Beatboxer Tyler “TylaDubya” Weisbeck: Exploring Music’s Powerful Influence

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I had a friend of mine who was like, dude, check
out this beatbox cover I can do.
And you know, at the time Ididn't know, I didn't know
anything about beatboxing, likeabsolutely nothing.
My knowledge of beatboxing wasprobably like boots and cats,
like not much past that.
And he came in and he did likelike a really basic, like not,
that was probably even morecomplex than what he showed me

(00:21):
Right and immediately I.
Even more complex than what heshowed me right and immediately
I was like holy shit, wait, Ilistened to the black eyed peas
and I like that which I.
The black eyed peas were thething I listened to when I was
younger.
Um, I don't know why, but I did.
Um, and I was.
I was like I need toimmediately learn this.
I also I didn't even know youcould do that with your mouth,
and so then I immediately wentto youtube and started looking

(00:43):
up everything about beatboxingthat night.

Speaker 2 (01:23):
Hey, everybody, welcome to A Life in Six Songs,
where, on each episode, weembark on an epic trip with our
guests to find the songs thatare stuck to us like audible
tattoos, that tell the story ofwho we are and where we've been,
to help us figure out wherewe're going.
It's a life story told throughsix songs.
I'm your host, David Reese, andI'm joined by my co-host,

(01:44):
Carolina and Raza.
Hey, hey, Hello.
On this show.
We come to these conversationswith love, kindness and
curiosity to counter theprevalence of hate, anger and
judgment we see in the world.
Our guiding view with a nod toTed Lasso is be curious, not
judgmental.
Our goal is that by listeningto these stories, you can bring

(02:05):
more love, kindness andcuriosity into your own life.
With that, let's go have alisten together.
Our guest today is TylerWeisbeck, better known as
beatboxer Tyler W.
Tyler began beatboxing in 2010and since then has competed in
international beatbox battles,performed in an acapella group
and developed a large socialmedia following as a content

(02:27):
creator, he focuses on both theeducation of and entertainment
with the art of beatboxing.
Tyler, welcome to A Life in SixSongs.
Hi, thank you for having meAppreciate it.
Yeah, we're excited to have youhere so to just kick us off
before we get into your actualsix songs that are going to tell
your story.
We'd just like to warm up withkind of a general question to

(02:47):
kind of set the stage, you know.
So if you could just tell us alittle bit, you know, how do you
see music fitting into yourlife?
What role does music play inyour life?

Speaker 1 (02:57):
I mean, okay, so because I'm a beatboxer, music
is everything, right.
I just, you know, I beatbox 247, so I'm always surrounded by
music, whether I am listening toit or I am, just, you know,
performing it, and I feel likeit's kind of shaped every
element of my life in thatrespect, because it's like I met
my wife through music, becausewe were in an acapella group,

(03:17):
you know, and just because ofbeatboxing that got me to the
acapella group in the firstplace.
There's a whole, there's awhole like bunch of story with
that stuff.
But I just feel like everyaspect of music has just shaped
my life in that regard and it'skind of hard not for it to when,
again, as a beatboxer, I'mhearing music in my head 24,
seven.
So then I beatbox it.

(03:38):
So I don't know if that was a,if I described it enough, but I
feel like that's the answer.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
Yeah, you know, and I think you said it great, you
know, because for some peoplemusic may not be their life in
the sense of it, as it is likefor you.
They're maybe not a musician ora beatboxer or something like
that, but it still has a strongpart of their life in that way,
and so we always like to justask that question, because it
sort of lets people kind ofshare, like, oh, they might be a

(04:04):
lawyer by trade Raza, but youknow, music is still a huge part
of our life.
But yeah, I think you know yousaid it great of just yeah, it
is your life in that, in thatway.
So which is also why we'reexcited to have you on the show.
So, yeah, we're gonna pass itover to Carolina.
Who's gonna get us going withyour first question and first
song?

Speaker 3 (04:26):
We're going to pass it over to Carolina.
Who's going to get us goingwith your first question and
first song?
All right, I think let's startat the beginning, right?
Young growing up parents.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
What's a song that reminds you of your parents?
So there's like general genres,but I feel like if I was to
pick a song, I'd probably saylike In the Air Tonight by Phil
Collins, because like PhilCollins is like one of my mom's
like favorite artists and I feellike she does.
She's not like heavy into music, right, no-transcript

(05:11):
television, like there was thesechannels in like the 9000s or
the 900s, some like ridiculousnumber that no one ever uses,
and it would just play music onloop.
It was just like, I guess, likea station for TV and she would
always put on this like easylistening, like early, like I
don't know, like I don't knowwhat year decade Phil Collins
was specifically, but whateveryou know decade that was, and it

(05:32):
would just like play all thatmusic on loop.
I specifically just rememberthis song, I don't know why, I
just stuck out and she reallyliked Phil Collins.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
Here we go Phil Collins in the air tonight.
Such a great song it really is.

(05:59):
I'm so, so happy we got thissong on the show.
You know there's these kinds ofsongs that have been, you know,
in episodes we've done, whereI'm like, yes, this is a song
that needs to be on a show wherewe're talking about people's
lives and music, cause it's,this is a song that's in
everyone's life, I think in someway.
If you've been in the live 30,40 years somehow you have some

(06:20):
memory connected to this song?
Um, yeah, so tell, tell us moreabout you know growing up with
music.
Was it a musical household?

Speaker 1 (06:28):
no, um, no, I would honestly say no, um.
Growing up, it's like funnybecause, like I wanted to, there
was periods of my life where Iwanted to learn to play drums,
or I wanted to learn to playguitar, and I went through these
like interests, but then myparents were like, oh, you'll
get bored in 10 seconds, so theynever bought it for me, so I
never got the opportunity to dothat, right?
Um, and so that's eventuallywhy I started beatboxing, right,

(06:49):
because I don't need aninstrument, I could just do that
it's my own.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
You are the instrument.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
Yeah, exactly uh prior to that, I tried to learn
how to scream.
That didn't go very well.
I need to.
I need to actually follow up onthat and learn how to scream
properly, but um are therebeatbox screamers out there?
are there, like heavy metalbeatboxers, that kind of work,
that in there is one that I'mfamiliar with I forgot what
country is from where I've heardthem use screaming vocals in

(07:15):
their beats before.
Um, I mean, there's a lot ofstuff that we do that isn't like
I guess metal screams like Ikind of incorporate one
something I do.
It's I learned, I learned itfrom like a I got inspired from
bring me the horizon.
There was like a thing they didin one of the really old albums
where there was like Istuttered, like a scream and it
was sick, and so I use that oneof my things.
I think, beatboxers in general,we do a lot of like basis

(07:37):
anyways.
Like yeah, we're already kindof doing vocal techniques like
that and some people just pushit to different levels.
But I haven't heard a whole lotof like metal scream, which is
why I want to learn and likeincorporate it myself, to be
crazy.
But to circle that back togrowing up with music, I get
sidetracked really quickly.
You'll pick up on that and I'lljust yap forever, no worries.

(07:57):
So we like to say, hey, we havethe songs and that gives us our
structure, and then we just,wherever the conversation goes,
it goes so I think, aside frommy mom just constantly playing
those easy listening channels on, you know, tv, um, I feel like,
outside of that, like my dadalways played classic rock in
the cars.
It was always again, it was thesame like radio stations that
would loop the same songs onrepeat, but he was like a huge

(08:19):
classic rock guy.
But I feel like that, at theextent of that, there wasn't a
whole lot of like music that I'mlike aware of.
Um, that I'm thinking aboutright now.
That's kind of why, again, whyI started beatboxing, because I
just I don't need an instrument,yeah, yeah it sounds like that
old saying of uh, uh, what is it?

Speaker 4 (08:37):
necessity is the mother of all invention.
Right, something, something tothat effect it's like you, you
wanted drums, you know, and and,um, for whatever reason you
know, the folks were like no,it's too loud, too expensive.
Whatever the case might be, Ithink that's what it was right,
yeah, and you went around likeyou know what I'm gonna do this
shit anyway, I'm gonna figureout a way and the way is

(08:58):
beatboxing.
Yeah, I wasn't like I guess.

Speaker 1 (09:01):
I guess that wasn't the reason why I started
beatboxing.
But we'll get to that in a bit.
But it just I guess I kind ofjust fell into like the trope of
like yeah, because I didn'thave an instrument, so then just
kind of worked out, but yeah,yeah yeah, but it sounds like
what you were saying, like youwanted to play drums, you wanted
to play guitar.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
You, you had a musical interest early on.

Speaker 1 (09:18):
That is true, like you were interested in music?

Speaker 3 (09:20):
yeah, that is definitely true I think this
song too, like like david said,you know it's, it's a part of so
many of our childhoods.
But like this is this song evenlives on today, like you'll
hear it in music, I mean, you'llhear it in movies, you'll hear
it in commercials, you'rehearing it and then, as I was
listening to you playing theclip, david, I was remembering
that it's like in reels.
Now you know it gets to the tothe part of the drum fill and

(09:44):
it'll be like somebody fallinglike making noises like hitting
things on the way down.
I've seen those, yeah, so it'slike it just keeps living on in
iterations yeah, yeah, for sure,it's so good you know, phil
collins son now plays in hislive band and there's clips of
him.

Speaker 4 (10:03):
You know, learning that iconic phil from phil, not
to use that pun drum, phil.
Oh, it's about to get so, sonerdy but, yeah, I mean talk
about generational, you know, umconnections there.
Yeah, this is just one of thosesongs that just keeps living
and watching his son playing hisfather's iconic you, you know

(10:25):
song and drum fill andeverything it's it's.
It's certainly, you know, oneone generation you know, added
on now.

Speaker 3 (10:31):
So I'll I'll say I've shared before.
I saw Phil Collins as a kid inconcert and it was one of the
best concerts still today andI've ever seen.
It was like a rotating circularstage and at one point he gave
the whole band like a break andthen he went around to every
single instrument and playedlike a solo.
That's wow it was the coolestthing I had ever seen as a kid

(10:53):
and still to this day like, yeah, he was just, he was awesome
amazing.

Speaker 1 (10:58):
Honestly, it's so impressive when people could
play multiple instruments like I.
I honestly I've tried to pickup guitar once or twice since
and I haven't like, fullydedicated myself to it.
But to be able to play likemultiple instruments, that's
wild.
Like that's just impressive.

