April 22, 2025 • 27 mins
A boomer and a Gen Xer walk into a bar... and end up debating whether fur babies or human babies make more sense in today's world. Jane (the boomer) and her daughter Bobbi Joy bring their characteristic wit and occasional smart-assery to one of the most polarizing topics in modern family planning: pets versus kids.
Jane kicks things off by questioning the growing trend of "anthropomorphism" – people who treat their pets like human children by pushing them in strollers or dressing them in elaborate outfits. As the owner of two Rhodesian Ridgebacks who "run hellbent for leather" on her rural property, she finds these practices puzzling, if not downright ridiculous. Meanwhile, Bobbi Joy approaches the topic from a different angle, exploring why more young adults are consciously choosing pets over parenthood.
Their conversation cuts through the standard arguments with refreshing honesty. From the financial realities (pets don't need college funds or cars) to emotional benefits (unconditional love without teenage attitude), they dissect the practical differences between raising animals versus humans. When Bobbi points out that only 9% of rental properties allow pets without significant restrictions, she asks the uncomfortable question: "Have you seen what little kids do to rentals?"
Whether you're a dedicated pet parent who treats your dog like royalty or a harried human parent wondering if you should have gotten a goldfish instead, this conversation will make you laugh while considering the changing nature of family in contemporary society. Join us for this thought-provoking, occasionally irreverent discussion – and please share your own thoughts by emailing boomerandgenxer@gmail.com!
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Welcome everyone to today's show.
A boomer and a Gen Xer walkinto a bar, coming to you from
Half Rabbit Hole Studio, HalfRabbit Run Studio, where you, as
a listener, will experiencesome wit and wisdom, some smart
assery and a mother and daughterquestioning.
Are we even related?
My name is Bobbi Joy and myco-host is my mom, Jane, and we
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are here to entertain you for alittle bit.
And I say half rabbit run andhalf rabbit hole because our
tech guy is not even here withus and it has just run amok.
It has.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
It's crazy, man crazy .
We don't realize how much weneed him until he's not here.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
At the very least he sits between us.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Yes, and keeps us from killing each other most
times.
What's our topic for today,Bobby?
We've talked about several andwe've gotten some ideas from
some of our listeners.
What's our topic today?
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Today we're going to do kind of a fun one, but I
think that we kind of took ittwo different ways.
So today we're going to talkabout pets versus kids.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Pets versus kids.
You mean we have a choice?
Because if that were the case,I'd have traded you for a dog or
a cat a long time ago.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Well, we know that, ain't true?
You're too clean for that.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
So what was it we're going to talk about?
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Well, I P, well I children or pets, and children
or or like you know which wouldwin in the battle dome?
I guess, no, no, no, I see,when we were talking about this,
you know, we we had.
We don't really talk a lotbeforehand before we record our
shows, but you had mentionedsomething along the lines of, um
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, I think it was like peopletreating their kids like, or
their pets like kids, treatingtheir kids like pets.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
There's a word for that, by the way.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
There's a word for that, yeah, anthropomorphism.
I learned that word a long timeago.
Oh my gosh.
Thank you for tapping in there,Dr Domain.
I don't think I could even sayit, just trying to raise the
intelligence level a little seehe's far away.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
He can't get slapped right now yeah, keep trying,
keep trying.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Well, the reason that I had mentioned it to you is
because periodically I will seesomething that I feel is sheer
silliness is when somebody ispushing a dog or a cat around in
a stroller, or they aredressing their animals up in
clothing or they are you knowhow do I say this without it
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being very distasteful, I guessI won't they're kind of sharing
their food out of both you knowtheir mouth and their animal
animals mouth at the same time.
It's kind of it grosses me outand sometimes I just think holy
moly, you know that's a pet andthey lick their butts well, I
mean, like with the strollerthing, I could see it, you know,
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with like older pets, thingslike that.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
but let's be honest, I eight, nine-year-old kids in
strollers, like why the hell arewe doing that?
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Well, that's a good point too.
But I guess I just feel likesome people even will talk to me
about you know what I feed mydogs?
Because I have two RhodesianRidgebacks and they run hellbent
for leather.
On our properties we havetimber, we have ponds, we have
all kinds of things here andthose dogs will.
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And if anybody is familiar withRhodesian Ridgebacks, they were
bred to hunt large animals likelions and things like that.
And these dogs are strong.
I mean, they will take down acoyote pretty easily, they'll
take down a deer and they have,and they've drug them around the
yard pretty proudly.
But you know, so my dogs havebeen exposed to quite a bit and
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they've been torn up and youknow they come back with their,
with their finds and their giftsfor me.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
but you know, but they eat pretty well because
they're eating the deer, they'reeating the.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
You know what they catch, and well, they kind of
chew on it a little bit.
They'll chew on the bones.
But my dogs do eat pretty welland I've had somebody look at me
before and talk to me about youknow well I wouldn't give my
dog a hot dog or I wouldn't givemy dog this or that.
I want my dog to have you knowreally good food.
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And I think are we serious here?
Cause I've seen you what youfeed your fat little kids and
they're down and they're hotdogs and brats and you know
crappy cheeseburgers and allthat stuff.
And now you're worried aboutyour dog might have a heart
attack or something.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Well, I mean, my dog eats cat poop too, so I don't
think that she's that thatparticular in exactly what goes
in her mouth, as long as shegets it.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Well, I just sometimes.
I just think, you know, peoplelook at their animals and they
seem to be a little bit more, Idon't know, interested or
concerned about how they treattheir pets, and they do their
own kids, and you know, I guessI'd kind of like to know what
our listeners think.
But, bobby, how do you feelabout it?
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I mean, would you ever put yourdog, your dog's, a hundred
pounds?
Would you ever put your dog ina wagon or something and pull it
?
Speaker 1 (05:19):
I don't think I could get her into the wagon if she
wasn't willing to go.
No, I, I, I prefer the largebreed dogs, dogs I do see a lot
of people, you know, with the.
