A new sign lights up the Rabbit Hole Studio, and the conversation goes just as bright and unnervingly honest. We open the door to obsessions—what they are, what they aren’t, and how they can drift from funny quirks into compulsions that hijack agency. With our mother-daughter dynamic and a healthy dose of gallows humor, we trace a path from harmless glue peeling and book hoarding to pica and the uncomfortable corners of human behavior that most shows skim past.
We get specific. You’ll hear clear, plain-language distinctions among passion, obsession, and compulsion, plus real-world examples that make those lines easier to spot.
Some sections may make you squirm— it definitely made Jane question Bobbi's psyche!! But it was all for a good laugh....we think....
If you’ve ever wondered where your own habits sit on the spectrum—quirk, passion, obsession—this is your map.
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SPEAKER_02 (00:03):
Welcome everyone to today's show.
A boomer and a Gen Xer.
Walking to a bar coming to youfrom the Rabbit Hole studio,
where you, as our listeners,will experience some wit and
wisdom, some smart assery, and amother and daughter questioning.
Are we even related?
My name is Bobby Joy, and myco-host is my mom Jane.
(00:25):
And we are here to entertain youfor a while.
Okay, Bobby.
SPEAKER_03 (00:29):
Uh-oh.
Uh-oh.
Uh-oh.
Hey, I want to tell everybodythat we got some new decor in
the Rabbit Hole Studio.
We do.
And if you go to our websitesite, our website, our Facebook
page, you may have seen italready.
Yes, you may have already seenit on our Facebook page.
(00:51):
And it is the Rabbit Hole Studiologo.
And um well, uh, what was it, acouple years ago or last year,
that uh Dr.
Domain uh had the the uh artworkdone for us.
Right.
And we got that all taken careof and licensed and whatever we
needed to do, and then we sentthe information and the artwork
(01:15):
over to Luminart in Kansas.
Luminart.
Luminart.
And Colin, the owner there, weworked together and it took a
little while because I will tellyou, if you have not gone onto
our website to take a look atthis artwork and this signage,
you need to because this is alayered project, and it is so
(01:38):
incredibly cool.
We are so happy with his work.
It is, it's very intricate.
Yeah, it is, and it's lit and uhyeah, and it's lit in two
different ways.
It's lit.
Don't ever say that again.
Oh, okay.
Anyway, uh, go take a look atour Facebook page, our official
Facebook page, and you'll seethis artwork.
(02:00):
And we're just so proud of it,and we're so happy that we have
the rabbit hole studio, and uh,we've got a great place to
record every week.
And this week we are gonna betalking about.
Hold on, Bobby, hold on to yourseat.
Hold on, hang on, weirdobsessions, weird obsessions.
SPEAKER_02 (02:23):
Yeah.
So see, when you told me thethat what our subject was, you
just had obsessions, and I'mlike, oh, okay.
SPEAKER_03 (02:31):
Well, we can just do obsessions.
SPEAKER_02 (02:33):
I mean, hey, this is your show today.
SPEAKER_03 (02:36):
Who do you want me to be to make you sing?
SPEAKER_02 (02:39):
Your obsession with thinking you can sing.
SPEAKER_03 (02:41):
Oh, yeah, that's right.
Yeah, I like to sing, too badI'm no good at it.
Yeah.
Uh anyway, so we're gonna betalking about obsessions, and I
don't even know how we got on tothis particular topic or what
made me think about it and sendyou a note and say, hey, we
should do one on obsessions.
Uh somebody must have had one,and I kind of went, that's
weird.
SPEAKER_04 (03:02):
So yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (03:04):
So let me ask you, Bob, you have any obsessions?
SPEAKER_02 (03:09):
I do.
SPEAKER_03 (03:09):
You do?
SPEAKER_02 (03:10):
I do.
SPEAKER_03 (03:11):
Oh no.
Tell me one, your major one.
SPEAKER_02 (03:14):
My major one.
I would have to say, and I'vehad it since I was little, and
it's really weird, especiallywhen you're a little kid, is the
obsession uh with knowledge,just taking in as much
knowledge, information, reading,things like that as I could.
Like just devour it all thetime.
Now, as an adult, I don't haveas much time to kind of you know
(03:37):
dive into things, even though Ido have a lot more access with
the internet around now, since Iam older than Google.
Um, with the internet aroundnow, you know, I I do have more
access to things, but I'vealways been very obsessed with
just learning as much aspossible about things that even
if it's just off-handed, I hearsomething, I have to go look it
(03:59):
up.
SPEAKER_03 (04:00):
You would think if you have an obs Oh Lord, you
would think if you say it wasrelevant information, have an
obsession about gaininginformation that maybe you would
become, I don't know,knowledgeable about stuff.
SPEAKER_02 (04:17):
Okay, well, I don't get paid to gain knowledge.
Now, if I got paid to learn, oh,that makes it a lot of people.
Really?
You can't just do it on yourown.
SPEAKER_03 (04:27):
I don't have time.
SPEAKER_02 (04:28):
Oh my god.
SPEAKER_03 (04:29):
Have time?
That's so funny.
So gaining knowledge, actually,I do know that you have a
buttload, and I mean a buttloadof books, and you love to read.
Yeah, and you do retain a lot ofthat information.
Sometimes it's um how do I wantto say this?
Misdirected.
SPEAKER_02 (04:46):
Oh, I was gonna say unsavory.
SPEAKER_03 (04:49):
Misdirected, or you don't remember it exactly the
way that it happened, but you doget to the point.
SPEAKER_02 (04:55):
But I can say, wait, I know which book that was in.
Hold on, let me go look.
Or wait, I've heard of that.
SPEAKER_03 (05:00):
You can do that, and you can give us a little bit of
information, but are youaccurate on everything?
Not always, uh, not always,yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (05:07):
That's because it's just a jumble up there.
I mean, you hit a certain age,and you know, you start getting
rid of some things that you kindof like a washing machine, just
kind of like what, what, what,what?
SPEAKER_03 (05:18):
Yeah, so um Dr.
Domain uh is with us, of course,in the studio today.
Woohoo! Dr.
Domain, do you have anyobsessions?
SPEAKER_01 (05:28):
No, Maya.
Well, there's a fun show aboutobsessions where the lady is
obsessively eating toilet paper.
SPEAKER_02 (05:37):
That's pica.
SPEAKER_01 (05:38):
All that kind of weird stuff.
What's pika?
SPEAKER_02 (05:40):
So pika is where you have a need to eat things that
are not edible, like toiletpaper, paper, deodorant.
SPEAKER_01 (05:47):
There's even a more scientific specific term for
eating paper.
Oh, I don't know.
There is a term for it.
Um she's gonna look at us.
SPEAKER_02 (05:57):
I am, yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (05:58):
It's it's something xyrograph or something like
that.
SPEAKER_03 (06:03):
Eating toilet paper.
No, paper.
Paper.
Oh, I thought you said eatingtoilet paper.
SPEAKER_01 (06:07):
Well, that's the show specifically addressed this
lady that liked to eat toiletpaper.
SPEAKER_03 (06:12):
It it is called, it's known as pika.
Specifically, the compulsiveingestion of paper is called
xylophageia.
Xylophagia.
I'm saying it wrong, I'm sure.
I know you are, but it startswith an X.
Yeah.
So xylophageia.
No, I think it is.
Xylophage.
SPEAKER_02 (06:33):
I just know it was pika.
SPEAKER_03 (06:34):
Yeah, pika is um, yeah, the eating paper.
SPEAKER_01 (06:38):
So I guess my obsession is watching people
that have weird obsessions.
SPEAKER_02 (06:41):
Watching people eat paper.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (06:44):
Or some lady that drank gas, and there's all kinds
of weird stuff.
SPEAKER_03 (06:47):
There's there's people that like I I was
watching only French fries oryeah, I was watching one where
this lady, and I rememberaccidentally doing this as a
kid.
Accidentally and quoting.
Yeah.
Okay.
Drinks bleach.
Yes.
Yeah.
Drinks bleach.
Yeah.
And I remember accidentallydrinking some down one time, you
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know, when I was a kid.
I was probably, I don't know,seven or eight years old, and I
remember that, but didn't reallydo anything to me.
SPEAKER_02 (07:16):
Anyway, well, that's a different argument for a
different show.
SPEAKER_01 (07:21):
I had my tonsils out and I had an obsession with
trying to scratch the umstitches in the back of my
throat.
Oh.
And it turned into a talent.
SPEAKER_03 (07:31):
It turned into a bar trick.
What did it turn into?
SPEAKER_01 (07:36):
I swallow my tongue.
SPEAKER_03 (07:37):
Yeah, he was rich.
He was part of the rich science.
SPEAKER_02 (07:40):
Yeah.
Well, I had scabs, and so Iwould stick the q-tip on the end
of a straw and itch the scabs inthe back of my throat.
SPEAKER_03 (07:48):
Bobby, what you what you learned to do because you
had your I can swallow mytongue.
SPEAKER_01 (07:54):
No way!
SPEAKER_03 (07:56):
And it's gross.
I'm not kidding you.
He showed me the first time, andI thought, oh no, you're gonna
show her here in the studio.
Oh my gosh.
Seriously.
SPEAKER_02 (08:09):
You know, people would pay good money on the
internet to see that.
Why aren't you selling these?
Oh my god, pimp you.
SPEAKER_03 (08:17):
We're gonna pimp you out as a sideshow at the fair.
SPEAKER_02 (08:19):
You know, maybe we need to do like like useless
talents because you know, me andmy sister used to at the
spaghetti works do the swallowthe spaghetti noodle and then
take it out.
SPEAKER_03 (08:31):
Oh gross, you did do that.
Anyway, I remember sneezing onetime and accidentally having
spaghetti come out my nose, butit wasn't on purpose.
You guys used to do it as a bartrick.
Yeah, oh my gosh.
So, um, some other things thatpeople do, you know, obsessions,
obviously.
