say that Okay.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
I get a gold star today.
Or victimization of women and,um, you know, like I said, I
think the saddest part is whenyou hear women say it to women,
you know.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
Or degrade other women you don't like a woman,
Walk away.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
You know we've talked about that before, but it can
manifest in a lot of differentways and you know, in a lot of
the videos and I have seenplenty where it depicts women
who are doing some prettyhorrible things.
You don't have to do that.
I mean not on a video, right,but it is exactly what you said.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Follow the so she just really aged herself because
mtv has not music has not hadmusic videos in probably like 25
years, whatever.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
What are the?
What do you call them?
Tiktoks?
Speaker 2 (20:24):
well, no, I mean, they're music videos they are,
but I mean, you have to gosearch them out anymore to see
them.
Like, if somebody drops a musicvideo, you've got to go on
YouTube, you've got to go on Evo, things like that, in order to
see them.
Because back then we had VH1.
We had MTV, we had CMT.
All they did was show musicvideos, and now we don't have
that anymore.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Yeah, but it isn't just rap music, no.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
What about the actions?
Not just their lyrics, but what?
Speaker 1 (20:51):
they do the actions I think are pretty disgusting.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
So you would stop listening to someone if they did
something repulsive?
Speaker 1 (20:58):
If they were super repulsive, like let's see yeah,
super repulsive.
Put a cape on it.
I'm going to test.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Put a cape on it.
It's super.
Now Put a cap on that thing.
Like what Sex pistols?
I love the sex pistols.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
So you know, he broke a bottle open and cut his chest
open with a broken beer bottle.
That said I need a fix.
In front of all these kids, infront of everybody in the
audience.
Is that something that I wouldreally advocate?
The answer is no.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
So you stopped listening to the sex pist, stop
listening to ask mom about, um,the time I got grounded for, uh,
the marilyn manson concert whatdid marilyn manson do?
What didn't, what didn't he do,but what, what?
Speaker 3 (21:43):
okay, I want to hear that, but what about?
Like this can be kind ofcontroversial to our listeners
because everyone's, everyone'sgetting into the aussie band
bandwagon.
I do like ozzy, I think he's.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
He was a great he thought it was a fake bat okay,
we're not going down the batroad, go ahead.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
Dr domain so I that was one of the big regrets of my
life's not going to thatconcert oh man, I wish I could
have been there.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
so yeah, because he did that here in iowa.
Yeah, it was in des moinesactually Back in 82 when he did
that and he got banned from DesMoines.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
So when he did that, did you stop listening to Ozzy?
No, what about when he pissedon the Alamo?
Did you stop listening to himthen, Uh-uh, so it's not super
offensive.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Right, it's certain things.
I mean.
His lyrics weren't thatoffensive, I guess, towards
women?
Speaker 3 (22:29):
I'm not talking about lyrics.
I was talking about actions.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
No, I'm saying his actions were offensive, but they
weren't offensive Like you knowyou're, you know, having sex
acts with somebody on stage, oryou're pretending like you're
having sex acts or eatingsomebody, or I hate that, I just
said that on the air, orcutting yourself open and
bleeding into the crowd.
Um, having references to kids,you know, uh, doing those types
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of acts, that that is a that's adone deal for me.
Sorry, what?
Speaker 3 (23:03):
He's given me that.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
look, he's given me this.
I'm just trying to understandthe boundaries here.
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
My parameters are weird.
I mean, I don't know theparameters.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
My boundaries are weird, I mean, I don't know.
So self-mutilation is offlimits.
Not to me oh okay, we got ourboundaries.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
That's why she's at that end of the Chewing the head
off the basket.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
Pissing on the Alamo is okay.
We can do all that right Ididn't say.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Does it mean that I approve of that?
No, I didn't approve of thatDid I think it was disgusting?
Yeah, I thought it wasdisgusting, but you know you're
asking me two differentquestions, so there, I
understand, but I'm just tryingto get to the limits.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
Where are the limits he's trying?
Speaker 2 (23:46):
to draw the line around in your fence.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
Bobby's boundary is much further down the field.
My fence is like trying to herdkittens.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
It can't happen.
Okay, so you have an issue withthe lyrics that degrade to mean
women, things like that.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Even men.
Now I mean, I really do Okayblah blah blah Anyways.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
What about the hit song that was about killing your
husband and burying him withyour friends?
Speaker 1 (24:18):
earl's gotta die, baby yeah, well, um wasn't it
garth brooks, it had the onewhere uh the thunder rolls.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
No, the thunder rolls yeah, it was the extended
version where she went into thebedroom, got the gun and then no
there's another one where hetakes a semi through the motel.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Yeah, yeah, that was all okay.
But I mean, but I'm asking you,but I'm asking you is it is
earl okay, is no?
Speaker 2 (24:42):
he's dead well, no, I know he's dead.
I'm saying for you obviouslyhe's dead you know the song very
well because all I had to saywas the parameters you knew.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
I knew exactly what you're talking about.
Listen, I've said it before ifa man ever beat me up, I'd kill
him in their sleep.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
But you know where?
Where's the line?
Speaker 1 (25:03):
I don't know my line is for entertainment purposes.
Where's the line my?
Speaker 2 (25:09):
line looks like a thunderbolt, your fancy fence,
and it sure as heck ain'tholding no cattle, that's for
sure so keep your cattle on yourown side.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
I don't even know what that meant.
Let's get back to the subject,because I wanted to say that it
isn't just rap music or evenrock and roll music that can be
that disgusting.
There's country music, like youjust mentioned, that can be,
you know, pretty out there orsay some pretty disgusting
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things about either men or women.
Also, I'll be honest with you.
You know I'm a very spiritualperson.
I have a strong belief, belief.
But there's some religiousmusic out there that I think
ain't happening first of all,they're preaching the wrong
thing.
And secondly, um, the way you'repreaching it makes it seem like
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everything is still okay andit's not.
Um, and so, yeah, I I have somedisgust for some religious
music or some gospel music.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Some of it just rubs me the wrong way, because it
seems like you have a veryintimate relationship with the
Holy Ghost.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
I do.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
I'm saying intimate in the wrong way.
Okay, like the way the songs,some of the songs go.
It's like are we really talkingabout uh?
Speaker 3 (26:30):
that doesn't like what I mean I don't know.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
I don't even know some of the songs, but it's like
where you know they'll besinging about like, oh, he comes
at night and touches me deeplyand I just and it's like they're
talking about jesus and it'slike please do not touch me
deeply at night, jesus yeah, I,I understand what you're saying.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
I understand what you're saying you can, they
could use a whole different sowhat about bands like kiss?
What about them?
Every song they had was abouttheir penises.
