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May 30, 2023 • 37 mins

The Steves discuss the 1999 reboot, House on Haunted Hill, along with what's making them happy in pop culture today.

What's making us happy?

  • Little Mermaid (Theatres)
  • Missing (Netflix)


Movie Discussion

  • Names and numbers behind the scenes
  • Stephen's thoughts on the sequel
  • Would you attend this party?
  • When would you begin to believe in the Haunting?
  • Stephen's favorite unhappily married couple, Stephen and Evelyn
  • Steve's wish for more James Marsters screen time
  • And much more

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Steve (00:03):
Hello, returning Happys and new listeners.
This is Steve Bennett Martin.
And this is

Stephen (00:07):
Steven Martin Bennett, and welcome to a lifetime of
happiness.
The

Steve (00:11):
podcaster, we take you on our journey through some of the
movies, shows, and other bits ofpop culture that are helping to
keep us happy while hopefullybring a smile to your face along
the way.

Stephen (00:20):
And today we're closing out our spring of reboots and
remakes with the 1999 remakehouse on Haunted Hill.

Steve (00:27):
One of your favorites?
Yes.
And for those not in the know itis the film where an amusement
park mogul offers a group ofthrill seekers,$1 million.
Spend the night in a hauntedhouse with a.
Horrifying past what could

Stephen (00:40):
go wrong.
Absolutely nothing.
Well, why do you love this movieso much?
My love.
So I love haunted house movies.
Yeah.
I love FKA Janssen.
Yeah.
Jeffrey Rush and Allie Larder.
Yeah.
I love witty biting dialogue.
I love some good scares.
It's a fun movie.
It doesn't take itself tooseriously, like as a product of

(01:03):
its time.
It's good and it's held up wellafter all these years.
Yes,

Steve (01:08):
it has.
But that's not the only thingthat's been making us happy
watching it this week, huh?

Stephen (01:12):
No, I've also been happy for all those poem,
fortune.
It's so, because we went and sawThe Little Mermaid, the the old
cartoon one?
No, the live action one withHalle Bailey and Melissa
McCarthy.
And how was it?
So good.
I it was have to second that.

(01:32):
Yeah.
It was magical.
It was just

Steve (01:37):
Mm, something you'll watch again when it comes down
streaming

Stephen (01:41):
and Yes.
Many, many times probably ownit.
Yeah.
Yeah.

Steve (01:46):
Excellent.
And we also had fun the othernight watching missing on
Netflix.

Stephen (01:50):
Yes.
That was an interesting movie.
It was all done.
Through technology.

Steve (01:57):
Primarily

Stephen (01:58):
a computer.
Yeah, your computer.
And the cameras that are oncomputers and apps that are on
computers, whether it beFaceTime WhatsApp, WhatsApp
Googling things.
Yeah, it was really impressivehow it was done like that.
And it was a.

(02:18):
Sequel of sorts.
Yes.
To another movie.
Yeah.

Steve (02:21):
It's I think the second or third, maybe second, second
one where it's done in thatstyle, but it has its own plot
and is a standalone, and I wouldsay that I definitely had a lot
of twists.
If you need a good psychologicalthriller, this one will have you
guessing till the very end whereyou're like, oh my God.
Yeah.

Stephen (02:38):
So.
I would say watch it.
It's very good.
It's

Steve (02:41):
free.
It's on Netflix.
Everyone has Netflix.
Enjoy it.

Stephen (02:44):
Yep.
So tell us a little bit aboutthe things that make Hal on
Hotted Hill, what it is.
Well,

Steve (02:51):
it came out in 1999.
It's an American supernaturalhorror film directed by a
William Malone based on the 1959movie of the same name.
Which I have never seen.
How was it?

Stephen (03:03):
It is so good.
I absolutely love the original.
It has Vincent Price, which justmakes all old horror movies
better.
It's directed by theincomparable William Castle.
It's camp.
It has the same setup of, youknow, people in the house.
You get money if you stay.
It has less body count.
The husband and wife are thevillains in this as well.

(03:24):
It is definitely worth a watch.
There's the original black andwhite version, but then there is
also.
A kind of remastered colorizedversion.
Both are excellent.

Steve (03:34):
Yes.
And you mentioned your love forJeffrey Rush and FKA Jansen.
It also has Tay Digs, AllieLarder, Bridget, William Wilson,
Peter Gallagher, and ChrisKatan.
Yeah,

Stephen (03:43):
so FKA is amazing in this film.
She and Jeffrey Rush get to chewthe scenery and they look like
they're having a blast whilethey're doing it.
They have the best lines andthey read each other for filth,
which is amazing.
Tay Digs we love from rent andother things.
Allie Larder will always haveour hearts from Legally blonde.

(04:04):
For me, it's final

Steve (04:04):
destination.