Well, no one asked me if I haveany, but I don't.
I don't have any obsessions.
SPEAKER_02 (08:52):
Oh no, you don't have OCD at all.
I don't, not at all.
No, no, no, no, termophobe OCDtype thing.
No, yeah, that's true.
That's true.
No, no, because as I watch her,as I watch her walk, yes, say
no, 12 minutes.
SPEAKER_01 (09:06):
I know.
SPEAKER_02 (09:06):
As I watch her walk around the kitchen looking for
the tiniest crumbs on thecounter and that's just
repeatedly wiping.
That's you have to wipe it threetimes for it to be clean.
You know what?
That was it's an obsession.
No, it is it?
Is it Dr.
Domain?
SPEAKER_01 (09:22):
It is.
Yeah, you're very good atcleaning.
SPEAKER_02 (09:28):
So, do you know the actual Merriam-Webster
definition of an obsession?
What is it?
It is a persistent, disturbingpreoccupation with an often
unreasonable idea or feeling.
That's number one.
Number two is something that cancause an obsession.
So, like obsessional, likelosing weight, can cause an
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obsession that revo, you know,avoidance in certain foods,
things like that.
And did you know when it firstuh started being used?
No.
1680.
SPEAKER_03 (10:01):
What?
Yeah, the word obsession, huh?
So that was when psychologistsstarted coming up with words
like, well, she's an idiot, orshe's a nitwick, nitwick, or uh
she's mentally um unwell.
Yeah, unwell, or um stupid.
Stupid was actually one of theone of the words that they used.
(10:22):
So that was probably back thenwhen they were trying to come up
with words to describe thisstuff.
So toilet paper.
I I wonder if any of ourlisteners eat toilet paper or
paper, just paper.
Have pika.
Have you ever seen kids who eatglue?
SPEAKER_02 (10:38):
I was one not the Elmer's glue, but that actual
glue that no, it was like theclear glue that had the brush in
it.
SPEAKER_01 (10:48):
Oh smelled the smart kids just huffed it and sniffed.
Yeah, you ate it?
SPEAKER_03 (10:55):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (10:55):
Oh.
SPEAKER_03 (10:56):
Oh my god.
And play-doh after she wassniffing.
Play-doh was great.
Maybe.
Oh my gosh.
SPEAKER_01 (11:01):
Maybe it went from sniffing and huffing then to
eating.
Is that progression?
Was it progressive?
SPEAKER_03 (11:06):
Was it a progressive thing?
SPEAKER_01 (11:07):
Or memory loss.
I think memory loss is a goodthing.
It is memory loss.
Oh my gosh.
Too much glue.
SPEAKER_03 (11:12):
So the the glues that I remember kids eating were
the little white containers ofpaste.
Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (11:20):
Those were really good though, because you never
mind.
SPEAKER_03 (11:24):
Because you could suck on the brush.
SPEAKER_02 (11:26):
Here's the thing though, by the time by the time
I went to school, the littlecontainers of white paste, the
teachers wouldn't really let ususe that because we eat.
They knew you ate it.
SPEAKER_03 (11:35):
Yeah, what is up with that?
Oh my gosh.
SPEAKER_02 (11:39):
Listen, I'm not saying I was right or wrong.
I'm saying that this mightaccount for some of the
disorder.
SPEAKER_01 (11:46):
Other things, like what was your favorite color of
crayon to eat?
SPEAKER_03 (11:50):
Did you eat crayon?
SPEAKER_02 (11:51):
No, I didn't eat crayons, but you know, I ate the
sticks of butter.
I ate the toothpaste, you know,things like that.
SPEAKER_03 (11:58):
So gross.
SPEAKER_01 (11:59):
Purple.
Purple crayons were my favorite.
SPEAKER_03 (12:02):
And I remember her eating butter.
It was like, what the hell?
I'd get caught three o'clock inthe morning, stand in front of
the fridge, half stick of buttergone.
Something's wrong.
Yeah.
And it wasn't like I wasn'tfeeding these kids.
No, we weren't starving.
It was just really freakinggood, and you wouldn't let me do
it during the daytime.
So this was kind of this hadn'tdidn't have anything to do with
eating the paste.
But do you guys remember puttingthe paste on your hands and
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letting peeling it off andpeeling it off?
SPEAKER_02 (12:27):
I still do that with Elmer's glue.
SPEAKER_03 (12:29):
Oh my gosh.
If I'm bored.
It was like, oh, we're takingour skin off of our hands.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So that's kind of that's I don'tknow.
That's an obsession to me.
That's kind of bizarre.
So uh there are people out therewho have to, and this is this is
really an O C D thing too, isyou know, check things multiple
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times, right?
Like check the door, shut thedoor, open the door, shut the
light off, shut the light off somany times, check the oven so
many times.
They have to count so manytimes, and yeah, or lock the
door, unlock the door, lock thedoor.
SPEAKER_02 (13:03):
Well, a lot of people they kind of mix up what
an obsession or a passion is.
So an obsession is somethingthat you don't have control
over.
Like you you have thiscompulsive need to engage in
these activities.
You and you may feel that you'reunable to stop, or a passion you
can stop or you can control ittype of thing.
(13:23):
So there's a big differencebecause like people will be
like, oh, you know, I have anobsession over, I don't know,
pink fluffy sweaters.
No, you have a passion for them.
Like it's not ruining your life,it's not making, you know, right
make bad decisions.
Right.
SPEAKER_01 (13:40):
What's the difference then between
obsession and compulsion?
Not passion, but just obsession.
Obsession and compulsion.
SPEAKER_03 (13:46):
Compulsion and compulsion?
Compulsion is something that youhave like you're you have to do
like right now, isn't it?
SPEAKER_02 (13:52):
Compulsion is like an act, like a need to act type
of thing.
So do they run together, Iwonder?
I think that they do kind of runhand in hand.
SPEAKER_03 (14:02):
I mean, strange doesn't seem to adequately
describe some of the addictivebehaviors that are profiled on
that series of addictions, mystrange addictions.
I mean, a lot of those aredangerous and very
life-threatening.
Like there was somebody whochews and swallows uh rubber
bands.
Oh, I used to chew and swallowmy hair.
(14:24):
That's so gross.
It is.
Oh my goodness.
It is, but I couldn't quit.
SPEAKER_01 (14:28):
I know, Dr.
So gross.
That's worse than swallowingsomeone's tongue.
SPEAKER_02 (14:32):
Oh, I don't know.
Okay, I just saw what happened.
And I'm telling you, there's afine line, my friend.
There is a fine line.
You can do an OnlyFans, andthat's all you do all day, and
you can make millions.
Oh my god.
Oh my god.
Oh my gosh.
And I'm gonna tell thelisteners.
I want a new boat.
I'm gonna tell the listenersright now, it is probably, and
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I've seen a lot of really gory,disturbing things.
It's probably one of the mostdisturbing things I've ever seen
a live human do is swallow theirown.
SPEAKER_03 (15:02):
Within a foot of you, because he was like right
here.
He's like, I know, he rolledright up on you.
Oh my god.
Have you ever seen anybody pulltheir hair, like pull their hair
out in chunks?
Yeah.
We had a girl in school when Iwas growing up, and I mean she
would pull it out in chunks, notjust here's a couple hairs.
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She would grab a chunk of it andpull it out.
SPEAKER_02 (15:27):
With my uh, I don't know what you want to call it,
my my current position in myjob.
I do see a lot of very odd andweird behavior.
So we have, you know, the hairpullers, the pika, the the
biters, the you know, theself-harmers, things like that
to where they'll bite their ownskin off and eat it, type of
thing.
And it's yeah, that's gross.
(15:49):
Yeah, the the compulsion, ohJesus.
The compulsion behind it, theydon't have control over it.
I mean, there you you thinkthat, oh, yeah, a lot of times
they do it for attention, butthere are some things that they
don't have that control ofthemselves and they absolutely
have to do it.
And if they're not allowed to doit or if they're restrained from
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doing it, then it causes justall kinds of other issues.
SPEAKER_03 (16:15):
So I was also reading that there was this one
guy that was uh on one of theepisodes and he eats glass.
Oh, I seen that.
So um like a goat.
It's not for what's in theglass, it's like for the crunch
of the glass as he bites intoit.
SPEAKER_02 (16:34):
Has he never heard of like the um the candy, the
glass candy?
Rock candy, yeah, like thingslike that.
Like I don't know, come on now.
I'd be searching that out beforeI, you know, I mean, there's a
lot of things that I would dobefore I and obsessions
obsessions aren't alwaysunhealthy, but there are a lot
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of dangerous obsessions, youknow, like unhealthy fixations,
and they can actually evolveinto things like stalking
violence and self-harm.
One of the ones I remember waswell, there's a couple of them,
you know, the unhealthyobsession with uh celebrities,
yeah.
You know, where they think, oh,this celebrity, I need to be
(17:15):
with them.
I I love them so much.
Well, they become stalkers,their whole life revolves around
them.
John Lennon died because of one,right?
SPEAKER_03 (17:23):
Right.
And so there's a lot of peoplewho have uh what was that little
Latino girl's name that Selena?
Yes, she got killed by a stalkerthat somebody was just totally
obsessed with her.
Well, and she worked for her.
SPEAKER_02 (17:36):
Oh, okay.
She was actually employed byher, and be she became so
obsessed with her and becomingher that yeah, she murdered her.
And uh who was it?
Oh, the gal that played inSilence of the Lambs.
Um, Jody Foster.
Jody Foster.
She had a stalker, yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (17:55):
I remember that.
She was good in Panic Room, too.
She was, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (17:58):
Um, but you know, a lot of celebrities because
they're in the spotlight, um,people do have that twisted
obsession of, you know, knowingthis person, being intimate with
this person, you know, thingslike that.
And it does become dangerous.
It becomes dangerous foreveryone around them, it becomes
dangerous for that person.
(18:19):
And yeah, it can get to thepoint of death.
