Shattering Family Cycles

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Howdy y'all.
It's another episode of it's aTidus Wild, unstoppable, with a
lovely sexy host, victoria.
I thought I was going to sayMichael.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
You are sexy Vixen.

Speaker 1 (00:16):
I don't binary Don.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
Yeah, hey, I'm still learning, because every time I
think I've done it, they addanother letter to the community,
which we support Wholeheartedly.
We support it.
We have people in our familythat are part of the community,
but it's like now keep addingletters.
So all right, if you're in thevehicle and your children are

(00:44):
there, turn it down.
But come back to this moment.
Trust me and you will want tothis is one of those moments
that I had to share.
I have to share because it'shilarious.
So everybody knows frequent asub shop the other day and our

(01:08):
daughter is in this.
What do you want to call itlike?
This phase, if you will, ofwell, it's a phase where she's
coming up with like pickup linesand really unusual jokes, if,
if you will right, I guess so,and this is kind of just not for

(01:31):
children, not suitable forchildren.
Here's your warning I'll countto three, turn the radio down,
but as adults, you definitelywant to come back to hear it.
So okay, so okay so she looksover to me and she says, hey, do
men get turned on by talking?

(01:56):
Because they're.
How do I want to say this?
like do men get turned on bytalking?
She is a grown adult and almostevery aspect, but you know, and
you know she's almost legal, 21here, not too too far away,
scary.
But and she says do men getturned on when you talk to them?

(02:20):
Oh, she's texting me, Iapologize everybody.
She said no, I said if men getturned on by filthy talk, does
that mean that a male's penis isvoice activated?
So with that I literally had toremove myself from the table

(02:44):
because it's damn right funny.
Now if we heard it from RobinWilliams or Eddie.
Murphy, we would have fallen outlaughing, but because it came
from our precious beautiful,innocent she's definitely not
innocent child it made it alittle different.
So then she now has a nicknamefor men.
She calls them Siri or Alexa,and she thinks it's hilarious.

Speaker 1 (03:10):
It's not hilarious.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
It kind of is, but it's not.
And she just said innocent, myass there, dad, aka Siri.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
Which is not appropriate.
We're having a podcast Go away.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
She knows it's not appropriate for said child to
say to said father.
However, in general terms, it's.
I heard that on Robin Williamsor Andy Murphy.
I've been on the floor crackingup because it's downright
priceless.
So that's hilarious.
We've been quite busy, as a lotof y'all have heard in the past

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or may not have heard, andyou're new welcome.
I will be undergoing, in just amatter of a couple of weeks, a
life-altering surgery.
Not by choice, you would think,after like 100 plus, that I
would get an option of like oneof my choosing, maybe a cosmetic
one or something.
I don't know, but they aregoing to be, in layman's terms,

(04:13):
making my ear like an art pieceon a wall.
It's there to see, but doesnothing.
So they're scooping out the earcanal and the eardrum and blah,
blah, blah blah and I will noteven be able to feel vibration.
I need a cochlear implant, butmy insurance doesn't want to pay

(04:34):
the $300,000 that it costs fora cochlear implant, so for now,
this side will just be like abizarre wall, anyway, so we are
preparing everything the bestthat we can.
My speech will continue to getaffected.
My speech is already affected,but my husband starts snoring
right now.

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It's recorded.
This is going to be so awesome,um, but so the longest time our
office was set up where I satagainst the left side and so
when him or faith would come in,I couldn't hear it.
Then they would talk to me andI'm pretty close to 90 death in
my left ear as well, so this hasbeen a challenge.

(05:17):
So, my loving husband, wedecided to purge and flip the
office.
And it's so funny because he'llwalk by and be like where's my
piece?
What is that?
And he doesn't look on theright side now because he's just
not used to it yet.
But thank you for all thatyou've been doing to help me get
acclimated for this transition,if you will.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
And what my wife has felt eventually, y'all is the
reason why she's having thisstuff, and this was over 18
years ago you count that with 20years okay, I can't count, I'm
a little tired you were in thatand it was longer than an hour.

(06:03):
Hour, that's not funny becauseit has An hour and it was longer
than an hour Hour.
That's not funny because it hasit's pronounced hour.

Speaker 2 (06:11):
Hour Like O-U-R.
No, that's hour.
That sounds the exact same tome.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
No, it doesn't.

Speaker 2 (06:18):
To me it does?

Speaker 1 (06:19):
I slept for one hour.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
Continue on.
Carry on.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
My wife was brutally abused Abuse is brutal During
her first marriage.
It's called severe dance oreardrums, ear canal.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
It ruptured both of my eardrums, and one of them has
been completely rebuilt.
I have a fantastic surgicalteam, but it keeps just not
being able to function.
And I wear hearing aids, butthey don't work right now, and
so both of my jaws have beenreplaced, and the list goes on
and on.
You can look at a picture of abody like a skeleton, and

(06:58):
there's not one area that hasn'thad surgical intervention.
If you will off of them.

Speaker 1 (07:04):
Speaking of intervention, what pisses me off
is, you know one.
You had a marriage back then.