Stephen (04:05):
Oh yeah.
Bridget Wilson.
We know from playing oldersister Bitch Ella and I know
what you did last summer.
Yeah.
Chris Katan is outstanding inthis role.

Steve (04:14):
Not what you would expect from

Stephen (04:15):
a comedy guy.
No.
This movie made me leery ofPeter Gallagher cuz he's very
convincing this part.
And there's something soconvincing that I was like, I
don't think he's a good person.
And so I just assumed he was avillain in real life and
everything.
The OC fixed that for me.
Also fun note, Jeffrey Combs isDr.

(04:37):
Vanco Combs was in all the bestcamp horror movies of the
eighties and early nineties,like Castle Freak and
ReAnimator.
So he's kind of like, Eightieshorror royalty playing this
part.

Steve (04:49):
Very cool.
And I also saw when I wasresearching it names that I knew
from the special effects teambecause it has Kings of the
Industry, Gregory Nicotero,which everyone knows now from
the 50 billion Walking DeadSeries and spinoffs.
Yep.
And it also has Dick Smith whodid The Exorcist, which we
covered in a recent episode, aswell as Death Becomes Her one of

(05:11):
your favorites, which wepreviously

Stephen (05:12):
covered.
Yes.
It was released on October 29th,1999 with a budget of 19 million
and had a box office of 43million.
I remember it being a biggerhit.
I mean, it's, it's

Steve (05:24):
good.
Yeah.
Now did you ever watch thesequel return to the House on
Hundred Hill in 2007?

Stephen (05:31):
I did.
I've seen it a few times.
How it does it stack up?
So it stars Amanda rti, who wejust talked about.
In the Friday the 13th reboot ithas an interesting enough
premise where Amanda is thesister of Allie Larter's
character, and Amanda'scharacter is forced to go into
the mansion.

(05:51):
It's problem though, is it isthe likable characters.
They're too much canon fodder,Uhhuh.
The 1999 version had a smallcast that we get to know and
like before things happen, butthat's not the case here.
Some are only on screen to die.
This movie tries to explain howVanik came to be so evil and why
the house is still haunted andmaybe the people could free the

(06:13):
spirits.
It's not bad.
It needed a stronger director oran executive producer that could
look at things and go, Hey,That's not working.
Let's do this.
That's a better idea.
Yeah.

Steve (06:25):
Okay.
I'll skip it.
Or at least it won't be on ourfuture episode.
No,

Stephen (06:28):
it will not be a future episode.

Steve (06:30):
All right.
Well this movie is an episodeand it starts off in, in
abandoned silence.
The Van Kitt PsychiatricInstitute for the Criminally
Insane where numerous murdererswere committed in the 1930s.
The head of the facility, Dr.
Richard b Vant, performedgrotesque experiments and
medical procedures on thepatients killing many in the

(06:52):
process.
You gotta crack a few eggs tomake an omelet.
Any chef will tell you that thehospital was closed when some of
the so-called patients escaped.
Brutally killing was the entirestaff and burning the hospital.
But at that point, would youblame them?
Vanu had rigged the buildingwith numerous iron gates
activated by cranks and leversto serve as barriers to keep

(07:13):
patients from leaving thebuilding should they escape.
Some of them were controlled byhuge clock like timers that
wouldn't open for 12 hours.
During the fire, he put thehouse on lockdown, keeping the
inmates, employees, and fireitself contained, leaving them
all to burn.
Yep.
After several unexplained deathsduring reconstruction of the
facility, it was dubbed thehouse on haunted hill.

(07:34):
Which is interesting cuz it'snot a house, it's an asylum or a
mansion.
Well,

Stephen (07:38):
yes.
And it's not to be confused withthe haunting of Hill House.

Steve (07:42):
Yes.
Now, did you grow up near anyasylums or haunted houses

Stephen (07:48):
like this?
I actually did.
Mm-hmm.
So we had Spencer StateHospital.
It was an asylum right in myhometown.
It was eventually shut down.
The building remained abandonedfor years, and many of the
patients who were no harm toothers were just released into
the public.
And there were urban legendsabout the hospital and people
hearing noises and things inthere.

(08:09):
And dares about taking thesecret passage from the side of
the hill into the undergroundpart of the hospital.
I remember mom once took ajazzer size class there.
Mm-hmm.
Like.
I played in the state hospitalwhile it was still active.
Wow.
Yeah.
And we had a few haunted placesin town.
One of them is now a bed andbreakfast, and I stayed over one

(08:32):
night as it was being renovated.
And there was definitelysomething in the house.
It did not feel good.
And if I knew then what I knownow, I either would not have
spent the night, or at least Iwould've spent the first few
hours cleansing the place beforegoing to sleep.

Steve (08:48):
Yeah, I can imagine.
I mean, I knew I, I grew up inright near am Deve, Hora, but I
never went there.
But I know that you know, therewere definitely places, you
know, I think every town has itsown.
The haunted house.