SPEAKER_03 (18:22):
Yeah, because psychology today addressed, uh,
and I read some of the uharticles there was uh some that
are developing romantic orsexual relationships with like
inanimate objects.
Okay, so we're talking abouttalking about just sex sex toys.
(18:42):
I'm talking about likecompulsive behaviors, like you
know, putting a hammer up thereor you know, just a poor what I
was gonna say, do you want me toname them?
SPEAKER_02 (18:53):
Because I actually work with these people.
I actually work with thesepeople, so there's an insertion
obsession, um, which is formales.
And um I'm gonna get kind ofgross right now.
Is that in the butt?
So no, actually, it's in theurethra.
Oh they have an obsession withinserting things into their
urethra to the point where itcauses damage, but they cannot
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stop themselves.
There's also the obsession of umfarm animals that they think
that they uh have a passionaterelationship with a farm animal
or a cat or a dog.
Oh man, you know, and I wishthat I wish that this was
untrue, but I'm gonna tell youright now, I work daily with
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these people.
I know you do.
And there's the um, there's theyou know, people who have
relationships inside their ownheads with other people, um, to
the point where it does becomedangerous in my last other
people.
SPEAKER_03 (19:52):
In my last marriage, I had a relationship inside my
head.
Nobody else knew about it.
Nobody else knew about itbecause apparently he was having
relationships with other people.
Oh damn! So with everyone else,with everyone else.
SPEAKER_02 (20:07):
So I understand that being inside the head, but it
is, and it does become, youknow, to the point of self-harm
or harming others, and it's it'sabsolutely for someone who
doesn't suffer from these typesof I'll say illnesses.
For someone that doesn't sufferwith these type of illnesses, it
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you know, we look at it from theoutside and we go, how could
they think that way?
How could they do this?
How could you know?
And to them, it's completelylogical, it's not absolutely
rationalized in their heads asto why and how they're doing
this.
That's true, that is true.
SPEAKER_03 (20:46):
It's crazy.
And you know, because and itisn't that, well, didn't anybody
teach them any differently, orweren't they educated, or
sometimes it is some highlyeducated people who have these
types of obsessions.
Absolutely.
So let's not act like you know,I'm a college graduate, so
therefore I can't have anobsession like this because they
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do.
SPEAKER_02 (21:06):
And honestly, if it wasn't kind of normalized in a
way, you wouldn't be able towalk into an adult store and see
things that represent theseobsessions.
SPEAKER_03 (21:17):
Like what?
SPEAKER_02 (21:18):
Do you really want to know?
unknown (21:20):
Yeah.
Oh God.
SPEAKER_02 (21:22):
Um, so the insertion thing, there are actual toys
that um are for that, for the uhanimals, you know, there's the
blow-up sheeps and things likethat.
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (21:33):
Hey, listen, I've been I've been in an adult store
before.
I used to work in one.
No, I remember.
Yeah, I've been I've been inthem, so it's not like uh, you
know, that's news to me.
But some of the stuff, and I'mnot kidding you, when I've gone
into them, I stand there andlaugh so hard, and I'm so loud
laughing that it's almost likethey one time they did tell me
(21:54):
that I needed to you need toleave because you're making the
weirdos uncomfortable.
I didn't need to leave, but Ineeded to be quiet because I was
making all those perverts.
SPEAKER_02 (22:03):
Yeah, because the the quarter uh machines in the
back that the guys are at are sosilent.
Let me tell you what.
SPEAKER_03 (22:11):
God.
So there's also this is kind ofweird.
This is an obsession of roadkillcollecting, an unusual habit
where individuals will go aroundand they'll pick up roadkill for
their own personal collections.
And how do you think we get DavyCrockett hats?
(22:32):
I you're thinking back to when Iwore that Davy Crockett hat for
like three years straight.
That's the visual that came tomind, but I was thinking
somebody went out and shot, youknow, a raccoon or something,
didn't go around and pick themup.
But no, that's not what they'reusing.
That's not what they're usingthis roadkill for.
I'm just telling you.
SPEAKER_02 (22:51):
Like a taxidermy collection.
SPEAKER_03 (22:52):
Wait a minute.
So didn't you tell me aboutsomebody who made pillows or
something out of skin orsomebody?
Oh, wait, that was Ed Gean.
Ed Gean.
Ed Gean.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I don't want to hear aboutbecause I we just started
watching this.
SPEAKER_02 (23:08):
Yeah, you're in the you're in episode two of it.
My goodness, and let me tellyou, you're in for a wild ride
if you think that roadkill beingmade into stuff is something.
Oh my god.
Oh my goodness.
SPEAKER_03 (23:20):
I'm not kidding you.
So Ed Gean's story, it's underon monsters on Netflix, I think.
Yep.
And oh my gosh.
Seriously, Dr.
Domain and I are in in episodetwo, and I looked at him last
night and I said, I don't, I'mnot sure I can watch a rookie
numbers.
SPEAKER_02 (23:38):
I've already been through the series.
I'm on I'm on the third timethrough the series, but I've
been reading.
Why would you wait a minute?
SPEAKER_03 (23:44):
I need to know why you have to watch it again and
again and again.
SPEAKER_02 (23:48):
Well, because you catch new things.
It's an absurd thing.
It is, but you catch new things.
So, you know, the first time youwatch through it, you're just
kind of watching it.
SPEAKER_01 (23:55):
And what kind of details do you really need to
do?
SPEAKER_02 (23:59):
I mean, what is it that you like to really educate
yourself on?
Like cinematically, you know,when they do like a picture or
you know, they do a shot of himin his living room, you don't
notice that the lamp is made outof skin.
You don't notice that the bowlthat is holding the candy on the
table is actually a skullbecause it doesn't look like one
(24:19):
from that angle.
But then you watch it again andyou're going, oh my God, that is
a skull, or oh my god, that ismade out of a lady's face.
SPEAKER_03 (24:30):
We'll call it investigator.
Because even when we werewatching the first, the very
first episode of this, and Idon't mean to get off on this,
but this is these are crazyobsessions he has.
And it isn't just one obsession,folks, it's like multiples.
If you want to see a whole gangfull of obsessions, you need to
watch this series and it'llgross you out.
(24:52):
But I I was telling uh Dr.
Domain before it ever happened,I said, Oh, here's what's gonna
happen next.
And then here, oh, he's gonna dothis.
And he goes, Am I gonna be ableto watch this?
Yeah, shut up.
Yeah, because you know, it'skind of like watching 48 hours.
I mean, within the first threeminutes, I go, Oh, I heard I
know who did it.
Yeah, I know who did it.
(25:13):
I know who did it.
SPEAKER_02 (25:14):
So, um, yeah, but and maybe I do, I mean, we've
talked about this before with mywhole podcast thing and
everything else, but maybe I dohave kind of an unhealthy
obsession with serial killersbecause I mean, I'm literally
ever since I was probably 11, 12years old, I have I have
in-depth studied them, you know,from case files to stories and
(25:38):
things like that.
SPEAKER_03 (25:46):
Is I don't think that that is a uh an obsession
with them.
I think it is a a a complete andtotal interest in investigatory
uh information.
I think it's more about thepsychology of it.
I think it is of like that'spart of the investigation.
How did that happen?
Why didn't they get from this tothis type of thing?
(26:08):
And if this happened, why didn'tthis happen?
SPEAKER_02 (26:10):
Right, you know, because there has to be some
type of and kind of what whatbuilds the foundation of someone
who can do something like that.
Right.
Yeah, absolutely.
SPEAKER_03 (26:20):
So we're gonna continue on these weird
obsessions.
There's another one out therethat I thought was super weird
too, and it's clinical vampirevampirism.
SPEAKER_02 (26:30):
Vampirism, yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (26:31):
Do you know what that's called?
So what it's called?
Renfield's syndrome.
Okay.
It's an addiction to drinkingblood, yeah.
I've heard of it, which can befrom an animal or a human.
Yeah.
And the reason for that type ofcompulsion is really not even,
it's not even remotelyunderstood.
You know, some of these othercompulsions, you can kind of go,
(26:52):
why are they doing that?
And you can kind of get to uhalmost like a fundamental base
reason or awareness, but thatone no.
SPEAKER_02 (27:02):
Well, and I know I've heard sometimes with that
the compulsion comes because ofa severe anemia.
So you actually do kind of cravethat that red meat blood type of
thing.
SPEAKER_01 (27:15):
There's your fix.
What you talked about anemia.
SPEAKER_03 (27:18):
Oh, so what he's talking about.
SPEAKER_01 (27:20):
Well, that's there's got iron in it, right?
SPEAKER_03 (27:22):
Yeah.
Oh my god.
SPEAKER_02 (27:23):
So when I was severely anemic, they told me to
eat a bunch of red meat.
SPEAKER_01 (27:28):
What?
SPEAKER_02 (27:28):
When I was severely anemic, I used to get to be 12
shots.
They said, eat as much red meatas you can tolerate, you know,
especially blood.
Especially meating red.
You know what?
You're freaking our listenerstoo.
SPEAKER_01 (27:40):
What's your favorite?
What's your favorite?
SPEAKER_02 (27:42):
Oh my god.
You want to be freaked out aboutdrinking blood, that's that
whole vampirism cult down inFlorida where they were caught
drinking blood.
Then they ended up with the bigthing.
Let's do a different podcast onthat one, shall we?
What Dr.
SPEAKER_03 (27:54):
Dan Wade was talking about is I had my blood work
done.
Okay.
And I was, you know, trying tocheck, make sure my cholesterol
was down, and it was.
And and unfortunately, I've lostweight here recently, and so's
my red and white blood.
Well, unfortunately, I've lostweight.
No, no, no.
No, that wasn't the unfortunatepart.
Jesus.
It's just that my red and blood.
(28:15):
So anyway, he goes, Oh, sowhat's that?
I go, I'm a little anemic, youknow, which I've been anemic for
years.
Kind of runs in the family.
