October 1, 2024 • 57 mins
On this episode, we sit down with Kim Segrave, a wife, mom, and flight attendant based out of Australia, who loves to push her physical boundaries and show her kids how to believe in themselves. Kim shares her life story through 6 anthemic songs, from Bon Jovi’s “Livin’ on a Prayer” and Matchbox 20’s “3am” to Justin Timberlake’s “Can’t Stop the Feeling” and Zedd’s “The Middle. Kim shares about loss through the songs “Choir” by Guy Sebastian and “Tomorrow” by Silverchair, both fellow Australians. This episode is both touching and moving and will also have you dancing and pumping your fist in the air. A perfect celebration of the ups and downs in life.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Hey everybody, welcome to another episode of A
Life in Six Songs.
I am your host, David Rees, andI'm joined by my co-hosts,
Carolina and Raza.
Hi there, Hello For those ofyou new to the podcast.
Each week, we embark on an epicadventure to find the songs
that are stuck to us likeaudible tattoos, that tell the
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story of who we are and wherewe've been, to help us figure
out where we're going.
It's a life story told throughsix songs.
We approach our conversationswith love, kindness and
curiosity to counter theprevalence of hate, anger and
judgment in the world.
Our goal is that by listeningto these stories, you can bring
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more love, kindness andcuriosity into your own life.
With that, let's go have alisten together.
Our guest today is KimmySeagrave.
Kimmy is a wife and mom wholoves to push her physical
boundaries and show her kids howto believe in themselves.
She loves showing them how tobe good humans through their
thoughts and actions.
A flight attendant based out ofAustralia, she loves a good
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mantra and affirmation.
Kimmy, welcome to A Life in SixSongs.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Oh, we're glad to be here.
We're glad that you're here.
I mean, we're glad that we'rehere too, obviously, but we're
glad that you're here and we'reglad that we were able to make
this work, with us being in theStates and you down under in
Australia, that we're able toyou down under in Australia,
that we're able to, you know,line it up and get you on.
So let's go ahead and get intoit.
Before we get into your sixsongs, just to kind of warm us
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up and get us going.
You know what is it about musicand the role that it plays in
your life that wanted you to bea guest on this show.
You know, kind of how do yousee music fitting into your life
?
Speaker 1 (02:25):
um fitting into my life it's, it's like an everyday
.
You know, um, set, set the tone, set the mood, um, you can put
it on.
You know, if you're feelingdown, bring you up.
Um, yeah, if I'm on my way tothe gym, I can really get pumped
by a certain song or feelingfrom a song.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Yeah, absolutely, Absolutely.
I love that.
Well, with that, I'm going topass it over to Carolina.
Who's going to get us goingwith your first question and
your first song?
Speaker 3 (02:59):
Oh, all right.
So to start us off, I thinkit's so great we hear lots of
stories of folks when they werefirst exposed to like bands or
artists and how it kind ofrocked their world.
And so, for your first song,what's a memorable time for you
when you were first exposed to aband or artist's music?
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Well, I also did a lot of dancing when I was
younger so it was never reallymy selection of songs, but I was
exposed to music.
But my older sister it wouldhave been when she living on a
prayer, bon Jovi pumping out inthe car she really found that
band and then she snuck out ofthe house and went to their
concert, got grounded for life,yeah, so I think for me that
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would make it really memorable.
It was one of those ones whenyou were younger really
impressionable, yeah, andbecause of the story that she
got grounded for life.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Absolutely.
Yeah, let's take a quick listenand then we can chat some more.
On the other side, here we go,living on a prayer.
If you haven't, heard this song.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Here it is.
How does it feel hearing it now?
Oh, it's actually it's on theplaylist in the gym at the
moment.
So we have, like you know, likeI train every day and it's one
of those things and I could bemid anything Anyone who does
watch me on social media likethis song has been on our
playlist and it comes on andthat's it.
I'm off, like like all the way.
It just, it's just and that'sit.
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I'm off, like all the way.
It's just one of those thingsthat just comes in and comes out
.
You know, you're like I don'tknow.
Bon Jovi, how can you not lovehim?
Speaker 4 (05:16):
Absolutely Bon Jovi, especially this song.
It sounds better, I think, nowthan it did even.
It's like every year, it getsbetter and better.
This song, um, and this is fromthe 80s, right, this is, this
is uh, this is from the glorydays of, uh, glam metal it is
90s, let's get, let's get inthere.
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There you go late 80s it'sbetter and better, though,
though I love this song.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
And, like I said, you know, itdoesn't matter where you are,
like in the gym, it just comeson and it just comes out Like
your fist pumping, you're liketurned to someone and you're
like yes.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Yeah, absolutely when you first, when your older
sister like shared this with you, was this like just a brand new
, like genre, or were you likekind of a little bit into this,
but this was just somethingdifferent, sort of like.
What was that experience likefor you when you first, when you
first heard it?
Speaker 1 (06:19):
like I did dancing and things like that, so it was
more the classical side.
Then you'd have, like you know,back in the 80s the jazz sort
of types of music, and then yourolder sister brings this like
almost like rock band in, youknow, and it's like oh my gosh.
And it still does for me todaywhat it did back then.
(06:40):
Like you know, you just sort ofyou can't help but move, you
can't help but you jump aroundand all that sort of stuff and
just have it.
I don't know your blood pumpsfaster and you, um, yeah it,
just it, yeah, no matter when Ilisten to it.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Like I said on the playlist right now, like even
today in this class, it justwent off yeah, I think it's like
totally one of those like feelgood anthem type songs they were
they were doing an interviewwith, with john bon jovi um,
here in the states they theyrecently released like a
docu-series about his life andthe band and stuff like that and
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so he was doing interviews forit.
Um, and he talks about how helike suspects sometimes that he
gets invited to weddings justbecause people want to hear him
sing this song and so like theywon't ask ahead of time.
It'll be like mid-wedding andpeople will be like the band
will start playing.
It'll be like come on, john,and he obliges, like every time.
But I think, yeah, it's one ofthose songs that like it just
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makes everyone feel really good,no matter what you like crowd,
stand up, start fist pumping andsinging it at the top of their
lungs.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
Yeah, it's just good stuff yeah, absolutely,
absolutely so your sister got introuble, but you came away with
lifelong uh bon jovi, uh fandomabsolutely, absolutely um right
absolutely.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
And uh, she like I mean back in the 80s, big hair
and everything, and they I livedabout an hour from sydney on
the train, so they all snuck out, jumped on a train, went to
sydney, went to the concert Idon't even know how she got
tickets, like she was, she'sknow, sort of eight years older
than me and she ended up gettingthe guitar pick and for years
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she wore it around her neck, youknow, and so to me that's yeah,
like I mean, like she gotgrounded for life, but she
thought that was, you know,worth it.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
So worth it.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Absolutely no regrets there, yeah, and there's those
things when you you're, whenyou're a kid that you're no, you
know you're gonna get introuble for, and you're just
like I'm doing it anyway,because what it is is is worth
it like I don't care whathappens exactly like.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
I mean, there's so many the.
The context of that now is justcompletely different.
You, you would never sort ofjust go, I'm gonna go on a train
an hour away.
I I think they were like theywould have been 14 or 15, you
know sort of thing.
But I think for me that makesme sort of remember that time in
my life, because of the storyas well, not only the anthem to
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what it meant and the song andhow you feel, but yeah, just
almost like a rebel.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Yeah, yeah, like I don't know how kids would do
that nowadays, even with likeeveryone's got cell phones and
stuff, and like you track themand stuff, like you know, and
our daughter does it to us too,like you know, like you know
where it's.
Just like we talked about likeit was a different time where
you could do these types ofthings.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Yeah, I also like too that it's like the song is
living on a prayer.
We're talking about your oldersister like doing this, like,
yeah, she's living on a prayer.
Like, just like we're going togo to this concert and with a
prayer hope, you know, it goesall right and the grounding
isn't too bad.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
That's right, all right.
So, in keeping with the sort ofspirit of music like taking us
back, you know, to good times orother times, sometimes music
has like a really seared memoryof a specific time or place.
So for your next song, what,what is that song?
That like when you hear it,you're just instantly taken to
(10:30):
that specific time or place um,it'd have to be tomorrow by
silver chair.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Um, I actually went to school um an hour away from
where silver chair went toschool and there was this thing
called the battle of the bands.
Okay, so our high school, theirhigh school, you know, each
month I think it was, they wouldlike send a group and they'd
come and you know sort of.
You know it was, yeah, battleof the band, so everyone would
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go up against it.
It was a bit of a like I don'tknow if you call it a round
robin, like when you competeagainst a group of you know
teams or whatever, and so I haveseen Silverchair before they
were even on the world stage andit just takes me back.
But then there's songs thisparticular one was also, you
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know, teenage years, whenunfortunate things happen.
So that always, sort ofwhenever I hear it, it just yeah
, you sort of you're takenstraight back to that time.
So not only do you feel likeyou know the band, but the song
really resonated with.
You know some sad times.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Let's take a quick listen.
I guarantee if you're watchingthe show right now and you're
like Silver Chair Tomorrow Idon't know if I know that one I
guarantee if you're an elder,millennial, gen x you will know
this song, no matter where youwere.
I know in the states it washuge.
So here we go, silver chairthere's no bathroom and there is
no sink the water out of thetap is very Hard to drink, very
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hard to drink.
How's it feel hearing it now?
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Yeah, straight back, straight back to sitting in that
school hall.
We had an elevated stage andthey were just kids, you know,
just having a band and that sortof thing.
So this one, there was a bigcar accident and it took three
of my friends.
Wow, you know, they were onlyyoung, year 11, which is our
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second last year, and it wasthat time they were coming from
one of these battle of vans, youknow.
So they'd sort of jam out andplay.
The car was overloaded, youknow, the horror stories were
here and hopefully our childrenhave learnt from things like
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this.
So there were three of them.
That was really sad.
And then there was another onewho couldn't see it out by
himself.
So we all know, without sort ofsaying, how that ended.
But so this song, this band,you know, a good and a sad
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response to the memories of it.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Absolutely.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
I remember these guys were super young themselves,
the band, the band members.
I remember.
It was right around the sort ofalternative sort of wave guys
were super young themselves, theband, the band members I
remember there were, there was,it was, it was right around the
sort of alternative sort of waveum, and you know there's I'm
sure we've all heard about thesethe sort of the curse of the
age um, age 27, right, which isjim morrison, janice joplin,
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kurt cobain, and, and, and sothese guys remember came, came
out right around the time of thesort of alternative rock music.
But they were younger, they werelike 10 years younger than yeah
kurt cobain's, uh, and then theother sort of alternative bands
back then, um and then yeah, sothey fully represented that
sort of teen.
You know, rebellion, angst andall of that, um, um, but yeah,
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no, um, and and I'm sorry aboutthe story, the story that's
attached to it for you, you knowit's, it's, it's, it's a really
, it's a really sad one.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Yeah, yeah, um, and, and, as the funny thing is, um,
I don't know if you know howmuch behind Silverchair, they
actually come from a town calledMorissette, which is near
Newcastle, sort of an hour southof Newcastle but an hour north
of where I grew up and there wasa mental asylum there.