Yes, yeah, well, I meanbasically I mean love gun.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
Love gun was a song about about.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
That's what gene simmons said.
He said every song we wrote wasabout our penis yeah, I mean.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
What about that?
You know, was that cool for thekids?
Yes, he did say that Come onnow, give me one reference.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
Give me one reference to.
She just did Love Gun.
No, no, no, no, no, oh To penisin the song Beth.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
It isn't.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
Give me one oh you can't think of one.
See, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
She doesn't know the lyrics.
No, I don't know the lyrics.
He was talking.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
He was just making headlines with that.
He was yeah, but Love.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
God was definitely about.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
Oh, yeah, Well, he made that comment and I thought
I'd have to think about that,because I don't know the lyrics
to all your songs so I don'treally know whether that know.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
We can slip it in any way that we want to bazinga
anyways, you can put lyricshowever you want to and make
them, make them sound completelyinnocent, when in reality
you're talking about somethingelse or you can make them sound
something that really isn'tdirty, or something that really
isn't dirty, or something thatisn't really, but then again
it's your choice on what youlisten to.
It's what your choice on what,what you spend your money on.
Well, back then, what you spentyour money on.
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Now you just buy a streamingservice.
You can listen to whatever, butthey get the likes, they get
the shares, they get the views.
So really it is your choice onon you listen to.
But yeah, if these songs arecontinuing to top the charts,
you know with WAP and thingslike that, there's a reason for
it.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
There's a reason for it.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
It's not just money.
I'm talking about thedisconnect of people who do
listen to it from you know,maybe they I'm not saying that
they don't have morals or values, but I'm saying maybe they can
disconnect from you know whatthey believe in their real life
and just enjoy the song.
You know, maybe they like toget you know a little crazy in
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their kitchen when they're doingtheir dishes at 2 am maybe type
of thing, because I rememberlistening to a rap song and I
was like dancing to it orwhatever.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
And you came in and it was like, do you know what
they're saying?
And I go, no, I don't, I don'thave a clue what they're saying.
And then you start telling meand I I don't even remember what
song it was it was like, oh mygosh, but I liked the music,
right, right, I liked the, Iliked the tune and that's what
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sells?
Yeah, but according to Wikipedia, an analysis was done and they
found that a substantialpercentage of rap lyrics, like
37%, contained some form ofmisogyny, with variations
depending on, you know, ofmisogyny with variations
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depending on, you know, the thesubgenre, genre, subgenre,
subgenre, uh, of the music, andso I can see that.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
You know, I can see that because rap um was actually
built on men right built on thebacks of men right because
there wasn't a lot of women inrap um early on and some of the
objections that they listed inthis analysis indicated.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
You know, depicting women as sexual objects, um.
Stereotyping, kind ofreinforcing the negative or
harmful stereotypes about women.
Dehumanization, uh, reducingwomen to mere objects or
possessions, which I hear a lotin rap music I hear it a lot in
all music probably glorificationof violence, which is seems to
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be growing, and then, um, yeah,I disagree.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
I disagree on that one.
Really I do.
I do because back in the late80s, early 90s, the
glorification of violence andrap music was, I would say, at
the height because of what wasgoing on in the different coasts
, la and New York, and thingslike that.
It was a lot worse back thenwhen I was a teenager.
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It was a lot worse than it isnow, lot worse than it is now.
Some of the rap lyrics now theykind of like I'm like whoa, you
know.
But I go back and I of course Istill listen to my oldies rap
music and I'm like, wow, we werereally messed up back then.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
I mean, some shit was going down I was listening to a
really old song and I wastelling dr domain about it the
other day and I said do youremember this song?
And he goes yeah.
And I said have you ever reallykind of listened to the lyrics
to this?
Wait, I want to know what songit was.
I can't remember the name, butI'm going to kind of sing it for
you.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
And it was like um okay it was uh turn down your
music.
Everybody turn the volume down,the volume down, okay turn this
down, because I might sing.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
But he said uh, hey little little, something about
hey little girl.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
That, right there, I'm a man in a big sedan.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
Won't you hop inside my car?
I got music Candy.
I'm a lovable man.
I'll take you to the neareststar.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
Oh my God, that is a pedophile trying to get a kid in
a car.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
But we sang that and I don't even remember, was it a
Jerry Lee Lewis song?
Speaker 2 (32:08):
No, it sounds like a Jerry Lee Lewis song.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
No, but there's another one by Rod Stewart.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
Oh, he always creeped me out, he always creeped me
out.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
Did you look it up, dr Domain, what was the name of
that song?
Speaker 3 (32:20):
Do you remember?
No, I don't.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
But you know what song I'm talking about?
Yeah, and there was a lot ofthem back then that were
considered, you know, like rockand roll back then, because it
wasn't as heavy as it is now.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
Yeah.
And the lyrics were just like,or I got the hots for the
teacher.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Yeah, like you, listen to it now and you're like
, what the hell were thesepeople on?
Well, it was cocaine.
First of all, everybody was oncocaine.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
But um, yeah, you just listen to the lyrics 14 hey
, now, hey, that was like one ofour very first arguments.
We were um driving, we were ingeorgia and I was listening to a
song and man, she got upsetwhat do you remember?
Speaker 1 (33:08):
the song no, no, is that the one about?
Speaker 3 (33:10):
Was it WAPS?
Speaker 1 (33:11):
No.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
Stacey's mom has got a habit going on.
Oh yeah, and I'm like I go.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
do you know what I mean?
Seriously listen, she got allanalytical and serious about a
nice one Shut up.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
I just wanted to listen to this she was really
just kind of harsh and mellow.
I was just really trying toenjoy the song and of course he
tries to justify why a?
Speaker 1 (33:29):
12 or 13 year old boy would have hives for Jesse's
mom.
Well, they're coming into theirown, it's normal A little
perverted creep that would belike her being in the car when,
I
Speaker 2 (33:43):
start listening to Scotty Doesn't Know the song
Scotty Doesn't Know she wouldlose her shit.
I'm not even joking, like itwould be probably would it
probably you probably would yeah, and what's funny is that song
was not actually a song.
It was a song that was writtenonly for a band to play in a
movie and it.
It became such a big hit thatit figures yeah, yep but I've
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exposed you to a lot of goodmusic.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
Oh yeah, like what was the one about going down the
river on a shithouse door.
What is that?
Speaker 3 (34:18):
What was that?
Oh, mojo Nixon, me and yourmama and some other whore
Floating down the river on ashithouse door.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
Oh, but rap is the problem.
Rap is the problem.
I didn't say.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
I said it's in all the music.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
But she sat and listened to it.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
Oh, he's got some of the most disgusting music of
these hillbillies.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
I blew my balls to my butthole.