Yeah, and so I said, you know, Igotta eat a little red meat and
maybe some broccoli or somethings.
SPEAKER_01 (28:27):
That's around an idea.
SPEAKER_03 (28:28):
It's just start drinking blood.
I that's that's so gross.
SPEAKER_01 (28:33):
Well, the other suggestion I gave you is have a
pie in a Guinness.
Because that's high in iron.
SPEAKER_02 (28:38):
Yeah, very high in iron.
SPEAKER_01 (28:39):
The original Guinness, not yeah, they're not
it's not uncommon for them togive uh a Guinness to someone
that just gave birth, you know.
Right.
SPEAKER_03 (28:47):
So I want you to tell me what you think this is
what you think geophagia is.
Geophagia.
SPEAKER_02 (28:55):
Geophagia or geophagia?
SPEAKER_03 (28:57):
It's a G.
Geophagia, what that is.
What kind of what kind ofobsession or compulsion an
obsession with rocks?
You're close.
Dirt.
Eating dirt.
What about this?
SPEAKER_01 (29:10):
Is weird.
That's not uncommon though.
I don't know what a kid has nothad a mud pie.
SPEAKER_03 (29:14):
I used to eat worms.
Yeah, but you don't have anobsession with it.
It's not like you have to do iton a regular basis.
You know, these people who areeating paper they want.
SPEAKER_02 (29:23):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (29:24):
Probably those six months of your life.
It was pretty cool.
SPEAKER_03 (29:26):
Tapophilia.
Tapophilia.
SPEAKER_02 (29:30):
Tapophilia.
SPEAKER_03 (29:31):
What does that sound like?
SPEAKER_02 (29:33):
Um Tapophilia.
Taphilia, I know.
SPEAKER_03 (29:36):
Okay.
P H.
E P H I L I A.
Tapophilia.
Tapophilia.
Tapestry.
It is a fascination or obsessionwith being buried alive.
Being in an enclosed small darkspace underground.
SPEAKER_02 (29:52):
That's one of my biggest things.
SPEAKER_03 (29:52):
And it provides a super adrenaline rush for some
individuals, and they die thatway sometimes.
Well, that.
SPEAKER_02 (30:00):
That would be more of like an addiction to the to
the thrill of surviving it,wouldn't it?
SPEAKER_01 (30:06):
So you can never be on the show Fear Factor where
they bury someone alive.
SPEAKER_03 (30:10):
Oh, I believe.
SPEAKER_02 (30:11):
I mean, me and my sister did some really messed up
shit when we were kids, and I'mtelling you what, I burying
alive or suffocation.
SPEAKER_03 (30:19):
Covering her up in the sandpile was not the same
thing, Bobby, or putting thatcat poop all on her.
That was not the same thing.
Okay, what about Vora VoraRaphaelia?
SPEAKER_02 (30:32):
It would really help if you would have like looked up
the pronunciations of thesethings.
Okay.
SPEAKER_03 (30:37):
Vora Raphaelia.
SPEAKER_02 (30:40):
Vora Raphaelia?
Raphaelia.
SPEAKER_03 (30:44):
Vora Raphaelia.
SPEAKER_02 (30:46):
It sounds like you're having a stroke.
SPEAKER_03 (30:50):
You're so hurtful.
I am.
That is an erotic desire toeither consume or be consumed by
another person or creature.
Cannibalism.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (31:04):
I wouldn't say it's erotic, but I'm saying if when
in Rome, if I'm on a Win inRome?
If I'm on a listen, hey, ifeverybody else is eating
everybody else, I'm just gonnago for it.
I'm against cannibalism.
Fred R makeup medium rare.
But if I'm at a place wherethey're, you know, like they're
(31:25):
like a plane rather than.
Or like they practicecannibalism and they're like,
hey, do you want to try this?
I'm not passing that up.
Oh my god!
SPEAKER_03 (31:34):
Absolutely not.
Okay, see, I have to cut thatout of the show now.
Yes, I do.
Because you are a freakingfreak.
I've heard that the face fleshtastes a little fishy.
Okay, stop.
But stop.
Oh my gosh, people.
I want you to know that.
Listen, I'm just saying if therewas a plane rat.
She's joking around here.
Or if I was on a deserted islandwhere they were active.
SPEAKER_00 (31:57):
That's a matter of survival.
That's certainly.
But I'm saying, like, if you'renot, you're not just going, oh,
they're passing around the horsd'oeuvre tray of fingers.
I'm gonna have one.
SPEAKER_02 (32:04):
That looks like my mom's let's say I'm down, you
know, like in the Amazon andthere's some un unknown tribe,
and I find them and they'relike, hey, do you want to try
this guy's leg?
I'm probably gonna be like, it'scooked.
unknown (32:18):
Oh my god.
SPEAKER_02 (32:21):
Oh my god.
SPEAKER_03 (32:24):
Oh, please, please, listeners.
Now you know what I've beendealing with.
Okay.
Now, now you know the rest ofthis.
You're gonna tell me that if youhad the opportunity, no, no, to
even if I was starving to death,there's a pretty good chance I
wouldn't, I still wouldn'treally, you would not eat a
(32:46):
person for your own survival.
I wouldn't what if they werealready dead and frozen?
No, not doing it.
Oh no, you're insane.
No, wouldn't do it.
I'd die first.
SPEAKER_00 (32:54):
If are you talking about a matter of survival or
just to oh my god, oh my god.
SPEAKER_02 (33:00):
Okay, like let's say you you crash in the candies.
Oh, not crashing in the Andesand the survivors are frozen in
the plane, and you build a fireand you're like, oh my god, it's
day nine, we haven't hadanything to eat, but Bob in the
plane is still frozen.
What if we just take one of hislegs and we cook it for
(33:22):
survival?
That's for survival.
But I'm saying you wouldn't dothat.
SPEAKER_03 (33:26):
No, I wouldn't.
I couldn't.
SPEAKER_02 (33:27):
I'd eat it like a chicken leg at the Iowa State
Fair.
SPEAKER_01 (33:30):
I think there's a bit different.
SPEAKER_03 (33:35):
If it was for survival, Bobby, you need to
clarify that.
SPEAKER_02 (33:39):
If it was for survival, I would eat it like a
chicken leg at the Iowa StateFair.
Oh my gosh.
SPEAKER_03 (33:44):
Put that sucker up.
SPEAKER_02 (33:46):
Oh my gosh.
The fact that you would the factthat you would have the survival
mechanism of No, I would diefirst.
I would die first.
So where's the line?
Would you eat a horse if youwouldn't need a survival snake?
I wouldn't eat a snake.
Okay, so you wouldn't eat asnake.
Would you eat a horse?
Um possibly for survival.
I'm talking purely for survival.
SPEAKER_03 (34:07):
Purely for survival.
What about a dog?
I would eat a dog if it waspurely for survival.
Yeah.
Right.
Uh no, because I carry too manydiseases.
Well, I'm saying non-disease,you know, just cook it up.
SPEAKER_02 (34:18):
But you draw the line at humans.
Absolutely.
SPEAKER_03 (34:26):
Oh my goodness, yes.
SPEAKER_02 (34:28):
That's insane.
SPEAKER_03 (34:29):
I have that's cut it all out of this show.
SPEAKER_02 (34:32):
That's insane to me that you would not survive.
You would not have theself-preservation.
Here's my address.
Could you send someone rightaway?
So I have this obsession withirritating the shit out of mom.
SPEAKER_03 (34:42):
So let's make that perfectly clear because I think
people are thinking that you'reserious, Bobby, so stop it.
Uh piquerism.
Piquerism.
And I think we should know whatthis is.
SPEAKER_01 (34:55):
You're not allowed to ask more if you can't
pronounce them.
SPEAKER_03 (34:59):
Let's say pickerism.
SPEAKER_02 (35:00):
Pique my interest.
SPEAKER_03 (35:02):
P-I-Q-U.
P-A-R-I-S-M.
SPEAKER_02 (35:05):
Pick Pickerism.
Picker?
Eating your buggers.
SPEAKER_03 (35:09):
No, but it's a compulsive for piercing the
flesh of others with sharpknives.
Or with sharp objects.
SPEAKER_02 (35:17):
Sharp objects.
Oh, so like um what is itsuspension?
Suspension play.
Like where they put the hooks inthe body and then suspend.
Oh, yeah.
And it's uh yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (35:27):
It was like the that movie with Dustin Hoffman where
they use the eagle claws andthey pull the claims.
SPEAKER_03 (35:33):
On the nipples.
Oh yeah, that was so gross.
SPEAKER_01 (35:35):
I don't remember the name of it.
SPEAKER_03 (35:36):
Yeah.
You know, I thought this episodetoday was gonna be like, you
know, your sister has thisobsession with not letting her
food touch each other on aplate.
You know, that kind of thingweird.
SPEAKER_02 (35:47):
You know, that's actually a thing.
SPEAKER_03 (35:49):
And yeah, you know, the fact that I probably have
more sunglasses than anybodyever needs.
And boots.
Uh I don't know about that, butum, you know, those kind of
obsessions.
But no, what happens?
We lead down this road that nowI'm gonna be walking out of here
and I'm gonna be havingnightmares about you more so
than I am Ed Geen.
(36:10):
I mean, I wouldn't eat you justfor fun.
That's all I'm saying.
SPEAKER_02 (36:13):
I wouldn't eat just for fun.
SPEAKER_03 (36:14):
Well, that's good to know, Bobby.
Good to know.
Well, I gotta be honest withyou.
I think that's pretty much allwe've got for today because I
don't think I can take itanymore here.
This is just crazy.
So um, oh my gosh, I can't evenI can't even do the outro.
Uh, we appreciate y'all joiningus here at the rabbit hole
studio every week.
(36:35):
Uh, if you have a topic, andplease don't let it be on this
obsession thing.
And please, please do not writein about Bobby.
You can just message medirectly.
Oh my gosh.
