November 10, 2025 • 41 mins
Some nights turn into a tug-of-war between chaos and clarity. We start with the mess that hits after a loved one passes—addresses, wills, medical directives, and the million tiny decisions no one wants to make while grieving. Getting your documents in order isn’t morbid; it’s merciful. We walk through what to set up now so you’re not scrambling later: living will, durable and medical power of attorney, beneficiaries, and a simple system that keeps paperwork from becoming a second storm.
From there, we pull back the curtain on narcissism. We talk about masks and scapegoats, why the black sheep gets blamed, and how evidence can be twisted into “betrayal.” If you’ve ever felt invisible while telling the truth, you’ll recognize the pattern. We share how to hold steady: document everything, stop feeding the fire, and use language that protects your self-respect without inviting more harm. There’s a reason calm works—narcissists need fuel, and we don’t have to supply it.
Safety is a plan, not a slogan. We break down realistic steps for leaving abuse with children and pets in mind: trusted allies, copies of key documents, code phrases, transportation, and timing. We also explore how to model respect for kids through de-escalation, because what they witness becomes their script. To balance the heavy, we share a moving story from our special needs community—proof that resilience lives in small moments, not just big milestones—and yes, a few laughs about ravioli standoffs and household pranks, because humor keeps the heart open when life gets sharp.
If this conversation helps you breathe a little easier, subscribe, share it with someone who needs courage tonight, and leave a review with your biggest takeaway. Your story might be the lifeline someone else is waiting for.
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SPEAKER_04 (00:02):
Howdy y'all, welcome to another episode of a
contagious smile podcast withVictoria, the sexy, lovely wife
of one and only Michael Solomon.
Hi Howdy all.
SPEAKER_02 (00:16):
Howdy y'all.
How's it going?
SPEAKER_04 (00:20):
Seriously?
Yeah.
Folks, let me tell you about mywife.
SPEAKER_02 (00:26):
Oh god.
SPEAKER_04 (00:27):
She is a machine.
SPEAKER_02 (00:30):
Are you making a metal reference?
SPEAKER_04 (00:33):
Like in heavy metal?
SPEAKER_02 (00:34):
No, in the fact that like my whole body is metal.
SPEAKER_04 (00:37):
Well, tell me about it.
SPEAKER_02 (00:39):
No, because then that would make me going out in
the field.
SPEAKER_04 (00:42):
No, you can talk about your body.
SPEAKER_02 (00:43):
I don't want to talk about my body.
The listeners don't want to hearabout my body.
Carry on.
SPEAKER_04 (00:49):
Well, I'm sexy and you know it.
SPEAKER_02 (00:51):
I do know it.
You are hot.
Not sexy.
Yeah, you are.
SPEAKER_04 (00:55):
Anyway, y'all.
She has been up here doing thework of at least two to three
lawyers plus ten paralegals.
SPEAKER_02 (01:04):
I am not a lawyer, nor do I portray to play on one
on television.
SPEAKER_04 (01:07):
When we tell you and we advise y'all to get your
paperwork in order, when there'sa death in your family, it is
chaotic.
It's a it's it's an intense,stressful situation.
If you're by the bedside of theloved one in the hospital, and
then you're having to do allthis on the side, it's very
stressful.
So take care of it now whileyou're not lucid, while you're
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in your right state of mind.
SPEAKER_03 (01:33):
Some people are never in the right state of
mind.
But what we're doing is we'redoing address changes and things
of that nature.
Oh, dates and wheels,notifications.
SPEAKER_04 (01:46):
If you have any property.
SPEAKER_03 (01:48):
Right.
Not of we're not updating willsof the deceased, we're updating
wills of the living.
SPEAKER_04 (01:54):
Right.
SPEAKER_03 (01:54):
And then you have the living will, and you have a
power of attorney, and then youhave That's including our own
will.
Medical power of attorney.
My husband loves to give melists.
Like lists, lists, lists, lists.
SPEAKER_04 (02:05):
I just want you to sell me your butt and do nothing
all day.
SPEAKER_03 (02:08):
I can't be like you when I grow up.
SPEAKER_04 (02:12):
You got jokes.
SPEAKER_03 (02:13):
I got good jokes.
So my husband likes to mess withmy child, and she's obsessed
with a food from World War Onethat is cheese ravioli.
And if you've never partaken inthe smell of canned cheese
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ravioli, it's it's it's kind ofnasty, it's an acquired thing.
Like it's just like I can'tstand when she heats it up.
And it is true that when youlose one of your senses, another
one gets stronger.
So mine is my sense of smell,and when she microwaves that, oh
my god, it's it's topping upnext to your flagellants, like
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it's really really we're gonnabring that on the show.
Well, you can clear a room afterwhat is what does Pumba and
Simone say?
He can clear right now.
That's why I give it credit andsaid Simona Temba Savannah after
every meal, yeah.
Cause like, yeah, it's it'snasty.
So he takes her cans of don'tyou do that to my boy?
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And he takes the cans and hehides them, and she can't stand
it because she has to have stuffher way.
And now I would like you to tellme how you plan on on rectifying
this situation.
That when I say to her the otherday, hey, you know, it's not
okay to be lazy, and she's like,Why dad does?
So now she doesn't want to helpdo her chores because she says,
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Dad's lazy, so why can't I doit?
Don't mess with my boy, stucco.
It's okay.
My sweet baby.
SPEAKER_04 (03:53):
Your dog is getting in the way.
SPEAKER_03 (03:57):
So, what do you have to say about Faith becoming a
little bit on the lazy side?
SPEAKER_04 (04:01):
Well, she's a grown woman.
Just like you or I.
Wait, I'm not a woman.
I have a picture of you in adrag.
No, not in drag.
Let's correct that right now.
I was never in drag.
I was in a skirt.
Okay.
SPEAKER_03 (04:18):
Are you talking about one of your exes?
SPEAKER_04 (04:20):
No.
I've been in plenty of skirts.
SPEAKER_03 (04:23):
Yes, I know.
I didn't hear about any of themuntil much later in life.
SPEAKER_04 (04:27):
No, I was in a cheerleader's uniform.
Yes.
Never in drag.
SPEAKER_03 (04:34):
Things that make me go.
SPEAKER_04 (04:37):
Did you just vomit there a little bit?
SPEAKER_03 (04:39):
A little bit.
Then when it came out of mymouth.
Yeah, a little bit.
But if I took theprocrastinational role that you
and her have at moments, nothingwould get done.
SPEAKER_04 (04:51):
But you have to calm down sometime.
You have to ease off on the shiton my plate.
SPEAKER_03 (04:56):
It's not a buffet line.
I thought it was all you couldeat.
Oh, now you want to go R-rated.
SPEAKER_01 (05:04):
I see where this is.
I see where this is.
SPEAKER_03 (05:08):
So I want to talk about this for a minute, and my
husband needs to participate inthis because I think this is
great.
Anything about narcissism, okay?
Now that's why.
unknown (05:18):
Uh-uh.
SPEAKER_04 (05:20):
Um, listen.
SPEAKER_01 (05:21):
It makes so much noise in the background.
I just did.
SPEAKER_02 (05:26):
Listen, Linda.
SPEAKER_04 (05:28):
Listen, Linda.
SPEAKER_02 (05:29):
So narcissists portray this image of themselves
to the outside free world,right?
They care more about whatstrangers think than they do
their immediate family.
SPEAKER_03 (05:39):
And then they have the black sheep or the
scapegoat, and it's like theywear a mask, and the true self
comes off when the mask comesdown, right?
And the thing is, is that mybook, Nark Nark Who's There,
which is the prerequisite to WhoKicked First, had great reviews.
Everybody was like, wow, this isthe epitome of narcissism,
(06:03):
right?
I've had a few bad reviews onAmazon about them, and they are
fictitious people who wrotethem, and it's ironic to me that
someone who is in the narcissistwheelhouse and is a purebred
narcissist can't identifythemselves by their true
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identity, right?
They have to hide behind afictitious name.
Now, in my book, as I clearlystate in all of my books, that
the memoir and the prequel allhave fictitious names, but the
rest of the book is 100%evidence, right?
There's so much evidence in itthroughout the whole thing.
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But I did that to protect peoplebecause that's what a black
sheep escapegoat does.
They is they're the fault foreverything.
And I purposely redacted facesand names and geographic
locations, but people haveidentified themselves within
characters, and it's kind ofirony that people who have not
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been named or identified orphysically shown in the book or
characteristics that would splitspecifically state who they are,
even though the book is about mymy family, have come forth with
stating that they, I guess,identify with characters in that
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book, but they don't, I don'tknow.
It just it's ironic that it'slike the beaker from the
Muppets, you know, like thenarcissist is like, I didn't do
it, I've done nothing but cleanup your messes and and deal with
your shit and had to deal withall this, and and I'm not gonna
take accountability for anythingbecause I just I am a king, but
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I hold myself like a toddlerbecause they want the freedom of
a king, but the accountabilityof a toddler, because you can't
really critique or criticize atoddler to the point of
correction, and you narcissistsdon't want to be corrected
because they will not takeaccountability for what they do
or not do, but they will placeit and blame it on the black
sheep, because that's why theytell everybody all these lies
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and they absolutely ruineverybody else's opinion on that
black sheep, so that when theblack sheep says that's not
true, this is not what happened.
And even if you have proof, youhave evidence, you have let's
say photos, photos are worth athousand words, you have emails,
you have a video, you have audiorecordings, and it is the
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word-for-word verbatim of whatyou state as a black sheep,
right?
The narcissist is not gonna say,Oh yeah, yeah, that is me.
They're gonna say, Oh my god,you betrayed me.
You went behind my back withoutmy permission and recorded me or
videoed me.
Well, guess what?
In the state of Georgia, atleast, only one party has to
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know that it's recording.
And if that person hits record,I think that they know it's
recording.
Number two is they can't say, Ohmy god, I got caught.
Maybe I need to correct myridiculous behavior.
They're gonna say, You betrayedme.
How dare you?
And they're gonna spin it again.
And they try to tear down theblack sheep to nothing, they
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make them think they're notworthy, they're not good enough.
And they do this to everyone sothat they seem to be the saving
call, if you will, that comes inand rescues the black sheep
their whole life and has toclean up their messes and fix
all their wrongs, but it's nottheir wrongs as the black sheep
and scapegoat, it's thenarcissist's wrongs.
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And you know what?
Here's the thing one of thethings I'm biggest about, my
husband will tell you, I can'tlie to save my butt.
And my family loves it becausethey will ask me a question, and
if I know like a secret and I'mtrying not to tell them, they'll
know if I'm trying to hide it.