Stephen (09:01):
Yes.
Now present day, Stephen Pricesan eccentric amusement park
mogul.
Whom has a disintegratingmarriage to Evelyn, his spoiled
trophy wife, and he has a newrollercoaster in one of his
amusement parks, terrorIncognito, which is actually the
incredible Hulk ride fromUniversal Islands of adventure.

(09:23):
With the trick of this beingthat the elevator on the way up
to ride the ride has a terror ofterror.
Tower of Terror style drop.
There we go.
Except that the elevatoractually never does free fall
drop.
They were ascending going up theentire time.
You found out something at thispoint that was interesting.

(09:44):
Yeah.
The cameraman

Steve (09:45):
is Spike and I love this movie and I hope that he's in it
in every scene.
I, I do too.

Stephen (09:51):
Yes.

Steve (09:51):
And I You loved how on his way down, he did the jumping
thing from the Yeah.
Urban legend.
That that would make you not dieor

Stephen (09:57):
whatever.
Right.
And as the, as he thought he wasfollowing, he kept jumping.
Yeah.
Because there's that urbanlegend that if an elevator
crashes and you jump rightbefore it hits, you'll be in the
air and you'll survive.
Yeah.
Also of note, the reporter isAmazing Superstar Lisa Loeb, who
I would like to add that I havemet in person and hugged.

(10:17):
Yes, we

Steve (10:18):
have photographic proof of that.
I didn't even recognize thatthat was her cuz Spike was on
screen.
The coaster seems great, but Ialso can't figure out what is up
with the cart that goes off thetracks cuz they make it seem
like, was that a trick of light?
I, I don't get it.

Stephen (10:33):
The, I, like, I, I wonder, was it, did it go onto
another track that was painted?
Go away green.
I don't know.
I don't know.

Steve (10:41):
All right.
Anyway, I'm sad that after thisthere's no more spike or at Lisa
Lobe.

Stephen (10:45):
I know they were just for that one scene.

Steve (10:47):
Yes.
But speaking of roller coasters,do you have a favorite?

Stephen (10:51):
I absolutely do.
So my favorite rollercoaster toride is the Beast at Kings
Island in Cincinnati.
The ride lasts five and a halfminutes, five minutes, 37
seconds, they say.
And the first drop.
It's steep and it's long, andjust when you think it's done,
it goes under ground and keepsdropping.

(11:12):
So like you're just gettingready to let up on.
And it is the longest,continuous, or longest wooden
rollercoaster in existence.
The best part is that you canride it at night and there are
no lights on most of the track.
Yeah.
So as you're riding it, you'rein almost total darkness and you
can't see what's coming.
Yeah.
As for the scariest, it wouldprobably be Shakira at Bush

(11:35):
Gardens.
Yes.
I love Chira.
Shakira, whatever.
No, you're right.
It is Shera.
I can never remember the name.
It's so fun.
Oh, I don't like that first.
Drop it

Steve (11:45):
straight down and I drag you on every time.
Yeah.
What's

Stephen (11:49):
your favorite coaster?
I

Steve (11:50):
would say that my favorite probably Especially, at
least for probably not the bestone, but the one that I have the
best memories with was probablythe rock and roller coaster at
Disney with Aerosmith.
Oh, that's a good one.
I went on like right when theyfirst opened it, and it was like
one of the few days.
My dad wasn't an all that trip,so it was a really good memory.
I.
That is Absolutely.
And then the, the wooden one atBush Gardens, which I think they

(12:12):
closed down Yeah.
Was scary, but not in a scary,ah, more like a scary like, oh
my God, will I survive or willthis fall apart on the tracks?
And there was one like that, onLong Island.
Growing up at our local one,there was like a wooden
rollercoaster, like, how arepeople not dying every week

Stephen (12:26):
on this?
So they built one in called theSon of Beast.
Yeah, it was the world's onlylooping wooden rollercoaster.
That sounds

Steve (12:34):
like a really

Stephen (12:35):
bad idea.
Well so the way it was built,and I guess to get enough speed
for a wooden coaster to be ableto do the loop and things it
beats the shit out of you.
I ended up getting vertigo fromit.
People left like with Neckproblems.

Steve (12:52):
And I had that when I did a dragon and fire at, in
Williamsburg at Hershey Park orsomething like that when I was
really little and I was just,mm-hmm.
It hurt my neck afterwards.
But anyway, back to the movie.
Back to the movie, StephenPrice's, wicked sense of humor
has caused a strain between himand his wife, who otherwise
seemed like they would beperfectly happy.
Yeah.
No.
Each of them would gladly killthe other.

