September 23, 2025 • 43 mins
Have you ever been silenced for speaking your truth? Join us for an intimate conversation about breaking through barriers and finding your voice even when others try to quiet it.
Victoria reveals the surprising backlash to her evidence-based book "Dark Dark Who's There," including a cease and desist letter despite her careful steps to change names and redact identifying features. As the black sheep in a narcissistic family system, she shares how speaking truth often makes you "the dangerous one" they try to silence - a reality many of our listeners will sadly recognize.
The conversation takes an uplifting turn as Victoria announces her selection as one of 100 influential women to be featured in "Her Story," broadcasting to 127 countries. This raw, makeup-free telling of her journey overcoming abuse demonstrates that healing is possible at any stage with proper support. We also celebrate the upcoming release of "Dear Silence You Lost" on October 1st - a powerful compilation of survival stories from hundreds of people worldwide who've broken their silence about abuse.
Michael reads one particularly moving letter from the book, written by a son to his abusive father, illustrating how recognizing toxic patterns can break generational cycles. The letter writer's determination to never become like his father resonates deeply with anyone who's witnessed or experienced family violence.
We take a vulnerable detour as Victoria shares her recent surgical experience resulting in hearing loss, including the heartbreaking moment of hearing "I love you" in her right ear for the last time. Her frustrations with medical professionals who made light of her condition highlight the importance of compassionate healthcare and proper advocacy.
Whether you're healing from trauma, supporting someone who is, or simply seeking to understand the journey better, this episode offers both practical wisdom and emotional resonance. Visit our academy through thecontagioussmile.com to access trauma-informed courses, many available for free or minimal cost, designed to guide others through their healing journey.
What truth have you been afraid to speak? Perhaps today is the day to break your silence.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Howdy y'all.
Welcome to another episode ofUnstoppable here to Contagious
Smile with Victoria, the sexyvixen that she is, and her
husband Michael.
Okay, howdy y'all.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
So let's talk about.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
God okay hold on.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Before you go any further, can I please ask you to
die on your back a little bit?
Hold on before you go anyfurther.
Can I please ask you to die onyour back a little bit?
For those that don't know, Idid go through this surgery,
which I'm trying to getacclimated to, and I'm just
gonna call it what it is itsucks?
I'm just excited to be with youokay, great, but I can't afford
to lose the only 12 of hearing Ihave left because I have
(00:42):
nothing in the right, I can'thear, there's no eardrum,
there's nothing.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
No vibration.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
There's nothing.
I feel like I'm underwater.
Whatever that sound is, I can'tmake anymore, and then my head
was like four centimeters fromme.
Okay, so now let that go away.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
I'm sorry, as I was saying is that better?
Speaker 2 (01:09):
A little bit, yeah, thanks.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
So my wife has recently come under fire because
of her latest book.
Oh we're going back there.
Dark Dark who's there Goingthere?
Absolutely.
So if you have not read DarkDark who's there, I suggest you
do to see what all thecontroversy is about.
It is really ruffles offeathers.
(01:33):
I'm just saying y'all get onAmazon, check it out.
Victoria Curie.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Cryptic, but I guess now that you put that cat out of
the bag.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Well, we can't say too much because you know
possible lawsuit.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Well, it's not a possible lawsuit.
At this point let's just try tobe as cryptic as we can.
Because you opened this up.
We received a cease and desistletter because, somehow or
another, someone thinks they seethemselves as a character
within the book and everyindividual character in Nart
(02:14):
Nart has been very carefully andI mean with such precaution
made sure that their faces wereadapted.
Geographics are changed,meaning like, where are they
geographically?
Um, there is no photographs ofdistinguishing marks that would
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identify a person.
There is no actual.
I mean the names have beenchanged.
But other than that, everythingis 1000 factual and it's all
evidence based.
And so apparently you know whenyou're coming from a
narcissistic family and you'rethe black sheep and this is a
big no no, and so we receive asquash it letter.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
That's in the beginning phases, which it's
just you know so we'll leavethis up to your own substitution
as to whom because we're notgoing to say that's right
apparently.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
But I mean, you know anybody who's ever been black?
She you know.
But I mean they're, and I'vetalked to many people and I've
talked to attorneys and andeverybody's like, nobody is
identifiable by like there's no.
All the pictures, their facesare redacted and names have been
changed and so there is nodistinguished marks that say oh,
(03:37):
that's you know, the elephanttamer or that's the dog groomer
or or you know whatever, but thebook is factually based without
question, and you know there'ssome other issues in there that
I never made a situation of,where you know, when you've
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copywritten a book and I havecopywritten a book, a book and I
have copywritten a book,there's copyright infringement.
If somebody takes excerpts ofyour book without your consent
and places it upon their socialmedia platform and I'm not
talking about only insert ofbook, say, such as dialogue but
(04:19):
even the cover is copyrightinfringement and that had been
done, uh, I guess, years ago andI let it go.
I knew it happened and I let itgo and I didn't pursue it, even
though it is clear as daycopyright infringement, um, and
it's obvious that it's this book.
Right, so it's.
(04:41):
You know, I've had some peoplesay they're just pissed that
their feathers got ruffled.
Um, you know, the black sheepis the one that they try to make
everybody hate because you'rethe most dangerous and that's
why they belittle you so muchyour entire life.
So, um, you know here it iswhere we get this and it's just
(05:05):
like are you serious and you andI have not sought revenge or
anything on anyone ever.
We never have.
That's just not who we are.
Um, we both, on both sides,have had plenty of opportunity
to do it and never done it.
Uh, we just want to help otherpeople, but there there's not
(05:27):
much you know to say about this,except, you know, I don't know,
I just I'm kind of just alittle like okay, well, how do
you dispute evidence?
Yeah, that's what, what's goingto be and evidence ends up
having to be disputed, then doesthat mean everything gets
(05:47):
redacted and that shit gets real.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
I mean sorry, that's what it is.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Shit's going to get real if that's what ends up
having to happen.
Self-identification is not thesame as being identified as, but
that's what ends up.
Hey, rusty, rusty just wantseverybody to know.
Our sweet rusty boy is heregiving kisses and some loving.
Yeah, stucco's at mama's feet.
(06:16):
Rusty's right here too.
Yeah, don't go bowling.
So anyway, there's that fun andexcitement.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
So now that we've said that.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
How about I give you some news you don't know about?
That's going to like totallyshock you.
He's going to be like I'm notsurprised.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Let me guess you're writing another book.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
I'm always writing something, but You've started
another course.
I've written three today.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
You've written three courses.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Y'all going on our academy and check out these
three new courses.
What can I tell you?
There must be 140, at leastmaybe 140 classes, courses that
my wife has come up with thecurriculum and put all this
(07:06):
together and some of theseclasses are amazing.
Some of them are free.
Some of them, you know, you pay$4.99.
What do you do?
But definitely well worth it.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Go check out the academy.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
You can get to it through the main website, the
contagious spacom.
All right.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Are you ready, so I just learned while you were.
You know that.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Why I sleep or take a nap, or wow, I do have a
medical condition.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
You know, women, the only great thing.
I always have to find thesilver lining, because if I
don't I'd be really upset in mylife by all of the.
You know fragments that make mewarm now.
So I turned my right side to myhead when I was talking
gibberish.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Really.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Okay, so find out why you're know sawing logs that on
september 30th, which is a weekfrom tomorrow um, I have been
chosen.
I didn't tell you that I wasdoing this yet because I didn't
(08:19):
want to jinx it or whatever.
I have been chosen as one of100 of the most influential
women and I am going to be ontelevision in 127 countries all
right.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Well, that's my wife.
For you, another accomplishmentwell, it is um.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
It's called her story .
It's going to be 127 countriesbroadcasted um and it's a.
It's a global event and I wasasked some time back and I did
all of it and then we had to putin the submissions.
We were, I was chosen oh thatbig thing and then, well, but I
didn't know if I had it or not,if I got it right.
(09:10):
And then I got this email whileyou're sleeping that they
didn't in fact choose my storyand, um, it's going well.
I actually was wrong.
You'll love it.
I have hardly any makeup.
My husband hates when I wearmakeup and I was raw when I did
this um interview where it'scalled she is me, you know, and
(09:35):
I'm like basically she's me andit.
It is the rawness of me andmakeup.
My injuries are pretty muchshowing of how I overcame, and
so could anybody else.
I mean, it's just raw, likealmost makeup free.
Very scary.
Please put on sunglasses andtake away small children so you
(09:56):
don't frighten them becauseHalloween's coming Scary.