We've put a hoodie on her, youknow, when it was really cold
when she was a puppy and stufflike that when she had to go
outside.
But I mean, you have carharttcoats for your dogs yes, I do I
do, because you know it gets 30below here, 30 below factors and
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seeing when we were, when wewere doing this topic, thinking
like which would you rather have, pets or kids?
And so I got this whole list ofshit like why we don't want
kids, we want pets.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Well, hey, we're going to talk about that.
We're going to talk about thattoo, because I think that's a
great segue into the rest ofthis, because I think that's a
great segue into the rest ofthis.
So there are a lot of youngpeople today who are choosing to
have pets as opposed to havingchildren.
Or we have people who arewaiting a lot longer in their
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life to have children 30s and40s to have their children and
there are a lot of people nowwho are just saying, hey, I
don't even want kids.
So you know that that's a greatsegue into that.
So let's talk about that forjust a minute, because I've
already kind of bashed peoplewho dress their dogs up or their
cats up or who push them aroundin a in a stroller.
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And let me tell you why thatbothers me to push them around
in a stroller.
If it's that hot outside oryour dog is too old, leave it at
home, ok, because they'd ratherbe in the air conditioner, air
conditioning, laying on the sofaor laying in your bed.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Leave that dog at home.
You don't need to push themaround in a stroller.
Maybe my dog is old and theywant to chase the mailman.
I'll put it in the stroller andchase the mailman with it.
I mean, why not?
Speaker 2 (07:08):
you know, bobby, give me a break.
You know, the other day myneighbors uh complained because
they said my dogs were chasingthe mailman on or were chasing
people on bicycles.
And I said my dogs don't evenhave bicycles they don't know
how to ride what are you talkingabout um?
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but let's get back to this.
Yeah, I don't agree with it.
Um, when you kids were littleand even when the grandkids were
little, I don't care what agethey were uh, if we were going
somewhere where they could walk,I wanted them to walk.
You know why?
I wanted you worn out so thatyou'd take a nap and you'd sleep
at night.
Plus, you got that exercise.
It's the same way with the dog.
I don't like to see dogs downat farmer's markets and things
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like that.
When it's 100 degrees outside,I just don't like them down
there anyway because people arerunning into them.
There's nothing fun about a dogdown there on the bottom, where
they're, you know, sniffingbutts and can't see a whole lot,
and they're getting stepped onand I just don't like that, but
there's no fun for bringing kidsdown there either.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
I don't want to take my kids to the farmer's market
when they're little.
That's a pain in the ass.
It kind of, is it really?
Speaker 2 (08:20):
is and people think that kids enjoy that and it's
like what?
Maybe you're enjoying it, but Idon't know that those kids are,
so I guess.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
I can see where people you know nowadays, and
even you know back into mygeneration, they don't want kids
.
You know they don't.
They don't want kids, theydon't want to have to deal with
them.
So they get pets.
And it's kind of sad becauseyou know, even in like, let's
say, the housing market, let'ssay you need a rental property,
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only like 9% of rentals allowcompanion animals without
limitations.
And I'm like are you kidding me?
Have you seen what these littlekids have done to rentals?
And you're not going to let my10-year-old dog that can't do
anything in this rental?
Well, how?
Speaker 2 (09:06):
do you feel about the argument that pets provide
unwavering loyalty and affection?
That's incredibly comforting toa lot of people.
You know you come home and yourdog's tail's going to wag.
You come home to some kids andthey're pretty demanding.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Yeah, no, I totally agree.
I mean, listen, I'm going tostart this by saying I
absolutely love all of mychildren and I don't regret
having them.
And you know, if I had it to doover I would still have my
children.
But I totally get not havingchildren and having pets.
I just I mean there's justthere's a slew of reasons.
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I mean you know everything fromyou.
Look at a little kid, andthey're going to be 18 before
they can really go out on theirown and do anything.
A dog you spend a few weekspotty training it and that's
over with Good to go.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
You know they're full grown by the time they're a
year old and mostly trained.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
You spend a few weeks potty training it and that's
over with good to go.
You know good to go likecareful grown by the time
they're a year old and andmostly trained.
If you work with them and kidsby the time they're a year old,
they can't do nothing well,there are some pros to having
pets um, I found more pros tohaving pets than to having kids.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
I did too when I was looking at this.
So it you know pets have shownto reduce stress and improve
some mental health and that'sbecause you know it helps.
They help to lower your bloodpressure.
They even combat loneliness anddepression for quite a few
people.
And I will say, you know,before I had Dr Domain in my
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life and in between anyrelationships, my pets, my dogs,
were my companionship.
I mean, I would come home and Iknew they were here and they're
great protectors or greatwatchdogs and they definitely
will attack if somebody cameinto the house are great
watchdogs and and theydefinitely will attack if
somebody came into the house.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
So with your cat, though, you used to have that
cat vinny, and he would attackanybody.
I mean, it didn't matter, thatwas the best protection I've
ever seen in an animal he was anass ass cat, wasn't he I?
Speaker 2 (11:11):
mean I loved him, though he was so funny, because
I gotta tell people this.
So, vinny, he was a big cat, hewas like 13 pounds and he was a
big cat.
He was like 13 pounds and hewas a big cat and Vinny ruled
the roost.
There was no question about it.
And when the grandkids werelittle I remember Corey, your,
your son I remember Coreywouldn't even walk through the
door to the living room becauseVinny would come out and he
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would jump on him and bite him.
And even though the cat isreally playing, he was kind of
an ass cat though he was Iremember cory saying grandma,
he's in, he's by the doorway,and I'd go, cory, just walk
through the doorway and don'tlook at him, don't make eye cat
contact with him.
Okay, do not look at him, justwalk through there and he'd go.
(11:57):
No, grandma, last time I didthat, he bit me anyway and I'd
go, corey, just buck up, justwalk through there and don't
worry about it, and just just,you know, walk through and don't
make eye contact with him.