If you have a topic that youwould like us to talk about, or
if you have some comments uhthat you want to share with us,
certainly uh recipes.
(36:56):
Recipes.
Oh my gosh, I can't even getthrough this.
So I'm just gonna say I'm JaneBurke.
And I'm Bobby Joy.
And you're stuck with us.
SPEAKER_02 (37:08):
Peace out later.
Welcome everyone to today's show.
A boomer and a Gen Xer.
Walking to a bar coming to youfrom the Rabbit Hole studio,
where you, as our listeners,will experience some wit and
wisdom, some smart assery, and amother and daughter questioning.
Are we even related?
My name is Bobby Joy, and myco-host is my mom Jane.
(00:25):
And we are here to entertain youfor a while.
Okay, Bobby.
SPEAKER_03 (00:29):
Uh-oh.
Uh-oh.
Uh-oh.
Hey, I want to tell everybodythat we got some new decor in
the Rabbit Hole Studio.
We do.
And if you go to our websitesite, our website, our Facebook
page, you may have seen italready.
Yes, you may have already seenit on our Facebook page.
(00:51):
And it is the Rabbit Hole Studiologo.
And um well, uh, what was it, acouple years ago or last year,
that uh Dr.
Domain uh had the the uh artworkdone for us.
Right.
And we got that all taken careof and licensed and whatever we
needed to do, and then we sentthe information and the artwork
(01:15):
over to Luminart in Kansas.
Luminart.
Luminart.
And Colin, the owner there, weworked together and it took a
little while because I will tellyou, if you have not gone onto
our website to take a look atthis artwork and this signage,
you need to because this is alayered project, and it is so
(01:38):
incredibly cool.
We are so happy with his work.
It is, it's very intricate.
Yeah, it is, and it's lit and uhyeah, and it's lit in two
different ways.
It's lit.
Don't ever say that again.
Oh, okay.
Anyway, uh, go take a look atour Facebook page, our official
Facebook page, and you'll seethis artwork.
(02:00):
And we're just so proud of it,and we're so happy that we have
the rabbit hole studio, and uh,we've got a great place to
record every week.
And this week we are gonna betalking about.
Hold on, Bobby, hold on to yourseat.
Hold on, hang on, weirdobsessions, weird obsessions.
SPEAKER_02 (02:23):
Yeah.
So see, when you told me thethat what our subject was, you
just had obsessions, and I'mlike, oh, okay.
SPEAKER_03 (02:31):
Well, we can just do obsessions.
SPEAKER_02 (02:33):
I mean, hey, this is your show today.
SPEAKER_03 (02:36):
Who do you want me to be to make you sing?
SPEAKER_02 (02:39):
Your obsession with thinking you can sing.
SPEAKER_03 (02:41):
Oh, yeah, that's right.
Yeah, I like to sing, too badI'm no good at it.
Yeah.
Uh anyway, so we're gonna betalking about obsessions, and I
don't even know how we got on tothis particular topic or what
made me think about it and sendyou a note and say, hey, we
should do one on obsessions.
Uh somebody must have had one,and I kind of went, that's
weird.
SPEAKER_04 (03:02):
So yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (03:04):
So let me ask you, Bob, you have any obsessions?
SPEAKER_02 (03:09):
I do.
SPEAKER_03 (03:09):
You do?
SPEAKER_02 (03:10):
I do.
SPEAKER_03 (03:11):
Oh no.
Tell me one, your major one.
SPEAKER_02 (03:14):
My major one.
I would have to say, and I'vehad it since I was little, and
it's really weird, especiallywhen you're a little kid, is the
obsession uh with knowledge,just taking in as much
knowledge, information, reading,things like that as I could.
Like just devour it all thetime.
Now, as an adult, I don't haveas much time to kind of you know
(03:37):
dive into things, even though Ido have a lot more access with
the internet around now, since Iam older than Google.
Um, with the internet aroundnow, you know, I I do have more
access to things, but I'vealways been very obsessed with
just learning as much aspossible about things that even
if it's just off-handed, I hearsomething, I have to go look it
(03:59):
up.
SPEAKER_03 (04:00):
You would think if you have an obs Oh Lord, you
would think if you say it wasrelevant information, have an
obsession about gaininginformation that maybe you would
become, I don't know,knowledgeable about stuff.
SPEAKER_02 (04:17):
Okay, well, I don't get paid to gain knowledge.
Now, if I got paid to learn, oh,that makes it a lot of people.
Really?
You can't just do it on yourown.
SPEAKER_03 (04:27):
I don't have time.
SPEAKER_02 (04:28):
Oh my god.
SPEAKER_03 (04:29):
Have time?
That's so funny.
So gaining knowledge, actually,I do know that you have a
buttload, and I mean a buttloadof books, and you love to read.
Yeah, and you do retain a lot ofthat information.
Sometimes it's um how do I wantto say this?
Misdirected.
SPEAKER_02 (04:46):
Oh, I was gonna say unsavory.
SPEAKER_03 (04:49):
Misdirected, or you don't remember it exactly the
way that it happened, but you doget to the point.
SPEAKER_02 (04:55):
But I can say, wait, I know which book that was in.
Hold on, let me go look.
Or wait, I've heard of that.
SPEAKER_03 (05:00):
You can do that, and you can give us a little bit of
information, but are youaccurate on everything?
Not always, uh, not always,yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (05:07):
That's because it's just a jumble up there.
I mean, you hit a certain age,and you know, you start getting
rid of some things that you kindof like a washing machine, just
kind of like what, what, what,what?
SPEAKER_03 (05:18):
Yeah, so um Dr.
Domain uh is with us, of course,in the studio today.
Woohoo! Dr.
Domain, do you have anyobsessions?
SPEAKER_01 (05:28):
No, Maya.
Well, there's a fun show aboutobsessions where the lady is
obsessively eating toilet paper.
SPEAKER_02 (05:37):
That's pica.
SPEAKER_01 (05:38):
All that kind of weird stuff.
What's pika?
SPEAKER_02 (05:40):
So pika is where you have a need to eat things that
are not edible, like toiletpaper, paper, deodorant.
SPEAKER_01 (05:47):
There's even a more scientific specific term for
eating paper.
Oh, I don't know.
There is a term for it.
Um she's gonna look at us.
SPEAKER_02 (05:57):
I am, yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (05:58):
It's it's something xyrograph or something like
that.
SPEAKER_03 (06:03):
Eating toilet paper.
No, paper.
Paper.
Oh, I thought you said eatingtoilet paper.
SPEAKER_01 (06:07):
Well, that's the show specifically addressed this
lady that liked to eat toiletpaper.
SPEAKER_03 (06:12):
It it is called, it's known as pika.
Specifically, the compulsiveingestion of paper is called
xylophageia.
Xylophagia.
I'm saying it wrong, I'm sure.
I know you are, but it startswith an X.
Yeah.
So xylophageia.
No, I think it is.
Xylophage.
SPEAKER_02 (06:33):
I just know it was pika.
SPEAKER_03 (06:34):
Yeah, pika is um, yeah, the eating paper.
SPEAKER_01 (06:38):
So I guess my obsession is watching people
that have weird obsessions.
SPEAKER_02 (06:41):
Watching people eat paper.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (06:44):
Or some lady that drank gas, and there's all kinds
of weird stuff.
SPEAKER_03 (06:47):
There's there's people that like I I was
watching only French fries oryeah, I was watching one where
this lady, and I rememberaccidentally doing this as a
kid.
Accidentally and quoting.
Yeah.
Okay.
Drinks bleach.
Yes.
Yeah.
Drinks bleach.
Yeah.
And I remember accidentallydrinking some down one time, you
(07:09):
know, when I was a kid.
I was probably, I don't know,seven or eight years old, and I
remember that, but didn't reallydo anything to me.
SPEAKER_02 (07:16):
Anyway, well, that's a different argument for a
different show.
SPEAKER_01 (07:21):
I had my tonsils out and I had an obsession with
trying to scratch the umstitches in the back of my
throat.
Oh.
And it turned into a talent.
SPEAKER_03 (07:31):
It turned into a bar trick.
What did it turn into?
SPEAKER_01 (07:36):
I swallow my tongue.
SPEAKER_03 (07:37):
Yeah, he was rich.
He was part of the rich science.
SPEAKER_02 (07:40):
Yeah.
Well, I had scabs, and so Iwould stick the q-tip on the end
of a straw and itch the scabs inthe back of my throat.
SPEAKER_03 (07:48):
Bobby, what you what you learned to do because you
had your I can swallow mytongue.
SPEAKER_01 (07:54):
No way!
SPEAKER_03 (07:56):
And it's gross.
I'm not kidding you.
He showed me the first time, andI thought, oh no, you're gonna
show her here in the studio.
Oh my gosh.
Seriously.
SPEAKER_02 (08:09):
You know, people would pay good money on the
internet to see that.
Why aren't you selling these?
Oh my god, pimp you.
SPEAKER_03 (08:17):
We're gonna pimp you out as a sideshow at the fair.
SPEAKER_02 (08:19):
You know, maybe we need to do like like useless
talents because you know, me andmy sister used to at the
spaghetti works do the swallowthe spaghetti noodle and then
take it out.
SPEAKER_03 (08:31):
Oh gross, you did do that.
Anyway, I remember sneezing onetime and accidentally having
spaghetti come out my nose, butit wasn't on purpose.
You guys used to do it as a bartrick.
Yeah, oh my gosh.
So, um, some other things thatpeople do, you know, obsessions,
obviously.
Well, no one asked me if I haveany, but I don't.
I don't have any obsessions.
SPEAKER_02 (08:52):
Oh no, you don't have OCD at all.
I don't, not at all.
No, no, no, no, termophobe OCDtype thing.
No, yeah, that's true.
That's true.
No, no, because as I watch her,as I watch her walk, yes, say
no, 12 minutes.
SPEAKER_01 (09:06):
I know.
