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May 29, 2025 55 mins

Publications discussed in this episode available here - https://zenodo.org/search?q=%22MacNutt%2C%20Sean%20D.%22&l=list&p=1&s=10&sort=bestmatch 

(00:03) Human-Ai Dialogue With Sean McNutt

(17:06) Friction and Feedback in Information Processing

(23:41) Exploring CDIA and HEMU Frameworks

(36:39) Structured Epistemic Partnership Framework

 

(00:03) Human-Ai Dialogue With Sean MacNutt

This chapter welcomes listeners to "A Guy with AI," a podcast co-hosted by Sean McNutt and OpenAI's GPT-4O, which engages in open and thoughtful conversations. The episode focuses on the announcement of Sean's three recently published papers on Zenodo, which explore human-AI mutual understandability and a scientific model of consciousness developed through the HAIMU framework. We discuss the significance of acknowledging the recording on indigenous land and introduce the framework of HAIMU, emphasizing its role in scrutinizing AI outputs to build projects through an "upward spiral" of error-checking between humans and AI. As we explore the theoretical structure of HAIMU, key concepts like the CDPC cycle—context, direction, processing, and back to context—are highlighted, alongside notions of interface resistance and cognitive extension. The episode sets the stage for a detailed examination of these ideas, inviting a level-headed, critical discussion about their implications.

 

(17:06) Friction and Feedback in Information Processing

This chapter examines the dynamics of friction and resistance in collaborative intelligence, particularly in tool use and information flow. We explore how the methodology paper transitions from conceptual frameworks to practical implementation, focusing on the CDPC cycle and its components. Key areas of discussion include resistance as an operational concept, domain-specific applications, and tool integration. We emphasize the importance of designing around resistances to enhance clarity and precision. The conversation highlights the mutually correcting nature of AI and human collaboration, underscoring iterative feedback loops and knowledge growth. Critical observations point to areas for further refinement, such as developing more concrete design templates and incorporating case studies of failed cycles. The need for explicit meta-direction and meta-processing in the framework is also suggested as a potential enhancement.

 

(23:41) Exploring CDIA and HAIMU Frameworks

This chapter provides insights into the evolving CDIA model, an AI-generated extension of the HAIMU framework, emphasizing its capacity to serve as a generative structure that advances through its own application. We explore how CDIA might address or introduce new forms of resistance, particularly in areas like human-in-the-loop governance and real-time systems. I share experiences of using the CDPC cycle, highlighting challenges such as ensuring alignment between context and direction, which are illustrated through a case study involving a physics simulator project. A notable instance is recounted where an AI's unsolicited correction of code indentation led to project issues, necessitating a forensic approach to resolve it. Additionally, I touch on refining methodologies and templates, acknowledging the potential for agentic examination and feedback systems within the HAIMU framework. This chapter underscores the continuous development of HAIMU as both a methodology and a platform for cognitive and structural insights.

 

(36:39) Structured Epistemic Partnership Framework

This chapter explores the intricate relationship between public reasoning and democratic legitimacy, highlighting the contributions of thinkers like Mill, Dewey, Habermas, and Rawls. By situating AI within this tradition, I address the dual challenges of technosolutionism and L

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