What's it like to come out as gay to your twin sister? And what's life like in Arkansas? Meet Pat, a history buff, Park Ranger and 'thespian lesbian' who can share some insight into these questions.
In this episode, she talks to Jess about her upbringing in Texas, what it was like to start a career as a teacher and to also transition out of it, the notion of rainbow flags at work, political neutrality when in uniform, as well as what it was like to come out to her mother and herself.
There are also conversations about allyship, Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs and what this might have to do with coming out, as well as thoughts about the era before 'don't ask - don't tell' in the US military.
Things mentioned in this episode:
Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs; Boston Marriages, Dr. Elizabeth Macmillan (or just Mac)
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