SPEAKER_02 (09:06):
As I watch her walk around the kitchen looking for
the tiniest crumbs on thecounter and that's just
repeatedly wiping.
That's you have to wipe it threetimes for it to be clean.
You know what?
That was it's an obsession.
No, it is it?
Is it Dr.
Domain?
SPEAKER_01 (09:22):
It is.
Yeah, you're very good atcleaning.
SPEAKER_02 (09:28):
So, do you know the actual Merriam-Webster
definition of an obsession?
What is it?
It is a persistent, disturbingpreoccupation with an often
unreasonable idea or feeling.
That's number one.
Number two is something that cancause an obsession.
So, like obsessional, likelosing weight, can cause an
(09:51):
obsession that revo, you know,avoidance in certain foods,
things like that.
And did you know when it firstuh started being used?
No.
1680.
SPEAKER_03 (10:01):
What?
Yeah, the word obsession, huh?
So that was when psychologistsstarted coming up with words
like, well, she's an idiot, orshe's a nitwick, nitwick, or uh
she's mentally um unwell.
Yeah, unwell, or um stupid.
Stupid was actually one of theone of the words that they used.
(10:22):
So that was probably back thenwhen they were trying to come up
with words to describe thisstuff.
So toilet paper.
I I wonder if any of ourlisteners eat toilet paper or
paper, just paper.
Have pika.
Have you ever seen kids who eatglue?
SPEAKER_02 (10:38):
I was one not the Elmer's glue, but that actual
glue that no, it was like theclear glue that had the brush in
it.
SPEAKER_01 (10:48):
Oh smelled the smart kids just huffed it and sniffed.
Yeah, you ate it?
SPEAKER_03 (10:55):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (10:55):
Oh.
SPEAKER_03 (10:56):
Oh my god.
And play-doh after she wassniffing.
Play-doh was great.
Maybe.
Oh my gosh.
SPEAKER_01 (11:01):
Maybe it went from sniffing and huffing then to
eating.
Is that progression?
Was it progressive?
SPEAKER_03 (11:06):
Was it a progressive thing?
SPEAKER_01 (11:07):
Or memory loss.
I think memory loss is a goodthing.
It is memory loss.
Oh my gosh.
Too much glue.
SPEAKER_03 (11:12):
So the the glues that I remember kids eating were
the little white containers ofpaste.
Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (11:20):
Those were really good though, because you never
mind.
SPEAKER_03 (11:24):
Because you could suck on the brush.
SPEAKER_02 (11:26):
Here's the thing though, by the time by the time
I went to school, the littlecontainers of white paste, the
teachers wouldn't really let ususe that because we eat.
They knew you ate it.
SPEAKER_03 (11:35):
Yeah, what is up with that?
Oh my gosh.
SPEAKER_02 (11:39):
Listen, I'm not saying I was right or wrong.
I'm saying that this mightaccount for some of the
disorder.
SPEAKER_01 (11:46):
Other things, like what was your favorite color of
crayon to eat?
SPEAKER_03 (11:50):
Did you eat crayon?
SPEAKER_02 (11:51):
No, I didn't eat crayons, but you know, I ate the
sticks of butter.
I ate the toothpaste, you know,things like that.
SPEAKER_03 (11:58):
So gross.
SPEAKER_01 (11:59):
Purple.
Purple crayons were my favorite.
SPEAKER_03 (12:02):
And I remember her eating butter.
It was like, what the hell?
I'd get caught three o'clock inthe morning, stand in front of
the fridge, half stick of buttergone.
Something's wrong.
Yeah.
And it wasn't like I wasn'tfeeding these kids.
No, we weren't starving.
It was just really freakinggood, and you wouldn't let me do
it during the daytime.
So this was kind of this hadn'tdidn't have anything to do with
eating the paste.
But do you guys remember puttingthe paste on your hands and
(12:25):
letting peeling it off andpeeling it off?
SPEAKER_02 (12:27):
I still do that with Elmer's glue.
SPEAKER_03 (12:29):
Oh my gosh.
If I'm bored.
It was like, oh, we're takingour skin off of our hands.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So that's kind of that's I don'tknow.
That's an obsession to me.
That's kind of bizarre.
So uh there are people out therewho have to, and this is this is
really an O C D thing too, isyou know, check things multiple
(12:50):
times, right?
Like check the door, shut thedoor, open the door, shut the
light off, shut the light off somany times, check the oven so
many times.
They have to count so manytimes, and yeah, or lock the
door, unlock the door, lock thedoor.
SPEAKER_02 (13:03):
Well, a lot of people they kind of mix up what
an obsession or a passion is.
So an obsession is somethingthat you don't have control
over.
Like you you have thiscompulsive need to engage in
these activities.
You and you may feel that you'reunable to stop, or a passion you
can stop or you can control ittype of thing.
(13:23):
So there's a big differencebecause like people will be
like, oh, you know, I have anobsession over, I don't know,
pink fluffy sweaters.
No, you have a passion for them.
Like it's not ruining your life,it's not making, you know, right
make bad decisions.
Right.
SPEAKER_01 (13:40):
What's the difference then between
obsession and compulsion?
Not passion, but just obsession.
Obsession and compulsion.
SPEAKER_03 (13:46):
Compulsion and compulsion?
Compulsion is something that youhave like you're you have to do
like right now, isn't it?
SPEAKER_02 (13:52):
Compulsion is like an act, like a need to act type
of thing.
So do they run together, Iwonder?
I think that they do kind of runhand in hand.
SPEAKER_03 (14:02):
I mean, strange doesn't seem to adequately
describe some of the addictivebehaviors that are profiled on
that series of addictions, mystrange addictions.
I mean, a lot of those aredangerous and very
life-threatening.
Like there was somebody whochews and swallows uh rubber
bands.
Oh, I used to chew and swallowmy hair.
(14:24):
That's so gross.
It is.
Oh my goodness.
It is, but I couldn't quit.
SPEAKER_01 (14:28):
I know, Dr.
So gross.
That's worse than swallowingsomeone's tongue.
SPEAKER_02 (14:32):
Oh, I don't know.
Okay, I just saw what happened.
And I'm telling you, there's afine line, my friend.
There is a fine line.
You can do an OnlyFans, andthat's all you do all day, and
you can make millions.
Oh my god.
Oh my god.
Oh my gosh.
And I'm gonna tell thelisteners.
I want a new boat.
I'm gonna tell the listenersright now, it is probably, and
(14:54):
I've seen a lot of really gory,disturbing things.
It's probably one of the mostdisturbing things I've ever seen
a live human do is swallow theirown.
SPEAKER_03 (15:02):
Within a foot of you, because he was like right
here.
He's like, I know, he rolledright up on you.
Oh my god.
Have you ever seen anybody pulltheir hair, like pull their hair
out in chunks?
Yeah.
We had a girl in school when Iwas growing up, and I mean she
would pull it out in chunks, notjust here's a couple hairs.
(15:24):
She would grab a chunk of it andpull it out.
SPEAKER_02 (15:27):
With my uh, I don't know what you want to call it,
my my current position in myjob.
I do see a lot of very odd andweird behavior.
So we have, you know, the hairpullers, the pika, the the
biters, the you know, theself-harmers, things like that
to where they'll bite their ownskin off and eat it, type of
thing.
And it's yeah, that's gross.
(15:49):
Yeah, the the compulsion, ohJesus.
The compulsion behind it, theydon't have control over it.
I mean, there you you thinkthat, oh, yeah, a lot of times
they do it for attention, butthere are some things that they
don't have that control ofthemselves and they absolutely
have to do it.
And if they're not allowed to doit or if they're restrained from
(16:12):
doing it, then it causes justall kinds of other issues.
SPEAKER_03 (16:15):
So I was also reading that there was this one
guy that was uh on one of theepisodes and he eats glass.
Oh, I seen that.
So um like a goat.
It's not for what's in theglass, it's like for the crunch
of the glass as he bites intoit.
SPEAKER_02 (16:34):
Has he never heard of like the um the candy, the
glass candy?
Rock candy, yeah, like thingslike that.
Like I don't know, come on now.
I'd be searching that out beforeI, you know, I mean, there's a
lot of things that I would dobefore I and obsessions
obsessions aren't alwaysunhealthy, but there are a lot
(16:54):
of dangerous obsessions, youknow, like unhealthy fixations,
and they can actually evolveinto things like stalking
violence and self-harm.
One of the ones I remember waswell, there's a couple of them,
you know, the unhealthyobsession with uh celebrities,
yeah.
You know, where they think, oh,this celebrity, I need to be
(17:15):
with them.
I I love them so much.
Well, they become stalkers,their whole life revolves around
them.
John Lennon died because of one,right?
SPEAKER_03 (17:23):
Right.
And so there's a lot of peoplewho have uh what was that little
Latino girl's name that Selena?
Yes, she got killed by a stalkerthat somebody was just totally
obsessed with her.
Well, and she worked for her.
SPEAKER_02 (17:36):
Oh, okay.
She was actually employed byher, and be she became so
obsessed with her and becomingher that yeah, she murdered her.
And uh who was it?
Oh, the gal that played inSilence of the Lambs.
Um, Jody Foster.
Jody Foster.
She had a stalker, yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (17:55):
I remember that.
She was good in Panic Room, too.
She was, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (17:58):
Um, but you know, a lot of celebrities because
they're in the spotlight, um,people do have that twisted
obsession of, you know, knowingthis person, being intimate with
this person, you know, thingslike that.
And it does become dangerous.
It becomes dangerous foreveryone around them, it becomes
dangerous for that person.
(18:19):
And yeah, it can get to thepoint of death.
SPEAKER_03 (18:22):
Yeah, because psychology today addressed, uh,
and I read some of the uharticles there was uh some that
are developing romantic orsexual relationships with like
inanimate objects.
Okay, so we're talking abouttalking about just sex sex toys.
(18:42):
I'm talking about likecompulsive behaviors, like you
know, putting a hammer up thereor you know, just a poor what I
was gonna say, do you want me toname them?