If I try to cover up something,they know I can't cover up, I
can't do it, I can't get awaywith it, and it's really not
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fair.
But because sometimes it wouldbe fun, but I can't, I can't do
it.
But here's the thing when anarcissist hears the truth from
a black sheep, the honesty fromthat narcissist is like a web of
evil coming into that narcissistbecause the truth is what sets a
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narcissist into a firing rage.
Because all the narcissist doesis lie, and when the narcissist
lies, he wants to make everybodybelieve his lies are the truth,
and in fact, they're not.
SPEAKER_04 (10:46):
So let me ask you this individual it's not just
one.
SPEAKER_03 (10:52):
This individual who wrote the reviews, are you
saying they basically perjuredthemselves by coming out and
identifying well, they didn'tidentify as a specific
character, none of them did.
SPEAKER_04 (11:06):
But it I mean, you if you read several of those
reviews, it it's all got a maintheme there.
SPEAKER_03 (11:12):
Well, here's the thing when you know somebody,
like if you speak to me, anybodywho ever speaks to me, whether
I'm working with you as asurvivor or whatever the case
may be, I have certain ways oftalking, and I have certain I
have certain phrases that I usethat are common.
And it's like when you hearthat, you know it's it's me,
(11:35):
right?
When you read these reviews,some of those are in there, and
it's like, okay, ding, hello,really.
SPEAKER_04 (11:42):
All right, all right, all right.
SPEAKER_03 (11:43):
We all know that's Matthew McConaughey.
I don't know, right?
It's like, you know, that'sMatthew McConaughey.
And it's there's just somethings like when I say, like, if
you go and look, you havesurvived 100% of your worst
days, and that is a track recordthat is untouchable.
You go anywhere and look, that'smy phrase.
That that's something I havesaid that's my quote forever,
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and people hear it.
No, that's Victoria, right?
That's what they hear.
When you hear other phrases,you're like, oh, that's that
person.
Like, you know that that's thatperson just by their saying.
And it's like they hide behindit's kind of the metaphor that
they hide behind the closed doorof the house, because behind
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those doors of that house ishell, right?
But when you open the door, it'sMr.
Rogers, right?
You know, oh, I do so much and Ihelp everybody, and I do this
and I do that, and this and thisand this, and but when you shut
the door, the mask falls downand hell breaks loose.
SPEAKER_04 (12:43):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (12:45):
And I mean, you learned about that from you have
a parent, and well, you had two,you had a woman you never called
a mom, and your mom, who youlearned this from, and I had
both.
So it my you know, I want totake a moment.
Let me left field it for asecond.
Last week, my husband wasfalling asleep, and we all know
(13:07):
it because he was really fallingasleep.
This week, my husband is likecollecting chains.
Last week I went and picked updad, but then we didn't record
the same night.
We recorded three nights later,and we were late.
SPEAKER_04 (13:17):
It was called jet lag.
SPEAKER_03 (13:19):
You didn't fly.
I hauled ass.
I was about to say it was bullon your bullshit.
SPEAKER_04 (13:23):
I hauled ass.
SPEAKER_03 (13:24):
No, I got home before you did.
SPEAKER_04 (13:26):
You left before I did.
SPEAKER_03 (13:27):
Uh no, even if we left at the same time, I still
would have gotten home beforeyou.
And I try and I trailed up aboat.
SPEAKER_04 (13:34):
A boat?
SPEAKER_03 (13:35):
I did.
SPEAKER_04 (13:36):
In the back of the truck.
SPEAKER_03 (13:37):
Uh huh.
SPEAKER_04 (13:38):
I was hauling a trailer.
SPEAKER_03 (13:41):
And and I was driving a truck one-handed with
a boat.
Okay.
Two dogs and a child.
I might have stopped off atBucky's for a little while.
Two dogs, a child, a boat, atruck, one-handed.
SPEAKER_04 (13:57):
You gotta have a boat.
SPEAKER_03 (13:58):
This is why you bow down to the one you serve.
SPEAKER_04 (14:00):
I'll bow down, but it ain't serving.
I'm well oh wait, what are youserving?
Let's go back to that all youcan eat buffet.
SPEAKER_03 (14:08):
See?
This is not supposed to be allrated.
SPEAKER_04 (14:11):
This is not all rated.
SPEAKER_03 (14:13):
When you're talking about your wife and an
all-you-can-eat buffet.
SPEAKER_04 (14:16):
Hey, I can't help the the dirty-minded individuals
we have listening to us.
SPEAKER_03 (14:21):
All I want to say is case in point, your shirt says
you can't tell me what to do,you're not my daughter.
SPEAKER_04 (14:26):
Oh, well, that's true.
SPEAKER_03 (14:28):
She has you so wrapped.
SPEAKER_04 (14:31):
Don't tell her.
SPEAKER_03 (14:31):
Wrapped.
But then you go in there and youmess with her.
SPEAKER_04 (14:34):
Yes, I do.
SPEAKER_03 (14:36):
All the time.
SPEAKER_04 (14:37):
So she's got a little OCD, y'all, and I'll put
her.
What'd you call them?
Ravioli.
Cheese, ravioli, stink, cheese,ravioli.
World War I food.
I'll put them all in the thecupboards.
Or in mugs.
The cupboards with the dishesand the uh the oils and spices.
Oils.
Oils?
Foils?
Oils, not foil.
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No, the foils on the side.
Anyway, it just drives hercrazy.
They're not over there with allthe cans.
SPEAKER_01 (15:02):
What did Faith do to you that we noticed?
SPEAKER_04 (15:04):
Oh yeah.
When I went to hide another can,there's my set of keys hiding in
the cupboard.
Little turkey.
SPEAKER_03 (15:13):
This is what they do to each other all the time.
But she got you pretty good theother day when she put you said,
I'm so parched, and she filledyour drink with unsweet tea.
That was pretty doggone cleverand funny.
And she had a little help fromPop on that one because he may
or may not have advised her onhow to do that.
SPEAKER_04 (15:32):
Are we done with the topic of narcissism?
SPEAKER_03 (15:35):
No, because this is what we do.
SPEAKER_04 (15:36):
This is what we do.
SPEAKER_03 (15:37):
We talk about domestic violence, we talk about
abusers, we talk aboutsurvivors, we talk about you
know narcissism, even thoughapparently I know nothing about
narcissism.
SPEAKER_04 (15:47):
I mean, that that's just well, you got away from a
couple narcissistic people.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (15:55):
But I've been told I don't know anything about
narcissism.
SPEAKER_04 (15:58):
And abusers.
Yeah.
So if if you have someone inyour life that is a narcissist
How can if you're living undertheir roof, how can you escape
that?
How can you take back control?
SPEAKER_03 (16:18):
Well, you answer that.
SPEAKER_04 (16:21):
I uh shit, I moved.
Um left.
SPEAKER_03 (16:24):
But you went from one to the next.
SPEAKER_04 (16:26):
Right, but I still left.
SPEAKER_03 (16:28):
Okay, but you still went from one to the next.
SPEAKER_04 (16:30):
Oh wait, the second one left me too.
That was good.
But you went from one to thenext, because then you went to
So how I'm I'm asking you as awoman, how do you leave that
situation?
SPEAKER_03 (16:40):
It's not a quick fix.
SPEAKER_04 (16:41):
It's not.
SPEAKER_03 (16:42):
It's nowhere near a quick fix.
SPEAKER_04 (16:43):
Because you have to have someplace to go.
You have to have folks you cantrust.
SPEAKER_03 (16:48):
You have to be able to know that your children, if
there's children in the pictureand dogs, yes, that they are
protected as well.
SPEAKER_00 (16:59):
It's not it's not an easy fast thing.
SPEAKER_04 (17:03):
And what are you doing there?
I thought that we would Oh, howmany of y'all have have recently
purchased Dear Silence?
You lost.
SPEAKER_00 (17:13):
Now we get the last word.
SPEAKER_04 (17:14):
I would like to hear your comments.
Put out a review on that onAmazon.
I think I'm smacking on air.
Yeah.
My throat's kinda dry.
SPEAKER_03 (17:26):
Well, you have your chocolate milk.
SPEAKER_04 (17:28):
Drink my chocolate milk and pass out.
SPEAKER_03 (17:30):
You've got to be kidding me.
SPEAKER_04 (17:32):
No.
SPEAKER_03 (17:33):
Why?
My husband thinks his bedtime'syounger than a toddler's
bedtime.
SPEAKER_04 (17:38):
I used to go to bed at 8 30 sometimes.
SPEAKER_03 (17:41):
What?
SPEAKER_04 (17:42):
Yeah.
Now that I'm getting old.
Er.
Er.
Er.
You got a lot of dead dead spacehere.
SPEAKER_03 (17:53):
Well, that's your fault.
SPEAKER_04 (17:54):
What are you looking for?
SPEAKER_03 (17:55):
I'm gonna read one of the stories that I permit.
Oh lord.
SPEAKER_04 (17:58):
I'm not reading them more.
SPEAKER_03 (17:59):
No, these are the loving ones.
These are loving.
I actually saw a picture of thisbeautiful little girl, and I'm
so excited to read this becauseI asked if I could, and they
said yes.
So the next book, I am not myare you getting?
I am not my diagnosis, is a bookall about just strength and the
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amazement of our wonderful kidsand adult special needs
families.
You can send in your story andwe can include it in the book.
I actually got to talk to thismom and saw a picture of the
child.
I would love to speak with thisbeautiful child.
So this is called The Girl WhoTaught the Sun to Rise, the Girl
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Who Teaches the Sun to Rise.
When they first placed her in myarms, I remember her tiny
fingers curling around mine asshe already knew I was her mom.
I remember the smell of herhair, the softness of her skin,
and the weight of her againstme.
She was so small, yet somehowholding the whole universe in
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her arms.
Then the silence came.
The kind of silence you don'tever forget.
The nurse whispered, the doctorcleared his throat, the chart
pressed against his chest like ashield.
His he said the words gently,but nothing could have ever
softened them.
Your daughter has Down syndrome.
Suddenly everything inside mestopped moving.
I tried to nod like Iunderstood, but the room felt
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like it was spinning whileunderwater.
I couldn't hear the hum for themedical machines anymore.
Just the sound of my ownheartbeat that had lodged itself
in my throat and the quiet criesof a woman who didn't yet know
how strong she was going to haveto become.
I grieved a future I hadn't evenlived.
I grieved the expectations thatI had built in secret, the ones
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where she grew up like everyoneelse.