(13:13):
Evelyn fancy, spectacularbirthday parties.
So Steven leases the house fromthe owner Watson Pritchett for
Evelyn's haunted Birthday Bash,which is something I would do
for you cuz I love you.
Not cuz I hate you.
Thank you.
Evelyn gives Steven a guestlist, two pages long.
He shreds it despite her andthen creates one of his own.
However, the five people whoshow up for the party aren't the

(13:33):
ones that were invited.
Instead, you get model JenniferJensen, aka we find out later.
Sarah Wolf,

Stephen (13:39):
actually not model.
Film executive,
whatever.

Steve (13:42):
Yes.
Eddie Baker, Melissa, MargaretMar, Dr.
Donald Blackburn, and Pritchhimself.
Neither Evelyn nor Steven knowswho they are, but they decide to
continue on with the party.
The guests don't even know themother than a few knowing price
by name and reputation.
But still they go ahead andoffer a million dollars to
anyone who stays in the houseand survives until the morning

(14:03):
with any person not making it,getting their money added to the
pot.
The stained glass ceilingshatters and Eddie saves Evelyn
from getting impaled.
Get off me.
Congratulations.
I don't think Evelyn has eversaid that to someone with
testicles ever.

Stephen (14:18):
Very funny, Stephen, have you?

Steve (14:21):
You're taking this very well.
For a woman who is almostkilled, I

Stephen (14:24):
guess you'll have to try harder.
That is, if you can get it up,

Steve (14:28):
the house is marked you as the first to die.
That's how the story goes.
Right?

Stephen (14:33):
Oh, would you want an invite to this party?
Yeah, of course.

Steve (14:36):
I feel like that's obviously right up our alley,
although it is very, I would gointo it wanting an ally, like I
would want it to be a plus onewhere I could bring you with me.
Oh, absolutely.
100%.
What if you were told that youhad to go absolutely alone and
there was a chance you woulddie, but the other chance was
that you'd get a milliondollars?

(14:57):
I'd still do it.
Oh boy.
Now, in initial thoughts of thischaracter, these

Stephen (15:03):
characters.
So it's a very interesting mix.
So we've got Melissa, MargaretMarr.
Former TV host, currentcelebrity, who is filming
everything on a handheld camerawith hopes that she can find a
way to earn or fuck her way backonto tv.
Good plan.
Jennifer Jensen, movieexecutive, she tries to come off
cold, but you can tell she'sfinal girl material from when sh

(15:26):
when she lets her guard down.
Yeah.
Eddie Baker, former pro baseballplayer.
He definitely seems down on hisluck.
I think he seems like someonethat has a ton of debt and
accepted this invite to get outof the house, makes some money
and probably not have a nightdrinking alone.
Yeah.
Dr.
Black, Donald Blackburn doctor,and he seems above it all like

(15:48):
too good for all of it.
Mm-hmm.
You've got Watson Pritchett whois anxious, nervous, does not
want to be there, and you cantell that he's not telling
everything.
Yes.

Steve (15:57):
But also that he is not, he's eager to tell them if
they'll just listen.

Stephen (16:01):
Yeah.
You have Steven Price.
He loves to be in control.
Master of ceremony's vibedefinitely sees himself as the
smartest and most importantperson in the room.
Believes his brains and wealthaligned to do is sees as he sees
fit.
Kind of a Tony Stark but moresinister.
Yeah.
Evelyn s Stockard price chic anddeadly.

(16:23):
Not enjoying what her party hasbecome.
She's disinterested in mostthings, sees herself as a femme
fatal, and her station asprice's wife elevates her in her
mind that she's better thanmost.
And you can tell from interinteractions with Steven that
they've had conversations likethis.
Many times before.

Steve (16:42):
Yeah.
And unlike a lot of other horrormovies, or more so than many of
them, the house itself is acharacter, isn't

Stephen (16:47):
it?
Oh, so much so.
And I love what we see of thehouse.
The first part, the entrywaywith the high ceilings, the
clean lines, the severe look,the black and white, the
fireplaces, the stained glassskylight, showing the demons of
the mind.
I even love that.
And those first few rooms are sospectacular.
It definitely has a presence.

(17:09):
If the rest of the house hadlooked like that, I would've
moved

Steve (17:12):
in.
Yes.
Now Evelyn is pissed at Stephenfor getting rid of her guest
list, so they have a privatetalk with some of your favorite
movie dialogue of all

Stephen (17:20):
time.
I gave you a goddamn list, twopages long.
Where the hell are they?

Steve (17:25):
Shredded, sorry.
Decided to whip up one of my ownA group's So hungry for money,
they'd be willing to doanything.
I thought you'd be morecomfortable with your peers.

Stephen (17:34):
You know, if you really love me, you'll find a way to
drop dead in the next threeseconds.

Steve (17:39):
Finding ways for me to die is really your deal, isn't
it, Evelyn?
Let's not forget the OJ knifewith the not quite retractable
blade.
Your Jim Jones Kool-Aid wasexactly that.

Stephen (17:49):
Accidents all accidents until proven otherwise.