The story of how I overcame allthis abuse and got through it
and now to be chosen for one ofthe top 100 women and go into
127 countries.
That's such an honor.
It's a huge honor.
(10:16):
I can never do anything thatjust makes my husband go.
Oh my god, I'm so shocked.
Congratulations.
What you set the bar high woman, I know it never gets you to be
like wow, I'm so shocked,seriously, never, never.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Exactly.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
No.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Because you set the bar yourself.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Well, some people do.
I don't think so at all, anyway.
So, needless to, say this isjust about how you know, at any
stage in your life, you can getthrough heartache and turmoil if
you have the right support, andI have the right support.
(11:06):
I'm looking at my husband.
He is my support and strengthand the love of my life.
Why are you making that face?
Because, tomorrow is herbirthday y'all.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
If I can make it to hear there, and she turns the
big your mouth, the big herbirthday y'all, if I can make it
to here there and she turns thebig your mouth.
The big.
Well, I'll keep that part asecret.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Uh-huh, and October 1 , we are releasing the Dear
Silence you Lost and we got thebooks today.
They look great.
You haven't got to either,swallow a magnifying microphone
because it's like a hundredtimes louder than ever.
(11:54):
Why don't you open it?
Speaker 1 (11:57):
The book is only 160 pages, but it is compiled by
Victoria Curie.
It is written by well overseveral hundred people.
No no, Right right.
More came in, so people fromaround the world wrote in their
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small snippets of survivalstories.
And yeah, why don't you takeone?
Speaker 2 (12:26):
and read it.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Oh gosh, I don't want to start crying.
You know how I am.
You'll cry over this becauseyou won't cry because your wife
got top six, because I know mywife, you won't cry over the
fact that your wife got top sixor one of the top 100 books,
because I know my wife.
You're amazing, my wife isamazing.
My husband is going to pick oneof the three ones.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Hopefully it's, I don't know, let's just pick one.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Dear Dad, let's just pick one Dear Dad Is that a good
one.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
You read it.
You read that one, dear Dad,and I hope the listener who sent
this in is listening right now.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Trigger warning ahead of time.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Yeah, because I haven't read this y'all.
Dear Dad, I used to look at youand think you were a superhero.
Let me turn the microphone thisway.
I thought your voice could filla room because it was strong.
I thought your hands were bigbecause they were meant to
protect.
I thought our house was loudbecause that's just how families
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were.
I didn't understand, not atfirst, but now I do.
I know the sound of a slammeddoor before a fight.
I know what it looks like whensomeone's scared but trying not
to cry.
I know how silence can feellike shouting, and I know that
love doesn't leave bruises.
You taught me that by doing theopposite.
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I used to count the secondsbetween your footsteps and her
flinch.
I used to pretend I was asleepso I wouldn't see what you would
do next.
I used to beg God to let it bea quiet night.
Do you even remember the nightshe covered my ears with her
hands?
She was the one bleeding andstill tried to protect me from
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the sound of your rage.
You called her weak, but Inever seen anything stronger.
You said she was a problem, butI saw her white blood from her
lips and took me into bed in thesame breath.
She was my superhero, myprotector.
You were nothing more than apiece of shit.
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How could you call yourself aman, a father, a husband?
You said you loved us, but yourkind of love felt like fear.
I'm not writing this because Iwant an apology.
I'm writing this because Irefuse to carry your violence,
like it's part of me.
You don't get to take up spacein my chest anymore.
(15:03):
You don't get to control whatkind of man I became.
And you sure as hell, don't getto redefine love.
For me, love doesn't scream,love doesn't bruise, love
doesn't leave a child wonderingwhich version of their father
will walk through the doortonight.
I'm not afraid of becoming you.
(15:24):
I'm terrified of ever makingsomeone feel the way you made
her feel, the way you made mefeel.
But here's what you didn't see.
You didn't see me watching herlearn to breathe again.
You didn't see her find hervoice, her spine, her smile.
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You didn't see me learning whatreal strength looks like Quiet,
steady, gentle and true.
She survived you.
I'm becoming someone because ofher and in spite of you.
This isn't revenge.
This is release.
You broke the sound of home forme.
I'm rebuilding it without fear,in the walls, without you in
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the doorway.
Don't make mistake my silence.
I'm sorry.
Don't mistake my silence forweakness.
I'm sorry, don't mistake mysilence for weakness.
It was survival, but now Ispeak and I speak loud.
I saw everything and I willnever be anything like you.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Signed your son, the man you will never be.
Wow, now you have to understand.
Some of the people who wrotethese to me are 14, 15, 16 years
old, with parental consent thatcame with.
Some of them are 17, 18, 19years old.
Some of them are 30 years old.
I had someone who was like intheir 70s who wrote me yeah um,
but to to the young man whowrote that good for you.
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I mean, you can tell that hegenuinely thought every word,
you can hear his life'sexperiences of what he endured
and you can hear the dedicationand honor he has towards his mom
in that right there's a lotthat's incredibly powerful.
And that's just one of many,many, many letters of
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submissions that came in andthey're all very powerful and
you know they are hard to read,they are heartbreaking.
There are some that areuplifting, but even the ones
that really grab you and reallygrab a hold of your heart if you
take a step back after andreally go back and look at it.
Yes, it's hard, it istriggering, it is sad but it's
also so refreshing to see thatthey realized and they stopped
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and they broke the cycle.
And they realized that theydidn't deserve this anymore.
And what a breakout for themright.
What an uplifting moment forthem and for them to share it
with us.
It's just amazing and I'm sograteful for all that.
You're right, you can tell hedid break the cycle.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
He could have said oh , that's what a real man is
Right, that's what a father, ahusband, is supposed to do to
his wife.
That's the way a woman'ssupposed to be treated.
They're supposed to be beat,they're supposed to be hit.
Yeah that push around.
But no, he didn't do that.
He did the exact opposite.
Kudos to him.
Kudos for shouting out.
(18:23):
Kudos to mom For speaking up,and a real mom should do that.
They should stand in the way ofthat, not tell you you deserved
it because you stayed.
That's right.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Absolutely not.
So y'all you know I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
That's right?
Absolutely not.
So y'all.
You know I'm sorry, I think Istuck up.
You did Y'all get on Amazon andpick up her latest book.
It's out.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
It's supposed to be on October 1st.
It's going to be with a masterclass that is valued at $497.
I'm doing it for free.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
There's also a survival kit that goes with it.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
It's got its own mini collection for deer silence
within the Safe Haven Phoenixcollection on the Academy of all
these different things.
Help, then, donate five dollars, ten dollars, whatever you can,
because that provides somebodyelse the opportunity to get the
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help that they need, theguidance they need, the healing
that they need.
These are all trauma-basedcourses from people who've gone
through it and they're healingfrom it.
What is going on with my puppy?
He's.
It's almost like you get alittle ice cream from him.
It must be Scott Hamilton fromhim.
But there's trauma.
(19:44):
Informed information that helpsyou get through the toughest
times in this academy.
So do you want to jump up hereand talk to everybody?
I mean, what is going on here,baby?
He's just.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
All right.
So what's next on the agenda?
Speaker 2 (20:03):
for.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Change of Summer.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Because you know he was amazing.
We did reach out to him atTurnpoint about a year ago maybe
, and we had not had theopportunity to have him on.
I would have loved to have himon.
I would have loved to have himon.
I loved his concept and hisphilosophy like it didn't matter
(20:30):
if you didn't agree with him.
He would sit and listen to you,he paid you respect, listen to
what you had to say and and hada conversation with you right
and tried to help you see things, and that is something a lot of
people don't do anymore, and somy heart goes out to erica and
his two beautiful, beautifulkids.
(20:51):
You know, these people arecoming out saying that they're
going to take care of them, um,financially, until the kids
become an adult, and I might bewrong, but I think they said el
Musk offered $50 million forErica and the kids.
I believe it was Elon Musk.
It's like $50 million for yourkids to raise to your 18.
(21:14):
Are you serious?
You know we could have done $5million, right?
No, I'm just saying it's justamazing that you know, know
people want to help and turningpoint is going to continue
legacy and this jackass did notkill charlie kirk as in the
(21:36):
legend.
He, he just created a millionmore charlie kirks, because I
mean, when you think about it, Ican't remember a time in
history when you had thepresident the vice president.
Um, you know, a good majority ofthe cabinet all under one roof,
like that's a big no-no, youdon't do that.
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And they were all there.
And the very end, when Trumpbrought Erica back on the stage,
it was not a dry eye.
Not a man, not a woman, not achild had a dry eye anywhere in
there.
And she actually said sheforgave the alleged assassin.
Could you?