SPEAKER_02 (18:53):
Because I actually work with these people.
I actually work with thesepeople, so there's an insertion
obsession, um, which is formales.
And um I'm gonna get kind ofgross right now.
Is that in the butt?
So no, actually, it's in theurethra.
Oh they have an obsession withinserting things into their
urethra to the point where itcauses damage, but they cannot
(19:17):
stop themselves.
There's also the obsession of umfarm animals that they think
that they uh have a passionaterelationship with a farm animal
or a cat or a dog.
Oh man, you know, and I wishthat I wish that this was
untrue, but I'm gonna tell youright now, I work daily with
(19:38):
these people.
I know you do.
And there's the um, there's theyou know, people who have
relationships inside their ownheads with other people, um, to
the point where it does becomedangerous in my last other
people.
SPEAKER_03 (19:52):
In my last marriage, I had a relationship inside my
head.
Nobody else knew about it.
Nobody else knew about itbecause apparently he was having
relationships with other people.
Oh damn! So with everyone else,with everyone else.
SPEAKER_02 (20:07):
So I understand that being inside the head, but it
is, and it does become, youknow, to the point of self-harm
or harming others, and it's it'sabsolutely for someone who
doesn't suffer from these typesof I'll say illnesses.
For someone that doesn't sufferwith these type of illnesses, it
(20:28):
you know, we look at it from theoutside and we go, how could
they think that way?
How could they do this?
How could you know?
And to them, it's completelylogical, it's not absolutely
rationalized in their heads asto why and how they're doing
this.
That's true, that is true.
SPEAKER_03 (20:46):
It's crazy.
And you know, because and itisn't that, well, didn't anybody
teach them any differently, orweren't they educated, or
sometimes it is some highlyeducated people who have these
types of obsessions.
Absolutely.
So let's not act like you know,I'm a college graduate, so
therefore I can't have anobsession like this because they
(21:06):
do.
SPEAKER_02 (21:06):
And honestly, if it wasn't kind of normalized in a
way, you wouldn't be able towalk into an adult store and see
things that represent theseobsessions.
SPEAKER_03 (21:17):
Like what?
SPEAKER_02 (21:18):
Do you really want to know?
unknown (21:20):
Yeah.
Oh God.
SPEAKER_02 (21:22):
Um, so the insertion thing, there are actual toys
that um are for that, for the uhanimals, you know, there's the
blow-up sheeps and things likethat.
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (21:33):
Hey, listen, I've been I've been in an adult store
before.
I used to work in one.
No, I remember.
Yeah, I've been I've been inthem, so it's not like uh, you
know, that's news to me.
But some of the stuff, and I'mnot kidding you, when I've gone
into them, I stand there andlaugh so hard, and I'm so loud
laughing that it's almost likethey one time they did tell me
(21:54):
that I needed to you need toleave because you're making the
weirdos uncomfortable.
I didn't need to leave, but Ineeded to be quiet because I was
making all those perverts.
SPEAKER_02 (22:03):
Yeah, because the the quarter uh machines in the
back that the guys are at are sosilent.
Let me tell you what.
SPEAKER_03 (22:11):
God.
So there's also this is kind ofweird.
This is an obsession of roadkillcollecting, an unusual habit
where individuals will go aroundand they'll pick up roadkill for
their own personal collections.
And how do you think we get DavyCrockett hats?
(22:32):
I you're thinking back to when Iwore that Davy Crockett hat for
like three years straight.
That's the visual that came tomind, but I was thinking
somebody went out and shot, youknow, a raccoon or something,
didn't go around and pick themup.
But no, that's not what they'reusing.
That's not what they're usingthis roadkill for.
I'm just telling you.
SPEAKER_02 (22:51):
Like a taxidermy collection.
SPEAKER_03 (22:52):
Wait a minute.
So didn't you tell me aboutsomebody who made pillows or
something out of skin orsomebody?
Oh, wait, that was Ed Gean.
Ed Gean.
Ed Gean.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I don't want to hear aboutbecause I we just started
watching this.
SPEAKER_02 (23:08):
Yeah, you're in the you're in episode two of it.
My goodness, and let me tellyou, you're in for a wild ride
if you think that roadkill beingmade into stuff is something.
Oh my god.
Oh my goodness.
SPEAKER_03 (23:20):
I'm not kidding you.
So Ed Gean's story, it's underon monsters on Netflix, I think.
Yep.
And oh my gosh.
Seriously, Dr.
Domain and I are in in episodetwo, and I looked at him last
night and I said, I don't, I'mnot sure I can watch a rookie
numbers.
SPEAKER_02 (23:38):
I've already been through the series.
I'm on I'm on the third timethrough the series, but I've
been reading.
Why would you wait a minute?
SPEAKER_03 (23:44):
I need to know why you have to watch it again and
again and again.
SPEAKER_02 (23:48):
Well, because you catch new things.
It's an absurd thing.
It is, but you catch new things.
So, you know, the first time youwatch through it, you're just
kind of watching it.
SPEAKER_01 (23:55):
And what kind of details do you really need to
do?
SPEAKER_02 (23:59):
I mean, what is it that you like to really educate
yourself on?
Like cinematically, you know,when they do like a picture or
you know, they do a shot of himin his living room, you don't
notice that the lamp is made outof skin.
You don't notice that the bowlthat is holding the candy on the
table is actually a skullbecause it doesn't look like one
(24:19):
from that angle.
But then you watch it again andyou're going, oh my God, that is
a skull, or oh my god, that ismade out of a lady's face.
SPEAKER_03 (24:30):
We'll call it investigator.
Because even when we werewatching the first, the very
first episode of this, and Idon't mean to get off on this,
but this is these are crazyobsessions he has.
And it isn't just one obsession,folks, it's like multiples.
If you want to see a whole gangfull of obsessions, you need to
watch this series and it'llgross you out.
(24:52):
But I I was telling uh Dr.
Domain before it ever happened,I said, Oh, here's what's gonna
happen next.
And then here, oh, he's gonna dothis.
And he goes, Am I gonna be ableto watch this?
Yeah, shut up.
Yeah, because you know, it'skind of like watching 48 hours.
I mean, within the first threeminutes, I go, Oh, I heard I
know who did it.
Yeah, I know who did it.
(25:13):
I know who did it.
SPEAKER_02 (25:14):
So, um, yeah, but and maybe I do, I mean, we've
talked about this before with mywhole podcast thing and
everything else, but maybe I dohave kind of an unhealthy
obsession with serial killersbecause I mean, I'm literally
ever since I was probably 11, 12years old, I have I have
in-depth studied them, you know,from case files to stories and
(25:38):
things like that.
SPEAKER_03 (25:46):
Is I don't think that that is a uh an obsession
with them.
I think it is a a a complete andtotal interest in investigatory
uh information.
I think it's more about thepsychology of it.
I think it is of like that'spart of the investigation.
How did that happen?
Why didn't they get from this tothis type of thing?
(26:08):
And if this happened, why didn'tthis happen?
SPEAKER_02 (26:10):
Right, you know, because there has to be some
type of and kind of what whatbuilds the foundation of someone
who can do something like that.
Right.
Yeah, absolutely.
SPEAKER_03 (26:20):
So we're gonna continue on these weird
obsessions.
There's another one out therethat I thought was super weird
too, and it's clinical vampirevampirism.
SPEAKER_02 (26:30):
Vampirism, yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (26:31):
Do you know what that's called?
So what it's called?
Renfield's syndrome.
Okay.
It's an addiction to drinkingblood, yeah.
I've heard of it, which can befrom an animal or a human.
Yeah.
And the reason for that type ofcompulsion is really not even,
it's not even remotelyunderstood.
You know, some of these othercompulsions, you can kind of go,
(26:52):
why are they doing that?
And you can kind of get to uhalmost like a fundamental base
reason or awareness, but thatone no.
SPEAKER_02 (27:02):
Well, and I know I've heard sometimes with that
the compulsion comes because ofa severe anemia.
So you actually do kind of cravethat that red meat blood type of
thing.
SPEAKER_01 (27:15):
There's your fix.
What you talked about anemia.
SPEAKER_03 (27:18):
Oh, so what he's talking about.
SPEAKER_01 (27:20):
Well, that's there's got iron in it, right?
SPEAKER_03 (27:22):
Yeah.
Oh my god.
SPEAKER_02 (27:23):
So when I was severely anemic, they told me to
eat a bunch of red meat.
SPEAKER_01 (27:28):
What?
SPEAKER_02 (27:28):
When I was severely anemic, I used to get to be 12
shots.
They said, eat as much red meatas you can tolerate, you know,
especially blood.
Especially meating red.
You know what?
You're freaking our listenerstoo.
SPEAKER_01 (27:40):
What's your favorite?
What's your favorite?
SPEAKER_02 (27:42):
Oh my god.
You want to be freaked out aboutdrinking blood, that's that
whole vampirism cult down inFlorida where they were caught
drinking blood.
Then they ended up with the bigthing.
Let's do a different podcast onthat one, shall we?
What Dr.
SPEAKER_03 (27:54):
Dan Wade was talking about is I had my blood work
done.
Okay.
And I was, you know, trying tocheck, make sure my cholesterol
was down, and it was.
And and unfortunately, I've lostweight here recently, and so's
my red and white blood.
Well, unfortunately, I've lostweight.
No, no, no.
No, that wasn't the unfortunatepart.
Jesus.
It's just that my red and blood.
(28:15):
So anyway, he goes, Oh, sowhat's that?
I go, I'm a little anemic, youknow, which I've been anemic for
years.
Kind of runs in the family.
Yeah, and so I said, you know, Igotta eat a little red meat and
maybe some broccoli or somethings.
SPEAKER_01 (28:27):
That's around an idea.
SPEAKER_03 (28:28):
It's just start drinking blood.
I that's that's so gross.
SPEAKER_01 (28:33):
Well, the other suggestion I gave you is have a
pie in a Guinness.