Steve (17:53):
I be so happy if that were really true, Evelyn, and
I'd be absolutely goddamndelirious if you weren't fucking
every live living thing in ourarea code.
What is it

Stephen (18:01):
about that fantasy that gets you hot?
Me with other men or just theother men?

Steve (18:07):
The other

Stephen (18:07):
men like that is my favorite interaction in this
movie and in most movies, I feel

Steve (18:15):
like that says something about you.

Stephen (18:17):
Really.
I just think that

Steve (18:19):
it's so hating each other.
I don't get their

Stephen (18:22):
relationship.
I don't either, but the writingis so.
Tight.
And they're they sell it.
They're, yeah, they sell it sowell.
Like I just love that back andforth like, I just think that
they must have had the best timedoing this movie.
So we see Shechter Stevenshenchman from the amusement park

(18:45):
in a control room watching allof this play out on monitors.
Shortly after arriving, thelockdown mechanism is tripped,
locking everyone inside,enforcing them to remain there
until the gates unlock in themorning.
When the cleaning crew arrive atnine 30, Pritchett tells them
that the house is alive andthey'll all be dead by morning.
And they'll be mutilated beyondrecognition, promise price.

(19:09):
Golds Schechter, who had planneda developed series of harmless
traps to scare the guests fornot letting him know that he
planned to pull a stunt likethat, and with the lockdown,
Schechter says it wasn't him whodid it.
Price is then convinced thatit's his wife who did it
somehow.
But Evelyn is sure it was price.

Steve (19:29):
Yes.
And after the lockdown happens,Pritchard is absolutely losing
it.
One of the guests asked Price,is this some kind of joke to
which Steven replies

Stephen (19:37):
Pritch.
It's not laughing.
Which again, great line.
Yes.
And we never get to see whatSchechter rigged for the
evening.
What scares do you think that hehad ready to go?
That were harmless, that couldscare them.

Steve (19:52):
Nothing as good as what the house hadn't planned, but
yes, I could imagine it wassomething nice.

Stephen (19:58):
Like I am imagine with the way they used dummies at the
park Yeah.
That there were gonna be likebodies that they find

Steve (20:06):
and stuff.
Yeah.
And or like the murder mysteryepisode from Chuck E.
Season three.

Stephen (20:11):
Tell me, I, I'm blanking.

Steve (20:13):
Where it was like the, who done it with the twins?

Stephen (20:16):
Oh, yes,

Steve (20:17):
exactly.
Yes.
Now Steven, hands out partyfavors loaded guns with the clip
weld shut.
Eddie and Jennifer want to go tothe basement to look for an
override, which, okay, good luckwith that kids.
Yeah, Pritchett is forced to gowith them.
As nice as the main floor looks.
The basement area has not beenrenovated or cleaned.

(20:37):
Or nothing's been moved,including Van's, house of
Horror, collection of deformskeletons.
Price catches up with them.
We see a black wrigglingsubstance leaching from the
walls.
The group finds the ElectroShock Room,

Stephen (20:51):
which is one of 18, that Vant would run all at the
same time to save energy.

Steve (20:57):
There you go.
They then, Find the saturationchamber, a device to cure
schizophrenia or

Stephen (21:03):
cause it.
What would make a sane man madwould make a mad man sane or so

Steve (21:10):
they say?
I don't, I don't believe thatlogic.
I don't think it stands up

Stephen (21:14):
at the test of time.
Do you?
I don't think van, any of Vantsthings would stand up to the
test of time, honestly.
Well, except

Steve (21:20):
that one.
Now, would you have gone down inthe basement with the group,
even though there was safety innumbers?

Stephen (21:28):
Okay.
So if everyone had gone down,yeah, 100%.
But like

Steve (21:32):
even when you walk past the decaying, we are deformed
human skeletons that are moldedinto animal experiment things.

Stephen (21:42):
Yeah, because as long as you're in the majority of
people that are going down, Ialways like to think that I'm
faster than most people, so Iwould never leave you behind.
Yeah.
I, I

Steve (21:55):
definitely feel like there's safety numbers at this,
but this is when I would startbeing like, guys, let's go back
upstairs.

Stephen (22:01):
Yeah.
Once you saw, like Pritchett andhis family spent a lot of money
renovating the.
Like main level and abovebecause the bedrooms look
amazing as well.
Yeah.
You would've thought he would'vetouched

Steve (22:13):
the

Stephen (22:13):
basement a little bit.
A little bit.
Just, no.
I mean they left the deformskeletons.
It's still dirty.
Like pay a cleaning crew.

Steve (22:22):
Yep.
Now, because this is a horrormovie, the group gets separated.
Jennifer rewires the lights inpart of the room and she and
Eddie have a moment ofchemistry.
He says he doesn't believe she'sJennifer because no executive
could redo wiring.
Jennifer admits she's Sarah,Jennifer's former assistant when
she turns Eddie isn't there inthe other direction.