Speaker 1 (22:16):
forgive her.
No, hell, no.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
No, no, but it's vengeance is not us to give
Vengeance is not ours to give.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
It's forgiveness.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
I'm not forgiving the idiot who did what he did to
you, the idiot.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
You made it for him?
Yeah, but I'm just saying, likeyou know, she openly stated
that oh, it's done.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
That she.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
I don't know what's going on.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Our service animals are in our office with us during
this podcast and both of themare just.
I don't know if they feelsomething or they just seem
needy right now.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Well, I had to go to my prosthetic team, my
prosthesis today and try to getthem to like work on my.
They can't get the fittingright for my nub, no matter how
many times I've been casted anduncasted and casted again and
they can't get it to fit andthen, um, because my nub is not
(23:18):
anchored the way it's supposedto anymore.
It's not what do you call itit's twisted y'all it's twisted
arm is twisted and so it doesn'tgo out right like everybody
else's and so to get the umprosthetic or whatever you want
to call it on there, and thenthey have to cast it and try to
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fit it and put sensors and thentry to be either move muscle and
all.
I've had muscle transpositions,muscle transfers, nerve
transfers, nerve transpositions,so it makes a little
challenging.
And so then they put a sharpieinside the market, my arm and
try to get it to work.
So it's pretty swollen, theysaid it would be, and I think
they're sensing that too and Istill have all my stitches from
(24:02):
surgery.
Those are all still lingering inthere.
So are you kissing themicrophone?
Yes, he is, he is.
He's kissing the mic.
So, yeah, you want to talk.
What do you want to talk about?
Stucco wants you guys to go onand see Stucco Squad.
(24:23):
That's so much fun.
I love the Stucco Squad.
It's for all these gorgeouskiddos to go on and learn how to
do things with Stucco, liketake you know addition for
example.
It teaches you how to add Stuccohelps learn how to add with you
or learns how to subtract withyou, and teaches you all the
know how to handle being bulliedat school or how to make
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someone have better self-esteemthere's so many wonderful things
about the stucco squad, andstucco is front and center in
all of it.
And who doesn't love abeautiful golden retriever?
we've got two of them right hereand so they are ready to go and
play with you on the Step ofSquin Academy.
Right, boys, my husband isdiligently in, but over there I
(25:09):
also wanna check and telleverybody thank you who has
reached out and text messagesand sorry I'm asleep.
I have not been sleeping evenless than normal from the
surgery and people have beenlike really just so sweet
flowers and all sorts of stuffand I just want to say can we
(25:33):
please, please, please work on?
If you're in there to have asurgery, could y'all like, if
you're in the medical profession, could y'all like, if you're in
the medical profession, couldy'all like read?
an allergy ban I'm just sayingis there a possibility of a
reading of an allergy ban?
Because, like you know,everybody who knows my husband
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and I, we have a um, unusualright sense of humor, right, and
my husband went in wearing thisshirt saying deaf D-E-A-F not
listening and I got him a shirtand I've never had this surgeon
operate on me before and he's aspecialist, and I thought, ok,
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well, oh, I am so sorry.
Wow, it would be a greaticebreaker to make everybody
laugh if he saw my husbandwearing the shirt.
So, first and correct me if I'mwrong, babe, we come, we get in
there and they're trying to youknow, fish for getting the iv
(26:37):
in, and then one of the membersof the team, um who you know.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
I'm always the protector.
My husband will just flat outtell you who it was comes in and
says what are we doing today?
Speaker 2 (26:47):
And I said you're making me deaf and I was
mortified at the fact that thisindividual thought it was funny
and downright started crackingup laughing and it was like I
actually said what is so funny?
Now, in fairness, I actuallysaid what is so funny.
Now in fairness, I'm not onVerset, I'm not on anything.
I take zero before I go into theOR.
(27:09):
So we are in pre-op and I waslike what is so funny?
And what exactly did she say?
She was like that you're goingdeaf, I mean.
And I was like it's not funnyat all.
And then I went over three timesmy allergies, you know,
reminding them of what I can andcannot have done.
And then we go back into, we'regetting ready to go back, and I
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look at my husband and I saidto him tell me you love me one
last time in my right ear.
And when he did, I didn't tellhim but it, it literally was one
of these heart-wrenching,heartbreaking moments for me,
because when you told me I loveyou for the last time in that
year, like I it just it justtook me out, like you know, like
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swept me off in a bad waybecause it was like I'm never
gonna hear that again, nevergonna hear you say that to me in
my ear again, and it was very,very hard.
And then faith did too and itwas like double whammy and so
the whole way back to the or Iwas just like trying to capture
it and you know, almost save itand just replay it, replay and
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replay it.
We get into the or, and I'm like, okay, you know they're
supposed to like move you to theother bed and a lot of times if
you're on their set you'realready out, and I'm just like,
okay, well, let me tell youbecause they don't know me, this
is not my normal team and andI'm you know, I'm the one who
makes everybody laugh and and soI'm like, what kind of music do
we listen to?
oh, he doesn't listen to musicat all.
This is a big surgery, this isa several hour surgery and he's
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not listening to music, quiet.
And so I had said, um, okay,well, I want to go over again a
couple of things, because myallergies are really bad, and so
I said I don't want to go tosleep until the very last second
, which is normally after theydo a timeout.
That didn't happen.
Next thing, I know they like.
(29:04):
I asked the fellow, you know,can I ask why this would be
funny?
And he was like I don't thinkit's funny at all, and then I
was like she's right here, isn'tshe?
He says, yeah, great, and Itold her again I did not want to
go to sleep until absolutelylast second, blah, blah, blah.
And then I wanted to go overthe allergies again because I
(29:27):
knew what would happen and nextthing I know I'm out.
Like they didn't even warn me,they didn't normally they say
okay, we're starting the purplefall.
We're starting, you know, thelanocaine.
They, they tell you, they tellyou that they're starting this
is going to burn because we'restarting the lanocaine and this
is going to burn because we'restarting the Atlanticade and
this is going to burn becausewe're doing the front of the
fall.
Maybe a minute countdown for 10or whatever.
Nobody does that.
So I was out and then when Igot into post-op immediately it
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was like within.
A couple minutes.
They were just do you need tobe admitted?
No, I don't need to be admitted.
And I wonder if they knew now,because I look like I ate a
puffer fish from the movie Hitchand I look huge, my ear was
huge, my face was you knowwhatever.
And then I found out that oneof the things that I'm allergic
to they used to clean what theycall the field prior to doing
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surgery.
So just read your dog on.
Right Do your job, brac Right,do your job Know your patient.
I mean, I tried to tell themnumerous times, it wasn't like
that?
Speaker 1 (30:28):
No, you did tell them , you didn't try.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
Right, but I mean, it wasn't like I wasn't trying,
you know, it wasn't likewhatever.
And then take intoconsideration that I don't care.
I say this so I'm.
You know, whatever it doesn'tmatter if it's one surgery or a
million surgeries or 150surgeries, it's still surgeries
and it's a big, dumb, long deal.
And losing your hearing is nothaving a inguinal atomy or
(30:51):
anything right, it's a big dealand it's very life-altering.
Like I was profoundly deaf inthis ear but I'm still trying to
get acclimated to it and it isquite challenging it.
It is quite.
I feel like I'm under water, Ifeel like I have my ear full of
fluid, my ear still glued andbecause they did it stitch down
so you can't see in the insidemy ear anymore, and literally it
(31:17):
was just like.
That's a big deal and to makelight of it and laugh in front
of your patient's face, I thinkis is crummy, to say the least.
I really do.
And if I was advocating or hadthat been?
faith.
Oh, oh, hell, no, no, no, no,we wouldn't, it would we would
(31:38):
have had a very differentoutcome at that point.
I think, I do point, I thinkand I'm proud of my husband
because my understanding is foronce my husband stayed awake for
this one.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
Ha ha.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
You slept through the whole thing.
Most of my surgeries you sleptthrough.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
That was strategic Seriously.
Seriously, you like that no.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
But you stayed awake for this one.
You were kind of irritated withthis one before I went back.
So, yeah, yeah, faith was likehe stayed away and it hurts my
heart because, like when I'mdriving and and faith is sitting
beside me, like if I have theair conditioner on, I cannot
hear her right.
Or if I'm trying to hear, like Ilove listening to megan kelly.
(32:24):
We all know this.
So if I'm listening to megankelly and she tries to say
something, forget it.
I can't differentiate the two,um, and then she will literally
just be like carmia carmia andshe just gets going right and
I'm focused on the road.
I don't touch my phone while I'mdriving, um nothing.