Speaker 3 (11:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (11:12):
Yeah, it requires like completely different parts
of the brain too.
Like you know what it takes todo drums versus you know piano
or keyboards and then otherstringed instruments, and then
you've got like brass and it's.
It's completely different, youknow.
I mean, I know I'll speak formyself.
I can you guys see some guitarsback there.
I can do that, but I couldn'tplay keyboards or piano to save

(11:36):
my life.
But and then, and then, it'salways amazing for me to to see
people that are using multiplehands to do like a bass part on
one hand and the melody part onthe on, on, on, on, on, on the
other hand.
It's, it's crazy, it's awesomeyeah.

Speaker 2 (11:53):
Yeah, in some ways too, it's like.
It's like the physical bodilyability, right.
It's like what they talk aboutwith language, right, If you
don't learn a certain languagelike if, like, I speak a little
bit of Spanish, right, but Ididn't learn Spanish when I was
young and so I will always havean accent with it and there'll
be certain sounds I can't makewith my mouth unless I, like I'd

(12:15):
have to really really train,train, train, train, train.
But it's just because my mouthhas grown up to not make those
sounds.
And so I think it's similarwith with instruments in ways,
because, like I know, with me asa drummer, I can get my four
limbs going all different kindsof ways, but my individual
fingers not so much, right.
So it's this shift like havingto do guitar is like so, so

(12:36):
difficult in ways.
I wonder, tyler too, with, like, beatboxing, like you clearly
are skilled with making musicand incredible sounds with your
mouth, do you think you could bea singer, like, would that
translate, or is it completelydifferent speaking english to
spanish or something?

Speaker 1 (12:55):
okay, so a few things , few things.
One, um, singing is completelydifferent.
Uh, I, in my, in my opinion,I'm not a very good singer,
right, I've never trained in it,I've never done anything with
that.
If I could learn to sing so manythings in my beatboxing, sound
palette would improve becausethere's so many sounds that need
to be pitched and need to becontrolled pitched and if you

(13:17):
can sing right, that's justgoing to be improved completely.
And there are many beatboxersout there that are very talented
singers and because of that,like they can create more full
compositions in a differentstyle that I can't do so like.
I typically focus more on like,like hardcore dubstep, edm
stuff, because I'm not asconfident in my singing

(13:37):
abilities, right, where, if Iwas to get on the stage and
perform, I feel like it's justmaybe it's more of a confidence
issue with that, right, um, sure, that's why I'll stick more to
like the powerful stuff that Iknow that I can do.
Meanwhile, other beatboxers cango on there, sing and then they
can like pitch all their basesand everything properly and it's
so.
Yeah, um, I don't think theycorrelate necessarily.
I think they're too completely.

(13:58):
I think they work well together.
I think they're two differentthings, um, and I feel like a
lot of people might disagreewith that in the beatboxing
community Because I there.
To me it's like singing is adifferent aspect than beatboxing
, even though they kind of gohand in hand, if that makes
sense, sure.

Speaker 2 (14:15):
And there's probably different opinions, like you
said.
You know, just like in anycommunity, drummers or
guitarists or painters orwhatever, like someone who might
be more of a you know, I don'tknow the exact terminology, but
a singing beatboxer, right, whatyou described there that has
that ability, might see them asmore in line, right, because
that's their experience, right.

(14:36):
So it's kind of that thing ofwhat your experience is.

Speaker 1 (14:40):
And what you were talking about too.
You're talking about in termsof like, age and learning,
specific languages and stufflike.
It's actually interesting whenyou actually look at beatboxing,
where even beatboxers becausebeatboxing is like a worldwide
thing, like I can point outbeatboxes from like every
country, but like from eachcountry depending on, like,
maybe certain language, um,likes, I guess, specifics, right
like their beatbox and theymight have different sounds.

(15:01):
That like are oh surerepresentative of their language
and how they talk, and I thinkthat's really interesting.
I don't have specific examplesoff top my head, but like I do
know I've seen some beatboxesfrom different countries and I'm
like, oh shit, that's like anormal thing, like your language
, but it's like.
It's like, I guess, easier tolearn for beatboxing where it
might not be as easy forsomebody else, right, where,
right, their language doesn'tutilize that certain, like I

(15:22):
don't know, tongue formation orsome shit sure, right, totally.

Speaker 3 (15:25):
Like you know, I'm a native spanish speaker.
Um, and we we like literallyone of the letters of our
alphabet are two r's, rightwhere we roll our r's, it's not
a common sound uh right inenglish, but so that probably
yeah, would translate intobeatboxing no, no, very much so.

Speaker 1 (15:41):
Like I mean, for one of the sounds that I'm more
known for is rolling r's right,but in like more exaggerated
tones.
So it's like not like it's likelike rolling r's, it's more,
it's like you're really pushingout the r, but like when you try
to explain rolling r's, like ifyou were a native spanish
speaker you'd be like oh done,easy, cool I don't need to
explain that I get it you knowwhat I mean right.

Speaker 2 (16:01):
If you were to teach us right now, carolina would
probably pick up that sound.
Yes, easier than probably,because I can't roll my r's in
spanish.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
Yeah, right and so so that I guess that's my point.
It's like I guess that was areally good emphasis and great
pull on that, um so, yeah, Ithink I think that's.
That's what's interesting aboutbeatboxing a little bit.
It's just because it does spanso many nationalities and
ethnicities and everything whereit's just like you see so much
variance, right that's awesome.

Speaker 3 (16:30):
All right, um, let's move on to your next song.
Um, talking about like newperspectives, as we're talking
about like internationalinfluences, you know that can
give you new perspectives aswell.
So, for this next song, what isa song that opened you up to an
entirely new perspective?

Speaker 1 (16:47):
all right, that one, that one's easy.
It's just gonna fan intoeverything we just said, um, and
it's not gonna make sense whenI say that's why it's gonna take
a little bit of an explanation,but it is, uh, my humps by the
black eyed peas and for a littlecontext here, because that's

(17:08):
not something you normally thinkto open up your eyes to a new
perspective, right?
Um, it was junior yearchemistry class in high school,
so 2010 and I had a friend ofmine who was like dude, check
out this beatbox cover I can do.
And you know, at the time Ididn't know.
I didn't know anything aboutbeatboxing, like absolutely
nothing.
My knowledge of beatboxing wasprobably like boots and cats,

(17:29):
like not much past that.
And he came in and he did likelike a really basic, like not,
that was probably even morecomplex than what he showed me.
Right, and immediately I waslike holy shit, wait, I listened
to the black eyed peas and Ilike that which I, a black eyed
peas, were a thing I listened towhen I was younger.
Um, I don't know why, but I did, um, and I was.

(17:53):
I was like I need toimmediately learn this.
I also I didn't even know youcould do that with your mouth.
And so then I immediately wentto youtube and started looking
up everything about beatboxingthat night and just like,
immediately fell in love with it.
So like when I say, like thatsong opened up my eyes to like a
whole new perspective, it'sjust like that just changed like
the trajectory of my lifecompletely, which sounds

(18:13):
dramatic, but it's really not,because once I like once I
listened to that cover and wentto youtube and learned
beatboxing um, I discovered somany beatboxers from like the uk
and from russia and all theseplaces.
I was like what the fuck?
Like this is like insane thatthere are one this many people
that do this this well, and theywere so far more talented than
what he showed me in that youknow class, which is why it was

(18:35):
even more of a mind-blownsituation.
But then, like, because I thendiscovered beatboxing, my
spanish teacher in high schoollater, like that year, was like
you're going to college, youshould look up this acapella
group at this college and jointhat.
I don't know if I joined theright group, but I joined
acapella and that's where I metmy wife and you know that's.
That's why it's like an open tonew perspective, because it

(18:57):
just shifted my trajectory oflife in like a weird way that I
didn't ever would have predicted.

Speaker 2 (19:02):
Yeah, nice, absolutely, wow, wow, yeah, I
mean that's something wedefinitely talk about on this
show in like a weird way that Inever would have predicted yeah,
nice, absolutely Wow, wow, yeah, I mean that's something we
definitely talk about on thisshow with our guests.
We, you know those momentswhere music played a part.
It was either there at apivotal point, or here it's
clearly it is the pivotal point,right, the music is caused the

(19:22):
pivot and changed the trajectoryof your life in a way where,
yeah, you probably can't evenimagine, like, if that song
wasn't there, if thatinteraction didn't happen, like
where would you be right, whoknows right?
Like because it gave you this,you know, passion, career, and
just like, like more than justlike oh, this is what I do.

(19:42):
It's like this is who you areand connected you to the worlds
where you met your, your partnerand wife, and all of that, so
yeah seriously, it really waslike it's like.

Speaker 1 (19:52):
And then, because I started beatboxing like that
year, I became known as like thebeatbox kid in high school
where I eventually did some liketalent show.
I wish it wasn't.
It wasn't like the legitimatetalent show.
There was like a weird like umjoke, male pageant thing they
did in high school and so therewas like a talent portion of
that where I did the beatboxingportion of that and then I even
beatbox at the senior prom orsomething like that.

(20:14):
So I became known as like thebeatboxer there right um, and
then I just kept doing it incollege and still doing it now.

Speaker 3 (20:19):
So yeah, nice it's amazing how it happens like in
this way of like a lightningstrike, right, you're just like
minding your own business, andnot only were you like that's
really cool, but it sort offeels like it like consumed you.
You're like I need to learnthis I need to do this right?

Speaker 2 (20:41):
yeah, it sounds like it sounds like when you describe
it it wasn't like sometimesthings like that can plant a
seed right.
That takes a little bit of timeand like after the fact you can
look back and go oh, I didn'trealize it at the time, but that
was something right.

Speaker 1 (20:56):
Here it seems more like it wasn't a seed, it was an
immediate, like passion thatthat started no, it really was
like I'm like, I'm serious, likeI don't know if you guys have
looked up beatboxing at all,like on youtube and stuff like
that.
But like, if you got, if youlike, just google beatboxing,
you find anything from like anyof the respect like the big,
known, respectable beatboxers.
You'll just be like what, whatthe fuck like?

