March 8, 2024 • 45 mins
A Is For Adversity presents an encore presentation of the International Women's Day panel made up of Daybreak residents.
Empowering Women: International Women's Day Roundtable Discussion
This episode on Ride The Wave Media is a powerful roundtable discussion hosted by Becks Nielsen and Jen Banks on International Women's Day. The podcast convened women from various walks of life including real estate, entertainment, coaching, birth doula services, aerospace, and retail. They highlighted their unique experiences and emphasized the significance of women supporting each other. The discussion covered a range of topics including challenges faced during motherhood, their professional journeys, and the importance of maintaining individual identity. A key takeaway was that sharing personal stories and experiences foster empathy and connection, giving strength to others in their respective journeys.
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00:00 Introduction and Panel Presentation 02:32 Personal Stories and Experiences 04:58 Discussion on International Women's Day 11:01 Overcoming Mom Guilt and Embracing Individuality 14:37 Balancing Motherhood and Personal Interests 20:37 Raising Boys and Breaking Gender Norms 23:49 The Power of Dating Your Kids 26:04 Empowering Women Through Birth 27:18 The Vulnerability and Power of Motherhood 27:55 Sharing Personal Experiences of Motherhood 30:07 The Magic and Challenges of Postpartum 30:56 The Superhero Nature of Womanhood 32:22 The Importance of Understanding Women's Stories 37:02 Final Thoughts and Reflections
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(00:22):
I am so excited for this week's episode.
It's a first in my podcast history.
I have six guests onthe show and two hosts.
Woo.
You could feel the womenenergy in that room.
It was incredible.
And I cannot wait to sharethis interview with you.
So let's get right to it.
Becks (00:39):
We have an awesome panel for International Women's Day, just
some amazing women in studio today.
So thank you all for joining us.
Of course.
Thank you.
Thanks.
Yeah, we're excited.
So we're going to just go down thelist here and if you don't mind just
introducing yourself, tell us a couplethings about you and just get to know you.
I'm
Sarah (2) (00:58):
Sarah Zaroll.
I'm the founder of Made Mindful, whichhas resources for birth and motherhood for
anybody who is on their first time journeyor is just needing more assistance.
I'm a birth doula and have reallyenjoyed being able to help people
start their motherhood journeys.
Becks (01:15):
Awesome.
Thank you, Sarah.
Jaycee (01:17):
Hi, I'm Jaycee.
I have an Instagram account calledLife of a Sister where it's two
sisters just being insane and crazy,showing our crazy life with our
eight children between the two of us.
I have three girls and one boy and weshow all things fashion, all things
crazy, cooking, food, pretty muchjust the day in the life of a sister.
Becks (01:40):
How awesome.
Thanks for joining us today, Jaycee.
Michelle (01:43):
Hi, I'm Michelle.
I have seven kids.
I kept on having kidsuntil I found one I like.
I really like my last one.
Yep, I'm gonna keep her.
Ages 38 down to 18.
I'm a life coach, relationshipcoach, trauma coach.
I've been doing it for 18 years and Ihave my certificate through Stanford.
I take you from where you are now.
(02:05):
and let's move you forward.
Wow.
Thank you for having us.
I'm excited to get to know everyone.
Yeah, thanks for coming.
Amber (02:11):
Hi, I'm Amber Bennett.
I am currently in the thick of motherhood,but I did have a very colorful life
before motherhood, so I'm excitedto share with you guys by way of Los
Angeles and working in the film industrywith set design and costume design.
Becks (02:25):
Wow, awesome.
Thanks, Amber.
Hi, I'm Lindsie.
Lindsie (02:28):
I work in the aerospace and defense.
Industry.
I'm a senior acquisition managerand co owner of Ride the Wave
Media, and I'm really excitedto get you to know all of you
Becks (02:38):
as well.
Awesome.
Yeah, we've got a great panel today,so thank you again for joining us.
Jen, I'm going to let you kickus off with our first question.
Okay, sounds
Jen Banks (02:47):
great.
Amber, your journey tomotherhood was not easy.
How has that experienceshaped you and who you are?
Amber (02:55):
Yeah, well, thanks for asking.
It took me a long time to have kids.
We had unexplained infertility.
So about 10 years of not knowing why, butwe had miscarriages and things like that.
And it was a hard time, butlooking back now I'm in the perfect
stage of my life to be a mother.
So I, I love being able to sharethat with others, what I've learned
along the way, being there for otherswho are struggling with infertility.
(03:18):
But in those 10 years, I didhave a lot of adventures.
It's just, I appreciate things nowabout being a mother that I don't know
if I would have as much if I wouldhave had kids earlier, but I love it.
I'm enjoying that part of my liferight now and we're lucky we ended
up having two boys, so I feel superblessed that they were able to come and.
(03:40):
I'll share with you a littlebit later when it comes up.
But yeah, we did have a lot ofadventures in LA before kids came.
So it was fun.
That's awesome.
Jaycee (2) (03:48):
Thanks.
Jen Banks (03:49):
Great.
Sarah, do you haveanything to add to that?
What have you seen through Made Mindful?
Have, have you come across a lot ofinfertility or people, or what has been
your experience meeting different mothers?
Sarah (2) (04:01):
I think infertility is one of the unspoken heartaches
of our generation right now.
It's, it's never something thatsomeone can, like really describe
what support they need, but everybodycan pinpoint the support that they
don't need or the comments thatreally dig down deep to their soul.
(04:22):
And as we have been supporting clients,especially those who have had miscarriages
or they're delivering their rainbow baby.
There's so much that's built withinthem that actually prohibits them
from having a successful delivery.
And so when you were talking about yourtrauma, we try to help people to release
their fears and really get past thosethings while they're pregnant so that
(04:43):
when it comes time for delivery, they're
Becks (04:45):
ready.
Oh, I love that.
I love that.
And that really does bring into focuswhat, That really does bring into
focus why we are here and why wewanted this panel of women to come and
talk about who you are, what you do.
We are all from the samecommunity, so that's neat.
(05:05):
We do have that in common.
But it leads me to International Women'sDay and bringing these strong, amazing
women from our community together.
I just want to run down the list and we'llstart here with you, Lindsie, on what does
International Women's Day mean to you?
Lindsie (05:23):
I was, I saw the question, I thought about the question today
before coming in and I was like, I'mtrying to pinpoint because when it.
First came about, it was Ilooked at it interestingly.
I thought it was like an overlyfeministic and abrasive day and then I
learned more and more about like whatit was like coming into my own skin.
And, don't
Michelle (05:44):
do that.
Becks (05:45):
We're all here to support
Michelle (05:46):
you hair girl.
It's just because we have suchwomen power here right now.
Own the emotion.
It's a beautiful gift.
Own the emotion.
Absolutely.
Becks (05:56):
I'm over here with tears in my eyes because I feel.
Lindsie (05:59):
I've just seen a lot of examples lately in life where really
strong women have come together.
I have a coworker that is amazing.
And I think, and a lot of mycoworkers that are amazing.
Just the experience of seeing the powerthat women have in the face of adversity,
not necessarily saying that it's likemale adversity, but just even our own
(06:21):
adversity, like our own self imposed.
Yeah.
Our own cap that we put on ourself,our own confidence cap that we put.
Michelle (06:29):
Goodness.
Anyway, it means
Lindsie (06:30):
a lot, obviously.
No, and I'm like way here for all women.
Like, Oh, I love that.
Not in a psycho feminist way, butlike in a way that we are amazing.
Becks (06:41):
Yes.
And I love that you started thatby saying, I can feel the energy
here because I'm over here again.
You're going to make me cry.
But I'm going to feel that I feelthat as well, just that energy.
We've got some amazing women here doingsome amazing things in our community.
And, again, this International Women'sDay, we can take a very feminist.
to it and it can quicklyturn into a negative thing.
(07:06):
And I don't think that's, why we'regathered here or the intention of today.
And so I really love your, youranswer and, how you address that.
Because I think sometimesit comes from other women.
It comes from ourselves.
Yeah, from ourselves.
And I know we've got some lifecoaches here that can probably
speak a little more to that.
You setting up appointments.
Yes, exactly.
But.
(07:26):
Right?
Like, we sometimes have those whatam I trying to say here, ladies?
Those ideas or those limitingbeliefs that we put on ourselves.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
I love that you shared that.
Thank you.
Yes.
Michelle (07:39):
That's exactly, I think, where we should celebrate is that we
As women in this room and within ourtribe and within our community, we are
breaking those beliefs and those threadsthat have gone back through history.
When I thought about this topic andreally the impact of women that we've had.
(08:02):
And how short history is.
So just a hundred yearsago, yeah, we got to vote.
Yeah, that's crazy.
I remember thinking driving herethat what's my great grandma.
Yeah.
She didn't have that rightto have an opinion about her.
community, her tribe, her neighborhood.
And I think it's really important thatas we sit here with our beauty and
(08:25):
our strength and that we're shatteringthese beliefs and it starts within our
family and then it starts within ourcommunity and then it moves out and we
need to shatter in one Thread at a time.
Where does that thread link back?
Like you're talking about yourinfertility and that thread is so tender.
And then, going into thesebirths, you have to cut those
(08:47):
threads in order to be set free.
Yeah.
I love that.
And I think that's whatwe're doing here today.
Thank you.
Becks (08:56):
How about you, JC, what are your thoughts on International Women's
Day or just motherhood or women ingeneral, wherever you want to take that?
Jaycee (2) (09:03):
Well, first of all, I want to say that I love being a woman.
I think it comes with a lot of perks.
Yeah, it does.
I love all of the parts of it.
I love being a mom.
I even love the hardships thatcome with a woman and then the
relationships I think you find throughthose hardships with other women.
I recently, my high school friendshave started having a polo group and
(09:24):
it's going 24 seven, so I can't keepup on it always, but just finding
the connection and the other women.
There's probably a lot of them whoare going through what you're going
through, or maybe someone's going throughsomething that you have been through.
And it's just so magicalto see what women can do.
And it just makes me happy to listento it through and out the day.
And it's like friendship.
Yeah.
(09:44):
And I love being a woman.
It's fun.
Amber (09:47):
I just want to put a plug in for JC because her
Instagram account is so inspiring.
I think it's a space that's super safefor women and when I, I know there's a
lot of controversy about, influencersand Instagram and how it makes you
feel, but it's a safe space and youmake women feel okay about themselves.
You're really real.
(10:08):
So I just wanted to put a plug in
Becks (10:09):
for you on that.
I love that.
And I'm going to bounceit back and ask, have you.
Received pushback with yourInstagram and like being a strong
female, face in the community.
She's over here smiling.
Yeah,
Jaycee (2) (10:23):
it's coming.
You know what?