And every single time I wouldtalk Corey into going through
and that cat would attack himevery single time.
(12:21):
Oh my gosh, it was so funny andI know people go well, that cat
should have been put down.
Oh no, we loved him.
Yeah, we loved him.
And and vinny was just, he wasan ass cat, but he was so funny
and we knew that he was.
You know, we knew he wasplaying, he was just a rough,
rough cat well, let's talk someother points.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
I mean, since we both have so many points on, uh,
let's talk about, you know, petsversus kids, because I there's
a lot of good talking points onthis, on why people want to have
pets, you know.
And and number one, yeah,they're a commitment.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Pets are a commitment , but not for as long as kids
well, that's true, because somekids are still in their parents
basements.
At 40 years old, cat or thedog's not gonna live right,
unless you have a parent namedClyde.
That well, that's forever that'strue because parrots and
cockatoos and cockatiels andthose big birds, they do live a
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long time.
So pets know, even though wehave to feed them, they have to
go get shots, we have all ofthat going on with them.
They are really kind of a lowerfinancial and time commitment
for us because they don't haveto have constant, you know, just
constant attention.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
And there's no diapers.
Well, mostly there's no diapers.
There's no college, there's nocars, there's no diapers,
there's no college, there's nocars, there's no prom.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
There's no bailing them out of jail.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
But you don't do that anyway.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
No, I never did.
Of course, your kids neverended up in jail, but thank God
for that.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Like you know pets they can be left alone after a
year.
Try doing that with a littlekid.
Try leaving a one-year-old homealone all day while you go to
work.
They can be left alone after ayear.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Try doing that with a little kid.
Try leaving a one-year-old homealone all day while you go to
work.
They don't like that.
I did do that and I gotarrested for it.
No, I'm kidding.
I'm kidding, Never did do that.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
There are some cons to having pets, though, what do
you think some of the cons are?
Well, like I mentioned earlier,if you're trying to find a
place to live, that's a rentalthey're very discriminatory
against pets.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
They do charge you a lot more to have a pet.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
If they allow it at all.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Yeah, if they allow it at all, that's true.
What about the lifespan?
I mean going through a lifewith a cat or a dog that's
heart-wrenching.
To lose a fur baby, I mean itreally and truly is, and it
doesn't matter if it's a horse,a dog, a cat, whatever it is,
it's hard to lose.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
It is, it is, and it breaks me apart every time but
you know that you're not goingto have that pet for your entire
life.
I mean, you know that, you knowthe lifespan, you know you know
what's expected and things likethat.
And I honestly, I think itmakes it easier to have a pet
versus a kid, because and I knowthis sounds, I know this sounds
morbid, but you know, you got akid, you got a kid for life.
You got a pet.
You got a pet for their life,you know so true, that is true.
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In 10, 20 years.
You know that most likely thatpet's going to have moved on and
you know passed away and thingslike that.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
Over the rainbow bridge or whatever.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
You know, with pets you can humanely put them down.
Yeah, you can't.
You can't euthanize a person.
Not here, anyway, not here.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
You're going to go to go to prison.
There are, there are somelimitations when I think about
having my pets, because I dotravel a lot.
Uh, we do go, you know, backand forth to georgia because we
have the two homes and they'refor the longest time when I
would take a trip, and some ofmy trips were long, even when I
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was working, you know I I had togo out of the country a lot.
It's costly, it is so costly toboard an animal.
You know, for my two dogs, 10days of boarding would easily
reach seven, eight, nine hundreddollars.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
So you're talking about triple that for a kid to
board them.
Well, you know, if you, if youhad to find somebody to watch a
child that was not able to stayon their own, I mean it would be
triple that for a trip.
And you know, down in Georgia,you guys, you know, have the
house and everything.
Now pets are portable.
You know, you can stick a caton your dashboard and drive down
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there, you can stick the dogsin the back of the truck or, you
know, in the cab of the truckand just go.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Yeah, and that is beneficial for us to be able to
take the pets.
You can take your kids, youtake your pets, you know, if you
can.
We sometimes have had to payextra to have the pets with us,
especially since we've got themotor home we've had to pull in.
We have to make sure that it'spet friendly.
Um, some of the pros I will sayto having children unless
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you're raising two hellcats likeI had to is obviously you've
got lifelong relationships right.
So possibly, well, wedefinitely want to out, uh, have
our children and grandchildrenoutlive us.
I mean, what?
What a horrible, horriblesituation that people have gone
through that have ever lost, youknow, a child or grandchild.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
You went dark with that one.
I was just thinking maybe thekid is an asshole and you don't
want to have them around you.
You know from 25.
God, you went dark on that one.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Wow, I'm sorry.
I just you know, I just I worryabout my kids and grandkids all
the time and so you know, ofcourse, maybe I went down the
wrong road with that.
I don't know dogs to a guy atmy age better than I can explain
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the fact that I have threechildren.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
You know what I mean.
Like if I go up and I'm likehey, how's it going?
Oh, do you have any kids?
No, but I have three dogs,that's a lot easier in the
dating world than saying, ohyeah, I got, you know 10 kids,
type of thing because that guydoesn't want to get strapped
with those 10 kids he'll takecare of dogs.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
He'll let the dogs out, that's right but he's gonna
daddy up on those, on thosebabies, you know.
The other thing is is, you know, one of the pros for having
children is really just kind ofthe watching the personal growth
and fulfillment of those kids,unless you, you know, they're
drug addicts or you know couldgo either way.
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Because every parent, or mostparents I shouldn't say every
parent, but most parents havehad those trying times, whether
it's with a teenager or a youngadolescent, or even, you know,
as the kids get older, as youkids got older, you know, I was
always fearful, you know.
Did you have a job?
Are you making your bills?
Are you staying out of trouble?
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Are you staying away from drugs?
Are you staying away fromalcohol?
Are you making good decisions?