Speaker 2 (07:09):
You know all this would have been eliminated, but
the fact that so many people, somany co-workers that you work
around, saw this going on andknew that this was happening,
and nobody said anything, nobodystood up, nobody, nobody
intervened a lot of people feelif they intervene, then the

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wrath will come to them as well.
I had a.
I had an anatologist who wasworking on faith in the NICU.
An anatologist is a NICU doctorin the NICU, an endotelogist is
a NICU doctor and he threatenedher and he slashed her tires.
And so there are some peoplewho are afraid to confront an

(08:00):
abuser because they're afraidthat the abuse will come on to
them.

Speaker 1 (08:03):
But what happened, you know, the first few days we
moved into our home.
Hello, we're in a cul-de-sac.
There's like four or five otherhouses here.
We heard abuse going on rightnext door.

Speaker 2 (08:13):
It was the same day we moved in, actually.

Speaker 1 (08:15):
We were still unhappy .
I didn't know the address.
I don't know what it lookedlike, but all we heard was a
female screaming.
It was blood-curdled screamingand without hesitation I went
over there.
I confronted the guy.
You know Turned out he was alittle bitty, you know Chihuahua
guy from Jamaica, but thatdidn't matter Not to say,

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jamaicans are little Chihuahuas.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
Just this individual person.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
The fact was I said something, I heard something, I
saw something.
I did something about it.
Okay, and I'm not a very bigguy, I'm not a fighter, are you
crazy?
I probably didn't even have agun on me that day.
We both had Most things most ofmy we carried concealed to
protect our family and our lovedones, absolutely.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
What are you talking about?
You're not a big guy.

Speaker 1 (09:03):
But still I went over over and did something about it
.
Now we, you know hindsight, youknow we didn't know what was
going on until we got over thereand I saw a big red imprint on
the side of her face and then wegot the law involved and, you
know, they separated.
So maybe what happened to mywife will never happen to that

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woman again, now that they'reseparated.
You know, and that's not ataste y'all Men, women,
colleagues, co-workers you saysomething.
You say something you know.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
But then let me throw this at you what do you do when
your own family turns your backon you?
Because, believe it or not,that statistically happens more
times than not.
Right, where they're likeisolated, you're absolutely
isolated it's not just isolation.
It's honestly also the why didyou make him mad?
Why did you stay, you know?
Why didn't you just give himwhat he wanted?

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Why didn't you just makeanything easier for them?
And in the 20 plus years I'veadvocated and when I mean a
contagious smell has beenrecognized globally for many
times and have just recentlygotten five awards just in the
last 90 days.
Um, it's because what peopledon't understand and I, and I'll

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say this over and over again isthat it doesn't matter dinner's
on the table at seven, itdoesn't matter if the sheets are
military press, it doesn'tmatter if the clothes are done
and hung up, wrinkle free.
If everything is done to theletter, let's say and someone
cut your attacker user off onthe way home, or maybe his side

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piece decided not to see him, ormaybe he got in trouble at work
.
Whatever the case may be, he'sstill going to come back to the
house and he's going to take itout on you.
It doesn't matter, because whenit's like misery loves company,
and when you have alreadyestablished that dominating

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presence and you literally makeus into a shell where we just
internalize within ourselves andlike everything at first is
like I don't need to do that,and then it becomes.
Well, maybe if I did just dothis, you know, maybe if I
didn't, you know, have the foodtouch each other on the plate,

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if I held it different from thekitchen to the dining room table
, or why didn't I check his beerto make sure he was almost out,
Because I should have known tobring him another one before it
was empty.
And I mean, these are thethings that cause physical
altercation from one person tothe other and people just don't

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understand, because they'relooking at it from an outsider's
point of view and they want tobe so quick to judge, they want
to just be so quick to placeblame, but you don't ever hear
them say why did you lay handson her?
Instead, it's, why did youupset it?
Why did you?
You, you know what happened toyou, know the underdog right,

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and I had so much proof andevidence.
People actually would come tome and say why do you have this
much proof.
It honestly looks a littlequestionable, and it was well.
First of all, my background,the second of all my, my
training in school, in school.
And third, because every time Ibring it to somebody, an
authoritative figure, I'm toldwhy'd you make a mess?

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You know, they did nothing and Iwanted to obtain enough
evidence so that if the son of abitch killed me that nobody
could get to my kid right.
I wanted him to never have her,and so this was imperative for
me to be able to make sure.
So I told people well, ifsomebody would do the right
thing, guess what I wouldn'thave all this evidence, and

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that's a big issue.
You know so many people justwant to turn a blind up.
You know how quick it is, andwe've learned this so much.
And people say what is mybiggest attribute and what is my
biggest weakness?
And I would say both is thesame answer it's my heart,
because if somebody comes to meand needs help, I will break
myself into a million pieces tohelp somebody, and I do it over

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and over again and I never wantanything in return, but thing in
return.
But when you ask for anything, Imean and it's not even
something, never voluntarily butyou ask like hey, you know how,
about a birthday call?
to your granddaughter or yourniece or your, you know,
whatever the case may be, youcan't even get that, but then

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the minute something elsehappens, it's.
I need this, I need this.
Why can't you let the past go?
Why can't you let it go?
Why is because those are thepeople who made mistakes, and
one of the number one thingsabout a narcissist is
narcissists cannot holdthemselves accountable for
anything.
They do not know the termaccountability they don't, and

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for that reason, and that reasonalone, they're going to always
play the victim and really tryto just berate you anyways.

