June 12, 2023 • 19 mins
In this episode of "A Letter to My Homegirls," hosts Sydnei and Morgan engage in a lively and thought-provoking discussion about the complexities of feminine masculinity in today's society. With their signature wit and charm, they navigate through the blurred lines of gender roles and share their personal experiences with strong men and the rise of the "sassy" attitude. From exploring the influence of social media to discussing the concept of a "hoe phase," Sydnei and Morgan shed light on the evolving dynamics of relationships and the importance of maintaining a sense of mystery and surprise.
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Morgan Adrine (00:00):
So I said this is a letter to my home girls. So
(00:02):
Sydney before we start, how areyou feeling today on spicy meter
check on a scale CarolinaReaper? The bell pepper, how are
you feeling?
Sydnei Sellers (00:10):
I'm chilling out a cool, maybe little warm
habanero.
Morgan Adrine (00:16):
Hot, but okay. I think I'm up there with you. I'm
at a Thai pepper. Okay, I'mgoing a little spicy. Today
Morg. So once you got why youthought was spicy. Alright, so
Sydnei Sellers (00:28):
let's talk about feminine masculinity. Okay, um,
how in our, in today's society,women are becoming better at
being men than men. Talk aboutit. So what are your sort of
experiences and viewpointsaround this whole? strong woman
(00:50):
movement?
Morgan Adrine (00:52):
Okay. Ask me a more like, detailed sub
question. Okay.
Sydnei Sellers (00:58):
So how do you show up into spaces? As it
relates to strong men? So giveme an example, or your
experiences with a male that youwould consider strong? Like,
(01:19):
what would be
Morgan Adrine (01:21):
my generation?
Yes, I think on that a littlelonger, but to answer your
question, but to answer yourquestion, I don't know. I feel
like my generation is butespecially gender roles are kind
of all mixed up. Like we havemen being sassy. We have women
being overly you want to begangbangers? So I feel like
(01:43):
everybody's confused. And I saythat because, again, my
generation especially, I feellike because social media plays
such a big part of our world.
And then you also hear which I'mall for female rappers, all for
it. But you hear so many femalesbeing so expressive, and how
(02:09):
they talk about whether it betheir bodies, somebody else's
bodies, shooting somebody'sstealing from somebody, you kind
of lose that when you're talkingabout such aggressive things,
you kind of lose the idea ofbeing a soft and sensitive
woman. And then I don't know.
And then you have like, the guysof my generation that I really
(02:33):
feel like they are justconfused. Like, it's, it's
giving sassy, is the best phrasethat I can say.
Sydnei Sellers (02:40):
So explain that word. Okay, so what does it mean
to be sassy?
Morgan Adrine (02:44):
What does it mean to be sassy? Guys nowadays just
have so much attitude, like,
Sydnei Sellers (02:51):
give me an example.
Morgan Adrine (02:53):
They just have so much attitude. And I'll use that
as an example of when it comesto like dating. So I understand
I believe that a guy can be acatch, too. I do believe that.
However, I find my majorproblems in the idea of me as a
woman chasing a man have aproblem with it. Because I feel
(03:20):
like again, a guy can be acatch. However. I don't know. I
just I feel like the role iskind of switch. And these guys
nowadays they want to be theywant to be courted. They want to
be chased. They want to besought after. They want to feel
(03:40):
like they're the prize andthey're the winner, when if
we're really keeping it a buck.
Y'all wouldn't be here if itwasn't for a woman. So should I
be the one sought after?
Sydnei Sellers (03:50):
I feel you Morg.
I feel you. Um, I do think aboutlike the term sassy. Okay, so
there is a little bit of agenerational difference age
difference and like our views,but we have a lot of
commonalities, right. So onething that I've noticed is this
extreme role reversal that'sgoing on in today's society,
(04:11):
okay. Deep breath, because I seeboth sides, right. I see. The
strong woman, this aggressivewoman, this woman that has to
protect herself this woman thattotes a gun, this woman who
stands up for herself, right,this woman who's not gonna take
(04:34):
nothing, right. And I reallylook at instead of looking at
where she is, I look at how shegot there. The same thing with
the guy right who is sassy,right, the one who wants to be
coddled or the one who wants toexpress his feelings the one
who's overly emotional, the onewho wants to be chased. Right,
Morgan Adrine (04:58):
but to add a little more context I don't feel
when I say getting sassy, it hasnothing to do with your
emotional intelligence or yourlevel of vulnerability. So I
don't make that disclaimer, youcan be a vulnerable person, you
can know how to help healthy,communicate your feelings and
(05:18):
not be sassy. So let me justsay, yeah, so let me say that.