(22:42):
She sees Eddie and Chases afterhim.
She's getting mad and scared.
She comes into her room and he'sstanding on the edge of Nevada
blood and allows himself to fallin.
Sarah runs to rescue him andgrabs his hand.
Just then the real Eddie showsup, whatever's in the vat, tries
to pull Sarah in.
Eddie saves her again, andthat's three saved so far for
Eddie.
So he's gonna get lucky by theend of this movie.

Stephen (23:05):
The reveal that Sarah isn't Jennifer makes a lot more
sense because her character andportrayal seemed really
inconsistent up to that point,because you could see that she
was trying to be hard, but thenshe was.
Like logical and things.
And so this makes a lot moresense.
There we go.

(23:25):
And I love Pritchett informs thegroup that they've just been
playing with ghosts.
Wait until someone lets out thedarkness, the rotten evil core
at the center of the house, thatthing will kill you.
You'll hate that shit.
Yeah.

Steve (23:38):
Now,

Stephen (23:40):
if the Eddie VAT monster was just a ghost mm-hmm.
And you heard that there wassomething worse like this
darkness.
Would you believe Pritchett,that there could be something
worse?
Or is that VA monster prettybad?
All by itself?
I believe

Steve (23:54):
there's something worse and I'd be like, okay, let's get
the fuck out of here.
They decide to stick together,which will surely stick, and
they'll never be separated againexcept.
Except Melissa's gone off on herown to get footage for her
comeback Through the camera, shecan see the ghosts of past
performing surgeries.
Unfortunately, they can also seeher and it's so creepy when they
all turn to her at once.
Oh my gosh, so

Stephen (24:15):
much we hear a scream.
Guess all Melissa found what shewas looking for.

Steve (24:19):
The group finds Melissa's camera and a travel of blood to
where she was pulled into thehouse.
At this point, they decide tosplit

Stephen (24:25):
up, which this is not where you decide to split up.
No.
Just for anyone keeping track athome.
That gets stuck in a mansion.
When someone disappears and itlooks like they've been pulled
into a house.
This is not when you split

Steve (24:39):
up.
Yes.
Now Evelyn goes to bed.
It's also a great time to go tosleep.
Yeah.
Price goes to check on Shechter,but his skull's been carved out
from the

Stephen (24:48):
front.
Price, which that was one of themore gruesome things to me,
seeing how his skull was carvedout.
Yeah.
Completely.

Steve (24:55):
Really good practical effects.
Yeah.
Now price sees mannequin on themonitors and assumes it's just
someone messing with them andnot a ghost.
Eddie and Sarah still lookingfor ways to get out.
Blackburn's looking for Melissaand Pritchett is looking for
more alcohol.
Ugh,

Stephen (25:13):
now, I

Steve (25:13):
mean, yeah, like.
Yeah, they, we don't know whythey split up.

Stephen (25:17):
I just don't get it.
I mean, would you have agreed tosplit up with at that point?
No, I

Steve (25:22):
would stay with Eddie and Sarah cuz they're the final two,

Stephen (25:26):
obviously.
Obviously, because you'relooking at them and you're like,
which, which two people look reYep, which two are redeemable?
Now

Steve (25:33):
the electro shock machine is going off.
Everyone heads towards the noiseand meets back up at the same
time, it's Evelyn strapped tothe machine.
They turn off the device, butshe's dead and blood porous from
her mouth price is devastated,which confuses me.
He actually did love her.
I know, but he also wants herdead.
Yeah.
It seems like he can't win.
He pulls a gun and says one ofthem killed her.

(25:54):
He and Eddie struggle with thegun.
It goes off repeatedly and Eddieknocks him out and they put him
in the saturation chamber.

Stephen (26:00):
Blackburn volunteers to watch him while the others
continue to look for a way out.
Once Blackburn is alone withprice, he turns on the
saturation chamber machine andleaves the saturation chamber,
has flashing lights, loud soundsmoving parts.
The pictures seem to come alive.
Price has visions of being apatient 1931, of attempting to

(26:21):
be drowned in a tank of water,of seeing Melissa's body, but
it's all a hallucination.
He's totally losing it.
And the last thing he sees isEvelyn in a white dress holding
his decapitated head like abasketball.
Yeah,

Steve (26:34):
Blackburn went from boring character doctor to
totally suspicious in no time atall.

Stephen (26:41):
Yeah, like had you suspected anything about
Blackburn up to this point?
I

Steve (26:44):
thought there was something more to him, but I
didn't expect him to be evil orthe villain.
Or one of

Stephen (26:49):
the villains.
Yeah.
What did you think of thesaturation

Steve (26:51):
chamber machine?
No, thank you.
I would never want to be in asaturation machine.
Even with the machine off, itlooks terrifying.
Yeah.
E even with it off, I wouldn'twant to be trapped in there.
No, but, but turn it on and Nothank

Stephen (27:02):
you.
Whichever person on.
The team that came up with thismovie designed that if it's not
a real

Steve (27:10):
machine machine, probably a real myth machine, which is
the more

Stephen (27:13):
unfortunate Oh, it's, it scares me, honestly.
Okay, so Eddie, Sarah andPritchett find Van's office and
a picture of the staff from1931.
Mm-hmm.
When the place burnt the nameson all the staff who did not die
in the fire correspond to eachof the guests that are there for

(27:33):
the party.
The house made the party guestlist, but the only person
missing from the list isBlackburn.