Speaker 1 (14:10):
Speaking of happy birthdays, things of that nature
, did y'all know that Victoriahere is on Cameo?
What's a birthday?
Listen, you know, folks haveyou know, and pod stars,
whatever.
Go on cameo and look upVictoria Curie and send her a

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request.
Pretty awesome, she has somegreat quotes it.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
Just it really hurts to know that.
I really wish people who are soquick to want to not listen and
just judge people like you know.
You think, for instance, in acommon house, you know, let's
just say it's a male and female,you have a daughter and a son

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and the dad's you know, the twochildren are watching dad get
mom right.
This son is learning that thatis the manners to which you not
only treat your spouse but it'sokay to treat your mom that way.
so it's okay for the son tomouth off to mom because dad's
teaching the son the way to be aquote unquote man and I use the
quote man because that's not aman, right Also teaching the

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daughter my next statement.
And then you're teaching adaughter what's acceptable to
have from a man.
right, it's acceptable for a manto belittle you and just ruin
your self-esteem and yourself-worth.
And you know, if you were toGoogle or whatever the case may
be, all of my sayings, what's mynumber one saying?

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I don't want our childrenspending their adulthood
recovering from their childhood.
I mean, that's like one of mybiggest sayings.
I say all the time because, youknow, I desperately made sure
that to this day, if we broughtfaith in here, she could tell
you I've never said anythinghurtful to her, right?
If she's done something wrong,I would say to her you know, I

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love you with all of my heartand soul.
I don't like how this washandled, so let's talk about it.
I don't scream at her.
I've never yelled at her.
She knows that because you knowwhat those words carry with you
forever.
Bruises do heal, broken bonescan be fixed for the most part,
but those words stay with youforever, like learning at the

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age of nine when your egg donorsays that they wish they
miscarried you, stays with youeven as an adult Like these are
things that stay with youforever, right and it's
heart-wrenching.
You forever right and it's it'sheart-wrenching.
I never want or wanted Faith toever say I'd have one of those
from my parents.

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And she never has, never has.
You know, when she's donesomething that was wrong, I
would say to her you know, Ilove you or we love you.
You made a choice.
You made a choice not to drinkyour water because she has
kidney disease.
So you made a choice not todrink your water.
So you chose not to have yourphone.
You made that choice.

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I'm not taking the phone awayfrom you.
You're choosing to give it tome because you're saying to me
that that phone matters more toyou than the health of your
kidneys.
So, and we made a rule, and nowshe's done it perfectly right.
There's a way to do thingsthat's not going to berate our

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kids.
Now, I don't agree with thecarrying it like a kid glove.
You know, and being so like.
You know you can't do that, butyou don't yell at me, you don't
.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
So let me ask you, as a doctor, where, who you?
Oh, dr Victoria, since theso-called man father is training
the fat her, the son and thedaughter.
These daughters are more proneto look for that type of man.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
That's all they know.
That's their know.
You know how in the morning youget up and you know you've got
to brush your teeth, you knowyou've got to put on your giver,
you know you've got to put onyour geographic.
You know, you got to put onyour shoes right.
That is the type of man thatthey know and they're
comfortable with.
So like, for instance, if youput me around, I don't know,

(18:36):
let's say, let's say the guypicks up the trash we're not
going to be able to have aconversation about professional
things.
I would be fascinated to hearbut there's a lot of things.
If you put me in front of a, Iknow my husband's going to make
me eat these words.
If you put me around acardiothoracic surgeon, I'm not
going to be able to have aconversation with them along the

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same.
What did you say?

Speaker 1 (19:01):
I was talking to.

Speaker 2 (19:02):
Hollywood.
If you the same, what did yousay?
Um, I was talking to holly likeif you put me around a
cardiothoracic surgeon, I'm notgoing to be able to have a
relatable conversation.
I mean, I know the basics but Idon't know enough to carry on a
conversation, so we wouldn'thave a lot in common the
daughter is going to have incommon what she feels she's
accustomed to like.
She's accustomed to the beratingand the belittling and the

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ruining of the self-esteem andthe body dysphoria and so she's
not going to go and try to findsomebody who's going to treat
her the way she deserves to betreated, and that's not okay.
That's why you have to breakthe cycle.
You absolutely have to breakthe cycle.

Speaker 1 (19:39):
Did that answer my question, thank?

Speaker 2 (19:42):
you, you're welcome else you want to talk about
sleeping I'm tired.

Speaker 1 (19:47):
I don't know, yeah, but I think it's the heat.
Uh, this heat's horrible man.
Last week it was great.
It felt like almost winter.

Speaker 2 (19:56):
No, it felt like fall , yeah, like that's not winter.
And now it's back up in the 90sI won't go outside.
It's horrible.
We had to go out and getgroceries and I'm like, I mean
it's horrible outside and it'slike thick air.
It's not just.
You know, we did go outsaturday, though we did.

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We went back to the range andwent shooting again.
Family who shoots together.

Speaker 1 (20:24):
That place that sells sandwiches?
Yes, created by the firemenFirehouse.
And then we went out to theshooting range because it's
enjoyable as a family Right.