It's, again, when we get to thisidea of, it's really just like,
like the chase for me. And andI'm not saying that, you know, a
woman should be chased because Ibelieve there should be a
certain level of effort on bothsides. However, I do feel as if
(05:40):
it's a certain initiative thatshould be taking place, when
typically the dominating role,which has often been the man's
role. Now, I have a strongpersonality always have, I am
all for women carrying guns, I'mall for being strong as black
women, we have to be strong, wehave to know how to hold our
(06:01):
own, we have to have a voice.
I'm all for that. But justbecause I'm a force and the
outside world doesn't mean Iwant to be forced at home to
agree. I definitely. And I feel,again, especially I can only
talk about people of mygeneration, me being 24, I can
only talk about, let's say 23year olds to 31 32, because
(06:21):
that's what I've experienced.
And again, I know everybody isntlike this, but the guys that
I've experienced as somebody whohas a strong personality, they
want you to always have thatstrong personality. And again, I
don't want to lead my householdand my life outside of the
(06:43):
house. So you know what I mean?
Sydnei Sellers (06:45):
I get it, I think too often also has to do
with influences, right? Andlike, what are these individual,
whether it's a male or a femalelooking up to an aspiring after,
right? Like, what type oflifestyle? Do they want to lead
What type of person do they wantto be? Right? So one of my
biggest things is when you areapproached, or you meet
(07:08):
different people, not expectingthem to be anything other than
who they are. Right, right. Solike, this idea of a strong
woman, right? Like, in today'ssociety, I mean, like you said,
I can agree in second that likethat, I'm considered a strong
woman, right? often get thelabel you look very
intimidating,
Morgan Adrine (07:29):
intimidating.
Sydnei Sellers (07:30):
Okay, but still say hi, you know, like, still
say, Hi, it's okay, you canstill, you can still say hi. But
then to that just, I think it'sa mirror reflection of maybe
internal things that that personmay be struggling with, or going
through, right, I
Morgan Adrine (07:46):
completely agree with you. Because I feel like
especially in today's world,women are now more than ever
being business owners beingCEOs, we are running our own
shows, like we're doing our ownstuff, that, again, I often get
the intimidating factor, like asa woman, either I'm not supposed
(08:07):
to be doing something, or maybeI should be doing something less
than you. So your ego makes youfeel like you're doing so much.
Really, you're not right. So notsay like that, but
Sydnei Sellers (08:19):
you gotta be real, because that's what he's
given. Given. So,
Morgan Adrine (08:22):
and again, it's like, I let me say, everybody,
it's not like this. I have metguys that, you know, they don't
let their ego kind of scare themaway. But I've come across more
men that again, they hear, Oh,you're doing this, or you're
doing that, or you're doing thisor not on talk to you. You know
what I mean?
Sydnei Sellers (08:41):
Yeah, the intimidation factor. And then
like I said, it's almost like amirror reflection of the things
that they lack.
Morgan Adrine (08:45):
Right? So then it's like, I have no choice but
to call you sassy because yougive me all this attitude. And
like, Where's this coming from?
Like, given the vibe, divided,it's not vibbing what you say
on the big homie? Becauseyou're,
Sydnei Sellers (08:59):
you're not the little one. Okay.
Morgan Adrine (09:02):
This attitude, like, I'm confused.
Sydnei Sellers (09:05):
Yeah. And then to I guess, also with the
respects of, you know, thestronger woman, like I said,
looking at how she got there.
Right? The dating pool, like, inlayman's terms is pee in it.
Okay, it's contaminated. It'scontaminated. There's right,
there's definitely poop in it.
And I would say, I will go asfar as to say that's more of the
(09:26):
reason why women now have totake this more strong identity
or roll because we when firstapproached, you had the soft
femininity, right? And then youwere met with somebody that took
advantage of that. So in orderto not be in that same space,
Morgan Adrine (09:46):
you have to be stronger. Yeah, you know,
Sydnei Sellers (09:49):
I think it's more aware. Right. So like in a
healthier space, I'm not notdoing the things that I used to
do because I'm trying to takesomething away from somebody
else right. So I'm not hidingwho I truly am. But I know that
there's other ways to be mewithout putting myself in harm's
(10:09):
way. Right? I don't have to giveyou all of me, right for me to
be good enough, right? You know.