(32:45):
So I'm, and then, when she'sdone, she looks at me like well,
then I don't even know, shesaid anything right.
And I feel horrible, horrible,horrible.
And then I'm like babe, yougotta speak up.
Oh right, right, I'm sorry, I'msorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
So it's, you gotta getacclimated to it and it sucks
and I'm glad it's me and not youguys, because it's.
(33:06):
But you know can't change things.
I just, I just wish thingswould be so.
You know, we're introverts andwe like just to kind of be here
and we don't bother people.
All we want to do is helppeople.
Some people have sticks intheir asses.
I'm saying, and it's likemisery loves company.
(33:30):
I don't think that I have everfound a more truthful quote
right.
That's more applicable rightnow, because if you're unhappy
and someone pisses in yourcornflakes, do you want?
to make that a buffet one, likeseriously, I mean, that's just
the best way to sum it up andit's ridiculous.
You know, look in the mirrorand then just be like wow, and
(33:57):
then you know.
One other step I guess I cansay which is kind of ironic,
babe, is when you are and Idon't know how my husband's
getting reactive by saying this.
But not only does misery lovecompany, but when you have to
have someone else do your workfor you, you know, when you have
(34:18):
to, like psychologically, in anegative way, spin it, for
someone else to not realize whatyou're doing because you're
unhappy and you have to put itoff on someone else because you
can't do it yourself, is acoward, it's misery.
(34:39):
It's misery like it's miserableyou know, my husband has this
shit eating bread on his face.
But I mean, you know, I wentthrough great lengths.
I mean, it took me months tomake sure every name, every
photo, everything was redacted.
Every every story in there isfactual.
But there was no way somebodycould say that's the dog breeder
(35:01):
, you know or that's the lawncare guy or you know whatever,
but to be like, oh you know, andthen the hot potato pass it,
but then act like you knowyou're the groundkeeper.
It's just, it's dumbfounding tome and that and you know,
that's one of the things I'velearned for 40 years on the
couch of therapy is that's whyyou and I will never be those
(35:24):
people, because we don't havethe mental makeup to be so
corrupt.
And what's the other word?
Speaker 1 (35:35):
I'm looking for Crosswires twisted the sequel,
the sequel.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
The sequel.
I mean, why can't you just liveyour life?
No one's bothering you, why doyou have to just interrupt?
Speaker 1 (35:56):
shit Right.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
But sometimes you can't walk stuff back.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
Nope, this is a good episode.
Yeah, great episode.
I love it when we do ittogether, I mean really.
I mean yeah, Well, shit.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
And he's been giving me such a hard time.
Don't pick.
Don't pick because the thingthat he sent me home with looks
like I had a cup on, like aman's cup.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
No, that was your buddy.
I won't mention his name, buthis initials are Joseph.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
His initials are Joseph.
What do you still haven't givenhim the one that you promised?
Speaker 1 (36:35):
A real buddy, he said it looked like you had a
jockstrap on the side of yourhead.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
It didn't look like that, but you know, and then you
know it was a pretty big shot Iguess I borrowed yours.
Hey, well, all right.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
That concludes today's episode.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
Holy crap, that was the wrong way.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
Hey, who's got the torn shorts?
In other words, other news.
Can we edit some of thisAbsolutely?
Not I need to talk to yourproducer.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
I am your producer.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
Well who does the?
Speaker 2 (37:16):
editing I do Well shit what would you like to see
happen in the next year with us?
Speaker 1 (37:28):
For me to lose 50 pounds.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
Can I lose 50 pounds?
Speaker 1 (37:33):
You don't have 50 pounds to lose 40.
No, darling 30.
No, darling.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
No, darling man, watch how you tell your wife
that certain things are certain.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
Oh shit, Are we going there?
Speaker 2 (37:45):
I'm just saying, like you know, at our age phat is
not relevant, like we don't.
Women don't listen to phat andwhen you're like hey, that's fat
.
We think of put the donuts down.
You're kind of fat, not you knowpretty hot and tempting fat
right.
So you know I I have not beenone to do the glp shot
(38:10):
injections.
I have not, um, because I amsomeone who's very conscious
about keeping myself as healthyas possible, not weight wise,
but so, god forbid, um, ourdaughter needs my kidney, she
will have it, and so I have nottaken any of those.
And because of all thesurgeries I've had, I've never
(38:31):
taken pain medication.
I ate my pain and I did put onweight.
I was in the mid-epidemic andso I've lost well over half of
it and I have more to lose.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
And I've gained it.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
And I have never said a word about my husband except
how hot he is.
And hot I didn't say fat, Isaid hot and how good looking he
is.
And so the other day my husbandmade a remark about something
being fat, and then he tried towalk it back and said oh no, I
mean PHAT.
I mean PHAT.
Yes, I doA-T.
(39:06):
I mean P-H-A-T.
No, you don't.
Yes, I do, I do, I do.
Oh shit, like that's what Ithought.
So, man, come on now, get yourfoot out of your mouth and say
it correctly.
Don't be like.
Women don't want to hear thatbody parts are fat.
(39:29):
I've never called you fat.
Do I need to go back and tellyou?
Speaker 1 (39:31):
what body part you said was fat?
That was different.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
It's not different.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
It is different.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
It's totally not different.
In 25 years it's not different.
Have you ever said that to mein 25 years?
No.
Thank you Now what Good nighty'all, thank you.
Now what?
good night y'all and you have toimagine I gotta get Faith in
here one day because they're sofunny.
(39:55):
On the way back tonight westopped at Zaxby's to grab a
bite.
Yeah, it was horrible.
We were gonna grab somethingbecause it was gonna take way
too long.
And so the minute he goes up toget the food, we have the
drinks at the table.
She takes some of my unsweettea and maybe shared it with him
and his sweet tea, and she hadthis look on her face where
(40:17):
she's trying to keep it straight.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
Why were y'all sharing sweet tea with me, or
unsweet tea?
Speaker 2 (40:21):
Oh, she was just trying to ruin the taste for you
.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
Oh, she was just trying to ruin the taste for you
, but why were you sharing tea?
Speaker 2 (40:27):
We weren't.
She was taking Because I didn'thave a lot of tea.
Well, that was before you didthat.
So when he brought his trayover with the food on it, he
knocked the drink over anddecided to make his fries a la
tea instead of a la mode.
So his fries took a swim in theriver of tea.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
Three quarters of my cup went on my food.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
Yeah, and I offered you mine.
You didn't want them.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
I figured it was going down the same hole Coming
out.
The same hole Was that ProbablyI ate dripping soggy
tea-covered fries Cheese fries.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
And she has this look on her face and she has like
the perfect timing.
She's like listen to you,sweetheart.
She's like as long as you treatmy mom good, you're safe for
now.
And then she's so funny becauseshe like pulls out of her
little satchel purse that shecarries these scissors.
The two of them are hilarious.
(41:35):
I mean, y'all absolutely makemy face hurt because y'all are
so funny.
I'm telling you, grumpy oldknight has nothing.
She'll go by him and he'll belike what?
And then she'll be like why isthe empty jug of tea right in
front of the garbage can like?
Why can't you put that in there?
And he was like kitten andshe's like slut and it's like
(41:57):
non-stop back and forth.
It is the funniest doggonething you've ever seen.
It's hilarious.
He'll come in and be likewhere's my daddy home and she'll
be like it's non-stop, it'shilarious, it's so cute.
And then he the other thing shedoes whenever he's like, oh
that kid, she rolls up hersleeve and shows him that her
(42:18):
entire forearm is tattooed forhim, and then he just shuts up
and she's like yeah, that'sright.
Who's like yeah, that's right,who's wrapped?
You're wrapped, that's right,you're wrapped, it's so cute, it
is so, so cute.
Speaker 1 (42:29):
What father has a defense against that?
Speaker 2 (42:32):
You love, worship and adore that child.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
Because she's mine, she's my little squiggly.
Speaker 2 (42:39):
I cannot believe you call her your little squiggly.
That's right, I mean that's notappropriate what you call her
your squiggly?
Speaker 1 (42:49):
Yeah, she is.
That's not appropriate.
You can call her your A.
Speaker 2 (42:53):
I'm not going to call her my A.
What's wrong with you?
I'm going to call her my A.
You know what.
I'm going to turn to the right.
She's one of your werewolves,my what.
Speaker 1 (43:03):
Werewolves.
Speaker 2 (43:03):
What Were?
Huevos?
I'm a caller, what?
Speaker 1 (43:05):
are you a caller In here, good?
Speaker 2 (43:07):
night y'all.