Steve (27:42):
So does that mean though, that Sarah isn't one of the
victims because she took herboss's spot,

Stephen (27:46):
right?
Because the name is Jensen.
Can't

Steve (27:48):
she just tell her and just get outta the house?

Stephen (27:50):
Yeah.
Hey house.
Wrong

Steve (27:52):
one.
Yeah.
Speaking of Blackburn enters theroom with Evelyn's body.
He clean the blood from hermouth and kisses her while
feeling between her legs.
Not creepy at all.

Stephen (28:02):
Yeah, because at this point we think he's just being a
nec.
Yeah.

Steve (28:06):
He injects her with the syringe of adrenaline and she
wakes up.
They faked her death.
Evelyn Blackburn had been havingan affair.
They were plotting this allalong.
Their plan was for one of theothers to get so freaked out at
her death and for them to thinkSteven did it and that one of
the other guests would killSteven.
Then Evelyn would show and sayit was just a joke to get back
at her husband, but, oh no, he'sdead.

(28:28):
Oh, boohoo, yeah.
Evidence.
How

Stephen (28:30):
does that sound like a plan?
So like, let's say Pritchett,who's already wired.
So like they, her plan, she getshim to think that price killed
Evelyn Pritch.
It's already on edge.
They have these guns.
Pritchett freaks out even moreis like, you killed her.

(28:52):
You killed her.
And he shoots Steven.
The police show up and they'relike, oh, they're, and then she
goes, Just kidding.
Officer, I'm not dead.
I was just trying to get back atmy husband who was always
pulling pranks on me.
I'm sorry, ma'am.
Your husband's dead.
What?
Oh no, this can't be real.
I guess I'm a wealthy widow.

(29:13):
Mm-hmm.
Evelyn's pissed that Melissa ismissing.
She's convinced that Melissa isworking with price and spying on
them.
Evelyn doesn't think theirplan's gonna work anymore.
She says they need one more bodywith price's bloody hands next
to it.
This may sound crazy, but hearme out.
And then she stabs Blackburn todeath with a scalpel.

Steve (29:34):
Yeah.
That was a short period of timefrom co-conspirators to Evelyn.
Killing him, huh?

Stephen (29:38):
Yeah.
The movie kicked into gearpretty quickly at that point.
Not only is the house out to get'em, but real people are killing
each other before this scene.
Like even with their fightingand things, did you think Evelyn
was capable of actual murder?
Yeah.
Oh, see, I didn't think that shewould actually get blood on her
hands.

(29:59):
I didn't think she was the typeat that point.
Oh, I did.

Steve (30:02):
Now, back upstairs, Bridget says that Blackburn
would've been backed by now, sohe's dead too.
The group finds more blood and amissing Evelyn.
They go to the saturationchamber and see Blackburn's
face.
They open the door, his bodyfalls out, and his head is
impaled on the door.

Stephen (30:16):
Not only did she stab Blackburn to death, she
decapitated him, impaled hishead, and released, released a
deranged Steven on the house.
She's

Steve (30:25):
hardcore.
No one's ever gonna accuse herof going half-assed

Stephen (30:28):
here, which is why she did so good playing

Steve (30:32):
Jean Gray.
Yes.
Now Sarah loses it.
She starts calling for priceMurderer.
She hears whims.
She thinks it's Melissa, butit's price covered in blood.
I, I don't know what happened.
He comes towards her begging forhelp.
She freaks out and shoots himmany, many times.
Eddie prized the gun from herand they go back upstairs of the

(30:54):
three

Stephen (30:54):
left in the house.
If one of them was going to killprice.
Would you have put your money onSarah

Steve (31:00):
or one?
No, I would've thought that itwould've been one of the other
ones.
Yeah.
Eddie, protecting Sarah orsomething.
Right Now, enter Evelyn.
She shows up to Steven's body.
Oh,

Stephen (31:09):
Steven, you pour clueless, old geek.
All it would've taken is asimple divorce, ripping our
prenup to teeny itsy bitsylittle pieces no matter how it
ended.
Please know.
That from the first moment Ilaid eyes on you, I have always

(31:29):
loved.
Your

Steve (31:31):
money.
Steven gets up.
He was wearing a bulletproofvest because he's

Stephen (31:36):
Steven fucking

Steve (31:37):
price.
He is known about Shean,Blackburn and their plan the
whole time.
Now, since everyone else thinksshe's already dead, he's going
to murder her and take greatpleasure in it.
Happy birthday

Stephen (31:47):
baby.
And he shoves her through awall.
It only seems appropriate thatthey have a final showdown
face-to-face.
Of course, someone with hisbrains and money would've.
Had his trophy wife followed andshe should have known better,
but she was never giving him anyreal credit.