So I think that that sometimes,depending on what company you're
in could be this thing whereyou're not being soft, right?
Because you have an opinion,you're too tough, or because you
don't want to do this.
(10:31):
Something's wrong with you,right? So I think that kind of
can take us into this idea oflike a hoe phase, right? So when
you think of dating andunderstanding who you are, what
is your idea of like, the wholephase or the term hoe phase?
What does that mean to you?
Morgan Adrine (10:52):
When I hear somebody say hoe phase like,
either Yeah, I'm going through ahoe phase right now. Or even
I've heard people say, like, youhave to go through a hoe phase
as a woman or some period inyour life, you have to go
through a hoe phase. To me, thatmeans pretty much you being
loosey goosey. Like, you go, youare not having the highest
(11:13):
standard in regards to who youare sharing your physical body
with you are there's nocriteria, if there is criteria
is slim to none. So again,you're just being very free
spirited with who you allow inyour physical and spiritual
energy. Because your yourphysical and your spirit are
tied together. So you're justbeing loose, who you let in your
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energy. And I don't know, I feellike, I don't feel like you have
to go through some type of hoephase. But I feel like in our
world today. And I don't want tosay being a hoe is glorified.
But essentially, that's what itis. Because when you turn on the
radio, and you hear scratch whatthe guys are talking about,
(11:57):
because we know what they'retalking about, right? You hear
what the females are talkingabout? Were they talking about?
Shaking a body parts, likekeeping the G rated, shaking the
body parts, doing whatever usinga body to trick who out of
whatever? Yeah, isn't thatessentially like being hoe? Or
do we want to call it somethingelse? Well,
Sydnei Sellers (12:15):
I think we often categorize that and like,
expressing who we are sexuallyright. So like, it's this idea
that we hide that part of who weare, and like a sexual explore
raishin of ourselves is would begathered in that
Morgan Adrine (12:37):
unit. That idea, you know, what I appreciate
about the generation before us,not you, not you, the generation
before us is that there was ohgeez, the OGS there was a sense
of like, mysterious mystery.
Yeah, I can get my words out.
There was a mystery. Like youdidn't have to show everything
(13:00):
to everybody, right? Like youwant it to build up that element
of surprise. Thank you. You wantit to build up that surprise,
even when it comes to just likeour media like our TV now to see
a sexy no television, we don'tthink twice about it. We've
become so desensitized to seeingsomebody gets shot on TV,
whether it's for a player,whether it's through, we've
become so desensitized to sexscenes on TV, we become so
(13:23):
desensitized to a lot that if wewere to go 20 years, 30 years
back, if you were to even kisson television, it was like,
Whoa, like this is right at ourif you were to even like it was
again, it was the element ofsurprise. I feel like we as
women still need to have elementof surprise, you can still be
whatever you want to be youstill be a hot girl, city girl.
(13:44):
Everybody doesn't have to knowwhat your body looks like, or
quote unquote, feels likeeverybody don't need to know
that.
Sydnei Sellers (13:51):
I agree. I agree. Again, I think it goes to
like, I guess the influencesthat we have out there, right? I
think I was talking to somebodytoday. And I was saying, like,
your generation or like,currently, there isn't any
example of necessarily a Classyor a young woman in the music
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industry, right. Like not tosuggest that everybody's
perfect, right? Because even thebest of the best the people we
love most like Beyonce. Right?
Right. They had their issues.
Right. But like you said,there's still a level of
Mysteria like there's, there'sstill a level of class that we
as a society, we don't have, wedon't have and then also, I feel
(14:37):
like women like me and youright, who don't choose to be
sexual
Morgan Adrine (14:43):
or don't act like damn ostriches walking down the
sidewalk.