Those don't go away, and Idon't care how old you are, that
does not ever go away.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Okay, but you're making a point to have pets, not
kids at this point you weretrying to say kids are better
than anyone into this wholedownward slope, like here we go
into the rabbit hole.
It's boomer, so I can wanderoff.
Periodically she's wandering,okay.
Well, let's talk about this.
Listen, in a survival typething, if, like, let's say, an
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apocalypse like Mad Max days orzombie apocalypse type thing
happens, I don't want kids, Idon't want some little kid
crying about something.
I'd rather have a dog or a catthat could go out and hunt for
me type of thing.
Even a cat would bring me abird.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Yeah, If the dogs go out and drag a deer up'm good
with that.
I know I can go ahead and skinthat and fry that baby instead
of mom.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
I'm hungry.
Mom, my feet hurt.
Mom, when are we gonna stop?
Are we there yet?
Speaker 2 (20:13):
so you know, obviously I will say I had my
kids at a pretty young age.
I uh got married at 17 and andhad my first kid at 18.
Now, that's not something thatI would advocate by any stretch
of the imagination.
Yeah, but that was back in theday.
That was back in the day on theold wilderness farms, you know,
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where they were marrying theircousins or something.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
That was back when they were settling the West and
they needed to reproduce earlybecause the cholera would take
them at 30.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
We needed somebody to work the farms now.
But one of the things that youknow I guess is beneficial for
me is I did have my girls young.
I didn't have any money when Iwas young, so I raised them when
I was young.
I didn't have any money when Iwas young, so I raised them when
I was young and now they're outof the house, of course, and
they've got their own kids andnow I can travel and do my own
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thing and and you know, I havethe pet, I have the two dogs.
So I guess I'm glad I had mykids young.
But you mentioned it earliertoo is there are people who are
waiting to have kids.
Yeah, even having kids at all.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Yeah, because they have pets well, and the benefits
to have children in today'sworld and economy just aren't
there anymore yeah, yeah, that'strue and you know, I think you
know pets give people what theyneed.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
They want that fundamental security, they want
that companionship, they want tobe able to give something love
and get love back.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
They want to trap an animal inside the house and not
let him out and say you have tolove me.
Yeah, no, my cats want to livewith me.
Don't let them out of the door.
Don't let them out.
Don't let them out.
Oh my gosh me.
Don't let them out of the door.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Don't let them out oh my gosh, you just let them out.
Oh my goodness.
But what I was trying to get atwas, uh, a lot of people just
really, you know, are not havingchildren, and that's okay.
You know, back in the day youwere kind of and I don't want to
say it was frowned upon, butpeople would ask you when are
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you going to have kids?
When are you going to have kids?
When are you going to have kids?
Ain't nobody asking, nobody anyof that business anymore.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Nope, I always ask why do you want to have kids?
Are you crazy?
Would you like mine for a day,just so that you get off of that
one.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Loan a kid for a day, just so that you get off of
that one.
Lone a kid.
Lone a kid, that'll change yourmind right there.
So we did kind of go off onanother tangent there and that
was okay.
But I'm kind of interested inwhat our listeners are doing and
please don't hate on me ifyou're dressing the cat or dog
up or pushing them around in astroller.
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I'm just telling you, I thinkit's idiotic.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
So don't hate on me for saying that.
You know a lot of people getmore benefits out of pets than
they do kids, and good for them,I'm for it.
Round of applause yes.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
We love the kids, we love the grandkids.
We have a great time with them.
We're so fortunate to have themin our lives.
We're very, very blessed inthat respect.
But we do love our animals too.
But I just wanted to say realquick I did, you know, have
somebody at one point because Itreat my animals as pets.
I do not treat them likechildren.
You can call me a fur mama ifyou want to, but I am a pet
(23:37):
owner and I would never put myyou know, put a dress on one of
my dogs or anything like that.
They would, they would eat itanyway, but um, I I kind of got
chastised a little bit at onepoint from somebody, because it
does get really cold here iniowa in the winter time.
(23:59):
And bobby was correct.
I have Carhartts for the dogs,carhartt coats.
They don't wear them all thetime, they wear them when it's
extremely cold.
And my dogs love to ride in thepickup truck.
They do not ride up on theseats.
My dogs don't get a ride upthere, but they love, love, love
riding in the back.
And somebody had asked me onetime what if they jump out?
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Well, they'll only do it once,jesus Christ.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
And my dogs Same with kids, though They'll only do it
once.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
So my dogs love riding in the back and they stay
in the back and I never have toworry about them jumping out
for any reason.
They are very well trained andthey love riding in the back.
But I did go into a store oneday and I want to say it was
Bomgars, because they allow dogsin the store, and I had them on
leashes, of course, and it wasa little chilly, but it wasn't
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bad.
I mean, the dogs rode in theback, you know, to get there and
and I don't you know I don'tmistreat my dogs by any stretch
of the imagination but they didnot have coats on.
And some lady said to me as Iwalked in, she said that's
animal abuse right there, and Ididn't know who the hell she was
(25:15):
talking to or about and I gowhat.
And she said that's animalabuse.
You know, you should have coatson those, those dogs.
And I go, it's not, it's notthat cold.
I mean it wasn't cold, itwasn't like even 30 degrees, it
was.
You know, it was a nice day andI go what goes, you should have
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coats on those dogs.
That's animal abuse.
And I did get angry and I thinkI said something to the effect
of.
You know these are farm dogs,they're not frickin' only I use
the other word frickin' housecats and just walked away.
But you know some people havegotten chastised for leaving
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their animals in the vehicle andyou know you kind of watch out
for that right.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Well yeah, especially when it's hot.
I mean, you don't do that kindof crap.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
I mean you wouldn't leave your kid in there.
I would be hopeful that youwould never leave your kid in
there.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
I don't know.
There's been a lot of cases ofkids leaving their cars.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Oh, my goodness, oh my goodness you know that's a
whole other podcast right thereleaving your kids in the car and
saying you know, somebody wrotesomething really stupid like
put your left shoe back there.