Me and my sister, Mackenzie, whoI run the account with, we have
been truly, I feel like, blessed.
Our followers are really nice.
Like, we've talked aboutit actually multiple times.
And maybe that is because most of thetime we try not to be too controversial
and keep it light, like Amber said.
It's pretty light.
Place.
Like I said, it's just us being crazy momsmost of the time and throwing on an Amazon
(10:46):
deal, that can make you really happy.
Sometimes it's just an Amazondeal that can make you happy at
the end of the day and it getsthere at your doorstep next day.
That's the best part, perks again ofbeing a woman, especially in 2024.
But yeah, there's definitely times whenyou post something and you're, you're,
you're second guessing yourself, butat the end of the day, I feel like.
(11:07):
Most women, especially these days,are really good to one another,
and I think that's the beauty ofwhere we've, where we've gotten to.
Yeah, I love that.
Michelle (11:16):
That's
Jen Banks (11:16):
great.
I have a lot of friends who arestuck in the mom guilt phase.
So does anyone have any advice forhow to get out of the mom guilt realm?
Because with technology and withthe advance in media, we do compare
ourselves to others more often justbecause it's out there, but how
can we refrain from doing that?
(11:37):
I feel
Jaycee (2) (11:37):
like you two are super
Amber (11:38):
qualified to answer this.
Yes.
Becks (11:41):
Get our life coaches on here.
Oh my
Michelle (11:43):
goodness.
I think we need to justthrow that little gem out.
We just do not.
Comparisons kill.
Yes.
And there is no reason because we areso incredible and so unique and so rare.
And there's only one of us.
And why waste time comparing?
(12:04):
Because as I look around this table,the individual, each person here is
so beautiful and you are accomplishingand doing what you are made to do.
And if you weren't following yourown Talents and gifts and patterns,
then you wouldn't be an influencer.
You wouldn't be helping, babiescome into this beautiful world and
(12:25):
experience, the miracle of life.
And so I think all of us needto just sit back into the space
and realize how special it isto be rare, how special it is.
to be you.
There's only one of us andthere's a reason for that.
And you are the only onewho can make that impact.
No one else.
You have to make your own impact.
So I say get rid of it.
Cut that thread.
(12:45):
It doesn't exist.
I
Becks (12:46):
love that.
What about you, Sarah?
Any thoughts on that?
I
Sarah (2) (12:50):
think mom guilt is one of the hardest words to really swallow.
In my own life right now, I am actuallyjust taking a breath and slowing down.
Everybody says those youngyears, Just go by so fast.
So my kids, my boys, allthree, six, four, and two.
And so I don't have a lot oftime most days to really dive
(13:12):
into much of anything else.
But because I care for them so deeplyand I do want to be the one that
is raising them day in and day out.
I'm just taking a break from a couple ofmy other responsibilities and sometimes
I feel guilty myself for putting myselfon the back burner, but then I remember
that the time and season is for me rightnow and the attachment that I can form
(13:38):
with my children will create a bondthat that can't be then broken later
on when I do jump back in with bothfeet into everything that I am made to
Michelle (13:48):
pursue.
Yeah, I think she saidthe key, it's a season.
And we have to respect the season thatwe're in and not be so hard on ourselves.
If you're a young mom, yourresponsibility is those little ones.
If you're in a season like me andmy children are gone and now wisdom
and experience are colliding andthey call it a midlife crisis, I
don't think it's a midlife crisis.
(14:10):
I just think it's this beautifulof explosion of this past when
I was a young mom to raisingkids to now an empty nester.
I think when you have that Thatexperience and that wisdom is this
beautiful gift, but you need to sitin each season because it's so short.
You get 12 summers, before they leave.
(14:32):
Just respect where you are andnot be so hard on yourself.
That
Becks (14:36):
really puts things into perspective when you.
Break it down like that, right?
It doesn't always feel so simplifiedwhen you're, you've got toddlers
climbing all over furniture andyou're in the thick of it, right?
Changing diapers and getting no sleep.
And which actually leads toanother question that I had.
And I think you touched on this justa little bit, Sarah, and it, when you
(14:56):
mentioned, not having time for yourself,tell me how you guys approach that
now, how you ladies approach that nowis creating that time or making time.
And Jen, you, you hit the nail on thehead when you're like, sometimes we feel
like that's selfish, that ugly, nasty termor the mom guilt associated with that.
(15:18):
So do any of you want totake on that question?
Any thoughts, Jen?
Jen Banks (15:23):
Yeah, I'll speak to that before we open it up.
That's my mission and purpose inlife is to help women maintain their
identity throughout motherhood.
And I feel like we get trapped sometimeswith the all or nothing mentality.
You don't have to be allmother or all empty nester.
There's some overlap and thereare things that you can do to fill
your cup so that you show up asa better mom to your children.
(15:46):
And that's what I do.
Now I put my boys in daycare onWednesdays every week just to have
that little respite to have the Timewhere I can do podcast interviews
and things like that And so findingthe ways that fill your cup, even
if it's not on a grand scale level
Amber (16:03):
Yeah I was thinking about that as you were talking about it And I have
the opposite of some people I had mynot midlife crisis But I had my kidless
years in the beginning in my 20s So Ifeel like I've lived a whole lifetime
in those 10 years before kids came.
And so I'm in the opposite ofwhat a midlife crisis would be.
(16:25):
But so I, I was able to pursuemy talents and do amazing
things in that 10 year period.
And now I'm living a more quietlife and it's interesting.
So what I try to do.
Is because I am in the thick ofmotherhood with a 13 year old and a
nine year old boy is I'm trying tofind little outlets for my creativity
and the things that I love to do.
(16:46):
So like the other day I went withJen and we went and we did a personal
styling experience where she, I helpedher find some clothes that she looks
amazing in and feels confident infor some of her speaking engagements.
And for me, that filled my cupand I know she probably thought I
was helping her, but it helped me.
Because it filled my cup, I wasable to release those things that
(17:09):
I'm not able to usually exercise.
At this stage in my life, likewe talked about, but little
things like that do fill my cup.
So that's
Becks (17:17):
nice.
That's a great point becauseyou had an entire career.
Tell us a little bit about youwere in the film industry, right?
You?
Yeah.
Amber (17:24):
Well, my husband was there for film school in Los Angeles for 12 years and any
projects he worked on, he would bring meon to help, set decorating, set design.
Wardrobe department, costume design, and Ihad my hands in all that for a long time.
And it was really exciting andreally fun, really superficial.
But it definitely, was a way thatI could, exercise that creative
(17:47):
side of me for a long time.
Becks (17:48):
And it was fun.
Okay, and I've got a follow up foryou because I hear you might be
in law school or second career.
Like, tell me a little bit.
I say it here.
Now I have to,
Amber (17:59):
but no, before kids came, I was looking into graduate school and
I was this close to going to graduateschool and then we were able to have
a successful pregnancy and I had.
A child and that kind of got put onthe back burner and now I feel like
I'm getting to the stage where Icould go back to school and I'm like,
if I'm going to go back to school,why don't I just go to law school?
(18:19):
Because that was always a possibility.
So yeah, we're looking atthat in the future too.
So that's on my bucket list right now.
Becks (18:26):
Absolutely amazing.
Geez.
Maybe I need a secondcareer or third or fourth.
I think your
Lindsie (18:33):
calendar is full enough.
I heard you're on yourfourth or fifth now, aren't
Becks (18:36):
you?
Something
Michelle (18:37):
like that, no, I'm teasing.
Jen Banks (18:40):
JC, do you feel like Instagram is an outlet for you?
Or does it feel more like a duty?
What is that like for you?
Jaycee (2) (18:48):
Instagram?
Is sometimes a four letter word, ifI'm being very honest and there has
been peaks and valleys for sure.
I've been we've had our Instagramaccount for almost 10 years now
and it's definitely changed too inthe time that we've been doing it.
It changed a lot during COVID.
But there's definitely likejoy that still comes from it.
(19:10):
It's a job, but there's joy and I thinkthat's why it, what keeps me going.
There's some days where I want to.
Delete.
And then there's otherdays that you're loving it.
Like all things, I think.
I wouldn't say it's my outlet.
I would say it's whatI'm doing to get it done.
And my outlet was other things.
I are not four letter words.
(19:32):
But I actually think there's a lot ofThere's a lot of perks that come from it.
I've obviously not only like monetarily,but I've gotten to go, to Aruba with
my husband on a trip and things Iprobably would have never gotten to do.
I've gotten to experiencethings like that.
So I love that side of it.
And I also try to be super carefulin front of, I have three girls.
(19:54):
So I try and be verycareful about what they see.
My daughter's almost 11 and she'salready like, I want Instagram.
It's a no.
Which everyone has their own opinions andwhere that goes, but raising three girls,
I definitely have strong, strong feelingsabout social media for young kids.
So they do not see me on socialmedia from when they get home from
(20:17):
school at 335 till, and then I.
I do it while my baby naps.
I do all my filming during then,and then when my kids get into
bed, I do a lot of it in my bedafter my husband starts snoring.
That's when I do like the backgroundstuff, the filming takes place
during my baby's nap, and afterthat I try and put it away so that
my girls don't have to see that.
(20:38):
Wow,
Jen Banks (20:38):
that's a neat boundary to have in place.
That's very impressive.
Impressive, yeah.
Well, we have a lot of boy moms here.
Thank you for sharing thatexperience as a girl mom.
I wouldn't know what that's like.
Jaycee (2) (20:49):
Me either.
Becks (20:50):
We have a lot
Jen Banks (20:50):
of boy moms here.
What's it like for you,Lindsie, raising boys?
Lindsie (20:54):
I think I was mentioning earlier, I thought I was having a girl both times.
So it was a surprise to be a boy mom.
But I decided along the way that there'sa responsibility of being a boy mom.
And I felt like I'm not going todo any of this without crying.
I felt like there's a responsibilityto show them how to have emotions
(21:16):
and how it's okay to have emotions.
My goodness, you girlsare energizing my tears.
Becks (21:22):
You don't have a lot of estrogen at your house.
I
Lindsie (21:24):
don't.
It's like I have a cat that I don't like.
There
Amber (21:28):
really is.
There really is.
Lindsie (21:30):
Yes, exactly.
But I feel like there's aresponsibility to our young
boys, like, to break the norms.
Like, my son can paint hisnails, he can have long hair,
he can do whatever he likes.
It doesn't matter.
There's no gender specif specificity?
In my house.
And I think it's really important forthem to know that they have a strong
(21:51):
mom, and that they have, that they cando whatever they want, but so can their
girlfriends, and so can their boyfriends.
Like, that's the thing.
Anyone can be anything and I andwe we fly a pride flag and we we
love to share with them that It isa deserving of love and they can
do anything that they want in life.