And then just as I began to sinkinto the world of that fear, she
made this soft little sound,like a half sigh, a half song,
and I looked down at her.
She blinked up at me with thesealmond-shaped eyes, and there it
was, calm, presence, and love.
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Not once did she cry in thatmoment.
Instead, she studied me as ifshe was the one checking me for
strength.
I held her tighter andwhispered, we'll figure this out
together.
The early days were hard.
There were appointments andtherapies and specialists with
cold eyes and warm smiles whohanded me pamphlets instead of
reassurance.
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They were also quick to informme of all the things she might
never do, as well as all of thedelays I should expect, and all
the milestones she may neverreach.
I would drive home in silenceand cry in parking lots, letting
the tears fall until I couldn'ttaste salt anymore.
Then I'd wipe my face and lookat her, smiling at me like I was
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her whole world, and suddenlynone of what I had just heard
even mattered.
Because she wasn't broken, shewasn't less, she was her own
kind of magic.
And you know what?
I am not gonna finish thisbecause if you want to hear
about this beautiful girl andwhat an amazing little girl this
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beautiful child is, you're gonnahave to get the book when it
comes out.
The story was just gettingsuper, super good.
SPEAKER_04 (21:24):
That's pretty good.
SPEAKER_03 (21:26):
The these kids are so resilient and amazing, and
you just want to put them infront of these, you know, people
who are just stupid and makethem have a realization that
this is how you appreciate life.
So let's talk about people whoreally have their heads in their
body parts for a minute.
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So last weekend we had to goback down to help finish
gathering pop stuff and bring itup, and we had an incident with
a individual, if you will, whodecided to become threatening.
And not only did this individualbecome threatening, but he
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became threatening at me.
How do you describe thisindividual?
Like swearing, cursing,threatening, piece of shit,
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yelling, berating.
It was a horrible, horriblething.
And to do this as a man, a dad,a boyfriend, a partner, the kids
are seeing this, the kids arewitnessing this, and that's all
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they know.
So that is their normal.
But I have to tell you, myhusband sprung up in action, and
why don't you kind of no why no,no what?
No, no what?
Nope.
And why is that?
All all I'm saying is no, whatdo you believe that a man should
uh be able to speak like that infront of the kids?
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That them them's his kids, butthat doesn't make it okay for
him to be threatening, cursing,swearing, and doing all that he
was doing in front of them.
SPEAKER_04 (23:25):
No, I don't care what he does in front of his
kids, that's his kids.
He's gotta answer himself forthat, and maybe his wife and
they're not married.
The Lord will, whatever.
SPEAKER_03 (23:36):
Okay, but I'm saying what we do is the fact that
we're trying to de-escalatesituations and how the kids
should not be witness to thiskind of behavior from a man or a
woman, that this is notsomething that they need to know
is a norm.
This is not a normal situation.
SPEAKER_04 (23:52):
You obviously know where where you want to go with
this.
SPEAKER_03 (23:55):
No, I'm talking generically, like anywhere you
go as a man, you don't act inthis demeanor in front of your
children or to your partner.
SPEAKER_04 (24:04):
I I didn't, I wasn't thinking about his kids at the
time.
SPEAKER_03 (24:08):
Okay, but you also never should come up and
threaten a human being because,and you know, that's another
thing.
Narcissists always raise theirvoice, they always feel like I
have to be louder, I have to bethe one that is overpowering, I
have to be heard, you know.
But then those like I've heardfor so much of my life, why
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don't you just yell at me?
Why don't you raise your voice?
You know, get it over with.
I won't because I'm not goingto.
Because A, I know that's whatyou want.
I know that these individualswant me to raise my voice and
come to their level, and I'm notgoing to.
I am not going to stoop down andraise my voice and give you that
control and power because thenthey're just going to keep
going, they're going to escalateeven more.
(24:51):
And then you're just feedinginto this, and that's not what
you do.
You absolutely not.
You will infuriate them to walkaway.
And that's exactly whathappened.
I didn't raise my voice, Istayed like this.
You and the individual gotreally perturbed and walked off
and slam the door.
But the the thing is, is thatwhen you're dealing with an
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angry individual, don't feed thefire by adding more gasoline.
Don't raise your voice.
Don't, you know, no matter howhard it is for you.
Take a deep breath, count tofive.
Remember that.
Can your kids hear you?
Can, you know, any otherchildren hear you?
Is this, and if you say, youknow, he's only hitting me, he's
only doing this to me, he's nothitting the kids.
(25:34):
The kids see so much more thanyou have any idea.
They really witness more thanyou have any knowledge.
And let me just ask you, let'sjust say hypothetically, they
haven't seen the physicalassault, but they hear the
verbal abuse.
Would you be okay with yourchildren having a partner that
was doing the exact same thing?
SPEAKER_04 (25:55):
No.
SPEAKER_03 (25:55):
Because that's what they hear.
So that's what they think isacceptable.
And then then you turn aroundand watch how many kids start
treating their mom that waybecause they hear dad or the
boyfriend or the stepdad,whatever the case is, that's
what they're placing judgment onbecause that's what they see,
and that's what they'reemulating.
Because they sit there and say,Oh, well, that's how he talks to
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her.
So I guess that's how I have totalk to her.
And then they get in trouble inschool, and it's this big domino
effect, and it's reallyhorrible.
It's a horrible situation allthe way around.
You know, you stop and think fora minute before you speak.
Is this something you're gonnaregret saying in a year?
Yes, it might be a heatedargument.
You know, my husband and I havenever had a fight in in 25
(26:40):
years, but you know what Iliterally have had times.
We both have had times where wetake a break and have a
conversation, but we don'tscream at each other and we talk
to each other with respect, andtherefore we think about what we
say before we say it because youmight say something heated in
the moment, and in an hour ortwo, you didn't mean it, you
(27:01):
just said it because you weremad.
But you know what?
It's those comments that staywith you forever, and you'll
never ever forget them.
It's a horrible, horrible thing.
SPEAKER_04 (27:12):
Now, y'all know we advocate for special needs
families and domestic violencesurvivors, so obviously we
advocate against violence.
What my wife did leave out inthis is the individual that we
were talking about did threatenmy wife, and I did bodily jump
in front of in between my wifeand this individual.
(27:32):
Now that's what every husband,every man should do protect his
family, protect his loved ones,protect his wife.
Could my wife, who is a left armamputee, as a female, handled
this individual?
Absolutely.
With her pinky toe.
Okay?
She would absolutely mop up thefloor with this individual.
(27:55):
But that's not her, that's nother role.
That's not her job.
My job is to stand in front ofdanger.
SPEAKER_01 (28:02):
Not that that was much of a danger, but this
person didn't even come up to myboobs.
I mean, come on.
SPEAKER_04 (28:08):
Okay, now we're talking about your boobs.
SPEAKER_01 (28:09):
I'm just saying he was, you know, I really thought
this was rated PG.
It is, but it's not, you know,he was a man in the sense of
age.
SPEAKER_04 (28:17):
He's a piece of shit.
SPEAKER_02 (28:18):
But size comparison.
SPEAKER_04 (28:21):
Oh, now we're comparing sizes?
SPEAKER_02 (28:23):
He was pubescent.
SPEAKER_03 (28:26):
I'm just saying.
I'm just saying.
It's a lot of bark and no bite.
You know, and that's what it is,is that you need to escalate it
when it gets to that pointbecause there was a time when I
was with my ex who would screamand yell, and I would tower down
and and conform into that fetalposition.
Absolutely.
(28:46):
But now, you know, it's been along time, and now it's like he
because even something was saidafter the threats were made,
like, oh, are you gonna get mad?
Are you gonna get mad?
And the it was escalating witheach time, are you gonna get
mad?
And I just said no.
And that infuriated me.
It was just said just like anormal voice, at normal tone, at
(29:09):
normal volume, and it spun himaround and stormed off, like you
know, I'm gonna go act like atoddler, not a king, and stomp
my feet and shut the door andpout and whine.
And that's exactly whathappened.
And until you can really seethat for yourself, you know,
it's kind of like I don't knowhow that can happen because I'm
used to this man who's ferociousand vicious.
(29:31):
And you know what?
They're a coward, they are acoward, and it took me a long
time to be able to say that.
And most people might not be inthe mind space to be able to say
it, right?
But my ex, I can clearly tellyou right now, back then, as I
would tower down, and you ask myhusband, I have countless scars.
(29:54):
I mean, we're talking hundredsof scars from what he did and
the operation stuff.
Together and you put them alltogether, and the stabbings and
everything else, and it'sliterally like I would never
have said he was a coward backin the day.
There would be no way I wouldever.
But now I'm like, I look at allthe scars of how many times he
(30:16):
tried and he failed because I'mstronger.
I won.
SPEAKER_04 (30:19):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (30:20):
Right?
And what a coward.
And how miserable these peoplemust be in their life.
Just in general.
I mean, how happy can they be?
You could have all the money inthe world, you could have all
the nice cars, you could havethis, this, that, and the other.
SPEAKER_04 (30:39):
The narcissist is not happy.
SPEAKER_03 (30:40):
No, but you could have all of that, but if you
don't have someone to share itwith, you have nothing.
SPEAKER_04 (30:47):
They get their kicks from what?
SPEAKER_03 (30:49):
From making others miserable.
That's right.
That's where they get theirenjoyment.
They get their fuel forthemselves by watching others
quote unquote burn in the fire.
Like to see someone other gettorn down and belittled and be
great and degraded is how youfeed a narcissist.
That's like how they just, oryou know, making them out to be
(31:12):
the hero absolutely is how youjust feed a narcissist.
But they cannot be happyindividuals in their own
personal life.
You know, they have self-esteemissues, they have low
self-worth, even though I meanyou could have all the money in
the world, you could havewhatever, and it's just like you
(31:33):
really aren't happy, are you?
Ask somebody that one day andwatch them shut down.
They're either gonna shut downcompletely or they're gonna get
absolutely irate.
And it either one, maintain yourtone, maintain your volume, and
just be like, so knowing itwasn't me who caused all this,
what made you this way?
And they're gonna still try tospin it because they will never
(31:55):
take a moment and say, Well, Idid this, or my actions did
that, or I chose to do this.
It's gonna be you did it, youdid it, you did it, or they did
it, or somebody else did it, butthey can do no wrong.
Absolutely no way, shape, form,or fashion can they do wrong.
SPEAKER_04 (32:17):
So y'all be on the lookout for her books.
I don't think you have atimeline on them now.
SPEAKER_03 (32:23):
This one I won't release before the holidays, but
I've been just covered with allsorts of stuff now.