Oh man, what was that?
What was the name of that oneband that had all messed up
songs Like they were the mostunhinged songs I've ever?
Speaker 1 (34:46):
heard in my life.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
Oh, I'm sure it's something that's on his playlist
.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
It is.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
It's got to be God.
What was their name?
Speaker 1 (34:52):
What is it?
What is it Dr Domain?
It was like early 80s, I don'tknow.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
Maybe mid 80s?
Oh, my God, I'm going to haveto think about this and get back
to you, because Was it RedPeters?
Speaker 3 (35:03):
No, the dog named.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
Staines?
No, who's the one that's?
Speaker 2 (35:15):
with his wife, probably the whole town.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
No, I mean His last name starts with a P, I think
Prine, prine.
Yes, bobby, I know you'velistened to that.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
I've listened to Primus.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
What are we talking?
Speaker 3 (35:27):
about yeah, john Prine, he's a legend.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
I've never heard that .
I've listened to Primus.
What are we talking about?
Yeah, john Prine, he's a legend.
I've never heard that, anywayback to the point.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
You know some of the music.
That's clean music, he's morefolky, is it that?
Speaker 3 (35:41):
Well which part is not clean?
Speaker 2 (35:43):
Riding down the river on a shithouse door.
No, no, no.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
That's Mojo.
That's Mojo Nixon.
I'm talking about John Prine.
He's a good singer.
He is and it's just I don'tknow, he's got some funny stuff
it is funny.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
It is, it is funny.
So that's probably all I hadfor today.
Bobby, did you have some moreon any music that you?
Speaker 2 (36:03):
looked into?
I don't.
The only thing I can say isplease don't support the people
who sex traffic and pedophile umyoung women and men in the
industry, because I don't carehow good their music is, it's
not worth it.
It's not worth it so yeah, I dothink that that is all the
insanity and uh bitchery thatmom has today about music that
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hurt my feeling.
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Speaker 3 (37:00):
So until next week, we'll make it into a rap song.
There we go.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
We'll drop a diss track.
There we go.
So until next week, I'm BobbiJoy and I'm Jane Bird, and
you're stuck with us.
Peace out Later.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
Where's my stuff?
Oh for the love of God, boo Boo.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
Boo Boo.
For the love of God, how longare you going to be away?
Speaker 1 (37:31):
Welcome.
Oh my goodness, shut up, bobby.
Welcome everyone to today'sshow.
Boomer and a Gen X are walkingto a bar, coming to you from the
rabbit hole studio, where you,as our listeners, will
experience some wit and wisdom,some smart assery and a mother
and a daughter questioning arewe even related, especially
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today?
My name is Jane Burt, myco-host is my daughter, bobby,
and for the next few minuteswe're probably going to banter
and argue, most likely Becauseour topic is one that is very
conflicting with the two of us,but I couldn't get her to shut
up and one of us couldn't getour crap together.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
Oh my goodness how do I?
Open this.
Where's my stuff?
Get off my all the time get offmy junk, please, please.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
So um, bobby, how are you anyway?
Speaker 2 (38:22):
Oh, you know, it's hot, corn sweats, 60 mile an
hour wind, it's Iowa, it's great, triple digits, you know.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
But you know what.
The Iowa State Fair is going onin Iowa, one of the biggest,
greatest state fairs.
And before we get on to ourtopic, I disagree.
I know you don't go though God.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
I hate it, I know, but you don't even go.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
So if you don't like big crowds, don't go.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
Don't.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
But here's the other thing Back in the day the state
fair and the county fairs wereactually developed for farmers
to come in and show their cattle, show their horses, show their
sheep.
That part's cool, it is cool.
And to look at uh, equipment,you know, tractors and all kinds
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of newest top of the lineequipment exactly yeah exactly,
you go to the iowa state fairnow and, uh, you got a whole lot
of eating going on well,because I like that part all
there is I like that there'sthere's some rides and, don't
get me wrong, there's some goodshows and the Iowa State Fair.
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they always say, oh, the ticketsare so much.
What are they?
$15 or?
Speaker 2 (39:32):
something I wouldn't know.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
But there's so many free shows, and that's what
makes the ticket price go up isthere are a lot of free shows
and they have grandstand umconcerts and they bring in some
good names, I mean Pitbull washere and you know they've had,
they've had some really goodacts here.
So anyway, I do like the statefair and uh, it is in Iowa right
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now.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
I love the food, I love the actual like animal
shows, things like that, um.
But when it like the midwayrides, I do not trust anything
that comes out of a suitcase.
Okay, you pull, you pull a rideout of a suitcase and chalk it
with some, you know, two byfours and some cinder blocks and
the guy who's supposed to beinspecting the erection of these
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is on his phone.
Speaker 1 (40:20):
Not even looking as people are putting them up.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
Two cigarettes lit at once, half his hair gone.
It's fine, everything's fine.
Speaker 1 (40:28):
I still go.
We go a couple times a year andwe walk around and we people
watch because we love to do that.
I used to eat at the State Fair.
I don't think we ate anythingat the State Fair last year
Maybe we ate one thing, but alot of of people that's all they
go for scandalous.
Speaker 2 (40:43):
It was some weird recommend it was something and I
didn't like it oh man theturkey legs, the deep fried
oreos, corn dogs, the corn dogs,the homemade that fried ribs
the homemade root beer is got tobe up at the top.
Speaker 3 (40:57):
I mean it's, it's amazing.
Speaker 2 (40:59):
But yeah, even the food lately has been really
declining because a lot of theold vendors have backed out yeah
, they have.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
And the one that I used to go to.
It was an italian sausagesandwich.
Yeah, the guinea grinders, yeah, and she died and they closed
down.
They just said, no, we're notgoing to do it anymore.
The whole family said no, notdoing it anymore and travesty I
don, so I don't even buyanything out there anymore.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
But I will say this, you know because Iowa people are
so malnutritioned and, you know, are so thin, so thin that they
run out of the scooter rentalsat the courtesy desk at the fair
every year by 9 am.
Speaker 1 (41:44):
Do you have an illness or a condition, or are
you just?
Speaker 2 (41:45):
I don't know tired and fat, I need to be able to
carry my 10 turkey legs as I go,so I'm gonna need a scooter
it's fun to kind of go and watchit, but it does make you sad
because we are a society ofoverweight people that's for
sure.
Speaker 3 (41:59):
That's not news.
Did you hear that this yearthey're doing some kind of
experimental part in the foodarea?
Speaker 1 (42:05):
really, yeah, are you just blowing smoke, is it?
Is it a scale?
Speaker 3 (42:09):
it's just a big.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
It's just a big trough oh, okay, I thought it
was like a big trucker scalethat you have to go across
before you can go buy something.