Speaker 2 (20:43):
And I think it's very important that kids know not
kids well, yes, kids, but likeyou know Well, thanks to young
ladies, she's legal.
She's almost 21.
I mean it's close enough, butyou know she needs to know how
to handle stuff.
Right, but you know it's thewhole thing.
People say guns kill people,people kill people.
You know it's the whole thing.
People say guns kill people,people kill people.

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You know.
You know that's like so manypeople.
Honestly, babe, ask me why Ialways carry knives.
Why do you carry knives?
You've been stabbed a dozentimes.
The knife didn't stab theperson holding it in their hand
stabbed me.

Speaker 1 (21:17):
And she has like three on a knife shelf.

Speaker 2 (21:19):
Yes, you know, one of the things I trained, you know,
growing up, is throwing starsand throwing knives, and I love
them.
It's not the nice fault.
That's like saying okay I gotbit by a dog so I'm never gonna
have a dog again.
Right, that's just stupid.
I mean, if that's the case, I'dbe like the you know old lady
sitting and living by myselfwith 100 cats, which I'll never

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do.
No, it's no cats.
No, you've ruined that.
I'm just not cat person.
I don't like cats.
I mean, if you love cats, hey,more power to you.
I'm a dog person.
No way, shape, form or fashion,is any animal going to replace
my speckled rusty, my daughterand I came home one day and

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there was a feral kitten in ourgarage.
It was tiny it was really tiny.
You saw on a stuffed animalselection of a storybook.
Oh that's so cute.
I don't like cats but I stillthink kittens are cute.

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This is a cute little kitten.

Speaker 1 (22:28):
Let me emphasize that it was feral.
Excuse me, and you know I'm nosmall guy.
What You're small.
I'm 6'1", 283 pounds, you knowhe's not 6'1".
I'm 6'1, 283 pounds, you knowhe's not 6'1.
I'm 6'1 6'2, 6'3 anyway, Ithought I you know I'm gonna I

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thought I could handle this baby, cute little feral kitten.
Feral.
No, was I wrong?
That little bastard.
And it ate me alive.
Okay, I'm talking all 16 clawsdug in deep, bit me 8 times on

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my finger.
I could not shake the littleshit off of my hand.
I'm screaming get this, getthis demon off of me.
My daughter is bent over.
How many pisses in her bricksis by now?
She was laughing so freakinghard.
I'm shaking the shit out of myright hand trying to get this
kitten off of me.
I can't get it off.

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I finally run out the garagedoor and let it, lets go, or I
sling it off or something.
I mean it tore me up y'all.

Speaker 2 (23:46):
I was and she said to make sure we tell our audience
that there were no puncturewounds oh, there was blood
gutting, we see no puncture,wound, little kitten didn't even
get into your skin.
It was hilarious.
So no more cats.

Speaker 1 (24:06):
She just said you're a wimp.
That's one dollar.
The Lord Nard Nard Nard, is it?
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (24:16):
but, Nard.

Speaker 1 (24:17):
She ratted me out so many times tonight.

Speaker 2 (24:20):
Okay, but that was justifiable.
Nah, so do you think she's amama's boy, or a mama's girl or
a daddy's boy?

Speaker 1 (24:28):
She's mine.

Speaker 2 (24:31):
Well, that's beside the point that is mama's girl
all day long.

Speaker 1 (24:36):
So my wife referenced one of her 41 books Nightmare
who's there, which is a prequelto who Kicks First.
You can find both those onAmazon.
Y'all, go check out her memoir.
Get to know my wife a littlebit better.
You have your glasses on.

Speaker 2 (24:53):
So let me see if I can read this.
Can you come read this out loud, because I don't want my
glasses on.
It says I just told y'all tostop the podcast, this mama's
podcast.
She says she's not blessed.
No, what she says is when she'sgood she's mine and when she's
bad she's yours.

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That's what she says, andpeople who listen to the radio
like so loud that it shakes thevehicles next to you.
You're going to go deaf.
And let me tell you fromsomeone who has had hearings, to
someone who doesn't it sucks.

Speaker 1 (25:30):
Thank you to everyone who has joined.
Hello, hello.

Speaker 2 (25:36):
Here comes the best, here comes the best, thank you.

Speaker 1 (25:53):
Everybody who's joined Mighty Networks and the
Academy.
We see you quite a bit of y'alltaking classes here in the past
two weeks.
We'd like some feedback onthose courses that y'all have
taken, so send us a response.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
So what's up?
Girly girl, I'm a mama cow allthe way.
You're a mama's girl all theway, I'm not, I'm good.

Speaker 1 (26:17):
That's every day.
No, you're a stinker rat everyday.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
So what did you want to tell everybody to call him if
they ever saw him out?

Speaker 1 (26:24):
No Negative Goodbye.
Close the door as well.

Speaker 2 (26:28):
No, hopefully.

Speaker 1 (26:33):
Can we go Turn this off?
Thank you for listening toUnstoppable yes.
I'm going to leave.

Speaker 2 (26:44):
Stop that.
Uh, stop the vote.
Yes, I want to leave, stop.
Hey, today's scott hamilton'sbirthday.
Well, scott, happy birthday.
It was our show here a fewmonths ago.
A stand-up nice guy like he wassomebody I watched with my
grandparents, loved him.
What a personality, just such afun guy.

