May 23, 2023 • 39 mins
The Steves discuss the 2005 remake, House of Wax, along with what's making them happy in pop culture today!
What's Making Us Happy?
- Ru Paul's Drag Race All Stars Season 8 (Paramount+)
- The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom (Switch)
Movie Discussion
- Names and numbers behind the scene
- What they did right- the gore, horror, plot twist, and special effects
- What they could have done better- the characters
- And much more!
Ending- Any music or audio clips were borrowed from the original source material.
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Steve (00:03):
Hello, returning Happys and new listeners.
This is Steve Bennett Martin.
And this is Steven
Stephen (00:07):
Martin Bennett, and welcome to a lifetime
Steve (00:10):
of happiness.
The podcast where we take you onour journey through some of the
movies, shows, and other bits ofpop culture that are helping
keep us happy, while hopefullyyou bring a smile to your face
along the way.
Stephen (00:19):
And today we're joining Paris Hilton on a trip to a wax
museum where nothing couldpossibly go wrong with the 2005
remake House of Wax.
That's
Steve (00:30):
hot.
Yes.
But both.
Well, yes.
And why does House of Wax makeyou so happy?
Stephen (00:36):
So, I've always been fascinated by wax museums.
To be able to take likerecognizable figures and
recreate them out of wax, Ithink is really fun.
Mm-hmm.
And we had such a good time atMadame CUSO's Yeah.
In New York City.
And dad took me to Madame CUSO'sin San Francisco when I was like
nine or 10.
(00:56):
And I just, you know, you know,I love old movies.
Yeah.
And so of course I've seen theoriginal with the incomparable
Vincent Price as the Star.
Mm-hmm.
And I also just love a goodslasher.
So this is a fun movie with aninteresting premise and the
isolation of it all makes it somuch creepier because, you know,
help is not coming.
Steve (01:17):
Yes, that does make it scary and I love it, but you
know what is coming?
No drag queens because they'remaking me happy right now in pop
culture today.
Do tell.
Well, it's RuPaul's Drag RaceAll-Star.
Season eight has kicked off.
Ooh.
And we are a couple weeks inright now.
What are your initialimpressions on this
Stephen (01:38):
season?
So I will fully admit when Ifirst heard the cast, I was
like, oh, okay.
It seems heavily weightedtowards three individuals.
Yeah.
And then whenever the peoplecame back, I was like, I did not
give all the girls enoughcredit.
Mm-hmm.
Because there are someincredible talents this season.
(02:01):
Yeah.
Steve (02:02):
They might have become all stars after they were on the
show.
Yes.
Even though you never saw themas all stars in the show.
Stephen (02:08):
But of course, I'm rooting for my favorite shunt
and shuffle.
Heidi in closet.
Heidi in closet.
She's just fantastic.
Yes,
Steve (02:17):
and I'm a Jimbo bimbo.
And what else has been makingyou happy?
Stephen (02:25):
Well, for dozens of hours already, it feels like I
have been playing Zelda Tears ofthe Kingdom on the Nintendo
Switch, and it is.
Everything I could have hopedfor.
Yeah, a must play.
Yes, 100%.
And tell me a little bit moreabout this House of Wax movie.
(02:47):
Well,
Steve (02:48):
house of Wax is a 2005 slasher film directed by Jean
Collette Sarah in hisdirectorial debut.
He's the person who later wenton to do 2000 nines orphan, and
20 sixteens the shallows, whichyou liked and I liked as well,
correct.
Stephen (03:02):
Yes.
I mean, that's some pretty goodhorror pedigree.
Orphan had that amazing twistand The Shallows is just a
fantastic movie.
And you know how that scene fromthe Conjuring made me jump outta
my chair, literally
Steve (03:15):
at the theater?
Yeah.
We have the same writers doBehind the Conjuring doing this.
Chad and Carrie w Hayes.
Yes.
And they're twins, not lovers.
Well, good to know.
Yes.
And it's stars.
Alicia Cuthbert, Chad, MichaelMurray, Brian Van Holt, Paris,
Hilton, and Jared, pa, pki,Padalecki, whatever you might
(03:37):
know.
Eli.
Alicia.
Alicia if you're a Canadian, cuzthat's where all of her shows
and movies are from before this.
Stephen (03:44):
But she also really came to fame on 24.
Oh, okay.
That was where I knew her and.
She was the daughter.
She was the daughter on there,and then she also went on to
This great sitcom on ABC calledHappy Endings.
Steve (04:01):
Okay, cool.
And then I know Chad fromOnetree Hill growing up.
That was one of the CW showsthat I watched like every other
show on the wb.
It was back then, except thatone, and I don't know why, but I
watched all the other ones onthe station so much that I feel
like I know basically whathappened on the show because I
saw every preview.
Stephen (04:18):
Yeah.
Bethany Joy Lens, who was alsoon there was one of my favorites
from Goding Light.
Yeah.
And.
I'm shocked.
I didn't watch it either.
Knowing how much I enjoy her.
Steve (04:29):
Yes.
And Peck is from theSupernatural, all 75 seasons.
Yep.
And you should all know ParisHilton by name or shame on you.
And Brian
Stephen (04:39):
Van Holt went on to be idiot.
Bobby Cobb on Cougar Town.
Oh, you love that one.
I love Cougar Town.
Steve (04:45):
Yes.
And funny story about this pairwe have, Jared.
Padi, who is one foot tallerthan CoStar, Alicia Koh Bart to
make herself appear taller inscenes where she and he would be
filmed together, she taped twoinch blocks of wood to the
bottom of her boots.
This was only done during thescenes where they would be shot
from the knee up because youdidn't wanna see her running
(05:06):
around in those and have toexplain it.
Yeah.
But that also explains why herheight changes in relation to
the other characters elsewhere.
Stephen (05:14):
Jared Padalecki and Paris Hilton leader appear in an
episode of SupernaturalTogether, also centered around a
wax museum.
And there's even reference tothis movie in the episode.
I've never seen
Steve (05:25):
Supernatural.
No.
But now I wanna watch thisepisode specifically just to
see.
The, that story.
Yeah.
And Brian Van Holt plays theroles of both Beau and Vincent
Sinclair undergoing an extensivehair and makeup transformation
for the latter.
Or the former, depending on howyou're looking
Stephen (05:42):
at it.
Yes.
It had a budget of 40 million ina box office of 70.1, so it did
just fine by box officestandards.
Yeah,
Steve (05:50):
but if I ever managed to turn 40 million into 70 million,
please consider it a success.
A huge success, yes.
Now, aside from the title andthe setting of the WAX museum,
apparently this has noconnection to the original film
House of Wax from 1953.
Is that.
True.
I didn't realize you had watchedit.
Stephen (06:06):
I have.
I love Vincent Price.
Funny story cuz next week we'redoing House on Haunted Hill.
Vincent Price was also the starof the original house on Haunted
Steve (06:17):
Hill.
There you go.
So Im DB said that one was aboutan associate burning down a wax
museum with the owner inside whosurvives only to become vengeful
and murderous.
Does that sum it up?
Stephen (06:28):
It kind of does, but I am DB's also kind of shitty
because that's the twist on themovie because someone be, is
murderous.
Oh, but you don't know who.
No, and because we see VincentPrice and his face is completely
fine.
Yeah.
And the murderer does not looklike that.
So like you don't think it'sVincent Price until the end.
(06:54):
When his wax face is broken andthe horrible, disfigured burnt
thing is underneath.
So, okay, I am db.
Bad on you, you fail.
Steve (07:04):
Well also though, at the same time, playing devil's
advocate is I think that 80years is past the spoiler zone
Stephen (07:12):
probably.
But I mean, I still wouldn't putit in a, like a twist in the
summary.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That would be kind of like, likehaving scream be
Steve (07:23):
just like the one where Billy, yeah.
Stephen (07:24):
Where Billy Loomis chases his girlfriend and her
friends.
You're like, thanks.
I am db.
Steve (07:30):
Yeah.
Okay.
True.
Touche, Shay.
Now what happens with thismovie?
Stephen (07:35):
Well, the movie begins with a scene set in 1974.
A woman is boiling hot wax tomake wax masks.
Say that five times
Steve (07:45):
fast.
Oh, thank you.
Stephen (07:47):
With her young son, he who is eating his breakfast and
a high chair, and their facesall remain intentionally out of
the camera.
Suddenly the father comes inholding a near hysterical second
son who is kicking and screamingwildly.
The second kid has to bestrapped down into a highchair
due to his apparently violentnature, and we see marks and
(08:10):
scars and cuts on his arms andis compared negatively to the
other child.
Steve (08:15):
Yeah, that brings me right back to what it was like
watching them.
My, my parents get Mickey intohis highchair.
Stephen (08:21):
I think you need to explain that more.
Steve (08:23):
No, I'm kidding.
It wasn't like that at all.
He was a little bra sometimes,but by no means was he a
monster.
Okay.
And for this movie, is thisenough of a backstory?
Stephen (08:33):
It's pretty quick.
So usually I would say no.
But with it being a horror film,what happens with this is they
like to give you a backstory,teaser, and then you get more of
the backstory as our heroes arefurther into the plot and
they're figuring out things ontheir own.
So we'll forgive
Steve (08:51):
them for now.
I don't need to even forgivethem for that.
I think that it's nice and shortand sweet and it tells you
everything you need to know.
There were two brothers and oneof them was probably fucked up.
And we'll figure out the restalong the way.
That was all I needed from it.
Oh, okay.
Better than that, than a 45minute.
Who is Michael Myers as a child?
Stephen (09:08):
Oh, let's not even talk about Rob Zombies
Steve (09:10):
movies.
All right, there you go.
So we fast forward to thepresent.
Six college students are ontheir way to a highly
anticipated sports ball game.