Speaker 1 (42:19):
No, but they did used to have that guy in the midway
who would guess your age orguess your age.
And they don't do that anymore.
I don't know, People got alittle sensitive and it's like
oh, I don't weigh that much.
Speaker 2 (42:30):
They never guessed my age or weight correctly, so I
always won.
Speaker 1 (42:34):
And then they always have the guy who you throw the
ball and dunk him.
Yeah, oh my gosh, he was somouthy that they won't let him
come back now.
They don't have that anymore.
He was so funny what a bunch ofsnowflakes.
Oh, just a bunch of crybabywah-wah, creepers, I don't know,
I just.
Speaker 3 (42:51):
But anyway, that's not even our topic.
Any who's, any who's.
Speaker 1 (42:56):
Today we are going to talk about music, music and
yeah, is there a certain genrethat you like the best, or do
you like all music?
Speaker 2 (43:07):
or what do you think there, bobby, best?
No, actually I literally myplaylist goes from one end of
the spectrum to the other and itgoes all decades, all I mean.
I listened to everything from,you know, the original hank
williams and patsy cline tounsigned artists that I've heard
on TikTok.
Speaker 1 (43:24):
Yeah, I do too, and I love some of the new songs that
you get off of TikTok, oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:30):
And a lot of artists.
That's where they're beginningnow, because they're coming up.
You know as unsigned theyrecord it.
You know whether it's in theirbedroom or even just on their
phone.
Speaker 1 (43:40):
Doesn't it blow your mind how talented some of these
people?
Speaker 2 (43:43):
are.
Oh man, it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (43:44):
I mean not only their vocals, but their ability to
play all these instruments.
I mean, I have a hard timeplaying a broom or a shovel.
Well, that's obvious.
Speaker 2 (43:55):
but yeah, yeah, no, it is.
And it's great that they havethat platform now, because,
instead of going through what alot of the artists have had to
go through and that includes, um, you know, being, oh, what's
the word I'm looking for whereyou know they're abused, they're
used they're um demeaned andeven you know, sometimes they
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have to pay a price.
Yeah, yeah, they don't have topay this price anymore right and
I think that's uh.
Speaker 1 (44:24):
First of all, it's horrible.
What you know, you think backof what?
Like justin bieber, I trulybelieve that kid poor that poor
kid I just feel sorry for himand he's not the only one.
There's a lot of them that wentthrough this and it just it
really does just kind of breakyour heart thinking about it.
But you know, hopefully yeah,these folks don't have to go
through that type of rigor andthat type of uh demeaning and
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debasing anymore.
Speaker 2 (44:48):
So when it comes to artists and do you?
I know that the kind of musicthat you listen to, it might not
be so much of a thing, but areyou able to separate the artist
from the art?
Like you, you know things likeR Kelly, p Diddy, things like
that.
If you like their music and youfind out that they have done
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something that these guys havedone, are you able to continue
to support their music or listento their music while still
hating the artist?
Some of it I can.
Speaker 1 (45:21):
Really Some of it I can, yeah, well, I mean I don't
hate the artist, but first ofcan really some of it I can?
Yeah, well, I mean I don't hatethe artist, but first of all I
never listened to p diddy well,I know that I was just.
I was trying to like bring up,you know, some scandals that are
recent, but it's a good example, but, um, I don't know of
anybody that was in a real jerrylee lewis, jerry lee lewis yeah
, I, yeah, I mean, you'll stilllisten to his music, even though
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you know now.
Speaker 2 (45:45):
Elvis Presley yes Pink.
Speaker 1 (45:48):
Pink, I will not listen to her anymore.
What?
No, I will not.
Nope, she pissed me off.
Speaker 2 (45:54):
Well.
Speaker 1 (45:54):
Pissed me off in the last election when she said if
you voted Republican, stopworking for, stop listening.
Speaker 2 (46:00):
Well, I'm sure.
Speaker 1 (46:01):
Now wait a minute and stop working or stop listening.
Now wait a minute she said stoplistening to my music and I
thought well, fuck you.
Speaker 2 (46:07):
Excuse me.
Speaker 3 (46:11):
We're not editing that out.
Speaker 1 (46:12):
I was a little late on that one A little late.
We're not editing that out.
I got to tell you, you know Imean, first of all, this is
America.
I don't care who you vote for.
Vote for whomever you want tovote for?
Speaker 2 (46:23):
That's vote for.
Vote for whomever you want tovote for.
That's what it's all about.
But then again, she, this isamerica, and she has the right
to say and I have the right tolisten to her music or not.
Speaker 1 (46:28):
I love pink I just I did too, but I know I do love
pink.
Speaker 2 (46:32):
I don't anymore what they say politically.
I don't give a crap what yourpolitical association is.
Now when it comes to sextrafficking, things like that,
abuses like that.
Especially when it comes to mintrafficking, things like that.
Abuses like that, especiallywhen it comes to minors, things
like that, people who are, um,underprivileged I will never
even look the way of one of youralbums again.
Speaker 1 (46:52):
Really screw off, man yeah, I, you know, I guess
again I never liked p diddy.
Speaker 2 (46:57):
I never liked p diddy , tupac and them, absolutely.
He you know he was on that um.
He was on trial for shootingthe cops.
Yeah, was on trial for murder.
Yeah, man I still listen to him.
I love those guys I don't.
Speaker 1 (47:10):
I mean, don't get me wrong.
I mean, when pink said that itjust made me mad, it wasn't like
oh, you know, I, to be honest,like I said, I don't care who
you vote for.
I really and truly don't.
That's your right in america.
Just let me vote for who I wantto, yeah.
But if you're going to tell medon't care who you vote for, I
really and truly don't, that'syour right in America.
Just let me vote for who I wantto, yeah.
But if you're going to tell me,don't listen to your music
anymore, okay, I'll oblige.
Speaker 3 (47:30):
I mean, I still do.
What about the cowards formerlyknown as the Dixie Chicks?
Speaker 1 (47:35):
Oh, the Chicksie Dicks.
They're just the chicks now.
Speaker 2 (47:39):
The dicks.
Speaker 3 (47:47):
Now they're just the chicks um, I like some of their
music I love.
Speaker 1 (47:49):
I am not a natalie manes fan, but I will tell you I
like some of their music shewas a neighbor when I lived in
texas.
Speaker 2 (47:53):
Oh, she was kind of nasty yeah she was a mean girl
well, now I've met one of mom'sum.
I don't know if she stillidolizes her, but I know that
she did.
At one time I actually met herface to face and she was the
biggest bitch I've ever met inmy life.
Speaker 1 (48:07):
Reba mcintyre, oh you know what's her heart?