(27:06):
He was a nice, nice, nice, niceas can be, just seriously as
nice as can be.
All right, say bye, faye, adios, adios.
But you know what?
They wouldn't trade each otherfor nothing, and it's so.

(27:28):
She does not because all shedoes is all she does.
When she does something, she'lllike lift her sleeve up a
little bit and show the tattoothat she got dedicated to him
and then he's like never mind,no, do I really sound like that?

Speaker 1 (27:43):
yes, the tattoo that she got dedicated to him, and
then he's like never mind.
Well, I really sound like that.
Yes, so that's a grumpy oldbear.

Speaker 2 (27:49):
You're a grumpy old bear.
You're a totally grumpy bear,absolutely grumpy, grumpy bear.
Yes, so tell me what they'redoing in downtown Atlanta now.
What is all this?
You were telling me earlier.
We didn't get to finish thisconversation.

Speaker 1 (28:06):
Oh, I normally go on my phone and sit there and
TikTok, Because you know I'mcreating a masterpiece, y'all.
It takes time, Okay At leastuntil my legs fall asleep and I
saw where the cops are going inbig squads alongside a garbage
truck and removing all thehomeless items.

Speaker 2 (28:29):
Is this AI generated?

Speaker 1 (28:30):
or is this real?
This is real.
I only saw one video.

Speaker 2 (28:34):
Well, trump is doing it through DC, where no homeless
people can be on the streets atall.

Speaker 1 (28:41):
So it's going to go around the major cities for a
while now.

Speaker 2 (28:47):
So what are they doing with the?

Speaker 1 (28:48):
individuals.
They're getting relocated,arrested, they get offered
assistance to do whatever.
I don't know where they'regoing to go, but I know, as a
taxpayer, I'll probably float intheir bill.

Speaker 2 (29:09):
What do you think should happen to?

Speaker 1 (29:10):
them If they get incarcerated.
I'll definitely float in theirbill.

Speaker 2 (29:14):
Why is it that people who are incarcerated get
treated better than are elderlyand assisted living?

Speaker 1 (29:24):
I wonder how many times they fell off a credit
card right and got better creditthan we do.

Speaker 2 (29:34):
Well, I mean, just think about it In jail.
They get free health care, theyget education three squares a
day, room and board, even thoughbut elderly don't get that if
they need something and theydon't have proper insurance, I
mean, you know they they therate of like sexual assault in

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assisted living.
Those is insane.
It's ridiculous, and the factthat you know they get fed sores
and everything else becausethey're not even turned as
they're supposed to be and it'sridiculous what they and how
they're treated.
I mean it really is and howthey're treated.

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I mean it really is.

Speaker 1 (30:24):
Yeah, I saw that firsthand when my grandmother
was in the nursing home and mygreat grandmother that was even
I was.
I was young young type backthen, you know, nine, ten years
old, you should visit her.
And uh, yeah, we saw it maybenobody could do anything I don't

(30:45):
, I don't think.
You know they wanted to.
You know what, and I hate to bemorbid, but you know a lot of
them was why bother?

Speaker 2 (30:57):
they're only going to be here for a couple months
well, I'm sure this is eithergoing to get us more listeners
or make quite a few leave us.
But here.

Speaker 1 (31:06):
Here's my thing.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
Now it seems as if the sentencing is even getting
easier and less strict when itcomes to, like, hard crimes.
You know people who havecommitted murder.
They flee down and set a murderone or murder two, it's you
know whatever and then theyspend a few years and they bitch

(31:31):
, moan and complain and they'reout, right.
What about the person who'sdone?
They don't come out and raisefrom the dead, right?
So why is it now that thesentencing is so?
Just?
How come you can just be like,you know, blink an eye, you're
basically done?
That doesn't make any sense tome.
And then you know.

(31:51):
The thing is, when you have gonethrough something that is a
violent crime yourself, youmight change your opinion.
But I don't believe that it'sfair.
Now, before everybody getsjudgmental again, hear me out.
I don't think it's fair.
Let's say, just for thispurpose, only some piece of

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garbage hands down, no hung juryjewelry, no questionable
reasonable doubt, thousandpercent proven guilty, not a
doubt.
Right kills an innocent child.
Okay, and I mean, however, it'sdone, it's done.
And then the person says Idon't want to go to death row, I

(32:39):
shouldn't have to be put todeath.
But what about that littleindividual child?
right what about that child.
Did that child make that choice?
That child's never going tograduate?
That?

Speaker 1 (32:48):
child's never going to have their own family.
They're never going to getmarried.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
There's always things this child is never going to
get the opportunity to do.
I think that the option shouldbe there to say I'm going to
take you off the death rowbecause that's inhumane.
What about with an, the childright?
Then, if you do go to death rowand you are pushed to death and
you're laying there and you getIVs and you're put to death in

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lethal injection, they want tosay that's inhumane.
Let's go back and look at whathappened to that child.
Okay, seriously, think about itfrom this point of view.
God forbid, it was your child.
Are you saying that you thinklethal injection is not okay?

(33:33):
because that's inhumane but whatabout this baby?
What about this child?
You know how is that okay?
I mean, what are your thoughtson this?
I mean, so many people areagainst lethal injection because
they say it's inhumane to do soto someone.
Babe, what are your thoughts?