Carly Jones is an ambitiousyoung woman who's planning to
move to New York for aninternship with In Style
Magazine, but her boyfriend,Wade is a small town boy who's
hesitant about moving to the bigcity and is totally over having
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Carly's twin brother Nick in thepicture because he's a
delinquent, they're joined ontheir trip.
I called Carly's friend PaigeEdwards, who may or may not be
pregnant with her boyfriend,Blake's child, although she
hasn't told him yet.
If she's not yet, she's tryingto get pregnant with him, by the
way.
They're constantly all over eachother.
Nick's comments to the groupabout how their parents say
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Carly's the good twin and he'sthe bad twin.
And I have a feeling that we'regoing towards a twin theme here.
Yep.
He also brought along his ratherannoying and immature friend
Dalton to act as a shield justin case they get attacked.
First impressions of thesecharacters.
So
Stephen (10:09):
Nick is instantly unlikeable from the way he
treats everyone.
Dalton also because he justparrots what Nick says and
laughs at whatever Nick says.
Blake seems more concerned abouthis car than about Paige, as if
she were an afterthought.
Carly seems nice enough and sheand Wade seemed good.
But you can also tell that theinternship was a plot device
(10:31):
just to create some tension withthem.
And nothing more because theyseem pretty solid.
Fine.
Yeah.
And yet, and fine.
So in terms of cannon fodder,
Steve (10:43):
they all work
Stephen (10:44):
well, I would say especially Blake.
Paige and Dalton seem likecannon
Steve (10:48):
fodder.
Yes, correct.
We'll see though.
Maybe one of those is our finalgirl.
You never know.
Now, when night falls, the groupdecides to set up camp for the.
F next morning in a field aftera detour derails their plans of
a shortcut through the middle ofnowhere.
What could go wrong?
Yeah.
They see a sign for Trudy'shouse of Wax, which sounds nice.
Stephen (11:10):
Is it cuz her name is Trudy?
Steve (11:12):
Yes.
Yes.
Carly tells Paige that Blake'sparents will never let him marry
her even if she is pregnant,because they're different skin
colors.
Stephen (11:21):
And also I take it to be Blake is better than
extremely, extremely wealthy.
Yeah.
And Carly or Paige is probably.
White trash.
Steve (11:31):
Yes.
We also learned that Nick gotarrested for sailing a car, to
which we're not surprised.
The wind blows in the smell ofdeath.
Confirming they chose theperfect spot to rest for the
night.
Yes.
Now have you I have never gonecamping, so ever, ever, ever.
So do you have any experience,scary experiences, camping?
I mean, I would assume that.
(11:51):
You must have like a what?
A 50 50 chance of gettingmurdered in real life.
Okay,
Stephen (11:55):
so first growing up in West Virginia and being in Cub
Scouts, I went camping severaltimes.
Mm-hmm.
Even one family camping tripwhere Mama Martin slept in a
tent.
Mm-hmm.
So, That's saying something.
Yeah.
Also, there was a lot ofbackyard camping at friends'
houses for birthday parties andthings where, because everyone
(12:16):
lived on the edge of the woodsmm-hmm.
You just set up a tent somewherein their acreage of backyards.
Yeah.
And sometimes mom and dad le letus sleep out on the trampoline
in the backyard in the summer,which is kind of like camping
without a tent.
Steve (12:29):
Yeah.
And you're less likely to get
Stephen (12:30):
murdered then.
But, and to answer yourquestion, no much less murder
happens in camping than issuggested.
I would say I was only murderedthree or four times, so that's
less than half the times
Steve (12:42):
I was camping.
Well, there you go.
Sounds fair.
Yeah.
All right.
Well, I say that if you wantedto do meditation retreat, we
should find where we can goglamping in the mountains.
Stephen (12:52):
That's kind of what I did in North Carolina.
Yeah.
Well, we'll
Steve (12:55):
find one where I can talk.
Stephen (12:57):
Okay.
Well, there are ones there whereyou don't have to be silent
with.
Steve (13:00):
All right.
That's where you lost me.
Now they all are making out whenthe campsite is visited by a
mysterious estrangement or truckwho shines his light at the
campsite, but refuses to leave,speak, or turn off his lights
creepy.
Nick, an expert at firstimpressions, throws a beer
bottle at the truck, breakingthe headlight, and then poses
with the group ready to whip hisstick out before the driver
(13:21):
backs off and drives
Stephen (13:22):
away.
Yeah.
Like the way that they were allstanding at, like in and towards
the truck.
I know.
I'm like, are they all,
Steve (13:29):
are they all gonna stand on each other's shoulders and
show the truck that they'rebigger than it?
Yeah.
Like it's not a bear.
Stephen (13:34):
They're, they're about to do Muppet man.
Steve (13:37):
Yeah, exactly.
And car.
Later that night when everyone'sasleep, Carly detects someone
enters their camp, but Wadegaslights her into thinking it's
nothing
Stephen (13:46):
convinces her.
He didn't
Steve (13:48):
gaslight her well.
He's like, it must be nothing.
And like, obviously you'recamping.
I would send you a littlefurther.
Now.
Carly was correct and someonegets Dalton's camera and films
them sleeping now watching themall make out or watch.
The couples make out, likearound the campfire brought me
(14:09):
back to a certain time in mylife where that was acceptable.
Was that something that was justin a circle of friends in my
time, or did you go through aphase where
Stephen (14:16):
No, that's totally a college thing.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Okay.
It's just not a thing you do innormal.
Every day life once you're out
Steve (14:26):
of college.
Yeah.
I was just watching it.
I was like, I can't even imaginemaking out with you in front of
any of our friends or familyright now.
No, it's just rude.
I know.
It's just weird that when kidsgo through an age, they're like,
let's all fool around or infront of each other.
Yeah.
Weird.
I'm
Stephen (14:40):
glad I grew up.
Well, the next morning at 2:30PM in the afternoon, yes.
Wade discovers that his fan belthas been torn or cut.
Mm-hmm.
We're just broken.
Carly and Paige, meanwhile,Discover a large ditch filled
with lots and lots and lots ofroadkill, and where she gets her
(15:00):
hands stuck in it.
And Steve thinks that that isthe coolest, most awesome scene
in
Steve (15:06):
the movie.
No, this was the worst part.
I hated it.
I could barely watch it.
I was crawling out of my skin,like show me people getting
sliced up or turned into wax ormurdered or whatever, and I'm
fine.
But like the idea of having yourhands slide and slip through
like a pile of roadkill and likegetting stuck in it is just not
a place that I want to be.
Yeah.
Stephen (15:27):
Now 2:30 PM
Yes.
Steve (15:29):
I know that kids at that age sleep late, but can you
imagine, go like having been acamper, could you like with all
the daylight things that happenin day sleep until 2:30 PM on a
camping
Stephen (15:40):
trip?
No.
They would've had to have been.
Drunk Beyond Belief and passedout to, and have stayed up till
like dawn to have slept until2:30 PM Like I've stayed up till
dawn before and things, but I'venever been able to sleep till
two 30 the next afternoon.
No, that's
Steve (16:00):
wild.
Okay.
Well, a disheveled man with poorhygiene shows up in a truck and
tosses a deer carcass into thealready overflowing pit.
Mm.
The group points out a humanhand in there.
He walks through the muck andpulls it out and it's a
mannequin hand.
Ah, he offers to drive Carly andWade to the nearby town of
Ambrose to get a new fan beltwhile the rest of the group goes
to the football game.
(16:21):
However, the rest of the groupSoons finds themselves in a
traffic jam and decides toreturn to the campsite to wait
for a wade in Carly to returnfrom Ambrose.
Well, maybe if
Stephen (16:30):
they hadn't slept till two 30, they might have, they
would've made
Steve (16:32):
it into the time.
Yep.
It's all their fault and theywould've never have gotten
murdered then probably.
Wade and Carly are creeped outby the roadkill transporter and
get out and walk to Aus on theirown during the last round the
corner offending the driver.
Yep.
Now, would you want to get, getoutta that car?
I'm not saying that I wanna makefriends with the guy or trade
(16:53):
phone numbers or Facebookinformation.
Yeah.
But he didn't seem anythingother than a pervy creepy
redneck, right?
No.
Yeah, I
Stephen (17:00):
would've let him drive me there.
I saw him as weird, but notdangerous.
Their friend group knew exactlywhere they were going.
Could describe the man and histruck.
Yeah, probably someone took downthe license plate.
I think they were completelysafe.
The creepy line that he hadthough was you can get used to
(17:21):
anything if you're around itlong enough.
Steve (17:24):
It's been working in our marriage.
Stephen (17:27):
Yeah, it doesn't work with the Ultra MAGA though, and
certain members of the family.
You never get used to that.
Steve (17:33):
Unfortunately.
Now they all really wanna seethat football game.
What's the furthest you wouldtravel and what kind of event
would it be for?
I'm guessing it would not besports ball.
It is
Stephen (17:43):
not sports ball.
So if you count our trip to NewYork to see Mulan Rouge six,
that's a long way to go for.
An
Steve (17:50):
event, did we go to New York specifically to see
Broadway?
I did.
Okay
Stephen (17:55):
then short, yes.
You went to see your friends?
Mm-hmm.
From the group I went with youto see Broadway.
Sure.
True.
True.
Now we have driven four hours tosee, four and a half hours to
see Adele in concert.
Steve (18:09):
Yeah.
So like would you say thoughthat it, who would it take for
you to drive 12 hours for to seethem in concert?
Oh, fuck.
Is there anyone in the worldfront row, v i p
Stephen (18:24):
seats and getting to hang out with him afterwards?
Yeah.
Paula.
Okay.
Adele.
Okay.
Adina.
All right, Madonna.
Steve (18:32):
There you go.
You didn't even buy tickets tothe Madonna raffle?
I had.
Oops.
We could have had a round tripflight to see her in Vegas.