So I feel like it's a bigresponsibility to our boys.
For sure.
Jen Banks (22:11):
Very good.
I love that.
I feel like I've gained adeeper appreciation for men
with having boys because as J.
C.
said, I love being a woman.
There's so many perks.
Yes.
But to get thatappreciation for men is good
Becks (22:22):
too.
Who are our other boy moms in here?
Michelle (22:25):
Okay.
I have a mix.
I have a mix as well.
And I think it, I think such a greatpoint how we have to teach our young men.
One of the things that we did, becauseI have seven kids, but my, my story is
two of them were natural and five ofthem are adopted and they all came at
different ages and different stages.
And then I've experiencedmiscarriages too.
(22:47):
I had six of them and then Iwasn't able to get pregnant.
So God's Well, it's funny.
He's like, well, we'll give you five more.
But when these children entered ourhome, especially the young men and coming
into a house where there's other girlsand how to treat them and, and, and no.
That my girls shouldstand up for themselves.
(23:08):
So what we did is westarted dating our kids.
And my husband and I, we would takeeach one of the kids out on a date
and they would learn how to date.
And one week my son would ask me out, thenext week I would ask out my daughter.
And we did this throughouttheir whole childhood.
And my favorite experience when my songot out of the Marines, I'm going to cry
(23:28):
He came home and he snuck downstairs andhe put on his dress blues and then he
went to the front door and he knockedon the front door and I opened it up
and there he was all in his uniform andhe's like the first thing I want to do
mom is take you on a date and he hadflowers so I think it's so important that
we set a standard inside of our home.
(23:50):
on how people should be treated.
Our moms, our sisters,our friends, our family.
And it starts with these young men.
And not letting them mistreat women.
And your daughter standingup and owning their voice.
Date your kids is one of my advicesI would have and it was Good for our
family and helped us blend all thesedifferent personalities and ages.
(24:12):
I love that.
That's
Becks (24:13):
so incredibly powerful.
So I have, I want to diveinto that a little bit.
So tell us like whatthat looked like for you.
Would you go out to dinner oryou'd have conversations or,
Michelle (24:23):
what did that look like?
So we had rules.
So because of the kids all comingat different stages and ages if
you had a date, we'd go out ona date and the date would go on.
Unless they misbehaved and then the datewould end because of behavioral problems
with some of these kids that were comingin with different backgrounds, but They
would ask out and we would ask out andthen sometimes we'd have this big jar and
(24:45):
you'd pull it out and maybe a Date wouldbe five dollars or a date would be free
or a date would be at home and we'd haveto make dinner together one of my favorite
dates that my son had, we'd go to R.
C.
Willey and play hide and seek.
You could be creative with dates, picnicsin the park just even going to the grocery
store and learning how to grocery shop.
Just some of these life skills, buthaving that time and interviewing
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and talking to our kids and lettingthem know how valuable they are
and having a safe space to land.
And I think it was important thatmy husband and I both did it.
And that the children would have a turnin asking us out as much as we would have
a turn in asking them out and it wouldjust go through a rotation and so I think
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when I speak to my children now and I seethem doing the same thing in their family
and they talk about that experience, howthat created a relationship that they
didn't have coming from other backgrounds.
So I think it's just an It's a greatplace to play, have curiosity and to
create a bond that you wouldn't haveif you didn't take them out on a date.
Becks (25:52):
Yeah, I absolutely love that, especially in your situation, how
you had these children coming to youat different phases in their life
and really, needing to know thoselife skills and how to interact
with their family, their siblings.
Just so cool.
I've never heard of that before,so I appreciate you sharing that.
Thank you.
It was fun.
Sarah, can you get, share aMemorable moment from your blog
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or services that illustrate theimpact you've had on other women?
Sarah (2) (26:19):
I think the most important thing that I do is to help empower women.
To help them believe that no matterwhat they choose in their birth.
Some moms, they're needing ac section right off the bat.
And other women, theywant to birth at home.
And just helping thembelieve in themselves.
Helping them realize that they haveso much strength within themselves to
accomplish, like, the most difficult.
(26:42):
Labor and delivery is one of thosetransformative events in the lives
of a woman and just helping them knowthat they can do it is It's just been
so magical to be able to receive thatfeedback from people saying like, thank
you so much for helping me, like Iwas able to have my unmedicated labor.
And this is just a text that I got afew weeks ago from, from a friend who
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was able to take one of our courses.
And that just really lights me up andmakes me realize that it's not the
message that people are sharing thesedays is that people have the ability.
I think the message these days is like,we'll go to the hospital and they'll
just do X, Y, and Z and, and so Ijust, I help people to really feel that
empowerment and the belief in themselves.
Becks (27:27):
Okay, ladies.
Did you just hear what she said?
That's amazing.
I know.
I love
Amber (27:30):
it.
Did she wing that?
Becks (27:31):
I know.
Oh my gosh.
Women at their most vulnerable.
Yes.
Like.
We all had given, had babieshere naturally, natural birth.
Not that, motherhood comes in alldifferent fashions, but talk about the
worst pain in my entire life, right?
Bringing those littlebabies into the world.
(27:52):
But I love what you said.
And I just want to, havea round table about this.
You're seeing women at theirmost vulnerable, but also
their most powerful moment.
Like I was having goosebumps head totoe when you're talking about that.
Tell me what you guys, what youthought about what Sarah said.
Any thoughts?
Lindsie (28:10):
I wish that I knew you on my first, my goodness, because my, my thought
process was it has to be just like themovies and I'm just supposed to pop him
out, three days later being induced.
It was not like that at all.
It's very traumatic.
So I wish I knew youbecause it was traumatic.
And then it was traumatic formonths after just remembering
and like it was really hard.
So I think what you do is amazing.
(28:31):
I do
Amber (28:32):
too.
Absolute.
Well, and my first instinctwas like, you have a gift.
I can tell.
Mm-Hmm, absolutely.
Of empowering people like you.
Like you're talking like, yes, Ican do it , I can have three more.
Like, okay.
I'm like, I need another baby . ButI, I think we all here at this table
have a God-given talent that we have.
Whether you believe in God or notyou have a talent that you have
(28:55):
and I could feel it from you andthat you are passionate about it.
So thanks for sharing.
Yeah,
Michelle (29:00):
that was a beautiful share.
I had a
Becks (29:02):
few choice, like badass words.
So thank you for that, Sarah.
Really, really incredible work,
Jen Banks (29:08):
what you do.
And breastfeeding.
Nobody ever told me howawful it was going to be.
Oh gosh.
I don't know why.
I just thought it was going to be
Michelle (29:14):
picturesque.
That's all I know.
She said that it hurt.
Jen Banks (29:17):
Right?
You just see the moms bonding withtheir baby, but that's not how it was.
You're like,
Becks (29:21):
hair and makeup is perfect.
And the nurse brings you your perfectchild and you're just, this is going to
be so easy and you're like, what's that?
Also a few choice wordsthat I couldn't imagine.
No, but yeah.
Did you have something too, Jaci,that you wanted to share that looked
Jaycee (2) (29:35):
like you?
Well, you brought up breastfeeding,and when I had my first, I had my first
girl, obviously, and I was changingher diaper, and she has a period.
And I'm like, what the freak?
I'm like 24.
And I call my doctor, andthey're like, oh, that's normal.
And I'm like Really?
I, like, I never heard of it before.
(29:55):
Still to this day, I've never heard ofanyone else giving their kid a period.
But I guess it is normal.
It's common or something.
But I had so many hormones going throughme that I gave my daughter a period.
And I was like, this is insane!
And you're acting insane.
Because, you're postpartum.
I don't know.
Is anyone else insane after that?
I do really weird things like standin the shower and just And then your
breasts are leaking, what's leaking.
(30:17):
So we like this, like, we'regoing to do this again.
Like it's the world's best kept secret.
Postpartum.
Amber (30:25):
And nobody talks about any of those.
Nobody,
Jaycee (2) (30:27):
but then we do it again.
Birthing is like, it's like kind ofmagical because I think the birthday
now that is magic, but the, thenext six weeks after another word.
And, and so that day makes up for.
Everything after it's so whatyou do is like amazing that
you're there for the Good day.
The good, good day.
Amber (30:46):
By the way, I gave my dog a period after I had a baby.
The hormones that I had, the dogwas like picking up on and made
the same hormones and like, yeah.
Oh, you were mimicking.
You were cka dodo.
Becks (30:59):
Yeah.
I thought I was.
Yeah.
Amber (31:01):
Like my dog thought she was pregnant.
Went too.
Oh, you went
Jaycee (2) (31:04):
places.
You guys,
Amber (31:05):
nature is weird.
Oh, crazy
Jaycee (2) (31:07):
and fascinating and beautiful.
Womanhood is.
It's so beautiful and crazy.
Michelle (31:11):
I think womanhood, right there, what we just got
talked about, we're superheroes.
What creature does that?
And then goes, let's do it again.
And my example, because I only had twobirths and these miscarriages, when I
adopted my daughter the only one I gotfrom birth and they did the second skin
(31:33):
and they do the cocoon and you put thelittle thing on and they put this little.
tube down near my breasts so she couldpretend like she was breastfeeding.
Well, that was a stupid idea because mybody's like, Oh, we've done this before.
I know exactly what started making milk.
After 11 years, I'm like, no, no, no, no.
That was closed.
(31:53):
That's why I adopted it's broken.
And so being a woman is incrediblewhat our bodies do, how it
can stretch and then just go.
Bounce back, within time, but make dogshave periods, make our daughters have
periods, make milk come after 11 years.
If that's not a superhero,I don't know what is.
(32:14):
Girls, holy cow, where's our
Amber (32:16):
cape?
Right?
We don't
Becks (32:19):
even need a cape.
We don't need a cape.
We just need a hot shower.
Oh, we should get tiaras for everybody.
We should.
We'll put
Amber (32:27):
our tiaras on.
I love it.
I might have one.
Oh, I love it!
Becks (32:33):
Tiara, why do we not have
Jaycee (2) (32:35):
that on?
Becks (32:36):
Well, I just want to open it up.
Is there, are there any questions thatwe did not ask or something, a message
that you want to share or a powerfulquote or something that you just wanted
to share with our listeners today?
And we'll just go down the, thelist here, or does anybody have one
right off they want to start with?
I
Amber (32:55):
can share.
Yeah, I was just thinking, when wewhen the topic was International
Women's Day I feel like sometimesI take that for granted.
I grew up in a household whereliterally from birth, I felt
like I could conquer the world.
Like I thought I can run forpresident and I will win.
Like I just, I just like, I neverfelt like there was anything
wrong with being a woman.
I wasn't made to feel that way.
(33:16):
So I was really fortunate andlucky that I had that environment
to grow in and develop in.