So you remember that.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
Put something important back there.
It's not freaking important.
Yeah, my kids.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
So, yeah, but I think that's probably all that we
have for today.
Bobby, we appreciate youjoining us here at the Rabbit
Hole and Rabbit Run Studio, sobe sure to follow us.
We look forward to spendingtime with you each week.
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If you have hate mail, we'renot interested in that.
We do take good criticism andwe're happy to do that, but I
think that's it for this week.
So until next week, I'm JaneBurt and I'm Bobbi Joy, and
you're stuck with us.
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Welcome everyone to today's show.
A boomer and a Gen Xer walkinto a bar, coming to you from
Half Rabbit Hole Studio, HalfRabbit Run Studio, where you, as
a listener, will experiencesome wit and wisdom, some smart
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Are we even related?
My name is Bobbi Joy and myco-host is my mom, Jane, and we
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are here to entertain you for alittle bit.
And I say half rabbit run andhalf rabbit hole because our
tech guy is not even here withus and it has just run amok.
It has.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
It's crazy, man crazy .
We don't realize how much weneed him until he's not here.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
At the very least he sits between us.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Yes, and keeps us from killing each other most
times.
What's our topic for today,Bobby?
We've talked about several andwe've gotten some ideas from
some of our listeners.
What's our topic today?
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Today we're going to do kind of a fun one, but I
think that we kind of took ittwo different ways.
So today we're going to talkabout pets versus kids.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Pets versus kids.
You mean we have a choice?
Because if that were the case,I'd have traded you for a dog or
a cat a long time ago.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Well, we know that, ain't true?
You're too clean for that.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
So what was it we're going to talk about?
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Well, I P, well I children or pets, and children
or or like you know which wouldwin in the battle dome?
I guess, no, no, no, I see,when we were talking about this,
you know, we we had.
We don't really talk a lotbeforehand before we record our
shows, but you had mentionedsomething along the lines of, um
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, I think it was like peopletreating their kids like, or
their pets like kids, treatingtheir kids like pets.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
There's a word for that, by the way.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
There's a word for that, yeah, anthropomorphism.
I learned that word a long timeago.
Oh my gosh.
Thank you for tapping in there,Dr Domain.
I don't think I could even sayit, just trying to raise the
intelligence level a little seehe's far away.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
He can't get slapped right now yeah, keep trying,
keep trying.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Well, the reason that I had mentioned it to you is
because periodically I will seesomething that I feel is sheer
silliness is when somebody ispushing a dog or a cat around in
a stroller, or they aredressing their animals up in
clothing or they are you knowhow do I say this without it
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being very distasteful, I guessI won't they're kind of sharing
their food out of both you knowtheir mouth and their animal
animals mouth at the same time.
It's kind of it grosses me outand sometimes I just think holy
moly, you know that's a pet andthey lick their butts well, I
mean, like with the strollerthing, I could see it, you know,
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with like older pets, thingslike that.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
but let's be honest, I eight, nine-year-old kids in
strollers, like why the hell arewe doing that?
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Well, that's a good point too.
But I guess I just feel likesome people even will talk to me
about you know what I feed mydogs?
Because I have two RhodesianRidgebacks and they run hellbent
for leather.
On our properties we havetimber, we have ponds, we have
all kinds of things here andthose dogs will.
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And if anybody is familiar withRhodesian Ridgebacks, they were
bred to hunt large animals likelions and things like that.
And these dogs are strong.
I mean, they will take down acoyote pretty easily, they'll
take down a deer and they have,and they've drug them around the
yard pretty proudly.
But you know, so my dogs havebeen exposed to quite a bit and
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they've been torn up and youknow they come back with their,
with their finds and their giftsfor me.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
but you know, but they eat pretty well because
they're eating the deer, they'reeating the.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
You know what they catch, and well, they kind of
chew on it a little bit.
They'll chew on the bones.
But my dogs do eat pretty welland I've had somebody look at me
before and talk to me about youknow well I wouldn't give my
dog a hot dog or I wouldn't givemy dog this or that.
I want my dog to have you knowreally good food.
(04:24):
And I think are we serious here?
Cause I've seen you what youfeed your fat little kids and
they're down and they're hotdogs and brats and you know
crappy cheeseburgers and allthat stuff.
And now you're worried aboutyour dog might have a heart
attack or something.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Well, I mean, my dog eats cat poop too, so I don't
think that she's that thatparticular in exactly what goes
in her mouth, as long as shegets it.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Well, I just sometimes.
I just think, you know, peoplelook at their animals and they
seem to be a little bit more, Idon't know, interested or
concerned about how they treattheir pets, and they do their
own kids, and you know, I guessI'd kind of like to know what
our listeners think.
But, bobby, how do you feelabout it?
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I mean, would you ever put yourdog, your dog's, a hundred
pounds?
Would you ever put your dog ina wagon or something and pull it
?
Speaker 1 (05:19):
I don't think I could get her into the wagon if she
wasn't willing to go.
No, I, I, I prefer the largebreed dogs, dogs I do see a lot
of people, you know, with the.
We've put a hoodie on her, youknow, when it was really cold
when she was a puppy and stufflike that when she had to go
outside.
But I mean, you have carharttcoats for your dogs yes, I do I
do, because you know it gets 30below here, 30 below factors and
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seeing when we were, when wewere doing this topic, thinking
like which would you rather have, pets or kids?
And so I got this whole list ofshit like why we don't want
kids, we want pets.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Well, hey, we're going to talk about that.
We're going to talk about thattoo, because I think that's a
great segue into the rest ofthis, because I think that's a
great segue into the rest ofthis.
So there are a lot of youngpeople today who are choosing to
have pets as opposed to havingchildren.
Or we have people who arewaiting a lot longer in their
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life to have children 30s and40s to have their children and
there are a lot of people nowwho are just saying, hey, I
don't even want kids.
So you know that that's a greatsegue into that.