Or Nevada or something.
Arizona.
I
Stephen (18:45):
know, I meant to.
Okay, there
Steve (18:47):
you go.
Now the town seems almost like aghost town.
Well, no, it is a ghost town.
Yeah.
They see a sign for the MissAmbrose pageant, a movie theater
playing whatever happened toBaby Jane.
And they have a perfect petstore that mean and Grumpy Wade
doesn't let them go into.
Hmm.
They decide to head for thechurch, which is full.
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They meet Bo a mechanic that isan asshole to them because they
didn't realize they were walkinginto a funeral.
Not like there was a signoutside saying A funeral
playing.
Yeah.
He'll, he says he'll meet themat the gas station in 30 minutes
and so they spend their timevisiting the now defunct wax
museum while he finishes up theceremony.
And it's entirely made of wax,like the walls and everything.
(19:28):
Yeah.
And we also get to see Peak ofthem disturbing a man in the
basement working on his next waxfigure.
The couple sees the hide chairsfrom the beginning learning.
One of them belonged to VincentSinclair.
Wade briefly plays the piano,which does not appear to be made
out of wax, but who knows?
That's right.
Scared by the rather eerie waxfigures in the sudden appearance
(19:51):
of a creepy man outside thewindow of the museum.
Wade and Carly go back to thegarage.
Now, would you want to visit awax museum made out of wax if it
wasn't filled with like famouspeople in it?
Stephen (20:04):
So it depends on how large it was.
Yeah.
And how many exhibits therewere, how intricate it
Steve (20:08):
was.
But like this house, like Idon't, I see myself like walking
in, walking around the houselike.
Quickly, not quickly running,but like I would say about
faster an hour.
I think I would get through thatfaster than I would've gotten
the through the Tiffany exhibit.
Stephen (20:22):
See, I would've gone through this and looked at
things because just thecraftsmanship and the artistry
to make everyday things out ofwood, like the whole damn house
out of wood.
I think it's fascinating.
All right.
Oh, you, yeah, wax.
Sorry.
I know not wood.
Steve (20:37):
I know what you mean.
Now gimme a house made outtawood.
Oh wait, that's like mosthouses.
Stephen (20:43):
So they go to the gas station?
Yeah, there's still no bow.
Yeah, they can't find the beltthey need, but they
Steve (20:48):
have like every single other size in stock except the
one specific.
Stephen (20:52):
They have like 12, 13, 14, 16, 17, 18.
Yeah, no, 15.
So he decided to take the 16 andwhich you know, later makes me
wonder.
Did they get rid of the 15because they knew they'd be
coming?
Yep.
And Bo shows up asking if theywere gonna steal that, and Bo
tells them that the size of thebelt they need happens to be
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kept at his house.
And he tells them the story ofthe Sinclair's, the former
owners of the wax museum whilethey walk there.
Apparently Dr.
Victor Sinclair and his wifeTrudy, moved to Ambrose when
Victor was fired for performingexperimental procedures on
patients.
Once in Ambrose, his wife Trudy,discovered a passion for
sculpting wax figures, buteventually fell ill with a brain
(21:35):
lesion and died a depressedvictor and then committed
suicide, leaving the Children'sSinclair as orphans and wards of
the state.
Steve (21:43):
And does that make a good backstory for why this Sinclair
orphans are killers?
Stephen (21:49):
So, so there's definitely more to the story,
but yeah, it's good to get morepieces.
We've now connected that TrudySinclair was the woman at the
beginning.
We figure that it's probablyVincent in the basement and at
the window.
Steve (22:02):
Yes.
Now Wade wanders the house andfinds the room where Trudy was
kept while dying.
Like in both story.
He's not putting two and twotogether quickly enough to know
he is in danger.
While Carly waits in the caroutside of Bo's house, she
discovers that the headlight ofBo's truck is broken, realizing
it must be the same truck thatbothered them the night before.
So she tries to warn Wade byblowing the car horn.
(22:25):
However, as Wade is trying toleave, someone comes from below
and cuts as Achilles tendoncrippling him.
Weta subsequently stabbed andknocked out by the man with lung
hair and a wax mask while Carlyleaves a voicemail to Blake
asking for help.
Now I can we consider at thispoint he's a gunner.
Did you think that he was thetype of first victim type?
(22:47):
No.
Stephen (22:48):
I mean, he obviously wasn't supernatural Jared
Padalecki at this point.
He was Days of our live star,Jared Padalecki at this point.
Mm-hmm.
And or soap Opera Star, whetherit was Days of Our Lives General
Hospital, I don't remember.
But he was a soap opera star atthis point.
Also the love interest.
Yeah.
You don't see that the firstperson killed in a movie like
(23:12):
this is one with had most of thescreen time.
Yeah,
Steve (23:16):
so I was shocked.
Now I was shocked initially, butupon thinking it through and
watching it critically, it doesmake sense because they've
established already the twin.
Angle that they're working withthe movie.
Between having the twin brothersat the beginning and having her
be a twin and having herrelationship with her twin being
strange estranged, that it makessense from a writer's standpoint
(23:36):
to kill off the love interestbecause it takes away her one
protector or her one ally thatshe would consider her go-to in
this upcoming event of crises.
So she has to reconcile and workthrough her things with
Stephen (23:49):
her brother.
And since the writers are alsotwins.
Yeah.
Which set of twins do you thinkthat they associate with more?
Steve (23:56):
Probably the, the evil ones.
The Sinclair twins?
Yeah, the Sinclairs, of course.
Okay.
Yes.
Now revealing his trueintentions, Beau begins chasing
Carly and she eventually ends upin the church and discovers that
all the funeral guests she sawearlier are actually humans
turned into wax figures.
She's captured by Beau, whoadmits he's one of Trudy's kids
and.
Is imprisoned in the cellar ofhis gas station with her lips
(24:18):
glued together.
Bo's brother Vincent, the creepyman Carly saw outside the museum
who captured.
Wade Is embalming a still alive?
Wade in wax.
Now waxing a human alive looksjust as terrifying as it sounds,
right?
Yeah.
But you also can't argue withthose results.
Stephen (24:38):
No.
I mean, the form is gonna beperfect.
Yes.
And it's also interesting thathe waxes off wade's entire
eyebrows so that he can use hisreal eyebrows to put on over the
Steve (24:50):
wax.
I know.
It's really interesting.
Stephen (24:53):
It's also here that we see the scars on Bo's wrists and
realize he's the hellion child.
From the high chair
Steve (24:59):
in the beginning.
There you go.
Now Nick and Dalton soon arrivein Ambrose to look for their
friends.
And upon encountering Beau, Nickasks him whether he's seen Carly
or Wade.
Carly hears Nick's voice andtries to get his attention by
sliding her fingers through thegreats leading Bo to cut off a
fingertip.
Ooh.
Yeah.
Carly manages to rip her lipsopen and scream for help.
(25:21):
Double.
Ugh.
Yeah.
Knocking.
Bow over.
Nick rushes to the rescue andfreeze.
Carly, the siblings discover therest of the Ambrose population
is dead.
Wax preserved and displayed andrigged to make it appear that
the town actually is livingresidents.
Look the noisy neighbor at thewindow pulling back the
curtains.
Ugh.
Now, when did you realize thewhole town was?
(25:42):
What?
Dead wax figure is your first goaround?
Stephen (25:44):
Not very early, like whenever she broke off the arm
at the church.
Yeah.
I still honestly didn't get itfully there.
It, like it was starting toclick, but I, because I saw this
before I saw the original.
Mm-hmm.
So.
(26:05):
I thought that they were justwax figures and I didn't get,
whenever she broke the arm offin the church that it was Yeah.
Blood.
I knew that something was wrongthere.
Yeah.
And I didn't see this in thetheater, so I think I watched it
with Brady and we rewound it andhe was like, I think that's the
inside of an arm.
And like we both got it at thatpoint.
(26:27):
Well, but it was like, Trying tofigure out what was important
Steve (26:30):
about that scene.
Yeah.
And so just question, do Bo andVincent take care of the puppies
themselves then?
The puppies are waxed too, butthe puppies were always made
from wax and they weren't actualpuppies, right?
Stephen (26:44):
Correct.
Those were, those are justsculptures.
They were never real puppies,embalmed, and waxed.
You pinky promise?
I pinky promise.
Do you know how hard it would beto get the fur off of.
A dog like that from waxing it,it wouldn't work.
Okay.
Well, I, and it would be sohorrible to try to sit there and
like glue the hair on piece bypiece.
Steve (27:06):
I'm sure people would do it, but I don't, I don't want to
think about it.
Okay.
I don't, they're not
Stephen (27:10):
real.
Steve (27:10):
Okay, good.
No puppies were harmed in themaking of this film.
Stephen (27:14):
No.
So I think we also need to takea moment to talk about.
How Carly ripped her lips apartfrom the super glue.
Yeah.
That bothered me more than thecarcass fest.
Ugh.
Steve (27:27):
Yeah.
I mean, this film isn't gonnawin any awards for its acting,
or its story or its narrative.
Yeah.
But in terms of if you're cominghere for gore, like it, they
deliver on more than just the,the murder scene, so to speak.
Yeah, there's definitely thebody horror, the body horror.
They do a really good job and isvery effective here.
Stephen (27:46):
At the same time, Dalton enters the house of Wax
and finds Wade covered in wax.
Wade is still alive because youcan hear him going, Hmm, but he
is unable to move Daltonthinking he's doing the right
thing.
Attempts to free Wade by peelingoff the wax.
Ah, as he's doing this, herealizes that he's peeling off
Wade's skin off his face, whichsomehow fused with the wax.
(28:11):
Oh, he's tearing off the skindown to the muscle.
And tears are just falling downWade's face in streams.
Vincent finds Dalton and startsto Chas him and slice off a part
of Wade's face in the process,which causes Wade to finally die
from shock.