So for me, this is a topic that I haveto think about now because it wasn't
instinctual for me to think about it.
And now that I do think about it, andagain, I don't have daughters, so I'm not
made to think about that on the daily,but when I do think about it for me,
(33:36):
what being a woman has meant to me isthat I, I know that there are, there are
things in place for me that if I want togo to college, that I can go to college.
There are still women in thisworld who don't have, that's not
even, reading is not even allowed.
So I do take that for, forgranted and I do have to.
Consciously think about whatdoes being a woman mean in the
(33:59):
world, not just in my bubble.
I, I hope, and I, I pray thatwomen will all be able to
feel that way at some point.
But I feel very fortunate thatI did feel that way growing up,
Becks (34:11):
That's a great point, right?
Because we do live in a very Place.
We're here in Daybreak,South Jordan, Utah.
We have a lot at our fingertips.
I'm in real estate.
We weren't even allowedto own homes, right?
Land, anything.
You mentioned somebody, I think itwas you, Michelle, you mentioned
earlier, the right to vote.
(34:33):
I went and did a humanitariantrip to Haiti and I forget, right?
We forget when we're in this environment,they don't have birth control there
and your average life expectancy.
In this world is 40.
40!
They have no aid, no healthcare, no birth control.
(34:53):
Like their orphanages are justfull of babies that are abandoned.
So I love that you bring thatto our attention because We are
pretty blessed where we're at.
Amber (35:03):
We are.
And, and we can't forget though, thatthere are women who still feel that
way in our environment, in our bubble.
True.
So there are still women whodo feel that way, but yeah.
And in general, yes, we are blessed.
We are lucky.
Becks (35:17):
Yeah, yeah.
Any other thoughts?
I just want to go down our panel here.
I, I
Michelle (35:22):
love that she said that.
I grew up in the same environment where Ifeel like I could just conquer the world.
I think that is such a blessing,but I think of my kids.
One of my daughters is from Ethiopia.
And she was born there and came over here.
And I think about her history, her family,her situation, her hardship just to get to
(35:44):
America and how it is not given everywhereand we need to be mindful of the seat
and the table that we're sitting at.
In this place, daybreak, theUnited States, Utah, it is a very
beautiful table, but we need to bemindful of women all over the world.
We have a program that my daughter and Ihave set up in Ethiopia and because the
(36:07):
women there don't have what we have, andthat is sad in 2024 that there are still
women just suffering and it's a cross.
And so I think we need to be mindful andbe aware of what table we're sitting at.
Becks (36:21):
That's really, really powerful.
And I would love to get that informationand we'll share that on our socials
too, and this podcast goes out.
We'll be sure to link thatat the bottom of our socials.
Thank you.
JC, did you have something as well?
Jaycee (2) (36:33):
I'd like to say ditto.
Yeah.
Drop the mic.
I know.
We and Amber talked about itbefore we got here and it was
kind of like, Oh, this is hard.
Cause like what Amber said, we havegrown up in this kind of fairytale,
little bubble, like she said.
But I think it's so importantthat we do remember.
Our bubble is so small compared.
We talk about overseas, but there's even,like you said, people here in the U S
(36:55):
are definitely limited for being a woman.
I know my cousin who's adopted twokids who this woman is, right here
in America, not, you didn't evenhave to go to Haiti or Ethiopia.
There's.
People here struggling and I,I just so happy to be reminded
of that by you wonderful women.
And yeah, I'm thankful to be here andhave, have to have had you had me here.
(37:16):
So thank you.
Yeah,
Becks (37:17):
thank you.
We appreciate all themessages that you've sent.
That you've shared so thus far.
Sarah, any thoughts?
Sarah (2) (37:25):
One of the quotes that I wanted to share today was from Oprah, and she
said, A queen is not afraid to fail.
Failure is another steppingstone to greatness.
And just remembering that no onehas arrived at the greatness.
It's all a journey that we takeone step at a time each day.
Lifting each other, helping eachother, supporting each other as women.
(37:45):
And honoring each otheras the queens we are.
Becks (37:49):
Oh, I love that.
Absolutely love that.
Gotta love that Oprah.
I don't
Lindsie (37:52):
know if you could top that one.
I
Becks (37:54):
know, right?
Well, you're next, Lindsie.
Well,
Lindsie (37:57):
I don't have a quote, but I did think a lot about like the strong women
like Oprah, Barbara Walters, like a lotof the women that just forged the path.
And I, I'm always inspired by them.
And you think about their storiesand a lot of what they've done is.
Like, they've done it themselves.
They've, they've challenged andstepped above their own limits.
(38:17):
And I think that's really inspirational.
Becks (38:19):
Pushed through that.
Lindsie (38:20):
Yeah.
Yeah.
In spite of anything that anyonetold them they couldn't do.
I love You can't do this becauseyou're a different color.
You can't do this because you're a female.
They were like, Yes, I can.
And they did and it's very inspirational.
Yeah, I
Becks (38:32):
love that too.
One of my favorite mottos and kindof thoughts along those lines is
empowered women empower women.
And it, it really, as we're goingdown the panel and we're listening
that I'm like, yes, yes, yes, yes.
And doesn't it just fill you withthis, we talked about the energy
(38:52):
here and how palpable it is.
Right.
And it's hard not to be overwhelmedwith emotion, but it makes me want.
Want to do even greater things totake that, to take this conversation.
You're birthing babies, you workedin LA and life coaches and Lindsie,
I can't even pronounce like whatyour career is because you're just
so freaking awesome, like what?
(39:14):
You do.
And Jen, of course, with your voice andpodcasting and JC too, like I need to
figure out how to get as many followersas you for one, it's just a powerful
group of women and the things that wecan do when we're helping each other, is
the point that I wanted to bring home.
Jen, what did you have?
Jen Banks (39:30):
Well, I've been thinking a lot about energy and just the
energy that we bring to eachsituation and thinking about this.
energy in the room.
If we could bring that energy tomotherhood, to the world, that's the
kind of energy that will lift others,that will empower us to do what we're
called to do or to help our children.
(39:51):
I feel like that's just, weneed more of that energy.
So the more that we can celebrate women,the more that we can encourage each other,
that will keep that energy moving forward.
Yeah, I love
Becks (40:01):
that.
Any final last thoughts from anybody?
Michelle (40:05):
Yeah, I think what I sense is there's this beautiful quiet confidence.
And I think that's such a giftthat each one of you have.
And because once you sit in that space,I think that's when we don't budge.
on our boundaries, which is justa fancy word for our values.
And if we stand to those values inthat quiet confidence, we become
(40:28):
better mothers, sisters, communities.
And just around here, this is sucha beautiful table, but this quiet
confidence, it's not boastful.
It's not ego.
It's just sitting in yourtalents and your gifts.
And you guys are remarkable andI feel privileged to be here.
Thank you.
Aw, thanks,
Becks (40:46):
Michelle.
Yeah, Amber.
Amber (40:48):
I'm not going to say who it was because that might sway some people's
opinions, but I heard a quote and I'mgoing to paraphrase it because I don't
remember it, but it was basically.
You cannot sit and listen tosomeone's story and get to
know them and hate that person.
You can't sit across from them andlook them in the eye, hear their
story, and then hate that person.
(41:09):
And I just thought that's so true.
Like us as women when we get to knoweach other, when we spend time with each
other, when we hear your story, when wehear your history, when we hear where
you've been and what you've been through.
You can't help but love that person.
And I think that's what we'reexperiencing here as well is that
we're hearing each other's storiesand everyone here is different.
(41:29):
We might look a lot alikebecause some of us are blonde
Becks (41:32):
and some of you are blonde over here in the corner,
Amber (41:36):
but we're not, we're not alike.
And not to judge people, not toimmediately just cast judgment
on someone and get to know thembecause you will love that person.
It's almost impossible
Becks (41:47):
not to.
Yeah.
How powerful that is.
And, I think along those lines iswhen you hear somebody's story, you
can be very empathetic having gonethrough some of those situations or
bits and pieces of that yourself.
Right.
So you become empathetic and we'resympathetic if you can relate, but
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haven't necessarily been throughthat same experience, but it.
At the very minimum allows you toget to know them and you can have
compassion for their path because we'reeach on our own different path with
our own backgrounds and situations.
Living here, meeting in thisroom right now, having this
awesome, powerful experience.
(42:29):
And I'm just really incredibly gratefulto each of you for taking the time
to be here and share your messages.
So thank you to you all.
Before we wrap, I do want to get andBlane can edit this part out, but I do
want to get, if there's a, If we canfind you on socials, if you'll just
announce those, like where you, wherewe can find you on your socials so that
(42:50):
we can include them in the podcast.
You can't find me on socials.
I know where to find you.
I don't have any.
Amber (42:57):
Disclaimer, I am not an influencer, but it's at Amber Brooke Bennett.
Becks (43:02):
Okay.
Thank you,
Michelle (43:03):
Amber.
My coaching is Michelle Orton, lowercasereal coaching.com, and I think my handle
on Facebook is Michelle Orton seven.
I don't, I'm not sure.
Do you have your phone?
You can pull it out.
Oh, no.
It's out there.
Okay.
That's okay.
We'll, we'll, we'll, we'll, we'll find,it'll post it, we'll post it at the end.
But I love the story thing that you said.
I think that is so powerful because fromthe beginning of time, that's how people
(43:27):
started to communicate is telling storiesaround a fire, on a wall, on a song.
And you were in the filmindustry and we watch movies.
Stories are powerful and they connect andevery one of us has such a beautiful one.
Don't, don't hide your story.
Share it because it will touchsomebody and that's what's
going to bring us closer.
I think that was such a powerful point.
So thanks for sharing that.
Jaycee (2) (43:48):
Truly.
Amber, along with that, I justwanted to remind everyone that social
media is a highlight reel and todo have connections in real person.
Like, I feel like this today isso amazing because it's in person.
And I think we forget that so muchof things is online these days.
And being in person,there's something about it.
There's true connecting andlearning people's story, social
(44:11):
media is a highlight reel.
And it And what is your social media?
Oh yes.
Social media is at Life of a sister.
And thank you again for having me.
Yeah, thank you.
Sarah (2) (44:22):
My socials are at Made mindful on most of the platforms.
Becks (44:26):
Awesome.
Thank you Sarah.
I know where to find you.
Tell us again, Jen.
Jaycee (2) (44:30):
Yeah, Jen, tell us
Jen Banks (44:32):
a for adversity.com we're at a for adversity.
Becks (44:35):
Awesome.
And did you have any final thoughts asa host that you wanted to share or ask?
No.
Well, again, ladies, I, I do really,I know your time is very valuable.
Each of you are just.
Just amazing at what you do and, andthank you for sharing your, your message
and I think we should do this again.