So the music that was comingout always had that sort of
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stigma that these guys you knowwere really troubled, I mean
it's well written, when youlisten to the lyrics, it
actually tells a story fromtheir soul, sort of thing were
really troubled.
And I mean, it's well written.
When you listen to the lyricsit actually tells a you know, it
tells a story from their soul,sort of thing.
But I think because they comefrom that town where that had
that stigma around it, it makesa very interesting sort of you
know.
And then they obviously, youknow, went crazy and everyone
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knows who they are.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Yeah, yeah, totally.
I love that too and Iappreciate you one sharing the
story of the loss and thetragedy.
I mean, it's one of thosethings where you know,
unfortunately a lot of us havesimilar stories like that right
around those times and, like yousaid, you know, when you're in
those teen years, young 20s,like you said, people are
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traveling together in groups incars and things.
So when something a car crashor or or something happens it it
we, we tend to lose a number ofpeople in it at that time.
Right Like you said, you've gotbands traveling together.
You know sports teams, whateverit might might be, and so it
always makes it like that much,that much harder because of that
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.
You know sports teams, whateverit might might be, and so it
always makes it like that much,that much harder because of that
you know.
So thank you for sharing thatand thank you for sharing the
the geography aspect of wherethey were from and and relation
to you.
We joke on this show that we'relike we're a music podcast, but
we also are like a pseudo kindof like geography, cause you
know we talk like we're alwayssomewhere when we're listening
to music and like you know thecousin who introduces us to a
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song comes from somewhere, andso this music is always tied to
us and experiences, but alwaystied to a place too, in that
sense, and so I appreciate yousharing that, that aspect of it
well, australia has a reallyawesome sort of connection to,
to um, to rock music I thinkspecifically.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
I mean, you know it doesn't get any more sort of you
know, uh, better connected thanlike acdc, for example, right,
absolutely.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
I mean lots that, lots of memories there.
You know, like you know, beingan 80s kid, you know that your
parents would just put that thecassette in in the, the old
commodore car which you guyswouldn't know.
It was like a gm for you guys.
Everyone had one.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
You know these commodore cars and they put the
cassette in and, you know, playit until it was stretched yeah,
absolutely that was a thing youcould play a cassette too much
to where, like like this, heapwould like get like thin and
then it would like unravel andyou'd have to take a pencil and
like oh the things people don'thave to do anymore absolutely
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like they'd have no idea.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Like, like, when they release a song here in
Australia, you guys would get itand it literally would have to
be shipped, like the CDs or therecords or the cassettes would
have to be shipped to Australiaand then broadcast, or whatever.
I think I get to it later.
Actually, no, I don't think.
(17:59):
But you know, like recording onyour boom box from the top 100,
you know, because we didn'thave live stream, we didn't have
just by the song, um, and thosesorts of things.
Uh, I was discussing with my,with my mom, um, about this and,
um, she said she skipped schoolto, actually, when the beatles
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came to, came to Australia andshe remembers having, yeah, and
she remembers getting the record.
She used all of her money, youknow, to save her money and she
bought this one, like, and shesaid it was a little tiny, a
tiny record, you know, but theybasically had to bring that to
Australia when they were coming,because it wasn't.
(18:41):
Yeah, just a quick download, umsort of thing.
So yeah, music is just, it'sleaps and bounds, and and how
much closer I feel with everyone, like just doing something like
this yeah right right.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
I'm finding it super interesting that your mom did
kind of what your sister did,like it's so hard.
Then you have kids and they dolike the shit you did and you're
like, damn, I want to be mad atyou, but I also did that too
you know, I can't let you getaway with it so like you're
grounded for life, yeah, forlife, yeah absolutely.
(19:18):
Oh my goodness, oh so truethat's a great story all right,
um for for our next song.
Uh, sometimes we have musicthat um is just intimately tied
to like a specific activity whenwe're doing them.
You know, a book, um, a tripyou took, what is a song for you
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that that's intimately tied tosome kind of activity?
Speaker 1 (19:47):
So the one that really comes to mind is I worked
in a summer camp, which is howI have gotten to know you guys
over the years, through people.
I came to summer camp in NorthCarolina.
I was the tennis instructoryeah, tennis instructor and it
was these courts that were likeat the top end of the camp and
oh my gosh, they were as boringas batshit, and so I hadn't been
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exposed to Walmart.
So I ducked over to Walmart andbought a boom box and CDs were
just coming out, and Matchbox 20was the CD that we blasted all
summer from the back of thecourt just to have some
atmosphere up there, becausewe're kind of up in the hill
part of this camp.
And, yeah, the kids found ithilarious and it just takes me
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right back to that activity.
And then, like, obviously I'vegot gyms and comps that I do and
things like that, but this onewould have to be as soon as you
hear it.
It takes me straight back tothat tennis court with those
little kids who are probablygrown adults right now let's uh,
let's go back to that tenniscourt, matchbox 23 am.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Let's go back to that tennis court, matchbox 23.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
AM.
So how old were you when youwere doing this camp?
I was 18.
So I'd finished all of myschooling here in Australia,
jumped on a flight straight overthere and, yeah, went straight
to this summer camp and I endedup doing it for about four years
in a row, um, so you got toknow these kids quite well there
is something about this songlike I don't know.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
It takes me, like, immediately back to a college
bar when I was like there issomething and I know I think
that's what like the song'sabout, but like there's just
something about this song thatplaces you at places in your
life.
It doesn't feel like a casualsong you just listen to on the
radio.
It's like seared into people.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
I feel like yeah, yeah, yeah, because you couldn't
escape the song right, it wasso kind of everywhere like kind
of everywhere, and I don't Idon't mean that in a, in a in a
bad way, like oh it was, but butlike everybody has a connection
, I think, to this song in someway, because it was just so kind
of everywhere, like if you werethe right age let's say you
know, kind of thing.
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So yeah, everybody's probablygot a place that puts you with
this.
Speaker 4 (22:36):
Yeah, I remember I was at UF when I first heard the
song and Mashbox 20, I thinkthey were from Orlando, so there
was, and we were up in sort ofslightly north of Orlando, but
it was still like a Floridastate, of Florida type
connection.
And then, right after this songis when Rob Thomas, the singer,
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went solo and he had that hugehit with the uh, with uh, with
Carlos Santana, um, but, butyeah, but so.
So this song, like you said itwas, it was everywhere, it was
completely you know.
It blew up, it was on, it wason VH1 back when VH1 used to be
a thing, um, and then uh, andthen that it was, it was, it was
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all about rob thomas and and hejust sort of went solo.
But yeah, it's good song.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
I like this one.
He was super cute.
I totally had a crush on robthomas yeah yeah so you could,
but wasn't, wasn't your jam, itwasn't my jam um.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
He was busy crushing on James Hetfield.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
Was this just a random CD you all picked up, or
you knew who Matchbox 20 was andyou found it at the Walmart.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
I think I found it at the Walmart it was just yeah,
it was one of those things.
I hadn't heard it it I don'tthink.
Like I said, australia gotthings later, even the CD things
.
We got a lot later than youguys.
And I would have gone from oursummer to your summer.
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So, like now, the whole thingis completely different, as in
things come out for our summerso that they can haul it over to
your summer as well, like ananthem.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Oh, uh-huh.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
You know what I mean, like a song that might, you
know, be something good in Vegas.
They sort of think, okay, thisis going to be our summer anthem
for whatever year, and theybring it out here first to see
if it really takes off as well,right, right, there's no time
lapse.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
You kind of get to, yeah, you get to check it out
Like a test market.
Yeah, in the SouthernHemisphere's summer, before you
send it to the NorthernHemisphere's summer.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Yeah, or sometimes I think they might release
something for your summer and ifit really takes off, then they
really sort of, you know, bringit down under Right right.
I mean, we do know someone whomight know the answer to that.
You know, Roz.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
Yeah, I think I'm going to have to plead the fifth
on this one.
Sorry, guys.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
No, I sort of was implying Mr mr, mr tim, mr tim
might know.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
Oh right, yeah yeah, yeah, I mean he's, you know, we
have a mutual friend basically,and I think we'll get to the
story there the encyclopedia ofuh, of music and, and I think
especially things like um,things that we can really nerd
out on from a music perspective.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Yeah, Nice Absolutely , absolutely.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
Yeah, phone a friend yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Yeah.
So like I mean, like I said,you know, sometimes it comes out
here first and then it didn'treally take off.
But then I see it in Americaand I'm like, oh my gosh, you
guys love this.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
Well, I'm glad you found this cd because, like, I
don't know what would havehappened if you would have found
some like horrible music thatyou all hated it and you were
like stuck listening to it allsummer.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
So like not bad, yeah , yeah, um, the whole, I, I.
Lucky it wasn't a cassette,because it would have been
walked by the end of the summerright, right, especially sitting
outside in a boom box, you knowin the heat of the summer would
have justmelted well, yeah, that was
north carolina a little littlecooler than florida, but yes,
(26:30):
still hot was was north carolina, your first exposure to coming
to america like to the states no, I actually danced for disney
um when I first finished highschool here, so I went over with
a troupe and applied for a jobdancing for Disney.
So I was there for six monthsand then came straight across
(26:51):
for your summer in NorthCarolina, met some friends,
moved to Florida, hung out withthem, worked a little down there
and then went back to NorthCarolina and it went on for a
couple of years.
So it was kind of the secondexperience.
The first one.
I kind of did go a bit nuts,you know, when you land in
Anaheim and check it all out asyou do.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
For sure, for sure.
Well, it is the happiest placeon earth.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Well, yeah, it is, it is.
Yeah, I did go back there umwith without another mutual
friend um probably five yearsago and it it had changed quite
a bit, but it still had thatundertone, so that's good good
stuff, all right.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
Well, um, thinking, thinking now to just other
aspects of of life and music.
Sometimes music can be therekind of as a friend, um, when
times are tough.
And so for your next song,kimmy, what's the song that
helped you through a reallydifficult time or situation?
Speaker 1 (27:59):
okay, I'm gonna have to apologize in advance.
Um, I lost my dad five yearsago well, coming up to five
years ago, and it was um atypical response for australia
melanoma, um skin cancer, but umthat actually was on his brain
(28:26):
and you know it literally he wasdiagnosed in the February and
gone in the October.
So, so rapid, so rapid.
But every time I used to helived at that time he lived
about an hour away from where Ilive and I would my kids were
little I would put them in theback of the car, drive out there
(28:46):
, because my mum had dropped himand you know she couldn't lift
him, she couldn't do stuff, orwe'd go out to visit him or
whatever.
You just do what you do and Iwould never change it.
You know, I think I did what Icould and as much as I could
sort of thing, but every time Iwould leave there the Guy
Sebastian song choir would play.
(29:09):
Now that is also if you listento the lyrics and I researched
it, guy Sebastian actually wroteit for a friend who took his
own life, so it kind of wasabout death but being beautiful
and reuniting and things likethat.
But every time and whenever Ithink of my dad, that song,
within like 10 minutes, willcome on, like just all of a
(29:33):
sudden.
You know.
So yeah, just an amazing little, you know, I don't know, and
the first bit gets me, chokes meup.