Thank goodness.
(28:31):
Dalton falls down the stairs andVincent decapitates him.
And nobody thinks twice aboutDalton ever again.
Steve (28:39):
Not even his parents.
Nope.
Now again, talking about thebody horror, the idea of Wade
getting his face peeled offwhile he was alive in there is
just.
So gross and terrifying.
Yeah.
Now I don't understand the logicbehind any of this, nor do I
want to for that matter.
Yeah.
But do you think at that pointthat any medical team alive
(29:00):
could have saved
Stephen (29:00):
Wade?
So I wondered that the firsttime I saw it.
Could he have been saved?
And so I actually took some timeto think about this yesterday
and I think that the hot waxmelted with his skin and it
became one, like, it was so muchthat it like melted his skin and
they solidified together.
(29:21):
Yeah.
And so without being able forhis skin to breathe like a burn
victim Yeah.
Will die because their skincan't breathe.
I think he probably would'vedied within a day or so on his
own, even if they had gottenhim.
Out and gotten all the wax off,he would've been down to muscle.
And you can't recover
Steve (29:40):
from that.
Stephen (29:42):
No.
No.
There's no, there's not enoughskin grafts in the world to have
made that work.
Steve (29:48):
That is gross.
Now we're reminded that Paigeand Blake are still alive and
exist because we They'recharacters.
Yeah.
And I wouldn't go that far,babe.
But they are two people who arein the movie.
In the movie.
And having sex again or foolingaround still.
Yeah.
Who knows if they ever stoppedand.
(30:08):
Vincent arrives at the campsiteto kill them successfully.
Yep.
Vincent stabs Blake in the neckand then chases Paige to an old
warehouse.
She finds hundreds of cellphones and dozens of cars all
from previous victims.
Vincent finds her, theystruggle, she damages his wax
face, but he ultimately wins byimpaling her on a metal pole
(30:29):
making any potential pregnancy.
A bit of a moot point, correct.
Now while we knew they weregoing to die at some point, did
they end up having any point orimpact on this plot?
Stephen (30:37):
No, honestly not at all.
Like we needed them for a higherbody count.
A bigger chase scene and Paris'sname recognition.
But for plot, no, they were not
Steve (30:48):
necessary.
I agree.
But I enjoy Paris Hilton'seffort and her
Stephen (30:53):
presence, and the more that I've seen this, the more
I'm like, she did not do a badjob in this movie, so I think
she
Steve (30:59):
did the best with what she was given.
Yes.
Now back in Ambrose, things aregoing smoothly and they're all
living happily
Stephen (31:05):
ever after.
I mean, it's a town of waxpeople.
What could go
Steve (31:09):
wrong?
No.
Carly and Nick break into asporting good store to get them
weapons, and Nick sees a signfor Trudy's town of Wax,
Stephen (31:17):
so everything is starting to make
Steve (31:19):
more sense.
Yes, Bo finds them and shoots atthem.
They hide in the movie theaterforever playing whatever
happened to baby Jane,confirming at least one of their
brothers plays for our team.
They face off against Boshooting him with a cross bow
twice and taking his keys, butleaving him unconscious.
But alive, which seemed weirdbecause at this point, if this
was us trying to get out of thistown, we would kill him to
(31:40):
death.
Right?
Stephen (31:41):
Yeah.
So we've shot him with an arrowtwice.
He's laying unconscious on theground.
We either would've taken the,the butt of his rifle and beat
his face in or shot him.
We would've taken, well, theydidn't have any bullets.
Oh.
We take the arrows out of hisbody.
And jammed them through his, hisface.
(32:03):
Yeah.
Like we don't leave him alive.
He's tried to kill us multipletimes, multiple times.
This is self-defense.
Steve (32:11):
Yes.
Now heading to the brother'shouse to look for a wade in
Dalton, they overhear aconversation between Beau and
Vincent who were the Sinclairchildren's scene in 1974, just
in case you haven't figured itout yet.
Yes.
It turns out though, thatVincent is the good twin who is
seen behaving well in theopening scene and simply just
wanted to continue his mother'swork of creating wax figures.
(32:32):
But it was Bo, the evil twin whohad been violent and was.
Tied down in the opening scenethat manipulated him to start
murdering people to make morerealistic wax figures out of
their victims.
Carly also finds new newspapercuttings that report how Dr.
Sinclair separated his Siamesetwin sons at birth, leaving one
Vincent badly.
Discu.
(32:52):
Disfigured.
So I do like the twist that itwasn't the disfigure child that
was the inherently evil one.
Yes.
So what do you say about aclimax being twins versus twins?
Stephen (33:05):
I did like that aspect very much.
And it's funny how this, inFriday the 13th reboot,
ultimately were about a brothersister duo trying to survive.
Steve (33:14):
It is a nice change of the, the final girl and boy.
Yeah.
Now Nick finds the trap door andthe tunnel.
He and Carly attempt to escape,but they can't see anything.
They start flipping switches,turning on and off lights
throughout the whole town,alerting Beau and Vincent as to
where the twins are, and havingSteve still worried that the
puppies are real.
(33:35):
Chase wants more by Beau andVincent.
They eventually end up in thewax museum.
Nick and Vincent fight andaccidentally turn the heat and
fire up.
That can't lead to any problemsin a housemate of wax.
Not at all.
Nick dumps some of the wax andit starts a fire in the house of
wax, and then it begins to meltas Nick and Carly try to escape.
They knock over people,sculptures, and they break
(33:55):
apart.
Bo gets his head beaten the fuckin by Carly with a bat for the
win.
Yes.
His injuries now match Vincent'sface, which I didn't notice
could catch.
Yep.
Upon seeing Bo's lifeless body,Vincent in anger becomes fixated
on killing Carly in revengedespite her trying to reason
with him over his family'shistory of corrupt ways.
(34:16):
You're not
Stephen (34:16):
a freak.
You're an
Steve (34:17):
artist.
Both can be applicable at thispoint.
Yep.
He chases her upstairs to abedroom with a wax replica of
the conjoined twins in the waxcrib, and I love, as he slices
it
Stephen (34:27):
down, yeah, he slices through the door, cutting the
twins again.
There's more fighting, andVincent is stabbed by Carly.
And pushed through the wax floorto his death by Nick where he
lands on his brother's corpse inthe same position that they were
conjoined.
That's called symbolism folks.
Yep.
The house is melting aroundthem.
(34:48):
They can't get to the front doorto escape.
They can't really get back upthe stairs cuz the stairs are
starting to melt.
And Carly and Nick then managedto dig their way out to safety
through a second story wall.
They emerge inside the house ofwax sign and they're burning
themselves repeatedly on theliquid melted wax as they slide
(35:10):
out to safety.
The smoke from the blazeeventually draws outside help,
and the siblings discovered thatthe town had long ago been
abandoned, and then it wasn'teven on a map any longer.
As the ma ambulance carriesCarly and Nick away.
The sheriff learns that therewere actually three Sinclair
children.
What I know, the film ends witha shot of the roadkill
(35:33):
transporter petting Bo BowenVincent's dog, and waving to
Carly and Nick as theirambulance leaves Ambrose leaving
audience to think if theseemingly innocent man is one of
the Sinclair brothers.
He was,
Steve (35:47):
yeah.
Thoughts on the ending?
Stephen (35:49):
It was a very cool visual of the house and its
contents melting during thefight.
Like that was fantastic.
Mm-hmm.
The floor melting under theirfootsteps and sucking down Bo's
body and the people on the housefalling apart as they crawl
through the wall as itcollapses.
So, very cool.
Steve (36:06):
Yeah.
And I also love the twist of thethird brother.
Yes.
Stephen (36:11):
And like, It was all very well done, and I think the
thing that we can all take fromthis movie is it's Blake's fault
for trying to take
Steve (36:24):
a shortcut.
Yes, it is.
And also don't go to footballgames.
Yeah, I agree.
All right, now, The one thing Iwould say about this movie, as
much as we enjoy it and it makesus happy, is that, like I
mentioned earlier, thecharacters lack extremely.
Yeah.
Do you feel like Nick grew atall through this experience or
that either one is gonna comeout of the other side better
(36:45):
than they came into it?
Well,
Stephen (36:47):
Carly's not gonna feel guilty about leaving Wade to go
to her internship.
Steve (36:51):
No.
But can she still sew her?
Whatever she does with.
Out a
Stephen (36:55):
finger.
I don't know what she was gonnado for like in Style Magazine.
She may have just been a writer.
Okay.
Nick definitely got earlyredemption when we found out
that he didn't actually stealthe car that Dalton did, and he
just took the blame for it sincehe already had a police record.
He also admits that Wade isn't abad guy.
Doesn't matter now.
And that he actually acts theway he does because of a
(37:19):
self-fulfilling prophecysituation with his parents
saying he's always the bad one.
So we might as well be, we seehe truly loves his sister.
He put himself in harm's way tosave her.
In the end, I do think thischanges him permanently and
probably puts him on a betterpath.
You know, living, het
Steve (37:37):
he living, he won't be another bow.
Nope.
Stephen (37:39):
Maybe he'll live somewhere nice.
With one tree on a hill.
There
Steve (37:44):
we go.
Ugh.
All right, my love.
Well, any other final thoughtson the movie?
Stephen (37:50):
It's fun.
I like that they didn't try todo a total like remake Like they
did with psycho, where it wasalmost a shot for shot remake
that this, they took the idea ofsomeone being demented and
making people out of wax andreally changed it around.
(38:14):
So I liked that it was a freshtake on the original idea.
Steve (38:19):
Yes, I agree.
So, you know what I also agreeis awesome and makes me happy.
Stephen (38:26):
It's probably our
Steve (38:26):
listeners.
It is.
And we would love to hear whatyou think of the House of Wax as
well as this episode.