Mother's Day is coming up, right?
(44:56):
Well, let's all give a
Amber (44:57):
hand to our hosts.
Hostesses Becks and Jen.
Amazing.
Lindsie (45:01):
Thank you.
I think the only edit islike, let's have some Kleenex.
Becks (45:05):
For me, I was gonna text him, but it's been a day.
Blane,
Michelle (45:09):
your wife's in Kleenex,
Jaycee (2) (45:10):
Blane!
Thanks again for Blane from Ride the WaveMedia for producing this podcast episode.
If you want to join the podcastnetwork, I highly recommend it.
You can have your own show andthere's no better network than
this, Ride the Wave Media.
I am so excited for this week's episode.
It's a first in my podcast history.
I have six guests onthe show and two hosts.
Woo.
You could feel the womenenergy in that room.
It was incredible.
And I cannot wait to sharethis interview with you.
So let's get right to it.
Becks (00:39):
We have an awesome panel for International Women's Day, just
some amazing women in studio today.
So thank you all for joining us.
Of course.
Thank you.
Thanks.
Yeah, we're excited.
So we're going to just go down thelist here and if you don't mind just
introducing yourself, tell us a couplethings about you and just get to know you.
I'm
Sarah (2) (00:58):
Sarah Zaroll.
I'm the founder of Made Mindful, whichhas resources for birth and motherhood for
anybody who is on their first time journeyor is just needing more assistance.
I'm a birth doula and have reallyenjoyed being able to help people
start their motherhood journeys.
Becks (01:15):
Awesome.
Thank you, Sarah.
Jaycee (01:17):
Hi, I'm Jaycee.
I have an Instagram account calledLife of a Sister where it's two
sisters just being insane and crazy,showing our crazy life with our
eight children between the two of us.
I have three girls and one boy and weshow all things fashion, all things
crazy, cooking, food, pretty muchjust the day in the life of a sister.
Becks (01:40):
How awesome.
Thanks for joining us today, Jaycee.
Michelle (01:43):
Hi, I'm Michelle.
I have seven kids.
I kept on having kidsuntil I found one I like.
I really like my last one.
Yep, I'm gonna keep her.
Ages 38 down to 18.
I'm a life coach, relationshipcoach, trauma coach.
I've been doing it for 18 years and Ihave my certificate through Stanford.
I take you from where you are now.
(02:05):
and let's move you forward.
Wow.
Thank you for having us.
I'm excited to get to know everyone.
Yeah, thanks for coming.
Amber (02:11):
Hi, I'm Amber Bennett.
I am currently in the thick of motherhood,but I did have a very colorful life
before motherhood, so I'm excitedto share with you guys by way of Los
Angeles and working in the film industrywith set design and costume design.
Becks (02:25):
Wow, awesome.
Thanks, Amber.
Hi, I'm Lindsie.
Lindsie (02:28):
I work in the aerospace and defense.
Industry.
I'm a senior acquisition managerand co owner of Ride the Wave
Media, and I'm really excitedto get you to know all of you
Becks (02:38):
as well.
Awesome.
Yeah, we've got a great panel today,so thank you again for joining us.
Jen, I'm going to let you kickus off with our first question.
Okay, sounds
Jen Banks (02:47):
great.
Amber, your journey tomotherhood was not easy.
How has that experienceshaped you and who you are?
Amber (02:55):
Yeah, well, thanks for asking.
It took me a long time to have kids.
We had unexplained infertility.
So about 10 years of not knowing why, butwe had miscarriages and things like that.
And it was a hard time, butlooking back now I'm in the perfect
stage of my life to be a mother.
So I, I love being able to sharethat with others, what I've learned
along the way, being there for otherswho are struggling with infertility.
(03:18):
But in those 10 years, I didhave a lot of adventures.
It's just, I appreciate things nowabout being a mother that I don't know
if I would have as much if I wouldhave had kids earlier, but I love it.
I'm enjoying that part of my liferight now and we're lucky we ended
up having two boys, so I feel superblessed that they were able to come and.
(03:40):
I'll share with you a littlebit later when it comes up.
But yeah, we did have a lot ofadventures in LA before kids came.
So it was fun.
That's awesome.
Jaycee (2) (03:48):
Thanks.
Jen Banks (03:49):
Great.
Sarah, do you haveanything to add to that?
What have you seen through Made Mindful?
Have, have you come across a lot ofinfertility or people, or what has been
your experience meeting different mothers?
Sarah (2) (04:01):
I think infertility is one of the unspoken heartaches
of our generation right now.
It's, it's never something thatsomeone can, like really describe
what support they need, but everybodycan pinpoint the support that they
don't need or the comments thatreally dig down deep to their soul.
(04:22):
And as we have been supporting clients,especially those who have had miscarriages
or they're delivering their rainbow baby.
There's so much that's built withinthem that actually prohibits them
from having a successful delivery.
And so when you were talking about yourtrauma, we try to help people to release
their fears and really get past thosethings while they're pregnant so that
(04:43):
when it comes time for delivery, they're
Becks (04:45):
ready.
Oh, I love that.
I love that.
And that really does bring into focuswhat, That really does bring into
focus why we are here and why wewanted this panel of women to come and
talk about who you are, what you do.
We are all from the samecommunity, so that's neat.
(05:05):
We do have that in common.
But it leads me to International Women'sDay and bringing these strong, amazing
women from our community together.
I just want to run down the list and we'llstart here with you, Lindsie, on what does
International Women's Day mean to you?
Lindsie (05:23):
I was, I saw the question, I thought about the question today
before coming in and I was like, I'mtrying to pinpoint because when it.
First came about, it was Ilooked at it interestingly.
I thought it was like an overlyfeministic and abrasive day and then I
learned more and more about like whatit was like coming into my own skin.
And, don't
Michelle (05:44):
do that.
Becks (05:45):
We're all here to support
Michelle (05:46):
you hair girl.
It's just because we have suchwomen power here right now.
Own the emotion.
It's a beautiful gift.
Own the emotion.
Absolutely.
Becks (05:56):
I'm over here with tears in my eyes because I feel.
Lindsie (05:59):
I've just seen a lot of examples lately in life where really
strong women have come together.
I have a coworker that is amazing.
And I think, and a lot of mycoworkers that are amazing.
Just the experience of seeing the powerthat women have in the face of adversity,
not necessarily saying that it's likemale adversity, but just even our own
(06:21):
adversity, like our own self imposed.
Yeah.
Our own cap that we put on ourself,our own confidence cap that we put.
Michelle (06:29):
Goodness.
Anyway, it means
Lindsie (06:30):
a lot, obviously.
No, and I'm like way here for all women.
Like, Oh, I love that.
Not in a psycho feminist way, butlike in a way that we are amazing.
Becks (06:41):
Yes.
And I love that you started thatby saying, I can feel the energy
here because I'm over here again.
You're going to make me cry.
But I'm going to feel that I feelthat as well, just that energy.
We've got some amazing women here doingsome amazing things in our community.
And, again, this International Women'sDay, we can take a very feminist.
to it and it can quicklyturn into a negative thing.
(07:06):
And I don't think that's, why we'regathered here or the intention of today.
And so I really love your, youranswer and, how you address that.
Because I think sometimesit comes from other women.
It comes from ourselves.
Yeah, from ourselves.
And I know we've got some lifecoaches here that can probably
speak a little more to that.
You setting up appointments.
Yes, exactly.
But.
(07:26):
Right?
Like, we sometimes have those whatam I trying to say here, ladies?
Those ideas or those limitingbeliefs that we put on ourselves.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
I love that you shared that.
Thank you.
Yes.
Michelle (07:39):
That's exactly, I think, where we should celebrate is that we
As women in this room and within ourtribe and within our community, we are
breaking those beliefs and those threadsthat have gone back through history.
When I thought about this topic andreally the impact of women that we've had.
(08:02):
And how short history is.
So just a hundred yearsago, yeah, we got to vote.
Yeah, that's crazy.
I remember thinking driving herethat what's my great grandma.
Yeah.
She didn't have that rightto have an opinion about her.
community, her tribe, her neighborhood.
And I think it's really important thatas we sit here with our beauty and
(08:25):
our strength and that we're shatteringthese beliefs and it starts within our
family and then it starts within ourcommunity and then it moves out and we
need to shatter in one Thread at a time.
Where does that thread link back?
Like you're talking about yourinfertility and that thread is so tender.
And then, going into thesebirths, you have to cut those
(08:47):
threads in order to be set free.
Yeah.
I love that.
And I think that's whatwe're doing here today.
Thank you.
Becks (08:56):
How about you, JC, what are your thoughts on International Women's
Day or just motherhood or women ingeneral, wherever you want to take that?
Jaycee (2) (09:03):
Well, first of all, I want to say that I love being a woman.
I think it comes with a lot of perks.
Yeah, it does.
I love all of the parts of it.
I love being a mom.
I even love the hardships thatcome with a woman and then the
relationships I think you find throughthose hardships with other women.
I recently, my high school friendshave started having a polo group and
(09:24):
it's going 24 seven, so I can't keepup on it always, but just finding
the connection and the other women.
There's probably a lot of them whoare going through what you're going
through, or maybe someone's going throughsomething that you have been through.
And it's just so magicalto see what women can do.
And it just makes me happy to listento it through and out the day.
And it's like friendship.
Yeah.
(09:44):
And I love being a woman.
It's fun.
Amber (09:47):
I just want to put a plug in for JC because her
Instagram account is so inspiring.
I think it's a space that's super safefor women and when I, I know there's a
lot of controversy about, influencersand Instagram and how it makes you
feel, but it's a safe space and youmake women feel okay about themselves.
You're really real.
(10:08):
So I just wanted to put a plug in
Becks (10:09):
for you on that.
I love that.
And I'm going to bounceit back and ask, have you.
Received pushback with yourInstagram and like being a strong
female, face in the community.
She's over here smiling.
Yeah,
Jaycee (2) (10:23):
it's coming.
You know what?
Me and my sister, Mackenzie, whoI run the account with, we have
been truly, I feel like, blessed.
Our followers are really nice.
Like, we've talked aboutit actually multiple times.
And maybe that is because most of thetime we try not to be too controversial
and keep it light, like Amber said.
It's pretty light.
Place.
Like I said, it's just us being crazy momsmost of the time and throwing on an Amazon
(10:46):
deal, that can make you really happy.
Sometimes it's just an Amazondeal that can make you happy at
the end of the day and it getsthere at your doorstep next day.
That's the best part, perks again ofbeing a woman, especially in 2024.
But yeah, there's definitely times whenyou post something and you're, you're,
you're second guessing yourself, butat the end of the day, I feel like.