I just start to sort of andthen I sort of overcome with
like almost gratitude andrelease and relief that you can
let go and just sing through thesong I'm the world's worst
(29:56):
singer, but you know and singalong with it and just sort of
sit in that space.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Yeah, let's take a listen.
I think I have the choruspulled up.
Is the clip we're going tolisten to, so Wow.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
It gets you every time.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
What does it feel like hearing it?
Speaker 1 (30:44):
Oh, just, I know it's going to sound really corny,
but like you're sitting thereand I think because the song is
written about dying and suicideand I don't know, I don't know
it, just it just resonates,makes you cry, but yeah, just as
if like he's there saying it'sOK, I gotcha, I'm here.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Mm, hmm, yeah, absolutely yeah.
And the way you describe thesong too, and it's like not a
lot of songs can do kind of whatthis song does.
You know, I encourage everyoneto go, you know, find the song
and listen to the whole thingbecause, like Kimmy you said,
the first verse is is is thetough part?
Right, it's about the loss andit's about and it's like the
(31:32):
music is different, and then itlike, and so it gets you into
that moment, like okay, we are,we are talking about loss and
you know, uh, these, these,these difficult, uh issues, and
then the chorus hits and it'sgot this like lift to it where
you know it's like, hey, I lostyou and I miss you, but hey, I
(31:52):
know you're up there, I know I'mgonna see you soon, those kinds
of things.
Yeah, just a really powerfulsong for that.
Speaker 4 (32:00):
Yeah, I think it definitely requires another
listen for some of us whohaven't heard this one before,
because as I was listening tothat clip, to me it sounded like
those songs where there's sortof a duality to them that the
lyrics are are one way, but themusic is something else.
(32:22):
Right, the music, especially inin in the clip that we heard.
The music definitely soundsuplifting and sort of you know,
joyous and and and and almostlike a celebration.
And almost like a celebration,yeah, but obviously when you say
that it's tied to somethinglike grief and loss and things
like that, it takes you to adifferent, it has different
meaning.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
But yeah, yeah, and when I kept hearing the song at
that point when I'd drive homefrom my mom and dad's or any
point when I heard it, I didn'tknow, until I sort of researched
it, that it was actually abouthis best mate that actually took
his own life.
So yeah, just like yeah,music's amazing.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
And that can be sometimes just thinking about
the subject matter, but the waythe artist chose to do it right,
how David's saying that thesong starts out more somber and
then gets more uplifting, likethat's kind of how grief is.
You know there's like thismissing piece and then there's
this like remembering fondlypiece, and then you know it's
(33:31):
not always sad it comes in wavesand comes and goes and ups and
downs.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
You know, yeah, yeah, and some days I can, I can
choke up in like the first lineand then I'm, I'm completely
fine, and then other times Ijust hear it and it just, you
know, you just cry um yeah yes,totally and well, and another
australian artist, oh yeah, yes,the the little bit of music
(34:05):
trivia.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
Yeah, uh, guy sebastian won the first season
of an australian idol in 2003.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
So for all of us.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
US folks, that's, that's.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
And he actually, um he's.
He's not musically trained.
From what I remember, um he, hewas self-taught.
He actually came from a very umreligious family where music
was taboo.
And he, he was not allowed todo it unless it was a Christian.
You know music and things likethat, and then he managed to
break away from that.
So I think he's an amazing man,an amazing character.
He writes, you know, and justthe philosophy behind him and
(34:46):
you know, like I follow him onsocial media and things like
that and his wife they're justreally beautiful people and
they've got that balance nowbetween their religion, religion
, their home life, their music,their family life I think, you
know, if you're watching thisguy, I think you've got got it
balanced yeah, and it makes themusic better when you kind of
(35:08):
like the artist, you know yeah,absolutely
yeah he has gone away from the,the big fro he had when he won
Idol.
So yeah, worth a watch, worth awatch.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
Will do.
Yeah, definitely, definitelyEveryone go check out that first
season of Australian Idol.
Yeah, Guy.
Sebastian winning it all.
Speaker 4 (35:30):
Was it Simon Cowell over there too?
In that version I may begetting the shows wrong.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
I'm trying to think back.
I think he did do the first one.
Speaker 4 (35:44):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
I think, yeah, yeah, it sort of came out here, I
think, marsha Hines, who'sanother Australian one.
I've got a feeling she was thefirst.
Yeah, don't hold me to it.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
No worries, yes, no worries, yes, no worries.
Exactly.
So we'll take a bit of a pivothere.
Um to to somethinglight-hearted that makes you
feel really good.
Um, what is a song from a moviethat is seared into your mind?
You can't think of the moviewithout thinking about the song,
and vice versa oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
Um, there are so many .
There are so many um, but it'dhave to be recently.
Um, I can't stop that feelingby justin timberlake from the
trolls movie.
Um, I have a vehicle that has aum um video like a TV screen in
the ceiling.
And obviously driving betweenmy dad and our house.
(36:40):
That sort of thing was an hour.
The children watched that movieover and over and over but it
also made you feel better andhappier sort of thing coming out
of there.
I have never seen the movie,but I could recite it.
Speaker 3 (36:59):
That's hilarious.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
I've only heard the movie I haven't seen the movie.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
Yep, yep, I love that yeah, and it's just one of
those.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
You can't.
You can't not feel happy whenit comes on sort of thing.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Absolutely.
Yeah, let's, let's take alisten and I'll uh uh feel happy
.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
so just dance, dance, dance amen for children's
(37:48):
movies that have goodsoundtracks, because I feel like
when we were they were terribleand now they like make a real
effort and just makes the movieso much better.
Oh, absolutely, absolutely yeah, yeah, one day.
It makes it easier on theparents yeah, totally, because
(38:08):
we're stuck with whatever ourkids are watching over and over
on repeat and when it sucks,that makes just for a harder
time for parents.
So and amen for this soundtrackand some of them never like.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
This always makes you feel happy, but sometimes you
hear that song in in a child'smovie and you're like I want to
break that, that record or, youknow, stop downloading it yes,
because you're okay.
It was great for the firstmillion times.
Now I'm yeah, but this one no.
This one always makes you feelgood.
Speaker 4 (38:41):
There's a period of time I guess in the last, I
don't know, maybe 10 years or sowhere it's like one animated
movie after the other, and forsome reason the soundtracks have
just been amazing.
I think the Trolls movie wasone.
There was one I think it wasInside Out.
Oh yes, and there was anotherone called Soul.
(39:03):
I think actually Trent Reznordid the movie, did some of the
music for that.
But yeah, it's like one afterthe other, even the Disney
movies, and then they come upwith these really amazing
soundtracks to go along withthem.
You hire the pop stars to giveit some gravitas.
It's amazing.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
And on different levels.
You know, the kids get it hereand the parents get it here.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
Right yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
A hundred percent.
I like that.
Speaker 4 (39:30):
The test is if I can stay awake through the first 15
minutes, it's a hit.
Usually Are you a hit usually.
Speaker 3 (39:37):
Are you a faller, a sleeper in movies?
Speaker 4 (39:40):
Terrible.
I'm terrible, I am horrible.
Oh, my goodness and my kidsmake so much fun of me.
Especially when they wereyounger they had this whole
routine.
They're like oh yeah, dad, assoon as that, like the um, like
the universal, you knowuniversal studios, oh sure, as
soon as the universal studioscredit comes up, he's out cold.
(40:02):
And it makes so much fun of me,that's hilarious, oh my gosh
yeah and then give me, give mesomething from like 1983 and I
will watch it, you know, onrepeat, no problem, a newer
cartoon out cold.
Speaker 2 (40:24):
Kimmy, thank you for sharing this one and I'm so glad
this was.
This came up in yourquestionnaire and we and we we
have it here in the show, in theinterview, because it just
speaks to you know, the wholepremise of what we're trying to
get at with our show here of,like, how music just is, is
there and can be so powerful andlock us into a moment, things,
and so you know I love how this,you know, came up and it's this
(40:47):
memory of music that's, that'sin you but tied to you and your,
your kids.
Right, it's this moment whereit's like that usually can be so
like frustrating andchallenging, right, driving the
kids in the car and like youknow and they're unhappy or
they're frustrated, they'retired, they're hungry, whatever,
and it's like here's this kindof you know song that that is
(41:09):
locked into this happy momentfor it, and so I just really
appreciate the story.
So, thank you.
Speaker 3 (41:16):
Love that, All right.
Well, we have arrived at yourlast song, and for this one I
think we haven't I don't knowthat we've had this a guest
answered this particularquestion yet, so I'm super
pumped about it.
It's what's?
A song that reminds you of justa good friend or a group of
(41:38):
friends?
Speaker 1 (41:40):
oh, I have known these two um people for over
half my life.
I met them when I came toamerica and um introduced
through someone, and then I wasthere the day they met each
other and now they're happilymarried, with kids and
everything and this is how Iknow Raza and these two are just
(42:07):
.
They are the brother and sisterthat you just, you know.
You know, you didn't that youwere meant to have.
You were meant to have it.
And yeah, my best friend, jen.
She is like, and my mum used tosay when she had met Jen coming
out to Australia she is justyou, but on the other side of
(42:28):
the world and we are just soalike.
It's unbelievable.
But it's a song called by Zeb,meat in the Middle, which
obviously, well, tim works inmusic as well, so it is kind of
ironic, but every time I hear it.
I saw it on our national newsTV and they were doing a project
(42:52):
which was very ironic of anaeroplane and they were talking
about how it was being builttogether.
And they used doing a projectwhich was very ironic of an
aeroplane and they were talkingabout how it was being built
together and they used this songand I happened to record it,
like screen record it, and Isent it to Jen, who was sitting
next to Zeb, and showed him andit just yeah, so it blew my mind
(43:14):
.
She was on a plane in americanext to him.
Who's who's the song I think hecomposed and wrote and
everything like that.
And here they were talkingabout because his airplane was
being met in the middle, like,and they were building it.
Yeah.
So then, like you, you know,like it's every time I just hear
it, it just I just see thosetwo and yeah, it just fills my
(43:34):
just see those two and yeah, itjust fills my heart.
Speaker 2 (43:38):
That's awesome.
Let's take a listen.
(43:59):
It's like the definition of acatchy fucking song like oh,
just it just goes on when I was,when I was getting the clip
ready for, for you know, thisepisode, this episode now I'm
just listening to it.
I'm just like man, that'scatchy.
Speaker 1 (44:18):
So good, so good yeah .
Speaker 3 (44:20):
Okay, so where do your friends live?
Where do your?
Speaker 1 (44:25):
friends live now the ones from the States the ones
that this reminds you of?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, they're inFlorida.
Speaker 3 (44:33):
Okay, okay, oh, so like across the world from you,
mm-hmm.
Yeah, well, I was thinkingabout the song, because I think
you said you had met them in theStates and so on.
Then I was listening to thewords in the chorus and I was
like why don't you just meet mein the middle?
And I was like, do you all likefly somewhere?
Speaker 1 (44:49):
and like meet up in the middle.
Yes, we do, and Jen and I aremeeting up in the middle in
Hawaii next month.
I love that, that's awesome.