You can always email us at HappyLife pod@gmail.com
Stephen (38:36):
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Steve (38:44):
Pod and until next time, everybody stay
Stephen (38:47):
happy.
Happy and stay out of abandonedtowns
Steve (38:51):
if you can.
Hello, returning Happys and new listeners.
This is Steve Bennett Martin.
And this is Steven
Stephen (00:07):
Martin Bennett, and welcome to a lifetime
Steve (00:10):
of happiness.
The podcast where we take you onour journey through some of the
movies, shows, and other bits ofpop culture that are helping
keep us happy, while hopefullyyou bring a smile to your face
along the way.
Stephen (00:19):
And today we're joining Paris Hilton on a trip to a wax
museum where nothing couldpossibly go wrong with the 2005
remake House of Wax.
That's
Steve (00:30):
hot.
Yes.
But both.
Well, yes.
And why does House of Wax makeyou so happy?
Stephen (00:36):
So, I've always been fascinated by wax museums.
To be able to take likerecognizable figures and
recreate them out of wax, Ithink is really fun.
Mm-hmm.
And we had such a good time atMadame CUSO's Yeah.
In New York City.
And dad took me to Madame CUSO'sin San Francisco when I was like
nine or 10.
(00:56):
And I just, you know, you know,I love old movies.
Yeah.
And so of course I've seen theoriginal with the incomparable
Vincent Price as the Star.
Mm-hmm.
And I also just love a goodslasher.
So this is a fun movie with aninteresting premise and the
isolation of it all makes it somuch creepier because, you know,
help is not coming.
Steve (01:17):
Yes, that does make it scary and I love it, but you
know what is coming?
No drag queens because they'remaking me happy right now in pop
culture today.
Do tell.
Well, it's RuPaul's Drag RaceAll-Star.
Season eight has kicked off.
Ooh.
And we are a couple weeks inright now.
What are your initialimpressions on this
Stephen (01:38):
season?
So I will fully admit when Ifirst heard the cast, I was
like, oh, okay.
It seems heavily weightedtowards three individuals.
Yeah.
And then whenever the peoplecame back, I was like, I did not
give all the girls enoughcredit.
Mm-hmm.
Because there are someincredible talents this season.
(02:01):
Yeah.
Steve (02:02):
They might have become all stars after they were on the
show.
Yes.
Even though you never saw themas all stars in the show.
Stephen (02:08):
But of course, I'm rooting for my favorite shunt
and shuffle.
Heidi in closet.
Heidi in closet.
She's just fantastic.
Yes,
Steve (02:17):
and I'm a Jimbo bimbo.
And what else has been makingyou happy?
Stephen (02:25):
Well, for dozens of hours already, it feels like I
have been playing Zelda Tears ofthe Kingdom on the Nintendo
Switch, and it is.
Everything I could have hopedfor.
Yeah, a must play.
Yes, 100%.
And tell me a little bit moreabout this House of Wax movie.
(02:47):
Well,
Steve (02:48):
house of Wax is a 2005 slasher film directed by Jean
Collette Sarah in hisdirectorial debut.
He's the person who later wenton to do 2000 nines orphan, and
20 sixteens the shallows, whichyou liked and I liked as well,
correct.
Stephen (03:02):
Yes.
I mean, that's some pretty goodhorror pedigree.
Orphan had that amazing twistand The Shallows is just a
fantastic movie.
And you know how that scene fromthe Conjuring made me jump outta
my chair, literally
Steve (03:15):
at the theater?
Yeah.
We have the same writers doBehind the Conjuring doing this.
Chad and Carrie w Hayes.
Yes.
And they're twins, not lovers.
Well, good to know.
Yes.
And it's stars.
Alicia Cuthbert, Chad, MichaelMurray, Brian Van Holt, Paris,
Hilton, and Jared, pa, pki,Padalecki, whatever you might
(03:37):
know.
Eli.
Alicia.
Alicia if you're a Canadian, cuzthat's where all of her shows
and movies are from before this.
Stephen (03:44):
But she also really came to fame on 24.
Oh, okay.
That was where I knew her and.
She was the daughter.
She was the daughter on there,and then she also went on to
This great sitcom on ABC calledHappy Endings.
Steve (04:01):
Okay, cool.
And then I know Chad fromOnetree Hill growing up.
That was one of the CW showsthat I watched like every other
show on the wb.
It was back then, except thatone, and I don't know why, but I
watched all the other ones onthe station so much that I feel
like I know basically whathappened on the show because I
saw every preview.
Stephen (04:18):
Yeah.
Bethany Joy Lens, who was alsoon there was one of my favorites
from Goding Light.
Yeah.
And.
I'm shocked.
I didn't watch it either.
Knowing how much I enjoy her.
Steve (04:29):
Yes.
And Peck is from theSupernatural, all 75 seasons.
Yep.
And you should all know ParisHilton by name or shame on you.
And Brian
Stephen (04:39):
Van Holt went on to be idiot.
Bobby Cobb on Cougar Town.
Oh, you love that one.
I love Cougar Town.
Steve (04:45):
Yes.
And funny story about this pairwe have, Jared.
Padi, who is one foot tallerthan CoStar, Alicia Koh Bart to
make herself appear taller inscenes where she and he would be
filmed together, she taped twoinch blocks of wood to the
bottom of her boots.
This was only done during thescenes where they would be shot
from the knee up because youdidn't wanna see her running
(05:06):
around in those and have toexplain it.
Yeah.
But that also explains why herheight changes in relation to
the other characters elsewhere.
Stephen (05:14):
Jared Padalecki and Paris Hilton leader appear in an
episode of SupernaturalTogether, also centered around a
wax museum.
And there's even reference tothis movie in the episode.
I've never seen
Steve (05:25):
Supernatural.
No.
But now I wanna watch thisepisode specifically just to
see.
The, that story.
Yeah.
And Brian Van Holt plays theroles of both Beau and Vincent
Sinclair undergoing an extensivehair and makeup transformation
for the latter.
Or the former, depending on howyou're looking
Stephen (05:42):
at it.
Yes.
It had a budget of 40 million ina box office of 70.1, so it did
just fine by box officestandards.
Yeah,
Steve (05:50):
but if I ever managed to turn 40 million into 70 million,
please consider it a success.
A huge success, yes.
Now, aside from the title andthe setting of the WAX museum,
apparently this has noconnection to the original film
House of Wax from 1953.
Is that.
True.
I didn't realize you had watchedit.
Stephen (06:06):
I have.
I love Vincent Price.
Funny story cuz next week we'redoing House on Haunted Hill.
Vincent Price was also the starof the original house on Haunted
Steve (06:17):
Hill.
There you go.
So Im DB said that one was aboutan associate burning down a wax
museum with the owner inside whosurvives only to become vengeful
and murderous.
Does that sum it up?
Stephen (06:28):
It kind of does, but I am DB's also kind of shitty
because that's the twist on themovie because someone be, is
murderous.
Oh, but you don't know who.
No, and because we see VincentPrice and his face is completely
fine.
Yeah.
And the murderer does not looklike that.
So like you don't think it'sVincent Price until the end.
(06:54):
When his wax face is broken andthe horrible, disfigured burnt
thing is underneath.
So, okay, I am db.
Bad on you, you fail.
Steve (07:04):
Well also though, at the same time, playing devil's
advocate is I think that 80years is past the spoiler zone
Stephen (07:12):
probably.
But I mean, I still wouldn't putit in a, like a twist in the
summary.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That would be kind of like, likehaving scream be
Steve (07:23):
just like the one where Billy, yeah.
Stephen (07:24):
Where Billy Loomis chases his girlfriend and her
friends.
You're like, thanks.
I am db.
Steve (07:30):
Yeah.
Okay.
True.
Touche, Shay.
Now what happens with thismovie?
Stephen (07:35):
Well, the movie begins with a scene set in 1974.
A woman is boiling hot wax tomake wax masks.
Say that five times
Steve (07:45):
fast.
Oh, thank you.
Stephen (07:47):
With her young son, he who is eating his breakfast and
a high chair, and their facesall remain intentionally out of
the camera.
Suddenly the father comes inholding a near hysterical second
son who is kicking and screamingwildly.
The second kid has to bestrapped down into a highchair
due to his apparently violentnature, and we see marks and
(08:10):
scars and cuts on his arms andis compared negatively to the
other child.
Steve (08:15):
Yeah, that brings me right back to what it was like
watching them.
My, my parents get Mickey intohis highchair.
Stephen (08:21):
I think you need to explain that more.
Steve (08:23):
No, I'm kidding.
It wasn't like that at all.
He was a little bra sometimes,but by no means was he a
monster.
Okay.
And for this movie, is thisenough of a backstory?
Stephen (08:33):
It's pretty quick.
So usually I would say no.
But with it being a horror film,what happens with this is they
like to give you a backstory,teaser, and then you get more of
the backstory as our heroes arefurther into the plot and
they're figuring out things ontheir own.
So we'll forgive
Steve (08:51):
them for now.
I don't need to even forgivethem for that.
I think that it's nice and shortand sweet and it tells you
everything you need to know.
There were two brothers and oneof them was probably fucked up.
And we'll figure out the restalong the way.
That was all I needed from it.
Oh, okay.
Better than that, than a 45minute.
Who is Michael Myers as a child?
Stephen (09:08):
Oh, let's not even talk about Rob Zombies
Steve (09:10):
movies.
All right, there you go.
So we fast forward to thepresent.
Six college students are ontheir way to a highly
anticipated sports ball game.
Carly Jones is an ambitiousyoung woman who's planning to
move to New York for aninternship with In Style
Magazine, but her boyfriend,Wade is a small town boy who's
hesitant about moving to the bigcity and is totally over having
(09:32):
Carly's twin brother Nick in thepicture because he's a
delinquent, they're joined ontheir trip.