I used to really love her andthen she got a tv show and I
thought, stand down yeah, staywith your music.
Speaker 3 (48:15):
Well, when I worked out at the airport, she's doing
really good commercials.
Speaker 2 (48:18):
Now, though, now she's doing commercials, but
when I worked at the airport Imet quite a few acts that would
come in for the state fair yeah,yeah um, because I was actually
.
I would clean airplanes outthere in the private sector, and
so I met people like alanjackson.
That man is gold we should haveprotected him at all costs.
I met him, so uh I dated thatguy from Signature.
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Yeah, that's how I had my job,remember that's right.
Speaker 1 (48:44):
And so I met Helen Hunt, I met ACDC.
Speaker 3 (48:49):
Yeah, acdc was out there.
What song does Helen Hunt sing?
She doesn't, she's an actress.
Speaker 1 (48:54):
No, no, no, no I'm just saying.
But no.
Speaker 2 (48:59):
Reba McIntyre, I really did like her music a lot.
Speaker 1 (49:03):
Now I guess I've just grown out of it and I really
didn't like her TV shows at all.
I thought stick to what youknow.
Speaker 2 (49:10):
I mean she's entertaining, but I've never
there's a few songs that Ireally do, you know, have
passion for of hers.
But yeah, when I met her, Imean and I was just a kid, I was
what like 12, 13 at the time,working out there- yeah, she was
just real bossy to you, I meannasty bossy.
Yeah, and Alan Jackson, he justhad a heart of gold man.
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I mean just a great guy.
But yeah, I mean.
Speaker 1 (49:34):
Tim McGraw, I think, came to the role.
Speaker 2 (49:37):
He's super nice, but it's like you know, it's the
ability to differentiate, andthere are just some things that
I think are unforgivable.
I don't care how good yourmusic is, I don't care how
popular you are, I don't carehow good you look, if you commit
some of these acts, then you'redead to me, like I will never.
(49:57):
Ever.
If I hear a song on the radio,I flip it.
Speaker 1 (50:04):
If I see you know things, I, I I cannot forgive
some things.
Yeah, there's some I do, butfor the most part I really, you
know, I do separate the songsand the artists from what they
actually do so?
Speaker 2 (50:12):
can you separate the lyrics and the artist?
Speaker 1 (50:16):
uh, yeah, I think I have have you, yeah, in a lot of
cases.
Speaker 3 (50:20):
Some people yeah, some people get fired over it.
Speaker 2 (50:23):
Some people do, oh, absolutely.
Speaker 3 (50:26):
There was one executive sing along to one of
those songs and he got fired andit's like what yeah?
Speaker 2 (50:34):
How does that I mean?
Speaker 1 (50:36):
that, I think, that is, I think it's absolute crap.
Speaker 2 (50:39):
Because even when my kids were younger I would always
say look, if it's in the song,if it's a cuss word, you're
allowed to sing it.
I'm sorry, if it's on the radioand it's a cuss word or
whatever, and it's in the song,are you allowed to go around
saying that cuss word?
Absolutely not.
But if you're singing it andit's in the song and it's
justified but here's the otherthing.
Speaker 1 (50:59):
Here's the other thing.
Wasn't that song playing in thestudio?
He wasn't playing it.
He was singing along to it hewas singing along to it being
played in the studio, right, ifthey were that worried about it.
What are you doing playing thatkind of music in the studio?
Speaker 2 (51:14):
He doesn't get a free pass.
Speaker 1 (51:15):
Oh, isn't that horse crap?
I mean, it's just horse crap.
Speaker 2 (51:19):
So anyway.
Speaker 1 (51:25):
It's a good question.
Can you separate yourself fromwhat someone has done?
Speaker 2 (51:27):
you know yeah or said , or the lyrics that are in some
of their songs, because I knowthe big controversy when I was a
young and budding teen I wouldsay I was like 13- 14 years old
long time ago, snoop doggie dogreleased an album called doggie
style, and it was one of themost scandalous things that had
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happened to white folks sincesince slavery ended.
I swear to god, these peoplewere up in arms, wait a minute.
Speaker 1 (51:58):
We were happy, slavery ended.
Speaker 2 (52:00):
Oh, yeah, no, but I'm saying it's, it's the biggest
scandal since that happened,because I remember all my
friends were like, oh, my momhas banned that album, you know?
Because the lyrics, because ofhow he talks things me.
I'm bumping it in my room likeI'm, like I just walked down to
the record store and bought one,like I, I don't know what
you're talking about well, thereis, uh, I will say there's a
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lot of music that I just flatout won't listen to, and it's
because it's degrading.
Speaker 1 (52:28):
And so I like rap music.
I like the beat.
Bobby just about choked on herchicken down there or choked her
chicken, I don't know.
I do like some rap musicbecause I like the beat.
I think I'm still cool.
You know, I like't know I dolike some rap music because I
like the beat.
I think I'm still cool.
You know, I like the beat.
I like the beat.
I like the beat Shush.
But there is some music that Ireally just flat out won't
(52:51):
listen to.
If every other word is the Fword, if they're talking about,
you know, their WAP Glory B, I'mnot interested in any of that,
you know things.
I'm not interested in any ofthat, you know things.
Speaker 2 (53:02):
Dr Domain is confused .
We'll tell you later what thatis.
Speaker 1 (53:06):
And you know.
So some of the dispute, ofcourse, in rap music has to do
with misogyny and just reallykind of defined as the dislike
of or contempt for, ingrainedprejudice against either a
certain type of people or women,and primarily it's women.
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Yeah, and the saddest part, Ithink, is you have women who are
saying these things too, and II am a firm believer that you
don't do that to other peoplefirst of all, and you definitely
don't do it woman to woman.
Speaker 2 (53:39):
You know, if you want to call somebody a name, go
call them a name, but I don'treally need it, and well, and
the irony of that is, you know,a lot of the rappers talk about
how they were, excuse me, howthey were raised by single
mothers, and then they come onthese rap albums and talk about
women that way yeah and it'skind of I get it because a lot
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of it is necessity of industry.
This is what's selling, this iswhat the record label is looking
for, type of thing.
But a lot of it is their choicebecause, I mean, I turned you
on to Tom McDonald quite a fewyears ago.
I like it and it's crazy thatyou like it, and Eminem yeah, I
love Eminem, that you like it.
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And eminem yeah, I love eminem.
And they eminem was one of themost degrading human beings to
women.
Speaker 1 (54:30):
He was when he first came out and his daughter
started getting older.
Speaker 2 (54:31):
You hated him.
You hated me listening to him.
You hated me showing yourgrandchildren him like we would
you know, bump him in the carthe whole time.