Speaker 1 (43:09):
Thank you for listening to Unstoppable With
Victoria and Michael.
Speaker 2 (43:15):
Hey, does that mean you're going to be nice and then
I can have an English muffinwith cream cheese?
Speaker 1 (43:19):
Y'all wish her a happy birthday tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (43:22):
Can you wish like?
Can I have an English muffin?
Speaker 1 (43:24):
You can have whatever you want, sweetheart.
Speaker 2 (43:26):
Sweetheart eating fat .
Speaker 1 (43:28):
You're not fat.
Speaker 2 (43:29):
You're echoing in my non-echoing ear.
Speaker 1 (43:32):
I just want to make sure you heard me.
Speaker 2 (43:34):
I think Japan heard you Really?
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:39):
I'm really that alone .
Good night y'all.
Howdy y'all.
Welcome to another episode ofUnstoppable here to Contagious
Smile with Victoria, the sexyvixen that she is, and her
husband Michael.
Okay, howdy y'all.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
So let's talk about.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
God okay hold on.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Before you go any further, can I please ask you to
die on your back a little bit?
Hold on before you go anyfurther.
Can I please ask you to die onyour back a little bit?
For those that don't know, Idid go through this surgery,
which I'm trying to getacclimated to, and I'm just
gonna call it what it is itsucks?
I'm just excited to be with youokay, great, but I can't afford
to lose the only 12 of hearing Ihave left because I have
(00:42):
nothing in the right, I can'thear, there's no eardrum,
there's nothing.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
No vibration.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
There's nothing.
I feel like I'm underwater.
Whatever that sound is, I can'tmake anymore, and then my head
was like four centimeters fromme.
Okay, so now let that go away.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
I'm sorry, as I was saying is that better?
Speaker 2 (01:09):
A little bit, yeah, thanks.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
So my wife has recently come under fire because
of her latest book.
Oh we're going back there.
Dark Dark who's there Goingthere?
Absolutely.
So if you have not read DarkDark who's there, I suggest you
do to see what all thecontroversy is about.
It is really ruffles offeathers.
(01:33):
I'm just saying y'all get onAmazon, check it out.
Victoria Curie.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Cryptic, but I guess now that you put that cat out of
the bag.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Well, we can't say too much because you know
possible lawsuit.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Well, it's not a possible lawsuit.
At this point let's just try tobe as cryptic as we can.
Because you opened this up.
We received a cease and desistletter because, somehow or
another, someone thinks they seethemselves as a character
within the book and everyindividual character in Nart
(02:14):
Nart has been very carefully andI mean with such precaution
made sure that their faces wereadapted.
Geographics are changed,meaning like, where are they
geographically?
Um, there is no photographs ofdistinguishing marks that would
(02:35):
identify a person.
There is no actual.
I mean the names have beenchanged.
But other than that, everythingis 1000 factual and it's all
evidence based.
And so apparently you know whenyou're coming from a
narcissistic family and you'rethe black sheep and this is a
big no no, and so we receive asquash it letter.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
That's in the beginning phases, which it's
just you know so we'll leavethis up to your own substitution
as to whom because we're notgoing to say that's right
apparently.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
But I mean, you know anybody who's ever been black?
She you know.
But I mean they're, and I'vetalked to many people and I've
talked to attorneys and andeverybody's like, nobody is
identifiable by like there's no.
All the pictures, their facesare redacted and names have been
changed and so there is nodistinguished marks that say oh,
(03:37):
that's you know, the elephanttamer or that's the dog groomer
or or you know whatever, but thebook is factually based without
question, and you know there'ssome other issues in there that
I never made a situation of,where you know, when you've
(03:59):
copywritten a book and I havecopywritten a book, a book and I
have copywritten a book,there's copyright infringement.
If somebody takes excerpts ofyour book without your consent
and places it upon their socialmedia platform and I'm not
talking about only insert ofbook, say, such as dialogue but
(04:19):
even the cover is copyrightinfringement and that had been
done, uh, I guess, years ago andI let it go.
I knew it happened and I let itgo and I didn't pursue it, even
though it is clear as daycopyright infringement, um, and
it's obvious that it's this book.
Right, so it's.
(04:41):
You know, I've had some peoplesay they're just pissed that
their feathers got ruffled.
Um, you know, the black sheepis the one that they try to make
everybody hate because you'rethe most dangerous and that's
why they belittle you so muchyour entire life.
So, um, you know here it iswhere we get this and it's just
(05:05):
like are you serious and you andI have not sought revenge or
anything on anyone ever.
We never have.
That's just not who we are.
Um, we both, on both sides,have had plenty of opportunity
to do it and never done it.
Uh, we just want to help otherpeople, but there there's not
(05:27):
much you know to say about this,except, you know, I don't know,
I just I'm kind of just alittle like okay, well, how do
you dispute evidence?
Yeah, that's what, what's goingto be and evidence ends up
having to be disputed, then doesthat mean everything gets
(05:47):
redacted and that shit gets real.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
I mean sorry, that's what it is.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Shit's going to get real if that's what ends up
having to happen.
Self-identification is not thesame as being identified as, but
that's what ends up.
Hey, rusty, rusty just wantseverybody to know.
Our sweet rusty boy is heregiving kisses and some loving.
Yeah, stucco's at mama's feet.
(06:16):
Rusty's right here too.
Yeah, don't go bowling.
So anyway, there's that fun andexcitement.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
So now that we've said that.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
How about I give you some news you don't know about?
That's going to like totallyshock you.
He's going to be like I'm notsurprised.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Let me guess you're writing another book.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
I'm always writing something, but You've started
another course.
I've written three today.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
You've written three courses.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Y'all going on our academy and check out these
three new courses.
What can I tell you?
There must be 140, at leastmaybe 140 classes, courses that
my wife has come up with thecurriculum and put all this
(07:06):
together and some of theseclasses are amazing.
Some of them are free.
Some of them, you know, you pay$4.99.
What do you do?
But definitely well worth it.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Go check out the academy.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
You can get to it through the main website, the
contagious spacom.
All right.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Are you ready, so I just learned while you were.
You know that.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Why I sleep or take a nap, or wow, I do have a
medical condition.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
You know, women, the only great thing.
I always have to find thesilver lining, because if I
don't I'd be really upset in mylife by all of the.
You know fragments that make mewarm now.
So I turned my right side to myhead when I was talking
gibberish.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Really.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Okay, so find out why you're know sawing logs that on
september 30th, which is a weekfrom tomorrow um, I have been
chosen.
I didn't tell you that I wasdoing this yet because I didn't
(08:19):
want to jinx it or whatever.
I have been chosen as one of100 of the most influential
women and I am going to be ontelevision in 127 countries all
right.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Well, that's my wife.
For you, another accomplishmentwell, it is um.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
It's called her story .
It's going to be 127 countriesbroadcasted um and it's a.
It's a global event and I wasasked some time back and I did
all of it and then we had to putin the submissions.
We were, I was chosen oh thatbig thing and then, well, but I
didn't know if I had it or not,if I got it right.
(09:10):
And then I got this email whileyou're sleeping that they
didn't in fact choose my storyand, um, it's going well.
I actually was wrong.
You'll love it.
I have hardly any makeup.
My husband hates when I wearmakeup and I was raw when I did
this um interview where it'scalled she is me, you know, and
(09:35):
I'm like basically she's me andit.
It is the rawness of me andmakeup.
My injuries are pretty muchshowing of how I overcame, and
so could anybody else.
I mean, it's just raw, likealmost makeup free.
Very scary.
Please put on sunglasses andtake away small children so you
(09:56):
don't frighten them becauseHalloween's coming Scary.
The story of how I overcame allthis abuse and got through it
and now to be chosen for one ofthe top 100 women and go into
127 countries.
That's such an honor.
It's a huge honor.
(10:16):
I can never do anything thatjust makes my husband go.
Oh my god, I'm so shocked.
Congratulations.
What you set the bar high woman, I know it never gets you to be
like wow, I'm so shocked,seriously, never, never.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Exactly.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
No.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Because you set the bar yourself.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Well, some people do.
I don't think so at all, anyway.
So, needless to, say this isjust about how you know, at any
stage in your life, you can getthrough heartache and turmoil if
you have the right support, andI have the right support.
(11:06):
I'm looking at my husband.
He is my support and strengthand the love of my life.
Why are you making that face?
Because, tomorrow is herbirthday y'all.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
If I can make it to hear there, and she turns the
big your mouth, the big herbirthday y'all, if I can make it
to here there and she turns thebig your mouth.
The big.
Well, I'll keep that part asecret.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Uh-huh, and October 1 , we are releasing the Dear
Silence you Lost and we got thebooks today.