I called Carly's friend PaigeEdwards, who may or may not be
pregnant with her boyfriend,Blake's child, although she
hasn't told him yet.
If she's not yet, she's tryingto get pregnant with him, by the
way.
They're constantly all over eachother.
Nick's comments to the groupabout how their parents say
(09:54):
Carly's the good twin and he'sthe bad twin.
And I have a feeling that we'regoing towards a twin theme here.
Yep.
He also brought along his ratherannoying and immature friend
Dalton to act as a shield justin case they get attacked.
First impressions of thesecharacters.
So
Stephen (10:09):
Nick is instantly unlikeable from the way he
treats everyone.
Dalton also because he justparrots what Nick says and
laughs at whatever Nick says.
Blake seems more concerned abouthis car than about Paige, as if
she were an afterthought.
Carly seems nice enough and sheand Wade seemed good.
But you can also tell that theinternship was a plot device
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just to create some tension withthem.
And nothing more because theyseem pretty solid.
Fine.
Yeah.
And yet, and fine.
So in terms of cannon fodder,
Steve (10:43):
they all work
Stephen (10:44):
well, I would say especially Blake.
Paige and Dalton seem likecannon
Steve (10:48):
fodder.
Yes, correct.
We'll see though.
Maybe one of those is our finalgirl.
You never know.
Now, when night falls, the groupdecides to set up camp for the.
F next morning in a field aftera detour derails their plans of
a shortcut through the middle ofnowhere.
What could go wrong?
Yeah.
They see a sign for Trudy'shouse of Wax, which sounds nice.
Stephen (11:10):
Is it cuz her name is Trudy?
Steve (11:12):
Yes.
Yes.
Carly tells Paige that Blake'sparents will never let him marry
her even if she is pregnant,because they're different skin
colors.
Stephen (11:21):
And also I take it to be Blake is better than
extremely, extremely wealthy.
Yeah.
And Carly or Paige is probably.
White trash.
Steve (11:31):
Yes.
We also learned that Nick gotarrested for sailing a car, to
which we're not surprised.
The wind blows in the smell ofdeath.
Confirming they chose theperfect spot to rest for the
night.
Yes.
Now have you I have never gonecamping, so ever, ever, ever.
So do you have any experience,scary experiences, camping?
I mean, I would assume that.
(11:51):
You must have like a what?
A 50 50 chance of gettingmurdered in real life.
Okay,
Stephen (11:55):
so first growing up in West Virginia and being in Cub
Scouts, I went camping severaltimes.
Mm-hmm.
Even one family camping tripwhere Mama Martin slept in a
tent.
Mm-hmm.
So, That's saying something.
Yeah.
Also, there was a lot ofbackyard camping at friends'
houses for birthday parties andthings where, because everyone
(12:16):
lived on the edge of the woodsmm-hmm.
You just set up a tent somewherein their acreage of backyards.
Yeah.
And sometimes mom and dad le letus sleep out on the trampoline
in the backyard in the summer,which is kind of like camping
without a tent.
Steve (12:29):
Yeah.
And you're less likely to get
Stephen (12:30):
murdered then.
But, and to answer yourquestion, no much less murder
happens in camping than issuggested.
I would say I was only murderedthree or four times, so that's
less than half the times
Steve (12:42):
I was camping.
Well, there you go.
Sounds fair.
Yeah.
All right.
Well, I say that if you wantedto do meditation retreat, we
should find where we can goglamping in the mountains.
Stephen (12:52):
That's kind of what I did in North Carolina.
Yeah.
Well, we'll
Steve (12:55):
find one where I can talk.
Stephen (12:57):
Okay.
Well, there are ones there whereyou don't have to be silent
with.
Steve (13:00):
All right.
That's where you lost me.
Now they all are making out whenthe campsite is visited by a
mysterious estrangement or truckwho shines his light at the
campsite, but refuses to leave,speak, or turn off his lights
creepy.
Nick, an expert at firstimpressions, throws a beer
bottle at the truck, breakingthe headlight, and then poses
with the group ready to whip hisstick out before the driver
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backs off and drives
Stephen (13:22):
away.
Yeah.
Like the way that they were allstanding at, like in and towards
the truck.
I know.
I'm like, are they all,
Steve (13:29):
are they all gonna stand on each other's shoulders and
show the truck that they'rebigger than it?
Yeah.
Like it's not a bear.
Stephen (13:34):
They're, they're about to do Muppet man.
Steve (13:37):
Yeah, exactly.
And car.
Later that night when everyone'sasleep, Carly detects someone
enters their camp, but Wadegaslights her into thinking it's
nothing
Stephen (13:46):
convinces her.
He didn't
Steve (13:48):
gaslight her well.
He's like, it must be nothing.
And like, obviously you'recamping.
I would send you a littlefurther.
Now.
Carly was correct and someonegets Dalton's camera and films
them sleeping now watching themall make out or watch.
The couples make out, likearound the campfire brought me
(14:09):
back to a certain time in mylife where that was acceptable.
Was that something that was justin a circle of friends in my
time, or did you go through aphase where
Stephen (14:16):
No, that's totally a college thing.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Okay.
It's just not a thing you do innormal.
Every day life once you're out
Steve (14:26):
of college.
Yeah.
I was just watching it.
I was like, I can't even imaginemaking out with you in front of
any of our friends or familyright now.
No, it's just rude.
I know.
It's just weird that when kidsgo through an age, they're like,
let's all fool around or infront of each other.
Yeah.
Weird.
I'm
Stephen (14:40):
glad I grew up.
Well, the next morning at 2:30PM in the afternoon, yes.
Wade discovers that his fan belthas been torn or cut.
Mm-hmm.
We're just broken.
Carly and Paige, meanwhile,Discover a large ditch filled
with lots and lots and lots ofroadkill, and where she gets her
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hands stuck in it.
And Steve thinks that that isthe coolest, most awesome scene
in
Steve (15:06):
the movie.
No, this was the worst part.
I hated it.
I could barely watch it.
I was crawling out of my skin,like show me people getting
sliced up or turned into wax ormurdered or whatever, and I'm
fine.
But like the idea of having yourhands slide and slip through
like a pile of roadkill and likegetting stuck in it is just not
a place that I want to be.
Yeah.
Stephen (15:27):
Now 2:30 PM
Yes.
Steve (15:29):
I know that kids at that age sleep late, but can you
imagine, go like having been acamper, could you like with all
the daylight things that happenin day sleep until 2:30 PM on a
camping
Stephen (15:40):
trip?
No.
They would've had to have been.
Drunk Beyond Belief and passedout to, and have stayed up till
like dawn to have slept until2:30 PM Like I've stayed up till
dawn before and things, but I'venever been able to sleep till
two 30 the next afternoon.
No, that's
Steve (16:00):
wild.
Okay.
Well, a disheveled man with poorhygiene shows up in a truck and
tosses a deer carcass into thealready overflowing pit.
Mm.
The group points out a humanhand in there.
He walks through the muck andpulls it out and it's a
mannequin hand.
Ah, he offers to drive Carly andWade to the nearby town of
Ambrose to get a new fan beltwhile the rest of the group goes
to the football game.
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However, the rest of the groupSoons finds themselves in a
traffic jam and decides toreturn to the campsite to wait
for a wade in Carly to returnfrom Ambrose.
Well, maybe if
Stephen (16:30):
they hadn't slept till two 30, they might have, they
would've made
Steve (16:32):
it into the time.
Yep.
It's all their fault and theywould've never have gotten
murdered then probably.
Wade and Carly are creeped outby the roadkill transporter and
get out and walk to Aus on theirown during the last round the
corner offending the driver.
Yep.
Now, would you want to get, getoutta that car?
I'm not saying that I wanna makefriends with the guy or trade
(16:53):
phone numbers or Facebookinformation.
Yeah.
But he didn't seem anythingother than a pervy creepy
redneck, right?
No.
Yeah, I
Stephen (17:00):
would've let him drive me there.
I saw him as weird, but notdangerous.
Their friend group knew exactlywhere they were going.
Could describe the man and histruck.
Yeah, probably someone took downthe license plate.
I think they were completelysafe.
The creepy line that he hadthough was you can get used to
(17:21):
anything if you're around itlong enough.
Steve (17:24):
It's been working in our marriage.
Stephen (17:27):
Yeah, it doesn't work with the Ultra MAGA though, and
certain members of the family.
You never get used to that.
Steve (17:33):
Unfortunately.
Now they all really wanna seethat football game.
What's the furthest you wouldtravel and what kind of event
would it be for?
I'm guessing it would not besports ball.
It is
Stephen (17:43):
not sports ball.
So if you count our trip to NewYork to see Mulan Rouge six,
that's a long way to go for.
An
Steve (17:50):
event, did we go to New York specifically to see
Broadway?
I did.
Okay
Stephen (17:55):
then short, yes.
You went to see your friends?
Mm-hmm.
From the group I went with youto see Broadway.
Sure.
True.
True.
Now we have driven four hours tosee, four and a half hours to
see Adele in concert.
Steve (18:09):
Yeah.
So like would you say thoughthat it, who would it take for
you to drive 12 hours for to seethem in concert?
Oh, fuck.
Is there anyone in the worldfront row, v i p
Stephen (18:24):
seats and getting to hang out with him afterwards?
Yeah.
Paula.
Okay.
Adele.
Okay.
Adina.
All right, Madonna.
Steve (18:32):
There you go.
You didn't even buy tickets tothe Madonna raffle?
I had.
Oops.
We could have had a round tripflight to see her in Vegas.
Or Nevada or something.
Arizona.
I
Stephen (18:45):
know, I meant to.
Okay, there
Steve (18:47):
you go.
Now the town seems almost like aghost town.
Well, no, it is a ghost town.
Yeah.
They see a sign for the MissAmbrose pageant, a movie theater
playing whatever happened toBaby Jane.