Speaker 1 (33:55):
So I'm just you got to be curious as far as lethal
injection, since they're onedepartment spent $900,000 on a
single dose of this, whatever 90day shelf life medicine or I
don't know what you call it.

(34:16):
It's one of the threecomponents Right $900,000 on a
single dose with a 90-dayself-life.

Speaker 2 (34:30):
Right.

Speaker 1 (34:31):
That's crazy.
That's crazy.
That's the state Aiden for that.
Okay, right To go into someonewho's doing God.
How much was given to thevictim?

Speaker 2 (34:45):
And I'm not talking about voluntary, I'm talking
about the pain and sufferingthis child endured.
And then the criminal has theaudacity to say it's not humane
for me to be killed by lethalinjection.
I shouldn't be put to deathright so we have to keep funding

(35:05):
for you and paying your taxes.
Are we paying for your housingand your education and your food
and yada, yada, yada.
But what about this child?
What about the family?
What about the parents?
And then people say lethalinjection is too inhumane.
What are we supposed to do?
Powder puff their face, justput a little powder on their

(35:27):
nose, but then we're going to becontaminating their lungs.
If that's inhumane, do you knowmy thoughts.
Well, I would like to discussthis.

Speaker 1 (35:35):
The punishment should be defined Well.
I would like to discuss this.
The punishment takes me.
The punishment should take thetime.

Speaker 2 (35:39):
That, for example, everything I've been through.
Let's just take me as anexample.
I'll be the escapee over hereEverything I've been through,
that son of a bitch hasn't had1% of any of this happening
Nothing.
Scott Free right Openly hasmurdered people Right and not in

(36:00):
self-defense.
Not under the blanket of themilitary which I thank everyone
for their service, Not underthose clauses has murdered
people and he's gotten away withit.
I have physically altered in somany ways and I wasn't supposed
to be here.
Faith wasn't supposed to behere.
Faith wasn't supposed to be here.

(36:20):
He's walking around Scott Brody, I mean, and I've never sought
revenge and I never will,because it's not mine to give.
Let me just put that out there,right, I've never gone to his
place of employment or hisresidence or anything like that.
Where he's doing this, all Notand never will.
Or his residence or anythinglike that where he's going to

(36:42):
sell not it, never will.
The point is, is that, why is itthat?
That's when they say that'sinhumane, I shouldn't have to do
that.
Or they say caging.
If they call it caging, whenyou cage somebody instead of
incarcerating them, when youhave someone who has hurt a
young child or a woman orwhatever, how can you not call

(37:08):
it caging?
I mean, is a normal I hate theterm normal human being for a
lack of term capable of doingthis to a young child?
Because you and I couldn'tfathom hurting a kid, never,

(37:28):
right.
We would give our life toprotect a child, but we would
never hurt a child.
So why do people get up in armswhen you say they're being
caged?
And I've never said that.
I've never said that.
I say this person'sincarcerated, but other people
who?
protest it say we are caging ourprisoners when that's inhumane,

(37:49):
but what about the acts of whatthey've done?
I mean, as a former officer, aformer jailer, a deputy canine,
how do you answer that?
I mean, I'm going to get hatemail and that's fine.

Speaker 1 (38:03):
Everybody has a right to their own opinion.

Speaker 2 (38:05):
But if it happened to you or your child or a loved
one you're going to, you know.
I'm not saying that anybody whois innocent deserves this, not
at all.
But if somebody has tried tokill you or kill your child and
you know what, even sexualassault, you know they're still
taking away some part of youthat you will never get back

(38:28):
ever.
And they get to walk around andsay, okay, well, I've served
eight, 10, whatever months,years, whatever that chapter is
behind me.
I promise you this thosechapters are not behind us at
all.
We learn a whole new way to livelife.
We learn a whole new way how tofunction on a daily basis, and

(38:50):
we don't get to close thatchapter and put it on the shelf
and say it's behind us now.
That doesn't get to happen.
So how is it that you see?
As an officer that people cantake that stance.

Speaker 1 (39:04):
Let me ask you did you ever see the movement with
Jim Carrey limiting tickets?

Speaker 2 (39:10):
No.

Speaker 1 (39:10):
A series of unfortunate events, no, so he
attempted to get the inheritanceof the Baudelaire kids and he
put them through severaltragedies, so to speak, to off
them right, but in the end thejudge found him guilty and

(39:35):
ordered him to go through thesame thing that they went
through.
So in that instance, thepunishment of 50 crime, right,
okay, and to me that I thinkthat's what's happening if you
finally wait and and kill achild.
Okay, buddy, guess what?

Speaker 2 (39:54):
it's coming your way all right, that's just the way I
am.
And I'll probably hate you.
Now here's the thingno-transcript.

(40:20):
Why is he so afraid?
When he goes in jail, like youknow, he goes into his own area.
They don't put him in Gen Pop,they put him in solitary because
he will be destroyed in Gen Pop.
But he goes out and complainsthat pedophilia they don't have

(40:42):
anything to help them when theyget out.
That there shouldn't be a sexregistry, that there shouldn't
be.
You know, I think there shouldbe a domestic violence registry.
To be honest with you, I reallydo, because I mean, if there's
a sex, why can't there be adomestic violence registry?