Yeah, but, like I said, we'vebeen friends for over half our
life with you.
Know, you sort of go whoa, youknow like, yeah, children, our
everything.
But yeah, just those peoplethat you hear a song and it
(45:13):
takes you to them, and becausethe song is a takes you to them,
um, and because the song is alot closer to them as well.
So um has quite a lot ofmeaning, right?
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (45:22):
yeah, for sure yeah, the song's great.
I love the song.
I think, yeah, and and and, and.
You know, for a while it was,it was, it was everywhere, it
was, um, uh, I mean I, I couldwalk into like a mall.
I remember walking into like adoctor's office and oh yeah,
there's, there's zed playingagain.
Fantastic, yeah, I think it's agreat song.
(45:44):
It's a happy song it is, isn'tit?
Speaker 1 (45:46):
yeah, it's one of those all time.
Speaker 4 (45:48):
I think it will go down as a bit of an anthem hmm,
you've and I was just just justthinking back through your six.
I mean, you've had quite a fewanthems and I think there's
certainly like an anthemic themeto this episode is what I'm
getting at yeah starting withliving on a prayer which is the
anthem of all anthems.
Speaker 2 (46:08):
You know the bar song and all of that, to then all
the way through and to this one,yeah, the anthem episode.
Speaker 4 (46:14):
That's right, that's what we'll call it all of that
to to then all the way throughand to this one, yeah, yeah, the
anthem episode the episode.
Speaker 1 (46:16):
That's right.
Yeah, that's what we'll call itand and yeah that's right, and
in the gym it's it's the musiccomes on, and especially if it's
that older sort of stuff, um,yeah, people automatically just
look at me and they know thatI'm gonna go crazy or I'm gonna.
I'm gonna start jumping aroundbecause I'm one of those people
that dance like no one'swatching.
(46:39):
I don't really mind too much,but I feel it.
It moves me, especially if itmeans something to me.
Yeah, so like, yeah, like thatliving on a prayer, like I'm 45
and it's still from somethingfrom when I was like I think I
was about eight or nine, youknow like moves me right here
(47:01):
yeah, absolutely yeah, so.
Speaker 4 (47:04):
So I have to ask a question.
So and this goes back to yourintro, right.
So so we know that that you'revery, you're very much into you
know, fitness and sort of gymactive and everything.
But other than that you know wementioned, you know you have
sort of a flying connection ofsorts.
But then there's also anotherconnection that we didn't
mention, which is on all yoursocials, which is the sort of,
(47:28):
you know, amazing art likebaking art is what I'm going to
call it cake art, right?
So I would love for you toelaborate on that a little bit.
But also, do you what's themusic connection, if any, to the
baking art world?
I mean, do you put on sort ofhappy songs to get you inspired?
(47:51):
Is it on like a case-by-casetype thing?
So talk to us about that alittle bit.
Speaker 1 (47:58):
Um, I, I, yeah, so I, I I make art out of cake and I
people always say, oh, what doyou do?
You know like, aren't you sadwhen they eat it?
And I'm like, no, it means thatthey're gonna buy more.
Um, it's not like a painting,you know sort of thing, but, um,
I love to shock people and pushmy boundaries with that.
It's.
(48:18):
It's yeah, so I make artworkout of cake and um for all types
of things.
Um, but when I'm, when I'mcooking, all my cakes take
usually three to four days tomake.
Um, so, regardless of the sizeor anything like that, it's just
the process that I go through.
It does depend on the style ofcake.
(48:40):
Sometimes, most of the time,I'd probably just put like
country radio on.
You know, morgan Wallace, youknow, just sort of nice, nothing
too fast, because I don't wantto rush things sort of thing.
But yeah, sometimes you knowI'll put something in.
Yeah, nothing too fast.
Um, because I don't want torush things um sort of thing,
but yeah sometimes it, you know,I'll put something in.
Yeah, that will get me really,you know, revved up for it or
(49:00):
whatever, um, but yeah, moreinclined with what the cake
might be oh, that's super coolit's awesome, I'm sorry, I'm
Speaker 3 (49:13):
having a moment because I'm trying to think of
you like baking, but like ittotally makes sense sometimes,
when you're doing something thatyou get into, like the flow of
you get lost in something andlike the music sort of has to go
with that feeling, otherwiseit'll like break you from your
process.
Speaker 1 (49:31):
Yeah, yeah, and especially like if I'm hand
painting something on a cake,it's kind of final once you.
Once you put it on there, it'snot coming off, you can't really
erase it.
So you kind of have to bepretty precise and, um, you know
, sometimes like if I havesomething fast on, my heart will
be going faster and things likethat.
But I find the country, thecountry music is, is my even
(49:53):
keel.
Speaker 3 (49:55):
It's like baking tempo.
Speaker 1 (49:57):
Yeah, Unless I'm whipping ganache.
I'll send you a clip.
But I like to whip my ganacheto make the sides of my cake and
things like that.
And then before I put thefondant on.
So I usually have it in like asort of a you know, smallish
sort of bowl and I will besitting there whipping away and
(50:20):
you're like so then it'ssomething a little bit more
aggressive, yes, a little bitmore intense maybe, if I, if I'm
ganashing a cake yes, sometimesI will I will crank it up nice,
that's awesome.
Speaker 4 (50:31):
Yeah, I was almost thinking of like, um, I know
there's some shows like sort ofdoctor themed shows, but like
the cool doctors, before theyperform like the most intense
surgery, they'll always pop in.
You know some sort of uh, somesort of musical number.
Yeah, some some doctors wouldgo for you know sort of classic
(50:51):
music, classical music and myfavorite doctors go for death
metal.
So I'm kidding, I'm surethey're out there.
Speaker 3 (51:02):
I don't know that if I'm on the table, that's what I
want, coming on Like I, betterbe asleep when it starts playing
.
Speaker 2 (51:09):
Totally.
Speaker 1 (51:09):
But I'm sure it's out there you get a lot when
they're delivering babies.
They'll do the same.
Speaker 4 (51:14):
Oh sure, that makes sense.
Yeah, it totally makes senseyeah, the playlist.
Speaker 2 (51:19):
And what what?
Yeah, what music to go?
Yeah, for sure love that.
Speaker 3 (51:24):
I'm gonna have to definitely check out your social
media and like the baking andstuff like that sounds
fascinating yeah, we'll link itall in the show notes.
Speaker 2 (51:32):
Yeah for sure Clips and links, all right.
Speaker 3 (51:40):
Kimmy, we have reached the end of your six
songs.
How this is like one of myfavorite questions at the end of
this, but like how does it feelhearing your life reflected
through music and through thesesix songs?
Speaker 1 (51:56):
At first I thought it was going to be difficult to
narrow it down to six songsbecause music is such a big
thing.
But when you really hone in onthe importance and the why which
I'm doing a lot of research onat the moment the why you have
something happen to you, youhave something happen to you,
the why you do something, I kindof answered it with thinking
(52:18):
about my why.
You know my children in themusic, in the movies, they're my
why.
You know that was my why at thetime of watching some movies
that I actually think about themusic.
Yeah, no, so I sort of think itwas kind of quick but yeah,
straight to the point and itreally brought all those back to
(52:39):
a really great place.
Speaker 3 (52:41):
I love that.
All right, so we we like tofinish out on a on a fun rapid
fire note.
Roz is going to lead us, orlead you, through your lightning
round.
Speaker 4 (52:54):
Wow, okay, us, or lead you, uh through your
lightning round wow, okay, roundtime, oh gosh so what we?
It's a lightning round.
We like to keep it, you know,short and short and sweet, but
basically very simple.
So we would love to know whatwas your first, your last and
your best or favorite concert.
So, first concert, last concertand best or favorite please
(53:16):
don't judge me on the map.
Speaker 1 (53:18):
Okay, uh, first concert no judgment.
Speaker 3 (53:20):
No judgment allowed on this show.
Speaker 1 (53:23):
The first come to the right place the first concert
was john farnham, because I amaustralian, john farnham.
It was in a just a field, justa field sort of thing, and I
think tickets were like $15.
The last concert, oh, it hasbeen a while.
(53:45):
It has been a while, oh gosh, Icouldn't even tell you Probably
being in Vegas with you, raza,in the club it's not really a
concert, but that was probablythe last time I sort of you know
big musical Zeb and my bestwould probably be Vegas.
So, yeah, it's as close as youget to a concert for me at the
(54:10):
moment.
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (54:11):
That's true.
Who did you see in VegasZeibbed, oh oh, sorry I missed
that.
Okay, got it, got it.
Speaker 4 (54:20):
Got it, got it awesome there you go all right
vegas is hard to top, you knowit is hard to talk in any way.
Speaker 3 (54:27):
Yeah, yeah um for sure and now they've like upped
it with the sphere, so like Idon't even know now, like you,
go to a concert and like meltsyour brain, like I don't even
know what happens.
Going to see a show, it's asphere.
Speaker 1 (54:40):
Yeah, it's crazy craziness yeah that's all right
there we go well, I need anexcuse.
Speaker 4 (54:50):
I think we all could use.
You know, a?
Um, I'd recommend anyone tryand get down to Australia.
So I mean one of my sort of youknow, life, dream, life goal,
bucket list trips is, you know,watching the Sydney Opera House?
You know, from the windows of aQantas plane, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (55:13):
We can fix that up for you, Raza.
Speaker 4 (55:16):
Definitely, it's true , you might know somebody yeah.
And a round of cricket.
I'm sorry, I just have to do it.
Speaker 2 (55:26):
We can find that Cool Done and see a rugby match.
That'd be cool yeah.
Speaker 3 (55:33):
Adding to this itinerary as we go, the trip is
getting longer and longerkangaroos.
Speaker 4 (55:40):
why not all right?
Speaker 3 (55:44):
well, kimmy, in the last few couple of minutes we
have left um, the floor is yoursto to tell our audience you
know anything you've got goingon that you think folks might be
interested in, um, where theycan follow you If, if you have
social media, that's that'spublic like.
Your floor is yours to sharewhat you got going on.
Speaker 1 (56:02):
Oh bless you.
Um, thank you, um, oh, at themoment, my life is revolving
around the kids, work, but, um,a new, a new phenomenon called
the high rocks.
So, yeah, so, everyone, get outthere, do something for
yourself, make yourself feelgood.
You can compete and pushyourself, or just to compete to
say you did it, and that's justamazing.
(56:25):
So, yeah, it's a worldphenomenon and I'm loving it.
We'll see how we go.
Some are competitive, somearen't.
So, yeah, that's my whole focusat the moment and, believe it
or not, instagram.
I do all my cakes andeverything, but I do post my
workouts and things like that aswell.
So, yeah, you can find me there.
Speaker 2 (56:47):
Awesome and we'll have all of that linked down in
the show notes for people tocheck out and find you, so you
can see workout routines andcake art and, um, maybe some
traveling and some, some, uhsome, airplane shots and things
too.
Speaker 1 (57:01):
That's right yeah.
I finished at midnight lastnight, so sorry about the bags.
Speaker 2 (57:07):
Ooh oh life of a shift, yeah, yeah, all right,
kimmy, thank you so much forbeing on.
We really appreciated hearingyour story.