SPEAKER_04 (32:30):
Yeah, she has like a huge amount of paperwork she's
been doing.
SPEAKER_03 (32:34):
That's an understatement.
SPEAKER_04 (32:36):
And not to mention phone calls, doctor's
appointments, uh everything.
So y'all be patient with uh oldVictoria here.
SPEAKER_01 (32:46):
Now I gotta be old.
SPEAKER_04 (32:47):
I didn't say old, I said old.
Like cooking oil?
No, like OL.
What's O L?
Oh, old like old yeller.
You you didn't read the book?
SPEAKER_03 (33:00):
I read the book and I also saw the movie.
SPEAKER_04 (33:02):
You saw the movie?
SPEAKER_03 (33:03):
Of course I saw the movie and it was so sad at the
end.
SPEAKER_04 (33:06):
Well, now you just ruin it for everybody.
SPEAKER_03 (33:08):
Everybody who listens to us has listened has
watched Old Yellow.
SPEAKER_04 (33:10):
Old Yeller?
Yes.
Because they're old.
We got an old audience.
Pull up the demographics.
SPEAKER_03 (33:15):
They're between 25 and 60.
SPEAKER_04 (33:18):
Well, they don't know about old yeller.
Who doesn't?
The 20-year-olds.
SPEAKER_03 (33:23):
I don't have 20.
We have 25 and 60.
25 to 60.
I'm a little deaf.
Oh, now you're gonna hit thatand say I'm deaf.
SPEAKER_04 (33:31):
No, I'm a little deaf.
SPEAKER_03 (33:32):
I'm very deaf.
SPEAKER_04 (33:33):
I have hearing aids.
SPEAKER_03 (33:34):
So do I.
SPEAKER_04 (33:35):
Well, don't have them on right now.
SPEAKER_03 (33:37):
I don't either.
SPEAKER_04 (33:38):
Why not?
SPEAKER_03 (33:39):
Because I have to get mine like recalibrated after
I lost my eardrum.
Yes, my eardrum was surgicallyremoved.
I'm telling you, like in 10years, I don't need a car wash
or a shower.
I just need a WD40 cleaning.
SPEAKER_04 (33:54):
Oh, you're gonna shower.
SPEAKER_03 (33:56):
I am one of these people who shower twice a day.
Either shower and bath, but Itake a shower in the morning to
get off the funk from the night,and then I take a bath at night
to get rid of the funk from theday and just to decompress.
I'm one of these people who wantto be clean.
Like I believe in being clean, Ibelieve in smelling good.
(34:17):
Like I have people come up to meall the time, love the perfume
I'm wearing.
I am one of these people thatbelieves in being clean.
It's just that.
It's just, you know, I justcan't.
That's my I guess that's my potuh pet peeve is body odor.
It's like take two minutes andand get a spray.
You know, they even make spraysnow for when you poo.
SPEAKER_04 (34:39):
What?
SPEAKER_03 (34:39):
When you poo.
You it's called poo a reeinstead of popourri.
SPEAKER_04 (34:47):
Are you serious?
SPEAKER_03 (34:48):
So you spray it and it doesn't smell like uh-uh.
No, seriously.
And your dad was hilariousbecause he was telling me Poo a
rebout how when he was anofficer, how like someone
stepped in, he said dog shit,but when he had to go to grand
jury, he didn't want to say shitin the grand jury, so he said,
and the the perp stepped in adoggy accident.
(35:11):
I lost it, it was hilarious,yes, but it's called poo-ri.
So you can actually go and getit and spray so those of us like
me who come into the bathroomwhen you're finished don't have
burning nose hairs because youstank up the bathroom.
How do you say stink?
Stank?
SPEAKER_04 (35:29):
No.
SPEAKER_03 (35:29):
Stank at the bathroom.
SPEAKER_04 (35:31):
Oh, it stinks.
SPEAKER_03 (35:32):
That's the closest English pronunciation of a word
I've ever heard you say.
SPEAKER_04 (35:36):
Did you just say pronunciation?
Yeah.
Pronunciation.
Pronunciation.
Who says pronunciation?
I do.
You just did.
It's pronunciation.
No.
What no what?
Say Albany.
Albany.
Albany.
That's why I said Albany.
SPEAKER_03 (35:50):
No, the other day you said Albany.
SPEAKER_04 (35:52):
Well, you didn't say to say Albany.
Say opioid.
No, I'm not saying opioid.
I'm not gonna do it.
Well, I think we've talkedenough about narcissism tonight.
I need to go get clean.
(36:14):
I feel a little dirty, y'all.
From what?
From talking about narcissism.
That's what we do.
We sit here and we we talk aboutit and we know the individual
we're thinking about, so we havethem spray.
SPEAKER_03 (36:26):
It's your side of the family too.
SPEAKER_04 (36:28):
That's why I said the individuals.
Did you say vitals?
No.
Vittles what we ate tonight.
So I'll let my wife take us out.
SPEAKER_03 (36:40):
I want to know something before you do.
Your dad says he eats rabbit.
Have you ever had rabbit?
SPEAKER_04 (36:46):
Oh, yes, I've had rabbit.
SPEAKER_03 (36:47):
How do you put peter cottontail in your mouth?
That is so nasty.
SPEAKER_04 (36:52):
First, you kill it.
Then you skin it.
SPEAKER_03 (36:56):
Oh my god, I'm so sorry, everybody.
SPEAKER_04 (36:58):
Blow the skin away.
SPEAKER_03 (37:00):
Oh my god, Michael.
Okay, first it's Bambi.
SPEAKER_04 (37:08):
We have Bambi downstairs.
SPEAKER_03 (37:11):
What do you mean we have Bambi downstairs?
The stuffed fawn.
Okay, I'm talking about killingan actual deer.
SPEAKER_04 (37:18):
Well, that was probably I don't know what that
was, but yes.
SPEAKER_03 (37:23):
And then I found out the other night that turtle
meat?
Turtle meat?
Turtle soup.
How do you eat a turtle?
A little baby.
Tortoise.
SPEAKER_04 (37:35):
You don't eat babies.
There's not enough meat.
You eat the grown-ups.
SPEAKER_03 (37:40):
Do you have any shame at all?
Yes.
But okay, what is that nastyquail egg thing you ate?
SPEAKER_04 (37:47):
Quail egg?
What was that?
Quail eggs are very rich inprotein.
They're good.
SPEAKER_03 (37:52):
What is the egg you ate that was wrong?
No, I don't eat regular eggs.
SPEAKER_04 (37:56):
We'll get oh, we'll get your quail egg.
SPEAKER_03 (37:58):
No, thank you.
What is the egg thing you ate?
The duck egg or whatever it was?
SPEAKER_04 (38:03):
Blood.
What?
Blood.
SPEAKER_01 (38:07):
Did you say bullet?
SPEAKER_04 (38:08):
Blood?
SPEAKER_01 (38:09):
I don't even know what that is.
SPEAKER_04 (38:10):
That was an incubated duck egg in the
Philippines.
SPEAKER_03 (38:14):
And what did it taste like?
SPEAKER_04 (38:16):
Like dog poop.
SPEAKER_03 (38:17):
When have you eaten dog poop?
SPEAKER_04 (38:19):
Tastes like doggy accidents.
SPEAKER_03 (38:20):
And what have you ever had a doggy accident in
your mouth?
SPEAKER_04 (38:23):
Well, it smelled like I it tastes like what I
smelt.
SPEAKER_03 (38:26):
Why'd you eat it?
SPEAKER_04 (38:28):
I've never eaten it before.
SPEAKER_03 (38:29):
I'm gonna leave that alone.
SPEAKER_04 (38:31):
Ha ha.
SPEAKER_03 (38:32):
Did you eat it again after that?
SPEAKER_04 (38:33):
I did not.
I shared it with my dog.
SPEAKER_03 (38:36):
That's disgusting.
SPEAKER_04 (38:38):
We threw up.
It was nasty.
SPEAKER_01 (38:41):
For you to say it's nasty.
SPEAKER_04 (38:43):
It was.
SPEAKER_01 (38:44):
What else have you used?
SPEAKER_04 (38:45):
Because I had a little duck in there, black
feathers, a little beet.
Mm-hmm.
The egg came out, it's kind ofgreen.
Like I said, it was incubated.
SPEAKER_03 (38:54):
This is a way for you know what?
We have just found a way to makepeople with an appetite
suppressor.
Because this would make me notwant to eat.
Have you eaten squirrel?
SPEAKER_04 (39:04):
Uh absolutely.
Chipmunk.
Fried dipped in ketchup.
Chipmunk.
I know.
I figure that's kind of like ababy squirrel.
Alligator.
Not enough, yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (39:14):
Have you eaten alligator?
Yes.
Squid?
Yes.
Oyster?
SPEAKER_04 (39:19):
Yes.
Raw and steamed.
SPEAKER_03 (39:21):
Es cargo.
SPEAKER_04 (39:22):
No.
Why wouldn't you eat escar?
Who wants to eat a snail?
SPEAKER_01 (39:26):
Who wants to eat a rabbit?
SPEAKER_04 (39:28):
Half the our listeners might.
No.
Yes.
SPEAKER_01 (39:32):
No.
SPEAKER_04 (39:33):
You wanna put it to a vote?
SPEAKER_01 (39:34):
No.
Because that's I don't even wantto read those statistics.
I mean, seriously?
Have you ever eaten dog?
SPEAKER_04 (39:40):
No, not that I know of.
SPEAKER_01 (39:43):
Well, I know you eat cat because you eat Chinese
food.
SPEAKER_04 (39:45):
Ha ha ha, you're hilarious.
SPEAKER_03 (39:50):
What is the nastiest thing beside that quail thing
you've eaten?
Well, no female names.
How'd you know I was gonna saythat name?
Because we're always on the samepage.
SPEAKER_04 (40:00):
Uh then I don't have an answer.
SPEAKER_03 (40:03):
And how can you only name one?
SPEAKER_04 (40:05):
One female?
SPEAKER_03 (40:06):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (40:07):
Kind of left, she kind of left a bad taste in my
mouth.
SPEAKER_03 (40:11):
I could do so much with that comment right there
that it's unbelievable.
SPEAKER_04 (40:16):
Oh Lord.
Will you take us out?
SPEAKER_03 (40:18):
No, you can.
SPEAKER_04 (40:19):
No, I'm gonna go shower.
You need to brush, floss, rinse,and repeat.
Just because of our verbiage.
Our what?
Our verbiage, the way we'retalking.
SPEAKER_03 (40:30):
You put some nasty shit in your mouth.
Oh, you're the one over heretalking dirty.