Speaker 1 (41:00):
I was in the jail for four and a half years and every
one of the inmates that I hadto take care of that were
pedophiles.
They were isolated.
They were often in a separatepod with just those pedophilia.

Speaker 2 (41:17):
And all they're doing is learning each other's
secrets.

Speaker 1 (41:19):
That's right, and it was done more than the two guys
in the room, obviously.

Speaker 2 (41:26):
But they weren't going to do anything to each
other because they're not turnedon, so you can put them in a
hole.

Speaker 1 (41:32):
They weren't over at Jim Pop with the other fathers.
So why, I don't know, with theother fathers?
So why, you know, I don't knowas officers we're not condoning
that, but why protect them?
They were protecting our kids.
That's right, they're in jail.
If they go in jail and they get, you know.

Speaker 2 (41:55):
All you're doing by putting them in A blanket party,
so to speak, like the soap andthe sock thing, yeah, but if
you're going in there and you'reputting them with other
pedophiles, they're learningtheir other secrets and their
other tricks and trades andthings of that nature, and then
they get out and guess what.

Speaker 1 (42:14):
Right, oh, I'm never going to try this.
Maybe I won't be caught thistime.

Speaker 2 (42:20):
And they don't think it's fair that they should go on
a sex registry.
I mean, you know, where is itsafe for our kids now?
I mean, you know, even in thelast week, it seems like every
day we have been getting newsreports of there was a mass
shooting in Target.
There was a mass shooting intarget.
There was a mass shooting in awalmart.
There was a mass shooting, youknow, at a restaurant.

(42:42):
There was a mass shooting atthe cdc.
Well, I can understand that alittle more than a.
You know the target, you knowor walmart.
I mean there should be no massshootings when we grew up.

Speaker 1 (42:55):
I don't remember recall any mass shootings right,
I think Waco was the first one.

Speaker 2 (42:59):
I was going to say I thought Waco was like the first,
but everywhere and every dayyou're hearing about this crazy
craziness of people just goingout and shooting innocent people
who have done nothing to them,and it doesn't seem like it's
ever something.
Well, Michael and Victoria.

(43:19):
y'all just stated that y'allwent out shooting with the
family Because we're going todefend ourselves and we're going
to protect our family and wehave the constitutional right to
do so.
Right, we have the right tobear arms, we have the right to
defend, and I am not going to be.
You know, I've had a gun put tomy head.
The only thing that didn'thappen, thank God, was the

(43:42):
trigger didn't get pulled.
You know, and I'm telling youshit, sorry, you come out and
you're one of my family, that'sit.
That's it.
You know, not going to happen.
This is not going to happen.
You should, absolutely, withouta questionable doubt, have
every right to protect you andyours.

Speaker 1 (44:00):
And just in case something ever happens and
either one of us areincapacitated, then our daughter
?
What?

Speaker 2 (44:09):
My shot, she is.

Speaker 1 (44:13):
She knows how to handle the firearm and even the
range master.
One of the rangers came over tomy wife and said what did he
say?

Speaker 2 (44:20):
She's a natural.
How long has she been shooting?
She's shot two separateoccasions.
She's doing head shots.
She gets it from me.
She was center mass, which wasamazing.
She did do a few head shotsbelow the belt.

Speaker 1 (44:38):
Easy, crazy, I belt ladies.
You know what I'm talking aboutsame.

Speaker 2 (44:40):
I mean, you know, she nailed the head shot, she got
center mask, I mean she even gota hand shot I was like make a
smiley face and I don't thinkshe understood what I was trying
to say from behind the glass atone point.
But I mean, for someone who hasnever shot before, she gets it
naturally.
That's all I'm saying, that'sit.
I'm so proud of her and she'sgetting a little cocky about it.

(45:04):
She knows, she knows she canshoot, like right, and it's a
great thing, like maybe we'regonna go shooting, but your room
is messy watch how fast thatgets close?

Speaker 1 (45:13):
yeah, it's definitely you, and it's just not me
loading the magazine for herloading the firearm.
It's going through everything.
It's her knowing how to loadthe magazine herself Okay.

Speaker 2 (45:27):
Correct Stands everything.

Speaker 1 (45:30):
Position of the index finger, the thumb, for the
magazine release.
She's learning all that safelyand, you know, in a controlled
environment.
We even have instructors comeby every once in a while.
I'm all for that, as a family,as a group, to train your kids
how to safely use a firearm.

(45:50):
By all means, have at itAwesome.

Speaker 2 (45:55):
She's strong physically.
That kid is physically strong.
I've seen her take grown mendown the way around and she's
proud of it and she should be.
She really should be, becauseyeah, she's she is a tiny little
, little tot like really I meanshe, she's a petite little thing
, but she can put you down onyour knees so fast that your

(46:19):
head will spin.
And you know she's so cuteabout it because she'll be like.
My mom taught me never to start, but to finish it.

Speaker 1 (46:26):
That was your warning .