(21:18):
People are so insane with whatthey do and like.
Even when I think back to likethe people that I first watch,
just like the way it's evolvedover 10 years is it's disgusting
.
Like the level just getsincreased so much because it's
like I guess my point is like ithasn't been around for very
long, comparatively to likeother instruments, right, sure,
it's like.
Sure, with other instrumentsthat are more common, maybe with

(21:40):
guitar and stuff, maybe it'snot as easy to have like I guess
and rosa you can, you guys cancorrect me because you guys play
more instruments than I do butlike, how often is it where you
see someone do something new ona guitar where you're like what
the fuck like?
I mean, I feel like there'smore guitars but beatboxers like
I feel like it's still kind ofbudding, where it's like
somebody will come up with a newsound and no one's ever heard
it before and we're just likewhat are you doing?

(22:01):
like they're like incorporatinglike yodel, like double voices
and things with zippers and likeit.
It's getting crazy, but I don'tknow where I was going with
this tangent.
But I think the point was when Iimmediately discovered it 10
years ago, at the level it was,it was still mind-blowing.
So I can't even imagine, Iguess, like if I was to google
today where I'd I don't know,maybe I'd be more overwhelmed
now because I'm like right, andbe like oh, I, I, I have no idea

(22:24):
because, like back then, it wasdefinitely more basic.
I mean, back then in 20, whatwas that?
10, 2011, something like thatlike beat boxes were just
learning how to use like throatbass, like like.
That wasn't even common.
Now it's like every beat boxerhas that within the first year
of beat boxing, when that wasjust being developed back then.
So it's like really weird, thelevel gets increased so fast the

(22:46):
way you're describing it.

Speaker 2 (22:47):
It reminds me very much of more of what you might
call the extreme sports, or likeX game sports like BMX,
skateboard, snowboarding, thosetypes of things.
Right, it was like people weredoing jumps and doing different
things and then all of a sudden,people were just inventing
brand new things, like the firsttime someone did like a
backflip on a dirt bike.
Right, it was like, well, wedidn't even know you could do

(23:10):
that, right, and so then, itjust kind of takes off and it,
just the way you're describingbeatboxing, feels like that same
way of like X game sports, howit just in the past, like 30
years or so, is just kind oflike not blown up in the sense
of just got popular, but blownup in the sense of the creation
of the sport has happened inthese couple decades and like

(23:30):
it's.

Speaker 1 (23:30):
No, it's been happening prior to us too.
I'm not as well versed in mybeatboxing history as I should
be, but like um again, you knowit's been going back to like
rozelle and doggie fresh.
If you guys have seen, like themovie space balls or police
academy, you know you've seenbeatboxers before and um, I
guess what I'm with the whole xgames thing, though it is kind
of like that.
I think I saw a clip orsomething recently where, like

(23:50):
tony hawk, like back in the day,did the first like 900, and I
could be wrong on that numbertwo yeah, but now, like now,
like a 13 year old kid did orsomeone really young did it
right and say and it's like thesame thing is happening with
beatboxing, where these youngkids are wanting to beatbox
within a year.
That took, you know me, years toget to, and I think that's
insane, it's phenomenal, right,but it's because, like, maybe
it's because you know theinternet and media too, how

(24:11):
there's so much more material atyour fingertips to watch and
consume, and I feel like maybethat plays that plays a role
into the faster education ofeverything, because, again, we
didn't have that.

Speaker 4 (24:19):
I mean, when I first started beatboxing, there was
like maybe like two tutorialchannels out there, right, which
is why I eventually startedmaking tutorials, because I was
like I want to like startfilling you know some more
updated stuff I think you guysare all sort of we're all
basically talking about the samething in, in, in, in the, in
the sense of um having aninstrument and then sort of you
know, learning it, then kind ofperfecting it, then then

(24:41):
revolutionizing it and then andthen you add this sort of social
media aspect of it which justblows up um.
But but yeah, I think, uh,tyler, you mentioned, uh, you
know, guitar.
I mean, like back in the 80s,like when eddie van halen came
out right with the whole liketapping guitar tapping.
No one had heard anything likethat.
It sounded like like aclassical um instrument, um, but

(25:04):
played on it on a guitar.
People were wondering how doyou play that many notes using
just you know your five fingers?
And you realize, oh, he's usinghis other finger as well.
I mean, it's like theequivalent of 10, you know 10
fingers, making 10 differentnotes on different octaves and
stuff like that.
In the same way that you guysyou know, in the, in the
beatboxing world you know itmight be much younger, like in

(25:25):
the, maybe in the last 10, 15,20 years or so I know the idea
of beatboxing has been aroundsince the 80s.
I think you mentioned uh,dougie, fresh, um, when hip-hop
was just getting started on mtvthere'd be like little breaks
and stuff.
But then, you know, I like whenI learned about for my kids
actually, I learned, hey know,there's this amazing like

(25:45):
YouTuber in our neighborhood dad, his name is Tyler W.
I'm like what the fuck?
What?
Okay, beatboxing.
And I was expecting you knowsome very basic stuff.
But then when we started youknow talking, and frankly, I
mean, you opened my eyes to thisworld of beatboxing that I had
no idea existed and the shitthat you guys are doing is just

(26:09):
amazing.
So it's definitely at thislevel right now, where it's.
I've never seen anything likeit before.
And, yeah, it would be cool tosee sort of where it goes from
here, whether it's liketutorials, like you're doing, or
, you know, just coming up withnew interesting sounds.
So yeah, by the way, so how doyou find inspiration for like

(26:32):
new, new sounds, what?
What is it?
Is it just coming from practice?
Is it, is it accidental?
Is it trying to replicatethings that you might hear, like
in the edm world or in the popworld, like what's your what's?
What's the formula?

Speaker 1 (26:48):
yeah, uh, accidental, um, so I think it's gonna be as
most revolutions are accidental.
Yeah, it's gonna be acombination of a few things,
right, so I listen to a lot oflike my like general music taste
is more of like metal, um, andjust kind of, I guess, rock in
general, um, but I guess I doalso, um, I guess now it's more

(27:10):
occasional than it used to be,but dubstep and like hardcore
rhythm and edm and everything,and I feel like that would
influence a little bit.
But like I would only be able,I would only try to replicate
with the sound palette I alreadyhave.
So like I don't know if thatmakes sense, like so if I, if I
they were, they were doingcertain things, I try to figure
out what I have and how I canmake my sounds work into that if
I was to cover it or somethinglike that.

(27:31):
Discovering new sounds typicallyfor me has always been
accidental.
So because I'm b-boxing all thetime, occasionally I'll just do
some weird combination of liketwo sounds on my co, shit hold
up, and then I'll record alittle bit on my phone to make
sure I don't forget that andthen, like, if it ended up being
good, it'll just get workedeventually more and more um, but

(27:52):
with beatboxing I don't.
It's so weird because, again,I'm telling you like new sounds
are discovered, for sofrequently where I see it's like
, it's kind of like uh, I don'tknow how to explain it it's like
one beatboxer will do something, it'll go like mad viral within
the community and then, likeevery other beatboxer, will
start to learn the sound prettyquickly after.
If it was good enough, right,and so it's like I feel like

(28:13):
that's where also a lot ofinspiration comes from is like
and then because then once theyonce, once you learn one sound
as you can learn to combo withanother.
So I keep like talking overhere, but once we learn one
sound and you come I don't knowwhy I get to the side of the mic
, so pulls in the way.
Um, once you learn one sound,then like it adds to your palate
and then you like your brainworks in different ways, you
want to combine it with anothersound so it's kind of just like

(28:35):
you have to try to add new stuffevery single time, um, and
constantly evolve, which is verydifficult, um, the more you get
solidified in your style andwhat you do beatboxing wise, so
like, learn new stuff and thenfigure out how to work that in,
but so it's like, but those arethe people who stay at the top,
the people who do that like it'slike, because so many people
are learning how to beatbox soquick, you have to like almost

(28:56):
evolve or perfect your style.
It's like one of the two, um,but yeah, mostly I don't know
yeah, do you do you find?

Speaker 4 (29:06):
sorry, just, but yeah , mostly I spell the interesting
sort of new things that you'vedone, um, and now you're stuck.
For example, do you find thebreakthrough in just sort of

(29:29):
more practice or or just takinga break from everything and
coming back to it maybe a weeklater or two weeks later or
whatever?

Speaker 1 (29:35):
so I actually hit this about a year ago.
So a year ago I was filming avideo where I wanted to train
like a specific world, likechampion beatboxer so, and like
I'm friends with him, so Iinterviewed him and I asked a
bunch of questions on how hetrained.
He's like oh, I did about twohours a day, you know, and stuff
like that absolutely phenomenalbeatboxer collapse from france,

(29:58):
insane, the most talentedpercussion based beatboxer
you'll ever see.
Um, but the point is, in thattraining process to film that
video, I was doing two hours aday and I dedicated specific
chunks of that time todeveloping music and yeah, it
was very frequently where I'd belike I have no fucking idea
what to do here.
I'm hitting a roadblock, I, butI still have 45 minutes left to

(30:20):
go in the session and I have todo shit.
And I guess, like for me atleast, with music, it's never
worked for me to like, force myway through it, like to like,
just like to bulldoze throughit's like.
That's why it's like I don'tthink I've developed a whole lot
in a little bit, because I'vefocused more on content creation
now, which I need to get backto focusing on music as well,
but in the past, when I was morepushing my own music on the

(30:43):
side things back in college andstuff like that it was always
like if I hit a roadblock Iwouldn't ever be able to like
force my way through.
It would have to be like it justhit one day where, like I was
like just you know, fuckingwashing my hands, doing the
dishes or taking a shower, thatwas like boom, like I got it,
and it was just like hit out ofnowhere.
Like.
And again, like with every ideaI typically get, I have like a
voice memo that's just full oflike hundreds, if not thousands,

(31:05):
of voice memos that are justideas, because I I'll forget a
rhythm.
Even if I'll remember something, I might forget the rhythm or
the pitch or something.
So I record it all andsometimes, like I'll go back
through and I'm like, oh wait,that would work really well with
that piece and I could fill thegap here with this.
So mainly random, mainly I waitfor the inspiration just to
kind of hit, because I guess Idon't know, I've never been able
to force my way through musicand I don't know if that's

(31:26):
really like an inspired way todo it anyways for me.

Speaker 4 (31:28):
So yeah, Calculated, calculated, uh randomness.

Speaker 1 (31:36):
Kind of Except not calculating Cause I don't know
when it's ever going to hit.