Thank you for coming to us, andyou know, scheduling halfway
around the world is a challenge.
Luckily, we have the technologyto do it and I'm so glad we
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were able to make this happen.
So thank you.
Oh, thank you, thank you forhaving me.
Absolutely All right.
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If you like what you're hearingand you want to hear more
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I don't know.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Hey everybody, welcome to another episode of A
Life in Six Songs.
I am your host, David Rees, andI'm joined by my co-hosts,
Carolina and Raza.
Hi there, Hello For those ofyou new to the podcast.
Each week, we embark on an epicadventure to find the songs
that are stuck to us likeaudible tattoos, that tell the
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story of who we are and wherewe've been, to help us figure
out where we're going.
It's a life story told throughsix songs.
We approach our conversationswith love, kindness and
curiosity to counter theprevalence of hate, anger and
judgment in the world.
Our goal is that by listeningto these stories, you can bring
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more love, kindness andcuriosity into your own life.
With that, let's go have alisten together.
Our guest today is KimmySeagrave.
Kimmy is a wife and mom wholoves to push her physical
boundaries and show her kids howto believe in themselves.
She loves showing them how tobe good humans through their
thoughts and actions.
A flight attendant based out ofAustralia, she loves a good
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mantra and affirmation.
Kimmy, welcome to A Life in SixSongs.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Oh, we're glad to be here.
We're glad that you're here.
I mean, we're glad that we'rehere too, obviously, but we're
glad that you're here and we'reglad that we were able to make
this work, with us being in theStates and you down under in
Australia, that we're able toyou down under in Australia,
that we're able to, you know,line it up and get you on.
So let's go ahead and get intoit.
Before we get into your sixsongs, just to kind of warm us
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up and get us going.
You know what is it about musicand the role that it plays in
your life that wanted you to bea guest on this show.
You know, kind of how do yousee music fitting into your life
?
Speaker 1 (02:25):
um fitting into my life it's, it's like an everyday
.
You know, um, set, set the tone, set the mood, um, you can put
it on.
You know, if you're feelingdown, bring you up.
Um, yeah, if I'm on my way tothe gym, I can really get pumped
by a certain song or feelingfrom a song.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Yeah, absolutely, Absolutely.
I love that.
Well, with that, I'm going topass it over to Carolina.
Who's going to get us goingwith your first question and
your first song?
Speaker 3 (02:59):
Oh, all right.
So to start us off, I thinkit's so great we hear lots of
stories of folks when they werefirst exposed to like bands or
artists and how it kind ofrocked their world.
And so, for your first song,what's a memorable time for you
when you were first exposed to aband or artist's music?
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Well, I also did a lot of dancing when I was
younger so it was never reallymy selection of songs, but I was
exposed to music.
But my older sister it wouldhave been when she living on a
prayer, bon Jovi pumping out inthe car she really found that
band and then she snuck out ofthe house and went to their
concert, got grounded for life,yeah, so I think for me that
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would make it really memorable.
It was one of those ones whenyou were younger really
impressionable, yeah, andbecause of the story that she
got grounded for life.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Absolutely.
Yeah, let's take a quick listenand then we can chat some more.
On the other side, here we go,living on a prayer.
If you haven't, heard this song.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Here it is.
How does it feel hearing it now?
Oh, it's actually it's on theplaylist in the gym at the
moment.
So we have, like you know, likeI train every day and it's one
of those things and I could bemid anything Anyone who does
watch me on social media likethis song has been on our
playlist and it comes on andthat's it.
I'm off, like like all the way.
It just, it's just and that'sit.
(05:04):
I'm off, like all the way.
It's just one of those thingsthat just comes in and comes out
.
You know, you're like I don'tknow.
Bon Jovi, how can you not lovehim?
Speaker 4 (05:16):
Absolutely Bon Jovi, especially this song.
It sounds better, I think, nowthan it did even.
It's like every year, it getsbetter and better.
This song, um, and this is fromthe 80s, right, this is, this
is uh, this is from the glorydays of, uh, glam metal it is
90s, let's get, let's get inthere.
(05:37):
There you go late 80s it'sbetter and better, though,
though I love this song.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
And, like I said, you know, itdoesn't matter where you are,
like in the gym, it just comeson and it just comes out Like
your fist pumping, you're liketurned to someone and you're
like yes.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Yeah, absolutely when you first, when your older
sister like shared this with you, was this like just a brand new
, like genre, or were you likekind of a little bit into this,
but this was just somethingdifferent, sort of like.
What was that experience likefor you when you first, when you
first heard it?
Speaker 1 (06:19):
like I did dancing and things like that, so it was
more the classical side.
Then you'd have, like you know,back in the 80s the jazz sort
of types of music, and then yourolder sister brings this like
almost like rock band in, youknow, and it's like oh my gosh.
And it still does for me todaywhat it did back then.
(06:40):
Like you know, you just sort ofyou can't help but move, you
can't help but you jump aroundand all that sort of stuff and
just have it.
I don't know your blood pumpsfaster and you, um, yeah it,
just it, yeah, no matter when Ilisten to it.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Like I said on the playlist right now, like even
today in this class, it justwent off yeah, I think it's like
totally one of those like feelgood anthem type songs they were
they were doing an interviewwith, with john bon jovi um,
here in the states they theyrecently released like a
docu-series about his life andthe band and stuff like that and
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so he was doing interviews forit.
Um, and he talks about how helike suspects sometimes that he
gets invited to weddings justbecause people want to hear him
sing this song and so like theywon't ask ahead of time.
It'll be like mid-wedding andpeople will be like the band
will start playing.
It'll be like come on, john,and he obliges, like every time.
But I think, yeah, it's one ofthose songs that like it just
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makes everyone feel really good,no matter what you like crowd,
stand up, start fist pumping andsinging it at the top of their
lungs.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
Yeah, it's just good stuff yeah, absolutely,
absolutely so your sister got introuble, but you came away with
lifelong uh bon jovi, uh fandomabsolutely, absolutely um right
absolutely.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
And uh, she like I mean back in the 80s, big hair
and everything, and they I livedabout an hour from sydney on
the train, so they all snuck out, jumped on a train, went to
sydney, went to the concert Idon't even know how she got
tickets, like she was, she'sknow, sort of eight years older
than me and she ended up gettingthe guitar pick and for years
(08:30):
she wore it around her neck, youknow, and so to me that's yeah,
like I mean, like she gotgrounded for life, but she
thought that was, you know,worth it.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
So worth it.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Absolutely no regrets there, yeah, and there's those
things when you you're, whenyou're a kid that you're no, you
know you're gonna get introuble for, and you're just
like I'm doing it anyway,because what it is is is worth
it like I don't care whathappens exactly like.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
I mean, there's so many the.
The context of that now is justcompletely different.
You, you would never sort ofjust go, I'm gonna go on a train
an hour away.
I I think they were like theywould have been 14 or 15, you
know sort of thing.
But I think for me that makesme sort of remember that time in
my life, because of the storyas well, not only the anthem to
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what it meant and the song andhow you feel, but yeah, just
almost like a rebel.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Yeah, yeah, like I don't know how kids would do
that nowadays, even with likeeveryone's got cell phones and
stuff, and like you track themand stuff, like you know, and
our daughter does it to us too,like you know, like you know
where it's.
Just like we talked about likeit was a different time where
you could do these types ofthings.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Yeah, I also like too that it's like the song is
living on a prayer.
We're talking about your oldersister like doing this, like,
yeah, she's living on a prayer.
Like, just like we're going togo to this concert and with a
prayer hope, you know, it goesall right and the grounding
isn't too bad.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
That's right, all right.
So, in keeping with the sort ofspirit of music like taking us
back, you know, to good times orother times, sometimes music
has like a really seared memoryof a specific time or place.
So for your next song, what,what is that song?
That like when you hear it,you're just instantly taken to
(10:30):
that specific time or place um,it'd have to be tomorrow by
silver chair.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Um, I actually went to school um an hour away from
where silver chair went toschool and there was this thing
called the battle of the bands.
Okay, so our high school, theirhigh school, you know, each
month I think it was, they wouldlike send a group and they'd
come and you know sort of.
You know it was, yeah, battleof the band, so everyone would
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go up against it.
It was a bit of a like I don'tknow if you call it a round
robin, like when you competeagainst a group of you know
teams or whatever, and so I haveseen Silverchair before they
were even on the world stage andit just takes me back.
But then there's songs thisparticular one was also, you
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know, teenage years, whenunfortunate things happen.
So that always, sort ofwhenever I hear it, it just yeah
, you sort of you're takenstraight back to that time.
So not only do you feel likeyou know the band, but the song
really resonated with.
You know some sad times.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Let's take a quick listen.
I guarantee if you're watchingthe show right now and you're
like Silver Chair Tomorrow Idon't know if I know that one I
guarantee if you're an elder,millennial, gen x you will know
this song, no matter where youwere.
I know in the states it washuge.
So here we go, silver chairthere's no bathroom and there is
no sink the water out of thetap is very Hard to drink, very
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hard to drink.
How's it feel hearing it now?
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Yeah, straight back, straight back to sitting in that
school hall.
We had an elevated stage andthey were just kids, you know,
just having a band and that sortof thing.
So this one, there was a bigcar accident and it took three
of my friends.
Wow, you know, they were onlyyoung, year 11, which is our
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second last year, and it wasthat time they were coming from
one of these battle of vans, youknow.
So they'd sort of jam out andplay.
The car was overloaded, youknow, the horror stories were
here and hopefully our childrenhave learnt from things like
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this.
So there were three of them.
That was really sad.
And then there was another onewho couldn't see it out by
himself.
So we all know, without sort ofsaying, how that ended.
But so this song, this band,you know, a good and a sad
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response to the memories of it.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Absolutely.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
I remember these guys were super young themselves,
the band, the band members.
I remember.
It was right around the sort ofalternative sort of wave guys
were super young themselves, theband, the band members I
remember there were, there was,it was, it was right around the
sort of alternative sort of waveum, and you know there's I'm
sure we've all heard about thesethe sort of the curse of the
age um, age 27, right, which isjim morrison, janice joplin,
(13:59):
kurt cobain, and, and, and sothese guys remember came, came
out right around the time of thesort of alternative rock music.
But they were younger, they werelike 10 years younger than yeah
kurt cobain's, uh, and then theother sort of alternative bands
back then, um and then yeah, sothey fully represented that
sort of teen.
You know, rebellion, angst andall of that, um, um, but yeah,
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no, um, and and I'm sorry aboutthe story, the story that's
attached to it for you, you knowit's, it's, it's, it's a really
, it's a really sad one.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Yeah, yeah, um, and, and, as the funny thing is, um,
I don't know if you know howmuch behind Silverchair, they
actually come from a town calledMorissette, which is near
Newcastle, sort of an hour southof Newcastle but an hour north
of where I grew up and there wasa mental asylum there.
So the music that was comingout always had that sort of
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stigma that these guys you knowwere really troubled, I mean
it's well written, when youlisten to the lyrics, it
actually tells a story fromtheir soul, sort of thing were
really troubled.
And I mean, it's well written.
When you listen to the lyricsit actually tells a you know, it
tells a story from their soul,sort of thing.