Sydnei Sellers (14:47):
Like you're weird. Obviously, something's
wrong with you by and I don'tthink that that's fair. And I
think it's mostly because if youturn left or you turn, right,
everybody's naked Right, andthen it's, it's wrapped up in
this idea that it's my body, Ican do whatever I want to do,
which is true, but I think thatit should be done. Everything
(15:11):
should be done with a level ofclass. And I think we're missing
that part. And women who chooseto cover themselves up or not be
as expressive are not looked atin the same vein as a woman who
may have a little bit more sexappeal I think our society is
(15:31):
getting a little bit furtheraway from that, and I don't like
it to be honest, I don't like itbecause for me I didn't have a
hoe phase I don't necessarilyagree with the the terminology
hoe phase I think again,everybody should carry
themselves in a light that bestsuits who they are and if they
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have some sort of higher poweror religious belief that they
have is conducive to that typeof walk of life. But demon are
suggesting that you have to havethis many bodies to be deemed a
pro or active or experienced isweird. Because I've I had
somebody tell asked me not onlythey felt like if I if I didn't
(16:16):
have this amount of bodies, thenI wasn't experienced. And I just
was like, What I remember a timewhere you be happy, okay? You
should be happy like but it'sjust the way the world is going.
And I think one of my fears isyouth young women not having a
place to feel safe you know,
Morgan Adrine (16:37):
and I feel like the hoe phase also kind of ties
into the whole again I'm I'mgonna keep saying it. Men Men
sassy because if you if you as aman like and some of y'all got a
real good right now becausey'all can just blink and you got
anybody you want at your footwilling to do whatever you sayF
you say jump they say how highso it's also like how can we
(17:01):
expect our guys who want to dobetter or our guys to be better
when we're out here doing well?
We all here just doing whateverliterally, literally? Listen,
I'm all about some women thatwill won't ask any questions.
You want me to do this? Okay?
Like hello mom. Like cuz youmaking me look bad now? No,
(17:21):
because he thinks that justbecause you did XYZ to I'm gonna
do XYZ. Baby. Don't even ask meto do the X before you can push
me. Listen, I will send this out
Sydnei Sellers (17:32):
and guess what?
I'm not past having a sim orsomebody now. I'm not past it.
So you can bring it over here ifyou want to. Right and I'm gonna
just have to politely tell youthat it's not that you know what
I'm saying? So
Morgan Adrine (17:44):
we just got to tighten up,
Sydnei Sellers (17:46):
tighten up, tighten.
Morgan Adrine (17:48):
All right. PS ladies, tighten everything,
everything.
Sydnei Sellers (17:56):
Right and it's okay to express yourselves.
We'll make sure that it you aregenuinely authentically being
true to who you are and is notinfluenced by anybody else.
Morgan Adrine (18:07):
Facts
So I said this is a letter to my home girls. So
(00:02):
Sydney before we start, how areyou feeling today on spicy meter
check on a scale CarolinaReaper? The bell pepper, how are
you feeling?
Sydnei Sellers (00:10):
I'm chilling out a cool, maybe little warm
habanero.
Morgan Adrine (00:16):
Hot, but okay. I think I'm up there with you. I'm
at a Thai pepper. Okay, I'mgoing a little spicy. Today
Morg. So once you got why youthought was spicy. Alright, so
Sydnei Sellers (00:28):
let's talk about feminine masculinity. Okay, um,
how in our, in today's society,women are becoming better at
being men than men. Talk aboutit. So what are your sort of
experiences and viewpointsaround this whole? strong woman
(00:50):
movement?
Morgan Adrine (00:52):
Okay. Ask me a more like, detailed sub
question. Okay.
Sydnei Sellers (00:58):
So how do you show up into spaces? As it
relates to strong men? So giveme an example, or your
experiences with a male that youwould consider strong? Like,
(01:19):
what would be
Morgan Adrine (01:21):
my generation?
Yes, I think on that a littlelonger, but to answer your
question, but to answer yourquestion, I don't know. I feel
like my generation is butespecially gender roles are kind
of all mixed up. Like we havemen being sassy. We have women
being overly you want to begangbangers? So I feel like
(01:43):
everybody's confused. And I saythat because, again, my
generation especially, I feellike because social media plays
such a big part of our world.
And then you also hear which I'mall for female rappers, all for
it. But you hear so many femalesbeing so expressive, and how
(02:09):
they talk about whether it betheir bodies, somebody else's
bodies, shooting somebody'sstealing from somebody, you kind
of lose that when you're talkingabout such aggressive things,
you kind of lose the idea ofbeing a soft and sensitive
woman. And then I don't know.