Speaker 3 (31:39):
Right, right, all right.
Um, so, given that this frienduh kind of alerted you to this
new perspective, or exposed youto this new perspective like
we're always grateful forfriends and the music that they
bring us and give us, does heknow he like changed your life
in that way?
Before I go to our next songhere, so I don't, I have no idea
.

Speaker 1 (31:59):
I mean, it's one of those things where it's like we
personally kind of like losttouch.
I didn't really keep in touchwith too many people after high
school, um, but I feel like Ikind of lost touch with him, but
so I don't know if he has, butI feel like he probably does,
considering it's really random,but my brother, who's like seven
years younger than me, um hisgirlfriend right now, ended up
rooming with him because they'reboth like nurses at the same.
You know, like things it's likea weird, like full circle event,

(32:22):
right like this kid that taughtme how to beatbox, which
changed the trajectory of mylife, is now rooming with my
brother's girlfriend.
It was very strange.
It was very full circle andweird.
Um, so I'm sure on some levelhe has found out.
You know, he probably also seeswhat I do to a degree.
Um, so he probably is like, ohshit, I did that and that's
probably.

Speaker 3 (32:39):
I don't know but yeah , I have no idea.
Yeah Well, thanks, kyle.
Um, all right.
So, speaking of friends, uh,sometimes music um just reminds
us of, of those folks that wejust like love spending time
with.
So, for your next song, um,what is that song that reminds

(32:59):
you of just a good friend or agroup of friends in your life?

Speaker 1 (33:02):
see, I feel like there's a lot with a lot like
right, but I feel like because,like you know, I have certain
songs that are more like, Iguess, more free, like current
life, where, like there's likeum kingslayer I bring with the
horizon, but like the one, like,I guess, when you think I have
like a very specific memory withthis, where it's like um

(33:23):
weekends by skrillex, where Iremember specifically back like
senior year of high school.
I feel like it's so weird howthese two questions are both in
high school.
I haven't even talked orthought about high school in a
while.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
It's one of the goals of the show.
Take us back.

Speaker 1 (33:37):
But I remember specifically this song, I don't
know why.
It was a group of friends andwe all went to an amusement park
King's dominion and we werelike we're going to film a
stupid fucking music video andwere like we're gonna film a
stupid fucking music video, andI don't know if it was actually
the intent to go there and do it.
But again, I've been creatingcontent for a very long time in
my life.
Right, I I started back inmiddle school creating content

(33:58):
which I don't even know howthat's like what, how fuck.
I don't know how young, I don'tknow the age of anything but
middle school, where I was justcreating.
You know some videos from myfriends which I'm sure are still
on the internet somewhere, um,but the point is and so I've
always made videos to them I dowas like senior year of high
school.
We were done, I think, with highschool that when they were
summer and we went to anamusement park and we were like
we're gonna film a music videofor this.
So it was just like a videowhere we just filmed dumb shit

(34:20):
in the amusement park.
Nothing made sense, it was sostupid.
But then, like, I edited it toa music video because, again,
I've been creating contentforever, so I just have this
like and I don't.
I don't think that's on theinternet anymore.
I don't have.
I would have given it to you ifI had the you know the actual
file for, but god, that's likeit's 12 years ago now.
It's an old computer at myparents house, it's probably
been trashed at this point yeahum lost yeah it's just gone to
the abyss right now.

(34:40):
Yeah and I remember justuploading it and I'm pretty sure
it got like demonetized becauseyou know the licensing it just
did not use, you know.
And then I'm pretty sure and Ialso pretty sure I got a shit
ton of dislikes because I'mpretty sure I titled it like
music video when it's not themusic video for it.

Speaker 3 (34:55):
So you know everyone's like right this isn't
the fucking music.

Speaker 1 (34:57):
I'm like, well, no shit, this is a bunch of grainy
ass footage in a car, like Idon't know what you guys expect,
but no, I just.
It just reminds me of like thattime, just like where you're
just I don't know.
No fucking stress in life whereyou're just like yeah, stupid.
I like a fear fest you know,like October or something like
oh, it was October.

Speaker 3 (35:15):
Yeah, probably wasn't .

Speaker 1 (35:16):
My timelines are off.

Speaker 2 (35:18):
That's all right, I'm the same way.
Let's take a quick listen soeveryone can know.

(35:44):
Skrillex weekend Fulldisclosure.
I love dubstep, I loveelectronic music.
Just being a drummer when Ifirst like when I was in college
back in you know the late 90s,and you know breakbeat in
Florida was huge.
You know DJ Icy and these folksand you know preparing for this
episode hearing this just againreminded me how much I love it

(36:09):
and the the percussive aspect ofit.
But it also took on a differentflavor because I've also been
just watching a good amount ofbeatboxing this last week and
preparing, you know um, youprobably have seen some of the
people that I'm talking about.
Yes, yeah, you've mentioned afew names and I'm like, oh, I
seen and I was, you know,watching a couple of your just
like, and this is why I was like, okay, this song, for me in

(36:33):
setting up the interview, has tobe in here, because it feels so
strongly connected tobeatboxing.
Like dubstep and beatboxingJust the sounds and things.
There seems to be thissimilarity.
So I was just really wanting tohear your viewpoint on that.
I mean, you said you're abeatboxer that kind of does

(36:54):
beatboxing, that is in that sortof genre.
But I was curious if you couldjust tell us a little bit more
about that relationship betweenthe two, the two art forms.

Speaker 1 (37:03):
No, so like that's why I think it's like God, it's
so interesting because, again,with beatboxing there are so
many different styles and everyartist has their own way, just
like music.
Right, it's like everybeatboxer in a respect is their
own musician, whether you knowthey're just doing percussion,
they're working in vocals orwhatnot.
But like there are certainbeatboxes who are known for just
creating dubstep tracks, rightwhere they're like there is one

(37:25):
beatboxer, um, actually fromvirginia, uh, vocoda.
He is a phenomenal dubstepbeatbox.
He's actually worked withexcision and did a song with
them and like his vocal basesare so controlled you can hop on
a mic and go for like 30 plusminutes just fluid, non-stop,
just dubstep rhythm, like youknow, through and through.
Um, but some like the firstbeatboxes I learned that were so

(37:47):
heavily integrated with dubstep, like reaps.
One like that's one of thefirst beatboxes I've learned
from the uk and I'm pretty suredubstep kind of originated out
of the uk.
So it was really interesting wesaw a bunch of uk beatboxers
doing dubstep at that time andlearning how to integrate it
into what they were doing and Ifeel like, because I listened to
dubstep so much, that's how Istarted developing what I do,

(38:07):
which is more like hardcoredrops and dubstep and stuff like
that where I don't know man, I,I just if I wish I I lost my
train of thought here on thisanswer, but it's very heavily
integrated and, um, yeah, I feellike I guess I kind of just one
more off that.
Um, when I mentioned like theuk beatbox is doing dubstep, it

(38:28):
kind of goes back to like everycountry.
You kind of like see everycountry's beatboxers.
They all hit like a similarstyle, which is very interesting
like you can hear a beatboxerlike from the us and be like,
yeah, they're from the us, I getthat.
Or like you can hear a beatboxfrom the uk, you can be like, oh
yeah, like they'll do likemaybe more drum and bass or
dubstep, and like there are justcertain things that you know
the culture will influence,right, sure um or just even

(38:50):
sound palettes and everything,like certain beatbox, because I
mean, keep in mind too, likebeatboxers we all kind of know
each other to a respect, becauseit's not the largest community
it's it's actually a lot biggerthan I think but like in terms
of people who like do meetupsand stuff like that, like we all
know each other so we learnsounds from each other, so it
all kind of like integrates.
So like america's known formore, like powerful, you know
sounds, and like not necessarilydubstep, like powerful, like

(39:13):
drops and stuff like that, whereother countries might be
focused on like just moremelodic stuff or just groovy
things.

Speaker 4 (39:21):
I don't know, I don't know if that makes sense, but
yeah yeah yeah definitely, um,I'm I know, when I've seen, um,
just different hip-hop artistscoming up, um, whether it's
asian, uh, whether it's european.
You're absolutely right.
I I hear the influences of thelocal, like you know, south

(39:43):
asian music or east asian musicor, you know, european, with,
with the I'm guessing thebeatboxers that are
incorporating dubstep isprobably more of like a european
type vibe.
Um, I know that I've, like, inwatching some of the newer sort
of bollywood related uh, musicvideos and things like that,
there's this really coolinfluence of hip-hop, like, like

(40:05):
you know, I guess, rap, rapsand and the rhythmic structure
in how hip hop is going, butthen incorporate, like, local
instrumentations and localsounds and things like that.
And I can only imagine if therewas, you know, a beatboxing
element to that, that would justcompletely, you know, blow

(40:27):
everything away.

Speaker 3 (40:28):
I'm I'm blown away by just how much it's evolved like
, for for me, my earliest memoryof beatbox is like bismarck key
and that's so percussive andjust ingrained in hip-hop.
And so the fact that, likeyou've got like look at where we
are today with dubstep.

Speaker 1 (40:48):
I mean it's bananas like I love the innovation.

Speaker 3 (40:53):
I think it's super, super cool.
Um so, yeah, thanks for sharingthat one.
Oh, did you have something?

Speaker 2 (40:59):
else.
I was just gonna ask onequestion, because you know we
have a beatboxer on the show andyou know, hey, he loves
beatboxing, and so if we could,you know, open up our, our
viewers eyes who might not be inthe beatbox community, right,
this show is not a life in sixbeatbox songs or something like
that, right?
So viewers could be coming fromall different areas.
I was curious not to kind ofput you on the spot in this way,

(41:22):
but in talking about thoseregional differences, can you
give us I know you have yourgenre, that's yours and so
that's the one you're the bestat but could you give our
listeners a taste of, like, whatyour style is and then, if you
are able to do anything of adifferent style in any sense,
what that might look like?

Speaker 1 (41:51):
so the answer is like I yeah I probably could but I
would be doing a very poorrepresentation of it because I
say that.
I say it to respect of, likeyou know, for what I do, like
I've just developed my stylearound what I do, right.
I could replicate one thingthat beatboxes do a lot to do
like copy melodies.
So people would do like copybeats from other beatboxers and
they'll integrate them into onevideo.
That's nothing.
That's something that Ipersonally have not been very
great at in the past, because Ijust people use certain sounds

(42:13):
and just do certain things whereit's just like maybe I can't do
it to that degree of quality,right, so it's like I I don't
ever try yeah, yeah, and rightand and right.