But I think because they comefrom that town where that had
that stigma around it, it makesa very interesting sort of you
know.
And then they obviously, youknow, went crazy and everyone
(15:17):
knows who they are.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Yeah, yeah, totally.
I love that too and Iappreciate you one sharing the
story of the loss and thetragedy.
I mean, it's one of thosethings where you know,
unfortunately a lot of us havesimilar stories like that right
around those times and, like yousaid, you know, when you're in
those teen years, young 20s,like you said, people are
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traveling together in groups incars and things.
So when something a car crashor or or something happens it it
we, we tend to lose a number ofpeople in it at that time.
Right Like you said, you've gotbands traveling together.
You know sports teams, whateverit might might be, and so it
always makes it like that much,that much harder because of that
(16:03):
.
You know sports teams, whateverit might might be, and so it
always makes it like that much,that much harder because of that
you know.
So thank you for sharing thatand thank you for sharing the
the geography aspect of wherethey were from and and relation
to you.
We joke on this show that we'relike we're a music podcast, but
we also are like a pseudo kindof like geography, cause you
know we talk like we're alwayssomewhere when we're listening
to music and like you know thecousin who introduces us to a
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song comes from somewhere, andso this music is always tied to
us and experiences, but alwaystied to a place too, in that
sense, and so I appreciate yousharing that, that aspect of it
well, australia has a reallyawesome sort of connection to,
to um, to rock music I thinkspecifically.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
I mean, you know it doesn't get any more sort of you
know, uh, better connected thanlike acdc, for example, right,
absolutely.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
I mean lots that, lots of memories there.
You know, like you know, beingan 80s kid, you know that your
parents would just put that thecassette in in the, the old
commodore car which you guyswouldn't know.
It was like a gm for you guys.
Everyone had one.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
You know these commodore cars and they put the
cassette in and, you know, playit until it was stretched yeah,
absolutely that was a thing youcould play a cassette too much
to where, like like this, heapwould like get like thin and
then it would like unravel andyou'd have to take a pencil and
like oh the things people don'thave to do anymore absolutely
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like they'd have no idea.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Like, like, when they release a song here in
Australia, you guys would get itand it literally would have to
be shipped, like the CDs or therecords or the cassettes would
have to be shipped to Australiaand then broadcast, or whatever.
I think I get to it later.
Actually, no, I don't think.
(17:59):
But you know, like recording onyour boom box from the top 100,
you know, because we didn'thave live stream, we didn't have
just by the song, um, and thosesorts of things.
Uh, I was discussing with my,with my mom, um, about this and,
um, she said she skipped schoolto, actually, when the beatles
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came to, came to Australia andshe remembers having, yeah, and
she remembers getting the record.
She used all of her money, youknow, to save her money and she
bought this one, like, and shesaid it was a little tiny, a
tiny record, you know, but theybasically had to bring that to
Australia when they were coming,because it wasn't.
(18:41):
Yeah, just a quick download, umsort of thing.
So yeah, music is just, it'sleaps and bounds, and and how
much closer I feel with everyone, like just doing something like
this yeah right right.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
I'm finding it super interesting that your mom did
kind of what your sister did,like it's so hard.
Then you have kids and they dolike the shit you did and you're
like, damn, I want to be mad atyou, but I also did that too
you know, I can't let you getaway with it so like you're
grounded for life, yeah, forlife, yeah absolutely.
(19:18):
Oh my goodness, oh so truethat's a great story all right,
um for for our next song.
Uh, sometimes we have musicthat um is just intimately tied
to like a specific activity whenwe're doing them.
You know, a book, um, a tripyou took, what is a song for you
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that that's intimately tied tosome kind of activity?
Speaker 1 (19:47):
So the one that really comes to mind is I worked
in a summer camp, which is howI have gotten to know you guys
over the years, through people.
I came to summer camp in NorthCarolina.
I was the tennis instructoryeah, tennis instructor and it
was these courts that were likeat the top end of the camp and
oh my gosh, they were as boringas batshit, and so I hadn't been
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exposed to Walmart.
So I ducked over to Walmart andbought a boom box and CDs were
just coming out, and Matchbox 20was the CD that we blasted all
summer from the back of thecourt just to have some
atmosphere up there, becausewe're kind of up in the hill
part of this camp.
And, yeah, the kids found ithilarious and it just takes me
(20:39):
right back to that activity.
And then, like, obviously I'vegot gyms and comps that I do and
things like that, but this onewould have to be as soon as you
hear it.
It takes me straight back tothat tennis court with those
little kids who are probablygrown adults right now let's uh,
let's go back to that tenniscourt, matchbox 23 am.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Let's go back to that tennis court, matchbox 23.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
AM.
So how old were you when youwere doing this camp?
I was 18.
So I'd finished all of myschooling here in Australia,
jumped on a flight straight overthere and, yeah, went straight
to this summer camp and I endedup doing it for about four years
in a row, um, so you got toknow these kids quite well there
is something about this songlike I don't know.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
It takes me, like, immediately back to a college
bar when I was like there issomething and I know I think
that's what like the song'sabout, but like there's just
something about this song thatplaces you at places in your
life.
It doesn't feel like a casualsong you just listen to on the
radio.
It's like seared into people.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
I feel like yeah, yeah, yeah, because you couldn't
escape the song right, it wasso kind of everywhere like kind
of everywhere, and I don't Idon't mean that in a, in a in a
bad way, like oh it was, but butlike everybody has a connection
, I think, to this song in someway, because it was just so kind
of everywhere, like if you werethe right age let's say you
know, kind of thing.
(22:32):
So yeah, everybody's probablygot a place that puts you with
this.
Speaker 4 (22:36):
Yeah, I remember I was at UF when I first heard the
song and Mashbox 20, I thinkthey were from Orlando, so there
was, and we were up in sort ofslightly north of Orlando, but
it was still like a Floridastate, of Florida type
connection.
And then, right after this songis when Rob Thomas, the singer,
(23:01):
went solo and he had that hugehit with the uh, with uh, with
Carlos Santana, um, but, butyeah, but so.
So this song, like you said itwas, it was everywhere, it was
completely you know.
It blew up, it was on, it wason VH1 back when VH1 used to be
a thing, um, and then uh, andthen that it was, it was, it was
(23:22):
all about rob thomas and and hejust sort of went solo.
But yeah, it's good song.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
I like this one.
He was super cute.
I totally had a crush on robthomas yeah yeah so you could,
but wasn't, wasn't your jam, itwasn't my jam um.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
He was busy crushing on James Hetfield.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
Was this just a random CD you all picked up, or
you knew who Matchbox 20 was andyou found it at the Walmart.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
I think I found it at the Walmart it was just yeah,
it was one of those things.
I hadn't heard it it I don'tthink.
Like I said, australia gotthings later, even the CD things
.
We got a lot later than youguys.
And I would have gone from oursummer to your summer.
(24:14):
So, like now, the whole thingis completely different, as in
things come out for our summerso that they can haul it over to
your summer as well, like ananthem.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Oh, uh-huh.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
You know what I mean, like a song that might, you
know, be something good in Vegas.
They sort of think, okay, thisis going to be our summer anthem
for whatever year, and theybring it out here first to see
if it really takes off as well,right, right, there's no time
lapse.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
You kind of get to, yeah, you get to check it out
Like a test market.
Yeah, in the SouthernHemisphere's summer, before you
send it to the NorthernHemisphere's summer.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Yeah, or sometimes I think they might release
something for your summer and ifit really takes off, then they
really sort of, you know, bringit down under Right right.
I mean, we do know someone whomight know the answer to that.
You know, Roz.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
Yeah, I think I'm going to have to plead the fifth
on this one.
Sorry, guys.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
No, I sort of was implying Mr mr, mr tim, mr tim
might know.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
Oh right, yeah yeah, yeah, I mean he's, you know, we
have a mutual friend basically,and I think we'll get to the
story there the encyclopedia ofuh, of music and, and I think
especially things like um,things that we can really nerd
out on from a music perspective.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Yeah, Nice Absolutely , absolutely.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
Yeah, phone a friend yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Yeah.
So like I mean, like I said,you know, sometimes it comes out
here first and then it didn'treally take off.
But then I see it in Americaand I'm like, oh my gosh, you
guys love this.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
Well, I'm glad you found this cd because, like, I
don't know what would havehappened if you would have found
some like horrible music thatyou all hated it and you were
like stuck listening to it allsummer.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
So like not bad, yeah , yeah, um, the whole, I, I.
Lucky it wasn't a cassette,because it would have been
walked by the end of the summerright, right, especially sitting
outside in a boom box, you knowin the heat of the summer would
have justmelted well, yeah, that was
north carolina a little littlecooler than florida, but yes,
(26:30):
still hot was was north carolina, your first exposure to coming
to america like to the states no, I actually danced for disney
um when I first finished highschool here, so I went over with
a troupe and applied for a jobdancing for Disney.
So I was there for six monthsand then came straight across
(26:51):
for your summer in NorthCarolina, met some friends,
moved to Florida, hung out withthem, worked a little down there
and then went back to NorthCarolina and it went on for a
couple of years.
So it was kind of the secondexperience.
The first one.
I kind of did go a bit nuts,you know, when you land in
Anaheim and check it all out asyou do.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
For sure, for sure.
Well, it is the happiest placeon earth.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Well, yeah, it is, it is.
Yeah, I did go back there umwith without another mutual
friend um probably five yearsago and it it had changed quite
a bit, but it still had thatundertone, so that's good good
stuff, all right.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
Well, um, thinking, thinking now to just other
aspects of of life and music.
Sometimes music can be therekind of as a friend, um, when
times are tough.
And so for your next song,kimmy, what's the song that
helped you through a reallydifficult time or situation?
Speaker 1 (27:59):
okay, I'm gonna have to apologize in advance.
Um, I lost my dad five yearsago well, coming up to five
years ago, and it was um atypical response for australia
melanoma, um skin cancer, but umthat actually was on his brain
(28:26):
and you know it literally he wasdiagnosed in the February and
gone in the October.
So, so rapid, so rapid.
But every time I used to helived at that time he lived
about an hour away from where Ilive and I would my kids were
little I would put them in theback of the car, drive out there
(28:46):
, because my mum had dropped himand you know she couldn't lift
him, she couldn't do stuff, orwe'd go out to visit him or
whatever.
You just do what you do and Iwould never change it.
You know, I think I did what Icould and as much as I could
sort of thing, but every time Iwould leave there the Guy
Sebastian song choir would play.
(29:09):
Now that is also if you listento the lyrics and I researched
it, guy Sebastian actually wroteit for a friend who took his
own life, so it kind of wasabout death but being beautiful
and reuniting and things likethat.
But every time and whenever Ithink of my dad, that song,
within like 10 minutes, willcome on, like just all of a
(29:33):
sudden.
You know.
So yeah, just an amazing little, you know, I don't know, and
the first bit gets me, chokes meup.
I just start to sort of andthen I sort of overcome with
like almost gratitude andrelease and relief that you can
let go and just sing through thesong I'm the world's worst
(29:56):
singer, but you know and singalong with it and just sort of
sit in that space.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Yeah, let's take a listen.