But I don't put the food in mymouth that that crawls on the
floor and is cute and adore likelittle chicks.
They're so cute.
Why would you eat one?
SPEAKER_04 (40:43):
You eat chicken.
SPEAKER_03 (40:44):
I'm not going to much more.
I'm not.
I don't eat chicken and turkey.
That's it.
I have never had a steak.
Both yard birds or seafood orI've never had roast beef.
SPEAKER_04 (40:57):
Those are both yard birds, and they eat shit off the
ground all the time.
SPEAKER_03 (41:01):
You did too when you were single.
And we talked about yourex-girlfriends again.
SPEAKER_04 (41:10):
Thank y'all for listening.
To a contagious smile.
We'll get back on topic here oneday, y'all.
Probably not.
Thank y'all.
Good night.
Howdy y'all, welcome to another episode of a
contagious smile podcast withVictoria, the sexy, lovely wife
of one and only Michael Solomon.
Hi Howdy all.
SPEAKER_02 (00:16):
Howdy y'all.
How's it going?
SPEAKER_04 (00:20):
Seriously?
Yeah.
Folks, let me tell you about mywife.
SPEAKER_02 (00:26):
Oh god.
SPEAKER_04 (00:27):
She is a machine.
SPEAKER_02 (00:30):
Are you making a metal reference?
SPEAKER_04 (00:33):
Like in heavy metal?
SPEAKER_02 (00:34):
No, in the fact that like my whole body is metal.
SPEAKER_04 (00:37):
Well, tell me about it.
SPEAKER_02 (00:39):
No, because then that would make me going out in
the field.
SPEAKER_04 (00:42):
No, you can talk about your body.
SPEAKER_02 (00:43):
I don't want to talk about my body.
The listeners don't want to hearabout my body.
Carry on.
SPEAKER_04 (00:49):
Well, I'm sexy and you know it.
SPEAKER_02 (00:51):
I do know it.
You are hot.
Not sexy.
Yeah, you are.
SPEAKER_04 (00:55):
Anyway, y'all.
She has been up here doing thework of at least two to three
lawyers plus ten paralegals.
SPEAKER_02 (01:04):
I am not a lawyer, nor do I portray to play on one
on television.
SPEAKER_04 (01:07):
When we tell you and we advise y'all to get your
paperwork in order, when there'sa death in your family, it is
chaotic.
It's a it's it's an intense,stressful situation.
If you're by the bedside of theloved one in the hospital, and
then you're having to do allthis on the side, it's very
stressful.
So take care of it now whileyou're not lucid, while you're
(01:31):
in your right state of mind.
SPEAKER_03 (01:33):
Some people are never in the right state of
mind.
But what we're doing is we'redoing address changes and things
of that nature.
Oh, dates and wheels,notifications.
SPEAKER_04 (01:46):
If you have any property.
SPEAKER_03 (01:48):
Right.
Not of we're not updating willsof the deceased, we're updating
wills of the living.
SPEAKER_04 (01:54):
Right.
SPEAKER_03 (01:54):
And then you have the living will, and you have a
power of attorney, and then youhave That's including our own
will.
Medical power of attorney.
My husband loves to give melists.
Like lists, lists, lists, lists.
SPEAKER_04 (02:05):
I just want you to sell me your butt and do nothing
all day.
SPEAKER_03 (02:08):
I can't be like you when I grow up.
SPEAKER_04 (02:12):
You got jokes.
SPEAKER_03 (02:13):
I got good jokes.
So my husband likes to mess withmy child, and she's obsessed
with a food from World War Onethat is cheese ravioli.
And if you've never partaken inthe smell of canned cheese
(02:37):
ravioli, it's it's it's kind ofnasty, it's an acquired thing.
Like it's just like I can'tstand when she heats it up.
And it is true that when youlose one of your senses, another
one gets stronger.
So mine is my sense of smell,and when she microwaves that, oh
my god, it's it's topping upnext to your flagellants, like
(02:59):
it's really really we're gonnabring that on the show.
Well, you can clear a room afterwhat is what does Pumba and
Simone say?
He can clear right now.
That's why I give it credit andsaid Simona Temba Savannah after
every meal, yeah.
Cause like, yeah, it's it'snasty.
So he takes her cans of don'tyou do that to my boy?
(03:24):
And he takes the cans and hehides them, and she can't stand
it because she has to have stuffher way.
And now I would like you to tellme how you plan on on rectifying
this situation.
That when I say to her the otherday, hey, you know, it's not
okay to be lazy, and she's like,Why dad does?
So now she doesn't want to helpdo her chores because she says,
(03:45):
Dad's lazy, so why can't I doit?
Don't mess with my boy, stucco.
It's okay.
My sweet baby.
SPEAKER_04 (03:53):
Your dog is getting in the way.
SPEAKER_03 (03:57):
So, what do you have to say about Faith becoming a
little bit on the lazy side?
SPEAKER_04 (04:01):
Well, she's a grown woman.
Just like you or I.
Wait, I'm not a woman.
I have a picture of you in adrag.
No, not in drag.
Let's correct that right now.
I was never in drag.
I was in a skirt.
Okay.
SPEAKER_03 (04:18):
Are you talking about one of your exes?
SPEAKER_04 (04:20):
No.
I've been in plenty of skirts.
SPEAKER_03 (04:23):
Yes, I know.
I didn't hear about any of themuntil much later in life.
SPEAKER_04 (04:27):
No, I was in a cheerleader's uniform.
Yes.
Never in drag.
SPEAKER_03 (04:34):
Things that make me go.
SPEAKER_04 (04:37):
Did you just vomit there a little bit?
SPEAKER_03 (04:39):
A little bit.
Then when it came out of mymouth.
Yeah, a little bit.
But if I took theprocrastinational role that you
and her have at moments, nothingwould get done.
SPEAKER_04 (04:51):
But you have to calm down sometime.
You have to ease off on the shiton my plate.
SPEAKER_03 (04:56):
It's not a buffet line.
I thought it was all you couldeat.
Oh, now you want to go R-rated.
SPEAKER_01 (05:04):
I see where this is.
I see where this is.
SPEAKER_03 (05:08):
So I want to talk about this for a minute, and my
husband needs to participate inthis because I think this is
great.
Anything about narcissism, okay?
Now that's why.
unknown (05:18):
Uh-uh.
SPEAKER_04 (05:20):
Um, listen.
SPEAKER_01 (05:21):
It makes so much noise in the background.
I just did.
SPEAKER_02 (05:26):
Listen, Linda.
SPEAKER_04 (05:28):
Listen, Linda.
SPEAKER_02 (05:29):
So narcissists portray this image of themselves
to the outside free world,right?
They care more about whatstrangers think than they do
their immediate family.
SPEAKER_03 (05:39):
And then they have the black sheep or the
scapegoat, and it's like theywear a mask, and the true self
comes off when the mask comesdown, right?
And the thing is, is that mybook, Nark Nark Who's There,
which is the prerequisite to WhoKicked First, had great reviews.
Everybody was like, wow, this isthe epitome of narcissism,
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right?
I've had a few bad reviews onAmazon about them, and they are
fictitious people who wrotethem, and it's ironic to me that
someone who is in the narcissistwheelhouse and is a purebred
narcissist can't identifythemselves by their true
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identity, right?
They have to hide behind afictitious name.
Now, in my book, as I clearlystate in all of my books, that
the memoir and the prequel allhave fictitious names, but the
rest of the book is 100%evidence, right?
There's so much evidence in itthroughout the whole thing.
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But I did that to protect peoplebecause that's what a black
sheep escapegoat does.
They is they're the fault foreverything.
And I purposely redacted facesand names and geographic
locations, but people haveidentified themselves within
characters, and it's kind ofirony that people who have not
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been named or identified orphysically shown in the book or
characteristics that would splitspecifically state who they are,
even though the book is about mymy family, have come forth with
stating that they, I guess,identify with characters in that
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book, but they don't, I don'tknow.
It just it's ironic that it'slike the beaker from the
Muppets, you know, like thenarcissist is like, I didn't do
it, I've done nothing but cleanup your messes and and deal with
your shit and had to deal withall this, and and I'm not gonna
take accountability for anythingbecause I just I am a king, but
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I hold myself like a toddlerbecause they want the freedom of
a king, but the accountabilityof a toddler, because you can't
really critique or criticize atoddler to the point of
correction, and you narcissistsdon't want to be corrected
because they will not takeaccountability for what they do
or not do, but they will placeit and blame it on the black
sheep, because that's why theytell everybody all these lies
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and they absolutely ruineverybody else's opinion on that
black sheep, so that when theblack sheep says that's not
true, this is not what happened.
And even if you have proof, youhave evidence, you have let's
say photos, photos are worth athousand words, you have emails,
you have a video, you have audiorecordings, and it is the
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word-for-word verbatim of whatyou state as a black sheep,
right?
The narcissist is not gonna say,Oh yeah, yeah, that is me.
They're gonna say, Oh my god,you betrayed me.
You went behind my back withoutmy permission and recorded me or
videoed me.
Well, guess what?
In the state of Georgia, atleast, only one party has to
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know that it's recording.
And if that person hits record,I think that they know it's
recording.
Number two is they can't say, Ohmy god, I got caught.
Maybe I need to correct myridiculous behavior.
They're gonna say, You betrayedme.
How dare you?
And they're gonna spin it again.
And they try to tear down theblack sheep to nothing, they
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make them think they're notworthy, they're not good enough.
And they do this to everyone sothat they seem to be the saving
call, if you will, that comes inand rescues the black sheep
their whole life and has toclean up their messes and fix
all their wrongs, but it's nottheir wrongs as the black sheep
and scapegoat, it's thenarcissist's wrongs.
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And you know what?
Here's the thing one of thethings I'm biggest about, my
husband will tell you, I can'tlie to save my butt.
And my family loves it becausethey will ask me a question, and
if I know like a secret and I'mtrying not to tell them, they'll
know if I'm trying to hide it.
If I try to cover up something,they know I can't cover up, I
can't do it, I can't get awaywith it, and it's really not
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fair.
But because sometimes it wouldbe fun, but I can't, I can't do
it.
But here's the thing when anarcissist hears the truth from
a black sheep, the honesty fromthat narcissist is like a web of
evil coming into that narcissistbecause the truth is what sets a
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narcissist into a firing rage.
Because all the narcissist doesis lie, and when the narcissist
lies, he wants to make everybodybelieve his lies are the truth,
and in fact, they're not.
SPEAKER_04 (10:46):
So let me ask you this individual it's not just
one.