Steve (32:04):
Nope.
And she's about to get what'scoming though.
Stephen pushed her through thatwall, unleash the darkness.
Oops.
Yep.
Beat her eyes to get her tostand up and come to him, but
she's too slow to move and thedarkness grabs her and absorbs
her into the house.
Price runs for it and findsMelissa all chopped up and
displayed in one of thecabinets.
At least we know where her bodywent now.

(32:25):
Yeah.

Stephen (32:26):
I love how complicated Steven and Evelyn are, even
though he was ready to murderher himself.
When he saw that the house wasalive, he was worried for her
safety and when she saw it, shethought it might have just been
one of his tricks.
Like they have this weird thing.
But they have this other weirdlike connection.

(32:47):
I don't get it, but it'scomplicated and it makes me
enjoy it so much more.

Steve (32:52):
There you go.
Now Steven runs up the stairs,but the basement door is locked.
He calls for help.
Pritchard opens it up and isabsorbed by the darkness.
Instead of price, he urges Sarahand Eddie to

Stephen (33:02):
run.
Pritchett was right.
The house is alive.

Steve (33:06):
Really?
Yeah.
Now price heads for the atticand just like Evelyn before
Eddie and Sarah are in too muchshock and just stand there too
long letting the darkness gettoo close.
Finally, they run as the floorbegins exploding.
The darkness has Melissa's

Stephen (33:20):
say.
Sarah, you have to stay for my

Steve (33:23):
show.
Yeah.
Price gets the device to startopening.
The three are finally up thereand interact that you, you do
not see coming, nor I pricesacrifices himself to save Sarah
now.

Stephen (33:36):
After pri price runs past them.
Pritch was right.
The house is alive, and theystand there and they start
seeing this black ooze from thedoor.
I would've run the

Steve (33:46):
fuck.
I would not have waited.
I don't know why they did that.
No,

Stephen (33:49):
at all.
Yeah, the, the darkness revealshow the evil souls that
compromise it want to feed on.
All those are responsible.
Sarah gets outside of the house,but the darkness severs the rope
on the device and the windowcloses before Eddie can get
outside.
The darkness comes for him andbrings up the charges of his
ancestors' actions.

(34:10):
He says that he was adopted justthen pritch it's ghost, appears
and opens the window, and Eddiepulls, or Sarah pulls Eddie to
safely.
The darkness knows that it islost fornel and recedes back
into the house.

Steve (34:23):
Yes, Sarah and Eddie find the$5 million, but also that
they're stuck on a ledge.
They smile and enjoy the race ofsun.
It ends with Sarah asking onemore thing.
How do we get down from here asthey are several hundred feet
above the ground and there's noexit?
And you love the sending, don'tyou?
So

Stephen (34:43):
I don't mind her line.
But I dislike her line afterEddie's line of that was one
kick ass party.
No, it wasn't Eddie.
Everyone died.
They didn't have any funbeforehand.
No.
Sarah's line about getting downwas fine.
Eddie's was not.
But Eddie's line makes Sarah'sline bad because I'm like, yes,

(35:04):
you can laugh that you survivedall this, which was fine, and
you have the 5 million.
But don't say that was a kickass party.
Everyone just died horribly.

Steve (35:13):
Yes.
In a post credit scene, we seeprice and Evelyn stuck in 1931
on an operating table beingtortured for eternity and to
make matters worse through beingtortured together.
Yes,

Stephen (35:26):
it's totally, I hadn't made that connection.
That's good.
Oh, so what, like we know, Ilove the movie.
What do you think of the movie?
It's good and I love

Steve (35:37):
how much it makes you

Stephen (35:38):
happy.
It does make me happy.
It's one of those that I canwatch again and again and again,
like it doesn't scare me anymoreor anything like that.
But I just love theinteractions.
I love the special effects.
I love the story.
I could just watch the sceneswith Evelyn and Price going back
and forth at each other over andover again.
Yes, this, well,

Steve (35:59):
I'm glad our marriage is different than their marriage.
Yes,

Stephen (36:02):
me too.
You know what I also love, I betyou it's our listeners.

Steve (36:06):
It is our listeners and listeners.
We'd love to hear what you thinkof the movie, as well as the
episode.
You can do that by emailing usat Happy Live Pod.
At

Stephen (36:14):
gmail.com or you can get in touch with us on all the
socials, whether that isFacebook, Instagram, Twitter, or
TikTok at Happy Life Pod.
And

Steve (36:23):
until next time, everybody stay happy.
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