So let's talk about that forjust a minute, because I've
already kind of bashed peoplewho dress their dogs up or their
cats up or who push them aroundin a in a stroller.
(06:43):
And let me tell you why thatbothers me to push them around
in a stroller.
If it's that hot outside oryour dog is too old, leave it at
home, ok, because they'd ratherbe in the air conditioner, air
conditioning, laying on the sofaor laying in your bed.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Leave that dog at home.
You don't need to push themaround in a stroller.
Maybe my dog is old and theywant to chase the mailman.
I'll put it in the stroller andchase the mailman with it.
I mean, why not?
Speaker 2 (07:08):
you know, bobby, give me a break.
You know, the other day myneighbors uh complained because
they said my dogs were chasingthe mailman on or were chasing
people on bicycles.
And I said my dogs don't evenhave bicycles they don't know
how to ride what are you talkingabout um?
(07:29):
but let's get back to this.
Yeah, I don't agree with it.
Um, when you kids were littleand even when the grandkids were
little, I don't care what agethey were uh, if we were going
somewhere where they could walk,I wanted them to walk.
You know why?
I wanted you worn out so thatyou'd take a nap and you'd sleep
at night.
Plus, you got that exercise.
It's the same way with the dog.
I don't like to see dogs downat farmer's markets and things
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like that.
When it's 100 degrees outside,I just don't like them down
there anyway because people arerunning into them.
There's nothing fun about a dogdown there on the bottom, where
they're, you know, sniffingbutts and can't see a whole lot,
and they're getting stepped onand I just don't like that, but
there's no fun for bringing kidsdown there either.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
I don't want to take my kids to the farmer's market
when they're little.
That's a pain in the ass.
It kind of, is it really?
Speaker 2 (08:20):
is and people think that kids enjoy that and it's
like what?
Maybe you're enjoying it, but Idon't know that those kids are,
so I guess.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
I can see where people you know nowadays, and
even you know back into mygeneration, they don't want kids
.
You know they don't.
They don't want kids, theydon't want to have to deal with
them.
So they get pets.
And it's kind of sad becauseyou know, even in like, let's
say, the housing market, let'ssay you need a rental property,
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only like 9% of rentals allowcompanion animals without
limitations.
And I'm like are you kidding me?
Have you seen what these littlekids have done to rentals?
And you're not going to let my10-year-old dog that can't do
anything in this rental?
Well, how?
Speaker 2 (09:06):
do you feel about the argument that pets provide
unwavering loyalty and affection?
That's incredibly comforting toa lot of people.
You know you come home and yourdog's tail's going to wag.
You come home to some kids andthey're pretty demanding.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Yeah, no, I totally agree.
I mean, listen, I'm going tostart this by saying I
absolutely love all of mychildren and I don't regret
having them.
And you know, if I had it to doover I would still have my
children.
But I totally get not havingchildren and having pets.
I just I mean there's justthere's a slew of reasons.
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I mean you know everything fromyou.
Look at a little kid, andthey're going to be 18 before
they can really go out on theirown and do anything.
A dog you spend a few weekspotty training it and that's
over with Good to go.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
You know they're full grown by the time they're a
year old and mostly trained.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
You spend a few weeks potty training it and that's
over with good to go.
You know good to go likecareful grown by the time
they're a year old and andmostly trained.
If you work with them and kidsby the time they're a year old,
they can't do nothing well,there are some pros to having
pets um, I found more pros tohaving pets than to having kids.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
I did too when I was looking at this.
So it you know pets have shownto reduce stress and improve
some mental health and that'sbecause you know it helps.
They help to lower your bloodpressure.
They even combat loneliness anddepression for quite a few
people.
And I will say, you know,before I had Dr Domain in my
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life and in between anyrelationships, my pets, my dogs,
were my companionship.
I mean, I would come home and Iknew they were here and they're
great protectors or greatwatchdogs and they definitely
will attack if somebody cameinto the house are great
watchdogs and and theydefinitely will attack if
somebody came into the house.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
So with your cat, though, you used to have that
cat vinny, and he would attackanybody.
I mean, it didn't matter, thatwas the best protection I've
ever seen in an animal he was anass ass cat, wasn't he I?
Speaker 2 (11:11):
mean I loved him, though he was so funny, because
I gotta tell people this.
So, vinny, he was a big cat, hewas like 13 pounds and he was a
big cat.
He was like 13 pounds and hewas a big cat and Vinny ruled
the roost.
There was no question about it.
And when the grandkids werelittle I remember Corey, your,
your son I remember Coreywouldn't even walk through the
door to the living room becauseVinny would come out and he
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would jump on him and bite him.
And even though the cat isreally playing, he was kind of
an ass cat though he was Iremember cory saying grandma,
he's in, he's by the doorway,and I'd go, cory, just walk
through the doorway and don'tlook at him, don't make eye cat
contact with him.
Okay, do not look at him, justwalk through there and he'd go.
(11:57):
No, grandma, last time I didthat, he bit me anyway and I'd
go, corey, just buck up, justwalk through there and don't
worry about it, and just just,you know, walk through and don't
make eye contact with him.
And every single time I wouldtalk Corey into going through
and that cat would attack himevery single time.
(12:21):
Oh my gosh, it was so funny andI know people go well, that cat
should have been put down.
Oh no, we loved him.
Yeah, we loved him.
And and vinny was just, he wasan ass cat, but he was so funny
and we knew that he was.
You know, we knew he wasplaying, he was just a rough,
rough cat well, let's talk someother points.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
I mean, since we both have so many points on, uh,
let's talk about, you know, petsversus kids, because I there's
a lot of good talking points onthis, on why people want to have
pets, you know.
And and number one, yeah,they're a commitment.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Pets are a commitment , but not for as long as kids
well, that's true, because somekids are still in their parents
basements.
At 40 years old, cat or thedog's not gonna live right,
unless you have a parent namedClyde.