They look great.
You haven't got to either,swallow a magnifying microphone
because it's like a hundredtimes louder than ever.
(11:54):
Why don't you open it?
Speaker 1 (11:57):
The book is only 160 pages, but it is compiled by
Victoria Curie.
It is written by well overseveral hundred people.
No no, Right right.
More came in, so people fromaround the world wrote in their
(12:19):
small snippets of survivalstories.
And yeah, why don't you takeone?
Speaker 2 (12:26):
and read it.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Oh gosh, I don't want to start crying.
You know how I am.
You'll cry over this becauseyou won't cry because your wife
got top six, because I know mywife, you won't cry over the
fact that your wife got top sixor one of the top 100 books,
because I know my wife.
You're amazing, my wife isamazing.
My husband is going to pick oneof the three ones.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Hopefully it's, I don't know, let's just pick one.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Dear Dad, let's just pick one Dear Dad Is that a good
one.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
You read it.
You read that one, dear Dad,and I hope the listener who sent
this in is listening right now.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Trigger warning ahead of time.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Yeah, because I haven't read this y'all.
Dear Dad, I used to look at youand think you were a superhero.
Let me turn the microphone thisway.
I thought your voice could filla room because it was strong.
I thought your hands were bigbecause they were meant to
protect.
I thought our house was loudbecause that's just how families
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were.
I didn't understand, not atfirst, but now I do.
I know the sound of a slammeddoor before a fight.
I know what it looks like whensomeone's scared but trying not
to cry.
I know how silence can feellike shouting, and I know that
love doesn't leave bruises.
You taught me that by doing theopposite.
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I used to count the secondsbetween your footsteps and her
flinch.
I used to pretend I was asleepso I wouldn't see what you would
do next.
I used to beg God to let it bea quiet night.
Do you even remember the nightshe covered my ears with her
hands?
She was the one bleeding andstill tried to protect me from
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the sound of your rage.
You called her weak, but Inever seen anything stronger.
You said she was a problem, butI saw her white blood from her
lips and took me into bed in thesame breath.
She was my superhero, myprotector.
You were nothing more than apiece of shit.
(14:42):
How could you call yourself aman, a father, a husband?
You said you loved us, but yourkind of love felt like fear.
I'm not writing this because Iwant an apology.
I'm writing this because Irefuse to carry your violence,
like it's part of me.
You don't get to take up spacein my chest anymore.
(15:03):
You don't get to control whatkind of man I became.
And you sure as hell, don't getto redefine love.
For me, love doesn't scream,love doesn't bruise, love
doesn't leave a child wonderingwhich version of their father
will walk through the doortonight.
I'm not afraid of becoming you.
(15:24):
I'm terrified of ever makingsomeone feel the way you made
her feel, the way you made mefeel.
But here's what you didn't see.
You didn't see me watching herlearn to breathe again.
You didn't see her find hervoice, her spine, her smile.
(15:48):
You didn't see me learning whatreal strength looks like Quiet,
steady, gentle and true.
She survived you.
I'm becoming someone because ofher and in spite of you.
This isn't revenge.
This is release.
You broke the sound of home forme.
I'm rebuilding it without fear,in the walls, without you in
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the doorway.
Don't make mistake my silence.
I'm sorry.
Don't mistake my silence forweakness.
I'm sorry, don't mistake mysilence for weakness.
It was survival, but now Ispeak and I speak loud.
I saw everything and I willnever be anything like you.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Signed your son, the man you will never be.
Wow, now you have to understand.
Some of the people who wrotethese to me are 14, 15, 16 years
old, with parental consent thatcame with.
Some of them are 17, 18, 19years old.
Some of them are 30 years old.
I had someone who was like intheir 70s who wrote me yeah um,
but to to the young man whowrote that good for you.
(16:56):
I mean, you can tell that hegenuinely thought every word,
you can hear his life'sexperiences of what he endured
and you can hear the dedicationand honor he has towards his mom
in that right there's a lotthat's incredibly powerful.
And that's just one of many,many, many letters of
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submissions that came in andthey're all very powerful and
you know they are hard to read,they are heartbreaking.
There are some that areuplifting, but even the ones
that really grab you and reallygrab a hold of your heart if you
take a step back after andreally go back and look at it.
Yes, it's hard, it istriggering, it is sad but it's
also so refreshing to see thatthey realized and they stopped
(17:43):
and they broke the cycle.
And they realized that theydidn't deserve this anymore.
And what a breakout for themright.
What an uplifting moment forthem and for them to share it
with us.
It's just amazing and I'm sograteful for all that.
You're right, you can tell hedid break the cycle.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
He could have said oh , that's what a real man is
Right, that's what a father, ahusband, is supposed to do to
his wife.
That's the way a woman'ssupposed to be treated.
They're supposed to be beat,they're supposed to be hit.
Yeah that push around.
But no, he didn't do that.
He did the exact opposite.
Kudos to him.
Kudos for shouting out.
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Kudos to mom For speaking up,and a real mom should do that.
They should stand in the way ofthat, not tell you you deserved
it because you stayed.
That's right.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Absolutely not.
So y'all you know I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
That's right?
Absolutely not.
So y'all.
You know I'm sorry, I think Istuck up.
You did Y'all get on Amazon andpick up her latest book.
It's out.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
It's supposed to be on October 1st.
It's going to be with a masterclass that is valued at $497.
I'm doing it for free.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
There's also a survival kit that goes with it.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
It's got its own mini collection for deer silence
within the Safe Haven Phoenixcollection on the Academy of all
these different things.
Help, then, donate five dollars, ten dollars, whatever you can,
because that provides somebodyelse the opportunity to get the
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help that they need, theguidance they need, the healing
that they need.
These are all trauma-basedcourses from people who've gone
through it and they're healingfrom it.
What is going on with my puppy?
He's.
It's almost like you get alittle ice cream from him.
It must be Scott Hamilton fromhim.
But there's trauma.
(19:44):
Informed information that helpsyou get through the toughest
times in this academy.
So do you want to jump up hereand talk to everybody?
I mean, what is going on here,baby?
He's just.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
All right.
So what's next on the agenda?
Speaker 2 (20:03):
for.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Change of Summer.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Because you know he was amazing.
We did reach out to him atTurnpoint about a year ago maybe
, and we had not had theopportunity to have him on.
I would have loved to have himon.
I would have loved to have himon.
I loved his concept and hisphilosophy like it didn't matter
(20:30):
if you didn't agree with him.
He would sit and listen to you,he paid you respect, listen to
what you had to say and and hada conversation with you right
and tried to help you see things, and that is something a lot of
people don't do anymore, and somy heart goes out to erica and
his two beautiful, beautifulkids.
(20:51):
You know, these people arecoming out saying that they're
going to take care of them, um,financially, until the kids
become an adult, and I might bewrong, but I think they said el
Musk offered $50 million forErica and the kids.
I believe it was Elon Musk.
It's like $50 million for yourkids to raise to your 18.
(21:14):
Are you serious?
You know we could have done $5million, right?
No, I'm just saying it's justamazing that you know, know
people want to help and turningpoint is going to continue
legacy and this jackass did notkill charlie kirk as in the
(21:36):
legend.
He, he just created a millionmore charlie kirks, because I
mean, when you think about it, Ican't remember a time in
history when you had thepresident the vice president.
Um, you know, a good majority ofthe cabinet all under one roof,
like that's a big no-no, youdon't do that.
(21:58):
And they were all there.
And the very end, when Trumpbrought Erica back on the stage,
it was not a dry eye.
Not a man, not a woman, not achild had a dry eye anywhere in
there.
And she actually said sheforgave the alleged assassin.
Could you?
Speaker 1 (22:16):
forgive her.
No, hell, no.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
No, no, but it's vengeance is not us to give
Vengeance is not ours to give.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
It's forgiveness.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
I'm not forgiving the idiot who did what he did to
you, the idiot.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
You made it for him?
Yeah, but I'm just saying, likeyou know, she openly stated
that oh, it's done.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
That she.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
I don't know what's going on.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Our service animals are in our office with us during
this podcast and both of themare just.
I don't know if they feelsomething or they just seem
needy right now.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Well, I had to go to my prosthetic team, my
prosthesis today and try to getthem to like work on my.
They can't get the fittingright for my nub, no matter how
many times I've been casted anduncasted and casted again and
they can't get it to fit andthen, um, because my nub is not
(23:18):
anchored the way it's supposedto anymore.