Speaker 2 (42:23):
as I asked the question, this is also two of
like, for you know beatbox,right, who we all are, the three
hosts right, we know of it, butwe know nothing about how it's
done.
Right, as I was asking thequestion using what we talked
about before of kind of like thedifference between knowing
certain languages, I basicallykind of asked you like, okay,
some people speak English, somepeople speak Spanish and some

(42:45):
people speak French.
Could you give us an example ofsomeone speaking English and
then someone speaking Frenchwhich you may not speak?
Right?
And you would be like, like, ifsomeone asked me that, I'd be
like no, I'm not going to dothat, I'm not going to try and
show you what French sounds likebecause I don't speak it.

Speaker 1 (43:00):
So the thing is it's not quite like.
I know what you're saying.
It's not quite like that like,because it's like I could
replicate some beatboxerspecific beats, like I could,
but it would be still in my ownstyle, right, because, like,
sure, right, it would be like Ican, I could do your pattern, I
can do similar patterns, I cando structures that are the same,
I can replicate your cover to adegree, but like, it would

(43:23):
never be them.
Because again, like, again,every, every, every beatbox
sounds even like people willhave different kicks or they'll
have different snares, likethere are some beatboxes who are
known for how clean their iscompared to other people, right,
and so it's like I'll never beable to hit it exactly right,
but trying to copy otherbeatboxers and practice their
beats is a great way to evolveand push Right.

(43:45):
I feel like it's something Iused to do a lot Like when I
first started beatboxing.
There were a lot of beatboxersthat I would do covers of on
stage, like from the UK andthings like that, and I just I
eventually phased my own way outof that as I started developing
my own original music and stufflike that, because I just felt
like I wanted to push that morethan trying to replicate other

(44:06):
people.
But I don't that doesn't.
I don't want to diminish, likeyou know, the benefit of trying
to learn from other beatboxersand replicate their stuff,
because that is, that's just agreat way to learn and to
progress your own stuff.

Speaker 3 (44:20):
Yeah, absolutely all right, um, we've talked a lot
about dubstep.
We're gonna switch genres on onon here um, what's for your
next song?
What's a memorable time?
Uh, when you were first exposedto a band's artist or music.
What song was playing duringthat time?
Um, yeah, what was it?

Speaker 1 (44:45):
okay.
So growing up I listened to Iwould argue it was just a lot of
radio stuff, right.
So when I said, like I listenedto a lot of black IPs I still
have their CDs downstairs Likeit was just radio stuff, right.
So when I say, like you know, Ilistened to them, it's like I
did and some of them are stillbangers, but like I eventually
like shifted out of that.

(45:05):
But it only happened when I wasshit.
Yeah, it was when I was playingbaseball.
Right, I played baseball for alarge chunk of my life.
But there was one year wherethere's this kid on my team who
we are friends, john, and heheavily tried to convince me to
listen to a song and like it wasa whole new genre.
It was metal, it was like.
It was like it was emo, right,it was like post-hardcore, like

(45:26):
think of warp tour, and it wasthat.
Right, it was um, this war isours by escape the fate.
Um.
But there's like, there's likemore than one version of it.
I think it was um was like theguillotine or something like
that part three, it wassomething weird.
But the point is like um,because they have two different
versions of two different albums.
I, I listened to escape the fate.
They're still good, um, nottheir new stuff, their old stuff

(45:47):
.
I don't know their new stuff.
I'm rambling, but the point ishe showed me the song in the
dugout at baseball and Iimmediately was like I fuck, I
don't like this.
Like they're screaming, I don'tlike anything about this.
In my head I don't think I saidthat in person, but I did not
like it.
Um, I think it was because hewas trying to convince me at
that time to like and maybe Ididn't try to convince him until

(46:07):
a little bit later uh, to joinhis band.
He wanted me to play bass.
I never played bass.
He was even gonna buy me a bassand I'm pretty sure his band
actually went and did some toursor something at some point.
I remember seeing it for a bitbut, um, never did it.
But the point is I once Iplayed that song, I remember
like going back and listening toit and listening and like
finding other songs along thatsame genre, track right, and

(46:31):
eventually I came to likescreaming and now I fucking love
screaming right and I reallyappreciate it and it's so
funny to me that when I thinkback my just immediate leg, I
was appalled by it.
I was like what the fuck?
Like, no, this is not appealingto listen to.
Now I'm like fuck, yeah, right,I want to learn how to scream,
um.
But yeah, no, I feel like thatwas a song, because now that

(46:53):
that that genre is like theentirety of my music taste right
now, once he played this I waslike wait, what the fuck?
Now I have like those albums onvinyl now and I listen to so
many other bands that are alongthe same.
It honestly shifted what Iliked after I started to enjoy
that within like a few monthsafter hearing it.

Speaker 2 (47:12):
It's hysterical.
Let's take a quick listen so weall know what you were exposed
to and what changed the courseof your musical taste.
This is where we conquer fear.
I'm breaking up with our swords.
This war is ours, yeah.

Speaker 1 (47:36):
This war is ours.

Speaker 2 (47:39):
Yes, I will see you Through the smoking flames On
the front lines of war.
We have to find a better wayand I will stand by.
Yeah, it's such a, it's a, it'sa, it's a good song for, like
you can identify, like we playeda little clip and there's more

(48:00):
parts to it where you canidentify, like a bunch of sub
genres of metal playing out inthere.
Right, it's, it's I, I was, Iwas impressed by it.
I was not as familiar with this, this band, um, but it was
interesting to, to, to see itand see it kind of like, kind of
what we do with this show.
Right, we fit things in kind ofa history or whatever, and
seeing how this, this song andthis band and this time fits

(48:25):
into the history of, of it alland things so like I'm pretty
sure in that song too, they havelike a guitar solo at the end
too, which is something youdidn't really hear a whole lot
within that genre of music.

Speaker 1 (48:35):
So I thought that.
I thought it was a fun littleaddition that they did for that
one.
But yeah, I don't know any oftheir new music, so they changed
multiple singers most.
Most bands in this genre changesingers pretty frequently, it's
really it's like a weird littlesymptom of like scene music,
where it's like a singer willhave a controversy and they'll
be out.
Singer will have a controversyand they're out.
They'll keep swapping themaround right um, but then the
singer from that band not offthat album went to another album

(48:58):
band that I like.
So there's so many bands inthat genre I like now so it's
kind of funny that, that and howI'm doing that.

Speaker 2 (49:05):
so you said at first you were like I don't like this,
and then it grew on you.
How long do you think thatprocess took?

Speaker 1 (49:14):
So what was the band?
So, after I learned about thissong, right, like, specifically,
I loved what they called cleanvocals, which was just singing,
right, but then you had, like,the more hard vocals which were
just screaming.
I didn't like the screaming andI liked the clean vocals.
So there was this one band, I,it was, um, fuck, bullet for my,
bullet for my valentine wasthat the band or was that the?

(49:35):
Song yeah, I think it was theband right yeah, that is a band.

Speaker 2 (49:38):
Yeah, I don't know if it's the band you're talking
about.

Speaker 1 (49:40):
There was a song there was a song by them that I
remember I found on youtubethere was a version of it that
just had clean vocals, like theyhad, like they had screaming in
a mix, but then they had aversion with clean out and I.
So I like that because I fuckingloved the metal instruments.
I think that's what I liked themost about this genre.
First, I love the instruments.
I love the guitar, I love thedrums, I love the breakdowns, I
like headbanging and like.
So I was like I gotta learn tolike the screaming.

(50:01):
So eventually I think I justeventually just grew into it,
just kind of like worked in.
Um probably took a few months,I don't know, I don't think it
was like that long of.
It wasn't that hard of afucking challenge.
I just think I just think I hadto like get a little over the
little bit of a hurdle of likeright right immediately
appealing.
And now again, I told you yeah,I told you before I started
beatboxing, I wanted to learnhow to scream and I'm pretty
sure at one point in my life Ithink it's long gone, I think I

(50:24):
deleted it, but there was ayoutube cover I uploaded for one
of the songs from this bandthat we just played, um of me
trying to scream and oh god, itwas fucking awful, like I'm
pretty, I'm pretty sure it gotlike dislike, bombed, like
immediately.
So it was so bad.
Um, I wish I still had thevideo.
That'd been funny as hell.
But I don't have it anymore.
But now it's a few months maybe.

Speaker 3 (50:43):
I don't think it was like that hard to yeah, yeah get
into it so as, as you startedto appreciate this kind of music
more, this, this genre more didit start to seep into your
music.

Speaker 1 (50:54):
Yeah um, so I think, I think I think when we're
talking about when I was gettinginto this, I wasn't very good
at beatboxing at that time, oreven beatboxing at that time, so
not not quite um but like Isaid now though like I, because
I listen to like more I feellike my music style has been
shifting slightly over the lastyear to get a little more like
midwest emo, but not quite likeum as hardcore.

(51:19):
But like I was really heavyinto like hardcore stuff with
like heavy screaming andbreakdowns, and so that kind of
worked with dubstep 2 and rhythm, where everything was like
getting hype, getting you knowheadbanging, just going crazy,
and so that was a lot of mybeatboxing.
It still is.
I still have a lot of tracksthat are just like like you work
in, like you know headbangingstuff and I love that and it's
all powers if you're on a stagelike the speakers will shake and

(51:41):
it's fucking awesome right butI'm pretty sure I clipped the
hell out of my mic, um, but so,oh shit, what was I saying?
Um?
What was the question again?

Speaker 3 (51:54):
it was.
It was whether, whether metalstarted to seep into, like
influence, the music you'remaking yes, yes, well, yes, the
answer is yes.

Speaker 1 (52:02):
Like I said, I even took influence for one of my
tracks with like a stuttering of, like a scream, like fry vocal
and I from bring me the horizonon one of their songs.
It was like, um fuck, it waslike diamonds aren't forever or
something they were like.
So, like it's like now I'll belike let me hear you get loud
and I'll do something like that,like you know, working with

(52:25):
some crazy shit, but I fuckedall this but the point is, you
get the vibe where it's like I Iam influenced by

Speaker 3 (52:31):
it completely right, so it's working its way in.
It's pretty cool.
Rosa, did you have something?