And they have a perfect petstore that mean and Grumpy Wade
doesn't let them go into.
Hmm.
They decide to head for thechurch, which is full.
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They meet Bo a mechanic that isan asshole to them because they
didn't realize they were walkinginto a funeral.
Not like there was a signoutside saying A funeral
playing.
Yeah.
He'll, he says he'll meet themat the gas station in 30 minutes
and so they spend their timevisiting the now defunct wax
museum while he finishes up theceremony.
And it's entirely made of wax,like the walls and everything.
(19:28):
Yeah.
And we also get to see Peak ofthem disturbing a man in the
basement working on his next waxfigure.
The couple sees the hide chairsfrom the beginning learning.
One of them belonged to VincentSinclair.
Wade briefly plays the piano,which does not appear to be made
out of wax, but who knows?
That's right.
Scared by the rather eerie waxfigures in the sudden appearance
(19:51):
of a creepy man outside thewindow of the museum.
Wade and Carly go back to thegarage.
Now, would you want to visit awax museum made out of wax if it
wasn't filled with like famouspeople in it?
Stephen (20:04):
So it depends on how large it was.
Yeah.
And how many exhibits therewere, how intricate it
Steve (20:08):
was.
But like this house, like Idon't, I see myself like walking
in, walking around the houselike.
Quickly, not quickly running,but like I would say about
faster an hour.
I think I would get through thatfaster than I would've gotten
the through the Tiffany exhibit.
Stephen (20:22):
See, I would've gone through this and looked at
things because just thecraftsmanship and the artistry
to make everyday things out ofwood, like the whole damn house
out of wood.
I think it's fascinating.
All right.
Oh, you, yeah, wax.
Sorry.
I know not wood.
Steve (20:37):
I know what you mean.
Now gimme a house made outtawood.
Oh wait, that's like mosthouses.
Stephen (20:43):
So they go to the gas station?
Yeah, there's still no bow.
Yeah, they can't find the beltthey need, but they
Steve (20:48):
have like every single other size in stock except the
one specific.
Stephen (20:52):
They have like 12, 13, 14, 16, 17, 18.
Yeah, no, 15.
So he decided to take the 16 andwhich you know, later makes me
wonder.
Did they get rid of the 15because they knew they'd be
coming?
Yep.
And Bo shows up asking if theywere gonna steal that, and Bo
tells them that the size of thebelt they need happens to be
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kept at his house.
And he tells them the story ofthe Sinclair's, the former
owners of the wax museum whilethey walk there.
Apparently Dr.
Victor Sinclair and his wifeTrudy, moved to Ambrose when
Victor was fired for performingexperimental procedures on
patients.
Once in Ambrose, his wife Trudy,discovered a passion for
sculpting wax figures, buteventually fell ill with a brain
(21:35):
lesion and died a depressedvictor and then committed
suicide, leaving the Children'sSinclair as orphans and wards of
the state.
Steve (21:43):
And does that make a good backstory for why this Sinclair
orphans are killers?
Stephen (21:49):
So, so there's definitely more to the story,
but yeah, it's good to get morepieces.
We've now connected that TrudySinclair was the woman at the
beginning.
We figure that it's probablyVincent in the basement and at
the window.
Steve (22:02):
Yes.
Now Wade wanders the house andfinds the room where Trudy was
kept while dying.
Like in both story.
He's not putting two and twotogether quickly enough to know
he is in danger.
While Carly waits in the caroutside of Bo's house, she
discovers that the headlight ofBo's truck is broken, realizing
it must be the same truck thatbothered them the night before.
So she tries to warn Wade byblowing the car horn.
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However, as Wade is trying toleave, someone comes from below
and cuts as Achilles tendoncrippling him.
Weta subsequently stabbed andknocked out by the man with lung
hair and a wax mask while Carlyleaves a voicemail to Blake
asking for help.
Now I can we consider at thispoint he's a gunner.
Did you think that he was thetype of first victim type?
(22:47):
No.
Stephen (22:48):
I mean, he obviously wasn't supernatural Jared
Padalecki at this point.
He was Days of our live star,Jared Padalecki at this point.
Mm-hmm.
And or soap Opera Star, whetherit was Days of Our Lives General
Hospital, I don't remember.
But he was a soap opera star atthis point.
Also the love interest.
Yeah.
You don't see that the firstperson killed in a movie like
(23:12):
this is one with had most of thescreen time.
Yeah,
Steve (23:16):
so I was shocked.
Now I was shocked initially, butupon thinking it through and
watching it critically, it doesmake sense because they've
established already the twin.
Angle that they're working withthe movie.
Between having the twin brothersat the beginning and having her
be a twin and having herrelationship with her twin being
strange estranged, that it makessense from a writer's standpoint
(23:36):
to kill off the love interestbecause it takes away her one
protector or her one ally thatshe would consider her go-to in
this upcoming event of crises.
So she has to reconcile and workthrough her things with
Stephen (23:49):
her brother.
And since the writers are alsotwins.
Yeah.
Which set of twins do you thinkthat they associate with more?
Steve (23:56):
Probably the, the evil ones.
The Sinclair twins?
Yeah, the Sinclairs, of course.
Okay.
Yes.
Now revealing his trueintentions, Beau begins chasing
Carly and she eventually ends upin the church and discovers that
all the funeral guests she sawearlier are actually humans
turned into wax figures.
She's captured by Beau, whoadmits he's one of Trudy's kids
and.
Is imprisoned in the cellar ofhis gas station with her lips
(24:18):
glued together.
Bo's brother Vincent, the creepyman Carly saw outside the museum
who captured.
Wade Is embalming a still alive?
Wade in wax.
Now waxing a human alive looksjust as terrifying as it sounds,
right?
Yeah.
But you also can't argue withthose results.
Stephen (24:38):
No.
I mean, the form is gonna beperfect.
Yes.
And it's also interesting thathe waxes off wade's entire
eyebrows so that he can use hisreal eyebrows to put on over the
Steve (24:50):
wax.
I know.
It's really interesting.
Stephen (24:53):
It's also here that we see the scars on Bo's wrists and
realize he's the hellion child.
From the high chair
Steve (24:59):
in the beginning.
There you go.
Now Nick and Dalton soon arrivein Ambrose to look for their
friends.
And upon encountering Beau, Nickasks him whether he's seen Carly
or Wade.
Carly hears Nick's voice andtries to get his attention by
sliding her fingers through thegreats leading Bo to cut off a
fingertip.
Ooh.
Yeah.
Carly manages to rip her lipsopen and scream for help.
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Double.
Ugh.
Yeah.
Knocking.
Bow over.
Nick rushes to the rescue andfreeze.
Carly, the siblings discover therest of the Ambrose population
is dead.
Wax preserved and displayed andrigged to make it appear that
the town actually is livingresidents.
Look the noisy neighbor at thewindow pulling back the
curtains.
Ugh.
Now, when did you realize thewhole town was?
(25:42):
What?
Dead wax figure is your first goaround?
Stephen (25:44):
Not very early, like whenever she broke off the arm
at the church.
Yeah.
I still honestly didn't get itfully there.
It, like it was starting toclick, but I, because I saw this
before I saw the original.
Mm-hmm.
So.
(26:05):
I thought that they were justwax figures and I didn't get,
whenever she broke the arm offin the church that it was Yeah.
Blood.
I knew that something was wrongthere.
Yeah.
And I didn't see this in thetheater, so I think I watched it
with Brady and we rewound it andhe was like, I think that's the
inside of an arm.
And like we both got it at thatpoint.
(26:27):
Well, but it was like, Trying tofigure out what was important
Steve (26:30):
about that scene.
Yeah.
And so just question, do Bo andVincent take care of the puppies
themselves then?
The puppies are waxed too, butthe puppies were always made
from wax and they weren't actualpuppies, right?
Stephen (26:44):
Correct.
Those were, those are justsculptures.
They were never real puppies,embalmed, and waxed.
You pinky promise?
I pinky promise.
Do you know how hard it would beto get the fur off of.
A dog like that from waxing it,it wouldn't work.
Okay.
Well, I, and it would be sohorrible to try to sit there and
like glue the hair on piece bypiece.
Steve (27:06):
I'm sure people would do it, but I don't, I don't want to
think about it.
Okay.
I don't, they're not
Stephen (27:10):
real.
Steve (27:10):
Okay, good.
No puppies were harmed in themaking of this film.
Stephen (27:14):
No.
So I think we also need to takea moment to talk about.
How Carly ripped her lips apartfrom the super glue.
Yeah.
That bothered me more than thecarcass fest.
Ugh.
Steve (27:27):
Yeah.
I mean, this film isn't gonnawin any awards for its acting,
or its story or its narrative.
Yeah.
But in terms of if you're cominghere for gore, like it, they
deliver on more than just the,the murder scene, so to speak.
Yeah, there's definitely thebody horror, the body horror.
They do a really good job and isvery effective here.
Stephen (27:46):
At the same time, Dalton enters the house of Wax
and finds Wade covered in wax.
Wade is still alive because youcan hear him going, Hmm, but he
is unable to move Daltonthinking he's doing the right
thing.
Attempts to free Wade by peelingoff the wax.
Ah, as he's doing this, herealizes that he's peeling off
Wade's skin off his face, whichsomehow fused with the wax.
(28:11):
Oh, he's tearing off the skindown to the muscle.
And tears are just falling downWade's face in streams.
Vincent finds Dalton and startsto Chas him and slice off a part
of Wade's face in the process,which causes Wade to finally die
from shock.
Thank goodness.
(28:31):
Dalton falls down the stairs andVincent decapitates him.
And nobody thinks twice aboutDalton ever again.
Steve (28:39):
Not even his parents.
Nope.
Now again, talking about thebody horror, the idea of Wade
getting his face peeled offwhile he was alive in there is
just.