And then you have like, the guysof my generation that I really
(02:33):
feel like they are justconfused. Like, it's, it's
giving sassy, is the best phrasethat I can say.
Sydnei Sellers (02:40):
So explain that word. Okay, so what does it mean
to be sassy?
Morgan Adrine (02:44):
What does it mean to be sassy? Guys nowadays just
have so much attitude, like,
Sydnei Sellers (02:51):
give me an example.
Morgan Adrine (02:53):
They just have so much attitude. And I'll use that
as an example of when it comesto like dating. So I understand
I believe that a guy can be acatch, too. I do believe that.
However, I find my majorproblems in the idea of me as a
woman chasing a man have aproblem with it. Because I feel
(03:20):
like again, a guy can be acatch. However. I don't know. I
just I feel like the role iskind of switch. And these guys
nowadays they want to be theywant to be courted. They want to
be chased. They want to besought after. They want to feel
(03:40):
like they're the prize andthey're the winner, when if
we're really keeping it a buck.
Y'all wouldn't be here if itwasn't for a woman. So should I
be the one sought after?
Sydnei Sellers (03:50):
I feel you Morg.
I feel you. Um, I do think aboutlike the term sassy. Okay, so
there is a little bit of agenerational difference age
difference and like our views,but we have a lot of
commonalities, right. So onething that I've noticed is this
extreme role reversal that'sgoing on in today's society,
(04:11):
okay. Deep breath, because I seeboth sides, right. I see. The
strong woman, this aggressivewoman, this woman that has to
protect herself this woman thattotes a gun, this woman who
stands up for herself, right,this woman who's not gonna take
(04:34):
nothing, right. And I reallylook at instead of looking at
where she is, I look at how shegot there. The same thing with
the guy right who is sassy,right, the one who wants to be
coddled or the one who wants toexpress his feelings the one
who's overly emotional, the onewho wants to be chased. Right,
Morgan Adrine (04:58):
but to add a little more context I don't feel
when I say getting sassy, it hasnothing to do with your
emotional intelligence or yourlevel of vulnerability. So I
don't make that disclaimer, youcan be a vulnerable person, you
can know how to help healthy,communicate your feelings and
(05:18):
not be sassy. So let me justsay, yeah, so let me say that.
It's, again, when we get to thisidea of, it's really just like,
like the chase for me. And andI'm not saying that, you know, a
woman should be chased because Ibelieve there should be a
certain level of effort on bothsides. However, I do feel as if
(05:40):
it's a certain initiative thatshould be taking place, when
typically the dominating role,which has often been the man's
role. Now, I have a strongpersonality always have, I am
all for women carrying guns, I'mall for being strong as black
women, we have to be strong, wehave to know how to hold our
(06:01):
own, we have to have a voice.
I'm all for that. But justbecause I'm a force and the
outside world doesn't mean Iwant to be forced at home to
agree. I definitely. And I feel,again, especially I can only
talk about people of mygeneration, me being 24, I can
only talk about, let's say 23year olds to 31 32, because
(06:21):
that's what I've experienced.
And again, I know everybody isntlike this, but the guys that
I've experienced as somebody whohas a strong personality, they
want you to always have thatstrong personality. And again, I
don't want to lead my householdand my life outside of the
(06:43):
house. So you know what I mean?
Sydnei Sellers (06:45):
I get it, I think too often also has to do
with influences, right? Andlike, what are these individual,
whether it's a male or a femalelooking up to an aspiring after,
right? Like, what type oflifestyle? Do they want to lead
What type of person do they wantto be? Right? So one of my
biggest things is when you areapproached, or you meet
(07:08):
different people, not expectingthem to be anything other than
who they are. Right, right. Solike, this idea of a strong
woman, right? Like, in today'ssociety, I mean, like you said,
I can agree in second that likethat, I'm considered a strong
woman, right? often get thelabel you look very
intimidating,
Morgan Adrine (07:29):
intimidating.
Sydnei Sellers (07:30):
Okay, but still say hi, you know, like, still
say, Hi, it's okay, you canstill, you can still say hi. But
then to that just, I think it'sa mirror reflection of maybe
internal things that that personmay be struggling with, or going
through, right, I
Morgan Adrine (07:46):
completely agree with you. Because I feel like
especially in today's world,women are now more than ever
being business owners beingCEOs, we are running our own
shows, like we're doing our ownstuff, that, again, I often get
the intimidating factor, like asa woman, either I'm not supposed
(08:07):
to be doing something, or maybeI should be doing something less
than you. So your ego makes youfeel like you're doing so much.