Speaker 1 (54:39):
But the older his daughter and the older his
daughter got and the morerespect he had for his daughter
met and the older his daughtergot and the more respect he had
for his daughter and he wantedrespect for her.
Speaker 2 (54:47):
He doesn't respect his ex wife and I completely
understand but, um, yeah, I mean, it's a lot of it is.
It's what's selling.
It's what the industry isasking for.
It's what is selling.
Speaker 1 (54:58):
You're right, it's what's making money and it all
boils down to what the green isall about right.
Speaker 2 (55:02):
Follow the money.
Speaker 1 (55:03):
And you know some of the rap, lyrics and videos and
other elements of that kind ofmusic encourage or glorify or
justify or legitimize.
I was going to say objectivity.
Speaker 2 (55:13):
Objectivity no, no, okay, try it again.
Objectification,objectification yes, there we go
, or exploitation.
Speaker 1 (55:21):
I'll say that there we go.
Or exploitation.
Speaker 3 (55:24):
I'll say that because I can say that word better.
Speaker 1 (55:26):
Yay for me I get a gold star today.
Or victimization of women.
You know, like I said, I thinkthe saddest part is when you
hear women say it to women, youknow, or degrade other women.
You don't like a woman, walkaway.
You know we've talked aboutthat before, but it can manifest
in a lot of different ways andyou know, in a lot of the videos
and I have seen plenty where itdepicts women who are doing
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some pretty horrible things.
Um, you don't have to do that.
I mean not on a video, right,but it is exactly what you said.
Speaker 2 (55:56):
Follow the so she just really aged herself because
mtv has not music has not hadmusic videos in probably like 25
years, whatever.
Speaker 1 (56:05):
What are the?
What do you call them?
Tiktoks?
Speaker 2 (56:07):
well, no, I mean, they're music videos they are,
but I mean, really you have togo search them out anymore to
see them.
Like, if somebody drops a musicvideo you've got to go on
youtube, you got to go on evo,things like that, in order to
see them, because back then wehad vh1, we had mtv we had cmt.
Yeah, all they did was showmusic videos, and now we don't
have that anymore.
Speaker 1 (56:28):
Yeah, but it isn't just rap music, no what about
the actions?
Speaker 3 (56:32):
not just their lyrics , but what they?
Speaker 1 (56:34):
do the actions I think are pretty disgusting.
What about?
Speaker 3 (56:37):
so you would stop listening to someone if they did
something repulsive or if theywere super repulsive, like uh,
let's see yeah, super repulsiveput a cape
Speaker 2 (56:49):
on it.
It's super now put a cap onthat thing.
So like what?
Yes, let me.
I love the pistols so you know.
Speaker 1 (56:58):
He broke a bottle open and cut his his chest open
with a broken beer bottle.
That said I need a fix, infront of all these kids, in
front of everybody in theaudience.
Is that something that I wouldreally advocate?
Speaker 3 (57:11):
the answer is no so you stopped listening to the.
Speaker 2 (57:13):
I did stop listening to ask mom about, um, the time I
got grounded for, uh, themarilyn manson concert.
What?
Speaker 3 (57:21):
What did Marilyn Manson do?
Speaker 2 (57:22):
What didn't he do?
Speaker 3 (57:25):
Okay, I want to hear that.
But what about?
Like?
This can be kind ofcontroversial to our listeners
because everyone's getting intothe Ozzy bandwagon.
I do like Ozzy.
I think he was a great artist.
Speaker 2 (57:35):
He thought it was a fake bat.
Speaker 1 (57:37):
Okay, we're not going down the bat road.
Go ahead, Dr.
Speaker 3 (57:40):
Domain.
That was one of the big regretsof my life not going to that
concert.
Speaker 2 (57:44):
Oh man, I wish I could have been there, because
he did that here in Iowa.
Yeah, it was in Des Moinesactually Back in 82 when he did
that and he got banned from DesMoines.
Speaker 3 (57:53):
So when he did that, did you stop listening to Ozzy?
Speaker 2 (57:55):
No.
Speaker 3 (57:56):
What about when he pissed on the Alamo?
Stop listening to them.
So they're super.
Speaker 2 (58:02):
Right, this is not super offensive.
It's certain things I mean.
His lyrics weren't thatoffensive, I guess, towards
women.
Speaker 3 (58:09):
I'm not talking about lyrics, I was talking about
actions.
No, I'm saying His actions wereoffensive, but they weren't
offensive.
Speaker 1 (58:14):
Like you know, you're having sex acts with somebody
on stage or you're pretendinglike you're having sex acts or
eating somebody, or I hate that.
I just said that on the air.
Speaker 2 (58:26):
Cutting yourself open and bleeding into the crowd.
Speaker 1 (58:34):
Or having references to kids doing those types of
acts.
That is a done deal for me,sorry, what?
Speaker 3 (58:40):
He's given me that.
Speaker 2 (58:41):
look, he's given me the stink eye.
Speaker 3 (58:42):
Well, I'm just trying to understand the boundaries
here.
He's trying to understand.
Speaker 1 (58:45):
I don't know, my boundaries are weird.
I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (58:47):
So self-mutilation is off limits.
Not to me.
Speaker 1 (58:51):
Okay, we got our boundaries Well that's why she's
at that end of the Chewing thehead off the basket pissing on
the Alamo is okay, we can do allthat.
I didn't say it was okay.
Speaker 3 (59:02):
You asked me if I stopped.
I just want to know what yourlimits are.
Speaker 1 (59:08):
Does it mean that I approve of that?
No, I didn't approve of thatDid I think it was disgusting?
Yeah, I thought it wasdisgusting.
But you know you're asking metwo different questions, so
there.
Speaker 3 (59:20):
I understand, but I'm just trying to get to the
limits.
Speaker 2 (59:24):
Where I understand, but I'm just trying to get to
the limits.
Where are the limits?
He's trying to draw the linearound.
Speaker 3 (59:26):
Bobby's boundaries.
Listen, my fence is like Tryingto herd kittens.
Speaker 2 (59:34):
It can't happen.
So you have an issue With thelyrics that degrade to mean
women, things like that.
Speaker 1 (59:41):
Even men now.
Anyways, what about that?
Degrade to mean women things?
Speaker 2 (59:43):
like that, even men.
Now, I mean, I really do now.
Blah, blah, blah.
Anyways, what about the hitsong that was about killing your
husband and burying him withyour friends?
Earl's got to die, baby.
Speaker 1 (59:57):
Yeah, well, wasn't it ?
Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
Garth.
Speaker 1 (01:00:00):
Brooks, that had the one where the Thunder Rolls.
No, the Thunder Rolls.