Because that's high in iron.
SPEAKER_02 (28:38):
Yeah, very high in iron.
SPEAKER_01 (28:39):
The original Guinness, not yeah, they're not
it's not uncommon for them togive uh a Guinness to someone
that just gave birth, you know.
Right.
SPEAKER_03 (28:47):
So I want you to tell me what you think this is
what you think geophagia is.
Geophagia.
SPEAKER_02 (28:55):
Geophagia or geophagia?
SPEAKER_03 (28:57):
It's a G.
Geophagia, what that is.
What kind of what kind ofobsession or compulsion an
obsession with rocks?
You're close.
Dirt.
Eating dirt.
What about this?
SPEAKER_01 (29:10):
Is weird.
That's not uncommon though.
I don't know what a kid has nothad a mud pie.
SPEAKER_03 (29:14):
I used to eat worms.
Yeah, but you don't have anobsession with it.
It's not like you have to do iton a regular basis.
You know, these people who areeating paper they want.
SPEAKER_02 (29:23):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (29:24):
Probably those six months of your life.
It was pretty cool.
SPEAKER_03 (29:26):
Tapophilia.
Tapophilia.
SPEAKER_02 (29:30):
Tapophilia.
SPEAKER_03 (29:31):
What does that sound like?
SPEAKER_02 (29:33):
Um Tapophilia.
Taphilia, I know.
SPEAKER_03 (29:36):
Okay.
P H.
E P H I L I A.
Tapophilia.
Tapophilia.
Tapestry.
It is a fascination or obsessionwith being buried alive.
Being in an enclosed small darkspace underground.
SPEAKER_02 (29:52):
That's one of my biggest things.
SPEAKER_03 (29:52):
And it provides a super adrenaline rush for some
individuals, and they die thatway sometimes.
Well, that.
SPEAKER_02 (30:00):
That would be more of like an addiction to the to
the thrill of surviving it,wouldn't it?
SPEAKER_01 (30:06):
So you can never be on the show Fear Factor where
they bury someone alive.
SPEAKER_03 (30:10):
Oh, I believe.
SPEAKER_02 (30:11):
I mean, me and my sister did some really messed up
shit when we were kids, and I'mtelling you what, I burying
alive or suffocation.
SPEAKER_03 (30:19):
Covering her up in the sandpile was not the same
thing, Bobby, or putting thatcat poop all on her.
That was not the same thing.
Okay, what about Vora VoraRaphaelia?
SPEAKER_02 (30:32):
It would really help if you would have like looked up
the pronunciations of thesethings.
Okay.
SPEAKER_03 (30:37):
Vora Raphaelia.
SPEAKER_02 (30:40):
Vora Raphaelia?
Raphaelia.
SPEAKER_03 (30:44):
Vora Raphaelia.
SPEAKER_02 (30:46):
It sounds like you're having a stroke.
SPEAKER_03 (30:50):
You're so hurtful.
I am.
That is an erotic desire toeither consume or be consumed by
another person or creature.
Cannibalism.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (31:04):
I wouldn't say it's erotic, but I'm saying if when
in Rome, if I'm on a Win inRome?
If I'm on a listen, hey, ifeverybody else is eating
everybody else, I'm just gonnago for it.
I'm against cannibalism.
Fred R makeup medium rare.
But if I'm at a place wherethey're, you know, like they're
(31:25):
like a plane rather than.
Or like they practicecannibalism and they're like,
hey, do you want to try this?
I'm not passing that up.
Oh my god!
SPEAKER_03 (31:34):
Absolutely not.
Okay, see, I have to cut thatout of the show now.
Yes, I do.
Because you are a freakingfreak.
I've heard that the face fleshtastes a little fishy.
Okay, stop.
But stop.
Oh my gosh, people.
I want you to know that.
Listen, I'm just saying if therewas a plane rat.
She's joking around here.
Or if I was on a deserted islandwhere they were active.
SPEAKER_00 (31:57):
That's a matter of survival.
That's certainly.
But I'm saying, like, if you'renot, you're not just going, oh,
they're passing around the horsd'oeuvre tray of fingers.
I'm gonna have one.
SPEAKER_02 (32:04):
That looks like my mom's let's say I'm down, you
know, like in the Amazon andthere's some un unknown tribe,
and I find them and they'relike, hey, do you want to try
this guy's leg?
I'm probably gonna be like, it'scooked.
unknown (32:18):
Oh my god.
SPEAKER_02 (32:21):
Oh my god.
SPEAKER_03 (32:24):
Oh, please, please, listeners.
Now you know what I've beendealing with.
Okay.
Now, now you know the rest ofthis.
You're gonna tell me that if youhad the opportunity, no, no, to
even if I was starving to death,there's a pretty good chance I
wouldn't, I still wouldn'treally, you would not eat a
(32:46):
person for your own survival.
I wouldn't what if they werealready dead and frozen?
No, not doing it.
Oh no, you're insane.
No, wouldn't do it.
I'd die first.
SPEAKER_00 (32:54):
If are you talking about a matter of survival or
just to oh my god, oh my god.
SPEAKER_02 (33:00):
Okay, like let's say you you crash in the candies.
Oh, not crashing in the Andesand the survivors are frozen in
the plane, and you build a fireand you're like, oh my god, it's
day nine, we haven't hadanything to eat, but Bob in the
plane is still frozen.
What if we just take one of hislegs and we cook it for
(33:22):
survival?
That's for survival.
But I'm saying you wouldn't dothat.
SPEAKER_03 (33:26):
No, I wouldn't.
I couldn't.
SPEAKER_02 (33:27):
I'd eat it like a chicken leg at the Iowa State
Fair.
SPEAKER_01 (33:30):
I think there's a bit different.
SPEAKER_03 (33:35):
If it was for survival, Bobby, you need to
clarify that.
SPEAKER_02 (33:39):
If it was for survival, I would eat it like a
chicken leg at the Iowa StateFair.
Oh my gosh.
SPEAKER_03 (33:44):
Put that sucker up.
SPEAKER_02 (33:46):
Oh my gosh.
The fact that you would the factthat you would have the survival
mechanism of No, I would diefirst.
I would die first.
So where's the line?
Would you eat a horse if youwouldn't need a survival snake?
I wouldn't eat a snake.
Okay, so you wouldn't eat asnake.
Would you eat a horse?
Um possibly for survival.
I'm talking purely for survival.
SPEAKER_03 (34:07):
Purely for survival.
What about a dog?
I would eat a dog if it waspurely for survival.
Yeah.
Right.
Uh no, because I carry too manydiseases.
Well, I'm saying non-disease,you know, just cook it up.
SPEAKER_02 (34:18):
But you draw the line at humans.
Absolutely.
SPEAKER_03 (34:26):
Oh my goodness, yes.
SPEAKER_02 (34:28):
That's insane.
SPEAKER_03 (34:29):
I have that's cut it all out of this show.
SPEAKER_02 (34:32):
That's insane to me that you would not survive.
You would not have theself-preservation.
Here's my address.
Could you send someone rightaway?
So I have this obsession withirritating the shit out of mom.
SPEAKER_03 (34:42):
So let's make that perfectly clear because I think
people are thinking that you'reserious, Bobby, so stop it.
Uh piquerism.
Piquerism.
And I think we should know whatthis is.
SPEAKER_01 (34:55):
You're not allowed to ask more if you can't
pronounce them.
SPEAKER_03 (34:59):
Let's say pickerism.
SPEAKER_02 (35:00):
Pique my interest.
SPEAKER_03 (35:02):
P-I-Q-U.
P-A-R-I-S-M.
SPEAKER_02 (35:05):
Pick Pickerism.
Picker?
Eating your buggers.
SPEAKER_03 (35:09):
No, but it's a compulsive for piercing the
flesh of others with sharpknives.
Or with sharp objects.
SPEAKER_02 (35:17):
Sharp objects.
Oh, so like um what is itsuspension?
Suspension play.
Like where they put the hooks inthe body and then suspend.
Oh, yeah.
And it's uh yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (35:27):
It was like the that movie with Dustin Hoffman where
they use the eagle claws andthey pull the claims.
SPEAKER_03 (35:33):
On the nipples.
Oh yeah, that was so gross.
SPEAKER_01 (35:35):
I don't remember the name of it.
SPEAKER_03 (35:36):
Yeah.
You know, I thought this episodetoday was gonna be like, you
know, your sister has thisobsession with not letting her
food touch each other on aplate.
You know, that kind of thingweird.
SPEAKER_02 (35:47):
You know, that's actually a thing.
SPEAKER_03 (35:49):
And yeah, you know, the fact that I probably have
more sunglasses than anybodyever needs.
And boots.
Uh I don't know about that, butum, you know, those kind of
obsessions.
But no, what happens?
We lead down this road that nowI'm gonna be walking out of here
and I'm gonna be havingnightmares about you more so
than I am Ed Geen.
(36:10):
I mean, I wouldn't eat you justfor fun.
That's all I'm saying.
SPEAKER_02 (36:13):
I wouldn't eat just for fun.
SPEAKER_03 (36:14):
Well, that's good to know, Bobby.
Good to know.
Well, I gotta be honest withyou.
I think that's pretty much allwe've got for today because I
don't think I can take itanymore here.
This is just crazy.
So um, oh my gosh, I can't evenI can't even do the outro.
Uh, we appreciate y'all joiningus here at the rabbit hole
studio every week.
(36:35):
Uh, if you have a topic, andplease don't let it be on this
obsession thing.
And please, please do not writein about Bobby.
You can just message medirectly.
Oh my gosh.
If you have a topic that youwould like us to talk about, or
if you have some comments uhthat you want to share with us,
certainly uh recipes.
(36:56):
Recipes.
Oh my gosh, I can't even getthrough this.
So I'm just gonna say I'm JaneBurke.
And I'm Bobby Joy.
And you're stuck with us.
SPEAKER_02 (37:08):
Peace out later.
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