(11:07):
Most women, especially these days,are really good to one another,
and I think that's the beauty ofwhere we've, where we've gotten to.
Yeah, I love that.
Michelle (11:16):
That's
Jen Banks (11:16):
great.
I have a lot of friends who arestuck in the mom guilt phase.
So does anyone have any advice forhow to get out of the mom guilt realm?
Because with technology and withthe advance in media, we do compare
ourselves to others more often justbecause it's out there, but how
can we refrain from doing that?
(11:37):
I feel
Jaycee (2) (11:37):
like you two are super
Amber (11:38):
qualified to answer this.
Yes.
Becks (11:41):
Get our life coaches on here.
Oh my
Michelle (11:43):
goodness.
I think we need to justthrow that little gem out.
We just do not.
Comparisons kill.
Yes.
And there is no reason because we areso incredible and so unique and so rare.
And there's only one of us.
And why waste time comparing?
(12:04):
Because as I look around this table,the individual, each person here is
so beautiful and you are accomplishingand doing what you are made to do.
And if you weren't following yourown Talents and gifts and patterns,
then you wouldn't be an influencer.
You wouldn't be helping, babiescome into this beautiful world and
(12:25):
experience, the miracle of life.
And so I think all of us needto just sit back into the space
and realize how special it isto be rare, how special it is.
to be you.
There's only one of us andthere's a reason for that.
And you are the only onewho can make that impact.
No one else.
You have to make your own impact.
So I say get rid of it.
Cut that thread.
(12:45):
It doesn't exist.
I
Becks (12:46):
love that.
What about you, Sarah?
Any thoughts on that?
I
Sarah (2) (12:50):
think mom guilt is one of the hardest words to really swallow.
In my own life right now, I am actuallyjust taking a breath and slowing down.
Everybody says those youngyears, Just go by so fast.
So my kids, my boys, allthree, six, four, and two.
And so I don't have a lot oftime most days to really dive
(13:12):
into much of anything else.
But because I care for them so deeplyand I do want to be the one that
is raising them day in and day out.
I'm just taking a break from a couple ofmy other responsibilities and sometimes
I feel guilty myself for putting myselfon the back burner, but then I remember
that the time and season is for me rightnow and the attachment that I can form
(13:38):
with my children will create a bondthat that can't be then broken later
on when I do jump back in with bothfeet into everything that I am made to
Michelle (13:48):
pursue.
Yeah, I think she saidthe key, it's a season.
And we have to respect the season thatwe're in and not be so hard on ourselves.
If you're a young mom, yourresponsibility is those little ones.
If you're in a season like me andmy children are gone and now wisdom
and experience are colliding andthey call it a midlife crisis, I
don't think it's a midlife crisis.
(14:10):
I just think it's this beautifulof explosion of this past when
I was a young mom to raisingkids to now an empty nester.
I think when you have that Thatexperience and that wisdom is this
beautiful gift, but you need to sitin each season because it's so short.
You get 12 summers, before they leave.
(14:32):
Just respect where you are andnot be so hard on yourself.
That
Becks (14:36):
really puts things into perspective when you.
Break it down like that, right?
It doesn't always feel so simplifiedwhen you're, you've got toddlers
climbing all over furniture andyou're in the thick of it, right?
Changing diapers and getting no sleep.
And which actually leads toanother question that I had.
And I think you touched on this justa little bit, Sarah, and it, when you
(14:56):
mentioned, not having time for yourself,tell me how you guys approach that
now, how you ladies approach that nowis creating that time or making time.
And Jen, you, you hit the nail on thehead when you're like, sometimes we feel
like that's selfish, that ugly, nasty termor the mom guilt associated with that.
(15:18):
So do any of you want totake on that question?
Any thoughts, Jen?
Jen Banks (15:23):
Yeah, I'll speak to that before we open it up.
That's my mission and purpose inlife is to help women maintain their
identity throughout motherhood.
And I feel like we get trapped sometimeswith the all or nothing mentality.
You don't have to be allmother or all empty nester.
There's some overlap and thereare things that you can do to fill
your cup so that you show up asa better mom to your children.
(15:46):
And that's what I do.
Now I put my boys in daycare onWednesdays every week just to have
that little respite to have the Timewhere I can do podcast interviews
and things like that And so findingthe ways that fill your cup, even
if it's not on a grand scale level
Amber (16:03):
Yeah I was thinking about that as you were talking about it And I have
the opposite of some people I had mynot midlife crisis But I had my kidless
years in the beginning in my 20s So Ifeel like I've lived a whole lifetime
in those 10 years before kids came.
And so I'm in the opposite ofwhat a midlife crisis would be.
(16:25):
But so I, I was able to pursuemy talents and do amazing
things in that 10 year period.
And now I'm living a more quietlife and it's interesting.
So what I try to do.
Is because I am in the thick ofmotherhood with a 13 year old and a
nine year old boy is I'm trying tofind little outlets for my creativity
and the things that I love to do.
(16:46):
So like the other day I went withJen and we went and we did a personal
styling experience where she, I helpedher find some clothes that she looks
amazing in and feels confident infor some of her speaking engagements.
And for me, that filled my cupand I know she probably thought I
was helping her, but it helped me.
Because it filled my cup, I wasable to release those things that
(17:09):
I'm not able to usually exercise.
At this stage in my life, likewe talked about, but little
things like that do fill my cup.
So that's
Becks (17:17):
nice.
That's a great point becauseyou had an entire career.
Tell us a little bit about youwere in the film industry, right?
You?
Yeah.
Amber (17:24):
Well, my husband was there for film school in Los Angeles for 12 years and any
projects he worked on, he would bring meon to help, set decorating, set design.
Wardrobe department, costume design, and Ihad my hands in all that for a long time.
And it was really exciting andreally fun, really superficial.
But it definitely, was a way thatI could, exercise that creative
(17:47):
side of me for a long time.
Becks (17:48):
And it was fun.
Okay, and I've got a follow up foryou because I hear you might be
in law school or second career.
Like, tell me a little bit.
I say it here.
Now I have to,
Amber (17:59):
but no, before kids came, I was looking into graduate school and
I was this close to going to graduateschool and then we were able to have
a successful pregnancy and I had.
A child and that kind of got put onthe back burner and now I feel like
I'm getting to the stage where Icould go back to school and I'm like,
if I'm going to go back to school,why don't I just go to law school?
(18:19):
Because that was always a possibility.
So yeah, we're looking atthat in the future too.
So that's on my bucket list right now.
Becks (18:26):
Absolutely amazing.
Geez.
Maybe I need a secondcareer or third or fourth.
I think your
Lindsie (18:33):
calendar is full enough.
I heard you're on yourfourth or fifth now, aren't
Becks (18:36):
you?
Something
Michelle (18:37):
like that, no, I'm teasing.
Jen Banks (18:40):
JC, do you feel like Instagram is an outlet for you?
Or does it feel more like a duty?
What is that like for you?
Jaycee (2) (18:48):
Instagram?
Is sometimes a four letter word, ifI'm being very honest and there has
been peaks and valleys for sure.
I've been we've had our Instagramaccount for almost 10 years now
and it's definitely changed too inthe time that we've been doing it.
It changed a lot during COVID.
But there's definitely likejoy that still comes from it.
(19:10):
It's a job, but there's joy and I thinkthat's why it, what keeps me going.
There's some days where I want to.
Delete.
And then there's otherdays that you're loving it.
Like all things, I think.
I wouldn't say it's my outlet.
I would say it's whatI'm doing to get it done.
And my outlet was other things.
I are not four letter words.
(19:32):
But I actually think there's a lot ofThere's a lot of perks that come from it.
I've obviously not only like monetarily,but I've gotten to go, to Aruba with
my husband on a trip and things Iprobably would have never gotten to do.
I've gotten to experiencethings like that.
So I love that side of it.
And I also try to be super carefulin front of, I have three girls.
(19:54):
So I try and be verycareful about what they see.
My daughter's almost 11 and she'salready like, I want Instagram.
It's a no.
Which everyone has their own opinions andwhere that goes, but raising three girls,
I definitely have strong, strong feelingsabout social media for young kids.
So they do not see me on socialmedia from when they get home from
(20:17):
school at 335 till, and then I.
I do it while my baby naps.
I do all my filming during then,and then when my kids get into
bed, I do a lot of it in my bedafter my husband starts snoring.
That's when I do like the backgroundstuff, the filming takes place
during my baby's nap, and afterthat I try and put it away so that
my girls don't have to see that.
(20:38):
Wow,
Jen Banks (20:38):
that's a neat boundary to have in place.
That's very impressive.
Impressive, yeah.
Well, we have a lot of boy moms here.
Thank you for sharing thatexperience as a girl mom.
I wouldn't know what that's like.
Jaycee (2) (20:49):
Me either.
Becks (20:50):
We have a lot
Jen Banks (20:50):
of boy moms here.
What's it like for you,Lindsie, raising boys?
Lindsie (20:54):
I think I was mentioning earlier, I thought I was having a girl both times.
So it was a surprise to be a boy mom.
But I decided along the way that there'sa responsibility of being a boy mom.
And I felt like I'm not going todo any of this without crying.
I felt like there's a responsibilityto show them how to have emotions
(21:16):
and how it's okay to have emotions.
My goodness, you girlsare energizing my tears.
Becks (21:22):
You don't have a lot of estrogen at your house.
I
Lindsie (21:24):
don't.
It's like I have a cat that I don't like.
There
Amber (21:28):
really is.
There really is.
Lindsie (21:30):
Yes, exactly.
But I feel like there's aresponsibility to our young
boys, like, to break the norms.
Like, my son can paint hisnails, he can have long hair,
he can do whatever he likes.
It doesn't matter.
There's no gender specif specificity?
In my house.
And I think it's really important forthem to know that they have a strong
(21:51):
mom, and that they have, that they cando whatever they want, but so can their
girlfriends, and so can their boyfriends.
Like, that's the thing.
Anyone can be anything and I andwe we fly a pride flag and we we
love to share with them that It isa deserving of love and they can
do anything that they want in life.
So I feel like it's a bigresponsibility to our boys.
For sure.
Jen Banks (22:11):
Very good.
I love that.
I feel like I've gained adeeper appreciation for men
with having boys because as J.
C.
said, I love being a woman.
There's so many perks.
Yes.
But to get thatappreciation for men is good
Becks (22:22):
too.
Who are our other boy moms in here?
Michelle (22:25):
Okay.
I have a mix.
I have a mix as well.
And I think it, I think such a greatpoint how we have to teach our young men.
One of the things that we did, becauseI have seven kids, but my, my story is
two of them were natural and five ofthem are adopted and they all came at
different ages and different stages.
And then I've experiencedmiscarriages too.
(22:47):
I had six of them and then Iwasn't able to get pregnant.