Speaker 2 (01:00:05):
Yeah, it was the extended version where she went
into the bedroom, got the gunand then no there's another one
where he takes a semi throughthe motel.
Speaker 3 (01:00:13):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:00:14):
That was all okay, but I'm asking you, is'm asking
you is it is earl, okay is?
No, he's dead well, no, I knowhe's dead.
I'm saying for you obviouslyhe's dead you know the song very
well because all I had to saywas the parameters I knew
exactly what you're talkingabout.
Speaker 1 (01:00:33):
Listen, I've said it before if a man ever beat me up,
I'd kill him in their sleep.
Speaker 2 (01:00:37):
But you know where?
Where's the line?
Speaker 1 (01:00:41):
I don't know my line is for entertainment purposes.
Speaker 2 (01:00:45):
Where's the line?
My line looks like athunderbolt.
Your fence ain't fencing it,sure as heck ain't holding no
cattle, that's for sure keepyour cattle on your own side.
Speaker 1 (01:00:57):
I don't even know what that meant.
Let's get back to the subject,because I wanted to say that it
isn't just rap music or evenrock and roll music that can be
that disgusting.
There's country music, like youjust mentioned, that can be,
you know, pretty out there orsay some pretty disgusting
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things about either men or women.
Also, I'll be honest with you.
You know I'm a very spiritualperson.
I have a strong belief, butthere's some religious music out
there that I think ain'thappening.
Speaker 2 (01:01:32):
First of all, they're preaching the wrong thing.
Speaker 1 (01:01:35):
And secondly, the way you're preaching it makes it
seem like everything is stillokay and it's not, um, and so,
yeah, I I have some disgust forsome religious music or some
gospel music.
Speaker 2 (01:01:48):
Some of it just rubs me the wrong way because it
seems like um you have a veryintimate relationship with the
holy ghost.
Speaker 1 (01:01:58):
I do uh, I'm saying intimate in the wrong way.
Speaker 2 (01:01:59):
okay, like the way the songs some of the intimate
relationship with the Holy GhostI do.
I'm saying intimate in thewrong way.
Okay, like the way the songssome of the songs go.
It's like are we really talkingabout that?
Speaker 1 (01:02:08):
doesn't sound right.
Speaker 3 (01:02:11):
I mean, I don't know what you're referencing.
Speaker 2 (01:02:11):
Well, I don't even know some of the songs, but it's
like where you know they'll besinging about, like oh, he comes
at night and touches me deeply.
And I just just and it's likethey're talking about jesus and
it's like, please do not touchme deeply at night, jesus yeah,
I, I understand what you'resaying.
Speaker 1 (01:02:26):
I understand what you're saying.
What about you?
Can, they could use a wholedifferent so what about bands
like?
Kiss.
What about them?
Every song they had was abouttheir penises.
Speaker 2 (01:02:37):
Yes, yeah, well, I mean basically, I mean love gun.
Love Gun was a song about apenis.
Speaker 1 (01:02:43):
That's what Gene Simmons said.
He said every song we wrote wasabout our penises.
Speaker 2 (01:02:47):
I mean like, what about that?
You know, Was that cool for thekids?
Yes, he did say that.
Come on now.
Speaker 3 (01:02:53):
Give me one reference to she just did.
Speaker 2 (01:02:55):
Love.
Speaker 3 (01:02:55):
Gun no, no, no, no, no To Penis in the song Beth.
Speaker 1 (01:02:59):
It isn't.
Speaker 3 (01:03:00):
Give me one reference to.
Speaker 2 (01:03:01):
Penis.
Speaker 3 (01:03:05):
Beth, oh, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:03:06):
She doesn't know the lyrics.
Speaker 1 (01:03:07):
No, I don't know the lyrics.
Speaker 3 (01:03:10):
He was talking, he was just making headlines with
that he was.
But.
Speaker 1 (01:03:12):
Love.
Speaker 2 (01:03:13):
Gun was definitely about, about.
Speaker 1 (01:03:15):
Well, he made that comment and I thought I'd have
to think about that, because Idon't know the lyrics to all
your songs.
Yeah, I don't really knowwhether that's true or not.
Speaker 2 (01:03:22):
But I mean, you know, we can slip it in any way that
we want to, bazinga.
Anyways, you can put lyricshowever you want to and make
them, make them sound completelyinnocent, when in reality
(01:03:43):
you're talking about somethingelse or you can make them sound
something that really isn'tdirty or something that isn't
really, but then again it's yourchoice on what you listen to.
It's what your choice on what,what you spend your money on.
Well, back then, what you spentyour money on.
Now you just buy a streamingservice, you can listen to
whatever, but they get the likes, they get the shares, they get
the views.
So really it is your choice onon what you listen to.
(01:04:06):
But yeah, if these songs arecontinuing to top the charts,
you know, with WAP and thingslike that, there there's a
reason for it, there there's areason for it.
There's a reason for it.
It's not just money.
I'm talking about thedisconnect of people who do
listen to it from you know.
Maybe, maybe they I'm notsaying that they don't have
(01:04:28):
morals or values, but I'm sayingmaybe they can disconnect from
you know what they believe intheir real life and just enjoy
the song.
You know, maybe they like toget, you know, a little crazy in
their kitchen when they'redoing their dishes at 2 am.
Speaker 1 (01:04:41):
Maybe Type of thing, because I remember listening to
a rap song and I was likedancing to it or whatever.
And you came in and it was like, do you know what they're
saying?
And I go, no, I don't have aclue what they're saying.
And then you start telling me,and I don't even remember what
song it was, and it was like, ohmy gosh, but I liked the music,
(01:05:05):
right, right, I liked the tune.
And that's what sells yeah wasdone, and they found that a
substantial percentage of raplyrics, like 37 percent,
contains some form of misogyny,with variations depending on,
(01:05:27):
you know, the, the subgenre,genre, subgenre, subgenre, uh,
(01:05:57):
of the music, and so I can seethat, you know, I can see that.
I can see that because rap wasactually built on men.
It was built reducing women tomere objects or possessions,
which I hear a lot in rap music.
Speaker 2 (01:06:10):
I hear it a lot in all music.
Speaker 1 (01:06:13):
Probably Glorification of violence, which
seems to be growing.
And then I disagree.
Speaker 2 (01:06:22):
I disagree on that one.
Really I do.
I do Because back in the late80s, early 90s, the
glorification of violence in rapmusic was, I would say, at the
height because of what was goingon in the different coasts, la
and New York, and things likethat.
It was a lot worse back then,when I was a teenager.
(01:06:42):
It was a lot worse than it isnow.
Some of the rap lyrics now theykind of like I'm like whoa, you
know.
But I go back and I of course Istill listen to my oldies rap
music and I'm like wow, we werereally messed up back then.