Really, you're not right. So notsay like that, but
Sydnei Sellers (08:19):
you gotta be real, because that's what he's
given. Given. So,
Morgan Adrine (08:22):
and again, it's like, I let me say, everybody,
it's not like this. I have metguys that, you know, they don't
let their ego kind of scare themaway. But I've come across more
men that again, they hear, Oh,you're doing this, or you're
doing that, or you're doing thisor not on talk to you. You know
what I mean?
Sydnei Sellers (08:41):
Yeah, the intimidation factor. And then
like I said, it's almost like amirror reflection of the things
that they lack.
Morgan Adrine (08:45):
Right? So then it's like, I have no choice but
to call you sassy because yougive me all this attitude. And
like, Where's this coming from?
Like, given the vibe, divided,it's not vibbing what you say
on the big homie? Becauseyou're,
Sydnei Sellers (08:59):
you're not the little one. Okay.
Morgan Adrine (09:02):
This attitude, like, I'm confused.
Sydnei Sellers (09:05):
Yeah. And then to I guess, also with the
respects of, you know, thestronger woman, like I said,
looking at how she got there.
Right? The dating pool, like, inlayman's terms is pee in it.
Okay, it's contaminated. It'scontaminated. There's right,
there's definitely poop in it.
And I would say, I will go asfar as to say that's more of the
(09:26):
reason why women now have totake this more strong identity
or roll because we when firstapproached, you had the soft
femininity, right? And then youwere met with somebody that took
advantage of that. So in orderto not be in that same space,
Morgan Adrine (09:46):
you have to be stronger. Yeah, you know,
Sydnei Sellers (09:49):
I think it's more aware. Right. So like in a
healthier space, I'm not notdoing the things that I used to
do because I'm trying to takesomething away from somebody
else right. So I'm not hidingwho I truly am. But I know that
there's other ways to be mewithout putting myself in harm's
(10:09):
way. Right? I don't have to giveyou all of me, right for me to
be good enough, right? You know.
So I think that that sometimes,depending on what company you're
in could be this thing whereyou're not being soft, right?
Because you have an opinion,you're too tough, or because you
don't want to do this.
(10:31):
Something's wrong with you,right? So I think that kind of
can take us into this idea oflike a hoe phase, right? So when
you think of dating andunderstanding who you are, what
is your idea of like, the wholephase or the term hoe phase?
What does that mean to you?
Morgan Adrine (10:52):
When I hear somebody say hoe phase like,
either Yeah, I'm going through ahoe phase right now. Or even
I've heard people say, like, youhave to go through a hoe phase
as a woman or some period inyour life, you have to go
through a hoe phase. To me, thatmeans pretty much you being
loosey goosey. Like, you go, youare not having the highest
(11:13):
standard in regards to who youare sharing your physical body
with you are there's nocriteria, if there is criteria
is slim to none. So again,you're just being very free
spirited with who you allow inyour physical and spiritual
energy. Because your yourphysical and your spirit are
tied together. So you're justbeing loose, who you let in your
(11:37):
energy. And I don't know, I feellike, I don't feel like you have
to go through some type of hoephase. But I feel like in our
world today. And I don't want tosay being a hoe is glorified.
But essentially, that's what itis. Because when you turn on the
radio, and you hear scratch whatthe guys are talking about,
(11:57):
because we know what they'retalking about, right? You hear
what the females are talkingabout? Were they talking about?
Shaking a body parts, likekeeping the G rated, shaking the
body parts, doing whatever usinga body to trick who out of
whatever? Yeah, isn't thatessentially like being hoe? Or
do we want to call it somethingelse? Well,
Sydnei Sellers (12:15):
I think we often categorize that and like,
expressing who we are sexuallyright. So like, it's this idea
that we hide that part of who weare, and like a sexual explore
raishin of ourselves is would begathered in that
Morgan Adrine (12:37):
unit. That idea, you know, what I appreciate
about the generation before us,not you, not you, the generation
before us is that there was ohgeez, the OGS there was a sense
of like, mysterious mystery.
Yeah, I can get my words out.