That well, that's forever that'strue because parrots and
cockatoos and cockatiels andthose big birds, they do live a
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long time.
So pets know, even though wehave to feed them, they have to
go get shots, we have all ofthat going on with them.
They are really kind of a lowerfinancial and time commitment
for us because they don't haveto have constant, you know, just
constant attention.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
And there's no diapers.
Well, mostly there's no diapers.
There's no college, there's nocars, there's no diapers,
there's no college, there's nocars, there's no prom.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
There's no bailing them out of jail.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
But you don't do that anyway.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
No, I never did.
Of course, your kids neverended up in jail, but thank God
for that.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Like you know pets they can be left alone after a
year.
Try doing that with a littlekid.
Try leaving a one-year-old homealone all day while you go to
work.
They can be left alone after ayear.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Try doing that with a little kid.
Try leaving a one-year-old homealone all day while you go to
work.
They don't like that.
I did do that and I gotarrested for it.
No, I'm kidding.
I'm kidding, Never did do that.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
There are some cons to having pets, though, what do
you think some of the cons are?
Well, like I mentioned earlier,if you're trying to find a
place to live, that's a rentalthey're very discriminatory
against pets.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
They do charge you a lot more to have a pet.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
If they allow it at all.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Yeah, if they allow it at all, that's true.
What about the lifespan?
I mean going through a lifewith a cat or a dog that's
heart-wrenching.
To lose a fur baby, I mean itreally and truly is, and it
doesn't matter if it's a horse,a dog, a cat, whatever it is,
it's hard to lose.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
It is, it is, and it breaks me apart every time but
you know that you're not goingto have that pet for your entire
life.
I mean, you know that, you knowthe lifespan, you know you know
what's expected and things likethat.
And I honestly, I think itmakes it easier to have a pet
versus a kid, because and I knowthis sounds, I know this sounds
morbid, but you know, you got akid, you got a kid for life.
You got a pet.
You got a pet for their life,you know so true, that is true.
(15:15):
In 10, 20 years.
You know that most likely thatpet's going to have moved on and
you know passed away and thingslike that.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
Over the rainbow bridge or whatever.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
You know, with pets you can humanely put them down.
Yeah, you can't.
You can't euthanize a person.
Not here, anyway, not here.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
You're going to go to go to prison.
There are, there are somelimitations when I think about
having my pets, because I dotravel a lot.
Uh, we do go, you know, backand forth to georgia because we
have the two homes and they'refor the longest time when I
would take a trip, and some ofmy trips were long, even when I
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was working, you know I I had togo out of the country a lot.
It's costly, it is so costly toboard an animal.
You know, for my two dogs, 10days of boarding would easily
reach seven, eight, nine hundreddollars.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
So you're talking about triple that for a kid to
board them.
Well, you know, if you, if youhad to find somebody to watch a
child that was not able to stayon their own, I mean it would be
triple that for a trip.
And you know, down in Georgia,you guys, you know, have the
house and everything.
Now pets are portable.
You know, you can stick a caton your dashboard and drive down
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there, you can stick the dogsin the back of the truck or, you
know, in the cab of the truckand just go.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Yeah, and that is beneficial for us to be able to
take the pets.
You can take your kids, youtake your pets, you know, if you
can.
We sometimes have had to payextra to have the pets with us,
especially since we've got themotor home we've had to pull in.
We have to make sure that it'spet friendly.
Um, some of the pros I will sayto having children unless
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you're raising two hellcats likeI had to is obviously you've
got lifelong relationships right.
So possibly, well, wedefinitely want to out, uh, have
our children and grandchildrenoutlive us.
I mean, what?
What a horrible, horriblesituation that people have gone
through that have ever lost, youknow, a child or grandchild.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
You went dark with that one.
I was just thinking maybe thekid is an asshole and you don't
want to have them around you.
You know from 25.
God, you went dark on that one.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Wow, I'm sorry.
I just you know, I just I worryabout my kids and grandkids all
the time and so you know, ofcourse, maybe I went down the
wrong road with that.
I don't know dogs to a guy atmy age better than I can explain
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the fact that I have threechildren.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
You know what I mean.
Like if I go up and I'm likehey, how's it going?
Oh, do you have any kids?
No, but I have three dogs,that's a lot easier in the
dating world than saying, ohyeah, I got, you know 10 kids,
type of thing because that guydoesn't want to get strapped
with those 10 kids he'll takecare of dogs.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
He'll let the dogs out, that's right but he's gonna
daddy up on those, on thosebabies, you know.
The other thing is is, you know, one of the pros for having
children is really just kind ofthe watching the personal growth
and fulfillment of those kids,unless you, you know, they're
drug addicts or you know couldgo either way.
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Because every parent, or mostparents I shouldn't say every
parent, but most parents havehad those trying times, whether
it's with a teenager or a youngadolescent, or even, you know,
as the kids get older, as youkids got older, you know, I was
always fearful, you know.
Did you have a job?
Are you making your bills?
Are you staying out of trouble?
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Are you staying away from drugs?
Are you staying away fromalcohol?
Are you making good decisions?
Those don't go away, and Idon't care how old you are, that
does not ever go away.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Okay, but you're making a point to have pets, not
kids at this point you weretrying to say kids are better
than anyone into this wholedownward slope, like here we go
into the rabbit hole.
It's boomer, so I can wanderoff.
Periodically she's wandering,okay.
Well, let's talk about this.
Listen, in a survival typething, if, like, let's say, an
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apocalypse like Mad Max days orzombie apocalypse type thing
happens, I don't want kids, Idon't want some little kid
crying about something.
I'd rather have a dog or a catthat could go out and hunt for
me type of thing.
Even a cat would bring me abird.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Yeah, If the dogs go out and drag a deer up'm good
with that.
I know I can go ahead and skinthat and fry that baby instead
of mom.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
I'm hungry.
Mom, my feet hurt.
Mom, when are we gonna stop?
Are we there yet?