SPEAKER_03 (10:52):
This individual who wrote the reviews, are you
saying they basically perjuredthemselves by coming out and
identifying well, they didn'tidentify as a specific
character, none of them did.
SPEAKER_04 (11:06):
But it I mean, you if you read several of those
reviews, it it's all got a maintheme there.
SPEAKER_03 (11:12):
Well, here's the thing when you know somebody,
like if you speak to me, anybodywho ever speaks to me, whether
I'm working with you as asurvivor or whatever the case
may be, I have certain ways oftalking, and I have certain I
have certain phrases that I usethat are common.
And it's like when you hearthat, you know it's it's me,
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right?
When you read these reviews,some of those are in there, and
it's like, okay, ding, hello,really.
SPEAKER_04 (11:42):
All right, all right, all right.
SPEAKER_03 (11:43):
We all know that's Matthew McConaughey.
I don't know, right?
It's like, you know, that'sMatthew McConaughey.
And it's there's just somethings like when I say, like, if
you go and look, you havesurvived 100% of your worst
days, and that is a track recordthat is untouchable.
You go anywhere and look, that'smy phrase.
That that's something I havesaid that's my quote forever,
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and people hear it.
No, that's Victoria, right?
That's what they hear.
When you hear other phrases,you're like, oh, that's that
person.
Like, you know that that's thatperson just by their saying.
And it's like they hide behindit's kind of the metaphor that
they hide behind the closed doorof the house, because behind
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those doors of that house ishell, right?
But when you open the door, it'sMr.
Rogers, right?
You know, oh, I do so much and Ihelp everybody, and I do this
and I do that, and this and thisand this, and but when you shut
the door, the mask falls downand hell breaks loose.
SPEAKER_04 (12:43):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (12:45):
And I mean, you learned about that from you have
a parent, and well, you had two,you had a woman you never called
a mom, and your mom, who youlearned this from, and I had
both.
So it my you know, I want totake a moment.
Let me left field it for asecond.
Last week, my husband wasfalling asleep, and we all know
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it because he was really fallingasleep.
This week, my husband is likecollecting chains.
Last week I went and picked updad, but then we didn't record
the same night.
We recorded three nights later,and we were late.
SPEAKER_04 (13:17):
It was called jet lag.
SPEAKER_03 (13:19):
You didn't fly.
I hauled ass.
I was about to say it was bullon your bullshit.
SPEAKER_04 (13:23):
I hauled ass.
SPEAKER_03 (13:24):
No, I got home before you did.
SPEAKER_04 (13:26):
You left before I did.
SPEAKER_03 (13:27):
Uh no, even if we left at the same time, I still
would have gotten home beforeyou.
And I try and I trailed up aboat.
SPEAKER_04 (13:34):
A boat?
SPEAKER_03 (13:35):
I did.
SPEAKER_04 (13:36):
In the back of the truck.
SPEAKER_03 (13:37):
Uh huh.
SPEAKER_04 (13:38):
I was hauling a trailer.
SPEAKER_03 (13:41):
And and I was driving a truck one-handed with
a boat.
Okay.
Two dogs and a child.
I might have stopped off atBucky's for a little while.
Two dogs, a child, a boat, atruck, one-handed.
SPEAKER_04 (13:57):
You gotta have a boat.
SPEAKER_03 (13:58):
This is why you bow down to the one you serve.
SPEAKER_04 (14:00):
I'll bow down, but it ain't serving.
I'm well oh wait, what are youserving?
Let's go back to that all youcan eat buffet.
SPEAKER_03 (14:08):
See?
This is not supposed to be allrated.
SPEAKER_04 (14:11):
This is not all rated.
SPEAKER_03 (14:13):
When you're talking about your wife and an
all-you-can-eat buffet.
SPEAKER_04 (14:16):
Hey, I can't help the the dirty-minded individuals
we have listening to us.
SPEAKER_03 (14:21):
All I want to say is case in point, your shirt says
you can't tell me what to do,you're not my daughter.
SPEAKER_04 (14:26):
Oh, well, that's true.
SPEAKER_03 (14:28):
She has you so wrapped.
SPEAKER_04 (14:31):
Don't tell her.
SPEAKER_03 (14:31):
Wrapped.
But then you go in there and youmess with her.
SPEAKER_04 (14:34):
Yes, I do.
SPEAKER_03 (14:36):
All the time.
SPEAKER_04 (14:37):
So she's got a little OCD, y'all, and I'll put
her.
What'd you call them?
Ravioli.
Cheese, ravioli, stink, cheese,ravioli.
World War I food.
I'll put them all in the thecupboards.
Or in mugs.
The cupboards with the dishesand the uh the oils and spices.
Oils.
Oils?
Foils?
Oils, not foil.
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No, the foils on the side.
Anyway, it just drives hercrazy.
They're not over there with allthe cans.
SPEAKER_01 (15:02):
What did Faith do to you that we noticed?
SPEAKER_04 (15:04):
Oh yeah.
When I went to hide another can,there's my set of keys hiding in
the cupboard.
Little turkey.
SPEAKER_03 (15:13):
This is what they do to each other all the time.
But she got you pretty good theother day when she put you said,
I'm so parched, and she filledyour drink with unsweet tea.
That was pretty doggone cleverand funny.
And she had a little help fromPop on that one because he may
or may not have advised her onhow to do that.
SPEAKER_04 (15:32):
Are we done with the topic of narcissism?
SPEAKER_03 (15:35):
No, because this is what we do.
SPEAKER_04 (15:36):
This is what we do.
SPEAKER_03 (15:37):
We talk about domestic violence, we talk about
abusers, we talk aboutsurvivors, we talk about you
know narcissism, even thoughapparently I know nothing about
narcissism.
SPEAKER_04 (15:47):
I mean, that that's just well, you got away from a
couple narcissistic people.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (15:55):
But I've been told I don't know anything about
narcissism.
SPEAKER_04 (15:58):
And abusers.
Yeah.
So if if you have someone inyour life that is a narcissist
How can if you're living undertheir roof, how can you escape
that?
How can you take back control?
SPEAKER_03 (16:18):
Well, you answer that.
SPEAKER_04 (16:21):
I uh shit, I moved.
Um left.
SPEAKER_03 (16:24):
But you went from one to the next.
SPEAKER_04 (16:26):
Right, but I still left.
SPEAKER_03 (16:28):
Okay, but you still went from one to the next.
SPEAKER_04 (16:30):
Oh wait, the second one left me too.
That was good.
But you went from one to thenext, because then you went to
So how I'm I'm asking you as awoman, how do you leave that
situation?
SPEAKER_03 (16:40):
It's not a quick fix.
SPEAKER_04 (16:41):
It's not.
SPEAKER_03 (16:42):
It's nowhere near a quick fix.
SPEAKER_04 (16:43):
Because you have to have someplace to go.
You have to have folks you cantrust.
SPEAKER_03 (16:48):
You have to be able to know that your children, if
there's children in the pictureand dogs, yes, that they are
protected as well.
SPEAKER_00 (16:59):
It's not it's not an easy fast thing.
SPEAKER_04 (17:03):
And what are you doing there?
I thought that we would Oh, howmany of y'all have have recently
purchased Dear Silence?
You lost.
SPEAKER_00 (17:13):
Now we get the last word.
SPEAKER_04 (17:14):
I would like to hear your comments.
Put out a review on that onAmazon.
I think I'm smacking on air.
Yeah.
My throat's kinda dry.
SPEAKER_03 (17:26):
Well, you have your chocolate milk.
SPEAKER_04 (17:28):
Drink my chocolate milk and pass out.
SPEAKER_03 (17:30):
You've got to be kidding me.
SPEAKER_04 (17:32):
No.
SPEAKER_03 (17:33):
Why?
My husband thinks his bedtime'syounger than a toddler's
bedtime.
SPEAKER_04 (17:38):
I used to go to bed at 8 30 sometimes.
SPEAKER_03 (17:41):
What?
SPEAKER_04 (17:42):
Yeah.
Now that I'm getting old.
Er.
Er.
Er.
You got a lot of dead dead spacehere.
SPEAKER_03 (17:53):
Well, that's your fault.
SPEAKER_04 (17:54):
What are you looking for?
SPEAKER_03 (17:55):
I'm gonna read one of the stories that I permit.
Oh lord.
SPEAKER_04 (17:58):
I'm not reading them more.
SPEAKER_03 (17:59):
No, these are the loving ones.
These are loving.
I actually saw a picture of thisbeautiful little girl, and I'm
so excited to read this becauseI asked if I could, and they
said yes.
So the next book, I am not myare you getting?
I am not my diagnosis, is a bookall about just strength and the
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amazement of our wonderful kidsand adult special needs
families.
You can send in your story andwe can include it in the book.
I actually got to talk to thismom and saw a picture of the
child.
I would love to speak with thisbeautiful child.
So this is called The Girl WhoTaught the Sun to Rise, the Girl
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Who Teaches the Sun to Rise.
When they first placed her in myarms, I remember her tiny
fingers curling around mine asshe already knew I was her mom.
I remember the smell of herhair, the softness of her skin,
and the weight of her againstme.
She was so small, yet somehowholding the whole universe in
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her arms.
Then the silence came.
The kind of silence you don'tever forget.
The nurse whispered, the doctorcleared his throat, the chart
pressed against his chest like ashield.
His he said the words gently,but nothing could have ever
softened them.
Your daughter has Down syndrome.
Suddenly everything inside mestopped moving.
I tried to nod like Iunderstood, but the room felt
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like it was spinning whileunderwater.
I couldn't hear the hum for themedical machines anymore.
Just the sound of my ownheartbeat that had lodged itself
in my throat and the quiet criesof a woman who didn't yet know
how strong she was going to haveto become.
I grieved a future I hadn't evenlived.
I grieved the expectations thatI had built in secret, the ones
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where she grew up like everyoneelse.
And then just as I began to sinkinto the world of that fear, she
made this soft little sound,like a half sigh, a half song,
and I looked down at her.
She blinked up at me with thesealmond-shaped eyes, and there it
was, calm, presence, and love.
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Not once did she cry in thatmoment.
Instead, she studied me as ifshe was the one checking me for
strength.
I held her tighter andwhispered, we'll figure this out
together.
The early days were hard.
There were appointments andtherapies and specialists with
cold eyes and warm smiles whohanded me pamphlets instead of
reassurance.
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They were also quick to informme of all the things she might
never do, as well as all of thedelays I should expect, and all
the milestones she may neverreach.
I would drive home in silenceand cry in parking lots, letting
the tears fall until I couldn'ttaste salt anymore.