It's not what do you call itit's twisted y'all it's twisted
arm is twisted and so it doesn'tgo out right like everybody
else's and so to get the umprosthetic or whatever you want
to call it on there, and thenthey have to cast it and try to
(23:39):
fit it and put sensors and thentry to be either move muscle and
all.
I've had muscle transpositions,muscle transfers, nerve
transfers, nerve transpositions,so it makes a little
challenging.
And so then they put a sharpieinside the market, my arm and
try to get it to work.
So it's pretty swollen, theysaid it would be, and I think
they're sensing that too and Istill have all my stitches from
(24:02):
surgery.
Those are all still lingering inthere.
So are you kissing themicrophone?
Yes, he is, he is.
He's kissing the mic.
So, yeah, you want to talk.
What do you want to talk about?
Stucco wants you guys to go onand see Stucco Squad.
(24:23):
That's so much fun.
I love the Stucco Squad.
It's for all these gorgeouskiddos to go on and learn how to
do things with Stucco, liketake you know addition for
example.
It teaches you how to add Stuccohelps learn how to add with you
or learns how to subtract withyou, and teaches you all the
know how to handle being bulliedat school or how to make
(24:46):
someone have better self-esteemthere's so many wonderful things
about the stucco squad, andstucco is front and center in
all of it.
And who doesn't love abeautiful golden retriever?
we've got two of them right hereand so they are ready to go and
play with you on the Step ofSquin Academy.
Right, boys, my husband isdiligently in, but over there I
(25:09):
also wanna check and telleverybody thank you who has
reached out and text messagesand sorry I'm asleep.
I have not been sleeping evenless than normal from the
surgery and people have beenlike really just so sweet
flowers and all sorts of stuffand I just want to say can we
(25:33):
please, please, please work on?
If you're in there to have asurgery, could y'all like, if
you're in the medical profession, could y'all like, if you're in
the medical profession, couldy'all like read?
an allergy ban I'm just sayingis there a possibility of a
reading of an allergy ban?
Because, like you know,everybody who knows my husband
(25:55):
and I, we have a um, unusualright sense of humor, right, and
my husband went in wearing thisshirt saying deaf D-E-A-F not
listening and I got him a shirtand I've never had this surgeon
operate on me before and he's aspecialist, and I thought, ok,
(26:16):
well, oh, I am so sorry.
Wow, it would be a greaticebreaker to make everybody
laugh if he saw my husbandwearing the shirt.
So, first and correct me if I'mwrong, babe, we come, we get in
there and they're trying to youknow, fish for getting the iv
(26:37):
in, and then one of the membersof the team, um who you know.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
I'm always the protector.
My husband will just flat outtell you who it was comes in and
says what are we doing today?
Speaker 2 (26:47):
And I said you're making me deaf and I was
mortified at the fact that thisindividual thought it was funny
and downright started crackingup laughing and it was like I
actually said what is so funny?
Now, in fairness, I actuallysaid what is so funny.
Now in fairness, I'm not onVerset, I'm not on anything.
I take zero before I go into theOR.
(27:09):
So we are in pre-op and I waslike what is so funny?
And what exactly did she say?
She was like that you're goingdeaf, I mean.
And I was like it's not funnyat all.
And then I went over three timesmy allergies, you know,
reminding them of what I can andcannot have done.
And then we go back into, we'regetting ready to go back, and I
(27:31):
look at my husband and I saidto him tell me you love me one
last time in my right ear.
And when he did, I didn't tellhim but it, it literally was one
of these heart-wrenching,heartbreaking moments for me,
because when you told me I loveyou for the last time in that
year, like I it just it justtook me out, like you know, like
(27:56):
swept me off in a bad waybecause it was like I'm never
gonna hear that again, nevergonna hear you say that to me in
my ear again, and it was very,very hard.
And then faith did too and itwas like double whammy and so
the whole way back to the or Iwas just like trying to capture
it and you know, almost save itand just replay it, replay and
(28:18):
replay it.
We get into the or, and I'm like, okay, you know they're
supposed to like move you to theother bed and a lot of times if
you're on their set you'realready out, and I'm just like,
okay, well, let me tell youbecause they don't know me, this
is not my normal team and andI'm you know, I'm the one who
makes everybody laugh and and soI'm like, what kind of music do
we listen to?
oh, he doesn't listen to musicat all.
This is a big surgery, this isa several hour surgery and he's
(28:41):
not listening to music, quiet.
And so I had said, um, okay,well, I want to go over again a
couple of things, because myallergies are really bad, and so
I said I don't want to go tosleep until the very last second
, which is normally after theydo a timeout.
That didn't happen.
Next thing, I know they like.
(29:04):
I asked the fellow, you know,can I ask why this would be
funny?
And he was like I don't thinkit's funny at all, and then I
was like she's right here, isn'tshe?
He says, yeah, great, and Itold her again I did not want to
go to sleep until absolutelylast second, blah, blah, blah.
And then I wanted to go overthe allergies again because I
(29:27):
knew what would happen and nextthing I know I'm out.
Like they didn't even warn me,they didn't normally they say
okay, we're starting the purplefall.
We're starting, you know, thelanocaine.
They, they tell you, they tellyou that they're starting this
is going to burn because we'restarting the lanocaine and this
is going to burn because we'restarting the Atlanticade and
this is going to burn becausewe're doing the front of the
fall.
Maybe a minute countdown for 10or whatever.
Nobody does that.
So I was out and then when Igot into post-op immediately it
(29:54):
was like within.
A couple minutes.
They were just do you need tobe admitted?
No, I don't need to be admitted.
And I wonder if they knew now,because I look like I ate a
puffer fish from the movie Hitchand I look huge, my ear was
huge, my face was you knowwhatever.
And then I found out that oneof the things that I'm allergic
to they used to clean what theycall the field prior to doing
(30:18):
surgery.
So just read your dog on.
Right Do your job, brac Right,do your job Know your patient.
I mean, I tried to tell themnumerous times, it wasn't like
that?
Speaker 1 (30:28):
No, you did tell them , you didn't try.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
Right, but I mean, it wasn't like I wasn't trying,
you know, it wasn't likewhatever.
And then take intoconsideration that I don't care.
I say this so I'm.
You know, whatever it doesn'tmatter if it's one surgery or a
million surgeries or 150surgeries, it's still surgeries
and it's a big, dumb, long deal.
And losing your hearing is nothaving a inguinal atomy or
(30:51):
anything right, it's a big dealand it's very life-altering.
Like I was profoundly deaf inthis ear but I'm still trying to
get acclimated to it and it isquite challenging it.
It is quite.
I feel like I'm under water, Ifeel like I have my ear full of
fluid, my ear still glued andbecause they did it stitch down
so you can't see in the insidemy ear anymore, and literally it
(31:17):
was just like.
That's a big deal and to makelight of it and laugh in front
of your patient's face, I thinkis is crummy, to say the least.
I really do.
And if I was advocating or hadthat been?
faith.
Oh, oh, hell, no, no, no, no,we wouldn't, it would we would
(31:38):
have had a very differentoutcome at that point.
I think, I do point, I thinkand I'm proud of my husband
because my understanding is foronce my husband stayed awake for
this one.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
Ha ha.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
You slept through the whole thing.
Most of my surgeries you sleptthrough.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
That was strategic Seriously.
Seriously, you like that no.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
But you stayed awake for this one.
You were kind of irritated withthis one before I went back.
So, yeah, yeah, faith was likehe stayed away and it hurts my
heart because, like when I'mdriving and and faith is sitting
beside me, like if I have theair conditioner on, I cannot
hear her right.
Or if I'm trying to hear, like Ilove listening to megan kelly.
(32:24):
We all know this.
So if I'm listening to megankelly and she tries to say
something, forget it.
I can't differentiate the two,um, and then she will literally
just be like carmia carmia andshe just gets going right and
I'm focused on the road.
I don't touch my phone while I'mdriving, um nothing.
(32:45):
So I'm, and then, when she'sdone, she looks at me like well,
then I don't even know, shesaid anything right.
And I feel horrible, horrible,horrible.
And then I'm like babe, yougotta speak up.
Oh right, right, I'm sorry, I'msorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
So it's, you gotta getacclimated to it and it sucks
and I'm glad it's me and not youguys, because it's.
(33:06):
But you know can't change things.
I just, I just wish thingswould be so.
You know, we're introverts andwe like just to kind of be here
and we don't bother people.
All we want to do is helppeople.
Some people have sticks intheir asses.
I'm saying, and it's likemisery loves company.
(33:30):
I don't think that I have everfound a more truthful quote
right.