Speaker 2 (20:13):
so you know, obviously I will say I had my
kids at a pretty young age.
I uh got married at 17 and andhad my first kid at 18.
Now, that's not something thatI would advocate by any stretch
of the imagination.
Yeah, but that was back in theday.
That was back in the day on theold wilderness farms, you know,
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where they were marrying theircousins or something.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
That was back when they were settling the West and
they needed to reproduce earlybecause the cholera would take
them at 30.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
We needed somebody to work the farms now.
But one of the things that youknow I guess is beneficial for
me is I did have my girls young.
I didn't have any money when Iwas young, so I raised them when
I was young.
I didn't have any money when Iwas young, so I raised them when
I was young and now they're outof the house, of course, and
they've got their own kids andnow I can travel and do my own
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thing and and you know, I havethe pet, I have the two dogs.
So I guess I'm glad I had mykids young.
But you mentioned it earliertoo is there are people who are
waiting to have kids.
Yeah, even having kids at all.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Yeah, because they have pets well, and the benefits
to have children in today'sworld and economy just aren't
there anymore yeah, yeah, that'strue and you know, I think you
know pets give people what theyneed.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
They want that fundamental security, they want
that companionship, they want tobe able to give something love
and get love back.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
They want to trap an animal inside the house and not
let him out and say you have tolove me.
Yeah, no, my cats want to livewith me.
Don't let them out of the door.
Don't let them out.
Don't let them out.
Oh my gosh me.
Don't let them out of the door.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Don't let them out oh my gosh, you just let them out.
Oh my goodness.
But what I was trying to get atwas, uh, a lot of people just
really, you know, are not havingchildren, and that's okay.
You know, back in the day youwere kind of and I don't want to
say it was frowned upon, butpeople would ask you when are
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you going to have kids?
When are you going to have kids?
When are you going to have kids?
Ain't nobody asking, nobody anyof that business anymore.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Nope, I always ask why do you want to have kids?
Are you crazy?
Would you like mine for a day,just so that you get off of that
one.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Loan a kid for a day, just so that you get off of
that one.
Lone a kid.
Lone a kid, that'll change yourmind right there.
So we did kind of go off onanother tangent there and that
was okay.
But I'm kind of interested inwhat our listeners are doing and
please don't hate on me ifyou're dressing the cat or dog
up or pushing them around in astroller.
(22:59):
I'm just telling you, I thinkit's idiotic.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
So don't hate on me for saying that.
You know a lot of people getmore benefits out of pets than
they do kids, and good for them,I'm for it.
Round of applause yes.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
We love the kids, we love the grandkids.
We have a great time with them.
We're so fortunate to have themin our lives.
We're very, very blessed inthat respect.
But we do love our animals too.
But I just wanted to say realquick I did, you know, have
somebody at one point because Itreat my animals as pets.
I do not treat them likechildren.
You can call me a fur mama ifyou want to, but I am a pet
(23:37):
owner and I would never put myyou know, put a dress on one of
my dogs or anything like that.
They would, they would eat itanyway, but um, I I kind of got
chastised a little bit at onepoint from somebody, because it
does get really cold here iniowa in the winter time.
(23:59):
And bobby was correct.
I have Carhartts for the dogs,carhartt coats.
They don't wear them all thetime, they wear them when it's
extremely cold.
And my dogs love to ride in thepickup truck.
They do not ride up on theseats.
My dogs don't get a ride upthere, but they love, love, love
riding in the back.
And somebody had asked me onetime what if they jump out?
(24:21):
Well, they'll only do it once,jesus Christ.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
And my dogs Same with kids, though They'll only do it
once.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
So my dogs love riding in the back and they stay
in the back and I never have toworry about them jumping out
for any reason.
They are very well trained andthey love riding in the back.
But I did go into a store oneday and I want to say it was
Bomgars, because they allow dogsin the store, and I had them on
leashes, of course, and it wasa little chilly, but it wasn't
(24:54):
bad.
I mean, the dogs rode in theback, you know, to get there and
and I don't you know I don'tmistreat my dogs by any stretch
of the imagination but they didnot have coats on.
And some lady said to me as Iwalked in, she said that's
animal abuse right there, and Ididn't know who the hell she was
(25:15):
talking to or about and I gowhat.
And she said that's animalabuse.
You know, you should have coatson those, those dogs.
And I go, it's not, it's notthat cold.
I mean it wasn't cold, itwasn't like even 30 degrees, it
was.
You know, it was a nice day andI go what goes, you should have
(25:39):
coats on those dogs.
That's animal abuse.
And I did get angry and I thinkI said something to the effect
of.
You know these are farm dogs,they're not frickin' only I use
the other word frickin' housecats and just walked away.
But you know some people havegotten chastised for leaving
(26:00):
their animals in the vehicle andyou know you kind of watch out
for that right.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Well yeah, especially when it's hot.
I mean, you don't do that kindof crap.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
I mean you wouldn't leave your kid in there.
I would be hopeful that youwould never leave your kid in
there.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
I don't know.
There's been a lot of cases ofkids leaving their cars.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Oh, my goodness, oh my goodness you know that's a
whole other podcast right thereleaving your kids in the car and
saying you know, somebody wrotesomething really stupid like
put your left shoe back there.
So you remember that.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
Put something important back there.
It's not freaking important.
Yeah, my kids.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
So, yeah, but I think that's probably all that we
have for today.
Bobby, we appreciate youjoining us here at the Rabbit
Hole and Rabbit Run Studio, sobe sure to follow us.
We look forward to spendingtime with you each week.
We really and truly want you togo in and like us, and if you
have any positive feedback forus or a topic, please shoot us a
(26:58):
note, drop us an email, just ashort email at boomerandjenxer
at gmailcom.
If you have hate mail, we'renot interested in that.
We do take good criticism andwe're happy to do that, but I
think that's it for this week.
So until next week, I'm JaneBurt and I'm Bobbi Joy, and
you're stuck with us.
Peace out Later.
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