There was a mystery. Like youdidn't have to show everything
(13:00):
to everybody, right? Like youwant it to build up that element
of surprise. Thank you. You wantit to build up that surprise,
even when it comes to just likeour media like our TV now to see
a sexy no television, we don'tthink twice about it. We've
become so desensitized to seeingsomebody gets shot on TV,
whether it's for a player,whether it's through, we've
become so desensitized to sexscenes on TV, we become so
(13:23):
desensitized to a lot that if wewere to go 20 years, 30 years
back, if you were to even kisson television, it was like,
Whoa, like this is right at ourif you were to even like it was
again, it was the element ofsurprise. I feel like we as
women still need to have elementof surprise, you can still be
whatever you want to be youstill be a hot girl, city girl.
(13:44):
Everybody doesn't have to knowwhat your body looks like, or
quote unquote, feels likeeverybody don't need to know
that.
Sydnei Sellers (13:51):
I agree. I agree. Again, I think it goes to
like, I guess the influencesthat we have out there, right? I
think I was talking to somebodytoday. And I was saying, like,
your generation or like,currently, there isn't any
example of necessarily a Classyor a young woman in the music
(14:16):
industry, right. Like not tosuggest that everybody's
perfect, right? Because even thebest of the best the people we
love most like Beyonce. Right?
Right. They had their issues.
Right. But like you said,there's still a level of
Mysteria like there's, there'sstill a level of class that we
as a society, we don't have, wedon't have and then also, I feel
(14:37):
like women like me and youright, who don't choose to be
sexual
Morgan Adrine (14:43):
or don't act like damn ostriches walking down the
sidewalk.
Sydnei Sellers (14:47):
Like you're weird. Obviously, something's
wrong with you by and I don'tthink that that's fair. And I
think it's mostly because if youturn left or you turn, right,
everybody's naked Right, andthen it's, it's wrapped up in
this idea that it's my body, Ican do whatever I want to do,
which is true, but I think thatit should be done. Everything
(15:11):
should be done with a level ofclass. And I think we're missing
that part. And women who chooseto cover themselves up or not be
as expressive are not looked atin the same vein as a woman who
may have a little bit more sexappeal I think our society is
(15:31):
getting a little bit furtheraway from that, and I don't like
it to be honest, I don't like itbecause for me I didn't have a
hoe phase I don't necessarilyagree with the the terminology
hoe phase I think again,everybody should carry
themselves in a light that bestsuits who they are and if they
(15:53):
have some sort of higher poweror religious belief that they
have is conducive to that typeof walk of life. But demon are
suggesting that you have to havethis many bodies to be deemed a
pro or active or experienced isweird. Because I've I had
somebody tell asked me not onlythey felt like if I if I didn't
(16:16):
have this amount of bodies, thenI wasn't experienced. And I just
was like, What I remember a timewhere you be happy, okay? You
should be happy like but it'sjust the way the world is going.
And I think one of my fears isyouth young women not having a
place to feel safe you know,
Morgan Adrine (16:37):
and I feel like the hoe phase also kind of ties
into the whole again I'm I'mgonna keep saying it. Men Men
sassy because if you if you as aman like and some of y'all got a
real good right now becausey'all can just blink and you got
anybody you want at your footwilling to do whatever you sayF
you say jump they say how highso it's also like how can we
(17:01):
expect our guys who want to dobetter or our guys to be better
when we're out here doing well?
We all here just doing whateverliterally, literally? Listen,
I'm all about some women thatwill won't ask any questions.
You want me to do this? Okay?
Like hello mom. Like cuz youmaking me look bad now? No,
(17:21):
because he thinks that justbecause you did XYZ to I'm gonna
do XYZ. Baby. Don't even ask meto do the X before you can push
me. Listen, I will send this out
Sydnei Sellers (17:32):
and guess what?
I'm not past having a sim orsomebody now. I'm not past it.
So you can bring it over here ifyou want to. Right and I'm gonna
just have to politely tell youthat it's not that you know what
I'm saying? So
Morgan Adrine (17:44):
we just got to tighten up,
Sydnei Sellers (17:46):
tighten up, tighten.
Morgan Adrine (17:48):
All right. PS ladies, tighten everything,
everything.
Sydnei Sellers (17:56):
Right and it's okay to express yourselves.
We'll make sure that it you aregenuinely authentically being
true to who you are and is notinfluenced by anybody else.
Morgan Adrine (18:07):
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