Speaker 4 (52:36):
I don't want to move ahead yeah, I was just gonna say
, um, I, I, so you'd mentionedthat you were into like radio
sort of poppy type, you knowradio friendly type music before
, and then you got into metalslowly.
I was just thinking around thetime when you were getting into
metal, like when your friend inbaseball introduced you to the

(52:57):
song from escape the fate, um,this type of sort of emo,
hardcore melding is what wasgoing on at the time.
So I think that's why that waslike your first exposure to it.
Um, because if you were, youknow one one, one generation,
maybe you know 10 years removed,it would have been like your
sort of 80s thrash, thrashy sortof metal which was a lot more

(53:20):
sort of radio friendly.
I mean, you know it could beanything from like metallica to
bon jovi to black sabbath orwhatever.
Um, but then by the time youknow 10 years, fast forward, it
was, you know, like pantera hadalready had their sort of you
know heyday and death metal washuge.
So this metal emo core stuff iswhat was.
That was your gateway.

Speaker 1 (53:41):
So don't beat yourself up, you're, you're okay
, you'll, you'll find this,you'll find the metal that you
like yeah, but I feel like themetal will find you I feel like
what you were saying to the atthat time too specifically, I
kind of already kind of touchedon it earlier.
But I wonder if, like, because,like I said, when you think
about, when I listen to pop,like that's all there was, like
you had the radio, right, I meanlike at least at my age girl, I

(54:02):
mean I said the radio so unlessI was to like go out and like
specifically seek out like weirdcds and I would have to
physically purchase and justlike gamble on right and my
parents weren't heavy into musicoutside of what they listened
to on the radio, which wasclassic rock or anything like
that.
So I didn't.
I guess I didn't have thatexposure.
So the first like time a personwas like, hey, check this out.
Then like, and again youtubeand stuff like that really

(54:24):
wasn't like truly a thing likegod you didn't have like on
demand, like video searching atthat exact maybe maybe at that
time I did, but not much beforethat right yeah like I remember
specifically, I want to hear asong.
I have to go on to like yahoomusic and click next a billion
times to maybe get the radiolike version of that song, right
, I don't know because, againyour kid internet was new, not

(54:44):
everything out there now it'slike you can click shuffle on
spotify.
You can find a billion newartists within a day and you'll
have just.
You can find exactly what youwould like, you know, want to
listen to.

Speaker 2 (54:53):
Yeah, well, and that's the thing back then and
and I appreciate you sharingthat in that way and rosa your
question up of like you know,it's one of the goals of this
show is that, um, you know, alltoo often we, we, we either
actually get judged for themusic we listened to or whatever
got you know.
Whatever we were listening to 10years ago, or what were you
listening to your senior year ofhigh school, right, and people

(55:14):
want to like, judge it, or wejust have the judgment going on
in our head, right, because weknow, all right, maybe it wasn't
the coolest thing I waslistening to, but it's what I
had.
But the whole point of what wetry and get across here is that,
like what you said, you knowyou have access to the music you
have access to right, and it'sgetting easier to have access
right, because the world's atour fingertips now and things,

(55:44):
but even there it's, you stilldon't know what to look for in
ways, and so, yeah, it's reallyjust about that thing of, like
you know, the music finds usthose chance meetings right of,
of expose us to something thatmoves us in another direction,
create some new interest andsome taste of in something, and
we go from there, and so it'sreally just about that of
realizing all of us are just onour journey and we can't judge
it after the fact, because thejourney is the journey.

Speaker 3 (56:07):
Yeah, but I think so.
Yes, I agree.
I think a component that wasreally helpful back then to now,
versus now, is community.
So because you were justbeholden to the radio, streaming
wasn't a thing back then.
So like because you were justbeholden to the radio, like
streaming wasn't a thing backthen, Like you know, it sort of
took that friend or that likeolder sister or older person
that you looked up to to kind oflike expose you to music Versus

(56:30):
.
now, yeah, you have streamingand you have, like you know,
endless songs at your disposal,but you're kind of beholden to
the algorithm, like if you don'tknow what to look for and you
don't know what you don't know.
The algorithm on Spotify orwhatever Pandora, whatever you
listen to like, is never goingto give me beatboxing or dubstep
.

Speaker 1 (56:48):
Somebody would have to introduce it to me.
You know what I mean, and so Ithink community, like people,
sharing of music is stillimportant.

Speaker 3 (56:58):
Like, I hope we don't drop that, you know.
True, that's fair.
Yeah, all right, we all agreewe need community music.
Um, so, um, we'll move us aheadto your, to your next song, and
that's um.
What is a song that'sintimately connected to another

(57:18):
activity?

Speaker 1 (57:20):
So this one's definitely, it's definitely a
personal one.
Um, so it's my song, uh, withmy wife, um, because it's how we
got engaged, Um.
So we, we wrote a song togetherand it was like it was like a
really panicky time because wewere moving and she didn't know
if she was getting proposed toduring the music video of the

(57:41):
song.
But we were trying to move fromone place to another and we had
to finish the song and I wasfreaking out because I was like
we're going to california, likewe're going to be filming this
music video and the song's noteven done for the music video
yet.
And you know, blah, blah, blah,and I lost my train of thought
here already.
I'm sorry.
I saw, I saw my waveformrecording over here on the right
and I totally lost my train ofthought here already I saw my
waveform recording over here onthe right and I totally lost my

(58:02):
train of thought.
I'm really ADD, guys, I promiseWell if you want.

Speaker 2 (58:05):
What we can do is because I have the YouTube
pulled up at the video.
We can watch the clip and thenyou can talk about it afterwards
.

Speaker 1 (58:11):
Perfect, Buy you some time to let the neurons get
back in there.

Speaker 2 (58:27):
Oh no, I'm already ready, but let's now I'm falling
right in.

Speaker 4 (58:41):
I feel a rush through my skin.
I want you to stay here by meall right all right, I'll give
you.

Speaker 1 (58:47):
I'll give you the story behind this then real
quick.
So I think that's why it was alittle more panicky, because
there was so much going on withI needed this video to like be
done and work out for theproposal.
So we were dating for, like god, how long were we dating?
Seven years at that point,seven, eight years.
But we were waiting until shewas graduated college, like uh,
law school.
So it was like I was like allright, I'm gonna propose around
this time.
I already know this and Ialready cued her brother in,

(59:08):
who's a film producer out in youknow la, he works like bad
robots on all the star warsstuff.
I'm actually going to be anextra in one of his movies
coming out here soon I walk, Iwalk across the screen and take
a piss in the urinal.
We invested in the movie.
We were on set and he's like Ineed someone to walk across
screen.
And he was like, tyler, you doit.
I'm like I don't want to do it.
He goes, you do it.
And I was like, all right, uh,it was probably because I fit in

(59:29):
the suit jacket of the extra orthe other guy.
So, yeah, point is tangent,bring it back.
He's a movie producer.
I hit him up and I was like yo,I'm gonna propose to cassie, uh
, can you film a music video forus?
And he did it all for freebecause he's a fucking saint, um
, nice.
But I eventually got.
I got a sponsor too bybrilliant earth, which was, um,
the company she always wantedher ring from anyways.
So I just like fuck it, I'm apitch to the company and they

(59:52):
just they dropped like thousandsof dollars off the ring price.
I'm like hell, yeah, that'sawesome they didn't even want
much either.
They just wanted me to like showthe ring box, show the ring
right put their logo at the endof what?
That's the music video, I'm nottalking in it.

Speaker 2 (01:00:03):
And they're like okay , that works right um, that's
the lesson there but it wasfunny.

Speaker 3 (01:00:08):
But I never know david was showing me the video
and I was like oh, brilliantearth, carolina knew it right
away.

Speaker 2 (01:00:14):
I was showing her before we got on and she was
boom, we got our wedding bandsfrom them too.

Speaker 1 (01:00:18):
So, um, I think it's opened up a location by us.
But regardless, um, it's funnybecause I actually had cassie
negotiate the contract withoutknowing it was the contract I
think I was, because she's she'sa you know, she's a copyright
attorney, so she deals with thestuff.
She at the time she justgraduated, though, but I had her
helping me like, do all theterms of, like you know the
licensing and what rights theywould get out of it.
So I'm like guys, this is asong, you're not getting the

(01:00:39):
rights to my music, like youknow right and so, but I had, I
had her thinking it was companyhoney.
I was like, yeah, I want to workwith honey and this is her
contract.
I was like, what would you?
What would you say in thesituation?
She had no idea.
Um, but the point is, yeah, soI was negotiating contracts and
then, you know, the song wasn'teven done when we finished the
video yet, but we had thestructure laid out and we didn't
really need the song until hewas editing it.
But, yeah, that, that's a songthat we wrote together.

(01:01:01):
Um, there were a lot of nightsand fake little studio booths
and closets with a lot ofblankets and pillows, which I
don't even think I would doagain.
No, that was totally unnecessary.
Dead in the space like that,but I didn't know what I was
doing.
Um, and then we drew out to thedesert, we filmed all around la
.
It was a lot Like and just.
It was just a whole memorableexperience, like just filming a

(01:01:22):
music video with you know, mywife and with her brother, and
it was just.
It was fun.

Speaker 3 (01:01:26):
Yeah, yeah, for those , um, for those folks that are
listening to the audio um formatof of this podcast today um,
you know you can catch us onYouTube and we'll have the the
clip of the video on YouTube, aswell as the link to the whole
thing and shown up so you cansee the proposal for yourself.
Awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:01:45):
From what I hear, you're you're married, so the
proposal obviously went well,but kind of what was her
reaction to it?
You know, doing it in thisvideo of you know how did that.
How did that?
How did that go over?

Speaker 1 (01:01:58):
So I guess, to start like, the reaction was more just
shocked, because we alreadyknew we were getting married.
It was like we, we kind of beentalking about it for like since
, like the first week we starteddating, like I, it just like it
.
We just immediately clicked onthat level where it was just
like it just kind of new um andso obviously like throughout the
years of like law school andeven under like college.
So we just, we're always,always like when will be the

(01:02:18):
right time to propose?

Speaker 3 (01:02:19):
never like will you do it or will I say yes, there's
nothing what should we do?