So God's Well, it's funny.
He's like, well, we'll give you five more.
But when these children entered ourhome, especially the young men and coming
into a house where there's other girlsand how to treat them and, and, and no.
That my girls shouldstand up for themselves.
(23:08):
So what we did is westarted dating our kids.
And my husband and I, we would takeeach one of the kids out on a date
and they would learn how to date.
And one week my son would ask me out, thenext week I would ask out my daughter.
And we did this throughouttheir whole childhood.
And my favorite experience when my songot out of the Marines, I'm going to cry
(23:28):
He came home and he snuck downstairs andhe put on his dress blues and then he
went to the front door and he knockedon the front door and I opened it up
and there he was all in his uniform andhe's like the first thing I want to do
mom is take you on a date and he hadflowers so I think it's so important that
we set a standard inside of our home.
(23:50):
on how people should be treated.
Our moms, our sisters,our friends, our family.
And it starts with these young men.
And not letting them mistreat women.
And your daughter standingup and owning their voice.
Date your kids is one of my advicesI would have and it was Good for our
family and helped us blend all thesedifferent personalities and ages.
(24:12):
I love that.
That's
Becks (24:13):
so incredibly powerful.
So I have, I want to diveinto that a little bit.
So tell us like whatthat looked like for you.
Would you go out to dinner oryou'd have conversations or,
Michelle (24:23):
what did that look like?
So we had rules.
So because of the kids all comingat different stages and ages if
you had a date, we'd go out ona date and the date would go on.
Unless they misbehaved and then the datewould end because of behavioral problems
with some of these kids that were comingin with different backgrounds, but They
would ask out and we would ask out andthen sometimes we'd have this big jar and
(24:45):
you'd pull it out and maybe a Date wouldbe five dollars or a date would be free
or a date would be at home and we'd haveto make dinner together one of my favorite
dates that my son had, we'd go to R.
C.
Willey and play hide and seek.
You could be creative with dates, picnicsin the park just even going to the grocery
store and learning how to grocery shop.
Just some of these life skills, buthaving that time and interviewing
(25:09):
and talking to our kids and lettingthem know how valuable they are
and having a safe space to land.
And I think it was important thatmy husband and I both did it.
And that the children would have a turnin asking us out as much as we would have
a turn in asking them out and it wouldjust go through a rotation and so I think
(25:29):
when I speak to my children now and I seethem doing the same thing in their family
and they talk about that experience, howthat created a relationship that they
didn't have coming from other backgrounds.
So I think it's just an It's a greatplace to play, have curiosity and to
create a bond that you wouldn't haveif you didn't take them out on a date.
Becks (25:52):
Yeah, I absolutely love that, especially in your situation, how
you had these children coming to youat different phases in their life
and really, needing to know thoselife skills and how to interact
with their family, their siblings.
Just so cool.
I've never heard of that before,so I appreciate you sharing that.
Thank you.
It was fun.
Sarah, can you get, share aMemorable moment from your blog
(26:15):
or services that illustrate theimpact you've had on other women?
Sarah (2) (26:19):
I think the most important thing that I do is to help empower women.
To help them believe that no matterwhat they choose in their birth.
Some moms, they're needing ac section right off the bat.
And other women, theywant to birth at home.
And just helping thembelieve in themselves.
Helping them realize that they haveso much strength within themselves to
accomplish, like, the most difficult.
(26:42):
Labor and delivery is one of thosetransformative events in the lives
of a woman and just helping them knowthat they can do it is It's just been
so magical to be able to receive thatfeedback from people saying like, thank
you so much for helping me, like Iwas able to have my unmedicated labor.
And this is just a text that I got afew weeks ago from, from a friend who
(27:05):
was able to take one of our courses.
And that just really lights me up andmakes me realize that it's not the
message that people are sharing thesedays is that people have the ability.
I think the message these days is like,we'll go to the hospital and they'll
just do X, Y, and Z and, and so Ijust, I help people to really feel that
empowerment and the belief in themselves.
Becks (27:27):
Okay, ladies.
Did you just hear what she said?
That's amazing.
I know.
I love
Amber (27:30):
it.
Did she wing that?
Becks (27:31):
I know.
Oh my gosh.
Women at their most vulnerable.
Yes.
Like.
We all had given, had babieshere naturally, natural birth.
Not that, motherhood comes in alldifferent fashions, but talk about the
worst pain in my entire life, right?
Bringing those littlebabies into the world.
(27:52):
But I love what you said.
And I just want to, havea round table about this.
You're seeing women at theirmost vulnerable, but also
their most powerful moment.
Like I was having goosebumps head totoe when you're talking about that.
Tell me what you guys, what youthought about what Sarah said.
Any thoughts?
Lindsie (28:10):
I wish that I knew you on my first, my goodness, because my, my thought
process was it has to be just like themovies and I'm just supposed to pop him
out, three days later being induced.
It was not like that at all.
It's very traumatic.
So I wish I knew youbecause it was traumatic.
And then it was traumatic formonths after just remembering
and like it was really hard.
So I think what you do is amazing.
(28:31):
I do
Amber (28:32):
too.
Absolute.
Well, and my first instinctwas like, you have a gift.
I can tell.
Mm-Hmm, absolutely.
Of empowering people like you.
Like you're talking like, yes, Ican do it , I can have three more.
Like, okay.
I'm like, I need another baby . ButI, I think we all here at this table
have a God-given talent that we have.
Whether you believe in God or notyou have a talent that you have
(28:55):
and I could feel it from you andthat you are passionate about it.
So thanks for sharing.
Yeah,
Michelle (29:00):
that was a beautiful share.
I had a
Becks (29:02):
few choice, like badass words.
So thank you for that, Sarah.
Really, really incredible work,
Jen Banks (29:08):
what you do.
And breastfeeding.
Nobody ever told me howawful it was going to be.
Oh gosh.
I don't know why.
I just thought it was going to be
Michelle (29:14):
picturesque.
That's all I know.
She said that it hurt.
Jen Banks (29:17):
Right?
You just see the moms bonding withtheir baby, but that's not how it was.
You're like,
Becks (29:21):
hair and makeup is perfect.
And the nurse brings you your perfectchild and you're just, this is going to
be so easy and you're like, what's that?
Also a few choice wordsthat I couldn't imagine.
No, but yeah.
Did you have something too, Jaci,that you wanted to share that looked
Jaycee (2) (29:35):
like you?
Well, you brought up breastfeeding,and when I had my first, I had my first
girl, obviously, and I was changingher diaper, and she has a period.
And I'm like, what the freak?
I'm like 24.
And I call my doctor, andthey're like, oh, that's normal.
And I'm like Really?
I, like, I never heard of it before.
(29:55):
Still to this day, I've never heard ofanyone else giving their kid a period.
But I guess it is normal.
It's common or something.
But I had so many hormones going throughme that I gave my daughter a period.
And I was like, this is insane!
And you're acting insane.
Because, you're postpartum.
I don't know.
Is anyone else insane after that?
I do really weird things like standin the shower and just And then your
breasts are leaking, what's leaking.
(30:17):
So we like this, like, we'regoing to do this again.
Like it's the world's best kept secret.
Postpartum.
Amber (30:25):
And nobody talks about any of those.
Nobody,
Jaycee (2) (30:27):
but then we do it again.
Birthing is like, it's like kind ofmagical because I think the birthday
now that is magic, but the, thenext six weeks after another word.
And, and so that day makes up for.
Everything after it's so whatyou do is like amazing that
you're there for the Good day.
The good, good day.
Amber (30:46):
By the way, I gave my dog a period after I had a baby.
The hormones that I had, the dogwas like picking up on and made
the same hormones and like, yeah.
Oh, you were mimicking.
You were cka dodo.
Becks (30:59):
Yeah.
I thought I was.
Yeah.
Amber (31:01):
Like my dog thought she was pregnant.
Went too.
Oh, you went
Jaycee (2) (31:04):
places.
You guys,
Amber (31:05):
nature is weird.
Oh, crazy
Jaycee (2) (31:07):
and fascinating and beautiful.
Womanhood is.
It's so beautiful and crazy.
Michelle (31:11):
I think womanhood, right there, what we just got
talked about, we're superheroes.
What creature does that?
And then goes, let's do it again.
And my example, because I only had twobirths and these miscarriages, when I
adopted my daughter the only one I gotfrom birth and they did the second skin
(31:33):
and they do the cocoon and you put thelittle thing on and they put this little.
tube down near my breasts so she couldpretend like she was breastfeeding.
Well, that was a stupid idea because mybody's like, Oh, we've done this before.
I know exactly what started making milk.
After 11 years, I'm like, no, no, no, no.
That was closed.
(31:53):
That's why I adopted it's broken.
And so being a woman is incrediblewhat our bodies do, how it
can stretch and then just go.
Bounce back, within time, but make dogshave periods, make our daughters have
periods, make milk come after 11 years.
If that's not a superhero,I don't know what is.
(32:14):
Girls, holy cow, where's our
Amber (32:16):
cape?
Right?
We don't
Becks (32:19):
even need a cape.
We don't need a cape.
We just need a hot shower.
Oh, we should get tiaras for everybody.
We should.
We'll put
Amber (32:27):
our tiaras on.
I love it.
I might have one.
Oh, I love it!
Becks (32:33):
Tiara, why do we not have
Jaycee (2) (32:35):
that on?
Becks (32:36):
Well, I just want to open it up.
Is there, are there any questions thatwe did not ask or something, a message
that you want to share or a powerfulquote or something that you just wanted
to share with our listeners today?
And we'll just go down the, thelist here, or does anybody have one
right off they want to start with?
I
Amber (32:55):
can share.
Yeah, I was just thinking, when wewhen the topic was International
Women's Day I feel like sometimesI take that for granted.
I grew up in a household whereliterally from birth, I felt
like I could conquer the world.
Like I thought I can run forpresident and I will win.
Like I just, I just like, I neverfelt like there was anything
wrong with being a woman.
I wasn't made to feel that way.
(33:16):
So I was really fortunate andlucky that I had that environment
to grow in and develop in.
So for me, this is a topic that I haveto think about now because it wasn't
instinctual for me to think about it.
And now that I do think about it, andagain, I don't have daughters, so I'm not
made to think about that on the daily,but when I do think about it for me,
(33:36):
what being a woman has meant to me isthat I, I know that there are, there are
things in place for me that if I want togo to college, that I can go to college.
There are still women in thisworld who don't have, that's not
even, reading is not even allowed.
So I do take that for, forgranted and I do have to.
Consciously think about whatdoes being a woman mean in the
(33:59):
world, not just in my bubble.
I, I hope, and I, I pray thatwomen will all be able to
feel that way at some point.