Then I'd wipe my face and lookat her, smiling at me like I was
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her whole world, and suddenlynone of what I had just heard
even mattered.
Because she wasn't broken, shewasn't less, she was her own
kind of magic.
And you know what?
I am not gonna finish thisbecause if you want to hear
about this beautiful girl andwhat an amazing little girl this
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beautiful child is, you're gonnahave to get the book when it
comes out.
The story was just gettingsuper, super good.
SPEAKER_04 (21:24):
That's pretty good.
SPEAKER_03 (21:26):
The these kids are so resilient and amazing, and
you just want to put them infront of these, you know, people
who are just stupid and makethem have a realization that
this is how you appreciate life.
So let's talk about people whoreally have their heads in their
body parts for a minute.
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So last weekend we had to goback down to help finish
gathering pop stuff and bring itup, and we had an incident with
a individual, if you will, whodecided to become threatening.
And not only did this individualbecome threatening, but he
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became threatening at me.
How do you describe thisindividual?
Like swearing, cursing,threatening, piece of shit,
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yelling, berating.
It was a horrible, horriblething.
And to do this as a man, a dad,a boyfriend, a partner, the kids
are seeing this, the kids arewitnessing this, and that's all
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they know.
So that is their normal.
But I have to tell you, myhusband sprung up in action, and
why don't you kind of no why no,no what?
No, no what?
Nope.
And why is that?
All all I'm saying is no, whatdo you believe that a man should
uh be able to speak like that infront of the kids?
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That them them's his kids, butthat doesn't make it okay for
him to be threatening, cursing,swearing, and doing all that he
was doing in front of them.
SPEAKER_04 (23:25):
No, I don't care what he does in front of his
kids, that's his kids.
He's gotta answer himself forthat, and maybe his wife and
they're not married.
The Lord will, whatever.
SPEAKER_03 (23:36):
Okay, but I'm saying what we do is the fact that
we're trying to de-escalatesituations and how the kids
should not be witness to thiskind of behavior from a man or a
woman, that this is notsomething that they need to know
is a norm.
This is not a normal situation.
SPEAKER_04 (23:52):
You obviously know where where you want to go with
this.
SPEAKER_03 (23:55):
No, I'm talking generically, like anywhere you
go as a man, you don't act inthis demeanor in front of your
children or to your partner.
SPEAKER_04 (24:04):
I I didn't, I wasn't thinking about his kids at the
time.
SPEAKER_03 (24:08):
Okay, but you also never should come up and
threaten a human being because,and you know, that's another
thing.
Narcissists always raise theirvoice, they always feel like I
have to be louder, I have to bethe one that is overpowering, I
have to be heard, you know.
But then those like I've heardfor so much of my life, why
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don't you just yell at me?
Why don't you raise your voice?
You know, get it over with.
I won't because I'm not goingto.
Because A, I know that's whatyou want.
I know that these individualswant me to raise my voice and
come to their level, and I'm notgoing to.
I am not going to stoop down andraise my voice and give you that
control and power because thenthey're just going to keep
going, they're going to escalateeven more.
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And then you're just feedinginto this, and that's not what
you do.
You absolutely not.
You will infuriate them to walkaway.
And that's exactly whathappened.
I didn't raise my voice, Istayed like this.
You and the individual gotreally perturbed and walked off
and slam the door.
But the the thing is, is thatwhen you're dealing with an
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angry individual, don't feed thefire by adding more gasoline.
Don't raise your voice.
Don't, you know, no matter howhard it is for you.
Take a deep breath, count tofive.
Remember that.
Can your kids hear you?
Can, you know, any otherchildren hear you?
Is this, and if you say, youknow, he's only hitting me, he's
only doing this to me, he's nothitting the kids.
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The kids see so much more thanyou have any idea.
They really witness more thanyou have any knowledge.
And let me just ask you, let'sjust say hypothetically, they
haven't seen the physicalassault, but they hear the
verbal abuse.
Would you be okay with yourchildren having a partner that
was doing the exact same thing?
SPEAKER_04 (25:55):
No.
SPEAKER_03 (25:55):
Because that's what they hear.
So that's what they think isacceptable.
And then then you turn aroundand watch how many kids start
treating their mom that waybecause they hear dad or the
boyfriend or the stepdad,whatever the case is, that's
what they're placing judgment onbecause that's what they see,
and that's what they'reemulating.
Because they sit there and say,Oh, well, that's how he talks to
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her.
So I guess that's how I have totalk to her.
And then they get in trouble inschool, and it's this big domino
effect, and it's reallyhorrible.
It's a horrible situation allthe way around.
You know, you stop and think fora minute before you speak.
Is this something you're gonnaregret saying in a year?
Yes, it might be a heatedargument.
You know, my husband and I havenever had a fight in in 25
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years, but you know what Iliterally have had times.
We both have had times where wetake a break and have a
conversation, but we don'tscream at each other and we talk
to each other with respect, andtherefore we think about what we
say before we say it because youmight say something heated in
the moment, and in an hour ortwo, you didn't mean it, you
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just said it because you weremad.
But you know what?
It's those comments that staywith you forever, and you'll
never ever forget them.
It's a horrible, horrible thing.
SPEAKER_04 (27:12):
Now, y'all know we advocate for special needs
families and domestic violencesurvivors, so obviously we
advocate against violence.
What my wife did leave out inthis is the individual that we
were talking about did threatenmy wife, and I did bodily jump
in front of in between my wifeand this individual.
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Now that's what every husband,every man should do protect his
family, protect his loved ones,protect his wife.
Could my wife, who is a left armamputee, as a female, handled
this individual?
Absolutely.
With her pinky toe.
Okay?
She would absolutely mop up thefloor with this individual.
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But that's not her, that's nother role.
That's not her job.
My job is to stand in front ofdanger.
SPEAKER_01 (28:02):
Not that that was much of a danger, but this
person didn't even come up to myboobs.
I mean, come on.
SPEAKER_04 (28:08):
Okay, now we're talking about your boobs.
SPEAKER_01 (28:09):
I'm just saying he was, you know, I really thought
this was rated PG.
It is, but it's not, you know,he was a man in the sense of
age.
SPEAKER_04 (28:17):
He's a piece of shit.
SPEAKER_02 (28:18):
But size comparison.
SPEAKER_04 (28:21):
Oh, now we're comparing sizes?
SPEAKER_02 (28:23):
He was pubescent.
SPEAKER_03 (28:26):
I'm just saying.
I'm just saying.
It's a lot of bark and no bite.
You know, and that's what it is,is that you need to escalate it
when it gets to that pointbecause there was a time when I
was with my ex who would screamand yell, and I would tower down
and and conform into that fetalposition.
Absolutely.
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But now, you know, it's been along time, and now it's like he
because even something was saidafter the threats were made,
like, oh, are you gonna get mad?
Are you gonna get mad?
And the it was escalating witheach time, are you gonna get
mad?
And I just said no.
And that infuriated me.
It was just said just like anormal voice, at normal tone, at
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normal volume, and it spun himaround and stormed off, like you
know, I'm gonna go act like atoddler, not a king, and stomp
my feet and shut the door andpout and whine.
And that's exactly whathappened.
And until you can really seethat for yourself, you know,
it's kind of like I don't knowhow that can happen because I'm
used to this man who's ferociousand vicious.
(29:31):
And you know what?
They're a coward, they are acoward, and it took me a long
time to be able to say that.
And most people might not be inthe mind space to be able to say
it, right?
But my ex, I can clearly tellyou right now, back then, as I
would tower down, and you ask myhusband, I have countless scars.
(29:54):
I mean, we're talking hundredsof scars from what he did and
the operation stuff.
Together and you put them alltogether, and the stabbings and
everything else, and it'sliterally like I would never
have said he was a coward backin the day.
There would be no way I wouldever.
But now I'm like, I look at allthe scars of how many times he
(30:16):
tried and he failed because I'mstronger.
I won.
SPEAKER_04 (30:19):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (30:20):
Right?
And what a coward.
And how miserable these peoplemust be in their life.
Just in general.
I mean, how happy can they be?
You could have all the money inthe world, you could have all
the nice cars, you could havethis, this, that, and the other.
SPEAKER_04 (30:39):
The narcissist is not happy.
SPEAKER_03 (30:40):
No, but you could have all of that, but if you
don't have someone to share itwith, you have nothing.
SPEAKER_04 (30:47):
They get their kicks from what?
SPEAKER_03 (30:49):
From making others miserable.
That's right.
That's where they get theirenjoyment.
They get their fuel forthemselves by watching others
quote unquote burn in the fire.
Like to see someone other gettorn down and belittled and be
great and degraded is how youfeed a narcissist.
That's like how they just, oryou know, making them out to be
(31:12):
the hero absolutely is how youjust feed a narcissist.
But they cannot be happyindividuals in their own
personal life.
You know, they have self-esteemissues, they have low
self-worth, even though I meanyou could have all the money in
the world, you could havewhatever, and it's just like you
(31:33):
really aren't happy, are you?
Ask somebody that one day andwatch them shut down.
They're either gonna shut downcompletely or they're gonna get
absolutely irate.
And it either one, maintain yourtone, maintain your volume, and
just be like, so knowing itwasn't me who caused all this,
what made you this way?
And they're gonna still try tospin it because they will never
(31:55):
take a moment and say, Well, Idid this, or my actions did
that, or I chose to do this.
It's gonna be you did it, youdid it, you did it, or they did
it, or somebody else did it, butthey can do no wrong.
Absolutely no way, shape, form,or fashion can they do wrong.
SPEAKER_04 (32:17):
So y'all be on the lookout for her books.
I don't think you have atimeline on them now.
SPEAKER_03 (32:23):
This one I won't release before the holidays, but
I've been just covered with allsorts of stuff now.
SPEAKER_04 (32:30):
Yeah, she has like a huge amount of paperwork she's
been doing.
SPEAKER_03 (32:34):
That's an understatement.
SPEAKER_04 (32:36):
And not to mention phone calls, doctor's
appointments, uh everything.
So y'all be patient with uh oldVictoria here.
SPEAKER_01 (32:46):
Now I gotta be old.
SPEAKER_04 (32:47):
I didn't say old, I said old.
Like cooking oil?
No, like OL.
What's O L?
Oh, old like old yeller.
You you didn't read the book?
SPEAKER_03 (33:00):
I read the book and I also saw the movie.
SPEAKER_04 (33:02):
You saw the movie?
SPEAKER_03 (33:03):
Of course I saw the movie and it was so sad at the
end.
SPEAKER_04 (33:06):
Well, now you just ruin it for everybody.