Speaker 1 (01:02:23):
it's like you gotta plan a wedding, which, by the
way, a lot of effort, jesus youguys all know if you guys
planned weddings or if you weresmart and I don't know but like
another full-time job.
Yeah, it really was like I hadto like take off time of content
creation and just like it wasinsane, there was so much effort
to plan a wedding.
Totally worth it, totally worthit in my eyes, but a lot of
effort, um, but so the theanswer was she was shocked

(01:02:45):
because, like I don't think sheeven, I mean she could answer
this for herself, but she hadn't.
I don't think she had anyfucking clue it was happening,
which was my goal, and I wasokay, I'll tell you, sorry, I
was really worried too.
So the ring I had directlyshipped to la um, to a brother
who picked it up for me, which,again, that wasn't picked up
until, like one of the weirddays we were.
There was like a weird likelast minute thing because it was
delayed, weird stuff.

(01:03:05):
But the point is we didn't, Ididn't pack a ring and she, you
know we went through all thestuff we packed together, so she
was like all right, she, shetold me in the like afterwards,
like she's, like there was noring, so I had no reason to
suspect you were gonna proposeright, I went through all the
packing with you, like we.
I would have seen a ring, so Igot by with that by shipping it
there directly um and so I justdon't think she thought that I

(01:03:26):
was gonna do it on video either,which was kind of like the
perfect way to do it, I don'tknow for us, like we thought we
could just document what wewanted forever.
And her dad came out to la atthe same time.
He didn't even I didn't eventell him I was gonna propose to
cassie, because I knew he wouldblab it out, nick.
So I told him like the nightbefore.
I, like at dinner, I was likeoh, by the way, I'm totally
proposing to your daughter 20goes hot, fucking nice.

(01:03:46):
Like yes, awesome, um, but andso she had no idea.
So I think she was more justshocked and she gets like
embarrassed in front of peopletoo with big things like that.
So it's like it was.
I think she was, she wasslightly shocked and also like
shit, I'm on camera you know,that's what I was thinking.

Speaker 2 (01:04:02):
Like you're shocked but you're like shit the video,
like I gotta stay in context.

Speaker 1 (01:04:08):
but we I we kept it small too.
We're on like a beach in malibu, which I actually come to
figure out that I've seen in acouple other things in media, so
apparently it's used enough.
But the um it was just.
It was just like me, herbrother, her dad and then one of
her brother's friends who wasshooting photos for us.
We have a bunch of photos fromthat as well, and it all made
sense because we were supposedto be on camera anyways.

(01:04:28):
But we were worried because theday of the video we were
shooting that she went and gother nails done and we were like,
oh shit, she's got to fuckingknow she's getting her nails
done before she gets proposed to.

Speaker 3 (01:04:38):
But no, she getting her nails done before she gets
proposed to right.

Speaker 1 (01:04:39):
But no, she got her nails done black, and so when
she we saw her nails black, wewere like she has no fucking
idea, we're good, um, and wewere making jokes, but like I
mean she, that's what she woulddo.
I think she she loves to dodifferent colors and like that.
So it just made complete sense.
But it was funny though, um,because we thought she knew, but
she had no idea yeah, I love itand you have it forever now,
exactly right.

(01:05:01):
Um, we even share.
I think we even put I even putmy wedding video on my channel.
They don't like that they're.
They aren't like the musicvideo like.
It was, you know, a song thatwe produced.
I was like I want to put thatthere.
The wedding video is just like,if anyone actually cares out
there, since you've watched usyears past, like here it is,
here's an update.
You know, and you know you paya lot of money for wedding
videography.
It's like I might as well gosomewhere right she did.

Speaker 2 (01:05:20):
She did a killer use of it, so yeah I love that so
her reaction to the proposal?

Speaker 4 (01:05:26):
I mean, that's all, that's all real, that's.

Speaker 1 (01:05:28):
That's all.
It's all.
100 real um it's awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:05:32):
It wasn't like the 12th take or anything like.

Speaker 1 (01:05:34):
No, no, there was no there was only one take for
everything here, especially whenwe were in that damn desert.
We were, like I was, in themiddle of the desert.
I don't know why I decided towear sweatpants in like la heat
in the middle of a desertfucking stupid.
We were powering everything offhis car.
So, like I was, I was a legitlive looping on the spot with
all that oh, I mean just so likeI could, like you know, act it

(01:05:55):
properly for the music rightlike we.
We fucking bought power adaptersfor his car, hoping his car
wouldn't die.
We were getting sunburned outthere.
I'm pretty sure she ended upwith like some pretty decent
sunburn after that event.
Um, it was just fun though.
We just had it was just like.
This is a good memory.

Speaker 3 (01:06:09):
It's a whole lot of just fun baked into that entire
trip yeah yeah well, just a goodmemory, thinking about like I
don't know 20 years from now,right when you're talking about
it.
And it's not just like youcaptured the proposal on video,
but it was to a song that youboth worked on, you know.
So it feels like it just feelsextra special.

Speaker 1 (01:06:32):
That's fun.

Speaker 3 (01:06:33):
Thank you for sharing with us.

Speaker 1 (01:06:34):
Again, I can't sing.
She sings because we met inacapella.
So, yeah, she sang on it and Imean I think it's funny because,
like it was a little bit rushedon the production of the song,
I feel like we would havedefinitely done some things
differently if we were to do itnow.
I think she even wants to dolike a stripped down, like
acoustic version of it at somepoint.

Speaker 3 (01:06:48):
But I need to learn guitar or something.

Speaker 1 (01:06:50):
Yeah, our piano to work that she plays piano, so
she probably could do that, butyeah, I love it.

Speaker 3 (01:06:58):
Well, ty, we are at your last song.
I feel like that went by prettyfast, but we're here.
So for your sixth and finalsong, what's a song that was a
part of just a perfect momentwhere everything felt right.

Speaker 1 (01:07:14):
That would be If I'm James Dean, you're Aubrey
Hepburn by Sleeping With Sirens,and I say that because I was
one.
I got married two years ago andthat was our last dance song.
So at the end of our wedding wekind of kicked everyone out and
we just had like a solo danceto that song, cause that was
that's been our song ever sincewe started dating.

(01:07:34):
Cause, like there was the firsttime like we ever listened to
it together.
There was like we were datingfor like a week right, we're
talking like at this point, like11 years ago we were dating for
like a week and we played thissong on my car driving to like
one of my baseball games windowsdown I can't even explain why
it was such a good moment, right, but we both remember it for
some reason.
Whereas, like we were playingthe song, singing all the lyrics

(01:07:55):
, and it was just like drivingthrough some like backwoods area
in like Fredericksburg, goingto a baseball field, right.
No explanation why that was solike sticking out of my head,
but it was.
So it became our songthroughout the years and one of
our favorite bands we'reactually going to see them again

(01:08:15):
here in September and it justkind of became our last dance
song and I guess I don't know,after all the wedding planning
and all the stress and all thatstuff that goes into it, you hit
the last song.
You're like nice, this is calm,this is our dance.
We did it.
We're married.
You know, it's like that guy.
So I feel like that's that plusagain, it's just like it's just
been our song for like a decade.
So they say the love is forever.

(01:08:41):
Your forever is all that I need.
Please stay as long as you need.
You promised that things won'tbe broken, but I swear that I
will never leave.
Please stay.
And I never would have knownabout the song if I never heard

(01:09:03):
escape the fate.
This war is ours because they'rein the same genre same era see,
I'm telling you, like music,they just like you learn one
thing and it just shiftseverything.
So absolutely but there's anacoustic version to that song
too, and they, they're both sogood which?

Speaker 2 (01:09:20):
which did you dance to?
Was it this?

Speaker 1 (01:09:21):
version or the acoustic.

Speaker 2 (01:09:22):
Don't do that to me shit we won't air this live we
won't air this out, you couldyou could totally air it.

Speaker 1 (01:09:30):
That's totally fine, because I I would want to say it
was the acoustic, but I wouldbe probably wrong on that again.
Everything goes by so quick Idon't remember if it was the
acoustic or not the acoustic.

Speaker 3 (01:09:43):
I remember you totally get a pass.
Yeah, it's hard to remember Ifyou owe me details.

Speaker 2 (01:09:48):
I yeah there's no I need to know that Carolina and I
were just talking about it theother day, about, um, we were
somehow just talking aboutofficiating weddings and things
and we were saying how, oh yeah,the person that officiated our
wedding was so great, and wewere both like I don't remember
a word she said but you know,like lovely lady she was great,
um, and so, yeah, it's all justa blur.

Speaker 1 (01:10:10):
You know, we had, um, we had my cousin officiate it
and it was funny because he waslike, oh yeah, yeah, I'm a fit.
I, you know, I've got licensedto officiate or whatever like
that.
And we, I had no expectationsfor his speech, right, I had no
expectations of anything goinginto it.
Man wrote the best shit I'veever heard in my entire life,
worked like perfect.
He worked in beatboxing andmusic and he wrote fucking poems

(01:10:34):
.
Man it was.
It was great, it's shocking.
It didn't shock me, cause likeI, you know, I know to a degree,
but like I it's still I waslike what the fuck?
Hell?
yeah, like this is amazing umbut apparently also in virginia.
It's officiating is very weird,if you didn't know that, yeah,
you have to get likespecifically licensed by certain
things.
You can't just get like onlineto go to a court and shit.
That was a nightmare.
That was like week before thewedding.

(01:10:56):
We're like are we gonna have anofficiant?
What's going on?

Speaker 3 (01:10:58):
wow, oh goodness but I love that it was super
personal, from the efficient to.
I kind of love the fact thatyou like kicked everyone out and
it was like just you two thereat the end dancing to this yeah,
I think, I think we saw thatidea somewhere like oh no, we're
doing that, oh yeah yeah, yeah,it's like the reverse of a
first look.

Speaker 2 (01:11:18):
It's like a last look .
You get the last momentstogether all right.

Speaker 3 (01:11:25):
Well, we've, we've come to the end.
Um, it's been quite a journeyyou've taken us on.
How does it feel, uh, to hearyour life reflected through
these six songs?

Speaker 1 (01:11:36):
yeah, it makes me question why my hopes by the
black eyed peas change theentire trajectory of my life but
you know, it makes me realizethat we're here because of that
song.
So that's that no, we say it allthe time yeah, it's fun to
think about you know that,because music is such a big part
of my life what songs act like,what things actually started

(01:11:56):
changing.
I never thought about it likethat before, you know.
So it's like when you, when yougo through this and you guys
are asking me these questions,it's kind of like, oh shit, yeah
, you know, it's just, it's justinteresting to think about.
Yeah, thank you for sharing.