I think I have the choruspulled up.
Is the clip we're going tolisten to, so Wow.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
It gets you every time.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
What does it feel like hearing it?
Speaker 1 (30:44):
Oh, just, I know it's going to sound really corny,
but like you're sitting thereand I think because the song is
written about dying and suicideand I don't know, I don't know
it, just it just resonates,makes you cry, but yeah, just as
if like he's there saying it'sOK, I gotcha, I'm here.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Mm, hmm, yeah, absolutely yeah.
And the way you describe thesong too, and it's like not a
lot of songs can do kind of whatthis song does.
You know, I encourage everyoneto go, you know, find the song
and listen to the whole thingbecause, like Kimmy you said,
the first verse is is is thetough part?
Right, it's about the loss andit's about and it's like the
(31:32):
music is different, and then itlike, and so it gets you into
that moment, like okay, we are,we are talking about loss and
you know, uh, these, these,these difficult, uh issues, and
then the chorus hits and it'sgot this like lift to it where
you know it's like, hey, I lostyou and I miss you, but hey, I
(31:52):
know you're up there, I know I'mgonna see you soon, those kinds
of things.
Yeah, just a really powerfulsong for that.
Speaker 4 (32:00):
Yeah, I think it definitely requires another
listen for some of us whohaven't heard this one before,
because as I was listening tothat clip, to me it sounded like
those songs where there's sortof a duality to them that the
lyrics are are one way, but themusic is something else.
(32:22):
Right, the music, especially inin in the clip that we heard.
The music definitely soundsuplifting and sort of you know,
joyous and and and and almostlike a celebration.
And almost like a celebration,yeah, but obviously when you say
that it's tied to somethinglike grief and loss and things
like that, it takes you to adifferent, it has different
meaning.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
But yeah, yeah, and when I kept hearing the song at
that point when I'd drive homefrom my mom and dad's or any
point when I heard it, I didn'tknow, until I sort of researched
it, that it was actually abouthis best mate that actually took
his own life.
So yeah, just like yeah,music's amazing.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
And that can be sometimes just thinking about
the subject matter, but the waythe artist chose to do it right,
how David's saying that thesong starts out more somber and
then gets more uplifting, likethat's kind of how grief is.
You know there's like thismissing piece and then there's
this like remembering fondlypiece, and then you know it's
(33:31):
not always sad it comes in wavesand comes and goes and ups and
downs.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
You know, yeah, yeah, and some days I can, I can
choke up in like the first lineand then I'm, I'm completely
fine, and then other times Ijust hear it and it just, you
know, you just cry um yeah yes,totally and well, and another
australian artist, oh yeah, yes,the the little bit of music
(34:05):
trivia.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
Yeah, uh, guy sebastian won the first season
of an australian idol in 2003.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
So for all of us.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
US folks, that's, that's.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
And he actually, um he's.
He's not musically trained.
From what I remember, um he, hewas self-taught.
He actually came from a very umreligious family where music
was taboo.
And he, he was not allowed todo it unless it was a Christian.
You know music and things likethat, and then he managed to
break away from that.
So I think he's an amazing man,an amazing character.
He writes, you know, and justthe philosophy behind him and
(34:46):
you know, like I follow him onsocial media and things like
that and his wife they're justreally beautiful people and
they've got that balance nowbetween their religion, religion
, their home life, their music,their family life I think, you
know, if you're watching thisguy, I think you've got got it
balanced yeah, and it makes themusic better when you kind of
(35:08):
like the artist, you know yeah,absolutely
yeah he has gone away from the,the big fro he had when he won
Idol.
So yeah, worth a watch, worth awatch.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
Will do.
Yeah, definitely, definitelyEveryone go check out that first
season of Australian Idol.
Yeah, Guy.
Sebastian winning it all.
Speaker 4 (35:30):
Was it Simon Cowell over there too?
In that version I may begetting the shows wrong.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
I'm trying to think back.
I think he did do the first one.
Speaker 4 (35:44):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
I think, yeah, yeah, it sort of came out here, I
think, marsha Hines, who'sanother Australian one.
I've got a feeling she was thefirst.
Yeah, don't hold me to it.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
No worries, yes, no worries, yes, no worries.
Exactly.
So we'll take a bit of a pivothere.
Um to to somethinglight-hearted that makes you
feel really good.
Um, what is a song from a moviethat is seared into your mind?
You can't think of the moviewithout thinking about the song,
and vice versa oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
Um, there are so many .
There are so many um, but it'dhave to be recently.
Um, I can't stop that feelingby justin timberlake from the
trolls movie.
Um, I have a vehicle that has aum um video like a TV screen in
the ceiling.
And obviously driving betweenmy dad and our house.
(36:40):
That sort of thing was an hour.
The children watched that movieover and over and over but it
also made you feel better andhappier sort of thing coming out
of there.
I have never seen the movie,but I could recite it.
Speaker 3 (36:59):
That's hilarious.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
I've only heard the movie I haven't seen the movie.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
Yep, yep, I love that yeah, and it's just one of
those.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
You can't.
You can't not feel happy whenit comes on sort of thing.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Absolutely.
Yeah, let's, let's take alisten and I'll uh uh feel happy
.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
so just dance, dance, dance amen for children's
(37:48):
movies that have goodsoundtracks, because I feel like
when we were they were terribleand now they like make a real
effort and just makes the movieso much better.
Oh, absolutely, absolutely yeah, yeah, one day.
It makes it easier on theparents yeah, totally, because
(38:08):
we're stuck with whatever ourkids are watching over and over
on repeat and when it sucks,that makes just for a harder
time for parents.
So and amen for this soundtrackand some of them never like.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
This always makes you feel happy, but sometimes you
hear that song in in a child'smovie and you're like I want to
break that, that record or, youknow, stop downloading it yes,
because you're okay.
It was great for the firstmillion times.
Now I'm yeah, but this one no.
This one always makes you feelgood.
Speaker 4 (38:41):
There's a period of time I guess in the last, I
don't know, maybe 10 years or sowhere it's like one animated
movie after the other, and forsome reason the soundtracks have
just been amazing.
I think the Trolls movie wasone.
There was one I think it wasInside Out.
Oh yes, and there was anotherone called Soul.
(39:03):
I think actually Trent Reznordid the movie, did some of the
music for that.
But yeah, it's like one afterthe other, even the Disney
movies, and then they come upwith these really amazing
soundtracks to go along withthem.
You hire the pop stars to giveit some gravitas.
It's amazing.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
And on different levels.
You know, the kids get it hereand the parents get it here.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
Right yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
A hundred percent.
I like that.
Speaker 4 (39:30):
The test is if I can stay awake through the first 15
minutes, it's a hit.
Usually Are you a hit usually.
Speaker 3 (39:37):
Are you a faller, a sleeper in movies?
Speaker 4 (39:40):
Terrible.
I'm terrible, I am horrible.
Oh, my goodness and my kidsmake so much fun of me.
Especially when they wereyounger they had this whole
routine.
They're like oh yeah, dad, assoon as that, like the um, like
the universal, you knowuniversal studios, oh sure, as
soon as the universal studioscredit comes up, he's out cold.
(40:02):
And it makes so much fun of me,that's hilarious, oh my gosh
yeah and then give me, give mesomething from like 1983 and I
will watch it, you know, onrepeat, no problem, a newer
cartoon out cold.
Speaker 2 (40:24):
Kimmy, thank you for sharing this one and I'm so glad
this was.
This came up in yourquestionnaire and we and we we
have it here in the show, in theinterview, because it just
speaks to you know, the wholepremise of what we're trying to
get at with our show here of,like, how music just is, is
there and can be so powerful andlock us into a moment, things,
and so you know I love how this,you know, came up and it's this
(40:47):
memory of music that's, that'sin you but tied to you and your,
your kids.
Right, it's this moment whereit's like that usually can be so
like frustrating andchallenging, right, driving the
kids in the car and like youknow and they're unhappy or
they're frustrated, they'retired, they're hungry, whatever,
and it's like here's this kindof you know song that that is
(41:09):
locked into this happy momentfor it, and so I just really
appreciate the story.
So, thank you.
Speaker 3 (41:16):
Love that, All right.
Well, we have arrived at yourlast song, and for this one I
think we haven't I don't knowthat we've had this a guest
answered this particularquestion yet, so I'm super
pumped about it.
It's what's?
A song that reminds you of justa good friend or a group of
(41:38):
friends?
Speaker 1 (41:40):
oh, I have known these two um people for over
half my life.
I met them when I came toamerica and um introduced
through someone, and then I wasthere the day they met each
other and now they're happilymarried, with kids and
everything and this is how Iknow Raza and these two are just
(42:07):
.
They are the brother and sisterthat you just, you know.
You know, you didn't that youwere meant to have.
You were meant to have it.
And yeah, my best friend, jen.
She is like, and my mum used tosay when she had met Jen coming
out to Australia she is justyou, but on the other side of
(42:28):
the world and we are just soalike.
It's unbelievable.
But it's a song called by Zeb,meat in the Middle, which
obviously, well, tim works inmusic as well, so it is kind of
ironic, but every time I hear it.
I saw it on our national newsTV and they were doing a project
(42:52):
which was very ironic of anaeroplane and they were talking
about how it was being builttogether.
And they used doing a projectwhich was very ironic of an
aeroplane and they were talkingabout how it was being built
together and they used this songand I happened to record it,
like screen record it, and Isent it to Jen, who was sitting
next to Zeb, and showed him andit just yeah, so it blew my mind
(43:14):
.
She was on a plane in americanext to him.
Who's who's the song I think hecomposed and wrote and
everything like that.
And here they were talkingabout because his airplane was
being met in the middle, like,and they were building it.
Yeah.
So then, like you, you know,like it's every time I just hear
it, it just I just see thosetwo and yeah, it just fills my
(43:34):
just see those two and yeah, itjust fills my heart.
Speaker 2 (43:38):
That's awesome.
Let's take a listen.
(43:59):
It's like the definition of acatchy fucking song like oh,
just it just goes on when I was,when I was getting the clip
ready for, for you know, thisepisode, this episode now I'm
just listening to it.
I'm just like man, that'scatchy.
Speaker 1 (44:18):
So good, so good yeah .
Speaker 3 (44:20):
Okay, so where do your friends live?
Where do your?
Speaker 1 (44:25):
friends live now the ones from the States the ones
that this reminds you of?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, they're inFlorida.
Speaker 3 (44:33):
Okay, okay, oh, so like across the world from you,
mm-hmm.
Yeah, well, I was thinkingabout the song, because I think
you said you had met them in theStates and so on.
Then I was listening to thewords in the chorus and I was
like why don't you just meet mein the middle?
And I was like, do you all likefly somewhere?
Speaker 1 (44:49):
and like meet up in the middle.
Yes, we do, and Jen and I aremeeting up in the middle in
Hawaii next month.
I love that, that's awesome.
Yeah, but, like I said, we'vebeen friends for over half our
life with you.
Know, you sort of go whoa, youknow like, yeah, children, our
everything.
But yeah, just those peoplethat you hear a song and it
(45:13):
takes you to them, and becausethe song is a takes you to them,
um, and because the song is alot closer to them as well.