But I feel very fortunate thatI did feel that way growing up,
Becks (34:11):
That's a great point, right?
Because we do live in a very Place.
We're here in Daybreak,South Jordan, Utah.
We have a lot at our fingertips.
I'm in real estate.
We weren't even allowedto own homes, right?
Land, anything.
You mentioned somebody, I think itwas you, Michelle, you mentioned
earlier, the right to vote.
(34:33):
I went and did a humanitariantrip to Haiti and I forget, right?
We forget when we're in this environment,they don't have birth control there
and your average life expectancy.
In this world is 40.
40!
They have no aid, no healthcare, no birth control.
(34:53):
Like their orphanages are justfull of babies that are abandoned.
So I love that you bring thatto our attention because We are
pretty blessed where we're at.
Amber (35:03):
We are.
And, and we can't forget though, thatthere are women who still feel that
way in our environment, in our bubble.
True.
So there are still women whodo feel that way, but yeah.
And in general, yes, we are blessed.
We are lucky.
Becks (35:17):
Yeah, yeah.
Any other thoughts?
I just want to go down our panel here.
I, I
Michelle (35:22):
love that she said that.
I grew up in the same environment where Ifeel like I could just conquer the world.
I think that is such a blessing,but I think of my kids.
One of my daughters is from Ethiopia.
And she was born there and came over here.
And I think about her history, her family,her situation, her hardship just to get to
(35:44):
America and how it is not given everywhereand we need to be mindful of the seat
and the table that we're sitting at.
In this place, daybreak, theUnited States, Utah, it is a very
beautiful table, but we need to bemindful of women all over the world.
We have a program that my daughter and Ihave set up in Ethiopia and because the
(36:07):
women there don't have what we have, andthat is sad in 2024 that there are still
women just suffering and it's a cross.
And so I think we need to be mindful andbe aware of what table we're sitting at.
Becks (36:21):
That's really, really powerful.
And I would love to get that informationand we'll share that on our socials
too, and this podcast goes out.
We'll be sure to link thatat the bottom of our socials.
Thank you.
JC, did you have something as well?
Jaycee (2) (36:33):
I'd like to say ditto.
Yeah.
Drop the mic.
I know.
We and Amber talked about itbefore we got here and it was
kind of like, Oh, this is hard.
Cause like what Amber said, we havegrown up in this kind of fairytale,
little bubble, like she said.
But I think it's so importantthat we do remember.
Our bubble is so small compared.
We talk about overseas, but there's even,like you said, people here in the U S
(36:55):
are definitely limited for being a woman.
I know my cousin who's adopted twokids who this woman is, right here
in America, not, you didn't evenhave to go to Haiti or Ethiopia.
There's.
People here struggling and I,I just so happy to be reminded
of that by you wonderful women.
And yeah, I'm thankful to be here andhave, have to have had you had me here.
(37:16):
So thank you.
Yeah,
Becks (37:17):
thank you.
We appreciate all themessages that you've sent.
That you've shared so thus far.
Sarah, any thoughts?
Sarah (2) (37:25):
One of the quotes that I wanted to share today was from Oprah, and she
said, A queen is not afraid to fail.
Failure is another steppingstone to greatness.
And just remembering that no onehas arrived at the greatness.
It's all a journey that we takeone step at a time each day.
Lifting each other, helping eachother, supporting each other as women.
(37:45):
And honoring each otheras the queens we are.
Becks (37:49):
Oh, I love that.
Absolutely love that.
Gotta love that Oprah.
I don't
Lindsie (37:52):
know if you could top that one.
I
Becks (37:54):
know, right?
Well, you're next, Lindsie.
Well,
Lindsie (37:57):
I don't have a quote, but I did think a lot about like the strong women
like Oprah, Barbara Walters, like a lotof the women that just forged the path.
And I, I'm always inspired by them.
And you think about their storiesand a lot of what they've done is.
Like, they've done it themselves.
They've, they've challenged andstepped above their own limits.
(38:17):
And I think that's really inspirational.
Becks (38:19):
Pushed through that.
Lindsie (38:20):
Yeah.
Yeah.
In spite of anything that anyonetold them they couldn't do.
I love You can't do this becauseyou're a different color.
You can't do this because you're a female.
They were like, Yes, I can.
And they did and it's very inspirational.
Yeah, I
Becks (38:32):
love that too.
One of my favorite mottos and kindof thoughts along those lines is
empowered women empower women.
And it, it really, as we're goingdown the panel and we're listening
that I'm like, yes, yes, yes, yes.
And doesn't it just fill you withthis, we talked about the energy
(38:52):
here and how palpable it is.
Right.
And it's hard not to be overwhelmedwith emotion, but it makes me want.
Want to do even greater things totake that, to take this conversation.
You're birthing babies, you workedin LA and life coaches and Lindsie,
I can't even pronounce like whatyour career is because you're just
so freaking awesome, like what?
(39:14):
You do.
And Jen, of course, with your voice andpodcasting and JC too, like I need to
figure out how to get as many followersas you for one, it's just a powerful
group of women and the things that wecan do when we're helping each other, is
the point that I wanted to bring home.
Jen, what did you have?
Jen Banks (39:30):
Well, I've been thinking a lot about energy and just the
energy that we bring to eachsituation and thinking about this.
energy in the room.
If we could bring that energy tomotherhood, to the world, that's the
kind of energy that will lift others,that will empower us to do what we're
called to do or to help our children.
(39:51):
I feel like that's just, weneed more of that energy.
So the more that we can celebrate women,the more that we can encourage each other,
that will keep that energy moving forward.
Yeah, I love
Becks (40:01):
that.
Any final last thoughts from anybody?
Michelle (40:05):
Yeah, I think what I sense is there's this beautiful quiet confidence.
And I think that's such a giftthat each one of you have.
And because once you sit in that space,I think that's when we don't budge.
on our boundaries, which is justa fancy word for our values.
And if we stand to those values inthat quiet confidence, we become
(40:28):
better mothers, sisters, communities.
And just around here, this is sucha beautiful table, but this quiet
confidence, it's not boastful.
It's not ego.
It's just sitting in yourtalents and your gifts.
And you guys are remarkable andI feel privileged to be here.
Thank you.
Aw, thanks,
Becks (40:46):
Michelle.
Yeah, Amber.
Amber (40:48):
I'm not going to say who it was because that might sway some people's
opinions, but I heard a quote and I'mgoing to paraphrase it because I don't
remember it, but it was basically.
You cannot sit and listen tosomeone's story and get to
know them and hate that person.
You can't sit across from them andlook them in the eye, hear their
story, and then hate that person.
(41:09):
And I just thought that's so true.
Like us as women when we get to knoweach other, when we spend time with each
other, when we hear your story, when wehear your history, when we hear where
you've been and what you've been through.
You can't help but love that person.
And I think that's what we'reexperiencing here as well is that
we're hearing each other's storiesand everyone here is different.
(41:29):
We might look a lot alikebecause some of us are blonde
Becks (41:32):
and some of you are blonde over here in the corner,
Amber (41:36):
but we're not, we're not alike.
And not to judge people, not toimmediately just cast judgment
on someone and get to know thembecause you will love that person.
It's almost impossible
Becks (41:47):
not to.
Yeah.
How powerful that is.
And, I think along those lines iswhen you hear somebody's story, you
can be very empathetic having gonethrough some of those situations or
bits and pieces of that yourself.
Right.
So you become empathetic and we'resympathetic if you can relate, but
(42:09):
haven't necessarily been throughthat same experience, but it.
At the very minimum allows you toget to know them and you can have
compassion for their path because we'reeach on our own different path with
our own backgrounds and situations.
Living here, meeting in thisroom right now, having this
awesome, powerful experience.
(42:29):
And I'm just really incredibly gratefulto each of you for taking the time
to be here and share your messages.
So thank you to you all.
Before we wrap, I do want to get andBlane can edit this part out, but I do
want to get, if there's a, If we canfind you on socials, if you'll just
announce those, like where you, wherewe can find you on your socials so that
(42:50):
we can include them in the podcast.
You can't find me on socials.
I know where to find you.
I don't have any.
Amber (42:57):
Disclaimer, I am not an influencer, but it's at Amber Brooke Bennett.
Becks (43:02):
Okay.
Thank you,
Michelle (43:03):
Amber.
My coaching is Michelle Orton, lowercasereal coaching.com, and I think my handle
on Facebook is Michelle Orton seven.
I don't, I'm not sure.
Do you have your phone?
You can pull it out.
Oh, no.
It's out there.
Okay.
That's okay.
We'll, we'll, we'll, we'll, we'll find,it'll post it, we'll post it at the end.
But I love the story thing that you said.
I think that is so powerful because fromthe beginning of time, that's how people
(43:27):
started to communicate is telling storiesaround a fire, on a wall, on a song.
And you were in the filmindustry and we watch movies.
Stories are powerful and they connect andevery one of us has such a beautiful one.
Don't, don't hide your story.
Share it because it will touchsomebody and that's what's
going to bring us closer.
I think that was such a powerful point.
So thanks for sharing that.
Jaycee (2) (43:48):
Truly.
Amber, along with that, I justwanted to remind everyone that social
media is a highlight reel and todo have connections in real person.
Like, I feel like this today isso amazing because it's in person.
And I think we forget that so muchof things is online these days.
And being in person,there's something about it.
There's true connecting andlearning people's story, social
(44:11):
media is a highlight reel.
And it And what is your social media?
Oh yes.
Social media is at Life of a sister.
And thank you again for having me.
Yeah, thank you.
Sarah (2) (44:22):
My socials are at Made mindful on most of the platforms.
Becks (44:26):
Awesome.
Thank you Sarah.
I know where to find you.
Tell us again, Jen.
Jaycee (2) (44:30):
Yeah, Jen, tell us
Jen Banks (44:32):
a for adversity.com we're at a for adversity.
Becks (44:35):
Awesome.
And did you have any final thoughts asa host that you wanted to share or ask?
No.
Well, again, ladies, I, I do really,I know your time is very valuable.
Each of you are just.
Just amazing at what you do and, andthank you for sharing your, your message
and I think we should do this again.
Mother's Day is coming up, right?
(44:56):
Well, let's all give a
Amber (44:57):
hand to our hosts.
Hostesses Becks and Jen.
Amazing.
Lindsie (45:01):
Thank you.
I think the only edit islike, let's have some Kleenex.
Becks (45:05):
For me, I was gonna text him, but it's been a day.
Blane,
Michelle (45:09):
your wife's in Kleenex,
Jaycee (2) (45:10):
Blane!
Thanks again for Blane from Ride the WaveMedia for producing this podcast episode.
If you want to join the podcastnetwork, I highly recommend it.
You can have your own show andthere's no better network than
this, Ride the Wave Media.
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