Speaker 3 (01:12:11):
Of course Go ahead.

Speaker 4 (01:12:14):
Raza, we're just going to say the Black Eyed Peas
songs was definitely a pivotalmoment for you in your
professional journey.
So that's awesome, that andyour friend, by the way, right.

Speaker 1 (01:12:28):
Nope, he doesn't beatbox anymore.
So yeah, I think that was likea one week short lived thing for
him.
For me it took on to a passion,for him it was just like a
quick little thing and he movedon to the next thing.

Speaker 2 (01:12:37):
Yeah, but what an important lesson there for all
of us, right In that sense oflike we talked a little bit
about community and a goodamount about friends during our
time today and your, your friendat that time, was like hey,
this is really cool, I'm intothis, I'm going to share it with
this other person I know, andhe easily could have not, right?
And so you know that lesson ofyou, of you know share, share

(01:13:01):
what you're into with yourpeople around you, because you
never know who is going to beinfluenced by it.
Like you said, he did it formaybe a little bit, and it was
just a little passing fad oflike this seems cool.
But you know he passed it alongto you and you, you know, ran
with it and became such a partof your life and if he hadn't
had shared it, that wouldn'thave happened.

Speaker 1 (01:13:19):
So for some reason it became an obsession, kind of
like what you're saying it was.

Speaker 3 (01:13:23):
It was weird, yeah yeah, that's not complaining, no
, and and host doing.
Enough of these episodes now,like I think we're not surprised
as hosts, we we see it so oftenas you all go through your
journey of these six songs andyou start to see like just the

(01:13:43):
songs pick you and theysometimes don't make any sense,
but like just play this hugerole in your life for some
reason.
It's been, it's been reallyinteresting to watch across
across all our guests and andyou've shown today that that
still holds true.
Doesn't make any sense why itwas the black ips, but damn it,
it was it was, it was.

Speaker 2 (01:14:03):
We're not quite done yet.
We're gonna kick it over toraza, who's just gonna wrap us
up with our lightning round ohgod yes yes, yes yeah, not to
put you on the spot.

Speaker 4 (01:14:14):
Yeah, I don't like this, let's go let's do it all
right, we'll keep it very, verysimple.
Basically, what we want to knowis what was your first, last
and best or favorite concertexperience?

Speaker 1 (01:14:28):
shit.
First concert experience, thefirst one I ever went to, that I
can remember like that I wentto on my own and not, like you
know, parents bringing you tosomething, maybe when you're
young or that.

Speaker 2 (01:14:40):
Yeah, I I think however you want to answer it?

Speaker 1 (01:14:42):
I think the answer is I wouldn't be able to answer
that one because it was probablyfor a band that I never was
interested in because it waslike you know, whatever, but the
first thing, that I ever wentto.
I went to see we came as romans.
Uh, when I was a senior in highschool with a friend which
again was off the same, like youknow, kind of emo hardcore
track as that we talked, which Iheard sleeping with sirens.

(01:15:02):
There had no idea who they wereat the time, right Like I, we
were listening to him on the onthe car ride down to the concert
.
I'm like I don't know if Iliked them or not, right, and
now they're one of my favoritebands, which actually is like a
lot of my favorite bands, whereI don't know if I liked them at
the start of it, and then I likelike circus survive.
I, my friend, tried to show methem like 20 times and I was
like nah, nah, favorite band

Speaker 3 (01:15:21):
um, and it's just it's funny how that works.

Speaker 1 (01:15:23):
Um, now unfortunately they're not banned anymore, but
they were, um.
But the point is it was we cameas romans.
It was like a lineup of likefive bands.
It was like sleeping withsirens.
We came as romans with theheadliner.
There was like emir, which Inever listened to, but they were
doing breakdowns every fivefucking seconds in that goddamn
song and I'm pretty sure I got aconcussion from it because

(01:15:43):
someone was crowd surfing.
They threw them from behind andwe were so far in the front and
it was my first concert I had nofucking idea right right these
people open up pits and they doslam dancing where they're
kicking and shit I think it'sgoofy because I just like who
wants to kick people in the face.
But you know what, if people,if people like that that's
totally, that's totally theirprerogative.
I don't want to be in thosepits, though, so I was trying to

(01:16:04):
avoid that, but then someonegot thrown from behind me and I
wasn't aware, and they landed onmy head, I don't know for the
rest of that band set.
I'm pretty sure I had aconcussion for that.
Um favorite concert, you saidfirst favorite and last, right
yeah okay, first go ahead.

(01:16:25):
Yeah, yeah, first you go for ityou go first.
What were you gonna say?
Oh, that was it okay firstconcert, last concert favorite
was bring me the horizon.
Absolutely was one of my toplike three bands of all time um
uh cassie.
My wife bought us tickets a fewyears back and we went to one
of their concerts.
Like three bands of all time.
Um uh cassie.
My wife bought us tickets a fewyears back and we went to one
of their concerts here they wereplaying at, like uh, george

(01:16:45):
mason or something like that,like the patriot center or
something like that and um,fucking phenomenal dude like
it's.
I just love everything about theband and their stage presence.
Everything loved it, um.
And plus we know every word toevery single song they play, so
you know it makes it very easyto like sing everything out loud
, even though I can't screamsome of the stuff we still try
um.
The last concert was also bringme the horizon with uh fallout

(01:17:10):
boy.
Um, if all boy it's like it'sfunny because bringing the
horizon in my head's a headliner, but fallout boy was headlining
right I guess, but number wisea lot bigger and they were
playing at jiffy lube live, um.
So it's very weird seeingbringing the horizon open, but
we were primarily there for theone of the openers that we say
for fallout blakes are also likea classic and you know yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:17:29):
So um, I think fallout boy gets the uh sort of
legacy.
You know, street cred right Imean kind of.

Speaker 1 (01:17:37):
Their music is still good, though, like even some of
them.
Like we heard, I didn't listento a lot of their new stuff.
Prior to getting ready for theconcert, we started listening to
the music and I I just I likeda lot of their new stuff too but
I think probably bring me, thehorizon is probably way heavier
oh god, yeah, that's why it wasso funny when you were there for
the openers and like bringingthe horizons, like going fucking

(01:17:59):
crazy and screaming andbreakdowns and all the people
here like we're here for fall.

Speaker 4 (01:18:03):
Oh boy, we want to dance, you know, and we're just
like yeah, you know, and allthat shit.

Speaker 1 (01:18:08):
So it's funny, um, because it's just like it was a
completely different vibe andthey were playing like it was
still light outside, so it waslike it wasn't like what the
normal vibe would be right,right, so it's kind of funny
looking around seeing that.
But oh, another good concert.
I went to into coheed andcambria in colorado because we
were.
We were out in colorado likewait, shit, they're playing, so
we drove like an extra two hoursto go see them play.
That was also wild um that's agreat band too, oh yeah and,

(01:18:32):
like I remember, specificallyagain prepping for that concert,
she learned she likes to learnevery lyric to every song prior
to the concerts.
So we were listening to kohilike on loop going to colorado,
so we, I knew every word, eventhough I was just like kind of
like just listening to them atthat point too was that at red
rocks by chance in coloradogreat question I have no idea I

(01:18:56):
mean, was it like an outdooramphitheater?

Speaker 4 (01:18:57):
that's like the coolest you know.
Yeah, no, no, no it wasn't thatone.

Speaker 1 (01:19:01):
No, no, I know you're talking.
It was not that one um, yeah,that one was the one with all
the red rocks we drove, we drove, we drove by that one um, but
we never, we never actually wentthere because I think we just
thought I don't know we were, wejust went out to.
We got a cabin out in themiddle of the fucking woods in
colorado.
It was dope as shit like it waslike you get to the fucking
cabin you had to drive like 30minutes on some back bumpy road.

(01:19:23):
We're like where the fuck arewe going?
We're gonna die, um, that'swhat we thought.
But um did not die and saw acool concert.
So that was good sounds like awin man successful trip.
That wasn't very quick of aquick round.

Speaker 3 (01:19:36):
I'm so sorry to be honest, they never are, so we
designed it to be a lightning.

Speaker 2 (01:19:41):
Almost every guest yeah, it's like, it's almost
like everyone that comes on likefinishes or six stars and we're
like, hey, you're done, we madeit.
And then it's like we just dothis and people are like, okay,
I can just talk, and it's like,yeah, I just want to tell these
stories about concerts, becauseit happens every guest meanwhile
, I'm running you guys almost upto two hours right now because
I just keep yapping baby, let'sgo next one, next question,

(01:20:02):
let's do it.

Speaker 3 (01:20:02):
Power of editing well , this is, this is, this is for
real.
Now the wrap-up um this is youknow, before, before we kind of
sign off for for our audiencetoday, in the last couple of
minutes we have left, we'd loveto kind of give you the floor to
, to let the audience know whatyou've got going on, um, how
folks can check you out.
And yeah, the floor is yours.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:20:22):
So I create videos on YouTube.
I guess right now I'm focusinga lot on short form content, but
I need to get back to long form.
So you can find me on TikTok,instagram.
For some reason, snapchatvideos do okay, facebook's a
thing.
So I kind of have platformseverywhere, primarily YouTube,
though, for Tyler WT-Y-L-a-d-u-b-y-a.
Um, I'm a beatboxer and I teacha little bit, but I guess I'm

(01:20:44):
going to try to start probablyshifting more to the
entertainment side of things,because I feel like that reaches
a larger audience.
Um, and if you want to makethis a career, you have to reach
a larger audience.
So that's that's what I'm goingto be trying to do.
So if you want to, if you wantto check out some beatboxing and
some dumb shit, come check meout on YouTube.

Speaker 2 (01:21:00):
All right, tyler.
Yes, it was so great having youon and teaching us all about
beatboxing, and so we'd love foryou to play us out with some
backing tracks.
All right, everybody, this hasbeen another episode of A Life
in Six Songs.
Thank you so much for listeningand watching.
You all know what to do Like,follow, subscribe on whatever

(01:21:21):
platform you are doing.
Right now, you can find us onYouTube and all the platforms
where you get your podcasts, andwith that, this has been a life
in six songs.
Tyler, take us out.
Awesome, it's amazing.

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