Speaker 2 (46:28):
Right, right, that was your warning.
You know, and it's I've taughther you don't ever start the
fight.
You don't ever start it.
You are not anybody's punchingbag, and that's the thing is
that if you're in a home andyou're watching that, as a child
you're growing up watching that.
You know.
And I hate to say this becauseanytime my bio parents, back in

(46:50):
the day, for the short durationof time they were around,
decided to get verbally out ofline, if you will to her, I
would immediately remove herfrom the environment and I got
in the middle of it and defendedher and made it where they

(47:10):
couldn't, you know, belittle herin any way, because that's not
what parents are supposed to doand grandparents don't make
broken promises and never toleave and will always be by
their side.
And you know, and I can't sayit's just my side, it's both of
our sides, both sides of ourfamily have, you know, made all
these promises.

(47:31):
But then you know, what reallygets me is that nobody else sees
it.
It's only the black sheep thatsee it.
It's only the scapegoat thatsees it, because the narcissist
turns it around and plays thevictim like oh, it's all their
fault.
They won't let me back in theirlife.
Right, we are a dramatrauma-free zone, drama,

(47:56):
trauma-free environment.
We do not welcome it.
We don't allow it.
We do not welcome it.
We don't allow it, we don'thave it, we don't want it.
We both had enough in our lives.
We're good.
He's barely awake.
I'm more awake now, now thatwe're almost done.

(48:16):
So our episode not beingreleased this morning at 5 am.
It's my fault.
I apologize, because my husbandwill tell you that I am this
person, that I'm not the wifethat sits down and does nothing
regardless even coming home fromsurgery, I go right back to
work, but so as we were flippingthe office around, he was like

(48:40):
don't touch anything, and so hekind of tried to put me in a
timeout which didn't go well inhis favor.
So when he came back up, I hadalready unhooked both of my.
I have two computers and Ialready unhooked them both and,
trying to like, pop by them, onearmed, to the other side of the
room, and I unhooked all theequipment and I didn't do it

(49:01):
with the best of intelligencebecause I didn't keep all the
cords right where they weresupposed to be because it's too
much tanglement.
I couldn't afford to fall so Iunhooked everything and my
husband lost his heart, had tolike reconnect and re-find, kind
of like a hide and seek, if youwill.
So that's on me and I doapologize to everybody that the

(49:23):
podcast didn't go out Today.
It will be, out.

Speaker 1 (49:27):
So, regardless of what, you may think.
I do not know everything.
My wife is up here doing it inthe office for 16 hours a day.
Darling, are you done receivingyour silence?

Speaker 2 (49:44):
It has slowed down.
Okay, we're at the point thatwe really can't take much more
any more injuries, any moresubmissions, and now, with my
two surgery procedures coming upin the next two weeks, I am
really trying to get this readyto go.
So it will be out for our bookin October so y'all be on the

(50:10):
lookout for Dear Silence and Iwill let my husband get a little
tidbit.
He has seen the cover.
He's the only one who has seenthe cover for this book.
What do you think of it?

Speaker 1 (50:18):
it's awesome freaking awesome, freaking awesome,
really, really awesome.
So y'all, please go visit ourwebsite and hop on our academy.
We'd like to have y'all enjoyeverything that Whiteface put
together.
There's a lot of, you know,real, real life experience in

(50:40):
there.

Speaker 2 (50:41):
Because I don't want to be little people who have
made other courses.
But I've taken courses before.
I've taken lots of courses, butsome of the courses I take have
been so dry, and so just how amI going to make through it?
I know what my husband's aboutto say, and so getting through
the material is so unbelievablyhard.
Know what my husband's about tosay, and so, like, getting

(51:01):
through the material is sounbelievably hard.
I know what he's about to say.
So sometimes it's challengingto get through the course
material and sometimes maybethat's why we dispense.
But I will tell you, I believeit, one that kind of just takes
the piss on some of them.
But this needs to be the reason.

(51:24):
The academy is the way it is.
It's interactive.
It's where you sit there and gooh my God, that's me.
Oh my God, I know, they knowexactly where I've been.
This is exactly what I've beenthrough, what I'm going through.
And we've heard that from somany people right and I
understand and I want you toknow.
We are doing a new landing pageand there are a few testimonies

(51:44):
on there.
But I have asked a lot ofpeople who have said I want to
put a testimony out there butI'm afraid to because my name
would be on it.
I told them not to Because, asmuch as I appreciate everybody
wanting to offer a testimony on,like, the St Hayden Phoenix
Center for Abuse, if you're notcomfortable doing so, don't.
I don't want you to show whoyou are to anyone because your

(52:10):
confidentiality is my number onegoal.
I'm having my language issue, mynumber one priority, sorry, my
number one priority is your.
Your confidence jelly.
So if you're uncomfortable,don't put your name on there and
say you know anything, as I doand my husband does.
We totally appreciate thepositive reviews.

(52:31):
I don't want you to putyourself out there and make
yourself worried, so don't dothat.
As we do appreciate the reviews,so that's why there's not as
many of the reviews out there,for that is because I tell
people it's about your safetyright and I think the courses do
talk to themselves and doreally explain themselves a

(52:53):
contagious model unstoppablewith victoria michaels this,
while unstoppable with VictoriaMichaels.

Speaker 1 (52:58):
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Please Jump on the Academy,it's free.
Check out some of the forces,check out all of them and then
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Your comments welcome.
Thank y'all for listeningtonight.
Bye y'all.