So um has quite a lot ofmeaning, right?
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (45:22):
yeah, for sure yeah, the song's great.
I love the song.
I think, yeah, and and and, and.
You know, for a while it was,it was, it was everywhere, it
was, um, uh, I mean I, I couldwalk into like a mall.
I remember walking into like adoctor's office and oh yeah,
there's, there's zed playingagain.
Fantastic, yeah, I think it's agreat song.
(45:44):
It's a happy song it is, isn'tit?
Speaker 1 (45:46):
yeah, it's one of those all time.
Speaker 4 (45:48):
I think it will go down as a bit of an anthem hmm,
you've and I was just just justthinking back through your six.
I mean, you've had quite a fewanthems and I think there's
certainly like an anthemic themeto this episode is what I'm
getting at yeah starting withliving on a prayer which is the
anthem of all anthems.
Speaker 2 (46:08):
You know the bar song and all of that, to then all
the way through and to this one,yeah, the anthem episode.
Speaker 4 (46:14):
That's right, that's what we'll call it all of that
to to then all the way throughand to this one, yeah, yeah, the
anthem episode the episode.
Speaker 1 (46:16):
That's right.
Yeah, that's what we'll call itand and yeah that's right, and
in the gym it's it's the musiccomes on, and especially if it's
that older sort of stuff, um,yeah, people automatically just
look at me and they know thatI'm gonna go crazy or I'm gonna.
I'm gonna start jumping aroundbecause I'm one of those people
that dance like no one'swatching.
(46:39):
I don't really mind too much,but I feel it.
It moves me, especially if itmeans something to me.
Yeah, so like, yeah, like thatliving on a prayer, like I'm 45
and it's still from somethingfrom when I was like I think I
was about eight or nine, youknow like moves me right here
(47:01):
yeah, absolutely yeah, so.
Speaker 4 (47:04):
So I have to ask a question.
So and this goes back to yourintro, right.
So so we know that that you'revery, you're very much into you
know, fitness and sort of gymactive and everything.
But other than that you know wementioned, you know you have
sort of a flying connection ofsorts.
But then there's also anotherconnection that we didn't
mention, which is on all yoursocials, which is the sort of,
(47:28):
you know, amazing art likebaking art is what I'm going to
call it cake art, right?
So I would love for you toelaborate on that a little bit.
But also, do you what's themusic connection, if any, to the
baking art world?
I mean, do you put on sort ofhappy songs to get you inspired?
(47:51):
Is it on like a case-by-casetype thing?
So talk to us about that alittle bit.
Speaker 1 (47:58):
Um, I, I, yeah, so I, I I make art out of cake and I
people always say, oh, what doyou do?
You know like, aren't you sadwhen they eat it?
And I'm like, no, it means thatthey're gonna buy more.
Um, it's not like a painting,you know sort of thing, but, um,
I love to shock people and pushmy boundaries with that.
It's.
(48:18):
It's yeah, so I make artworkout of cake and um for all types
of things.
Um, but when I'm, when I'mcooking, all my cakes take
usually three to four days tomake.
Um, so, regardless of the sizeor anything like that, it's just
the process that I go through.
It does depend on the style ofcake.
(48:40):
Sometimes, most of the time,I'd probably just put like
country radio on.
You know, morgan Wallace, youknow, just sort of nice, nothing
too fast, because I don't wantto rush things sort of thing.
But yeah, sometimes you knowI'll put something in.
Yeah, nothing too fast.
Um, because I don't want torush things um sort of thing,
but yeah sometimes it, you know,I'll put something in.
Yeah, that will get me really,you know, revved up for it or
(49:00):
whatever, um, but yeah, moreinclined with what the cake
might be oh, that's super coolit's awesome, I'm sorry, I'm
Speaker 3 (49:13):
having a moment because I'm trying to think of
you like baking, but like ittotally makes sense sometimes,
when you're doing something thatyou get into, like the flow of
you get lost in something andlike the music sort of has to go
with that feeling, otherwiseit'll like break you from your
process.
Speaker 1 (49:31):
Yeah, yeah, and especially like if I'm hand
painting something on a cake,it's kind of final once you.
Once you put it on there, it'snot coming off, you can't really
erase it.
So you kind of have to bepretty precise and, um, you know
, sometimes like if I havesomething fast on, my heart will
be going faster and things likethat.
But I find the country, thecountry music is, is my even
(49:53):
keel.
Speaker 3 (49:55):
It's like baking tempo.
Speaker 1 (49:57):
Yeah, Unless I'm whipping ganache.
I'll send you a clip.
But I like to whip my ganacheto make the sides of my cake and
things like that.
And then before I put thefondant on.
So I usually have it in like asort of a you know, smallish
sort of bowl and I will besitting there whipping away and
(50:20):
you're like so then it'ssomething a little bit more
aggressive, yes, a little bitmore intense maybe, if I, if I'm
ganashing a cake yes, sometimesI will I will crank it up nice,
that's awesome.
Speaker 4 (50:31):
Yeah, I was almost thinking of like, um, I know
there's some shows like sort ofdoctor themed shows, but like
the cool doctors, before theyperform like the most intense
surgery, they'll always pop in.
You know some sort of uh, somesort of musical number.
Yeah, some some doctors wouldgo for you know sort of classic
(50:51):
music, classical music and myfavorite doctors go for death
metal.
So I'm kidding, I'm surethey're out there.
Speaker 3 (51:02):
I don't know that if I'm on the table, that's what I
want, coming on Like I, betterbe asleep when it starts playing
.
Speaker 2 (51:09):
Totally.
Speaker 1 (51:09):
But I'm sure it's out there you get a lot when
they're delivering babies.
They'll do the same.
Speaker 4 (51:14):
Oh sure, that makes sense.
Yeah, it totally makes senseyeah, the playlist.
Speaker 2 (51:19):
And what what?
Yeah, what music to go?
Yeah, for sure love that.
Speaker 3 (51:24):
I'm gonna have to definitely check out your social
media and like the baking andstuff like that sounds
fascinating yeah, we'll link itall in the show notes.
Speaker 2 (51:32):
Yeah for sure Clips and links, all right.
Speaker 3 (51:40):
Kimmy, we have reached the end of your six
songs.
How this is like one of myfavorite questions at the end of
this, but like how does it feelhearing your life reflected
through music and through thesesix songs?
Speaker 1 (51:56):
At first I thought it was going to be difficult to
narrow it down to six songsbecause music is such a big
thing.
But when you really hone in onthe importance and the why which
I'm doing a lot of research onat the moment the why you have
something happen to you, youhave something happen to you,
the why you do something, I kindof answered it with thinking
(52:18):
about my why.
You know my children in themusic, in the movies, they're my
why.
You know that was my why at thetime of watching some movies
that I actually think about themusic.
Yeah, no, so I sort of think itwas kind of quick but yeah,
straight to the point and itreally brought all those back to
(52:39):
a really great place.
Speaker 3 (52:41):
I love that.
All right, so we we like tofinish out on a on a fun rapid
fire note.
Roz is going to lead us, orlead you, through your lightning
round.
Speaker 4 (52:54):
Wow, okay, us, or lead you, uh through your
lightning round wow, okay, roundtime, oh gosh so what we?
It's a lightning round.
We like to keep it, you know,short and short and sweet, but
basically very simple.
So we would love to know whatwas your first, your last and
your best or favorite concert.
So, first concert, last concertand best or favorite please
(53:16):
don't judge me on the map.
Speaker 1 (53:18):
Okay, uh, first concert no judgment.
Speaker 3 (53:20):
No judgment allowed on this show.
Speaker 1 (53:23):
The first come to the right place the first concert
was john farnham, because I amaustralian, john farnham.
It was in a just a field, justa field sort of thing, and I
think tickets were like $15.
The last concert, oh, it hasbeen a while.
(53:45):
It has been a while, oh gosh, Icouldn't even tell you Probably
being in Vegas with you, raza,in the club it's not really a
concert, but that was probablythe last time I sort of you know
big musical Zeb and my bestwould probably be Vegas.
So, yeah, it's as close as youget to a concert for me at the
(54:10):
moment.
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (54:11):
That's true.
Who did you see in VegasZeibbed, oh oh, sorry I missed
that.
Okay, got it, got it.
Speaker 4 (54:20):
Got it, got it awesome there you go all right
vegas is hard to top, you knowit is hard to talk in any way.
Speaker 3 (54:27):
Yeah, yeah um for sure and now they've like upped
it with the sphere, so like Idon't even know now, like you,
go to a concert and like meltsyour brain, like I don't even
know what happens.
Going to see a show, it's asphere.
Speaker 1 (54:40):
Yeah, it's crazy craziness yeah that's all right
there we go well, I need anexcuse.
Speaker 4 (54:50):
I think we all could use.
You know, a?
Um, I'd recommend anyone tryand get down to Australia.
So I mean one of my sort of youknow, life, dream, life goal,
bucket list trips is, you know,watching the Sydney Opera House?
You know, from the windows of aQantas plane, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (55:13):
We can fix that up for you, Raza.
Speaker 4 (55:16):
Definitely, it's true , you might know somebody yeah.
And a round of cricket.
I'm sorry, I just have to do it.
Speaker 2 (55:26):
We can find that Cool Done and see a rugby match.
That'd be cool yeah.
Speaker 3 (55:33):
Adding to this itinerary as we go, the trip is
getting longer and longerkangaroos.
Speaker 4 (55:40):
why not all right?
Speaker 3 (55:44):
well, kimmy, in the last few couple of minutes we
have left um, the floor is yoursto to tell our audience you
know anything you've got goingon that you think folks might be
interested in, um, where theycan follow you If, if you have
social media, that's that'spublic like.
Your floor is yours to sharewhat you got going on.
Speaker 1 (56:02):
Oh bless you.
Um, thank you, um, oh, at themoment, my life is revolving
around the kids, work, but, um,a new, a new phenomenon called
the high rocks.
So, yeah, so, everyone, get outthere, do something for
yourself, make yourself feelgood.
You can compete and pushyourself, or just to compete to
say you did it, and that's justamazing.
(56:25):
So, yeah, it's a worldphenomenon and I'm loving it.
We'll see how we go.
Some are competitive, somearen't.
So, yeah, that's my whole focusat the moment and, believe it
or not, instagram.
I do all my cakes andeverything, but I do post my
workouts and things like that aswell.
So, yeah, you can find me there.
Speaker 2 (56:47):
Awesome and we'll have all of that linked down in
the show notes for people tocheck out and find you, so you
can see workout routines andcake art and, um, maybe some
traveling and some, some, uhsome, airplane shots and things
too.
Speaker 1 (57:01):
That's right yeah.
I finished at midnight lastnight, so sorry about the bags.
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Ooh oh life of a shift, yeah, yeah, all right,
kimmy, thank you so much forbeing on.
We really appreciated hearingyour story.
Thank you for coming to us, andyou know, scheduling halfway
around the world is a challenge.
Luckily, we have the technologyto do it and I'm so glad we
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were able to make this happen.
So thank you.
Oh, thank you, thank you forhaving me.
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If you like what you're hearingand you want to hear more
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