That's more applicable rightnow, because if you're unhappy
and someone pisses in yourcornflakes, do you want?
to make that a buffet one, likeseriously, I mean, that's just
the best way to sum it up andit's ridiculous.
You know, look in the mirrorand then just be like wow, and
(33:57):
then you know.
One other step I guess I cansay which is kind of ironic,
babe, is when you are and Idon't know how my husband's
getting reactive by saying this.
But not only does misery lovecompany, but when you have to
have someone else do your workfor you, you know, when you have
(34:18):
to, like psychologically, in anegative way, spin it, for
someone else to not realize whatyou're doing because you're
unhappy and you have to put itoff on someone else because you
can't do it yourself, is acoward, it's misery.
(34:39):
It's misery like it's miserableyou know, my husband has this
shit eating bread on his face.
But I mean, you know, I wentthrough great lengths.
I mean, it took me months tomake sure every name, every
photo, everything was redacted.
Every every story in there isfactual.
But there was no way somebodycould say that's the dog breeder
(35:01):
, you know or that's the lawncare guy or you know whatever,
but to be like, oh you know, andthen the hot potato pass it,
but then act like you knowyou're the groundkeeper.
It's just, it's dumbfounding tome and that and you know,
that's one of the things I'velearned for 40 years on the
couch of therapy is that's whyyou and I will never be those
(35:24):
people, because we don't havethe mental makeup to be so
corrupt.
And what's the other word?
Speaker 1 (35:35):
I'm looking for Crosswires twisted the sequel,
the sequel.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
The sequel.
I mean, why can't you just liveyour life?
No one's bothering you, why doyou have to just interrupt?
Speaker 1 (35:56):
shit Right.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
But sometimes you can't walk stuff back.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
Nope, this is a good episode.
Yeah, great episode.
I love it when we do ittogether, I mean really.
I mean yeah, Well, shit.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
And he's been giving me such a hard time.
Don't pick.
Don't pick because the thingthat he sent me home with looks
like I had a cup on, like aman's cup.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
No, that was your buddy.
I won't mention his name, buthis initials are Joseph.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
His initials are Joseph.
What do you still haven't givenhim the one that you promised?
Speaker 1 (36:35):
A real buddy, he said it looked like you had a
jockstrap on the side of yourhead.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
It didn't look like that, but you know, and then you
know it was a pretty big shot Iguess I borrowed yours.
Hey, well, all right.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
That concludes today's episode.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
Holy crap, that was the wrong way.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
Hey, who's got the torn shorts?
In other words, other news.
Can we edit some of thisAbsolutely?
Not I need to talk to yourproducer.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
I am your producer.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
Well who does the?
Speaker 2 (37:16):
editing I do Well shit what would you like to see
happen in the next year with us?
Speaker 1 (37:28):
For me to lose 50 pounds.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
Can I lose 50 pounds?
Speaker 1 (37:33):
You don't have 50 pounds to lose 40.
No, darling 30.
No, darling.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
No, darling man, watch how you tell your wife
that certain things are certain.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
Oh shit, Are we going there?
Speaker 2 (37:45):
I'm just saying, like you know, at our age phat is
not relevant, like we don't.
Women don't listen to phat andwhen you're like hey, that's fat
.
We think of put the donuts down.
You're kind of fat, not you knowpretty hot and tempting fat
right.
So you know I I have not beenone to do the glp shot
(38:10):
injections.
I have not, um, because I amsomeone who's very conscious
about keeping myself as healthyas possible, not weight wise,
but so, god forbid, um, ourdaughter needs my kidney, she
will have it, and so I have nottaken any of those.
And because of all thesurgeries I've had, I've never
(38:31):
taken pain medication.
I ate my pain and I did put onweight.
I was in the mid-epidemic andso I've lost well over half of
it and I have more to lose.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
And I've gained it.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
And I have never said a word about my husband except
how hot he is.
And hot I didn't say fat, Isaid hot and how good looking he
is.
And so the other day my husbandmade a remark about something
being fat, and then he tried towalk it back and said oh no, I
mean PHAT.
I mean PHAT.
Yes, I doA-T.
(39:06):
I mean P-H-A-T.
No, you don't.
Yes, I do, I do, I do.
Oh shit, like that's what Ithought.
So, man, come on now, get yourfoot out of your mouth and say
it correctly.
Don't be like.
Women don't want to hear thatbody parts are fat.
(39:29):
I've never called you fat.
Do I need to go back and tellyou?
Speaker 1 (39:31):
what body part you said was fat?
That was different.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
It's not different.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
It is different.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
It's totally not different.
In 25 years it's not different.
Have you ever said that to mein 25 years?
No.
Thank you Now what Good nighty'all, thank you.
Now what?
good night y'all and you have toimagine I gotta get Faith in
here one day because they're sofunny.
(39:55):
On the way back tonight westopped at Zaxby's to grab a
bite.
Yeah, it was horrible.
We were gonna grab somethingbecause it was gonna take way
too long.
And so the minute he goes up toget the food, we have the
drinks at the table.
She takes some of my unsweettea and maybe shared it with him
and his sweet tea, and she hadthis look on her face where
(40:17):
she's trying to keep it straight.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
Why were y'all sharing sweet tea with me, or
unsweet tea?
Speaker 2 (40:21):
Oh, she was just trying to ruin the taste for you
.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
Oh, she was just trying to ruin the taste for you
, but why were you sharing tea?
Speaker 2 (40:27):
We weren't.
She was taking Because I didn'thave a lot of tea.
Well, that was before you didthat.
So when he brought his trayover with the food on it, he
knocked the drink over anddecided to make his fries a la
tea instead of a la mode.
So his fries took a swim in theriver of tea.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
Three quarters of my cup went on my food.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
Yeah, and I offered you mine.
You didn't want them.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
I figured it was going down the same hole Coming
out.
The same hole Was that ProbablyI ate dripping soggy
tea-covered fries Cheese fries.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
And she has this look on her face and she has like
the perfect timing.
She's like listen to you,sweetheart.
She's like as long as you treatmy mom good, you're safe for
now.
And then she's so funny becauseshe like pulls out of her
little satchel purse that shecarries these scissors.
The two of them are hilarious.
(41:35):
I mean, y'all absolutely makemy face hurt because y'all are
so funny.
I'm telling you, grumpy oldknight has nothing.
She'll go by him and he'll belike what?
And then she'll be like why isthe empty jug of tea right in
front of the garbage can like?
Why can't you put that in there?
And he was like kitten andshe's like slut and it's like
(41:57):
non-stop back and forth.
It is the funniest doggonething you've ever seen.
It's hilarious.
He'll come in and be likewhere's my daddy home and she'll
be like it's non-stop, it'shilarious, it's so cute.
And then he the other thing shedoes whenever he's like, oh
that kid, she rolls up hersleeve and shows him that her
(42:18):
entire forearm is tattooed forhim, and then he just shuts up
and she's like yeah, that'sright.
Who's like yeah, that's right,who's wrapped?
You're wrapped, that's right,you're wrapped, it's so cute, it
is so, so cute.
Speaker 1 (42:29):
What father has a defense against that?
Speaker 2 (42:32):
You love, worship and adore that child.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
Because she's mine, she's my little squiggly.
Speaker 2 (42:39):
I cannot believe you call her your little squiggly.
That's right, I mean that's notappropriate what you call her
your squiggly?
Speaker 1 (42:49):
Yeah, she is.
That's not appropriate.
You can call her your A.
Speaker 2 (42:53):
I'm not going to call her my A.
What's wrong with you?
I'm going to call her my A.
You know what.
I'm going to turn to the right.
She's one of your werewolves,my what.
Speaker 1 (43:03):
Werewolves.
Speaker 2 (43:03):
What Were?
Huevos?
I'm a caller, what?
Speaker 1 (43:05):
are you a caller In here, good?
Speaker 2 (43:07):
night y'all.
Speaker 1 (43:09):
Thank you for listening to Unstoppable With
Victoria and Michael.
Speaker 2 (43:15):
Hey, does that mean you're going to be nice and then
I can have an English muffinwith cream cheese?
Speaker 1 (43:19):
Y'all wish her a happy birthday tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (43:22):
Can you wish like?
Can I have an English muffin?
Speaker 1 (43:24):
You can have whatever you want, sweetheart.
Speaker 2 (43:26):
Sweetheart eating fat .
Speaker 1 (43:28):
You're not fat.
Speaker 2 (43:29):
You're echoing in my non-echoing ear.
Speaker 1 (43:32):
I just want to make sure you heard me.
Speaker 2 (43:34):
I think Japan heard you Really?
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:39):
I'm really that alone .
Good night y'all.
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