Speaker 1 (01:06:56):
I mean, some shit was going down I was listening to a
really old song and I wastelling Dr Domain about it the
other day and I said do youremember this song?
And he goes yeah.
And I said have you ever reallykind of listened to the lyrics
to this?
Speaker 2 (01:07:10):
Wait, I want to know what song it was.
Speaker 1 (01:07:11):
I can't remember the name, but I'm going to kind of
sing it for you.
Okay, and it was like um it wasuh turn down your music
everybody Turn the volume down,turn the volume down.
Okay, turn this down, because Ising.
But he said uh, hey, little,something about hey little girl
Um.
I'm a man in a big sedan.
Won't you hop inside my car?
(01:07:32):
I got music candy.
I'm a lovable man.
I'll take you to the nearest,oh my.
Speaker 2 (01:07:37):
God, that is a pedophile trying to get a kid in
a car.
Speaker 1 (01:07:42):
But we, we sang that and I don't even remember.
Speaker 2 (01:07:44):
Was it a Jerry Lee Lewis song?
No, it sounds like a Jerry LeeLewis song.
Speaker 1 (01:07:47):
No, but there's another one by Rod Stewart that
he always creeped me out.
Speaker 2 (01:07:52):
He always creeped me out.
Speaker 1 (01:07:54):
Did you look it up, dr domain?
What was the name of that songdo?
Speaker 3 (01:07:57):
you remember?
No, I don't, but you know whatsong.
I know what song you're talkingabout.
Yeah, when you put it that way,you kind of listen to it.
Speaker 2 (01:08:03):
It was like oh my gosh, hey, little girl, you know
yeah, yeah, and there was a lotof them back then that were
considered, you know, like rockand roll back then, because it
wasn't as heavy as it is now.
Speaker 1 (01:08:15):
Yeah, and the lyrics were I got the hots for the
teacher.
Speaker 2 (01:08:19):
Yeah, like you, listen to it now and you're like
what the hell were these peopleon?
Well, it was cocaine, first ofall.
Everybody was on cocaine.
Speaker 1 (01:08:29):
But yeah, you just listen to the lyrics.
Speaker 2 (01:08:30):
They were on acid at 14.
Hey now.
Speaker 3 (01:08:32):
Hey now, that was like one of our very first
arguments.
We were driving, we weredriving, we were in Georgia and
I was listening to a song andman, she got upset do you
remember the song?
Speaker 1 (01:08:45):
no, is that the one about?
Speaker 3 (01:08:47):
was it WAPS?
Stacy's mom has got it going on, oh yeah.
I mean seriously, listen, shegot all analytical and serious
about it shut up she was reallyjust harsh in my me.
Speaker 1 (01:09:00):
I just wanted to listen to this.
Speaker 3 (01:09:01):
She was really just kind of harsh and mellow.
I was just really trying toenjoy the song and of course he
tries to justify why a?
Speaker 1 (01:09:06):
12 or 13-year-old boy would have hives for Jesse's
mom.
Well, they're coming into theirown.
It's normal.
Blah, blah, blah, you littleperverted creep.
Speaker 2 (01:09:15):
That's like.
Speaker 3 (01:09:16):
That'd be like her I'll vote it two to one.
Speaker 2 (01:09:18):
That would be like her being in the car when I
start listening to uh, scottydoesn't know the song, scotty
doesn't know she would lose hershit.
I'm not even joking, like itwould be bad, probably would it
probably you probably would yeah, and what's funny is that song
was not actually a song.
It was a song that was writtenonly for a band to play in a
(01:09:39):
movie.
And it became such a big hitthat it Figures yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:09:45):
Yep, but I've exposed you to a lot of good music.
Speaker 1 (01:09:49):
Oh yeah, like what was the one about going down the
river on a shithouse door.
What is that?
Speaker 3 (01:09:55):
What was that?
Oh, mojo Nixon, me and yourmama and some other whore
Floating down the river on ashithouse door.
Speaker 2 (01:10:02):
Oh, but rap is the problem.
But rap is the problem.
I didn't say.
Speaker 1 (01:10:05):
I said it's in all the music.
Speaker 3 (01:10:07):
But she sat and listened to it.
Speaker 1 (01:10:09):
Oh, he's got some of the most disgusting music of
these hillbillies, I blew myballs to my butthole.
Speaker 2 (01:10:16):
Oh man, what was that ?
What was the name of that oneband that had all messed up
songs?
Like they were the mostunhinged songs I've ever heard
in my life, oh, I'm sure it'ssomething that's on his playlist
.
It is it's gotta be God.
What was their name?
Speaker 1 (01:10:29):
What is it?
What is it?
Dr Domain it was like early 80s.
Speaker 2 (01:10:35):
Oh my god, I'm gonna have to think about this and get
back to you because red peters,no, no, okay no, who's that
other one that I, him and hisdog named?
Speaker 1 (01:10:44):
stains no who's the one that's with his wife and
they?
Speaker 2 (01:10:52):
say probably the whole town.
Speaker 1 (01:10:53):
No, I mean uh his last name starts with a p, I
think Prine, prine.
Yes, bobby, I know you'velistened to that.
Speaker 2 (01:11:02):
I've listened to.
Primus what are we talkingabout?
Speaker 1 (01:11:05):
John Prime he's a legend, anyway, back to the
point you know some of the musicthat's clean music, he's more
folky.
Well, which?
Speaker 2 (01:11:17):
part is not clean riding down the river on the
shithouse that's mojo.
Speaker 3 (01:11:24):
That's mojo, nixon.
I'm talking about john prine.
Speaker 1 (01:11:27):
He's a good singer he is, and it's just I don't know,
he's got some funny stuff it isfunny, it is, it is funny, so,
um, that's probably all I hadfor today.
Bobby, did you have some moreon any music that you um?
Speaker 2 (01:11:40):
looked into?
Um, I don't.
The only thing I can say isplease don't support the people
who sex traffic and pedophile umyoung women and men in the
industry, because I don't carehow good their music is, it's
not worth it I agree, it's notworth it.
So, yeah, I do think that thatis all the insanity and bitchery
(01:12:02):
that mom has today about music.
Speaker 1 (01:12:03):
Oh my gosh, that hurt my feeling.
Speaker 2 (01:12:06):
We appreciate you joining us here at the Rabbit
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If you have hate mail, well,mom's not going to read it
anyway, so, uh, we don't care.
Next week.
Speaker 1 (01:12:37):
We'll make it into a rap song there we go.
Speaker 2 (01:12:39):
We'll drop a diss track.
There we go, so until next week.
I'm Bobbi Joy and I'm Jane Bird, and you're stuck with us.
Peace out Later.
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