So gross and terrifying.
Yeah.
Now I don't understand the logicbehind any of this, nor do I
want to for that matter.
Yeah.
But do you think at that pointthat any medical team alive
(29:00):
could have saved
Stephen (29:00):
Wade?
So I wondered that the firsttime I saw it.
Could he have been saved?
And so I actually took some timeto think about this yesterday
and I think that the hot waxmelted with his skin and it
became one, like, it was so muchthat it like melted his skin and
they solidified together.
(29:21):
Yeah.
And so without being able forhis skin to breathe like a burn
victim Yeah.
Will die because their skincan't breathe.
I think he probably would'vedied within a day or so on his
own, even if they had gottenhim.
Out and gotten all the wax off,he would've been down to muscle.
And you can't recover
Steve (29:40):
from that.
Stephen (29:42):
No.
No.
There's no, there's not enoughskin grafts in the world to have
made that work.
Steve (29:48):
That is gross.
Now we're reminded that Paigeand Blake are still alive and
exist because we They'recharacters.
Yeah.
And I wouldn't go that far,babe.
But they are two people who arein the movie.
In the movie.
And having sex again or foolingaround still.
Yeah.
Who knows if they ever stoppedand.
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Vincent arrives at the campsiteto kill them successfully.
Yep.
Vincent stabs Blake in the neckand then chases Paige to an old
warehouse.
She finds hundreds of cellphones and dozens of cars all
from previous victims.
Vincent finds her, theystruggle, she damages his wax
face, but he ultimately wins byimpaling her on a metal pole
(30:29):
making any potential pregnancy.
A bit of a moot point, correct.
Now while we knew they weregoing to die at some point, did
they end up having any point orimpact on this plot?
Stephen (30:37):
No, honestly not at all.
Like we needed them for a higherbody count.
A bigger chase scene and Paris'sname recognition.
But for plot, no, they were not
Steve (30:48):
necessary.
I agree.
But I enjoy Paris Hilton'seffort and her
Stephen (30:53):
presence, and the more that I've seen this, the more
I'm like, she did not do a badjob in this movie, so I think
she
Steve (30:59):
did the best with what she was given.
Yes.
Now back in Ambrose, things aregoing smoothly and they're all
living happily
Stephen (31:05):
ever after.
I mean, it's a town of waxpeople.
What could go
Steve (31:09):
wrong?
No.
Carly and Nick break into asporting good store to get them
weapons, and Nick sees a signfor Trudy's town of Wax,
Stephen (31:17):
so everything is starting to make
Steve (31:19):
more sense.
Yes, Bo finds them and shoots atthem.
They hide in the movie theaterforever playing whatever
happened to baby Jane,confirming at least one of their
brothers plays for our team.
They face off against Boshooting him with a cross bow
twice and taking his keys, butleaving him unconscious.
But alive, which seemed weirdbecause at this point, if this
was us trying to get out of thistown, we would kill him to
(31:40):
death.
Right?
Stephen (31:41):
Yeah.
So we've shot him with an arrowtwice.
He's laying unconscious on theground.
We either would've taken the,the butt of his rifle and beat
his face in or shot him.
We would've taken, well, theydidn't have any bullets.
Oh.
We take the arrows out of hisbody.
And jammed them through his, hisface.
(32:03):
Yeah.
Like we don't leave him alive.
He's tried to kill us multipletimes, multiple times.
This is self-defense.
Steve (32:11):
Yes.
Now heading to the brother'shouse to look for a wade in
Dalton, they overhear aconversation between Beau and
Vincent who were the Sinclairchildren's scene in 1974, just
in case you haven't figured itout yet.
Yes.
It turns out though, thatVincent is the good twin who is
seen behaving well in theopening scene and simply just
wanted to continue his mother'swork of creating wax figures.
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But it was Bo, the evil twin whohad been violent and was.
Tied down in the opening scenethat manipulated him to start
murdering people to make morerealistic wax figures out of
their victims.
Carly also finds new newspapercuttings that report how Dr.
Sinclair separated his Siamesetwin sons at birth, leaving one
Vincent badly.
Discu.
(32:52):
Disfigured.
So I do like the twist that itwasn't the disfigure child that
was the inherently evil one.
Yes.
So what do you say about aclimax being twins versus twins?
Stephen (33:05):
I did like that aspect very much.
And it's funny how this, inFriday the 13th reboot,
ultimately were about a brothersister duo trying to survive.
Steve (33:14):
It is a nice change of the, the final girl and boy.
Yeah.
Now Nick finds the trap door andthe tunnel.
He and Carly attempt to escape,but they can't see anything.
They start flipping switches,turning on and off lights
throughout the whole town,alerting Beau and Vincent as to
where the twins are, and havingSteve still worried that the
puppies are real.
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Chase wants more by Beau andVincent.
They eventually end up in thewax museum.
Nick and Vincent fight andaccidentally turn the heat and
fire up.
That can't lead to any problemsin a housemate of wax.
Not at all.
Nick dumps some of the wax andit starts a fire in the house of
wax, and then it begins to meltas Nick and Carly try to escape.
They knock over people,sculptures, and they break
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apart.
Bo gets his head beaten the fuckin by Carly with a bat for the
win.
Yes.
His injuries now match Vincent'sface, which I didn't notice
could catch.
Yep.
Upon seeing Bo's lifeless body,Vincent in anger becomes fixated
on killing Carly in revengedespite her trying to reason
with him over his family'shistory of corrupt ways.
(34:16):
You're not
Stephen (34:16):
a freak.
You're an
Steve (34:17):
artist.
Both can be applicable at thispoint.
Yep.
He chases her upstairs to abedroom with a wax replica of
the conjoined twins in the waxcrib, and I love, as he slices
it
Stephen (34:27):
down, yeah, he slices through the door, cutting the
twins again.
There's more fighting, andVincent is stabbed by Carly.
And pushed through the wax floorto his death by Nick where he
lands on his brother's corpse inthe same position that they were
conjoined.
That's called symbolism folks.
Yep.
The house is melting aroundthem.
(34:48):
They can't get to the front doorto escape.
They can't really get back upthe stairs cuz the stairs are
starting to melt.
And Carly and Nick then managedto dig their way out to safety
through a second story wall.
They emerge inside the house ofwax sign and they're burning
themselves repeatedly on theliquid melted wax as they slide
(35:10):
out to safety.
The smoke from the blazeeventually draws outside help,
and the siblings discovered thatthe town had long ago been
abandoned, and then it wasn'teven on a map any longer.
As the ma ambulance carriesCarly and Nick away.
The sheriff learns that therewere actually three Sinclair
children.
What I know, the film ends witha shot of the roadkill
(35:33):
transporter petting Bo BowenVincent's dog, and waving to
Carly and Nick as theirambulance leaves Ambrose leaving
audience to think if theseemingly innocent man is one of
the Sinclair brothers.
He was,
Steve (35:47):
yeah.
Thoughts on the ending?
Stephen (35:49):
It was a very cool visual of the house and its
contents melting during thefight.
Like that was fantastic.
Mm-hmm.
The floor melting under theirfootsteps and sucking down Bo's
body and the people on the housefalling apart as they crawl
through the wall as itcollapses.
So, very cool.
Steve (36:06):
Yeah.
And I also love the twist of thethird brother.
Yes.
Stephen (36:11):
And like, It was all very well done, and I think the
thing that we can all take fromthis movie is it's Blake's fault
for trying to take
Steve (36:24):
a shortcut.
Yes, it is.
And also don't go to footballgames.
Yeah, I agree.
All right, now, The one thing Iwould say about this movie, as
much as we enjoy it and it makesus happy, is that, like I
mentioned earlier, thecharacters lack extremely.
Yeah.
Do you feel like Nick grew atall through this experience or
that either one is gonna comeout of the other side better
(36:45):
than they came into it?
Well,
Stephen (36:47):
Carly's not gonna feel guilty about leaving Wade to go
to her internship.
Steve (36:51):
No.
But can she still sew her?
Whatever she does with.
Out a
Stephen (36:55):
finger.
I don't know what she was gonnado for like in Style Magazine.
She may have just been a writer.
Okay.
Nick definitely got earlyredemption when we found out
that he didn't actually stealthe car that Dalton did, and he
just took the blame for it sincehe already had a police record.
He also admits that Wade isn't abad guy.
Doesn't matter now.
And that he actually acts theway he does because of a
(37:19):
self-fulfilling prophecysituation with his parents
saying he's always the bad one.
So we might as well be, we seehe truly loves his sister.
He put himself in harm's way tosave her.
In the end, I do think thischanges him permanently and
probably puts him on a betterpath.
You know, living, het
Steve (37:37):
he living, he won't be another bow.
Nope.
Stephen (37:39):
Maybe he'll live somewhere nice.
With one tree on a hill.
There
Steve (37:44):
we go.
Ugh.
All right, my love.
Well, any other final thoughtson the movie?
Stephen (37:50):
It's fun.
I like that they didn't try todo a total like remake Like they
did with psycho, where it wasalmost a shot for shot remake
that this, they took the idea ofsomeone being demented and
making people out of wax andreally changed it around.
(38:14):
So I liked that it was a freshtake on the original idea.
Steve (38:19):
Yes, I agree.
So, you know what I also agreeis awesome and makes me happy.
Stephen (38:26):
It's probably our
Steve (38:26):
listeners.
It is.
And we would love to hear whatyou think of the House of Wax as
well as this episode.
You can always email us at HappyLife pod@gmail.com
Stephen (38:36):
or you can get in touch with us on all the socials,
whether that is Facebook,Instagram, Twitter, or TikTok
at.
Happy Life
Steve (38:44):
Pod and until next time, everybody stay
Stephen (38:47):
happy.
Happy and stay out of abandonedtowns
Steve (38:51):
if you can.
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