SPEAKER_03 (33:08):
Everybody who listens to us has listened has
watched Old Yellow.
SPEAKER_04 (33:10):
Old Yeller?
Yes.
Because they're old.
We got an old audience.
Pull up the demographics.
SPEAKER_03 (33:15):
They're between 25 and 60.
SPEAKER_04 (33:18):
Well, they don't know about old yeller.
Who doesn't?
The 20-year-olds.
SPEAKER_03 (33:23):
I don't have 20.
We have 25 and 60.
25 to 60.
I'm a little deaf.
Oh, now you're gonna hit thatand say I'm deaf.
SPEAKER_04 (33:31):
No, I'm a little deaf.
SPEAKER_03 (33:32):
I'm very deaf.
SPEAKER_04 (33:33):
I have hearing aids.
SPEAKER_03 (33:34):
So do I.
SPEAKER_04 (33:35):
Well, don't have them on right now.
SPEAKER_03 (33:37):
I don't either.
SPEAKER_04 (33:38):
Why not?
SPEAKER_03 (33:39):
Because I have to get mine like recalibrated after
I lost my eardrum.
Yes, my eardrum was surgicallyremoved.
I'm telling you, like in 10years, I don't need a car wash
or a shower.
I just need a WD40 cleaning.
SPEAKER_04 (33:54):
Oh, you're gonna shower.
SPEAKER_03 (33:56):
I am one of these people who shower twice a day.
Either shower and bath, but Itake a shower in the morning to
get off the funk from the night,and then I take a bath at night
to get rid of the funk from theday and just to decompress.
I'm one of these people who wantto be clean.
Like I believe in being clean, Ibelieve in smelling good.
(34:17):
Like I have people come up to meall the time, love the perfume
I'm wearing.
I am one of these people thatbelieves in being clean.
It's just that.
It's just, you know, I justcan't.
That's my I guess that's my potuh pet peeve is body odor.
It's like take two minutes andand get a spray.
You know, they even make spraysnow for when you poo.
SPEAKER_04 (34:39):
What?
SPEAKER_03 (34:39):
When you poo.
You it's called poo a reeinstead of popourri.
SPEAKER_04 (34:47):
Are you serious?
SPEAKER_03 (34:48):
So you spray it and it doesn't smell like uh-uh.
No, seriously.
And your dad was hilariousbecause he was telling me Poo a
rebout how when he was anofficer, how like someone
stepped in, he said dog shit,but when he had to go to grand
jury, he didn't want to say shitin the grand jury, so he said,
and the the perp stepped in adoggy accident.
(35:11):
I lost it, it was hilarious,yes, but it's called poo-ri.
So you can actually go and getit and spray so those of us like
me who come into the bathroomwhen you're finished don't have
burning nose hairs because youstank up the bathroom.
How do you say stink?
Stank?
SPEAKER_04 (35:29):
No.
SPEAKER_03 (35:29):
Stank at the bathroom.
SPEAKER_04 (35:31):
Oh, it stinks.
SPEAKER_03 (35:32):
That's the closest English pronunciation of a word
I've ever heard you say.
SPEAKER_04 (35:36):
Did you just say pronunciation?
Yeah.
Pronunciation.
Pronunciation.
Who says pronunciation?
I do.
You just did.
It's pronunciation.
No.
What no what?
Say Albany.
Albany.
Albany.
That's why I said Albany.
SPEAKER_03 (35:50):
No, the other day you said Albany.
SPEAKER_04 (35:52):
Well, you didn't say to say Albany.
Say opioid.
No, I'm not saying opioid.
I'm not gonna do it.
Well, I think we've talkedenough about narcissism tonight.
I need to go get clean.
(36:14):
I feel a little dirty, y'all.
From what?
From talking about narcissism.
That's what we do.
We sit here and we we talk aboutit and we know the individual
we're thinking about, so we havethem spray.
SPEAKER_03 (36:26):
It's your side of the family too.
SPEAKER_04 (36:28):
That's why I said the individuals.
Did you say vitals?
No.
Vittles what we ate tonight.
So I'll let my wife take us out.
SPEAKER_03 (36:40):
I want to know something before you do.
Your dad says he eats rabbit.
Have you ever had rabbit?
SPEAKER_04 (36:46):
Oh, yes, I've had rabbit.
SPEAKER_03 (36:47):
How do you put peter cottontail in your mouth?
That is so nasty.
SPEAKER_04 (36:52):
First, you kill it.
Then you skin it.
SPEAKER_03 (36:56):
Oh my god, I'm so sorry, everybody.
SPEAKER_04 (36:58):
Blow the skin away.
SPEAKER_03 (37:00):
Oh my god, Michael.
Okay, first it's Bambi.
SPEAKER_04 (37:08):
We have Bambi downstairs.
SPEAKER_03 (37:11):
What do you mean we have Bambi downstairs?
The stuffed fawn.
Okay, I'm talking about killingan actual deer.
SPEAKER_04 (37:18):
Well, that was probably I don't know what that
was, but yes.
SPEAKER_03 (37:23):
And then I found out the other night that turtle
meat?
Turtle meat?
Turtle soup.
How do you eat a turtle?
A little baby.
Tortoise.
SPEAKER_04 (37:35):
You don't eat babies.
There's not enough meat.
You eat the grown-ups.
SPEAKER_03 (37:40):
Do you have any shame at all?
Yes.
But okay, what is that nastyquail egg thing you ate?
SPEAKER_04 (37:47):
Quail egg?
What was that?
Quail eggs are very rich inprotein.
They're good.
SPEAKER_03 (37:52):
What is the egg you ate that was wrong?
No, I don't eat regular eggs.
SPEAKER_04 (37:56):
We'll get oh, we'll get your quail egg.
SPEAKER_03 (37:58):
No, thank you.
What is the egg thing you ate?
The duck egg or whatever it was?
SPEAKER_04 (38:03):
Blood.
What?
Blood.
SPEAKER_01 (38:07):
Did you say bullet?
SPEAKER_04 (38:08):
Blood?
SPEAKER_01 (38:09):
I don't even know what that is.
SPEAKER_04 (38:10):
That was an incubated duck egg in the
Philippines.
SPEAKER_03 (38:14):
And what did it taste like?
SPEAKER_04 (38:16):
Like dog poop.
SPEAKER_03 (38:17):
When have you eaten dog poop?
SPEAKER_04 (38:19):
Tastes like doggy accidents.
SPEAKER_03 (38:20):
And what have you ever had a doggy accident in
your mouth?
SPEAKER_04 (38:23):
Well, it smelled like I it tastes like what I
smelt.
SPEAKER_03 (38:26):
Why'd you eat it?
SPEAKER_04 (38:28):
I've never eaten it before.
SPEAKER_03 (38:29):
I'm gonna leave that alone.
SPEAKER_04 (38:31):
Ha ha.
SPEAKER_03 (38:32):
Did you eat it again after that?
SPEAKER_04 (38:33):
I did not.
I shared it with my dog.
SPEAKER_03 (38:36):
That's disgusting.
SPEAKER_04 (38:38):
We threw up.
It was nasty.
SPEAKER_01 (38:41):
For you to say it's nasty.
SPEAKER_04 (38:43):
It was.
SPEAKER_01 (38:44):
What else have you used?
SPEAKER_04 (38:45):
Because I had a little duck in there, black
feathers, a little beet.
Mm-hmm.
The egg came out, it's kind ofgreen.
Like I said, it was incubated.
SPEAKER_03 (38:54):
This is a way for you know what?
We have just found a way to makepeople with an appetite
suppressor.
Because this would make me notwant to eat.
Have you eaten squirrel?
SPEAKER_04 (39:04):
Uh absolutely.
Chipmunk.
Fried dipped in ketchup.
Chipmunk.
I know.
I figure that's kind of like ababy squirrel.
Alligator.
Not enough, yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (39:14):
Have you eaten alligator?
Yes.
Squid?
Yes.
Oyster?
SPEAKER_04 (39:19):
Yes.
Raw and steamed.
SPEAKER_03 (39:21):
Es cargo.
SPEAKER_04 (39:22):
No.
Why wouldn't you eat escar?
Who wants to eat a snail?
SPEAKER_01 (39:26):
Who wants to eat a rabbit?
SPEAKER_04 (39:28):
Half the our listeners might.
No.
Yes.
SPEAKER_01 (39:32):
No.
SPEAKER_04 (39:33):
You wanna put it to a vote?
SPEAKER_01 (39:34):
No.
Because that's I don't even wantto read those statistics.
I mean, seriously?
Have you ever eaten dog?
SPEAKER_04 (39:40):
No, not that I know of.
SPEAKER_01 (39:43):
Well, I know you eat cat because you eat Chinese
food.
SPEAKER_04 (39:45):
Ha ha ha, you're hilarious.
SPEAKER_03 (39:50):
What is the nastiest thing beside that quail thing
you've eaten?
Well, no female names.
How'd you know I was gonna saythat name?
Because we're always on the samepage.
SPEAKER_04 (40:00):
Uh then I don't have an answer.
SPEAKER_03 (40:03):
And how can you only name one?
SPEAKER_04 (40:05):
One female?
SPEAKER_03 (40:06):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (40:07):
Kind of left, she kind of left a bad taste in my
mouth.
SPEAKER_03 (40:11):
I could do so much with that comment right there
that it's unbelievable.
SPEAKER_04 (40:16):
Oh Lord.
Will you take us out?
SPEAKER_03 (40:18):
No, you can.
SPEAKER_04 (40:19):
No, I'm gonna go shower.
You need to brush, floss, rinse,and repeat.
Just because of our verbiage.
Our what?
Our verbiage, the way we'retalking.
SPEAKER_03 (40:30):
You put some nasty shit in your mouth.
Oh, you're the one over heretalking dirty.
But I don't put the food in mymouth that that crawls on the
floor and is cute and adore likelittle chicks.
They're so cute.
Why would you eat one?
SPEAKER_04 (40:43):
You eat chicken.
SPEAKER_03 (40:44):
I'm not going to much more.
I'm not.
I don't eat chicken and turkey.
That's it.
I have never had a steak.
Both yard birds or seafood orI've never had roast beef.
SPEAKER_04 (40:57):
Those are both yard birds, and they eat shit off the
ground all the time.
SPEAKER_03 (41:01):
You did too when you were single.
And we talked about yourex-girlfriends again.
SPEAKER_04 (41:10):
Thank y'all for listening.
To a contagious smile.
We'll get back on topic here oneday, y'all.
Probably not.
Thank y'all.
Good night.
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